Finding Inner Wisdom

The wisdom we seek is often already within us – but how do we access it? In this illuminating conversation with transformation coach and spiritual mentor Rachel Linnett, we explore how movement, creativity and self-love can becomes a powerful pathways to self-discovery, inner wisdom, and personal evolution.

Rather than seeking transformation through prescribed programs promising a "new you," she guides us toward embracing and accepting all aspects of ourselves – even those parts we'd prefer to hide. This radical acceptance becomes the foundation for genuine growth and change.

Drawing from 18+ years of experience coaching others and her own healing journey, Rachel shares how creative expression through painting unlocked emotional healing and reconnected her with suppressed aspects of herself. She offers practical insights for navigating life transitions, including the power of conscious breathing patterns to calm our nervous systems during challenging times.

Rachel also introduces her forthcoming book, "Droplets of Love: The Art of Loving Yourself into Freedom," which offers personal stories, insights, and practical tools for transforming unworthiness and self-doubt into self-acceptance and love.

Whether you're navigating personal challenges or seeking deeper meaning in your movement practice, this conversation illuminates how the journey inward ultimately leads to more authentic and purposeful engagement with life. 

About Rachel Linnett 

Rachel Linnett, a transformational coach and spiritual mentor with over 18 years of experience, guides others on journeys of self-healing and inner discovery. 

Originally from England, and now living by the ocean in Connecticut, Rachel's own path of healing from a challenging childhood inspired her insatiable passion for empowering others to do the same. 

A creative soul with a love for painting, colour and flowers, she infuses her work with warmth, humour, and deep insight. By helping clients connect with their inner wisdom, Rachel supports them in embrac ing lives aligned with their True Selves - filled with authenticity, purpose and joy. 

Her first book, "Droplets of Love - The Art of Loving Yourself in to Freedom" was published in April 2025. 

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Heart of Motion Podcast host Susannah Steers is a Pilates & Integrated Movement Specialist and owner of Moving Spirit Pilates in North Vancouver, BC. She is passionate about movement, about connections and about life.

Through movement teaching, speaking, and facilitating workshops, she supports people in creating movement practices that promote fitness from the inside out. She loves building community, and participating in multi-disciplinary collaborations.

Along with her friend and colleague Gillian McCormick, Susannah also co-hosts The Small Conversations for a Better World podcast – an interview based podcast dedicated to promoting the kind of conversations about health that can spark positive change in individuals, families, communities and across the globe.

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heart, soul and science ofmovement as a pathway to more
active, vibrant and connectedliving.
Nothing happens until somethingmoves, so let's get started.
You may have at some point heardthe phrase "everything you need

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is already within you.
Maybe you have mixed feelingsabout that sentence.
I mean, if you need money or aplan or some kind of support
right away to solve an urgentproblem, it might be hard to
believe that the resources youneed are already there inside
you.
If you're feeling powerlessagainst something that's
happening in your life, it mightnot feel as though you have

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what you need.
When you've lived life a little,you've probably experienced
some solid knocks along the way,and however those knocks
affected you, you learnedsomething in the process,
something that you carry forwardin your life that either
supports you and helps you moveforward, or something that acts
as a barrier and holds you backfrom leading the life you want.

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I'm recognizing that for me,this idea is kind of about
growth, about understanding whowe are, what's important to us
and what we need to supportourselves, and sometimes that
means untangling old patterns ofthought, belief and behavior,
recognizing value in parts ofourselves we didn't credit
before, and in doing work tolearn new skills, manage

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thoughts and emotions andconsistently do the things that
give us the resources that weneed to succeed, whatever that
means to us.
I see this in the Pilates studioall the time.
People will often come inlooking for exercise that will
improve their core and do allthe things Pilates is famous for
, and when people come inexpecting the exercises to do

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all the work, they'll get somekind of results.
Pilates is good that way.
But when they can take the nextstep, when they can sink into
the quality and nuances of theirmovement, explore their
patterns and start to recognizewhere those influence their
movement beyond the Pilatesstudio, a whole new range of
possibilities becomes available,and that growth means that they
can engage in their worldsdifferently, with more

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confidence and capacity, andsuddenly the work they've done
to improve their physical healthbecomes a tool in how they
navigate the world.
They had what they neededinside of them that knowledge,
that understanding and theyfigured out a way to use it to
support themselves differently.
So I know that movement can be apowerful tool into
self-knowledge and self-care andas a way to improve health and

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well-being.
But when we widen the lens, wecan often find our way to a
deeper understanding, and I knowthat today, my guest is going
to help us do just that.
Rachel Linnett is atransformational coach and a
spiritual mentor of over 18years.
She guides others on a journeyof self-healing and inner
discovery.
Originally from England and nowliving by the ocean in

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Connecticut, rachel's own pathof healing from a challenging
childhood inspired herinsatiable passion for
empowering others to do the same.
By helping clients connect withtheir inner wisdom, rachel
supports them in embracing livesaligned with their true selves,
filled with authenticity,purpose and joy.
Rachel, welcome to the HeartEmotion Podcast

Rachel Linnett (03:18):
Hi Susannah, thank you so much for inviting
me onto your podcast.
It's such a pleasure to be inconversation with you today.

