June 30, 2025 • 37 mins
Troy Laing takes us deep into the world of cutting-edge biohacking, revealing how combining multiple therapeutic technologies creates powerful healing synergies. His signature "Super Healing Protocol" stacks Brain Tap, PMF therapy, LED light stimulation, and hyperbaric oxygen treatments to optimize cellular function and trigger remarkable healing responses.
What makes this conversation particularly compelling is Troy's transparent journey from addiction and trauma to wellness pioneer. He shares how weight training served as his anchor during years of substance abuse before a transformative moment in the Himalayas led him to explore float therapy, cold water immersion, breathwork, and meditation. This personal evolution informs his holistic approach to client care, where he examines everything from time spent in nature to social connections alongside technological interventions.
The discussion takes a powerful turn when Troy shares the story of Chrissy, a patient with rare bone lymphoma who was given weeks to live after failed chemotherapy treatments. After three months on Troy's protocol, medical tests showed disappearing lung nodules, healed fractures, and significantly slowed cancer growth, giving her years beyond her prognosis.
Host Joe Grumbine provides a perfect counterpoint through his therapeutic horticulture work, highlighting how disconnecting from technology and reconnecting with nature creates immediate physiological relief. Together, they explore how the constant stimulation of modern life impacts our healing capacity and how intentional practices can help us tap into our innate healing potential.
Whether you're facing a serious health challenge, seeking to optimize performance, or simply curious about the latest in wellness technology, this episode offers thought-provoking insights into how combining ancient wisdom with cutting-edge science might just be the future of healing. Connect with Troy at cultureoc.com to learn more about his innovative protocols.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Well, hello and welcome back to the Healthy
Living Podcast.
I'm your host, Joe Grumbine,and today we have a very special
guest.
His name is Troy Lang, and thisguy is a visionary biohacker
and a leader in humanperformance.
He's dedicated to empoweringindividuals to unlock their
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fullest potential.
He's got a career in fitnessspanning over two decades and,
Troy, you know it's a treat tohave you here.
I love biohacking, I'm abiohacker myself, and anything
that has to do with finding yourpeak performance, finding your
potential I'm all about.
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So welcome to the show.
How are you doing today?
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Yeah, very well, thanks, joe.
Thank you for having me on.
I really appreciate it.
After reading a bit about yourown journey and your story, I
felt we had a lot of things incommon in regards to biohacking
and looking for alternativetreatments, especially people
going through diagnosis withcancer and wanting to avoid
things like chemotherapy andsome of the heavier things that
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are out there in the medicalindustry.
And we actually currently dohave a couple of patients that
are either have been goingthrough chemotherapy or going
through these types ofchallenging health issues, and
we have a lot of differenttechnologies and how we combine
them.
We've seen great results withactually helping heal people and
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to slow the growth and reversethe effects of some of the
diagnoses that they've had.
So it's a pleasure to be hereand sort of connect what we do
in regards to your own journeyand the path you've been on with
your own story.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
I love that and, you know, some of the things you
said are very relevant.
There's not a simple answer tomost people's problems and,
whether it's cancer or diabetesor MS or obesity or addiction or
on and on, whatever the problemis, sometimes there's a root
cause in a single product ortreatment solution, but
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generally not.
And I think a lot of the answercomes from, you know, learning
and trying and getting out thereand putting things to the test
and discovering what works foryou, and that's really kind of
what biohacking is all about.
You know, as you said, I'vebeen through this crazy journey
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that's taken me all over theplace, from plant medicines to
frequency medicines to, you know, oxygen therapies to heat
therapy, everything, and in theend, I'm a new man.
I'm going to find out Monday ifI've gone all the way and
solved this or not, but I'm wellon my way and I suspect you've
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got a lot of good input as faras some of the things that you
know.
Frankly, I've explored a lot ofthings, but there's plenty of
things I haven't.
I'm always open to hearingabout new technology, new
discoveries, new developments.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Yeah, and I think kind of what you're touching on,
which is very important, is webuy hacking, we're hacking into
our biology and we all, we'reall uniquely different, so some
people respond better to certaintreatments than others and some
people don't have a not, not apositive response, but maybe not
as much as a influentialresponse to some treatments and
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and and for some treatments,they just take a certain amount
of time before the body is ableto absorb that energy and
convert that into a healingprocess.
So, like you said, you've beenon this journey where you've
been exploring so many differenttreatments, and one of the
things we do, like some of thetreatments we have here, which
you touched on, pmf, which isfrequency treatments.
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We have LED light stimulation,so infrared and red light
therapy.
And another thing, youmentioned oxygen.
So we have a hyperbaric oxygenchamber and what what I've found
is, um, with my, my recoverycenter, we're we're using them
in combined synergistic effects.
So, um, have you ever heard of abrain tap?
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It's a audio, yep.
So our super healing protocolincorporates basically four of
the modalities that we stacktogether.
We start our, our patients onthe brain tap and the pmf at the
same time.
So, uh, for, for viewersunfamiliar with what brain tap
is, brain tap is a headset uhdevice that uses light and audio
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frequency.
With design uh meditations,audio meditations and the
clinical studies and sciencebehind is, we're shifting your
brainwave activity into more ofa delta or theta, which is your
parasympathetic state, which isour recovery state.
Now, why we do that as theprecursor to other treatments on
our super healing protocol isbecause our brain is what's
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sending and receiving signalsfor healing the body, and if
you're in an overstressedpsychological state, your, your
brain, is less adept tomaximizing the benefits of the
next treatment or therapiesyou're going to go on to.
On the pmf, we're increasingblood flow and circulation
microcirculation uh, our mat hasinfrared technology in it as
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well, so we're reducinginflammation.
And then that's setting us upto move on to our, our light
stim led bed.
So we have, uh, the led bedthat has two different
wavelengths of red light, twodifferent wavelengths of
infrared light, and you'llyou'll see a common theme that
majority of the applications andtherapies we're using are doing
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similar things, using differentways of different wavelengths
or different ways of energizingthe cell to get a different
response.
So, once again, when we getonto the red light bread.
We're increasing blood flow andcirculation, reducing
information, but then we'reincreasing the amount of ATP or
cellular energy your cells canproduce, as well as getting
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better communication betweenthose cells, as we are made up
of trillions of cells.
How those cells communicate andhow much energy they can
produce from their mitochondriadetermines how we function on a
cellular level.
With that bed, it's been shownto release trapped nitric oxide
from the cell, which allows moreoxygen into the cell receptor.
And from the bed we go into ourhyperbaric oxygen chamber where
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we're then saturating the bloodplasma and the body with 95% to
100% oxygen under pressure,where we're forcing that
oxygen-rich blood plasma intothe tissue and with regular use
we're getting the creation ofnew vascular pathways, so new
circulation to areas that areinflamed, reducing inflammation
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also increasing ACP and withregular use you're getting more
increased stem cell productionfrom the bone marrow.
So when we use it as a combinedprotocol, we're seeing
significant results from peoplewith nodules on their lungs that
are completely clearing up,increasing positive optimal
levels of blood work for peoplegoing through cancer and
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chemotherapy and radiationtreatments what I've found here.
Unfortunately, we live in acountry where it's very geared
towards lining the pockets ofthe big pharma people.
And so you mentioned somethingabout root cause.
