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March 15, 2024 55 mins

In this conversation, Dante, Nicole, and Corey discuss Ben Hart, a controversial figure who posted a tweet about his daughter that went viral. They explore Ben Hart's Twitter page, website, and background, speculating on his motives and connections. They also discuss the similarities between MLMs and cults, as well as the dangers of fundamentalist extremism. The conversation highlights the need for empathy, community, and normalcy in society.

The hosts also discuss recent events, including a powerful act of protest by Aaron Bushnell. They also discuss the downfall of Caleb Hammer, along with the stock performance of Luminar and the alleged financial history of Austin Russell.

Takeaways

  • Ben Hart's controversial tweet about his daughter went viral, attracting attention from Elon Musk and his fan base.
  • Ben Hart's Twitter page and website reveal his background in marketing and his association with political figures.
  • Speculation arises about Ben Hart's motives and possible connections to Peter Thiel.
  • The conversation delves into the similarities between MLMs and cults, emphasizing the importance of empathy and community in society.

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(00:00):
Oh, yeah, we can hear you. Oh, yeah, buddy. Oh, great. I hope everyone can hear us. This is officially the

(00:25):
I'll say it's the chillest episode of this podcast. This is going to be the chillest episode of this whole podcast.
We've had a lot going on. We're in our motherfucking jammies for our video broadcast. Listeners and watchers.
What's wrong? What's wrong? Boys, you down? Why are the boys down? We were sick and fucking bulky.

(00:49):
Yeah, it was like it went like my dog died and then we got covid and then and then like that guys the soldiers set himself on fire.
Oh, my God, dude. It's really embassy. And so like that's not a me thing. I'm not I'm not trying to claim that as part of my personal woes.
I'm just saying there's a lot going on right now. But how do you guys feel about that?

(01:13):
A lot of people have been asking me how I feel about it. And I'm not quite sure exactly how I feel about it yet. Besides that, I think that that person didn't well, he didn't hurt anyone else.
That takes conviction. And I mean, you know that it's like, I don't know, man, I truly don't know what to say because it's it's powerful and don't do it.

(01:40):
Depressing and don't fucking do it. Don't say anything. Say that. No, don't do it. Oh, yeah.
I mean, don't definitely don't the listeners for the watchers listeners.
It is the most extreme form of protest, but don't don't let anyone say, yeah, it's protest.
And it's not don't let it go on scene, but don't do it.

(02:01):
They'll try and walk, you know, say that he's mentally ill and stuff, but I'm not mentally ill.
It seems like it's a person who's just very convicted and is has had enough like a lot of us.
He was in the military and seeing it first hand something you couldn't say no.
Well, he's in the Air Force and worked in like DevOps or like software engineering.

(02:25):
And I don't know, I'd seen I'm not going to say this is confirmed or denied.
I saw it today. Haven't had a chance to look into it, but apparently he may or may not have had orders
to have been shipped out to Israel soon.
And so on top of already seen behind the scenes, what's going on the back end?

(02:46):
Like, you know, what kind of software like they're sharing between organizations when it comes to fucking
don't get me started on Palantir again. I can't talk about Peter Thiel right now.
Dude. Yeah. Yeah. Because the fucking helicopters, bro.
My thought. No, I'll just wrap up my thought on that because I do think it was a very, very powerful statement.

(03:09):
I'm glad that his full statement got read on like CNN because that is a very mainstream surprise right here.
I was I was surprised.
A lot of other networks left out his very clearly laid out reason for doing what he did.
He left no he left no place to be like filled in.

(03:30):
He said it. He said it all. And so you can look it up.
You can read it. There's a video. You can watch it.
All that being said, don't do it.
We're not saying everyone should go out there and do it and make a stand.
I'm saying that from his point of view, an active member of the U.S.
military that is firsthand seen and forcibly getting orders to participate in a genocide,

(03:56):
him taking a stand like that in such a public way was very profound to me.
Yeah, I'm not going to judge him. It's it's really been sitting very, very deeply.
Yeah. I mean, maybe we know what he knew, bro.
Yeah. Look, I'm not looking at this shit.
We fucking know exactly what he knows.

(04:16):
Crazy. It's yeah.
That's why it's like it's it's not it's not.
I'm so so saddened by it, but I'm just not surprised.
I thought you were talking about Ben Hunger.
Yeah, I thought it was a chill episode.
Dante was like, this is a fun episode.
Yeah, I was letting you guys know why.
No, I'm just kidding. Why is just pop and pop out there?

(04:38):
The shit is important.
It is like the people have had enough that everyone is fed up.
And you know what? That dude saw firsthand what they're doing.
And that was that was the choice he decided to make.
So take that for what it will.
Yeah, you will.
He'll. Ben Hart.

(05:00):
No, no, we'll take it. We'll take a left turn here.
Okay, Corey, do you want her? Sorry, Nidhadeinus.
Sir Nidhadeinus. Corey, we're also in our
cop Oakley's today, so we're also characters.
Chill. We're chill cops today.
Whatever that means doesn't exist, but we are them.
Yeah, the hammer posted a job or a job opening before we get into our.

(05:24):
Do we apply? What is the job?
I have it's like sexy assistant.
There's two. Corey actually sexy.
Corey, you should apply.
You should apply.
Was it like one of those?
One of them was script writing.
That was the remote one script writing for something.
I'll get chat GPT to write every script.

(05:45):
Well, no, don't worry. I got people.
I got people in places.
We were working on it.
We're kidding.
No, we're just kidding.
We would. I'm not kidding.
We're going to mess with you.
Can less comedy podcast.
I pranked you, Austin Russell today.
Yeah, that was a good job.
That was funny.
The Caleb thing, the other job was script writing.

(06:07):
And then but in part, you couldn't do the in person one.
I could.
The in person job was for like to run the vlog, which would be fucking awesome, dude.
Dude, I'm OK. I was trying to tell the watch where he was like, yeah, I was going to call that.
If Caleb, like if Caleb truly wanted to like break out of his like his his slog,
he would take on Dante.

