April 14, 2025 • 47 mins
Mind fitness is as crucial as body fitness, serving as preventative medicine for our mental health before we reach crisis points. Brain fitness expert Arnold shares how we can break free from societal conditioning to live our authentic lives rather than meeting others' expectations.
• Modern mental health struggles began long before COVID-19
• We spend 20-25 years being conditioned to be the same as everyone else
• Most people are living "someone else's life" rather than their own
• Constant comparison on social media creates a "fitting in" mentality
• Education systems focus on conformity rather than helping students express uniqueness
• Helicopter parenting prevents children from developing mental resilience
• Experiencing adversity is essential for personal growth and development
• Replacing your inner critic with an inner cheerleader is the first step to mental freedom
• Exercise is the most effective antidepressant with zero negative side effects
• The will to live and mental determination are powerful healing forces
• Arnold's 15-week program helps remove the 34 "straitjackets" limiting our potential
Visit braingymfitness.com to learn more about Arnold's training program and masterclasses or to schedule a personal consultation.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Hello and welcome to Health and Fitness Redefined.
I'm your host, anthony Amen,and today we've got another
great episode for all of you.
Super excited to have this out.
Happy April to everyonelistening, hopping into Easter's
right around the corner,meaning the weather's starting
to turn here in New York, thankGod, because it's been a
brutally cold winter.
Anyway, without further ado,let's welcome to the show,
(00:29):
arnold.
Arnold, it's a pleasure to haveyou on today.
Thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Excited to be here.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Yeah, excited to have you calling all the way from
Romania, so that's fun.
Yes, opposite side of the world, tell us a little bit about how
you got into this field.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Well, the field is brain fitness.
Actually, the idea came to mein 2019 when I was on my bike.
I'm Dutch, I lived then in theNetherlands and I had just been
supporting my sister in a mentalillness institution where they
(01:10):
put you for all kinds of therapytype of classes and my sister
was diagnosed with depressionand it didn't work.
Actually, the therapy andeverything what they wanted to
do, they made the situationworse and because, well, it's
hard for her to talk with thelet's call it management, so I
(01:33):
went with her there.
I was really surprised howlittle these folks are keeping
their knowledge and experienceup to date.
It was kind of shocking.
And at the same time, they justlooked at the therapy in the
classes, like what they call, inbusiness terms, utilization.
(01:54):
It's like we need to get ourclasses full.
We're not interested whether ithelps you or not.
And on my way back home, I wason my way back home to help my
mother who had dementia for thelast eight years.
So I had very personalexperience dealing with dementia
(02:15):
, with the elderly, depression,with my sister, and I know a lot
of people are struggling withit and I'm like, hey, the moment
you're in this situation wherethings are not going well in
well for for your mental andemotional health.
What can we do to prevent?
(02:37):
Because the moment you're there, sorry to say, you're screwed
and and there's not much whichcan help you uh, actually, in
most cases nothing.
So, um, but then it's, it'skind of too late.
And so that's when I was on mybike home and I said, just like
body fitness, we need brainfitness.
(02:58):
So that is, um, when I startedbuilding this brain fitness off
that's a lot to deal with yoursister, your mom.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
It definitely takes a whole on an individual to have
to balance everything, even ontop of everything, on top of
your personal life, especiallymental health.
Like you said before, covid wasthe eye opening how bad mental
health got and it justskyrocketed.
The number of people that weredealing with depression and
anxiety Coming out of it.
(03:29):
They said that people lookingfor like counselors and
therapists it has almost tripledin the last five years.
It's just the whole way it wasapproached and the anxiety that
was pushing to societies reallytook a toll on our mental health
as a whole and you're stillseeing the effects of that today
.
Is that something you're seeingon your end?
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Well, I started noticing it nine years ago when
I worked with young people, withteenagers, people in their 20s,
when I lived in budapest inhungary, and I was surprised to
hear and this is nine years ago,so this was for the kofi thing
(04:12):
that all of them and I'm notexaggerating all of them they
they were having experience withstress, burnout, depression,
and each and every one of themknew someone who had committed
suicide.
This was nine years ago and Iwas totally shocked by that and
I was like whoa, what'shappening here, and fast forward
(04:35):
a couple of years, is that, yes, you're right with the COVID
thing and it get more attentionand interest, but also, it's it
was a trend which had alreadystarted.
So it's not like everything wasokay and then the COVID came
and the illness became an issue.
No, it was already there, butit became more visible and
(05:00):
actually, well, it's a trendwhich has been continuing ever
since and the trend means it'sreally in a bad situation.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
I totally agree.
I actually think, if you wantto look back to see when cases
really started going up ingeneral, like the first jump the
year at least for us here inthe States the years they
started introducingparticipation trophies, and
teachers got afraid to use redink and you had to treat
everyone like they were thisspecial snowflake of an
individual.
(05:31):
And the reason that that playsa parallel to mental health is
if I say to somebody grown upthe whole time you're amazing,
you're special, you're, you'rethe best at abcde, and then
something bad happens in my life, which is inevitable as humans,
that I'm going to take that toheart and I'm having no coping
skills of how to deal with thatsituation.
(05:51):
So that's going to make me gooff the edge and I'm going to
have panic attacks, depression,anxiety.
All that's going to build up,because I was never taught as a
kid about how to deal withhardship, how to deal with
things going wrong in my life,because everyone put me in a
bubble and said good luck.
(06:11):
You take that as just a parallelexample to exposing kids to
bacteria viruses getting outside.
The kids that are put in abubble really super clean
environments, never go outside,never have interactions with
people, get a lot sicker whenthey get older, as opposed to
those kids that play, put in abubble of really super clean
environments, never go outside,never have interactions with
people, get a lot sicker whenthey get older, as opposed to
those kids that play in the mudor go constantly around everyone
like you need to expose them tothese things because they get
(06:34):
again, their immune systemlearns to cope, and that's
really what you're looking for.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
I totally agree, uh, but it's not only physical, it
is also mental and emotional.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
In the.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
US, you call it helicopter parenting.
It's like everything is managedand everything is done and
everything is to make them feelfine, whereas, just like you
said in the beginning, it's like, well, we basically live in a
duality.
It is not everything is goingto be okay the rest of your life
(07:12):
.
No, you're going to experienceshit in your life.
And, just like with the goodthings, it's like you need to
experience and, based on yourexperience, you build a
resilience and you build up waysto deal with that.
But they don't learn it becauseeverything is like oh, let's be
(07:33):
careful, let's not do that.
I was just this morning talkingwith a friend about his son had
to go to a birthday party in thesame city and he had to bring
them.
And then he had to waitbirthday party in the same city
and he had to bring them, andthen he had to wait two hours in
the car.
I said why don't you go on thebike?
He was like that is the way Igrew up.
(07:54):
I grew up in an extremeenvironment.
My father was a military, soeverything was about being very
tough and whatever, and it wasreally over the top.
But now it's like it's flippedto the total other side.
It's like people are treatedlike pussies and that might seem
nice, but inevitably you willexperience setbacks and, like
(08:19):
you said, if you're not used todeal with it, it's like what
should I do?
Speaker 1 (08:25):
you're not used to deal with it.
It's like what should I do?
You're not wrong whatsoever.
And I'm going to give apersonal example for those that
don't continually listen to myshow and for you yourself, but
my parents.
I'm one of four, right, so Ihad the experience growing up to
see how different people reactand how each of my siblings are
(08:47):
different as far as mentalhealth goes, because we are
still all close.
Me personally, I was a veryprivate individual growing up,
so my mom knew that I was upset.
My mom knew I was having mentalhealth issues because I got
bullied, beat up in school foryears.
I got bullied, beat up inschool for years and there
(09:09):
wasn't like an over-interactionbecause I didn't tell her like
all the details of everythingthat was going on.
And then, come middle school, Itried killing.
I thought about killing myselfand I remember like my parents
were out, I had a knife in myhand and I was like, all right,
I'm going to end my life, likeright now, like this is going to
, this is it, this is the end ofit.
And I didn't do it.
Obviously, and the biggestreason I didn't do it is because
(09:29):
one I felt like my parentsloved me and they said, okay, my
family's going to be upset ifI'm no longer around.
And in order to get over thisdepression, I need to figure
something out Like cause, I told.
Told myself I'm going to killmyself, but to not be in the
situation I'm in now, because Ican't take another day going to
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school and going through what Iwas going through there.
So I told myself, if I'm notgoing to end my life, I need to
be a different person.
I need to change my personality, I need to change who I am, I
need to change what's going onwith my environment around me.
So I went to bed that night andI was laying with my eyes open
and I said, okay, I'm now nolonger going to be this version
(10:11):
of anthony and I'm going tobecome a different version of
anthony.
I'm no longer going to be shy,I'm no longer going to be quiet
like.
One of the biggest things thatcontributed to getting bullied
was that I had no friends and Iwas all alone and everything was
like, if I could build the,could build the support of our
environment in school, like Ihave at home, I could have more
protection network, and I onlydo that by coming out of my
shell.
So over the course of three tosix months I used little tactics
(10:36):
to help make myself moreoutgoing.
A lot of repetitive thoughts inmy head.
Time was talk to people, talkto people, talk to people you're
not going, you're not going,you're not going over.
And I convinced myself that Iwas a totally different person.
And it worked like over thecourse of years.
I built friends, I built asupport group and I never told
my parents about any of thisuntil actually recently because
(10:58):
I started coming public about it.