Unfortunately, we live in aspace where doctors aren't
hyper-focused on looking at theroot cause.
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They want to put a Band-Aid ona gaping wound.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Yeah, completely symptomatic.
We're going to cover up yoursymptom and then we're gonna put
you on an endless loop of onething needs another thing, needs
another thing.
You never take one drug.
It's always a cocktail.
Yeah, it's not the health caresystem.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
It's a sick care system.
Yeah so uh.
And then we start incorporatingthings like we are biohackers.
So I've incorporated thingslike methylene blue, which is
helping boost the effects of redlight, helps offset the
oxidative stress that is ishappening in the in the chamber
and then for for each client,it's really their, their, their
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bio feedback in regards towhat's happening for them is the
best markers that we have,because they're giving me the
best, best feedback on playingaround with different pressures,
playing around with the amountof time they're exposed to
certain energies and certaintreatments on the bed, and we
work with everything.
So I mean cancer is one thing.
I work with people coming inwith chronic fatigue, different
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chronic health issues.
I work a lot with TBI andconcussion injuries.
So we're just modifying ourprotocols to match that person's
biological response toreceiving all these different
forms of energy.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
So how long have you been operating this center?
So this month June.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
This year was two years since we first opened the
doors to how we operate now.
So two years this month it'sbeen.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
And when you began, did you offer all of these
services or did you just havesome of them?
How did that work out?
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Yeah, no, we built out this facility and had
everything operational and readyto offer when we first opened
the doors.
So we hit the ground runningonce we opened and had
everything.
So, outside of that what youknow we're talking about more
serious health issues.
But we are a longevity andperformance recovery center as
well.
So we work with high levelathletes and just the general um
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community who are moreinterested in one having more
control over their health, beingmore aware of it, and
interested in differentprotocols, different therapies
for better life longevity aswell.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
I think that's an important point.
You know, a lot of times peopledon't even take any notice of
their health until somethinggoes wrong.
And other people, you know,spend their lifetime trying to
be fit and healthy and I thinkthat you know spend their
lifetime trying to be fit andhealthy.
And I think that you know itcomes down to choices.
Like every day, you can decideto be a little better or not
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care.
And if you decide to be alittle better, well then you're
going to do something, you'regoing to take some set of
choices, and I think that it'simportant that you know.
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I operate a garden facilitywhere we offer what we call
therapeutic horticulture and Ibelieve that in our gardens
people can find any sort ofhealing if they put their mind
to it.
Somebody wants a good workout?
I can give you a good workout.
Somebody wants to meditate?
We can meditate.
But the point is just like whatyou're saying if you got a
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serious problem that you need tofocus on whether it's a cancer,
an injury, any sort of adisease or stress or trauma then
you've got sort of a veryfocused attention and maybe a
protocol.
But maybe you just want to bebetter, maybe you just want to
improve your stamina, maybe youwant to improve your performance
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and strength, or whatever.
I think these sorts oftherapies and tools can help
just about anybody, if you putyour mind to it.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Yeah, well, one reason why I was excited to be
on here is because of yourecotherapy.
Whilst I have a brick andmortar business that's using
technologies, our hyper focus ison education of a well-rounded
lifestyle.
So when we're doing an intakeand profiling someone, we're
looking at everything.
How much time do you spend innature, because it's a very
important part of energy and howyou feel?
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Do you read books?
What type of material are youconsuming?
What is your social experiencelike?
The time we spend with peoplecan either be positively
charging us or negativelydraining, draining us.
So, yeah, all these things arevery important, which I love.
The eco therapy, uh, what youguys are doing, because I think
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one thing I noticed is I livehere in newport beach.
I don't know why the businessis.
I live in costa mesa and it's apretty beautiful spot, but it's
100 mile an hour.
There's always noise around youand what I?
What I found, uh, two recenttrips over the last two years
was one I went just out to thedesert, middle of nowhere, just
to get away for a weekend and aweekend up in Lake Arrowhead and
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instantly being in these placeswhere there's not any noise
around besides nature and thebirds singing.
Your body instantly justreleases all this tension and
like stress that you just carryin day-to-day life.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Well, and the thing is, I would love you're only in
Costa Mesa, you're an hour away.
I'd love to have you come andvisit the gardens and you can
see for yourself that.
It only takes 10 minutes.
You can just sit down on a logand sit under a tree in a cool
spot and just shut your mouthfor a minute and listen to the
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birds fly by and hear the hawksoverhead or the rustling through
the trees, and almost instantly, you feel your body starts to
release that tension and stressthat you know you go in city and
your, your body puts up ashield, yeah, as it's being
bombarded with with vibrations,frequencies, energies, words,
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sounds, all of these things thatyou're literally, you know
energetically, you're going likethis to try to protect yourself
from it.
And then, when you get to aplace that's quiet and, um,
where you know that you feelsafe and you don't feel like
something's going to come outand and maybe assault you, you
know, um, it's a whole differentthing and and as you begin to
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relax and let go, um, there's ahealing.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
That happens almost instantly, yeah, yeah, and and
when, you're, I don't think,when you're in this environment
and you don't get away from it,you don't really understand how
that feels until you putyourself in in that space and
you're like oh, this is this ishow it feels like to just let go
and and relax and my body canlet go of all the tension
absolutely absolutely and that'skind of the, the tools that you
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have, the hyperbaric somepeople.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
It's a little rough For me.
It popped my ears pretty bad.
It was a little difficult toget used to.
But when you're in it and youget acclimated, it's a very
peaceful, serene kind of a place.
You're in your own littlebubble so you can let go In the
infrared space.
It's the same thing.
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I've got an infrared sauna thatI use.
Sometimes I do a steam saunaand and.
But being in that place you can, you're kind of in your own
space so you're not againthinking about what's going on
outside.
It's generally quiet or there'sa white sound that you can, you
know, deal with, so you're notbeing bombarded.
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You can, even in thatenvironment you can sort of let
yourself, let yourself go tothat place.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Yeah, we're very intentional with everything that
we do here.
We use a lot of great qualitytechnology and equipment, but
our facility is more of a spatype, relaxing, earthy tones,
not like you feel like you'rewalking into a medical facility.
So a lot of our clients, evenfrom the moment they walk into
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the front door, they instantlyjust feel this sense of
relaxation.
Things like the chamber in eachroom we're generally playing
healing frequencies and tonesthat are really relaxing and
just allowing people todisconnect and and not be so.
I always well one thing.
So one of the other therapieswe have is a cold plunge.
I'm a big cold plungeenthusiast, um, I've been doing
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it for quite a long time, but Iteach breath work.
So I teach breath workpractices outside of cold
plunging.
I teach people how to have moreemotional fight or flight
control in any environment, butusing a cold plunge where it's,
where it's present in the momentwhen you're trying to.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
You're going to deal with that one minute or one way
or another, for sure yeah, butthat's why, for me, cold
plunging really and breathworkchanged my life.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
It was a huge defining point in my life.
When I was in australia, I meta community that every morning
would meet for cold water dipsat the beach, no matter what
time of the year it was, andthey were very heavily involved
in doing breathwork practicesand having the deepest spiritual
connection to breath and usingit to control your emotional
response and stress to yourenvironments in general.
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So now I teach that practiceand teach people how to cold
plunge, utilizing breath work tocontrol your response to the
environment.
