April 21, 2025 • 29 mins
Change is the only constant in our lives, yet we instinctively resist it. Whether facing health challenges, career shifts, or global disruptions, change often throws us off balance—but what if we could transform this resistance into resilience?
This deeply personal exploration unpacks how our nervous systems and brains are simultaneously hardwired for patterns while possessing remarkable adaptability through neuroplasticity. Drawing on insights from resilience expert Brad Stulberg, neuroscientist Norman Doidge, and mindfulness pioneer Daniel Siegel, we discover how "rugged flexibility" allows us to stay rooted in core values while adapting to changing circumstances.
Using movement as both metaphor and practice, we explore how physical training teaches us valuable lessons about adaptation—the delicate balance of stress and recovery that builds strength, the importance of mindful awareness, and the power of community support in navigating change.
This episode reveals how disorder isn't something to fear but rather the necessary catalyst for growth and evolution. By accepting where we are, staying present through discomfort, practicing patience, and leaning on our communities, we can navigate change with grace and emerge stronger on the other side—perhaps not returning to our old selves but becoming more resilient, compassionate, and connected versions of ourselves.
Some resources used in the creation of this podcast:
Brad Stulberg, Masters of Change: How To Excel When Everything is Changing, Including You, New York, NY, HarperOne.
Brad Stulberg, The Practice of Groundedness; A Transformative Path to Success That Feeds - Not Crushes - Your Soul, 2021, New York, NY, Penguin Random House
Daniel J. Siegel, M.D., The Mindful Therapist: A Clinician's Guide to Mindsight and Neural Integration, 2010, New York, NY, W.W. Norton & Company, Inc.
Daniel J. Siegel, M.D., Mindsight: The New Science of Personal Transformation, 2011, New York, NY, Bantam Books
Norman Doidge, M.D., The Brain That Changes Itself: Stories of Personal Triumph from the Frontiers of Brain Science, 2007, New York, NY, Penguin Books Ltd.
Hans Selye, M.D, Ph.D, D.Sc, F.R.S.C, Stress and the General Adaptation Syndrome, 1950, British Medical Journal.
Heart of Motion Podcast host Susannah Steers is a Pilates & Integrated Movement Specialist and owner of Moving Spirit Pilates in North Vancouver, BC. She is passionate about movement, about connections and about life.
Through movement teaching, speaking, and facilitating workshops, she supports people in creating movement practices that promote fitness from the inside out. She loves building community, and participating in multi-disciplinary collaborations.
Along with her friend and colleague Gillian McCormick, Susannah also co-hosts The Small Conversations for a Better World podcast – an interview based podcast dedicated to promoting the kind of conversations about health that can spark positive change in individuals, families, communities and across the globe.
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Susannah Steers (00:00):
Welcome to the Heart of Motion podcast.
I'm Susanna Steers and I'll beyour host as we explore the
heart, soul and science ofmovement as a pathway to more
active, vibrant and connectedliving.
Nothing happens until somethingmoves, so let's get started.
Way back in 500 BC, greekphilosopher Heraclitus suggested
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that the only constant in lifeis change.
I think it could be argued thatresistance to change is another
pretty universal thing.
Whether it's a career shift, ahealth challenge, aging or even
just adapting to new routines,change can throw us off balance
and we can feel uncomfortableand even vulnerable.
I've been thinking a lot aboutchange in recent years, and I
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guess I wanted to share some ofthe things that I've learned.
Our brains and our nervoussystems are hardwired to create
patterns of activity to promotespeed and efficiency in our
actions.
The more we practice thosepatterns, the more deeply
ingrained they become and thefaster we're able to act.
In certain ways, we programourselves into thinking or doing
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things on a pretty predictablepath.
It's an efficient way of doingthings, if you think about it.
When we encounter situationsoutside the familiar, though, or
when we attempt to do thingsdifferently, we're a little less
efficient at first, a littleless sure, less immediately
capable.
We might even be afraid.
What if we could approach itdifferently?
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What if we could see change notas something to fear but as an
opportunity for growth?
I've always figured that it waspart of my job as a movement
teacher to support people increating or managing changes,
particularly in their bodies.
Movement is a great way tocreate change and to begin to
see where change might bepossible, and it can be a
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powerful way to shore us up whenchange is happening for us.
People walk into a Pilatesstudio for a reason, walk into a
Pilates studio for a reason,and often the physical changes
they seek are actually a pathwayto handling other aspects of
their lives in different ways.
Today, I want to look at waysthat we might explore to move
through life's twists and turnswithout losing our footing.
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I'm going to share some of myown perspectives and we'll
explore some science-backedstrategies from researchers.
I respect particularly BradStulberg, a resilience and
performance expert, as well asneuroscientist Norman Doidge and
mindfulness pioneer DanielSiegel.
And, as always, we're going tokeep movement at the heart of
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things.
In his recent book, Master ofChange, brad Stulberg suggests
that we might view change not asan acute event but as a
constant of life, a cycle inwhich we are ongoing
participants.
In the book he introduces aconcept that I love, something
he calls rugged flexibility.
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The idea is about being tough,determined and durable while at
the same time being adaptable,able to bend easily without
breaking and to consciouslyrespond to change, resulting in
a gritty endurance that allowsus to thrive in the face of
change.
You might picture ruggedflexibility a little like a
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willow tree.
The tree's trunk is like yoursense of self and your values.
In a storm, that trunk staysrooted, but the branches bend
and sway in the wind.
This picture kind of gives usan image of constant movement as
well as a sense of stabilityand constancy.
So let me bring it back to thebody for a sec.
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Let's say you've injured yourknee.
It might be tempting just togive in to the discomfort and
say to yourself I'm injured andI can't do the things, and then
just put your feet up and watchTV instead until the injury is
healed.
That's a choice you could make,and if you're out for six to
eight weeks, you might beclimbing the walls by the time
you're cleared for full activity.
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So let's think about it anotherway.
Yes, you've had a setback.
What if you approach thesituation with rugged
flexibility instead?
In this case, it might meanchanging up your workout routine
, shifting to things that youcan accomplish without causing
problems for that injured knee.
Instead of skipping the workoutcompletely, you might choose to
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modify your exercises, reducethe load volume or shift to
other activities that you canmanage.