(06:28):
He would. Yeah.
This is assuming Caleb isn't doing any like illegal weird shit, right?
No, this isn't the buddy movie version.
Buddy comedy where he's not a creep, but in real life, Caleb on his blog.
Yeah. And that that would go truly.
Fully mega viral, like if he just let me make the vlog about what actually goes on in that office, bro,

(06:52):
we got ideas.
I wanted. Yeah, I legitimately would do that for you.
I would do that for a month.
Caleb chance. Caleb, these guys have ideas.
Yeah, I have ideas.
They have good ideas.
They're funny, too.
There's no way that you watch Dante's videos about all the bad things you do and you don't crack a little smile while you.

(07:13):
I know you do.
I know you do because I'm laughing those DMS that he sent you initially.
I was so flattered.
He loves your videos.
And you know what?
Like I said, if Caleb wasn't a complete fucking freak creepo, I we may have had a frenemies arc.
I even said it like after we met him in person.

(07:35):
I was like, I want to believe him.
I haven't had, you know, haven't had a chance at that time to look into everything.
But I was like, I want to believe in the good of a human right now.
Maybe we could be frenemies.
And in the buddy comedy version, that's exactly what I'm imagining.
He lets us kind of just yeah.
Comment below.
New angle.
Tell me you got to tell me in the comments after you smash that like button.

(07:57):
But but for real, you got to comment below if you want to see the unedited,
unerred super secret Nicole at her breaking point before we met up with Caleb in person video.
She there's probably this does exist in a fucking rant.
I think it's like in your drafts right now.
Like I have it on my computer.

(08:18):
I have it on my computer.
It's ready to go live at any moment.
Just in case.
Just like every literally before before I knew anything already to go.
It was any moment.
All of my gripes with Caleb.
It was okay.
So here's just quick context.
And for our audio listeners, if you can't comment down below, you can like smash that review button and you want to see the unerred audio version on.

(08:44):
Cut version.
But yeah, so this this was after Dante made his initial video.
And so it was like I had just heard I was honestly just fucking annoyed with hearing what's awesome.
I never get reports.
On what the roadcaster?
Well, it's recording on something, right?
It's recording on on SoundCloud.

(09:05):
I don't even have an SD card in there.
Well, no Riverside will have some Riverside has everything.
Nicole keep talking.
I'll get the SD card.
And don't worry for the first minute.
I recorded both our mics mixed together.
So, okay.
So first 10 minutes of this is going to be a nice funky.
No, it's going to sound fine.
It'll be fine.

(09:26):
Here I'll add in.
We'll add in some.
I was like, why isn't it going?
It wasn't turning red.
And that was new.
Wait, wait.
Before I forget.
So this was yeah, Dante made his first video about Caleb Hammer.
I was really fucking annoyed with just hearing Caleb screeching on the TV all the time.
And like he was just kept getting recommended on YouTube then because Dante was like researching.

(09:51):
Sorry, the roadcasters recording now.
That's that's wonderful, baby.
And now it's going to sound really good.
Continue your story.
And yeah, I just went into this room and put the camera up and just started ranting
because I think I had like I had made Dante made that sounds like I was like, stop the video.

(10:13):
But I gently asked him politely.
I was like, hey, do we still do we think we can like wrap up the Caleb Hammer video?
Like, do we need to keep watching the videos?
Because I'm really I didn't say it like this.
I it was actually more like a full meltdown.
I was like, I can't listen to him scream anymore.

(10:33):
Holy shit. This is like driving me insane.
Please, please is what's the end point for this?
Yeah. But then, yeah, I accidentally think I predicted a bunch of things that came true.
So we kind of want to release that from the vault.
What someday?
Oh, not now. Maybe.
No, we don't have time.

(10:55):
Well, we're going on we're going on a little little vacay.
So we're going to chill because we're in chill mode today.
Yeah, no, we're chilling.
This is kind of like the yeah, when we went to Montana.
This is how I feel when the right after we talked to Caleb, then the Roger Clay break.
Yeah, yeah. Well, no, that's why something crazy is going to happen.
So yeah, when we get back, I'm fucking off for the week right now.

(11:18):
I the helicopter drama is coming then.
I'm yeah, then then shit can hit the fan right now.
I want to go select sit in the desert and look at the stars a little bit.
That's it. I pranked Austin Russell.
I wanted to talk about it real quick.
Tell us your story. So Luminar, Luminar Technologies,
maybe we could direct our attention to the screen if we want.

(11:41):
Let me direct. Let me get the we're getting the screen, the presentation out.
Oh, I'm sorry to my audio listeners.
I'll do my best to don't worry.
I told him before recording that I this was a real conversation.
I was like, hey, when you read things on the screen,
you have to read them in full for our fucking audio listeners.
Oh, my Yahoo Finance right now.

(12:02):
Sorry. Apologize for that. Yahoo Finance.
Laser that is Austin Russell's company, Luminar Technologies.
So so today they had an earnings call.
OK, oh, it's painful.
So yeah, leading up to their.
For those of you who who maybe aren't aware of what an earnings call is,
I'll explain it at a very high level is at three, four times a year.

(12:25):
Publicly traded companies have to disclose their earnings
and like their financial situation to the public. Right.
It's part of being on the stock market.
What you got to do? Just what you got to do.
Part of the game. Yeah.
And so the also known as so they had to do this four times a year,
also known as the four worst days of Austin Russell's year. Yeah.
Because he has to go out there as bold faced.

(12:47):
No idea what he's doing.
It is fucking hilarious.
They scream these. Yeah.
You got to get like a like a like a like a call.
You got to know where to look for the invite code, but I get the invite.
I get the invite code.
Do you record it?
We didn't this time.
We were. I literally have my laptop right there.

(13:08):
And then I was like folding laundry and then 45 minutes went by.
I was like, shit, the end of the call.
And I looked at the stock and it was down 12 percent.
How does he wait down from when?
So the start of the call.
So yes, leading up to earnings, it was like they were like optimistic.
So today it went up. It went up to just and.

(13:29):
Just tonight, it went down 10 percent.
Yes, dude, they just talked for hours.
That's only after hours.
Dude, they're dumping up.
Yeah, well, so it went up and then went down.
So we've all know we've watched this happen.
Babe, can I say something? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Sorry. I'm sorry for we've had lots for our audio listeners.
Well, I was going to say we've had lots of comments or say that we interrupt each other.

