September 6, 2025 • 34 mins
Dietitian Melanie Murphy Richter takes us on a journey through the fascinating connections between gut health, intuition, and longevity in this enlightening conversation. Recognized as the 2023 Young Dietitian of the Year, Melanie shares how her personal battle with IBS became the catalyst for her career transformation and passion for holistic nutrition.
The concept of "body literacy" emerges as a powerful framework—learning to read and respond to your body's signals rather than relying solely on external expertise. As Melanie explains, "We rely on other people to tell us what's wrong or how to fix it," but with practice, we can develop remarkable awareness of our own needs. This self-knowledge becomes the foundation for making aligned choices not just about food, but in relationships, career paths, and overall life direction.
Diving into the science of longevity, Melanie breaks down why plant-forward eating supports cellular health, highlighting the dramatic difference between our ancestors' fiber intake (over 100 grams daily) and modern Americans' meager 20 grams. She illuminates how different protein sources affect our nutrient-sensing pathways—IGF-1, mTOR, and PKA—and their influence on cellular aging and disease risk.
Perhaps most fascinating is her explanation of the fasting mimicking diet developed by Dr. Walter Longo, which allows people to experience the powerful cellular rejuvenation benefits of fasting while still consuming food. This breakthrough approach has particular significance for cancer patients and others with chronic conditions who might benefit from fasting's effects but cannot safely undertake traditional water fasting.
Whether you're navigating a health challenge, exploring longevity practices, or simply seeking to optimize your wellbeing, this episode offers practical wisdom for becoming your own best health advocate. As host Joe Grumbine reminds us, "You are the medicine, and all the things that we put into the body unlock the medicinal powers that your body already has."
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Hello and welcome back to the Healthy Living
Podcast.
I'm your host, joe Grumbine,and today we have a very special
guest and her name is MelanieMurphy Richter and she's a
Dynamic Registered Dietitian.
Nutritionalist and I had to saythat slow and carefully because
there's a lot of words therenutritionalist and I had to say
that slow and carefully becausethere's a lot of words there.
(00:27):
And she's also the 2023recognized Young Dietitian of
the Year by the Academy ofNutrition and Dietetics.
As Director of Communicationsand Medical Science Educator at
El Nutra, she drives thecompany's mission to promote
health through evidence-basednutrition.
Melanie is also a graduateinstructor at UC Irvine where
she mentors future healthcareprofessionals.
(00:48):
Founder of Holistic Ritual, andshe combines science-backed
nutrition with holistic healing.
She's been featured in Forbes,usa Today, men's Health and more
Well.
That's quite an intro.
Melanie, welcome to the show.
How are you doing today?
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Thank you so much, joe.
It's a pleasure to be here,happy to have this combo with
you.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Well, this is good.
I come from a place where allthe things I learned I just
learned by doing and trying andreading and all the
old-fashioned ways, and had afew teachers along the way.
But you jumped in and you gotinto the classic educational
side of things.
I like that.
That means people are beingtaught and learning some things
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aside from what gets handed tous on a plate through media.
So why don't you tell us alittle bit about what brought
you to this line?
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Yeah, so it's funny you say that, because even
though I am traditionallytrained as a dietitian and I
have my degree in that world,there's so much that we don't
learn in going to dieteticschool.
So I feel like I started mysecond round of dietetic
exploration once I graduated anddid a lot of self-learning and
(02:06):
training on my own throughdifferent institutes and things
like that.
But dietetics is my second life.
I was originally in healthcarePR for about 10 years prior to
this, and it's an interestingpart of my story because at the
time I was, uh, suffering fromreally bad IBS, um, irritable
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bowel syndrome.
I was really unhappy, eventhough I was super successful in
this other line of work.
I was miserable, didn't like it.
I was holding onto lots ofinflammatory weight and I
remember waking up one day andthinking you know, I simply
can't live my life this way andI was like what, what do I love?
What lights me up, what bringsme passion?
And food has always, since Iwas a little girl, food and
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nutrition have been.
I've always been fascinated byhow food can impact your ability
to be well, to also to it canimpact your body in so many
different ways, and I've alwaysbeen fascinated by that, so I
decided to go get my master's.
I was like I'm quittingeverything, I'm doing something
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completely different, and wentto go get my master's.
I have um.
I wanted to go to an integratedschool that was a more um,
holistic, if you will, in termsof what, how, what types of
modalities they teach, and andum.
University of SouthernCalifornia has a um, the one and
only longevity Institute in theU S, Dr Walter Longo,
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originally founded by him and um.
So I went.
Now I have my master's degreein longevity and health span
from um USC Um, and since I'vegraduated, I've I've kind of
specialized in both gut healthas a root for so many different
chronic diseases, and so most ofmy patients, even if they come
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with non-gut-related,traditional gut-related symptoms
, the gut is where I start withmost of my patients and I've
I've I would say.
Longevity is also my main, myother main focus in my world and
helping people to live inhealthy bodies for as long as
humanly possible.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Well, you've tapped into some very powerful areas of
the health world.
First of all, food.
You know, in just about anytradition that is health related
would recognize food as thefirst medicine.
And you know it affectseverything you do.
It affects your health, itaffects your lack of health, it
affects your sleep, it affectsyour stress levels, your
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inflammation, your cortisol,everything.
And so as you get to understandthat, you realize that's all
tied up.
And then, fairly recently, inthe last maybe 10 years, the
importance of gut health hasreally come to light.
And well, guess what?
The gut deals with Food.
And then again, in the lastprobably 10 years, longevity has
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become sort of in and I think,as all these boomers are getting
older, they're the ones withthe money.
They're like, hey, why don't welive longer?
And they're putting sponsoring,figuring out how to, how to
make this stuff happen, andpeople are jumping in and really
digging deep.
Technology is helping.
(05:18):
When I started studying herbs,it was 40 years ago.
There was no computers, so Ihad to go to used bookstores and
buy old books and read them andcompare them to all the other
books and none of them agreedwith each other and I had to
sort of find my way theold-fashioned way.
(05:39):
Yeah, Nowadays you can look atpeer-reviewed studies and you
can see this person did all thiswork and I can just scoop the
cherry off of it.
And that person did all thiswork no-transcript.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
They're healthy.
I know it's, it's crazy, becauseI I, you know, I know, having
gone through my experience withIBS and really reaching a pretty
deep low in my health manyyears ago.