Susannah Steers (03:25):
I'm so thrilled to finally have a chance to
talk to you in person.
There are so many passions weseem to share.
We're both coast dwellers andnature lovers, we're both into
Pilates, and it's pretty clearthat movement plays a big part
in your life too.
So I'm curious what movementmeans to you.
Is it purely a physical thing,or does it connect you to
different parts of yourself orto other people?

Rachel Linnett (03:47):
Great question.
For me, movement has so manydifferent aspects, depending on
the mood I'm in and what's goingon in my life.
I mean, I've always beensomebody who has loved to move.
I rarely sit still, so in partit's a physical exercise, in
part it is just to really lookafter myself and my overall
well-being in terms of healthand things like that.

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But it's also that what I'vediscovered is it is a great way
to be able to access my innerwisdom, which was sort of
interesting to me because I hadalways assumed that you years
ago, that you needed to be stilland sit in meditation and be
quiet to gain access to thatwisdom.
And I've come to realize for methat's not true, and I believe

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that's the case for a lot ofother people too.
And so movement also is greatfor moving energy and
particularly stuck energy.
So if I've got some big stuffgoing on I was, you know it's
really great to just be able tomove, whether it's literally
shaking your body or dancing.
I mean that is usually my go-tobecause I can do that wherever

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I am Just a quick boogie around,bit of disco going on, and as
the moment I start to dance, myheart lights up and I just am
flooded with this incrediblefeeling, with a great big smile
on my face.
That takes me back to myteenage years and my early
twenties when I was out clubbingand having a great time.
So it's also wonderful becauseit reconnects me to those parts

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of me that didn't have all ofthese sort of serious things
going on in life.
You know, as we become adultsand the responsibilities, so
that's lovely too.
I get to reconnect with thoseother parts of me.
So I think it's multifacetedexercise for me,

Susannah Steers (05:27):
It sounds like there's that piece of play
inside there too that, again, asadults, we kind of forget about
sometimes.
I feel like one of the otherthings we share is the ability
to partner with people in theirown healing journeys.
Now I'm a Pilates teacher.
I may not always know the fulldetails about healing journeys
my clients are on, but I lovethe fact that I can be present

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with them as they navigate theirbodies and their movement over
time, because you see thechanges and you see the growth
that people experience.
So I'd love to hear a littlebit more about your work and how
you support people in creatinglasting change in their lives.

Rachel Linnett (06:09):
Yeah.
So for me, I've moved throughdifferent phases with my work, I
suppose, and starting out within the world of Pilates about 20
years ago now, and thenmorphing into other things with
Reiki was hands-on healing andthings and moving to many other
modalities.
But what I've really come torealize and experience on a

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visceral level is that so muchprofound change, and lasting
change, happens when we connectwith our deeper selves inside,
and my personal experience withthat is particularly with the
heart energy, and I'm referringto the heart of hearts, which is

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not the biological heart, butit is really the core of our
being, and our logical mind hasno idea where to find that.
It's not got a clue.
But when we can just ask withinourselves where to be in this
place, to be asked to be shownthis place, then it all becomes
apparent.
It's all right there.

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It's in fact, as one of myteachers says, it's so close
that it's closer than your ownbreath, and so of course that's
the spiritual side.
But I also work with a range ofpeople, because some people come
to me and they're notspiritually minded, and so with
my coaching side, and I alsolove the fact that it's really

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easy to work with people whodon't want to explore going into
the core of their being,necessarily, and that change can
happen using all kinds of othertools that have been created by
wonderful people over the yearsand so sure I use, depending.
So I suppose what I'm saying isit's so dependent upon the
person, who they are, what theirbackground is, whether they're
really in the mind or whetherthey're, you know, really are

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somebody who's very kinestheticand feels feelings.
You know some people who someperson who's very in the mind
will be like well, feelings, no,don't want to go there.
If you start saying, go intothe sadness, they're like what
are you talking about?
I don't know where that is, Ican't connect to that.
So you know, you really have tojust be flexible and go with
the flow, and it really ispacing with the other person and

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meeting them where they are.
So I firmly believe there is nosingle way that you can assist
somebody in creating thattransformation.
It really is such a uniquejourney based on who they are,
what their background is andwhat they want to experience.

