April 30, 2025 • 41 mins
The secret to better health might be as simple as light. Dr. Carl Rothschild joins us to reveal how red light therapy is transforming lives through remarkable cellular healing.
What began as skepticism turned into a mission when Dr. Rothschild, a chiropractor with 47 years of experience, witnessed the profound effects of combining red and near-infrared light. His journey from doubtful practitioner to passionate advocate reveals a therapy that works at our most fundamental cellular level.
At the heart of this treatment is the mitochondria—our cellular power plants making up 10% of our body weight. When stimulated by specific light wavelengths, the mitochondria's cytochrome C oxidase enzyme springs to life, restoring energy production throughout the body. This process has proven transformative for patients suffering from conditions previously considered untreatable. From a man experiencing weekly heart attacks for 12 years who found complete relief after one session, to someone with debilitating Charcot-Marie-Tooth disease who regained mobility after decades of suffering—the results border on miraculous.
Unlike treatments that destroy tissue or introduce foreign substances, red light therapy works with the body's natural processes. For weight loss, it temporarily makes fat cells more porous rather than destroying them. For healing, it penetrates deep into tissues without generating harmful heat. The most effective application bathes the entire body simultaneously, addressing everything from autoimmune conditions and neurological disorders to skin problems and athletic recovery.
Curious about trying red light therapy? Dr. Rothschild recommends a simple six-session protocol to experience benefits firsthand. Visit trifectalight.com to find a practitioner near you, or explore the 3.5+ million research papers on Google Scholar documenting this therapy's effectiveness. Your cells might just be waiting for the right light to shine.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Well, hello and welcome back to the Healthy
Living Podcast.
I'm your host, joe Grumbine,and today we have a very special
guest joining us, dr CarlRothschild.
And Dr Rothschild is apioneering advocate of red light
therapy and we've talked aboutthat on the show already a
little bit, already a little bit, and we're going to talk about
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his story and he's got someproducts that he offers and
we're going to just jump righton into it.
So, dr Rothschild, why don'tyou tell us a little bit about
first, what is red light therapy?
A lot of people don't have anyidea.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
So, first of all, thank you for having me here.
Um, as far as what is red lighttherapy?
When I when I use the term redlight therapy, I'm talking about
the combination of red lightand near infrared.
So near infrared is invisibleto the naked eye.
But the results?
We were the first company,really 12, 13, maybe even 14
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years ago, to integrate red andnear infrared.
So, if I can go back to theorigin, well, first of all about
myself.
I've been a chiropractor since1978.
So 47 years give or take.
I was introduced to lighttherapy about 26 years ago when
a relatively famous orthopedicsurgeon out of and professor out
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of USC here in Californiasuggested that I shine a light
on somebody and it's going tomake a difference, and I, of
course, rolled my eyes.
By that time I knew everything,thought he was crazy, but he
convinced me to at least try itand it revolutionized my
practice.
And that was with a device thatwas thousands of times weaker
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than what we currently have.
And I can tell you, back thenthe only thing we knew for sure
is that you couldn't hurtsomebody with it.
In fact, in the 50 years ofthis technology being studied,
there's never been a reportedside effect.
So, again, you couldn't hurtsomebody if you tried.
And you know, this medicaldoctor assumed that his fellow
orthopedist would jump on boardwith him using this technology
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as it would get improved, andall that.
But none of them did.
And the reason is because, ifyou have the option in this
country because we're so moneyoriented in the world of health
and well-being if you have theoption of making $20,000 doing a
surgery or not, which way areyou going to go?
You know, when you give peoplethat option, when you give
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people that choice, you know,and so, anyway, I don't want to
get into that.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
That's actually a very important point that you
brought up and you know thispodcast is themed on healthy
living.
We go all over the place withthat, but when money comes into
it and therapies and things thatare offered or suggested by
practitioners, I caution peoplethat generally, if they have
something that they offer that'sgoing to make them a lot over
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something that's going to makethem a little, you can almost
guess which way they're going tolean, and it's not always, but
definitely it's a contributingfactor here.
So I appreciate you bringingthat point up.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
So again, and dating back to 1973 or seven yeah, I
guess it was 72 or 73 when I wasin college and I was motivated
by my at that time.
My girlfriend's mother wassaved by a chiropractor.
I didn't know anything aboutchiropractic and I then did a
lot of research on it and wewere kind of hippies of sort.
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My version of hippie was atthat time was that money was not
going to be my motivatingfactor.
I don't mind making money, butmy motivating factor was helping
.
I know it sounds corny, but Iwanted to help people.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
I'm that kind of hippie myself right now, so I
agree with you to help people.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
I'm that kind of hippie myself right now.
So I agree with you.
So you know.
So I got involved with being achiropractor.
Then 20 something years ago, wegot involved with light therapy
and we're having great resultsand we started off with a class
one device, class two, it wentall the way up to class four
device and then about 13, 14years ago it was discovered that
there was an element of redlight that actually helped with
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weight loss, and you and I bothknow that in this country in
particular, weight loss is huge.
I mean, you know our marketing.
We have marketing companiesthat work with us for our people
.
So we have a lot ofpractitioners all over the
country.
They want to be able to markettheir facility and when we
market anything other thanweight loss we'll get a good
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response.
But when you put weight loss inthe mix it could be 10 times
the kind of return on investmentof marketing that you would get
.
So when I heard that weightloss was going to be part of the
mix, that's when I startedmanufacturing.
That was about 13 years ago, Iwould say, and again I do want
to mention again that red lightnear infrared.
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So when I started all thedevices that I was involved with
was near infrared only, that'sinvisible to the naked eye.
It's a certain wavelength rangethat is unbelievable.
It's my miracle wavelength.
I love it.
But there was another companythat was only doing red light
and they're the ones thatdiscovered and they they
wouldn't have nearly as success.
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We haven't, and I didn't wantto tell them that.
But they loved red light and Isaid, okay, great, but they're
the ones that discovered it wasred light, not near infrared red
light that helped shrink fatcells and it does it healthy.
It doesn't harm anybody.
You know, as I told you, as achiropractor I don't believe in
putting anything in the bodythat doesn't belong there and I
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don't believe in yankinganything out that does belong
there, I mean unless there'sabsolutely no other resort.
But as a chiropractor, we lookat's try natural first.
It doesn't always work, butlet's try it first.
That's all I'm saying.
And now that we've have redlight therapy in the mix, I am
going to startle some of youwith the kind of results that
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we're hearing.
But it takes a certain kind ofmedical grade device that you
you're going to want here.
So, getting back to weight losswe started making I was
involved with lasers.
We started also making pads andhaving very nice results, not
just with with weight loss, butalso with um local healing of a
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shoulder or an elbow or whateverand but, ever and but.
Then the next interestingexperience was COVID.
Now our practitioners and wehad hundreds of them back then
and still do wanted a way oftreating a patient without
physical contact.
They wanted a way, and with thebed you don't need staff even
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so, the person gets in the bedand out of the bed themselves,
they go to the front desk, theywave goodbye because they've
already paid in advance andthey've already scheduled in
advance and it's a very simpleprocess.
So we started delivering ourfirst series of beds several
years ago, again in thebeginning of COVID, with no high
expectations other than itwould be at least somewhat of a
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good substitute of what we hadup to that point again strictly
because our practitioners didn'twant that physical contact or
had that opportunity to not havephysical contact.
So little did we know thatwithin the first month of
delivering the first series ofbeds we were getting startling
results, and I don't know whatelse to say.
And what we've learned since isthat when you bathe the whole
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body at the same time, that'shead to toe, front and back,
left and right, inside and out,as many cells as possible and
near infrared.
We integrated both togetherthat we were getting these
results.
So this guy calls us up, andthey actually did a testimonial
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video on that.
In fact, I'm going to send youthe show notes and that will
include videos that you can sendout to your audience.
Excellent, that are startlingas heck.
So this guy hadCharcot-Marie-Tooth disease,
which is a rare, weirdautoimmune disease with a weird
name, and what it meant for thatguy is that it would be 15
years of pain every day and 15years of basically not being
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able to walk, and he had nothingto lose.
So he got in the bed and thenthey did the testimonial video
with him, and what he wasessentially saying was at the
end was thank you for giving memy life back, because now he's
walking, he has no more pain,and that was after six visits.
Wow.
So was that surprising?
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Absolutely so.
Then we get a guy, and I oftenstart my lectures with this
following notion I want you allto think of yourself as a health
practitioner.
