October 2, 2025 • 31 mins
Back pain doesn’t have to mean a lifetime of injections, “minimally invasive” procedures, and the creeping risk of a second or third surgery. We sit down with Dr. Brigitte Rozenberg, founder and clinical director of Spinatomy Centers, to explore a precise, tech-forward path for herniated discs, sciatica, and degenerative disc disease that helps patients heal without the knife. Drawing from 30+ years of clinical experience, Dr. Rozenberg breaks down a three-phase framework—repair, restore, rebuild—that blends advanced non-surgical spinal decompression, laser therapy, electroanalgesia, softwave stimulation, and strength rebuilding to calm nerves, reduce inflammation, and stabilize the spine for the long term.
What sets this approach apart is the sequence and the specificity. Every plan begins with accurate diagnosis and MRI-informed programming so decompression targets the exact level causing pain. From there, high-tech modalities work in concert: decompression to relieve pressure on the nerve root, photobiomodulation and electroanalgesia to accelerate tissue repair and dial down pain signaling, and regenerative softwave inputs to spark local healing. Finally, focused strengthening addresses muscle atrophy and core stability so patients don’t slide back into the same patterns that created the problem. It’s a system that respects the sensitive anatomy of the spine while giving the body a real chance to heal.
We also talk about a growing shift in patient mindset since COVID—more curiosity, more second opinions, and a greater appetite for safest-first care. Surgery still has a place for red flags and severe deficits, but for many patients, a measured, non-surgical pathway offers better odds and fewer tradeoffs. Dr. Rozenberg shares how Spinatomy standardized this protocol across multiple Los Angeles–area locations and why she’s focused on helping other clinicians adopt it nationwide. If you’re weighing options for disc pain or exploring alternatives to repeat procedures, this conversation offers a clear map to make informed choices and reclaim daily life.
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SPEAKER_00 (00:02):
Well, hello, and welcome back to the Healthy
Living Podcast.
I'm your host, Joe Grumbine, andtoday we have a very special
guest.
Her name's Dr.
Bridget Rosenberg, and she's thefounder and clinical director of
spinotomy, chiropractic, spine,and disc centers.
And um, you know, she's got alot of credentials, um, one of
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the most innovative models innon-surgical spinal care.
She's got over 30 years ofclinical experience, and uh
she's built these centers intomulti-location practice.
And you know what?
Uh, instead of focusing on a lotof details, Bridget, welcome to
the show.
I'm really grateful that you'rehere and uh glad to have you.
SPEAKER_01 (00:48):
Thank you for having me.
I'm I'm very excited to be onyour show.
Um, share uh all the knowledge,share the options.
Um, you know, in my career,after so many years of
practicing, you get to the pointwhere it's like, okay, so what's
next and what do you do and whydo you do what you do?
And um, I felt I feel like youknow, the more people know about
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it, the better they'll be.
And then absolutely.
SPEAKER_00 (01:13):
Well, I'm kind of excited to hear about your
story.
You know, there are so manyreasons people get into the
healthcare field, and you know,chiropractic has been around for
a long, long time.
And uh what brought you to it?
SPEAKER_01 (01:29):
You know, my mother was a physician, so I always was
drawn to be becoming a doctor.
That was my passion.
I I really, really enjoy that.
And I I, you know, someone toldme a mentor once told me that
you don't choose the career, thecareer chooses you.
I stumble upon chiropractic.
I really enjoyed the philosophy,I really liked the patient
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interaction.
Um, I I really had chiropracticcare myself.
You know, I felt like that wouldbe a perfect fit for me because
I always I wanted to be a momand start a family, and I knew
that just going through theregular medical, you know,
school would require me toreally spend a lot of hours in
the in the ER and in in thehospital.
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And I really said, like, youknow what, that sounds like
something.
First of all, I love thetreatment, I feel like it's very
beneficial.
Um, and I can really interactwith the patient.
Uh, it just I don't know, itdrew me.
It I was very much drawn tothat.
And like I said, I guess itchose me because I feel like
after all these years ofpracticing, now I have a bigger
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message and a bigger mission anda purpose.
SPEAKER_00 (02:38):
So I love it.
So just for our listeners, youknow, I always I don't like to
assume everybody knowseverything, you know, and I like
to sort of break down umchiropractic has got a lot of um
information.
Um that's sort of there's a lotof bad information out there and
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good information.
So you hear a lot of uh a lot ofpeople's experiences about
chiropractic.
Why don't you just explain whatthat what that actually is?
SPEAKER_01 (03:12):
So chiropractic is a you know, it's a profession,
it's it's a it's a medical, itfalls under the medical realm,
right?
But it's a healing science thatbasically concentrates on
treating the patient with, youknow, with a focus on
musculoskeletal system, thespine, the nerves, the discs,
the extremities, and all ofthat.
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But just like in anything underany health care realm, any
healthcare realm, you can domany different things.
There are chiropractors that arevery just regular family
practice.
They treat the kids and adults,and they treat all these
different, you know, um agegroup.
And then the you have thosechiropractors that are very
specific to sports injuries, andyou have those chiropractors
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that are very specific to justcar accidents and work-related
and trauma-related injuries.
You have others that are veryfocused on nutrition.
So, you know, our body, youknow, now more than before,
there is a lot more awareness ofhealth, wellness, longevity, all
these different things that wecan do.
The world is changing.
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And chiropractic, you know, ifyou if you take it for what it
is, it actually works on themuscular skeletal system.
So, you know, I, even thoughI've done it for so many years
and throughout my career, youknow, I've I've seen it all, you
know, and I've been arounddoctors say, Oh, you guys are
not the real doctors, and I'vebeen around that said, Oh my
God, I love chiropractic, itchanged my life.
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It's it's about education, sure.
It's about knowledge.
I always told patients when theystarted to talk to me about um
in those, you know, manners.
I said, Look, you don't go tothe dermatologist when you have
a heart problem.
When you talk about a heartproblem, you go to the
cardiologist.
When you have a, you know, abone issue, a broken bone, or
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you need some surgery becauseyou had a ski accident, you go
to the orthopedic surgeon.
You don't go to the cardiologistfor a bone.
You know what I'm saying?
So you need to understand, and Iexplained that to the patients,
that you need to know who youneed to go for which problem,
for what problem.
You can't go to one personthat's gonna save everything.
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So if you have headaches, neckpain, back pain, unresolved, you
know, different muscularskeletal conditions, and you
don't get better with themedication because back then,
you know, it wasn't like it isnow.
A lot, I get a lot moreawareness.
