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December 21, 2023 • 120 mins

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Episode Summary:

In this episode, the hosts (Nicole, Dante, and Corey) introduce themselves and discuss how they met on TikTok. The conversation quickly delves into the topics of data privacy, manipulation, and the use of marketing as propaganda. They explore the concept of predictive algorithms and compare it to the TV show Westworld. From there, they discuss the influence of propaganda and the investigation into Rodger Cleye + Austin Russell. This episode also explores the exploitative content of Mr. Beast and the impact of effective altruism.

Some other topics include: the connection between philanthropy and propaganda, the importance of critical thinking, the background of Luminar Technologies and its founder Austin Russell, as well as the controversies surrounding LIDAR technology and its applications. The discussion also explores the connections between Rodger Cleye and Austin Russell's family tree and the Nazi concentration camp Adlerwerke.

Additionally, this episode touches on Peter Thiel's involvement in Palantir and his family's background in South Africa. The conversation highlights the potential implications of these connections and the role of defense contractors in the tech industry. The conversation then shifts to the role of technology companies like Palantir and Clearview AI in surveillance and data tracking. They explore the connections between these companies and influential figures in Silicon Valley. The discussion also delves into the influence of advertising and the manipulation of metrics. They then connect the dots between Peter Thiel, Forbes, and Mr. Beast.

The episode ends with a discussion on the concept of Fed Flags and the potential manipulation of influencers. They highlight the importance of dissenting voices and the need for investigative journalism.

Key Takeaways:

  • Data privacy is a growing concern, and individuals should be aware of how their data is being used and manipulated.
  • Marketing can be a form of propaganda, subtly influencing people's thoughts and actions.
  • Predictive algorithms have the ability to anticipate human behavior, raising questions about free will and control.
  • Propaganda can be subtle and influence people's beliefs and actions.
  • Investigative journalism is important in uncovering hidden connections and motives.
  • Critical thinking is crucial in evaluating the content and actions of influential figures.
  • Knowing and asserting one's rights is crucial, especially in situations involving authority figures.
  • Technology companies like Palantir and Clearview AI have significant power in surveillance and data tracking.
  • The influence of advertising and the manipulation of metrics can shape public opinion.
  • Connections between influential figures in Silicon Valley and controversial activities raise questions about their motivations.
  • The concept of Fed Flags highlights the potential manipulation of influencers and the importance of critical thinking.
  • Government agencies play a significant role in surveillance and intelligence gathering.
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Episode Transcript

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(00:00):
Hello, welcome to Hello Alphabet Agencies, a brand new educational comedy podcast hosted

(00:25):
by three of the hottest, coolest, most community-guideline people on TikTok.
This is satire.
This is all satire and comedy and jokes.
We care about holding powerful people accountable, empowering others with knowledge by making
important research and history accessible to all, and building community through the
chaos of our modern world.

(00:48):
Having fun while doing it.
Yeah, for sure.
Laughing through the pain.
So I guess let's all introduce ourselves.
I'm Nicole.
I'm cool and disabled on TikTok.
I'm going to call myself, I'm self-employed now.
I'm self-employed and I'm a yapper.

(01:10):
That's all I got right now, but I'm here with Dante.
I'm Dante.
I'm not a conspiracy theorist.
Let us clarify right off the bat, none of us are conspiracy theorists.
I think all those theories are dumb.
We are educational content creators and comedians sometimes.

(01:32):
Yeah, I have a TikTok account.
What's the handle?
Dante Weld69.
Otherwise known as, I think his name is LaCroixBoy.
And then we also have CatDad42069.
Yo, what up?
I'm CatDad or Cory.

(01:53):
I'm 35 and I live in Brooklyn and my TikTok handle is CatDad42069xxx.
And yeah, we get into some goofage there and some critiquing of the American establishment.
There is a list.
There is.
But yeah, that's about it.

(02:13):
We like to investigate some stuff.
Nicole is really good at research, so buckle the fucker in.
And oh yeah, we're all yappers.
How do we all meet?
On TikTok, I think CatDad, I just call Cory, I just call you CatDad.
It, it, it, it, it's so much easier.

(02:35):
Call me CatDad and Cory.
You want me to say, you want me to say your guys' names, right?
Nicole and Dante?
Whatever.
Yeah, whatever works.
I mean, I go by cool and disabled too.
Nicole, cool and disabled.
We won't give them enough to like fucking dox us and shit, you know, but.
You know, I mean, Darren Margolis, executive director of Beast Philanthropy is already

(02:58):
on my LinkedIn.
So they got my, they, they got a lot of my info already.
It's okay.
If they want to find us, they can find us.
We're not trying to hide anything here, but yeah, no, we all met on TikTok.
We have naturally gravitated towards each other in our little yap and echo chamber.

(03:18):
But we are all over the internet.
We have a website called hotgirlshavehobbies.com, kind of links to all of our other socials.
Cory, do you have any other social links outside of TikTok?
No, that's really the only one I abandoned.
A TikTok exclusive.
Basically.
Oh, I got a letter box.

(03:39):
I don't know my name.
Yeah.
We'll get it for episode two.
Well, yeah.
Well, I just saw like your guys' videos.
Maybe you were talking about Peter Teal or something and.
Yeah.
Peter, Peter Peel.
And I just went and looked through all of your guys' videos.

(04:02):
And then I was like, took a big boy swing and said, Hey, do you guys want to be friends?
Will you be friends with me?
And they said, yeah, actually.
So don't be scared to ask to be friends, guys.
Even when you're old, it's okay because you don't want to die alone.
You want to have friends, especially if they're into like, you know, things that you like,

(04:24):
like not conspiracies, but like the truth.
You know, that's what a conspiracy theorist would say.
But we're not conspiracy theorists.
We're not.
We're not.
Because we validate what we verify things.
Bro, listen to Nicole and look at her research.
Tell me she's wrong.

(04:44):
Big researcher, big researcher, big independent investigation, girly.
You know, we're just we're trying to expose the creeps and the powers that be.
Like Caleb Hammer.
Because they shouldn't be getting away with stuff under the radar, especially when they
got a lot of money and they're using that money for bad stuff.
We're not about that.
And Austin Russell.

(05:05):
Yeah.
And Mr. Beast.
Oh, we got a lot.
We got a lot of people.
Oh, I think we're because you don't want like, you know, they're deviously like manipulate
manipulating you and you just think it's like fun videos and stuff.
But you know, there's little things that they can add to all these videos and to get you

(05:25):
to think about, you know, like, like poverty, for instance, you know, they're like they
don't want you to think it's a big problem because Mr. Beast saved one thousand kids
or whatever.
And it's like, it's not enough and it's not the right answer.
And it's it's propaganda, essentially.
Yeah.
And people really like lynch at the word propaganda a lot and like think that it's so conspiracy

(05:51):
minded to think that like, oh, there's there's subliminal you saying there's subliminal messages
in things.
And it's like people will really take it to an extreme.
And it's like, no, no.
It's just like this is a well documented form of controlling a crowd of people or controlling
a mass of people when, you know, certain things are happening.

(06:13):
Like it's marketing is propaganda and people, I mean, they market the shit out of their
stances on things, I guess we'll say.
And it's not always in like expected ways.
It's not always through the expected channels.
Like they're kind of sneaky sometimes.
And you know, we're on all the time.

(06:36):
We're on alert.
It's like they, you know, they used to do stuff, you know, right on the nose and like
they just like would advertise and stuff.
But now it's like they know how to.
You always hear that story about Target where people like the target knew that a woman was
pregnant before she did.
You know, it's like they use this stuff to get inside of our heads and to control us

(07:01):
by either buying products or like, you know, picking one brand over another or whatever.
You know, it's like they're using it for mischievous, devious purposes.
And this is like the 200th year of them perfecting it to like a point where for the most part,
it seems invisible, you know?