Just think what would you do asa health practitioner.
If someone called you up andsaid I'm having a heart attack
once a week, if not twice a week, and this has been going on for
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over 12 years Wow, what's youranswer to that?
Nobody else had an answer forhim.
They had implanted if you wantto call this an answer, they had
implanted a defibrillator intohis chest 12, 13 years ago, and
every time he would die it wouldzap him back to life.
Right, right, but by the timewe met him, he was dying.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
He was and you can only do that so many times.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Well, I don't know if that's true, because he'd
already had hundreds of them.
Oh really.
Hundreds of heart attacks,hundreds of heart attacks.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
By the time we met him.
But every organ, every gland,his energy was gone.
They were all suffering.
His body was suffering.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
He's damaged every time.
That happens as well.
So there's got to be some kindof a, some kind of a diminished
return on that.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
What I what I didn't understand is later on, when I
was thinking about, is like whydidn't they just do a heart
transplant?
Because this it was a mess?
Well, anyhow, I'm glad theydidn't because the practitioner
his practitioner calls me up andsays look, I got this guy
coming in tomorrow.
He, he's having heart attacksregularly.
I don't even think I shouldtreat him because I don't want
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him having a heart attack.
In my office I said, listen,let's just treat him for five
minutes.
You know that the worst thatwill happen is nothing.
We know that.
Let's try it Five minutes.
That patient went home thatnight that was almost two years
ago has not had a heart attacksince.
He's had more treatment andeverything has come back to life
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the way he describes it.
Is that what I?
He says.
But I wasn't expecting that myenergy is now through the roof
and that everything has comeback.
His blood pressure is normal,His pulse is normal, His energy
is normal.
And, by the way, do you knowhow depressed he would be when
he knew he was dying?
And now how thrilled he is thathe's not dying?
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I can only imagine and thisonly happens when you get in a
high-end, medical grade bed thatwill cover your entire body.
So what I want to now reviewwith everybody is well, how does
this darn thing work, right?
So it really comes down tothere are two completely
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separate mechanisms.
One mechanism on this side isabout fat loss, and that was
discovered, as I said, a littleover a decade ago.
And they didn't know.
You know, every time somethingcomes around often in science
it's by mistake, by accidentthey go Whoa, wait a minute, do
you see what just happened there?
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Like they're going to give youa drug that normally is for some
other thing and it turns out italso gives a guy an erection.
Or the fat loss one is fordiabetics.
But look at all these diabeticsare losing weight.
So let's give them this, theinjections for that.
Well, that's true not only indrugs, but it's also true in the
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world of medical technology aswell, 100%.
So what they finally discoveredwith the fat loss is and in the
beginning we thought well, theysaid that had to do with
liquefying the fat or meltingthe fat or something like that,
but that's not true.
So what they found out is thatthe fat cell wall and this is
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only with red light responds insuch a way, if there's a certain
wavelength of red light, thatthe fat cell wall also
temporarily becomes more porous,and it's just temporary.
So the fat contents some of it,can leak out to the surrounding
tissue and with our uniqueprotocol we move that fat away
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from the fat cells andeventually to the liver for use
or elimination.
So the point being here is thatit's not freezing the fat,
which is destroying the fatcells, or boiling the fat or
lasing the fat or ultrasoniccavitation or radiofrequency.
We're not destroying anything.
What fat cells have is a bad rapand a bad name, and fat cells
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are essential tissue that if youdon't have them you're going to
get sicker.
And they have never done theresearch on that, by the way.
What is the bad effect ofremoving fat or destroying fat
and what is the smart idea ofjust having fat cells that will
release their fat temporarily,allowing us to move it away from
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the fat cells, and it works.
But the fat cells stayabsolutely intact, they don't
get destroyed in any which way,and that works really well for
natural healers, Because you andI both know again as how
important fat loss is in thiscountry, how popular, so if I
can attract somebody to myfacility with fat loss and help
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them with so many other thingsas well.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
It's a win-win 100% and plus, you know, fat is a
battery.
It's an energy storage plusother things.
And, like you said, I mean ifsomebody's really on a fat loss
journey whether it's fasting orwhat you're talking about at
least the energy is gettingreleased and used by the body
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and recycled as it needs to.
When you just blow it up and dosomething with it, we don't
really know what happens, right?
I mean, it's not the entire fatmolecule that's left behind
after you hit it with ultrasoundor freezing it or whatever.
It's something other than that.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Well, actually they're destroying fat cells.
So you don't grow new fat cells.
By the time you're an adult,the fat cells you have are the
ones that you die with.
You don't grow new ones.
So when someone gains weight,the fat cells they have get more
engorged.
You don't grow new ones.
So when you're destroying them,I believe remember again fat
cells are involved with stemcell production, hormone
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production.
They do store fat, but theyalso store toxins.
So they're essential to thebody and I'm not interested in
destroying or removing them.
So we're going to move thataside.
Fat cells and fat loss, that'sfun.
But I'm going to move over tothe miracle side just for a
moment.
And when I say miracles, I knowit doesn't sound very
scientific to you, but if youasked Arnett, who was having the
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regular heart attacks, yeah, hewould put it in the miracles
category.
Or if you talk to Joey, who had15 years of Charcot-Marie-Tooth
disease and couldn't walk andwas in pain every day, yeah, he
would be looking at that as amiracle.
As a matter of fact, one thingthat, as a chiropractor and as a
hippie, what I loved hearingwas thank you for giving me my
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life back, and we would hearthat from time to time as a
chiropractor, but now with thered light therapy we're hearing
it a lot more often.
I've never heard it so often.
So now what I want to do is Iwant to go over the mechanism of
how does this work for thehealing aspect?
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And with the fat loss, that'smostly red light.
With the healing, that's mostlynear infrared.
So as long as we're on thissubject, let's just talk about
the word infrared, infrared.
Really there's no such word asjust infrared, so it's either
far infrared or near infrared.
If you say infrared, most bydefault they're.
Really most people are talkingabout far infrared, not the
miracle wavelength of nearinfrared.
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Far infrared's fun it's goingto get you heat.
So when people talk about anytype of therapy and heat, it's a
problem.
See, heat dilates blood vessels, brings more fluid to the
surface and that will block thepenetration of our near-infrared
.
So we want to have a devicethat's really strong without
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heat.
So one would never mixfar-infrared in our bed because
that would be a problem.
You wouldn't add vibration,because that would also bring
more fluid to the surface andget the person more flush and
red.
You don't want any of that stuff.
You don't want anything.
You want just red light therapy, which is again the integration
of red and near infrared, andonly that.
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So let's get back to how itworks.
And again, they didn't know.
Remember I told you 26 yearsago when I started with red
light therapy, the only thing weknew for sure is it couldn't
hurt.
We didn't nobody.
They didn't really know how itworked.
And at the same time, I'm goingto do a little educational stuff
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here, so don't get get mad atme.
I want you guys to rememberthis word, mitochondria, and I'm
sure you've heard of it, andwhen I went to school, we
learned that there was onemitochondria in every cell of
your body.
And that turns out to not betrue.
As a matter of fact, the heart,which has the highest demand
for energy and that's whatmitochondria is all about, and
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I'll come back to what themitochondria does in a second.
But the heart that has thehighest demand for energy has
over 5,000 mitochondria in eachcell.
Wow, the mitochondria is soprevalent in your body and you
can look this up it makes up 10%of your body weight.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
And we-.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
That's actually foreign DNA.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Right, it's not.
It's a different, it's a colonyof different organism.
Really, that's in your own cell.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Well, so let's talk about what the mitochondria is.
It's called an organelle whichis smaller than any of these
other processes that are goingon in your body.
Correct, so the mitochondria isin each cell.
And then what is themitochondria?
It's the powerhouse of yourbody.
It's the reason why you breatheoxygen and eat food.
It produces the energy currencyof the body.
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So without the mitochondriadoing its thing, then you will
not have the energy to heal, youwon't have the energy to do
most anything and you willeventually lead to disease and
eventually to death.
And so what are we all about?
We're about making themitochondria as effective and
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healthy as possible.
So what the mitochondria doesis it produces this energy
currency called ATP, and that'swhat the body can use throughout
the body.
It's used for all the thingsI'm describing.
Every mechanism that happens inyour body, every biochemical
process that happens in yourbody, it's all about ATP, and if
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you have a dysfunctional ATPsystem, it will eventually lead
to disease and death, and whatwe can do is reverse that.
Now, how does that happen?
And you know what it's aboutSunlight.