You don't get better withinjection, then maybe you should
try something else.
SPEAKER_00 (05:44):
Right.
And you know, and common sensegoes a long way, right?
SPEAKER_01 (05:48):
Well, as we know, common sense is sometimes not
very common.
SPEAKER_00 (05:52):
Not at all.
SPEAKER_01 (05:53):
You know, but what I like is I I'm very
straightforward and I'm commonsensical in my explanation.
I said, I don't fix everything,I fix very specific conditions
that are related to my work andmy specialty.
So if you have headaches, if youhave back pain, if you've been
involved in injuries and nothingelse worked for you,
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chiropractic can really saveyour life.
But if you have diabetes and youhave this and you have that, I
personally don't have I I'm notthat's not my area of expertise,
even though there are doctors ofthere are chiropractors that
they do, you know, specialize infunctional medicine and things
like that.
I said, but I can't fix this.
But if you have you know backpain, I can fix this.
SPEAKER_00 (06:35):
And if you You're not gonna pull out an impacted
wisdom tooth.
SPEAKER_01 (06:38):
No.
And so over the years, as anyother foot field of medicine,
things evolve, things becomebetter, things become a lot more
knowledgeable.
I mean, the the general publicbecome public became a lot more
knowledgeable.
I feel that there was a hugeshift and a huge complete 180.
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Everything in healthcare changedtremendously for the general
public after COVID.
SPEAKER_00 (07:09):
Right.
SPEAKER_01 (07:10):
The the the general public, I'm not talking about
those health freaks or the onesthat are into biohacking, which
I'm not, I'm not opposed or Ithink all of it is incredible
and it has so much space.
But let's assume the averagepatient doesn't know what it
means, it doesn't know what itis, doesn't know what it's doing
for him.
SPEAKER_00 (07:28):
It's trying to live a life.
SPEAKER_01 (07:30):
Exactly.
I believe that every patient orevery person that either had
COVID, was exposed to someonethat had COVID, um, you know,
lived in the world we all livedin during the pandemic, uh,
experienced something with thisthat they didn't experience
before.
So whether the symptoms afterthis condition, after this virus
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affected them long term, whetherthe symptoms of the vaccination
affected them long term,whichever part of that journey
they somehow you were touched.
Sorry?
SPEAKER_00 (08:06):
I said somehow you were touched.
SPEAKER_01 (08:08):
Somewhere, exactly.
And if you were touched byanything and every whatever that
is, you have a different view ofthe outcome of this virus or
this situation that occurred inthe world.
And you are developing maybe anopinion that before that you
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didn't have because you trustedone system.
And I have a lot of patientsthat had COVID, and I had a lot
of patients that had thevaccine, and I am not here to to
to um advocate against or pro,that's not the platform for
that.
But I'm just you know, I'm I I'mjust gonna share with you the
information that I experiencethat I have so many people that
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specifically in my space,because they have pain, they
developed so much inflinflammation, so many symptoms
that they've never had before,that whether they can connect it
or somehow, you know, think thatit's related in one way or
another.
What I'm trying to say is thatthis time in our history and
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life changed everything that, orchanged a lot of the way we view
healthcare and what are theoptions that are available for
us.
And I think that the generalpublic is understanding that
okay, there are more options forme.
And I'm not just gonna go withwhat they tell me.
How about I do a little bit moreresearch and find out what else
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I can do or what else isavailable for me to fix and
treat X, Y, and Z conditions.
SPEAKER_00 (09:39):
I think that's fantastic.
I'm always telling our listenersto step up and be your own
advocate because there are somany answers.
You know, people get stuck intothe healthcare system and they
go to their primary doctor andthey tell them what to do, and
they just sort of follow along.
Maybe not realizing that forevery solution that's presented
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to them, maybe there's twoothers that wasn't.
And, you know, it's up, it's upto each individual to do some
research and and see what's outthere and and you know, figure
out which which route you wantto go on.
Now, as you were developing yourpractice initially, this is
obviously a long time beforeCOVID.
Um, did you have a specificfocus or did you just open your
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doors as to the general public?
SPEAKER_01 (10:27):
You know, I always my specific focus, because I'm
coming from a medicalbackground, was always treating
injury.
So I my focus was alwaystrauma-related injuries.
So whether it's slip and falls,car accident, work-related
injury, sports, a little bit ofeverything as it relates to
injury versus just regularwellness.
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This was my focus.
I always was intrigued about howdo I solve the problem and get
the patient back to their normallife.
And, you know, of course, overthe 30 years, there's so many
developments, so many newtechnologies, so many new things
out there that are available topatients.
Um, and and kind of that thatthat's the route I took 30 years
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ago throughout my career.
And of course, now withspinatomy, that's uh uh the
route I'm taking currently.
SPEAKER_00 (11:16):
I love it.
So, do you deal mostly withacute treatment or more like uh
rehab sort of post-uh post-caretreatment?
SPEAKER_01 (11:25):
So the very unique thing that I do here in
spinatomy, and I created anddeveloped spinatomy about six
years ago.
Um, I specialize in treatingpatients for with advanced disc
condition like herniated bulgingdisc, sciatica, pinch nerve,
degenerative disc disease, allthese different spinal
conditions that require that arevery debilitating, disabling,
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require invasive procedures,surgeries, injections, drugs,
all of that.
And so I came up and created atreatment plan.
I did not invent thetechnologies, but I really
created and invented a protocoland trademarked the protocol
called advanced spinalrestoration treatment that
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allows patients to get betterand to heal themselves from all
these debilitating, painfulconditions without invasive
procedures, using technology ina very systemized pattern, very
specific formulated plan,specific cadence, and the
results are amazing.
And so that's my message and mypurpose is to really educate as
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many people as possible of theopportunities and of the choices
that are available for them.
So when they make a decision,they make an educated decision.
SPEAKER_00 (12:43):
That's exciting.
As I get older in life, youknow, you run into more and more
people that have more and moreproblems with their backs.
And um my experience has beenit's about 50-50 for the people
that have had these invasiveprocedures, whether it's
surgeries or whatever, theinjections, all different things
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they do for discs, discproblems, and whether it's a
bulging disc or a herniateddisc, or a there's so many
problems that can happen withthese discs.
And uh to hear that there's youknow some viable solutions that
don't require, you know, there'speople that get crippled after a
surgery, and then they getanother surgery and another
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surgery, and it turns into this,you know, painful nightmare that
never seems to get better.
And then they get into drugsbecause of the pain and they end
up in a you know fairlymiserable life that wasn't
better than when they started.
SPEAKER_01 (13:40):
You nailed it.
