July 7, 2025 • 50 mins
What if your relentless pursuit of fitness is actually destroying your health? In this eye-opening conversation with Dani Sheriff, we uncover the hidden dangers of extreme fitness regimens that many health-conscious individuals never see coming.
Dani takes us through her personal journey as an Olympic weightlifter who lost her period for eight years straight—a condition called hypothalamic amenorrhea that she initially viewed as a badge of honor rather than the serious warning sign it was. With disarming honesty, she shares how her obsession with training six days a week while maintaining strict dietary control created a perfect storm for hormonal disruption. "I was so balls deep in fitness that I thought my period was an optional extra I only needed when it was time to get pregnant," she admits.
The revelations in this episode challenge conventional fitness wisdom on both ends of the spectrum. Dani explains how the body, when faced with energy deficits, makes ruthless prioritization decisions—keeping your heart beating and lungs functioning while shutting down "non-essential" systems like reproduction. But the consequences extend far beyond fertility, affecting bone density, cognitive function, and heart health. Perhaps most surprising is the psychological dimension: how rigid food rules and exercise regimens create constant stress that further disrupts hormonal balance.
We also explore the middle ground where true health resides. Neither extreme restriction nor complete abandonment of healthy habits serves our bodies well. Dani shares actionable insights for recognizing warning signs and restoring balance—including why sometimes having that donut might actually be better for your hormones than stressing about avoiding it.
Whether you're actively pursuing fitness goals, struggling with hormonal issues, or simply curious about optimizing your well-being, this conversation offers fresh perspective on what health really means. As Dani puts it: "Everyone, chill out, have the occasional donut, go to the gym semi-regularly, and don't take any one thing too extreme." Your hormones will thank you.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Hello and welcome to Health and Fitness Redefined.
I'm your host, anthony Amen,and this is way better set up
than last week episode when wehad our first test here.
So super excited to be in thenew space, starting to get
equipment organized, starting tomake things look nice for you
guys.
So, if you are watching onvideo, we are currently running
on youtube and rumble as well as, obviously, all audio streaming
(00:30):
devices.
So thank you guys forsupporting the show.
Really appreciate it.
Without further ado, we have agreat guest on for all of you
today.
A nice, fun, different topic.
I think this is going to beeye-opening to a lot of the guys
that listen to this show aboutthings they never wanted to know
but probably should know.
So, without further ado, let'swelcome to the show, danny.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Danny, it's a pleasure to have you on today
thank you so much and honestly,it's often surprising to women
too.
It honestly is um and I can.
I can assure the men who thinkthey don't want to know about it
it will help a lot withsomething one day, just to have
the basics of this issue covered.
(01:09):
So I'm excited for everyone.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Yeah, me too.
So just tell us a little bitabout like this is an
interesting topic.
So how did you get into thisworld?
So what made you want to pursueit?
Talk about it, run a podcastabout it.
Talk to me a little bit abouthow it all started.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Yeah, yes.
So I was an athlete, I wasOlympic weightlifter and I had
also been doing, you know, someCrossFit and things and, like
many people, I think this is mevery relatable.
There's this thought thatcrosses your mind of like many
people.
I think this is me veryrelatable.
There's this thought thatcrosses your mind of like, okay,
(01:52):
I do all this activity, I dothis exercise, I want to look
like, I work out right, I wantto be fit and healthy and I want
everyone to see it, becausethis is something that's
important to me and for manypeople.
It's why they get into healthand fitness not for everyone,
but for some people.
And you know, I have apersonality that if I'm going to
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do something, I'm going to doit right and I'm going to do it
hard, I'm going to go all in.
So I was a weightlifter for 15years and, at the same time, of
training very regularly to makeit happen.
You know, six days a weekmostly, and also just living in
the world full-time job,actually owned my own business,
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so it was more like six days aweek.
I just was really, um, honestlyburning the candle at both ends
and I had lost my menstrualcycle because I was working out
so much and dieting the wholetime, either to make weight for
(02:54):
my weight class in sport or tojust like be lean and try to fit
this healthy look, this fitnessmold that is very common,
especially for women, to.
You know, men can sometimestackle.
They're like let's get bigger,let's eat more, let's do our
(03:15):
bulk season.
But it's not uncommon for womento be like absolutely not, I
shall not bulk.
That's scary to a lot of women.
So they end up in a cut phase.
And that was me, in a perpetualcut, feeling that, wow, now I'm
not losing any more weight.
Let me just cut harder.
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Let me do more high intensityinterval training, let me do
more steady state cardio, let mejust do chores around the house
to get my step count in.
Let me do it all because thisis important to me.
And it kind of starts takingover my life and that's what
happened to me and I lost mycycle somewhere in that frame
(04:00):
and I lost my period for likeeight years straight of just
living this lifestyle and I feltthat it didn't matter.
I felt that it was an optionalextra on my body that I only
need when it's time to getpregnant.
So it was something that I justignored and, in fact, I felt a
little bit like and this iscommon if I've lost my cycle, it
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means I'm working out hardenough, I'm so fit that I don't
have a menstrual cycle anymore,is something that people hear,
and I think that that is a storyperpetuated from things like
gymnasts and ballerinas don'thave their periods very often so
, and they're you know, thepicture of health in our society
(04:44):
.
This must be a good thing.
Is this kind of weird narrativethat starts to happen?
So I lost my cycle and whathappened like the reason I
started to care about it was Iwent to my OBGYN and he asked me
about my periods and I said Idon't have any.
(05:04):
Me about my periods, and I saidI don't have any and he was
like oh well, we worry aboutthat when, when you don't have
periods, that's a problem.
And I was like, in all my years, the first time I'd ever heard
I was like what do you mean?
And as someone who value, or atleast, wellness, I was like,
(05:25):
well, this is a problem Iobviously need to solve.
And he gave me medication forit, not quite the birth control
pill.
He gave me something else, um,progesterone.
And I was like, well, I'm goingto, I'm not doing that, I'm not
taking the medical route,because I knew that.
I knew that, I knew that thiswas a self-inflicted problem
(05:45):
that I could fix, so I ignoredthe medication.
But I went into like a Googlerabbit hole.
You know why is my periodmissing?
And this was actually very hardto find information about,
because you're either pregnantor menopausal.
I was like, well, no, I knowthat I'm just working out a lot
(06:07):
and let me find the magic way tofix this, let me, like, help my
way through this or something.
So I go down this journey ofresearch and I'm coming across
information that's like, youknow, maybe exercising this much
(06:28):
isn't as good for you as youthink that it is, and maybe this
pursuit of being super lean isnot as healthy as you have this
belief that it is.
And I'm I'm like reading thisinformation and I'm thinking
that that's the stupidest thingI've ever heard, whereas, like I
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don't have an ED disorder.
I don't have, like I'm just aregular person.
I'm not even that lean.
Like I was struggling so muchto lose weight, I didn't feel
that I had a problem.
It didn't make sense.
I don't have an ED, I'm notmenopausal, like what.
What's happening?
But this message in my researchthat I was trying to ignore
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kept coming up right, you'reexercising too much, you're too
healthy, basically.
And it was so confusing, it wasjust like not something I'd
ever heard before.
And eventually, you know, Iexhausted all paths and I
started being more and morecurious.
Like, okay, maybe I am.
(07:32):
Maybe six days a week, threehours a day, is a lot of
exercise.
And you know, maybe doing atwo-hour weightlifting session
in the afternoon after havingdone early morning CrossFit
session is like a bit much.
And maybe trying to do thatwhile having a full-time job is
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a lot.
And I do notice I am a bit likeneurotic about it all and I am
a bit of like a stress head.
And when my husband wants to goout for dinner spontaneously,
I'm not okay with that because Ididn't plan my day around it, I
didn't plan all my meals aroundus going out for dinner, so
it's a no right, like fun hadleft my life, spontaneity had
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left my life, obsession with mybody actually taken over.
And this is crazy common and weequate as a culture often we
equate the pursuit of leannessand maybe even fitness right,
like run time, strength etc.
To health and they're notactually exactly the same thing.
(08:41):
And so I had to really likefigure that out and it was a
long process.
It was very anxiety inducing todo less exercise and eat more
food, which was important.
I couldn't just like.
I just mentally and emotionallycouldn't just stop doing
exercise and start eating tonsof food.
(09:02):
That was.
It was very scary for me and Iwas learning.
You know I have this thingcalled hypothalamic amenorrhea
and there's a lot of researcharound it.
You know reds and it's anenergy availability issue.
Too much energy is going outthrough exercise.
Not enough is coming in throughfood and the body cannot
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operate all of its functionswithout energy.
You can't just eat air andcelery and cucumbers and expect
to menstruate, like the body'sgonna say well, pump your heart,
you've got to use your lungs,we've got to do all of these
other things that matter foryour life now.
(09:48):
So we're going to shut off yourreproductive system.
But guess what, the longer youdon't menstruate, this affects
your bone density, this affectsyour cognitive function, this
affects your heart health andyour brain health and this has
long-term consequences.
And I wasn't trying to getpregnant so I didn't have that
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made up, but as I was learningall of the long-term health
outcomes, I started to getreally freaked out, like really
freaked out that all thispursuit of health was sending me
completely in the oppositedirection.
And like people don't tell youthis, but when you have
chronically low estrogen, yourcholesterol goes high, right,
(10:30):
but when you see highcholesterol in your blood, what
do you on your blood labs, whatdo you do?
Health harder, like all thesethings.
It was so confusing for me andI had to back out and I had to
like be what you know peoplecall a nup, right, like a non.
What is it?
A non-active, regular person orsomething like that.
(10:53):
Where which was super scary forme um, but with persistence and
daily journaling and just likefiguring this out through all my
own research, my period came.