(07:22):
And that's why so many people miss it.
Yeah.
And now we give them so many data points to go off of.
It's like I, as someone who used to work in digital marketing, like the amount of data,
I mean, there's a lot of different like legislation and conversation around privacy and, you know,

(07:43):
digital advertising and how that data is used.
But regardless, it's like it's a lot of data points that like they are able to, like you
said, it seems mystical, magical, but like they can, you know, pinpoint what you might
want.
Like what they're trying to do is anticipate like being in exactly the right place at the

(08:04):
right time for the right person is all like digital marketing is.
And they can do that so easily now with all of the signals that we give them through our,
you know, whatever interactions on different social sites, searches, all of our, you know,
internet history.
We give them all those data points and then people are doing really bad things with it

(08:27):
too that like flies under the radar because it's not overtly sinister, but it's long term
impacts are really like underestimated.
And I know I would argue that it is overtly sinister.
Like, you know, people do like so many people like think like, oh, I don't care.

(08:47):
No one knows my like search history or whatever, but no, it's like when they're using all of
this stuff from all of us at the same time, they're using it to like map certain things
and stuff and they're using it maliciously, you know, like they're getting into computer
science theory later.
Oh no.

(09:08):
It sounds like everything I went to school for.
Yeah.
Fuck.
I didn't want to do that.
No, they actually, I think I took a class in college on, it was like called machine
learning, which is just AI.
And they said, they, I say they, there were, there's like an algorithm or something.

(09:30):
I forget the details of it because it was so long ago, but like they discovered that
like grocery stores discovered that they should put, I think it was beer and cheese and diapers
next to each other because like when somebody is like a dad goes to the store to get diapers,
he also buys beer and cheese because he's not going out.
Like they like put those in like, you know, you don't even like the order that you would

(09:53):
go in the store.
They like trick you into buying stuff.
Yeah.
I mean, you don't, you have free will.
You don't want to be controlled.
You want, you don't want to be like, you know, they're like able to guess what you're going
to do before you do it.
That, that means you don't have free will, you know, that's crazy.
That's not something that anyone should approve of.

(10:15):
I don't think.
No.
And it's funny that you say that as like your point of view from when you were in school,
because I like my degree is in marketing.
So like I had a lot of classes where looking back now thinking about it, it's like, it's
so weird.
It really is just like deconstructing like the wants and needs of humans to exploit them

(10:38):
for financial gain then.
And it all feels so, yeah, it's so close.
It's like putting a band on your head essentially and being able to tell what every person's
going to do next, you know?
But, but then there's some wild cards, you know, they're the people that they all lock
up and did you guys watch Westworld?

(11:00):
No, but we should.
Yeah, you should though, because you would like it.
It's like all of it's this stuff, dude.
It's crazy.
And like the Westworld park, they are using it to map like the human brain and to use
it to like, you know, be able to get every inch or every dollar out of them, you know?

(11:23):
Well, and you know what's funny actually, you bringing that up.
That is something that we were talking about watching it because John H. Mayer, that former
Teal fellow, which I'm writing a piece still about the interviews that I had with him when
he was in jail and what he said about Peter Teal.
But he has said similar things about the show Westworld and how our reality is much more

(11:46):
similar to it than people realize.
He said that?
Yes.
And essentially, you know, I'm paraphrasing, but he's, you know, warning of how there are
so many similar things already happening.
And you know, caveat here, it's like, I don't know John H. Mayer personally entirely.

(12:07):
I've talked to him in person.
I cannot confirm or deny any, like, you know, everything he's saying.
But this is just, you know, something that he, I think he's tweeted it.
He's also like, he said it to me where it's just, we really are, I mean, even just by,
like you said, what we can observe ourselves.
We are so much closer to that in our reality and day to day life than people realize.

(12:30):
For real.
John H. Mayer has said some other crazy shit though.
Yeah, he has.
So I want to say that we can't take it into consideration when he says Westworld is happening.
Some of the craziest shit I've ever heard in my life we're finding out is real.
Like, you know?
I mean, I'll listen to anyone.
There's all this new stuff coming out about P. Diddy and stuff, you know?

(12:52):
And there's like a videotape of a dude calling all this stuff like 10 years ago.
And like, you know, maybe we should start listening to these people.
Like, he's close to all the people we're talking about, P. and R. Peel.
And what could possibly come of it besides bad things to him for saying it?

(13:15):
But like, man, maybe we need to listen to them.
You are being under arrest.
That's what I hope for, Peter.
Should we go forward?
I think that's a good segue there.
Is that what you mean?
Oh, oh no.
You can say whatever you want.
You go crazy.
No, he was saying from, I think we should introduce, I think that was the first time

(13:43):
I really used a sound effect.
Alexa, let's introduce some of our glorious sound clips that we have.
We won't go through every single one, but we got to introduce some of the lore that
we have going on because it is, it's deep.
There's a lot, there's a lot of people, a lot of amazing clips that we've gotten from

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our time on the internet.
One of them.
Now you're being under arrest.
This is, that is-
To clarify that-
Yeah, what happened here?
What was that?
Now you're being under arrest.
Yeah, Dante, do you want to explain that one?
He's saying, I believe now you are being under arrest and that is officer, was it Martinez?
I believe so.
Officer Martinez at the El Paso border patrol checkpoint in the United States.

(14:33):
We did not go into Mexico and combat.
We were just in the US.
We'll tell the whole story one day on this.
Yeah, the summary of that is we were arrested at the checkpoint for no reason.
And this was me recording him.
That is officer Martinez arresting me.
So play it one more time.
Now you're being under arrest.
One more.
Now you're being under arrest.
There we go.

(14:53):
Now you're being under arrest.
Thank you, officer Martinez.
The video is incredible.
They never charged us with anything.
Yeah, watch the video.
They're yapping to a bunch of federales.
It's awesome.
Yeah, feds.
Lowest paid feds.
Yeah.
Let's see what other ones we got.

(15:13):
They're kind of...
Shane.
That's just a classic.
We all know that one.
Singing is not a crime.
Oh, singing is not a crime.
Well, let's do this one.
Give them a couple Roger ones.
Yeah, we got to introduce the Roger lore.
Why won't it play?
What?
We had technical difficulties.
We were trying to get the soundboard to work.

(15:34):
I think we got it to kind of work.
It kind of works.
We're struggling.
It's probably the internet, but it's fine.
Woo!
Oh, there we go.
There's one.
We got a couple.
The show is what it is, okay?
Yeah, and we debated for a while if we were going to redo that first part or not, and
we decided not to redo it.
So authenticity.
And you want to know why we're raw?

(15:54):
You're big on raw.
You want to know why we aren't going to redo it?
Tell us.
We're not going to redo it because all we care about is being transparent to our viewers.
Farf lights.
Sorry, my MacBook was going to die, so I had to turn on the plug.
You get the Brett Farf lights.
We call these the Brett Farf lights.

(16:16):
We're at my parents' house, and he has a bunch of little football guys.
The Brett Farf is kind of the centerpiece here because, you know, big Wisconsinites.
So the Brett Farf lights had to go on.
Jesus, chair, dude.
I know, dude.
Your chair is so squeaky.
It just shouldn't squeak this much.
I'm not going to change my life for some stupid chair.

(16:37):
We love to enshrine people who do fraud.
Okay, so the soundboard.
This one's working.
This whole little chat, I've been clicking through the soundboard again, being like,
well, can we get any of them to work?
If not, I mean, we're going to have, we'll have soundboard extravaganza in the future.

