MOLOMBO says the future is...COMMUNISM?!

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FBI open up!
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I think it's working.
It says record now, but it didn't for a second.
Okay. Well we already clapped, so...
Hello, Alphabet Agencies.
Welcome back.
We have a guest today. Yes we do.
That's different.
We have Malumbo. Malumbo is the

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first guest ever
on Hello Alphabet Agencies.
Currently he is the last
guest. First and last guest
until the feds might shut us down.
So I will
give Malumbo
a chance to tell us a little about himself.
What's good everybody?
Yo yo yo yo yo. Malumbo here.
AKA Black Halle Berry.

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AKA Frank Sinatra III.
AKA Ochimu the BBC.
AKA Communist Kid Cudi.
AKA, AKA, AKA.
I'm loved by AKAs.
To all Communists who are listening,
I'm also known as the Great White Pope.
If you know, you know. What's good y'all?
What's good y'all for not talking
Communist? If we're not talking Communism,
then we're not really talking about this. Good.

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Thanks for having me on guys.
Woo! Did you like the
the patriotic music?
Did that come through for everyone?
I loved it. We got the soundboard
cooking today. It's a good day.
We tried to do the soundboard
before and it would randomly work
because we were using Riverside to do this
and Riverside, if I'm being completely
honest, is dog shit. Yeah, no promo

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for that. The soundboard didn't work.
Yeah, so we figured that out today
and so now we have, she said she might
go a little off the rails. Yeah, no.
I apologize in advance if there's
an abundance of sound effects. I'm really
excited that it's working today.
But I did, in
preparation for Malumbo,
I did grab a couple
sound bites that we'll throw in today

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from the Jubilee video that
he was recently a part of.
So we'll just throw
a couple of these up. I think you'll like
these.
Hannah, Hannah, Hannah, and then you're gonna try to say it's too spicy
for me. No, I got you.
No, I got you. And I know we're gonna
talk, we're gonna talk a lot about this video
I'm sure, but this was, I think this was my
favorite, one of your favorite, or

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my favorite lines of yours Malumbo.
Our dollar doesn't mean f**king s**t. Our dollar
does mean something. And the way
our dollar does mean something,
aw, it just sent me. You're so right.
Money is invented.
It's imaginary.
There's a clip
I don't know if you said it or
someone said it, it was like, oh come on Cam
or Oh Cam, the way you, the way

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whoever said Oh Cam
or something was so funny. Dude,
it felt like,
like we said when we were chatting right
before this, you were the
only one in our opinion that just did not
miss during that episode. It was
really funny
to watch you at times like try to
gentle parent them in my opinion.
It was like, it was

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f**king hilarious.
Gentle parent is such a
great way to put it. I love
that. That's really what it felt
like. Well what else
can you do when you're just getting hit
at like 150 miles per hour with some
of the craziest s**t you've ever
heard? I expected, don't get
me wrong, I expected some pretty
some pretty out of touch

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stuff but having it
right in front of your space, especially when you're
supposed to be capitalist, you're told so often
when you're on this side the capitalists are just
like these were the kings, they
were kings, they were the colonized
emperors. I'm like, okay I'm about to
meet some of the smartest guys in the
world and I get confronted
with Tai Lopez, I get
confronted with Cam who barely

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finished high school, he didn't even get his GED.
Oh fun fact,
they didn't put that, they didn't put that in the
episode. I told, I said
in the episode I went to law school.
They cut that. They cut that.
That's very cool. Yeah yeah yeah, check the degree
in the back, check the degree in the back
yo. That is very interesting
Juicy. And
and Hannah

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who is uh, who's
spouting literally a different definition
of capitalism every 15 seconds she
has just to make, cause essentially her argument
was everything good is capitalism
everything bad is socialism. Exactly.
The Confederacy were the Antebellum, Marxist, Leninist apparently.
Loved capitalism.
The reason why she has a different definition
every time is cause she doesn't actually know
what it is. And it's kind of

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like a fantasy concept that's
ever changing and holding to
just, I don't know, whatever
fits their argument. Yeah I
feel like you can't really
be like educated
on capitalism and defend
it in good faith without coming
off as like a total asshole.
I feel like you, no, you're definitely
valid. I've always um, I've

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slightly argued a new recent point that
capitalists and anybody in the right wing
would be way funnier if
they were just more dead ass. I feel like my
far right and right wing person in my own
political spectrum videos are funnier
and more truthful than the actual far right and
right wing. They would come across way
better. I'm just like Hannah
if you believe that
money makes you genetically superior

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to somebody else, just say it bro. I swear
to god, your fan base
will appreciate the honesty.
Your fan base believes this. They just want you to
believe it. My fan base already knows
that you believe this. Like this is
make it easier for both sides, you know? The true
center's position. I have a question
about the
people on the capitalist side.

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The question is
what was their definition
of capitalist?
Was it just somebody who like believes that that is
the best economic model?
Or were they like, cause when I hear the
word capitalist, like I see Tai Lopez
and I think he's a capitalist cause he has capital
and does the stuff that a capitalist does.
Were the other two, did they like own businesses
or something? Did you find anything out about them?

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Again, Cam
still lives with his
parents. So
he's not a capitalist is what
they didn't even catch the video.
They're alarming.
No, it's like how are you going to say
that you like benefit
so much from capitalism
and like... Dude, they're actors.
I think they're all actors. Holy

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shit. I think all of them are
actors, bro. Like they're all
fakers. None of them are real people.
They know that they're like mini
Ben Shapiro.
They know what they're saying is bullshit, dude.
I'm so over this. I'm pretty sure
all of it is just BS at this
point.
I'm pretty sure Hannah works for the Hill
and

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cause you're
valid. Lowkey, I'm pretty sure the
capitalist, I saw it from a million miles away.
These motherfuckers are trying to get a job. Sorry
if you're going to have to bleed me out there. But yeah.
No, we don't bleed here. Cause see from a capitalist
position, they know
that this right
wing ass channel will edit them in their
favor.
I remember even behind the stage

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even though Eddie felt pretty good
about our performance, we all felt pretty good. The
communists were like, we won this shit.
He hesitated
and said, well, we're just going to have to see the edit
and that was the only time I saw Cam
the capitalist smile. Cause he knows
the game. He knows what's up.
We're all pretty woke on that.
It's pretty telling that despite their
edit, we're still in the position of

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where
cause like think about this. 40 years ago
if YouTube existed, that
common section would have been
a lynch mob. But we come to a point
where
the contradictions are so
bad. The contradictions
are so bad that red scare
rhetoric doesn't work anymore.
Go to the comm section now, sure at first it was

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a war zone. But now it's mixed responses.
People are praising Eddie. The worst
thing they can say about me is that Malungo talks
too much. Actual fuck. People
label themselves as communists and this is
the only bad thing they can do. It's
like
I can say it's it feels good
man. Like they tried to take us down
and we still look fucking good. Their
capitalist look like idiots and

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they really did. They really look like
idiots.
You said it. I'm happy you said it.
Imagine Hannah trying to get a job
at the Hill after she told a
black man that slavery
stopped capitalism. I'm just like
she tried it. She really tried it
cause at first I thought she was going to be
a black man. I wasn't going to attack anybody on that
Drew Blee video at all. I wasn't going to make

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any response videos. Then I saw
then I noticed that Hannah was buying comments.
She was trying to
hold the... Cause I was wondering
why everybody was attacking me so readily.
That is 20 years
of truth.
So I hit up
one of my boys who's good with bots
and he's looking at these time stamps and I'm like yo this
Hannah girl bot comments and just

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because how people take
the conversation. The first couple comments
they take in as like oh this is
the conversation. People are saying
Malumbo is attacking Hannah.
If I say that I get a couple likes
a couple endorphin hits that's it.
That's a conversation started. Cause people are very simple
people are a little slow.
Hold up. Hold up. Sorry.
It says I have to stop the recording. No you don't.

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No it says the ho should stop the recording for all.
No. No.
Nicole is correct.
That's why I was... No sorry.
No you're good. You're good. You're good.
Are we positive we're still recording?
Yeah.
Looks like it. Sorry.
It's only us three
running this show. We're text
sound.

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I was troubleshooting. And we're
leaving this in. Yeah.
We don't cut this thing. No no I respect.
I respect. No it's all good.
But to cut my thing short
I wasn't gonna
attack Hannah or anybody else.
I don't want to be the guy that'd be like
oh here's a clip of you. You're an idiot.
But as soon as
I had people, my own little brother

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talk to me say like oh I wish you pushed harder
into slavery point. Or I had people
saying like I can't believe Malimbo made that stupid
point about capitalism and slavery. I was angry.
As a black man in America
that was such a hit
to my fucking pride. I was like okay
you're gonna get to smoke. I made that clip
that shit went viral dummy because like I'm not
an idiot. I know what the hell I'm talking about.
If you honestly think the buying and selling of human

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beings is not capitalism you're
delulu as hell and I'm gonna show you that.
Woooooooo!
I remember as soon as I dropped that
Hannah
Cam and all of them were on damage
control. They were posting videos
they were posting three videos a day for a past
week. I posted that one video.
Then I posted his song clip as soon as
the people on his team hit me up saying

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like yo he's gonna record this video. I'm like
bet I'm ready for the edit. Ding ding done.
Yeah that's my Jubilee socket.
Hell yeah. So I have a question.
Did you ever
speak with Hannah or Cam
after the
recording at all? Did you ever like
clear the air?
So it was a three hour conversation
and you guys could watch the video.

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The vibes were good. The reason there wasn't a mediator
is because I'm good at keeping the vibes
chill. I'm good at keeping things light hearted.
A serious topic like communism
I could talk to you about it
as if it was just like we're talking about soccer.
Yeah you're not trying to go in there and like
debate lord somebody if you don't have to.
No. That's like I don't know why people
want to own people. And you're calling everyone
the nicest in the room. How could anyone

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be mad? You're coming in with good vibes
only.
You know what I mean? Like it's called middle ground.
I'm taking the title at face value though.
Okay. Um. We're just
gonna be chill. And I also
I think strategically I know that if the
capitalists are gonna go aggro it's
just it's just it's gonna age like fucking milk
on their side. So I know I just keep it
together. Um. Yeah.

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But uh your question of
did it did I have to clear
the air? We really didn't.
I kept it I kept it vibing
there were multiple moments that they cut where
I was making the capitalists laugh.
Like I called out Cam for
using Kinsey and economics cause
the whole that whole HCI bit that
he had I tore it down. I'm like
okay if you're saying that we can't trust

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Cuba because Cuba makes
her own health index why the hell
would I trust a quality of life index
made by Kinsey and economics?
Hannah made a point saying like no
we're Austrian economics. I looked at her and said
what? Wow. I'd be a way
better capitalist than you. They all laugh.
Like
there are multiple points in the video where I'm
doing stuff like this where especially the points

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where I show them that like I
know how capitalism works. Those
I would say those are the biggest cuts in the video.
And those are
also the biggest
moments where you can see in their
heads that they were kind of stuck.
They had this idea that
cause a lot of capitalists fall into this trap as if
like we're born communists.
As if like we were just born

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this idea and we just never thought about it.
We're all fucking American. We go through
that same bullshit education system.
But we actually took
the time to question it.
We saw the friction and contradiction
and said like yo this ain't
doesn't add up. So I would
say those are the biggest things they cut. And because
those are the biggest things that we
bought it over and to answer a question

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there was nothing to smooth
over. The ending of the YouTube is the
realest thing. We all shook hands.
All followed each other on Instagram and shit.
It was all good until
the video dropped and Cam and Hannah
started doing some such shit.
Oh yeah yeah I meant like
in any of that process. When you kind of clap
back a little bit is kind of
what it seems like. Did they

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like yeah so like
or did they just go damage control? Or did they ever
be like yo what the fuck dude?
Do they feel like they're always on a script?
Cause it does kind of feel
like they're always on a script.
The funniest thing about the edit is that they
only kept the parts where they weren't fumbling.
They fumbled most of the time.

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Especially the points in editing.
They're like oh what did my handler say
I have to say again?
Shit. What did he have to say?
And you were saying way more than they left in.
If I take this point I get like $10,000
bonus this month. Fuck what was it?
If this gets in the final
lighting. Oh yeah I hate trans kids. What was it?
The market
is not all this bullshit.

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Oh yeah that was my favorite.
Yeah what'd you say? The true market.
Cause the market.
Cause market.
And go up.
Market good.
Market positive. But exactly.
That's what happens is
you know like you
the first step to becoming a communist
is understanding how

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capitalism works right? And then
there's two kinds of people. There's the people who go
whoa this is fucked up.
We gotta change this.
Then there's the people who go oh I
understand I'll become a
propagandist or I'll become a billionaire
and all I have to do is exploit
you know a couple extra
pennies off of every person I hire
and then I'll have

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an island to myself.
Like that's just what happens. It all sounded right.
I just didn't like the term communism
Cory what are you talking about?
We're bottom up capitalists here.
We are bottom up capitalists.
I'm a self proclaimed
capitalist and
as a self
proclaimed capitalist I
disagree

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with endorsing communism
Cory. That's a scary word.
Scary word and I
don't like the word so I'm yelling at you.
And I heard
they told me on the news repeatedly my whole
life that it's bad and I've
never looked into it. No it's bad.
Because I don't have any time to.
The word bad it's a bad word. It's bad it's evil.
Yeah. It's just like so sick.