Susannah Steers (08:43):
Yeah, that personal connection is so
important and the understandingof where they are.
I remember having aconversation at one point with a
surgeon I was working with andI was young in my career and I
was giving him all kinds ofbeautiful imagery about body and
movement and he sort of gave mea side eye and said honey,
that's very pretty pictures, butplease just give me the anatomy

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.
I could do that.
So we went a different road.
I have a question for you, and Ihope you're okay with me asking
this question.
It's about transformation and Ihear you talk about
transformation andtransformative change and I have
to admit sometimes I have anissue with the idea of

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transformation.
Now, sometimes I feel like theidea of transformation has, in a
way, been hijacked by thewellness industry, using
people's pain to promise elusiveresults or results that
probably aren't, as you say,connecting with them on that
deeper level.
The lure is a kind of a wholenew you arrived at, usually

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through an eight-step process orsomething, and it's been used
for years in weight loss and infitness and in all kinds of
different spaces, and I have toconfess I used to use that word
a fair bit, but I've grown a bitweary of the term because it
seems to be thrown around socasually and maybe it makes

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people feel like they're notenough just as they are.
They've got the theme FOMO now.
Oh, I have to be optimizing andimproving and doing all these
things to make myself better,but I know that transformation
is possible and change isimportant if that's what people
are wanting and ready for.
My belief at this point is thatit takes a fair bit of

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self-knowledge, compassion andreally just letting go sometimes
to allow it to happen.
So I'd love to ask you to weighin on the idea of
transformation from yourperspective, both in your
personal journey and as a coacha lot in there.

Rachel Linnett (10:52):
I know sorry, no , I loved it really great, and I
love your question abouttransformation.
I really do, because I grow sotired as well of this idea of
there being an end goal, ofthere being a perfect human
being.
And if only you do this, this,this and this, whether it's read
my book, follow my approach orwhatever it might be, whatever
the deal is, do my course, youwill be X, y, z, and I don't

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ascribe to that.
I think that puts so muchpressure on people and, as you
said, has people believingthey're not okay as they are.
Now.
I come from this place, at thispoint in my life, which really
focuses on acceptance acceptanceof every single part of who we
already are as we sit here todayin discussion, are good bits

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that well meaning the bits welike, the bits we really don't
like and the bits we detest andnever want to show to anybody.
And we all have them.
We do, and so I think for me,transformation centers around
accepting oneself.
That in itself is atransformation from somebody who
is so firmly like no, that'snot me, no, I'm fine, I'm
wonderful, my life is perfect.

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Thank you so much.
I'm fine as I am, and I thinkso much transformation, healing
let's use that word healing cancome from, really that pure
acceptance of all that is,whether we like it or we don't
like it, and to do our very bestto detach from the story that
we're creating about whatever isgoing on in our lives, and I

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think that is also a very, verypowerful piece.
I'm just backtracking totransformation.
I suppose for me you askedabout that we're creating about
whatever is going on in ourlives, and I think that is also
a very, very powerful piece.
I'm just backtracking totransformation.
I suppose for me you askedabout that with me on my journey
.
For me I really needed totransform, and I recognized this
back in my mid-30s when I had areally big argument with my
best friend.

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At the time I absolutely lostmy temper big time.
I was furious and was reallyscreaming and shouting at this
person, and this is way before Igot on a spiritual journey.
In fact, it was the beginningof my spiritual journey because
I realized something's got tochange.
I cannot continue in this wayany longer, and so I think, like

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with what happened with me,with a lot of people there can
be a tipping point and whateverthat is in their life that's not
working for them or it could beanything loss of a job, a
relationship or a health crisis,or, like me, with realizing I
cannot continue with this angerthat's inside of me, and my
anger related to my childhood,my very painful childhood that I

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had not healed from, and I wascarrying a lot of emotional
baggage.
And so for me, I would say Iwanted transformation, and I
wouldn't have said I want tolook a particular way, but I
certainly wanted to feel better.
So for me, the transformationwas to feel better about myself
and to show up differently inthe world, and so I suppose,

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over these 19 years, it is nowof having been on a spiritual
journey, that has been mytransformation.
I used to walk around with agreat, big, heavy black cloud,
dense cloud above my head, likea weight, and I had a very
closed heart.
I found it.
I didn't want to let anybody in, I didn't trust anybody, and