It makes sense.
You know, when you look outyour window and see trees and
grass, they're green.
You know why?
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Because of sunlight, and they'dbe dead without sunlight.
And so the sun is as effectiveon plants and trees as it is on
us.
It has a huge effect on us aswell, and what the sun does is
well.
What your body has is what wecall chromophores.
These are cells or tissues inyour body that are sensitive to
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light, to sunlight.
This is why hundreds of yearsago, people were told to go out
in the sun, and it will helpheal.
Now imagine taking thatsunlight and multiplying it by
thousands and thousands of timesand then driving it to
someone's body with zero sideeffects.
In the 50 years this stuff hasbeen studied, there's never been
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a recorded side effect.
You couldn't again hurt anybodyif you tried side effect.
You couldn't again hurt anybodyif you tried.
This is why it's so safe.
It's nuts that everybody that'slistening to me has not gotten
in the bed at least six times,and if you haven't, I'm going to
tell you why.
Ask me that question later, joe.
Okay, why hasn't everybody beentold about red light therapy?
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Sure, and what you want againis full body coverage, so let's
continue.
In the mitochondria is somewhathidden.
That they didn't know about isan enzyme that is also sensitive
to light.
It's also a chromophore.
It is sensitive to certainlight waves and when you
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stimulate that enzyme which iscalled cytochrome C oxidase,
when you stimulate thecytochrome C oxidase with the
light, it brings themitochondria back to life.
Nice and so full circlesunlight, mitochondria,
cytochrome C oxidase, atpproduction.
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And now that they know this andI told you how prevalent
mitochondria in your body thereare books on mitochondria
dysfunction and there's adisease called mitochondria
dysfunction.
This is relatively newunderstanding and now we have an
answer for that, just like wehave an answer for the guy with
the heart attacks.
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We have an answer for peoplewho have this, have a
dysfunctional mitochondrialsystem and and what is thought
is that everybody's going towind up with mitochondria that's
not going to be functioning aswell as a person gets older.
And now we can see how we canreverse that.
Because remember what?
What I tell my patients andI've had 12 practices for 40
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something years and thosethousands of patients and what I
would try to tell all of themis that health and well-being is
like a candle that burns reallybright from the beginning all
the ways to the end and thensputters out and dies.
Right, that's what your lifeshould be like, and not that the
last 20 years of your life.
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You're in a wheelchair, youcan't feed yourself, you can't
wipe yourself, you can't batheyourself and you're fully
dependent on others.
And you're immobile.
You're not an amateur.
You cannot get in a car and godrive out, or you might not even
be lucid.
So you want to have.
It's not about living longer, Idon't mind that but it's about
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highest quality of life that youcan have for as long as you can
have.
I agree with that 100%, andthat's what it's about, and the
red light therapy is all aboutthat.
So what should you be lookingfor?
Red light therapy?
I don't mind a helmet or a maskor a pad that goes over your
shoulder.
We did all of that and we hadnice results.
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At the time, we thought theywere amazing results.
The truth of the matter is,when we accidentally were forced
to build the bed and now seethese unbelievable results, now
we realize that you wantsomething that's going to bathe
your entire body at the sametime.
So we're talking about dementiaand Parkinson's and Alzheimer's
.
We're talking about multiplesclerosis and all the autoimmune
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diseases.
We're talking about Lymedisease.
We're talking about shingles.
We're talking about any skincondition, including psoriasis,
eczema and all that stuff.
You've got to get in the bed.
And so someone says well, howam I going to know if it works
for me?
And it takes six visits.
And I'm putting the six fingersup I know no one sees me, but I
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feel compelled.
It's six visits Now.
Each visit is 12 minutes and adose.
So a dose is 12 minutes.
That's three times a week fortwo weeks.
At the end of the six weeks,your practitioner will be
sitting down with you and sayinghey, this is where you were
when we started, so this iswhere we are now.
And some people, like that guythat was having heart attack, he
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noticed the difference thefirst day, the one visit, when
Steve, who had 40 years of Lymedisease so he contracted Lyme
disease when he was 12.
It ruined his childhood, itruined his education, it ruined
his social life and, of course,it ruined his lack of career and
he was not happy, I don't knowhow else to describe it.
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He was pretty depressed abouthis life.
And so we meet him 40 yearslater, 50-something years old,
and he gets in one of our bedsand then gets out of one of our
beds and he notices nodifference at all and he just
poo-poos this as a bunch ofhogwash.
However, five hours later, andever since, it's totally changed
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his life.
I'm not going to even sayanything else about it, because
I'm going to send you thesevideos that you're more than
welcome to share with youraudience.
I would love for you guys towatch.
That guy's name is Steve.
You want to watch Joey's videoabout?
I mean, watch them all if youwant, and there are two kinds of
videos in here.
There are patient videos andthere are practitioner videos,
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because as a business, thisthing's remarkable.
I just talked to this lady.
She can't travel the distanceto the office that's closest to
her, so she's decided to buy onefor her home herself, and it's
expensive.
I'm not going to sit here andtell you that this is low-end.
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This is the highest-end devicethat will give you the maximum
kind of results, but what shesaid to me was that hold on.
I just want to finish this.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
There are a lot of practitioners that listen to
this podcast and I want to makesure I have time to let people
understand.
But what are we talking aboutas an investment for something
like this?
Speaker 2 (26:09):
So if somebody wanted to buy it, it leases for $1,400
a month.
Okay, but as a business,nobody's making less than 10
times return on their investment.
Nice, it's simple.
Not only that, we include 32things with the purchase,
including the basic training,advanced training, the coaching,
all the forms, files, folders,videos, everything that a person
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is going to need to be highlysuccessful in their business.
However, if they want to buyjust for their home, they're not
going to need all the marketingstuff and all that, so it can
be at a lower price.
And then there's a whole bunchof people who just want to try
out the bed.
So what I recommend that peopledo is go to trifectalightcom.
Trifecta has to do with thetriple effect, like winning at
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the racetrack the triple effectof face really skin, fat and
healing.
Face, fat and healing.
It used to be face, but when wecreated the bed, we realized,
wait a minute, it's the skinfrom head to toe, so it's skin.
When we created the bed, werealized, wait a minute, it's
the skin from head to toe, soit's skin, fat and healing.
And that includes all the men'shealth, women's health,
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athletes.
In fact, I'm going to go overathletes in a second, but I just
want to finish that thought ofgetting somebody to use the bed.
It's only six visits.
At the end of those six visitsyou should see some change.
Six visits At the end of thosesix visits, you should see some
change.
Now, if you have horrific,there are people that have
horrific, tragic issues likehorrible Parkinson's.
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I have one patient withterrible Parkinson's and he
can't communicate.
You know he can barely functionat all, but he's taking these
very powerful drugs that haveside effects that are scary.
But those drugs give him about20 minutes a day of something
close to normalcy, which meanshe could now communicate for 20
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minutes a day and and just, itactually almost makes it worse
because he'd get a glimpse ofwhat life could be if he could
get it all day long.
So he started using our bed andhe found that 20 minutes,
expanding to 30 minutes and then40 minutes and then an hour and
other things.
So, depending upon how severeyour condition is, I don't know
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what kind of change you'll seeafter six visits.
It might be phenomenal, itmight be subtle, but almost
everybody I've spoken to, aftersix visits they're going to see
a change.
So you go to the websitetrifectalightcom.
You go to the contact us pageand you'll see there we're on
the left side.
I believe it's on the left sideit's want to try out for as a
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patient and we'll find alocation closest to you.
We can't list all of ourlocations for because of privacy
issues, so we'll find theclosest location and we have
hundreds throughout the countryand then on the right side it's.
Are you interested in possiblyeven buying something like this?
Now here's the next subject Iwant to go over is what does it
cost to be sick?
People who are not sick, theydon't know what it costs to be
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sick.
As a matter of fact, thetypical 30-year-old is not
thinking about what is theirlife going to be when they're 70
.
If you were to talk to your70-year-old self, if you're 30
years old, I bet you your70-year, your 70 year old self,
if you're 30 years old, I betyou to your 70 year old self
would say please take bettercare, because I don't wind up,
wind up sick and and you know adecrepit and and whatever you
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know and you know I'm 72 yearsold and I know I'm getting older
.
There's some things I I don'tjump down the stairs like I used
to.
I don't do it, but I feel likeI'm going to age.
I tell my patients about aging,gracefully, can't stop you from
aging.
That's the universal thing.
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We cannot stop.