I consider it such a gift though, because I don't think that I
would have made change had I nothad this really catastrophic
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health experience.
I thank my lucky stars becausenow I know what 100% feels like,
and I don't know that I wouldhave gotten there had I not, you
know, taken this harder path,but I the reason this is so
fascinating is that I, you know,we're getting, we're in the
longevity in world where we'reliving longer lives, because,
you know, medicine has helped tokeep us alive longer, but we're
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not living in healthier bodiesfor those years.
And that's like who wants that?
Who wants to live longer in abody that can't, you know, get
up or that aches and pains, andyou know, that's it.
Just it doesn't.
It doesn't make sense to methat we, that our focus
shouldn't be on health span andour the ability to live in a
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really healthy body until theday we die.
So that that's kind of my my,of my inroads into this world.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
I like it.
Well, I think we all have apotential and it's funny that
all the different guests that Ihave always try to kind of find
what got them here and many,many times, a similar story to
yours.
Yours is the first I've heardwith IBS, but I know people that
have gone through Ibs.
It's brutal and it's connectedto the gut, it's connected to
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nutrition, it's connected to allthose things you know.
Less than a year ago, I wasdiagnosed with a very aggressive
cancer that almost took my life, and I got hit with this giant
wake-up call and the firstdoctor I went to see told me he
goes well, you're so healthy,that giant tumor sticking out of
your neck's probably not cancer, and I said, oh good.
(08:28):
And so that sent me down a badroad, just by listening to a
doctor and believing my body wasgoing to fix itself instead of,
you know, really figuring out.
But here I am.
You wouldn't be able to tell,aside from my bald head, that
anything might be off, and I've.
I dedicated all my energy to it, and now a big part of this
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podcast is about teaching peoplehow to find their own answers,
and that's part of what you'rehere for is to share the tools.
It's not that what I did willhelp you the way it helped me,
but if you go about it the way Idid it and treat it the way I
did, maybe you can find similartype answers.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Yeah, thank you for sharing that.
I think what you're tapping intois an element of what I teach
quite a lot in my practice withmy patients, just in general, is
this concept of body literacythat a lot of a lot of us are
and not to say that you weren'tbody literate, but perhaps had
you yeah, I was like not had youknown the right, the nuances of
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how your body was feeling inthat moment, or?
Um, there's a lot that we don't.
We rely on other people to tellus what's wrong or or how to
fix it, and I feel veryimpassioned that you know, with
some cognizant awareness andpractice, we can get very good
at understanding on our own whatour bodies need and how to get
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it, whether it be from food orfrom maybe we do then know okay,
I need outside help and sourcesfor this, but body literacy is
a big element of what I Well, abig part of my message is that
you are the medicine, and allthe things that we put into the
body unlock the medicinal powersthat your body already has.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
And you're the teacher, you're the doctor.
You have to advocate for yourown health because nobody feels
what you feel.
Nobody knows, even if you havea good doctor who listens to you
and you tell them everythingyou think of.
You forgot something.
But if you learn to payattention to yourself and really
take stock of where am I today,how was I when I felt this way
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or that way, and really startpaying attention, well then all
of a sudden you're like you canget to a pretty good place
pretty quick.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Yep, yep, exactly.
Well, I'm glad to hear you'rehopefully on the other side of
things.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Oh yeah, you see where I was.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
What a strange gift, but a gift in and of itself.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
I tell people that all the time it's like the most
crazy, unexpected, uh, unwantedto begin with, and I certainly
wouldn't want to do it again.
But what I've gotten from it, Iwould never.
I would never take it back.
Yeah, yeah, community, I'vebuilt.
Understanding I've built, Ihave an empathy that I never had
(11:25):
.
There's all these things that Ican help people in a way that
you know.
I don't have any degrees, but Idon't need them for what I do.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Yeah, yeah.
Well, that's beautiful.
I'm glad to hear it.
We need more.
We need more of us out in there.
Exactly we come in all cheapSoldiers on the ground Exactly.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Yeah Well, so tell me about your practice and tell me
about what you're doing today.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Sure, I mean I do.
I think I've hit on some reallyimportant ones.
But body literacy is a reallybig component of what I do.
I intersect in the world of gutintuition, which I like to
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preface by talking about how wehave a spiritual intuition.
That kind of also lives in ourgut, and when our gut isn't
functioning properly, ourintuition is not as easily.
We can't read our body as well.
So it loops into the bodyliteracy that I teach.
But it also combines what I dowith gut health and gut healing.
(12:30):
So I work with a lot of patientsthat have autoimmune conditions
, anxiety, depression.
Yeah, I work with a span ofdifferent people, but I would
say most of it's helping torestore people's physical gut so
that their gut intuition andtheir intuition and their
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ability to make decisions thatare healthy for them in the rest
of their lives whether that bewith relationships with you know
, career paths, things like thatare also aligned to what they
want to do, because you know alot of what.
I was just having a wonderfulconversation with a friend of
mine yesterday about you know,when you start down a healing
path, you know a lot of peopledo start, I think, with their
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body, with their, with you knowfood or diet, and you start to
heal this one element of yourlife and then you realize, oh
shoot, I'm actually reallyunhappy at my job and that's
been causing like suchinflammation in my body and such
you know anxiety that's nowimpeding my ability to continue
down this path.
Right, you start to kind ofhave you have to cut through all
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of the different elements ofyour life that are not aligned
or not serving you.
So I work kind of at thatjuncture in people's lives where
you know your physical body andyour life path are needing to
meet at the center, and usuallythat that begins in the gut for
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me and how I practice mypatients.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
So, in looking through some of the notes that I
have, I am very aware of in thelast 10 years or so at least.
I mean you know it's been goingon forever since the Back to
Eden books or whatever but therehave become these ways of
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eating that are touted as beingvery healing and I see that
you've touched on several ofthem.
But the problem that I see isyou have people from widely
varying spectrums of influencebringing out widely varying
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points and maybe having validityfor certain groups, and I know
people that are just adamantabout the carnivore diet and I
know people that are adamantabout the keto diet and I know
people I see you got intofasting, mimicking and fasting,
intermittent fasting, and thatwas a big part of my journey.
That was instrumental in my wayto health.