But like I'm going to your pointand going to what this is about
, I didn't have a therapist, Ididn't have a counselor, I
didn't have anyone else.
I put myself through gruelingmonths of training of mental
health for myself to become adifferent person.
And now how does that relate towho I am?
(11:19):
Now I get upset, but I've neverhad depression like onset
episodes that last years.
A lot of things don't bother melike anymore.
I could just end up brushing up.
My wife says to a point thatlike literally nothing bothers
me, but like the point beinglike my mental health and my
(11:39):
outlook on life, because Ireally think like overall, my
life is very good.
There are stressors.
I'm like a very positive, happy, very good.
There are stressors.
I'm like a very positive, happyperson 99% of the time.
That's all because of thatmoment.
And if you fast forward to whenI had my really bad accident,
which a lot of people know about, and doctors wrote me off and
said like this is it?
Your life is going to bebasically over.
(12:00):
You're going to be stuck onmedicine.
You never really move your neckagain, never move the shoulder
again, I had the mental capacityto say no F you.
I said that in my head.
Obviously I'm going to redo mylife.
You don't know who I am and I'mgoing to be somebody who
overcomes this.
And I did in the study of myown business, went through shit,
(12:20):
starting your own business ofhaving no money and building
something from the ground up.
You don't know me, I'm going todo this on my own.
That's all contributed back tothat suicide episode where I was
able to overcome that becausethey didn't have this lack of a
better word of people saying youdude, you're gonna be great,
(12:41):
you're a special snowflake.
No, I had to figure it outmyself and move on from there.
And I think that, like to yourpoint where people get overly
involved and people jump and say, no, it's great, you're such a
great person, blah, blah, blah,blah.
That person never then has theopportunity to grow and become
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somebody else.
Obviously, you need to showsomeone support.
That's what I needed support.
But I didn't want people tellingme how great I was.
I don't want people saying thatthat version of anthony is
fantastic and that version ofanthony is amazing and you don't
need to change.
It's everybody else.
No, anthony needed to change.
Anthony needs to work on hismental health and and he needs
(13:22):
to pick himself back up, getkicked in the mud, stand back up
and go again.
But all I need to know is thatthere's people that around that
love me and I think that if youcan incorporate that into
society, I think that's how youcurb and help our mental health
epidemic we're having going onnow.
I don't know your thoughts onthat.
That was a lot, but that's mystory.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Well, congratulations on the work you did about
yourself.
That is a very deep point.
From where you are now, sototal chapeau to what you've
been doing.
And what I call this is thatmost people are living someone
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else's life.
They're not living their ownlife.
What do I mean by that?
Is the moment you're born.
When are you a good kid?
When you do what your parentstell you to do.
When are you a good kid whenyou do what you go to school?
When you?
When are you a good student?
When you do what your teachertells you to do, then you, well,
doesn't matter which schoolprimary school, high school,
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maybe you go to university orvocational training.
When are you a good student?
When you do what your professoror your teacher tells you to do
so?
By the time we're 2025, the onlything what we have learned is
to live someone else's life isto meet the expectations of
other people, meet theexpectations of your parent.
(14:45):
Well, you, just before the showyou were explaining about your
kid, it's like, oh, it's notcrying, or it's crying, yeah.
Well, it's not a good kid,you're just crying.
It's like it's constantly theexpectations of other people
which you're supposed to meet.
When are you a good student?
When you meet the expectationof your teachers.
When are you well, I'm not eventalking about working when are
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you a good employee?
When you do exactly what yourboss tells you to do.
So it's constantly meetingexpectations of other people,
but the consequence is that youlive someone else's life, you're
not living your own life, andwhat you just described, anthony
, is the process where youchange from what I call fitting
in to flying out is like fittingin means living someone else's
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life, and now you made adecision and say I want to live
my own life, I want tounderstand who I am and what I
want to do right, and that's theissue of it right.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
So everyone's constantly looking for on social
facebook and instagram and theyalways compare themselves to
everybody else.
And I want to be like thatperson and I want to fit like
this person and it's this I wantto be like everybody else.
Kind of mentality, not just Iwant to be my own person, like
who gives a about everybody else, like just focus on being you
(16:06):
and that's to your point.
But I want to kind of tie thisright.
So what you said where, likeyou're growing up, you need to
be what your parents want you tobe, you go to school.
You need to be where yourteachers want you to be, like,
even schools aren't the creativeoutlets that they were designed
to be anymore.
They want you to go throughexactly how they want you to
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graduate and who you weresupposed to be is all defined by
your teachers and the way theschool's designed.
And you don't realize that,like, until you're out.
And then you go, like you said,it makes you go to college, and
then you're hearing it fromprofessors who are trying to
design you to be an individualand tell you you need this exact
thing in order to be happy.
So you're constantly chasingsomebody else's dream,
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constantly chasing somebodyelse's vision.
And then when you graduate,you're like, well, now what?
So you just try to do somethingon your own.
But you're like, eh no, I'mjust going to go work for
somebody because that person cantell me that I'm happy.
And then you're 40 years laterdown the line and you're like,
holy shit, my life, like whatwas it worth?
Like I always constantly listento everyone else's approval.
I never got my own approval, Inever really dove for myself,
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and you only see that inside ofa small group of people and most
of those people end up beingentrepreneurs, because it's
really tough and a lot of peopledon't mention that.
Like you no longer have peopletelling you're doing a good job.
You no longer have like, oh,this is how you do this.
It's a lot of work, and I thinkthis is the biggest struggle
for me personally is like youhave to design everything.
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And then you have all thesepeople that work for you that
you are trying to tell them howto do a good job in order to fit
your vision, to make thingswork, because that's what
they're looking for.
They're looking for, hey, I'mdoing a good job, which is fine.
Some people are like that andsome people enjoy that.
But like there's the othergroup of people that we don't
coddle to, we don't help out,and those are the people that
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are the free thinkers thatreally want to do things
themselves and design their ownlife and do things their own way
and there's no systems thathelp push people to be like that
.
Like you talk about, mygeneration is when it really
started.
Like I've talked about theparticipation trophies, I talked
about how helicopter parentslike you mentioned and even take
it to the point when you'regoing to cop, like you're in
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high school and your parents andyour guidance counselors are
all asking what college are yougoing to?
It's you're in high school andyour parents and your guidance
counselors are all asking youwhat college are you going to?
It's never like well, what doyou want to do?
Like well, you want to startyour own business.
Do you want to do this?
You want to do that?
It's well.
What school are you going to goto?
What major are you going totake?
What are you going to be afteryou do that?
It's like well, ever said, youdon't have to go to college.
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Like I was told, I have to goto college and I went to college
and it did nothing for me, like, so what?
What was the point of going toschool to see?
If somebody else told me thatthis is the way?
I need to be happy it's.
It really played a lot of roles.
And then we dig ourselves intodeep debt, right, four years of
undergrads, expensive as andthen I was at the point where
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like, oh, I need to look at mymaster's degree in order to get
funds to have a business, toopen up a business.
So I did two years of thatwasted even more money.
So I ended up being a quartermillion dollars in debt for
something that I never evenended up using or like
contributing to any of mysuccess, and it took seven years
of my life.
And or you look at individualsthat just go and take these
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majors that really don't lead tocareers.
So many people are forced intothese little buckets of these
liberal arts majors that reallylike don't matter in the
workforce, like don't aren'tgoing to get them that leg up.
It's what they expect.
So when they graduate andeveryone told them that this is
what they had to do, they had tostudy this degree.
And then they graduate and it'snow like okay, I can't get a
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job and I'm super freaking indebt, I have nothing going for
me, I can't afford an apartment.
I have to move back in with mymom and dad.
There's no independency,there's no self-growth, and they
just stuck and in this littletiny hole that almost becomes
impossible to get out of it'sit's.
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Then it leads to more mentalhealth issues.
So it's like a thisnever-ending cycle, if that
makes sense yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Well, what I say is that, in the whole education
system, and including yourupbringing, is we.
That's why it takes 20 to 25years.
They're doing everything tomake you the same as everybody
else.
That's why it takes so long.
It takes 20, 25 years andthey're putting on it.
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You got to be the same aseverybody else, behave in the
same way, follow orders, beobedient, do everything what's
expected of you, whereas we allhuman beings are unique.
You are unique, everybody isunique, whereas if we would be
using it and that's why it takesso long, because we need to
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condition you, to manipulate youfor 20, 25 years to make you
look the same as everybody else,whereas you and I and everybody
else is a unique human being soit would be much, much more
beneficial.
It's like, well, some education, of course, to read and write
and speak another language.
That is very useful, but it'slike it would be much more
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helpful if it helped you toexpress your uniqueness.
I was at the beginning of my 40swhen I, after a perfect storm,
I found a very good coach.
This is, by the way, 25 yearsago, so that was, having a coach
was not very common then, butit's like that was the first
person in my life I repeat, thefirst person in my life, I
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repeat, the first person in mylife who asked Arnold, what do
you want?
Huh, I had no clue.
Nobody my parents, my teachers,my bosses, nobody cared what I
wanted.
It's like we want you to dothis and do it as I'm told, and
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then you're fine and you're okay.
And he was like I didn't know,because for 40 years of my life
nobody had ever asked me thatquestion.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Yeah, I mean, this is what it comes down to, right.
I couldn't agree more than youLike.
There's so many issues, so thereal question is how do you get
past that?