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They burn out every single day.
No it really
is like so ridiculous
what's been fed and I'll
I'm sure you have plenty of thoughts
on like how communism's been
talked about in the media or just like
pop culture in general but it is
crazy what
I thought it was before
I like developed

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a I don't know frontal lobe and like started
being able to think independently.
But it's crazy what is
just planted
in your brain growing
up. You're like nope communism bad.
Bad word don't like it.
Without actually even like
thinking about what
what capitalism
is. It's like capitalism good

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communism bad. That's it.
Don't ask questions.
So do you want to tell us about
your well this
I'm gonna use a different word your bottom up capitalism
and pop culture.
The communism and pop culture
you said you had some stuff you wanted to say about
that.
Damn well I just thought
it'd be just an interesting topic

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to really just dive into. But communism
pop culture.
I feel like I was kind of tasting
the I was kind of
I was kind of serving the appetizer a bit of conversation
with. Look at where we're at
now at a post McCarthy America
where communism isn't demonized
in the same way. We were at a point
where you lost your job. You went
to jail legitimately assassinated.

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And
now communists can't even get an angry
mob on YouTube anymore.
They the
on bread tube the average bread
tuber can make as much as a doctor or
a lawyer. It's
we're just coming to a point where
hating capitalism is such a mainstream
like how often the Barbie movie
use the word fascism.

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What the fuck.
Yeah.
And for those of you who happen
to not know
bread tube is just the
leftist YouTube
is effective. Oh my Mr. Beast
video. Where did he get the bread from?
I don't know but she actually
the bread tube subreddit kind of helped.
Yeah Dante told me to post my

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Mr. Beast video essay.
It's essentially
like Mr. Beast is not a hero
let's stop idolizing him.
I think he's causing a lot of harm.
That's the general gist of it
and Dante told me to post it on bread tube
and they were so nice to me.
They gave me like that was
the first good experience I've ever had
on Reddit. I fucking hate Reddit

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dude and that was the first
good experience
interaction wise. Yeah dude
Reddit. Reddit is such a bummer
of a website to visit.
Everyone is just always awful
for no reason. They're all just
so sad. Damn that was the exact opposite
of what our homegirl said.
What do you mean? God damn it.
Except for the most part.

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Yeah. No pretty much
everywhere else on Reddit is
awful. I've done
my fair share of sleuthing and posting
just to cause
menisery in random places on the internet.
I mean there's really cool info.
Nicole's a menis. Yeah. But like
moderators
have, I think
they have beef with me. I'm

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banned from a lot of
Reddits for no particular reason.
You know where I'm banned from?
Where? You know where I'm banned from? Black people
Twitter.
Crazy right?
I'm fucking banned from there.
Cause I called them out.
They were
it was during the Ukraine, you Russia thing.
I'm just like what are we talking about?

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What do you mean you're banned from Black people Twitter?
I'm not allowed to comment there, not allowed
to post. It's crazy. Not even the
country club thread. I'm like
I'm darker than 90%
of the people here on God I trust.
Bro it's because it's just filled with
feds bro. That website
is so filled with feds. I posted on
the H3 subreddit right?
This is what honestly started me

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on my federal investigation.
Because I said
yo guys are you noticing
my federal investigation? What's your federal
investigation?
What do you mean fed? The fed talk
investigating the feds.
It made it sound like you were like
flashing my federal
investigation. Exactly.
It is my federal investigation. Are you a

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fed? I said
hey is it weird that
I thought that Philly D did
drama and gossip on YouTube.
Why does he post
so much about North Korea and
war? And then I
got banned from the fucking
subreddit.
I can't post there anymore. And then I tried
to post there from a different account and they said

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you are banned now from this
account forever because you
tried to evade a ban.
That's
nuts.
There it is. They're
everywhere bro. They're freaking everywhere.
So for example you were saying
something. Somebody interrupted you.
We're doing so many tangents.
I think yeah.

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What thing I want to say about Reddit is like
there's a company
called LumenR Technologies.
I think we have to try to
fix this even though we're in the middle of the episode.
No, no. Corey
I think like can you turn your
output volume down a little bit?
Down now?
Or like something's
echoing. We've been like

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muting you on and off.
Is that
better? Let's see.
I think it's mostly
lags. I think
my speakers were up a little bit. I didn't hear.
I have my headphones on.
That would make it.
Oh yeah. Cause I switched my
mic.
This mic doesn't pick anything else up.

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It's okay.
We are learning and laughing
and living and loving and
growing each and every day.
This is simply a learning experience
for us. We're not going to cut this.
I was muting you and unmuting you. There's going to be times where you were like
I thought I said something there. You didn't say
anything. Sorry. My bad.
I was trying to be really vigilant about it
and I was kind of half, you know, making

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sure. But now we're great.
Now we're cooking.
I don't remember what I was going to say. How did we get on Reddit, dude?
We were talking
about communism and pop culture.
Yeah, yeah.
You can't be a communist on
Reddit. Oh yeah, no. They hate that
there. Except Bread2.
My argument is actually
I was explaining Bread2.

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We're in the
point of time where normalizing the word
communism is like the fire point.
2024 will be the year of communism.
This will probably be, I call this
the time of the episode
and my most spicy bit here.
2024 will be
the year of communism. That word will be
normalized more than ever.
It's

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I think the idea of being a socialist
will just, because if you are
actually understanding communism, you understand that
if you actually also read Marx, you understand
that Marx did not differentiate between
the word socialism and communism.
The
only difference was lower tier
and higher tier communism, where that
differentiation was
only really legitimized with Lenin, where he said

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yeah, that lower tier is socialism,
state capitalism,
trying to build that point of
accumulated abundance, they will move on
to communism.
That's the only difference.
It's very much a jargon, but
people call themselves socialists because even back
in the day in the 1930s, calling yourself
a socialist seemed a little bit less radical
than calling yourself a communist.

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Even on the modern age, calling yourself a
socialist, well we have so many social programs,
social services, social goods,
so that even in our lexicon,
even in the way we use the language,
social has already been so normalized.
What I'm saying is that communism will
come to that point where capitalism
becomes so demonized, has become
so demonized in pop culture
that, well, people are

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going to turn towards the opposite.
I agree.
That's my bar.
I agree. No, that might be the
episode title.
2024 is the year of communism,
but then I'll put a question mark for plausible
and truth, because we're always
joking, and this is a comedy podcast.
But what I think similarly
is that

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all satire and we're just joking.
I think that
we need to focus on
the communism.
We need to break that word up.
We need to focus on community as part of
communism. I think that's how we can get
how you said social,
social, that was already like
people were okay with that. That didn't
seem radical. You could start calling

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yourself a socialist without much pushback.
It wasn't really, it's not a scary
thing to announce to the world.
I think, like you said,
I've noticed it being a lot more
normalized, and
you can tell that like that
is scaring
the people who are against
that because they are really ramping up
the like propaganda

(24:58):
again. Like it's literally
what's
the suppression. The contradictions are
just way too loud. Like Israel,
Palestine couldn't have come
at a better boiling point.
Right here, right now you see
the falsities of near liberal
fucking democracies that they can't
hold up
this moral facade,

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this facade of having
the moral superiority.
They've already what? Killed over
30,000 people, 70% of them women and
children in Israel. For what?
A strategic location?
If you would admit it's a strategic
location, strategic location for what?
Because they don't want to
admit it's for material goods.
They can't say it's for oil. They can't say

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it's to... All they
will say to most people is like, oh yeah.
To have a base? What does
Joe Biden say? Joe Biden says like, oh,
to protect our interest. What the fuck are the
interests? And anybody with half a mind or a
Google search engine can figure out what those
interests are. It is crazy.
I mean that people are like okay
with either the
ambiguity or the like

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you said like ambiguity, but then you can
figure out exactly what they're talking
about, but people just choose to like
disregard it and be like no, the interests of
America. God bless America.
And you're like what the fuck does that mean
dude? What the fuck does that mean?
Because I think it's not what you
I don't think it means
good for all.
Yeah. And I think

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more people are Googling it low key just because
you know, we all have pride, we all have ego.
Nobody wants to lose an internet argument.
So they're gonna Google, they're gonna like
you know what? He's wrong. I'm gonna Google it.
I know it's crazy bro.
Reality has a communist bias bro.
It's crazy.
And that's the thing is they
can adapt to the internet.
Sorry Dante, you can

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you've been wanting to say something. Go.
Hit your bar Dante. I just have two parts.
Go spit. I'll let men speak.
So like I don't, so you mentioned
like people, yeah we'll let
a white male with fucking blonde hair
speak for a second. I'll let the white male with the
mullet speak. Yeah no, you've been
really silenced. I've been silenced.
Dude I've been fucking terribly
silenced by you. No it's okay, go ahead.

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Say it honey, you can do it.
White Pride 2024,
let's go.
It's already awesome.
The year of white pride baby.
I'm black for anybody listening to this.
Anyone know why you need to watch this?
I have to make this clear.
I grew up in Colorado and I sound like
I could be in rocket power. I have to declare.

(27:32):
That was a close one.
You could be in rocket power.
Oh Dante, what were you going to say?
Sorry. Congolese I learned.
Go ahead, what were you going to say?
I'll be Italian.
Oh yeah, so I was
going to say, you said something about like when
you read marks.
I'm not going to sit here and act like

(27:54):
I've read, I haven't read.
But I don't think everybody has to. Does this guy look
like a reader? No I don't read. I do watch
a lot of stuff and I do absorb information
that way and so I'd say like
I think my, I've never
really read it right? Big documentary.
But I don't think that everybody has
to read it. Like I think
that you just have to actually think about
what would feel better?

(28:16):
What would be better for ever? You know what I'm
saying? You just have to use
common sense. Quite literally
if everyone just went off vibes
they would end up at this, yeah, no.
I'm like if you just fucking
it's like what makes
the most sense. But just fucking, I don't
know. I think, okay here's
my hot take. This is a, this is
a really out of pocket thing to say

(28:38):
but this is a comedy podcast.
I think, have I already said this
here? I don't know. I think if I got
all the world leaders together on a porch
and passed around a blunt and we got
everyone nice and high, I think
we could take some
noble steps towards
fixing
fixing something.
We haven't tried it yet. One of them would

(29:00):
say this is weird and that person
would probably die. I think someone might break out.
Someone might break out. I was gonna say
drone strike the porch but
I was gonna say
I was gonna say Z.
Z will definitely be down for
everything. You know what? We have
been taking kind of slow with America. 100%
you would start World War III. 100%
we essentially with Z, you'd be like you know

(29:22):
what? You're right. We're gonna
legalize this in China and we're gonna legalize
communism around the world. Let's get it. Let's go.
Joe
Biden though, there's no doubt in my mind Joe
Biden would reveal every assassination
attempt that has ever happened in America.
He would be like you know what? This is some good shit.
We love it but
he would be that stoner.
He would be that stoner that would just

(29:44):
cry and complain
but doesn't really want to solve anything.
As much as I would like to
admit that
age old quote that
you don't smoke weed and become more conservative
you can smoke weed and be
more annoying for sure.
For fucking sure.
For sure you can. We all know a guy.
Dude, Joe would be like bragging

(30:06):
about things that's like making everyone
in the room uncomfortable. Like he would
be like super, like the guy that's
like acting way too
high and everyone's like dude you hit it
twice and he's like
no I feel like this is not
87.
Yeah, yeah
it would just be a really bad time all
around. Uh, remember when Joe Biden

(30:28):
uh, this is not a conservative
podcast but they love this clip and I don't know
why more people don't embrace it.
That clip of Joe Biden sniffing a kid.
Stop!
Bro.
And I remember you popping off on
conservative YouTube. Isn't that a famous
clip though? That's famous though.
I know, why don't we still use it?
We gotta bring it back.

(30:50):
Wait, what do you want to use it for?
Why isn't it with the FBI?
Just call it.
Yeah, that too.
Imprison Joe Biden.
Fabs.
Well that, uh, nah, it's uh
No, we gotta keep the Fabs on their
toes. They have no idea what
our stances are.
It's all comedy.

(31:12):
We're just joking about all of this.
Absolutely. No, go ahead.
What were you saying? Tell your joke, Bonbo.
I consider myself an American
patriot though, just so you know
Agent Rick.
I love America.
Yo, that was a real point I made in the Jubilee
video though, that communism is
patriotism. I love my
fellow Americans.

(31:34):
I'm taking a leap of faith by saying
like, hey, if every American
were to dance together, we could
legitimately have heaven on Earth.
If we actually cared about making
sure everyone had adequate shelter, food
and water. I care about
Americans. I care about my people.
Honestly, I lowkey made this rant
on the, I keep bringing up the fucking video, even though I said
I admit the point, but I made

(31:56):
my rant by saying
Yeah, fuck Jim.
Capitalism.
I made the point. I made the point.
I finished my rant by saying that
Oh fuck. Oh my god.
No, no, you got it.
I made the point that
my, I made the point that
That you were a patriot. That it's

(32:18):
Yeah.
I was a patriot. I care about my
fellow Americans. Not giving a shit
about my fellow Americans. That's
essentially what capitalism
exemplifies. That if I'm saying that I'm a communist
I'm saying I want to commune with you. I'm saying
that you're my boy. I'm saying you're my people.
It was just, um
It's all from hoarding, man.
We let these guys, these guys

(32:40):
hoard and the rest of us are down here
fighting for crumbs.
You know, like how can you
grip that to a communist?
No, you can't.
Like, your
fan base is some of the poorest people
Some of the most marginalized people
Some of the most disregarded people. Also
some of the most annoying people. I love my leftists.
I love my communists. You're all fucking annoying.