This is exactly the sequence ofevents that I see and hear every
day in my practice.
They start with one littlenon-invasive or minimally
invasive surgery that works fora little bit of time, and then
one or two years later, or fiveor six months, depending on
their own situation andcondition, they need a second
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surgery.
Um, and it's also minimallyinvasive, and then they have
pain from that, and then theyneed to have multiple epidurals,
and then they're looking intosurgery number three, and it's
like this never-ending viciouscycle of all these different
things, and meanwhile, they'rein so much pain, and they're
like, I wish I would never evendo it to begin with.
SPEAKER_00 (14:22):
Right.
SPEAKER_01 (14:23):
And you know, there are times that surgery is
necessary and it will save yourlife, but there are a lot.
I just spoke to a patient beforeI jumped on this podcast who
told me that he has backproblem.
He had um a minimally invasivedysquectomy in his neck, and he
had four epidurals in his lowback, and he really does not
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want to have another surgery onthe low back.
Um, and he said it'sinterestingly enough that now
that I'm starting to research,and then I came across some
orthopedic and neurosurgeon thatare telling and they're talking
about online that don't dosurgery unless you really have
to, because the results are notalways favorable.
It's a very 50-50 chance, andyou can develop a condition
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called failed back surgerysyndrome.
SPEAKER_00 (15:08):
Wow.
SPEAKER_01 (15:09):
There are a lot of you know, um, awareness out
there now in regards to whatworks, what doesn't work, um,
and how to fix it.
And you know, there aresolutions for patients with
debilitating conditions thatthey can get better without
going under the knife, for sure.
SPEAKER_00 (15:32):
I love it.
So I I know a little bit aboutchiropractors.
I've I've been to a chiropractora few times in the in my life,
and it seems that it's a prettyum wide-ranging spectrum of
treatments that chiropractorsoffer, and it it ranges from
simple adjustments and somefairly um, I don't know, I would
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say primitive sort of tools allthe way to, like you were
saying, real high-tech.
Um, and I have no idea evenwhere the technology has come to
this day.
It's probably been 15 yearssince I've been to a
chiropractor, but why don't youtell us a little bit about some
of your tools of the trade?
SPEAKER_01 (16:14):
Yeah, I use a lot of technology in my practice, and
I'll I'll mention some of them.
The main thing that I do in myadvanced spinal restoration, I
mean, adjustments is always partof everything, but you cannot
fix everything with adjustments.
And there are some patients thatit's not even the right thing
for them because it's not evengonna work uh on them.
So one of the biggest thingsthat I do is I use the most
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advanced non-surgical spinaldecompression system, which is
it's a it's the most advanced inthe in the world.
And and uh actually it's madehere in the United States.
It's all FDA cleared to treat adisc and a herniated disc and a
pinched nerve.
And basically it's acomputer-generated technology
that allows, you know, when youwhen I place a patient on that
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particular table, it's a tablewith a computer attached to it
and a tower, and it basicallystretches and decompresses that
disc that I program into thecomputer based on their MRI.
So I have to have an MRI todiagnose the patient properly.
I don't, I don't just in mypractices, and I have three
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locations, I don't just sticksomeone on a table.
That's not the way to do it.
You gotta really understand whatthe problem is and understand,
you know, um how to treat it.
So I put them on a decompressiontable and it takes the pressure
off the nerve.
And when you relieve thepressure off the nerve from a
herneed disc, the patient feelsmuch better and have great
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relief.
Now, on top of that, when youhave a pinched nerve, you
develop a lot of inflammationand pain.
So then we use additional, youknow, tools such as laser
therapy, we use umelectroanalgesia, which is a
pain management device.
Um, it's not like a tens unit,it's all extremely high-tech.
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It reduces, blocks the basicallythe pain signals from reaching
the brain, and it stimulates uhtissue recovery on a cellular
level.
We use softwave therapy, whichis a stem cell stimulation.
Um, we use a lot of, you know,we use a new device that just
recently been FDA cleared.
Again, I'm using those termsbecause these are not just
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machines that someone developedin their garage and even in the
office.
These are very high-tech uhmodalities that have uh very
specific um clearances by theFDA to be treated for a specific
thing.
Uh, we use a machine calledMscope Neo, which actually helps
patients with muscle atrophy andweakness.
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It builds muscle tone.
So the treatment that I createdand designed um follows very
specific three protocols.
We call it repair, restore, andrebuild.
So, first of all, we need torepair the problem, then we need
to restore back the function,make sure that your body can,
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you know, function, and then weneed to rebuild you back so you
can go back to a normallifestyle.
And the concept is that our bodyhas the ability to heal itself
if we provide it and give it aright environment.
To do that, you really need togive it a right environment, and
these modalities are everysingle one of them is providing
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a different portion of thisenvironment in order to reach
the full healing effect.
That can get rid of this painwithout surgery.
SPEAKER_00 (19:41):
Wow, that's impressive.
So, I mean, it sounds to me likeyou're a pioneer in the field.
Um you know, I I I'm not kneedeep into the field, so I'm not,
you know, up on the latest who'sall doing what, but I haven't
heard of this sort of approach.
Um and I I deal with a lot ofpeople, a lot of different
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modalities, a lot of differentpractitioners that come through
this podcast, and even just inmy community that I'm working
with, um, you know, I'm hearingsome things I haven't heard
before.
So do you consider yourself apioneer in the field?
SPEAKER_01 (20:16):
I am a pioneer in the field.
Um I really feel that sometimesit it it has it's it's a good
thing, and and it's sometimes adifficult thing because it's a
good thing to be the pioneer intrailblazing something, but it's
a little bit more challengingsometimes because people just
don't understand and know.
And they think that, oh, let meask my doctor what he thinks
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about that.
And many oftentimes the doctorsdon't even know.
SPEAKER_00 (20:43):
Exactly.
That's what I'm saying.
SPEAKER_01 (20:45):
They know what they know, and they don't know
anything more than that.
SPEAKER_00 (20:47):
I I couldn't agree more.
I think that's that's sort ofthe, you know, I'm I'm uh on the
finishing edge of of defeating areally aggressive cancer, and
I've had to become a pioneer inmy own field of solving my
problem because oncology is, youknow, 20 years behind the
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available treatments, and I'vehad to navigate through a lot of
alternative things.
And most of the time I bring apotential solution to a doctor
and they say, I don't knowanything about that.
And you know, they don'tnecessarily have a negative
opinion about it, they justdon't know, and it's not part of
their standard of care they'vebeen trained to work with.