As an individual whobrainwashing is just just
because lack of a better word onthis, people are going to take
that to heart.
But I mean, that's really whatit is.
Uh, after 20, 25 years of that,like, how does an individual
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get past that and become theirown self?
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Yeah, well, that is what I've been working on for, I
would say, the last 25 years,first for myself and then
helping my clients how to createthis path and how to do that.
And that's why I ended upbuilding a training program
which is called from fitting into flying out, and it's a
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15-week training program where Ihelp people what I call you
call the brainwashing, and Itotally agree.
I call it conditioning.
So what I do is unconditioning,to help you to remove the
conditioning.
And we don't realize it.
But I've identified 34 differentstraitjackets that we all wear
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and in any sports event lastsummer we had the Olympics in
Paris and whatever and I askpeople, how many people are
there who won a gold medal whoare wearing a straitjacket and
they look like Arnold?
What's that?
A crazy question?
That's a stupid question.
Of course nobody does.
But why do you do?
Because those straitjackets arelimiting our capability, are
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limiting our talents, arelimiting our qualities.
But we don't realize it.
Because that is what theeducation system is.
It puts you in straitjacketafter straitjacket after
straitjacket, and I help peopleto reveal what those
straitjackets are and the stepsthey can take to take it off and
express themselves the way theyreally are.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
So what's the simple version Like?
What message can we leavelisteners to Like?
Here's a place to start to helprealize that, like their own
individual and they can surpasswhat society wants them to do?
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Well, step number one is be kind to yourself.
We are so used that everybodyelse is criticizing us all the
time my father was, he was amilitary officer.
I never get a compliment in mylife from him, so he's always
criticizing.
That's not good.
(25:04):
That's what happened inbusiness.
That's happening at school.
That's happening.
We always focus on what youdon't do.
So, based on that voice, youdevelop your own inner critic.
It's literally called yourinner critic.
It's most like the things wesay to ourselves are really
terrible.
So what I say so step one is bekind to yourself, meaning,
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replace your inner critic withan inner cheerleader, because
you already mentioned it,anthony is that you don't have
people cheering you on.
You don't have people.
Like I said, in my upbringing Ihad only criticism.
Nobody helped me, even in thisprocess, nobody helped me.
Even in this process, nobodyhelped me.
I all had to do it by myself.
(25:49):
Yeah, so if, if, on top of that, I would be constantly
criticizing myself, well, Iprobably would have killed
myself as well.
Yeah, so it's it's like.
That is why I say is like,develop an inner cheerleader.
You are supposed to be your ownbiggest fan and you don't need
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to tell anyone, but you've gotto support yourself in doing
that.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Here's a great example.
Like in both fitness and inboth the business owner side of
it, it's a marathon, right?
You start at the start line andthere's hundreds of people
cheering you on, whether that'syou starting your own business
or you're starting your ownweight loss journey, right,
everyone's cheering on.
Go gun goes.
You start running.
After the first 10th of a mileor quarter mile, there's no more
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people and then you're stuckrunning 26 miles by yourself
with nobody but your ownthoughts pushing you forward, to
take the next step, to move on,and then you get to the finish
line.
You finish what you're tryingto do, whether you lost 100
pounds of weight loss or youhave a really successful
business and you're making a lotof money and then people look
(27:02):
at you and go, oh, it must beeasy for you.
Like, that's what you get atthe end.
Or then the small group ofpeople are sharing your own,
everyone else criticizing you.
Look at politics as an example.
With entrepreneurs, you takethe top most successful people
in the US.
Take Bill Gates, take JeffBezos, elon Musk.
You get so successful to apoint you start getting critics
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of everyone saying, oh, it's gotto be easy for him.
It's unfair.
Look how rich they are.
Why do they need that kind ofmoney?
Because these people were sotaught that you follow somebody
else's dream.
You follow the college route,you do that, you climb a
corporate ladder, you're goingto be successful, and instead
they're watching somebody whodidn't do that.
(27:45):
Most of these people didn'teven go to college or drop out,
and they're way more successfulthan them and they just become
jealous.
And that jealousy turns to hateand they start.
Well, it's not, they're justdifferent.
That's all.
That's why it's unfair whenrealizing every single person
can be as successful as thosepeople.
It's just a matter of you needto push yourself for 26 miles on
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your own and you don't.
No one sees the battles that yougo through with your own mental
health, whether it's a weightloss journey and you can, like
you're trying to gym for thefirst or second time, it's tough
.
It's tough to start moving andmoving like a pound weight.
You feel pathetic.
You're like I don't understandall these people lifting so much
more than me, people doing somuch more than me, and it's hard
(28:33):
and it takes years.
Or you're starting a businessLike there's so many times you
just want to give up and you'rejust like, wow, this is the
toughest thing ever.
Like I'm struggling financially, I'm struggling mentally, like
I don't know if I want to moveforward, like how do I know when
I make it, and you justconstantly have these battles
with going through any kind ofjourney like that.
(28:53):
And people don't understandthat until you do it.
And so that's why I can look atpeople like really successful
people, really in shape peopleor I know it's not easy, I know
the I can tell by looking atsomebody who is successful in
every aspect of life, like theymust've had some shit thrown at
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them along the way.
And I don't understand peoplethat are going to sit there and
get mad at these individuals.
Like they deserve that.
They went through fucking shit.
They deserve every singlepayment.
They deserve that body thatthey have because they did.
They made sacrifices that Iwasn't willing to make.
They missed family meals, theymissed holidays.
(29:34):
They tracked duringThanksgiving if it's the weight
loss side, or tracked duringChristmas.
They didn't eat those sweets.
They had the strictest diet orthey had the strictest financial
health like that.
They took sacrifices I wasunwilling to take and therefore
they're more successful to be inthose two aspects and that's
why they deserve it.
And you look at things that wayand say I'm okay with them
(29:57):
being more successful than me.
I need both those ways becauseI didn't take those sacrifices,
and that's fine.
Everyone has their own endpoint.
But you can't be jealous andyou just be okay with it, and
then you can start looking atyourself well, if I want to be
like this, I need to make thosesacrifices, and then you really
start seeing the worlddifferently.
That makes sense yeah, totally,totally.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
But people have to understand that in this world of
duality, which I explainedearlier, is like you only learn
and grow through adversity.
So if you want to learn andgrow a lot, you need to have a
lot of shit in your life, whichI had and I'm still having.
While I was struggling with mystartup yourself, I had three
(30:44):
years ago a very severe carcrash.
A guy came in to me with 80kilometers an hour.
I crashed into that car.
It was 100% his fault.
But well, I won't bother youwith the details.
But on top of my strugglinggetting my business started, my
startup, I was severely kind ofhandicapped and I had to take
(31:06):
care of my mother with dementia.
At the same time, folks, evenif you look at me, people seem
to be fine.
They have no clue what shit Iwent through.
Unfortunately, that's the worldin which we live.
Of these millionaires andbillionaires, a lot of the kids
(31:26):
they have, children.
These children are just lazybastards.
They do nothing and everythingis being done for them and paid
for them and whatever.
These folks know nothing.
They can deal with nothing.
Just because there was noadversity, everything was fine
and okay.
So adversity, you can say I dondon't want adversity, but you
(31:50):
might also welcome it, becausethat is your way to grow I mean,
look at the most successfulpeople they're all.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
most of them are self-made, right?
Self-made billionaires,self-made millionaires.
They had the shit of the shit.
You read some of their booksand you're like, oh my god, they
went through that, like that'scrazy.
Like you hear their stories butlike, to your point, then they
have kids and then their kidsdon't have those adversities.
So they end up blowing all themoney and understanding
everything and being like notunderstanding how the way the
(32:18):
world works.
So it's.
I did a couple episodes on thisalready.
But adversity is what makespeople.
So adversity is what makespeople and to your point, you
need to go do shit.
But you need to go do shit andnot have people pick you up.
You need to pick yourself up,like, look at, I have an infant.
(32:39):
This is a great example and Ithink people are really going to
understand this.
When kids are learning to crawland walk right, what do you?
Are you supposed to hold themthe whole time and make sure
they don't fall and make surethat they just end up being okay
?
No, you're supposed to let themstumble, you're supposed to let
them kind of tip over so theylearn, like, how not to
(33:01):
distribute their body weight andhow to move, and they, we have
it as kids.
It's innate inside of ourselvesLike, oh, I shouldn't do that,
that hurts and maybe I need todo this in order to start moving
or start talking, they need toscrew up a thousand times and
they fix themselves as opposedto us as parents, thinking that
(33:24):
we're just going to do it forthem because we can't.
At that stage, they don'tunderstand us.
We're just going to do it forthem because we can't.
At that stage, like they don'tunderstand us.
So they just learned the worldthrough making mistakes and
picking themselves back up.
And they do that for the firstyear of life, like that's what
humans are meant to do.
And then, when they startbecoming like independent and
they start understanding us,then to your point as a parent
(33:47):
or as a school is are we goingto sit there and conform them,
or are we going to let them failand pick themselves back up and
just let them know that we lovethem?
But it's okay that they fail aslong as they get their ass back
up?
Speaker 2 (34:08):
Yes, but that is the type of world in which we live.
So you do fitness.
It's like if you pull one kiloevery day, you're like, oh look,
I pulled one kilo, that's notgoing to make you stronger, so
it's like you need to increasethe weight to increase your
strength, and so that is withanything in life, and that is
(34:34):
the not good trend.