(33:02):
I get it. Your life is
fucked. Our life is fucked. And I understand
they have to complain, but that makes, still
make you guys the most annoying fan base. Love you guys
to death. But why would I grift
with a fan base like this? What?
This isn't for money, of course. Like the fuck?
Right? And dude, everything
like that is always a self report.
Just say, that's
just a fad.

(33:24):
It's always a self report. It's always
an accus, the accusations are always
uh, what's it?
What's the accusations
projection?
Is that the word you were looking for?
Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Accusations are
confessions. Accusations
are confessions. That's exactly
what it is. Always. Oh,
if we have to say what a fed was, if we

(33:46):
have to say what a fed was, I consider- Oh yeah, what's your definition of a fed?
I think it's important that we get more- Yeah, let's do that.
I'm gonna say, what is Malumbo's definition of a fed?
Yeah. I consider
a fed
honestly
anybody who
oh, anybody who
owns a company, anybody who
owns capital is a fed to me. If you own
if you just have the ability

(34:08):
to- If you have the ability to
pay to change the law, you're a fed.
I consider anybody part of the federal department
as the vanguard party. Why
I mention that FBI is the vanguard
party, they are the military
wing of the capitalist
who- and they get paid directly by
them. It's Silicon Valley.
Those are all feds.
Facebook, all feds. Instagram, feds.

(34:30):
TikTok is where I
where I hesitate calling feds
just because that's a clear
example of the quote you hear
all the time from Marx, the capitalist
will give us- no, not Marx, Lenin.
The capitalist will give us the- will make the rope
we hang them with. Exactly.
And that's the game China is playing
and I'm really happy in this new
age. Something I saw in 2023

(34:52):
with a lot of discourse with leftists is that
they finally understood what the fuck China was doing.
China understood that the
only way to survive as a communist
nation to not make sure not to
get assassinated by the likes of America
and end up in the situation USSR
was like, okay, we got to
appeal to the capitalist
we have to appeal to American capitalist
but all we have to do is take all

(35:14):
their finance capital and give it to
our people. That's all we have to do.
People say, oh well, China
opened themselves to liberal democracy. I'm like, nigga
how? 70% of the
companies, 70% of the
top 500 fortune companies in China
are state owned.
If that's capitalist, what the fuck is America
doing, bro?
Like in China

(35:36):
international companies
can only work in six special
zones all along
the South China Sea. Oh, I've heard that
name before. Hmm, so
familiar. They can- and guess what?
All those moments where you see in China
where, oh, factors are
failing, sweatshops,
de-collapsing
infrastructure. Those are all within the

(35:58):
special zones. So you see American
companies killing Chinese citizens.
Like it's, it's
crazy. But sorry, it was
crazy. But what I'm saying is that I'm loving
that in 2023 the discourse
left the discourse has changed for them to finally
realize that China's
playing the fucking long game. They're playing the five
year plan. They realize that you can't be a
USSR and go state street capitalism

(36:20):
all the way. Well,
which is something Eddie even mentioned in the Jubilee video
that there are like we
we, we
have the responsibility of
looking at- I was going to say, can we talk about Eddie? No, I'll let you
finish your point. You finish your point
and then we'll- I have beef with Eddie. Yeah,
you go, you go. But he
didn't make the Craig point about
capitalism had experiments.

(36:42):
We weren't just immediately
going from monarchy to realizing
oh yeah, the merchant class actually had
all the great ideas. Let them leave all society.
That isn't how it worked. It was hundreds
of years until eventually the social
capital of the merchant class was much
bigger than the monarchs. That's how it
worked. So what we're seeing right now
is the worker class's social capital
rising higher than the capitalist.

(37:04):
And the capitalist in that same
end are trying to judge the formation of
all these socialist nations as if they're
developed capitalist nations. I'm like
USSR was an experiment.
Cuba's a successful experiment.
That's crazy. Laos is a successful
experiment. That's crazy. Vietnam is a successful
experiment. That's crazy. China's a successful experiment.
And then when you go through all these
dubs, you realize like damn, it's just street dubs.

(37:26):
It's just street dubs. It's another point
I made in the Jubilee video. I keep making this point.
But I said that if
we're really going to talk about progression
politics, the USSR
went from being literally peasant farmers
to going into space first in 60 years
because of communism. I'm sorry. Hold
the dick.
Oh no, but I heard that communism
killed a hundred billion people

(37:48):
times like a million, right?
They say
this, but never bring up slavery. Never
bring up the Trail of Tears. I know.
Like they never, I don't know what those
are. They never bring up what has capitalism
doing right now.
Do you guys know what
Tai Lopez said? Do you remember what Tai Lopez
said about, here, new
colonizers are China.

(38:10):
Oh my god, dude. That line
was so weird. China.
No African will forget that when China
came to Africa 3000 years ago,
they left with gold, ivory, and
gifts. Not slaves.
No African will forget
that history. China didn't leave Africa
as slaves.
I think you said something in the Jubilee video about China.
Like, if China

(38:32):
goes to, I think you were talking about Africa,
right? Like them investing in Africa.
And they were like, you know, they go to
Africa with a deal and
whatever African country
is like, no, I don't want to do that.
They come back with a new deal
rather than what, you know,
maybe America would do.
Which is something that... No, you made a great point.
Coo them.

(38:54):
Okay, fine.
We'll fund the paramilitaries.
They said no. Coo them.
It's just
that equal respect. It's
something that it's, the way
a lot of African countries are treated,
the Kalan industry, the sub-Saharan African countries
specifically, is
this idea that they don't know any better.
That the material, whether it be the materials

(39:16):
that we have, whether it be our politics, whether it be
our distinction within the
world, in the international field,
is the idea that Africans
are too infantile to
understand geopolitical politics.
And you see that in the way America
has just dealt with the Congo. I talk about
the Congo specifically because, you know,
check the flag. But you see
this type of treatment with every other country.

(39:38):
And what China is doing is
no different honestly than what the USSR
did. And it is talking to
the person on the opposite
playing field as an equal, as a
peer. So when I brought up that China
point that when China comes to the Congo,
they don't just,
they don't come
with military. They don't come
with ex-Indian forces.

(40:00):
Sign this or we bomb you.
Literally, when America comes in, unmarked
airplanes, multitudes of military,
and why I mean multitudes of military, let's just
be clear, everybody. The United Nations
is a USA organization.
When you
hear United Nations military is
in a certain location, that is the USA.
If the USA was not
part of the United Nations, it would fall within a

(40:22):
day. And when you hear United Nations
military, think USA.
Yeah, we have a military active,
sorry, we have active duty military in
178 countries. I just had to Google that
and share that back. That's fucking insane.
How many countries are there? Like 190?
I don't know why I'm saying that, but maybe
that's it. Like there's not that many more
like we're in every, we're in every
is Antarctica a country? Do we, is there a military

(40:44):
in motherfucking Antarctica?
Seriously,
it's so stupid. Can we just go home?
Can everyone just go the fuck home?
We're literally an occupying
army around the world forcing
everyone to stay doing capitalism.
Truly, that is what
America's job is. No, no, Corey,
it's democracy. I'm sorry.
I do think democracy is just a dog

(41:06):
whistle for that. I agree. I just blacked out
for a second. Do I think
that like people voting is
important? Do I think that we need to have
a say in what happens
generally? Yeah. But like
whenever I hear Joe Biden say democracy
about like Israel doing
war crimes, I just think that democracy
is now officially a dog whistle
for

(41:28):
capitalism doing
what capitalism does. Truly, if you
just replace it with capitalism, that
makes so much more sense.
More specifically, like American
capitalism, I think, is like
I think there's a distinct
and it's all bad. Everybody's getting exploited
everywhere that's doing capitalism. I get that.
But like American capitalism is
uniquely like, and this is a high

(41:50):
guy thought, but American capitalism
is like uniquely
militaristic. I don't think anyone's ever
I mean, dude, look, it's not even like
I'm joking or exaggerating.
Look at how many
fucking coups that Wikipedia
has listed, you know, like
this is
in 40 years.
Look at my coup list.

(42:12):
Like, I gotta get
through all of them, dude. And then
Jeffrey Epstein document.
Yeah, dude. That was kind of a good joke.
The world is crazy. I
wish I could just get back to the simple
days of covering each coup.
And so
Malumbo, I have a question for you about
capitalism and like people
doing business.

(42:34):
So if you like
So you're
a communist, right?
Yeah.
Would you describe yourself as a communist?
Communist, patriot, great white hope,
all of the above. Okay, cool, cool.
So if
if you're a communist,
that must mean
but he's a patriot so he can play the music.

(42:56):
Yeah.
We love America.
It's just
Do you want me to stop?
Yeah.
It's a little distracting.
So you think like, do you think like
let's say you went to like a town, right?
And it was like a communist town.
If you could like design a town of like
5,000 people, small town,

(43:18):
but like it works for itself.
Would you say it's bad that people like
own businesses or like
are like
there's like business, people doing
business like activities
where they're like trading something.
Maybe there's like money and maybe
you know, like a thing that they're trading
goods with.
And there's like maybe there's

(43:40):
a hardware store and maybe there's like a grocery
store, like a market.
And everybody's like, you know, everybody's
got to go to work most days, you know,
but it's not too stressful. You know, you're just kind of like
living in the community. That kind of sounds like
people just doing business, right?
Yo,
markets, stores are not
capitalism.
Oh, so there's a difference.

(44:02):
There's a huge difference.
Dante hitting a fire point.
I'm glad you brought it up. It's something that
I was asking you.
I'm confused. I would never say
that because I'm not a communist, but you
describe yourself as a communist and I
and a patriot.
So I was
curious. First and
foremost, anybody listening to this podcast,

(44:24):
what capitalism is,
is very, very clearly
class power. It's power dynamics,
it's class structure, it's class
power. Whoever owns,
whoever owns the military wing,
the judicial wing, the legislative ring
of a country, of a nation.
And if it is the bourgeoisie,
it's capitalism straight up.
And everything that falls under it,

(44:46):
markets have existed since
monarchies. Trade has existed
since monarchies.
Owners own business advertising, those
all have existed within multiple
economic systems.
Underline on the term
economic systems. Socialism
into communism is proposing
a new economic system.
And economics is politics,

(45:08):
which is why politics gets so
coincided with economics.
The idea that the exchange of goods
is capitalism is a very good
propaganda tool that
capitalists use. Because
at the time, especially when
capitalism was introduced during
monarchies, the idea of
the average worker
becoming an

(45:30):
entrepreneur probably sounded
so progressive. So progressive
within that tight little cone.
But we live in the
future. We understand
these terms, these
designations, these plans on how to organize
society, search out into a multitude
of things. So yes, everybody
listening, under
socialism, under communism, you could still

(45:52):
open a business, you could still
open a store. But guess what?
If you're a worker and you're striking,
instead of Joe Biden saying
like, hey, you have to go back
to work, we decide to let you go back to work.
We're going to send military you. Instead of that
happening, guess what? The military is on your
strike during the strike. If a strike happens,
the CEO goes to jail. That's
the difference under socialism. You still

(46:14):
have the market. But guess what? The
actual government apparatus is on
the worker side.
I feel like it would be so much,
it would be so easier for people to imagine
what communism is if it's literally just
explained in that way. Think like
everything's the same, everything's
literally the same, except
all those rich assholes
who suffered the same

(46:36):
consequences, if not worse,
because they're graded on
a curve. They're graded by their capital.
Oh, you have the power to legitimately
control,
you have the power to accumulate your assets
and capital to
permanently change the lives
of the people on a class below
you? OK, bet. We have harsher
laws than you. So a great example

(46:58):
of that, I can say Cuba, but China
is a great one. 40% of billionaires,
40% of billionaires
are in jail in China.
Because you know what, because their
thinking is, if you have,
if you accumulate that much wealth,
guess what, you're immediately under investigation
because there's no way you are worth
these many workers.
No, yeah, dude, I remember Jack Ma

(47:20):
and the way it was framed to me
at the time, I was like, well, that's fucked.
At the time, I was like, yo, bro,
China's kind of crazy. But it's like
now, it's like, well, why did they, they just like arrested
Jack, or was it Jack Ma, was it the Alibaba
guy? Is that his name?
I think.
He was like the richest dude in China.
Multi-billionaire, and they just like, and nobody had heard
from him in however long. And it's like, oh, no,

(47:42):
like, yeah, no, the state just like took, because he was
probably doing some shady shit, and they were like, yo,
straighten it out. Yeah.
That's, that's a socialist government.
That's a social apparatus. And notice China,
actually, again, another way to say this
is that Americans,
what capitalist realism is,
a lot of people use that word, but
in the easiest way, Americans have a hard time
imagining, imagining

(48:04):
still having capitalists without political
power. That's essentially what they are
in China. There's billionaires in China,
sure. A lot of anti-communists like to say that.
But they don't have political power.
Yeah. 70%
of the people in Chinese Congress have farming
backgrounds.
I love when they say like China has
a lot of corruption.
It's like, well, probably,

(48:26):
but also it's like, well, we just
notice it because someone's getting arrested sometimes.
And it's like a top official got arrested
because they're doing some fuck shit.
And it's like, obviously, that's not,
that's better than having,
What top official would get arrested here?
Right? It's like, no, no, they just
don't arrest them. So you don't
know that the corruption's happened.
They just cover it up, guys.

(48:48):
Like, oh, it is
so frustrating. I mean,
that's, that's, yeah.
I was just going to say, that's, that's what like
the,
the difference between communism
and capitalism is basically just
scraping the top, the fucking
leeches at the top off.
Like, they always talk about streaming. Oh,
streaming isn't sustainable.