(15:07):
But I learned, for somebody whohas cancer, the keto diet,
which was pretty much where Iwas at that, took me from being
50 pounds overweight to ahealthy point where my doctor
thought I didn't have cancerwith a giant lump sticking out
of my neck because I was just sodarn healthy for a 58-year-old
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guy told me that you know, likeyou were saying, you can fix
parts of your body dramaticallywhile still leaving parts
completely unaligned orunserviced.
(15:48):
And I learned, you know, withdealing with cancer, that the
plant-based diet is instrumentalin a healing journey and,
combined with many differentthings, you know people think,
oh, you can't have sugar.
But it turns out if you eatwhole fruit as a primary food
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source and you limit yourprotein dramatically, there's a
huge thing that happens.
And I believe I know a guy whowas a good friend of mine, I've
known since high school and hewas in a bad injury and ended up
, you know, being veryoverweight.
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But he always worked out.
He was a you know gym rat andeven though his knees, legs were
all messed up, he'd alwaysworked out.
He was a you know gym rat andeven though his knees, legs were
all messed up, he'd always getout there and pump that iron.
And eventually he found thiscarnivore diet and kind of
started out as a keto thing andhe switched over to the
carnivore thing and he lost aton of weight and I, you know he
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tried to hand that to me whileI was dealing with my thing,
after I had already learned whatI learned.
I'm like, dude, it might workfor you but it's definitely not
for me.
The keto thing helped me lose alot of weight.
I cut out all the sugar, I cutout all the bread, the carbs,
and I ate a lot of healthy fatsand protein.
Intermittent fasting was huge.
(17:12):
We can get into that in a bit,but just the source of food.
So tell me, where do you comefrom with that?
It sounds like you're verystrong into the vegan side of
things.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Yeah, no, this is this is.
You've touched on so manyreally important things.
I, I I will say before I diveinto what I my thoughts on your
comment is how emotionally tiedpeople are to their food, their
food choices.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
It's almost political you know, like you know, the
hardest things I did was give upmy meat and fish.
I mean, I even had a guy whotold me what I needed to know
months before I accepted it.
I was just like no, I know I'm-.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
This is like part of my identity.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Yeah, I'm not going to give that up.
And then when you learn thethings you learn, you're like,
well, what do you want?
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Yeah.
So I do like to preface it withthat, because I need people to
check themselves sometimes andthey get really emotionally tied
to like, oh well, I'm not goingto listen to this person
anymore because they're sayingthings that I don't you know,
fundamentally don't believe.
I have, you know, harnessed myline of work in the longevity
space and it's important tounderstand that longevity to me
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when you because that word isthrown around all the time like
longevity, longevity, but whatdo you mean?
What I mean by longevity isthat I want my body to be
functioning at the best possibleplace when I am chronologically
very old, right, like I want mycells to be functioning younger
than my chronological age.
That's what I mean.
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That's going to be differentthan you know, being in a really
chiseled, you know, body thatit can, you know, has an eight
pack.
That might look different.
You know, it doesn't have to bedifferent, but it might look
different for somebody withdifferent health goals.
But so I need to be very clearabout what I mean From a
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longevity perspective.
There is a way of eating thathas been studied and researched
and has evidence behind it thatsupports cellular health and
reducing your biological age,which is the age of your cells
and ultimately that is whathealthspan is is reducing the
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age of your cells, and that'sgoing to be different than the
age on your license or on yourbirth certificate, right?
And that kind of composition iswhat we call the longevity diet
, which is also, you know,coined by Dr Walter Longo, but
plant-based, plant-forwardeating.
And I don't want to sayplant-based because it doesn't
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mean that animal products don'thave a place in a healthy
lifestyle, but the emphasisisn't on animals.
So, mostly in the United States, especially in Western culture,
we have made animal productsmeat, milk, yogurts, cheese as
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the centerpiece of our plate,when it really should be a
supplement to our diet.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
So, yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
So plant forward eating is really critical to
living a long time, and part ofthat is twofold.
One, the fiber component.
Plant-based, plant-based foodshave a ton of fiber and when we
have fiber is the prebiotic foodthat are the those gut microbes
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in our, in our, in our gut eatto keep them alive.
And if we don't keep, if wekeep supplementing with
probiotics but then go and eat acarnivore diet and aren't
feeding them fiber, you're notgoing to be.
You're basically plantingflowers and letting them die
outside.
That's not.
It doesn't help keep them alive.
So fiber is critical and ourearly human ancestors, the way
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that we evolved, was by eatinglittle bits of a lot of
different plants we used toconsume Whatever we could find
we used to consume upwards of a100 grams of fiber a day easily.
That's how we evolved and nowmost of us are struggling to get
20 grams of fiber a day fromlike the standard American diet.
So that's the first key.
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But you brought up a really,really, and I'm happy.
I don't even have to convinceyou because you already know,
already know.
But the other component to plantforward eating is staying below
, and this is I'm going to tryto explain this in a way that's
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not so heady.
But when you are trying to keepyour cells younger, you want to
make sure that the nutrientsensing pathways in your body
and we have three main nutrientsensing pathways in our body and
we have three main nutrientsensing pathways in our body we
have IGF-1, mtor and PKA.
Igf-1, I think, is probably themost popular.
People probably know that onefrom eating carbohydrates and
proteins and things.
But if you stay below, if youdon't trigger those pathways in
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your body, your cells will notgrow.
So, basically, those nutrientsensing pathways are growth
pathways.
And if you don't have anywherefor growth to go and I'll give
you an example so let's sayyou're eating 150 grams of
protein and all you're doing fora workout is like briskly
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walking or you're you knowyou're not, you're not really
growing your muscles at all,triggering eating a hundred
grams of protein, which which iswill trigger the IGF-1 and mTOR
pathways, the two of thenutrient sensing pathways in our
body.
If you eat all that protein andyou don't have to grow anything
, you're not growing muscles,you're not growing a brain,
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you're not doing any of that.
You're still going to growsomething and growth is going to
age.
It's going to age your cellsfaster, that's that's
essentially what's happeninghere, so um cancer cells work
with the mTOR pathway.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
That's the thing that I don't.
You know.
That comes up all the time.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Yep, so I, I work, I'm, I'm, uh'm not only the
director of communications, butI'm a medical science educator
at Alnutra.