I was eating more, I wasexercising significantly less
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and my period came back.
It worked.
And after a lot of work to getthe second one being consistent
and that's a whole other rabbithole but I got that and I was
laying in bed one night afterall of it and I thought to
myself that was hard andexhausting.
(11:34):
There was no resources, supportout there at all I had to piece
this together.
I was walking through a societythat was saying six-pack abs
are the goal, trying to do theopposite my own health and keep
my sanity together and I justthought to myself you know,
there's no such thing as aunique experience.
(11:56):
There are many, many otherwomen out there with my same
issue, my same anxieties, goingthrough the same thing, and they
cannot find any resourcesanywhere.
So I started a podcast and atthe time I didn't know it like
that much.
I just all my research.
I wasn't an expert, um, but Istarted the show and I started
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inviting and bringing people onto share their story, to help
motivate other women and feelsupported and like there's
community, because it's a verylonely experience.
So women all over the worldgoing through this are coming my
show and they're listening andthey're listening.
So then I started a supportcommunity.
I went back to school now I'm afertility awareness educator um
(12:40):
, sorry, practitioner and afunctional nutrition counselor
and I started like coachingother women through this process
because they were saying I needhelp and support and like it's
enough food and is this too muchexercise?
And you know what do my, my labsaying Do I have HA.
So I created a whole practicearound it to help support these
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women.
And here we are five yearslater and that's the story.
So long story, sorry.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
It's all right, it was a long women.
And here we are five yearslater and that's the story.
It's a long story, sorry, it'sall right, it was a long story,
and there's a lot to unpack inthat.
So I think the best place tostart would be I think there's
extremes, and I'm going to talkabout what I mean by extremes.
There's people that hop intothe fitness world and you see it
more in, like the crossfit,like athletic community, like
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you're talking about.
Women take it to the very edge.
They get into the bodybuilding,they get into the shows.
It's all the prepping superunhealthy, I don't even think
it's a good look.
Then you have the other extremewon't even step foot into a gym
.
And I've always noticed thiswith, like society as a whole.
(13:48):
People live in polarities, soit's either I'm all in or I'm
not in whatsoever, and it's verytough to find people that live
in that middle ground.
And then you hear people say,kind of what you were saying,
well, this is what society isteaching us.
Kind of what you were saying,well, this is what society is
teaching us.
And I do believe that, goingback 10 years seven, eight, 10,
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nine, 10 years that society waspushing for years women should
be this big and it was a superunhealthy look.
But now I think it's the exactopposite.
Talking about polarities, nowit's okay to be 50 60 pounds
overweight and neither is okayto your, to your point like you
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could take thing.
You could take something toohealthy and take it to an
extreme and not make itunhealthy.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
So how do you find and live?
Speaker 1 (14:40):
exactly how do you live in a moderation and how do
you really truly understand thatto embrace all the positive
effects of fitness but not takeit to the overall extreme level,
and that's hard for people.
I think it's really hard tounderstand like you can do
fitness and not do the extremeof it and not to the extreme of
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it.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
That's a hundred percent the problem that we're
trying to solve.
Because women come to us onthat, you know, stick thin or at
least uh, cause you don't haveto be stick thin to lose your
period.
It's really about the behavioraround it, right?
Some people's bodies will belike we ain't dropping that
weight, you know, like forsurvival reasons.
It's we're all about weightloss, total amount of weight
loss, and just like how muchyou're eating to how much you're
exercising.
(15:27):
And they'll come to us andthey'll say I really want to
help with this.
I understand it's actuallypretty cool, right?
Reduce exercise, eat morenormal, like have a bowl of
pasta, eat a sandwich.
You know, I get it, but I'mscared that I will become like
that other side of the spectrumthat you're talking about, like
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there there's no middle.
There's no middle for peopleand in fact many people I'm
going to say women, but I assumea lot of men feel this way.
If I, if I step one footoutside of this very strict,
very disciplined way of living,I lose everything that I've
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worked for and that's a scaryplace to be for people.
But I do.
I'm happy to report.
It's actually a pretty solidplace to be and people just it's
a leap of faith for a lot ofpeople to enter into the middle.
I went into a donut two daysago.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
So it's about taking a leap of faith as an example,
right.
Like I don't live in eitherextreme, I like to think I live
in a really perfect bell curve.
Maybe my wife thinks I'm strict, but I I eat so much food it's
crazy to watch.
I love food, I live for food.
No one's ever taking it awayfrom me.
But on the flip side of that, Iwork out a lot, but not three
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hours a day.
I do 30, 45 minutes at best,maybe four or five days a week.
But that's me being a male.
I mean on the female side of it.
You mentioned not getting yourperiod and that's, like you said
, survival instincts right.
If your body's saying toyourself like you can't get
pregnant, like the baby's notgoing to make it, the baby's
going to be unhealthy.
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Or maybe you're in an unhealthysituation where, if you get
pregnant, you'll be at risk,like if you're too thin and you
don't have enough fat in yourbody, your body's not going to
be able to hold on to apregnancy.
It's thinking like I don't haveenough food for myself, how the
hell am I going to support ababy there ain't no way as in
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more of a moderation standpointand give your baby the best
possible outcome, which kind ofpins back to what I talk a lot
about with nutrition.
It's living in the mindset thatwe lived in 3000 years ago,
which is you eat a lot of foodin one or two sittings a day and
you're trying to survive.
It's mostly meat, right,because it's a lot easier to
hunt and make bone broth, soupor eat an animal and just
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indulge.
You're very seldomly eatingfruits and veggies, you're only
picking what you can gather, butyou're trying to grow specific
crops just to get somemicronutrients involved.
So it's eating a lot, buteating a lot of clean food.
It's a hard balance for peoplebecause it's calories aren't the
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issue, it's what you're eating.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Yes, and I think this is interesting.
And so when I first went intoto recovery myself and into I
have, I had that philosophy andand it's a good philosophy, it's
very logical, it makes senseand, and is it true, you don't
need a metric shit ton ofvegetables all the time and you
don't need like, you need the,the basic stuff, and you can't
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live off crap.
End of story, right, like justwe'll lose your help.
Something about hypothalamicamenorrhea that is fascinating,
that we've learned over time issolid.
Part of it is psychological.
So this problem happens in avery like 99% of time.
A very specific population whowe've talked about high
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achieving, very disciplined, canset a goal and execute it ad
nauseum.
And what this, what thisappears to have created, is like
a almost like a slave driver offamine response.
So these women and this problemcan happen, happen to men.
(19:31):
There's a male version of thisissue, but y'all don't have
menstrual cycles to set an alarmabout.
Something happens where youtell yourself you will go and do
this workout, you will go anddo this run, whatever, and you
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will do it on this amount offood and you will like, like,
you put your body, your body ina headlock and you tell it to
perform, and to perform oncauliflower, rice and chicken
breast, right, and it's likeokay, but like, is food coming?
And you're like no, right, andyou know, do you know?
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You're not, you're not going tofeed yourself.
And so the brain senses famine,no matter what it is.
So we get many women who areactually very clean eaters,
whole food.
They're like hey, I don'tunderstand why I'm missing my
period, because I eat whole food, I don't eat junk, I, and I eat
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an abundance, in fact, of wholefood, which you know, once we
do our reviews, we can see, formany of them, like well, I love
the broccoli.
Like, have you seen a potato?
You know I love the chickenbreast, but have you done thigh?
Would you eat the skin?
The white fish is awesome, butis this so?
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Like a lot of people and it'sso common with women, right, uh,
obsessed with whole food,obsessed with ancestral eating.
But you know the second, we'relike okay, but can you be in a
caloric surplus of it or can youeat enough whole fat?
You know, they're like the.
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The obsession is now inquestion that like, where is the
intention?
Come in the eating.
So sometimes people willstruggle to recover, even if
they get their calories up,because we find that there's
still a lot of rules involved.
So there's a lot of cortisolpumping, there's a lot of stress
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happening because of the rules.
I'm like I am not allowed tohave sugar, I am not allowed to
have a high, like a high fatprotein.
And until we can unpack thoserules like you know your example
, like you had a donut every nowand then, like these people
won't touch it with a tenfoldpole.
(22:00):
Right, I know it's not healthfood, I'm aware that there's
actually no nutritional benefitof it for you, but there's
something about thepsychological rule restriction
of so many food groups, becausesome people are doing there's no
sugar, but there's also no likebread, or there's also no dairy
or whatever, for many differentreasons, and now their brain is
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like well, like it's not inabundance, we're not.
Like there's still rules andfear and structure around it and
it's been fascinating to justget women up to calories.
But until we remove all of therules and bring them into more
of a, you know, normal way ofeating, that their body will,
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that's when it will respond.
I think it's fascinating thatlike a donut can help sometimes.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Yeah, because it's less about the food, it's more
about I mean lack of a betterword the placebo effect, right,
which?
Understanding where?
Yeah, well, that's what I'msaying.
It's the placebo effect, forlack of a better word For what I
mean by that.
Let me explain so I can makemore sense out of it.
If I'm taking something and Ithink it's having an effect for
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lack of a better word For what Imean by that let me explain so
I can make more sense out of it.
If I'm taking something and Ithink it's having an effect, I'm
going to make myself convincemyself it's having an effect.
Right, that's what we know, theplacebo effect being known as.
Now, take it in a reverseexample.
If I'm taking it, getting superstressed about something, and I
just sit there and worry aboutit all the time and it gets so
worked up about it, my body willstart having an effect for
example, not menstruatingbecause I'm spiking my cortisol
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levels through the roof, becauseI'm worried about absolutely
everything.
So you're screwing up yourhormones inside your body
because you keep having superhigh levels of cortisol.
Now how do you combat superhigh levels of cortisol?
It's one side.
It's getting over a fear.