And then, from a spiritual sortof deeper breath work point of
view, we actually do eventsevery month or two months where
we do a big breathworkmeditation, sound healing events
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.
So they're there where, yeah,these are events where people
have that transcendental typebreathwork experience, that
out-of-body type experience.
But even in those ceremoniesI've had, people have come in
with injuries and after an hourof deep, uh, collective,
transcendental breathwork, they,they, the injuries and and n
hour of deep, collective,transcendental breath work, the
injuries and niggles and painsthey've had are completely gone
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and a lot of it is becauseyou're just allowing your
nervous system to let go andrelax.
Once you have an injury of somesort, your body's trying to
compensate, to protect yourself.
So you start getting real stiffand jacked up and when you go
into that, that breath work,your body goes into that full
release of allowing yourself torelax yeah, people don't realize
.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
I think that an injury is kind of
self-sustaining.
You get into a cycle of of um,tension and um, where you get
almost the inflammation comesand then you get spasms and it
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causes each other to keepgetting worse.
Yeah, you get tension, it'll,it'll trigger a spasm which
causes inflammation, whichcontinues the tension, and it
just keeps cycling and you don't, unless you're able to relax
and break that cycle.
And you know, people do it withdrugs and they do it with
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alcohol and they do it withcertain things that have their
own negative responses.
It's really hard for your bodyto be able to get in there and
provide what it takes to restoreall that.
And, like you said, you getyour breath work, so you're
raising the oxygen level in yourblood, you're getting your
cells to communicate at a peaklevel, it gets your immune
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system dialed into what it'sdesigned to do and you know you
can repair yourself like youwould in a good deep sleep.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Yeah're just sitting there in a in a sound bath,
meditative state yeah, yeah, andit's um, it's interesting
because, even like with you know, meditation and sound healing,
like they say, if you like, thebrain tap we have a lot of
people have a great experience.
It's, it's 20 minutes of timewhere you get taken into that
deep delta or theta state, andthey say that 20 minutes of deep
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meditation is the theequivalent of a good four hours
of deep sleep.
So, um, it's, it's a recharge20 minutes out of your day,
especially if you're carrying alot of stress, and even not just
mental stress but physicalstress.
When you go into that deep, uh,delta, theta state, your body
goes into full, deep relaxationand people, people feel, feel
the significant difference.
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A lot of the time I have tokindly wake people up out of
their meditative state and theyalmost come back from not being
present in the space, like wherehave I been, type thing.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
That's amazing.
I've experienced that in anumber of different ways and
sometimes involving plantmedicine, sometimes just in
meditation and recently, youknow, with my experience, I came
close to death not that longago and I learned about putting
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all of your energy to one thingand the power that can come from
that.
And it's very seldom that yourlife presents something where
you have to give it all of yourattention.
You know, and it's meditationkind of you, kind of do that if
you're able.
I've always struggled with that,you know, and you know my brain
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just couldn't hardly get it toquiet down, but with this
challenge that was so profound Ihad to, and so when that
happened, I discovered that youcan go to a place where you can
operate, in my opinion, on aquantum level and you can move
things around and you can directenergies and things like that.
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And I had never experienced it,had I not been able to do that.
So when people are able to, youknow, do a thing like breath
work and and and the meditationwith the sound bath, and if
they're able to do it wellenough, you can overcome just
about anything.
I, I, I came to a place ofrealization that literally
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there's nothing you can't fix inthat space, if you can get to
it.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Yeah, yeah, and you're totally right.
The hardest thing is getting toit and for some people it's
very challenging.
I did spend a lot of time doinga lot of Joe Dispenza's
meditative practices and breathwork.
Meditative practices and breathwork and you know, I mean he
has a really great documentarythat he released late last year
around all cause.
He's been collecting data forover 20 years just around
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meditation and breath in regardsto the shifts and changes in
the body for people healing andworking with all kinds of trauma
and challenging things.
So, like what you're sharing,our brain is the most powerful
thing on the planet.
We just have to be able to tapin and understand how to use it
to its maximum ability to getwhat we want out of it.
And sometimes, day to day nowwe have like we're just
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overstimulated.
Everyone's carrying one ofthese phones around.
It's constant clickbait, it'syou know.
Being able to quieten your mindis one of the most challenging
things, because everything isjust so in your face right now.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Well, that's why getting out in nature can be so
amazing, like I just got backfrom a few days up in the
Sierras.
And you know, you go to a placewhere there's no signal and you
don't care.
Yeah, you turn on your phonebecause it's a camera.
You catch some pictures, butother than that there's no,
nobody to talk to and nobody tohear you.
And you just get out there andin nature and experience it and
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feel the sun on your face andthe wind and breathe the clean
air and listen to the eaglesflying by.
And you know, you, I've learnedthat you can disconnect pretty
quickly.
When you don't have the option,it's like, oh cool, I don't
need that.
Cool, I don't need that, Idon't want that, you know.
But when it's there and everpresent and nagging at you you
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know everybody's got some littledinger turned on it's like ding
, ding, ding ding yeah yeah, hey, look at me, hey, look at me.
And it's constantly stimulating,you know your little dopamine
receptors going.
Oh, there's something here forme, a little treat, little treat
, little treat, yeah, yeah anduh.
You know it's just like doing aline of cocaine.
It's just, you know theselittle, these little or sugar or
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some little, you know some drug.
It's just like each time thesethings happen, you get yourself
geared to oh, something'shappening, it's going to be.
You know, I'm going to get alittle pat on the head or
whatever.
And I think it's really causeda lot of harm to society In the
last 15 years.
You know, I grew up and therewasn't any of this.
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You know I there was no cellphones, there was no video games
, there was no computers.
And the life that I spent as akid, you know, we went out and
played, we rode bikes, weexplored, we had friendships.
You know somebody called you,picked up the phone and talked
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to them, you know, and it was awhole different world than we
have today and, frankly, I thinkit was a better one.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
I agree.
I mean I'm 42.
So I grew up in the 80s on thecusp of like, before technology
took off too much.
So when I was a kid there wasno mobile phones.
We still rang the house phone.
If no one answered, we rode ourbike over there to see if they
were home.
You know what I mean.
And we live by when thestreetlights are on.
That's when you come home typesituation and I mess situation.
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And I messaged a good friendback in australia only a week
ago and he lives on a beautifulproperty.
He's got, uh like he's gotseven kids.
They have a like out in themiddle of nowhere, straight
running through it and theystill live like simple, like uh,
natural you know life, wherethey're still out doing stuff.
They've got animals and thingsand, like I, I feel like yes,
there's certain aspects oftechnology that's evolved us and
has a positive effect, but somuch of it has had a huge
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negative effect from apsychological point of view, for
sure.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
I think there's valuable tools and computers and
the access of information.
We've developed our technologyand our understanding of things
exponentially from what it waswhen I started studying herbs.
I was going to use bookstoresand reading books, and now I can
look up anything anywhere andidentify anything and get a
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published study, and my learningcurve is dramatically faster
than it was.
Yeah, but when you take thesetools and turn them into a
crutch or, more worse, a drug,then it turns sideways on you.
Speaking of that, I I alwayslike to understand.
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You know where somebody comesfrom, like my journey.
I have a story.
What brought me to this?