You might need more recoverytime or longer breaks, I don't
know.
It might even mean somethingmore complicated.
The idea is to be open and tofind something you can do to
help yourself weather the changewithout abandoning your goals
and your values completely.
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If you can embrace the changeinstead of resisting it, you'll
probably learn something newabout yourself and your body in
the process, and when you comeback to full strength, it won't
be the old you.
It will be a new, wiser you.
Regardless of the choices youmake, you'll have to bring
awareness to the potentialchallenges of your circumstances
.
Before making any knee-jerkreactions to a change, take a
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moment to assess the situation,to understand the implications
and to make a loose plan formoving forward.
Focus on what you can control.
What are the aspects of yourtraining that you can still
influence?
Be adaptable to new variableswhen they arise, and when you
can incorporate a variety ofexercises and different training
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methods, you'll probably bebetter equipped to adapt to
those unexpected changes.
If movement and conditioningare important to you, keep your
eyes on the prize.
By focusing on your core valuesand your goals, you'll likely
find your way through toughterritory without feeling
utterly defeated by theunexpected change.
So here's where things get evenmore interesting.
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I spoke earlier about how ourbrains and nervous systems
create patterns of neuralpathways to help us move quickly
and efficiently, but sciencealso shows us that our brains
are wired for adaptability.
In his book "The Brain thatChanges Itself, neuroscientist
Norman Deutsch describes aprocess by which the brain is
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able to rewire itself inresponse to new experiences.
It's called neuroplasticity.
If you've spent any time atMovies, beer, pilates, you've
probably heard the term a timeor two.
We can see neuroplasticity inaction quite dramatically in
someone who learns to read orspeak after a stroke, for
example.
What occurs is a profoundrepatterning of the brain.
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That can seem utterlymiraculous, and it kind of is
Neuroplastic.
Change happens when specificsignals are repeatedly sent
between neurons, creating newpathways from your brain to your
foot or your foot to your brain, for example.
When a previous pathway becomesunavailable, your brain, given
the right conditions, can figureout a detour.
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Deutsch stresses that learningand experience play crucial
roles in shaping both the brainand its functions.
Good quality repetition andreinforcement of desired actions
are important in developing newpathways, and it's a two-way
street the brain affects thebody and the body affects the
brain, both sending signals thatinfluence the other.
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In our Pilates studio, my teamand I often ask people to notice
what they experience isdifferent when they're exploring
postural changes or learning anew movement skill.
Awareness of the body and itsmovement is the first step
toward encouraging some of thisneuroplastic change.
Your brain needs to be awarethat something is different and
it needs to sense that thatdifferent is meaningful to you
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in some way.
Then it's important toexperience or practice the new
thing as often as possible in ashort period of time that
encourages your system to shiftits attention from an old way of
doing things to a fresh way oforganizing and traveling those
new neural pathways.
The truth is that every time weface a challenge or step
outside our comfort zone, ourbrains create new pathways.
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It's like carving a new trailthrough dense forest.
At first it feels hard andunfamiliar, but over time it
becomes easier and then almostautomatic.
So where do we start?
If we're talking about actionsteps for navigating change,
then the first strategy might beto learn to embrace discomfort
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as a part of growth.
And while the body can serve asa beacon of sorts, a truth
teller, I think we canextrapolate this strategy into
pretty much the rest of ourlives.
When we feel resistance,whether it's learning a new
skill, changing our habits orstarting a new job, reminding
ourselves that our brains arecreating new connections is
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important.
Discomfort isn't a sign thatwe're failing.
Instead, it's proof that we'reevolving.
So let's go back to BradStulberg's work for a minute.
For years, when discussionturned to topics of the body,
conversation often revolvedaround ways to help the body to
find homeostasis for best health.
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The idea behind homeostasis isthat the body will do everything
it can to find, or revert to astate of balance inside itself.
Now, in my mind, while there iscomfort in knowing that the
boat will essentially try toright itself, it seems like kind
of a reactive way of gettingthere, doesn't it?
Brad Stelberg talks aboutallostasis instead.
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In his view, healthy systemsadapt to change and find new
forms of stability instead ofrigidly resisting it, as in the
more traditional concept ofhomeostasis.
Rigidly resisting it, as in themore traditional concept of
homeostasis.
Stulberg emphasizes that thisis called stability through
change.
In essence, allostasis is aboutembracing change as a natural
part of life and finding a newequilibrium after a period of
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change.
It's about recognizing thattrue stability is not about
staying the same, but aboutadapting and thriving in the
face of constant change.
To me, it feels like a muchmore engaging and way less
linear dance.
Change changes us in the process.
We are growing, evolving andchanging every day and every
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moment of our lives.
When we can ride that wave, theexperience can be a whole lot
more fulfilling and maybe alittle less traumatic too.
Awareness, self-compassion andpositive self-talk go a long way
towards helping us recognizeand manage change.
Sometimes we seek change.
There's something we want inour lives, enough to disrupt the
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status quo.
At other times, change happensand it feels like we have no
control over it Losing a job ora global pandemic, for example.
The way we deal with theprocess will go a long way to
determining how successful wefeel in moving through it.
If you've ever done a boot campor gone to the gym, you may have
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heard slogans like "pain isweakness, leaving the body and
go hard or go home, or anynumber of other quips the
fitness industry uses to promotea take no prisoners, 150%
effort as a way to get certainkind of results.
Well, I don't love any of these.
Some effort is required to makea change.
You are going to feeluncomfortable.
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If we want to get better atanything, we have to take
ourselves out of our comfortzones, asking a little more of
ourselves than we think we'recapable of.
But rather than throwingeverything we have at the change
, perhaps we could start bybringing awareness, sensitivity,
compassion and care to theprocess.
Sensitivity, compassion andcare to the process.
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That's not just fluffy,feel-good puffery.
There's science to back it up.
In 1936, Dr Hans Selyeintroduced a concept called the
General Adaptation Syndrome, orGAS, to explain how the body
responds to physiological stress.
In the years since, the GASmodel has been widely used in
exercise science to understandhow the body responds to
exercise and to design trainingprograms that promote adaptation
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without causing overtraining.