And Alnutra is a leadinglongevity science company and we
have upwards of 25 years ofresearch and development, over
47 clinical trials, of which athird of those are, if not more,
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in human trials.
Looking all at thesenutrient-sensing pathways and
their impact, specifically howfasting can impact them.
But you know also how proteinimpacts them and glucose impacts
them, accelerate those nutrientsensing pathways faster than
plant-based sources of protein,which is really important to
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note, because when you talkabout low protein.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
It's important to remember because that really
triggers people.
They're like what do you mean?
Speaker 2 (24:19):
I'm not going to do protein.
You go to the store and you seeprotein everywhere.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Oh, and it's having a heyday right now.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Whoa, oh yeah Whoa.
Everyone is eating way too much, but the story here is that you
do need amino acids and proteinfor almost every single process
in your body, so there is areason why people are so
obsessed with it.
It is so important.
It's right behind water.
Protein is used for just abouteverything that our body needs,
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so there's a reason why it'simportant to have, and you need
to get, adequate sources ofprotein.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
But your body recycles protein at an amazing
rate.
All those amino acids they gettaken apart, put back together.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Our body is highly, highly resourceful, for sure.
But if you're not, if you, ifyou're not utilizing it, it's
going to go either to it's goingto get stored on your body as
fat, or it's going, and or it'sgoing to age your cells and and
all of that is linked to higherdisease risk, you know, higher
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cancer risk, accelerated aging,which you know again, all all of
which is what we're trying toavoid when we're talking about,
you know, living in a long,healthy body.
So you know, plant-basedproteins are a great place to be
in this happy medium to helpyou get enough protein, but not
to accelerate that aging, theaging pathway faster.
Plant-based sources of proteinsare incredible for that, and
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they also provide a ton of fiber.
So plant forward eating is oneof the cornerstones, fundamental
cornerstones, of living a longand healthy life and actually
preventing disease.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
I couldn't agree more .
Well, you know, this is a spotwhere I recognize that we have a
lot more we could talk aboutForever.
I would like to invite you tocome back and continue this
conversation.
We didn't talk about water, wedidn't talk about fasting, we
didn't talk about so many things, but I would like a little more
about L-neutra and just howthat that works.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Sure, and I I'll.
So.
One of the one of the pillarsof the longevity zones, the blue
zones around the world, is thefact that they all fast, they
all have, they all follow yearlyperiodic fasting.
And our founder, dr WalterLongo, is the godfather of this
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space.
He, he was an oncologyresearcher for many years and
was studying cancer patientsactually and researching cancer
patients and had found you know,over almost 30 years ago now
that those who fasted in andaround chemotherapy actually did
better with chemotherapy, likethe chemotherapy worked better
in their body and also theyrecovered faster after
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chemotherapy, preaching mygospel, that's two days or one
day after.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
There's published papers all over the place.
Yep Living proof.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Yep, yep, and he actually has since founded a
nonprofit organizationspecifically on cancer.
So he knows this very well.
But one of his researchquestions at the time and this
is why El Nutro was born um isthat, you know, oncology
patients um tend to be.
They're the mostimmunocompromised of our
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population and they alreadystruggle to eat.
It's a lot of them struggle toeat and you're not, you know
there's there also is thisbalance of we don't want them to
fast we are already strugglingto get enough food Like we don't
want you to also avoid and fastand that's also not good.
So he had this researchquestion.
He's like okay, we know thepower of fasting, this is clear.
(27:56):
But for our mostimmunocompromised people, what
are?
What are we going to do forthem?
How can we, how can we makesure that they get the benefits
of autophagy, which is thatcellular rejuvenation that
happens during fasting, that'sso powerful?
How can we help them activatethat pathway without avoiding
food altogether?
So in came the fasting mimickingdiet, which is, which is
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essentially a um a five yeah,it's a five day program.
That um is we took.
It took us many, many years tofigure this out, but there's a
very precise ratio of macro tomicronutrients that is enveloped
within the program.
So each day is a very specific,unique amount of macronutrients
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.
So you get to eat food, but itstays below those
nutrient-sensing pathways thatwe talked about before.
But it stays below thosenutrient sensing pathways that
we talked about before, so thatyou still activate autophagy on
day three, four, five, six andseven.
But you'd get food and you getnourished, and so it's a lot
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easier and safer for most people, because water fasting is not
necessarily safe for everybody.
No-transcript.
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Obviously you'll see benefitsafter one cycle, but the
benefits compound the more thatyou do it.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Every practice change , you know it takes your body,
shows you what it did.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
And it's and it takes a second.
I mean especially for us adultslike, we have a lot of toxins
and sludge and things that wehave.
It's hard to work all that outin one cycle but you, you can
over time.
Um, but essentially, uh, nowL-nutra has two different, two
different arms we have we have,um, the, the main fasting
mimicking diet, Prolon, thatmost people know and love,
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that's been on the commercialmarket for the past nine years,
almost 10 years, um, that youcan purchase on your own.
You know people use it forweight loss, for metabolic
health, it's wonderful forhelping to, you know, reset your
relationship with food too.
There's lots of, like you know,anecdotal evidence to support
that.
You know, decreased sugarcravings and improved
self-confidence and all thesereally incredible things.
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And we've, since about a year,almost a year and a half ago, we
you're on diabetes medications,heart, you know, cholesterol,
blood pressure medications.
We help to monitor that evenhelp to reduce medications over
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time, include laboratory reviews.
So it's their comprehensiveprograms that are helping to
address specifically metabolicconditions.
But we, in down the pipeline,we're working on cancer too.
We're launching our cancerprogram here in the next few
years.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
So we're busy.
We're busy, love it.
Well, it's been amazing hearingabout this.
You know the fact that thethings that you're talking about
are things I discovered.
You know on your own thatworked for me, and I tell people
about these things all the time, and all I have is you know
what I used to be and I can showyou what I am now and get
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people to take me for.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
You're a walking proof.
It's incredible.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Well, Melanie, I would love to definitely
continue this conversation inthe future.
As always, I'd like to give youa chance to let people know how
they can reach you and anyfinal parting shot you want to
share with us.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Yeah, sure.
If any of you are interested inlearning about the fasting
mimicking diet, which is trulysomething magical and
science-backed and incredible,you can visit ProlonLifecom,
which is P-R-O-L-O-N-L-I-F-Ecom.