And and uh, you know I had todo with my health issues and my
experience with Western medicine.
What got you to be interestedin this biohacking and
performance?
Speaker 2 (26:08):
So mine comes from more of a background of
addiction and substance abuseand sort of working through
challenges with childhood trauma, sort of working through
challenges with childhood trauma.
We all have a story and nodoubt the majority of us have
this challenging life story thatyou know constructs our
subconscious as we grow intoadults that we need to sort of
unpack and unfold.
So I grew up in a very domesticenvironment that was fueled by
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alcohol and domestic verbalviolence.
Environment that was fueled byalcohol and domestic verbal, uh
verbal violence, um, and at ayoung age I started drinking.
Uh 15 years old I starteddrinking pretty regularly.
That led into marijuana, uh.
That just led into harderrecreational drugs such as uh
speed, ecstasy, cocaine,methamphetamine.
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Um, I would say that I was avery high functioning person
whilst using, so I never putmyself in a situation where I
wasn't taking care of myselffrom a financial point of view.
I actually worked in the miningindustry in Australia for a big
portion of my life in my 20s,but my external recreational
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habits were leading to somepretty serious mental health
issues and my I feel that partof my change was just evolution
of me being a man, and I feellike men evolve through certain
age ranges where things justshift and go.
Okay, if I don't make anychanges now, like I'm either
gonna be killing myself notintentionally, but like with the
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life I'm living or I'm notgonna have the future that I
want, like a wife of kids andthings like that.
Um, so I was around 31.
I was actually in the Himalayanuh mountains, trekking through
the Himalayas on a trek, and Ihad this sort of eye-opening
epiphany of like this is it likeif I don't change now, my life
is going to not turn out where Iwant it to go.
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And I was, honestly, I had onon the outlook of like social
media and what I was doing.
It looked like I had a greatlife, but I was really depressed
and lonely because I was single.
I couldn't hold down arelationship.
I was a wild sort of person inregards to my, my, my habits
when I comes biohacking.
From the age of 15, I walkedinto a gym and I was fascinated
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with weight training.
So weight training became my atool that I use through
alcoholism, addiction andsubstance abuse.
Throughout these periods oftime when I was having struggles
with mental health andsubstance abuse, I never lost
touch of that physical feelingof being in a gym and using
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weight training to escape theoutside world.
But when I decided that Iwanted to make these changes, I
started diving deep intochildhood psychology, early
brain development.
I wanted to understand, like,why I made the decisions I did,
why I would choose substance andalcohol and things to help with
my feelings or emotions, andthen that led me down into
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biohacking.
I got into detoxing throughsauna and steam rooms.
I actually found a float center, like the flotation therapy,
and through that I was workingwith a lady that was helping me
unpack some of my childhoodstuff.
And with float therapy I hadthese huge breakthroughs
emotionally with what I wastrying to let go of and what I
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was trying to unpacksubconsciously.
That was making me makedecisions or constructing my
subconscious the way it was.
That was sabotaging, um, who,who I wanted to be that and and
it's funny because when you'resynergistically ready to open
yourself up to see thesedifferent things, then different
things get put into your, your,your wheelhouse of of other
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things that you can explore.
So through the community thatran the float center, I found
this community that met everymorning and did cold water
therapy, cold plunges, and thatled me into breath work, that
led me into meditation, and itjust kept evolving.
Then I just became, you know,over the last 10 years became
extremely fascinated in biology.
Um, how to, you know,manipulate or or or basically
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take control of your biologicalresponse through external
influence, whether it besupplementation, peptides, light
therapy?
And it just kept evolving.
And I was really good at whatI'd done on my own personal
journey and my big dream was toopen up a gym with a wellness
and recovery center in it.
And then, two years ago, wejust had this opportunity, with
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a suite that was the perfectsize, to bring the wellness
center and recovery centertogether in one space.
And that's where it took offfrom and that's where I started
to really specialize in puttingall my knowledge and my own
personal journey together withall these different treatments,
to then help people that weremanaging everything from chronic
health issues to cancer, tojust longevity protocols or
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athletic performance stuff.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
I love it.
It sounds like you were veryfortunate.
It seemed like you always keptat least one foot or a toe at
least.
In reality.
A lot of people let themselvesjust go and they go down the
hole, but it seems like youalways had at least an anchor
that was aware of your realexistence.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
So that's yeah, yeah that that that was physical
exercise.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Without that, I don't know if I'd still be agreed, so
we're getting low on time, butI always like to hear um in a
situation like yours there's intwo years you've probably ran
into a lot of clients.
There's probably at least onethat stands out as a remarkable
story of recovery ortransformation.
Why don't you share one ofthose stories with us?
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Yeah well, so we she's become a really we're very
community based.
Everyone that comes in herebecomes part of the culture
community and we're part of ourfamily.
So Chrissy uh has, and shequite happily lets me share her
story.
So names and things are totally, totally fine.
Um, chrissy came to us.
She has a rare form of lymphomalymphoma bone cancer in her hip
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.
Um, she had been throughmultiple stages of chemotherapy
trying to slow the cancer'sgrowth and her body was not
responding to the treatments andshe was given anywhere from a
week to a month you might livesix months sort of diagnosis.
And she found us organicallythrough friends of ours and came
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in and basically she'd beengiven a death sentence.
So she was open to tryinganything.
Um, she came to us and stoppeddoing chemotherapy and I put I,
I laid everything out for her ofwhat I know our technology and
therapies can do to regenerateher body and she spent three
months with us without doing anychemo drugs or anything um,
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anything from the westernmedical world.
And what was surprising waswhen she came to me, her
oncologist at the time told herto not do hyperbaric oxygen
treatments, which, if youunderstand the science behind
what is happening with cancercells and how powerful oxygen is
and that's correct.
That's what I mean.
There's so so much distortedinformation, even with
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professionals that they don'treally understand what they're
talking about.
And I laid it out for her.
I said if you come and do thesetreatments three or four times
a week, I'm promising you and Itell people.
I'm not here to make promises,I can't make guarantees, but I
believe in what we do, sp whatwe do.
Spend three to four days a weekwith me doing my super healing
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protocol and give me that timeand see how your body responds.
She did that and then she gottransferred to all the lead
doctors at ucla.
She went and did all her bloodwork.
Everything came back and theywere like we don't understand
what's going on, like all thenodules on your lungs are
completely disappeared, yourlungs are back to 100, the
fracture that was in your hip isfully healed, the cancer has
slowed, it's no longeraggressive and growing and we've
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given her a whole nother yearof life just since she's been
with us a year now.
So that story to me, is whatit's all about.
That's where the magic is.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Agree, I totally agree, and I think that's
fantastic.
Well, this is about the timewe've got, so I'd like to give
you a chance to give your littleelevator pitch and let people
know how to get ahold of you.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Yeah, so like cultureoccom is our website.
All that information you canbook online, you can find us,
you can reach out to us.
Cultureoc underscore is ourInstagram.
We do a lot of educationalstuff on there so you can find
our information, connect with usthere.
Um, all our details are on thewebsite.
And then I do have a youtubechannel where I try to do some
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little you know, podcasts andeducational information, which
is just culture oc.
You'll find that on youtube aswell, um, but I would also like
to take you up on your offer andcome out and see your
ecotherapy and spend a bit oftime in the peace and quiet with
you out there.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
I would love that Absolutely.