The principles of GAS have beenused to ensure that athletes
are gradually exposed to stress,allowing their bodies to adapt
and recover along the way.
The model describes threedifferent stages.
The first is the alarm stage.
You are outside your comfortzone and you know it.
Imagine taking on a newphysical activity, like learning
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to row, for example.
If you've never done it before,you'll probably experience some
coordination challenges.
You'll tire quickly and you aregoing to feel it in your legs,
in your core, in your back, inyour shoulders, likely that day,
and maybe for a few days afteras well.
There's probably not much inyour daily life that will
prepare you for that kind ofmovement.
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So if you want to row, you'regoing to have to feel that
discomfort.
The next stage is theresistance stage.
This is where your body beginsto adapt to the new stress.
After a few weeks of rowing,your technique gets better, your
core and your legs are moreinvolved in the process and your
back and your shoulders arebeginning to understand the
assignment.
You're gaining strength.
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The third stage of generaladaptation syndrome is
exhaustion.
If the stress persists or istoo intense, the body's
resources are depleted, leadingto a decline in function.
Now, since 1936, there havebeen advances to Dr Saley's work
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and, despite some questions toits validity in terms of
specifically resistance training, I think it still provides us
with a valuable framework.
If we're looking to create achange of some kind, we need to
provide the body with enoughstress that it begins to adapt,
but not so much stress that itcannot recover and begins to
break down.
Did you know that strength gainsin the body are largely made
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during the rest and recoveryphase and not during the workout
itself?
In an intense workout, littlemicroscopic tears happen in your
muscle tissues.
This is a normal and necessarypart of the process of muscle
growth.
And then, during your restphases, your body repairs those
tissues, creating what's calledhypertrophy, resulting in
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increased strength.
It's growth.
When we don't allow adequaterest, recovery and muscle growth
are hindered.
When we overtrain, we'reessentially getting in our own
way, pushing harder fordiminishing returns.
Brad Stulberg says it quitewell - "Stress plus rest equals
growth.
These are the things that buildresilience.
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I think this all seems prettyclear when we're planning the
change, like when we're lookingat the arc of a training plan.
We could periodize our trainingwith sessions of intensity and
recovery and create a schedulethat gives us a reasonable
expectation of building capacitywithin a certain time period.
If you've ever trained for thesunrun or for a marathon.
You're probably well familiarwith this kind of thing.
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You gradually build your runand then you taper it off
shortly before your race so thatyou can be strong, ready and
not too tired when the startinggun goes off.
Individual athletes will haveto explore how best to manage
their own lives inside of thattraining plan, using rugged
flexibility.
Individual issues like injuries, illnesses, sleepless nights,
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travel and other circumstancesmay have an impact on the
overall plan, but they needn'tupset the apple cart completely.
Things might feel a littledifferent, though, when we're
not anticipating the change,whether it's an injury or a
pandemic.
A sudden and unexpected changecan feel as though we have to
react immediately and with vigorto an unfamiliar situation.
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When this happens, finding asense of groundedness in
ourselves is, I think, criticalbefore we can move forward.
When the pandemic first hit andwe all stared down that huge,
gaping maw of uncertainty infront of us, we all reacted
differently, based on ourcircumstances and our experience
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and our beliefs and our fears,and the facts as we understood
them played a role too.
As a business owner and theowner of a service-based
business where people gathertogether in small groups, I felt
as though my business and Iwere in free fall.
Like so many others, I wasafraid I was going to lose
everything, and in that fear Ioverreacted.
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I jumped in to learn everythingI could learn, which wasn't
much, because this had neverhappened before and everybody
was learning on the fly.
And as soon as I heard thelatest info from the health
ministry, from WorkSafeBC andfrom my municipality best
practices from fitness industry,I went about crafting my plans,
communicating with all mypeople and making stuff happen.
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It felt like I was doingsomething.
The only problem was that theorders kept changing.
Sometimes even within a day ortwo we were fully closed.
We were partially open.
We could open under theseconditions, but not under these
ones.
This was okay, and then,suddenly, it .
wasn't Early on, it It feltimportant to me to keep everyone
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informed about every step ofwhat we were doing, to find ways
to provide the services I'dpromised.
After a while, though, this wasa little like overtraining I
was exhausted, my plans weren'tall that effective and I began
to fall apart.
There is a saying betweenstimulus and response there is a
space, and in that space liesour freedom and our power to
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choose our response.
That space lies our freedom andour power to choose our
response.
In our response lies our growthand our happiness.
One of the biggest things thatI learned during that darned
pandemic was to give myself alittle bit of grace and a little
space when the you-know-whathits the fan.
Take a breath, take another one, ground myself, think, feel and
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then act.
And when I started to work fromthat place, things got a lot
easier and I felt a whole lotbetter about it too.
You'd have to ask my team, butI think I became a better leader
in the process.
That took me a while to figureout, but if you find yourself in
the midst of a sudden andunexpected change or if you're
working inside of the chaos,there are things you can do to
carve out a moment or two tosettle things down and create
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that space between stimulus andresponse.
Here's one from Daniel Siegel.
It's a grounding breath Inhalefor four counts, hold for four
counts and then exhale for sixcounts.
The longer exhale gentlystimulates your parasympathetic
nervous system, that rest anddigest part, and begins to
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signal safety to the brain.
A few cycles of this breath andyou may begin to find the space
to respond rather than react tosudden situations.
We're kind of moving into themindfulness arena here, and I've
heard people talk aboutmindfulness and meditation in a
way that seems reallydisconnected from daily life.
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There's life, and then there'sthis stuff that you can do that
will help you feel better, andto that I say yes.
And.
You can wait until the stormis over and use mindfulness and
meditation techniques to settleyourself.
With practice, though, you canbegin to bring those things into
your life, even during crazy,chaotic or changeable times.
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Dan Siegel talks aboutsomething he calls the SIFT
technique.
That can be a hugely usefultool in navigating some of the
things you'll wrestle with asyou navigate change.
It's a way to reframe some ofthe things you might experience
along the way.
It brings attention to yoursensations, your images, your
feelings and your thoughtsS-I-F-T around a given situation
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.
So let's imagine that you'vedecided you want to feel better
in your body.
You decide to add some newphysical activity to your life
as a way to make that happen,but a few days in, you're
feeling sore, you're tired andyou're generally pretty
discouraged.