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And uh I've been working with anumber of pioneers, a lot of
doctors that are willing to kindof push the limits.
And, you know, science getsadvanced by these types of
people and people willing to,you know, push the ticket a
little bit and and all of that.
But a lot of times there'spushback.
And you know, the industrysometimes doesn't like the
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change or isn't sure of it, oryou know, the old the old guard
doesn't necessarily like the newkid coming up going, oh, maybe
we're gonna do this thing.
Do you have any sort ofexperience where you've gotten
pushback on it all?
SPEAKER_01 (22:07):
You know, I had a lot, of course, we all do when
we use things that are outsideof the mainstream and kind of
like thinking outside of thebox.
Um, you know, in big platformsand small platforms, we see it
all the time.
Right.
But you know, yes, of course.
Well, I mean, I had exactly thesame as you described.
I had a patient that went totheir doctor, and the doctor
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said, Well, I don't knowanything about that.
I would not go on this machine,I don't know much about this.
Well, I'm like, well, but Iwould do an epidural or I would
do this.
And I'm like, then I say to thepatient, I'm like, Well, what
I'm explaining to you, I'm notconvincing anybody to do
anything because at the end ofthe day, it's your choice and
you're gonna make your owndecisions.
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I am showing you and I amexplaining to you what can be
done if you do it that wayversus this way, and if you
still need to do surgery, youknow, you can always do that.
But you know, you turn fromsurgery, right?
Because I said, and I always saythat surgeons are very well
trained and they know whatthey're doing, and they are and
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and they're there to save yourlife um all the time.
I'm gonna say that, I'm notgonna say most of the time, but
all the time.
SPEAKER_00 (23:17):
Yeah, yeah, that's our job.
SPEAKER_01 (23:18):
Exactly.
But you're dealing with a verysensitive anatomy, right?
Spinal cord, the spine, and thebones, and the discs, nerve, and
the nerves.
It's a very sensitive anatomy.
You do not know how your bodywill react to the successful
surgery, right?
You know, you just don't know.
So you can always do it, but whydon't you want to try something
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that's less invasive if it makessense to you?
My job is to educate you and tomake sense out of it.
Your job is to say, you knowwhat, that makes sense.
I want to try this or that doesnot, and I'm not gonna try it.
And it's like in everything elseyou do the food you eat, you
know, the way you live yourlifestyle, it it all falls under
the same kind of umbrella.
It has to make sense.
SPEAKER_00 (24:03):
Well, I I think you're bringing up a really
important point.
I think as a patient and apatient advocate is looking at a
treatment, you know, when you goto the healthcare system, often
their first solution is a veryaggressive, potentially invasive
and potentially negativeoutcome.
You know, they're they they theyput the risk into the factor of
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it all.
And as a human being who'strying to make sure that I'm
getting best the best I can, itmakes sense to approach it in an
incremental way.
You say, well, what's the leastdangerous thing I could do that
might help me?
And and I look at you know, thesafety versus possible outcome,
and I start with the most safe,and maybe there's not the
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highest possible outcome, butit's the most safe.
So, you know, if it doesn'twork, well, you can always go to
a little less safe thing.
And and it doesn't seem that um,you know, the the healthcare
system has that sort ofapproach, whereas some of the
more holistic modalities seem tobring that again common sense
into it.
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Let's start with the the leastharmful thing and and work our
way out, you know, to a morerisky thing if you need to.
And I really like that about youknow your approach and and and
some of these.
I know we're getting a littlelight on time, but I really like
to hear a well, a couple ofquestions.
Number one, your practice isgrowing, and um obviously this
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is a region, you know, a lot ofmodalities they do this, you
know, virtual work and all this,but this is a hands-on situation
that you're dealing with.
So tell us about where the areasthat you do serve.
SPEAKER_01 (25:45):
So I am in the uh in the Los Angeles area.
I have three locations.
I have one in the Van Ice area,which is the San Fernando
Valley, one in Culver City,which is near the beach, near
Venice Beach, near Marina delRey.
Um, and then I have one inOntario, which is more the
inland empire.
Uh so those are my threelocations.
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And um, we have uh all thecenters are equipped with the
same technology in all of them,and we serve the population the
same, it's the same treatmentplan.
All the doctors are trained.
Uh, I traveled between thelocations.
We have uh a whole team ofnationally trained staff that
again, this is not someone thatcan turn on and off a machine.
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Uh it's just very specific.
So that's where I am.
The name of uh the practice iscalled Spinatomy Centers.
Uh, and you can find us onspinatomycenters.com.
We have a website with a lot ofinformation.
Uh, we have a lot of informationon many different platforms,
videos on YouTube, Facebook, allthat stuff.
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So you can see how it's workingand how it's done.
And um, yeah, that that's youknow, I have a I have a mission
and I have a purpose like inthat in that in this stage of my
career, like to really givepeople another choice and
another hope.
And if if I can, you know, Ican't make, I can't change the
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world, but if I can give peopleanother option to have a better
life, then I feel like I've donemy my share of um you know
helping.
SPEAKER_00 (27:20):
I love it.
Well, this has really been aneye-opening conversation.
Um, actually, your Ontario umpractice is only less than an
hour from me.
I I I'm out here in the inlandempire myself, so um I will
definitely let people know aboutyou.
Um, this has been fascinating,Bridget.
(27:40):
Um, I'm I'm very pleased to havereally gotten a chance to look
through your eyes.
And um, I I really like I seeyou seem really inspired, and I
really look forward actually tohearing um about the future of
this.
Where do you see yourself infive years?
You know, how how do you seethis to expand and grow?
SPEAKER_01 (28:02):
That's a great question.
But uh honestly, um, I wouldlove to um take spinatomy
nationwide and internationally.
I think that this is so um,there are such a big need in the
market and and the populationfor patients.
Back pain is the number onecause uh of people missing time
(28:23):
off work.
It's the number one cause ofdisability in the United States
and it's a multi-billion dollarindustry.
Um, but it's because people justdon't know what the other
options are.
So I would love to be everywhereand help other physicians and
other doctors implement the samesystem that I have.
I can't open offices everywhere.
It's a lot.
I'm just one person.
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But I am um on a mission toreally help a lot of other
doctors that want to implementthe same disciplines and the
same practices in their in theiruh facilities and grow this
nationwide.
That's where I see myself.
SPEAKER_00 (28:59):
Do you attend um conferences and symposiums as a
presenter?
SPEAKER_01 (29:04):
I do, but I need to attend more now.
So if you have anything to youknow suggest, then I'll be open
for suggestions.
Yes, I do, of course.