Well, it's been an absolutepleasure, and I suspect we'll
probably have more to talk aboutone day soon, and I'd love to
have you back on and go deeperinto some of these things.
So thank you so much forjoining me today.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
All right.
Thank you, joe, and Iappreciate what you're doing in
the community Like this is veryimportant.
Sharing your story, bringingpeople together, and I wish you
all the best on your continuedwellness and health journey.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
Thank, you so much.
This has been another episodeof the Healthy Living Podcast.
I'm your host, Joe Grumbine.
I thank you for your
Well, hello and welcome back to the Healthy
Living Podcast.
I'm your host, Joe Grumbine,and today we have a very special
guest.
His name is Troy Lang, and thisguy is a visionary biohacker
and a leader in humanperformance.
He's dedicated to empoweringindividuals to unlock their
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fullest potential.
He's got a career in fitnessspanning over two decades and,
Troy, you know it's a treat tohave you here.
I love biohacking, I'm abiohacker myself, and anything
that has to do with finding yourpeak performance, finding your
potential I'm all about.
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So welcome to the show.
How are you doing today?
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Yeah, very well, thanks, joe.
Thank you for having me on.
I really appreciate it.
After reading a bit about yourown journey and your story, I
felt we had a lot of things incommon in regards to biohacking
and looking for alternativetreatments, especially people
going through diagnosis withcancer and wanting to avoid
things like chemotherapy andsome of the heavier things that
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are out there in the medicalindustry.
And we actually currently dohave a couple of patients that
are either have been goingthrough chemotherapy or going
through these types ofchallenging health issues, and
we have a lot of differenttechnologies and how we combine
them.
We've seen great results withactually helping heal people and
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to slow the growth and reversethe effects of some of the
diagnoses that they've had.
So it's a pleasure to be hereand sort of connect what we do
in regards to your own journeyand the path you've been on with
your own story.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
I love that and, you know, some of the things you
said are very relevant.
There's not a simple answer tomost people's problems and,
whether it's cancer or diabetesor MS or obesity or addiction or
on and on, whatever the problemis, sometimes there's a root
cause in a single product ortreatment solution, but
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generally not.
And I think a lot of the answercomes from, you know, learning
and trying and getting out thereand putting things to the test
and discovering what works foryou, and that's really kind of
what biohacking is all about.
You know, as you said, I'vebeen through this crazy journey
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that's taken me all over theplace, from plant medicines to
frequency medicines to, you know, oxygen therapies to heat
therapy, everything, and in theend, I'm a new man.
I'm going to find out Monday ifI've gone all the way and
solved this or not, but I'm wellon my way and I suspect you've
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got a lot of good input as faras some of the things that you
know.
Frankly, I've explored a lot ofthings, but there's plenty of
things I haven't.
I'm always open to hearingabout new technology, new
discoveries, new developments.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Yeah, and I think kind of what you're touching on,
which is very important, is webuy hacking, we're hacking into
our biology and we all, we'reall uniquely different, so some
people respond better to certaintreatments than others and some
people don't have a not, not apositive response, but maybe not
as much as a influentialresponse to some treatments and
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and and for some treatments,they just take a certain amount
of time before the body is ableto absorb that energy and
convert that into a healingprocess.
So, like you said, you've beenon this journey where you've
been exploring so many differenttreatments, and one of the
things we do, like some of thetreatments we have here, which
you touched on, pmf, which isfrequency treatments.
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We have LED light stimulation,so infrared and red light
therapy.
And another thing, youmentioned oxygen.
So we have a hyperbaric oxygenchamber and what what I've found
is, um, with my, my recoverycenter, we're we're using them
in combined synergistic effects.
So, um, have you ever heard of abrain tap?
(04:24):
It's a audio, yep.
So our super healing protocolincorporates basically four of
the modalities that we stacktogether.
We start our, our patients onthe brain tap and the pmf at the
same time.
So, uh, for, for viewersunfamiliar with what brain tap
is, brain tap is a headset uhdevice that uses light and audio
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frequency.
With design uh meditations,audio meditations and the
clinical studies and sciencebehind is, we're shifting your
brainwave activity into more ofa delta or theta, which is your
parasympathetic state, which isour recovery state.
Now, why we do that as theprecursor to other treatments on
our super healing protocol isbecause our brain is what's
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sending and receiving signalsfor healing the body, and if
you're in an overstressedpsychological state, your, your
brain, is less adept tomaximizing the benefits of the
next treatment or therapiesyou're going to go on to.
On the pmf, we're increasingblood flow and circulation
microcirculation uh, our mat hasinfrared technology in it as
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well, so we're reducinginflammation.
And then that's setting us upto move on to our, our light
stim led bed.
So we have, uh, the led bedthat has two different
wavelengths of red light, twodifferent wavelengths of
infrared light, and you'llyou'll see a common theme that
majority of the applications andtherapies we're using are doing
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similar things, using differentways of different wavelengths
or different ways of energizingthe cell to get a different
response.
So, once again, when we getonto the red light bread.
We're increasing blood flow andcirculation, reducing
information, but then we'reincreasing the amount of ATP or
cellular energy your cells canproduce, as well as getting
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better communication betweenthose cells, as we are made up
of trillions of cells.
How those cells communicate andhow much energy they can
produce from their mitochondriadetermines how we function on a
cellular level.
With that bed, it's been shownto release trapped nitric oxide
from the cell, which allows moreoxygen into the cell receptor.
And from the bed we go into ourhyperbaric oxygen chamber where
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we're then saturating the bloodplasma and the body with 95% to
100% oxygen under pressure,where we're forcing that
oxygen-rich blood plasma intothe tissue and with regular use
we're getting the creation ofnew vascular pathways, so new
circulation to areas that areinflamed, reducing inflammation
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also increasing ACP and withregular use you're getting more
increased stem cell productionfrom the bone marrow.
So when we use it as a combinedprotocol, we're seeing
significant results from peoplewith nodules on their lungs that
are completely clearing up,increasing positive optimal
levels of blood work for peoplegoing through cancer and
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chemotherapy and radiationtreatments what I've found here.
Unfortunately, we live in acountry where it's very geared
towards lining the pockets ofthe big pharma people.
And so you mentioned somethingabout root cause.
Unfortunately, we live in aspace where doctors aren't
hyper-focused on looking at theroot cause.
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They want to put a Band-Aid ona gaping wound.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Yeah, completely symptomatic.
We're going to cover up yoursymptom and then we're gonna put
you on an endless loop of onething needs another thing, needs
another thing.
You never take one drug.
It's always a cocktail.
Yeah, it's not the health caresystem.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
It's a sick care system.
Yeah so uh.
And then we start incorporatingthings like we are biohackers.
So I've incorporated thingslike methylene blue, which is
helping boost the effects of redlight, helps offset the
oxidative stress that is ishappening in the in the chamber
and then for for each client,it's really their, their, their
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bio feedback in regards towhat's happening for them is the
best markers that we have,because they're giving me the
best, best feedback on playingaround with different pressures,
playing around with the amountof time they're exposed to
certain energies and certaintreatments on the bed, and we
work with everything.
So I mean cancer is one thing.
I work with people coming inwith chronic fatigue, different
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chronic health issues.
I work a lot with TBI andconcussion injuries.