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who I am today is so massivelydifferent from who I was back
then.
So I have experienced truetransformation, and for that I
am extremely grateful.
So that's what I say abouttransformation.
I'm not about the perfect humanbeing.
I'm really about whatever it issomebody is looking for in
their life, what it is perhapsthey're experiencing that they

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don't want to anymore, or whatit is perhaps that they want to
bring in.
But I personally don't focus oncoaching people, working with
people who are after aparticular image in there of who
they want to be and what theywant to achieve.
That doesn't get my juicesgoing at all.
I focus very much on the whatis it that you want to

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experience?
And for those people who aremore kinesthetic or
emotion-based, like how do youwant to feel?
What is it that you want?
What are these qualities thatyou want in your life?
without attaching it to aparticular form,

Susannah Steers (15:02):
It sounds as though for a transformation of
the kind you're talking aboutthere often is sort of a rock
bottom.
People get to a point wherethere is an event like a job
loss or a breakup or a painfulchildhood or those kinds of
experiences.
I'm curious, I don't know howto put this.

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I know sometimes in movement,when I'm working with someone,
you'll show them a differentpathway and they'll sort of
start to move along that lineand then they'll retreat and
then it's like they're kind ofpeering over the wall and seeing
what might be there and they'renot sure they're ready for it
yet.
So they back up and thensometimes they back up and I
don't see them again.
Sometimes they back up and thenthey come back and they take a

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few steps further along the path.
Do you find that that's true inyour work as well?

Rachel Linnett (15:53):
Very often it is , I think, the person who throws
themselves in the deep end andjust goes for it, regardless of
the fear, the terror and thepanic that can arise when you're
facing your inner demons.
Most people, yes the moment thatthey feel change is happening
and the world isn't as it waspreviously, can really fall back

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into the fear mindset and justgo yeah, no, thanks.
No, no, no, no, thank you is onwanting to survive at all costs
, and it doesn't want change, itwants to keep things as they

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are, and so there can often bethis inner battle between part
of you that is like I reallywant to feel better, and then
the ego will play along for alittle while is how I would say.
It's like, yeah, sure, we'llplay along with this ruse, this
idea, but the moment you startto hit up against some serious
change and that can have massiveramifications in our life, so

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relationships can fall away, wemight decide to move country or
any number of things we mightdecide, and so the ego is like,
yeah, that's not happening, no,thanks.
And so it will create some formof resistance, which could show
up in this backing off and yetnot going there.

Susannah Steers (17:13):
Yeah, it's like the angel and the devil on your
shoulder, chatting to eachother.

Rachel Linnett (17:18):
Yeah, but the interesting thing is, a lot of
people make the ego out to bethe enemy and I really I don't
believe in that at all.
It's simply a part of us.
It's a part of us that actuallyhas good intention.
It's trying to protect us andhelp us to survive, and it's a
part of us that actually hasgood intention.
It's trying to protect us andand help us to survive.
And it's often caught up in oldprograms from much younger
versions of ourselves and andoften you can actually give it a

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new job in life.
Instead of like, okay, like ifit's stopping you from moving
forward because it keeps going,yep, not doing that, no, not
doing that, so I can say, okay,what's your, what is it?
That is to be in conversationwith it, which is part of what I
do with clients in session it'slike okay, what, what, what's
going on here?
What does it want to say?
Why is it scared?
And you know, let's, let'scommunicate with it, let's find

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out what it wants and what itdoesn't want and what's going on
here.
And so we get into conversationand it's really interesting
that the person is having thisconversation.
I throw in the old questions,sort of guide, but it's
wonderful how theseconversations just begin and
then blossom, and then we'll getto a place where it will often
settle down and be like, oh okay, but it will want another job.

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So we can say, well, what jobdo you want?
And sometimes, if it's ayounger version of us, it might
be as simple as I just want tohave a bit more fun, I want to
do some painting, for example,or I don't know crochet, and so
it's like all right then.
But we have to follow throughwith those things.
We don't just go yeah, sure,and then forget all about it,
because it will kind of creepback in.

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So it's interesting thatconversations we can have within
ourselves between thesedifferent aspects of who we are.

Susannah Steers (18:51):
And is that how your artwork like?
You're a painter.
Is that how you came to paint,or have you always painted?

Rachel Linnett (18:59):
I painted as a child.
I used to love art and thenwhen I was in secondary school
which in the UK is up to 16years of age my art teachers
used to say that I was terrible,that was a lost cause.
Oh, it's funny now, but at thetime I was like I didn't bother
me.
At the time I was like, okay, Ijust kind of gave up, which,
sadly, is what a lot of peopledo.

