April 16, 2025 • 53 mins
Let's Connect! Send us a Text Message.
In this soul-deep conversation, Jenee sits down with sacred business mentor and energy alchemist Natalie Dick to explore the healing path of feminine leadership and embodied business. From deconditioning corporate trauma to healing the witch wound, this episode dives into the visceral, spiritual, and energetic transformation women are called into at this time.
Together, they unpack the nervous system’s role in embodiment, why cookie-cutter coaching programs fail deep-feeling women, and how trauma-informed mentorship is the new paradigm. Natalie shares potent tools like swamping and mirror work, while Jenee recounts a raw Bufo healing experience and the importance of anchoring in divine trust. A must-listen for any soul-led woman ready to bring all of herself into her work.
About Natalie: Natalie Dick is a transformational mentor & business alchemist who merges soul wisdom with divine strategy. She helps birth sacred brands for visionary leaders.
FIND NATALIE: Natalie’s Freebie: The Sacred Business Blueprint
Natalie's Website, Natalie's Instagram
OTHER LINKS:
Join the Heart Light Sessions e-mail list
Jenee's Stan Store
Follow Jenee on Instagram @jeneehalstead @heartlightsessions
Buy me a coffee
Check out Jenee's music
CREDITS:
Introduction script: Jessica Tardy
Introduction mix and master: Ed Arnold
Theme Song: "Heart Light" by Jenee Halstead and Dave Brophy
Heart Light Media, LLC - Disclaimer
This podcast is presented solely for entertainment and education purposes. It is not intended as a substitute for the advice of a physician, psychotherapist, or any other qualified professional. We shall in no event be held liable to any party for any reason arising directly or indirectly for the use or interpretation of the information presented in this audio. Copyright 2024, Heart Light Media, LLC - All rights reserved.
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Jenee (00:06):
Welcome to the Heartlight Sessions, a podcast about light
working your way through darktimes.
I'm Jenee Halstead.
I'm a singer-songwriter,holistic vocal coach, intuitive
guide and plant medicinefacilitator.
I'm also a survivor ofchildhood abuse, autoimmune
issues and my 30s.
I'm also a survivor ofchildhood abuse, autoimmune
issues and my 30s.
I'm on a lifelong healingjourney and, along the way, I
(00:28):
want to share the ideas andteachings that rock my world.
Every week on Heart LightSessions, I call in artists,
healers and thinkers to explorewhat's helped them live and
thrive from a heart-centeredplace, because the heart, it's
where the best things happen.
If you've ever wondered how tounlock your biggest
(00:51):
breakthroughs or how to comeback from that stuff that tried
to kill you, you know the stuffI'm talking about, the stuff
that's supposed to make youstronger.
Or if you've ever wondered howto just do you straight from the
heart, you're in the rightplace.
So join me, won't you?
Let's turn on that heart light.
Hello, hello, hello, hello.
(01:21):
I have my business mentor here,looking so stunningly beautiful
, as usual, thank you, thank you.
Natalie (01:31):
Thank you, Jenee, I did my hair for you.
Jenee (01:33):
I got a little dressed up .
I might have dressed to impressa little bit.
Oh my God, I washed my hair.
You put lipstick on.
Natalie (01:43):
You put lipstick on.
Jenee (01:44):
You put lipstick on you put lipstick on a pig and you
know that's kind of how I rollthese days.
I got out of my sweats awesome.
Natalie (01:54):
Well, thank you so much for having me here.
I'm yeah, I mean we met on theworld wide web on the internet
so crazy how long?
Jenee (02:05):
ago was that I feel like we were swimming in each other's
orbits for like was it a year ayear, but I found you
originally because I was so like.
Natalie (02:17):
I remember I was looking up like sound healing,
with just like spiritual soundhealing but like voice lessons,
and I remember I stumbled uponone of your documents and I was
like, oh my God, I love thisgirl, like I loved your energy,
and I mean, as we've gotten tokind of know each other, there's
(02:38):
been a lot of parallels in ourlife and our work and crazy
parallels.
Working together has been justso, so beautiful.
Jenee (02:49):
So I'm just so magical.
Natalie (02:51):
I feel like I'm just so grateful that I A I found you B
just the relationship thatwe're building and what we will
be doing in the future together.
Jenee (03:03):
Yes, so Natalie is an energy alchemy and sacred
business mentor.
Yeah, that has decades ofexperience in the holistic
wellness field.
Is the business coach, businessmentor that feels to you like
(03:30):
kind of a natural, easyprogression, I think.
Natalie (03:33):
Well, I initially really resisted it.
I was like, oh my God, becauseI have a business background I
used to work in corporate andsales and marketing for the big
beauty giant L'Oreal and I leftthat world really traumatized,
really burnt out, reallyoverwhelmed, and I was always
(03:56):
just really obsessed withholistic health and well-being,
which which so on that journeyinto becoming, uh, which was
like a literally 13 year journeyof doing a million things
holistic, which will kind ofunravel when, like business
mentoring, came back into myvantage point, I was like, oh no
(04:20):
, no, no, I don't, I don't workwith women like you, who are,
(04:50):
like myself, the deep depthseeking women who have walked
many, many, many paths of painand through the fire, and I mean
that's, that's why we know eachother.
Jenee (05:07):
Exactly.
Oh my gosh, it's yeah the.
I just have to laugh at likethe parallels, even like the.
Um, okay, so I'm Sag Sag moonand Sag rising.
Natalie (05:19):
Yeah, and I'm a Libra moon sage rising yeah, and I'm a
libra moon sage rising sage sun.
So we're like literally likelike this click, we like click
in um, and we both have thesevery like spunky, fun, fiery
(05:40):
personalities, but we're bothdeeply sensitive and just
fucking intense, intense, all inlike the most beautiful ways,
right.
Jenee (05:51):
Mm-hmm.
Natalie (05:52):
And yeah, and through our journey of getting to know
each other, I just your work andI'm going to highlight your
work is just so profound and soincredible.
It's helped me transition evenbetter into what I meant to do
right and I think that we bothdo that in different
(06:14):
trajectories and people's pathsand journeys, but yeah, I've
adored getting to know you andI'm excited to continue that
(06:36):
journey of friendship andexpansion with you.
Jenee (06:40):
roadblocks for women that they face right now, especially
if they're trying to get out ofworking, maybe corporate, and
they really feel like they havethis deep call and calling for,
like I think a lot of people aregetting called forth now as the
as the planetary energieschange and you know, I mean
(07:04):
there's so many things but I can, can I can look back on my own
journey and what I've had toreally shift and change and it's
it's really to get out of thethat like survival, scarcity and
um, scare, yeah, survival andscarcity.
Natalie (07:23):
We and I I can.
I remember coming out ofcorporate um just being so burnt
out because I was traveling,and it's just an intense bro.
(07:44):
It's like a very patriarchalsystem where you know your
hormones.
There's no place for like, yeah, um, there's no place for the
female like no my hormones werejust really screwed up.
Yeah, yeah yeah it's.
Jenee (07:58):
You know it's very interesting to me, like, as I do
this, deconditioning myself andyou know I'm getting into my
nervous system and learningabout my feminine and kind of
learning how to love myself,like learning how to, you know,
get that system like out of mybody and just realizing like how
(08:23):
I and I think a lot of womenrealize how they don't know
anything about their ownfeminine systems their own their
own natural cycles.
They're, you know, everything iscontrolled and and boxed up and
, you know, pushed down, andit's just.
(08:44):
We can't live that way.
We're seeing the same thinghappen with the planet, you know
, yeah.
Natalie (08:51):
And I think that there's.
There's such an internal pulland an internal calling within.
It's the, that divine I alwayscall it like the just, that
heart centeredness, that divineclicking in, like we're being so
called back into our internalcompass to navigate this reality
(09:14):
from such a different paradigm,such and and I think that's, I
think that is the biggest jobwhen I say, like, getting out of
survival and getting out ofscarcity.
But it's more than that.
It's not that I just don't wantto run a business, I just don't
want to do this because of this, because that's the way it's
(09:35):
been done, but like, how do youget to the real depth of who you
are, which requires, likerooting down, really rooting
down, and finding that spacewithin you?
How do I operate and run mybusiness and market myself from
my own core vibration?
(09:57):
And that is going to be sodifferent than anybody, right,
and we all have differentrhythms and especially women
being squeezed into those.
I mean, I squeezed myself intoso many boxes and I'll I'll even
take it from like moving fromcorporate and then starting my
own holistic nutrition business.
Jenee (10:19):
That was the first thing that I did.
Natalie (10:20):
I was a personal trainer in holistic nutrition
and my my focus was women withdigestions and hormonal issues.
And even moving from corporate,I came from this space of like.
I've got to hustle and forcethis business.
So you take that, that template, and you push it into this
(10:43):
business.
But what you soon come torealize that even in some of the
coaching spaces it's the samething.
Jenee (10:54):
It's the same template.
Natalie (10:56):
It's the same template of here's my system of success.
Use it and you're going to havesuccess.
And that I mean I've investedin a million business coaching
things and I've like I'm talkinglike tens of thousands of
dollars went into major debt andfailed fucking miserably at
(11:20):
them because I was doing theirthing Right.
Jenee (11:23):
Mm-hmm, yep, yeah, and what it takes to really get to
know yourself, you know, and tounderstand your own signature.
And I think, the big thing forme and where I really want to be
focusing my energy for womenand you really helped me with
(11:45):
this and it was right in frontof me and I just didn't see it
was really helping with thewitch wound because I think, you
know, or the priestess wound,or whatever you want to call it,
you know because I think, ontop of you know, all the demands
of the world and yeah, and allthe demands on women.
(12:05):
It's, it's not you know, it's,it's more intense now.