(13:51):
And so I know, but that's just also like how we all talk.
Like I know, but on FaceTime, we all do this, too.
And I know we I know I love our listeners and our listeners fucking not.
But are you going to watch the fucking show or not?
I'd like to talk. Sorry.
This is my talk time with my friends.
Yeah, they leading up to earnings.
This means that they like it went up 11.61 percent today before.

(14:13):
Four probably because of the like bot.
It was an imaginary. Yeah, it's well, it's just like Wall Street.
Dude, it's like Elon. It's what Elon does.
They just like artificially pump it right.
They use Tiktok or Twitter or whatever. Pump their shit.
They use their earnings call what?
And then and then immediately after they were like, OK, now's the time.
Let's pull it.
Dude, all of the politicians are pulling their shit, right?

(14:36):
Like they're doing it.
People are doing it right now from different.
Yeah, I've noticed some some weird movements from big players.
Nancy Pelosi, she dumped a whole bunch.
But also Luminar, fucking everyone.
This one, I do think there's big players in the background
keeping Luminar afloat because we've witnessed some rebounds that are like

(14:58):
there's neither due to lies or I don't know or rich people pumping.
But this one, this specific drop, I think we can directly attribute
to Austin Russell being a dumbass.
In my opinion.
Well, yeah, because Austin is the stupidest CEO on the planet.
I don't have the link.
I can't get onto the website because I don't even honestly know how I got

(15:21):
like get into my account normally.
It's on stock twits.
So for those of you who don't know, it's not open on my phone and find some.
You guys can use screen record.
Yeah, yeah, we'll throw it out.
Go find my stock twits.
So Corey won't be able to see right now, but that's OK.
No, we'll put them in in post.
I'll read. So stock to it.
I'll just explain stock twits for everybody.

(15:42):
So stock twits is like it's spun off, I think, of Twitter.
And so it's I think like Twitter, except like only hashtags.
You have like it's like a dollar sign or whatever.
So it's like dollar sign laser.
And so that's like the laser dollar sign.
It's kind of fun.
It's a fun website because everyone on there is completely brainwashed.

(16:03):
Capitalism brainwashed to its core.
And I just ship post.
It's so fun to ship post because it's really to assimilate there.
It's not hard.
You you can just go in.
Yeah, you you choose bullish or bearish.
Bullish is like I think the stocks good.
So you always choose bearish.
And that's the red one. Bad thumbs down.

(16:25):
Go make a fucking stock to its account and then throw a gift in there
and then just throw it on the laser board.
It's one of my favorite activities.
And so what did I do today, Nicole?
Let's find some of them from today.
So during earnings, after I saw that they were down and part of the earnings call was like
I only saw probably five minutes of it, but Austin Ross, it was near the end.
And he was really like fumbling through it, like a lot more ums and ahs than normal.

(16:49):
And I'm not here to make fun of his speech patterns.
But I think the and then you can and say that.
And so what I did is I post on StockTwist today.
I posted a few times.
There was the first one where I was.
It will before that I said, let's find your earlier.
I'm getting confident on this website because I know that.

(17:10):
Well, yeah, no, he he I'm scrolling through the entirety of Don.
Well, you know, I'm just seeing like, no, I just really have grown to be a menace.
Like you'll see this in post.
The viewers will be seeing this as I'm scrolling,
but I will read some out loud from today.

(17:31):
Now, the first one was good where I was like, I don't miss.
So we got, you know, the dollar sign stock ticker.
So we got dollar sign laser.
Can't wait to watch Austin fumble through earnings yet again.
I found out earnings were like today yesterday.
I was like, oh, he's going to fuck this one up for sure, dude.
It's exciting for us. It's very fun to watch.

(17:52):
And then we have you guys.
You guys always call me crazy,
but I really have never missed about Luminar and Austin bearish.
The bearish tag always gets me. Yeah.
Oh, actually, it's up one percent since your post.
So it was two twenty three. Now it's two twenty four.
Why did this 10 percent fall off happen?

(18:13):
It's just from what is him talking?
I honestly I think what it is, what really happened.
I like to say it's because Austin fumbled it.
What probably actually happened was like it was at two twenty four last night.
And so pumped up today and then I don't know.
And two dollars and twenty four cents.
Yeah. To be fair, Austin sold everything at the fucking top.

(18:35):
Yeah. What was it?
Yeah. What was it to start?
How much did it start at when it like first went on?
Well, I don't know what it started at or what was like the 37 37.
And so at 37, what he pulled a bunch of money.
I don't know if it was at 37.
Like it was definitely like he definitely had it like planned out where

(18:55):
he he like sold it over time.
How much has he taken?
It was at 37 and he probably averaged out.
This is I'm just guessing.
They probably averaged out at like 15, 20 bucks a share.
Is what he like? Well, it's not even just a joke.
It's just like I'm just speculating at like if he were to like dollar
cost average down. Yeah.
Sorry. I told Nicole that I'm going to be smarter on the Internet
because I'm not a fucking stupid person and people think people really treat us

(19:18):
like we're idiots. Yeah, I'm fucking smart.
Oh, dude. You're my cop.
You're so no, no, no.
You're so you never admit that, bro.
You want them to think you're dumb.
I'll cut that. Don't worry.
We're dumb. We're crazy.
I'm sorry. But yeah.
Oh, wait. I am. Fun fact.
This is another fun fact about when laser was at its peak about at that time.

(19:42):
Yeah, that 37 35, somewhere in that range.
So when Luminar stock was worth a lot more,
Austin Russell allegedly donated a whole bunch of it to a charity in Orlando.
Yeah.
They're allegedly internally.
There's been a lot of gripes and questions because no one's seen that money

(20:05):
or seen anything from that.
And I think it's because it's worth fucking nothing.
Yeah, there's a stock.
Yeah. Oh, my God.
And because I think they went public. That's a joke.
That's all a joke.
I think this is when they went public because they spacked, which is they
Peter Thiel spacked it, which is I don't want to get into what a spack is.
That's a different episode.

(20:26):
We'll break that down.
The spack company is a bunch of them spacked to go public during Covid
when everyone was scamming everyone.
Spack, dude. Everything is a scam.
And so Austin probably went up and he's here.
He saw it went up and he was he started selling.
He just trickle sold all the way down.
It was always like, no, no, no.
I believe I believe in Luminar.
I believe in the mission of light and we are.