You can look at the Fast andthe Moving Game Diet there.
(32:04):
You can follow us at Prolon onInstagram, facebook and all over
.
If you're looking for mepersonally, I'm on Instagram at
healthandmelnessH-E-A-L-T-H-N-M-E-L-L-N-E-S-S,
and I like to you know it's notsalesy over there.
(32:26):
It's a lot of education,empowerment and lots of tools
and tips for living your bestand most optimized life.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
Wonderful.
Well, I thank you so much forsharing your time with us and
your wisdom, and this has beenanother episode of the Healthy
Living Podcast.
I'm your host, joe Grumbine,and we thank you for your
support and we will see.
Hello and welcome back to the Healthy Living
Podcast.
I'm your host, joe Grumbine,and today we have a very special
guest and her name is MelanieMurphy Richter and she's a
Dynamic Registered Dietitian.
Nutritionalist and I had to saythat slow and carefully because
there's a lot of words therenutritionalist and I had to say
that slow and carefully becausethere's a lot of words there.
(00:27):
And she's also the 2023recognized Young Dietitian of
the Year by the Academy ofNutrition and Dietetics.
As Director of Communicationsand Medical Science Educator at
El Nutra, she drives thecompany's mission to promote
health through evidence-basednutrition.
Melanie is also a graduateinstructor at UC Irvine where
she mentors future healthcareprofessionals.
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Founder of Holistic Ritual, andshe combines science-backed
nutrition with holistic healing.
She's been featured in Forbes,usa Today, men's Health and more
Well.
That's quite an intro.
Melanie, welcome to the show.
How are you doing today?
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Thank you so much, joe.
It's a pleasure to be here,happy to have this combo with
you.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Well, this is good.
I come from a place where allthe things I learned I just
learned by doing and trying andreading and all the
old-fashioned ways, and had afew teachers along the way.
But you jumped in and you gotinto the classic educational
side of things.
I like that.
That means people are beingtaught and learning some things
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aside from what gets handed tous on a plate through media.
So why don't you tell us alittle bit about what brought
you to this line?
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Yeah, so it's funny you say that, because even
though I am traditionallytrained as a dietitian and I
have my degree in that world,there's so much that we don't
learn in going to dieteticschool.
So I feel like I started mysecond round of dietetic
exploration once I graduated anddid a lot of self-learning and
(02:06):
training on my own throughdifferent institutes and things
like that.
But dietetics is my second life.
I was originally in healthcarePR for about 10 years prior to
this, and it's an interestingpart of my story because at the
time I was, uh, suffering fromreally bad IBS, um, irritable
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bowel syndrome.
I was really unhappy, eventhough I was super successful in
this other line of work.
I was miserable, didn't like it.
I was holding onto lots ofinflammatory weight and I
remember waking up one day andthinking you know, I simply
can't live my life this way andI was like what, what do I love?
What lights me up, what bringsme passion?
And food has always, since Iwas a little girl, food and
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nutrition have been.
I've always been fascinated byhow food can impact your ability
to be well, to also to it canimpact your body in so many
different ways, and I've alwaysbeen fascinated by that, so I
decided to go get my master's.
I was like I'm quittingeverything, I'm doing something
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completely different, and wentto go get my master's.
I have um.
I wanted to go to an integratedschool that was a more um,
holistic, if you will, in termsof what, how, what types of
modalities they teach, and andum.
University of SouthernCalifornia has a um, the one and
only longevity Institute in theU S, Dr Walter Longo,
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originally founded by him and um.
So I went.
Now I have my master's degreein longevity and health span
from um USC Um, and since I'vegraduated, I've I've kind of
specialized in both gut healthas a root for so many different
chronic diseases, and so most ofmy patients, even if they come
(03:54):
with non-gut-related,traditional gut-related symptoms
, the gut is where I start withmost of my patients and I've
I've I would say.
Longevity is also my main, myother main focus in my world and
helping people to live inhealthy bodies for as long as
humanly possible.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Well, you've tapped into some very powerful areas of
the health world.
First of all, food.
You know, in just about anytradition that is health related
would recognize food as thefirst medicine.
And you know it affectseverything you do.
It affects your health, itaffects your lack of health, it
affects your sleep, it affectsyour stress levels, your
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inflammation, your cortisol,everything.
And so as you get to understandthat, you realize that's all
tied up.
And then, fairly recently, inthe last maybe 10 years, the
importance of gut health hasreally come to light.
And well, guess what?
The gut deals with Food.
And then again, in the lastprobably 10 years, longevity has
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become sort of in and I think,as all these boomers are getting
older, they're the ones withthe money.
They're like, hey, why don't welive longer?
And they're putting sponsoring,figuring out how to, how to
make this stuff happen, andpeople are jumping in and really
digging deep.
Technology is helping.
(05:18):
When I started studying herbs,it was 40 years ago.
There was no computers, so Ihad to go to used bookstores and
buy old books and read them andcompare them to all the other
books and none of them agreedwith each other and I had to
sort of find my way theold-fashioned way.
(05:39):
Yeah, Nowadays you can look atpeer-reviewed studies and you
can see this person did all thiswork and I can just scoop the
cherry off of it.
And that person did all thiswork no-transcript.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
They're healthy.
I know it's, it's crazy, becauseI I, you know, I know, having
gone through my experience withIBS and really reaching a pretty
deep low in my health manyyears ago.
I consider it such a gift though, because I don't think that I
would have made change had I nothad this really catastrophic
(06:55):
health experience.
I thank my lucky stars becausenow I know what 100% feels like,
and I don't know that I wouldhave gotten there had I not, you
know, taken this harder path,but I the reason this is so
fascinating is that I, you know,we're getting, we're in the
longevity in world where we'reliving longer lives, because,
you know, medicine has helped tokeep us alive longer, but we're
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not living in healthier bodiesfor those years.
And that's like who wants that?
Who wants to live longer in abody that can't, you know, get
up or that aches and pains, andyou know, that's it.
Just it doesn't.
It doesn't make sense to methat we, that our focus
shouldn't be on health span andour the ability to live in a
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really healthy body until theday we die.
So that that's kind of my my,of my inroads into this world.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
I like it.
Well, I think we all have apotential and it's funny that
all the different guests that Ihave always try to kind of find
what got them here and many,many times, a similar story to
yours.