It's not like things got betterbecause women, you know,
because of feminism, and thenwomen were able to, you know,
it's actually, I feel like it'sadded more and more, you know,
onto a woman's plate.
It's like, okay, yeah, you'regoing to work and you're going
to raise your child, as you know, full time, yes, you know, and
(12:50):
where do you find the time?
And then, on top of that,there's if you're, you know, if
you've decided you're, you'regonna, you know, do something in
the world that's forward-facing.
A lot of women, especiallyhealers, have that intense, deep
wound wound, yeah, and thatwound.
Natalie (13:06):
That's why I think any type of templated business
programming that says do this,this was my success.
It is completely missing themark that if you're not working
with somebody who has is traumainformed, who has an
(13:27):
understanding that for you toactually truly become who you're
meant to be, in that like fullexpression, I mean you're
working with like lifetimes,yeah, lifetimes of trauma and
staying small and hiding, andthat shows up in all the many
(13:50):
layers of your business, Like itshows up, how you show up
online, how like puttingtogether that um the group
program, or what is your coreoffering as like, what is your
medicine?
Like sharing your medicine usedto get you burned at the stake.
(14:10):
Of course you're going to hideOf course I hid for so many
years.
Yeah, me too, so many years, andthat is I mean.
(14:40):
But here's the beautiful thingthat I think is really we're in
this pressure cooker right nowwas having this conversation
about really leaning in the oldway of whether it was healing,
whether it was running yourbusiness.
It's all multi-layered in thisway that it's like I got to
really I've got to fix this so Ican perform and I can project
(15:09):
this.
this certain image of who Ithink I want people to be, and
that projection is is often feltincongruently by people now
especially now, and that's why,they're that, that really
rooting down and finding allthose nitty gritty, icky parts
(15:32):
of yourself, like the.
the witch wound is in there,like deep shadow work, Like if,
if we can go in and love allthese parts of ourselves and
really just be with them, thatcomes out as part of the
expression of your medicine.
It's like the wholeness that weare starting to embody.
(15:57):
I think we're just starting tosee such a different leadership
style from women now.
Jenee (16:01):
Yeah, and one of the things I've always said is that
the body is the, it's the bridge, it's the gateway to heaven on
earth, and so that's been thepath for me, and I'm sure it's
been the path for you and andthe and the women that I want to
learn from and the women that Itrust are going into their
(16:25):
bodies and they're moving fromtheir bodies, because that is
where the true intelligencecomes from.
But to do that, you know, toget embodied with all of the
messages and with the witchwound and with the ancestral
wounds, and there's a lot ofshit in there.
Natalie (16:45):
There's a lot of stuff.
There's so much stuff in ourbody that, like, you spend so
much of your life neck up, neckup, neck up is like.
It can feel like a treacherouspath at first because it's like,
(17:06):
oh, I've been so programmed tolive outside of this body.
But, like, when you get in andyou start to settle because it
takes a lot of nervous systemwork to it takes a lot of
nervous system work, a lot ofnervous system work to really
get to the next layer and okay,I'm safe here.
And then you're like, you'regetting a deeper breath and
(17:28):
you're going through all theselayers of deep intensity and
deep traumas, that, that goldthat you get on the other side
of that, it's alchemy when youget into the pain right and
moving through and allowyourself to to truly feel it, to
(17:52):
go to the depths.
And I'm not talking about like,just like, feel your feelings,
but be in those feelings for awhile, because your body hasn't
felt them for so long.
Jenee (18:03):
Yeah, like did you yeah go ahead.
Natalie (18:06):
No, I was going to ask you when you first started
healing, I remember for twoyears, I was literally
completely wiped out.
For two years, two years of mylife, I was completely exhausted
because my body was finallyallowing me to enter, enter,
enter, and that can feel likeyou're going backwards, for sure
(18:30):
?
Jenee (18:31):
Yeah, pardon me.
I started my healing journeyprobably 20 years ago, but I was
still very like in thespiritual.
It was a lot of like spiritualrealm stuff, and so I was in
these upper chakras for a verylong time.
Natalie (18:49):
Yeah.
Jenee (18:50):
We've talked a lot about that, you know, and it wasn't, I
think, until I really startedto do this work with other other
women and I had my firstiteration of my business and
just really couldn't get it offthe ground and I was like I
(19:10):
don't believe what I'm teachingand I am afraid to go somewhere.
You know, and and now that Ifacilitate psychedelics and
Philip and I always talk abouthow you, when you sit in a
container with with afacilitator, you can only go as
(19:30):
deep as your facilitator is gone.
You know, and that's exactlythe same for someone who's, you
know, helping you walk through aprogram, helping you launch
your business.
You know, it's like, yeah, it'sthat kind of multifaceted
(19:54):
aspect of you.
Natalie (19:54):
Know someone who's kind of gone through the alchemical
fire.
Yeah, and it's funny becauseI've somebody asked me the other
day, um, because, uh, becauseI'm single, and they're like,
what, what are you looking forin a man?
And I look for this in teachersand mentors.
I'm like, please tell me thatyou've walked through some type
of fire and you have come out onthe other side, because I have
(20:17):
been to the depths of hellmyself.
And if I can't share that depthwith you and you doesn't mean
that you have to have to havegone on the same path um, but if
there's, if there is nounderstanding or relatability of
where I've been, it's, it'skind of lost.
(20:39):
Yeah, right, and that is um,it's deep work.
Jenee (20:44):
It is deep work and there's a deep sense of trust
when you're with someone who'swho's gone through that, you
know.
I think it creates like anunspoken language and I was
wondering what one of yourfavorite shadow working
exercises is or if you could runus through something.
Natalie (21:06):
Swamping for sure.
Swamping.
So, um, and this isn't mine, Ijust I remember reading about it
from Mama Gina and I didn't, Ididn't take her course, but I, I
just read it and I was like ohwow, and it kind of circulated
through my intellect for for alittle while.
And then I remember um goingthrough a really, really dark
(21:34):
period and I, I was goingthrough deep scarcity.
Um, and I remember I was, I waspart of what I do is I do a lot
of mirror work too and Iremember sitting in front of the
mirror and I could feelsomething shadow coming in, like
(21:57):
my deepest fears, like what,what is coming up, and one of my
deepest fears was, you know,scarcity.
I'm not going to have enoughmoney to do this.
Whatever, whatever the story is, and I can, I can feel it and
I'm in, I'm really in resistanceto that.
I can feel my body clampingCause it's like you can't go
there because you can feelscarcity.
It's a it's start, you start todo this work.
Jenee (22:19):
It becomes.
Natalie (22:21):
It becomes this very visceral in my body, where I was
like, oh fuck, no, I need to gohere.
I need to go and look right atthe shadow, so swamping for me,
um and I don't even know if thisis how Mama Gina does, but this
is what I came up with, whatI've been doing, what I've been
teaching clients.
(22:41):
I allowed that energy and thatshadow to fully embody me and I
started swamping around as whatI in my mind's eye or in my body
, and the biggest fear is likeyou're going to be fucking
homeless.
You're going to I don't know,have to prostitute yourself Like
(23:02):
you die in the streets, likedie on the streets and like you
go to the place that you areabsolutely buck, fucking wild,
afraid of.
Jenee (23:12):
Sorry, I swear, no, I love, I love swearing on a
little bit of a potty mouththing, I have a bit of a potty
mouth.
Natalie (23:19):
My favorite thing I have a bit of a potty mouth.
So, in the mirror, I reallyallowed myself, I allowed that
really dark place of my shadowto really come and embody it and
really let her play out throughme.
And then, right after that, Imean, if anybody saw me do this,
(23:44):
they'd just be like this girl'slike that shit crazy.
And I'm like, yeah, so after,after allowing this swamping, or
this, this deep dark shadowenergy, this one of your deepest
fears, to actually like flowthrough me, I was like, oh man,
that that wasn't that bad.
And like the amount.
So I want you to think of, like, how much your body holds, like
(24:07):
it's like this bracing, you'reresisting, resisting, resisting.
And when you let that shadowcome through your body and you
embody it, like with love, withlove it comes through and you're
just like taken over and youact it out as the expression, as
your body is art, and you'reletting it move through you, and
(24:29):
then the the spaciousness andexpansion that you have
thereafter is like it's dreamy.
It's like all the shit on theother side of that fear of
scarcity is like it's dreamy.
It's like it is dream.
All the shit on the other sideof that fear of scarcity is like
, oh okay, I went there.
Was it that bad?
No, no, it wasn't that bad.
(24:50):
It wasn't that bad, I'm sure,in real life.
But like that resistance andthat bracing and that's part of
that survival that lives in ourbody.
And when you get into it andyou act it out and you let that
um move through you, it's thespaciousness that I had for the
(25:11):
entire six months after thatfrom just letting that shadow
move through me was likeabsolutely incredible yeah, it's
so interesting and it's wild.
Jenee (25:21):
It's wild that we're so terrified, you know, we're like
so terrified to feel thosethings and the ego is just like
puts that, you know that clampon it like no, and then when you
go through it I had anexperience experience with with
bufo we went and sat with um,our teacher, down in mexico and,
um, it was a crazy day.
(25:45):
It was like I I started gettingvery nervous and I was like I'm
not gonna go.
And I remember the day before Ihad pulled from the shamanic
deck, I had pulled the butterflycard.
Natalie (25:57):
You're like you know, it's like transformation yeah.
Jenee (26:00):
So then we get to the beach and like it's like a
million butterflies, like justthousands of butterflies going
at each way, and Alfonso waslike, oh, this is a great day,
this is very auspicious, likewhere we have the two winds of
the seasons changing and thebutterflies are, you know, here
(26:21):
and as they're, they're movingthrough their migration, and so
the days get going on.