There's nothing we've been ableto do.
But we call the bed thefountain of youth in a sense,
because we actually see people,feel, look and are kind of
younger, not chronologically butbiologically.
So those people will go to thewebsite.
They'll tell us their closestlocation or what their location
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is.
We'll find a location closestto them.
So that's trifecta lightcom,the other thing.
I wrote the book on red lighttherapy.
So if you get a chance theother thing I wrote the book on
red light therapy.
So if you get a chance, if youreally want to study this or
know it pretty well, go toAmazoncom and just put in the
word illuminated healing andyou'll find my book and my name
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is Dr Carl Rothschild.
So you can also just put in thename Carl Rothschild.
But the name Rothschild isinfamous, so you'll get all
kinds of I mean I, you know Isometimes had to remove the
comments on some of the videosthat I produced because people
would write well, he's aRothschild.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
I don't want to have anything to do with you.
Yeah, the Illuminati guy right.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
What you think.
Yeah, you go.
You know, the Rothschildscontrol the world.
Well, I'm not one of those.
Control the world?
Well, I'm not one of those.
So just go to IlluminatedHealing.
You go to the websitetrifectalightcom, go to
Illuminated Healing, but I'lltell you there's a beautiful
YouTube channel that we have andit's called.
If you go to YouTube, put inthe word trifecta light official
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, one word and I'm telling youit's got videos on there that
are absolutely gorgeous and itwill give you a whole array of
different approaches andunderstanding about red light
therapy.
And so now, why is red lighttherapy not known to everybody
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and anybody?
So before I even answer that,catch you guys on the edge of
your seat.
So before I even answer that,catch you guys on the edge of
your seat.
I want you to remember also ourwonderful website called Google
Scholar, and it's Google, butit's better than Google.
So you just go to Google andput in the word Google Scholar
(31:59):
and you'll find it.
It's scholargooglecom.
Go to scholargooglecom, or justgo to Google and put in the
word Google Scholar, and thenyou'll see something that looks
just like Google but it's better.
And then put in the word thephrase red light therapy, and
don't be surprised when you seeover three and a half million
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entries of double blind studies,research papers, articles and
all kinds of stuff about redlight therapy, and so you want
to know if it can help you.
So you put in red light therapy, lupus, red light therapy,
psoriasis, eczema I don't carewhatever you put in there liver,
thyroid and see the manyhundreds of different articles
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and studies that have been done.
So the next question is whyisn't this everywhere?
Why isn't it at a wound center?
For example, we had a lady thathad third degree burns and she
was guaranteed by the woundcenter permanent scarring, six
months of pain, six months ofdrugs and by the second week of
using our bed she was out ofpain.
And by the second week of usingher bed she was out of pain and
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by the end of the third week itwas gone, gone.
And so why isn't that bed inevery wound center?
And again, I'm not a socialist,but having a capitalistic system
for healing is nuts.
So you go to a doctor and hecan make $20,000 this way or
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$1,000 this way.
Which way is he going to go?
Let's say, pretend they're bothequal, or maybe one's better
than the other.
Which way is people?
It's too tempting A medicaldoctor.
You're guaranteed.
If you graduate as a medicaldoctor, you're pretty much
guaranteed to become amillionaire.
And why is that?
I don't blame them.
I'm not telling people not tomake money, but maybe we're
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putting the wrong opportunitiesin front of these people and
maybe it shouldn't be.
You know, that's why I meanpeople laugh at socialized
medicine, but when I talk toother countries and I do
podcasts all over the world andwhen I talk to these people,
they don't even get it when myconversation with them is well,
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why isn't red light everywhere?
It's because it doesn't makeyou as much money as cutting and
as drugs.
And the bottom line is that Iwant people to make money.
I'm not offering an opportunityfor them to not make money, but
maybe we could also considerthe person's well-being and
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health.
And this is the exciting thingabout this new.
I mean, I'm not going to getpolitical.
I don't care if you're aRepublican or a Democrat, but
RFK Jr has brought thepossibilities to all of us
because, unless he's full ofcrap.
He said that he was going tochange the focus of well-being
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in this country to well-beingrather than profit.
Again, people should make aprofit.
I'm not asking people to doanything for free free but maybe
that they should not be onlythinking about the profit and
maybe taking into considerationthe fact that we can do things
that don't make as much moneybut are very healing.
And again, I want to just finishwith a couple of things.
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One, side effects zero.
In the 50 years this technologyhas been studied, there's never
been a recorded side effect.
But the second thing that Ihaven't gone over with you is
contraindications.
Who should not get in the bed?
And really there are nocontraindications.
But I started it off withreally there are not.
(35:38):
So don't listen to that phrasethat there are no
contraindications, because I'mgoing to give you legal
contraindications.
Phrase that there are nocontraindications because I'm
going to give you legalcontraindications.
Sure, one of those legalcontraindications is a pregnant
woman.
Okay, is the light dangerous tothe mother of fetus?
No, it'll help her and thefetus tremendously.
But if that baby comes outanything other than perfect,
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they're going to want to suepeople.
And so I tell everyone let'snot be in that neighborhood the
day after she delivers.
That's a perfect candidate foryou to treat the heck out of her
, especially after C-section, ifthey get in this bed, they're
going to recover so much quicker, the scarring is going to be
reduced dramatically and they'regoing to be extremely grateful.
(36:23):
So I just want to also finish upwith what you should be looking
for.
Again, I don't mind helmets, Idon't mind masks.
They're fine, they're fun,great.
But if you're looking for afull body bed and when I started
with beds there was none, andyou know when we started
management there was reallylittle Now, every day somebody
comes out with another junk fromChina, and what am I supposed
to do with that?
(36:44):
So what you want to look for ishigh-grade, medical-grade lights
that are very strong but don'tget hot.
Heat is the enemy.
I already told you that.
That dilates blood vessels.
It'll block the penetration oflight, and all the cheaper
lights out there get hot.
Ours is very strong withoutgetting hot.
Again, if you have heat, it'scounterproductive because you're
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going to wind up blocking thepenetration of your light.
You want the light to penetrateas deep as possible, so you want
what we coined the phrase 26something years ago called cold
laser or cold therapy.
Not that lights literally gotcold, but they didn't get hot.
That's the essence.
So you want cold, but theydidn't get hot.
That's the essence.
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So you want very strong lightsthat don't get hot.
You want the canopy that comesdown on the person to come right
onto the person not the weightof it, but it will approximate
their body.
Because as you come away fromthe, as the light comes away
from the person's body, you losepower exponentially.
You want the lights as close tothe body as possible, and why
the cheaper beds and cheaperequipment can't do that is
because their lights are too hot.
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So you want to be able to bringthe lights as close to the
possible.
You want high-end medical gradethat can get very strong
without being hot.
And then the last thing is thatyou want to be able to pulse
the wave.
Now, pulsing the wave servestwo purposes.
One, it dissipates any otherheat, even more heat, because
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between each of the impulses youcan dissipate some of that
additional heat, so you can haveeven more power.
But even more importantly isresonating frequencies, and some
of you people are familiar withhealing frequencies, where you
can have a certain frequencythat will resonate with
different tissues in the body.
My favorite frequency is 528.
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That's the universal healingfrequency.
And so we have the bed haslight frequency.
We include a sound generatorand we include a vibratory
device.
And the vibratory device isdone after the lights because
the vibration itself will bringmore fluid to the surface and we
don't want that.
So it goes while they're in thebed they're hearing the sound
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frequency going on, they'regetting light frequency from the
bed and then they get off thebed to get on the whole body
vibrational device and then theyhave that frequency as well.
So the kind of level of successwe have with fat loss, with
healing with the face and skinand all that is pretty
remarkable.
And with all the training andall the coaching we also include
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a coach With all that and allthe files, folders, videos and
forms that everyone and anyonewould need, the results have
been that we have a very highsuccess rate with what we call
business in a box.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
Well, you have most definitely piqued my interest,
and I've been working with andstudying natural healing
modalities for 40 years myself,and this is really the first
time that this particular nearinfrared technology has really
been presented to me this way.
So I'm looking forward togetting onto your website and
(39:52):
taking a look and seeing, and,who knows, where we go from here
and Joe do me a favor, send meyour address.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
I will, and I'll send you a copy of my book beautiful
.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
I appreciate it.
I will read it and you know if,if it works out, maybe we'll
have a further conversation.
I know you did a beautifulpresentation in a quick way.
Sometimes guests like to comeback and go deep into some
topics.