Yours is the first I've heardwith IBS, but I know people that
have gone through Ibs.
It's brutal and it's connectedto the gut, it's connected to
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nutrition, it's connected to allthose things you know.
Less than a year ago, I wasdiagnosed with a very aggressive
cancer that almost took my life, and I got hit with this giant
wake-up call and the firstdoctor I went to see told me he
goes well, you're so healthy,that giant tumor sticking out of
your neck's probably not cancer, and I said, oh good.
(08:28):
And so that sent me down a badroad, just by listening to a
doctor and believing my body wasgoing to fix itself instead of,
you know, really figuring out.
But here I am.
You wouldn't be able to tell,aside from my bald head, that
anything might be off, and I've.
I dedicated all my energy to it, and now a big part of this
(08:51):
podcast is about teaching peoplehow to find their own answers,
and that's part of what you'rehere for is to share the tools.
It's not that what I did willhelp you the way it helped me,
but if you go about it the way Idid it and treat it the way I
did, maybe you can find similartype answers.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Yeah, thank you for sharing that.
I think what you're tapping intois an element of what I teach
quite a lot in my practice withmy patients, just in general, is
this concept of body literacythat a lot of a lot of us are
and not to say that you weren'tbody literate, but perhaps had
you yeah, I was like not had youknown the right, the nuances of
(09:33):
how your body was feeling inthat moment, or?
Um, there's a lot that we don't.
We rely on other people to tellus what's wrong or or how to
fix it, and I feel veryimpassioned that you know, with
some cognizant awareness andpractice, we can get very good
at understanding on our own whatour bodies need and how to get
(09:55):
it, whether it be from food orfrom maybe we do then know okay,
I need outside help and sourcesfor this, but body literacy is
a big element of what I Well, abig part of my message is that
you are the medicine, and allthe things that we put into the
body unlock the medicinal powersthat your body already has.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
And you're the teacher, you're the doctor.
You have to advocate for yourown health because nobody feels
what you feel.
Nobody knows, even if you havea good doctor who listens to you
and you tell them everythingyou think of.
You forgot something.
But if you learn to payattention to yourself and really
take stock of where am I today,how was I when I felt this way
(10:41):
or that way, and really startpaying attention, well then all
of a sudden you're like you canget to a pretty good place
pretty quick.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Yep, yep, exactly.
Well, I'm glad to hear you'rehopefully on the other side of
things.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Oh yeah, you see where I was.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
What a strange gift, but a gift in and of itself.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
I tell people that all the time it's like the most
crazy, unexpected, uh, unwantedto begin with, and I certainly
wouldn't want to do it again.
But what I've gotten from it, Iwould never.
I would never take it back.
Yeah, yeah, community, I'vebuilt.
Understanding I've built, Ihave an empathy that I never had
(11:25):
.
There's all these things that Ican help people in a way that
you know.
I don't have any degrees, but Idon't need them for what I do.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Yeah, yeah.
Well, that's beautiful.
I'm glad to hear it.
We need more.
We need more of us out in there.
Exactly we come in all cheapSoldiers on the ground Exactly.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Yeah Well, so tell me about your practice and tell me
about what you're doing today.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Sure, I mean I do.
I think I've hit on some reallyimportant ones.
But body literacy is a reallybig component of what I do.
I intersect in the world of gutintuition, which I like to
(12:08):
preface by talking about how wehave a spiritual intuition.
That kind of also lives in ourgut, and when our gut isn't
functioning properly, ourintuition is not as easily.
We can't read our body as well.
So it loops into the bodyliteracy that I teach.
But it also combines what I dowith gut health and gut healing.
(12:30):
So I work with a lot of patientsthat have autoimmune conditions
, anxiety, depression.
Yeah, I work with a span ofdifferent people, but I would
say most of it's helping torestore people's physical gut so
that their gut intuition andtheir intuition and their
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ability to make decisions thatare healthy for them in the rest
of their lives whether that bewith relationships with you know
, career paths, things like thatare also aligned to what they
want to do, because you know alot of what.
I was just having a wonderfulconversation with a friend of
mine yesterday about you know,when you start down a healing
path, you know a lot of peopledo start, I think, with their
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body, with their, with you knowfood or diet, and you start to
heal this one element of yourlife and then you realize, oh
shoot, I'm actually reallyunhappy at my job and that's
been causing like suchinflammation in my body and such
you know anxiety that's nowimpeding my ability to continue
down this path.
Right, you start to kind ofhave you have to cut through all
(13:36):
of the different elements ofyour life that are not aligned
or not serving you.
So I work kind of at thatjuncture in people's lives where
you know your physical body andyour life path are needing to
meet at the center, and usuallythat that begins in the gut for
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me and how I practice mypatients.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
So, in looking through some of the notes that I
have, I am very aware of in thelast 10 years or so at least.
I mean you know it's been goingon forever since the Back to
Eden books or whatever but therehave become these ways of
(14:22):
eating that are touted as beingvery healing and I see that
you've touched on several ofthem.
But the problem that I see isyou have people from widely
varying spectrums of influencebringing out widely varying
(14:42):
points and maybe having validityfor certain groups, and I know
people that are just adamantabout the carnivore diet and I
know people that are adamantabout the keto diet and I know
people I see you got intofasting, mimicking and fasting,
intermittent fasting, and thatwas a big part of my journey.
That was instrumental in my wayto health.
(15:07):
But I learned, for somebody whohas cancer, the keto diet,
which was pretty much where Iwas at that, took me from being
50 pounds overweight to ahealthy point where my doctor
thought I didn't have cancerwith a giant lump sticking out
of my neck because I was just sodarn healthy for a 58-year-old
(15:28):
guy told me that you know, likeyou were saying, you can fix
parts of your body dramaticallywhile still leaving parts
completely unaligned orunserviced.
(15:48):
And I learned, you know, withdealing with cancer, that the
plant-based diet is instrumentalin a healing journey and,
combined with many differentthings, you know people think,
oh, you can't have sugar.
But it turns out if you eatwhole fruit as a primary food
(16:09):
source and you limit yourprotein dramatically, there's a
huge thing that happens.
And I believe I know a guy whowas a good friend of mine, I've
known since high school and hewas in a bad injury and ended up
, you know, being veryoverweight.
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But he always worked out.