Which is happening with mentalillness is that people are like
oh, you shouldn't be sad, youshouldn't be depressed, you
shouldn't be anxious.
Well, it's totally normal.
It's totally normal to beanxious about the future or
worry about the future.
It's it's.
If you, you had a lot ofsetbacks, you you might be
(34:58):
depressed.
That's okay.
And so don't try to say itshouldn't be there, it's not
allowed, it's not allowed in mylife and I need medicine and all
kinds of shit to to say that isnot in my life.
Hey, but it is part of life.
It is part of life and you willgrow over it and and, and then
(35:20):
you will go to the next step,whatever.
And don't run immediately toyour doctor and say I, I need
some antidepressants, becausethe antidepressants will cause,
on average, six side effects forwhich you need other medicines.
It's like, hey, I'm depressedsometimes.
Well, guess how I did wasdepressed when, well, I I cannot
(35:43):
do.
My main thing was doing sports.
I cannot do anymore because myheel is destroyed.
Is it like it can be sad anddepressed?
Yeah, for some time, but now Iwill.
I need to be able to.
I can walk again.
Yeah, I can walk.
Nobody is happy that they canwalk.
I'm happy that I can walk.
So it's like, don't, don't saythat challenges and setbacks and
(36:09):
problems should not be part ofyour life.
It is a part of your life andyou need to deal with it and
there's nothing wrong with you.
It's not like your parents orsomeone else take you to the
doctor.
I know you need to take somepills because you're a bit sad,
yeah, of course.
When you go broke with yourstartup and you don't have any
money, yeah, then you're sad.
Or you're anxious about whetheryou're sad, yeah, or you're
(36:31):
anxious about whether you canmeet payroll tomorrow.
That is just normal, but itdoesn't mean it's like, oh, we
need to get him to shrink, andtherapy and medicine, because
it's part of life.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
I mean, look at, take pharmaceuticals as an example.
Like you said, people get thesniffles and it's let's run to
the doctor.
Like they're just not.
Like you're supposed to getsick to your point, right, your
body's meant to get sick and getover it.
There's a lot of sicknessesthat you don't need medication
for.
There are some you doabsolutely, but, like a common
(37:04):
cold, you don't need to run to adoctor and be like I have the
sniffles, make these go away.
Like you, just, it's just partof life.
Like you're supposed to getsick.
People that are afraid to getsick.
Like what's going to happen isyou're going to get 70, 80 years
old and then a really simpledisease is going to kill you
because you didn't exposeyourself to it as an infant or
(37:26):
as a young adult or as an adult.
You just hid, hid from it.
Or, like you said, depression orgetting upset Like you're
supposed to get upset.
It's a part of life.
You don't need to run tosomebody else to feel better.
Like I still get upset.
I still have days I get superstressed.
Or you get super sad, like ithappens, but the difference is I
(37:47):
don't let it control my life.
I have an episode 24, 48 hours,whatever.
And it's like, okay, what am Idoing and what can I do to help
myself move on from this?
And there are sad things thathappen, but it's, how are you
going to react to it?
And you look I look fromlooking to myself as opposed to
looking on the outside, lookingfor the people and your body as
(38:10):
much as this phrase is overusedis a temple right and it's only
going to be able to help you for, as efficient as it is, the
same example as the immunesystem goes, the same example as
your physical health.
If you don't take care of yourphysical health and your body's
too busy fighting, like type 2diabetes or high blood pressure,
all these preventable diseases,and it's not running smooth,
(38:35):
like that's why depression andanxiety is going to be harder,
because your body's preoccupiedtrying to take care of the other
things going on, like treatyour body well, take care of
your health, and you're going tosee a huge difference.
I mean, the most underutilizedantidepressant that has beat out
every antidepressant on themarket, like any pill form and
(38:58):
has absolutely zero negativeside effects, is the thing
that's not used at all.
What is it working at?
That's it get you want to helpserotonin and dopamine releases.
Exercise.
There's no side effects besidesgood ones, right and there's no
pill you have to take andyou'll feel a lot better.
(39:20):
I mean, people don't even dothat, and that's way better than
every kind of SSRI out there,and no doctor is prescribing
exercise.
They're prescribing pills Likeno, you're 100 pounds overweight
.
Go start exercising.
Think about how much you'regoing to feel Like.
It's the one thing you shouldgo for first before hopping onto
(39:43):
anything like that.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
I would like.
I totally agree, anthony, and Iwould like to add add it is
body fitness and brain fitness,because the reason that I now
can walk reasonably well isbecause I was extremely fit and
doing all kinds of sports andexercise.
Otherwise by now I would havebeen in a wheelchair.
(40:07):
But the main thing was apsychologist who checked my
brain because it appeared thatthree years after my accident
and I still had a lot ofcomplaints and I said there's
something not right.
And finally over here in wainiathey found out I had a tbr yeah
, traumatic brain injury, whichcaused all those problems.
But that psychologist whotested me and said your brain is
(40:30):
totally messed up, but the waythat you're still alive and that
you're so clear and you're sowell operating is because you
have been working on brainfitness.
So she said a regular personwould have had my brain
situation that would be totallymessed up.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
But she said because you were working for the last 25
years on my brain fitness,that's how you survive you ever
want a good example of that, Ihighly recommend you either talk
to a nurse or a doctor, or yougo spend time at a hospital and
you go look at stroke units, oryou go look time at a hospital
and you go look at like strokeunits, or you go look at hospice
units.
(41:11):
And there's one thing you'regoing to notice above everything
else is the will to live andthe will to get better.
Nothing to do with how severethe stroke, how how sick you are
, how old you are.
It's all about willpower.
And let me give you someexamples.
It's when someone loses thewill to live at an elder age
(41:34):
from the sickness, they dieright away.
Some cases, like there's beenso many times my wife has told
me stories or I've seen myselfpeople say I'm done and they die
that night right.
Or you look at we see it withstroke patients like people, a
lot of family relatives andeveryone has stroke.
(41:54):
It's the ones that say I'mgonna get better and get over
this, get better and get over it.
It takes a lot of work, butthey do.
They start moving again.
They start walking again,things start disappearing, they
start living a relatively normallife.
The ones that say, no, I can'tget over this, end up staying in
(42:15):
the hospital, eventually, endup getting permanent issues from
it and then passing away,ultimately, from things.
So it's like willpower, which ismental health to your point,
and that's brain fitness 101 isthe thing that will keep you
going forward.
More than anything, it showshow crazy strong our willpower
is as individuals and it's allinside of us.
(42:37):
It's all here already saying,hey, I need to do better, I need
to be better, I can lift more,I can do this.
I mean crazy examples.
Go look online of parents right, the kid has something heavy
falling on them and all of asudden, the parent runs over and
is able to lift this crazyheavy object that they've never
been able to lift in their lifebecause their brain's like fuck,
(42:59):
I gotta get this off my kid.
And people have donespectacular things with
willpower, knowing I need to dothis, and it just hits them, the
adrenaline hits them and goforward.
It's absolutely insane and ifyou ever need to, if you're
going to say, I recommend youjust go see if you can get into
hospice units and just starttalking to people.
It will, it will blow your mind.
Some people, just okay, I'm done, or the other ones that want to
(43:21):
live longer and push through itand end up getting over these
things that are supposed to killthem.
But I, I totally couldn't agreemore.
It's something that needs to beworked on and checked out.
We went like way over, but it'sperfectly okay, because I love
this topic so much.
It's my favorite by far.
So, arnold, I'm just going tojust kind of start wrapping this
(43:41):
up, but I'm going to ask youtwo final questions.
The first one is going to be ifyou were to summarize this
episode in one or two sentences,what if you were?
Speaker 2 (43:51):
to summarize this episode in one or two sentences.
What would be your take onmessage to people?
Speaker 1 (43:57):
The main thing.
What I would like people totake away is to live their own
life.
I love that.
Yeah, I 100% couldn't agreemore.
And the second one, best one ofall for you how can people find
you get a hold of you?
Learn more about what you do.
Speaker 2 (44:09):
Go for it.
My website.
I would send them to my website.
It's braingymfitnessbraingymfitness.
And there I have my trainingprogram, which is a 15 week
program.
It's not 15 week in just onestretch now, it's each week a 90
minute session.
Then you do your homework, youlearn, you grow, whatever, and
(44:31):
then we have another session of90 minutes, total 15 weeks,
which is not crazy.
It might seem a lot, 15 weektraining program, but hey, it
took you 20, 25 years to becomethe same as everybody else.
So by only having a 15-weekprogram to make you well,
release your uniqueness again,that is not much of a stretch.
(44:54):
So I have a training program.
I have some master classeswhich are videos around specific
topics like what is youruniqueness, like dealing with
aging, what are your emotions,habits.
So they're around approximatelyan hour, an hour and a half
(45:17):
about the specific topic.
So those are the two productswhich you can find on Brain
GymFitness.
If you still have any questions, there's a link to my calendar
there so you can book a meetingand we can have a discussion.
Speaker 1 (45:35):
I absolutely love this.
I'm going to give you adifferent outro for everyone
here, which is share thisepisode to those that need to
hear this.
There we went through a lot ofdifferent types of topics,
things of how people, thingspeople need to hear and I think
the only way truly that wechange as a society is for more
people to think like Arnold andI do and a few of our listeners
here today.
So share this, blow this up,get the word out and if we can
(46:00):
get enough people to trulyunderstand that we need to help
our young people, because ouryoung people are the future bar
none.