We'll see where we go.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
Okay, it's been a pleasure Okay.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Absolutely Well.
Thank you so much, Dr CarlRothschild and not the bad
Rothschild, as we said and wewill thank everybody for your
support listening to the show.
And, Carl, we will see you nexttime.
Thank you All right.
Thanks a lot, All right.
Well, hello and welcome back to the Healthy
Living Podcast.
I'm your host, joe Grumbine,and today we have a very special
guest joining us, dr CarlRothschild.
And Dr Rothschild is apioneering advocate of red light
therapy and we've talked aboutthat on the show already a
little bit, already a little bit, and we're going to talk about
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his story and he's got someproducts that he offers and
we're going to just jump righton into it.
So, dr Rothschild, why don'tyou tell us a little bit about
first, what is red light therapy?
A lot of people don't have anyidea.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
So, first of all, thank you for having me here.
Um, as far as what is red lighttherapy?
When I when I use the term redlight therapy, I'm talking about
the combination of red lightand near infrared.
So near infrared is invisibleto the naked eye.
But the results?
We were the first company,really 12, 13, maybe even 14
(01:03):
years ago, to integrate red andnear infrared.
So, if I can go back to theorigin, well, first of all about
myself.
I've been a chiropractor since1978.
So 47 years give or take.
I was introduced to lighttherapy about 26 years ago when
a relatively famous orthopedicsurgeon out of and professor out
(01:24):
of USC here in Californiasuggested that I shine a light
on somebody and it's going tomake a difference, and I, of
course, rolled my eyes.
By that time I knew everything,thought he was crazy, but he
convinced me to at least try itand it revolutionized my
practice.
And that was with a device thatwas thousands of times weaker
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than what we currently have.
And I can tell you, back thenthe only thing we knew for sure
is that you couldn't hurtsomebody with it.
In fact, in the 50 years ofthis technology being studied,
there's never been a reportedside effect.
So, again, you couldn't hurtsomebody if you tried.
And you know, this medicaldoctor assumed that his fellow
orthopedist would jump on boardwith him using this technology
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as it would get improved, andall that.
But none of them did.
And the reason is because, ifyou have the option in this
country because we're so moneyoriented in the world of health
and well-being if you have theoption of making $20,000 doing a
surgery or not, which way areyou going to go?
You know, when you give peoplethat option, when you give
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people that choice, you know,and so, anyway, I don't want to
get into that.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
That's actually a very important point that you
brought up and you know thispodcast is themed on healthy
living.
We go all over the place withthat, but when money comes into
it and therapies and things thatare offered or suggested by
practitioners, I caution peoplethat generally, if they have
something that they offer that'sgoing to make them a lot over
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something that's going to makethem a little, you can almost
guess which way they're going tolean, and it's not always, but
definitely it's a contributingfactor here.
So I appreciate you bringingthat point up.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
So again, and dating back to 1973 or seven yeah, I
guess it was 72 or 73 when I wasin college and I was motivated
by my at that time.
My girlfriend's mother wassaved by a chiropractor.
I didn't know anything aboutchiropractic and I then did a
lot of research on it and wewere kind of hippies of sort.
(03:28):
My version of hippie was atthat time was that money was not
going to be my motivatingfactor.
I don't mind making money, butmy motivating factor was helping
.
I know it sounds corny, but Iwanted to help people.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
I'm that kind of hippie myself right now, so I
agree with you to help people.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
I'm that kind of hippie myself right now.
So I agree with you.
So you know.
So I got involved with being achiropractor.
Then 20 something years ago, wegot involved with light therapy
and we're having great resultsand we started off with a class
one device, class two, it wentall the way up to class four
device and then about 13, 14years ago it was discovered that
there was an element of redlight that actually helped with
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weight loss, and you and I bothknow that in this country in
particular, weight loss is huge.
I mean, you know our marketing.
We have marketing companiesthat work with us for our people
.
So we have a lot ofpractitioners all over the
country.
They want to be able to markettheir facility and when we
market anything other thanweight loss we'll get a good
(04:29):
response.
But when you put weight loss inthe mix it could be 10 times
the kind of return on investmentof marketing that you would get
.
So when I heard that weightloss was going to be part of the
mix, that's when I startedmanufacturing.
That was about 13 years ago, Iwould say, and again I do want
to mention again that red lightnear infrared.
(04:50):
So when I started all thedevices that I was involved with
was near infrared only, that'sinvisible to the naked eye.
It's a certain wavelength rangethat is unbelievable.
It's my miracle wavelength.
I love it.
But there was another companythat was only doing red light
and they're the ones thatdiscovered and they they
wouldn't have nearly as success.
(05:11):
We haven't, and I didn't wantto tell them that.
But they loved red light and Isaid, okay, great, but they're
the ones that discovered it wasred light, not near infrared red
light that helped shrink fatcells and it does it healthy.
It doesn't harm anybody.
You know, as I told you, as achiropractor I don't believe in
putting anything in the bodythat doesn't belong there and I
(05:34):
don't believe in yankinganything out that does belong
there, I mean unless there'sabsolutely no other resort.
But as a chiropractor, we lookat's try natural first.
It doesn't always work, butlet's try it first.
That's all I'm saying.
And now that we've have redlight therapy in the mix, I am
going to startle some of youwith the kind of results that
(05:56):
we're hearing.
But it takes a certain kind ofmedical grade device that you
you're going to want here.
So, getting back to weight losswe started making I was
involved with lasers.
We started also making pads andhaving very nice results, not
just with with weight loss, butalso with um local healing of a
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shoulder or an elbow or whateverand but, ever and but.
Then the next interestingexperience was COVID.
Now our practitioners and wehad hundreds of them back then
and still do wanted a way oftreating a patient without
physical contact.
They wanted a way, and with thebed you don't need staff even
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so, the person gets in the bedand out of the bed themselves,
they go to the front desk, theywave goodbye because they've
already paid in advance andthey've already scheduled in
advance and it's a very simpleprocess.
So we started delivering ourfirst series of beds several
years ago, again in thebeginning of COVID, with no high
expectations other than itwould be at least somewhat of a
(07:04):
good substitute of what we hadup to that point again strictly
because our practitioners didn'twant that physical contact or
had that opportunity to not havephysical contact.
So little did we know thatwithin the first month of
delivering the first series ofbeds we were getting startling
results, and I don't know whatelse to say.
And what we've learned since isthat when you bathe the whole
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body at the same time, that'shead to toe, front and back,
left and right, inside and out,as many cells as possible and
near infrared.
We integrated both togetherthat we were getting these
results.
So this guy calls us up, andthey actually did a testimonial
(07:51):
video on that.
In fact, I'm going to send youthe show notes and that will
include videos that you can sendout to your audience.
Excellent, that are startlingas heck.
So this guy hadCharcot-Marie-Tooth disease,
which is a rare, weirdautoimmune disease with a weird
name, and what it meant for thatguy is that it would be 15
years of pain every day and 15years of basically not being
(08:15):
able to walk, and he had nothingto lose.
So he got in the bed and thenthey did the testimonial video
with him, and what he wasessentially saying was at the
end was thank you for giving memy life back, because now he's
walking, he has no more pain,and that was after six visits.
Wow.
So was that surprising?
(08:36):
Absolutely so.
Then we get a guy, and I oftenstart my lectures with this
following notion I want you allto think of yourself as a health
practitioner.
Just think what would you do asa health practitioner.
If someone called you up andsaid I'm having a heart attack
once a week, if not twice a week, and this has been going on for
(08:59):
over 12 years Wow, what's youranswer to that?
Nobody else had an answer forhim.
They had implanted if you wantto call this an answer, they had
implanted a defibrillator intohis chest 12, 13 years ago, and
every time he would die it wouldzap him back to life.
Right, right, but by the timewe met him, he was dying.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
He was and you can only do that so many times.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Well, I don't know if that's true, because he'd
already had hundreds of them.
Oh really.
Hundreds of heart attacks,hundreds of heart attacks.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
By the time we met him.
But every organ, every gland,his energy was gone.
They were all suffering.
His body was suffering.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
He's damaged every time.
That happens as well.
So there's got to be some kindof a, some kind of a diminished
return on that.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
What I what I didn't understand is later on, when I
was thinking about, is like whydidn't they just do a heart
transplant?
Because this it was a mess?
Well, anyhow, I'm glad theydidn't because the practitioner
his practitioner calls me up andsays look, I got this guy
coming in tomorrow.
He, he's having heart attacksregularly.