He was a you know gym rat andeven though his knees, legs were
all messed up, he'd alwaysworked out.
He was a you know gym rat andeven though his knees, legs were
all messed up, he'd always getout there and pump that iron.
And eventually he found thiscarnivore diet and kind of
started out as a keto thing andhe switched over to the
carnivore thing and he lost aton of weight and I, you know he
(16:49):
tried to hand that to me whileI was dealing with my thing,
after I had already learned whatI learned.
I'm like, dude, it might workfor you but it's definitely not
for me.
The keto thing helped me lose alot of weight.
I cut out all the sugar, I cutout all the bread, the carbs,
and I ate a lot of healthy fatsand protein.
Intermittent fasting was huge.
(17:12):
We can get into that in a bit,but just the source of food.
So tell me, where do you comefrom with that?
It sounds like you're verystrong into the vegan side of
things.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Yeah, no, this is this is.
You've touched on so manyreally important things.
I, I I will say before I diveinto what I my thoughts on your
comment is how emotionally tiedpeople are to their food, their
food choices.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
It's almost political you know, like you know, the
hardest things I did was give upmy meat and fish.
I mean, I even had a guy whotold me what I needed to know
months before I accepted it.
I was just like no, I know I'm-.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
This is like part of my identity.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Yeah, I'm not going to give that up.
And then when you learn thethings you learn, you're like,
well, what do you want?
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Yeah.
So I do like to preface it withthat, because I need people to
check themselves sometimes andthey get really emotionally tied
to like, oh well, I'm not goingto listen to this person
anymore because they're sayingthings that I don't you know,
fundamentally don't believe.
I have, you know, harnessed myline of work in the longevity
space and it's important tounderstand that longevity to me
(18:38):
when you because that word isthrown around all the time like
longevity, longevity, but whatdo you mean?
What I mean by longevity isthat I want my body to be
functioning at the best possibleplace when I am chronologically
very old, right, like I want mycells to be functioning younger
than my chronological age.
That's what I mean.
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That's going to be differentthan you know, being in a really
chiseled, you know, body thatit can, you know, has an eight
pack.
That might look different.
You know, it doesn't have to bedifferent, but it might look
different for somebody withdifferent health goals.
But so I need to be very clearabout what I mean From a
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longevity perspective.
There is a way of eating thathas been studied and researched
and has evidence behind it thatsupports cellular health and
reducing your biological age,which is the age of your cells
and ultimately that is whathealthspan is is reducing the
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age of your cells, and that'sgoing to be different than the
age on your license or on yourbirth certificate, right?
And that kind of composition iswhat we call the longevity diet
, which is also, you know,coined by Dr Walter Longo, but
plant-based, plant-forwardeating.
And I don't want to sayplant-based because it doesn't
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mean that animal products don'thave a place in a healthy
lifestyle, but the emphasisisn't on animals.
So, mostly in the United States, especially in Western culture,
we have made animal productsmeat, milk, yogurts, cheese as
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the centerpiece of our plate,when it really should be a
supplement to our diet.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
So, yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
So plant forward eating is really critical to
living a long time, and part ofthat is twofold.
One, the fiber component.
Plant-based, plant-based foodshave a ton of fiber and when we
have fiber is the prebiotic foodthat are the those gut microbes
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in our, in our, in our gut eatto keep them alive.
And if we don't keep, if wekeep supplementing with
probiotics but then go and eat acarnivore diet and aren't
feeding them fiber, you're notgoing to be.
You're basically plantingflowers and letting them die
outside.
That's not.
It doesn't help keep them alive.
So fiber is critical and ourearly human ancestors, the way
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that we evolved, was by eatinglittle bits of a lot of
different plants we used toconsume Whatever we could find
we used to consume upwards of a100 grams of fiber a day easily.
That's how we evolved and nowmost of us are struggling to get
20 grams of fiber a day fromlike the standard American diet.
So that's the first key.
(21:34):
But you brought up a really,really, and I'm happy.
I don't even have to convinceyou because you already know,
already know.
But the other component to plantforward eating is staying below
, and this is I'm going to tryto explain this in a way that's
(21:55):
not so heady.
But when you are trying to keepyour cells younger, you want to
make sure that the nutrientsensing pathways in your body
and we have three main nutrientsensing pathways in our body and
we have three main nutrientsensing pathways in our body we
have IGF-1, mtor and PKA.
Igf-1, I think, is probably themost popular.
People probably know that onefrom eating carbohydrates and
proteins and things.
But if you stay below, if youdon't trigger those pathways in
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your body, your cells will notgrow.
So, basically, those nutrientsensing pathways are growth
pathways.
And if you don't have anywherefor growth to go and I'll give
you an example so let's sayyou're eating 150 grams of
protein and all you're doing fora workout is like briskly
(22:40):
walking or you're you knowyou're not, you're not really
growing your muscles at all,triggering eating a hundred
grams of protein, which which iswill trigger the IGF-1 and mTOR
pathways, the two of thenutrient sensing pathways in our
body.
If you eat all that protein andyou don't have to grow anything
, you're not growing muscles,you're not growing a brain,
(23:01):
you're not doing any of that.
You're still going to growsomething and growth is going to
age.
It's going to age your cellsfaster, that's that's
essentially what's happeninghere, so um cancer cells work
with the mTOR pathway.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
That's the thing that I don't.
You know.
That comes up all the time.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Yep, so I, I work, I'm, I'm, uh'm not only the
director of communications, butI'm a medical science educator
at Alnutra.
And Alnutra is a leadinglongevity science company and we
have upwards of 25 years ofresearch and development, over
47 clinical trials, of which athird of those are, if not more,
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in human trials.
Looking all at thesenutrient-sensing pathways and
their impact, specifically howfasting can impact them.
But you know also how proteinimpacts them and glucose impacts
them, accelerate those nutrientsensing pathways faster than
plant-based sources of protein,which is really important to
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note, because when you talkabout low protein.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
It's important to remember because that really
triggers people.
They're like what do you mean?
Speaker 2 (24:19):
I'm not going to do protein.
You go to the store and you seeprotein everywhere.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Oh, and it's having a heyday right now.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Whoa, oh yeah Whoa.
Everyone is eating way too much, but the story here is that you
do need amino acids and proteinfor almost every single process
in your body, so there is areason why people are so
obsessed with it.