(49:10):
Streaming isn't sustainable because
we got to pay these fucking writers
and these actors. It's like, no, it's not
sustainable because you guys are taking
80% of like the
profit that this company is making
and then, you know, giving it the rest
of everyone peanuts while we're the ones
who make the work, you know? We do the,
we make the product.
Netflix, reality TV and paying them like

(49:32):
45 bucks a day.
Yeah. Beyond set or whatever.
And people are naive
to how much their take on the satellite
time. Don't derail us too far. Sorry.
But the point is
that they're not fairly paid.
And people, people
are naive because they think that
they're, you know, like, I think that
most people, most people are good

(49:54):
and they think like, oh, if
I was running a business, it would be like,
you know, 60% is
how much the operating cost is and
then 30% for the workers and then I'm
taking 10%. No, bro. It's like
they're taking 99 of that. Yeah.
They're taking most of it.
I'm sure when that regular person
says that that's what they would do, I truly
at least in the current way

(50:16):
that they're thinking, I truly believe that they would.
But it's like, I just really don't think
shit's set up to
Yeah, no. Like, it's just not, because I've
thought about, like, I've went to school
for computer science and everyone talks about
oh, start a, write some fucking
code and start a company and become Mark Zuckerberg.
And for a while I was like, damn, that would be kind
of cool. But also, no, it fucking wouldn't,
dude. That would suck. And also,

(50:38):
like, think about as a normal person, I'm
a person and I believe that I have empathy.
I couldn't do it.
Because there's like some, I forget the South
East, it's in Southeast Asia, I don't know the name
of the country, I'm sure someone here can fill me in.
But they like cause the fucking
genocide Facebook did in
one of those countries.
Oh, Cambodia?
I think so. Oh, from

(51:00):
Malaysia or Cambodia?
Misinformation on Facebook. Yeah,
Malaysia. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah. No, I think it was Myanmar.
I'm just gonna Google Facebook genocide
and we're gonna see what it's about.
Which
genocide did Facebook sponsor?
No, they literally, it was like
a bunch, like what happened was like there were a bunch of people there
who had never used the internet and feel

(51:22):
free to correct me someone. But like there were
a bunch of people there who had never really used the internet and then they suddenly just like
Facebook just like puts internet
towers in or something like that. Somehow they get internet.
And then they're all on Facebook and there was no
moderators, I think, for that region
in the world. Cause it was like a brand new
one. And then out of nowhere
they do a bunch of propaganda
the like, the militarist
military fucking

(51:44):
paramilitary group whatever. And then they eventually
just like couped it. And then they did a genocide
and Facebook's kind of feels responsible
cause they didn't.
Facebook's responsible. Oh they don't feel responsible.
Misinformation problems.
That's such a great example of why
the Chinese firewall is honestly
one of the most base things in the world.
Imagine. Imagine
a technology like the internet comes

(52:06):
up by the biggest capitalist power
and they come to you and say like hey can we like
be information for
your country? Fuck no.
Fuck no. You're banned.
Hell no.
Well isn't China making like
they're like leading the... Yeah I was gonna
just about to say that.
They're like running new cables.
So there's like a new network that's not based

(52:28):
off of, I will just call it ours
cause I feel like it's probably ours. But
they're like making a new internet.
No honestly
real, when
the communist revolution
happens, satire satire,
I'm joking I'm joking.
It's a comedy. It's a comedy podcast.
Look at our silly sunglasses.
Guys. The decentralized

(52:50):
web, the dark web, or
any other independent server rooms
of all kind. I'm sorry I don't trust
Signal. If you can download from the app store
I'm sorry that shit's not safe. That's
that's fair. I've kind of felt the same way.
I don't think anything is safe.
I know. If it's on my phone
someone can see it. Yeah I just
truly don't think we have anything to hide.
Unless you've met the developer

(53:12):
unless you've met the developer, seen his server
room, or you're part of the dark web, I'm
sorry. It's not
decentralized is where it's gonna happen.
Honestly,
the normalization of a decentralized
internet would be some pretty base shit. I can't wait
for that. Like in the show Silicon
Valley. Yeah dude
that would be sick. That's what happens at the end of the show. Is that what happens?
Oh I just spoiled it for you. We're on

(53:34):
season two.
She's the only person you could have spoiled
that for. Yeah.
Sorry Sam Altman's AI
takes over the world. Sam Altman
fucking sucks. I don't know if you know anything about Sam Altman.
Oh god we can't get on that. I'm not gonna get into
that tangent. He's the CEO
of OpenAI, ChatGPT.
Oh that guy. He's a real

(53:56):
fuckhead. Yeah. Real piece of shit.
He looks like a fuckhead. Yeah I'll tell you
all about him in text. See in text I'll
text you that later. Yeah. But if you want
to look into Sam Altman you can look into Sam Altman
but he's a real fuckhead. I'm sure. We'll just
we'll have another Malumbo guest
to the pod. Yeah I'll do a
Sam Altman presentation.
Yeah friend of the podcast Malumbo.
On our comedy

(54:18):
podcast where we just tell
jokes. Okay so I want to make one
point that kind of tied back to a lot
of that stuff and how
I don't know just in general and then I
think Malumbo's gonna talk about the Congo
a bit. Give us a little lesson on the Congo
because if we're being completely honest
with the Congo I
don't know shit and I know that
I know that there's some stuff with phone

(54:40):
minerals right from
a phone. I personally don't know much
about the Congo. I know there's some fuck shit going
on there and I would love to learn
all about it.
But I want to make one point
first. I really want to tease
the audience. So I saw something about
it was about Gaza and it was about how
once you
get like the first person that gets

(55:02):
killed or whatever like
everybody's like oh my god somebody got killed
and then every extra person you add
to that, every person that dies.
The overwhelming
amount, like everybody as like a society
starts to care less.
So more people die each life matters
less to the person individually. I'm not saying
this is right. I'm saying this is like usually what happens.

(55:24):
And I think that the only way
to
make people really care
about stuff is to like get really
personal and figure out stuff about
individual people. So
for example, I'm sure
that I'm sure that Malambo has an example
in his head. But Roger
Clay, anything about Roger Clay.
I'll give you one sentence about

(55:46):
Roger Clay. Let me think of one
sentence about Roger Clay. So Roger Clay
before I give you one sentence he was
a TikToker with 3 million followers
who sang karaoke to 14 year old
girls and he was like 58 years old.
And he
was on the internet and we bullied
him off the internet.
So then the only
other thing you need to know about Roger Clay is

(56:08):
that his family
ran a concentration camp
during World War
II. It's called Adler Work.
He was a descendant of the
Clier family. Yep. And they
love and in my opinion they
haven't changed a bit.
And so I think what's important
in order to like get people
to care about, oh my god, wait a second.

(56:30):
There's so many fucking
Nazis. If you just say, yeah dude, Nazis
are running a lot of stuff.
They still have a lot of power, right?
Hello, Alphabets.
They still have a lot of
control. They haven't like lost
those resources, right? They've maintained
those. If you just tell them that, they're like, well yeah
fucking duh. And they don't care.
When you tell them about, when you tell like a mom

(56:52):
about Roger Clay and how like
her 15 year old daughter was a fan of this guy
who may or may not have been trying
to traffic people her age in
his audience. And there's video now of
it, like lives, you know, like
it's me. So it's catching up to them.
And I think like people are always
asking, why do you care so much about
Roger? And it's like, because you guys
don't fucking get it, dude. The one that I've

(57:14):
talked a lot about lately is Mr.
Beast and I, yeah I'm not going to go
into this whole tangent here.
But that I've found
similarly. Apartheid South Africa.
Yeah.
There's quite a few things that
ensue in that conversation. But yeah
no, I mean that being said, I
found it a really good segue into
some of these

(57:36):
topics that to
a lot of leftists seem like duh.
Like I already feel that way.
Like we said, like common sense
that makes sense to me. But a lot
of people haven't thought about it in those
terms or in relation to like
a creator they like or
yeah. So with the Mr. Beast
thing, it was like yeah with his philanthropy. I
talked a lot about

(57:58):
other people, what other people have written
about his philanthropy and my opinions
on it and his charity work in Africa
and how that plays into
larger
problems and stereotypes and
there's a whole tangent. I'm excited to hear Malumbo's.
I'm going to write this down.
I'm going to write Africa.
Let's just hear it now. You already
interrupted me. You already interrupted women.

(58:20):
I'm sorry. I would
What are you trying to say Nicole? What are you trying to say Nicole?
It sounded like you were trailing off.
No I probably was.
Something is trying to keep the show on the road.
He's leaving chat
for an ice cream. I'm curious what
Malumbo, what's your opinion on
people like
you probably don't know
as much as we do about Mr. Beast.

(58:42):
I know too much.
But I'll give you a fact here.
He's a YouTuber. I just love this thing
A lot of subscribers and he makes
a lot of money from YouTube and then he makes
a bunch of content about
donating money to doing philanthropy
in Africa and I feel like as a
person of Congolese descent
you
would definitely

(59:04):
know more about that than I would
so I'm interested to hear what you have to say about that.
I don't know one African
that has been helped by Mr. Beast first and
foremost. Let's get that real off the jump.
But he made a hundred loves. Anybody
who's
I'm not going to lie.
I didn't know about the hundred wells. A hundred
wealth is actually material benefit.
I always should

(59:26):
donations in the short
in the short term. I gotta
see the wealth map to Google the wealth what they look
like.
So
but
no, no, you're good. You're good. I always look
at charities donations to Africa
as
like look at what Thomas Sunkara said about
charities and about charities that

(59:48):
come to Africa. We don't need
we don't need we don't need
the seeds. We need the machinery.
You know, we need the actual
if you actually want to help after give us the tools
and machines for us to help ourselves.
If you just give us if you give us the chicken
that were always on your teeth, you know what I mean?
That's pretty much that's all I
hold through with donations and charity in Africa. I would
assume that most leftists

(01:00:10):
or people in the left within Africa,
which I would say is over 12 in majority.
Anybody that says we're socially conservative
would agree with at that point.
So when I hear Mr.
Bees, I know a bit about Mr. Bees,
him giving like a hundred dollars to somebody at a gas
station.
Yeah, that makes him really like horny.
I think.
No, no, that's valid. It's like teasing people

(01:00:32):
within capitalism. Like, oh, look, you know,
you can. There's levels to
hornyness. No,
and I mean, that's a lot of the points I make
in my video essay was, yeah,
it's like that the the
philanthropy stuff's one aspect. But then
yeah, he really like
I don't even know
how to say this in a short like
summary, so I don't want to get us too off track.

(01:00:54):
But he really just like
dude, he like he stands
capitalism like he really
hypes it up. He texts Elon Musk
because he's winning from it for sure.
Yeah, exactly. He's winning from it
and he I don't know whether he
illusionally truly believes that
it is great and could be for everyone
else or I don't think
he's that stupid. Like, I think

(01:01:16):
he's a military for
20 some years and was a prison warden.
So and he
just like, dude, I think
he's this is a joke.
This is a comedy podcast.
Mr. Beast, the CIA
like it is so fucking
weird if I
we had never watched his videos
before I got interested in

(01:01:38):
like what the fuck is his philanthropy
doing? It all started
honestly with this Forbes deal that he
was a part of that got
it's we're not going to get on this whole tangent.
Really sus people goes back to
Peter Thiel. The Roger the creepy guy
on Tik Tok. His his his nephew
is the was his youngest billionaire
in the US. Yeah. And
we didn't know that before we

(01:02:00):
found Roger on Tik Tok. So that makes me think Roger
is a Psy op. He used to
be a T word.
Mr. Beast is a part of that deal
with him. And so then that's why I
started researching Mr. Beast. Moral of the story
stories that people can learn to care about.
That's all I'm saying. I think
like well-adjusted
adults haven't
really watched Mr. Beast

(01:02:22):
because we're good.
We don't want to. And
once I did, I was like, what the
actual this is why kids can't read
like fuck guys.
And this is why everyone
loves like
crypto and
like really thinks that Elon Musk is
going to save the world. Like it is a dangerous
like little

(01:02:44):
cult of Beastie
Boys. I've the comments on my
videos are like very
disarming sometimes. But
yeah, all that to say he
really like
you said he's really good at giving
people a taste of like no, no, no.
The system is good because then
I made all this money and I'm a good person
at least. So I'm going to give it all away

(01:03:06):
to people. And like that's why this works
because a soul savior
billionaire is going
to save you guys. Look, I can do it.
I'm a good person. And I just feel like that's kind
of the vibe he exudes all the time
whether he's trying to or not.
But yeah, go ahead.
No, no, you're completely valid.
I think did your
point on does he really know what is going on?

(01:03:28):
I've always argued
that every capitalist is class conscious.
Every capitalist knows
exactly what they're doing. They know the game
which is why they're playing 100%
best. They've come to
a point where
they're part of the game is to
make sure that you don't know
what's up. It's all part of the
game to make sure they get more to the back.

(01:03:50):
Why would they tell you that this is a game
where everybody can win? Where by
any logical endpoint
that is not true because
you feeling like a fucking idiot about it
only helps them. Every
capitalist knows that. They're much smarter
than what you let them be on which is why
which is why
they love to play dumb, dude. They
love to pretend like no

(01:04:12):
no, I don't know. What
guys? I have no idea.
Mark Cuban?
They play dumb.
They play dumb but think about it
this way. Do you think you're
playing dumb when you're trying to
tell a trying to convince
a child to eat their vegetables
or when you're trying to convince a child
to go to bed on time

(01:04:34):
just because like not because
they have to go to bed at 9pm but because
you want to stay awake till
10pm after. You're not
thinking that
you're
thinking that you're not necessarily thinking that you're manipulating
somebody. You think you're giving them the
best direction because you still
have this it's why capitalism
and neoliberal thought can get so much into

(01:04:56):
can get so close to race realism.
You think of
course your position is like this.
Of course I'm supposed to
be here because you have to apologize
because everybody has some
sort of moral crux so you have to
apologize when things get a little too heated.
You know?
Could you explain what race realism
is in one sentence for the audience?