So we're just modifying ourprotocols to match that person's
biological response toreceiving all these different
forms of energy.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
So how long have you been operating this center?
So this month June.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
This year was two years since we first opened the
doors to how we operate now.
So two years this month it'sbeen.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
And when you began, did you offer all of these
services or did you just havesome of them?
How did that work out?
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Yeah, no, we built out this facility and had
everything operational and readyto offer when we first opened
the doors.
So we hit the ground runningonce we opened and had
everything.
So, outside of that what youknow we're talking about more
serious health issues.
But we are a longevity andperformance recovery center as
well.
So we work with high levelathletes and just the general um
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community who are moreinterested in one having more
control over their health, beingmore aware of it, and
interested in differentprotocols, different therapies
for better life longevity aswell.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
I think that's an important point.
You know, a lot of times peopledon't even take any notice of
their health until somethinggoes wrong.
And other people, you know,spend their lifetime trying to
be fit and healthy and I thinkthat you know spend their
lifetime trying to be fit andhealthy.
And I think that you know itcomes down to choices.
Like every day, you can decideto be a little better or not
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care.
And if you decide to be alittle better, well then you're
going to do something, you'regoing to take some set of
choices, and I think that it'simportant that you know.
(10:33):
I operate a garden facilitywhere we offer what we call
therapeutic horticulture and Ibelieve that in our gardens
people can find any sort ofhealing if they put their mind
to it.
Somebody wants a good workout?
I can give you a good workout.
Somebody wants to meditate?
We can meditate.
But the point is just like whatyou're saying if you got a
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serious problem that you need tofocus on whether it's a cancer,
an injury, any sort of adisease or stress or trauma then
you've got sort of a veryfocused attention and maybe a
protocol.
But maybe you just want to bebetter, maybe you just want to
improve your stamina, maybe youwant to improve your performance
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and strength, or whatever.
I think these sorts oftherapies and tools can help
just about anybody, if you putyour mind to it.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Yeah, well, one reason why I was excited to be
on here is because of yourecotherapy.
Whilst I have a brick andmortar business that's using
technologies, our hyper focus ison education of a well-rounded
lifestyle.
So when we're doing an intakeand profiling someone, we're
looking at everything.
How much time do you spend innature, because it's a very
important part of energy and howyou feel?
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Do you read books?
What type of material are youconsuming?
What is your social experiencelike?
The time we spend with peoplecan either be positively
charging us or negativelydraining, draining us.
So, yeah, all these things arevery important, which I love.
The eco therapy, uh, what youguys are doing, because I think
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one thing I noticed is I livehere in newport beach.
I don't know why the businessis.
I live in costa mesa and it's apretty beautiful spot, but it's
100 mile an hour.
There's always noise around youand what I?
What I found, uh, two recenttrips over the last two years
was one I went just out to thedesert, middle of nowhere, just
to get away for a weekend and aweekend up in Lake Arrowhead and
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instantly being in these placeswhere there's not any noise
around besides nature and thebirds singing.
Your body instantly justreleases all this tension and
like stress that you just carryin day-to-day life.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Well, and the thing is, I would love you're only in
Costa Mesa, you're an hour away.
I'd love to have you come andvisit the gardens and you can
see for yourself that.
It only takes 10 minutes.
You can just sit down on a logand sit under a tree in a cool
spot and just shut your mouthfor a minute and listen to the
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birds fly by and hear the hawksoverhead or the rustling through
the trees, and almost instantly, you feel your body starts to
release that tension and stressthat you know you go in city and
your, your body puts up ashield, yeah, as it's being
bombarded with with vibrations,frequencies, energies, words,
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sounds, all of these things thatyou're literally, you know
energetically, you're going likethis to try to protect yourself
from it.
And then, when you get to aplace that's quiet and, um,
where you know that you feelsafe and you don't feel like
something's going to come outand and maybe assault you, you
know, um, it's a whole differentthing and and as you begin to
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relax and let go, um, there's ahealing.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
That happens almost instantly, yeah, yeah, and and
when, you're, I don't think,when you're in this environment
and you don't get away from it,you don't really understand how
that feels until you putyourself in in that space and
you're like oh, this is this ishow it feels like to just let go
and and relax and my body canlet go of all the tension
absolutely absolutely and that'skind of the, the tools that you
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have, the hyperbaric somepeople.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
It's a little rough For me.
It popped my ears pretty bad.
It was a little difficult toget used to.
But when you're in it and youget acclimated, it's a very
peaceful, serene kind of a place.
You're in your own littlebubble so you can let go In the
infrared space.
It's the same thing.
(14:43):
I've got an infrared sauna thatI use.
Sometimes I do a steam saunaand and.
But being in that place you can, you're kind of in your own
space so you're not againthinking about what's going on
outside.
It's generally quiet or there'sa white sound that you can, you
know, deal with, so you're notbeing bombarded.
(15:04):
You can, even in thatenvironment you can sort of let
yourself, let yourself go tothat place.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
Yeah, we're very intentional with everything that
we do here.
We use a lot of great qualitytechnology and equipment, but
our facility is more of a spatype, relaxing, earthy tones,
not like you feel like you'rewalking into a medical facility.
So a lot of our clients, evenfrom the moment they walk into
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the front door, they instantlyjust feel this sense of
relaxation.
Things like the chamber in eachroom we're generally playing
healing frequencies and tonesthat are really relaxing and
just allowing people todisconnect and and not be so.
I always well one thing.
So one of the other therapieswe have is a cold plunge.
I'm a big cold plungeenthusiast, um, I've been doing
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it for quite a long time, but Iteach breath work.
So I teach breath workpractices outside of cold
plunging.
I teach people how to have moreemotional fight or flight
control in any environment, butusing a cold plunge where it's,
where it's present in the momentwhen you're trying to.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
You're going to deal with that one minute or one way
or another, for sure yeah, butthat's why, for me, cold
plunging really and breathworkchanged my life.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
It was a huge defining point in my life.
When I was in australia, I meta community that every morning
would meet for cold water dipsat the beach, no matter what
time of the year it was, andthey were very heavily involved
in doing breathwork practicesand having the deepest spiritual
connection to breath and usingit to control your emotional
response and stress to yourenvironments in general.
(16:42):
So now I teach that practiceand teach people how to cold
plunge, utilizing breath work tocontrol your response to the
environment.
And then, from a spiritual sortof deeper breath work point of
view, we actually do eventsevery month or two months where
we do a big breathworkmeditation, sound healing events
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.
So they're there where, yeah,these are events where people
have that transcendental typebreathwork experience, that
out-of-body type experience.
But even in those ceremoniesI've had, people have come in
with injuries and after an hourof deep, uh, collective,
transcendental breathwork, they,they, the injuries and and n
hour of deep, collective,transcendental breath work, the
injuries and niggles and painsthey've had are completely gone
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and a lot of it is becauseyou're just allowing your
nervous system to let go andrelax.
Once you have an injury of somesort, your body's trying to
compensate, to protect yourself.
So you start getting real stiffand jacked up and when you go
into that, that breath work,your body goes into that full
release of allowing yourself torelax yeah, people don't realize
.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
I think that an injury is kind of
self-sustaining.
You get into a cycle of of um,tension and um, where you get
almost the inflammation comesand then you get spasms and it
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causes each other to keepgetting worse.
