Creepy Rodger Dodger's New Year's Eve Extravaganza

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What a start.
Feds, we got them.
Boys, we got them.
Welcome.
Welcome to Hello Alphabet Agencies.
This is the second episode.
It's also a special episode.
It is.
It's the end of the year.
Might be the last New Year we ever experience.
Yep, final year.
We're about to head into the final year.
Yeah.

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That's crazy.
There's only one more year left.
Dude, ah, truly.
There might be.
Truly, it's feeling like it.
The vibes are odd.
They're so great.
Happy last New Year to everyone.
Thanks for joining us.
I'm so stoked that we found each other for our last year on Earth.
Everyone's last year.
It's going to be awesome.
No, we're going to go out with a bang.

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Yeah.
We're going to yap.
Yap through 2024.
Just real quick, just want to say that I love Quick Trip Coffee.
Yeah, I do too.
This is not...
You know, I generally didn't really like Starbucks as it is, but I did get Starbucks pretty frequently
back in the day.
And you know, we're not really doing that anymore.
No, we've learned.

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We have since become awake.
Yeah, no, but the Quick Trip, what I'm saying, it's like $2 and they have more options than
Starbucks.
I'm not even kidding.
All the pumps you need, free.
I don't know, we did some weight-based.
It doesn't even cost money.
It's just like two bucks.
Especially for a gas station, I don't know, correct us if we're wrong, but from my little
bit of research, because now when we're like, oh, I really like this place, we're like,

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okay, well, let's look into who owns it.
I don't know.
I can't not do that now.
And it's like family owned, still based in Wisconsin.
Yeah, it's like a pretty big business.
It feels like the biggest a business should be.
They were like one of the best employers in Wisconsin at some point.
I don't know.
So we feel good about buying Quick Trip coffee right now while we're here.
Let's go.

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And Quick Trip, we will take a sponsorship, but if you do not, if you do not within 30
days, we will destroy you.
That's a fact.
No, just kidding.
We're going to be on the road a lot.
We're going straight to BP, Roger.
Yeah, no.
We're going to be on the road a lot.
So Quick Trip, we love you.
Hit us up.
Big heart to Quick Trip.

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But yeah, no, Roger.
Wrapping up 2023, there's a lot of Roger to look back on.
Yeah.
So this is, like I said, this is going to be a little special episode.
We are going to go through a lot, like not all of them, but many of the Roger Clay TikToks
from the year.
I think that, I don't know if you don't know a whole lot about this guy, Roger Clay, he

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was a TikTok, he did karaoke on TikTok and groomed kids.
Allegedly.
In our opinion, in our opinion.
Did a lot of really other fucked up shit.
And we're going to go through our journey with Roger because in my opinion and probably

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in Nicole's opinion, we were the reason why Roger is no longer grooming kids allegedly
on TikTok and Discord.
So yeah, I think at a minimum, we did a lot of work to ensure that he could not come online
without being absolutely clowned on every time.

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And in doing that, it seems that he did officially leave TikTok and Instagram.
We don't know if he's lurking in the shadows on burners.
I can't control that.
But at a minimum, you know, he's not able to use that three million follower platform
to do gross things anymore.
Stock money too.

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Yeah.
Flying all over the globe.
Fed flag.
Yeah, so.
Three million followers.
Wait, let's hit it.
Let's go guys.
We got a jingle for it now.
Fed Flags.
So yeah, Roger Clay.
And Roger led us to the feds actually.
Roger did lead us to the feds.
We're not fans.

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You know that.
Yeah, before we go into all of the horrible things that Roger's done, before we get into
that, he has done a great thing and that is that he brought us together.
He brought me, Dante and Nicole together because I saw him months ago or a year ago or whatever.
And I was like, what's up with this guy?

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And then forgot about it for like four months.
And then I came across Dante and Nicole's videos and I was like, finally someone found
the answers.
And that's what made me honestly realize that like no one is doing this research.
No one's doing this journalism.
So it's like either we do it or no one does it.
So yeah.
And I mean, you'll see as we go through some of the tech talks, like I was getting shit

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on at the beginning.
Like I don't know why I kept pushing through.
I'm glad I did.
But like everything was stacked against us.
Like it was, it felt like coordinated harassment efforts and I won't call it that, but there
were multiple attempts to discredit me, slander my name.
Come on, Austin.

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I mean, you know, that was not nice.
It was pretty obvious what was happening at certain points, but I think we just got so
stubborn because we knew like that was like validation for us where it was like, why do
they care so much about what we're talking about?
And then, you know, kept finding things.
You'll see as we kind of click through, but like the journey is very interesting.
That's why it'll be fun.

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I haven't seen a lot of these tech talks.
No, I haven't seen them in a long time.
I like saw them when I was putting this together for like, I would always pause it because
I didn't want to spoil it.
But so like, I know what's on the list, but I haven't, I haven't really watched a lot
of these in a long time.
And an interesting thing here, I don't want to get too much on a tangent, but we watched
there's a good video essay.
I told you about it before the show.
I forget what it's called.

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But it's like the first long form one that kind of covers all the Roger stuff as like
the newest creep.
Yup.
Tick Tock.
Who's it by?
It's by Hi, I'm wonder.
Hi I'm wonder.
If you're here in this, we'd love to have you on the Hello Alphabet agencies.
Yeah, I'd love to hear about how you figured out about it and like your journey of going

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down the rabbit hole.
Because he did a great job of the whole beginning part kind of like actually explaining some
of the intricacies.
Yeah, he's like the first person I've seen, you kind of said it, he's like the first person
that I've seen online who's like properly done their homework, you know, and like actually
bothered to understand the lore.
Look beyond the obvious.
Yeah, and there was a part of his video that really like, I was like, oh, wait a second,

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this is all this like going back is kind of important.
Because basically what happened is there were text messages in the video from like right
at the beginning of all the Roger stuff.
And at the time, he was talking about Luminar and Austin Russell and like where he worked.
And I don't know if he's talking about Austin Russell, but he was talking about Luminar
and his boss, right?
So I assume his boss is Austin Russell.
And now it's like, oh my gosh, wait, okay.

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So he was talking about like, now that we know the significance of like his family and
like all this other stuff, right?
Like now these old text messages saying that he told his boss about Olivia, like the 19
year old girl.
And his outlaw father?
What does that mean?
It all has like completely new meaning and new context, right?

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Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah.
Dude, this story is so juicy.
I am so pumped.
It is.
And Nicole, so the first TikTok that we're gonna watch is your video and just give like
a one sentence explanation of why you made this TikTok.
I made this TikTok because I was unemployed, had a lot of opinions, saw something creepy

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that I wasn't a fan of and I just had opinions.
I was like, this is not, whatever's going on here is making me really uneasy.
And that was that.
I was like, I fed flags, sauce alert.
I don't know.
Something's going on.
Did this all work?
Did this work?

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Can you see that?
Yeah.
Should I make it bigger?
Yeah, it looks good to me.
Oh, not that one.
That looks fine.
Does it not get bigger?
It's okay.
That's what she said.
Sorry.
It changes size.
Okay.
So that's actually probably the best size.
That's what she said.

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So I'm curious how this is going to look.
Sorry.
Are we going to both be off screen like that?
If so, that's really funny.
No, I think-
Well, the full recording is full screen.
Yeah.
Oh yeah, that's right.
The software is cool.
Yeah.
No, this is smarter because I think that you'll be able to upload better.
Okay, cool.
It seems like better quality than last time, you know?

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Yeah, absolutely.
We're trying.
We're behind the-
Up and up.
This podcast is only going to get better every week.
Let's go guys.
I promise.
That's the goal.
Okay, first TikTok.
This is the first TikTok.
Nicole had three followers when she made it.
She was talking shit.
Oh yeah, yeah.
This is another tidbit.
So this was on August 8th, 2023.
Yes, I did have like, I think I had six followers and one of them was my personal, one of them

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was you, and one of them was your sister, Dante.
So I did not have a platform.
I was yapping because I was like, this is weird.
I don't know.
I did not think this was going to get traction at all.
And like, you'll be able to tell throughout it as, or throughout the saga, as Roger became

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aware of who I was, that the low follower count was a big reason why he was non-intimidated
at first.
He really thought he could just squash me because I had no platform whatsoever.
And little did he know, I would be here yapping to- we have like 150 downloads of our first
episode so far.

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So thank you to everyone.
Let's go.
I'm here and I'm yapping about Roger because he did not get me down.
Dude, a guy messaged from Egypt and I think he also privately messaged me and he sent
me a video that I just put, I like opened.
I was like, I'll watch this later.
I watched the first like two minutes about the CIA and like education and stuff.

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And I went and watched the entire thing.
I went for a walk, watched the entire thing and I just made a video and uploaded it right
before we did this about it.
Like propaganda and stuff and the military industry or military entertainment complex,
you know, stuff like that.
But anyway-
That's awesome.
No, it's so awesome.
Thank you guys.
This is really cool.

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It's like 150 people next week.
It's going to be 300 and we're just going to keep building.
And we're going to tell everyone about all this crazy stuff that is ruining all of our
lives and then we're all going to know about it.
And then we're all going to be able to do something about it because half of the battle
is just getting everyone to be educated, to understand that this stuff is not crazy.

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You know, it's like there's really a rogue agency that is like controlling every aspect
of our lives and like down to our media.
Allegedly.
I mean, no one would say that they do it.
I know.
Oh, dropped something.
But allegedly for sure.
And it's satire.
Yeah.
I think that in a similar vein plays into this Roger saga because throughout it, we

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had to do so much education.
I feel like that was, I literally had to educate because a lot of his fans were children.
That was part of the uphill battle was I was like, I had to spell out why this was not
okay from a 26 year old's perspective, looking at the situation and also like why the different

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responses were happening as they were because it, like I said, it's a similar vein of like
propaganda.
Like they were planned narratives that they were trying to put out to dispel the things
that we were saying and sharing.
And so it was like a weird, very good practice for starting to talk about like alphabet agencies.
And like I said, this led us to the FBI.

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We ended up at the FBI per the request of an FBI agent that opened the initial case
into Roger to bring our giant like 80 page document.
Wait, did we ever say why what happened with Roger initially?
Did you say that?
Like why you said, no, well, I think this video, the first, the first TikTok is going
to sum it up.

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Yeah.
Okay.
Can we watch that now?
Yeah, dude, I just want to say you guys are my heroes and you guys are fucking awesome
and everyone, if you want, if you want to know what's going on, you should go investigate
it like them.
They're not journalists.
No, they're just curious people.
Self ordained journalist, go investigate the local police department, go stir shit up,

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go listen to like Luna shark, the murder, murder, murders podcast.
Cause they're just like independent journalists who are stirring up mega shit.
You know, like that is what is going to save us.
Yeah.
If something gives you a bad vibe, like what happened here, I mean, you'll see in this
TikTok, we are going to watch it now.
It was just a bad vibe.

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I can, yeah, there's 68 TikToks.
Oh yeah.
There's no way we're going to get to all of them.
But anyway, if you get a bad vibe, yap about it.
Look into it.
I'm going to, I'm going to roll.
All right.
This is the way this holds true.
I'm going to limit us to a minute reaction per TikTok.
Okay.
We'll try our best.
Let's go.
Knock, knock, knock it on.
Okay.
I'm going to say that he is dating this 19 year old.

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She has come into his comment section and said that that is not the case, but here's
why I still have a huge issue with this.
I was 19 once I saw this kind of attention from a man with power and older man with power
is flattery as a way for me to get more attention.
So I don't blame her for thinking this is harmless, but I also know men and I know old

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men and I hate to say it, but a 58 year old man entertaining a 19 year old for funsies
for a collab.
That's not, that's not what's happening.
That's simply not what's happening.
He can say that's what's happening, but it's not.
He knows what he's doing.

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It's weird.
It's really creepy and I'm grossed out by it.
So yeah, that was the first Tik Tok.
Like he said, I mean, yeah, that was like me really just like off the dome reacting about
the situation.
Cause I had just like gone through the videos on his page that he posted from the live the

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night before of him and this girl singing together.
And I was like, he is really being bold with this man.
Cause then he started like reposting those videos and then posted the thing on Instagram.
And like lied about her age, started saying she was like 21 and a half and she's 19.

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Like started doing all this weird stuff then that I was like, okay, now I'm locking in.
Cause at first I was like thinking from the perspective of I'm dating too, where I was
like that would be weird too.
And I wouldn't fault her because there's a huge power imbalance at play.
But like, yeah, I was like, I don't, even if it's like full, even if what's going on

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right now is fully consensual and like no one is uncomfortable in as far as them two,
I still think it's weird because I'm seeing a man with a big platform abuse that and use
it to like prey on young girls.
And so that was kind of like, yeah, the point I was coming from there.
And then yeah, I had no idea that that was just going to spiral into, it led us to making

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these Peter Thiel shirts, you know, led us all the way to Peter Thiel.
I guess I've been sharing this Google.
I think you could just, yeah.
I'm not an 80 year old.
This one, you got to click the sound thing.
Yep.
So yeah, did you want to intro this one?
Yeah.

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I'm curious what happens if I go, I'm not going to go full screen.
It's not worth the risk now.
So this one is, is in my opinion, the funniest clip of all the Roger of all, of all the stuff
that happened with Roger.
This is the funniest one.
He sorry.
It's so this is just Roger at the airport because he's going live at the airport.

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About a 58 year old man on Tik Tok live at the airport talking out loud, like deflecting
from like allegations in the airport.
Just being like, I did not do, I did no such thing.
I was just secondhand embarrassment, but also one of those is seven seconds.
This has one of my favorite soundbites.

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Yep.
And here it is.
I'm not an 80 year old.
And singing is not a crime.
And then immediately blocked.
He said that banger line and then blocked.
I think that might've been going to screen recording.
So did you guys just keep making burners?
Is that, is that how?

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Well, we weren't in the burner phase yet.
No, this was early on.
That's later on.
Yeah.
So I think that's when we started to get blocked from the line.
And what was his follower count right now?
Three million.
Dude, how?
That's a fed flag.
That's a fed flag.
How?
Singing is not a crime.
Dude, we're going to have such a great library.

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Right?
What's the next one?
This was, this is Roger.
This is when Roger, so the girl that he was in the hotel room with, so he goes on to TikTok
live and this was on, oh, we should probably start with dates.
So the last two were on August 8th of this year, so 2023, August 8th and August 9th.

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And then this one is on, this happened on August 10th and this was Nicole posting it
because I was at a funeral.
So that's kind of why Nicole decided to start posting.
I think if Dante hadn't been out of town that weekend, I probably would have just talked
her out of it.
I probably should have been like, don't let it like.
And that's why we should let women cook and listen to women because there was something

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you were so upset.
You were so upset and I was just like, well, it's not worth being upset about.
I was getting dunked on.
Every comment was just like shitting on me.
And I was like, guys, how are you not seeing that this is weird and he's lying to you?
And then he's sending you after me and telling you that like I'm the problem.
Anyway.
Dude, that's what like started me on my TikTok journey.

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I think getting really focused on it was, I commented on tall girls video once and she
like belittled me for saying that we got to look for someone else other than Joe Biden.
And at first I was like horrified because it was like 500 people like you're an idiot.
You're stupid.
Yeah.
And then Lisa was like, no, you I made like a video to snap back at her.