I don't even think I shouldtreat him because I don't want
(10:08):
him having a heart attack.
In my office I said, listen,let's just treat him for five
minutes.
You know that the worst thatwill happen is nothing.
We know that.
Let's try it Five minutes.
That patient went home thatnight that was almost two years
ago has not had a heart attacksince.
He's had more treatment andeverything has come back to life
(10:29):
the way he describes it.
Is that what I?
He says.
But I wasn't expecting that myenergy is now through the roof
and that everything has comeback.
His blood pressure is normal,His pulse is normal, His energy
is normal.
And, by the way, do you knowhow depressed he would be when
he knew he was dying?
And now how thrilled he is thathe's not dying?
(10:50):
I can only imagine and thisonly happens when you get in a
high-end, medical grade bed thatwill cover your entire body.
So what I want to now reviewwith everybody is well, how does
this darn thing work, right?
So it really comes down tothere are two completely
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separate mechanisms.
One mechanism on this side isabout fat loss, and that was
discovered, as I said, a littleover a decade ago.
And they didn't know.
You know, every time somethingcomes around often in science
it's by mistake, by accidentthey go Whoa, wait a minute, do
you see what just happened there?
(11:35):
Like they're going to give youa drug that normally is for some
other thing and it turns out italso gives a guy an erection.
Or the fat loss one is fordiabetics.
But look at all these diabeticsare losing weight.
So let's give them this, theinjections for that.
Well, that's true not only indrugs, but it's also true in the
(11:55):
world of medical technology aswell, 100%.
So what they finally discoveredwith the fat loss is and in the
beginning we thought well, theysaid that had to do with
liquefying the fat or meltingthe fat or something like that,
but that's not true.
So what they found out is thatthe fat cell wall and this is
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only with red light responds insuch a way, if there's a certain
wavelength of red light, thatthe fat cell wall also
temporarily becomes more porous,and it's just temporary.
So the fat contents some of it,can leak out to the surrounding
tissue and with our uniqueprotocol we move that fat away
(12:39):
from the fat cells andeventually to the liver for use
or elimination.
So the point being here is thatit's not freezing the fat,
which is destroying the fatcells, or boiling the fat or
lasing the fat or ultrasoniccavitation or radiofrequency.
We're not destroying anything.
What fat cells have is a bad rapand a bad name, and fat cells
(13:04):
are essential tissue that if youdon't have them you're going to
get sicker.
And they have never done theresearch on that, by the way.
What is the bad effect ofremoving fat or destroying fat
and what is the smart idea ofjust having fat cells that will
release their fat temporarily,allowing us to move it away from
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the fat cells, and it works.
But the fat cells stayabsolutely intact, they don't
get destroyed in any which way,and that works really well for
natural healers, Because you andI both know again as how
important fat loss is in thiscountry, how popular, so if I
can attract somebody to myfacility with fat loss and help
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them with so many other thingsas well.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
It's a win-win 100% and plus, you know, fat is a
battery.
It's an energy storage plusother things.
And, like you said, I mean ifsomebody's really on a fat loss
journey whether it's fasting orwhat you're talking about at
least the energy is gettingreleased and used by the body
(14:10):
and recycled as it needs to.
When you just blow it up and dosomething with it, we don't
really know what happens, right?
I mean, it's not the entire fatmolecule that's left behind
after you hit it with ultrasoundor freezing it or whatever.
It's something other than that.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Well, actually they're destroying fat cells.
So you don't grow new fat cells.
By the time you're an adult,the fat cells you have are the
ones that you die with.
You don't grow new ones.
So when someone gains weight,the fat cells they have get more
engorged.
You don't grow new ones.
So when you're destroying them,I believe remember again fat
cells are involved with stemcell production, hormone
(14:49):
production.
They do store fat, but theyalso store toxins.
So they're essential to thebody and I'm not interested in
destroying or removing them.
So we're going to move thataside.
Fat cells and fat loss, that'sfun.
But I'm going to move over tothe miracle side just for a
moment.
And when I say miracles, I knowit doesn't sound very
scientific to you, but if youasked Arnett, who was having the
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regular heart attacks, yeah, hewould put it in the miracles
category.
Or if you talk to Joey, who had15 years of Charcot-Marie-Tooth
disease and couldn't walk andwas in pain every day, yeah, he
would be looking at that as amiracle.
As a matter of fact, one thingthat, as a chiropractor and as a
hippie, what I loved hearingwas thank you for giving me my
(15:34):
life back, and we would hearthat from time to time as a
chiropractor, but now with thered light therapy we're hearing
it a lot more often.
I've never heard it so often.
So now what I want to do is Iwant to go over the mechanism of
how does this work for thehealing aspect?
(15:56):
And with the fat loss, that'smostly red light.
With the healing, that's mostlynear infrared.
So as long as we're on thissubject, let's just talk about
the word infrared, infrared.
Really there's no such word asjust infrared, so it's either
far infrared or near infrared.
If you say infrared, most bydefault they're.
Really most people are talkingabout far infrared, not the
miracle wavelength of nearinfrared.
(16:17):
Far infrared's fun it's goingto get you heat.
So when people talk about anytype of therapy and heat, it's a
problem.
See, heat dilates blood vessels, brings more fluid to the
surface and that will block thepenetration of our near-infrared
.
So we want to have a devicethat's really strong without
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heat.
So one would never mixfar-infrared in our bed because
that would be a problem.
You wouldn't add vibration,because that would also bring
more fluid to the surface andget the person more flush and
red.
You don't want any of that stuff.
You don't want anything.
You want just red light therapy, which is again the integration
of red and near infrared, andonly that.
(16:58):
So let's get back to how itworks.
And again, they didn't know.
Remember I told you 26 yearsago when I started with red
light therapy, the only thing weknew for sure is it couldn't
hurt.
We didn't nobody.
They didn't really know how itworked.
And at the same time, I'm goingto do a little educational stuff
(17:19):
here, so don't get get mad atme.
I want you guys to rememberthis word, mitochondria, and I'm
sure you've heard of it, andwhen I went to school, we
learned that there was onemitochondria in every cell of
your body.
And that turns out to not betrue.
As a matter of fact, the heart,which has the highest demand
for energy and that's whatmitochondria is all about, and
(17:40):
I'll come back to what themitochondria does in a second.
But the heart that has thehighest demand for energy has
over 5,000 mitochondria in eachcell.
Wow, the mitochondria is soprevalent in your body and you
can look this up it makes up 10%of your body weight.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
And we-.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
That's actually foreign DNA.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Right, it's not.
It's a different, it's a colonyof different organism.
Really, that's in your own cell.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Well, so let's talk about what the mitochondria is.
It's called an organelle whichis smaller than any of these
other processes that are goingon in your body.
Correct, so the mitochondria isin each cell.
And then what is themitochondria?
It's the powerhouse of yourbody.
It's the reason why you breatheoxygen and eat food.
It produces the energy currencyof the body.
(18:34):
So without the mitochondriadoing its thing, then you will
not have the energy to heal, youwon't have the energy to do
most anything and you willeventually lead to disease and
eventually to death.
And so what are we all about?
We're about making themitochondria as effective and
(18:55):
healthy as possible.
So what the mitochondria doesis it produces this energy
currency called ATP, and that'swhat the body can use throughout
the body.
It's used for all the thingsI'm describing.
Every mechanism that happens inyour body, every biochemical
process that happens in yourbody, it's all about ATP, and if
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you have a dysfunctional ATPsystem, it will eventually lead
to disease and death, and whatwe can do is reverse that.
Now, how does that happen?
And you know what it's aboutSunlight.
It makes sense.
You know, when you look outyour window and see trees and
grass, they're green.
You know why?
(19:37):
Because of sunlight, and they'dbe dead without sunlight.
And so the sun is as effectiveon plants and trees as it is on
us.
It has a huge effect on us aswell, and what the sun does is
well.
What your body has is what wecall chromophores.
These are cells or tissues inyour body that are sensitive to
(20:01):
light, to sunlight.
This is why hundreds of yearsago, people were told to go out
in the sun, and it will helpheal.
Now imagine taking thatsunlight and multiplying it by
thousands and thousands of timesand then driving it to
someone's body with zero sideeffects.
In the 50 years this stuff hasbeen studied, there's never been
(20:23):
a recorded side effect.
You couldn't again hurt anybodyif you tried side effect.
You couldn't again hurt anybodyif you tried.
This is why it's so safe.