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When they're told they're notreally good at something, they
just give up on it really.
So I put it away for a whileand in my 20s I started to do
watercolor painting.
Something deep inside was justnudging me.
It wanted to be creative.
So I did some watercolorlessons and then went on to
acrylic and then onto oil.
And it's so interesting that youasked this, because the big

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resurgence for my creativity,and my painting in particular,
came after I'd moved to Americain 2006, when I had a really big
dark night of the soul movingto America no offense to any
Americans who are listening tothis.
There were lots of reasons whythat happened and that's when I
really moved into getting intopainting again and I found that

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as I was painting I wasreleasing emotionally.
I would paint for a while andthe emotions would just bubble
up so strongly that I would havetears pouring down my face and
really experiencing this deep,deep, deep, deep, deep release
of inner pain.
And so that really got meinterested.

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And the more I painted, thebetter I got at it and I got
excited by that and decided Iwanted to go big with my
canvases.
And so I learned all about oilpainting, because with that,
with those particular paints,it's much easier to go to a very
big size.
So, yeah, and it just sort ofdeveloped from there.
But really this painting hasbeen an enormous part of my

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healing journey and mytransformation and it also
enabled the sensual passion atme to come forth.
That I'd kind of locked in thebasement as, yeah, don't go
there, she's wild, she's crazy.
Let's just let's keep her outof the scene.
I'm an adult now.
She's dangerous, she's prettywild.
You've got two kids and I'mmarried over 30.

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It was sort of like, yeah,that's not happening.
And so she started to come backonline and that has been
amazing, as more of me has comeback.
It's more of a unification,more of a coming together rather
than splitting off parts of mypsyche.

Susannah Steers (21:27):
Do you think that creativity is often a
doorway to rediscovering thatinner wisdom?

Rachel Linnett (21:34):
Absolutely.
Definitely.

Susannah Steers (21:36):
And if I were to ask you what does inner
wisdom mean for you?
What is that?

Rachel Linnett (21:45):
Inner wisdom.
So for me, I think at its core,that really means connecting
with who you are at a muchdeeper level than your conscious
mind, as I previously describedas the egoic self of it is an

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aspect of the divine, thecollective consciousness.
So it's really hard to actuallygive it an exact definition per
se, but for me I take that assomething which is not my mind
thinking this is a good idea,that's a good idea.
Oh, don't go there.
Don't go there.
When I really center down intothe heart and make this
connection, I find that I'mgetting inspiration that just
sort of pops into my mind.
I'm getting insights.
If I have something big anddifficult going on in my life, I

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ask questions about that andhave a very open sense of
waiting to see what comes to merather than me going looking for
it.
So I think that's how Idescribe inner wisdom.
It's something that is oftennot even logical, and so what

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might come?
My logical brain goes are youkidding me?
I'm not going to do that.
That's insane.
And so that stopped me doing alot of things in years gone.
But then I really realized that, even if it doesn't make sense
to our logical mind, if wefollow that nudge, whatever it
is like.
Go to the supermarket, likeright now.
You find that you meet somebodyincredible.

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You just have a shortconnection, a conversation, or
who knows.
Or you just happen to bump intosomebody who you a really
lovely friend and you have a hug, or who knows?
Or you just happen to bump intosomebody, a really lovely
friend, and you have a hug andyou're like that's so nice,
that's made my day.
We just never know why we getsent to these sort of nudges, as
it were, to act, to do things,go places.
So I kind of take that as myinner wisdom and I think that

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I've learned over the yearspractice, the art, let's put it
that way of really sensing whenit's coming from the mind or
when it really truly issomething much deeper, whether
it's our intuition, we mightcall it, or this inner wisdom,
all the same.
Also, I walk clients throughthat process so that they learn
how to do that and by repeatingthat they become more and more

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comfortable with that, begin totrust it so much more.
And so now I can be anywhere.
I'm on my bike, I can be likeam I going to go left, am I
going to go right?
And they check in.
Am I going to have this tea oram I going to have this herbal
tea?
I use it all of the time.
It just becomes a naturalnavigation tool.

Susannah Steers (24:29):
It's amazing.
It's funny how nonlinear it istoo, and maybe that's why it's
tricky to talk to people aboutsometimes, because it's not a
pathway that goes directly fromA to B to C, in my experience
anyway.
Maybe this isn't everyone'sexperience, but there's lots of
meandering along the way as youfollow those nudges and it might

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not take you where you thinkyou're going.
It may take you in an entirelydifferent direction.
I just find that interesting,especially when I'm working with
people and again, my explicitwork is not healing journeys,
we're working with bodies andthere might be healing journeys
along that pathway.
But to hear when people getfrustrated when it doesn't go to

(25:13):
the next place that theythought it was going to go, how
do you talk to people about that?