(20:48):
Saving one trillion lives over 100 years and 100 million
dicks up my ass. I'm so sorry.
I don't know why I said that.
Does it say how much like he's taken out over time?
You can. Well, is it like 20 million or something?
We've looked at some.
We can do we can do a segment later.

(21:08):
Yeah. Well, we'll do a comment below if you want us to analyze
Austin Russell's financial history on broadcast.
We'll do that.
Let's do a voice analysis of his podcast to some time.
Yeah. No, I was I was going to say we could do the full Austin Russell
deep dive in an episode soon.
And then but while we're doing that, like I'll have a PowerPoint or something.

(21:29):
And then you'll also be looking at like recent financial transactions.
That's when I'll do it.
You'll do the PowerPoint and I'll interject. OK, cool. So. Perfect.
Comment down below.
So we haven't even said what I how I pranked Austin.
I. Oh, yeah. I pranked his bitch ass.
OK, so during.
This is because Dante,

(21:51):
it's funny because I I have I still call it parasocially
his arch nemesis because it really is a joke that like it's.
But I know that also knows.
But at the same now at this point, like we do.
I called this like too many confirmations now.
Manager, we know that he knows what we're up to anyway.
But it's funny because it's all jokes and this is a comedy podcast.

(22:13):
But what Dante joked today on the laser board.
So once again, this on stock twits.
So this is only people it's on the laser stock was this is
it's probably 30 people. It's more than that.
Only like investors in Luminar.
And like or like red people,

(22:34):
bro's finance, bros that are like trying to find the next like stock.
Only people who know about this company. Right.
So it's a very target, very niche audience.
This is why I think, you know, this is this is the future of social.
You just got to know it. You just got to be everywhere.
That's what people get mad at, like the tick tock algorithm, which I get it.
It's fucking annoying.

(22:54):
Fuck the tick tock algorithm. Go. I am.
You just yeah, I have my own algorithm across the entire Internet
because I'm on.
We're on stock twits causing a ruckus to a very niche audience.
Anyway, what Dante said?
Um, I don't condone I don't condone this. It's all a joke.
So Dante said once again, dollar sign laser.

(23:17):
Am I crazy or does this sound exactly like Austin Russell?
And then what Dante did was he included a link to an unlisted YouTube video.
And this is still a video you can only find if you
are logged into Dante's YouTube account or if you see this post on stock twits.
But it's a YouTube video, the one that we showed

(23:40):
in the last episode with corndog that we put in in post.
I don't think we watched it while we were recording.
But our viewers, listeners, let's run it back.
Oh, we can't we don't have audio this video.
But yet the voice comparison of Austin Russell at the Forbes event
and that third rail podcast that contains the Nazi shit. Yeah.

(24:02):
In my opinion, sounds exactly like him.
Yeah, in our opinion, sounds and we posted that and it got well.
Well, what was sorry, you got three whole likes. It's crazy. On what?
You're you're my stock to it.
Yeah. But how many views did it get?
That's what I'm saying.
Why would he say not see stuff?
Me or Austin?

(24:24):
No. Oh, wait, were you saying Nazi stuff, Dante? Yeah.
No, no, no.
I'm saying why would it?
Why would Austin say stuff that sounds kind of Nazi ish?
Why would it be 118 views?
Well, I think it may be because he's a Nazi related to and is himself.

(24:48):
No, it's because it's a Nazi.
But that's our opinion.
Work. Isn't he like a contractor or something for the U.S.
government, like the defense department?
I'm not going to say that's true.
What is it? We're not going to technically claim that true.
No, it's like a glider.
No, no, that's that's a little dangerous conspiracy.
No, no, no.
No, you don't get it. Wait, listen.

(25:09):
Luminar just makes lidar sensors for cars.
It's the future of road technology to save a trillion billion lives.
Who is giving this man money?
Thousand years on a million miles of road.
It's just money from Peter Thiel, right?
Yeah. Not and.
Oh, and a Russian oligarch.
Say, yeah, but he's he's on the Russian.

(25:30):
That feels like it's a Russian rich guys.
It feels like it's like maybe they're old money.
This law is going to be anyway.
No, no, yeah. I don't want to get too off because I do want to talk about
Madeline Hart's father. Yeah.
It's a real name. Madeline.
I know. I know. Hello. I know. I know.
Hort. Yeah, we're not normal.
Anyway, we know we're having a chill episode.

(25:53):
We're chill today.
One hundred and eighteen views.
That's really funny because one hundred and eighteen.
It's not a public video.
That's the only thing in one spot on stock to it.
It's it's the only place you can find it.
And so it's got three legs.
It's very three people.
Oh, that's got my best like to dislike ratio.
Fucking here's a segue for you.

(26:16):
I'm ready to segue.
Oh, yeah. Perfect segue.
Because beautiful.
That is a speaking of like to dislike ratios looking real bad on your recent
video about the break dancing deadbeat dad.
Yeah. Versus his reasonable but liberal daughter.
And we're not going to catch people up.
Otherwise known as Maddie Hart on TikTok.

(26:37):
It is objectively hilarious to be a father and then to your family.
It's a break dance.
That's funny as fuck, dude.
It's tragic and there's trauma.
And that's the whole point of the video.
That was the whole point of Maddie's video.
Whatever. It's like we got to laugh through some of the trauma to stay sane in this world.
Well, OK, I think that my video was like, you know, it's my my style.

(26:59):
It might be a little, you know, over the top sometimes.
Well, he's goofing and gaffing, goofing and gaffing, strictly goofing and gaffing.
And goofing, gaffing, living and laughing.
Well, so I noticed this video, I've deleted some comments now
because the number one thing you can do is fucking block, block someone if they're annoying.
Oh, yeah.
Fucking time for a forest break, forced break from the comments.

(27:20):
Yeah. And Dante taught me that one.
And I love it. It's called a forced break.
And so I just give lots of people force breaks from my content.
And sometimes that's it. That's all they need.
Yeah, they just need to just need to be blocked.
So this if you direct your attention to the screen,
this has 218 comments on a fucking 10 minute YouTube.
Let's go. And it's got 30.