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And I was like, no, this is too embarrassing.
I can't do this.
I can't put myself out there like that.
And Lisa was like, no, post that video.
That's awesome.
And I was like, all right.
OK.
And then I started getting really sassy and things have been good since.
So this is Roger deflecting Roger, a 58 year old man deflecting about a 19 year old girl.

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Yeah.
Who he just sexually harassed and slash assaulted in a hotel room.
I wouldn't do him, sweetheart, if I didn't like him.
To me, it's great.
You'll notice that menace.
I did explain this.

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No copyright.
Lana Del Rey.
If you heard her voice, I did hear.
Avoid copyright.
Oh yeah, keep talking.
Avoiding copyright.
Yeah.
That actually was something I reported him for at some point.
Oh, we did report him for copyright a lot.

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Just to see if that would help take him down.
If you're listening, Nicole is on Roger Clay's TikTok live.
It's screen recording and she is furiously typing many things into the comments, which
was which was a thing that we did.
And then I got blocked again.
Yeah.
Yeah.

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There were many there's many screen recordings out there of us just being absolute menaces.
And so this is one we're not going to watch the whole thing.
But this is fame funker.
It's a song I never heard of it.
I don't know.
Roger decided to sing this about reminding you.
Mind you, like this is I'm going to remind everybody that Roger is 58.
He's a 58 year old man with a child who's older than this girl.

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And his kids not even that old.
His kids like 20.
20.
Yeah.
And so it's weird when there's this girl who's 19 years old and he's now going to post this
song on August 13th.
So it's been three days since he deflected.
And so this is not comprehensive.
You're making TikToks this whole time.
These are just some good ones.
And this is Roger singing fame funker.
So this was yeah.

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Peak, you know, starting to get some heat, starting to get some heat.
And this was his response.
Blood sucker fame funker.
Go ahead.
Get at me.
What do they make dreams for?
When you got them jeans on?

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What do we need steam for?
You the hottest bitch in this place.
Let's go girls.
Okay, yeah.
So we'll cut it there.
It's a lot of that.
It's a lot of that.
It's like dancing alone in a hotel.

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Like very petty.
Getting all the kids to come.
Is that what's going on?
Yep.
Yeah.
And oh, that was when he started to because that was all on his Instagram.
So that was him trying to like kick up his Instagram presence a little bit more because
most of the heat was on TikTok.
Yeah, Instagram didn't really know about it.
No Instagram.
His account just got deleted slash like he deleted it slash Instagram just like.

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And Instagram is better with being able to like block someone in their entirety because
he blocked me and any other accounts I created.
So I could not see his stuff.
But Dante, I think you remained unblocked for a while.
I was never blocked.
He deleted his account.
That is.
Because I was.
Well, no.
The thing is, I was so I was subscribed to Roger's like premium Instagram content because

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it was five dollars a month or whatever.
And like, it's very solid.
He literally has or had I don't know.
He had like 50 million dollars at one point.
Dude, they're all like too mad about giving five bucks to him.
They're all like always broke.
Right.
I think all of them are.
I think like Trump has been broke for like 40 years.
I think Rogers broke like being, you know, German.

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And I can I call him a I can call him a Nazi, right?
Yeah, I don't get it.
In our opinion, Roger, it's in our opinion.
We have freedom of speech based on everything I've seen and all the research that we've
done.
Roger's a Nazi.
So go ahead and say it.
And being a Nazi is fucking expensive because they have cheap gaudy taste, which is just

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like gold.
They like want gold on everything and they want to go.
Dude, I mean, you can see it in his houses, his houses.
I mean, before he apparently had to sell the big one when he lost his job allegedly at
Luminar because we did send them some stuff.
But anyway, that's you know, that's what I'm talking about.
I bet he had a house in like West Palm Beach.
It was just so gaudy.

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Look, like it was way too big.
It's like a single divorced guy in this giant house.
And I'm like, I don't know, dude.
Yeah, I think I think you're right.
I think he like blew a lot of his money on stupid shit and had like he was in his mind
like set on keeping this job at Luminar where he gets a bunch of money to do probably nothing,

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in my opinion, and be able to grift on Tik Tok.
Could he possibly have done at Luminar?
What what would he do?
He had that YouTube channel, the Roger Roger.
Well, Roger Clay will show them like it's that's this clips and definitely.
Yeah.
I think the people we're asking, I think are in Tik Toks.

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It's so funny.
I think we're so fun.
But yeah, it's basically it's OK to call Roger a Nazi because if Roger talks to me
and is like, hey, I can prove to you, I can verifiably prove to you that I'm not a Nazi.
I just I know not any of that.
I will.
I will make our retraction.
I'll take it back.
From my point of view, just acknowledged what we were asking him in some of these lives.

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Allegedly.
He acknowledged the family stuff and he said, yes, that is my family.
And if he wasn't a Nazi, I would think someone would say, yes, I know about these things
and I can dab.
Yeah, absolutely.
I'm that Peter Thiel merch.
Peter Thiel is a fed.
If I got to condemn Monday, if I have to condemn Monday, then you need to condemn Nazis.

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Not case.
Yeah.
It's not unrealistic for me to be like kind of sus of you because your descendant directly
descendant of a Nazi, you know, ranking Nazi to a we don't know that someone who very,
very much like we don't know fitted from slave labor, high ranking Nazi.
We don't write a company.

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Yeah, we don't know.
We don't know.
Wait, we don't know what he ran a company.
He's OK.
Maybe he's not like I'm like, that's what I'm saying.
Remember, the government say he's like a high ranking like he was.
He was a he was a they were says beneficiaries.
He owned a car company that worked that made military force.

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But then they fled.
So I can't believe that, you know, I just was trying to make sure you clarified.
Yeah.
Yeah.
If Roger hears this, I hope he nip picks me.
Roger's watching.
Dude, give us details.
This is blocking Roger.
Lock and Roger was born.
Roger sent me emails before I read before we watch this.
I want to point out that my caption is awesome because I believe this more today than I did

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back then.
Roger is going to report.
Yeah, I'll let you do the honors.
I'm sorry.
Roger Clay is going to report this video because I suspect he has a team of social media experts
on the case.
And I truly I'm not going to say that's true, but I believe that to be true.
Well, and we also did get a tip from one of our very credible sources that Roger was using

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like Luminars PR team or like Austin, like Austin and Luminar have a very big PR team
or at least, you know, a very solid coverage plan.
And they were suspicious at the very least of the fact that Roger was probably benefiting
from that as well during this.
And here's blocking that.
No copyright.

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No copyright.
Well, look here.
Didn't you see all my cards, you guys, that they based on my card sleeves?
Oh yeah.
And it was it.
And then I got blocked.
I was like, so and to explain this, this was during this was like peak damage control where

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he was kind of trying to like if he could retain most of his audience and keep the story
out by just like blocking anyone who he thought might be coming in to cause chaos, he was
going to do that.
He was just blocking anyone who did not come in saying, you know, like, oh, I love you,

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Roger.
Yeah.
How's your day been?
You know, is anyone who's a little sus of, he just started blocking and blocking Roger.
Yeah, that was blocking Roger.
So then it kind of keeps going.
What Dante, can you send me that one?
The list that I have is a little bit different.
I'm going through and watching it so I can just have the volume on my end.

(28:37):
Oh, smart.
Sorry.
It was right for the first four.
I can be your hero, baby.
Entertain the people.
Well, how should I say this?
We're not going to cut this out.
There's no chance we're cutting this out.
You know, yo Red Bull, if you also want to sponsor us, let me know.

(29:00):
I have wings and I spread them and I fly and I, I think you should sponsor us cause I really
do, I really do use those wings.
Yeah, we will take your money.
I sent the link in the, in the, in the little chat.
Thank you.
I think you should be able to see it.
I keep forgetting Vulcan's behind us.
He's so snuggled.

(29:21):
Oh yeah.
Show Vulcan.
Did we already show it during the podcast or was that just to me?
I think it was before we started recording.
Vulcan man.
Okay.
We're on Roger.
We have receipts.
Yup.
Okay.
He's sleeping.
We're going to do a one, two, three when you're ready.
Yeah.
This is where I kind of enter in the, into the fray because this is where I started really

(29:46):
talking shit directly to Roger.
Do you want to share the screen?
Yeah.
And so, yeah, I'll share the fucking screen.
We're trying our best.
What?
We're like, just the first time we've done it.
I know.
Sorry.
I'm ready.
It's not sharing tab audio.
It just went rogue.
Oh, you're fine.
We're, we're rogue.
Oh, hold up.
Wait.

(30:06):
I figured out.
This podcast is a little bit messy, but it's professional.
I figured it out.
No, you don't even need to do that anymore.
You're going to hear this.
I promise you.
On God.
On fat.
No way.
Yes.
Don't tell me things that you can't give me.
Don't promise.
Don't make promises.
Regarding the Roger Clay.
You have to, in this, in this software, if you share the whole window, it doesn't share
audio.

(30:27):
It says you have to share a tab.
Well, learning, learning, living, laughing.
They're not telling me.
Okay.
So this was me.
This was the shortest, we got to really start flying through these.
Cause otherwise it's going to be a 17 hour episode, but this is, um, uh, Nicole.
I don't know if I think you had texted Olivia at this point.
Oh yeah.
So we had all these screenshots from Olivia, which was the girl, the 19 year old girl.

(30:50):
By this point she had reached out to Nicole and I start talking shit because we had a
bunch of screenshots.
And she was still, I think this was still before she had said anything.
Yeah.
She hadn't said anything.
We had posted that video that went viral, so she was telling us like, we were getting,
getting like, okays to post stuff, you know, like we were running it all by her and being

(31:10):
like, do you want us to say something?
And like from her perspective at the time, she was very much like, I'm too scared to
say something yet.
And you know, eventually she, she did.
She said some shit.
Yeah.
Cause it's scary.
It's scary going up against an army of robots.
Actually this is like a week in when at this point, like for the entire week, people had

(31:33):
been like thrown in all these different directions by purposefully wrong narratives.
It is just fed flags all around.
Regarding the Roger Clay situation, uh, we have a bunch of screenshots from Olivia and
you know, she basically told us everything that actually happened.

(31:55):
And you know, you can choose not to believe me right now, but there will be a YouTube
video that we're filming tomorrow.
Uh, that kind of goes through everything.
There was never a YouTube video for that.
I had to bet Roger Clay is not going to make true much more money.
So I want to say something funny about this before we do the next one.
Um, that, uh, that clip, I, I filmed that at three 45 in the morning.

(32:23):
So many of these videos were done, but it was, no, this was in, this was on my way back
to Austin from a funeral.
I was, I, I went to, I was in my college town and I went to a coffee shop that's open like
24 hours.
And so I just stayed there all night.
I left my friend's house at like midnight, went to the coffee shop and just stayed up.
And then right before I got back in the rental car to go to the airport, to go back to home,

(32:45):
uh, I made that Tik TOK and it got a lot of views and that's why I looked so tight.
It's like at this point you had just kind of been getting filled in by me.
I was half paying attention, honestly, right?
You're at a funeral.
I was like sending updates being like, don't worry about this right now.
But that girl just called me and told me some crazy shit about Roger.

(33:09):
I think we're right.
This man is scary.
Uh, and little did we know it was still only the beginning.
And so this, I give, I give Roger some advice.
You gotta hit that volume button, baby.
Hey Roger, I know your bots are going to see this in the airport, but I want you to know
that I do not sleep.

(33:32):
I don't sleep.
I got six shots.
I don't get tired.
You're an old man.
You get tired.
I forgot that we just resorted to taunting him.
I love that.
I'm young.
I'm young.
I don't sleep.
I'm young.
I don't have Nazi blood.

(33:53):
I think that kind of came from too.
Cause at that point he started being online at really like weird hours.
And also what had happened at this point is that we had had videos reported in the middle
of the night and like, like it seemed like waiting for us to not be active and then report
things when we could not get them to go back up right away.

(34:13):
Especially when they were like timely updates of like, this just happened.
Someone just sent these screenshots and it would be taken down like overnight.
Like how did these guys get like, do they have like a special version of Tik Tok being
a fed or is it like that they just know that everything you need like robots and they have
like websites set up for this?

(34:34):
Like what is this?
I think they just understand the like, so do you have it?
I have a really good answer.
I, well, I think we have some proof, not proof, I guess, but it's like really close to proof.
So later on we'll talk about rogersrobots.com and that was a website that I think belonged
to Roger or Austin Russell's nephew, the 28 year old billionaire, also known as maybe

(34:57):
Roger's boss.
And that website was basically, so that was like an older website, right?
It was like 2018, 2019 ish.
And that was talking about, yeah, I went to 2017.
And so that was at the time it was talking about movie star planet and Snapchat, which
were like, that was the socials that the kids were on.
And so it seemed like, you know, there was like a guide for how to use it.
So I think that he maybe grew on TikTok because someone wrote a little guide for how to grow

(35:21):
on TikTok and get an audience of young girls.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, I think, I think there was a little bit of a playbook he was following in some former
fashion.
I don't know that he came up with it.
Exactly.
But someone told him to do.
Would it be like a MAGA 3X type of playbook or something?
Absolutely. Well, considering that it does appear that Austin Russell could potentially

(35:44):
allegedly have been a big part of that with Peter Thiel.
Yeah, no, it does feel like right.
Yeah, no, it does feel like it was very.
Feds, feds, feds, feds, feds.
They just got a new contract for like the NIH and whatever.
Dude, it's like they literally, the Casabu again.

(36:05):
Oh, wait.
I don't believe people aren't real.
No pictures, no content.
They never show their face because they're cowards and they aren't real.
And yes,
It's a little TikTok sound at the end.
I love that.
This was, so this was in response to comments made on my girlfriend's videos on Roger's

(36:28):
play.
He was calling me insane because he didn't understand I was doing a bit.
So what had happened is I got, I had been reported so many times.
Like I think I literally at this point had six strikes on my account.
Like I didn't even know that was possible.
I thought it would get deleted at that point.
Six strikes.
And then I was like, my bit the next day was positive content only.

(36:48):
I'm talking in the most positive tone and I am calling this man my best friend.
And it is going to be such a funny bit for me.
And then everyone said she was crazy.
And so she did this.
They didn't understand because I made, yeah, you'll see what I make in here.
And it was so funny.
I make embroidery art.
I have an embroidery machine and this is so funny.
Cause I said, I made this for my favorite creator.

(37:10):
Anyway, play the video.
And the robot, the AI can't tell.
Roger.
Yeah.
Sorry.
Go ahead.
You're good.
You're good.
You're good.
Roger.
Roger.
We're awake.
I slept during the day.
I'm obsessed.
I'm a creep.
I'm a creepy obsessed predator.
And I just couldn't stop talking about you.

(37:34):
So I slept during the day so we can stay up all night and not fully report the news.
We were so, we were going insane in the most fun way.
Cause we really were staying up so late.
Cause he would go live at like 3 AM randomly and we were like, well, I'm on.