Rachel Linnett (25:19):
It is a very big piece of the world of
transformation.
Let me put it that way, becauseI found with my own personal
experience, and that withclients, is that we get nudged
to to make a decision to dosomething and it and in our mind
, something goes horribly wrong.
We're, we're guided to go andwork with a hire, a particular

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person, right, and we're likecannot believe the showering of
awful things that are takingplace.
And then then that leads on tome shouting at the universe what
were you thinking, did it?
You're like what the heck?
Is this all really serious?
Right now, because I thinkthere can be.

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Of course, we want everythingto go smoothly.
We want life to be lovely allthe time.
Yeah, no bumps, thanks verymuch.
But when we ask for that inlife, there's a very limited
chance that true evolution isgoing to take place.
Now, a lot of people are maybenot even interested in evolution
.
I'm all about evolution, I'mall about moving through old
stuff from this lifetime, otherlifetimes, whatever I go for it.

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And so I think that whathappens when things are not
going our way and we feel like,oh my God, I could have sworn.
This is what my intuition wassaying.
I've made this decision.
It's all going horribly wrong.
What is this all about that?
Actually, this is where the mostincredible growth and change
and evolution comes from,because events like that will
show us what's unresolved withinus.

(26:46):
Limiting beliefs, for example,about it might be a theme of
unlovability or unworthiness orsomething like, ah, or
everything always goes wrong inmy life, belief like, okay, so
within the darkness, the trickytimes, it's like what?
What is this showing me?
What is this really about?
Because it's never about theperson, the thing, it's like.

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What's the underlying themehere?
And then, with that recognitionit, it's really easy to sort of
be able to begin to be inrelationship with that energy,
because everything has its ownenergy field to effect change.
So, yeah, I think that's myanswer.
We get a nudge and it works outbeautifully.
Yesterday I was nudged to go toSherwood Island, near me at the

(27:29):
beach, go for a walk, and I didmeet an incredible person, the
real soul sister.
It was amazing, it's wonderful.
And then other times I get a,you know, I get a nudge and
things go crashing down allaround me.
But I, you know, some of ushave signed up for a lot of
evolution in this lifetime, andI seem to be one of those people
.

Susannah Steers (27:48):
We're learning all the way right.
We're learning If we're open toit.
We're learning from whateverthat, whether it's a fabulous
experience or a not so fabulousone.
You sort of endure the not sofabulous stuff and figure out
how to move forward from it.
You know, change is oneabsolute constant in our lives.

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We can't get away from it.
We can acknowledge it andaccept it and try and work to
navigate it, or we can try andhold it back and in my
experience then it sort of hitsme later like a freight train in
one way or another, and I lovethat.
You've said that everychallenge is an opportunity for
personal evolution.
That really resonates for meand it lands a whole lot more

(28:31):
softly and makes a whole lotmore sense than that.
What doesn't kill you makes youstronger idea.

Rachel Linnett (28:38):
Oh yeah, I totally agree with you.
The number of people who willsay you have the rough knocks in
life, it's like I'll make youstronger.
It's like no, no, no, that forme I feel that that is an
attempt of the ego to build astronger fort around your heart,
like I'm just going to bestronger when actually, for me,
I sense that it's the opposite.

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It's actually open to it all,be vulnerable, meet it, meet it
all and experience the totalityof life, because it runs from
the whole range, from thesublime to the absolutely truly
horrific that can happen.
And my belief is that we'rehere to experience all of that
and, of course, we prefer thelovely stuff.

(29:19):
But there are gems in all ofthe difficult things that happen
in our lives and I thinksometimes we can put pressure on
ourselves about that too, tosort of think what's the gem?
Come on, come on pressure onourselves about that too to sort
of think what's the gem?
Come on, come on Some of thesethings.
I'm thinking it will all thenjust sort itself out.
Once we've got the gem, okay,let's move on.
Like we're on some sort of gameboard or something right?

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It's like, okay, hop over thatlittle challenge onwards.
And so sometimes it can takepeople a really long time to get
to that gem, especially if theyare not accepting what's taking
place and being in the victimmentality rather than the whole
this is what has happened andjust letting go of the thoughts

(30:04):
and like, okay, show me what isthis about, what is the gem in
this?
For me and very often it can bethings about just great.
You know, whether it's greaterself-awareness or it's an
opportunity, as I was sayingearlier, to love ourselves more.
You know, it can be literallyanything, but that's my take on
that.