(27:43):
So it's got it. You might you might look at the views and say, wow,
he says 2.6 thousand views on YouTube. That's amazing.
That's so many views.
Yeah. And he's got 34 likes.
You know how many dislikes this has?
Over 100. And it's that is incredible.
And it is it is, dude, I've given up.
I've never seen so many divorced dads in one place.

(28:05):
Two hundred and eighteen fucking comments.
Push that engagement, you little user comments.
Miss, I love my comments.
Oh, I love them.
Somebody thought that Alex Novell was trolling.
Like his comment was like,
so our friend Alex Novell is a friend of the show.
So Benny Hanna, so Benny Hanna is the name of the break dancing dad.

(28:28):
And what I said in the video is I called him a deadbeat dad.
That's basically what I did.
Rude. Right. That's at its core.
I called him a deadbeat dad and said that Maddie, who is the girl, his daughter,
I was like, she seems normal.
And so they they attacked me in my comments.
And so the only the only comment besides maybe you guys
that wasn't attacking me, friend of the show, Alex Novell fellow

(28:51):
fellow creator, he said, dude, he's so good.
Dancing dad's name is Benny Hanna.
He said Benny Hanna dance at my child's birthday party
when he did the headspin movie, kicked several children and they were flying.
The day my kid cries when it sees break dancers.
Like it's an it's so funny.
And I was I like the comment.
I'm like, that's my that's my fucking guy, dude.

(29:12):
He commented in one of these comments and his name is Pepe Pig.
If again, wonder where that comes from.
He said, oh, you told him and got a like from like he was replying.
Replying to Alex. Sorry, I stuttered.
He's got a he was replying to Alex.
So that's the vibe, the comment section.
A lot of them are calling me since saying that like, oh,
who saw the comment she did?

(29:34):
She actually saw the video.
I think she saw the YouTube video.
She definitely saw that is so she commented.
And she was like she she was like, dude, you guys got to be or not.
You guys the people agreeing with it.
Yeah. Right. Like the deadbeat.
Those are all dad.
And they're all dad.
Well, why do you say that?
I found some shit out about this Benny Hanna guy.

(29:56):
I was going to say it wouldn't be I wouldn't pass.
Put it past Benny Hanna to have like a scammy marketing.
About our brother. Yeah.
So and he's got Elon on his side.
Yeah. You tell the whole story.
This is yours. That's where this gets weird.
Yeah. I got a.
Dude, they hang out in the same circles, I'm sure.

(30:17):
Outside show cheese.
I wanted to show
where the traffic was coming from.
Like so when you get so like this video is like for my channel.
One hundred views. Let's go.
It's performing well for my small little shitty channel, you know.
But I'm like, but when you get so much so many dislikes and so much hate.

(30:39):
All right. What am I doing wrong?
I'm open to criticism. Right.
Oh, and I will say this did like
look at that nine, you know, we put one hours.
Oh, and we put up a front.
Let me let me just say this, because I don't know if Dante will.
We put up a front and most of the time, I will say 97% of the time
we genuinely can laugh at it all.

(31:00):
But I will say it did get to Dante for a second because it was a flood of
allegedly divorced dad downvoting the shit out of this.
Do you know why all the content, dude?
It's all it was OK. It's gotten better now.
It's more balanced.
But like when it was first happened, when the when the

(31:21):
the hate first started coming at once.
Well, it's just kind of it's been trickling in.
But it was like there was a day or two where it was just like incel, incel, incel, incel,
incel, incel, the force that force that force that force that.
And when I was looking because like on on YouTube, you can actually see
like it'll show you videos that your video is being recommended on.

(31:42):
Yeah. So like this one right here,
Pookie for our audio listeners, picky woman gets rejected by man.
Like, let's open it real quick and just see what it feels like.
Yeah, it's this stupid like we already know what this video is.
He's going to just be somehow dunking on them.
Misogynistic. Misogynistic.
Women be weird.

(32:04):
Be weird in it like one of the women get old compilation.
It was like there was an entire row of them that was it was they were all
like like a voice reading Reddit threads of like Red Pill content.
And so I was like, oh, these fucking dickheads don't like my video.

(32:24):
That's awesome.
I don't want you to like my video.
Well, and the reason for that, it makes sense when you realize
how it started trending online, like the the trajectory of it,
because what happened is that Maddie's video went viral on TikTok first.
And so everyone on TikTok saw Maddie's side, which really

(32:45):
she wasn't even being that fucking mean.
She was being really nice to her deadbeat dad.
Like I would have been meaner probably.
And she was laughing it off.
Like she was being pretty gentle.
But that went viral first.
And then her dad posted like
it was the first one was the second one was 30 minutes.
The first one was also pretty long, like at least 15.

(33:07):
I don't know if it was also 20, 30.
I'm going to say at least 15.
So Ben Hart, Maddie's father, Benny Hanna,
he posts videos on Twitter,
X dot com, land of the free and Nazis.
Elon Musk for real. Yeah.

(33:29):
Anyway, so he posted it there where Elon Musk replied,
and it kind of went viral with the Musk fan boys.
So you can imagine why like that crowd.
I mean, he's just he's just got to be an Elon like fuck boy, right?
He's just a Twitter blue person.
Look, he's not wearing a Bitcoin shirt all the time, dude.

(33:51):
And it says his his here's his Twitter page.
It's Ben and Wanda Hart.
That's his. And I don't want to point anything out here.
But no, that is what this guy is doing.
And I get it's everything that he said, too,
because he's really following the fucking you forgot.
And the forest libertarian.
And yeah, right.

(34:12):
And so here's here's his bio.
Here's his bio on X dot com, formerly known as Twitter.
Rest in peace. Hashtag Bitcoin Bitcoin emoji explainer.
Freedom maximalist.
World's oldest actively competing break dancer.
And then in parentheses, 65, bro, someone who says that says like,

(34:34):
it's actually hebephilia.
One million or a billion percent.
He's like, well, there's a difference when they're around 15, 16.
It's different. It's different.
Where our brain chemistry is wired that way.
Challenging the narrative. I follow back.
Take that lie out of your fucking bio, Ben and Wanda Hart,
because you don't follow that you haven't followed back Ben and Wanda.