(16:59):
We're going to eventually just get it on an actual physical soundboard so we don't have
to rely on the internet.
But here's one that we know works.
There is a list.
There is a list.
There is a list.
Oh, it's so good.
I wish this, I hope this one goes.
Oh, I don't know if it will.

(17:20):
It was your, it, do you want to just sing it for the people?
It's your song, Cory.
Oh, blue people aren't real.
Oh, vote blue people aren't real.
Hi, hello, the dairy.
Yo, vote blue people aren't real.
Sing that far and wide friends share it because it's true.
Do you want to explain that one a little bit?
I don't know.

(17:41):
I just have a little bit.
It's not like a fully fleshed out idea, but I think that most of the people who are saying,
no, guys, you got to vote for Joe Biden right now.
I'm pretty sure they're either very dumb and falling for the propaganda or most likely
bots and not human beings.
That's just a little theory I have.

(18:01):
It's not a conspiracy theory because so far most of them that I keep running into are
proving themselves to be correctly bots.
They never have actually, I do know one vote blue person in real life.
I know there's a couple.
I worked with one.
I worked with one.
Yeah, he was just a Redditor.
He had mostly good opinions on most things, but he was a Redditor and he was like, I'm

(18:26):
going to vote for him.
He's like, vote blue no matter who.
Shame.
Shame.
That one's working too.
We got that one working on the soundboard.
I wish we could get, I'm trying to get any of the Roger ones to work.
We're going to fill the people in on the Roger lore.
I mean, we'll definitely, we're going to go through a bit of the story of kind of how

(18:48):
we got here and how we got to some of the Mr. Beast drama we're in right now, but it
really all starts with Roger and that's, that's why I really, I really wish we could get the
soundboard.
Can I do an impression of Roger?
Go for it.
Singing is not a crime.
That is beautiful.
Spot on.

(19:08):
Nicole is correct.
That one's also on the soundboard.
We can't get it.
Here.
Well, you guys know Roger.
You've seen Roger on Tik Tok before.
He's a creepy old man who was playing guitar, trying to like get kids to come in there,
you know, and he was doing weird stuff with kids.
Did you know who Roger was before?
Well, no.
So I think that's, I think that's how I fell in love with you guys.

(19:32):
And we became besties is cause I, I first saw that dude and I felt I got the like heeby
jeebies from him, you know, and then I scrolled through and I think I saw one of your videos.
I think Dante's videos first and a deep dive on this.
Let's go.

(19:52):
And I watched every single one and I was like, this all perfectly ties in with all my other
theories about life.
But yeah, I continue.
I don't know.
I just, I, with the whole Roger thing, like I truly don't know how there was only like
that, like the video, the one video went super viral.
Olivia's got like 7 million views.

(20:14):
And that was the, like, that was like, you were 10% of the way done.
That was really just like the tipping point.
Cause I remember that day happened and we were like, oh my God, we did it.
It went viral.
We saved the city.
And it's like, it really was that next day I made a joke and I was like, what if we're
not even close to being done with Roger?
And we were not, we were nowhere close.
We had two months left.
Yeah.
Dude, the rabbit hole goes so deep for all of these guys.

(20:35):
It really does.
And it ended, it ended at Mr. Beast.
I mean, I don't think it ended.
It has, it has, um, currently resided in Beast town USA.
I'll say crazy.
No.
What happened recently was that, um, I noticed that Darren Margolis, the executive director
from Beast philanthropy lurked my LinkedIn profile.

(20:58):
And I know that because I bought LinkedIn premium so I could do some proper lurking
in research.
Okay.
And LinkedIn.
I know.
And it pains me every day to pay for these things, but I do it for the people.
I gotta be everywhere.
I gotta be everywhere lurking.
I gotta be seeing what everyone's saying everywhere.

(21:20):
And I gotta have my replies get to the top on Twitter.
If Elon's giving me a feature, you know what?
I hate Elon.
Like, yeah, with my chest.
But if I get my yaps pushed to the top of people's replies and now I have like, dude,
I have beef with John Coogan.
He blocked me on Twitter.
That's someone on our fed flags list.

(21:40):
Peterbot, Peterbot, Peterbot.
There's a couple people that I've just gotten under their skin on Twitter because I'm up
at the top of the replies now.
So I will say that it's been worth it.
Okay.
Best six dollars ever.
Best six dollars.
I think it's ethical.
Best six dollars to cool fans, promise.
Ethically, ethically used.
If you provide more than, if you provide $22 worth of damage to misinformation, that's

(22:05):
good.
Yeah, it's worth it.
Yeah.
And so actually I do think that's how Darren saw the article because at one point I replied
to or like quote retweeted a beast philanthropy tweet and essentially was like, yo, Darren's
shady.
I don't remember what I said, but I'd link the article and I'm pretty sure that's how

(22:27):
they actually ended up seeing it.
So that's what I'm saying.
Twitter, that blue check mark, powerful.
You can really get people to like look at your stuff.
It got Edward Liger to reply to me one time and then never again.
And then he called you a lib.
Oh, he's on our fed flags list too.
Yeah, we'll talk about him later.
Yeah.
He's a big, Eddie Liger, Midwestern wrestling ed.

(22:47):
Wait, no, don't get us too off track yet.
That's that's for later.
That's a big fed flag.
He's a big old flag.
Yeah, guys are overarching theory here is that like most people on the internet who
are yapping besides the three of us are feds and work at the back and everyone has to prove

(23:09):
that they are not a fed until we will believe it because so far I figured out that pretty
much every single person is a fed.
It's back when you think about it, I mean, it makes sense because there's a lot of incentive
as far as like we live in an attention economy.
So there's a lot of incentive in hopping on like hot topics of like things that are really

(23:34):
hitting the emotions of people.
And they know that they can, you know, use that to their own advantage.
And like, it's just I don't even know where we'll talk about Jackson later.
But yeah, there's a lot of fed flags around.
And we don't mean you're legitimately a fed.
We don't mean you're legitimately working with the feds, but you're given fed in at

(23:55):
least at the very least, you're helping them because you're spreading some dumb, you're
saying exactly what a fed would say.
So it's like a shorthand for anyone who's like working and pushing like what the State
Department would want them to push.
And you know, people could do it for money.
People could do it because they work for the State Department.

(24:17):
People could do it because, you know, they have ulterior motives.
Like it seems like there's like a lot of white supremacists and stuff who are hopping on
to the Palestinian cause because it gives them an excuse to be anti-Semitic, which is
really what they just want to be doing all day, you know?
But so yeah, it doesn't necessarily mean that they're like getting paid by the CIA or they

(24:40):
look like work specifically for the CIA, but they very well could.
That's why they're giving us fed flags because we don't know.
You know who gives me a fed flag?
Honestly, who?
Jim Beast, but I'm not going to say that on the Internet.
Well, I know I think on the Internet.
I've already said it on the Internet, but I was obviously joking when I said it.

(25:02):
I said it in that video essay I made about Jim Beast, James Jimmy Donaldson Beast.
But like we know that like all the people from South Africa, like that we think about
like Elon and Peter feel they're fed.
Peter is.
Yeah, yeah.
It's people like Elon Musk and like Peter Peel and stuff, you know, like these guys.

(25:26):
I mean, these guys like have direct ties and stuff with the CIA.
So they're like the legit ones that like work for the government.
But yeah, there's a lot of people that like spread their message like, you know, even
like all the little Elon burner boys like on Twitter, like even if they're real, who

(25:46):
are the centrist brothers?
What are they doing?
Like, you know, what are their names?
The Ed and Ed Cal.
They have really long last names.
They got banned from Twitter for promoting a scam and then they got back on Twitter when
Elon let the Nazis back on.
Oh, God.
They're probably like, you know, they're the most boring people.
They're so milquetoast.
They never take a stance, but they always end up there pushing you down.