So it's a fear.
The fear could be food.
Right, you could ever be afraidof certain types of foods and
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be afraid that if I touchsomething I'm going to absorb
the calories and gain 400 pounds.
So it's the same way.
You would get over your fear ofheights.
You would slowly exposeyourself and get yourself used
to it, eventually start gettingrelaxed, being in that stressful
, fearful situation.
The thing such as sleep, makingsure we're getting high quality
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sleep in our lives and we'relearning to just relax and
unwind, like people forget justto take a deep breath all the
time, and how much of an effectthat just has on our body.
Just to let me just I don'tneed to stress about something
so silly like a fricking donutand thinking that I'm going to
go insane.
So it's cortisol just to wreakhavoc on our bodies.
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I mean, there's even researchcoming up and I got to look more
into it before I reallyacknowledge that it's truth.
But I wouldn't be shocked thatit causes certain types of
cancer.
It's that you're taking just ahormone and noticing what it
does to our body.
It affects our blood sugarregulation, it affects our sleep
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, it could affect your mentalhealth.
There's so many things Just fromhigh levels of stress because
we're worried about it.
Take another extreme examplethere's been studies of men who
get so convinced they'repregnant that their body starts
producing an exorbitant amountof estrogen and progesterone and
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they start looking pregnantLike physically impossible.
But they get so convinced thatthey're pregnant.
You actually, they actuallystart looking pregnant.
So it's you get so worked upabout something Like you can
start having issues like that.
You obsess so much aboutgetting pregnant that you can do
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the exact opposite becauseyou're stressing so much about
it and you're not gettingpregnant.
Know when you get pregnant, whenyou don't want to get pregnant
and I think I'm case in pointfor that.
My wife and I didn't want to.
She didn't want to be pregnantagain and we found out, oh my
god, one time.
One little freaking accidentand now she's pregnant with
having another kid.
So, like it's, when you justdrop those cortisol levels, your
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body starts working so muchbetter, because fright and
flight has been meant for quickresponses.
There's danger in the world run, but after you get away and
spend three to five secondsgetting away from that danger,
like it should disappear.
You shouldn't be worked up allday about something, because our
bodies are not meant to livethat way, totally yeah, you're
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completely right.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Like people will like , why is a donut spiking your
cortisol?
And this absolutely happens topeople who get all caught up in
you know the nutrition, thevarious nutrition crazes of the
world, right, and like you go,I'm gonna be keto.
So now, like, the fact that youate a carb is super stressful
to you.
And you know, to your point ofcortisol.
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Cortisol is at the very, verytop of the hierarchy of
reproductive hormones.
So if your cortisol and yourinsulin is not under control,
you sorry, not insulin, bloodsugar if your cause on your
blood sugar and under control,that will.
That's dictating what'shappening to your reproductive
hormones.
So all of these women who arestressed out because I didn't
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get my win and I don't haveanything to eat, because we're
going to this restaurant andthey don't have anything that
works for my diet, and you knowyour brain says yeah, no
estrogen.
You know it's, it's superimportant and that's yeah.
(27:41):
It's a great way to kind ofexplain what's happening.
And this happens to men too.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Yeah, I think I want to take it a step further
because I think this is animportant topic and probably a
controversial one.
But that makes it more fun isthe increases of infertility as
far as one as a society as awhole, two people wanting to
have kids.
There's a lot to unpack insideof that.
But why are we having extremeinfertility issues?
(28:08):
I know that we talked a lotabout women obsessing about
fitness and, like yourself, likejust over worrying about food,
but that's only like 5% of thepopulation, right when obesity.
On the other end of that,around 70% of the population is
overweight and obese, so arethose related to infertility.
(28:28):
Why do we have so manyinfertility issues?
And then the flip side of thatif we understand the infertility
issues, how can we help peoplefix and have kids?
Naturally, that's a toughquestion, but maybe know the
answer.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Yeah, and, to be super honest, I spend very
little time thinking about that,very little time thinking about
that overweight population.
I'm like I'm so balls deep inwomen who are under eating that
I've spent very little timereally looking at the opposite
side of the population.
(29:07):
I do think that I could takethem through an identical
process that I do with mypopulation and come up with
pretty solid answers.
Right so like, we use somethingcalled the fertility awareness
method to track women's cyclesand we can see, using that
method, their estrogen, lh, fsh,progesterone are doing, as well
(29:30):
as their thyroid and metabolism.
So I would like I I couldimagine what their thought was
like versus our clients and takethem through a similar process,
but just reversed.
Right, so like with ours, we'retrying to introduce things that
they're afraid of.
Right and like, change up theirdiet a bit and potentially,
(29:51):
with the opposite population,we're looking at like, okay,
well, maybe let's chill out onall the caffeine and maybe let's
bring in some high qualityanimal protein, because you're
getting all of your protein frompretty rubbish sources, right
like I don't know, mcdonald'sfrozen dinners the cheapest
(30:12):
quality animal proteins that youcan get and just start like
kind of like that bell curveagain.
Right, like, let's bring you tothe middle this way and you
guys to the middle that way, andthen, you know, everyone's
dealing with the stress of lifeand all of the expectations on
them.
And another thing that I thinkabout a lot, um, another thing
(30:38):
that I that I think about a lot,my whole team does is, while
the missing menstrual cycle partis like a small population of
women, it's a lot of women, butit's not the majority, right, it
doesn't mean that just becauseyour cycle hasn't completely
disappeared, you're not on thespectrum.
So you could have, you couldstill be menstruating every
single month.
It could be very poor quality,and it's for the exact same
(31:00):
reasons.
It's just that your body hasdecided not to stop bleeding.
Right, there are some likegenetic factors here as to like,
if you're likely to completelylose your cycle versus just have
like the bare minimum functionof it.
But it's the same thing.
Um, and I think that you knowwomen who may be considered in
(31:23):
the other part of the populationlike obese, overweight or even,
just like you know, naps likeregular people.
I think that there's still justenough malnutrition in our diet,
just enough people, you know,maybe fasting when it's not
(31:46):
appropriate for them to befasting like.
I'm not a big fan ofintermittent fasting for women,
example, and I think that a lotof people are doing that the
wrong way, taking it too far.
I think we have a heavyreliance on medications.
That's messing up with things.
Um, that is just like a crazyplethora of possible reasons and
(32:06):
um it it takes bringingeveryone back to the foundations
to like all right proteincarbohydrates at quality sources
from animals and not overdoingit in the junk world, but not
(32:27):
being like neurotic aboutavoiding it.
And we can bring everyone tothis like harmony about it.
But, like again, I'll be honest, I don't spend a lot of time
looking at that population.
I'm so busy with population.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
I get it and I understand.
It's a different population andit's a different understanding
and I think as a whole, though,there's still a lot that both
populations do experience andthat I think can be fixed.
I'm going to if anyone everwants to get into the political
side of things about why Ibelieve certain things, about
happy to jump into that, but Ithink I'm going to, for now,
(33:10):
just based on our conversationis stick inside the health and
fitness realm of this.
First and foremost, as a funnyside joke.
Everything you're taught inhealth class is completely wrong
.
So if you go back to seventhgrade, eighth grade, whatever
the years was when you had twoweeks on sex ed, oh my God, I
learned so many things like werewrong, and I should have known
(33:33):
that, because everything innutrition we were taught in
school is wrong, so why wouldthe stuff in sex ed also be
wrong?
Like it's absolutelymind-boggling, but to your point
, you made a couple of reallygood ones is these crazy diets,
these over-extreme eliminating amacronutrient because we think
(33:56):
that's correct?
It all started all the way backin the eighties when society as
a whole said wow, we'restarting to get bigger.
What the hell is going on?
And we mentioned the study allthe time.
But it just really, really irksme.
The Coca-Cola company sponsoreda study saying that sugar wasn't
the problem, it was fats.
So all the trends of all thefood companies took fats out of
(34:20):
food and everything was low fat.
This, no fat, this.
You know what the primaryfunction of fats are as a
macronutrient Hormone regulation.
So when did we start seeing acurve up towards period issues
or infertility issues?
When we started stripping fatsout of our diet.
(34:41):
That's where it started.
Now take it to the other extreme.
What came next?
It wasn't fat, oh my God, it'scarbs.
Now we're going to cut allcarbs out of our diet and, on
top of that, we're going to tellwomen, to your point, to stop
eating protein or proteins.
Animal fats are bad and don'ttouch those animals.
Blah, blah, blah and you getcomplete protein sources from
(35:06):
animal products.
That's it, sorry, plants, justdon't cut it.
So women now go on these extremediets.
They stress their bodies at toyour point about cortisol, and
then they jump from one to thenext, from the Atkins to the
starvation, to the keto, tointermittent fasting.
So your body's just always inthis constant state of extreme
(35:30):
stress and you're not regulatingit by giving it all three
essential macronutrients.
So that means carbs, proteins,fats, with the biggest one being
protein, and a lot of womenjust don't eat enough protein,
like not even close.
You should be eating 0.8 to onegram per pound that you weigh
(35:52):
of lean muscle tissue per person.
So if you are 160 pound femaleand you got like 20, 22% body
fat, you should be eating around125 to 130 grams of complete
protein.
Not what my fitness pal says,which is are you at peanut
butter?
That's seven grams of protein.
No, that counts as zero.
So just understanding how tostart regulating our hormones as
(36:16):
a whole.
So I think that's problemnumber one.
Problem number two is age.
Women are trying to conceiveand I think this one has a lot
of societal undertones.
But to get again to juststicking kind of the health
world, we were meant to havekids.
When you look at our parents,right.
And then our grandparents.
When do they have kids?
19, 20, 21, 22.
(36:38):
When are women known to starthaving issues with pregnancy?
33, 34, 35.