We're on the beach, it'sgetting hotter and hotter and
everybody's going and I'm likegetting more nervous.
I'm like I'm I'm not gonna go.
Oh, my god, you know I'm gonnago shit my pants first your
body's like bracing, emptybracing, yeah, yeah and it's
like every time I I step up tothe plate with that medicine,
(26:43):
I'm terrified, and most peopleare, and that's very normal and
healthy.
But yeah, it was interestingbecause, um, what came through
was like a holding, because whatthat medicine does is really
it's first and foremost a bodymedicine and it, it, it rings a
combo I know it was.
(27:04):
It's bufo.
Oh, like everybody thinks thatbufo is like.
Yes, it does have god, I, Idon't, yeah, I don't know enough
about it, but yeah, but I meanthe, the kind of um most people
the idea of it is is of this,like crown chakra, and then
you're out of your body, youknow which that happens, but
(27:26):
it's very much a body medicine,like I think, first and foremost
, and it rings you out and soGod comes in, or source comes
into your body, and I felt it.
Source comes into your body andI felt it and it was like it was
coming in and pushing out allof the terror that I've ever had
(27:46):
of my whole life, of like beinga woman giving birth, like all
of these, these holdings that Ihad in my, in my body.
It was just this like completeterror of like life.
It was just being afraid ofliving and being afraid of life,
and that's wild, yeah.
(28:08):
And not having a child, becausepart of the reason why I didn't
have the have a child wasbecause of a long line of like
abuse and and also I didn'tthink I would be a good parent
and I was also like terrified ofthe whole process and so I'm
like I've got my legs up and I'mjust ripping, like screaming.
(28:32):
It was the scream of like acentury.
This was a scream of likelifetimes and at that same
moment, like a guttural whale,realize that's a spiritual path
(28:58):
to hold, like that to tocontract or to um shut down or
to be kind of taken by anaddiction or something you know,
like that is a really hard butdeep spiritual path and that
like changed my whole mind aboutsuffering and addiction and I
(29:21):
just have so much morecompassion for everyone that I
see, yeah, cause we're holdingthat in our bodies.
Natalie (29:29):
Yeah, and sometimes our bodies just won't allow us to
go into it.
So, yeah, for whatever reason,the coping mechanism is to
survive and move on and drink,yeah, or do whatever.
Do whatever.
Wow, that's really profound.
(29:51):
I've I have yet to do bufo andI have a very funny feeling.
Jenee (29:54):
My first bufo experience will be with you I know I keep
trying to get you to go down.
Natalie (30:00):
It'll happen.
It's going to happen.
I'll be down soon.
I'll be down soon.
Jenee (30:03):
Yep, talk a little bit about mirror work too.
I'd love to.
I'd love to learn a little bitabout your process.
Do you have like a?
Do you have several things thatyou do?
Natalie (30:16):
So it's interesting, I, I integrate mirror work when I
think, when people are, whenwomen are really, um, it's
through that, like getting intothe body, when, when they're
very in their head, I findmirror work really profound
because when I first startedwhen I'll give you an example of
when I first started doingmirror work um, I'll give you an
(30:49):
example of when I first starteddoing mirror work you can
really pick up on the subtlenuances of what's actually
happening if you just keepstaring for long enough.
There is so much that getsrevealed to you through the
mirror, just looking into youreyes, and so mirror work for me.
I use it as a way to connectwith the body.
It's like how do you relate toyour body?
Do you love your body?
A lot of women don't have thatconnection to their body.
(31:11):
So witnessing themselves in themirror just caressing their
shoulder or twirling their hairor just touching their face,
just just being with themselves,I always feel like it's the
masculine in you.
Witnessing the feminineexpression in the mirror, it's
like you're you're seeing allthese really beautiful parts of
(31:33):
yourself and sometimes uglyparts, right, but it's through
the lens of compassion where youget to really um.
You really get into many, manylayers of the self.
You can even start to see um.
Your ancestors show up in themirror.
You start to see um past lives.
(31:53):
It is like if you do it, if youpractice it long enough, it
like I've.
I feel like I've hadpsychedelic trips and for sure
where.
I mean I'm very visual in myintuition, like I'm very
sensitive to energy, so I amvery attuned to a lot of nuance.
So when I'm doing mirror workit is, I think, taking people
(32:19):
through it.
It's very uncomfortable atfirst Because we often have so
much criticism about ourselves,Such lifetimes and lifetimes of
trauma, but then the world andhow we're supposed to look and
if you it's just a lot of ourworth is really wrapped up in
(32:42):
how we look.
And this, this is something thatI I've had to really unpack.
I mean, I heard it from from mymother a lot growing up, like,
oh well, you're good looking andand I'm like, oh, does that,
does that mean that I should getthe job?
Does that mean it's like it'ssuch deep programming, right?
So when you sit in front of themirror, whether you have makeup
(33:06):
on or not, you start to learnhow to soften and have such deep
compassion for all thesedifferent expressions of
yourself.
It's really wild.
Have you done mirror?
Jenee (33:20):
work.
Oh yeah, I've done a lot ofmirror work on psychedelics.
Natalie (33:25):
Oh man, I have not done that.
Like I feel like mirror workalone is like okay tell me about
that.
Jenee (33:32):
Oh man, tripping balls on like ayahuasca or mushrooms and
going and hanging out withyourself in front of the mirror
can be like traumatizing wild.
I mean just wild, like, yeah, I.
So I like to kind of look pastmyself like a little bit and
(33:53):
I'll look like just right pastmy head or you know, yeah, into
the mirror and, um, sometimes itcan be like terrifying,
terrifyingly overwhelming, yeah.
So I just I make sure andbreathe, really breathe into it
and get curious about like who,who's there, what's this showing
(34:14):
me?
And I've seen versions ofmyself that are a lot of like
Aboriginal or, you know, native,like old, old ancestry Guides.
I've seen my yeah, guides.
(34:34):
I've seen myself as an alien,like a Liran, like Starseed or
Liren, you know they're the cat,cat beings or whatever, oh man,
just like so many and andtribal markings.
And you know, I've seen myselfas an old woman and that's
(34:58):
always like a trip, you know,it's like whoa, okay, yeah, you
know.
And to kind of sit with thatand be like, okay, there she is,
yeah, she's, she's dope,instead of being like, oh my God
, there she is and like saggingjowls and holy shit, she looks
creepy.
(35:19):
And just being like, being likeI've I've kind of met.
I've been doing a lot of workrecently where I've been meeting
my, my future, my future wiseself, you know, yeah, and it's
really, it's like you see theeyes and that's the same thing
with mirror work, it's the eyesnever change.
Natalie (35:44):
No, I know it's so.
In in my mirror work I do a lotof like, like directly into the
eyes, and then it's likeeverything softens.
So it's that steady focus inthe eyes that allows the, this
transformation of the face too.
So it's, it's probably the samething.
It's like focusing over here orfocusing I I tend to focus on
(36:08):
the, on my.
My mentor in Chicago gave methat, that practice about 10
years ago and that was I waslike, was like oh man, this is
deep shit, like there's so muchthat you can see in the mirror.
And it's not, it's like it.
(36:28):
It's not like a 3d physicalreflection.
This is like layers and layersof your multi-dimensional self
being exposed and you got to beready for that because it's like
really deep and reallybeautiful, so that, yeah, that
is that's one of the one of the.
(36:48):
I feel like there's so manythings like and it just it's,
it's so unique because I feellike the women that are coming
to me now are like you you'vedone a lot of that deep body
work you've done, and now it'slike how do I, how do I take all
of this?
Knowing, because here's alsowhat I've noticed in the healing
(37:09):
industry is like you can justkeep healing maybe just stay
healing and you can just getmore information and you can
just keep going, keep healing,and I call it the um, the wound.
You pick off the scab and youjust keep picking at it.
Right, I know you can do thatand I used to do that.
And then I'm like you know whatI've got.
(37:31):
I've got it.
What am I going to do with thisnow?
What am I going to do with this, all this information that I
got?
Um, so I tend to be getting alot of women who have done that
deep, heavy in their body,nervous system work.
I mean, I used to teach this inmy healing practice.
(37:53):
But now I'm getting the womenwho are like I'm ready to
fucking take action, I'm readyto move with all the baggage
that I uncovered, all of theintensity, and this is like
having so much compassion andlove for all the parts of you,
(38:14):
all the parts of you, and you'relike we're going to bring all
of you into the medicine now youand you're like we're going to
bring all of you into themedicine now.
Jenee (38:22):
Yeah, I know, I think you've said I mean I think I've
talked to you like several timesabout I need to do something
else, or I need more, moretraining, and you're like you do
not need more training?
No, and that's it's uncoveringwhat is there, and that's what
you know I'm in the process ofdoing with you.
Natalie (38:38):
Yeah, and I think that I mean I did that.
I went on like, oh, I don'thave enough knowledge, and I
always think that everythingthat you are, so and it's like
you already know that, when youlike, when I studied holistic
nutrition, it was very easy forme because I'm like I know this
(39:02):
from a past life.
Jenee (39:03):
When I studied energetics .
Natalie (39:05):
I was already doing it, but it's just giving me
contextualization for the skillsthat I already had.
With most healers we have likesuch an abundance of skill set
already innately within us, andthen we look out here to get the
(39:26):
program to confirm somethingthat we already have inside of
us.
When, like your work, janae,like when you are doing your
sound healing with me, you don'tlearn that shit in a book.
Jenee (39:44):
You can't learn that?
Natalie (39:45):
stuff you can't learn.
That that is God and the divinesaying get out of the way I'm
coming through.
And it's your unique energy andskill set that can hold.