(37:57):
Okay.
These are awesome.
I forgot about these.
All I'm going to say is these are texts from Roger, a 58 year old man to Olivia, a 19
year old girl.
And me, Nicole, a 26 year old female with 15 followers.
At the time she had 15.
So yeah.
Oh wait, you're not sharing it.

(38:18):
Oh fuck.
You're right.
Dante, you have a whole playlist of all of this too, right?
I do.
I'm on my Tik Tok.
Cause Dante has 10 K.
Let's go.
Because the internet is, the internet hates women.
That's why both of these boys have 10 K and I don't.
I, dude, honestly, the amount of shit that you put up with Nicole or not even you, just

(38:41):
like all women on the internet, everyone listening, be kind to all people, but especially women
on the internet because it is insane.
The amount of BS that Nicole, that me and Dante do not like I'll comment on something
and like the guy will just like back off and he'll be like, Oh, it was just joking, bro.

(39:02):
Oh, and what happens a lot too is like, I will firsthand talk about research that I
did and everyone will doubt it all and say that I'm stupid.
Dante will regurgitate information that I researched and compiled and they will be like,
yo, that dude's smart.

(39:22):
And I'm like, I'm happy to do it.
I don't, we are a team here.
I do not, I love him amplifying my messages, but it's bullshit.
It's total bullshit and it's all just insecurity.
You just hate women because you're sad and it's not because they did anything to you.
It's just because you're lame and you can't figure that out, dude.
You don't have to be buff or like super alpha or any of that BS.

(39:46):
You don't have to be like fresh and fit.
You need to be confident in yourself and you need to like be able to have fun and like,
you know, be sensitive, talk about your feelings.
Sometimes it also makes you feel better.
Like chill, chill the fuck out.
And just like look at women as people, man.
They're just people, dude.
And they're really cool.

(40:06):
Like a lot of them, it's like opening up 200% like the amount of cool people that you can
meet, dude.
They, and they like women are cool.
So stop being fucking lame, bro.
That's facts.
Sorry, go ahead.
I got it working now.
Okay.
So these, these are texts from Roger, 58 year old man to Olivia, a 19 year old girl and

(40:28):
the board in Newport that is Rogers ex-girlfriend, Kristen, who's cool.
We've talked to her.
She's amazing.
That's her song.
Hey guys, these are some texts from Roger to Olivia.
As you can see right here, right here, I, she's talking about me.
She is me in this case.
I am evil.

(40:48):
I am sick.
I am evil.
I am sick and I will ruin us.
Hey guys, these are some texts from Roger to Olivia.
Why is it playing again?
Okay.
I don't know.
It's so buggy.
I know.
So at the end here, the reason I said board in Newport, I'll read it because you didn't
read it in the video for our audio listeners.

(41:10):
Yeah.
Roger says, we have to be conscious of our audio listeners.
Cause we are a heavy audio podcast.
We just got a lot of videos today.
We're so sorry if we're not great at that yet, but anyway, about Nicole, a person with
15 followers when Roger's 58 years old and Olivia is 19 years old and Roger's got 3 million
followers.
He says, wait, wait, can I just, sorry.

(41:32):
Also at this point, what Roger knew was that Olivia was talking to me that I had offered
to help her with music.
And I think maybe at this point I'd started writing the song for her and stuff.
Like he, all he knew was that I was, I had entered her life in some capacity as a voice

(41:52):
of reason, a dissenting voice, I'll call it.
And he was not happy about it.
And Roger's seen it.
We did not do anything to, you know, it was very clear what my intentions were with Olivia
and it was to help her not be trapped by this psychotic man.
That's what abusers have to do is they have to pit you against each other.

(42:14):
Isolate, dude.
Isolate.
Yeah.
Isolate.
Roger says to a 19 year old girl, the fact that you would even consider interacting with
this person has me very worried.
Also it is not in my DNA to keep a promise.
I am going to release my cover of Borden Newport.
That's his ex girlfriend's song.
What does that mean?
Oh, he also said, let me know right now.

(42:35):
And right was capitalized.
If you want me in your life.
And that's, that's an insane thing for a man who's that old to say next.
Tick tock.
Um, we'll skip that one.
You can go watch it on the playlist.
He goes on Instagram and slanders Olivia and says a bunch of weird shit to her.
And then I'll just add some color there since you're going to watch it.
That was all slander.

(42:56):
That was then I believe, um, brought up in the NBC article when it was published and
he had like truly like, it was still like, that was his only response to things was a
couple slanderous remarks and no accountability.
And like, that was his only public statement outside of all of his tick tock lives.
So at least he's consistent, man.
He really did stick with the bullshit stories.

(43:18):
So then Roger, all they got, then you went private and I started calling him Roger Dodger.
You got to share your screen.
It auto played.
Let me share.
Hey, we are, we're working our hardest here.
We are brand new to the semi-professional podcast game, but we're trying our best here.

(43:43):
I got it working.
All right.
Roger.
So my caption is Roger Clay went private because he's been exposed for doing allegedly creepy
things.
Roger Dodger.
Come on, man.
You took yourself off of, uh, off a search.
It's a shame.
You can just go to sounds and still find his account.
So talking shit for you, Roger.

(44:07):
I'm talking, I'm talking right to you.
You did a lot of talking, right?
As the adult in the room.
I think you wouldn't have to deal with any of this if you just didn't have your TikTok
account.
That's true.
That's true.
Uh, that's what I would know.
It was an earnest advice.
I don't know.
You're your own man.
The only thing that's going to help.
Smart guy used to be an engineer, right?

(44:29):
Big brain.
I think that you can make a, you make the right decision for you.
I believe in it.
Oh, we were just feeding.
And I know that he saw like all of these.
And so this one right here, all right, we're just gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna talk
about both of them in a second, because this is my favorite.
One of my favorite ones.
Uh, this Nicole's so funny.

(44:49):
And here we're going to share my tab because we're, this is just a big zoom call.
Bro, what are you doing on?
He's just, what is he doing?
He's trying desperately to what he's just wearing his own merch.
He's like, guys, please, please just please be a claymate.
Please, please, please buy my merch.

(45:10):
What is he doing?
He's just online.
He was just staring.
Silent.
Stop.
Blocking.
And how many people are watching 2k?
Yeah, there were 2000 people watching this and he would just, he was just wearing, he
was all he was doing was.
It was like this, but it was his own.
It was his own merch and he was just sitting there being like, you like buy, buy my merch.

(45:32):
Welcome claymates.
Thanks for 20,000 likes.
Blocking anyone that said anything and blocking.
Yeah.
And just staring at the camera.
Like he was like.
He wasn't saying anything.
Yeah.
Thank you for 20,000 likes.
Please buy my merch.
Please buy my merch.
Thank you claymates.
They've got it.
They've just got a button that's like for the VIPs or something or like people who are

(45:56):
like friends of Palantir, you know, Oracle.
Yeah.
You've heard of friends of the show.
Have you heard of friends of Palantir?
Friends of Palantir.
Introducing officer Martinez or whatever.
Oh yeah.
That's a nice tall guy.
Friends of Palantir.
It's coming up.
You are being arrested.
You are being under arrest.
It's up at the top.

(46:16):
Right there.
All right.
Ready?
This is when we got arrested.
Oh, is it going to work?
Is it going to work?
Oh, some friends.
Don't work.
I know some of the soundbites don't work.
I don't know.
Well that sucks.
Maybe you guys should send me the code for the soundbites.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.

(46:37):
Maybe you should send me the code for the soundbites next time.
And then, because I have pretty good internet.
I think it might be related to that.
I think that would be good.
I agree.
Well, and we're going to be heading out from Wisconsin soon.
So we'll be back on our good, good internet.
We're doing our best, guys.
Here are a series of TikToks that I made that are pretty quick, pretty easy to digest.

(46:59):
We won't watch the whole thing.
But I started reporting on this as a news reporter because I wanted to troll Roger.
We just did a lot of bits.
Well, because, you know, probably this will be a recurring theme throughout this podcast.
But honestly, like the only way to get under some of these people's skins when they're
so egotistical and narcissistic is to clown on them, is to start coming at it in such

(47:25):
a menace way that like they have no defense.
Because if you come at it with logic, they don't hear logic.
They are so far past that.
That's my whole shtick.
That's why we get along.
Yeah, exactly.
That's all I want to do.
I am I am reporting live from Roger Gate and it appears that he is going to block every

(47:51):
single person on TikTok.
That is his strategy.
So it does appear every person on the app will be blocked by Roger Clay by the end of
this evening.
So if you see your Roger Clay live, join it and get blocked.
Everyone's doing it.
We were losing it, bro.

(48:12):
This is a contest now.
And the contest, I'm going to you got to stitch this video with your story about how Roger
Clay blocked you and describe in the comments.
We actually did get quite a few funny stories of people that were like, I said the word
predator and I got blocked or they were like, I just I used I used the baby emoji and got

(48:36):
blocked like the funniest sht.
This yeah.
So oh, this is the first time we thought he like actually deleted.
Yeah, this was the first.
This was August 14th.
August 14th.
This has been three days.
It is like days or something.
No, no, one was the first.
I think it's been a week.
It's been a week.
Oh, my God.

(48:57):
Only this is all in one week.
And this was like this was not that eventful of a week for all of these things.
Oh, like this is when we were really still just trying to get like eyes on it and be
like, guys, no, take this seriously.
This guy is being a fucking weird on live.
This is the first time we thought that he deleted his tick tock.

(49:20):
I think I made Roger Clay delete his tick tock account.
Nicole saying something right now.
What are you saying, Nicole?
It's my breaking news, these are my girl bosses and I care about them.
No kids breaking the news.
But yeah, the breaking news is that Roger Clay probably deleted his tick tock account.
It's like when the election is called, you know, it's over, but they haven't like officially

(49:43):
called it, you know, but it's everyone's like, yeah, you know, you know, what is about to
rise is Roger Roger means Roger Meme stocks.
It was at an all time going way up.
Because Roger memes when they hit an all time high, that's pretty much when he gained all
his followers and like he wasn't even the one making those memes, the ones where it
was like, it was like the relatable, like him singing in a bedroom with like, it'd be

(50:07):
like a vape next to them and like a candle and like talkies or something.
And it's like, this is me for real.
And it's him singing Lana Del Rey.
He didn't make any of those memes, but that's when he hit his peak.
And then our prediction was that we were going to see a rise in Roger stock again.
It didn't really happen.
It still could though.
I do think there were some banger ones.
There were some funny ones that people made of him like in jail that they tagged us in.

(50:31):
So we're definitely not going to watch all of this at all.
We're probably I'm going to give it 20 seconds, but and then I'll give us an opsis.
Yeah.
Yeah.
A second person has now come forward about Roger Clay and this person was one of his
live moderators that was also a young woman.
This was her initial message to me on Reddit.
I posted the PowerPoint there and she reached out to me from a throwaway account.

(50:54):
I've since confirmed.
Just give us an opsis of what it was.
So I'm going to skip forward and it actually just find some of the screenshots because
okay.
So like for context, these messages, these are between Roger Clay and one of his, I mean,
obviously now former live moderators, but at the time she was, she was in her twenties,

(51:16):
but still it was, yeah.
It's you know, mid 20.
It's like she's our age.
I was going to say, I think she was around our age.
It's still like knitted anus older than her.
Right?
No.
And it's still, it's all from the, it's all that same power imbalance talk that I could
get on a soapbox about where it's like a million follower guy who is girl who thinks like,

(51:39):
oh, it's a good opportunity maybe for exactly everyone wants to be able to kind of be involved
in some creative thing, especially if they're like a fan of the creator, like, you know,
a lot of people did just like see him as a very sweet, like wholesome presence online
and I could see how you could get duped by that.
He knows, he knows he's, he's, he's portraying that.

(52:02):
That's what he wants people to think.
He had succeeded for a long time.
Yeah.
I don't blame him.
There's just some of us that see it.
Exactly.
Disclaimer that you won't go to, sorry.
No, that's literally what it says.
Do it, do it.
Um, so yeah, these messages are between him and one of his live moderators that then,
you know, sent them all to me.
But so this is during his like quote cancellation of him, you know, getting exposed for what's

(52:28):
happening with this other girl in the midst of this, he is messaging his live moderator
saying that he wants to come visit her in, in her hometown.
This is a different person.
These messages are, I could kick myself for offering this, especially after my recent travel
for somebody experience in roughly.
Obviously horny view.

(52:49):
The hotel situation that just happened and everyone's talking about.
And then he says he would travel to, and it's her hometown.
Um, and he says, uh, you just have to provide a piano, a guitar, a voice.
Um, and then he says that she has to sign a disclaimer that she won't go to the gender
and stay because apparently that was something that really bothered him about his other experience

(53:11):
is, um, it's too hard not to laugh.
Cause it's so crazy.
And then he goes, he says, understand that I'm pretty f'd up, but want to swim in your
wit.
What the fuck does that mean?
Roger?
What the fuck are you that supremely horny that you cannot look at what's going on around

(53:37):
you and say, maybe, maybe I shouldn't know.
Maybe I should just not say this right now at a bare minimum, bare minimum.
Wait, wait until we pull things up.
What maybe just swim in your wits.
I would like to swim in your wits.
Yeah, that was, that was that.
Wait, I want to swim in your wits.

(54:00):
It's scary bro.
He's so scary.
But yeah, so that was like more confirmation that it was not a weird one-off bad decision,
you know, that he was trying to play it off as where it was like, ah, you know, it was
a, it was a lapse in judgment.
Y'all don't need to come after me.
And it's like, no, this is a pattern of behavior, sir.

(54:20):
So we're not going to watch it at all.
Cause it's kind of long and boring for this, but, uh, yes, there was, I made a Tik Tok
that did pretty well.
That, um, was about, yeah, pretty well.
I don't, you know, well, it kind of led me into something else.
Right.
So I made the Tik Tok.
It did well.
So I made a YouTube video.
Right.

(54:40):
And so the Tik Tok was about his now deleted discord server.
And I'm going to say one sentence about it.
He was grooming kids in that discord server.
Allegedly, in my opinion, it seemed like he was grooming kids in that discord server.
He was like trauma dumping about his marriage and shit.
He's really fucked up.
He's a 58 year old man.
There were like literally 13 year olds in that server.
So there's a whole YouTube, I made a 20 some minute YouTube video about it.

(55:03):
Um, if you're interested, go watch it.
And that video we recommended at the beginning.
Um, sorry that I cut off your plug.
Dante Welch.
But that video that we mentioned at the beginning too, they did a great job of talking about
the discord as well.
Like they, they cite Dante.
So if you watch that, you'll get the gist of it.
So yeah.
And so then we kind of moved on.

(55:27):
Um, oh yeah.
This is when someone, uh, this is, it's a quick one.
So somebody commented on a tick tock that I had and they said, let me find it.
Share.
So they said, the only thing you have is some text messages you sent yourself talking about,

(55:49):
um, the texts that I posted that Olivia sent us like screenshots of.
No people really were trying to, they didn't think we were like talking to
you're putting an effort to make up this insane story.
I was like, I don't even think I could come off.
So we're on FaceTime with Olivia and it's too crazy.
And so this is all somehow involved with Peter teal, Mr.