When do they start hittingperimenopause?
40, 41, 35.
When did they start hittingperimenopause?
40, 41, 42.
So your body already knows at acertain point that it's not
regulating its hormones properly.
So having kids at a younger ageis really where we're supposed
(36:59):
to meant to be, and this isn'tall women's fault.
This is men's fault.
You want to talk about qualityof like hormone cycles have a
quality of sperm, the quality ofsperm in men.
You know what increases thequality of sperm in men Higher
testosterone levels.
You know what men arestruggling with Low test.
Why?
Because men don't really do theextreme like women do when it
(37:21):
comes to like bodybuilding asmuch as percentage is way lower.
But women are way worse withthe obesity side of it, way
worse with the alcohol side ofit.
So we're just killing our spermquality.
So there's just no goodswimmers out there.
So when you add both extremesnow you have crazy infertility
issues.
So it's just.
(37:42):
There's a lot of things that wecan learn from this and I want
to also mention, as a side point, I do love all the different
research like IVF and stuffcoming out to help people to
conceive and have kids.
I think it's amazing and itgives people a chance to do have
the opportunity to have kids.
But, like, there's things wecan do first and we should
(38:03):
really look internally and getour blood work done check our
test test levels, see what'sgoing with our period, see if
we're living in extreme, learnhow to regular thing drop our
cortisol levels because overall,even if we're not trying to
have kids, we're going to makeourselves healthier in the long
run yeah, I mean, that's a great.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
Uh, we, we want to be the middleman before you just
go straight to treatments,because because, yeah, there's a
million things you can tackleand, yes, those treatments are
wonderful and way too morepeople than need it are getting
it like that.
(38:42):
You know, it's totally assimple as that and I think you
made a lot of excellent points.
Totally.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
Just as a side point and this is going to be purely
speculation because there's noresearch out on it yet Uh, glp
ones.
So your ozempics and ZEP bounds.
Do you think it's going to havean effect on women's menstrual
cycles and do you think we'llhave an effect on women's
menstrual cycles and do youthink will have an effect on
infertility?
Speaker 2 (39:12):
two clients so far who have been on ozempic and so
far, while I I do think I couldsee some things where I'm like
you know, I wonder if that's theozempic we've been able to fix
it.
Uh, one of those clients ispregnant.
(39:32):
The other has restored hercycle, but something that I that
is anecdotally interesting I'mlike you know, I've got nothing
to back this up as well they aregaining more weight than their
non-ozympic taking counterpartsin recovery and in pregnancy.
(39:54):
But it's hard to know, you know, like, oh well, is that
actually just always going tohappen for her genetically, or
is this a pattern?
Speaker 1 (40:01):
No idea, that there's research on.
I could tell you the answer tothat.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
For the ozympic.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
Yeah, so GOP1s are known to strip muscle tissue.
It's the same issue withgastric bypass.
Your body burns the same amountof fat stores as well as muscle
tissue, and your metabolic rateis determined about how much
muscle is on your body.
They have a lot less muscletissue on the body.
Therefore, they're burning alot less calories per day.
Therefore, when they starteating right again, they gain a
(40:32):
ton of weight quicker becausethey're burning at such low
rates yeah, yeah, I, I I've seenthis in.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
I actually have a personal friend, so she wasn't a
client but gained when she wentoff of the ozempic um, gained
significant amounts of weightlike surplus as before when she
started.
So it's not shocking at all,doesn't surprise me, and I'm
sure I will be seeing more andmore of it in my career over the
(41:02):
coming decade.
Um, you know, we saw someinteresting stuff with the
vaccines kind of happened aswell and getting people like
really, when everyone was firstgetting it, you know um and and
how that was impacting people'smenstrual cycles.
That was a cool one becausepeople both trying to recover
from ha, but then also pastclients who then came back to me
(41:24):
and were like you know, mycycle is totally out of whack.
What's going on?
And in coming to thedetermination like, inject
yourself with something and it'sgoing to mess with your cycle.
The neutral cycle is a a mirrorof your life.
Every week it looks just likewhat was going on that week in
that month.
(41:44):
So yeah, yeah, you're going tosee it.
Then nothing's happening in avacuum in the body.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
I that was so interesting with the COVID
vaccine and how it actually didkill women's menstrual cycles,
and it was something that wastalked about a lot because
people are like why are womenjust stop having menstrual
cycles after getting the COVIDvaccine?
I don't know enough to see hereand give you the exact reason
about why, but I do know therewas enough women experiencing it
(42:13):
that it was actually awell-known side effect.
Now, did that cause permanentreviews?
I don't know, you would knowbetter than me, but I'm very
interesting about it how it didplay a role in that yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
Well, what we can say for sure right is like if a
woman has any, honestly, anyvaccine, um, or illness, travel,
high stress type things come upon the chart.
Ovulation is delayed, you mayhave a short or luteal phase,
you may have a light leader,like no tens of really like
(42:49):
light spotting versus yourregular four-day bleed.
Some kind of really annoying,inconvenient symptom comes up,
because that's how it works,like it just is so easily
impacted by environment aroundit and what you're putting into
it.
So the nice part is that moreoften than not, when any
(43:15):
medication is administered for awoman so like, let's say,
antibiotics for an infection, avaccine, even if someone has had
to have an abortion or amiscarriage or something like
that it's always pretty effed upfor like a solid three cycles
in a row.
There's some kind of stuff outof whack, but the body is
(43:37):
awesome and it will doeverything in its power to get
back on, if you allow it.
So we do see it more, as itappeared to be more of a blip
surface level After two cycles,we could get them looking pretty
normal again.
But you know, whatever else wasimpacted egg quality for how
(44:01):
long, you know, could theirluteal phases be a day or two
longer and we don't know thatpotentially.
But the body works pretty hardto sort itself out and we really
run those bodies through a lotof shit and it keeps getting
back for us as best it can.
But you can only fuck with itso much.
(44:23):
So I definitely wouldn't say oh, go do whatever you want, your
body will figure it out.
But it is nice to know thatit's to see it trying its best
for all of these women.
Get back on track.
Speaker 1 (44:39):
I really, I really couldn't agree more.
It's.
There's so many things we don'tknow and we just keep giving
our body more excuses to notwork properly.
We start introducing a lot morechemicals and things into it
and we're like why doesn't itwork?
I don't understand withoutreally looking about.
Well, what are we doing?
Like what everybody meant to do.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
Our bodies are meant to be in motion, so I'm way more
concerned about, like theamount of makeup, fragrances,
dyes and things that women areexpecting themselves daily than
I am the occasional donut.
You know, it's like every dayyou get up, you put your
(45:18):
deodorant, you wash your bodywith some shitty soap, you put
your deodorant on, you put yourhairspray in and your makeup,
you go and have your coffee,your weird flavored creamer and
you have your pop tart orwhatever, and then you get in
your car with the air freshenerin it and then you to the office
.
It's like filled withfragrances and chemicals that
(45:40):
are used daily and like it's noteven 9 am, like I just that's
very concerning to me and it'slike you know a point to your
question earlier like for theissues, um, growing like we're
just it's hard to get away fromall of the things that we put
(46:03):
our bodies through every day andwe're wondering why we're
having so many issues.
Speaker 1 (46:14):
On top of the extremes of either not
exercising at all, exercisingtoo much, it's it all adds
together.
I always use the example, likeeveryone that wants to find, and
this is why we're science kindof gets hard One thing causes
one thing.
Right, you're always looking atcausation.
A is going to cause B.
But take obesity, for example.
If I have a donut, it ain'tgoing to cause me to be obese.
(46:35):
If I have 20 donuts, a cake, acheesecake, over the course of
like a month, then I'm going togain the weight.
It's not just that one like youcan't prove that one donut's
going to cause me to gain weight, but it's everything that's
going to cause issues.
Take that into the side ofautism.
By the increasing, rates ofautisms have gone to the roof.
(46:56):
I don't think one thing causesautism.
I think a conglomerate ofthings cause autism.
Bunch of stressors freak thebody out to cause it.
So I don't think we're evergoing to find what actually
causes it.
But I think we can look atwhat's changed in our society
(47:17):
over the last 20 years and saywhat the hell are we doing
different?
And it's going to be these sixdifferent stressors that we
introduced over the last 20years about why the rates of
autism have increased so much orwhy the rates of infertility
have increased so much.
There's everything'smulti-factor and if we can just
cut a couple of them, maybewe'll disappear forever, because
(47:39):
it needs seven factors toaffect, as opposed to we cut it
down to five.
So it's really justunderstanding just to try to
like minimize as much aspossible, but not stress to the
point like I need absolutelyzero, because then that that
adds a whole new world of anextreme yeah, it's just sadly.
Speaker 2 (47:56):
It's a bit ironic that if you, if you try too hard
to fix it, you will make itworse.
You need it.
It's that people hate thatanswer, and I get it because we
love a good prizing camp, weloved being like here's the one
answer.
And the truth is the answer isyou just need to kind of like,
(48:16):
look at the most relaxed personin the world that you know.
They're probably doing a fewthings, they're probably not
caring too much about a fewthings you know, and it's um,
it's a good way to be.
Speaker 1 (48:34):
Yeah, I couldn't agree more, danny, but I do want
to wrap the show up a littlebit, so I'm going to ask you the
two final questions I askedeveryone at the end.
First one is if you were tosummarize this episode, or one
or two sentences, what would beyour take on message?
Speaker 2 (48:42):
Yeah, everyone, chill out, have the occasional donut,
go to the gym semi-regularlyand don't take any one thing too
extreme and you'll be.
You know, you'll land in apretty good place.
Speaker 1 (48:57):
I love that.
And the second one how couldpeople find you, get ahold of
you and learn more?