Susannah Steers (30:23):
Yeah, Well, and a lot of times I think we don't
see the gems in front of us.
We see them in hindsight.
You know it's after you'veexperienced it.
You've felt the feels.
I'm not an expert, but it seemsin my life.
That's how I see those gems.
As I've moved forward invarious ways, I've done my best
to feel what I needed to feel,and a lot of the time in my life

(30:46):
I was one of those just chargedthrough.
I can get through this and lotsof armoring and all of that.
But I find that I'm getting alittle better at it now, but a
lot of the time I'm seeing whatthe gems were in hindsight and
understanding them differentlygoing forward.
yeah

(31:07):
f someone is experiencing bigpersonal changes or transition
in their lives, what are some ofthe most impactful ways that
people can navigate those?

Rachel Linnett (31:25):
Well, the number one thing that always comes to
my mind, which might sound supersimple but is conscious
breathing patterns and obviously, being in the world of Pilates
as you are, I know you'llprobably have a lot to say about
breathing.
It is so powerful at calming usdown and encouraging the body
to enter into theparasympathetic nervous system

(31:45):
rather than the sympathetic outof the stress fight or flight
and into the relaxation responseand I think, hands down in the
moment.
That is extremely powerful.
And I particularly love the 4-8pattern for that which is
breathing in through your nosefor a count of four and out your
mouth for a count of eight.

(32:06):
So that is one of them.
And I think that there are othertools that people can learn
really simply and quickly andeasily things like tapping
emotional freedom technique.
There's loads of information onthat on the Internet.
You don't have to go and see atapping person for that.
So I think there are differenttools and I think the most

(32:26):
important thing actually is toreally see what resonates with
you individually Because, as Iwas saying earlier, there isn't
a one size fits all.
Or you must do this or you mustdo that.
Except breathing is theexception.
For that I really believe I'msold on this breathing stuff.

Susannah Steers (32:43):
I really am, I'm with you 100% on that one.
I have another question for youbecause I like to look at the
scales of things.
We were talking about thefractal nature of things.
So much we see and experiencearound us and it feels to me
that around the world right nowwe are experiencing a real
global time of transition.

(33:04):
Now I'm not interested ingiving fuel to the fires of
discord in this conversation,but I'm wondering if you have
any ideas now about how we couldnavigate these challenging
times, maybe on a personal level, and does that scale up to
communities, societies, nations?
I mean, maybe the whole worldjust has to take a deep breath.

Rachel Linnett (33:28):
Yeah, I think that obviously I have been
giving this a lot of thought tooof late, and what I find is
very helpful for me again, Icannot speak for anybody else
other than myself in this isnoticing what my response is, as

(33:50):
I am, whether it's reading thenews or hearing things from
somebody else.
What is that creating in me,which could range from panic to
terror to who knows right Allsorts of feelings that can come
up and to simply meet thatwithin myself, it's like oh okay
, because if we look at it asit's just a trigger, meaning
everything, the events that aretaking place in the world, I
believe that we have our ownpersonal responsibilities to

(34:12):
ourselves.
I'm looking after our innerenvironment, and that's actually
not like somebody mightperceive that as being a very
selfish thing, like well, aslong as I'm, fine, so everybody
else?
I don't mean that.
But actually change happenswhen we meet everything inside
of us, and by that I reallysimply mean kind of it's not
pushing anything away, notsaying that over there, that's
wrong, that is and when we canhave a really radically honest

(34:35):
conversation with ourselves andsay where is that in me?
And I'm not talking about theactual actions, of what taking
place, because most people go.
Of course I'm not doing that, Idon't do that, I don't but
where the energetic threadexists in all of us, or we would
not be responding to it in thatway if it didn't.
So when we have that radicalhonesty and we just be with it,
sit with it like okay, and letgo of any stories about that and

(35:00):
really just be present withourselves, the totality of all
of who we are.
As we do that, I believe Isense that the heart expands and
as we do that, our vibrationrises and that is what we are
sending out into the world.
That's what we are radiatingout into all the people that we
meet, and so I'm really feelvery strongly about spreading

(35:25):
love in the world.
I'm on a mission to be spreadinglove in the world.
That's what my book is about,that's coming out, and so for me
, when I'm out and about, I willstop and have a conversation
with somebody.
I look people in the eyes and Iabout.
I will stop and have aconversation with somebody.
I look people in the eyes and Iask them how they are and have
genuine conversations, notbecause I feel like I'm a good
citizen, I'm spiritual, I needto be doing.
I like none of that.

(35:45):
But because I want to connectwith this human being and
looking them in the eyes, havingthis moment, and if somebody
looks like they're having areally rough day, I use this
sort of a concept like a bathbomb, like an absolutely
deliciously scented bath bombyou would pop in the bath to
have a lovely relaxing time.
I call them love bombs, so thatjust want you to know.
It's not an aggressive kind ofbomb.