Yeah, you get tension, it'll,it'll trigger a spasm which
causes inflammation, whichcontinues the tension, and it
just keeps cycling and you don't, unless you're able to relax
and break that cycle.
And you know, people do it withdrugs and they do it with
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alcohol and they do it withcertain things that have their
own negative responses.
It's really hard for your bodyto be able to get in there and
provide what it takes to restoreall that.
And, like you said, you getyour breath work, so you're
raising the oxygen level in yourblood, you're getting your
cells to communicate at a peaklevel, it gets your immune
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system dialed into what it'sdesigned to do and you know you
can repair yourself like youwould in a good deep sleep.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Yeah're just sitting there in a in a sound bath,
meditative state yeah, yeah, andit's um, it's interesting
because, even like with you know, meditation and sound healing,
like they say, if you like, thebrain tap we have a lot of
people have a great experience.
It's, it's 20 minutes of timewhere you get taken into that
deep delta or theta state, andthey say that 20 minutes of deep
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meditation is the theequivalent of a good four hours
of deep sleep.
So, um, it's, it's a recharge20 minutes out of your day,
especially if you're carrying alot of stress, and even not just
mental stress but physicalstress.
When you go into that deep, uh,delta, theta state, your body
goes into full, deep relaxationand people, people feel, feel
the significant difference.
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A lot of the time I have tokindly wake people up out of
their meditative state and theyalmost come back from not being
present in the space, like wherehave I been, type thing.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
That's amazing.
I've experienced that in anumber of different ways and
sometimes involving plantmedicine, sometimes just in
meditation and recently, youknow, with my experience, I came
close to death not that longago and I learned about putting
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all of your energy to one thingand the power that can come from
that.
And it's very seldom that yourlife presents something where
you have to give it all of yourattention.
You know, and it's meditationkind of you, kind of do that if
you're able.
I've always struggled with that,you know, and you know my brain
(20:34):
just couldn't hardly get it toquiet down, but with this
challenge that was so profound Ihad to, and so when that
happened, I discovered that youcan go to a place where you can
operate, in my opinion, on aquantum level and you can move
things around and you can directenergies and things like that.
(20:56):
And I had never experienced it,had I not been able to do that.
So when people are able to, youknow, do a thing like breath
work and and and the meditationwith the sound bath, and if
they're able to do it wellenough, you can overcome just
about anything.
I, I, I came to a place ofrealization that literally
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there's nothing you can't fix inthat space, if you can get to
it.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Yeah, yeah, and you're totally right.
The hardest thing is getting toit and for some people it's
very challenging.
I did spend a lot of time doinga lot of Joe Dispenza's
meditative practices and breathwork.
Meditative practices and breathwork and you know, I mean he
has a really great documentarythat he released late last year
around all cause.
He's been collecting data forover 20 years just around
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meditation and breath in regardsto the shifts and changes in
the body for people healing andworking with all kinds of trauma
and challenging things.
So, like what you're sharing,our brain is the most powerful
thing on the planet.
We just have to be able to tapin and understand how to use it
to its maximum ability to getwhat we want out of it.
And sometimes, day to day nowwe have like we're just
(22:08):
overstimulated.
Everyone's carrying one ofthese phones around.
It's constant clickbait, it'syou know.
Being able to quieten your mindis one of the most challenging
things, because everything isjust so in your face right now.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Well, that's why getting out in nature can be so
amazing, like I just got backfrom a few days up in the
Sierras.
And you know, you go to a placewhere there's no signal and you
don't care.
Yeah, you turn on your phonebecause it's a camera.
You catch some pictures, butother than that there's no,
nobody to talk to and nobody tohear you.
And you just get out there andin nature and experience it and
(22:40):
feel the sun on your face andthe wind and breathe the clean
air and listen to the eaglesflying by.
And you know, you, I've learnedthat you can disconnect pretty
quickly.
When you don't have the option,it's like, oh cool, I don't
need that.
Cool, I don't need that, Idon't want that, you know.
But when it's there and everpresent and nagging at you you
(23:03):
know everybody's got some littledinger turned on it's like ding
, ding, ding ding yeah yeah, hey, look at me, hey, look at me.
And it's constantly stimulating,you know your little dopamine
receptors going.
Oh, there's something here forme, a little treat, little treat
, little treat, yeah, yeah anduh.
You know it's just like doing aline of cocaine.
It's just, you know theselittle, these little or sugar or
(23:23):
some little, you know some drug.
It's just like each time thesethings happen, you get yourself
geared to oh, something'shappening, it's going to be.
You know, I'm going to get alittle pat on the head or
whatever.
And I think it's really causeda lot of harm to society In the
last 15 years.
You know, I grew up and therewasn't any of this.
(23:45):
You know I there was no cellphones, there was no video games
, there was no computers.
And the life that I spent as akid, you know, we went out and
played, we rode bikes, weexplored, we had friendships.
You know somebody called you,picked up the phone and talked
(24:06):
to them, you know, and it was awhole different world than we
have today and, frankly, I thinkit was a better one.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
I agree.
I mean I'm 42.
So I grew up in the 80s on thecusp of like, before technology
took off too much.
So when I was a kid there wasno mobile phones.
We still rang the house phone.
If no one answered, we rode ourbike over there to see if they
were home.
You know what I mean.
And we live by when thestreetlights are on.
That's when you come home typesituation and I mess situation.
(24:39):
And I messaged a good friendback in australia only a week
ago and he lives on a beautifulproperty.
He's got, uh like he's gotseven kids.
They have a like out in themiddle of nowhere, straight
running through it and theystill live like simple, like uh,
natural you know life, wherethey're still out doing stuff.
They've got animals and thingsand, like I, I feel like yes,
there's certain aspects oftechnology that's evolved us and
has a positive effect, but somuch of it has had a huge
(25:03):
negative effect from apsychological point of view, for
sure.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
I think there's valuable tools and computers and
the access of information.
We've developed our technologyand our understanding of things
exponentially from what it waswhen I started studying herbs.
I was going to use bookstoresand reading books, and now I can
look up anything anywhere andidentify anything and get a
(25:30):
published study, and my learningcurve is dramatically faster
than it was.
Yeah, but when you take thesetools and turn them into a
crutch or, more worse, a drug,then it turns sideways on you.
Speaking of that, I I alwayslike to understand.
(25:51):
You know where somebody comesfrom, like my journey.
I have a story.
What brought me to this?
And and uh, you know I had todo with my health issues and my
experience with Western medicine.
What got you to be interestedin this biohacking and
performance?
Speaker 2 (26:08):
So mine comes from more of a background of
addiction and substance abuseand sort of working through
challenges with childhood trauma, sort of working through
challenges with childhood trauma.
We all have a story and nodoubt the majority of us have
this challenging life story thatyou know constructs our
subconscious as we grow intoadults that we need to sort of
unpack and unfold.
So I grew up in a very domesticenvironment that was fueled by
(26:35):
alcohol and domestic verbalviolence.
Environment that was fueled byalcohol and domestic verbal, uh
verbal violence, um, and at ayoung age I started drinking.
Uh 15 years old I starteddrinking pretty regularly.
That led into marijuana, uh.
That just led into harderrecreational drugs such as uh
speed, ecstasy, cocaine,methamphetamine.