Our young people because ouryoung people are the future bar
none.
So we need to show, like ourkids and then our kids' kids, if
you're grandparents, like,let's change the world, let's
change the world for the better,let's get through this mental
health epidemic, guys.
(46:21):
So please go ahead, share.
Let's grow this episode, let'sgrow this podcast.
Don't forget fitness ismedicine.
Until next time, outro.
(46:51):
Music Bye.
Hello and welcome to Health and Fitness Redefined.
I'm your host, anthony Amen,and today we've got another
great episode for all of you.
Super excited to have this out.
Happy April to everyonelistening, hopping into Easter's
right around the corner,meaning the weather's starting
to turn here in New York, thankGod, because it's been a
brutally cold winter.
Anyway, without further ado,let's welcome to the show,
(00:29):
arnold.
Arnold, it's a pleasure to haveyou on today.
Thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Excited to be here.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Yeah, excited to have you calling all the way from
Romania, so that's fun.
Yes, opposite side of the world, tell us a little bit about how
you got into this field.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Well, the field is brain fitness.
Actually, the idea came to mein 2019 when I was on my bike.
I'm Dutch, I lived then in theNetherlands and I had just been
supporting my sister in a mentalillness institution where they
(01:10):
put you for all kinds of therapytype of classes and my sister
was diagnosed with depressionand it didn't work.
Actually, the therapy andeverything what they wanted to
do, they made the situationworse and because, well, it's
hard for her to talk with thelet's call it management, so I
(01:33):
went with her there.
I was really surprised howlittle these folks are keeping
their knowledge and experienceup to date.
It was kind of shocking.
And at the same time, they justlooked at the therapy in the
classes, like what they call, inbusiness terms, utilization.
(01:54):
It's like we need to get ourclasses full.
We're not interested whether ithelps you or not.
And on my way back home, I wason my way back home to help my
mother who had dementia for thelast eight years.
So I had very personalexperience dealing with dementia
(02:15):
, with the elderly, depression,with my sister, and I know a lot
of people are struggling withit and I'm like, hey, the moment
you're in this situation wherethings are not going well in
well for for your mental andemotional health.
What can we do to prevent?
(02:37):
Because the moment you're there, sorry to say, you're screwed
and and there's not much whichcan help you uh, actually, in
most cases nothing.
So, um, but then it's, it'skind of too late.
And so that's when I was on mybike home and I said, just like
body fitness, we need brainfitness.
(02:58):
So that is, um, when I startedbuilding this brain fitness off
that's a lot to deal with yoursister, your mom.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
It definitely takes a whole on an individual to have
to balance everything, even ontop of everything, on top of
your personal life, especiallymental health.
Like you said before, covid wasthe eye opening how bad mental
health got and it justskyrocketed.
The number of people that weredealing with depression and
anxiety Coming out of it.
(03:29):
They said that people lookingfor like counselors and
therapists it has almost tripledin the last five years.
It's just the whole way it wasapproached and the anxiety that
was pushing to societies reallytook a toll on our mental health
as a whole and you're stillseeing the effects of that today
.
Is that something you're seeingon your end?
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Well, I started noticing it nine years ago when
I worked with young people, withteenagers, people in their 20s,
when I lived in budapest inhungary, and I was surprised to
hear and this is nine years ago,so this was for the kofi thing
(04:12):
that all of them and I'm notexaggerating all of them they
they were having experience withstress, burnout, depression,
and each and every one of themknew someone who had committed
suicide.
This was nine years ago and Iwas totally shocked by that and
I was like whoa, what'shappening here, and fast forward
(04:35):
a couple of years, is that, yes, you're right with the COVID
thing and it get more attentionand interest, but also, it's it
was a trend which had alreadystarted.
So it's not like everything wasokay and then the COVID came
and the illness became an issue.
No, it was already there, butit became more visible and
(05:00):
actually, well, it's a trendwhich has been continuing ever
since and the trend means it'sreally in a bad situation.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
I totally agree.
I actually think, if you wantto look back to see when cases
really started going up ingeneral, like the first jump the
year at least for us here inthe States the years they
started introducingparticipation trophies, and
teachers got afraid to use redink and you had to treat
everyone like they were thisspecial snowflake of an
individual.
(05:31):
And the reason that that playsa parallel to mental health is
if I say to somebody grown upthe whole time you're amazing,
you're special, you're, you'rethe best at abcde, and then
something bad happens in my life, which is inevitable as humans,
that I'm going to take that toheart and I'm having no coping
skills of how to deal with thatsituation.
(05:51):
So that's going to make me gooff the edge and I'm going to
have panic attacks, depression,anxiety.
All that's going to build up,because I was never taught as a
kid about how to deal withhardship, how to deal with
things going wrong in my life,because everyone put me in a
bubble and said good luck.
(06:11):
You take that as just a parallelexample to exposing kids to
bacteria viruses getting outside.
The kids that are put in abubble really super clean
environments, never go outside,never have interactions with
people, get a lot sicker whenthey get older, as opposed to
those kids that play, put in abubble of really super clean
environments, never go outside,never have interactions with
people, get a lot sicker whenthey get older, as opposed to
those kids that play in the mudor go constantly around everyone
like you need to expose them tothese things because they get
(06:34):
again, their immune systemlearns to cope, and that's
really what you're looking for.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
I totally agree, uh, but it's not only physical, it
is also mental and emotional.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
In the.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
US, you call it helicopter parenting.
It's like everything is managedand everything is done and
everything is to make them feelfine, whereas, just like you
said in the beginning, it's like, well, we basically live in a
duality.
It is not everything is goingto be okay the rest of your life
(07:12):
.
No, you're going to experienceshit in your life.
And, just like with the goodthings, it's like you need to
experience and, based on yourexperience, you build a
resilience and you build up waysto deal with that.
But they don't learn it becauseeverything is like oh, let's be
(07:33):
careful, let's not do that.
I was just this morning talkingwith a friend about his son had
to go to a birthday party in thesame city and he had to bring
them.
And then he had to waitbirthday party in the same city
and he had to bring them, andthen he had to wait two hours in
the car.
I said why don't you go on thebike?
He was like that is the way Igrew up.
(07:54):
I grew up in an extremeenvironment.
My father was a military, soeverything was about being very
tough and whatever, and it wasreally over the top.
But now it's like it's flippedto the total other side.
It's like people are treatedlike pussies and that might seem
nice, but inevitably you willexperience setbacks and, like
(08:19):
you said, if you're not used todeal with it, it's like what
should I do?
Speaker 1 (08:25):
you're not used to deal with it.
It's like what should I do?
You're not wrong whatsoever.
And I'm going to give apersonal example for those that
don't continually listen to myshow and for you yourself, but
my parents.
I'm one of four, right, so Ihad the experience growing up to
see how different people reactand how each of my siblings are
(08:47):
different as far as mentalhealth goes, because we are
still all close.
Me personally, I was a veryprivate individual growing up,
so my mom knew that I was upset.
My mom knew I was having mentalhealth issues because I got
bullied, beat up in school foryears.
I got bullied, beat up inschool for years and there
(09:09):
wasn't like an over-interactionbecause I didn't tell her like
all the details of everythingthat was going on.
And then, come middle school, Itried killing.
I thought about killing myselfand I remember like my parents
were out, I had a knife in myhand and I was like, all right,
I'm going to end my life, likeright now, like this is going to
, this is it, this is the end ofit.
And I didn't do it.
Obviously, and the biggestreason I didn't do it is because
(09:29):
one I felt like my parentsloved me and they said, okay, my
family's going to be upset ifI'm no longer around.
And in order to get over thisdepression, I need to figure
something out Like cause, I told.
Told myself I'm going to killmyself, but to not be in the
situation I'm in now, because Ican't take another day going to
(09:50):
school and going through what Iwas going through there.
So I told myself, if I'm notgoing to end my life, I need to
be a different person.
I need to change my personality, I need to change who I am, I
need to change what's going onwith my environment around me.
So I went to bed that night andI was laying with my eyes open
and I said, okay, I'm now nolonger going to be this version
(10:11):
of anthony and I'm going tobecome a different version of
anthony.
I'm no longer going to be shy,I'm no longer going to be quiet
like.
One of the biggest things thatcontributed to getting bullied
was that I had no friends and Iwas all alone and everything was
like, if I could build the,could build the support of our
environment in school, like Ihave at home, I could have more
protection network, and I onlydo that by coming out of my
shell.
So over the course of three tosix months I used little tactics
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to help make myself moreoutgoing.
A lot of repetitive thoughts inmy head.
Time was talk to people, talkto people, talk to people you're
not going, you're not going,you're not going over.
And I convinced myself that Iwas a totally different person.
And it worked like over thecourse of years.
I built friends, I built asupport group and I never told
my parents about any of thisuntil actually recently because
(10:58):
I started coming public about it.
But like I'm going to your pointand going to what this is about
, I didn't have a therapist, Ididn't have a counselor, I
didn't have anyone else.
I put myself through gruelingmonths of training of mental
health for myself to become adifferent person.
And now how does that relate towho I am?
(11:19):
Now I get upset, but I've neverhad depression like onset
episodes that last years.
A lot of things don't bother melike anymore.
I could just end up brushing up.
My wife says to a point thatlike literally nothing bothers
me, but like the point beinglike my mental health and my
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outlook on life, because Ireally think like overall, my
life is very good.
There are stressors.