(26:10):
They're like the beginning of a little pipeline.
Yeah, I'm going to say beginning of a little pipeline.
That's what it feels like.
It's like, yeah, at a minimum, you're there nudging them in that direction by, you know,
like spreading their messages or just like inadvertently sending them down a pipeline
that like starts in a seemingly not nefarious place.

(26:33):
But it's like, no, like when we talk about things like brainwashing to like we use that
term a lot when we're just joshing around when we're obviously joking.
But like that doesn't have to mean like holding a swirly circle in front of your face and
saying do this, you will do this.

(26:54):
Kill the president, you know.
Like, yeah, it's like, no, brainwashing happens in like truly such subliminal ways.
And like, there's been a lot I've seen cult talk pop a lot more again.
And I kind of anticipated that that was going to become like it's just with the cultural
waves.
It's like when people are feeling lost and like they need a group or a leader or someone

(27:16):
to like listen to or look to, everyone is susceptible to propaganda and like.
And like films and stuff.
Films like, you know, like there are always like war films and like it's so much military
stuff and like.
All the best movies are.
Yeah.
And if you think about it, it's because our country is constantly at war.

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Like we have to see this stuff all the time.
Otherwise we're going to start recognizing that it's weird, you know, like, like I just
want us to not be killing each other because it's very silly to me that you've got to go
like shoot someone because they're, you know, like you can't figure it out or whatever.
But you know, it's like they pump this.

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Everything's like Top Gun or the Marvel movies.
And you know, it's like a big superpower, a big superhero guy pounding to death, you
know, their enemies.
Yeah.
Like that stuff is used.
You know, it's a fun movie, but like when it's you're seeing that six times a year,

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like you're, you know, you're going to start not thinking that like buildings blowing up
is weird and like, you know, kind of see it.
You might end up seeing like buildings blowing up and like buildings falling down on kids
and you know, be like desensitized to it and do nothing.
You know, it just maybe.
For chance.

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Yeah.
No, it could be used.
Buildings blowing up in the military.
Where does Mr. Beast get all the tanks?
Because I think the answer is the U.S. Defense Department or whatever you would call it.
The military gets like the sign off on scripts because they let them use all their equipment

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and stuff.
Guys, I promise you we're not lunatics here.
We are not.
So that's a little spiel on propaganda.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Do you think?
Okay.
I have a question for both of you.
Yeah.
And answer it honestly.

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This isn't a fact.
This is your opinion.
Okay.
Do you think?
Would you actually would you classify Mr. Beast content as propaganda?
Yeah.
No.
And I.
Two sentence explanation why I need two sentences.
Okay.
I'll try to go two sentences.
I'm a yapper.

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I think from my perspective, at a bare minimum where it's like, no, these people could always
be doing much more nefarious things because we know that there's no limit to what they'll
do for money and power and influence.
But like at a bare minimum, his videos really like.
It's technically still one set.

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Work to.
How I.
I can't have sentence requirement.
You don't need a sentence requirement.
I was kidding.
Very much like I'm thinking of the one where he like glamorizes like minimum wage jobs.
And then when the squid game one and the ones that are really out of touch with like his

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philanthropic charity work that he acts like he's Jesus Christ himself.
And I think like the common theme is just like he kind of I've described it this way
before.
I'm not not a conspiracy theorist, but it's giving it's giving MK Ultra like it's giving

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like brainwashing the youth to think that like same energy that money won.
He emphasizes money a lot in his videos, even if it's not the primary focus, it's always
like this costs 10 K. This costs 100 K. And it's like lots of focuses on big amounts of
money and and like the video yesterday does a lot of like product placements, very intentional.

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And there's a lot of glamorizing like glamorizing very.
Like I said, the minimum wage job thing is one example, but I'm trying to just think
of like the overall essence.
It's really just convincing kids that like these things are OK and that like it won that

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it wouldn't be weird for like one lone savior like Mr. Beast to like save everyone.
Like it really like it warps their view of charity and philanthropy and what it actually
is. But then also like I think has convinced them that like.
That everything Mr. Beast is doing is like actually really great and OK and we need more

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of it, which is a huge problem in itself, I think, because it's like, no, a lot of people
have a lot of thoughts on what Beastie Boys doing like business wise content wise.
It's very exploitative is the moral of the story for me.
I'm sorry I asked you a question and then was going to interrupt you.
Yeah, you should really let women say don't don't ruffle the feather on your mic too much.

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Yeah, whoops, it feels good.
He's just like squeaking his chair, rubbing his mic.
No, I'm just giving you central.
It's total.
It's been totally fine.
Oh, period, right?
Period.
Yeah, is Mr. Beast content?
I just yeah, I think it's.
Yeah, well, I think it's.
Propaganda, right?

(32:47):
Yeah, I think so.
It like.
It it hyper overemphasizes money and and rich people saving the poor unfortunate souls.
And yeah, period, period.

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Yeah, I was just.
I think it kind of makes you think that like the problems are solved like Mr. Beast fixed
it.
Oh, Mr. Beast, fix that.
Like he cleaned that island.
It's fixed.
But Nicole found in her research and stuff that, you know, they left it.
It was a mess and some random guy fixed it.

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He is the one who ended up.
Trash that island.
You know, so like.
I have worked in the film industry and I think that people don't understand like how there's
like an on camera persona for most everyone.
And then there's an off camera persona.
And it was shocking to me to see just how different those could be, you know, like.

(33:55):
Yes.
No, he is a prime example of someone who like this.
I mean, the philanthropic persona is the reason why he even like got a platform.
Like people love to cite, you know, I don't.
They feel like bots to me because they all regurgitate the same responses.
The little beastie boys in my tick tock comments where it's like, no, dude, you don't get it.

(34:16):
He's been grinding forever.
And I'm like, dude, I saw what he did in the past.
And it's like the kind of videos I was making at that age to where it's like, no, he shouldn't
have popped off.
What he popped off for eventually was like giving the money away to a homeless person,
which he then used to propel like his entire career as this philanthropic character when

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the reality is much different.
Like that's the thing.
It's like he really has exploited this fake charitable character in order to just amass
wealth and influence.
And he can do he could say whatever he wants to this massive worldwide young audience.
And they eat it up.
Yeah, they'll go do something.

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They'll go buy something.
And that's scary.
Like considering he's connected to people like Peter Thiel and Elon Musk, where it's
like he could say anything to these people and they will do it.
And that's like that's a different problem to unravel for everyone individually on their
own, you know, not succumbing to cult mentality.

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But we're talking about primarily children with Mr. Beast.
And like those are the people we got to protect.
And like they can't critically think through these things yet.
Like it's got to be the adults in the room that are like, hey, this this guy's not good.
This guy is is exploiting my child, essentially, in my opinion, making Mr. Beast like this

(35:45):
super charitable guy that could eventually like be the president.
And people would people would forgive him for anything he's ever done because, oh, he
saved a thousand blind people, you know, but it's like
in Africa.
And I'm like, guys, you're you're also citing the things that are like key issues.

(36:06):
Exactly.
Like those are the key things that people have cited as like, no, that's like the very
distracting philanthropy that like doesn't doesn't address issues long term or the systemic
problems that led us here.
And it doesn't like it causes other rifts where I think like an inadvertent effect.

(36:30):
I think that's how I would say that of like his some of his philanthropy videos in Africa
is like this.
I saw a bunch of this sentiment after the well video was released where it makes everyone
like in it.
I saw some like people in I think he was in South Africa for that video or they just had

(36:53):
a lot of thoughts on their local the local government there.
I don't know.
Essentially being like, no, it really highlights like how bad our government is.
But it was like they were doing it, but then just missing the point a little bit where
it's like more people need to be like Mr. Beast and do and it's like, no, see, that's
the it's like that is what he's doing.