(26:56):
Um, I would say that I was avery high functioning person
whilst using, so I never putmyself in a situation where I
wasn't taking care of myselffrom a financial point of view.
I actually worked in the miningindustry in Australia for a big
portion of my life in my 20s,but my external recreational
(27:20):
habits were leading to somepretty serious mental health
issues and my I feel that partof my change was just evolution
of me being a man, and I feellike men evolve through certain
age ranges where things justshift and go.
Okay, if I don't make anychanges now, like I'm either
gonna be killing myself notintentionally, but like with the
(27:41):
life I'm living or I'm notgonna have the future that I
want, like a wife of kids andthings like that.
Um, so I was around 31.
I was actually in the Himalayanuh mountains, trekking through
the Himalayas on a trek, and Ihad this sort of eye-opening
epiphany of like this is it likeif I don't change now, my life
is going to not turn out where Iwant it to go.
(28:01):
And I was, honestly, I had onon the outlook of like social
media and what I was doing.
It looked like I had a greatlife, but I was really depressed
and lonely because I was single.
I couldn't hold down arelationship.
I was a wild sort of person inregards to my, my, my habits
when I comes biohacking.
From the age of 15, I walkedinto a gym and I was fascinated
(28:24):
with weight training.
So weight training became my atool that I use through
alcoholism, addiction andsubstance abuse.
Throughout these periods oftime when I was having struggles
with mental health andsubstance abuse, I never lost
touch of that physical feelingof being in a gym and using
(28:45):
weight training to escape theoutside world.
But when I decided that Iwanted to make these changes, I
started diving deep intochildhood psychology, early
brain development.
I wanted to understand, like,why I made the decisions I did,
why I would choose substance andalcohol and things to help with
my feelings or emotions, andthen that led me down into
(29:08):
biohacking.
I got into detoxing throughsauna and steam rooms.
I actually found a float center, like the flotation therapy,
and through that I was workingwith a lady that was helping me
unpack some of my childhoodstuff.
And with float therapy I hadthese huge breakthroughs
emotionally with what I wastrying to let go of and what I
(29:29):
was trying to unpacksubconsciously.
That was making me makedecisions or constructing my
subconscious the way it was.
That was sabotaging, um, who,who I wanted to be that and and
it's funny because when you'resynergistically ready to open
yourself up to see thesedifferent things, then different
things get put into your, your,your wheelhouse of of other
(29:51):
things that you can explore.
So through the community thatran the float center, I found
this community that met everymorning and did cold water
therapy, cold plunges, and thatled me into breath work, that
led me into meditation, and itjust kept evolving.
Then I just became, you know,over the last 10 years became
extremely fascinated in biology.
Um, how to, you know,manipulate or or or basically
(30:15):
take control of your biologicalresponse through external
influence, whether it besupplementation, peptides, light
therapy?
And it just kept evolving.
And I was really good at whatI'd done on my own personal
journey and my big dream was toopen up a gym with a wellness
and recovery center in it.
And then, two years ago, wejust had this opportunity, with
(30:37):
a suite that was the perfectsize, to bring the wellness
center and recovery centertogether in one space.
And that's where it took offfrom and that's where I started
to really specialize in puttingall my knowledge and my own
personal journey together withall these different treatments,
to then help people that weremanaging everything from chronic
health issues to cancer, tojust longevity protocols or
(31:00):
athletic performance stuff.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
I love it.
It sounds like you were veryfortunate.
It seemed like you always keptat least one foot or a toe at
least.
In reality.
A lot of people let themselvesjust go and they go down the
hole, but it seems like youalways had at least an anchor
that was aware of your realexistence.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
So that's yeah, yeah that that that was physical
exercise.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Without that, I don't know if I'd still be agreed, so
we're getting low on time, butI always like to hear um in a
situation like yours there's intwo years you've probably ran
into a lot of clients.
There's probably at least onethat stands out as a remarkable
story of recovery ortransformation.
Why don't you share one ofthose stories with us?
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Yeah well, so we she's become a really we're very
community based.
Everyone that comes in herebecomes part of the culture
community and we're part of ourfamily.
So Chrissy uh has, and shequite happily lets me share her
story.
So names and things are totally, totally fine.
Um, chrissy came to us.
She has a rare form of lymphomalymphoma bone cancer in her hip
(32:10):
.
Um, she had been throughmultiple stages of chemotherapy
trying to slow the cancer'sgrowth and her body was not
responding to the treatments andshe was given anywhere from a
week to a month you might livesix months sort of diagnosis.
And she found us organicallythrough friends of ours and came
(32:32):
in and basically she'd beengiven a death sentence.
So she was open to tryinganything.
Um, she came to us and stoppeddoing chemotherapy and I put I,
I laid everything out for her ofwhat I know our technology and
therapies can do to regenerateher body and she spent three
months with us without doing anychemo drugs or anything um,
(32:53):
anything from the westernmedical world.
And what was surprising waswhen she came to me, her
oncologist at the time told herto not do hyperbaric oxygen
treatments, which, if youunderstand the science behind
what is happening with cancercells and how powerful oxygen is
and that's correct.
That's what I mean.
There's so so much distortedinformation, even with
(33:16):
professionals that they don'treally understand what they're
talking about.
And I laid it out for her.
I said if you come and do thesetreatments three or four times
a week, I'm promising you and Itell people.
I'm not here to make promises,I can't make guarantees, but I
believe in what we do, sp whatwe do.
Spend three to four days a weekwith me doing my super healing
(33:37):
protocol and give me that timeand see how your body responds.
She did that and then she gottransferred to all the lead
doctors at ucla.
She went and did all her bloodwork.
Everything came back and theywere like we don't understand
what's going on, like all thenodules on your lungs are
completely disappeared, yourlungs are back to 100, the
fracture that was in your hip isfully healed, the cancer has
slowed, it's no longeraggressive and growing and we've
(34:03):
given her a whole nother yearof life just since she's been
with us a year now.
So that story to me, is whatit's all about.
That's where the magic is.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
Agree, I totally agree, and I think that's
fantastic.
Well, this is about the timewe've got, so I'd like to give
you a chance to give your littleelevator pitch and let people
know how to get ahold of you.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Yeah, so like cultureoccom is our website.
All that information you canbook online, you can find us,
you can reach out to us.
Cultureoc underscore is ourInstagram.
We do a lot of educationalstuff on there so you can find
our information, connect with usthere.
Um, all our details are on thewebsite.
And then I do have a youtubechannel where I try to do some
(34:46):
little you know, podcasts andeducational information, which
is just culture oc.
You'll find that on youtube aswell, um, but I would also like
to take you up on your offer andcome out and see your
ecotherapy and spend a bit oftime in the peace and quiet with
you out there.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
I would love that Absolutely.
Well, it's been an absolutepleasure, and I suspect we'll
probably have more to talk aboutone day soon, and I'd love to
have you back on and go deeperinto some of these things.
So thank you so much forjoining me today.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
All right.
Thank you, joe, and Iappreciate what you're doing in
the community Like this is veryimportant.
Sharing your story, bringingpeople together, and I wish you
all the best on your continuedwellness and health journey.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
Thank, you so much.
This has been another episodeof the Healthy Living Podcast.
I'm your host, Joe Grumbine.
I thank you for your
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