SPEAKER_00 (29:13):
I love it.
I love it.
Well, hopefully, um, you know,we'll be able to continue this
conversation.
We have so many things we couldstill talk about.
Um, it's really been an honor tospend some time with you.
Dr.
Bridget Rosenberg, I really wantto thank you for joining us on
the show today.
SPEAKER_01 (29:28):
Thanks, Joe, for having me.
SPEAKER_00 (29:30):
Well, this has been another episode of the Healthy
Living Podcast.
I'm your host, Joe Grumba.
I want to thank all thelisteners who've made this
possible, and we will see younext week.
Well, hello, and welcome back to the Healthy
Living Podcast.
I'm your host, Joe Grumbine, andtoday we have a very special
guest.
Her name's Dr.
Bridget Rosenberg, and she's thefounder and clinical director of
spinotomy, chiropractic, spine,and disc centers.
And um, you know, she's got alot of credentials, um, one of
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the most innovative models innon-surgical spinal care.
She's got over 30 years ofclinical experience, and uh
she's built these centers intomulti-location practice.
And you know what?
Uh, instead of focusing on a lotof details, Bridget, welcome to
the show.
I'm really grateful that you'rehere and uh glad to have you.
SPEAKER_01 (00:48):
Thank you for having me.
I'm I'm very excited to be onyour show.
Um, share uh all the knowledge,share the options.
Um, you know, in my career,after so many years of
practicing, you get to the pointwhere it's like, okay, so what's
next and what do you do and whydo you do what you do?
And um, I felt I feel like youknow, the more people know about
(01:10):
it, the better they'll be.
And then absolutely.
SPEAKER_00 (01:13):
Well, I'm kind of excited to hear about your
story.
You know, there are so manyreasons people get into the
healthcare field, and you know,chiropractic has been around for
a long, long time.
And uh what brought you to it?
SPEAKER_01 (01:29):
You know, my mother was a physician, so I always was
drawn to be becoming a doctor.
That was my passion.
I I really, really enjoy that.
And I I, you know, someone toldme a mentor once told me that
you don't choose the career, thecareer chooses you.
I stumble upon chiropractic.
I really enjoyed the philosophy,I really liked the patient
(01:51):
interaction.
Um, I I really had chiropracticcare myself.
You know, I felt like that wouldbe a perfect fit for me because
I always I wanted to be a momand start a family, and I knew
that just going through theregular medical, you know,
school would require me toreally spend a lot of hours in
the in the ER and in in thehospital.
(02:14):
And I really said, like, youknow what, that sounds like
something.
First of all, I love thetreatment, I feel like it's very
beneficial.
Um, and I can really interactwith the patient.
Uh, it just I don't know, itdrew me.
It I was very much drawn tothat.
And like I said, I guess itchose me because I feel like
after all these years ofpracticing, now I have a bigger
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message and a bigger mission anda purpose.
SPEAKER_00 (02:38):
So I love it.
So just for our listeners, youknow, I always I don't like to
assume everybody knowseverything, you know, and I like
to sort of break down umchiropractic has got a lot of um
information.
Um that's sort of there's a lotof bad information out there and
(03:00):
good information.
So you hear a lot of uh a lot ofpeople's experiences about
chiropractic.
Why don't you just explain whatthat what that actually is?
SPEAKER_01 (03:12):
So chiropractic is a you know, it's a profession,
it's it's a it's a medical, itfalls under the medical realm,
right?
But it's a healing science thatbasically concentrates on
treating the patient with, youknow, with a focus on
musculoskeletal system, thespine, the nerves, the discs,
the extremities, and all ofthat.
(03:33):
But just like in anything underany health care realm, any
healthcare realm, you can domany different things.
There are chiropractors that arevery just regular family
practice.
They treat the kids and adults,and they treat all these
different, you know, um agegroup.
And then the you have thosechiropractors that are very
specific to sports injuries, andyou have those chiropractors
(03:57):
that are very specific to justcar accidents and work-related
and trauma-related injuries.
You have others that are veryfocused on nutrition.
So, you know, our body, youknow, now more than before,
there is a lot more awareness ofhealth, wellness, longevity, all
these different things that wecan do.
The world is changing.
(04:19):
And chiropractic, you know, ifyou if you take it for what it
is, it actually works on themuscular skeletal system.
So, you know, I, even thoughI've done it for so many years
and throughout my career, youknow, I've I've seen it all, you
know, and I've been arounddoctors say, Oh, you guys are
not the real doctors, and I'vebeen around that said, Oh my
God, I love chiropractic, itchanged my life.
(04:40):
It's it's about education, sure.
It's about knowledge.
I always told patients when theystarted to talk to me about um
in those, you know, manners.
I said, Look, you don't go tothe dermatologist when you have
a heart problem.
When you talk about a heartproblem, you go to the
cardiologist.
When you have a, you know, abone issue, a broken bone, or
(05:04):
you need some surgery becauseyou had a ski accident, you go
to the orthopedic surgeon.
You don't go to the cardiologistfor a bone.
You know what I'm saying?
So you need to understand, and Iexplained that to the patients,
that you need to know who youneed to go for which problem,
for what problem.
You can't go to one personthat's gonna save everything.
(05:25):
So if you have headaches, neckpain, back pain, unresolved, you
know, different muscularskeletal conditions, and you
don't get better with themedication because back then,
you know, it wasn't like it isnow.
A lot, I get a lot moreawareness.
You don't get better withinjection, then maybe you should
try something else.
SPEAKER_00 (05:44):
Right.
And you know, and common sensegoes a long way, right?
SPEAKER_01 (05:48):
Well, as we know, common sense is sometimes not
very common.
SPEAKER_00 (05:52):
Not at all.
SPEAKER_01 (05:53):
You know, but what I like is I I'm very
straightforward and I'm commonsensical in my explanation.
I said, I don't fix everything,I fix very specific conditions
that are related to my work andmy specialty.
So if you have headaches, if youhave back pain, if you've been
involved in injuries and nothingelse worked for you,
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chiropractic can really saveyour life.
But if you have diabetes and youhave this and you have that, I
personally don't have I I'm notthat's not my area of expertise,
even though there are doctors ofthere are chiropractors that
they do, you know, specialize infunctional medicine and things
like that.
I said, but I can't fix this.
But if you have you know backpain, I can fix this.
SPEAKER_00 (06:35):
And if you You're not gonna pull out an impacted
wisdom tooth.
SPEAKER_01 (06:38):
No.
And so over the years, as anyother foot field of medicine,
things evolve, things becomebetter, things become a lot more
knowledgeable.