I'm like a very positive, happy, very good.
There are stressors.
I'm like a very positive, happyperson 99% of the time.
That's all because of thatmoment.
And if you fast forward to whenI had my really bad accident,
which a lot of people know about, and doctors wrote me off and
said like this is it?
Your life is going to bebasically over.
(12:00):
You're going to be stuck onmedicine.
You never really move your neckagain, never move the shoulder
again, I had the mental capacityto say no F you.
I said that in my head.
Obviously I'm going to redo mylife.
You don't know who I am and I'mgoing to be somebody who
overcomes this.
And I did in the study of myown business, went through shit,
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starting your own business ofhaving no money and building
something from the ground up.
You don't know me, I'm going todo this on my own.
That's all contributed back tothat suicide episode where I was
able to overcome that becausethey didn't have this lack of a
better word of people saying youdude, you're gonna be great,
(12:41):
you're a special snowflake.
No, I had to figure it outmyself and move on from there.
And I think that, like to yourpoint where people get overly
involved and people jump and say, no, it's great, you're such a
great person, blah, blah, blah,blah.
That person never then has theopportunity to grow and become
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somebody else.
Obviously, you need to showsomeone support.
That's what I needed support.
But I didn't want people tellingme how great I was.
I don't want people saying thatthat version of anthony is
fantastic and that version ofanthony is amazing and you don't
need to change.
It's everybody else.
No, anthony needed to change.
Anthony needs to work on hismental health and and he needs
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to pick himself back up, getkicked in the mud, stand back up
and go again.
But all I need to know is thatthere's people that around that
love me and I think that if youcan incorporate that into
society, I think that's how youcurb and help our mental health
epidemic we're having going onnow.
I don't know your thoughts onthat.
That was a lot, but that's mystory.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Well, congratulations on the work you did about
yourself.
That is a very deep point.
From where you are now, sototal chapeau to what you've
been doing.
And what I call this is thatmost people are living someone
(14:03):
else's life.
They're not living their ownlife.
What do I mean by that?
Is the moment you're born.
When are you a good kid?
When you do what your parentstell you to do.
When are you a good kid whenyou do what you go to school?
When you?
When are you a good student?
When you do what your teachertells you to do, then you, well,
doesn't matter which schoolprimary school, high school,
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maybe you go to university orvocational training.
When are you a good student?
When you do what your professoror your teacher tells you to do
so?
By the time we're 2025, the onlything what we have learned is
to live someone else's life isto meet the expectations of
other people, meet theexpectations of your parent.
(14:45):
Well, you, just before the showyou were explaining about your
kid, it's like, oh, it's notcrying, or it's crying, yeah.
Well, it's not a good kid,you're just crying.
It's like it's constantly theexpectations of other people
which you're supposed to meet.
When are you a good student?
When you meet the expectationof your teachers.
When are you well, I'm not eventalking about working when are
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you a good employee?
When you do exactly what yourboss tells you to do.
So it's constantly meetingexpectations of other people,
but the consequence is that youlive someone else's life, you're
not living your own life, andwhat you just described, anthony
, is the process where youchange from what I call fitting
in to flying out is like fittingin means living someone else's
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life, and now you made adecision and say I want to live
my own life, I want tounderstand who I am and what I
want to do right, and that's theissue of it right.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
So everyone's constantly looking for on social
facebook and instagram and theyalways compare themselves to
everybody else.
And I want to be like thatperson and I want to fit like
this person and it's this I wantto be like everybody else.
Kind of mentality, not just Iwant to be my own person, like
who gives a about everybody else, like just focus on being you
(16:06):
and that's to your point.
But I want to kind of tie thisright.
So what you said where, likeyou're growing up, you need to
be what your parents want you tobe, you go to school.
You need to be where yourteachers want you to be, like,
even schools aren't the creativeoutlets that they were designed
to be anymore.
They want you to go throughexactly how they want you to
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graduate and who you weresupposed to be is all defined by
your teachers and the way theschool's designed.
And you don't realize that,like, until you're out.
And then you go, like you said,it makes you go to college, and
then you're hearing it fromprofessors who are trying to
design you to be an individualand tell you you need this exact
thing in order to be happy.
So you're constantly chasingsomebody else's dream,
(16:53):
constantly chasing somebodyelse's vision.
And then when you graduate,you're like, well, now what?
So you just try to do somethingon your own.
But you're like, eh no, I'mjust going to go work for
somebody because that person cantell me that I'm happy.
And then you're 40 years laterdown the line and you're like,
holy shit, my life, like whatwas it worth?
Like I always constantly listento everyone else's approval.
I never got my own approval, Inever really dove for myself,
(17:13):
and you only see that inside ofa small group of people and most
of those people end up beingentrepreneurs, because it's
really tough and a lot of peopledon't mention that.
Like you no longer have peopletelling you're doing a good job.
You no longer have like, oh,this is how you do this.
It's a lot of work, and I thinkthis is the biggest struggle
for me personally is like youhave to design everything.
(17:37):
And then you have all thesepeople that work for you that
you are trying to tell them howto do a good job in order to fit
your vision, to make thingswork, because that's what
they're looking for.
They're looking for, hey, I'mdoing a good job, which is fine.
Some people are like that andsome people enjoy that.
But like there's the othergroup of people that we don't
coddle to, we don't help out,and those are the people that
(18:03):
are the free thinkers thatreally want to do things
themselves and design their ownlife and do things their own way
and there's no systems thathelp push people to be like that
.
Like you talk about, mygeneration is when it really
started.
Like I've talked about theparticipation trophies, I talked
about how helicopter parentslike you mentioned and even take
it to the point when you'regoing to cop, like you're in
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high school and your parents andyour guidance counselors are
all asking what college are yougoing to?
It's you're in high school andyour parents and your guidance
counselors are all asking youwhat college are you going to?
It's never like well, what doyou want to do?
Like well, you want to startyour own business.
Do you want to do this?
You want to do that?
It's well.
What school are you going to goto?
What major are you going totake?
What are you going to be afteryou do that?
It's like well, ever said, youdon't have to go to college.
(18:45):
Like I was told, I have to goto college and I went to college
and it did nothing for me, like, so what?
What was the point of going toschool to see?
If somebody else told me thatthis is the way?
I need to be happy it's.
It really played a lot of roles.
And then we dig ourselves intodeep debt, right, four years of
undergrads, expensive as andthen I was at the point where
(19:08):
like, oh, I need to look at mymaster's degree in order to get
funds to have a business, toopen up a business.
So I did two years of thatwasted even more money.
So I ended up being a quartermillion dollars in debt for
something that I never evenended up using or like
contributing to any of mysuccess, and it took seven years
of my life.
And or you look at individualsthat just go and take these
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majors that really don't lead tocareers.
So many people are forced intothese little buckets of these
liberal arts majors that reallylike don't matter in the
workforce, like don't aren'tgoing to get them that leg up.
It's what they expect.
So when they graduate andeveryone told them that this is
what they had to do, they had tostudy this degree.
And then they graduate and it'snow like okay, I can't get a
(19:53):
job and I'm super freaking indebt, I have nothing going for
me, I can't afford an apartment.
I have to move back in with mymom and dad.
There's no independency,there's no self-growth, and they
just stuck and in this littletiny hole that almost becomes
impossible to get out of it'sit's.
(20:13):
Then it leads to more mentalhealth issues.
So it's like a thisnever-ending cycle, if that
makes sense yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Well, what I say is that, in the whole education
system, and including yourupbringing, is we.
That's why it takes 20 to 25years.
They're doing everything tomake you the same as everybody
else.
That's why it takes so long.
It takes 20, 25 years andthey're putting on it.
(20:41):
You got to be the same aseverybody else, behave in the
same way, follow orders, beobedient, do everything what's
expected of you, whereas we allhuman beings are unique.
You are unique, everybody isunique, whereas if we would be
using it and that's why it takesso long, because we need to
(21:02):
condition you, to manipulate youfor 20, 25 years to make you
look the same as everybody else,whereas you and I and everybody
else is a unique human being soit would be much, much more
beneficial.
It's like, well, some education, of course, to read and write
and speak another language.
That is very useful, but it'slike it would be much more
(21:25):
helpful if it helped you toexpress your uniqueness.
I was at the beginning of my 40swhen I, after a perfect storm,
I found a very good coach.
This is, by the way, 25 yearsago, so that was, having a coach
was not very common then, butit's like that was the first
person in my life I repeat, thefirst person in my life, I
(21:46):
repeat, the first person in mylife who asked Arnold, what do
you want?
Huh, I had no clue.
Nobody my parents, my teachers,my bosses, nobody cared what I
wanted.
It's like we want you to dothis and do it as I'm told, and
(22:06):
then you're fine and you're okay.
And he was like I didn't know,because for 40 years of my life
nobody had ever asked me thatquestion.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Yeah, I mean, this is what it comes down to, right.
I couldn't agree more than youLike.
There's so many issues, so thereal question is how do you get
past that?
As an individual whobrainwashing is just just
because lack of a better word onthis, people are going to take
that to heart.
But I mean, that's really whatit is.
Uh, after 20, 25 years of that,like, how does an individual
(22:45):
get past that and become theirown self?
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Yeah, well, that is what I've been working on for, I
would say, the last 25 years,first for myself and then
helping my clients how to createthis path and how to do that.
And that's why I ended upbuilding a training program
which is called from fitting into flying out, and it's a
(23:12):
15-week training program where Ihelp people what I call you
call the brainwashing, and Itotally agree.