You can be that conduit right.
And when you have done thedepth of work that you have done
(40:06):
, you then open yourself up tobeing that conduit and the
divine is like let me take over.
And that's what makes yoursession so powerful, because you
get out of the way Exactly.
And that, I think, is that issuch a like you do you so
(40:29):
beautifully that no modality isgoing to ever like confirm what
you do.
Jenee (40:40):
Do you know what I mean?
Yeah, and that's the thing,like so many people and that's,
you know that's fine, but youknow it's like get the, you know
somatic, experiencing, you knowcertificate, if, if you need
the language, like you had saidto me, you know.
But like, really, it is so muchabout uncovering.
You know it's not about addingit's, it's actually about
uncovering and that's like forme, this last year, that's what
(41:04):
it's been about.
You know.
It's like and those codes areliving in your field, like you
know those gifts, yeah, and yourDNA and those gifts are coming,
especially now.
Now, as we're moving through,you know, this planetary
ascension, and more, more of thelight codes are streaming in.
It's like people's gifts arejust going to pop off.
Natalie (41:29):
They be popping.
Yeah, they be popping.
They be popping right now, youknow, but it's really.
Jenee (41:35):
Yeah, it is it's a matter of like actually trusting
yourself and not looking aroundand being like, oh my god, a lot
of person in this person dothat.
It doesn't.
I don't see myself, and that'sthe thing I was like.
I don't see myself in any ofthese people and it's like no
shit, sherlock, yeah and it isalso know we're dissolving the
(42:00):
illusion that we are separatefrom God.
Exactly and from each other.
Natalie (42:05):
And from each other.
But I think you hit the nail onhead.
I got to trust myself, but youalso have to put faith and trust
in something far bigger thanyou, which is always it's hard
for people, something far biggerthan you, which is it's hard
always people, that that is, uh,that's a really big one.
That's, I think, what I wentthrough, and probably my deepest
(42:26):
learning in the last four yearswas like oh, because your ego
gets involved in healing your,your ego really wants to drive
the ship, and that was me for solong.
I'm like oh well, I'm thishealer and this is my identity,
and that was part of like Ican't go into business coaching
(42:47):
or business mentorship, like I'ma healer.
Jenee (42:49):
Yeah, even though you were being called forward in a
different way.
Natalie (42:54):
Nah, you're going to go in this direction, right, and
that's that you know.
When we go into the depths ofthe body and we really start to
anchor into ourselves, weunderstand that there is
something far bigger that'sholding us, that's guiding us,
that is trying so desperately tocome through us.
(43:19):
And I mean you.
I experience that, that divinenature, in your sessions and
like if, and you can feel itwhen you go to somebody who has
read a book and they're givingyou the template versus somebody
who's really fucking embodiedin their work, who is walking
that path.
(43:40):
So I think we're at a reallycool time right now where you
know, whether you call it Christconsciousness coming through
each and every one of us,whether you want to call it.
Just like this major ascensiontrip where there's massive
amounts of light codes pouringin from these solar flares.
(44:01):
We are ascending at such a fastspeed that there's so much
density getting kicked out ofour energy field where it's like
the divine's like no, no, no,I'm with you, I'm here to carry
you too.
Jenee (44:15):
And it's the same thing like with Bufo no, I'm with you,
I'm here to carry you too, andit's the same thing, like with
Bufo, like it's the exact, likesame metaphor.
I mean, it's what's happeningis so, just as Bufo pushes all
that stuff out of your body andit's like this scream that's
what's happening on the planet.
Natalie (44:32):
So everybody thinks that, like we're devolving you
know we're getting worse and I'mlike, no, this is, it's like I
want you to think of, like howtrauma goes into the body,
trauma in, trauma out.
Yeah, you got, you have toexperience the like, the
collective shadow and all thedensity on the planet.
I'm like let it, let it come uplike, let it rise and let it be
(44:57):
seen and cleansed and purifiedand it, yeah, and the best thing
we can do I think, as like allof this is, you know, happening,
it's like, yes, help where youcan if you feel like there's
some sort of physical thing youcan do.
Jenee (45:13):
You know um giving money or or donating food or whatever.
But I mean, I've had so manypeople laugh at me but like,
honestly, the I think the bestthing you can do is is hold and
witness, and hold a loving spacefor what's coming up, and pray
and you know, and and some ofthis stuff is just like you
(45:35):
can't like what's happening inthe middle east.
It's you can't even wrap yourhead around how, how horrifying
it is, you know, but it's like,well, what can I do from here?
You know, what can I do in mycommunity?
What can I do?
Just like when I see people inmy freaking apartment complex?
Natalie (45:55):
you know, it's like I can hold that space, you know,
in space go ahead I was gonnasay, space holding is one of
those things that is sounderrated, so underrated and it
doesn't doesn't require a crazyamount of skill set, like
holding space and just lettingsomeone be where they need to be
(46:18):
, whether that's like somebodythrown a fricking anger, temper,
tantrum or crying or whateverit is.
Whatever it is, let them be init.
Jenee (46:31):
Yeah, I think it's actually the hardest thing to do
.
Natalie (46:35):
Super hard.
Well, especially if it's family, especially if it's family or
people that you know, I thinkit's, it's, I think that they
should teach that in schools.
Like, how do you hold space?
How do you, how do you holdspace for somebody's like big
emotions, or just moving throughsomething, or just without
(46:57):
interjecting and informing, oryou know?
Jenee (47:02):
Or offering a solution, or yeah, you know.
Natalie (47:05):
It's like finding this Nobody wants to hear a solution
when they're in their shit.
Right, yeah, that going back tolike what can we do?
Tend to your inner world.
Yep, like I heard this quotethe other day, I forget from who
.
I was listening to a podcastwhile I was cleaning and it's
like how do you expect to havepeace on earth and end wars out
(47:31):
here when you are at war withyourself?
Yourself when you are when youhave no peace within yourself,
how can you, how can you fixthat outside of yourself?
Jenee (47:43):
Yeah, you can't.
It starts with each of us firstand that's the greatest work
that you can do.
Natalie (47:50):
Yeah, you know, that's the greatest work that you can
do work that you can do, becauseit it's a, it's an energetic
rippling, because it it lands.
Jenee (48:03):
It just it goes so far when you are working on yourself
yeah, as above, so below, as in, as out you know, amen, amen
yeah I can't believe we'realmost up to an hour.
Oh, my goodness, we are.
That was so good.
Can you um give the, thelisteners, a little bit of like
(48:30):
a taste of of what you'reoffering now, maybe talk?
Natalie (48:34):
about?
Yeah, so it's mixing businessand energetics.
So where do I want to start?
If you want to start, I have aa free download that you could
join.
It's called the sacred businessblueprint and it's just a
really beautiful journey.
(48:55):
You were talking earlier about,you know, communing with your
higher self and seeing her, andit's a really beautiful
transmission where you get to goon a journey it's a mini course
and you meet your higher, wiserbusiness self and you get to
receive all these beautifulenergetic codes and frequencies
(49:15):
and then there's littlepractices to come out of that,
to integrate and how you canstart taking little actionable
steps in your business.
So that would I would startthere.
Um, I have a really excitingprogram coming up called the
devotion code.
I just ran the beta program withum, about six of my
(49:37):
long-standing lovely clients,and it's going to be launching
mid-may and it is the, the realjourney of learning to trust
with the divine.
It's been probably my deepestwork in the last five years and
it is really learning to open tothe, the trust of the divine.
(50:01):
How does the divine speakthrough you?
How to it's?
Basically, how do I reallyanchor into my intuition?
And when we can lead from thatinner compass, it's like, okay,
now I'm in partnership with this, like like co-creating with
something that's bigger than me,and it's, it's a okay, now I'm
in partnership with this, likelike co-creating with something
that's bigger than me, and it'sit's a really beautiful process.
(50:22):
So that's going to be comingout in May and then I offer, you
know, one-on-one work and somementorship.
That is about igniting yourmagnetism so that you can stand
in the truth and the realexpression of who you are.
Jenee (50:39):
Yeah, it's been life-changing working with you.
I've done many business coursesand this has been by far the
most profound work that I've hadthe opportunity to do with you.
Natalie (50:54):
So I highly recommend working with Natalie, and when
we get your offers up andrunning, watch out, you got to
get in with watch out world,jenna is coming, her, her,
you're, you're so talented andso thank you.
Jenee (51:12):
Multi, passionate, multifaceted multi passionate
about too many things.
Natalie (51:20):
But, but we're're, that's the thing.
You are so expansive and sovast, we got to bring that out
into the world because we can'tdilute any parts of you.
Right?
You're so powerful in what youdo and the world needs that you
have that gift.
Jenee (51:34):
I've been so grateful that, just to be witnessed, and
that gift that you have of beinglike nope and we're bringing
this in too and this is afoundational piece, you know
that I've like I'm going tocompartmentalize that part of
myself.
Natalie (51:51):
I'm like no, no, no, we're bringing all of you into
your business You're you're toopowerful to dilute and pick and
choose.
You're just like boom, all ofyou.
Jenee (52:02):
Oh, I have to have you back on.
This was so fun.
Natalie (52:04):
Sure Anytime.
I feel like we like justscratched the surface.
I know we I mean we've had somepretty deep conversations that
go in many, many differentdirections.
I feel like I could talk to youforever, but thank you so much
for having me on.
I love you so much and it'sjust such an honor to walk
through the fire with you.
Jenee (52:25):
Thank you so much and I'll put the blueprint up, um in
my description.
I'll have that share so peoplecan download it and they can
find information about yourprograms and your one to one
Awesome Thank you.
Thank you, have a great day.
You, too, find informationabout your programs and your
one-to-one Awesome, thank you.