I mean, the the general publicbecome public became a lot more
knowledgeable.
I feel that there was a hugeshift and a huge complete 180.
(07:03):
Everything in healthcare changedtremendously for the general
public after COVID.
SPEAKER_00 (07:09):
Right.
SPEAKER_01 (07:10):
The the the general public, I'm not talking about
those health freaks or the onesthat are into biohacking, which
I'm not, I'm not opposed or Ithink all of it is incredible
and it has so much space.
But let's assume the averagepatient doesn't know what it
means, it doesn't know what itis, doesn't know what it's doing
for him.
SPEAKER_00 (07:28):
It's trying to live a life.
SPEAKER_01 (07:30):
Exactly.
I believe that every patient orevery person that either had
COVID, was exposed to someonethat had COVID, um, you know,
lived in the world we all livedin during the pandemic, uh,
experienced something with thisthat they didn't experience
before.
So whether the symptoms afterthis condition, after this virus
(07:54):
affected them long term, whetherthe symptoms of the vaccination
affected them long term,whichever part of that journey
they somehow you were touched.
Sorry?
SPEAKER_00 (08:06):
I said somehow you were touched.
SPEAKER_01 (08:08):
Somewhere, exactly.
And if you were touched byanything and every whatever that
is, you have a different view ofthe outcome of this virus or
this situation that occurred inthe world.
And you are developing maybe anopinion that before that you
(08:28):
didn't have because you trustedone system.
And I have a lot of patientsthat had COVID, and I had a lot
of patients that had thevaccine, and I am not here to to
to um advocate against or pro,that's not the platform for
that.
But I'm just you know, I'm I I'mjust gonna share with you the
information that I experiencethat I have so many people that
(08:51):
specifically in my space,because they have pain, they
developed so much inflinflammation, so many symptoms
that they've never had before,that whether they can connect it
or somehow, you know, think thatit's related in one way or
another.
What I'm trying to say is thatthis time in our history and
(09:12):
life changed everything that, orchanged a lot of the way we view
healthcare and what are theoptions that are available for
us.
And I think that the generalpublic is understanding that
okay, there are more options forme.
And I'm not just gonna go withwhat they tell me.
How about I do a little bit moreresearch and find out what else
(09:32):
I can do or what else isavailable for me to fix and
treat X, Y, and Z conditions.
SPEAKER_00 (09:39):
I think that's fantastic.
I'm always telling our listenersto step up and be your own
advocate because there are somany answers.
You know, people get stuck intothe healthcare system and they
go to their primary doctor andthey tell them what to do, and
they just sort of follow along.
Maybe not realizing that forevery solution that's presented
(10:01):
to them, maybe there's twoothers that wasn't.
And, you know, it's up, it's upto each individual to do some
research and and see what's outthere and and you know, figure
out which which route you wantto go on.
Now, as you were developing yourpractice initially, this is
obviously a long time beforeCOVID.
Um, did you have a specificfocus or did you just open your
(10:25):
doors as to the general public?
SPEAKER_01 (10:27):
You know, I always my specific focus, because I'm
coming from a medicalbackground, was always treating
injury.
So I my focus was alwaystrauma-related injuries.
So whether it's slip and falls,car accident, work-related
injury, sports, a little bit ofeverything as it relates to
injury versus just regularwellness.
(10:47):
This was my focus.
I always was intrigued about howdo I solve the problem and get
the patient back to their normallife.
And, you know, of course, overthe 30 years, there's so many
developments, so many newtechnologies, so many new things
out there that are available topatients.
Um, and and kind of that thatthat's the route I took 30 years
(11:08):
ago throughout my career.
And of course, now withspinatomy, that's uh uh the
route I'm taking currently.
SPEAKER_00 (11:16):
I love it.
So, do you deal mostly withacute treatment or more like uh
rehab sort of post-uh post-caretreatment?
SPEAKER_01 (11:25):
So the very unique thing that I do here in
spinatomy, and I created anddeveloped spinatomy about six
years ago.
Um, I specialize in treatingpatients for with advanced disc
condition like herniated bulgingdisc, sciatica, pinch nerve,
degenerative disc disease, allthese different spinal
conditions that require that arevery debilitating, disabling,
(11:49):
require invasive procedures,surgeries, injections, drugs,
all of that.
And so I came up and created atreatment plan.
I did not invent thetechnologies, but I really
created and invented a protocoland trademarked the protocol
called advanced spinalrestoration treatment that
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allows patients to get betterand to heal themselves from all
these debilitating, painfulconditions without invasive
procedures, using technology ina very systemized pattern, very
specific formulated plan,specific cadence, and the
results are amazing.
And so that's my message and mypurpose is to really educate as
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many people as possible of theopportunities and of the choices
that are available for them.
So when they make a decision,they make an educated decision.
SPEAKER_00 (12:43):
That's exciting.
As I get older in life, youknow, you run into more and more
people that have more and moreproblems with their backs.
And um my experience has beenit's about 50-50 for the people
that have had these invasiveprocedures, whether it's
surgeries or whatever, theinjections, all different things
(13:03):
they do for discs, discproblems, and whether it's a
bulging disc or a herniateddisc, or a there's so many
problems that can happen withthese discs.
And uh to hear that there's youknow some viable solutions that
don't require, you know, there'speople that get crippled after a
surgery, and then they getanother surgery and another
(13:25):
surgery, and it turns into this,you know, painful nightmare that
never seems to get better.
And then they get into drugsbecause of the pain and they end
up in a you know fairlymiserable life that wasn't
better than when they started.
SPEAKER_01 (13:40):
You nailed it.
This is exactly the sequence ofevents that I see and hear every
day in my practice.
They start with one littlenon-invasive or minimally
invasive surgery that works fora little bit of time, and then
one or two years later, or fiveor six months, depending on
their own situation andcondition, they need a second
(14:00):
surgery.
Um, and it's also minimallyinvasive, and then they have
pain from that, and then theyneed to have multiple epidurals,
and then they're looking intosurgery number three, and it's
like this never-ending viciouscycle of all these different
things, and meanwhile, they'rein so much pain, and they're
like, I wish I would never evendo it to begin with.
SPEAKER_00 (14:22):
Right.
SPEAKER_01 (14:23):
And you know, there are times that surgery is
necessary and it will save yourlife, but there are a lot.
I just spoke to a patient beforeI jumped on this podcast who
told me that he has backproblem.
He had um a minimally invasivedysquectomy in his neck, and he
had four epidurals in his lowback, and he really does not
(14:44):
want to have another surgery onthe low back.