(01:05:18):
Maybe everybody doesn't know exactly what that means.
Race realism
in one sentence is
is giving
a material platform
to race science
in a way. It's the idea that
instead of...
Yeah I would say a good example
is Africa.
You would not

(01:05:40):
question why Africa is on this place.
You wouldn't think
oh European nations
western nations
oh I get it now.
Oh I get it now.
To make sure that Africa wasn't developed.
Race realism would have you think
from a neoliberal perspective that
they just couldn't understand how to use the materials
gun, germs, and steel.

(01:06:02):
We just had the superior force
the superior technology, the superior religion.
You're not tackling the material consequences of
Africans had the gold, silver, and ivory.
We're going to ignore the fact that
African nations were known
throughout medieval history
most other
historical books
most medieval facts
had African nations

(01:06:24):
were known as rich, they were known as strong.
They weren't known as being poor.
They weren't known as being idiots.
They had none of these connotations.
The idea of African nations
being poor, being idiots, or being
quote unquote slaves is such a
recent phenomenon in the grand scheme
of human history.
So race realism
would not tackle

(01:06:46):
the history, the military conditions
the economics of why
western nations had to come to Africa
and be like hey we're going to fuck you over.
It's not going to attack us.
Would you say that race realism
is rooted in white supremacy?
White supremacy
yes.
And for everybody talking about this I cannot

(01:07:08):
No, yeah.
White supremacy is a western concept
I would say
I would argue the fact that it is an American
concept before the pilgrims
before the colonists came to America
they did not come to us white.
If you were Scottish you were either Highlander
or Lowlander. If you were
from France you were either
you were either northern Catholic

(01:07:30):
or southern Catholic. Those were the
differences. Nobody gave a shit about skin color.
No, we were the melting pot for the white people.
It wasn't until James Brown
one of the Irish indentured servants
was talking to
African indentured servants
and African slaves and Irish indentured servants
and he realized oh wait we're all getting fucked over
by the same white
English landowners.

(01:07:52):
We should have a revolution.
That was so successful and the only reason it failed
is because James Brown caught
dysentery and shit himself to death.
But right after
that happened that's when you get the first
whites only sign in America
because the original landowners
realized okay hey you guys
shouldn't fight us we're wearing the same
fucking uniform.

(01:08:14):
You know who's really making
your life hell in the violent atmosphere
that's America?
Those African slaves who are just making things too hard
right now because we're dealing with the Native Americans
we're dealing
with we're doing food supply control
and you can imagine in such a
virtually virulent violent
culture as America was in the early
ages this was such an easy idea to

(01:08:36):
grasp like hey I'm just trying to
make sure my kids can eat
I'm just trying to make sure they're good
you're telling me those are the bad guys and I
get a couple points if you just because
I was born this way? Yeah fuck yeah.
That seems a really simple concept in the 1700s.
Rant over. I have
no idea.
White supremacy.
It's not the 1700s.

(01:08:58):
It's American.
White supremacy is uniquely American.
Still here.
I'm excited to talk on the internet.
Gold fucking six points for me.
Let's give
me my kudos.
Using my privilege.
Speaking of Africa
and exploitation and
I'm sure that the

(01:09:20):
whole white whatever
we were just fucking talking about.
What was I talking about?
White supremacy. Oh the race realism.
Race realism. I'm sure this can tie into the Congo
somehow. I'm sure we've used
race realism.
Somehow at some point to justify
you know. I just know something's
going on in the Congo. I personally I just know
something and it's bad and I would love

(01:09:42):
I'm just gonna let you go and
yeah
Your segues are wild.
I know. Got you.
When it comes to the Congo
I could go
I could talk for minutes about the
thousands and thousands of years of
rich history the Congo has but to break
down the bullet points
Congolese colonization really

(01:10:04):
I would say Congolese colonization really
didn't start with the Belgians. The Congo
has been in large
part a great trading partner with
medieval Europe since the 1400s
they've been trading with the Portuguese since the
1400s. My mom strives specifically
to Luba been trading with the Portuguese since the
1400s. My family's been Catholic since
1400s.
So we African nation

(01:10:26):
and I say all that to destroy the
myth that as soon as Europeans even
touched an African colonization happened
like the Roman
Africa was part of the Roman Empire
like every like Africa was
widely known Monsomouza was
Monsomouza the myth of the
Amazonians were all things that came because of
Africa. So I say that point to destroy the
myth that Europeans and Africans

(01:10:48):
just could never get along because I hear that a lot.
But to
fast forward a bit to the modern age
of the Congo where does it start? Well
Africa starts with the scramble of Africa within the
1800s.
You see
Belgium a new
nation at this point younger than America
was at this point they just received their
independence from

(01:11:10):
the French the Finnish
what's up with the
Belgian Congo?
If you didn't pull it I was just going to make
a point real quick that I
this is a high guy thought that I just had.
So you know how there's conspiracy
theories about like how
the aliens aliens built pyramids
and shit?
I quite literally

(01:11:32):
never know what's going to come out of his mouth. I've never
like thought about
like history channel
level conspiracy theories and white
supremacy at the same time.
But it kind of feels a
little bit like a little bit
hello alphabet agencies like a
Psyop to
discredit the fact
we're like

(01:11:54):
Egyptians are African they couldn't have
fucking built the pyramids. It had to have been aliens dude.
And then somebody like perfectly
theorizes and like makes them a little
like cartoon of how the
Africans in Egypt
would have made the
pyramids and they're like nope. Could be. Fucking
aliens dude.
Because to admit that they're sophisticated
yeah yeah that's the actual point

(01:12:16):
I was trying to make so thank you for making that very
concise. You're very
smart.
Check the degree. Check the degree.
Fuck Jubilee.
It is so nice
talking to someone else who's smart
like I'm not saying that I'm smart but
it's nice talking to someone else who's smart.
Anybody who's a connoisseur is smart.
Let's stop the shit.

(01:12:38):
If you're a connoisseur, if you're a socialist
if you come to those two words you
are a smart individual. It is
not take it takes a very
dumb person to never question
their environment. And if you make less
than like a million dollars you
are a fucking communist. My
god. You guys what are you guys
yeah what are you guys boot licking
for? What are you guys

(01:13:00):
why are you boot licking so hard?
Like do you have a
yacht? Are you Mr. Facebook?
Like what is the deal?
No you're living in San Francisco.
You can pay for your apartment
because you make $400,000 a year
at your software engineering job. You get two
bedrooms now. Oh yeah. You don't need to save
that much money. Yeah. And it's like no you
guys would also benefit from

(01:13:22):
I'm just gonna let you cook. You know?
This is just a random thought
more of a I'm planting the seeds
so maybe someone is like hey
you haven't made the episode about this yet
in like a couple weeks. I'll be like oh my god thank you so
much. So I really want to do an episode about
the advertising
industry as it stands now cause
you said something about
the fact that like advertising has always

(01:13:44):
existed. Like that's not a new concept
in capitalism either. Yeah I had to stop when he
said this. But it's like as it stands
now I used to work in digital marketing
that's what my degree is in.
And I have a degree too.
We have one cell. We know I was just saying we have one cell.
Oh I thought you were saying a brain cell.
We're sharing a brain cell. I had this thought
earlier I just never told you. But
yeah. Yeah digital

(01:14:06):
marketing as it stands now with
like search ads and how much
fucking money gets funneled through
Google to
Facebook and every
all of them. Any ad platform. I'm not
singling anyone out. There's just big tech.
Yeah yeah no the way
the industry has evolved
and where it stands today it is just so
fucked up. People

(01:14:28):
don't realize how much money is moving
through there too. Like I
saw the numbers and
those are not the biggest ones. It is
it feels like one big
fucking money laundering scheme.
And I'm not saying that's what it is because
it's a comedy podcast but fuck
it saddens
me because advertising
can be so creative

(01:14:50):
and so like you said it's
existed forever. Speaking of ads
have existed forever. Malumbo you said you had
something you wanted to plug. Oh we said
we wanted to do it at the weirdest time.
I think it's good.
Plug plug. Listen you get
bonus points if you can then segue it
directly into talking about the Congo
again. Easy easy.
Okay. So you can plug for as long as possible and

(01:15:12):
then just if it when it comes it just comes.
Go right into the Congo easy.
So what's up good everybody. My name is
Malumbo.
Aka the Black Alley Mary.
Aka the greatest rapper to ever exist.
I got the radical rap. I got
the converse rap. So I have this song called
Mosh Kings coming out January
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trap gangster kind

(01:15:34):
of pop rap banger. It's featuring
some of my favorite people. A Chinese
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in the walk but we call him Noodle. He chose
it not me. And a rapper
from San Francisco named Little Flavor
Go. It's a banger. I swear to God.
It's one of my favorite songs. It's called Mosh
Kings. And speaking of kings
let's talk about King Leopold II.
So better known as the builder of King.

(01:15:56):
See how I did that. See how I
flossed. See how the boy flossed.
So Congolese
colonization starts with King Leopold II
better known as the builder king at least in
Belgian history. So one of the
things that Belgium tries to do as a newly
formed nation they just got their freedom from
the Dutch is to legitimize their existence
through colonial competition.

(01:16:18):
So
this is happening all over the world
Latin America, Southeast Asia,
France and Vietnam.
And most notably Sub-Saharan Africa.
So the scramble of Africa
happens and King Leopold
is able to convince
the others that he's just going to grab
the entirety of the Belgian state.
I very much am doing an anarchistic

(01:16:40):
take of what actually happened.
But essentially the difference between
what Belgium did
with Belgium versus other European nations
is that
England and Nigeria
for example. Nigeria was considered a
commonwealth of England.
Congo though was property
of King Leopold II.
Not part of the nation.

(01:17:02):
It was for King Leopold to
essentially like raise his
opiases and all his riches
and what not.
So this comes
with a lot of problems of course.
You don't get the same level
of national
what's a great way
to say it.
You don't get peer view

(01:17:24):
anything that
you do within the nation is not peer review.
If you were example to do a hands quota
which would happen within the Belgian Congo
where if you weren't able to build
a certain amount of train tracks within a certain day
you would have your hand cut off.
Obviously that's not being peer viewed for other European nations
like oh what's going on there.
So this happens where
Belgium colonizes Congo.

(01:17:46):
Sorry I don't know if you've already said
this. What year was this roughly?
Like give or take. I don't know if I missed that.
Be real with me. Do you guys want
me to go really deep into the breakdown?
Because I'm looking right now at Google Docs
where I broke it down really specifically.
Let's do it. Literally go as deep as you want.
We got no time limits here.
I'm listening right now.
I am too. I'm locked in.

(01:18:08):
Okay.
That's actually amazing.
Okay.
We're going to pick up the
Belgians in 1830.
In the 1830s there are freshly born newly independent
nation states as they freed themselves from the
Dutch. They immediately set up a constitutional
monarchy which is going to play a role in
colonial exploitation.
And we're going to be

(01:18:30):
talking about going forward here. As a new country
one of the things that the Belgians decided
is that to build
up the offices of their monarchy they need
new colonization like I said.
Now we preface
this idea that in order to
legitimize monarchies back in Europe
at this day colonization was
needed. The European nations
were landlocked. They didn't. They've

(01:18:52):
already used up most of the resources. They already used
up most of the real estate and land.
Imperialism
which is what Lenin has said is
the final stage of capitalism. In order
to grow your wealth you need to be able to exploit
the natural resources of the global south
outside of your borders.
So there's a
vast array of natural resources throughout the African
continent. Obviously it's huge. And one of the things

(01:19:14):
yeah, as a, yeah, exploit
that. And one of the things you can do as a fresh baby
country is exploit the labor and natural resources
of the continent and take them back to home.
So
Belgium obviously wanted to build the economy,
build a prestige.
They got to do it. So this is the 19th
century to give you, to answer your point about the date.
And both the ideal

(01:19:36):
material rationale for the wildly immoral
praxis of colonial enterprises, yeah,
to build your prestige.
Let's see.
Also feel free guys in the final edit
to edit the hell out of this.
We'll edit it. Oh, we're gonna edit it.
We'll see. Let's go. Sometimes
we edit, sometimes we don't. It's a
toss up. I'm also gonna fix the light
real quick. Did our light go

(01:19:58):
off? Yeah, it did go off and it's
gonna, yeah. We gotta fix that
light real quick. No, you're good, you're good.
I'll keep going on. By the 1830s,
1840s, and 1850s,
most of the European countries are piling
themselves in the back for
quote unquote abolishing, translating
slavery at first.
And then abolishing slavery within their home country.
So they're feeling somewhat in line now.

(01:20:20):
But that doesn't stop them from
changing the discourse
and using this point of saying
yeah, the reason we're in Africa
was for economic reasons. The
reason we're colonizing Africa is because
we've gotten rid of slavery and we just
want to make sure that slavery is done
within the African continent. And that's where you get
the stereotype of
Africans are enslaving their own people.

(01:20:42):
African kingdom are actually
the slave kingdoms. This is where you get the
stereotype from. This is where you get the stereotype from.
From the scramble for Africa. So this is what
the wider public thinks and within
closed doors, kings are just saying like yo, let's
get their fucking natural resources. I'm
tired of paying premium dollar
for rubber. Because it's not as if
African nations didn't know they
had these resources. They knew they had gold.