This is not the feeling youwere going for.
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So what are your sensations?
You've got aching muscles,fatigue.
In your head, you've gotpictures comparing yourself to
others in class, or maybe you'reimagining injury and getting
scared of that.
You might be feelingfrustration or self-doubt and
you might have thoughts like I'mtoo old for this or I'll never
get stronger.
Raise your hand if you've everfelt any of that.
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So first, well, done you fornoticing what you were
experiencing.
That's the first step.
Next, let's look a little moreclosely at those S-I-F-T
elements and see if we canreframe things a little bit.
So, sensations that sorenessand fatigue in your body means
growth.
You're asking more of yourselfand you're evolving in new ways.
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That's a gentle reframe.
How about those images?
If you're having picturescomparing yourself to others or
imagining injury, shift to apositive visualization of a few
successful moments you had, andwhat you'll be able to do, you
know, create pictures of whatyou'll be able to do as you gain
new strength.
And as far as those feelings go, if you're thinking about
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others doing things better thanyou, well, instead of looking at
what they're doing, recognizethat you showed up and yeah, it
was hard, but you persevered andyou know what?
Consistency brings results.
You may not be where youultimately want yourself to be,
but you are making progress.
Maybe shift your thinking fromI can't do this to I'm learning.
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Small, mindful changes likethese help us foster
self-compassion and motivationand resilience.
Accepting who and where you areright now, being present for
all that means in the moment andhaving the patience to move
through it gently, can improveyour resilience.
That acceptance isn'tresignation or settling.
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It's simply saying here I am,this is hard and I'm here for it
.
Brad Stulberg talks about changeas a cycle and this, I think,
affects us in so many differentways.
He sees it as a period of orderthat moves into a period of
disorder, that moves into aperiod of reorder.
Now, order is when life feelsstable and predictable.
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Disorder is when things startto fall apart.
Reorder is where we buildsomething new from the chaos.
For me, this brings to mind ourworld before the pandemic.
Things felt pretty predictable,if not always exactly what we
wanted or needed.
I know I went about my dayssimply expecting certain things
to be true.
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The pandemic threw all of thatout the window.
Entire systems of health, ofeconomy, of safety, on a global
and individual scale were rockedto the core.
The pandemic exposed all kindsof cracks in what many
previously believed to be asolid foundation.
We went from what felt likeeven an imperfect sense of order
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to a profound disorder, and itrocked us all to the core.
As I say this, I think about theway the world has emerged from
the global pandemic.
We were all in such a hurry toget back to normal that I'm not
sure we're recognizing that weare different on the other side
of it.
We are scarred by theexperience and in other ways we
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are better for it.
I think this is our reorderphase.
We don't know how we're goingto do it yet and in some ways we
are in profound disagreementabout it.
I think this is our reorderphase.
We don't know how we're goingto do it yet and in some ways we
are in profound disagreementabout it.
I don't think it would be astretch to imagine that the
current polarity we see in ourworldviews may stem from a
resistance to the idea thatthings are different now.
Entire systems are in need ofreorganization.
We just can't seem to agree onhow we're going to get there.
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The pandemic showed us that theworld could not support the ways
in which we, especially in theWestern world, were living on
the planet.
If we can recognize that theworld we live in is constantly
evolving, perhaps we could findways to live in new relationship
with it and with each other.
And here's what I believe to bekey.
Disorder isn't something toavoid.
It's where the growth happens,in "he Brain that Changes Itself
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.
Norman Doidge illustrates thisbeautifully with all his stories
of people recovering fromstrokes or trauma by rewiring
their brains through consistenteffort.
They didn't return to their oldselves.
They became stronger versionsof themselves.
We can't avoid change.
It is happening gradually allthe time - where we have a
tendency to stick our heads inthe sand about it; and
sometimes it happens suddenlyand we can't help but have to
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deal with it.
So how do we move throughdisorder into reorder?
I think we have to start byfocusing on what we can control
our daily habits, our mindset,our support systems and let go
of what we don't have anycontrol of.
I know the pandemic taught me alot about that and about myself.
I was afraid of the virus andwhat impact it could have on my
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health and the health of myfamily and my friends and for
those I felt responsible toprotect in my community.
I was afraid of the widereconomic consequences and of my
own financial situation.
My physical, mental andemotional health suffered, and
I'll admit that I felt utterlybroken in the face of it all.
Now, though, I can see that thecracks let new light in
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Traveling my familiar paths onlymade things worse.
First I had to let go of thoseold patterns.
Then I had to learn how to careand have some compassion for
myself in ways that I had neverdone before.
I learned to pay attentiondifferently, to see where it
might be possible to think oract in a different way, and at
first it felt like I was justletting go of everything that
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mattered, basically giving up.
I understand now that I waslearning a new way of being.
It was somewhere in this periodthat I found Brad Stulberg's
work, in particular the Practiceof Groundedness, and as I read
his book I realized that I wasintuitively playing with what he
calls the pillars ofgroundedness: acceptance,
presence and patience.
I am no expert, but I am divinginto this wholeheartedly.
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Those of you that work with mewill likely have noticed some
more purposeful moves in thedirection of self-knowledge and
self-care in the Pilates studioand in our programs and even in
the podcast.
More than ever, I believedeeply that everything we really
need is inside of us, but wecan't know what that is or how
to access it until we focus onfostering awareness, building
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new skills and opening ourselvesup to fresh perspectives,
instead of fixating on theoutcomes that we can't predict
and trying to get there in theways we've always gotten there
before.
When I'm working with people tofind more freedom and healthy
movement in their bodies, I amalways looking at the
relationships between things.
Those relationships have power.
One thing Daniel Siegelemphasizes in his work is that
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relationships literally reshapeour brains, a concept he calls
interpersonal neurobiology.
When we connect with othersduring times of change, we build
resilience together.
I know for a fact that MovingSpirit Pilates would not have
survived the pandemic withoutthe incredible community that
has developed in that studioover the years, and for that I
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am deeply, deeply grateful.
I see the power of community inthe Pilates studio every day.
When one client faces anunexpected health challenge,
people rally around them, notjust with words, but with
presence.