It is so important.
It's right behind water.
Protein is used for just abouteverything that our body needs,
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so there's a reason why it'simportant to have, and you need
to get, adequate sources ofprotein.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
But your body recycles protein at an amazing
rate.
All those amino acids they gettaken apart, put back together.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Our body is highly, highly resourceful, for sure.
But if you're not, if you, ifyou're not utilizing it, it's
going to go either to it's goingto get stored on your body as
fat, or it's going, and or it'sgoing to age your cells and and
all of that is linked to higherdisease risk, you know, higher
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cancer risk, accelerated aging,which you know again, all all of
which is what we're trying toavoid when we're talking about,
you know, living in a long,healthy body.
So you know, plant-basedproteins are a great place to be
in this happy medium to helpyou get enough protein, but not
to accelerate that aging, theaging pathway faster.
Plant-based sources of proteinsare incredible for that, and
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they also provide a ton of fiber.
So plant forward eating is oneof the cornerstones, fundamental
cornerstones, of living a longand healthy life and actually
preventing disease.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
I couldn't agree more .
Well, you know, this is a spotwhere I recognize that we have a
lot more we could talk aboutForever.
I would like to invite you tocome back and continue this
conversation.
We didn't talk about water, wedidn't talk about fasting, we
didn't talk about so many things, but I would like a little more
about L-neutra and just howthat that works.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Sure, and I I'll.
So.
One of the one of the pillarsof the longevity zones, the blue
zones around the world, is thefact that they all fast, they
all have, they all follow yearlyperiodic fasting.
And our founder, dr WalterLongo, is the godfather of this
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space.
He, he was an oncologyresearcher for many years and
was studying cancer patientsactually and researching cancer
patients and had found you know,over almost 30 years ago now
that those who fasted in andaround chemotherapy actually did
better with chemotherapy, likethe chemotherapy worked better
in their body and also theyrecovered faster after
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chemotherapy, preaching mygospel, that's two days or one
day after.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
There's published papers all over the place.
Yep Living proof.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Yep, yep, and he actually has since founded a
nonprofit organizationspecifically on cancer.
So he knows this very well.
But one of his researchquestions at the time and this
is why El Nutro was born um isthat, you know, oncology
patients um tend to be.
They're the mostimmunocompromised of our
(27:34):
population and they alreadystruggle to eat.
It's a lot of them struggle toeat and you're not, you know
there's there also is thisbalance of we don't want them to
fast we are already strugglingto get enough food Like we don't
want you to also avoid and fastand that's also not good.
So he had this researchquestion.
He's like okay, we know thepower of fasting, this is clear.
(27:56):
But for our mostimmunocompromised people, what
are?
What are we going to do forthem?
How can we, how can we makesure that they get the benefits
of autophagy, which is thatcellular rejuvenation that
happens during fasting, that'sso powerful?
How can we help them activatethat pathway without avoiding
food altogether?
So in came the fasting mimickingdiet, which is, which is
(28:16):
essentially a um a five yeah,it's a five day program.
That um is we took.
It took us many, many years tofigure this out, but there's a
very precise ratio of macro tomicronutrients that is enveloped
within the program.
So each day is a very specific,unique amount of macronutrients
(28:37):
.
So you get to eat food, but itstays below those
nutrient-sensing pathways thatwe talked about before.
But it stays below thosenutrient sensing pathways that
we talked about before, so thatyou still activate autophagy on
day three, four, five, six andseven.
But you'd get food and you getnourished, and so it's a lot
(28:58):
easier and safer for most people, because water fasting is not
necessarily safe for everybody.
No-transcript.
(29:25):
Obviously you'll see benefitsafter one cycle, but the
benefits compound the more thatyou do it.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Every practice change , you know it takes your body,
shows you what it did.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
And it's and it takes a second.
I mean especially for us adultslike, we have a lot of toxins
and sludge and things that wehave.
It's hard to work all that outin one cycle but you, you can
over time.
Um, but essentially, uh, nowL-nutra has two different, two
different arms we have we have,um, the, the main fasting
mimicking diet, Prolon, thatmost people know and love,
(29:58):
that's been on the commercialmarket for the past nine years,
almost 10 years, um, that youcan purchase on your own.
You know people use it forweight loss, for metabolic
health, it's wonderful forhelping to, you know, reset your
relationship with food too.
There's lots of, like you know,anecdotal evidence to support
that.
You know, decreased sugarcravings and improved
self-confidence and all thesereally incredible things.
(30:20):
And we've, since about a year,almost a year and a half ago, we
you're on diabetes medications,heart, you know, cholesterol,
blood pressure medications.
We help to monitor that evenhelp to reduce medications over
(30:51):
time, include laboratory reviews.
So it's their comprehensiveprograms that are helping to
address specifically metabolicconditions.
But we, in down the pipeline,we're working on cancer too.
We're launching our cancerprogram here in the next few
years.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
So we're busy.
We're busy, love it.
Well, it's been amazing hearingabout this.
You know the fact that thethings that you're talking about
are things I discovered.
You know on your own thatworked for me, and I tell people
about these things all the time, and all I have is you know
what I used to be and I can showyou what I am now and get
(31:26):
people to take me for.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
You're a walking proof.
It's incredible.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Well, Melanie, I would love to definitely
continue this conversation inthe future.
As always, I'd like to give youa chance to let people know how
they can reach you and anyfinal parting shot you want to
share with us.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Yeah, sure.
If any of you are interested inlearning about the fasting
mimicking diet, which is trulysomething magical and
science-backed and incredible,you can visit ProlonLifecom,
which is P-R-O-L-O-N-L-I-F-Ecom.
You can look at the Fast andthe Moving Game Diet there.
(32:04):
You can follow us at Prolon onInstagram, facebook and all over
.
If you're looking for mepersonally, I'm on Instagram at
healthandmelnessH-E-A-L-T-H-N-M-E-L-L-N-E-S-S,
and I like to you know it's notsalesy over there.
(32:26):
It's a lot of education,empowerment and lots of tools
and tips for living your bestand most optimized life.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
Wonderful.
Well, I thank you so much forsharing your time with us and
your wisdom, and this has beenanother episode of the Healthy
Living Podcast.
I'm your host, joe Grumbine,and we thank you for your
support and we will see.
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