(34:58):
Wait, dude, this is so embarrassing that he's like,
Larry, OK, so can we read this to you?
He's a strange daughter, not even his real daughter.
This tweet. That's what's so insane to me.
It's crazy, dude.
The concept of just like going on Twitter to dunk on your daughter
like is that's an insane concept to me already.

(35:21):
And then he's like leaning in like he thinks he is.
Cool. Dude, this man has also actively at some point lied to people
and said that he was Moby to try and get something.
I guarantee you he one million percent.
This dude's a. Can I read a couple of his tweets?
My I'm filming at the mouth to read.

(35:42):
Yeah, so he says, Elon.
So for for historical context, let me find the tweet.
When it happened, his original tweet was, I wake up at 6 a.m.
to find and mind you, Matt, I keep giving context because I'm I need to.
Context is so required because like important.
His daughter just made a video laughing about the fact that he abandoned

(36:06):
their family and then he broke in the nose. That was true.
And then he went and got really good at breakdancing, which is also true.
And so his tweet gave credit where credit was due.
He was like, he's good. Right.
And so he tweets, I wake up at 6 a.m.
to find that my daughter has posted a tick tock video trashing me.
She's a big social media influencer with millions of followers.

(36:27):
Here it is. And Trashin isn't just saying he has seventy seven thousand.
Just doesn't have millions of followers.
Just saying what you did is not like putting you on blast, bro.
That's just saying the truth.
Oh, yeah, there's no way people are going to side with him.
And then who sides, you know, what kind of fucking king of the deadbeat
dad's Elon God damn Musk, he says, dude, you are awesome.

(36:49):
You know, I should do better.
Heart's giving he's giving Roger Clay, who also has.
Oh, do you want to say, I bet they all know each other's website now.
So we get an idea of what this guy's like.
No, this is a joke that I have already written, babe.
Oh, you're Roger Clay joke. We can just get into it right now.
Oh, go ahead. I didn't even know I did a segue.
Great segue.
So I looked up a little bit about Benny Hanna, our guy, Benny Hanna.

(37:12):
And no, not Luminar.
We'll look like I love Tesla and Bitcoin.
Heart, it's Ben Hart.
Did he take the website down?
Oh, no, but I didn't type it on marketing.com.
This is his website.
You're about to be like, he's got to do it.
He's got to be CIA.

(37:32):
He's got and he had to have known we're recording this episode.
So I just.
Rules, honestly, this is like him a lot more.
And so when I saw this right here, I was.
And so when I saw the.
He's like the way the website really quick, Dante. Sorry.
It's like it feels like a for audio listeners.
It feels like a mid 2000s

(37:56):
personal. Yeah.
Oh, this is a total custom personal website.
So it's it's been hard marketing dot com.
Build your business bigger, faster and more easily through better marketing.
And your email here, if you'd like to stay in touch, not a fucking chance.
Well, can I just describe the header?
Our audio listeners, the header on the website.
So it says Ben Hart Marketing Dotcom, and there's a picture of a sunset

(38:19):
over the water and then half half of Ben's face is also a sun over the horizon.
Like, you know, you know, he was like, look at my header.
Yeah, the Teletubbies, baby son.
Look at my. Why'd you say?
Header.
Oh, Tubby's Hill.

(38:40):
Yeah, I know he's like the Teletubbies son coming up over the horizon.
Hey, I'm just saying if you're right about that, if that's what he's emulating,
it tracks it tracks.
No, I think if you want my real opinion here, you want my my.
I bet they're all.
He just was like, that is some good.
No, no. And it was like, that's funny.

(39:01):
That's good.
It's just a Bitcoin.
What do you think it is?
It's just a Bitcoin shirt.
Oh, Rogers. What is that?
What is that? Oh, that the same shit.
It's on Roger Clay's.
Yeah, on Roger Clay's YouTube channel.
It's got the same the same weird thing with his eyes.

(39:24):
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Let's get cute on.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
What do you want?
I don't know.
Wait, show me the thing on his eye.
No, not Rogers. Ben's.
Well, there's nothing on their eyes.
It's both.
No, it's just I don't know.
It's just like here in my eyes.
It's just like it's purely based on.

(39:45):
There's nothing.
They're both based.
Dude, they give notes.
Just that glasses on.
That'll be sick.
Anyway, so what is up with his eye?
Roger. Yeah.
What is wrong with his eye?
Look at his eyes.
Oh, it's from him.
Photoshopping, right?
Yeah.
Oh, and I was also going to say, I mean, we know he gets plastic surgery.

(40:09):
And then I also think he's probably it's probably AI or something.
Yeah, right.
I don't know.
I have a whole segment on his channel plans.
So don't worry, guys.
We'll go through.
It's like he has like a back of the back of the back over half of his eye.
It's weird.
So it looks kind of like the AI just didn't really know that skin

(40:30):
and doesn't go on the white parts of eyes.
I'm not sure.
It's fine. It's best.
Or Roger's eyes are fucked up.
Yeah, possible.
Well, I think he got the skin flaps removed.
That sounds right. So back to Benhart marketing dot com.
I only said the Roger thing to I didn't mean to derail us.
I just meant he was just really like he's like doubling quadrupling.

(40:52):
Oh, shit. Timing down.
They don't see that this was where it's from.
My chick will wake up.
How dare he?
No, someone called that out in a different episode.
And it's like, sorry.
I'll tell a cop.
That's my well, I can't not eat chick.
I did. I'm sorry.
It is the I'm trying.

(41:13):
Everyone's trying their best, guys.
I'm not a people where they are.
I mean, a chicken sandwich that rivals it.
It's it's the best.
It's the best chicken sandwich.
If you're a white guy, I'm being real.
All right, Dante fucked up.
Back to Benhart marketing dot com.
Cut that out. Cut that out.
Cut that out.
So it seems like, OK, so what I will say is, Ben, I'm sorry.

(41:34):
You might have made a little bit of money in like scam marketing back in the mid 2000.
I'm sorry that I called you poor.
He probably is poor now because he lost all his money in Bitcoin somehow.
I'm convinced they all are broke as fuck.
Probably. I mean, they're all just I'm not going to judge a man's house,
but it just didn't seem like he had millions of dollars
be slanging around on Alamo.