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Isn't the long term solution like why are there a thousand people who who can't see
even though there's this really simple procedure, you know, like, you know, like we should be
asking those questions and like they beat it out of us from the time that we're children.

(37:39):
And they they also put into think about how much Mr. Beast emphasizes money.
All he talks about is money, money, money, money, money, views, views, views.
Everything is is all metrics and, you know, schematics and whatever.
And it like it just prepares your little brain to like only think of those things as like

(38:01):
good qualities.
You know, it's like, oh, the only way that I could be a good person is if I'm rich, like,
no, that's not it.
You know, that no.
And that ties into the whole like we'll get way deeper into this at some point as a whole.
But like the effective altruism crowd and like how that like there are so many like

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things that haven't really been talked about because it has become so like commonplace
for billionaires to have these philanthropies and for that to be the thing that like we
just have thought we think of this as so normal now that it's like people really aren't
questioning the like it's almost like sometimes people know that the motives aren't pure,

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but they don't even care.
And it's like we should care.
We really care.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They're just using us as a piggy bank, man.
We're like we're like all these rich people's little piggy banks that they're just using
constantly.
Dante just pulled up a full screen picture of Mr. Beast all of a sudden.

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We just start on the story.
How did we find out about Roger?
Nicole, tell him.
Well, so yeah, let's back up a little bit.
So Mr. Beast was not the first that was not the first step in this in this whole I don't
know sequence of events.

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Mr. Beast is kind of like the last he's the last person we've stumbled into here.
It really all started with Roger Clay on TikTok.
And so who's Roger Clay?
Roger Clay, the now infamous TikTok live singing sensation.
He used to go live all the time and just grift for kids money by singing like Lana Del Rey

(39:56):
and like like close with like sad girl music and like very popular teenage girl music,
which in my opinion, I feel was very intentional.
And so that was what he he gained a massive following.
And it wasn't really though for like his live videos.
It was more because people like used his videos to make memes like green screen memes with

(40:20):
like because he's kind of singing bad.
And it's also like sad girl music.
So you could see how like people would think that's funny and like meme on him.
It would be like a lovable oaf like he was trying to be like the nice old guy kind of
character.
He's just singing for fun on TikTok and he's so happy to be here.
But what happens is because we live in an attention economy, that man got I think like

(40:44):
he ended up with like three million followers after that initial like meme fiasco.
And then he had his 10 minutes of fame and then he really like.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, we have theories.
Many fed flags.
There's so many fed flags in this story.
And so he like after that initial burst of quote fame on TikTok, he really just kept

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going live.
I said, I think he realized it was an easy way to grift for coins and roses and whatever
else.
And kids thought he was sweet and well intentioned and had you know, they had no idea who this
guy was or just the funny singing karaoke guy.
But what happened was I stumbled across a live that seemed a little weird to me.

(41:37):
I was like, I don't know, this guy is singing with a very young looking girl and he looks
quite old.
And like I had only seen him in the same light as most other people, like in passing in passing
on my for you page and on some memes sometimes.
Yeah.
And then I saw him and I was like, I recognize that guy from the memes and why is he being

(42:02):
creepy?
And I didn't really think too much of it, but I was like, that's kind of weird.
And then I saw our good friend of the show, baby corn dot JPEG dot J J P G on or not insert
TikTok.
She posted a video that ended up going viral.
That was that's what like inspired me to make a video commenting on it, too, because I was

(42:25):
like, yeah, OK, you know what?
I'm glad she's talking about it because someone needed to say something.
That was weird.
And now I feel a little bit more empowered to say something because before that I hadn't
really been yapping on TikTok.
Like we made what was she saying?
She she stitched one of the I think she I don't know if she stitched one of Roger.

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I know I stitched one of Roger's videos that he had posted with the girl.
Her name is Olivia because he had posted a bunch of clips from the live.
So I know I stitched one of those and she might have just like stitched and like did
some like pop ups of like his Instagram, too, because he had posted this weird picture of
like the initial rumor was that they were dating.

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And I think that's what her TikTok was about.
Actually was that because he posted a picture of them that were it looked really odd.
It gave really odd optics.
And then people realized that she had only graduated high school last year.
And you could see how like, like visibly younger.
Yeah, like the Internet sleuths kind of started spiraling from there.

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And it was it was hot on like drama talk, T-talk kind of vibe.
And so I started yapping about it.
And then it just started like, you know, getting traction with like five followers.
Yeah, I would cool and disabled that account.
I was posting like shit posting like Elon satire songs because I was like,

(43:50):
I don't even know. I just wanted to start over on a different TikTok account
where I was just like more free to just yap and be myself and like stop
filtering everything I was saying entirely, because I think we probably all can relate to that a bit.
Like it was kind of scary the first time, like really putting your like strong opinions on the Internet.

(44:11):
Like it feels scary for some reason.
But this like really opened the door then.
So I was like, no, I have thoughts on this and I'm not wrong.
Like, this is weird.
And it's important for people to speak up, normal people, not just all the weirdos all the time, you know.
And like from I could tell, too, from the beginning that if like someone didn't stick with it,

(44:32):
it was going to be something that blew up and died out and no one ever actually solved anything with it or like really like
got to the root of any issues.
It was just going to be like like a drama talk, T-talk.
And that was going to be it, which is like, you know, sometimes sometimes there's just tea.
And sometimes someone just does something kind of weird and funny.
And that's all there is to it. But this was not the case here.

(44:56):
We were talking about that a few weeks ago.
Like, I always assume that someone's working on like an important story that I heard about or something.
But, you know, investigative journalism has been completely killed by like the news industry, you know.
So that's not true.
There aren't people out there investigating these stories.

(45:16):
It's freaking Nicole.
Truly, you know, I thought someone else would.
It's like you know, it was crazy.
No, we got like one half-assed story at The Washington Post at the end about the Forbes,
about the big the big deal.
And we talked to an NBC reporter and gave her like a voicemail that was like we thought some we literally thought that somebody was like D.Y.I.N.G.

(45:40):
And yeah, like I was like, this feels weird.
Like, maybe you should say something about it.
I don't know, even if you don't know it's real post of the clip.
I don't know. People will hear it.
It's weird.
And yeah, no, nothing.
She talked to me for like a half hour and I'm like, all right, well, nothing came of it.
Yeah, because people are the best story, not the coolest, but the best story you'll ever going to you're ever going to write that that would have been the best story she'd ever write in our humble opinion.

(46:07):
No, but people are scared.
Yeah. And like, dude, and Peter Thiel, like he did some damage in the in the news industry.
Like, I think he is primarily a big reason why reporters and investigative journalists are a lot more hesitant to say anything.

(46:29):
Well, I'll go back in the rock.
He can't be involved, right?
That seems like a big there's no way he's involved in this timeline.
Right, guys? No, no.
But just a random tidbit about Peter Thiel is that he bankrupt Gawker with his lawsuit.
And so that started a wave of, I think, a big like overall general sentiment shift of like much more caution towards reporting things out of fear of being, quote,

(46:59):
wrong, even though like you very much have the right to report on this kind of like public information and these very shady business ties and and historic family ties that we'll get to that matter.
And like you're allowed to talk about things like that.

(47:20):
But I think people are very scared.
And the news organizations that they work for are very scared of getting sued.
And I don't know.
I'm a yapper.
It's all allegedly and in my opinion.
So if anyone has any issues with that, contact Hawkeye Girls Have Hobbies LLC.
All of our opinions are.