Natalie (52:40):
Thank you.
Have a great day you too.
Jenee (52:48):
The Heart Light Sessions podcast is executive produced
and hosted by me, Jenee Halstead.
It's edited, mixed and masteredby me too.
And that theme song you hear?
It's called Heart Light.
And yep, you guessed it, it'sfrom my record and mastered by
me too.
And that theme song you hear?
It's called Heart Light.
And yep, you guessed it, it'sfrom my record Disposable Love.
Got questions about a certainhealing modality or about
heart-centered healing, or maybeyou just need some advice on
life, love or creativity?
(53:08):
Send it my way, email me atletters at
heartlightpodcastdotcom.
Until next time, I'm JeneeHalstead, and thanks for
listening to Heart LightSessions.
Welcome to the Heartlight Sessions, a podcast about light
working your way through darktimes.
I'm Jenee Halstead.
I'm a singer-songwriter,holistic vocal coach, intuitive
guide and plant medicinefacilitator.
I'm also a survivor ofchildhood abuse, autoimmune
issues and my 30s.
I'm also a survivor ofchildhood abuse, autoimmune
issues and my 30s.
I'm on a lifelong healingjourney and, along the way, I
(00:28):
want to share the ideas andteachings that rock my world.
Every week on Heart LightSessions, I call in artists,
healers and thinkers to explorewhat's helped them live and
thrive from a heart-centeredplace, because the heart, it's
where the best things happen.
If you've ever wondered how tounlock your biggest
(00:51):
breakthroughs or how to comeback from that stuff that tried
to kill you, you know the stuffI'm talking about, the stuff
that's supposed to make youstronger.
Or if you've ever wondered howto just do you straight from the
heart, you're in the rightplace.
So join me, won't you?
Let's turn on that heart light.
Hello, hello, hello, hello.
(01:21):
I have my business mentor here,looking so stunningly beautiful
, as usual, thank you, thank you.
Natalie (01:31):
Thank you, Jenee, I did my hair for you.
Jenee (01:33):
I got a little dressed up .
I might have dressed to impressa little bit.
Oh my God, I washed my hair.
You put lipstick on.
Natalie (01:43):
You put lipstick on.
Jenee (01:44):
You put lipstick on you put lipstick on a pig and you
know that's kind of how I rollthese days.
I got out of my sweats awesome.
Natalie (01:54):
Well, thank you so much for having me here.
I'm yeah, I mean we met on theworld wide web on the internet
so crazy how long?
Jenee (02:05):
ago was that I feel like we were swimming in each other's
orbits for like was it a year ayear, but I found you
originally because I was so like.
Natalie (02:17):
I remember I was looking up like sound healing,
with just like spiritual soundhealing but like voice lessons,
and I remember I stumbled uponone of your documents and I was
like, oh my God, I love thisgirl, like I loved your energy,
and I mean, as we've gotten tokind of know each other, there's
(02:38):
been a lot of parallels in ourlife and our work and crazy
parallels.
Working together has been justso, so beautiful.
Jenee (02:49):
So I'm just so magical.
Natalie (02:51):
I feel like I'm just so grateful that I A I found you B
just the relationship thatwe're building and what we will
be doing in the future together.
Jenee (03:03):
Yes, so Natalie is an energy alchemy and sacred
business mentor.
Yeah, that has decades ofexperience in the holistic
wellness field.
Is the business coach, businessmentor that feels to you like
(03:30):
kind of a natural, easyprogression, I think.
Natalie (03:33):
Well, I initially really resisted it.
I was like, oh my God, becauseI have a business background I
used to work in corporate andsales and marketing for the big
beauty giant L'Oreal and I leftthat world really traumatized,
really burnt out, reallyoverwhelmed, and I was always
(03:56):
just really obsessed withholistic health and well-being,
which which so on that journeyinto becoming, uh, which was
like a literally 13 year journeyof doing a million things
holistic, which will kind ofunravel when, like business
mentoring, came back into myvantage point, I was like, oh no
(04:20):
, no, no, I don't, I don't workwith women like you, who are,
(04:50):
like myself, the deep depthseeking women who have walked
many, many, many paths of painand through the fire, and I mean
that's, that's why we know eachother.
Jenee (05:07):
Exactly.
Oh my gosh, it's yeah the.
I just have to laugh at likethe parallels, even like the.
Um, okay, so I'm Sag Sag moonand Sag rising.
Natalie (05:19):
Yeah, and I'm a Libra moon sage rising yeah, and I'm a
libra moon sage rising sage sun.
So we're like literally likelike this click, we like click
in um, and we both have thesevery like spunky, fun, fiery
(05:40):
personalities, but we're bothdeeply sensitive and just
fucking intense, intense, all inlike the most beautiful ways,
right.
Jenee (05:51):
Mm-hmm.
Natalie (05:52):
And yeah, and through our journey of getting to know
each other, I just your work andI'm going to highlight your
work is just so profound and soincredible.
It's helped me transition evenbetter into what I meant to do
right and I think that we bothdo that in different
(06:14):
trajectories and people's pathsand journeys, but yeah, I've
adored getting to know you andI'm excited to continue that
(06:36):
journey of friendship andexpansion with you.
Jenee (06:40):
roadblocks for women that they face right now, especially
if they're trying to get out ofworking, maybe corporate, and
they really feel like they havethis deep call and calling for,
like I think a lot of people aregetting called forth now as the
as the planetary energieschange and you know, I mean
(07:04):
there's so many things but I can, can I can look back on my own
journey and what I've had toreally shift and change and it's
it's really to get out of thethat like survival, scarcity and
um, scare, yeah, survival andscarcity.
Natalie (07:23):
We and I I can.
I remember coming out ofcorporate um just being so burnt
out because I was traveling,and it's just an intense bro.
(07:44):
It's like a very patriarchalsystem where you know your
hormones.
There's no place for like, yeah, um, there's no place for the
female like no my hormones werejust really screwed up.
Yeah, yeah yeah it's.
Jenee (07:58):
You know it's very interesting to me, like, as I do
this, deconditioning myself andyou know I'm getting into my
nervous system and learningabout my feminine and kind of
learning how to love myself,like learning how to, you know,
get that system like out of mybody and just realizing like how
(08:23):
I and I think a lot of womenrealize how they don't know
anything about their ownfeminine systems their own their
own natural cycles.
They're, you know, everything iscontrolled and and boxed up and
, you know, pushed down, andit's just.
(08:44):
We can't live that way.
We're seeing the same thinghappen with the planet, you know
, yeah.
Natalie (08:51):
And I think that there's.
There's such an internal pulland an internal calling within.
It's the, that divine I alwayscall it like the just, that
heart centeredness, that divineclicking in, like we're being so
called back into our internalcompass to navigate this reality
(09:14):
from such a different paradigm,such and and I think that's, I
think that is the biggest jobwhen I say, like, getting out of
survival and getting out ofscarcity.
But it's more than that.
It's not that I just don't wantto run a business, I just don't
want to do this because of this, because that's the way it's
(09:35):
been done, but like, how do youget to the real depth of who you
are, which requires, likerooting down, really rooting
down, and finding that spacewithin you?
How do I operate and run mybusiness and market myself from
my own core vibration?
(09:57):
And that is going to be sodifferent than anybody, right,
and we all have differentrhythms and especially women
being squeezed into those.
I mean, I squeezed myself intoso many boxes and I'll I'll even
take it from like moving fromcorporate and then starting my
own holistic nutrition business.
Jenee (10:19):
That was the first thing that I did.
Natalie (10:20):
I was a personal trainer in holistic nutrition
and my my focus was women withdigestions and hormonal issues.
And even moving from corporate,I came from this space of like.
I've got to hustle and forcethis business.
So you take that, that template, and you push it into this
(10:43):
business.
But what you soon come torealize that even in some of the
coaching spaces it's the samething.
Jenee (10:54):
It's the same template.
Natalie (10:56):
It's the same template of here's my system of success.
Use it and you're going to havesuccess.
And that I mean I've investedin a million business coaching
things and I've like I'm talkinglike tens of thousands of
dollars went into major debt andfailed fucking miserably at
(11:20):
them because I was doing theirthing Right.
Jenee (11:23):
Mm-hmm, yep, yeah, and what it takes to really get to
know yourself, you know, and tounderstand your own signature.
And I think, the big thing forme and where I really want to be
focusing my energy for womenand you really helped me with
(11:45):
this and it was right in frontof me and I just didn't see it
was really helping with thewitch wound because I think, you
know, or the priestess wound,or whatever you want to call it,
you know because I think, ontop of you know, all the demands
of the world and yeah, and allthe demands on women.
(12:05):
It's, it's not you know, it's,it's more intense now.
It's not like things got betterbecause women, you know,
because of feminism, and thenwomen were able to, you know,
it's actually, I feel like it'sadded more and more, you know,
onto a woman's plate.
It's like, okay, yeah, you'regoing to work and you're going
to raise your child, as you know, full time, yes, you know, and
(12:50):
where do you find the time?
And then, on top of that,there's if you're, you know, if
you've decided you're, you'regonna, you know, do something in
the world that's forward-facing.
A lot of women, especiallyhealers, have that intense, deep
wound wound, yeah, and thatwound.
Natalie (13:06):
That's why I think any type of templated business
programming that says do this,this was my success.
It is completely missing themark that if you're not working
with somebody who has is traumainformed, who has an
(13:27):
understanding that for you toactually truly become who you're
meant to be, in that like fullexpression, I mean you're
working with like lifetimes,yeah, lifetimes of trauma and
staying small and hiding, andthat shows up in all the many
(13:50):
layers of your business, Like itshows up, how you show up
online, how like puttingtogether that um the group
program, or what is your coreoffering as like, what is your
medicine?