I call it conditioning.
So what I do is unconditioning,to help you to remove the
conditioning.
And we don't realize it.
But I've identified 34 differentstraitjackets that we all wear
(23:39):
and in any sports event lastsummer we had the Olympics in
Paris and whatever and I askpeople, how many people are
there who won a gold medal whoare wearing a straitjacket and
they look like Arnold?
What's that?
A crazy question?
That's a stupid question.
Of course nobody does.
But why do you do?
Because those straitjackets arelimiting our capability, are
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limiting our talents, arelimiting our qualities.
But we don't realize it.
Because that is what theeducation system is.
It puts you in straitjacketafter straitjacket after
straitjacket, and I help peopleto reveal what those
straitjackets are and the stepsthey can take to take it off and
express themselves the way theyreally are.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
So what's the simple version Like?
What message can we leavelisteners to Like?
Here's a place to start to helprealize that, like their own
individual and they can surpasswhat society wants them to do?
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Well, step number one is be kind to yourself.
We are so used that everybodyelse is criticizing us all the
time my father was, he was amilitary officer.
I never get a compliment in mylife from him, so he's always
criticizing.
That's not good.
(25:04):
That's what happened inbusiness.
That's happening at school.
That's happening.
We always focus on what youdon't do.
So, based on that voice, youdevelop your own inner critic.
It's literally called yourinner critic.
It's most like the things wesay to ourselves are really
terrible.
So what I say so step one is bekind to yourself, meaning,
(25:29):
replace your inner critic withan inner cheerleader, because
you already mentioned it,anthony is that you don't have
people cheering you on.
You don't have people.
Like I said, in my upbringing Ihad only criticism.
Nobody helped me, even in thisprocess, nobody helped me.
Even in this process, nobodyhelped me.
I all had to do it by myself.
(25:49):
Yeah, so if, if, on top of that, I would be constantly
criticizing myself, well, Iprobably would have killed
myself as well.
Yeah, so it's it's like.
That is why I say is like,develop an inner cheerleader.
You are supposed to be your ownbiggest fan and you don't need
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to tell anyone, but you've gotto support yourself in doing
that.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Here's a great example.
Like in both fitness and inboth the business owner side of
it, it's a marathon, right?
You start at the start line andthere's hundreds of people
cheering you on, whether that'syou starting your own business
or you're starting your ownweight loss journey, right,
everyone's cheering on.
Go gun goes.
You start running.
After the first 10th of a mileor quarter mile, there's no more
(26:41):
people and then you're stuckrunning 26 miles by yourself
with nobody but your ownthoughts pushing you forward, to
take the next step, to move on,and then you get to the finish
line.
You finish what you're tryingto do, whether you lost 100
pounds of weight loss or youhave a really successful
business and you're making a lotof money and then people look
(27:02):
at you and go, oh, it must beeasy for you.
Like, that's what you get atthe end.
Or then the small group ofpeople are sharing your own,
everyone else criticizing you.
Look at politics as an example.
With entrepreneurs, you takethe top most successful people
in the US.
Take Bill Gates, take JeffBezos, elon Musk.
You get so successful to apoint you start getting critics
(27:24):
of everyone saying, oh, it's gotto be easy for him.
It's unfair.
Look how rich they are.
Why do they need that kind ofmoney?
Because these people were sotaught that you follow somebody
else's dream.
You follow the college route,you do that, you climb a
corporate ladder, you're goingto be successful, and instead
they're watching somebody whodidn't do that.
(27:45):
Most of these people didn'teven go to college or drop out,
and they're way more successfulthan them and they just become
jealous.
And that jealousy turns to hateand they start.
Well, it's not, they're justdifferent.
That's all.
That's why it's unfair whenrealizing every single person
can be as successful as thosepeople.
It's just a matter of you needto push yourself for 26 miles on
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your own and you don't.
No one sees the battles that yougo through with your own mental
health, whether it's a weightloss journey and you can, like
you're trying to gym for thefirst or second time, it's tough
.
It's tough to start moving andmoving like a pound weight.
You feel pathetic.
You're like I don't understandall these people lifting so much
more than me, people doing somuch more than me, and it's hard
(28:33):
and it takes years.
Or you're starting a businessLike there's so many times you
just want to give up and you'rejust like, wow, this is the
toughest thing ever.
Like I'm struggling financially, I'm struggling mentally, like
I don't know if I want to moveforward, like how do I know when
I make it, and you justconstantly have these battles
with going through any kind ofjourney like that.
(28:53):
And people don't understandthat until you do it.
And so that's why I can look atpeople like really successful
people, really in shape peopleor I know it's not easy, I know
the I can tell by looking atsomebody who is successful in
every aspect of life, like theymust've had some shit thrown at
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them along the way.
And I don't understand peoplethat are going to sit there and
get mad at these individuals.
Like they deserve that.
They went through fucking shit.
They deserve every singlepayment.
They deserve that body thatthey have because they did.
They made sacrifices that Iwasn't willing to make.
They missed family meals, theymissed holidays.
(29:34):
They tracked duringThanksgiving if it's the weight
loss side, or tracked duringChristmas.
They didn't eat those sweets.
They had the strictest diet orthey had the strictest financial
health like that.
They took sacrifices I wasunwilling to take and therefore
they're more successful to be inthose two aspects and that's
why they deserve it.
And you look at things that wayand say I'm okay with them
(29:57):
being more successful than me.
I need both those ways becauseI didn't take those sacrifices,
and that's fine.
Everyone has their own endpoint.
But you can't be jealous andyou just be okay with it, and
then you can start looking atyourself well, if I want to be
like this, I need to make thosesacrifices, and then you really
start seeing the worlddifferently.
That makes sense yeah, totally,totally.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
But people have to understand that in this world of
duality, which I explainedearlier, is like you only learn
and grow through adversity.
So if you want to learn andgrow a lot, you need to have a
lot of shit in your life, whichI had and I'm still having.
While I was struggling with mystartup yourself, I had three
(30:44):
years ago a very severe carcrash.
A guy came in to me with 80kilometers an hour.
I crashed into that car.
It was 100% his fault.
But well, I won't bother youwith the details.
But on top of my strugglinggetting my business started, my
startup, I was severely kind ofhandicapped and I had to take
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care of my mother with dementia.
At the same time, folks, evenif you look at me, people seem
to be fine.
They have no clue what shit Iwent through.
Unfortunately, that's the worldin which we live.
Of these millionaires andbillionaires, a lot of the kids
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they have, children.
These children are just lazybastards.
They do nothing and everythingis being done for them and paid
for them and whatever.
These folks know nothing.
They can deal with nothing.
Just because there was noadversity, everything was fine
and okay.
So adversity, you can say I dondon't want adversity, but you
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might also welcome it, becausethat is your way to grow I mean,
look at the most successfulpeople they're all.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
most of them are self-made, right?
Self-made billionaires,self-made millionaires.
They had the shit of the shit.
You read some of their booksand you're like, oh my god, they
went through that, like that'scrazy.
Like you hear their stories butlike, to your point, then they
have kids and then their kidsdon't have those adversities.
So they end up blowing all themoney and understanding
everything and being like notunderstanding how the way the
(32:18):
world works.
So it's.
I did a couple episodes on thisalready.
But adversity is what makespeople.
So adversity is what makespeople and to your point, you
need to go do shit.
But you need to go do shit andnot have people pick you up.
You need to pick yourself up,like, look at, I have an infant.
(32:39):
This is a great example and Ithink people are really going to
understand this.
When kids are learning to crawland walk right, what do you?
Are you supposed to hold themthe whole time and make sure
they don't fall and make surethat they just end up being okay
?
No, you're supposed to let themstumble, you're supposed to let
them kind of tip over so theylearn, like, how not to
(33:01):
distribute their body weight andhow to move, and they, we have
it as kids.
It's innate inside of ourselvesLike, oh, I shouldn't do that,
that hurts and maybe I need todo this in order to start moving
or start talking, they need toscrew up a thousand times and
they fix themselves as opposedto us as parents, thinking that
(33:24):
we're just going to do it forthem because we can't.
At that stage, they don'tunderstand us.
We're just going to do it forthem because we can't.
At that stage, like they don'tunderstand us.
So they just learned the worldthrough making mistakes and
picking themselves back up.
And they do that for the firstyear of life, like that's what
humans are meant to do.
And then, when they startbecoming like independent and
they start understanding us,then to your point as a parent
(33:47):
or as a school is are we goingto sit there and conform them,
or are we going to let them failand pick themselves back up and
just let them know that we lovethem?
But it's okay that they fail aslong as they get their ass back
up?
Speaker 2 (34:08):
Yes, but that is the type of world in which we live.
So you do fitness.
It's like if you pull one kiloevery day, you're like, oh look,
I pulled one kilo, that's notgoing to make you stronger, so
it's like you need to increasethe weight to increase your
strength, and so that is withanything in life, and that is
(34:34):
the not good trend.
Which is happening with mentalillness is that people are like
oh, you shouldn't be sad, youshouldn't be depressed, you
shouldn't be anxious.
Well, it's totally normal.
It's totally normal to beanxious about the future or
worry about the future.
It's it's.
If you, you had a lot ofsetbacks, you you might be
(34:58):
depressed.
That's okay.
And so don't try to say itshouldn't be there, it's not
allowed, it's not allowed in mylife and I need medicine and all
kinds of shit to to say that isnot in my life.