(01:21:04):
They knew they had ivory. They knew
they had rubber. They knew they had coal. They knew
they had all these things. But they were
discharging a premium that the European
nations no longer wanted to pay.
Because once again, if they
paid a fair, if they paid a fair
rate for that stuff
then they wouldn't be able to take
all of the shit that they're taking.
Like that's why they

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have to take
all of these resources.
They have to invade Iran and
take, you know, when they try to nationalize
their oil. They have
to invade Guatemala when
they kick United
out. Same thing
with Cuba. It's like speaking of Cuba.
It's always
it's gonna be edited

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before I talk about Cuba. Yeah.
Well no, not about that.
I was just gonna let
Corey explain something real quick. Funny
thing about the light, by the way. The light
was never on. Definitely
not. Yeah, I was gonna say, you're like, you're like
looks great. Yeah, now it looks better. But speaking of Cuba a little bit
shout out to Shay and his help with the Congo.
I'll speak on that point later. But
by the 1800s though, fewer European countries

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have gotten control of the central Congo.
Congo is a massive jungle.
Most of the Congo is a jungle.
A lot of medieval stories
take place in the jungles of the Congo.
When you hear jungles in the past, they're usually said in the Congo.
Shouts out to
Tintin.
But
of course, Europeans have a problem accessing
the Congo because of the jungle. Even during

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the mid 1400s when the Portuguese were
more or less kicking off transatlantic
slavery and their
travels were throughout Africa, they still could not crack
the jungles of the Congo.
But because of this geographic reason
and because nobody else has touched it, the
Belgians were like, oh shit, that's me. King
Wupo was like, oh yeah, that's all gonna be
me. I got that king. I got that king.

(01:22:54):
I'm curious. Where in, sorry
just real quick, where in Africa is
the Congo? If you had to describe, I can
picture the continent of Africa and I feel like I
know a few places, but I honestly couldn't
like I couldn't write out, like I could write
every state, like where every state is I feel like.
Definitely couldn't do that with Africa.
Maybe that'll be a challenge for me. But where's the Congo?
So the Congo is in the easiest
location in Africa. It is nicknamed

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the heart of Africa.
Congo's right smack
center of the continent. It is the third
largest nation.
Yeah, dead ass the jungle.
Dead ass the jungle. Which is why
the Roman Empire was really only North Africa
because they could not crack the jungle.
Horses could not survive within the
jungles of the Congo because they had this thing
called, I forgot what the exact fly

(01:23:38):
was, but it would kill any horses, which is
why horse combat in medieval
Congolese history doesn't exist.
Horse combat never existed from
sub-Saharan Africa because horses just could
would get sick and they
would die. It was considered just a foreign
yeah, it was considered a foreman military
commerce that just didn't happen. So
there is your Congolese fun fact for
people that didn't know. But yes,

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the Belgians are looking at the Congo.
The Congo River itself is one of the most
important rivers in terms of humanization going
back, back 100,000 years in terms
of human development.
And using the Congo
River, they're able to crack within the Congo.
Using their
using the existing connections with
that they had with the Portuguese, the
Belgians were able to elevate

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the strongest tribe, not the strongest
tribe, but the tribe that had the longest connection
with the Portuguese at the time, the Luba.
So in fact, my parents, my mom's side
is from the Luba tribe. They've been they were
the first to trade with the Portuguese.
And that's essentially just how colonization
worked. They would get the biggest
tribe, the tribe, either the biggest
tribe or the tribe that had the most
conflict with the tribe that didn't

(01:24:44):
really like colonization. And they
would rise them up to a level of colonizer
because it's not like in America where
you had the number difference. You're in Africa.
You can't you can't do things
like Jim Crow. Everybody's black, bro.
It's just not going to work out.
So you have to get tribes to be against other
tribes. I have
I have I have one
quote from King Leopold's Ghost.

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He says
it's promise he uses the priest named Sambwa
who is who's in the Congo
watching the atrocities. He's speaking
of the Belton officer named Leon
Fiese. He says
he ran a district north of a place
called Stanley Pool. And to quote the
priest, he said all black
saw this man as the devil of the equator
from all the bodies killed in the field.

(01:25:28):
You have to cut off the hands. He wanted
to see the number of hands cut off
by each soldier who
to bring them to who bring them his
baskets. If a village refused
to provide rubber, they would be
completely swept clean.
I think you know what swept clean means here
in this context. As a young man
rubber
the resource rubber

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Yeah, I would say before the
cobalt boom that we see within the
late 1960s, rubber
was the big thing that Congo was
provided to the larger world.
Congo Congo is just rich in
material resources guys. We was kings.
So
everything
dead ass. So
the basket of severed hands

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became also became the symbol
of the Congolese free state
through journalism and activism
and a lot of post abolition work.
Most of the world became
most of the world learned of the atrocities
that was happening in the Congo. No
different than what people reacted
when they found out about the conditions of the
apartheid. There were widespread
sanctions. King Leopold actually

(01:26:34):
famously did his own independent
investigation of what was happening in the Congo
free state. Saying like, oh, if
all those things are really all those bad things are really
happening, let my people go and see.
And famously his own investigator came
and said, yeah, you're actually doing all that bad shit, bro.
And he
didn't realize that when he hired him, he gave him
a clause saying that he could explain
to the public first before he explained

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to King Leopold in a way of
good faith. So everybody
learned that Belgium was actually
doing this fuck shit.
And it was on the king's dime, essentially.
And then
during the 1960s with the wave of
of free and the
wave of independence that was happening through
many African nations funded by the USSR.
Let me just remind everybody listening to the podcast.

(01:27:18):
The USSR funded the largest
coil. Let's go.
The USSR funded the largest
decolonization efforts within Africa
from Angola to Kenya.
I do not think the decolonization was evil.
I thought the USSR was evil. Right?
Oh, because communism, yeah.
Right? I forgot. I'll make this point right here.
I genuinely did grow up in a place where like
communism, like, I don't know

(01:27:40):
I feel like we probably
didn't grow up in the same place. But like
I grew up in a place where like
my law teacher in high school
was like, do you know what the
Drudge report is?
Probably not.
It's like, it's all the worst news
sources. It's like Breitbart and like
it was like Infowars back in the day and shit.
And we were like reading current

(01:28:02):
events via the Drudge. And that was
fine. That was my law teacher. He was
a source of authority for me. That's insane.
I've ironed it out.
But it was a tough
it was a tough stuff. It's an uphill battle.
So I was born in
Dallas, Texas, and I grew up in Colorado
so I know what you're coming from. I grew up in a
right wing area, trust.
Yeah, this stuff is just

(01:28:24):
normalized now.
And to give everybody who's listening to this a break
I didn't know this until
literally college when I had the time to
learn more information. And I
and after everything I've learned
I do not think
African, I do not think
modern African states would have been
decolonized without the existence of the USSR.
I'll die on that hill 100%.

(01:28:46):
Without the USSR, Nigeria
would still be the Commonwealth of Great
Britain 100%.
So what did decolonization...
They're like the only major force that stepped in.
They're the only thing. By far.
The only one. And it's like
I don't know. It seems like they didn't
fix all the problems obviously.
But they definitely
they made an impact and we don't like that.

(01:29:08):
Yup. No.
Bars. Bars. And to
nip my story, historical
point, makeshift yada yada
in the bud. Where we
come today in modern points is
we see the abuse of the World Bank
and IMF in trade negotiations
that happen in the Congo. If
somebody were to send a bowling ball
if somebody were to mine for example a bowling ball

(01:29:30):
from the Congo and they were to send it to any
place else in the world, most
exchange of goods would be
tested based off their weight,
based off their shape. But because
of the corruption between the World Bank and
IMF, somebody could look at something like a bowling ball
and it will save $5 and
they won't question that. Just
because of the
dictates that they have

(01:29:52):
currently within the Congo
and their trade agreements with the World Bank and IMF.
There's no legitimate control
with their goods that are going out. There's no
legitimate control within their exports or their
imports. This is what I
meant when I talked about in the Jubilee video that
the disorder within the country only helps
it capture the home because you're getting everything at a premium.
If the Congo actually had
full control... Robbery! If the Congo

(01:30:14):
had full control of their cobalt,
unfortunately your iPhone would be
$3,000 market price.
That's...
That's the reality.
I genuinely don't think that iPhones
would even have... Like maybe I don't know
the numbers. I feel like
if we didn't do what we're
doing in the Congo,
or maybe we pay them

(01:30:36):
when they own it. We don't pay
them. I slipped up. I'm sorry.
We
let them buy it from them.
We do pay certain
people. It doesn't go to the people. I guess
that's probably a misconception
I should tell people.
When people talk about all these warlords
committing killings, these warlords
are incentivized by

(01:30:58):
the global market to do
it. They're incentivized to control
these mining fields because they know if
they control these mines, they still get
money. In a way, these
warlords are the true
capitalists within the
dysfunction of the Congo. They understand
the material
the value of the material resources.
They're not stupid.

(01:31:20):
They're just doing a market grab.
Honestly. From their perspective,
they're doing a market grab with an AK-47.
That's all there is. They're just
trying to grab some liquidated assets.
They're doing right at the nip.
My
thing here is let's just say everyone is
treated fairly somehow. We could just
snap our fingers and everybody is treated fairly.
I truly don't even think that the iPhones

(01:31:42):
would have to be three grand if
they just made a little less profit.
I think they could subsidize the cost of
iPhones considering once you buy
an iPhone. Once I bought an iPhone,
I bought a fucking MacBook because I wanted to do
iMessage and they just made how much money
on the Mac. Right? You get you in.
Maybe they don't make any money on the iPhone.
Maybe iPhone is free. Maybe we can just go
get an iPhone.

(01:32:04):
In a global
communist system, 100%,
you are so valid. If everybody
was just treated like a
fucking human being, bro, they were just like
hey yo, you have this?
We got this? Let's
not be assholes to each other. Maybe so.
Maybe.
And speaking of people-
Friday night IDK?

(01:32:26):
Well, so this is like kind of this whole
conversation is about being-
or people being exploited, right?
That's the gist of what's going on
in the Congo. It's like exploitation to the greatest
degree. By far.
It's hyper capitalism. What's wrong
with the Congo? It's hyper capitalism.
Anybody trying to say Congo is socialist,
trying to say Congo is feudal, trying to
say it's a failed state, Congo is not a failed

(01:32:48):
state. It's like saying we don't have true
capitalism. Capital is working just as
intended, capitalism is working just as intended
as in the Congo. You can be-
when I go to Kinshasa in the Congo,
there's plenty of capitalism. I will see
I will see
a Mercedes Benz
in the Congo. I will see a Rolls-Royce
driving around in one of the poorest
nations in the world. I will see sports

(01:33:10):
cars. What does that
tell you what the environment is really like?
There are more Mercedes Benz
in Kinshasa, the capital of Congo
for people to know. There are more Mercedes Benz
in Kinshasa than there ever is in the
entirety of LA. That will tell you
the situation. That's crazy.
And they will all be, and guess
what? Most of- I would say 70%
of the time, there's a European behind the wheel

(01:33:32):
because we have huge European
towns that I've realized that most
Americans don't understand because
these multi-corporations are coming with their own mining
towns. Who the fuck do you think the managers
are? And where the fuck do you think
the manager is going to stay at? They're going to stay
in the local African village.
They're going to stay in the village that the
corporation just builds up.
It's so easy for people to imagine

(01:33:54):
all these, what do they call
here in the suburbs,
projects, not projects, developments.
Developments. Oh, dude, developments are
the bane of my existence. Developments are
everywhere in Africa,
everywhere, and they look exactly
like suburban America, bro.
That's colonialism.
They look exactly like- if you
see the development- We're exporting fucking

(01:34:16):
suburbs. No.
Literally. They look
so weird too, man. Oh, no.
That's one of the worst parts
is we're exporting
the worst part of the US.
No one likes the suburbs,
man. And this must be
because, like, one of their
socialist presidents or something
sold them out to

(01:34:38):
like capitalists, right?
Is that- No. That's what
Lumumba did? It must be, right?
That has to be. Well, that's what everyone
said. Yeah. It was his last words
after, you know, the FBI stuffed
him in the trunk. Please make sure
they're suburbs in the Congo. Yeah.
Yeah, guys. The- one
of the, like, hundred countries
that, you know, the CIA

(01:35:00):
slash Mossad has
probably coup- has definitely couped
is the Congo. And it's not
like they kinda did it. It's like
they deliberately, against
JFK's orders, fucking
killed Patrice Lumumba
after he was elected the president.
It's like crazy.
And they've done this a hundred
times to every fucking country.

(01:35:22):
And we know this. And it's
still, like,
I don't know. It's just madness to me.
It makes me so insane. It makes me go
crazy every day. I don't
get it. I mean, it's just
they have the military. That's all it is.
It's just, we have the biggest military
so no one can say anything else.
And that's it. We just run around
and fucking everyone. Yeah.

(01:35:44):
Hit him in the- Hit again.
If I had to say a
hot take, I don't think
the 60s and 70s age
of assassinations is
possible in the modern age.
I don't think it's possible in the modern global
information age. I have a theory.
I think- I think we're in
the time of
disvaluing somebody is- character

(01:36:06):
assassination is the new assassination.
And unfortunately,
like, America tried picking that up.
And unfortunately, America is really
bad at fucking character
assassination. Yeah. They are
they are, like, to put
it in the-
What's the leader of
the Muslims again? What's his name? The Caliphate?
Nah, wait, that's not the Caliphate.