(36:05):
It's like a bath bomb, aneffervescence that I will pop
into people.
I'll just be out and aboutsomeone looking like they're
having the worst day or they'reshouting at somebody in the bank
, you know, or whatever it is,and I have a moment.
Instead of like oh, instead ofjudging or trying to go, no, not
me, I'm like, okay, it is whatit is, and kind of send some
lovely energy their way in formsof like a little bath bomb,

(36:27):
dropping it into them.
So I think we all, we all havea role to play because with with
these events that are takingplace globally, it can make us
very fearful and make us want toretreat further within either
our tiny family clan or withinourselves or both, and actually
there's a real calling to do theabsolute opposite to that, to

(36:48):
really come home to who we arein ourselves, to meet these
energies that exist within us,and as we begin to release and
release more of these energies,really, an emotion is just
energy that changes the way wepresent in the world.
It just changes who we are, andI feel it's really important to

(37:09):
then be sharing that with theworld.

Susannah Steers (37:12):
Yeah, I have a sense that as we show up more as
ourselves and with thatfullness of who we are, and then
we do the work that is ours todo.
I'm not a politician, I'm not adiplomat.
That's not my work but there iswork that I can do, as you say,
by showing up fully and in anon-judgmental way and doing as

(37:36):
much as we can to shower loveand goodness and connection to
the world.
That's sort of how I look atthat.

Rachel Linnett (37:45):
Yeah, yeah, I absolutely agree with you.
And I think the other thing isthere is also a calling to
really connect with ourselves,because I think it's a bit of an
epidemic going on at the momentof looking outside of self to
experts, supposed experts, ortheir right, the authority,
their right, this is what theyknow that, and whether it's also
on the level of going to anintuitive and asking them what

(38:07):
do you think?
What's this?
You tell me Everything seems tobe geared towards looking
outside of self instead ofreally, really.
This is interesting.
It brings us to a full circleof what you mentioned at the
beginning, which is that really,it's all within us, but our
society has us believe otherwise.
No, it's me, hey, I'm the expert, come out, come and ask me, and

(38:29):
so, really, again, there isalso an invitation to really
come home to oneself as you are,exactly as you are, with all
aspects of who you are, and themore that we do that, and
building this connection withinourselves.
Again, interestingly, itdoesn't create a sort of selfish
person who's like well, I'm inhere and I'm fine, thank you

(38:50):
very much.
It naturally, it naturallymigrates out of us.
It goes everywhere we go andpeople, people are like well, I
don't know what she's got, butthat's really nice because we're
glowing, we're truly radiating,and so I think, as well, that's
a really is coming up.
I feel to be a challenge for alot of people to choose to rise

(39:11):
to or not.

Susannah Steers (39:12):
It's down to the individual.
I think this is a perfect segueinto your book.
You've just written your firstbook it's about to be released
entitled Droplets of Love theArt of Loving Yourself into
Freedom.
Tell us about the book.
What inspired you?
I can't wait to hear more.

Rachel Linnett (39:31):
Thank you.
So really, it's an inspiringand an uplifting guide about
transforming unworthiness,unlovability and self-doubt into
acceptance something that we'vebeen talking about into full
acceptance and into peopleloving themselves is really what

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it's about, and so it takes theform of compelling personal
stories from my life, as well asinsights and wisdom that I've
gained from 19 years of being onthis healing journey.
And also thrown in are somereally simple, effective tools
that people can use to help themto just thrive a bit more.

(40:14):
Let's put it that way Let thegoal be thriving a bit more.

Susannah Steers (40:17):
Where can people find it?
Can they find it at thebookstore on your website?
Where do they look for it?

Rachel Linnett (40:24):
It's available on Amazon in all different
countries, and it's alsoavailable in bookstores through
Barnes Noble, and there's a linkon my website as well that will
ping people out to places thatthey can buy that.
So that's where it is available.
It's also available in ebookformat for those people who love
to read electronically, as wellas in paperback.

Susannah Steers (40:46):
Fantastic.
Well, I will make sure you canfind Rachel Linnett at her
website, rachellinnett.
com, and on YouTube and LinkedInand so many other places, and
I'll make sure to put links inthe show notes so that people
can find them after the fact.
I want to thank you forspending some time with me today

(41:07):
.
It's been an absolute pleasure.

Rachel Linnett (41:11):
Thank you so much.
I've really enjoyed our ourconversation.
I think we covered a lot ofground there, Susannah I think
we did it was really wonderfultake care.

Susannah Steers (41:21):
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