(56:11):
And Luminar.
What the fuck are you talking about?
You're understanding all of this.
I get that.
It's a lot.
It really just ties in dude.
It's so crazy.
So yeah, this is when, uh, I was, we were just on FaceTime with Olivia and she was showing
us texts.
And she, this is when she is the predator here.
Jesus.

(56:32):
This too.
And yeah, so that was, that was just kind of talking some shit.
You got sometime you got to slap back at a, at a stupid comment.
Wait, read it.
Do we need to, oh, wait, so I was trying to remember this is where she was showing us
a text of Roger.

(56:53):
It was when he was calling Olivia, a predator to other people.
Like he was lit.
I mean, textbook, he was trying to flip it all on her and like, he was calling her a
predator, but like he was going us a bunch of messages where he was like slandering her
name essentially in that tick tock.
So this is when we tried to pump the market.
Oh, this is from one of his, his old YouTube videos that you talked about his Rogers robots.

(57:18):
This is probably what he was doing when they founded Luminar.
Some of these videos are quite literally during Luminar stealth mode.
That's in like Austin's Austin's in some of them.
Yes.
We were losing it when we finally saw this too.
Which cat is it?
That's this is squeaker squeaker.
He's trying to get my attention because I think he wants dinner, but he's not going

(57:40):
to get dinner right now.
And he's also my boy that doesn't like be held.
Ow, ow.
Okay.
All right.
So this is, this is when I was trying to pump the market.
Screen up the whole time so I can see what video you're clicking on and stuff.
Please.
Sorry.
Yeah.
Just leave it sharing.
Babe, I can't.
You can.

(58:00):
No, I can't because the mic doesn't share the mic.
Yeah.
Oh, well what you could do is, Oh, I was going to say it's, it shares a tab.
Yeah.
Sorry.
No, you're good.
We're doing the best we can.
We're doing the best we can.
We'll, we'll fix it later.
Next time.
No, it's fine.
Podcast now.
Oh, Vulcan.
He has to be credited.
He woke up.
Okay.

(58:20):
So this is when I was trying to pump the market and inflate the market about Roger, about
the Roger meme stocks.
That was not me rushing you.
Just to be clear.
That was a let's go victorious.
Let's go.
I just want to be clear.
I'm not like.
Guys, let's pick up the fucking pace.
I'm not.
I'm not.
I'm not.
I'm not.
I'm not.
I'm not.
I'm not.

(58:41):
I'm not.
I'm not.
I'm not.
I'm not.
I'm not.
I'm not.
I'm not.
I'm not.
I'm not.
I'm not.
I'm not.
I'm not.
I'm not.
I'm not.
I'm not.
I'm not.
I'm not.
I'm not.
I'm not.
I'm not.
I'm not.

(59:02):
I'm not.
I'm not.
I'm not.
I'm not.
I'm not.
I'm not.
I'm not.
I'm not.
I'm not.
I'm not.
I'm not.
I'm not.
I'm not.
I'm not.
I'm not.
He may have actually made this.
This song is also so vital to the Roger lore.
Because he sang this song.

(59:24):
No.
Roger is riding down a driveway on a unicycle that's like a battery powered or something.
He's actually kind of good at the unicycle.
No I know.
I feel like I couldn't do that.
Oh he's back.
I know Dante has on the screen floss on him.
Yeah yeah yeah.
He was kind of crushing on him.
And the song Creep is playing and yeah so those are just some memes.

(59:49):
Those videos are kind of important if you really think.
I'm telling you.
I'm stuttering right now.
But on his YouTube channel, right?
That credits Roger's Robots and all that.
This is the YouTube channel that he was running when he was working at Luminar when they were
like in stealth mode building out their stupid fucking LIDAR.
Like I...
And I believe some of them.

(01:00:09):
And that's what he was doing at work.
And I think yeah.
I believe some of them may have intersected with the rogersrobots.com timing as well.
And were they going viral and stuff?
No.
I believe that he may have had one viral video.
I don't know if it was YouTube viral but I believe he was featured for some...
It was like another wholesome dad thing where it was like he made some contraption for his

(01:00:35):
kids and it got picked up by some.
This engineer dad built something for his kid.
But you know it was like...
Yeah.
Little.
Yep.
So no there's no...
We're not saying any words before this one.
Oh this is amazing.
We're just gonna watch it and then we're gonna talk about it.
Because it's crazy.
Roger Edward Clay.

(01:00:56):
That is not his middle name.
Don't message my sister back on Instagram.
She's 19.
I don't care how nice she was to you in the comment.
Dude if I have one piece of advice for you.
I will give you one piece of earnest advice.
You can like...
You can help yourself so much by never opening a DM...

(01:01:18):
Never just click on the DM button.
Ernest advice.
Why'd you follow her man?
Don't follow my sister.
That's my sister.
Eww.
I hate it.
I hate it so much.
So Dante's in front of a screenshot in this TikTok.
It's a screenshot of Roger Clay following Rozzy, Dante's 19 year old sister, back and

(01:01:43):
messaging her back.
All once again in the midst of this whole thing.
Let's get the date.
Let's get the date.
He gets 16.
816.
So we're still barely a week into this.
You know?
A week and a day.
I just think part...
Like I don't know.
Part of it is like that is...
It's proof that like he's...I don't know if it's like a narcissist or a psychopath or just

(01:02:04):
like addicted.
It's like truly...
I don't know what the...
Yeah, it's just like I think that no matter what, he's gonna find a way to get that whatever
the thing is that he's hooked on.
I don't know what it is.
He's got the juice from the live.
He's got the people reacting to him and he's got the...
I think a lot of them get like a little excited by the threat.

(01:02:28):
You know, some people know and they're talking about it, but not everyone does.
Yeah.
And I feel like he...
Yeah, he really thought that we would probably give up at some point or like not level it
up high enough to make an impact in his day to day life.
I think he really thought it was gonna stay as internet drama that would fade out and

(01:02:50):
we would get silenced and it all.
And so he was bold.
He was still doing all the same shit.
Like we said, the moderator messages.
Oh yeah, this is...
That was just my...
I was gonna say we won't play that one, but...
Oh, this one's awesome.
This is...
Yeah.
So this was...
When did this...
Oh, this is an incredible live.
Roger at 3 AM on the 17th.

(01:03:13):
So this is we morning early hours of August the 17th, 3 AM, Roger goes live once again
wearing a shirt with a picture of his own face on it and a cowboy hat.
Think toxic gossip train.
So I think I made up one that was literally like, this is Roger's toxic gossip train and
a tabloid cited that TikTok.

(01:03:34):
It was so funny.
It was the best moment ever.
I saw that they cited that and said this...
Like they reiterated that point being like, this is giving Colleen Ballinger.
And I was like, that's what I'm saying.
Thank you for being here, moderators.
All moderators, thank you.
Austin, thank you.

(01:03:54):
Austin, thank you.
Austin Russell, thank you.
Luminare PR team, thank you.
Roger's live in a cowboy hat for our audio only listeners.
He's just staring at the camera with his own t-shirt on.
T-shirt of his own face.
He just tipped a cap.
Cowboy hat.
Bro.
Tipped it.
Can't see his eyes right now.
Bro.
He looks like...
He's whistling, yeah.
Laughing.

(01:04:14):
What is he looking at right now?
This is looking down...
Dude, he's always looking at stuff on his phone or texting something else.
He's got a second phone.
It's like he's talking to someone.
Oh yeah.
This is toxic gossip train.
Or is this like his iPad shooting this?
Right?
And his hand.

(01:04:35):
Might be.
I think this is his iPad.
Yeah, you're probably right.
Yeah, he's an old person.
They love iPads, dude.
Yeah.
Yeah, he really always is looking off screen though.
He's always texting someone else.
He's texting.
Yeah, because he's got to have his phone so he can text Austin and the Luminare team
and say, hey, Dante and Nicole are back in here.

(01:04:56):
You got to get them.
It's girly 69.
Dante and Nicole are back in here.
Don't send anyone to the Monterey, Mexico, Luminare plant.
Yeah, we will suss of that.
And you know he's got his cute little stand all set up and stuff and the font's really
big.
Oh, hell yeah, dude.
This is when he started subtweeting us on Instagram.

(01:05:17):
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Let's go.
Okay.
Forgot about this one.
That was me rushing you that time.
Yeah.
Let's go.
Let's go.
Lies, lies, lies, yeah.
He's keeping it in my soul.
His smile.
Right?
He has the Joker smile, dude.
Yeah, he always looks so smug.
It is so unsettling.

(01:05:38):
Right?
Let's just find it.
I hate it, bro.
Oh, dude, look at Numb.
Creepy.
Oh my god.
Oh my god.
Oh my god.
Oh my god.
Oh my god.
Oh my god.
Oh my god.
Oh my god.
Oh my god.
Oh my god.
Dude, it literally curls at the end.
It's like the, what is that?
The Sheshire Cat or like the Grinch?

(01:05:58):
Oh my god, dude.
It's angry.
Yes.
Ah.
So yeah.
Oh my god.
We gotta get a Sheshire Cat like with Roger's face on it and sell those right now.
Oh, this one's awesome.
This is-
Oh, he's like actively crying in this one online.
Yeah.
We're gonna go from the-
He's down horrendous here.
We'll see.

(01:06:18):
We'll get to the next one.
Why?
Because his wife and him are split up.
That, I mean, that is, that is true.
Or one of the other reasons.
The caption is just, this is Nicole's TikTok.
It's on August 19th.
So we thought he was off TikTok again because he kept, like every day he would go private
and then he would come back online at night when he was gonna go live.

(01:06:39):
Like he thought maybe we would think he deleted his account and go away forever, but we knew
what he was doing.
He was going private to get people off his back for a bit and then he was gonna come
back when everyone forgot about it.
We never forgot, Roger.
We never forgot.
Can you like DM and stuff when you're private?
You think he was like, eh, I've got my six children I've corralled.

(01:07:01):
These children in my DMs, probably.
In my opinion.
Oh, wait.
Pause it.
There's also more lore here.
So this song in particular is even weirder for him to be singing because the night before
Olivia, the girl involved in this initial situation.

(01:07:22):
19 year old girl.
She's 19.
Dude, that's connected.
Connected already.
Well, she was on live singing this song.
So he very purposefully was fucking singing this song too to be like, ah, it's just so
weird.
Draw attention to her or something.
Sub tweeting constantly and like he acts like a middle school bitch.
Dude, yeah, like sub tweeting and like using songs, lyrics to like send his message to

(01:07:50):
his haters.
It's so funny, bro.
Oh, it's in here.
I think so.
If you can't see it.
Oh, look at all the tomatoes in the chat.
Yeah.
So this is when people started throwing.
So there's like cop.
So yeah.
So look, there's tomatoes in the chat.
There was a lot of like police car emojis.
But it used to be like positive towards him.
Yeah.
You said we love you, Roger.

(01:08:11):
And then now people started figuring it out.
So like us and like, I don't know, there were a bunch of other people.
They're probably like 10, 15, 20 other people that like consistently in there, like kind
of like sort of following our lead a little bit.
So we would go into the live, we would, you know, with like a new account because we were
banned.
And then, you know, he, we would say something like he would start banning words.
Right.

(01:08:32):
So then like the reason people started throwing tomatoes is because he'd like he literally
made it at some point.
Well, I guess you can type here, but at one point he banned all the words you couldn't
type in his account.
He blocked a lot of words already at this point.
Like he blocked a lot of like, I mean, yeah, you couldn't say like predator obviously.
Oh, this was the predator phrase.
And wait, why is that again?
Because what is his connection to Germany?

(01:08:54):
Oh, wait, no, no, he didn't block Germany.
We didn't know about it.
No, Germany was soon after.
So yeah, so basically people, this is this, the reason why I like this live in this TikTok
is like, this is kind of when people started throwing tomatoes.
This is when we started getting more people aware and on our side.
Yeah, the synopsis of this TikTok is that he said, what song is that?
And I don't want the world to see.

(01:09:15):
He's singing that song in a cowboy hat crying.
So dude, this is exactly what we need to do to Israel is what Dante and Nicole literally
fucking rallied people to do to Roger.
Literally, this is this is why we yap.
This is why I always say you gotta yap.
Yeah, everyone has to yap.
And we all got to tell each other this because look, once it's out in the open, it's like,

(01:09:40):
wait, this is so fucking weird.
We got to get rid of this guy.
Yeah.
And it sounds like a stretch comparison, but it's really not.
It's like, it's the same sort of idea where like he was throwing out false and misleading
and honestly just confusing narratives with the goal of confusing people enough to tap
out and not care anymore.

(01:10:01):
Yeah, that's the goal.
That's the same goal that's happening with Israel right now where they want people to
be confused enough to truly believe that it is a very complicated conflict and tap out
to not care.
But if you dispel those false narratives and help, you know, bring light to people who
like Olivia, like she would not have if she like we say was scary to think about saying

(01:10:27):
something.
We've had this on our own and not had people helping spread the true narrative.
Like you can get covered up and shut up so quickly.
And so like, yeah, that's what you're saying.
Like we got to all like notice when there's something that needs to be rallied around
in some way, you know?
Okay.
That's why I don't, I'm so over that.

(01:10:48):
Like, oh, what does this have to do with you?
What?
Like, dude, I hate bullies.
It's bystander effect to sit around and not, exactly.
It's like.
I hate bullies, dude, and I want to destroy all bullies.
And when I see people getting bullied, because I know what it's like to get bullied, I was,
you know, I'm the fat guy, you know?
So being fat when you're like nine is doesn't go well.

(01:11:11):
So like, I know how it feels when people are feeling like that, you know?
So now that I'm older and bigger than most people, I'm like, I don't care.
I'm going to defend.
I want to defend people because it's not right.
Like just using your power against people's bullshit.
Yup.
Okay.
So this is when, okay, so there's a little bit of backstory for this.

(01:11:31):
Is this where we're on the road?
Yup.
So we're on the road.
This is, I believe we had purchased.
Yeah, we have the van at this point.
So we were driving back.
Yeah.
So by this point we had flown to Reno, Nevada, bought a van to live in.
So we are renovating it right now, but we went, we drove to Reno and back in August
bought the van, started driving back.

(01:11:52):
And this was before the Starbucks boycott.
So sorry that we were at Starbucks.
We didn't know.
We didn't know.
We didn't care.
We were at a, we were at a proger or whatever and there was a fucking Starbucks inside.
I'm going to.
Hey Starbucks, if you're looking, if you want to run an ad on a podcast right now, we will
take that money.
You send it our way.
Fuck it, we'll take your money.
Yeah.
We'll take your fucking money.

(01:12:13):
We won't say anything nice.
Roger was back on live when you were on the road.
All I want to do is get home.
Let's go.
Why won't it look?
Testing.
Oh, wait you got to click the button.

(01:12:34):
Let's go.
Let's go.
Somewhere in Arizona, somewhere in Arizona, because we're van lifers and we're trying
to enjoy our life.
But Roger is going live crying on live with 1.9 thousand people in here, just throwing
tomatoes at him.
Oh, he ended the line.
It ended.
Yay.
Thank God.
Maybe he's going to quit TikTok.
He didn't quit TikTok.
I feel like this is one of the first videos that got me like, I have to watch these people.