(01:36:28):
The Caliphate
is- I don't know.
Wait, what's the leader?
I think you're- Whoever was
the guy that called America the Great
Satan?
Caliphate is a- no.
Well, yeah. It's an institution, maybe.
It's an institution or public office
under the leadership of an Islamic steward
under the title of Caliphate. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

(01:36:50):
The state comprising the Muslim community.
Okay, sorry, we're done. Hey, I know my shit.
I know my shit. We're just fact-checking in real time.
But, no.
No, when the Caliphate
called America the Great Satan,
damn, what was my point
before that? Fuck, that was such a far
damn, I never get the chance to use
the word Great Satan. Who often gets to use the word
Great Satan? America. Dude, America

(01:37:12):
is the Great Satan, though.
This is a comedy podcast.
We're joking.
It's hilarious. We want a new-
I'm exercising. We're back to USSA.
USA, baby.
It's so much truer than
everyone realizes. United Social States of America.
Nicole, you know how you worked in digital advertising?
Yeah, with- So, do you think that
digital advertising- So, you know how

(01:37:34):
all of our social media- Instagram sucks now,
TikTok's
starting to kinda fuckin' suck.
It's like a rule with social
media, right? It has to eventually become all ads
and shitty brands
promoting shitty products. That's a rule in capitalism.
It's a rule. Everything is ruined
by capitalism.
And so, do you think that- And that's all
digital marketing. Do you think that digital marketing

(01:37:56):
would exist in the
current state
that it's in?
Or do you think that- Yeah, do you think digital marketing
could exist
under a not-capitalist
society? Because
you would own your data.
Yeah, no, the way that it exists today- So, everything would be free
and you would probably get paid.
Everyone would be a little influencer.

(01:38:18):
That's how it should be.
If you're on Twitter. No, I think digital advertising
as it exists today
could not exist
if it were not under
capitalism because
and this is just off the dome, guys.
I'm just a dumbass comedian.
What do I know?
I just-
Yeah, it's fueled

(01:38:40):
by exorbitant
amounts of money. Is that a word?
Exorbitant? Exorbitant?
Exorbitant?
Exorbitant?
Absorbed?
This is the part of the show
where I plug our website.
HGHHmedia.com
Just in time for Malumbo to come back.
You asked me a question and then plugged?

(01:39:02):
Anyway. Yeah. Well, I realized he was
about to come back and so then I had
to finish the brand deal.
And the brand deal is from my own website.
No, do the brand deal. Do the brand deal. I was dying.
No, it's over. Go to HGHHmedia
to read about Caleb Hammer and Roger
Clay and Peter Thiel and Austin Russell.
HGHHmedia.com
We have t-shirts that a couple people have bought.
They're funny.

(01:39:24):
Once you read about the lore,
the t-shirts are funny.
It is.
But before we go on to two tandas,
because I'm sure somebody is listening, like, yo, finish this point.
Ended up.
So if people want to know what's happening in the Congo,
what's happening in the Congo today
is a tale
old of time.
Personally, I believe that there's so much

(01:39:46):
focus on the Congo today just because
of how morally
bankrupt this situation is in
Israel, Palestine.
Warlords have been causing
warlords for the sake of
capital gain have been causing atrocities
in the Congo since I was a child.
The idea that it's now headlines right now,
I can't help but feel
it is a distraction to

(01:40:08):
very much to the moral failings
that America is committing
through our tax dimes in the Middle East.
That's not me saying
to ignore what's happening in the Congo.
As a Congolese person, there
is a certain amount of
gratefulness I have that people are
paying attention to the country
finally, but I can't help
but look at

(01:40:30):
the grand scheme of things, understand
why it's today
they decide to focus on the Congo.
That it is something
that if you aren't willing to delve into,
it's a situation where
America isn't a
moral accomplice in the situation.
But I'll tell you this now,
unfortunately, they are.
I don't want to be

(01:40:52):
I'm sure some of you say, oh, it's just
oh, common is talking about America is bad.
We can make it even smaller.
The government that we dead ass
pay money to is doing all these things.
When I say make the
connection to the United Nations and the USA,
I make it, like, just think about it.
Guys, we're the largest military in the world.

(01:41:14):
What the fuck is the UN going to
provide militarily in compared to the USA?
Where the hell are they getting Cobra missiles?
Where the hell are they getting Apache helicopters
from the biggest weapon supplier
in the fucking world?
Like Peter. So yeah, that's
no, that's no, that's essentially my car.
He benefits a lot from
the military industrial complex
here. Peter Thiel.

(01:41:36):
Do you know what Palantir is? I won't get us
on a tangent. I promise it's related.
It is related to the history. It is related
to world exploitation. Yeah. So Palantir
is the, what would you call it? It's a private
surveillance company. It's like the CIA,
but it's a publicly traded company.
It's the company that has partnered with ICE
to find
put kids in cages. Yeah. And then I
believe they're also definitely partnered

(01:41:58):
with the border. The
Border Patrol. Probably the, I think
I confirmed actually the IDF, but
I'll say maybe because I don't know.
If it's not Palantir, it's rebranded
Palantir. Yeah. And so the moral of the story there,
yeah. I just love bringing up
Peter Thiel because he is one of the most evil
people that people don't like
know about. And he is,
yeah, just a really big beneficiary

(01:42:20):
of the military industrial complex.
And he's got a bunch of little
puppets, his little Thiel boys
I call them, that run the other
companies. Like, fuck
what's the one that Palmer Lucky? I got beef
with him on Twitter too. Anderil. They sell
drones to the border. Anderil. They literally
have a prototype for a drone that can
like, it's
completely autonomous in air quotes

(01:42:42):
because I don't believe anything that they say.
And it'll, like in the
video, the drone like will come down
and it'll evaluate, it'll like
use the camera and it'll be like
this, I'm doing it, I'm
saying what they do so I can say this.
Is this a Mexican guy or a
South American guy trying to come into the US?
If yes, shoot them. There's a gun attached
to the drone. Oh, it's a white guy,

(01:43:04):
we're probably not going to shoot them.
How can you determine if somebody
is getting shot? They're trying
to, let's not shoot anybody. Right?
They're doing, no, let's not
autonomously fucking shoot people
maybe, or better yet, let's just not.
Let's maybe just not. We'll do a follow up
episode with Malambo where we'll let Nicole
give a present, a power point about
Border Patrol and she'll tell you all about the

(01:43:26):
time that we got arrested by Border Patrol.
We have so much, so much to talk
about. Cause I have a lot of thoughts
on the border situation here in
America and how it relates to
what's happening in Israel.
I know we're on a tangent now, but
we use so much of their tech.
We use all, we use their strategies,
their tech. It has to also
be used all throughout Africa too.

(01:43:48):
Everywhere that we're doing fuck shit, all this
stuff is, it's all
you know? It doesn't exist in
the South. Well right now South Africa
is suing Israel for
the apartheid regime.
And Alan Dershowitz is their lawyer.
Which is fucking
insane. Well we don't know for sure.
He was in talks for it.
It makes sense. Maybe, maybe.

(01:44:10):
It's fitting. Okay wait, we haven't actually
explicitly said this. What is
the mineral that
is currently the big, the hot
mineral to exploit the Congo for?
Cause you said it was rubber before. Oh yeah, I think we
interrupted before. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. So it
was rubber and then it went
into cobalt. Cobalt is essentially
used for your phones,
your vapes.

(01:44:32):
Sorry Congolese kids.
For your phones, your vapes,
your Teslas.
Anything that needs
efficient, conducive electricity
requires cobalt. Is cobalt not
the only mineral? Lithium, ion.
Yeah, lithium is also a good
one, but cobalt is one of the most efficient.
It's very abundant, especially in the Congo.
So they go for cobalt.

(01:44:54):
Oh I was saying lithium ion batteries. They
also, I believe, have cobalt in them.
Right? Oh yes, yes, yes.
So they exploit the cobalt in the lithium.
But lithium is an actual mineral, isn't it?
Yeah, yeah, no. They definitely exploit, they use
how else do they get any fucking mineral
that goes in a battery? They have to,
nobody's ever like actually
done it ethically. Nobody.
Except the people who mine it

(01:45:16):
and then get it stolen from them. Those are the
only people who are not acting unethical in this
food chain. Yeah.
There was even that one, it was
like the Fairphone or something, and
people started posting about it, like
you said, when it just kind of randomly
popped off. I also
think it was a bit of a distra-
not, you worded it
already perfectly. A distraction,

(01:45:38):
it's not a bad thing to learn
about, but it was oddly timed.
And yeah,
I saw some people talking about the Fairphone,
and I looked into it, and I was
like, they say straight up that they
use like the same
mined minerals.
Like they're just more transparent
about it, is all that it is. Like
there truly is like no ethical

(01:46:00):
fucking
I don't know, it's
they're so far gone at this point.
Capitalism is gone.
Oh no, I'm just saying capitalism
is just fucking raged, and
really, we're just
reaping
the-
It's like getting to the point where it's like
almost slavery again, you know?

(01:46:22):
It's like these guys who expect
to get everything,
and everyone else has to
just deal with what's left at the bottom.
You know? They truly
that's what they think.
They believe that they deserve
everything. That is what
they think, and that we are their human
cattle. I would say the only ethical
conception that could happen within the Congo

(01:46:44):
like where we're still using cobalt,
is if all these
corporations using it for phones and
Tesla are buying their cobalt
from a Congolese company.
They're not doing that.
They're doing it from
back door ends.
We all know they're getting their minerals
straight from warlords.
It's not like blood diamonds.

(01:47:06):
They're going straight to
warlords to pick up all these
minerals. There's no national
Congolese cobalt ministry nation.
There's no Congolese
cobalt administration
that was run by a state organization
by the Congo. That's
ethical conception of cobalt
within the Congo. You are paying
a state

(01:47:28):
apparatus who is in control of this
mineral consumption, who
through these means and through the exchange of
goods can create
meaningful
and less
haphazard ways
to actually mine this mineral.
If it's actually legitimized through
sacredization, they don't need fucking children.
It's organized so they can get

(01:47:50):
adult. It can be organized. They can have
companies. They can have rules, fail saves,
OSI, OCC, a bunch
of acronyms and alphabet agencies
and whatnot to make sure these things go on ethically.
But it's not. It's warlords
with an AK-47 pointing at
people saying, mine out this
mineral. I need to sell it to some white people overseas.
That's how it is right now.
We can still get

(01:48:12):
cobalt, which is what I want to tell people to have, but we just
need to actually
pay the people.
You actually need to pay the organization
that can bring in those profits
and help their people. That's all I'm saying.
That's my point about the Congo.
I hope that taught people a lot.
Boom bada bing,
Malamba!
Yeah!

(01:48:34):
Thank you for
telling us so much.
Yeah, that really filled in so many
gaps for me because
it's hard too when
it really does feel like
such an information war at all times
and you feel like you
want to know things
and sometimes you feel like you can't even
trust what you're

(01:48:56):
learning because you know that
they want to push a certain narrative over here
for certain reasons.
Yeah, no, thank you so much
for just telling
it like it is.
I just noticed that Dante pulled up.
I have a presentation for you.
I think he has a special presentation for you.
I think we're going to end the show with a special presentation.
Can you see

(01:49:18):
the screen?
I can't.
Okay, sorry.
Okay, cool.
On the screen right now is a picture
of wrestling Ed, Midwestern Marks.
This is Eddie Liger.
He was featured in the Jubilee video
with Malambo.
I think we mentioned it
already. I think he did a great job

(01:49:40):
in the video. No qualms
with the points he made. However,
we have had experience with
this guy on Twitter and we
have seen him around for quite some
time now.
We kind of know what he's about.
His
rise on TikTok
I think it really began
with when

(01:50:02):
people were talking about what was
happening in Palestine. He really
popped off on TikTok and I just
think people should know
who Eddie is.
He's had a little bit of a platform for a while.
He wasn't unknown.
I'll tell you my background with wrestling Ed.
I call him wrestling Ed because I'll give
Ed the credit Ed deserves.
Ed is a good wrestler.

(01:50:24):
I think he's Olympic
tier.
The man's a good wrestler. I admire
his ability to stick with it.
This is
Eddie's Midwestern Marks and I have beef
with him. This is why.
What happened was
I had followed Ed for a while
on Twitter
and on TikTok.

(01:50:46):
Generally, I thought he was pretty
good. I was like, oh damn, this is just like a
good old boy from
the Midwest who just
he's a wrestler and he's a communist.
That's kind of a weird thing that kind of
breaks my brain.
I grew up in the Midwest as well.
My high school was very good at wrestling.
Another fact about my law teacher
that I talked about earlier

(01:51:08):
is that he was also the wrestling coach.
He's showing
alt-right news to
his class of 16 and 17
year olds. He's also the wrestling coach.
To see Ed
totally opposite of him.
He reminded me of them
in terms of how
he looked and talked.
He's a wrestling guy.

(01:51:30):
It's like, oh, I feel like what happened
with you is maybe when you were younger
you grew up in the Midwest
wrestler and you were kind of
like how I was.
Naturally, you think that being conservative is
correct or whatever.
You leave and go to college and you're like, oh wait, these guys are idiots.
Maybe that's what happened with Ed.
I liked Ed. I liked Ed's content
a lot. I was like, okay,

(01:51:52):
cool. Most of the time he's spitting.
He's making funny little stuff.
He said that he was going on
he was going to be able to be on a big platform
that normally doesn't give communist platforms.
I was like, oh shit, that's cool.
He was talking about Jubilee. I didn't know it at the time.
I donated to him.
I helped with food
or whatever. I gave him a little bit of money
to buy food, help him with the trip.