People come to work on theirown stuff, but I see that the
friendships and connections thathave evolved, create beautiful
support systems.
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People feel seen and heard andthat provides a supportive
environment for everyone, andthat is my hope that we keep
doing this.
If you are facing change rightnow, lean on your community or
start building one.
If you don't have it yet, joina class or a group where people
share similar goals orchallenges.
Connection isn't justcomforting.
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It can be life-changing.
Change isn't easy, but it'spossible to navigate it with
grace and strength when weaccept it, embrace some rugged
flexibility, ground ourselves inmindfulness and lean on our
communities for support.
It is my deep hope that, as weas individuals and in our near
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and global communities as weface new challenges, we can work
to understand ourselves and theproblems we face together.
That takes some courage.
The path through disorder isnever linear.
Whether we like it or not, it'swhere the magic happens.
If we can let go of black andwhite thinking of this versus
that or us versus them paradigmsand explore the wide range of
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new possibilities, we might justfind a new, even more beautiful
normal.
Thank you for joining me todayon the Heart in Motion podcast.
If this episode has resonatedwith you or sparked an idea
about how you navigate change inyour own life.
I'd love to hear from you.
You can find me at MovingSpirit Pilates.
Email me at sue atmovingspiritca, or find me on
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social media at the MovingSpirit or at Heart of Motion
Podcast.
Until next time, whatever kindof change you are navigating now
, go with all your heart.
Welcome to the Heart of Motion podcast.
I'm Susanna Steers and I'll beyour host as we explore the
heart, soul and science ofmovement as a pathway to more
active, vibrant and connectedliving.
Nothing happens until somethingmoves, so let's get started.
Way back in 500 BC, greekphilosopher Heraclitus suggested
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that the only constant in lifeis change.
I think it could be argued thatresistance to change is another
pretty universal thing.
Whether it's a career shift, ahealth challenge, aging or even
just adapting to new routines,change can throw us off balance
and we can feel uncomfortableand even vulnerable.
I've been thinking a lot aboutchange in recent years, and I
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guess I wanted to share some ofthe things that I've learned.
Our brains and our nervoussystems are hardwired to create
patterns of activity to promotespeed and efficiency in our
actions.
The more we practice thosepatterns, the more deeply
ingrained they become and thefaster we're able to act.
In certain ways, we programourselves into thinking or doing
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things on a pretty predictablepath.
It's an efficient way of doingthings, if you think about it.
When we encounter situationsoutside the familiar, though, or
when we attempt to do thingsdifferently, we're a little less
efficient at first, a littleless sure, less immediately
capable.
We might even be afraid.
What if we could approach itdifferently?
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What if we could see change notas something to fear but as an
opportunity for growth?
I've always figured that it waspart of my job as a movement
teacher to support people increating or managing changes,
particularly in their bodies.
Movement is a great way tocreate change and to begin to
see where change might bepossible, and it can be a
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powerful way to shore us up whenchange is happening for us.
People walk into a Pilatesstudio for a reason, walk into a
Pilates studio for a reason,and often the physical changes
they seek are actually a pathwayto handling other aspects of
their lives in different ways.
Today, I want to look at waysthat we might explore to move
through life's twists and turnswithout losing our footing.
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I'm going to share some of myown perspectives and we'll
explore some science-backedstrategies from researchers.
I respect particularly BradStulberg, a resilience and
performance expert, as well asneuroscientist Norman Doidge and
mindfulness pioneer DanielSiegel.
And, as always, we're going tokeep movement at the heart of
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things.
In his recent book, Master ofChange, brad Stulberg suggests
that we might view change not asan acute event but as a
constant of life, a cycle inwhich we are ongoing
participants.
In the book he introduces aconcept that I love, something
he calls rugged flexibility.
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The idea is about being tough,determined and durable while at
the same time being adaptable,able to bend easily without
breaking and to consciouslyrespond to change, resulting in
a gritty endurance that allowsus to thrive in the face of
change.
You might picture ruggedflexibility a little like a
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willow tree.
The tree's trunk is like yoursense of self and your values.
In a storm, that trunk staysrooted, but the branches bend
and sway in the wind.
This picture kind of gives usan image of constant movement as
well as a sense of stabilityand constancy.
So let me bring it back to thebody for a sec.
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Let's say you've injured yourknee.
It might be tempting just togive in to the discomfort and
say to yourself I'm injured andI can't do the things, and then
just put your feet up and watchTV instead until the injury is
healed.
That's a choice you could make,and if you're out for six to
eight weeks, you might beclimbing the walls by the time
you're cleared for full activity.
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So let's think about it anotherway.
Yes, you've had a setback.
What if you approach thesituation with rugged
flexibility instead?
In this case, it might meanchanging up your workout routine
, shifting to things that youcan accomplish without causing
problems for that injured knee.
Instead of skipping the workoutcompletely, you might choose to
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modify your exercises, reducethe load volume or shift to
other activities that you canmanage.
You might need more recoverytime or longer breaks, I don't
know.
It might even mean somethingmore complicated.
The idea is to be open and tofind something you can do to
help yourself weather the changewithout abandoning your goals
and your values completely.
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If you can embrace the changeinstead of resisting it, you'll
probably learn something newabout yourself and your body in
the process, and when you comeback to full strength, it won't
be the old you.
It will be a new, wiser you.
Regardless of the choices youmake, you'll have to bring
awareness to the potentialchallenges of your circumstances
.
Before making any knee-jerkreactions to a change, take a
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moment to assess the situation,to understand the implications
and to make a loose plan formoving forward.
Focus on what you can control.
What are the aspects of yourtraining that you can still
influence?
Be adaptable to new variableswhen they arise, and when you
can incorporate a variety ofexercises and different training
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methods, you'll probably bebetter equipped to adapt to
those unexpected changes.
If movement and conditioningare important to you, keep your
eyes on the prize.
By focusing on your core valuesand your goals, you'll likely
find your way through toughterritory without feeling
utterly defeated by theunexpected change.
So here's where things get evenmore interesting.
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I spoke earlier about how ourbrains and nervous systems
create patterns of neuralpathways to help us move quickly
and efficiently, but sciencealso shows us that our brains
are wired for adaptability.