(01:12:54):
What is all this stuff that they're talking about?
Oh, and then we got arrested by border patrol.
Yeah.
So further the day, the day goes along, right?
We're in Arizona somewhere.
We're being under arrest.
Yup.
We drive, we keep driving through Arizona.
We get to New Mexico and we get a flat tire.
Triple A comes, they fixed the flat tire.
It's all good.
But we sleep at a Planet Fitness parking lot and shower at the Planet Fitness.

(01:13:17):
It was awesome.
And we start driving back the next day.
And so we get to Texas and we get to El Paso, Texas, which is like a border town, right?
And then we get through El Paso.
We never went to Mexico.
We never came back from Mexico.
We never went to the border.
Never at all.
And we just ended up, we're citizens of the United States, born and raised, US citizen.

(01:13:39):
And then in our home state of Texas where we are residents, we pay taxes to, I actually
we don't because they come to Texas and I don't own property.
So whatever.
So we get through, right?
We get to El Paso, we get through El Paso, we get to the border, we see a border patrol
checkpoint and you know, I won't say what they told us to get out of the car for, but

(01:14:03):
we showed up to the border patrol checkpoint.
I had sunglasses on that looks like I did cocaine.
We messed up a little bit.
The sunglasses, they were like big orange, like coke.
Dude, is this America?
Tell me if I'm wrong, but is this America?
Do I have a freedom to wear whatever the fuck I want?
No, you don't because the officer Martinez at the border patrol checkpoint in El Paso,

(01:14:26):
Texas said, what are you doing?
And I was like, well, we're going home, told them, we just bought the van.
You know, if I would have personally, if I was him, I would have asked to see, you know,
oh, can like, if they were, if they were suspicious, look at my ID.
Oh, you said you just bought it.
Do you have the title for it?
Like can I see the like?
It's like a reasonable.
Nope.
They're like pull off to the side and it's a big white van.

(01:14:48):
So like I get why it looked a little weird, but then, but still that's not, that's not
a reason.
It's not a reason.
So they, yeah, they pull, have us pull over and they say, it's not a reason to search
the van and arrest me without seeing my ID either.
Like when you're supposedly, yeah, didn't even look at your ID until we were in the
like waiting cell.
That's what you're doing.

(01:15:08):
They don't care.
No, I was in the cell.
It's all just about power and throwing their dick around.
No.
And I really, I did what I could to beat down their ego that day.
And I think I was at least mildly successful, but it was, yeah, it was really dumb.
It was really dumb.
Just play that video real quick.
Yeah.
Oh yeah.

(01:15:29):
Shit, sorry.
So yeah, we're, we got arrested.
Oh wait, is that the next one you're pulling?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
It's the next one.
Oh, okay.
I just want to explain it.
Yeah, yeah.
This is the full explaining.
I thought we were just stupid.
This is not a joke.
We just got detained and quote arrested by border.
We did not actually get arrested, but they told us you guys are under arrest, did not

(01:15:51):
read us our rights and then put us in a holding cell.
And then now we were released because I said I would like to talk to my lawyer and then
they read us our rights later.
This is real.
This just happened.
And I have video.
I cannot believe I keep finding myself in situations like this.
Um, state of Texas border patrol.
Now you have something coming for you.

(01:16:14):
And that's when we made it our mission to, is our mission to get rid of dogs.
I want to get rid of border patrol entirely.
Yeah, absolutely.
I want to get rid of the dogs because I don't think it's reasonable suspicion for any search.
I don't think it's okay that only one person knows the secret signal.
If you didn't know that.

(01:16:34):
And it's all BS.
It's literally proven.
It's all BS.
It's all signaling and just, yeah, they make that signal and most of them don't even do
anything and they just say it's signal.
Yeah, it's, it's yeah.
Bullshit.
Oh, here's the clip of, of, oh yeah.
Now you're being under arrest.
Let's go.

(01:16:56):
Now you are being, this is where the sound butt comes from.
So we'll at least get to hear it here.
Let's so I want to point out that we're white.
Oh, can I read the caption of this too?
Can I point out why I said that?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Say that.
Not leave us on a cliffhanger.
So we're white.
And I think that as a, as a white man with blonde hair and blue eyes, you may relate,

(01:17:21):
right?
And she's a white woman.
And I think that we in theory have a little more leeway as like, as like a population
or like a group of people, right?
I think that in general, I, maybe it's a crazy thing to say.
I think that police have a, I'd say like law enforcement in general has a, they're a little

(01:17:42):
more apprehensive to a rough you up or.
So it's a crazy thing to say.
I'm just saying, I think because of that, we, and I think this is something that I think,
maybe you disagree with me, but I think that it is our responsibility to push that a little
bit.
Not all the way.
A hundred percent, dude.
No, I'm not trying to just disrespect for no reason.

(01:18:03):
Really make their job difficult.
I'm pushing back on abuses of power in situations where I know that I'm relatively safe.
And even if I, you know, even if I'm not like hypothetical, I mean, I was terrified here.
It's like hypothetically, they could have separated me and Dante and throw us into different
cells and take us overnight, whatever.
But all things considered, I am relatively safe in these situations, especially when

(01:18:27):
I'm with Dante as well.
Like, yeah, it feels like I, it is my duty to at least push back on these abuses of power.
Like, my hope is that they at least it's not going to reform a system, but at least person
to person, maybe these border patrol agents will think about what they're doing.

(01:18:48):
And like, you know, I just, I think about the humanity part of it and like human to
human, like I really, my caption on this video is weird day guys.
After this, I asked them if they were proud to have this career and if they find joy in
it.
And that was literally what I was looking them in the eyes without breaking eye contact
going, do you truly feel like you are making America safer?

(01:19:09):
Do you find joy in this job?
Do you think you are like doing something good with your time in life right now?
And like, look at him.
He's not even, you can tell they're like dead inside, you know, they don't want to be doing
this.
They live off the ego boost they get.
It's not a fucking, I don't know how they can say it's worth it.
They make like $35,000 here.

(01:19:30):
They're literally living at the poverty.
Don't they make a ton?
I mean, don't all cops make tons?
No, cops have usually have like good like benefits and like retirement and stuff.
So you do your 20 years and you get your pension.
I totally agree with that sentiment though, like that it is your, you feel obligated.
Like someone said this yesterday to me that I'm like being self righteous and shit.

(01:19:51):
And it's like, yeah, sure.
You can say that.
Like, oh, I'm like, get one of ego boost and whatever, but it's really not, you know, I've
been like, I've struggled to do this and like make content because I've always been horrified
of how my voice sounds and what my face looks like, you know?
But it's like, some reason my voice scared me a lot.
Yeah, dude.
But you know, they're saying it's like self righteous, but I honestly feel like obligated

(01:20:16):
because I said this in a comment the other day that like, I've been waiting for someone
to come up and say like, what's really happening.
You know, I watched Philly D for years.
I used to love him on YouTube and if you watch him on TikTok, man, he's like a fucking warfare
propagandist and you know, this shit, there's no one else fighting this.

(01:20:38):
So it's like an obligation that normal people stand up and especially white, yeah, like
white blonde haired guys, because no one, like we were saying earlier, no one pushes
back at us because most people don't feel that inherent like power against you.
Like that's why women get piled on the internet is because like 50% of men think that they

(01:21:03):
can just jump on them and no one gives a shit because of like this misogyny and shit, you
know?
So it kind of breaks their brain when you have to push back and talk in my shit and
like it's not, you know, I'm not just like, yes, officer.
Hello.
How are you doing?
Do it to your safety, you know, but like, it's not like you're, you're like running

(01:21:24):
your mouth to like be an asshole.
No, it's just, you just know your rights and you have to, and this is heading in a place
that could be very unsafe soon.
Absolutely.
If you don't say something.
Yeah, let's watch it.
So it's like, you have to push back.
Go.
You under arrest right now.
Go ahead and put your phone away.
Sir, what is the controlled substance?
What is the, what is the controlled substance?

(01:21:44):
Right now the camera's gonna cut in.
No, please tell us what's happening.
Please tell us what the controlled substance is.
So just real quick, all they said was that we both have a controlled substance in the
car and they never showed, never would, they wouldn't even, they took a bag out of the
car, would not show us what was in the bag.
And at this point we had also like, they already took us out of the van and like had not taken

(01:22:06):
our IDs, anything.
We were sitting outside and I had told the officer, I was like, he didn't even answer
my question.
I said, can the dog, like the dog smell for amphetamines?
Like you didn't even ask, like we both have Adderall prescriptions like in our own names.
Like we have not left the country.
Exactly.
I'm like, so like, so you're saying, so first of all, the dog hypothetically could have

(01:22:29):
alerted on our legal prescriptions then that you didn't even ask about.
And then you're not telling us what you're taking out of the van right now.
You're telling me I'm under arrest without telling me what I'm under arrest for.
And you're like patting down my boyfriend and made him put his phone down and like,
we're, yeah, we're under arrest now.
So yeah, I'm a little frazzled.
I can hear in your voice how scared you are.

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And I can see in Dante's face, like you guys are putting up a tough front, but it was scary.
It's horrifying.
It was, it was like, my thing is, I think I'm legitimately more, more afraid of that
interaction now than I was at the time.
Like at the time I wasn't really thinking about it.
I was just like, this is stupid.
I'm going to just, I guess I'm going to go, I guess I'm going to sleep here tonight and

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go home tomorrow.
But no, border patrol is a shady ass fucking place.
And okay.
The other thing here is we're talking about border patrol a lot with Roger Clay and I
know that what's up alphabet agencies, but listen, this is a theory.
This isn't true.
Obviously it's just goofy being goofy.

(01:23:34):
Silly goofy theories.
There's a non, we popped a tire and we got arrested by border patrol.
And Roger knows a lot of people, like Roger, maybe Austin maybe made a, what if Austin
made a call?
It's a joke.
It's a joke.
Palin, what's Palin?
What does that do again?
That's a private surveillance company.
Yeah.
Who's really with ice and probably border patrol.

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And it like follows like people's cell phones and GPS and whatever, like stuff like that.
Probably.
I mean, we don't really know.
And it's really not even like that unrealistic because we were posting on Tik TOK where you
could see our locations.
We were not hiding where we were in general, vicinity is, you know, like city wise, they

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knew we were driving from Reno, Nevada back to Austin.
That's not a hard route to figure out.
There's one way to do that.
So can I show them?
It's just, yeah.
The timing looking back is sus, but I'm recording because you're not giving us enough information.
Listen.
Dante spread eagle.

(01:24:40):
Well, now you're being under arrest.
What's the okra?
You gotta do that.

(01:25:02):
So that was border patrol.
We got arrested and we got home at 5am.
We got home at like 5am.
We just didn't sleep because we were just like, and then we watched the weird, this
is a complete, this is just funny lore.
We were sitting on the porch at like 630 in the morning.
The sun was coming up.
After all of this.
And we're never up at 630.
And just around the porch.
I live, I'm not going to say this one live because it would dox my apartment.

(01:25:26):
I'll tell you later.
There was some weird stuff going on on the street and the business is nearby.
I'm just going to say if you say what's across the street from your apartment, it'd be pretty
obvious, but there was some, there were some weird things happening that made us feel like
we were going insane.
Absolutely.
But then we took videos and looked back and we were like, no, that was happening.
We weren't hallucinating, but it was just some cops doing some weird shit.

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So what's new?
Um, yeah.
Would that be so funny if I found out in like a year that you guys were actually insane?
No, I'm just kidding.
No, I can attest.
It honestly would be great.
It would be like great for content.
We've checked ourselves a lot.
It would be.
It would be so great.
Honestly, it would be fun.
You guys want to see Roger put, uh, show his balls on the internet?

(01:26:09):
It's blurred out.
It's blurred out.
Don't worry.
Oh, but this was another time when he was weirdly like texting someone right before it.
Almost like he was getting, it feels like he's saying like, watch what I'm going to do
and get away with it.
Watch this shit, bro.
Yeah, watch.
Hold my beer.
And so I, I put the emoji up, but then it was all just fucking.

(01:26:30):
It's a nutsack dude.
It's out.
It's out in the frame.
This was intentional.
Oh, for the only listeners.
Oh yeah.
He's sorry.
He's texting somebody and then he's like, he's, he's turned 90 degrees.
So his, his, his ear is facing the camera, his side, and then he turns.
So he's facing the camera.
And when he turns, he like lifts his leg up and he's wearing shorts and you can see his

(01:26:52):
testicle hanging out of his, hanging out of his shirt.
And I blurred it in the Tik TOK video, obviously, but started.
It's over.
Started from the beginning before.
Yeah.
And then the way he smirks at the end.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like he knows.
Right there.
So, so then I just blur it right there.
Put an emoji.
You did this.

(01:27:12):
We both posted this video.
Yeah.
Chicken legs too, dude.
And then he, and then he giggles and then he giggles and then he fucking, yeah, he's
a little smirk.
He knows what he fucking did.
Sheshire cat.
Look at him.
Yeah.
Such a piece of shit.
Okay.
And so this one, this is where Roger's robots comes in.
So Roger's robots, I'm taunting him at this point.
Oh, we started to get really cryptic and just send messages straight to him on Tik TOK because

(01:27:35):
we were, we wanted to kind of, we were doing teasers for him.
We knew other people weren't going to know exactly what we were talking about, but truly
so many of these posts were for Roger to say, yeah, get the fuck off.
We have more information.
Knock it off.
I think like, I don't know if you've ever thought this way, but sometimes I'll post
the Tik TOK and do not care how many views it gets.

(01:27:56):
The only thing I care about is if the right people see it.
And in this case, I just needed Roger.
All I wanted was Roger to see it.
And I am pretty sure that Roger saw it.
And so what I'm talking about in this next one is rogersrobots.com.
And that was what we believe to be, right?
The website that is intertwined with Austin Russell and Roger.

(01:28:19):
And we have a, we have a whole 40 minute video about it.
A whole article on hotgirlsandpops.com.
Basically the gist of rogersrobots.com was it was kind of like a guide for how to do,
I'll just say pedo stuff on various websites like Snapchat and Movie Star Planet.
It was like, yeah, like kind of how to circumvent the safety measures.

(01:28:40):
It was very creepy.
Yeah.
So this is me talking to Roger.
Like his base and stuff?
Yeah.
No, not on the website.
Oh, on the website.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
It was previously linked to like his YouTube channel and he had like his YouTube videos
on there.
But when it became this like blog format, it didn't, it had some link to YouTube videos,
but thank God they did not show up.

(01:29:01):
I don't want to know what they were.
Yeah.
So yeah.
Hey Roger, what's going on, man?
Found a new site for you to go and check out.
It's called Movie Star Planet.
Movie Star Planet was one of the platforms that was described on this website, which
is kind of-
In detail too.
It's basically like a dopamine, like a cheat code for kids.

(01:29:21):
And this is the perfect place to go if you want to type.
I mean, I'm sure a lot of people, I didn't know this at the time because I think we were
like a couple of years after the Movie Star Planet boom.
Like my sister, who's six years younger than me, she said she played it.
But we did, you know, we looked into it a tiny bit at this point before we like deep
dove and it was so obvious.