(47:41):
Or if you got tips.
Yeah, yeah, that too.
Media girls have hobbies.
Oh, yeah. Let's go back.
I tell that part. Well, yeah, we're almost there.
So Roger, like I said, he was he was acting out online.
He was doing creepy stuff.
And so we had started talking about it.
And we'll we'll get deeper.

(48:02):
I'm going to start. I'll get a little bit higher level here so we can get to all of our big hitters.
But, you know, there's a lot of intricacies of how Roger was handling his quote cancellation.
Like he kept going live and it was just like chaos.
We kept going in his lives and being like, do knock it off.
Like we had so many burners where I get off, get off the Internet.

(48:24):
What are you doing? Like, OK, so we got we got him off the Internet.
We got him off the Internet because we did not stop talking about it.
And that's kind of a whole story in itself.
But what I will say from there is it led us to Austin Russell.
Who's Austin Russell?
He is the CEO.
And he was at one point the youngest self-made billionaire.

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He's also Roger Clay's nephew.
Let me just repeat that.
Austin Russell is Roger Clay's nephew.
Roger Clay is Austin Russell's uncle.
And and they founded Luminar Technologies together, the company that Austin Russell is the CEO of.
And so then so we discovered that like, you know, halfway through the rod actively unfolding,

(49:14):
Roger is doing creepy stuff investigation.
We got to stop this guy. What's what's he doing?
Then we then we're like, OK, Austin Russell's involved somehow.
And we found that out, allegedly involved in what was going on with Roger.
We found that out.
And when you hear that there's two like random famous people that are all of a sudden related,

(49:37):
everyone should look into that relationship.
You should. Why not?
You know, just at least see what's going on, because sometimes
there's some weird stuff.
Yeah. And so we got a tip that, like I said, we'll get deeper into different aspects of the Roger saga
at some point. Got a tip that Austin Russell may allegedly have been moderating some of his lives

(49:59):
towards the end of his downfall.
And we believe that to be the case because we started going in and bringing up their family history
and Luminar Technologies.
And in our opinion, if that is true, we believe it was because he was getting a little scared
about the information we were talking about and how it would affect his business.
And because Roger still worked at Luminar Technologies at the time, we've gotten a tip that he has.

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He was moderating to block you guys.
Yeah. And like other people, too.
So it's like other people were saying things, but allegedly, so every time Austin case,
every time Roger says, moderator, can you block keyword 19 in the sound play earlier?

(50:48):
Think that could be Austin.
It could maybe, you know, there was at the very beginning, he still had some of his normal
moderators because we know that because I talked to them and one of them also shared screenshots of
Roger being creepy in her messages and telling her that he wanted to swim in her wits and like

(51:08):
he was going to during the middle of this whole thing, he was going to like fly and meet up with
that moderator. Yeah. It was like, I'm this might be crazy, but I'm off.
And I was like, dude, get it together.
She was probably 30 years younger. Yeah. Yeah. She was, you know, she was in her 20s.
It's super sweet. We love her. But yeah, she immediately she's texted me all the screenshots

(51:31):
and was like, you know, she had originally come forward anonymously and then felt comfortable
enough to just be like, you know what? Yeah, fuck it. We're sharing this because this dude is,
this is not the first time he's done this. Obviously he's, he's doing this weird stuff
in the middle of being canceled for this other weird stuff. And so yeah, it could be them too,

(51:53):
but also think it might be Austin Russell because he was allegedly maybe a moderator at one point.
We don't know. Just a rumor. So anyway, we found out, yeah, that they're related.
And then I started, you know, I went on a whole deep dive into their family tree.
Once again, we could do a whole fucking hour on that, but
in the way, so Luminor is a company that is like a defense contractor. What? No,

(52:18):
we don't know. No, no, we don't know. We don't, they don't, they don't advertise this.
Please. Yeah. Talk about, so Luminor is they, they sell LIDAR. They make LIDAR. They don't
sell LIDAR. They make LIDAR. So LIDAR, right. It's just stupid, stupid lasers. And I'll,

(52:39):
I'll take that back. LIDAR is not stupid. LIDAR is actually pretty cool, but Luminor has been lying
to everybody in my opinion over however long they've been around. So Luminor says that our
LIDAR sensors are going to lead to basically self-driving cars. And I have a hard time
believing that for lots of reasons, not going to say that right now, but big controversy is that

(53:04):
the border wall, right. The, the wall that orange man bad said that he was going to build
got built, but it wasn't like a real wall. It was a wall of LIDAR towers. So what border patrol can do.
There's some real wall, but the overall thing that they were really trying to build was the tech wall.
It's basically for the, the purposes of border patrol. It's like a super, um, not a camera

(53:31):
exactly, but it can pick out people from like very, very, very far away. So they can see where
people crossing. And it's almost like not like an infrared thing, thermal scope from call of duty
or whatever, but like it's that idea where it's like, Oh, this shit stands out. Like lasers and
stuff. Yeah. And they use AI to like dope. This is an illegal person, but so they can like 3d map.

(53:53):
Yeah. Everything basically. And they can like see through walls, right? Like that's what the book
says. They use this, they use this stuff in a different, this wasn't related to this, but, uh,
this is how they found like the, like lost cities in South America. That's cool. They're like flying
over the mountains. Yeah. That's a cool use. What else could you do with it? Dante? Oh yeah. You can

(54:20):
catch people crossing the border illegally. And you can also see into banks according to, yeah.
So there was a book, um, what was it called? It was 1517. Yeah. 1517. And so this guy is, his name
is Michael Gibson. He runs a fund called the 1517 project or fund, or I don't know the exact word,

(54:41):
but 1517 and 1517 stands for that. That's like the year supposedly that Martin Luther,
not Martin Luther King Jr. The Martin Luther, like the cat doesn't cat, Catholicism knows Luther.
I don't even know the religions, but Martin Luther was like a religious fundamentalist dude.
And he nailed some shit to a wall in 1517 the year. Yeah. And so that's what it's based on. So

(55:08):
these people, this guy's fucking insane. Not, I mean, Martin Luther. Yeah. But the, the Michael
Gibson guy who runs the 1517 fund, um, this guy like is like a religious fundamentalist who like
wants to abolish public school. So, um, that's, that's that fund. And he invested in Luminar and
like the, the LIDAR stuff that, uh, Austin Russell and company are making. Right. And so in that book,

(55:35):
um, they were trying, they were showing off, uh, some, like one of their LIDAR sensors for an
investor. And so he was like a foreign investor from out of town. So they were like, oh, we gotta
like impress this guy cause he's not going to be here again. And so they took them, uh, in like
the stealth mode van that Luminar loves to drive around in. It's like a Mercedes Sprinter and, um,

(55:56):
stealth mode. Yeah. And so they went outside the bank with one of their LIDAR things. And I'm
99% sure that in the book it was Jason Eichenholz. Like the, he was the co-founder and CTO with
Austin. And in my opinion, the actually smart one with photonics. Another opinion I have is
there's a rumor that he no longer works at Luminar anymore, but it's been kept under wraps because

(56:17):
their stocks already so bad. Rumor. Yeah. Maybe that would affect their stock price and stuff.
Yeah. Maybe it would make it go even lower than it already is. And they wouldn't want to do that
right now. And you wouldn't be able to take more money out then, right? He already, he's already
pulled out a Luminar, but whatever. That's another story. And so they went outside of a bank and so
they were able to use the LIDAR and they could see into the bank, like into the bat, like they could

(56:42):
see, they could map the whole bank, including I'm not even sure it's a default. They could see into
the bank vault. They can map your house essentially, right? That's what I'm saying. So we in Austin,
where we hail from, we would sit on the patio at night and hang out. Cause it's, I don't know,
it's hanging out and the stupid cruise cars, the self-driving dumb self-driving cruise car Uber

(57:08):
wannabe. That are now no more. Now defunct. Yeah. They have pulled out and we would watch them and
they have big LIDAR sensors on the top of the car. I'm like, okay, we know that it's not Luminar.
We looked into that because that would have been funny, but they're just driving around,
like looking at their surroundings all day. And it's like, what do they do? Right? Like it's just weird.