Hey, but it is part of life.
It is part of life and you willgrow over it and and, and then
(35:20):
you will go to the next step,whatever.
And don't run immediately toyour doctor and say I, I need
some antidepressants, becausethe antidepressants will cause,
on average, six side effects forwhich you need other medicines.
It's like, hey, I'm depressedsometimes.
Well, guess how I did wasdepressed when, well, I I cannot
(35:43):
do.
My main thing was doing sports.
I cannot do anymore because myheel is destroyed.
Is it like it can be sad anddepressed?
Yeah, for some time, but now Iwill.
I need to be able to.
I can walk again.
Yeah, I can walk.
Nobody is happy that they canwalk.
I'm happy that I can walk.
So it's like, don't, don't saythat challenges and setbacks and
(36:09):
problems should not be part ofyour life.
It is a part of your life andyou need to deal with it and
there's nothing wrong with you.
It's not like your parents orsomeone else take you to the
doctor.
I know you need to take somepills because you're a bit sad,
yeah, of course.
When you go broke with yourstartup and you don't have any
money, yeah, then you're sad.
Or you're anxious about whetheryou're sad, yeah, or you're
(36:31):
anxious about whether you canmeet payroll tomorrow.
That is just normal, but itdoesn't mean it's like, oh, we
need to get him to shrink, andtherapy and medicine, because
it's part of life.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
I mean, look at, take pharmaceuticals as an example.
Like you said, people get thesniffles and it's let's run to
the doctor.
Like they're just not.
Like you're supposed to getsick to your point, right, your
body's meant to get sick and getover it.
There's a lot of sicknessesthat you don't need medication
for.
There are some you doabsolutely, but, like a common
(37:04):
cold, you don't need to run to adoctor and be like I have the
sniffles, make these go away.
Like you, just, it's just partof life.
Like you're supposed to getsick.
People that are afraid to getsick.
Like what's going to happen isyou're going to get 70, 80 years
old and then a really simpledisease is going to kill you
because you didn't exposeyourself to it as an infant or
(37:26):
as a young adult or as an adult.
You just hid, hid from it.
Or, like you said, depression orgetting upset Like you're
supposed to get upset.
It's a part of life.
You don't need to run tosomebody else to feel better.
Like I still get upset.
I still have days I get superstressed.
Or you get super sad, like ithappens, but the difference is I
(37:47):
don't let it control my life.
I have an episode 24, 48 hours,whatever.
And it's like, okay, what am Idoing and what can I do to help
myself move on from this?
And there are sad things thathappen, but it's, how are you
going to react to it?
And you look I look fromlooking to myself as opposed to
looking on the outside, lookingfor the people and your body as
(38:10):
much as this phrase is overusedis a temple right and it's only
going to be able to help you for, as efficient as it is, the
same example as the immunesystem goes, the same example as
your physical health.
If you don't take care of yourphysical health and your body's
too busy fighting, like type 2diabetes or high blood pressure,
all these preventable diseases,and it's not running smooth,
(38:35):
like that's why depression andanxiety is going to be harder,
because your body's preoccupiedtrying to take care of the other
things going on, like treatyour body well, take care of
your health, and you're going tosee a huge difference.
I mean, the most underutilizedantidepressant that has beat out
every antidepressant on themarket, like any pill form and
(38:58):
has absolutely zero negativeside effects, is the thing
that's not used at all.
What is it working at?
That's it get you want to helpserotonin and dopamine releases.
Exercise.
There's no side effects besidesgood ones, right and there's no
pill you have to take andyou'll feel a lot better.
(39:20):
I mean, people don't even dothat, and that's way better than
every kind of SSRI out there,and no doctor is prescribing
exercise.
They're prescribing pills Likeno, you're 100 pounds overweight
.
Go start exercising.
Think about how much you'regoing to feel Like.
It's the one thing you shouldgo for first before hopping onto
(39:43):
anything like that.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
I would like.
I totally agree, anthony, and Iwould like to add add it is
body fitness and brain fitness,because the reason that I now
can walk reasonably well isbecause I was extremely fit and
doing all kinds of sports andexercise.
Otherwise by now I would havebeen in a wheelchair.
(40:07):
But the main thing was apsychologist who checked my
brain because it appeared thatthree years after my accident
and I still had a lot ofcomplaints and I said there's
something not right.
And finally over here in wainiathey found out I had a tbr yeah
, traumatic brain injury, whichcaused all those problems.
But that psychologist whotested me and said your brain is
(40:30):
totally messed up, but the waythat you're still alive and that
you're so clear and you're sowell operating is because you
have been working on brainfitness.
So she said a regular personwould have had my brain
situation that would be totallymessed up.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
But she said because you were working for the last 25
years on my brain fitness,that's how you survive you ever
want a good example of that, Ihighly recommend you either talk
to a nurse or a doctor, or yougo spend time at a hospital and
you go look at stroke units, oryou go look time at a hospital
and you go look at like strokeunits, or you go look at hospice
units.
(41:11):
And there's one thing you'regoing to notice above everything
else is the will to live andthe will to get better.
Nothing to do with how severethe stroke, how how sick you are
, how old you are.
It's all about willpower.
And let me give you someexamples.
It's when someone loses thewill to live at an elder age
(41:34):
from the sickness, they dieright away.
Some cases, like there's beenso many times my wife has told
me stories or I've seen myselfpeople say I'm done and they die
that night right.
Or you look at we see it withstroke patients like people, a
lot of family relatives andeveryone has stroke.
(41:54):
It's the ones that say I'mgonna get better and get over
this, get better and get over it.
It takes a lot of work, butthey do.
They start moving again.
They start walking again,things start disappearing, they
start living a relatively normallife.
The ones that say, no, I can'tget over this, end up staying in
(42:15):
the hospital, eventually, endup getting permanent issues from
it and then passing away,ultimately, from things.
So it's like willpower, which ismental health to your point,
and that's brain fitness 101 isthe thing that will keep you
going forward.
More than anything, it showshow crazy strong our willpower
is as individuals and it's allinside of us.
(42:37):
It's all here already saying,hey, I need to do better, I need
to be better, I can lift more,I can do this.
I mean crazy examples.
Go look online of parents right, the kid has something heavy
falling on them and all of asudden, the parent runs over and
is able to lift this crazyheavy object that they've never
been able to lift in their lifebecause their brain's like fuck,
(42:59):
I gotta get this off my kid.
And people have donespectacular things with
willpower, knowing I need to dothis, and it just hits them, the
adrenaline hits them and goforward.
It's absolutely insane and ifyou ever need to, if you're
going to say, I recommend youjust go see if you can get into
hospice units and just starttalking to people.
It will, it will blow your mind.
Some people, just okay, I'm done, or the other ones that want to
(43:21):
live longer and push through itand end up getting over these
things that are supposed to killthem.
But I, I totally couldn't agreemore.
It's something that needs to beworked on and checked out.
We went like way over, but it'sperfectly okay, because I love
this topic so much.
It's my favorite by far.
So, arnold, I'm just going tojust kind of start wrapping this
(43:41):
up, but I'm going to ask youtwo final questions.
The first one is going to be ifyou were to summarize this
episode in one or two sentences,what if you were?
Speaker 2 (43:51):
to summarize this episode in one or two sentences.
What would be your take onmessage to people?
Speaker 1 (43:57):
The main thing.
What I would like people totake away is to live their own
life.
I love that.
Yeah, I 100% couldn't agreemore.
And the second one, best one ofall for you how can people find
you get a hold of you?
Learn more about what you do.
Speaker 2 (44:09):
Go for it.
My website.
I would send them to my website.
It's braingymfitnessbraingymfitness.
And there I have my trainingprogram, which is a 15 week
program.
It's not 15 week in just onestretch now, it's each week a 90
minute session.
Then you do your homework, youlearn, you grow, whatever, and
(44:31):
then we have another session of90 minutes, total 15 weeks,
which is not crazy.
It might seem a lot, 15 weektraining program, but hey, it
took you 20, 25 years to becomethe same as everybody else.
So by only having a 15-weekprogram to make you well,
release your uniqueness again,that is not much of a stretch.
(44:54):
So I have a training program.
I have some master classeswhich are videos around specific
topics like what is youruniqueness, like dealing with
aging, what are your emotions,habits.
So they're around approximatelyan hour, an hour and a half
(45:17):
about the specific topic.
So those are the two productswhich you can find on Brain
GymFitness.
If you still have any questions, there's a link to my calendar
there so you can book a meetingand we can have a discussion.
Speaker 1 (45:35):
I absolutely love this.
I'm going to give you adifferent outro for everyone
here, which is share thisepisode to those that need to
hear this.
There we went through a lot ofdifferent types of topics,
things of how people, thingspeople need to hear and I think
the only way truly that wechange as a society is for more
people to think like Arnold andI do and a few of our listeners
here today.
So share this, blow this up,get the word out and if we can
(46:00):
get enough people to trulyunderstand that we need to help
our young people, because ouryoung people are the future bar
none.
Our young people because ouryoung people are the future bar
none.
So we need to show, like ourkids and then our kids' kids, if
you're grandparents, like,let's change the world, let's
change the world for the better,let's get through this mental
health epidemic, guys.
(46:21):
So please go ahead, share.
Let's grow this episode, let'sgrow this podcast.
Don't forget fitness ismedicine.
Until next time, outro.
(46:51):
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