(41:54):
They're all like chasing, you know, everyone kind of lives above their means,
but especially these kind of guys.
So that's how you get roped into doing weird shit.
The books that he's written are like it's called like the Internet money explosion.
Baw, blockbuster sales letters, automatic marketing, direct mail marketing.

(42:15):
So he just did like weird scams and shit.
But if you go to the about section, this is the fun part.
So it says that Ben Hart is about Ben Hart.
There's a fun photo of him skiing in 1976 on the side here.
But this is about Ben Hart.
And so this says Ben Hart's letters, ads and websites have generated more than six.

(42:35):
Is that say 600 million?
Six million dollars in sales.
Me too, brother.
I've had over 600.
And well, Maddie has millions of tick tocks.
Well, yeah, we know how he likes to add a lot of zeros to things.
So I don't know how much I trust in sales, donations and membership fees
during his 23 years in the business.
Ben's books on marketing include the four that I just read off.

(42:57):
I'm not doing it again.
He OK, so this is a weird part.
Ben graduated in 1982, cum laude from Dartmouth College.
Number one, weird that, you know, I don't know what my I was in college.
Cum laude.
Don't remember.
Come out.
When I hear Dartmouth, I feel like that like.
I don't know, Dartmouth feels weird.
That was like a was not there was some political shit that came out

(43:21):
like Dinesh D'Souza or something.
I don't know all the historians on that, but weird.
He's a weird he was like a political prisoner, I think.
Yeah, some some with that.
Some would fill us in.
But so Dartmouth's weird place to go to college.
Sorry to our Dartmouth listeners.
No, no, no.
So he majored in English literature.
No, no, no, listen, he actually does have a weird parallel.

(43:42):
And I think I will draw the connection really quickly.
So he wrote his first book, Poisoned Ivy, during his senior year,
which was a bestseller when it was published by Stein and Day in 1984.
Poisoned Ivy was the first book to identify the, quote, unquote,
political correctness problem that infects academia.
Does it sound like anybody that we know?

(44:02):
They're exhausting.
Yeah. OK.
So he's he's been doing this shit for a minute, dude.
So I respect the griff.
All every single person on the Internet, no matter what, they're all friends
and they're all part of this weird thing.
Except us, we're the only ones that are normal.

(44:24):
Everyone else. Oh, brother, just wait.
It gets worse. It gets worse.
Poison Ivy received excellent reviews and was featured on the front page
of the Washington Post style section.
Ben went on to write a second book, Faith and Freedom,
The Christian Roots of American Liberty.
Oh, that was published in 1988.

(44:44):
Arrest this man.
A history book that makes that made though. Just wait, dude.
That makes the case that America's political traditions
and institutions have their origins in Judaism and Christianity.
Speaking of Christianity, it's a Chick-fil-A water break.

(45:05):
Yeah, this is the Benny Hanna episode.
I'm drinking Chick-fil-A water.
I didn't even pay for it.
That's true. Water, exactly.
You can't tell me that I ate Chick-fil-A and paid for it
because I only have a lot of so much plausible that I have ability here.
Sorry. OK.
So the book definitively refutes the notion advanced
by the American Civil Liberties Union that religious faith threatens civil liberty.

(45:29):
The book shows whatever it shows.
And then this is my favorite part.
Hart has written speeches for many famous political figures.
He worked on President Ronald Reagan's 1984
re-election campaign and George H.W. Bush's 1988 campaign for the presidency.
OK. Good night.
You can't make this shit up, brother.

(45:50):
Dude, dude. And then, dude, true and true and on had an episode today
that's about this thing called like the octopus story that I need to watch
because I think it just dropped on Netflix.
But, bro, it's like the FBI was going through
Native American reservations and stealing fucking software

(46:12):
that was like spy software.
Like all these people are the same people.
It's all the same thing.
Everything is. They're all the fucking same bullshit.
You want to really fucking lose your brain?
No, at the heart of it, it's like a Roger Stone.
He's like a computer guy, right?
He's like, you know, they're all just like, oh, my God.

(46:33):
Hey, at the heart of it, you know what it is, is that capitalism truly
at the end of the day, it rewards bozos,
those who can forego all empathy and pursue
an endless monetary gain selfishly.
And most fucking normal people can't do that.
And so that's why.

(46:55):
You want to hear where it gets a little bit crazier?
So I said he wrote speeches for like Ronald Reagan and George H.W.
Yeah, like war criminals.
So he's CIA, obviously, right?
Yeah, probably. That's kind of what it's giving.
Yeah, and he's like a Bitcoin loving libertarian guy.
This guy is a Psyop and a half.
We're not saying, I'm not going to say anything else.
So can I read this one thing?

(47:17):
He has Peter Thiel written all over.
No, can I? He's a bold boy.
That on purpose? No, he's a tealer.
I'm nailing the segues.
He is a blood boy.
Can I read this for you, Dante?
Blood boy confirmed.
Ben was one of the founders of the Dartmouth Review
and he was a student at Dartmouth.

(47:39):
Who else started the review?
The Stanford Review, dude, around like this.
Around like the same time, dude.
Are you fucking kidding me?
Hello, I have a message for our viewers and listeners.
If anyone can get me proof that Peter Thiel and Ben Hart
are fucking homies, please send it my way.
It's media at hotgirlshavehobbies.com.

(48:01):
Please send it. Arrest that man.
Stanford Review, this says it was founded in 1980.
And also arrest these men.
I don't think they're into hoots, but I wouldn't be surprised
if they have met. They've definitely crossed paths.
Does it say director for the Heritage Foundation?
Shut the fuck up.
Director for lectures and seminars in the Heritage Foundation.
Arrest this man.
This was like in the 80s.

(48:23):
But still! What is he doing nowadays?
What do you think he's doing right now?
He's a PSYOP. He's a fucking PSYOP.
Heritage. Oh my God.
He's, dude, he's another Roger Clay.
100%.
Dude, we're too good at nailing these people.
We got the Fed detector.
It's like beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep.
Oh wait, not that. Sorry.
Alright, in post we'll put a Fed flag.