(01:52:14):
It's expensive.
Then he went on Jubilee.
We found you.
I was like, damn, Willemba, don't miss.
I was like, oh, that's weird. Ed's wearing a
Black Rifle Coffee Company hat.
I don't know if you noticed that.
It's something that I noticed.
Do you know what Black Rifle Coffee Company is?
It's like

(01:52:36):
it's like the
it'd be like Ben Shapiro
would definitely do a brand deal with them.
They'd be like, I'm a company that only
works with conservatives.
They're like MAGA adjacent.
That's kind of a weird hat to wear.
Maybe he's doing it for optics.
That's something that I could see myself doing.
You're going on Jubilee as a communist
and then the MAGA Republican guy

(01:52:58):
sees your Black Rifle hat and you're like, oh, maybe this guy's pretty cool.
Oh, and he's a wrestler? Yeah, sick.
Gave him a lot of benefit of the dollar.
He did a good job on Jubilee.
Ultimately, I don't think I'm upset with my donation because I feel that
the money that I sent to Ed
helps
overall was a net positive. He spread a pretty good message.
But
this clip was funny.
I think I'm going to make us watch it.

(01:53:20):
This was the clip where
he interrupted a woman
about woman being empowered in communist society.
I hope it's not going to share it.
Women are more empowered in a communist society.
Here's a really good book on this called
Why Women Have Better...
You want Bunny to go first?

(01:53:42):
No, no, no, go ahead, go ahead.
As a man.
What happened here is
they're on Jubilee and it was
communist and capitalist and they were debating
if women are more empowered in a communist society.
As a man.
I think everyone here would say yes.
As a woman, I agree.
I agree with the woman.
So, the question,

(01:54:04):
that's the question, correct me if I'm wrong,
but I believe all three of the communists
stepped up and all three of the capitalists
did not.
They have babies, women can get pregnant.
So, Ed steps up and Ed's right, but I still think
it's funny
that Ed just didn't let that conversation
happen before he talked.
He jumps over and I believe he cites the book
Women Have More

(01:54:26):
Orgasms
Under Capitalism.
Have Better Sex, sorry.
I thought it was Have More Orgasms.
I fully believe that and I haven't read the book, but I'm sure
it's a good book. I think you said you read the book.
It makes perfect sense.
They have more freedom, they're generally
more relaxed and that's like, you know,
sex ed right here.
But it's just funny how Ed

(01:54:48):
spoke up over and then he realized
what he did and got a little embarrassed,
rightfully so.
No, no, no, go ahead, go ahead.
Go ahead, go ahead.
I'm like, as a man.
And then
walked it back and then she was like, no, no, no.
You're good, go first.
And then it was, okay, but it was still a little funny.
And so that was- And this in itself-

(01:55:10):
That's not bad. I would fuck up like that.
I interrupt people all the time.
It was more we thought it was funny. Thought it was funny.
It's funnier now. I didn't think much
of it at the time. Because of what we will show you.
But now that he's, yeah. So do you know who
Jackson Hinkle is?
Or do you not? Okay, so
gosh, you're so much more
normal than me. It's awesome.
The TLDR

(01:55:32):
of it
is he's a grifter on the internet.
He used to be like a
Tulsi Gabbard grifter who was very
anti-nuclear energy.
He was like really big into anti-
and very pro-oil.
Right, it's like, okay.
And then at some point
he was like trying to do
like a lefty grift, but we all know that

(01:55:54):
doesn't work. And then now-
The poorest, most annoying people- And then he
became a Nazi. And then he was just
a Nazi, I think, where he's like literally
saying that the Holocaust. And then now
he's like a MAGA
communist who like-
Whatever the fuck that means.
Which I don't quite get because like
you can't have communism if
you're doing MAGA.

(01:56:16):
They feel contradictory, at least to me.
Now, Ed is like good
friends with them on Twitter.
And you know, maybe-
I think the thing that Ed does is Ed is usually
correct in his like-
He knows history really well, and I think he is
really well read. That's what it seems like
at least. And so he knows
about things like how
media does with leaders they want to overthrow like

(01:56:38):
Assad, comparing him to Hitler.
I don't know a ton about Assad, but I feel like
comparing- Off-Rib, this is a stretch.
For 10 years, what I'm trying to understand here.
Yeah, so Jackson
Hinkle, right, is now a MAGA
communist, which right, doesn't
compute. And so why is Ed
trying to like
social hack it? The big thing with Jackson
that he's done is he has gone-

(01:57:00):
He's gained like 3 million followers
on Twitter since the Palestine shit
kicked off on October 7th.
He has been like-
So he'll post information about Palestine
that is like factually accurate,
but he's like paused
on the being a Nazi, at least
optically. You know, so like
what he's doing is like gathering an audience,
I think. He's gathering an audience of people,

(01:57:22):
right, and then eventually he's going to go back to being
a Nazi, and he's going to retain some of that audience.
So he's saying free- He's saying the free
Palestine stuff, but instead of making
the distinction of, I'm speaking
about Israelis, not the- not
Judaism, he is doing everything
but that. Because like, leftist will be like
we are criticizing Israel
as a nation. He is
criticizing the Jewish people.

(01:57:44):
Yes, he is one of those people that will
He says Zionist, but he means
Jewish. Sometimes, but sometimes it's even
more ambiguous where, yeah,
he knows what he's doing and he knows
who he's tailoring these
things to, because
yeah, like you said, mega communist,
like his Twitter following,
yeah. And then back to Eddie, so yeah,
so Eddie's been buddy-buddy with Jackson. Yeah, okay, so this is kind of what I said.

(01:58:06):
Oh yeah, he also,
Hinkle also got hired on the board of a
CIA contractor think tank at the age of
18, so, and Jackson's not
that old, he's probably 28,
30 maybe, so this was kind of recent.
I don't trust Jackson Hinkle, not one
fucking bit. And Eddie was like
fighting everyone
over Jackson. And we're like,
no dude, this looks really bad.

(01:58:28):
So then he started talking about like
Trump Derangement Syndrome, which is another
MAGA talking point, which
I don't know, I just,
oh this one was about, he was getting pissed
that Colorado said Trump couldn't be on
the ballot. I think that's what the tweet was.
Hey yo, shoutout to Colorado,
Scobus, baby. Shoutout Colorado!
So that's what, that's what, that's what, that's what wrestling Ed was
mad about. And then, so actually,

(01:58:50):
yeah, I think the next one is when
we start jumping. Yeah, this is when I started interjecting.
So then we start calling him wrestling Ed.
At this rate, wrestling Ed is gonna vote for
the bad orange man. Damn, I need to get a check mark on Twitter, I was wondering why
I was doing that.
We canceled it, we bought it for a month.
Yeah, we'll tell that story a different time,
bought it for a month because I was like
being a full menace, like getting in people,
because it pushes you to the top of their replies.

(01:59:12):
And I was like, well I'll fucking pay for this for a month
because I was bullying Elon too.
But then I canceled it, so I don't have a check anymore.
But yeah, yeah, yeah.
I say that, I said,
Ed's gonna vote for the bad orange man,
Lamal, bro,
he just regurgitates a bunch of words, he read from
the books, and then applies exactly zero critical thought,
and then somehow ends up at dinner with Jackson
Hinkle after they leave the polls.

(01:59:34):
And a friend of the show, Gabagul,
said he's going on a date with Jackson because
his Russian asset girlfriend decided to break up.
And that fact, that is talking about
Jackson Hinkle, his girlfriend
definitely, like a Russian asset,
like that's his handler,
they broke up. And so that was a funny
roast.
Roast.
But then, is this when I come in?

(01:59:56):
Oh, no, yeah, yeah.
Oh, yeah, no, then this guy said, haters gonna hate,
challenge Jim to a match, and let's see how he
fares. And so this is my official
off of Twitter, in real life.
I'm challenging Eddie,
see, like, if we just wrestle, that's not fair,
because I don't wrestle. But I expect to lose to
Ed, and wrestling is very good at that. But I think that
if Ed and I had like a,
like if we did like a little mini Olympics,

(02:00:18):
or we did like three or five physical events,
I think that would work more accurately.
We would be able to compete. And I don't want
to beat Ed, I just want to compete with Ed.
I think, no, Creator Clash. Yeah, no, this
is officially me, if I'm big enough to be at Creator Clash,
whenever that is, I think I want to box
Eddie at Creator Clash. So I'm officially
challenging Eddie to Creator Clash.
Anyway. And the reason for that
too. And the reason for that is what I'm about

(02:00:40):
to show you. He's been
begging Hasan to get on stream,
and Nicole
says, absolutely not, we're starting to see
the real you now, no one wants us except Jackson
Hinkle. And then he says this.
He called me
a lib.
That's fucked up. That's
fucked up. And I'll zoom in on that so everyone can really read it.
That's funny. That's

(02:01:02):
crazy. I don't
know, I don't think she's a lib.
Also, he called me a lib because
I, literally my only
criticism was like,
dude, no, the association
with Jackson Hinkle, like I've been in this
circuit for too long now, like watching
these people online, watching the alt-right
online, how they operate, like how
these psyops work on Twitter,

(02:01:24):
I'm calling this shit out
as I see it. And if you're gonna act dumb
about it and pretend like, no, it's just
shut up, it's just this guy
that I met online. It's like, no,
you're a big boy, you know
how these things work, and
yeah, this is the only thing I said, this is why you
called me a lib. I wish I would have donated
to Malamba. I said, dude, I wish
we knew about you before the jubilee.

(02:01:46):
That's the thing about the jubilee video, I'm so
glad, I'm so glad that
it brought us to you. And I still want my money back
but this felt worth it. This is,
this was, yeah. Are there,
I don't think there will be, but
any questions?
I love that.
Everything I've done is homegrown. I didn't
start my Patreon until after
the jubilee video, cause so many people were

(02:02:08):
asking, how can we help, how can we
donate, because people,
if you're listening to this, this is the first
time I've said it audibly. Yeah, plug that Patreon.
Plug that Patreon,
yelpatron.com, slash
hey, underscore Malumbo, same
way as my username.
But yeah, no,
something that kind of happened.
I went to law school at LaLoya,

(02:02:30):
so out here in LA, LaLoya Law School.
But yeah,
no, after the jubilee video,
something I really only mentioned in the
comments, revealing yourself as
a comment has real implications.
So unfortunately, I am
unfortunately, but
turned into fortunately, your boy
lost his occupation.
What? So we're strictly

(02:02:52):
crazy, right?
But to
make the fortune to come up here,
the amount of support I have gotten has been
huge. I really appreciate the love, which is
why I created the Patreon, people were saying,
how can we donate to you?
What are your livestreams like?
So it's come to a point where I'm finally doing
something I've always wanted to do.
I didn't want to be a lawyer.

(02:03:14):
I worked in paid media.
I worked at, I can say that later on,
for streaming, I'm on TikTok.
I've been told to do Twitch,
but most of my audience is on TikTok.
So until TikTok gives me a streaming key,
we're going to see.
But yeah, so to your point,
to answer your point, don't feel bad about
not donating to me. It didn't exist.
I appreciate the love now. This

(02:03:36):
PowerPoint was very thorough.
My humble opinion
is that I feel like
white people, especially
white leftists, specifically white
leftists have to learn something that black
people, especially black leftists
have to learn a long time ago since
Kwame Ture.

(02:03:57):
Same skin
does not mean same kin.
If I had to say anything, I feel like
Jackson, like if I, whatever
was going on with Eddie or Jackson, or
Eddie's opinion about Jackson, I think maybe
he feels a little bit too, his
identity is a little bit too
closed in with this Jackson guy.
He feels some, he sees some

(02:04:19):
sort of similarities. And I just got to tell you
all black people have to learn this.
You judge people
or you gain allies
based off
based off mutual
goals. Sure,
I can ally with
another black person, for example,
and we are allied
within education, within

(02:04:41):
within social
like racism, all that shit. But
we don't agree with like
health care, for example.
I can focus on those goals, but I will
not fucking have their back when it comes to health
care. But when it comes to that worldwide
optics, I just
will do my best not to engage with them on points
that I don't agree with. When it comes to a point to do
with, I have to because

(02:05:03):
communism isn't a utopian ideology.
It's an ideology of solidarity.
Solidarity is not utopian. It is
compromised to the fullest degree.
We don't,
capitalists right now, we don't live in an age of
compromise. We live off
who has the bigger stick.
Like who has the bigger stick, they can
set the rules.
So like,

(02:05:25):
capitalists say this like, oh, human and he's naturally
greedy. I'm just like, no, the unfortunate
thing is that a lot of communists have to learn
something that they weren't taught through a capitalist
system, which is compromise.
Yeah.
I hope that answers my
opinion of what's going on with Eddie.
I think he, there's something
just, there's some people you don't compromise
with. Yeah, that's

(02:05:47):
my whole thing and I've been trying.
I just wanted to respond. I sent him a nice
DM and I donated to him. I think
I am owed the response
and that's selfish. And you know what? I want to say
something. I want to say something to Eddie.
Hey, Eddie, fuck, hey, Eddie,
fuck you. I'm not a lib. I'm not a fucking
lib, Eddie. A lib?
Fuck you.
Of all things.

(02:06:09):
I think that's probably a decent spot. I think that's a great ending.
That's a great ending.
Melumbo, thank you so much
for coming on. We are going to have you on
again. You're a friend of the pod now.
Friend of the show.
This was so great. Thank you so much.
And thank you everyone for listening.
We'll see you next time.
Oh wait, I had a lot of fun guys.
Thank you so much.

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