Um, and he said it'sinterestingly enough that now
that I'm starting to research,and then I came across some
orthopedic and neurosurgeon thatare telling and they're talking
about online that don't dosurgery unless you really have
to, because the results are notalways favorable.
It's a very 50-50 chance, andyou can develop a condition
(15:06):
called failed back surgerysyndrome.
SPEAKER_00 (15:08):
Wow.
SPEAKER_01 (15:09):
There are a lot of you know, um, awareness out
there now in regards to whatworks, what doesn't work, um,
and how to fix it.
And you know, there aresolutions for patients with
debilitating conditions thatthey can get better without
going under the knife, for sure.
SPEAKER_00 (15:32):
I love it.
So I I know a little bit aboutchiropractors.
I've I've been to a chiropractora few times in the in my life,
and it seems that it's a prettyum wide-ranging spectrum of
treatments that chiropractorsoffer, and it it ranges from
simple adjustments and somefairly um, I don't know, I would
(15:56):
say primitive sort of tools allthe way to, like you were
saying, real high-tech.
Um, and I have no idea evenwhere the technology has come to
this day.
It's probably been 15 yearssince I've been to a
chiropractor, but why don't youtell us a little bit about some
of your tools of the trade?
SPEAKER_01 (16:14):
Yeah, I use a lot of technology in my practice, and
I'll I'll mention some of them.
The main thing that I do in myadvanced spinal restoration, I
mean, adjustments is always partof everything, but you cannot
fix everything with adjustments.
And there are some patients thatit's not even the right thing
for them because it's not evengonna work uh on them.
So one of the biggest thingsthat I do is I use the most
(16:35):
advanced non-surgical spinaldecompression system, which is
it's a it's the most advanced inthe in the world.
And and uh actually it's madehere in the United States.
It's all FDA cleared to treat adisc and a herniated disc and a
pinched nerve.
And basically it's acomputer-generated technology
that allows, you know, when youwhen I place a patient on that
(16:59):
particular table, it's a tablewith a computer attached to it
and a tower, and it basicallystretches and decompresses that
disc that I program into thecomputer based on their MRI.
So I have to have an MRI todiagnose the patient properly.
I don't, I don't just in mypractices, and I have three
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locations, I don't just sticksomeone on a table.
That's not the way to do it.
You gotta really understand whatthe problem is and understand,
you know, um how to treat it.
So I put them on a decompressiontable and it takes the pressure
off the nerve.
And when you relieve thepressure off the nerve from a
herneed disc, the patient feelsmuch better and have great
(17:41):
relief.
Now, on top of that, when youhave a pinched nerve, you
develop a lot of inflammationand pain.
So then we use additional, youknow, tools such as laser
therapy, we use umelectroanalgesia, which is a
pain management device.
Um, it's not like a tens unit,it's all extremely high-tech.
(18:01):
It reduces, blocks the basicallythe pain signals from reaching
the brain, and it stimulates uhtissue recovery on a cellular
level.
We use softwave therapy, whichis a stem cell stimulation.
Um, we use a lot of, you know,we use a new device that just
recently been FDA cleared.
Again, I'm using those termsbecause these are not just
(18:24):
machines that someone developedin their garage and even in the
office.
These are very high-tech uhmodalities that have uh very
specific um clearances by theFDA to be treated for a specific
thing.
Uh, we use a machine calledMscope Neo, which actually helps
patients with muscle atrophy andweakness.
(18:46):
It builds muscle tone.
So the treatment that I createdand designed um follows very
specific three protocols.
We call it repair, restore, andrebuild.
So, first of all, we need torepair the problem, then we need
to restore back the function,make sure that your body can,
(19:06):
you know, function, and then weneed to rebuild you back so you
can go back to a normallifestyle.
And the concept is that our bodyhas the ability to heal itself
if we provide it and give it aright environment.
To do that, you really need togive it a right environment, and
these modalities are everysingle one of them is providing
(19:31):
a different portion of thisenvironment in order to reach
the full healing effect.
That can get rid of this painwithout surgery.
SPEAKER_00 (19:41):
Wow, that's impressive.
So, I mean, it sounds to me likeyou're a pioneer in the field.
Um you know, I I I'm not kneedeep into the field, so I'm not,
you know, up on the latest who'sall doing what, but I haven't
heard of this sort of approach.
Um and I I deal with a lot ofpeople, a lot of different
(20:02):
modalities, a lot of differentpractitioners that come through
this podcast, and even just inmy community that I'm working
with, um, you know, I'm hearingsome things I haven't heard
before.
So do you consider yourself apioneer in the field?
SPEAKER_01 (20:16):
I am a pioneer in the field.
Um I really feel that sometimesit it it has it's it's a good
thing, and and it's sometimes adifficult thing because it's a
good thing to be the pioneer intrailblazing something, but it's
a little bit more challengingsometimes because people just
don't understand and know.
And they think that, oh, let meask my doctor what he thinks
(20:37):
about that.
And many oftentimes the doctorsdon't even know.
SPEAKER_00 (20:43):
Exactly.
That's what I'm saying.
SPEAKER_01 (20:45):
They know what they know, and they don't know
anything more than that.
SPEAKER_00 (20:47):
I I couldn't agree more.
I think that's that's sort ofthe, you know, I'm I'm uh on the
finishing edge of of defeating areally aggressive cancer, and
I've had to become a pioneer inmy own field of solving my
problem because oncology is, youknow, 20 years behind the
(21:08):
available treatments, and I'vehad to navigate through a lot of
alternative things.
And most of the time I bring apotential solution to a doctor
and they say, I don't knowanything about that.
And you know, they don'tnecessarily have a negative
opinion about it, they justdon't know, and it's not part of
their standard of care they'vebeen trained to work with.
(21:31):
And uh I've been working with anumber of pioneers, a lot of
doctors that are willing to kindof push the limits.
And, you know, science getsadvanced by these types of
people and people willing to,you know, push the ticket a
little bit and and all of that.
But a lot of times there'spushback.
And you know, the industrysometimes doesn't like the
(21:53):
change or isn't sure of it, oryou know, the old the old guard
doesn't necessarily like the newkid coming up going, oh, maybe
we're gonna do this thing.
Do you have any sort ofexperience where you've gotten
pushback on it all?
SPEAKER_01 (22:07):
You know, I had a lot, of course, we all do when
we use things that are outsideof the mainstream and kind of
like thinking outside of thebox.
Um, you know, in big platformsand small platforms, we see it
all the time.
Right.
But you know, yes, of course.