Speaker 2 (49:02):
Yes, so I am Danny Sheriff on Instagram.
If you're interested in likeour work and our practice,
dannysheriff on instagram.
If you're interested in likeour work and our practice, maybe
it's you who has low hormonefunction issues, or your
daughter or your sister orsomeone.
We are thehasocietycom and Ihave a ton of education
resources.
Like all day, every day, I'mputting education out on the low
(49:26):
hormone topic, so it's a goodplace to go and just dive in and
find out, like if you likepodcasts, if you like YouTube
videos, if you like articles.
You know I got you there.
So the H?
A societycom is a solidstarting point.
Speaker 1 (49:40):
Danny, thank you so much for coming on.
Thank you, guys, for listeningto this week's episode of health
, to fitness redefined.
Don't forget, hit thatsubscribe button, share this
with a friend and rememberfitness is medicine.
Until next time I'm out OutroMusic.
Hello and welcome to Health and Fitness Redefined.
I'm your host, anthony Amen,and this is way better set up
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So super excited to be in thenew space, starting to get
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guys.
So, if you are watching onvideo, we are currently running
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(00:30):
devices.
So thank you guys forsupporting the show.
Really appreciate it.
Without further ado, we have agreat guest on for all of you
today.
A nice, fun, different topic.
I think this is going to beeye-opening to a lot of the guys
that listen to this show aboutthings they never wanted to know
but probably should know.
So, without further ado, let'swelcome to the show, danny.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Danny, it's a pleasure to have you on today
thank you so much and honestly,it's often surprising to women
too.
It honestly is um and I can.
I can assure the men who thinkthey don't want to know about it
it will help a lot withsomething one day, just to have
the basics of this issue covered.
(01:09):
So I'm excited for everyone.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Yeah, me too.
So just tell us a little bitabout like this is an
interesting topic.
So how did you get into thisworld?
So what made you want to pursueit?
Talk about it, run a podcastabout it.
Talk to me a little bit abouthow it all started.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Yeah, yes.
So I was an athlete, I wasOlympic weightlifter and I had
also been doing, you know, someCrossFit and things and, like
many people, I think this is mevery relatable.
There's this thought thatcrosses your mind of like many
people.
I think this is me veryrelatable.
There's this thought thatcrosses your mind of like, okay,
(01:52):
I do all this activity, I dothis exercise, I want to look
like, I work out right, I wantto be fit and healthy and I want
everyone to see it, becausethis is something that's
important to me and for manypeople.
It's why they get into healthand fitness not for everyone,
but for some people.
And you know, I have apersonality that if I'm going to
(02:13):
do something, I'm going to doit right and I'm going to do it
hard, I'm going to go all in.
So I was a weightlifter for 15years and, at the same time, of
training very regularly to makeit happen.
You know, six days a weekmostly, and also just living in
the world full-time job,actually owned my own business,
(02:34):
so it was more like six days aweek.
I just was really, um, honestlyburning the candle at both ends
and I had lost my menstrualcycle because I was working out
so much and dieting the wholetime, either to make weight for
(02:54):
my weight class in sport or tojust like be lean and try to fit
this healthy look, this fitnessmold that is very common,
especially for women, to.
You know, men can sometimestackle.
They're like let's get bigger,let's eat more, let's do our
(03:15):
bulk season.
But it's not uncommon for womento be like absolutely not, I
shall not bulk.
That's scary to a lot of women.
So they end up in a cut phase.
And that was me, in a perpetualcut, feeling that, wow, now I'm
not losing any more weight.
Let me just cut harder.
(03:36):
Let me do more high intensityinterval training, let me do
more steady state cardio, let mejust do chores around the house
to get my step count in.
Let me do it all because thisis important to me.
And it kind of starts takingover my life and that's what
happened to me and I lost mycycle somewhere in that frame
(04:00):
and I lost my period for likeeight years straight of just
living this lifestyle and I feltthat it didn't matter.
I felt that it was an optionalextra on my body that I only
need when it's time to getpregnant.
So it was something that I justignored and, in fact, I felt a
little bit like and this iscommon if I've lost my cycle, it
(04:23):
means I'm working out hardenough, I'm so fit that I don't
have a menstrual cycle anymore,is something that people hear,
and I think that that is a storyperpetuated from things like
gymnasts and ballerinas don'thave their periods very often so
, and they're you know, thepicture of health in our society
(04:44):
.
This must be a good thing.
Is this kind of weird narrativethat starts to happen?
So I lost my cycle and whathappened like the reason I
started to care about it was Iwent to my OBGYN and he asked me
about my periods and I said Idon't have any.
(05:04):
Me about my periods, and I saidI don't have any and he was
like oh well, we worry aboutthat when, when you don't have
periods, that's a problem.
And I was like, in all my years, the first time I'd ever heard
I was like what do you mean?
And as someone who value, or atleast, wellness, I was like,
(05:25):
well, this is a problem Iobviously need to solve.
And he gave me medication forit, not quite the birth control
pill.
He gave me something else, um,progesterone.
And I was like, well, I'm goingto, I'm not doing that, I'm not
taking the medical route,because I knew that.
I knew that, I knew that thiswas a self-inflicted problem
(05:45):
that I could fix, so I ignoredthe medication.
But I went into like a Googlerabbit hole.
You know why is my periodmissing?
And this was actually very hardto find information about,
because you're either pregnantor menopausal.
I was like, well, no, I knowthat I'm just working out a lot
(06:07):
and let me find the magic way tofix this, let me, like, help my
way through this or something.
So I go down this journey ofresearch and I'm coming across
information that's like, youknow, maybe exercising this much
(06:28):
isn't as good for you as youthink that it is, and maybe this
pursuit of being super lean isnot as healthy as you have this
belief that it is.
And I'm I'm like reading thisinformation and I'm thinking
that that's the stupidest thingI've ever heard, whereas, like I
(06:49):
don't have an ED disorder.
I don't have, like I'm just aregular person.
I'm not even that lean.
Like I was struggling so muchto lose weight, I didn't feel
that I had a problem.
It didn't make sense.
I don't have an ED, I'm notmenopausal, like what.
What's happening?
But this message in my researchthat I was trying to ignore
(07:11):
kept coming up right, you'reexercising too much, you're too
healthy, basically.
And it was so confusing, it wasjust like not something I'd
ever heard before.
And eventually, you know, Iexhausted all paths and I
started being more and morecurious.
Like, okay, maybe I am.
(07:32):
Maybe six days a week, threehours a day, is a lot of
exercise.
And you know, maybe doing atwo-hour weightlifting session
in the afternoon after havingdone early morning CrossFit
session is like a bit much.
And maybe trying to do thatwhile having a full-time job is
(07:52):
a lot.
And I do notice I am a bit likeneurotic about it all and I am
a bit of like a stress head.
And when my husband wants to goout for dinner spontaneously,
I'm not okay with that because Ididn't plan my day around it, I
didn't plan all my meals aroundus going out for dinner, so
it's a no right, like fun hadleft my life, spontaneity had
(08:16):
left my life, obsession with mybody actually taken over.
And this is crazy common and weequate as a culture often we
equate the pursuit of leannessand maybe even fitness right,
like run time, strength etc.
To health and they're notactually exactly the same thing.
(08:41):
And so I had to really likefigure that out and it was a
long process.
It was very anxiety inducing todo less exercise and eat more
food, which was important.
I couldn't just like.
I just mentally and emotionallycouldn't just stop doing
exercise and start eating tonsof food.
(09:02):
That was.
It was very scary for me and Iwas learning.
You know I have this thingcalled hypothalamic amenorrhea
and there's a lot of researcharound it.
You know reds and it's anenergy availability issue.
Too much energy is going outthrough exercise.
Not enough is coming in throughfood and the body cannot
(09:26):
operate all of its functionswithout energy.
You can't just eat air andcelery and cucumbers and expect
to menstruate, like the body'sgonna say well, pump your heart,
you've got to use your lungs,we've got to do all of these
other things that matter foryour life now.
(09:48):
So we're going to shut off yourreproductive system.
But guess what, the longer youdon't menstruate, this affects
your bone density, this affectsyour cognitive function, this
affects your heart health andyour brain health and this has
long-term consequences.
And I wasn't trying to getpregnant so I didn't have that
(10:08):
made up, but as I was learningall of the long-term health
outcomes, I started to getreally freaked out, like really
freaked out that all thispursuit of health was sending me
completely in the oppositedirection.
And like people don't tell youthis, but when you have
chronically low estrogen, yourcholesterol goes high, right,
(10:30):
but when you see highcholesterol in your blood, what
do you on your blood labs, whatdo you do?
Health harder, like all thesethings.
It was so confusing for me andI had to back out and I had to
like be what you know peoplecall a nup, right, like a non.
What is it?
A non-active, regular person orsomething like that.
(10:53):
Where which was super scary forme um, but with persistence and
daily journaling and just likefiguring this out through all my
own research, my period came.
I was eating more, I wasexercising significantly less
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and my period came back.
It worked.
And after a lot of work to getthe second one being consistent
and that's a whole other rabbithole but I got that and I was
laying in bed one night afterall of it and I thought to
myself that was hard andexhausting.
(11:34):
There was no resources, supportout there at all I had to piece
this together.
I was walking through a societythat was saying six-pack abs
are the goal, trying to do theopposite my own health and keep
my sanity together and I justthought to myself you know,
there's no such thing as aunique experience.
(11:56):
There are many, many otherwomen out there with my same
issue, my same anxieties, goingthrough the same thing, and they
cannot find any resourcesanywhere.
So I started a podcast and atthe time I didn't know it like
that much.
I just all my research.
I wasn't an expert, um, but Istarted the show and I started
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inviting and bringing people onto share their story, to help
motivate other women and feelsupported and like there's
community, because it's a verylonely experience.