(01:29:42):
This is, this platform is infamous for predatory behavior.
It is a breeding ground for pedophiles.
Like that's not its intention.
I'm sure it is, you know, they try their best to whatever, do safety, but it is a breeding
ground for pedophiles or at least-
And to be clear, you're talking about TikTok, not podcast.

(01:30:02):
Because podcast is the non-pedophile platform of the century.
Okay?
Yeah.
Podcast.
Podcast is just the information dump platform.
This is where we get to yab to our heart's content.
But yeah, Movie Star Planet really, it really was just like the same crowd of young people

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really entranced by dopamine hits as Movie Star Planet.
It's like equivalent to TikTok today in terms of like the audience that it would like, the
audience you would go on it to target if you were, if you had these specific goals.
Yeah.
So this, sorry, this next one-
Yeah, yeah, the next one is when I finished the Roger's Robots video, like that website

(01:30:49):
with the long one, the 40 minute one, the video was rendering and I posted this.
This is another one that I just cared about Roger seeing.
Hey Roger.
What a lot.
Just finished editing your video.
I wonder what the file name is called.
Roger website.
On the way back machine, baby.
It's going to take another hour and a half to render and it's only 1080p.

(01:31:18):
That's a 12 gigabyte file, Roger.
Do you know how many minutes that is?
It's like a 40 minute video.
Let's go.
All about the website.
You got one shot.
You got one more chance to talk to me.
It's going up tomorrow, dude.
It's going up tomorrow.
Oh yeah, we had attempted to DM him and be like, dude, if you really do, if you think

(01:31:38):
that you are innocent, tell us about it.
We will interview you in good faith and he.
I wonder why.
Which is why I'm confident saying that I think Roger's a pedophile in my opinion.
Yeah.
And the reason that they don't fight you is because then it'll do the Barbara Streisand
thing where it blows up.

(01:31:58):
You know, so they can't really bring it up.
I was just reading something about the Streisand effect today.
That's funny.
Do you know about Roger's book?
Dude, like his poem book.
Is this all to like brag or is this like really like to like help other P words or like, I
don't know.
I mean, it's our podcast.

(01:32:18):
You can say whatever.
Yeah, I've got a poem book, bro.
Dude.
And it's all super pedo-y, right?
Yeah, it's really creepy.
Well, even the cover, it really.
It looks like a kid's hand, dude.
And like, is this a braggy thing?
You know, it might not be.
Okay.
The weird thing is that like the so let's just watch the video because I think I talk
about what I'm about to say.

(01:32:39):
Yeah, sorry.
What is that?
Looks like it's a book written by Roger Clay.
30 year old poetry about relationships from a 26 year old male.
It's too specific.
Guys, that's pretty weird.
Roger Clay at age 26 documents relationship experiences as a series of poems.

(01:33:05):
The picture on the back for audio listeners, it is a PNG, like attempted transparent file,
but it has the like checkered border on it.
So it's my favorite fucking part.
I'll keep playing the video.
Today, 30 years later, the emotions captured still ring true.

(01:33:25):
I genuinely do not know what is in this book.
I was sorry.
Sorry.
Sorry.
Well, no, it's I get excited.
So you're good.
What's your question?
I was just going to say this is these are 30.
These these these are 30 year old poems, right?
So this is him writing it.
We don't.
There's no way they're 30 years old.
There's one that's like way that they're all 30 years old because I don't.

(01:33:48):
Okay.
Okay.
So I don't have the palm.
We have to get a copy.
Oh, no, we have it.
It's just.
I don't know.
It's in my it's at home.
It's awesome.
I've read it all.
So but there's one there's one out there that is the poem is like it's called engineer meets
doctor and this one's not like pedo at all.
But it's like you know how Austin Russell is like homies with Elizabeth Holmes of Theranos.

(01:34:13):
Yeah.
So, dude, engineer meets doctor.
And listen, when you read it, it sounds a lot like him talking about Elizabeth and Austin
or Elizabeth and himself.
I don't know.
But like it sounds like he's talking is like talks of blood and like revolutionizing.
It's like very it feels a lot like and this was around.

(01:34:35):
He was around like the he would have been around.
Exactly.
He would have been around that he would have known them.
But these are 30 old pumps.
So that can't be the case.
He copyrighted them 30 years ago, according to him.
He just writes copyright on all of them.
It's really like the year that they're supposedly from, which they may or may not be.
But yeah, no, that one calls himself a senior electrical engineer.

(01:34:58):
Roger Clay.
Yeah.
These are graphics.
Oh, this this.
Let's see.
You guys fill in.
Oh, yeah.
So here we're on to I don't know if we've said the date in a second.
This is now like we're nearing end of August, August 25th.
This is when we started learning about Rogers Family Tree and started posting about that

(01:35:20):
when we felt confident in the research we had gathered.
So this is the live video where I was in his live.
We were all in the live under burners at this point, sending like German flags and eagle
emojis because also, you know, if you get it, but also like Austin Russell's username

(01:35:40):
on a bunch of things is AKR Eagle.
Also fucking sus all things considered family lineage considered.
And so that was the Austin something Russell, a.k.a.
Russell.
We do know.
So there's one thing that's weird about all this, too, is like the with the eagle.

(01:36:00):
So right.
Like I get like eagle very American, right.
But even that's pretty weird.
And so but Germany loved they love the eagle.
Once you know, and you know who else loved the eagle was Adler.
Like they're they're like they they were like known for putting like I don't think like
a was it a Rolls Royce that has like the big emblem on it, but like or like a Lincoln.

(01:36:22):
But it's an eagle.
And they had the like Nazi eagle on their company during that time.
And like Austin still likes eagles this much, bro.
Yeah.
So anyway, this was flooding the chat with this is when we started alluding to the Nazi
Germany stuff.
He actually acknowledged.
And yeah, yeah, yeah.

(01:36:43):
Crazy.
I'm in there as Heinrich Kleier right now.
So Heinrich Kleier, that was the burner.
And Heinrich was his grandpa slash great grandpa who founded Adler work, right?
Yeah, the one who owned the concentration camp.
Yeah, yeah, sorry.
All across Germany.
Yep.

(01:37:03):
Thank you for clarifying that.
I appreciate it.
And Rogers on a plane if you're not watching.
He says shit.
You hear that?
He goes, yeah.
So sorry, we won't talk while we do that again.
So Nicole messages a German flag emoji under the name Heinrich Kleier under the name Heinrich

(01:37:24):
Kleier.
I had sent something.
So here's a fun fact.
My last name is derived from a German name because my father was German.

(01:37:46):
And then Nicole on the TikTok, if you're not watch shows, shows who Heinrich Kleier is
and that he ran.
And then I believe that Adler work was a concentration camp.
Yeah.
Dude, that's what I mean.
I feel like he's bragging.
Yeah, no.
Or not bragging, but like being like.
Yeah, I know.
I know.
He doesn't care.
Yeah, he doesn't give a fuck.

(01:38:06):
And then then we submitted a report, not really a full report.
This was more of like a one pager.
So it was a luminary email.
We sent in, we sent an email to the to Austin Russell at Luminar.
We sent an email to Roger at Luminar and we added the VP of HR and the CTO as well.

(01:38:26):
And like, I think those are the those four people.
And the email.
Yeah.
And then we basically just like, hey, we you know, because Roger was one of the co-founders
of Luminar.
And so basically what we said was like, hey, this co-founder of your company's high ish
up, right?
He's an engineer.
He works there.
He's doing some shady shit.
Like we kind of maybe you guys want to know about this.

(01:38:47):
And then we also eluded.
We had just got some of the information about the family tree so far.
So we put a little bit of that in there.
Yeah.
And then, yeah, like you said, we attached like the head of HR and like CTO and stuff,
because I did not trust that if this went to one person, it would get thrown under the
rug and.

(01:39:07):
Is that the right phrase?
Thrown under the rug?
Shoved under the rug?
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And so the timeline here, right?
It was Thursday night.
Washed under the rug?
Thursday night.
That's it.
Oh, did Roger talk to his mechanic?
Oh, that's show this one.
Yeah.
This is probably the right one to show.
Tell me who is watching.

(01:39:28):
There's a few TikToks here.
I'm going to get them in order for you and then you guys can just get out for a second.
Yeah.
So this is when he said, yeah, like he said, so we sent this email to Luminar and then
I believe it's that same night or the next day when he's on live, he randomly has to
go take a call from his quote mechanic.

(01:39:51):
And then he shortly after that is on a flight to Orlando and we know it's a flight to Orlando,
AKA where the Luminar headquarters are, because he doxed himself on the flight.
We were literally, dude, I had a flight tracker open.
I was ready for them to like say a flight name over, cause he was fucking, he's on live
on the plane.

(01:40:11):
So I'm like, they're going to say something over the intercom and sure enough, I didn't
have to do any research.
They go, this, the flight headed from Los Angeles to Orlando, Florida.
And I was like, are you stupid?
My man.
Dude, he is.
They are.
They all are.
So then he, I believe is this when he's in Orlando?
This is live.

(01:40:32):
Anyway, we're going this.
Doesn't matter.
So he went, yeah, I think maybe this is the right order.
It doesn't really matter.
So this is when he was live and he admits to owning Rogers robots and then we'll watch
him on the plane.
That old website that expired three years ago, I have no control over.
For context, so he said the website expired three years ago.

(01:40:55):
The blog posts that we were talking about were from 2017.
If you guys are struggling with the math, that is six years ago.
And so saying that the website expired three years ago does not do anything to help him
here.
And then he incriminates himself further.
I did not write what was on my old website, but it is three years ago.
I owned that website.
I owned that website.

(01:41:16):
So the blog posts in reference and we know for a fact, he owned it from the very beginning
because it used to link to his YouTube channel and stuff.
It was very obvious.
He promoted it as his site.
And so he confirmed here that he owned the website up until three years ago.
That'd be 2020.
That is way far after the posts that we are referring to on his site.

(01:41:38):
And so, yeah, he confirmed it for us here.
I mean, we had done a shit ton of research into like domain registrar data and random
stuff to really try to like triple confirm that the person on the registrar, because
it looked like they, what it looked like is that they knew they were going to start using
it for some shady stuff and they switched it to a fake name or, you know, an alias of

(01:42:02):
some sort.
But we, you know, we still cannot confirm or deny that because it's all speculation.
But that right there was some confirmation from the man himself.
And so add it on to everything we knew.
This was not, it was in the same like 12 hour period.
He went live every like three fucking hours.
And this was, this was right before he was on the flight.

(01:42:25):
So this is what happened.
He talks to his mechanic.
Truly for real.
Tell me who is watching.
Who's watching me?
So at this point during the live, what I'm doing, I'm just, I'm, I'm sending clock emojis
because we couldn't send messages.
At this point you're Anna B.
My burner was Anna B. That was my burner.

(01:42:47):
And I was just sending clock emojis because like I said, he walked away, he walked away
and you couldn't type words.
They were all the words were banned.
Oh yeah.
At this point he had blocked every, you couldn't use words and you couldn't use certain emojis.
You could only use like a handful of approved emojis.
So then Roger comes back and this is what he says.
Well, wow, this is still going.

(01:43:09):
I just got off the phone.
Like what?
An hour after it was literally an hour after we like click send on the whistleblower form.
We sent it during the day to Luminar.
We sent it like four or five o'clock where it was like someone would see it before the
end of the work day, but we didn't know if anything would action from it in, you know,
right away.
But it was, I think this was like a Thursday.

(01:43:29):
And so we were like at the minimum something will happen tomorrow before the weekend.
They're not going to let this just start.
Yeah.
And this is what he said.
Still going.
I just got off the phone with my auto mechanic and congratulations.
Congratulations.
My auto mechanic is not finished.
He's just lying too.

(01:43:50):
Like this is the worst lie I've ever heard.
Anyway, maybe next week I'll have a car that works.
How did you get to the airport, Roger?
And then he were, this was when he's on the going on the plane.
I don't know if this is the video of the live.
I'm just talking about though.

(01:44:13):
Do we have a video of the, um, on the plane?
Roger's going to Orlando?
No.
No.
You'll have to take our word for it.
There's a video somewhere out.
It's on one of our pages.
But this was me talking about him on the plane.
I shit you not.
He was on the plane and it said what flight from Los Angeles to Orlando.
And we were sitting there like geeking because we're like, that is where the Luminar headquarters

(01:44:36):
are.
What's going on?
I'm talking to the Luminar board right now.
Sorry.
That is Nicole laughing in the background of the Tik Tok.
I'm always caught off guard by Dante's like one-liners at the beginning.
Cause you, you, you come in blazing.
If the Luminar board, uh, I think you guys are probably going to be like meeting tomorrow

(01:44:59):
or something about Roger and Austin Russell.
I don't know.
Someone might've emailed you sometime.
I don't know.
Like a big document.
Pretty important.
So, you know, um, if you happen to want us unrelated, we are just like subject matter
experts in Roger Clay.
If you guys, uh, if you want to talk to us during your meeting tomorrow, hit us up.

(01:45:21):
That's just probably say a lot.
Cause our lawyer is at cool and disabled in dot day.
Well, 69, your premier sources for investigative research.
I want to, I want to, I want to ask Roger a couple of questions.
I have many questions and I want to ask Austin Russell to do an E, uh, a lead, uh, an easy
lead code question.
I was like a little dig at Austin.
Cause the way you do computer science interviews are a little stupid, lead code, uh, algorithm

(01:45:44):
problems.
And I don't believe that Austin can do one.
I don't think he's very smart.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like all, like all rich people, right?
He's not smart and he probably doesn't even know how to code.
He's been touted.
Whatever he says touted as the boy genius that is his archetype.
And I simply don't believe that he's one of those people that can just word salad his

(01:46:05):
way to sounding smart.
And like same sometimes, but like at least there's some substance here sometimes.
Jesus.
Yeah.
So then Roger, uh, left Tik Tok live or where he was off of Tik Tok again.
We were, we, you know, we had a little celebration.
This is where it starts to get really fucking dark.
So I know that we've been filming for an hour and 47 minutes, but I don't know.

(01:46:27):
It'll be a two parter.
We'll get through all of them.
There's not that many.
Last time it's not going to be a two parter.
It's going to be a lot.
No, it'll be one.
We'll get the listeners.
We have, we do long with this special episode.
Happy new year.
If you're listening this far, you're going to, we started by calling a two hour episode,
a double episode, and it might just end up being the norm.
I think we're a two hour episode.
I think we just talk too much, but that's great.

(01:46:48):
That's what a podcast is for.
Yo, yo, we should make a podcast.
Stop it in the middle.
They can listen to it later.
Yep.
So here, um, so he was off of live and he came back, right?
I'm not going to, we don't need to watch those Tik Toks.
They're just whatever.
But so he was off of Tik Tok and he comes back.
And we're like, I don't know what the fuck to do.