In his book "The Brain thatChanges Itself, neuroscientist
Norman Deutsch describes aprocess by which the brain is
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able to rewire itself inresponse to new experiences.
It's called neuroplasticity.
If you've spent any time atMovies, beer, pilates, you've
probably heard the term a timeor two.
We can see neuroplasticity inaction quite dramatically in
someone who learns to read orspeak after a stroke, for
example.
What occurs is a profoundrepatterning of the brain.
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That can seem utterlymiraculous, and it kind of is
Neuroplastic.
Change happens when specificsignals are repeatedly sent
between neurons, creating newpathways from your brain to your
foot or your foot to your brain, for example.
When a previous pathway becomesunavailable, your brain, given
the right conditions, can figureout a detour.
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Deutsch stresses that learningand experience play crucial
roles in shaping both the brainand its functions.
Good quality repetition andreinforcement of desired actions
are important in developing newpathways, and it's a two-way
street the brain affects thebody and the body affects the
brain, both sending signals thatinfluence the other.
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In our Pilates studio, my teamand I often ask people to notice
what they experience isdifferent when they're exploring
postural changes or learning anew movement skill.
Awareness of the body and itsmovement is the first step
toward encouraging some of thisneuroplastic change.
Your brain needs to be awarethat something is different and
it needs to sense that thatdifferent is meaningful to you
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in some way.
Then it's important toexperience or practice the new
thing as often as possible in ashort period of time that
encourages your system to shiftits attention from an old way of
doing things to a fresh way oforganizing and traveling those
new neural pathways.
The truth is that every time weface a challenge or step
outside our comfort zone, ourbrains create new pathways.
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It's like carving a new trailthrough dense forest.
At first it feels hard andunfamiliar, but over time it
becomes easier and then almostautomatic.
So where do we start?
If we're talking about actionsteps for navigating change,
then the first strategy might beto learn to embrace discomfort
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as a part of growth.
And while the body can serve asa beacon of sorts, a truth
teller, I think we canextrapolate this strategy into
pretty much the rest of ourlives.
When we feel resistance,whether it's learning a new
skill, changing our habits orstarting a new job, reminding
ourselves that our brains arecreating new connections is
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important.
Discomfort isn't a sign thatwe're failing.
Instead, it's proof that we'reevolving.
So let's go back to BradStulberg's work for a minute.
For years, when discussionturned to topics of the body,
conversation often revolvedaround ways to help the body to
find homeostasis for best health.
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The idea behind homeostasis isthat the body will do everything
it can to find, or revert to astate of balance inside itself.
Now, in my mind, while there iscomfort in knowing that the
boat will essentially try toright itself, it seems like kind
of a reactive way of gettingthere, doesn't it?
Brad Stelberg talks aboutallostasis instead.
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In his view, healthy systemsadapt to change and find new
forms of stability instead ofrigidly resisting it, as in the
more traditional concept ofhomeostasis.
Rigidly resisting it, as in themore traditional concept of
homeostasis.
Stulberg emphasizes that thisis called stability through
change.
In essence, allostasis is aboutembracing change as a natural
part of life and finding a newequilibrium after a period of
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change.
It's about recognizing thattrue stability is not about
staying the same, but aboutadapting and thriving in the
face of constant change.
To me, it feels like a muchmore engaging and way less
linear dance.
Change changes us in the process.
We are growing, evolving andchanging every day and every
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moment of our lives.
When we can ride that wave, theexperience can be a whole lot
more fulfilling and maybe alittle less traumatic too.
Awareness, self-compassion andpositive self-talk go a long way
towards helping us recognizeand manage change.
Sometimes we seek change.
There's something we want inour lives, enough to disrupt the
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status quo.
At other times, change happensand it feels like we have no
control over it Losing a job ora global pandemic, for example.
The way we deal with theprocess will go a long way to
determining how successful wefeel in moving through it.
If you've ever done a boot campor gone to the gym, you may have
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heard slogans like "pain isweakness, leaving the body and
go hard or go home, or anynumber of other quips the
fitness industry uses to promotea take no prisoners, 150%
effort as a way to get certainkind of results.
Well, I don't love any of these.
Some effort is required to makea change.
You are going to feeluncomfortable.
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If we want to get better atanything, we have to take
ourselves out of our comfortzones, asking a little more of
ourselves than we think we'recapable of.
But rather than throwingeverything we have at the change
, perhaps we could start bybringing awareness, sensitivity,
compassion and care to theprocess.
Sensitivity, compassion andcare to the process.
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That's not just fluffy,feel-good puffery.
There's science to back it up.
In 1936, Dr Hans Selyeintroduced a concept called the
General Adaptation Syndrome, orGAS, to explain how the body
responds to physiological stress.
In the years since, the GASmodel has been widely used in
exercise science to understandhow the body responds to
exercise and to design trainingprograms that promote adaptation
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without causing overtraining.
The principles of GAS have beenused to ensure that athletes
are gradually exposed to stress,allowing their bodies to adapt
and recover along the way.
The model describes threedifferent stages.
The first is the alarm stage.
You are outside your comfortzone and you know it.
Imagine taking on a newphysical activity, like learning
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to row, for example.
If you've never done it before,you'll probably experience some
coordination challenges.
You'll tire quickly and you aregoing to feel it in your legs,
in your core, in your back, inyour shoulders, likely that day,
and maybe for a few days afteras well.
There's probably not much inyour daily life that will
prepare you for that kind ofmovement.
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So if you want to row, you'regoing to have to feel that
discomfort.
The next stage is theresistance stage.
This is where your body beginsto adapt to the new stress.
After a few weeks of rowing,your technique gets better, your
core and your legs are moreinvolved in the process and your
back and your shoulders arebeginning to understand the
assignment.
You're gaining strength.
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The third stage of generaladaptation syndrome is
exhaustion.
If the stress persists or istoo intense, the body's
resources are depleted, leadingto a decline in function.
Now, since 1936, there havebeen advances to Dr Saley's work
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and, despite some questions toits validity in terms of
specifically resistance training, I think it still provides us
with a valuable framework.
If we're looking to create achange of some kind, we need to
provide the body with enoughstress that it begins to adapt,
but not so much stress that itcannot recover and begins to
break down.