Like sharing your medicine usedto get you burned at the stake.
(14:10):
Of course you're going to hideOf course I hid for so many
years.
Yeah, me too, so many years, andthat is I mean.
(14:40):
But here's the beautiful thingthat I think is really we're in
this pressure cooker right nowwas having this conversation
about really leaning in the oldway of whether it was healing,
whether it was running yourbusiness.
It's all multi-layered in thisway that it's like I got to
really I've got to fix this so Ican perform and I can project
(15:09):
this.
this certain image of who Ithink I want people to be, and
that projection is is often feltincongruently by people now
especially now, and that's why,they're that, that really
rooting down and finding allthose nitty gritty, icky parts
(15:32):
of yourself, like the.
the witch wound is in there,like deep shadow work, Like if,
if we can go in and love allthese parts of ourselves and
really just be with them, thatcomes out as part of the
expression of your medicine.
It's like the wholeness that weare starting to embody.
(15:57):
I think we're just starting tosee such a different leadership
style from women now.
Jenee (16:01):
Yeah, and one of the things I've always said is that
the body is the, it's the bridge, it's the gateway to heaven on
earth, and so that's been thepath for me, and I'm sure it's
been the path for you and andthe and the women that I want to
learn from and the women that Itrust are going into their
(16:25):
bodies and they're moving fromtheir bodies, because that is
where the true intelligencecomes from.
But to do that, you know, toget embodied with all of the
messages and with the witchwound and with the ancestral
wounds, and there's a lot ofshit in there.
Natalie (16:45):
There's a lot of stuff.
There's so much stuff in ourbody that, like, you spend so
much of your life neck up, neckup, neck up is like.
It can feel like a treacherouspath at first because it's like,
(17:06):
oh, I've been so programmed tolive outside of this body.
But, like, when you get in andyou start to settle because it
takes a lot of nervous systemwork to it takes a lot of
nervous system work, a lot ofnervous system work to really
get to the next layer and okay,I'm safe here.
And then you're like, you'regetting a deeper breath and
(17:28):
you're going through all theselayers of deep intensity and
deep traumas, that, that goldthat you get on the other side
of that, it's alchemy when youget into the pain right and
moving through and allowyourself to to truly feel it, to
(17:52):
go to the depths.
And I'm not talking about like,just like, feel your feelings,
but be in those feelings for awhile, because your body hasn't
felt them for so long.
Jenee (18:03):
Yeah, like did you yeah go ahead.
Natalie (18:06):
No, I was going to ask you when you first started
healing, I remember for twoyears, I was literally
completely wiped out.
For two years, two years of mylife, I was completely exhausted
because my body was finallyallowing me to enter, enter,
enter, and that can feel likeyou're going backwards, for sure
(18:30):
?
Jenee (18:31):
Yeah, pardon me.
I started my healing journeyprobably 20 years ago, but I was
still very like in thespiritual.
It was a lot of like spiritualrealm stuff, and so I was in
these upper chakras for a verylong time.
Natalie (18:49):
Yeah.
Jenee (18:50):
We've talked a lot about that, you know, and it wasn't, I
think, until I really startedto do this work with other other
women and I had my firstiteration of my business and
just really couldn't get it offthe ground and I was like I
(19:10):
don't believe what I'm teachingand I am afraid to go somewhere.
You know, and and now that Ifacilitate psychedelics and
Philip and I always talk abouthow you, when you sit in a
container with with afacilitator, you can only go as
(19:30):
deep as your facilitator is gone.
You know, and that's exactlythe same for someone who's, you
know, helping you walk through aprogram, helping you launch
your business.
You know, it's like, yeah, it'sthat kind of multifaceted
(19:54):
aspect of you.
Natalie (19:54):
Know someone who's kind of gone through the alchemical
fire.
Yeah, and it's funny becauseI've somebody asked me the other
day, um, because, uh, becauseI'm single, and they're like,
what, what are you looking forin a man?
And I look for this in teachersand mentors.
I'm like, please tell me thatyou've walked through some type
of fire and you have come out onthe other side, because I have
(20:17):
been to the depths of hellmyself.
And if I can't share that depthwith you and you doesn't mean
that you have to have to havegone on the same path um, but if
there's, if there is nounderstanding or relatability of
where I've been, it's, it'skind of lost.
(20:39):
Yeah, right, and that is um,it's deep work.
Jenee (20:44):
It is deep work and there's a deep sense of trust
when you're with someone who'swho's gone through that, you
know.
I think it creates like anunspoken language and I was
wondering what one of yourfavorite shadow working
exercises is or if you could runus through something.
Natalie (21:06):
Swamping for sure.
Swamping.
So, um, and this isn't mine, Ijust I remember reading about it
from Mama Gina and I didn't, Ididn't take her course, but I, I
just read it and I was like ohwow, and it kind of circulated
through my intellect for for alittle while.
And then I remember um goingthrough a really, really dark
(21:34):
period and I, I was goingthrough deep scarcity.
Um, and I remember I was, I waspart of what I do is I do a lot
of mirror work too and Iremember sitting in front of the
mirror and I could feelsomething shadow coming in, like
(21:57):
my deepest fears, like what,what is coming up, and one of my
deepest fears was, you know,scarcity.
I'm not going to have enoughmoney to do this.
Whatever, whatever the story is, and I can, I can feel it and
I'm in, I'm really in resistanceto that.
I can feel my body clampingCause it's like you can't go
there because you can feelscarcity.
It's a it's start, you start todo this work.
Jenee (22:19):
It becomes.
Natalie (22:21):
It becomes this very visceral in my body, where I was
like, oh fuck, no, I need to gohere.
I need to go and look right atthe shadow, so swamping for me,
um and I don't even know if thisis how Mama Gina does, but this
is what I came up with, whatI've been doing, what I've been
teaching clients.
(22:41):
I allowed that energy and thatshadow to fully embody me and I
started swamping around as whatI in my mind's eye or in my body
, and the biggest fear is likeyou're going to be fucking
homeless.
You're going to I don't know,have to prostitute yourself Like
(23:02):
you die in the streets, likedie on the streets and like you
go to the place that you areabsolutely buck, fucking wild,
afraid of.
Jenee (23:12):
Sorry, I swear, no, I love, I love swearing on a
little bit of a potty mouththing, I have a bit of a potty
mouth.
Natalie (23:19):
My favorite thing I have a bit of a potty mouth.
So, in the mirror, I reallyallowed myself, I allowed that
really dark place of my shadowto really come and embody it and
really let her play out throughme.
And then, right after that, Imean, if anybody saw me do this,
(23:44):
they'd just be like this girl'slike that shit crazy.
And I'm like, yeah, so after,after allowing this swamping, or
this, this deep dark shadowenergy, this one of your deepest
fears, to actually like flowthrough me, I was like, oh man,
that that wasn't that bad.
And like the amount.
So I want you to think of, like, how much your body holds, like
(24:07):
it's like this bracing, you'reresisting, resisting, resisting.
And when you let that shadowcome through your body and you
embody it, like with love, withlove it comes through and you're
just like taken over and youact it out as the expression, as
your body is art, and you'reletting it move through you, and
(24:29):
then the the spaciousness andexpansion that you have
thereafter is like it's dreamy.
It's like all the shit on theother side of that fear of
scarcity is like it's dreamy.
It's like it is dream.
All the shit on the other sideof that fear of scarcity is like
, oh okay, I went there.
Was it that bad?
No, no, it wasn't that bad.
(24:50):
It wasn't that bad, I'm sure,in real life.
But like that resistance andthat bracing and that's part of
that survival that lives in ourbody.
And when you get into it andyou act it out and you let that
um move through you, it's thespaciousness that I had for the
(25:11):
entire six months after thatfrom just letting that shadow
move through me was likeabsolutely incredible yeah, it's
so interesting and it's wild.
Jenee (25:21):
It's wild that we're so terrified, you know, we're like
so terrified to feel thosethings and the ego is just like
puts that, you know that clampon it like no, and then when you
go through it I had anexperience experience with with
bufo we went and sat with um,our teacher, down in mexico and,
um, it was a crazy day.
(25:45):
It was like I I started gettingvery nervous and I was like I'm
not gonna go.
And I remember the day before Ihad pulled from the shamanic
deck, I had pulled the butterflycard.
Natalie (25:57):
You're like you know, it's like transformation yeah.
Jenee (26:00):
So then we get to the beach and like it's like a
million butterflies, like justthousands of butterflies going
at each way, and Alfonso waslike, oh, this is a great day,
this is very auspicious, likewhere we have the two winds of
the seasons changing and thebutterflies are, you know, here
(26:21):
and as they're, they're movingthrough their migration, and so
the days get going on.
We're on the beach, it'sgetting hotter and hotter and
everybody's going and I'm likegetting more nervous.
I'm like I'm I'm not gonna go.
Oh, my god, you know I'm gonnago shit my pants first your
body's like bracing, emptybracing, yeah, yeah and it's
like every time I I step up tothe plate with that medicine,
(26:43):
I'm terrified, and most peopleare, and that's very normal and
healthy.
But yeah, it was interestingbecause, um, what came through
was like a holding, because whatthat medicine does is really
it's first and foremost a bodymedicine and it, it, it rings a
combo I know it was.
(27:04):
It's bufo.
Oh, like everybody thinks thatbufo is like.
Yes, it does have god, I, Idon't, yeah, I don't know enough
about it, but yeah, but I meanthe, the kind of um most people
the idea of it is is of this,like crown chakra, and then
you're out of your body, youknow which that happens, but
(27:26):
it's very much a body medicine,like I think, first and foremost
, and it rings you out and soGod comes in, or source comes
into your body, and I felt it.