It's nuts that everybody that'slistening to me has not gotten
in the bed at least six times,and if you haven't, I'm going to
tell you why.
Ask me that question later, joe.
Okay, why hasn't everybody beentold about red light therapy?
(20:46):
Sure, and what you want againis full body coverage, so let's
continue.
In the mitochondria is somewhathidden.
That they didn't know about isan enzyme that is also sensitive
to light.
It's also a chromophore.
It is sensitive to certainlight waves and when you
(21:08):
stimulate that enzyme which iscalled cytochrome C oxidase,
when you stimulate thecytochrome C oxidase with the
light, it brings themitochondria back to life.
Nice and so full circlesunlight, mitochondria,
cytochrome C oxidase, atpproduction.
(21:30):
And now that they know this andI told you how prevalent
mitochondria in your body thereare books on mitochondria
dysfunction and there's adisease called mitochondria
dysfunction.
This is relatively newunderstanding and now we have an
answer for that, just like wehave an answer for the guy with
the heart attacks.
(21:51):
We have an answer for peoplewho have this, have a
dysfunctional mitochondrialsystem and and what is thought
is that everybody's going towind up with mitochondria that's
not going to be functioning aswell as a person gets older.
And now we can see how we canreverse that.
Because remember what?
What I tell my patients andI've had 12 practices for 40
(22:14):
something years and thosethousands of patients and what I
would try to tell all of themis that health and well-being is
like a candle that burns reallybright from the beginning all
the ways to the end and thensputters out and dies.
Right, that's what your lifeshould be like, and not that the
last 20 years of your life.
(22:34):
You're in a wheelchair, youcan't feed yourself, you can't
wipe yourself, you can't batheyourself and you're fully
dependent on others.
And you're immobile.
You're not an amateur.
You cannot get in a car and godrive out, or you might not even
be lucid.
So you want to have.
It's not about living longer, Idon't mind that but it's about
(22:55):
highest quality of life that youcan have for as long as you can
have.
I agree with that 100%, andthat's what it's about, and the
red light therapy is all aboutthat.
So what should you be lookingfor?
Red light therapy?
I don't mind a helmet or a maskor a pad that goes over your
shoulder.
We did all of that and we hadnice results.
(23:15):
At the time, we thought theywere amazing results.
The truth of the matter is,when we accidentally were forced
to build the bed and now seethese unbelievable results, now
we realize that you wantsomething that's going to bathe
your entire body at the sametime.
So we're talking about dementiaand Parkinson's and Alzheimer's
.
We're talking about multiplesclerosis and all the autoimmune
(23:37):
diseases.
We're talking about Lymedisease.
We're talking about shingles.
We're talking about any skincondition, including psoriasis,
eczema and all that stuff.
You've got to get in the bed.
And so someone says well, howam I going to know if it works
for me?
And it takes six visits.
And I'm putting the six fingersup I know no one sees me, but I
(24:00):
feel compelled.
It's six visits Now.
Each visit is 12 minutes and adose.
So a dose is 12 minutes.
That's three times a week fortwo weeks.
At the end of the six weeks,your practitioner will be
sitting down with you and sayinghey, this is where you were
when we started, so this iswhere we are now.
And some people, like that guythat was having heart attack, he
(24:22):
noticed the difference thefirst day, the one visit, when
Steve, who had 40 years of Lymedisease so he contracted Lyme
disease when he was 12.
It ruined his childhood, itruined his education, it ruined
his social life and, of course,it ruined his lack of career and
he was not happy, I don't knowhow else to describe it.
(24:45):
He was pretty depressed abouthis life.
And so we meet him 40 yearslater, 50-something years old,
and he gets in one of our bedsand then gets out of one of our
beds and he notices nodifference at all and he just
poo-poos this as a bunch ofhogwash.
However, five hours later, andever since, it's totally changed
(25:08):
his life.
I'm not going to even sayanything else about it, because
I'm going to send you thesevideos that you're more than
welcome to share with youraudience.
I would love for you guys towatch.
That guy's name is Steve.
You want to watch Joey's videoabout?
I mean, watch them all if youwant, and there are two kinds of
videos in here.
There are patient videos andthere are practitioner videos,
(25:28):
because as a business, thisthing's remarkable.
I just talked to this lady.
She can't travel the distanceto the office that's closest to
her, so she's decided to buy onefor her home herself, and it's
expensive.
I'm not going to sit here andtell you that this is low-end.
(25:49):
This is the highest-end devicethat will give you the maximum
kind of results, but what shesaid to me was that hold on.
I just want to finish this.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
There are a lot of practitioners that listen to
this podcast and I want to makesure I have time to let people
understand.
But what are we talking aboutas an investment for something
like this?
Speaker 2 (26:09):
So if somebody wanted to buy it, it leases for $1,400
a month.
Okay, but as a business,nobody's making less than 10
times return on their investment.
Nice, it's simple.
Not only that, we include 32things with the purchase,
including the basic training,advanced training, the coaching,
all the forms, files, folders,videos, everything that a person
(26:30):
is going to need to be highlysuccessful in their business.
However, if they want to buyjust for their home, they're not
going to need all the marketingstuff and all that, so it can
be at a lower price.
And then there's a whole bunchof people who just want to try
out the bed.
So what I recommend that peopledo is go to trifectalightcom.
Trifecta has to do with thetriple effect, like winning at
(26:54):
the racetrack the triple effectof face really skin, fat and
healing.
Face, fat and healing.
It used to be face, but when wecreated the bed, we realized,
wait a minute, it's the skinfrom head to toe, so it's skin.
When we created the bed, werealized, wait a minute, it's
the skin from head to toe, soit's skin, fat and healing.
And that includes all the men'shealth, women's health,
(27:15):
athletes.
In fact, I'm going to go overathletes in a second, but I just
want to finish that thought ofgetting somebody to use the bed.
It's only six visits.
At the end of those six visitsyou should see some change.
Six visits At the end of thosesix visits, you should see some
change.
Now, if you have horrific,there are people that have
horrific, tragic issues likehorrible Parkinson's.
(27:38):
I have one patient withterrible Parkinson's and he
can't communicate.
You know he can barely functionat all, but he's taking these
very powerful drugs that haveside effects that are scary.
But those drugs give him about20 minutes a day of something
close to normalcy, which meanshe could now communicate for 20
(28:02):
minutes a day and and just, itactually almost makes it worse
because he'd get a glimpse ofwhat life could be if he could
get it all day long.
So he started using our bed andhe found that 20 minutes,
expanding to 30 minutes and then40 minutes and then an hour and
other things.
So, depending upon how severeyour condition is, I don't know
(28:25):
what kind of change you'll seeafter six visits.
It might be phenomenal, itmight be subtle, but almost
everybody I've spoken to, aftersix visits they're going to see
a change.
So you go to the websitetrifectalightcom.
You go to the contact us pageand you'll see there we're on
the left side.
I believe it's on the left sideit's want to try out for as a
(28:47):
patient and we'll find alocation closest to you.
We can't list all of ourlocations for because of privacy
issues, so we'll find theclosest location and we have
hundreds throughout the countryand then on the right side it's.
Are you interested in possiblyeven buying something like this?
Now here's the next subject Iwant to go over is what does it
cost to be sick?
People who are not sick, theydon't know what it costs to be
(29:11):
sick.
As a matter of fact, thetypical 30-year-old is not
thinking about what is theirlife going to be when they're 70
.
If you were to talk to your70-year-old self, if you're 30
years old, I bet you your70-year, your 70 year old self,
if you're 30 years old, I betyou to your 70 year old self
would say please take bettercare, because I don't wind up,
wind up sick and and you know adecrepit and and whatever you
(29:34):
know and you know I'm 72 yearsold and I know I'm getting older
.
There's some things I I don'tjump down the stairs like I used
to.
I don't do it, but I feel likeI'm going to age.
I tell my patients about aging,gracefully, can't stop you from
aging.
That's the universal thing.
(29:54):
We cannot stop.
There's nothing we've been ableto do.
But we call the bed thefountain of youth in a sense,
because we actually see people,feel, look and are kind of
younger, not chronologically butbiologically.
So those people will go to thewebsite.
They'll tell us their closestlocation or what their location
(30:16):
is.
We'll find a location closestto them.
So that's trifecta lightcom,the other thing.
I wrote the book on red lighttherapy.
So if you get a chance theother thing I wrote the book on
red light therapy.
So if you get a chance, if youreally want to study this or
know it pretty well, go toAmazoncom and just put in the
word illuminated healing andyou'll find my book and my name
(30:36):
is Dr Carl Rothschild.