(48:45):
Fed flag.
Alright, officially, wait, on the, sorry,
we're interrupting each other, but on the Fed board now,
Ben Hart is a Fed, dude.
He's a fucking, he's on there with Mr. Beast,
he's on there with Roger, he's on there with Austin,
fucking Feddy Hart.
Our Fed sniffers are too good.
Ben.
We are definitely getting killed.

(49:07):
Ben, you smell like a Fed.
You smell like a Fed.
Well, well, when I look up,
I'm on the Heritage Foundation website now.
Um, yeah, no, Ben Hart.
Unless there's another Ben Hart
on the Heritage, this is on the Heritage.org.
This is a motherfucking Federal Fed.
If I've ever seen a federal hog,

(49:29):
I don't know, guys, Austin Russell's fucked
and Ben Hart is a Fed.
Daddy, I'm sorry that your dad's a Fed.
You're welcome on the show anytime.
Everyone's a fucking Fed, bro.
Yeah, but she commented on your TikTok.
Yeah, it's not unheard of. She could come on the show.
Bro, okay, is his, what about his daughter?
Hold on, hold on, hold on. Is the thing with his daughter
a Psyop? I'm gonna ask it.

(49:51):
I, okay, so I entertain that.
Do we believe her? She's a Hollywood elite.
Wait, no, so listen, listen, listen.
I did actually say that out loud at some point
because when we, we do our research,
and so when we saw that he had this marketing website,
I did, I said out loud, I said,
do we think that it's possible
that they aren't on bad terms
and that this is a big marketing stunt?
And then we went back and looked at the progression,

(50:13):
like I said, of when things went viral.
It, no, it's, I think Maddie,
that is her estranged father.
We just gotta ask, we gotta ask.
Yeah, yeah, no, I think it's very unlikely.
I think Maddie seems like a pretty normal.
It'd be a weird marketing stunt.
She got a lot of hate. I don't know her.
Well, cause she went, like, she went private on TikTok.
She, I don't know, the way she normally posts on TikTok, too,

(50:37):
she doesn't seem like she's trying to accomplish
any sort of similar goal.
She's trying to be a stand up, like she's a stand up comedian.
She's like, yeah, a comedy writer, and that's awesome.
I need to look more into this, dude.
Fucking same. Comedy's good.
Is he, is he, like, posting all the time like Roger?
He's just a Twitter guy. Oh, on Twitter.
Yeah, he's just a Twitter guy.
I just think he's more of a sad divorced dad.

(50:59):
He just did on TikTok just to shit on his daughter?
I heard that she made a TikTok about it.
And that that that fucked with his narcissism, you know?
Did he, like, send a bunch of people to send to give her hate about it?
He didn't directly do it. But by doing what he did,
absolutely, fucking, lutely.
And they also, he also sent them to Dante's video.
Oh, you know what I was going to say, too?

(51:21):
So this is kind of just the equivalent of, you know, like, like, kind of.
I don't want to generalize, but it's like kind of like sad, like middle age,
a little lost. You think you're you're choosing your own destiny
and you accidentally like join an MLM, like that kind of vibe for women.

(51:42):
The crypto divorced dad that is boy.
That's boy MLM crypto.
Listen up, fucking listen up.
It really is crypto is boy MLM.
If people will not fucking open their eyes.
Peter Teal literally invented this shit under an alias.
It's Peter Teal and Elon Musk in the mix somewhere.

(52:03):
And that's not a crazy person thing to say.
Dude, Satoshi or whatever the fuck his name is, is Peter Teal and Elon Musk.
They're doing the same shit they did with like QAnon.
They're just they plant stupid little fuckers.
They love playing this game. It's the same thing every time.
And so, yeah, boys are getting boys are getting caught in MLMs.

(52:25):
That's really embarrassing.
They're not even selling hair care. It's like I don't even fake fake money.
I feel like that's what's going on with the Mormons, too,
because it's like very cult like and they but they're all so bought in.
They can't not buy out.
Oh, the camera died. Oh, oh, oh, hold on.
I was going to say we're like, oh, anyway, yeah, we can stop it up.
And we'll just switch to this camera. Yeah, yeah, that's great.

(52:49):
That was basically it. Was there anything else?
We could just finish. No, there was nothing.
I was kind of done. I was just kind of done.
What were you going to say about Mormons?
I was just saying, I feel like Mormonism is kind of like reaching the same thing.
It's like the MLM of it's like a cult cult.
It's a cult. And I know it like, yeah, yeah, it's I'm sorry.

(53:10):
But like the Mormon people have you guys have to stop.
You have to you have to recognize that it's a cult.
It's a cult. It's a cult.
It's hurting everyone around us.
Yeah, it's sad because it's like, yeah, cults when they get to a certain amount.
Think about how much you let them do.

(53:31):
You forgive them and forgive them and forgive them.
And the same people, right, the same people, they keep doing horrific shit.
And then you forgive them and then they do it again and you forgive them.
It's the same people. It's all the people at the top.
It's all the it's all the men like, come on, guys.
It's a control cult. It's a cult of power and control.

(53:53):
Yeah. When the whole thing's based in, yeah, unconditionally forgiving
the creepy evil men at the top, that's the fucking problem.
Like you're saying, because that's your next year.
It's sad. You're guilty into supporting forgiveness over and over for people.
I thought we were chilling out. I'm sorry.

(54:15):
I just got to say, I just got to say, don't join a cult.
We don't have to be a cult to like have community and love.
Like we can all be friends.
You don't have to all be like we don't have to do a white America.
Please, God, please don't make us do white America.
I don't want that. No, it will suck.
The music will suck. The art will suck.

(54:37):
The food is going to suck, dude. Oh, my fucking God.
Yeah, don't. Yeah, please. Please, God.
Yeah, we don't need white America.
Like all normal Mormons, you have to stand up.
You have to get them. You have to get everyone to stop because it's it's hurting us.
We all got to just be a lot more normal. We all got to chill.

(54:58):
OK, that's it. We got to fucking chill.
Don't be a fundamentalist. Chill, please.
No more fundamentalist extremism. Knock it off.
If your parents are doing bad stuff, you have to say you have to tell.
OK, dude, it's all connected.
Everything is fucking connected.
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