So women all over the worldgoing through this are coming my
show and they're listening andthey're listening.
So then I started a supportcommunity.
I went back to school now I'm afertility awareness educator um
(12:40):
, sorry, practitioner and afunctional nutrition counselor
and I started like coachingother women through this process
because they were saying I needhelp and support and like it's
enough food and is this too muchexercise?
And you know what do my, my labsaying Do I have HA.
So I created a whole practicearound it to help support these
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women.
And here we are five yearslater and that's the story.
So long story, sorry.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
It's all right, it was a long women.
And here we are five yearslater and that's the story.
It's a long story, sorry, it'sall right, it was a long story,
and there's a lot to unpack inthat.
So I think the best place tostart would be I think there's
extremes, and I'm going to talkabout what I mean by extremes.
There's people that hop intothe fitness world and you see it
more in, like the crossfit,like athletic community, like
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you're talking about.
Women take it to the very edge.
They get into the bodybuilding,they get into the shows.
It's all the prepping superunhealthy, I don't even think
it's a good look.
Then you have the other extremewon't even step foot into a gym
.
And I've always noticed thiswith, like society as a whole.
(13:48):
People live in polarities, soit's either I'm all in or I'm
not in whatsoever, and it's verytough to find people that live
in that middle ground.
And then you hear people say,kind of what you were saying,
well, this is what society isteaching us.
Kind of what you were saying,well, this is what society is
teaching us.
And I do believe that, goingback 10 years seven, eight, 10,
(14:08):
nine, 10 years that society waspushing for years women should
be this big and it was a superunhealthy look.
But now I think it's the exactopposite.
Talking about polarities, nowit's okay to be 50 60 pounds
overweight and neither is okayto your, to your point like you
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could take thing.
You could take something toohealthy and take it to an
extreme and not make itunhealthy.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
So how do you find and live?
Speaker 1 (14:40):
exactly how do you live in a moderation and how do
you really truly understand thatto embrace all the positive
effects of fitness but not takeit to the overall extreme level,
and that's hard for people.
I think it's really hard tounderstand like you can do
fitness and not do the extremeof it and not to the extreme of
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it.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
That's a hundred percent the problem that we're
trying to solve.
Because women come to us onthat, you know, stick thin or at
least uh, cause you don't haveto be stick thin to lose your
period.
It's really about the behavioraround it, right?
Some people's bodies will belike we ain't dropping that
weight, you know, like forsurvival reasons.
It's we're all about weightloss, total amount of weight
loss, and just like how muchyou're eating to how much you're
exercising.
(15:27):
And they'll come to us andthey'll say I really want to
help with this.
I understand it's actuallypretty cool, right?
Reduce exercise, eat morenormal, like have a bowl of
pasta, eat a sandwich.
You know, I get it, but I'mscared that I will become like
that other side of the spectrumthat you're talking about, like
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there there's no middle.
There's no middle for peopleand in fact many people I'm
going to say women, but I assumea lot of men feel this way.
If I, if I step one footoutside of this very strict,
very disciplined way of living,I lose everything that I've
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worked for and that's a scaryplace to be for people.
But I do.
I'm happy to report.
It's actually a pretty solidplace to be and people just it's
a leap of faith for a lot ofpeople to enter into the middle.
I went into a donut two daysago.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
So it's about taking a leap of faith as an example,
right.
Like I don't live in eitherextreme, I like to think I live
in a really perfect bell curve.
Maybe my wife thinks I'm strict, but I I eat so much food it's
crazy to watch.
I love food, I live for food.
No one's ever taking it awayfrom me.
But on the flip side of that, Iwork out a lot, but not three
(16:49):
hours a day.
I do 30, 45 minutes at best,maybe four or five days a week.
But that's me being a male.
I mean on the female side of it.
You mentioned not getting yourperiod and that's, like you said
, survival instincts right.
If your body's saying toyourself like you can't get
pregnant, like the baby's notgoing to make it, the baby's
going to be unhealthy.
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Or maybe you're in an unhealthysituation where, if you get
pregnant, you'll be at risk,like if you're too thin and you
don't have enough fat in yourbody, your body's not going to
be able to hold on to apregnancy.
It's thinking like I don't haveenough food for myself, how the
hell am I going to support ababy there ain't no way as in
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more of a moderation standpointand give your baby the best
possible outcome, which kind ofpins back to what I talk a lot
about with nutrition.
It's living in the mindset thatwe lived in 3000 years ago,
which is you eat a lot of foodin one or two sittings a day and
you're trying to survive.
It's mostly meat, right,because it's a lot easier to
hunt and make bone broth, soupor eat an animal and just
(18:00):
indulge.
You're very seldomly eatingfruits and veggies, you're only
picking what you can gather, butyou're trying to grow specific
crops just to get somemicronutrients involved.
So it's eating a lot, buteating a lot of clean food.
It's a hard balance for peoplebecause it's calories aren't the
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issue, it's what you're eating.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Yes, and I think this is interesting.
And so when I first went intoto recovery myself and into I
have, I had that philosophy andand it's a good philosophy, it's
very logical, it makes senseand, and is it true, you don't
need a metric shit ton ofvegetables all the time and you
don't need like, you need the,the basic stuff, and you can't
(18:49):
live off crap.
End of story, right, like justwe'll lose your help.
Something about hypothalamicamenorrhea that is fascinating,
that we've learned over time issolid.
Part of it is psychological.
So this problem happens in avery like 99% of time.
A very specific population whowe've talked about high
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achieving, very disciplined, canset a goal and execute it ad
nauseum.
And what this, what thisappears to have created, is like
a almost like a slave driver offamine response.
So these women and this problemcan happen, happen to men.
(19:31):
There's a male version of thisissue, but y'all don't have
menstrual cycles to set an alarmabout.
Something happens where youtell yourself you will go and do
this workout, you will go anddo this run, whatever, and you
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will do it on this amount offood and you will like, like,
you put your body, your body ina headlock and you tell it to
perform, and to perform oncauliflower, rice and chicken
breast, right, and it's likeokay, but like, is food coming?
And you're like no, right, andyou know, do you know?
(20:12):
You're not, you're not going tofeed yourself.
And so the brain senses famine,no matter what it is.
So we get many women who areactually very clean eaters,
whole food.
They're like hey, I don'tunderstand why I'm missing my
period, because I eat whole food, I don't eat junk, I, and I eat
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an abundance, in fact, of wholefood, which you know, once we
do our reviews, we can see, formany of them, like well, I love
the broccoli.
Like, have you seen a potato?
You know I love the chickenbreast, but have you done thigh?
Would you eat the skin?
The white fish is awesome, butis this so?
(20:58):
Like a lot of people and it'sso common with women, right, uh,
obsessed with whole food,obsessed with ancestral eating.
But you know the second, we'relike okay, but can you be in a
caloric surplus of it or can youeat enough whole fat?
You know, they're like the.
(21:18):
The obsession is now inquestion that like, where is the
intention?
Come in the eating.
So sometimes people willstruggle to recover, even if
they get their calories up,because we find that there's
still a lot of rules involved.
So there's a lot of cortisolpumping, there's a lot of stress
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happening because of the rules.
I'm like I am not allowed tohave sugar, I am not allowed to
have a high, like a high fatprotein.
And until we can unpack thoserules like you know your example
, like you had a donut every nowand then, like these people
won't touch it with a tenfoldpole.
(22:00):
Right, I know it's not healthfood, I'm aware that there's
actually no nutritional benefitof it for you, but there's
something about thepsychological rule restriction
of so many food groups, becausesome people are doing there's no
sugar, but there's also no likebread, or there's also no dairy
or whatever, for many differentreasons, and now their brain is
(22:25):
like well, like it's not inabundance, we're not.
Like there's still rules andfear and structure around it and
it's been fascinating to justget women up to calories.
But until we remove all of therules and bring them into more
of a, you know, normal way ofeating, that their body will,
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that's when it will respond.
I think it's fascinating thatlike a donut can help sometimes.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Yeah, because it's less about the food, it's more
about I mean lack of a betterword the placebo effect, right,
which?
Understanding where?
Yeah, well, that's what I'msaying.
It's the placebo effect, forlack of a better word For what I
mean by that.
Let me explain so I can makemore sense out of it.
If I'm taking something and Ithink it's having an effect for
(23:20):
lack of a better word For what Imean by that let me explain so
I can make more sense out of it.
If I'm taking something and Ithink it's having an effect, I'm
going to make myself convincemyself it's having an effect.
Right, that's what we know, theplacebo effect being known as.
Now, take it in a reverseexample.
If I'm taking it, getting superstressed about something, and I
just sit there and worry aboutit all the time and it gets so
worked up about it, my body willstart having an effect for
example, not menstruatingbecause I'm spiking my cortisol
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levels through the roof, becauseI'm worried about absolutely
everything.
So you're screwing up yourhormones inside your body
because you keep having superhigh levels of cortisol.
Now how do you combat superhigh levels of cortisol?
It's one side.
It's getting over a fear.
So it's a fear.
The fear could be food.
Right, you could ever be afraidof certain types of foods and
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be afraid that if I touchsomething I'm going to absorb
the calories and gain 400 pounds.
So it's the same way.
You would get over your fear ofheights.
You would slowly exposeyourself and get yourself used
to it, eventually start gettingrelaxed, being in that stressful
, fearful situation.
The thing such as sleep, makingsure we're getting high quality
(24:26):
sleep in our lives and we'relearning to just relax and
unwind, like people forget justto take a deep breath all the
time, and how much of an effectthat just has on our body.
Just to let me just I don'tneed to stress about something
so silly like a fricking donutand thinking that I'm going to
go insane.
So it's cortisol just to wreakhavoc on our bodies.