Source comes into your body andI felt it and it was like it was
coming in and pushing out allof the terror that I've ever had
(27:46):
of my whole life, of like beinga woman giving birth, like all
of these, these holdings that Ihad in my, in my body.
It was just this like completeterror of like life.
It was just being afraid ofliving and being afraid of life,
and that's wild, yeah.
(28:08):
And not having a child, becausepart of the reason why I didn't
have the have a child wasbecause of a long line of like
abuse and and also I didn'tthink I would be a good parent
and I was also like terrified ofthe whole process and so I'm
like I've got my legs up and I'mjust ripping, like screaming.
(28:32):
It was the scream of like acentury.
This was a scream of likelifetimes and at that same
moment, like a guttural whale,realize that's a spiritual path
(28:58):
to hold, like that to tocontract or to um shut down or
to be kind of taken by anaddiction or something you know,
like that is a really hard butdeep spiritual path and that
like changed my whole mind aboutsuffering and addiction and I
(29:21):
just have so much morecompassion for everyone that I
see, yeah, cause we're holdingthat in our bodies.
Natalie (29:29):
Yeah, and sometimes our bodies just won't allow us to
go into it.
So, yeah, for whatever reason,the coping mechanism is to
survive and move on and drink,yeah, or do whatever.
Do whatever.
Wow, that's really profound.
(29:51):
I've I have yet to do bufo andI have a very funny feeling.
Jenee (29:54):
My first bufo experience will be with you I know I keep
trying to get you to go down.
Natalie (30:00):
It'll happen.
It's going to happen.
I'll be down soon.
I'll be down soon.
Jenee (30:03):
Yep, talk a little bit about mirror work too.
I'd love to.
I'd love to learn a little bitabout your process.
Do you have like a?
Do you have several things thatyou do?
Natalie (30:16):
So it's interesting, I, I integrate mirror work when I
think, when people are, whenwomen are really, um, it's
through that, like getting intothe body, when, when they're
very in their head, I findmirror work really profound
because when I first startedwhen I'll give you an example of
when I first started doingmirror work um, I'll give you an
(30:49):
example of when I first starteddoing mirror work you can
really pick up on the subtlenuances of what's actually
happening if you just keepstaring for long enough.
There is so much that getsrevealed to you through the
mirror, just looking into youreyes, and so mirror work for me.
I use it as a way to connectwith the body.
It's like how do you relate toyour body?
Do you love your body?
A lot of women don't have thatconnection to their body.
(31:11):
So witnessing themselves in themirror just caressing their
shoulder or twirling their hairor just touching their face,
just just being with themselves,I always feel like it's the
masculine in you.
Witnessing the feminineexpression in the mirror, it's
like you're you're seeing allthese really beautiful parts of
(31:33):
yourself and sometimes uglyparts, right, but it's through
the lens of compassion where youget to really um.
You really get into many, manylayers of the self.
You can even start to see um.
Your ancestors show up in themirror.
You start to see um past lives.
(31:53):
It is like if you do it, if youpractice it long enough, it
like I've.
I feel like I've hadpsychedelic trips and for sure
where.
I mean I'm very visual in myintuition, like I'm very
sensitive to energy, so I amvery attuned to a lot of nuance.
So when I'm doing mirror workit is, I think, taking people
(32:19):
through it.
It's very uncomfortable atfirst Because we often have so
much criticism about ourselves,Such lifetimes and lifetimes of
trauma, but then the world andhow we're supposed to look and
if you it's just a lot of ourworth is really wrapped up in
(32:42):
how we look.
And this, this is something thatI I've had to really unpack.
I mean, I heard it from from mymother a lot growing up, like,
oh well, you're good looking andand I'm like, oh, does that,
does that mean that I should getthe job?
Does that mean it's like it'ssuch deep programming, right?
So when you sit in front of themirror, whether you have makeup
(33:06):
on or not, you start to learnhow to soften and have such deep
compassion for all thesedifferent expressions of
yourself.
It's really wild.
Have you done mirror?
Jenee (33:20):
work.
Oh yeah, I've done a lot ofmirror work on psychedelics.
Natalie (33:25):
Oh man, I have not done that.
Like I feel like mirror workalone is like okay tell me about
that.
Jenee (33:32):
Oh man, tripping balls on like ayahuasca or mushrooms and
going and hanging out withyourself in front of the mirror
can be like traumatizing wild.
I mean just wild, like, yeah, I.
So I like to kind of look pastmyself like a little bit and
(33:53):
I'll look like just right pastmy head or you know, yeah, into
the mirror and, um, sometimes itcan be like terrifying,
terrifyingly overwhelming, yeah.
So I just I make sure andbreathe, really breathe into it
and get curious about like who,who's there, what's this showing
(34:14):
me?
And I've seen versions ofmyself that are a lot of like
Aboriginal or, you know, native,like old, old ancestry Guides.
I've seen my yeah, guides.
(34:34):
I've seen myself as an alien,like a Liran, like Starseed or
Liren, you know they're the cat,cat beings or whatever, oh man,
just like so many and andtribal markings.
And you know, I've seen myselfas an old woman and that's
(34:58):
always like a trip, you know,it's like whoa, okay, yeah, you
know.
And to kind of sit with thatand be like, okay, there she is,
yeah, she's, she's dope,instead of being like, oh my God
, there she is and like saggingjowls and holy shit, she looks
creepy.
(35:19):
And just being like, being likeI've I've kind of met.
I've been doing a lot of workrecently where I've been meeting
my, my future, my future wiseself, you know, yeah, and it's
really, it's like you see theeyes and that's the same thing
with mirror work, it's the eyesnever change.
Natalie (35:44):
No, I know it's so.
In in my mirror work I do a lotof like, like directly into the
eyes, and then it's likeeverything softens.
So it's that steady focus inthe eyes that allows the, this
transformation of the face too.
So it's, it's probably the samething.
It's like focusing over here orfocusing I I tend to focus on
(36:08):
the, on my.
My mentor in Chicago gave methat, that practice about 10
years ago and that was I waslike, was like oh man, this is
deep shit, like there's so muchthat you can see in the mirror.
And it's not, it's like it.
(36:28):
It's not like a 3d physicalreflection.
This is like layers and layersof your multi-dimensional self
being exposed and you got to beready for that because it's like
really deep and reallybeautiful, so that, yeah, that
is that's one of the one of the.
(36:48):
I feel like there's so manythings like and it just it's,
it's so unique because I feellike the women that are coming
to me now are like you you'vedone a lot of that deep body
work you've done, and now it'slike how do I, how do I take all
of this?
Knowing, because here's alsowhat I've noticed in the healing
(37:09):
industry is like you can justkeep healing maybe just stay
healing and you can just getmore information and you can
just keep going, keep healing,and I call it the um, the wound.
You pick off the scab and youjust keep picking at it.
Right, I know you can do thatand I used to do that.
And then I'm like you know whatI've got.
(37:31):
I've got it.
What am I going to do with thisnow?
What am I going to do with this, all this information that I
got?
Um, so I tend to be getting alot of women who have done that
deep, heavy in their body,nervous system work.
I mean, I used to teach this inmy healing practice.
(37:53):
But now I'm getting the womenwho are like I'm ready to
fucking take action, I'm readyto move with all the baggage
that I uncovered, all of theintensity, and this is like
having so much compassion andlove for all the parts of you,
(38:14):
all the parts of you, and you'relike we're going to bring all
of you into the medicine now youand you're like we're going to
bring all of you into themedicine now.
Jenee (38:22):
Yeah, I know, I think you've said I mean I think I've
talked to you like several timesabout I need to do something
else, or I need more, moretraining, and you're like you do
not need more training?
No, and that's it's uncoveringwhat is there, and that's what
you know I'm in the process ofdoing with you.
Natalie (38:38):
Yeah, and I think that I mean I did that.
I went on like, oh, I don'thave enough knowledge, and I
always think that everythingthat you are, so and it's like
you already know that, when youlike, when I studied holistic
nutrition, it was very easy forme because I'm like I know this
(39:02):
from a past life.
Jenee (39:03):
When I studied energetics .
Natalie (39:05):
I was already doing it, but it's just giving me
contextualization for the skillsthat I already had.
With most healers we have likesuch an abundance of skill set
already innately within us, andthen we look out here to get the
(39:26):
program to confirm somethingthat we already have inside of
us.
When, like your work, janae,like when you are doing your
sound healing with me, you don'tlearn that shit in a book.
Jenee (39:44):
You can't learn that?
Natalie (39:45):
stuff you can't learn.
That that is God and the divinesaying get out of the way I'm
coming through.
And it's your unique energy andskill set that can hold.
You can be that conduit right.
And when you have done thedepth of work that you have done
(40:06):
, you then open yourself up tobeing that conduit and the
divine is like let me take over.
And that's what makes yoursession so powerful, because you
get out of the way Exactly.
And that, I think, is that issuch a like you do you so
(40:29):
beautifully that no modality isgoing to ever like confirm what
you do.
Jenee (40:40):
Do you know what I mean?
Yeah, and that's the thing,like so many people and that's,
you know that's fine, but youknow it's like get the, you know
somatic, experiencing, you knowcertificate, if, if you need
the language, like you had saidto me, you know.
But like, really, it is so muchabout uncovering.
You know it's not about addingit's, it's actually about
uncovering and that's like forme, this last year, that's what
(41:04):
it's been about.
You know.
It's like and those codes areliving in your field, like you
know those gifts, yeah, and yourDNA and those gifts are coming,
especially now.
Now, as we're moving through,you know, this planetary
ascension, and more, more of thelight codes are streaming in.