Did you know that strength gainsin the body are largely made
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during the rest and recoveryphase and not during the workout
itself?
In an intense workout, littlemicroscopic tears happen in your
muscle tissues.
This is a normal and necessarypart of the process of muscle
growth.
And then, during your restphases, your body repairs those
tissues, creating what's calledhypertrophy, resulting in
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increased strength.
It's growth.
When we don't allow adequaterest, recovery and muscle growth
are hindered.
When we overtrain, we'reessentially getting in our own
way, pushing harder fordiminishing returns.
Brad Stulberg says it quitewell - "Stress plus rest equals
growth.
These are the things that buildresilience.
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I think this all seems prettyclear when we're planning the
change, like when we're lookingat the arc of a training plan.
We could periodize our trainingwith sessions of intensity and
recovery and create a schedulethat gives us a reasonable
expectation of building capacitywithin a certain time period.
If you've ever trained for thesunrun or for a marathon.
You're probably well familiarwith this kind of thing.
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You gradually build your runand then you taper it off
shortly before your race so thatyou can be strong, ready and
not too tired when the startinggun goes off.
Individual athletes will haveto explore how best to manage
their own lives inside of thattraining plan, using rugged
flexibility.
Individual issues like injuries, illnesses, sleepless nights,
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travel and other circumstancesmay have an impact on the
overall plan, but they needn'tupset the apple cart completely.
Things might feel a littledifferent, though, when we're
not anticipating the change,whether it's an injury or a
pandemic.
A sudden and unexpected changecan feel as though we have to
react immediately and with vigorto an unfamiliar situation.
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When this happens, finding asense of groundedness in
ourselves is, I think, criticalbefore we can move forward.
When the pandemic first hit andwe all stared down that huge,
gaping maw of uncertainty infront of us, we all reacted
differently, based on ourcircumstances and our experience
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and our beliefs and our fears,and the facts as we understood
them played a role too.
As a business owner and theowner of a service-based
business where people gathertogether in small groups, I felt
as though my business and Iwere in free fall.
Like so many others, I wasafraid I was going to lose
everything, and in that fear Ioverreacted.
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I jumped in to learn everythingI could learn, which wasn't
much, because this had neverhappened before and everybody
was learning on the fly.
And as soon as I heard thelatest info from the health
ministry, from WorkSafeBC andfrom my municipality best
practices from fitness industry,I went about crafting my plans,
communicating with all mypeople and making stuff happen.
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It felt like I was doingsomething.
The only problem was that theorders kept changing.
Sometimes even within a day ortwo we were fully closed.
We were partially open.
We could open under theseconditions, but not under these
ones.
This was okay, and then,suddenly, it .
wasn't Early on, it It feltimportant to me to keep everyone
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informed about every step ofwhat we were doing, to find ways
to provide the services I'dpromised.
After a while, though, this wasa little like overtraining I
was exhausted, my plans weren'tall that effective and I began
to fall apart.
There is a saying betweenstimulus and response there is a
space, and in that space liesour freedom and our power to
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choose our response.
That space lies our freedom andour power to choose our
response.
In our response lies our growthand our happiness.
One of the biggest things thatI learned during that darned
pandemic was to give myself alittle bit of grace and a little
space when the you-know-whathits the fan.
Take a breath, take another one, ground myself, think, feel and
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then act.
And when I started to work fromthat place, things got a lot
easier and I felt a whole lotbetter about it too.
You'd have to ask my team, butI think I became a better leader
in the process.
That took me a while to figureout, but if you find yourself in
the midst of a sudden andunexpected change or if you're
working inside of the chaos,there are things you can do to
carve out a moment or two tosettle things down and create
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that space between stimulus andresponse.
Here's one from Daniel Siegel.
It's a grounding breath Inhalefor four counts, hold for four
counts and then exhale for sixcounts.
The longer exhale gentlystimulates your parasympathetic
nervous system, that rest anddigest part, and begins to
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signal safety to the brain.
A few cycles of this breath andyou may begin to find the space
to respond rather than react tosudden situations.
We're kind of moving into themindfulness arena here, and I've
heard people talk aboutmindfulness and meditation in a
way that seems reallydisconnected from daily life.
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There's life, and then there'sthis stuff that you can do that
will help you feel better, andto that I say yes.
And.
You can wait until the stormis over and use mindfulness and
meditation techniques to settleyourself.
With practice, though, you canbegin to bring those things into
your life, even during crazy,chaotic or changeable times.
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Dan Siegel talks aboutsomething he calls the SIFT
technique.
That can be a hugely usefultool in navigating some of the
things you'll wrestle with asyou navigate change.
It's a way to reframe some ofthe things you might experience
along the way.
It brings attention to yoursensations, your images, your
feelings and your thoughtsS-I-F-T around a given situation
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.
So let's imagine that you'vedecided you want to feel better
in your body.
You decide to add some newphysical activity to your life
as a way to make that happen,but a few days in, you're
feeling sore, you're tired andyou're generally pretty
discouraged.
This is not the feeling youwere going for.
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So what are your sensations?
You've got aching muscles,fatigue.
In your head, you've gotpictures comparing yourself to
others in class, or maybe you'reimagining injury and getting
scared of that.
You might be feelingfrustration or self-doubt and
you might have thoughts like I'mtoo old for this or I'll never
get stronger.
Raise your hand if you've everfelt any of that.
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So first, well, done you fornoticing what you were
experiencing.
That's the first step.
Next, let's look a little moreclosely at those S-I-F-T
elements and see if we canreframe things a little bit.
So, sensations that sorenessand fatigue in your body means
growth.
You're asking more of yourselfand you're evolving in new ways.
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That's a gentle reframe.
How about those images?
If you're having picturescomparing yourself to others or
imagining injury, shift to apositive visualization of a few
successful moments you had, andwhat you'll be able to do, you
know, create pictures of whatyou'll be able to do as you gain
new strength.
And as far as those feelings go, if you're thinking about
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others doing things better thanyou, well, instead of looking at
what they're doing, recognizethat you showed up and yeah, it
was hard, but you persevered andyou know what?
Consistency brings results.
You may not be where youultimately want yourself to be,
but you are making progress.
Maybe shift your thinking fromI can't do this to I'm learning.