(24:50):
I mean, there's even researchcoming up and I got to look more
into it before I reallyacknowledge that it's truth.
But I wouldn't be shocked thatit causes certain types of
cancer.
It's that you're taking just ahormone and noticing what it
does to our body.
It affects our blood sugarregulation, it affects our sleep
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, it could affect your mentalhealth.
There's so many things Just fromhigh levels of stress because
we're worried about it.
Take another extreme examplethere's been studies of men who
get so convinced they'repregnant that their body starts
producing an exorbitant amountof estrogen and progesterone and
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they start looking pregnantLike physically impossible.
But they get so convinced thatthey're pregnant.
You actually, they actuallystart looking pregnant.
So it's you get so worked upabout something Like you can
start having issues like that.
You obsess so much aboutgetting pregnant that you can do
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the exact opposite becauseyou're stressing so much about
it and you're not gettingpregnant.
Know when you get pregnant, whenyou don't want to get pregnant
and I think I'm case in pointfor that.
My wife and I didn't want to.
She didn't want to be pregnantagain and we found out, oh my
god, one time.
One little freaking accidentand now she's pregnant with
having another kid.
So, like it's, when you justdrop those cortisol levels, your
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body starts working so muchbetter, because fright and
flight has been meant for quickresponses.
There's danger in the world run, but after you get away and
spend three to five secondsgetting away from that danger,
like it should disappear.
You shouldn't be worked up allday about something, because our
bodies are not meant to livethat way, totally yeah, you're
(26:34):
completely right.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Like people will like , why is a donut spiking your
cortisol?
And this absolutely happens topeople who get all caught up in
you know the nutrition, thevarious nutrition crazes of the
world, right, and like you go,I'm gonna be keto.
So now, like, the fact that youate a carb is super stressful
to you.
And you know, to your point ofcortisol.
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Cortisol is at the very, verytop of the hierarchy of
reproductive hormones.
So if your cortisol and yourinsulin is not under control,
you sorry, not insulin, bloodsugar if your cause on your
blood sugar and under control,that will.
That's dictating what'shappening to your reproductive
hormones.
So all of these women who arestressed out because I didn't
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get my win and I don't haveanything to eat, because we're
going to this restaurant andthey don't have anything that
works for my diet, and you knowyour brain says yeah, no
estrogen.
You know it's, it's superimportant and that's yeah.
(27:41):
It's a great way to kind ofexplain what's happening.
And this happens to men too.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Yeah, I think I want to take it a step further
because I think this is animportant topic and probably a
controversial one.
But that makes it more fun isthe increases of infertility as
far as one as a society as awhole, two people wanting to
have kids.
There's a lot to unpack insideof that.
But why are we having extremeinfertility issues?
(28:08):
I know that we talked a lotabout women obsessing about
fitness and, like yourself, likejust over worrying about food,
but that's only like 5% of thepopulation, right when obesity.
On the other end of that,around 70% of the population is
overweight and obese, so arethose related to infertility.
(28:28):
Why do we have so manyinfertility issues?
And then the flip side of thatif we understand the infertility
issues, how can we help peoplefix and have kids?
Naturally, that's a toughquestion, but maybe know the
answer.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Yeah, and, to be super honest, I spend very
little time thinking about that,very little time thinking about
that overweight population.
I'm like I'm so balls deep inwomen who are under eating that
I've spent very little timereally looking at the opposite
side of the population.
(29:07):
I do think that I could takethem through an identical
process that I do with mypopulation and come up with
pretty solid answers.
Right so like, we use somethingcalled the fertility awareness
method to track women's cyclesand we can see, using that
method, their estrogen, lh, fsh,progesterone are doing, as well
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as their thyroid and metabolism.
So I would like I I couldimagine what their thought was
like versus our clients and takethem through a similar process,
but just reversed.
Right, so like with ours, we'retrying to introduce things that
they're afraid of.
Right and like, change up theirdiet a bit and potentially,
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with the opposite population,we're looking at like, okay,
well, maybe let's chill out onall the caffeine and maybe let's
bring in some high qualityanimal protein, because you're
getting all of your protein frompretty rubbish sources, right
like I don't know, mcdonald'sfrozen dinners the cheapest
(30:12):
quality animal proteins that youcan get and just start like
kind of like that bell curveagain.
Right, like, let's bring you tothe middle this way and you
guys to the middle that way, andthen, you know, everyone's
dealing with the stress of lifeand all of the expectations on
them.
And another thing that I thinkabout a lot, um, another thing
(30:38):
that I that I think about a lot,my whole team does is, while
the missing menstrual cycle partis like a small population of
women, it's a lot of women, butit's not the majority, right, it
doesn't mean that just becauseyour cycle hasn't completely
disappeared, you're not on thespectrum.
So you could have, you couldstill be menstruating every
single month.
It could be very poor quality,and it's for the exact same
(31:00):
reasons.
It's just that your body hasdecided not to stop bleeding.
Right, there are some likegenetic factors here as to like,
if you're likely to completelylose your cycle versus just have
like the bare minimum functionof it.
But it's the same thing.
Um, and I think that you knowwomen who may be considered in
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the other part of the populationlike obese, overweight or even,
just like you know, naps likeregular people.
I think that there's still justenough malnutrition in our diet,
just enough people, you know,maybe fasting when it's not
(31:46):
appropriate for them to befasting like.
I'm not a big fan ofintermittent fasting for women,
example, and I think that a lotof people are doing that the
wrong way, taking it too far.
I think we have a heavyreliance on medications.
That's messing up with things.
Um, that is just like a crazyplethora of possible reasons and
(32:06):
um it it takes bringingeveryone back to the foundations
to like all right proteincarbohydrates at quality sources
from animals and not overdoingit in the junk world, but not
(32:27):
being like neurotic aboutavoiding it.
And we can bring everyone tothis like harmony about it.
But, like again, I'll be honest, I don't spend a lot of time
looking at that population.
I'm so busy with population.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
I get it and I understand.
It's a different population andit's a different understanding
and I think as a whole, though,there's still a lot that both
populations do experience andthat I think can be fixed.
I'm going to if anyone everwants to get into the political
side of things about why Ibelieve certain things, about
happy to jump into that, but Ithink I'm going to, for now,
(33:10):
just based on our conversationis stick inside the health and
fitness realm of this.
First and foremost, as a funnyside joke.
Everything you're taught inhealth class is completely wrong
.
So if you go back to seventhgrade, eighth grade, whatever
the years was when you had twoweeks on sex ed, oh my God, I
learned so many things like werewrong, and I should have known
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that, because everything innutrition we were taught in
school is wrong, so why wouldthe stuff in sex ed also be
wrong?
Like it's absolutelymind-boggling, but to your point
, you made a couple of reallygood ones is these crazy diets,
these over-extreme eliminating amacronutrient because we think
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that's correct?
It all started all the way backin the eighties when society as
a whole said wow, we'restarting to get bigger.
What the hell is going on?
And we mentioned the study allthe time.
But it just really, really irksme.
The Coca-Cola company sponsoreda study saying that sugar wasn't
the problem, it was fats.
So all the trends of all thefood companies took fats out of
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food and everything was low fat.
This, no fat, this.
You know what the primaryfunction of fats are as a
macronutrient Hormone regulation.
So when did we start seeing acurve up towards period issues
or infertility issues?
When we started stripping fatsout of our diet.
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That's where it started.
Now take it to the other extreme.
What came next?
It wasn't fat, oh my God, it'scarbs.
Now we're going to cut allcarbs out of our diet and, on
top of that, we're going to tellwomen, to your point, to stop
eating protein or proteins.
Animal fats are bad and don'ttouch those animals.
Blah, blah, blah and you getcomplete protein sources from
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animal products.
That's it, sorry, plants, justdon't cut it.
So women now go on these extremediets.
They stress their bodies at toyour point about cortisol, and
then they jump from one to thenext, from the Atkins to the
starvation, to the keto, tointermittent fasting.
So your body's just always inthis constant state of extreme
(35:30):
stress and you're not regulatingit by giving it all three
essential macronutrients.
So that means carbs, proteins,fats, with the biggest one being
protein, and a lot of womenjust don't eat enough protein,
like not even close.
You should be eating 0.8 to onegram per pound that you weigh
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of lean muscle tissue per person.
So if you are 160 pound femaleand you got like 20, 22% body
fat, you should be eating around125 to 130 grams of complete
protein.
Not what my fitness pal says,which is are you at peanut
butter?
That's seven grams of protein.
No, that counts as zero.
So just understanding how tostart regulating our hormones as
(36:16):
a whole.
So I think that's problemnumber one.
Problem number two is age.
Women are trying to conceiveand I think this one has a lot
of societal undertones.
But to get again to juststicking kind of the health
world, we were meant to havekids.
When you look at our parents,right.
And then our grandparents.
When do they have kids?
19, 20, 21, 22.
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When are women known to starthaving issues with pregnancy?
33, 34, 35.
When do they start hittingperimenopause?
40, 41, 35.
When did they start hittingperimenopause?
40, 41, 42.
So your body already knows at acertain point that it's not
regulating its hormones properly.
So having kids at a younger ageis really where we're supposed
(36:59):
to meant to be, and this isn'tall women's fault.
This is men's fault.
You want to talk about qualityof like hormone cycles have a
quality of sperm, the quality ofsperm in men.
You know what increases thequality of sperm in men Higher
testosterone levels.
You know what men arestruggling with Low test.
Why?
Because men don't really do theextreme like women do when it
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comes to like bodybuilding asmuch as percentage is way lower.
But women are way worse withthe obesity side of it, way
worse with the alcohol side ofit.
So we're just killing our spermquality.
So there's just no goodswimmers out there.
So when you add both extremesnow you have crazy infertility
issues.