(01:47:08):
And we're a little bit traumatized, um, by this.
And this, wait, this is the video.
This is the video that Nicole shared.
Cause our bit was like, we were just kind of like shell shocked a little bit for, I
don't know.
That's kind of a weird word to use here, but like we were just kind of like, what else
can we fucking do?
You know, and it really, and to like, you know, we've talked a lot about how goofy Roger

(01:47:31):
was being online.
But like at the same time, at this point, like I was talking to and like getting FaceTime's
from Olivia on the daily.
Like I really, really cared to get her through this.
And that's, that's a thing that enough, like nobody really understands.
I know it was like, I, she was telling me what Roger was saying to her still and texting

(01:47:52):
her or posting in other places.
Like I just cared so deeply about making sure that people knew the truth about him so that
she stood a chance to maybe not have to deal with him ever again.
And it was, it was, yeah, it really was taxing dude.
Like I was exhausted, but I, like we said, we did this cause we cared so much about making

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sure that this egotistical maniac did not get away with such obvious like borderline,
if not actual crimes.
Yeah.
So then I posted this.
Yeah, actually, actually I think, I think this is prob before I show this video.
I think the reason why this one is going to like, you need some context, I think, to understand

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why we were in the mindset we were in.
Cause they, we just explained it, but it doesn't quite, it doesn't quite hit.
So Olivia, right?
Like, like Nicole just said, they were like FaceTiming every day.
You know, I would show up, I would talk to her whenever Nicole did usually.
And so we were like, kind of like, we kind of were taking it upon ourselves to be like,
okay, she needs somebody there to like, like not let her totally just like let Roger do

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as he pleases.
Right over the story.
Yeah.
And so what we did is we, she was like, Hey, I kind of want to like, is there any way we
can meet up, not meet up, but like, is there any way I can like get out of here?
Cause like she also had an environment was not good.
And I'll just, that's flat out bad home life, bad influences around her in my opinion, obviously
all my opinion, but Roger was able to like, it felt like that was a targeted, um, it felt

(01:49:31):
very specific, right?
Cause if you have two parents who are there, um, well, and she had expressed to us, I mean,
without even getting into details, like the family life.
So I don't want to, I really don't want to disclose too much about that.
But like, I mean, one of the things that she said to us when we were talking to her was
like that she did not, she said outright, she did not have support at home.

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She didn't feel like she had friends there.
She didn't feel like she had family supporting her.
And so if that could be true, it could be not true.
I don't know, but it was what she was feeling at some point in time.
And that's why we just really felt like we were two people that had the time, energy
and resources to help this person.
And it was, you know, in watching what she had gone through, even just online outside

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of her normal life where it's like she had been dealt a shit hand of cards already and
dealing with, you know, whatever other stuff that we mentioned, you know, I think made
her a vulnerable looking target to Roger.
But yeah, it was, it was intense.
And the thing with that, the whole thing with that is like, we literally bought her plane
tickets to come to Austin and like Nicole wrote her a fucking song.

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We bought her like, like a ring light and a mic.
Like we had, we had, we were going to help her.
And so the first we bought her two plane tickets, actually the first one we bought it and then
a bunch of shit like that, you know, all this happened, a bunch of shit at the fan Roger
was harassing her.
And then she was like, can I, can I get out of here sooner?
So we bought a one way ticket to like expedite the process.

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And so then both of those times that she was supposed to seriously was not the first time
she was supposed to leave earlier with that, the, the expedited plane ticket.
Right.
And so she was going to stay at my with us for like a week and she didn't leave that
morning.
She was up all night with Nicole.
Nicole stayed up all night on FaceTime with her.
Can I just say this?
Yeah.
She stayed up all night on FaceTime with Olivia till like six 30 in the morning and then yelled

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and was like, Olivia, wake up, wake up, wake up.
Cause she wanted to sleep alone and she wanted to sleep and not miss her flight.
And she wanted to sleep for a few hours.
So she wanted me to stay on FaceTime with her and I stayed up all night, woke her up
with my voice yelling on FaceTime, saw her up for the airport.
She was packed, lights were on and then we get a text, you know, whatever, like 30 minutes,

(01:51:44):
an hour later that she, I forget what the first time was.
It might've been like I fell back asleep and didn't like something that just seemed very
improbable given the last state I'd seen her in.
It was like, it feels like she like walked out of her house and someone is like, Olivia,
get back here.
So it feels like she walked with a suitcase, like she was going to go somewhere and someone

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said absolutely fucking not.
That is our opinion.
But it was a very, it just didn't, Oh, Vulcan's down.
Vulcan just said, Hey, what's up?
Here, let me move this.
This is Limeboy.
Anyway, so we were kind of like, what are we supposed to do?
You know?
And so this was, this is the TikTok that Nicole posted.
This is just kind of goofy, but.
This is, yeah, this was just, he had been offline for one day and it felt like a very

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small celebration behind the stress I still felt about it all.
Yep.
And so I don't know if there's going to be music.
It's not, it's like a photo post.
I think.
Oh, it's a photo post.
Is he gone for real with SpongeBob?
I have this succession music.
Oh, it's the succession music.
We did it.
We saved the time.
It's all SpongeBob memes.
If you can't see it, they're good.

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Go watch the video version if you're interested.
But so Nicole, I forgot about this one.
It's Roger and Austin on the, on the cops from SpongeBob.
So we were just kind of like, you know, what the fuck are we supposed to do?
And then we, we decided what we were going to do.
This one also has the succession music and Nicole, do you want to give him, so stealth?

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Yeah, you can tell him about stealth.
We decided, so like he said, the stuff with the plane tickets was happening and it made
us so uneasy and so scared that something more sinister was happening because, um, throughout
this time too, like we had gotten a lot of concerning texts from her and like she had
confided a lot of concerning things to us that like then suspiciously kind of started

(01:53:32):
getting backtracked randomly or like, you know, it seems like someone didn't want her
talking to us for one reason or another.
And so we decided to go into stealth mode.
We took a page out of Austin and Roger's Luminar book and we went into stealth mode and during
this time we rinded out this like 80 page document, the one we referenced that ended

(01:53:56):
up going to the FBI because we had to get the story straight.
So I made an entire timeline of events because it w like you've seen, there are so many random
points in this story where like he did something very wrong, but it's all very confusing.
And so we laid out the timeline and then also like,

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I'm just saying my laptop, even though it's plugged in, is at 19%.
So, uh, okay.
So yeah, we'll just keep going.
So this is, this is, this is just, at one point, Olivia went live, right?
And defended rogersrobots.com like said that Roger didn't own it.
And we know she, I'll just fucking say it.

(01:54:41):
She told us on a secure line of communication, I am 1000% that this is Olivia, that Roger
was fucking forcing her to say this.
And he, I believe he was at her house in person, taking her fucking phone through her window,
like Rapunzel.
Like this is something that starting to realize the gravity of, of people finding this stuff

(01:55:01):
out, right?
And like it, it really doesn't want to lose a lit, like he needs to keep Olivia, right?
She's like his current like hyper fixation.
Yeah.
So this is Olivia.
This is getting that Roger.
Yeah.
24th, uh, there's a paper being printed right now.
I'll let you watch the rest in a second, but go watch.
Sorry, I didn't show the video.

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This is literally like that joke video where I was like, um, I'm scared.
Uh, the CIA is good and they've never done anything bad.
Yeah, no, literally.
That's what it was.
Like she, she, she, when she was live, um, she said that she had a cyber security expert
wasn't a fucking cyber security expert.
It was her aunt's boyfriend who's not a cyber security expert.
I'm a fucking software engineer.
I'm not a cyber security expert, but I can read a fucking domain registrar.

(01:55:45):
And that's all we were doing.
Well, and what the other thing was that was really weird was, um, we were texting her
during this because we saw her go live.
I believe it was this one when we were like, what the fuck is happening?
Like this is really odd.
We're texting, started texting her during it.
Oh yeah.
And then I would say like started asking her questions and then saying like, touch your

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forehead if someone is making you do that.
That's right.
That's how we touched her for this.
Wasn't a secure one.
Well, it was later on that she told us that it's all relevant here though.
Yeah.
But yeah.
And then she was signaling to me essentially saying, yes, someone was making her do it.
Do it.
Yes.
It was Roger.

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Um, and yes, yes.
He had a lawyer.
Yes.
And she was physically safe was the last one.
She said she was physically safe.
So I was like, okay, we know what's going on.
We were like, well, it kind of like eased us a little bit because we were like, at least
we know that Roger is crazy enough to force her to do this.
Right.
That was like, okay, now we know what we're working.

(01:56:47):
Yeah.
It was kind of like, yeah, validation that like, okay, no, this guy's fucking insane.
We're right to be like hammering down on this.
And so Nicole makes a video about, um, who like, she basically asked like who's intimidating
Olivia, just kind of starting to ask questions.
Then Nicole posted this video.
Uh, let me find it.
It's about the Klier family tree.

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So this is when she, this is the first time that she says anything about, uh, add their
work in the Nazi ship.
No, it was like he, he wouldn't stop.
If Roger would have just got offline, we wouldn't have kept digging for shit, but he did this.
He made, he has to keep going.
He's the perfect, he has to get the attention.
Yeah.
Because of that, because of that, he's the perfect beginning of a pipeline to like make

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people really understand what's going on.
So here's Nicole talking about some Nazi shit.
What's up gamers.
It's a new day and that means new Roger clay info.
Yeah.
He thought he could sneak back onto Tik TOK.
Did you guys see that?
His account's back.
I have posted the full breakdown of Roger's robots.
Um, there's an article and I posted all the screenshots.

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You can just scroll through it on my page or the links in my bio.
Um, I will also be posting the family tree soon.
It's very concerning and I'm not talking about it for no reason.
They know what I'm talking about and soon everyone will aliases only get you so far.

(01:58:12):
Immigration cards get you farther.
You guys can look up Adler work in the meantime, but I'll fill you guys in.
Don't worry.
Yeah.
This went along with our theme of just taunting and getting the message to who we wanted to
get it to.
Um, here you guys talk for a second.
I want to pull something up.
Yeah.
So we'll, I'll talk a little bit about the Adler work stuff because that research was

(01:58:33):
a trip.
Um, it was truly like, oh yeah, pull up the article here, but it was so, it was just one
thing after another.
Like I was on, yeah, plug have hobbies website, hot girls have hobbies.com.
I write stuff there.
We post stuff.
This is what I wanted to show.
We'll tell the Nicole has all of what we're talking about written coherently, like with

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pictures on her website.
So go there.
Hot girls have hobbies.
Okay.
Oh yeah.
Before I talk about this, before I say anything, I would like to say I, I am, this is as earnest
as I can be.
I believe trans women are women.
I am a hundred percent.
Um, what's the term I'm looking for here?
You're not transphobic.
Yeah, yeah, I'm an ally.

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I'm an ally.
I'm not transphobic.
I like to believe.
I'm an ally.
We're Nazi hunting here.
So we've got to, we've got to, we've got to use microscopes, you know,
And we just got to think about the documented tactics that we know were used.
This is not a slight at appearance.
This is, this is a Nazi dressed up as a woman.

(01:59:39):
Yeah.
Probably in our opinion, because the alias was found with other aliases of the family
and the, the aliases were in an area of, I believe in Spain.
The Dominguez one was used, Alvira Dominguez.
Alvira was the mother of the family's name.
You're telling me this is Alvira Dominguez.
Read the article.

(02:00:00):
Brother, that is Peter Thiel or Roger Cly or Austin Russell.
That is what that is right there.
And I'm not going to get into it right now, but we're not just saying that.
Nicole has tracked, like she's done some good cross-referencing with the names and it checks
out that Alvira Dominguez is involved with the Roger family.

(02:00:23):
Right.
You guys ever heard of ancestry.com?
Ancestry.com is fun.
Ancestry should sponsor us too, dude.
I-
Oh my God, if we got a fucking ancestry.
I'm saying though-
Oh, I'm going to write that.
Ancestry really, really provided some, some crazy documents for me.
Like you provided some dots to connect.
So thank you.

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Oh, what's this one?
This was me talking shit to Roger about, what was it about?
It was about, oh, he went back online again.
He came back online.
Oh yeah.
Cause that's what my last TikTok was about too.
It was like him sneaking back online.
So then we were pulling out the big guns and said, okay, we'll talk about your Nazi family.

(02:01:06):
Roger, I know that you're going to see this because you definitely watch all of my videos.
I can't believe you actually came back on the internet.
It completely makes-
It baffles me.
It baffles me.
You could have just not stayed online, made us seem like crazy people.
But this whole week you've been plotting and scheming, you've been plotting and scheming.

(02:01:27):
And we didn't say anything.
And then the second some other stuff happens, we start yapping and all you had to do was
stay off the internet.
You immediately come back onto fucking fricking TikTok.
You just don't get it.
You really don't get it.
And I really, really, really, really, really, really, really hope that you don't have a

(02:01:47):
lawyer because if you had a lawyer right now, that'd be the worst lawyer.
That would be crazy if they were telling you to get back onto it.
That would be crazy if they were telling you to get back onto it.
Our earnest opinion at the time was like, if someone is telling you that it's okay to
do this, I'm telling you dude, don't listen to them.

(02:02:08):
You're doing yourself dirty, man.
Okay, we're not going to watch this whole one.
But this is when this was no, I think you can see how like I'm legitimately like, like
I'm flustered in this video because we get a phone call and it was about like Olivia.
It was an un I didn't know the number and it was like a voice changer.

(02:02:29):
So I'll play it like they were using a voice changer saying some really fucked up stuff.
September six for those keeping track of the dates.
We're now about one month out.
This isn't a month.
Yeah.
So here we go.
So the TikTok says we received a call yesterday from Olivia McCraw's phone from someone.
So it was from Olivia.
So that's why we answered it.
Oh, why is Olivia calling us?
We hadn't heard after.

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Okay.
So I want to point out that we plan we in my head, Olivia was coming to stay with me
and Nicole for us for a week.
Right.
And she just didn't show up.
Right.
She didn't get on a plane, whatever.
And then later on, she said, hey, I really need to get out of here.
Can I drive tomorrow morning?
Can I leave at 9am?
We said, yeah, we went to bed late.
We woke up at like 1pm because we're degenerates.

(02:03:10):
And then she we never heard from her.
We didn't talk to Olivia until I believe right in this moment.
So this was like days of fucking blackout, zero communication from her after I had planned
in my head.
She was going to be leaving and traveling to come see me.
Three different missed attempts to leave to travel to us and then silence.
And then we get this fucking scary call that makes it seem like Olivia has been kidnapped.

(02:03:33):
Like literally, we are fearing for the worst here.
We are like like just play the video.
You can see how shaken up we are.
Why are you using a voice changer right now?
Why would someone be using a voice changer on Olivia's phone right now?
Because my voice sounds really bad.

(02:03:55):
What?
You expect me to believe what's being said to me right now?
You're on crack, dude.
Whoever the fuck you are.
I had to I had to have censor for TikTok.
However, right now, right now, this is about you.
Because Olivia Macrae, we do not believe Olivia Macrae is safe right now.
What?

(02:04:16):
Olivia does not want to let me say something.
If you do not want to be in this anymore.
Talking to me is pathetic.
You are.
Oh, can you pause it for a sec too?
So on the screen for those listening, it also says they taunted us, spoke for Olivia and
said the opposite of everything she has ever told us.
They also confirmed that they quote sent a burner account.

(02:04:38):
So like they were one of the accounts harassing us.
Like they mentioned the name of one of the burner accounts that had been like severely
trying to discredit us.
And then like it ends with like we'll finish the like playing some of the audio here.
Like play the end of it where like a guy laughs maniacally because it literally sounds like
Roger and it's so scary.