(57:29):
So yeah, Luminar is technically not a defense contractor, but LIDAR has lots of applications
and they do own some sub companies. I think it's like black forest engineering, which is weird
because that's the name of like some forest in Germany. And I haven't been able to dive too far
into it, but that's a weird name of a company. We won't get too conspiratorial. Another one

(57:52):
that's called freedom photonics, which is another weird name for a company. And they, I believe that
those companies have, or do actively do business. We found some government contracts under those
subsidiaries or like some of their acquired companies. And so in our opinion, we believe
that that's really their main source of business. And they know that like this technology is not

(58:16):
going to be actually able to be used in cars anytime soon. Cause in my opinion, again,
I don't think they have the software ready. Like I don't think-
These cars aren't driving themselves.
No, this software is never going to be ready. It's impossible. And they are relying on the fact-
And they don't have a staff because-
The tech.
Like there's 10 people working on this, right? Like how many, how far has Tesla gone come in

(58:44):
the last 12 years? It's always been, oh, self-driving is ready next week, next week.
How many people crashing in the back of the semis and stuff have we had already?
A good rule of thumb for like tech earnings calls is if the, if what they say is the,
if it's software, if they're building software and it's going to be done this year,

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it's never going to be done. That's every job I've ever had.
Dude, all these things. Yeah.
Dude, all of these, I think they're all just fake. They all don't do anything.
No, it's true. All of these companies are valued on ambitions. And I'm like, okay,
fuck it. I'm worth 50 billion then. Cause I have these great ideas and it's going to change the

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world. Like so many of these companies really don't have anything to show for it besides maybe
one element of something that they claim is revolutionary. And it's like, we gotta
dude, Silicon Valley investors and like venture capital funds as a whole other
spiel I could get on. We'll do that another time, but yeah, no, let me bring it back to the timeline

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because that was good. That added a lot of color to, uh, Austin Russell and Luminar technologies,
the company he runs, but yeah, what did you say was like, uh, something about Germany? Yeah.
Something about, uh, Germany during world war two. Um, yeah, we looked into their family tree and
I did some heavy research here. We have a whole, uh, article on our website, hot girls have hobbies.com

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if you want to read it and click the links and stuff. Um, but we did find, oh yes, that's the
best sound bite. That's Roger saying Nicole is correct. Let's hear it one more time. One. All
right. We're going to be quiet now. Nicole is correct. That was fun fact. That was Roger on

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live. That's when I, um, uh, was in there with my, I was on my personal account. So it said my real
name and I, I think I just, I was like, um, I was messing with them a little bit. I think I said,
everyone look up Roger clay for all the newest updates on Roger clay. And he was like, yes,
Nicole is correct. I said, and then after that he said, uh, yes, like look, go to my website and go

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to my Instagram. I said, no, look it up on tick tock. Cause that's when we were like, we were
ranking on every search term for it. And I was like, no, look him up on tick tock guys. Cause
it was a bunch of young people in his life that had no idea what was going on. They turned on quick
and yeah, they, they, those are my, those are my homies. Now. So we don't need to be just a great

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example. So imagine no one said anything, you know, right. Can I, can I tell one quick story
about the, the, one of the lives that we went into? Yeah. I don't think you were there for that.
Right. Like when we were like, no, and we were like actively, that was before we had, okay, cool. So
you guys right at the end of the Roger saga, you added a couple of updates towards, you know,

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when I first met you guys. So like, I'm not going to tell the whole story about us going into lives,
but so what we did is he banned us obvious or he, he blocked us from his lives and stuff. Right. So
we had to like make burner accounts. And so we were doing that, but we'd make a burner. We'd go
in, we'd get blocked. Eventually Roger like blocked every, every word, every single, like you couldn't

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type any words that you could only do like smiley face emojis at one point. And then eventually took
all the emojis away. So the only thing you do is like share the live. That's the only thing that
would always pop up. He couldn't or donate him money, which we did donate him money a couple of
times, but only to prove that we would donate to him. And then he would block us. It was like five,
it's so funny. Anyway, so one time we didn't plan this. It was just me and you. And I think my sister

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and we, we had three accounts. We had FBI, we had border patrol and CIA was the other one. And so
we made fake accounts, like proposing as them. We went in there and we were like, we know what
you're doing. We know what you're doing. And then other people started joining in. And then it was
like, there was a gay or FBI and other, like the U S army and like national guard people started

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piling in. And then he ended the live. It was awesome. Oh, dude. Yeah. We really had to get
creative because he was so heavy on blocking anyone's blocking Roger negative. Yeah. He was
blocking Roger. He'd block anyone. He'd block any keyword. He would block anything just to keep

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everything looking sanitized and like nothing. Why would he be so determined to go live?
He's a, that's what we say. I think it's just cause he's a narcissist. I mean, yeah, I was going to
say, I have like, we can talk about this later, but I have a source that knows a lot. Easy way to
read 20 year olds. Yeah. Knows a lot about Roger and he basically got divorced and needs attention.

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Yeah. He's a sad divorced dad. Yep. And he has, but like he does have plastic surgery.
Just a real path. We know that for sure. But we do know for a fact that he does have some work done,
which is okay, Roger. I want you to know that. Maybe he wants to like live forever or something.
I don't know. So does Peter. I mean, I was going to say maybe they might be friends. How do we get to
so Roger and Austin and Peter Schmiel. So Austin Russell, the one that we mentioned,

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let's just repeat it again. Oh, Michael Gibson, 1517 Peter Teal. That's the connection. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. But then, yeah. So I mean, cause Peter Teal was in that same grouping of, yeah, when you
mentioned 1517, that venture capital fund, Peter Teal was also an initial investor in Luminar. And
that is because Austin Russell was a Teal fellow. So he was in the Teal fellowship,

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received a hundred K from Peter Teal to for gore, for gore, for go all morals and lose all integrity
and drop out of college and work on your company for Peter pursue a endless financial gain on
behalf of Peter Teal. And, um, and so, uh, anyway, yeah, maybe I don't know. Allegedly. Yeah. And so,

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uh, Oh, I didn't even get through the family tree. Oh yeah. We keep getting on tangents. Okay. So one
of the things we found, so, uh, Austin Russell and Roger Clay are both direct descendants of someone
named Heinrich Ludwig Kleier. I'll spoil it for you guys. They're Nazis. Yeah. We're not going to go
through. We're not going to go through all the research and how we got to each place, but at the

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end of the day, what it appears to be is that this company that, um, was owned by their, this would be
Roger's grandpa or great grandpa, grandpa. I don't know, whatever the family and the company,
you know, the company and the family was used as a, uh, concentration camp during world war II.