It's like people's gifts arejust going to pop off.
Natalie (41:29):
They be popping.
Yeah, they be popping.
They be popping right now, youknow, but it's really.
Jenee (41:35):
Yeah, it is it's a matter of like actually trusting
yourself and not looking aroundand being like, oh my god, a lot
of person in this person dothat.
It doesn't.
I don't see myself, and that'sthe thing I was like.
I don't see myself in any ofthese people and it's like no
shit, sherlock, yeah and it isalso know we're dissolving the
(42:00):
illusion that we are separatefrom God.
Exactly and from each other.
Natalie (42:05):
And from each other.
But I think you hit the nail onhead.
I got to trust myself, but youalso have to put faith and trust
in something far bigger thanyou, which is always it's hard
for people, something far biggerthan you, which is it's hard
always people, that that is, uh,that's a really big one.
That's, I think, what I wentthrough, and probably my deepest
(42:26):
learning in the last four yearswas like oh, because your ego
gets involved in healing your,your ego really wants to drive
the ship, and that was me for solong.
I'm like oh well, I'm thishealer and this is my identity,
and that was part of like Ican't go into business coaching
(42:47):
or business mentorship, like I'ma healer.
Jenee (42:49):
Yeah, even though you were being called forward in a
different way.
Natalie (42:54):
Nah, you're going to go in this direction, right, and
that's that you know.
When we go into the depths ofthe body and we really start to
anchor into ourselves, weunderstand that there is
something far bigger that'sholding us, that's guiding us,
that is trying so desperately tocome through us.
(43:19):
And I mean you.
I experience that, that divinenature, in your sessions and
like if, and you can feel itwhen you go to somebody who has
read a book and they're givingyou the template versus somebody
who's really fucking embodiedin their work, who is walking
that path.
(43:40):
So I think we're at a reallycool time right now where you
know, whether you call it Christconsciousness coming through
each and every one of us,whether you want to call it.
Just like this major ascensiontrip where there's massive
amounts of light codes pouringin from these solar flares.
(44:01):
We are ascending at such a fastspeed that there's so much
density getting kicked out ofour energy field where it's like
the divine's like no, no, no,I'm with you, I'm here to carry
you too.
Jenee (44:15):
And it's the same thing like with Bufo no, I'm with you,
I'm here to carry you too, andit's the same thing, like with
Bufo, like it's the exact, likesame metaphor.
I mean, it's what's happeningis so, just as Bufo pushes all
that stuff out of your body andit's like this scream that's
what's happening on the planet.
Natalie (44:32):
So everybody thinks that, like we're devolving you
know we're getting worse and I'mlike, no, this is, it's like I
want you to think of, like howtrauma goes into the body,
trauma in, trauma out.
Yeah, you got, you have toexperience the like, the
collective shadow and all thedensity on the planet.
I'm like let it, let it come uplike, let it rise and let it be
(44:57):
seen and cleansed and purifiedand it, yeah, and the best thing
we can do I think, as like allof this is, you know, happening,
it's like, yes, help where youcan if you feel like there's
some sort of physical thing youcan do.
Jenee (45:13):
You know um giving money or or donating food or whatever.
But I mean, I've had so manypeople laugh at me but like,
honestly, the I think the bestthing you can do is is hold and
witness, and hold a loving spacefor what's coming up, and pray
and you know, and and some ofthis stuff is just like you
(45:35):
can't like what's happening inthe middle east.
It's you can't even wrap yourhead around how, how horrifying
it is, you know, but it's like,well, what can I do from here?
You know, what can I do in mycommunity?
What can I do?
Just like when I see people inmy freaking apartment complex?
Natalie (45:55):
you know, it's like I can hold that space, you know,
in space go ahead I was gonnasay, space holding is one of
those things that is sounderrated, so underrated and it
doesn't doesn't require a crazyamount of skill set, like
holding space and just lettingsomeone be where they need to be
(46:18):
, whether that's like somebodythrown a fricking anger, temper,
tantrum or crying or whateverit is.
Whatever it is, let them be init.
Jenee (46:31):
Yeah, I think it's actually the hardest thing to do
.
Natalie (46:35):
Super hard.
Well, especially if it's family, especially if it's family or
people that you know, I thinkit's, it's, I think that they
should teach that in schools.
Like, how do you hold space?
How do you, how do you holdspace for somebody's like big
emotions, or just moving throughsomething, or just without
(46:57):
interjecting and informing, oryou know?
Jenee (47:02):
Or offering a solution, or yeah, you know.
Natalie (47:05):
It's like finding this Nobody wants to hear a solution
when they're in their shit.
Right, yeah, that going back tolike what can we do?
Tend to your inner world.
Yep, like I heard this quotethe other day, I forget from who
.
I was listening to a podcastwhile I was cleaning and it's
like how do you expect to havepeace on earth and end wars out
(47:31):
here when you are at war withyourself?
Yourself when you are when youhave no peace within yourself,
how can you, how can you fixthat outside of yourself?
Jenee (47:43):
Yeah, you can't.
It starts with each of us firstand that's the greatest work
that you can do.
Natalie (47:50):
Yeah, you know, that's the greatest work that you can
do work that you can do, becauseit it's a, it's an energetic
rippling, because it it lands.
Jenee (48:03):
It just it goes so far when you are working on yourself
yeah, as above, so below, as in, as out you know, amen, amen
yeah I can't believe we'realmost up to an hour.
Oh, my goodness, we are.
That was so good.
Can you um give the, thelisteners, a little bit of like
(48:30):
a taste of of what you'reoffering now, maybe talk?
Natalie (48:34):
about?
Yeah, so it's mixing businessand energetics.
So where do I want to start?
If you want to start, I have aa free download that you could
join.
It's called the sacred businessblueprint and it's just a
really beautiful journey.
(48:55):
You were talking earlier about,you know, communing with your
higher self and seeing her, andit's a really beautiful
transmission where you get to goon a journey it's a mini course
and you meet your higher, wiserbusiness self and you get to
receive all these beautifulenergetic codes and frequencies
(49:15):
and then there's littlepractices to come out of that,
to integrate and how you canstart taking little actionable
steps in your business.
So that would I would startthere.
Um, I have a really excitingprogram coming up called the
devotion code.
I just ran the beta program withum, about six of my
(49:37):
long-standing lovely clients,and it's going to be launching
mid-may and it is the, the realjourney of learning to trust
with the divine.
It's been probably my deepestwork in the last five years and
it is really learning to open tothe, the trust of the divine.
(50:01):
How does the divine speakthrough you?
How to it's?
Basically, how do I reallyanchor into my intuition?
And when we can lead from thatinner compass, it's like, okay,
now I'm in partnership with this, like like co-creating with
something that's bigger than me,and it's, it's a okay, now I'm
in partnership with this, likelike co-creating with something
that's bigger than me, and it'sit's a really beautiful process.
(50:22):
So that's going to be comingout in May and then I offer, you
know, one-on-one work and somementorship.
That is about igniting yourmagnetism so that you can stand
in the truth and the realexpression of who you are.
Jenee (50:39):
Yeah, it's been life-changing working with you.
I've done many business coursesand this has been by far the
most profound work that I've hadthe opportunity to do with you.
Natalie (50:54):
So I highly recommend working with Natalie, and when
we get your offers up andrunning, watch out, you got to
get in with watch out world,jenna is coming, her, her,
you're, you're so talented andso thank you.
Jenee (51:12):
Multi, passionate, multifaceted multi passionate
about too many things.
Natalie (51:20):
But, but we're're, that's the thing.
You are so expansive and sovast, we got to bring that out
into the world because we can'tdilute any parts of you.
Right?
You're so powerful in what youdo and the world needs that you
have that gift.
Jenee (51:34):
I've been so grateful that, just to be witnessed, and
that gift that you have of beinglike nope and we're bringing
this in too and this is afoundational piece, you know
that I've like I'm going tocompartmentalize that part of
myself.
Natalie (51:51):
I'm like no, no, no, we're bringing all of you into
your business You're you're toopowerful to dilute and pick and
choose.
You're just like boom, all ofyou.
Jenee (52:02):
Oh, I have to have you back on.
This was so fun.
Natalie (52:04):
Sure Anytime.
I feel like we like justscratched the surface.
I know we I mean we've had somepretty deep conversations that
go in many, many differentdirections.
I feel like I could talk to youforever, but thank you so much
for having me on.
I love you so much and it'sjust such an honor to walk
through the fire with you.
Jenee (52:25):
Thank you so much and I'll put the blueprint up, um in
my description.
I'll have that share so peoplecan download it and they can
find information about yourprograms and your one to one
Awesome Thank you.
Thank you, have a great day.
You, too, find informationabout your programs and your
one-to-one Awesome, thank you.
Natalie (52:40):
Thank you.
Have a great day you too.
Jenee (52:48):
The Heart Light Sessions podcast is executive produced
and hosted by me, Jenee Halstead.
It's edited, mixed and masteredby me too.
And that theme song you hear?
It's called Heart Light.
And yep, you guessed it, it'sfrom my record and mastered by
me too.
And that theme song you hear?
It's called Heart Light.
And yep, you guessed it, it'sfrom my record Disposable Love.
Got questions about a certainhealing modality or about
heart-centered healing, or maybeyou just need some advice on
life, love or creativity?
(53:08):
Send it my way, email me atletters at
heartlightpodcastdotcom.
Until next time, I'm JeneeHalstead, and thanks for
listening to Heart LightSessions.
Popular Podcasts
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!
The Breakfast Club
The World's Most Dangerous Morning Show, The Breakfast Club, With DJ Envy And Charlamagne Tha God!
The Joe Rogan Experience
The official podcast of comedian Joe Rogan.