So you can also just put in thename Carl Rothschild.
But the name Rothschild isinfamous, so you'll get all
kinds of I mean I, you know Isometimes had to remove the
comments on some of the videosthat I produced because people
would write well, he's aRothschild.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
I don't want to have anything to do with you.
Yeah, the Illuminati guy right.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
What you think.
Yeah, you go.
You know, the Rothschildscontrol the world.
Well, I'm not one of those.
Control the world?
Well, I'm not one of those.
So just go to IlluminatedHealing.
You go to the websitetrifectalightcom, go to
Illuminated Healing, but I'lltell you there's a beautiful
YouTube channel that we have andit's called.
If you go to YouTube, put inthe word trifecta light official
(31:18):
, one word and I'm telling youit's got videos on there that
are absolutely gorgeous and itwill give you a whole array of
different approaches andunderstanding about red light
therapy.
And so now, why is red lighttherapy not known to everybody
(31:38):
and anybody?
So before I even answer that,catch you guys on the edge of
your seat.
So before I even answer that,catch you guys on the edge of
your seat.
I want you to remember also ourwonderful website called Google
Scholar, and it's Google, butit's better than Google.
So you just go to Google andput in the word Google Scholar
(31:59):
and you'll find it.
It's scholargooglecom.
Go to scholargooglecom, or justgo to Google and put in the
word Google Scholar, and thenyou'll see something that looks
just like Google but it's better.
And then put in the word thephrase red light therapy, and
don't be surprised when you seeover three and a half million
(32:19):
entries of double blind studies,research papers, articles and
all kinds of stuff about redlight therapy, and so you want
to know if it can help you.
So you put in red light therapy, lupus, red light therapy,
psoriasis, eczema I don't carewhatever you put in there liver,
thyroid and see the manyhundreds of different articles
(32:42):
and studies that have been done.
So the next question is whyisn't this everywhere?
Why isn't it at a wound center?
For example, we had a lady thathad third degree burns and she
was guaranteed by the woundcenter permanent scarring, six
months of pain, six months ofdrugs and by the second week of
using our bed she was out ofpain.
And by the second week of usingher bed she was out of pain and
(33:04):
by the end of the third week itwas gone, gone.
And so why isn't that bed inevery wound center?
And again, I'm not a socialist,but having a capitalistic system
for healing is nuts.
So you go to a doctor and hecan make $20,000 this way or
(33:27):
$1,000 this way.
Which way is he going to go?
Let's say, pretend they're bothequal, or maybe one's better
than the other.
Which way is people?
It's too tempting A medicaldoctor.
You're guaranteed.
If you graduate as a medicaldoctor, you're pretty much
guaranteed to become amillionaire.
And why is that?
I don't blame them.
I'm not telling people not tomake money, but maybe we're
(33:49):
putting the wrong opportunitiesin front of these people and
maybe it shouldn't be.
You know, that's why I meanpeople laugh at socialized
medicine, but when I talk toother countries and I do
podcasts all over the world andwhen I talk to these people,
they don't even get it when myconversation with them is well,
(34:10):
why isn't red light everywhere?
It's because it doesn't makeyou as much money as cutting and
as drugs.
And the bottom line is that Iwant people to make money.
I'm not offering an opportunityfor them to not make money, but
maybe we could also considerthe person's well-being and
(34:30):
health.
And this is the exciting thingabout this new.
I mean, I'm not going to getpolitical.
I don't care if you're aRepublican or a Democrat, but
RFK Jr has brought thepossibilities to all of us
because, unless he's full ofcrap.
He said that he was going tochange the focus of well-being
(34:52):
in this country to well-beingrather than profit.
Again, people should make aprofit.
I'm not asking people to doanything for free free but maybe
that they should not be onlythinking about the profit and
maybe taking into considerationthe fact that we can do things
that don't make as much moneybut are very healing.
And again, I want to just finishwith a couple of things.
(35:14):
One, side effects zero.
In the 50 years this technologyhas been studied, there's never
been a recorded side effect.
But the second thing that Ihaven't gone over with you is
contraindications.
Who should not get in the bed?
And really there are nocontraindications.
But I started it off withreally there are not.
(35:38):
So don't listen to that phrasethat there are no
contraindications, because I'mgoing to give you legal
contraindications.
Phrase that there are nocontraindications because I'm
going to give you legalcontraindications.
Sure, one of those legalcontraindications is a pregnant
woman.
Okay, is the light dangerous tothe mother of fetus?
No, it'll help her and thefetus tremendously.
But if that baby comes outanything other than perfect,
(36:01):
they're going to want to suepeople.
And so I tell everyone let'snot be in that neighborhood the
day after she delivers.
That's a perfect candidate foryou to treat the heck out of her
, especially after C-section, ifthey get in this bed, they're
going to recover so much quicker, the scarring is going to be
reduced dramatically and they'regoing to be extremely grateful.
(36:23):
So I just want to also finish upwith what you should be looking
for.
Again, I don't mind helmets, Idon't mind masks.
They're fine, they're fun,great.
But if you're looking for afull body bed and when I started
with beds there was none, andyou know when we started
management there was reallylittle Now, every day somebody
comes out with another junk fromChina, and what am I supposed
to do with that?
(36:44):
So what you want to look for ishigh-grade, medical-grade lights
that are very strong but don'tget hot.
Heat is the enemy.
I already told you that.
That dilates blood vessels.
It'll block the penetration oflight, and all the cheaper
lights out there get hot.
Ours is very strong withoutgetting hot.
Again, if you have heat, it'scounterproductive because you're
(37:08):
going to wind up blocking thepenetration of your light.
You want the light to penetrateas deep as possible, so you want
what we coined the phrase 26something years ago called cold
laser or cold therapy.
Not that lights literally gotcold, but they didn't get hot.
That's the essence.
So you want cold, but theydidn't get hot.
That's the essence.
(37:29):
So you want very strong lightsthat don't get hot.
You want the canopy that comesdown on the person to come right
onto the person not the weightof it, but it will approximate
their body.
Because as you come away fromthe, as the light comes away
from the person's body, you losepower exponentially.
You want the lights as close tothe body as possible, and why
the cheaper beds and cheaperequipment can't do that is
because their lights are too hot.
(37:50):
So you want to be able to bringthe lights as close to the
possible.
You want high-end medical gradethat can get very strong
without being hot.
And then the last thing is thatyou want to be able to pulse
the wave.
Now, pulsing the wave servestwo purposes.
One, it dissipates any otherheat, even more heat, because
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between each of the impulses youcan dissipate some of that
additional heat, so you can haveeven more power.
But even more importantly isresonating frequencies, and some
of you people are familiar withhealing frequencies, where you
can have a certain frequencythat will resonate with
different tissues in the body.
My favorite frequency is 528.
(38:34):
That's the universal healingfrequency.
And so we have the bed haslight frequency.
We include a sound generatorand we include a vibratory
device.
And the vibratory device isdone after the lights because
the vibration itself will bringmore fluid to the surface and we
don't want that.
So it goes while they're in thebed they're hearing the sound
(38:56):
frequency going on, they'regetting light frequency from the
bed and then they get off thebed to get on the whole body
vibrational device and then theyhave that frequency as well.
So the kind of level of successwe have with fat loss, with
healing with the face and skinand all that is pretty
remarkable.
And with all the training andall the coaching we also include
(39:17):
a coach With all that and allthe files, folders, videos and
forms that everyone and anyonewould need, the results have
been that we have a very highsuccess rate with what we call
business in a box.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
Well, you have most definitely piqued my interest,
and I've been working with andstudying natural healing
modalities for 40 years myself,and this is really the first
time that this particular nearinfrared technology has really
been presented to me this way.
So I'm looking forward togetting onto your website and
(39:52):
taking a look and seeing, and,who knows, where we go from here
and Joe do me a favor, send meyour address.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
I will, and I'll send you a copy of my book beautiful
.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
I appreciate it.
I will read it and you know if,if it works out, maybe we'll
have a further conversation.
I know you did a beautifulpresentation in a quick way.
Sometimes guests like to comeback and go deep into some
topics.
We'll see where we go.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
Okay, it's been a pleasure Okay.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
Absolutely Well.
Thank you so much, Dr CarlRothschild and not the bad
Rothschild, as we said and wewill thank everybody for your
support listening to the show.
And, Carl, we will see you nexttime.
Thank you All right.
Thanks a lot, All right.
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