Well, I mean, I had exactly thesame as you described.
I had a patient that went totheir doctor, and the doctor
(22:29):
said, Well, I don't knowanything about that.
I would not go on this machine,I don't know much about this.
Well, I'm like, well, but Iwould do an epidural or I would
do this.
And I'm like, then I say to thepatient, I'm like, Well, what
I'm explaining to you, I'm notconvincing anybody to do
anything because at the end ofthe day, it's your choice and
you're gonna make your owndecisions.
(22:49):
I am showing you and I amexplaining to you what can be
done if you do it that wayversus this way, and if you
still need to do surgery, youknow, you can always do that.
But you know, you turn fromsurgery, right?
Because I said, and I always saythat surgeons are very well
trained and they know whatthey're doing, and they are and
(23:10):
and they're there to save yourlife um all the time.
I'm gonna say that, I'm notgonna say most of the time, but
all the time.
SPEAKER_00 (23:17):
Yeah, yeah, that's our job.
SPEAKER_01 (23:18):
Exactly.
But you're dealing with a verysensitive anatomy, right?
Spinal cord, the spine, and thebones, and the discs, nerve, and
the nerves.
It's a very sensitive anatomy.
You do not know how your bodywill react to the successful
surgery, right?
You know, you just don't know.
So you can always do it, but whydon't you want to try something
(23:42):
that's less invasive if it makessense to you?
My job is to educate you and tomake sense out of it.
Your job is to say, you knowwhat, that makes sense.
I want to try this or that doesnot, and I'm not gonna try it.
And it's like in everything elseyou do the food you eat, you
know, the way you live yourlifestyle, it it all falls under
the same kind of umbrella.
It has to make sense.
SPEAKER_00 (24:03):
Well, I I think you're bringing up a really
important point.
I think as a patient and apatient advocate is looking at a
treatment, you know, when you goto the healthcare system, often
their first solution is a veryaggressive, potentially invasive
and potentially negativeoutcome.
You know, they're they they theyput the risk into the factor of
(24:27):
it all.
And as a human being who'strying to make sure that I'm
getting best the best I can, itmakes sense to approach it in an
incremental way.
You say, well, what's the leastdangerous thing I could do that
might help me?
And and I look at you know, thesafety versus possible outcome,
and I start with the most safe,and maybe there's not the
(24:50):
highest possible outcome, butit's the most safe.
So, you know, if it doesn'twork, well, you can always go to
a little less safe thing.
And and it doesn't seem that um,you know, the the healthcare
system has that sort ofapproach, whereas some of the
more holistic modalities seem tobring that again common sense
into it.
(25:10):
Let's start with the the leastharmful thing and and work our
way out, you know, to a morerisky thing if you need to.
And I really like that about youknow your approach and and and
some of these.
I know we're getting a littlelight on time, but I really like
to hear a well, a couple ofquestions.
Number one, your practice isgrowing, and um obviously this
(25:33):
is a region, you know, a lot ofmodalities they do this, you
know, virtual work and all this,but this is a hands-on situation
that you're dealing with.
So tell us about where the areasthat you do serve.
SPEAKER_01 (25:45):
So I am in the uh in the Los Angeles area.
I have three locations.
I have one in the Van Ice area,which is the San Fernando
Valley, one in Culver City,which is near the beach, near
Venice Beach, near Marina delRey.
Um, and then I have one inOntario, which is more the
inland empire.
Uh so those are my threelocations.
(26:07):
And um, we have uh all thecenters are equipped with the
same technology in all of them,and we serve the population the
same, it's the same treatmentplan.
All the doctors are trained.
Uh, I traveled between thelocations.
We have uh a whole team ofnationally trained staff that
again, this is not someone thatcan turn on and off a machine.
(26:29):
Uh it's just very specific.
So that's where I am.
The name of uh the practice iscalled Spinatomy Centers.
Uh, and you can find us onspinatomycenters.com.
We have a website with a lot ofinformation.
Uh, we have a lot of informationon many different platforms,
videos on YouTube, Facebook, allthat stuff.
(26:50):
So you can see how it's workingand how it's done.
And um, yeah, that that's youknow, I have a I have a mission
and I have a purpose like inthat in that in this stage of my
career, like to really givepeople another choice and
another hope.
And if if I can, you know, Ican't make, I can't change the
(27:11):
world, but if I can give peopleanother option to have a better
life, then I feel like I've donemy my share of um you know
helping.
SPEAKER_00 (27:20):
I love it.
Well, this has really been aneye-opening conversation.
Um, actually, your Ontario umpractice is only less than an
hour from me.
I I I'm out here in the inlandempire myself, so um I will
definitely let people know aboutyou.
Um, this has been fascinating,Bridget.
(27:40):
Um, I'm I'm very pleased to havereally gotten a chance to look
through your eyes.
And um, I I really like I seeyou seem really inspired, and I
really look forward actually tohearing um about the future of
this.
Where do you see yourself infive years?
You know, how how do you seethis to expand and grow?
SPEAKER_01 (28:02):
That's a great question.
But uh honestly, um, I wouldlove to um take spinatomy
nationwide and internationally.
I think that this is so um,there are such a big need in the
market and and the populationfor patients.
Back pain is the number onecause uh of people missing time
(28:23):
off work.
It's the number one cause ofdisability in the United States
and it's a multi-billion dollarindustry.
Um, but it's because people justdon't know what the other
options are.
So I would love to be everywhereand help other physicians and
other doctors implement the samesystem that I have.
I can't open offices everywhere.
It's a lot.
I'm just one person.
(28:45):
But I am um on a mission toreally help a lot of other
doctors that want to implementthe same disciplines and the
same practices in their in theiruh facilities and grow this
nationwide.
That's where I see myself.
SPEAKER_00 (28:59):
Do you attend um conferences and symposiums as a
presenter?
SPEAKER_01 (29:04):
I do, but I need to attend more now.
So if you have anything to youknow suggest, then I'll be open
for suggestions.
Yes, I do, of course.
SPEAKER_00 (29:13):
I love it.
I love it.
Well, hopefully, um, you know,we'll be able to continue this
conversation.
We have so many things we couldstill talk about.
Um, it's really been an honor tospend some time with you.
Dr.
Bridget Rosenberg, I really wantto thank you for joining us on
the show today.
SPEAKER_01 (29:28):
Thanks, Joe, for having me.
SPEAKER_00 (29:30):
Well, this has been another episode of the Healthy
Living Podcast.
I'm your host, Joe Grumba.
I want to thank all thelisteners who've made this
possible, and we will see younext week.
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