So it's just.
(37:42):
There's a lot of things that wecan learn from this and I want
to also mention, as a side point, I do love all the different
research like IVF and stuffcoming out to help people to
conceive and have kids.
I think it's amazing and itgives people a chance to do have
the opportunity to have kids.
But, like, there's things wecan do first and we should
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really look internally and getour blood work done check our
test test levels, see what'sgoing with our period, see if
we're living in extreme, learnhow to regular thing drop our
cortisol levels because overall,even if we're not trying to
have kids, we're going to makeourselves healthier in the long
run yeah, I mean, that's a great.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
Uh, we, we want to be the middleman before you just
go straight to treatments,because because, yeah, there's a
million things you can tackleand, yes, those treatments are
wonderful and way too morepeople than need it are getting
it like that.
(38:42):
You know, it's totally assimple as that and I think you
made a lot of excellent points.
Totally.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
Just as a side point and this is going to be purely
speculation because there's noresearch out on it yet Uh, glp
ones.
So your ozempics and ZEP bounds.
Do you think it's going to havean effect on women's menstrual
cycles and do you think we'llhave an effect on women's
menstrual cycles and do youthink will have an effect on
infertility?
Speaker 2 (39:12):
two clients so far who have been on ozempic and so
far, while I I do think I couldsee some things where I'm like
you know, I wonder if that's theozempic we've been able to fix
it.
Uh, one of those clients ispregnant.
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The other has restored hercycle, but something that I that
is anecdotally interesting I'mlike you know, I've got nothing
to back this up as well they aregaining more weight than their
non-ozympic taking counterpartsin recovery and in pregnancy.
(39:54):
But it's hard to know, you know, like, oh well, is that
actually just always going tohappen for her genetically, or
is this a pattern?
Speaker 1 (40:01):
No idea, that there's research on.
I could tell you the answer tothat.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
For the ozympic.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
Yeah, so GOP1s are known to strip muscle tissue.
It's the same issue withgastric bypass.
Your body burns the same amountof fat stores as well as muscle
tissue, and your metabolic rateis determined about how much
muscle is on your body.
They have a lot less muscletissue on the body.
Therefore, they're burning alot less calories per day.
Therefore, when they starteating right again, they gain a
(40:32):
ton of weight quicker becausethey're burning at such low
rates yeah, yeah, I, I I've seenthis in.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
I actually have a personal friend, so she wasn't a
client but gained when she wentoff of the ozempic um, gained
significant amounts of weightlike surplus as before when she
started.
So it's not shocking at all,doesn't surprise me, and I'm
sure I will be seeing more andmore of it in my career over the
(41:02):
coming decade.
Um, you know, we saw someinteresting stuff with the
vaccines kind of happened aswell and getting people like
really, when everyone was firstgetting it, you know um and and
how that was impacting people'smenstrual cycles.
That was a cool one becausepeople both trying to recover
from ha, but then also pastclients who then came back to me
(41:24):
and were like you know, mycycle is totally out of whack.
What's going on?
And in coming to thedetermination like, inject
yourself with something and it'sgoing to mess with your cycle.
The neutral cycle is a a mirrorof your life.
Every week it looks just likewhat was going on that week in
that month.
(41:44):
So yeah, yeah, you're going tosee it.
Then nothing's happening in avacuum in the body.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
I that was so interesting with the COVID
vaccine and how it actually didkill women's menstrual cycles,
and it was something that wastalked about a lot because
people are like why are womenjust stop having menstrual
cycles after getting the COVIDvaccine?
I don't know enough to see hereand give you the exact reason
about why, but I do know therewas enough women experiencing it
(42:13):
that it was actually awell-known side effect.
Now, did that cause permanentreviews?
I don't know, you would knowbetter than me, but I'm very
interesting about it how it didplay a role in that yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:27):
Well, what we can say for sure right is like if a
woman has any, honestly, anyvaccine, um, or illness, travel,
high stress type things come upon the chart.
Ovulation is delayed, you mayhave a short or luteal phase,
you may have a light leader,like no tens of really like
(42:49):
light spotting versus yourregular four-day bleed.
Some kind of really annoying,inconvenient symptom comes up,
because that's how it works,like it just is so easily
impacted by environment aroundit and what you're putting into
it.
So the nice part is that moreoften than not, when any
(43:15):
medication is administered for awoman so like, let's say,
antibiotics for an infection, avaccine, even if someone has had
to have an abortion or amiscarriage or something like
that it's always pretty effed upfor like a solid three cycles
in a row.
There's some kind of stuff outof whack, but the body is
(43:37):
awesome and it will doeverything in its power to get
back on, if you allow it.
So we do see it more, as itappeared to be more of a blip
surface level After two cycles,we could get them looking pretty
normal again.
But you know, whatever else wasimpacted egg quality for how
(44:01):
long, you know, could theirluteal phases be a day or two
longer and we don't know thatpotentially.
But the body works pretty hardto sort itself out and we really
run those bodies through a lotof shit and it keeps getting
back for us as best it can.
But you can only fuck with itso much.
(44:23):
So I definitely wouldn't say oh, go do whatever you want, your
body will figure it out.
But it is nice to know thatit's to see it trying its best
for all of these women.
Get back on track.
Speaker 1 (44:39):
I really, I really couldn't agree more.
It's.
There's so many things we don'tknow and we just keep giving
our body more excuses to notwork properly.
We start introducing a lot morechemicals and things into it
and we're like why doesn't itwork?
I don't understand withoutreally looking about.
Well, what are we doing?
Like what everybody meant to do.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
Our bodies are meant to be in motion, so I'm way more
concerned about, like theamount of makeup, fragrances,
dyes and things that women areexpecting themselves daily than
I am the occasional donut.
You know, it's like every dayyou get up, you put your
(45:18):
deodorant, you wash your bodywith some shitty soap, you put
your deodorant on, you put yourhairspray in and your makeup,
you go and have your coffee,your weird flavored creamer and
you have your pop tart orwhatever, and then you get in
your car with the air freshenerin it and then you to the office
.
It's like filled withfragrances and chemicals that
(45:40):
are used daily and like it's noteven 9 am, like I just that's
very concerning to me and it'slike you know a point to your
question earlier like for theissues, um, growing like we're
just it's hard to get away fromall of the things that we put
(46:03):
our bodies through every day andwe're wondering why we're
having so many issues.
Speaker 1 (46:14):
On top of the extremes of either not
exercising at all, exercisingtoo much, it's it all adds
together.
I always use the example, likeeveryone that wants to find, and
this is why we're science kindof gets hard One thing causes
one thing.
Right, you're always looking atcausation.
A is going to cause B.
But take obesity, for example.
If I have a donut, it ain'tgoing to cause me to be obese.
(46:35):
If I have 20 donuts, a cake, acheesecake, over the course of
like a month, then I'm going togain the weight.
It's not just that one like youcan't prove that one donut's
going to cause me to gain weight, but it's everything that's
going to cause issues.
Take that into the side ofautism.
By the increasing, rates ofautisms have gone to the roof.
(46:56):
I don't think one thing causesautism.
I think a conglomerate ofthings cause autism.
Bunch of stressors freak thebody out to cause it.
So I don't think we're evergoing to find what actually
causes it.
But I think we can look atwhat's changed in our society
(47:17):
over the last 20 years and saywhat the hell are we doing
different?
And it's going to be these sixdifferent stressors that we
introduced over the last 20years about why the rates of
autism have increased so much orwhy the rates of infertility
have increased so much.
There's everything'smulti-factor and if we can just
cut a couple of them, maybewe'll disappear forever, because
(47:39):
it needs seven factors toaffect, as opposed to we cut it
down to five.
So it's really justunderstanding just to try to
like minimize as much aspossible, but not stress to the
point like I need absolutelyzero, because then that that
adds a whole new world of anextreme yeah, it's just sadly.
Speaker 2 (47:56):
It's a bit ironic that if you, if you try too hard
to fix it, you will make itworse.
You need it.
It's that people hate thatanswer, and I get it because we
love a good prizing camp, weloved being like here's the one
answer.
And the truth is the answer isyou just need to kind of like,
(48:16):
look at the most relaxed personin the world that you know.
They're probably doing a fewthings, they're probably not
caring too much about a fewthings you know, and it's um,
it's a good way to be.
Speaker 1 (48:34):
Yeah, I couldn't agree more, danny, but I do want
to wrap the show up a littlebit, so I'm going to ask you the
two final questions I askedeveryone at the end.
First one is if you were tosummarize this episode, or one
or two sentences, what would beyour take on message?
Speaker 2 (48:42):
Yeah, everyone, chill out, have the occasional donut,
go to the gym semi-regularlyand don't take any one thing too
extreme and you'll be.
You know, you'll land in apretty good place.
Speaker 1 (48:57):
I love that.
And the second one how couldpeople find you, get ahold of
you and learn more?
Speaker 2 (49:02):
Yes, so I am Danny Sheriff on Instagram.
If you're interested in likeour work and our practice,
dannysheriff on instagram.
If you're interested in likeour work and our practice, maybe
it's you who has low hormonefunction issues, or your
daughter or your sister orsomeone.
We are thehasocietycom and Ihave a ton of education
resources.
Like all day, every day, I'mputting education out on the low
(49:26):
hormone topic, so it's a goodplace to go and just dive in and
find out, like if you likepodcasts, if you like YouTube
videos, if you like articles.
You know I got you there.
So the H?
A societycom is a solidstarting point.
Speaker 1 (49:40):
Danny, thank you so much for coming on.
Thank you, guys, for listeningto this week's episode of health
, to fitness redefined.
Don't forget, hit thatsubscribe button, share this
with a friend and rememberfitness is medicine.
Until next time I'm out OutroMusic.
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