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Small, mindful changes likethese help us foster
self-compassion and motivationand resilience.
Accepting who and where you areright now, being present for
all that means in the moment andhaving the patience to move
through it gently, can improveyour resilience.
That acceptance isn'tresignation or settling.
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It's simply saying here I am,this is hard and I'm here for it
.
Brad Stulberg talks about changeas a cycle and this, I think,
affects us in so many differentways.
He sees it as a period of orderthat moves into a period of
disorder, that moves into aperiod of reorder.
Now, order is when life feelsstable and predictable.
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Disorder is when things startto fall apart.
Reorder is where we buildsomething new from the chaos.
For me, this brings to mind ourworld before the pandemic.
Things felt pretty predictable,if not always exactly what we
wanted or needed.
I know I went about my dayssimply expecting certain things
to be true.
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The pandemic threw all of thatout the window.
Entire systems of health, ofeconomy, of safety, on a global
and individual scale were rockedto the core.
The pandemic exposed all kindsof cracks in what many
previously believed to be asolid foundation.
We went from what felt likeeven an imperfect sense of order
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to a profound disorder, and itrocked us all to the core.
As I say this, I think about theway the world has emerged from
the global pandemic.
We were all in such a hurry toget back to normal that I'm not
sure we're recognizing that weare different on the other side
of it.
We are scarred by theexperience and in other ways we
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are better for it.
I think this is our reorderphase.
We don't know how we're goingto do it yet and in some ways we
are in profound disagreementabout it.
I think this is our reorderphase.
We don't know how we're goingto do it yet and in some ways we
are in profound disagreementabout it.
I don't think it would be astretch to imagine that the
current polarity we see in ourworldviews may stem from a
resistance to the idea thatthings are different now.
Entire systems are in need ofreorganization.
We just can't seem to agree onhow we're going to get there.
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The pandemic showed us that theworld could not support the ways
in which we, especially in theWestern world, were living on
the planet.
If we can recognize that theworld we live in is constantly
evolving, perhaps we could findways to live in new relationship
with it and with each other.
And here's what I believe to bekey.
Disorder isn't something toavoid.
It's where the growth happens,in "he Brain that Changes Itself
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.
Norman Doidge illustrates thisbeautifully with all his stories
of people recovering fromstrokes or trauma by rewiring
their brains through consistenteffort.
They didn't return to their oldselves.
They became stronger versionsof themselves.
We can't avoid change.
It is happening gradually allthe time - where we have a
tendency to stick our heads inthe sand about it; and
sometimes it happens suddenlyand we can't help but have to
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deal with it.
So how do we move throughdisorder into reorder?
I think we have to start byfocusing on what we can control
our daily habits, our mindset,our support systems and let go
of what we don't have anycontrol of.
I know the pandemic taught me alot about that and about myself.
I was afraid of the virus andwhat impact it could have on my
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health and the health of myfamily and my friends and for
those I felt responsible toprotect in my community.
I was afraid of the widereconomic consequences and of my
own financial situation.
My physical, mental andemotional health suffered, and
I'll admit that I felt utterlybroken in the face of it all.
Now, though, I can see that thecracks let new light in
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Traveling my familiar paths onlymade things worse.
First I had to let go of thoseold patterns.
Then I had to learn how to careand have some compassion for
myself in ways that I had neverdone before.
I learned to pay attentiondifferently, to see where it
might be possible to think oract in a different way, and at
first it felt like I was justletting go of everything that
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mattered, basically giving up.
I understand now that I waslearning a new way of being.
It was somewhere in this periodthat I found Brad Stulberg's
work, in particular the Practiceof Groundedness, and as I read
his book I realized that I wasintuitively playing with what he
calls the pillars ofgroundedness: acceptance,
presence and patience.
I am no expert, but I am divinginto this wholeheartedly.
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Those of you that work with mewill likely have noticed some
more purposeful moves in thedirection of self-knowledge and
self-care in the Pilates studioand in our programs and even in
the podcast.
More than ever, I believedeeply that everything we really
need is inside of us, but wecan't know what that is or how
to access it until we focus onfostering awareness, building
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new skills and opening ourselvesup to fresh perspectives,
instead of fixating on theoutcomes that we can't predict
and trying to get there in theways we've always gotten there
before.
When I'm working with people tofind more freedom and healthy
movement in their bodies, I amalways looking at the
relationships between things.
Those relationships have power.
One thing Daniel Siegelemphasizes in his work is that
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relationships literally reshapeour brains, a concept he calls
interpersonal neurobiology.
When we connect with othersduring times of change, we build
resilience together.
I know for a fact that MovingSpirit Pilates would not have
survived the pandemic withoutthe incredible community that
has developed in that studioover the years, and for that I
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am deeply, deeply grateful.
I see the power of community inthe Pilates studio every day.
When one client faces anunexpected health challenge,
people rally around them, notjust with words, but with
presence.
People come to work on theirown stuff, but I see that the
friendships and connections thathave evolved, create beautiful
support systems.
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People feel seen and heard andthat provides a supportive
environment for everyone, andthat is my hope that we keep
doing this.
If you are facing change rightnow, lean on your community or
start building one.
If you don't have it yet, joina class or a group where people
share similar goals orchallenges.
Connection isn't justcomforting.
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It can be life-changing.
Change isn't easy, but it'spossible to navigate it with
grace and strength when weaccept it, embrace some rugged
flexibility, ground ourselves inmindfulness and lean on our
communities for support.
It is my deep hope that, as weas individuals and in our near
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and global communities as weface new challenges, we can work
to understand ourselves and theproblems we face together.
That takes some courage.
The path through disorder isnever linear.
Whether we like it or not, it'swhere the magic happens.
If we can let go of black andwhite thinking of this versus
that or us versus them paradigmsand explore the wide range of
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new possibilities, we might justfind a new, even more beautiful
normal.
Thank you for joining me todayon the Heart in Motion podcast.
If this episode has resonatedwith you or sparked an idea
about how you navigate change inyour own life.
I'd love to hear from you.
You can find me at MovingSpirit Pilates.
Email me at sue atmovingspiritca, or find me on
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social media at the MovingSpirit or at Heart of Motion
Podcast.
Until next time, whatever kindof change you are navigating now
, go with all your heart.
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