(02:04:59):
At the least it's a scary sound.
Yeah, we'll play it.
It was really it was really awful talking to you.
I really hope that Olivia is safe and that you are not the one responsible for for what's
going on with her because we will find out what's happening.
Absolutely, you will and it will all be fine.

(02:05:22):
We don't know that Olivia is safe.
We don't even know that Olivia is talking to us ever.
Is that a man?
Yeah, that is you sound like a serial killer.
Is this Roger?
They hung up.
And like we literally were just in like shock because we're just walking my fucking dog

(02:05:45):
outside my blind dog.
We're walking Vulcan having a nice time with my blind dog outside.
And then we are on the street corner, like fearing for our lives for a moment and fearing
for our friends' lives.
And I just it was so scary.
Okay, we got 12%.
No, we're making good time though.
We're almost at the end.
So this is where.

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Oh, so Olivia gives the international sign of distress for human trafficking in this one.
So that's that's pretty crazy.
Let's show that don't know what it is.
It's on video.
It's an international like you said international sign of distress or like, you know, you need
help usually related to trafficking or domestic violence.

(02:06:30):
It's your thumb under your four fingers and a fist like you make that signal.
And that means like don't listen to what I'm saying.
Yes, someone like help please.
Please someone listen.
Situation where my words cannot convey what's actually happening.
Someone help me.
And she does it like four times in this video.
Yep.
I only have until nine, nine, she's like, I don't even know if I'm doing it right.

(02:06:56):
But I'm trying.
I don't know what the rock paper scissors sign is.
If you know what I mean.
And so during that live, she also kept saying like, listen to cool and disabled.
She knows what she's talking about.
Listen to listen to Nicole.
She like she kept saying that.
But then she kept saying things that would contradict what Nicole was saying.

(02:07:19):
But she kept saying, listen to Nicole, listen to Nicole.
And everyone is calling Nicole fucking crazy.
So next to tick tock.
So I think this is when yet it started.
Oh, this is when I said the trafficking word.
And then Dante saying the word trafficking really, really triggered someone.
I assume the person doing the trafficking allegedly.

(02:07:41):
Because Olivia told us he was showing up at her house, dude.
In her phone.
Like what the fuck is that?
And like also from my perspective, like I had, I don't think we're going to watch all
these tick tocks, but one of the tick tocks I made about it in reference to what was happening
was essentially that like chains are not always visible.
And regardless, what is happening to her right now, like someone is controlling who she can

(02:08:03):
talk to, what she can say, where she can go.
And that she would literally have like designated phone time.
She would like text us and be like, okay, now I gotta go guys.
I'll talk to you next time.
Yeah, it wouldn't.
It was never like, oh, I gotta go to work.
I'll text you after work.
It was like, oh, my phone time's up.
And then during the time that I think it was like right after this or around this, we're

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on September 6th still right now.
That's when, shoot, I lost my train of thought.
It was Olivia on the iPad.
Yeah, cause she only had the designated phone time.
I think I lost my train.
It'll come back to me, but it was just a lot of weird shit happening that we knew about

(02:08:47):
from her.
Yeah.
Hey guys, in my opinion, this is what Roger is doing right now.
Yeah.
It's a picture of a website.
It's like, it's like the warning signs of someone being weird.
Look at this.
We've got a bunch of controlling tactics.
Wonder what we're going to find saying it because tick tock sucks.
Yes.
That weird.
Look at this.
We've got a bunch of controlling tactics.

(02:09:08):
Wonder what we're going to find.
Look at that isolation.
What does that say?
The person takes away the victim's phone, cuts off their social media access, holds
the victim in a fucking home with a camera and a monitoring system.
We are all currently sitting in fucking rush hour traffic in Los Angeles.

(02:09:31):
We're not going anywhere.
We are planted where we are.
And some of you that are sitting in traffic with me are like saying, no, roads are fine.
No one's out.
We got home quick.
No, you like you could literally be in here.
How frantic he sounds in this because we, that is what we felt.
I mean, like I said, I've been police in her hometown and they did fucking zero.

(02:09:54):
We had to like consult a domestic violence, like expert professional.
Oh yeah.
Shout out at love, not abuse on tick tock.
She is incredible.
We'll have her on sometime.
Jodie, we love her so much.
She provided not only us a lot of support during this because she knows how challenging
it is for victims to speak out.

(02:10:14):
And that like, you know, there's a lot of variables going on and, and a lot of different
external forces, you know, trying to control the situation.
And so she was really there for us, but also for Olivia.
I mean, she was really trying to help her through it.
And why I think that's really important too is because I don't think we showed any of

(02:10:34):
these tech talks here, but there was someone who swooped in throughout this and we'll talk
about, yeah, we'll go into that.
Cause that's like, that's, she's just a fed basically.
She's a fed, basically somebody who got, or was she convicted?
She was definitely arrested.
Probably.
No, she was convicted.
She was charged.
She was charged with human or kidnapping.
It was something with like, yeah, like kidnapping.

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It was all in the same vein of, and she swooped in was like, I'm, I'm Olivia's DV advocate.
You can't tell me anything.
And then she was in our DMs trying to feed us false information and trying to get us
to back off on certain things because she would come to us and say like, Olivia does
not want X, Y, Z. And it was just fed flags.

(02:11:16):
Oh yeah.
So then this is my Roger burner or something.
No, she's real.
She's real because we found her arrest.
Yeah.
All right.
So here is Nicole and Whitman.
This is, this is what I really was hitting.
You go through it.
I'm going through her.
We gotta figure out who that woman is.
Oh, we did.
We know who she is.

(02:11:37):
She blocked, she blocked us both.
Oh hell yeah.
She hasn't blocked you though.
You can, you can harass her a little bit.
No.
So what we did, why she, she didn't block us during the, I think she did at some point
and then unblocked us.
But then we came back.
This was like in October, actually.
This was like later, maybe November, but she had come back into the picture somehow talking
shit about us.
And we replied to the comment with her, her mugshot and her arrest and we're like, this

(02:12:02):
you, this you, so we know who she is.
She knows we know who she is.
Anyway, so Roger, this is me at my wit's end when I was getting called crazy and obsessive
and clout chaser and every other fucking crazy term.
What if I wanted to cloud chase, I would have done something way easier than this guys.
This was, I'd be like, Oh guys, capitalism's awesome.

(02:12:23):
Oh, I would just start riding the DNC's dick if I wanted to clout chase.
Like I have 8% left.
I just want to point that out.
And yeah, I'm going to do something normal right now because I truly can't handle any
of this anymore.
I've covered this almost solely for the last month, dedicated my entire life to it.

(02:12:47):
Everyone that has been here the entire time knows exactly what has happened.
I posted the timeline today.
It has all of the information.
You can go there, read everything for yourself and then decide what's happening.
We have laid out so clearly how this could be happening.
What could be happening?
What is happening?

(02:13:09):
What we know?
All we've conveyed this whole time is things that we know that are confirmed.
We know how Roger works.
I cannot believe that there are so many people falling victim to this.
Yeah.
For context, this was when, um, so then Dante, so Dante said that Olivia, the day before

(02:13:31):
on her live was saying, listen to cool and disabled.
This next day, she essentially says, these people are crazy.
Do not listen to them.
You know, had it sent a mob after me calling me every fucking awful name saying that I
was using a victim for clout, that I was doing, you know, whatever they were saying in my

(02:13:54):
comments and I was like, how are we falling for this obvious, like planted false narrative
again where it's like, Oh no, it's, it's these guys that are the bad guys.
These are the guys that did.
And it's like, it's like, you fucking lost the plot.
If you're mad at us, I'm trying to play the sound board, but right now it's not the sound

(02:14:17):
board in this app sucks.
It's cause we have like 5% battery.
Let's go go go go.
And so then basically what happens is, uh, we're lagging really bad right now because
we have no battery.
Oh no, we can't access my video.
Okay, stop.
Pause it and let it upload.
Stop it.
Well, it's uploaded.
It's just, I think my computer's literally just is like, is that 7% is running real.

(02:14:40):
It's a running on fuel.
Okay.
So we're going to wrap it up.
It's going to record this though.
It's going to be fine.
So basically what happens is Roger goes offline and we find out that the, or he's offline,
whatever.
And we find out that through a credible source that he's getting looked into the feds are
on him.
And honestly, he's probably a fed himself.
So they probably are just like, Roger, be a little easier about it.

(02:15:03):
But then, then the, uh, the last, the last tick tock that I want to show you guys is
on September 21st.
So we get like a two week break.
I don't even know if this is going to load.
Um, but do it, do it.
I don't think it's going to load, but Roger, it's like, Roger comes back.
We got him.
Oh yeah.
On Instagram, back on Instagram.
We got him off real quick.
Don't worry guys.
Yeah.

(02:15:23):
And then he, he left.
He thought he could sneak weird posts, dude.
It's like a swan.
Roger's up nice and early, I guess.
Posted on Instagram made four posts for come on.
So here's the first one.
Pretty unhinged.
Now this seems like the same post, but this is a different post.
Two separate posts.
And then this kind of looks like a, like a get out of the country box truck.

(02:15:45):
I don't know.
It seems like he's like trying to like flee in my opinion.
And then again, this is a separate post.
He posts the same exact truck from the same exact angle.
I don't, it doesn't make a lot of sense, but yeah, Roger makes a cryptic Instagram post
and then I haven't heard from him online.
There is one account out there.
We're not going to spoil it because we're not sure on it, but there is one account that

(02:16:06):
we, it looks and feels a lot like Roger.
I'll send it to you later.
It was like a Roger burner.
It feels like Roger doing a character.
Oh, the video.
It's, it's something's going on now.
Something's lagging.
So I think that means, you know, let's, let's wrap it up here.
I mean, that's all right here.
Here's my two one, a 24 predicts.
Wait, that story was fucking awesome.
First off, I love that.

(02:16:26):
Should we just do the predictions real quick?
Yeah.
I got some real fast.
World War three, Israel nukes Manhattan.
All banks are going to fail.
Elon Musk may be assassinated somehow, hopefully by like the Saudis or Russia.
I don't know.
Whoever, whoever's most mad at him.

(02:16:47):
And then I wrote, uh, do a couple of funny ones too, but I didn't, didn't write any funny
ones.
Okay.
Your turn.
Well, I'll start with some funny ones.
Uh, so I have Selena Gomez exposed for faking music streams.
Um, I have, I have a car heart.
Wait, wait, could we just do, could we do a new year's episode?

(02:17:08):
Uh, like a, cause this was the end of 2023.
We could do a whole, we could just do, we could do like a, like a short 30, 40.
Minute one where we just talk about our predictions.
Cause I do have much more beyond this list.
We have too many for my computer battery.
No, no, I'm just, I'm not hitting all of these.
I'm just hitting a couple.
I'm just saying it's a good idea.
Smash, smash a couple.
Cause this will be the one before the new year.

(02:17:28):
Yeah.
So car heart shortage, I think it's because it's a brand of the working people and some
influencer is going to really like try that out and it's going to suck.
Cause car are like, people are going to start reselling it anyway.
Um, I have Elon Musk bankrupt and charged with a federal crime.
So let's go.
Yeah.
And then I have Swifty revolution against Taylor.

(02:17:50):
Swiftie revolution against Taylor.
Dude, that's happening right now.
Yeah.
Let's go.
Um, and then I have, uh, I'll do two more.
I have more Ashton Kutcher crimes exposed and Mila leaves him.
And then, um, oh wait, actually, she kind of feels like, yeah, I think Mr. Beast is

(02:18:13):
going to be charged with a federal crime for, or just separate, uh, thing exposed for faking
views.
And then YouTube balance will be restored.
Cause I think he's kind of like gaming the system.
Like in like a fraud way.
Yeah.
Because he works.
Be still.
Shhh.
Allegedly, just in our opinion, we're goofballs.

(02:18:35):
We're goofers.
We're just silly.
We're joking.
This is all satire, including Netanyahu being charged with working.
Yeah, dude.
Yes.
That's all I want.
Okay.
We're going to go with all of yours and not my dark, like alternate universe, which we
probably will end up going into more.

(02:18:55):
But I hope, dude, yours feel like worst case scenario probabilities.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
We got through all the Roger TikToks.
I wanted to.
That's crazy.
That was so good.
This is like two hours and 20 minutes.
We got to call it like, yeah.
Next episode will be Roger Stravaganza.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Happy end of 2023.

(02:19:16):
It was a weird year.
We'll call it happy final new year.
Happy final new year.
Honestly, I have like these.
Palooza.
Yeah, dude.
I have these bleak predictions, but I'm honestly very, very, very hopeful for this year.
It's either we're going to, we're going to make it or it's over.
It's honestly kind of is not because like I'm.
Yeah, it's refreshing.

(02:19:37):
I'm ready for it to be over.
I just kind of need an answer at this point.
Like I would prefer that it's not done because like I think there's a lot we could still
do, but.
Dude, something's gotta happen.
Something's gotta change.
We can do so much cool stuff.
Yeah.
Yes.
So with that, I'll wrap it up there.
Thanks gang.
Thank you for listening or watching.
We're gonna.

(02:19:57):
Yeah.
Hello, alphabet agencies.
We'll be back.
Thanks for listening to my bullshit episode talking about Roger Clay and really hogging
the mic and we'll.
A lot of fun.
We're going to talk about Elon a lot soon.
We're going to talk about that one movie.
What was it called?
Oh, the left.
Oh, the world behind.
Yeah.
The one.

(02:20:18):
Oh, I want to do that.
That's going to be so good.
I've never seen Guantanamo Bay till a few nights ago.
It was a great movie.
Yeah.
So we're going to be talking about a lot of stuff soon.
So thank you for tuning in.
Got filled.
Got full.
All right.
And any anyone who said that we were a one episode podcast.

(02:20:38):
Get the fuck out of here.
You can suck.
We're two episode as a what's who said that?
Now what?
Uh, I forget.
What's her name?
Baby's or Spice.
Oh, I spice.
I spice.
I spice said that.
Yeah.
I'm getting so old.
OK, guys.
OK, this has been awesome.
Love you.
Thank you for staying.
Thanks for listening, Roger.

(02:20:58):
Hey, Roger.
Hey, Roger.
Hey, Roger.
Hey, Roger.
Hey, Roger and Peter and Austin.
We love you and Rick, my special agent, who's going to try and do bad things.
OK, bye.
What if it never stops?
Hey, guys, I'm going to talk until it's over.

(02:21:20):
I'm never going to stop talking because I'm here for the people.
OK, and I am.
I hope so.
Let's go.
Hey, no, but I need my pals because this is a three person podcast.
It's still going.
This is awesome.
What?
Dude, what do I actually want to say?

(02:21:41):
Holy shit.
Oh, I did write that Austin and Roger hopefully will be in prison.
That is a hopeful one.
We'll rail off a couple other ones while it's going.
It's never going to stop.
It does say recording.
Can I try and stop it?

(02:22:05):
I don't know how I would leave.
Everybody was going to be like, oh, see a one hit wonder.
But it's like now what to wonder like the.
We're sorry.

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