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And then it was subsequently destroyed, um, to try to destroy evidence. And so, um,
this was the deadliest concentration camp by like a percentage of fatality rate. Yeah. Yeah. It was
like a 99%. Yeah. And so, um, it was the Cotsbach sub camp. Um, I forget what it was a sub camp of,

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but I believe it's just kind of like, uh, I mean, I'm no history scholar, but from what we've,
it's more, um, it was like more of a forced labor camp where they, oh, yeah. It was just at the
factory. Yeah. Yeah. Cause the factory made, uh, what bikes and then cars and then, uh, like,

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and then they transitioned into, yeah. Like what appears to be more just like, uh,
defense equipment. Yeah. And so this company is called Adler work. Yeah. I don't even know if we
said it yet. Adler work is the name of the company. Um, it obviously doesn't exist anymore.
And what I found so interesting about this when I was looking into it was
not only the fact that it happened and how insane everything was that happened,

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but the fact that it was covered up for so long. So what I found in my research was that like
in, so this, this concentration camp was in Frankfurt, Germany. It, that's what was also
so weird about it. It was literally like in the city center because it was in this factory. And so
many people did not know about this until it was like the nineties when people started like,

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um, campaigning for like historic sites and like memorials. And I think like, um, like, uh, some
like, I don't know, just different forms of recognition of what had happened because
different researchers and scholars had started uncovering things that were like, Hey,
guys, I think there was a concentration camp in the city center here in Frankfurt. And so

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now it actually like just opened in like, I want to say 21 or 22, it's, um, there's now a museum
and Memorial open at the, uh, the historic site of where Adler work was. Um, and so I really hope
I can get to that one day because I'm so after having done so much research and do it like,

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yeah, we are going, but, um, but yeah, no, that, um, that it's not even on Wikipedia. You know,
like it's, it's, I was going to say exactly in the Western world, I guess, if you want to call it
that honestly, anywhere besides Germany, it appears. Cause most of the web pages are in German too,

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that are like, um, the book that early was like a research report slash book that was like a
report slash book that was written that, um, we translated a bunch of it and like contacted the
people. Um, but they're all, everyone's in Germany. It's really seems like it's only starting to
become common knowledge in Germany, which means like no one else even knows about this at all.

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And it is so crazy that it is directly tied to Austin Russell and Roger clay. Like they are
direct monetary beneficiaries of that family. Like Roger clay's dad is the grandson of the founder
of the company. And we know for a fact that there were like, that people were on the board of

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directors and like that people carried on this, like the company through the way how
world war two ended and all of the Nazis died. How could this be? Oh, right. No, no. Cause, uh,
that's where we learn about the glorious bastards. All the glorious bastards took care of them.
Oh yeah. Quentin Tarantino did it. Brad Pitt carved their

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Yeah. Um, no. Yeah. So then, yeah, one of the super interesting things that we found in their
family tree, uh, beyond the obvious concentration camp was the fact that it appeared that they,
I see something funny about Adler work real quick. I had a, sure, sure, sure, sure. Um, they, they,
Adler work. Fun fact. Uh, they made a vehicle that was called, if you, I posted it in chat,

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if you want to look at it, uh, but is the Adler, uh, Trump Jr. T R U M P F. And I, I don't know if
there's, it's just a funny, it's just a fun fact. It's a coincidence. It's, this is all satire
education. It's just how you spell Trump in German. I don't like that. I don't, we have,

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we want to say we haven't found anything like that points it to Donald Trump's family, but
it's just a weird, if you're German and you're watching this and you want to tell me why it's
called that, I'd love to know. Yeah. There's a lot, there's a lot of things that are close and I won't
doubt until, you know, I have proof otherwise. Yeah. I won't say it's fact, but I'll point it out.
I'll say it's pretty weird. It's just like a coincidence. Yeah. I point out weird things all the time.

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It's interesting. Yes. It is an interesting thing that we want to point out. Sorry. You were going
to make a point and I had to tell about the Trump. I can't even remember. What was I saying? Oh,
oh, yeah. The, the rat lines we were getting into, we found some immigration documents that

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seem to imply that members of this family got out of skibbidy daddled skibbidy skibbidy
toileted their way to, um, yeah, it, from everything we've seen, it does appear that they took a well

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documented, uh, rat line through South America and it, um, it's very concerning when you, uh,
when you really put all the pieces together. And like I said, we don't have to go through all the
details right now. Cause oh my gosh, we have been yapping. But anyway, more all the stories that
we've got here that they, yeah, they, they traveled a rat line and, uh, Peter Thiel might be involved

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because there was an alias that could, or may or may not be his father, uh, before he popped up in
the U S that was traveling with members of the Clier family at a very minimum might be related,
might just be business buds. I don't know. One thing, wait, you do know something about his dad
though, for real though, right? Yeah, yeah. There is some documented stuff about Klaus Thiels that

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his, that was his name, right? Klaus. Yeah. No, Peter's daddy ran a, a mineral mine in South
Africa during apartheid and they fled. Oh, they did leave Germany. I don't know if you said this,
but they left Germany when Peter was one year old in 19, I think 44 or 45, which was if you didn't
know, that's when all the Nazis died at the end of world war II. So they, uh, they died and went to

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America, I guess. So then they came to the U S right. They went to Cleveland, Ohio, a dead
series into Cleveland for some stupid reason. One of the words, just kidding. Cleveland's kind of
cool. It's like Detroit, but, um, yeah, they went to Cleveland and then his dad's a big hotshot,
uh, German engineer who went and ran, I believe was this one, the uranium? Yeah. It was a uranium

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mine, uh, which I believe, uh, eventually led to, I don't remember which other countries, but it
was the uranium that was used to give South Africa nukes. So. And Israel, it was Israel and
no, it wasn't. I don't know. No, I, it's real. Your uranium. This is satire. No, it, yeah,

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you're totally right. You're probably right. Never. No, they would. Yeah. So that's Klaus.
And, um, also there's, this is on her. His nickname was the Gestapo. Yeah. And we had
yeah. And we didn't give him that nickname. That was what his, his coworkers would call them at

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the diamond mine or the emerald or the uranium mine. No, Elon was the emerald mine. Elon was an
emerald. Yeah. And why was that? Why did they, cause he walked around like, cause he was just
gave that vibe. No, it was like a quote from, uh, I think it was someone who worked with him. I

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can't remember the exact quote. And it was like, it was like one of his, like not buddies, but like
one of his equals, right? Like, and I hate like another white guy from South Africa who worked in
the mine and was like, he walked around like the Gestapo. So it was like funny to them, but he,
chummy. But yeah, yeah. And I don't think that other guys are Nazi. I'm pretty sure, but he,

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you know, he's, he was like, yep, that's the Gestapo, Peter Teals, dad. Yeah. And speaking
of Teals, the last thing I'm going to say is this is unrelated, obviously, but there is, uh, there's
some other, there's another Teal and, uh, there's another, the FBI in during world war two arrested
and eventually executed. I think it was like seven of them. Yeah. They say, uh, seven Nazi

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saboteurs. And this, this is like, this is just like, this was in time magazine, whatever life
magazine or whatever. I don't know. And, uh, don't even say they didn't. These Nazis showed up in a
submarine with bombs. They were gonna like destroy American infrastructure. And one of them was last
name Teal. And in my opinion, he looks like him. Yeah. And his brother, right? There was this Teal

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and then there was another Teal. Herbert Teal was a chemist. I think he was a Nazi chemist, just
chemical engineer. He was a member. He was, I don't know if they're related to Peter, but it's
weird. It's weird. Now I know that Austin isn't a defense contractor, right? But Peter Teal is Peter
Peel. Peter Peel. Tell me this is Peter Peel, a defense contractor. Um, you know, not, not

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technically, he technically isn't, but is he the beneficiary of a ton of defense contractors and
is he the beneficiary of when there is any sort of chaos anywhere? Yes. Tell us Don day. Yeah.
Peter, Peter peel. Um, so my, my background, should I not be saying this stuff? Saying what?

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No, no, let's say it all. We can,
well, this is, if you're like nudging me, not to say that. No, no, no, you're good.
No, you're fine. Okay. My thing is like, this goes on guys, guys, let me just level set again.
We can say anything because this is educational comedy and most of it satire. Honestly, we're
just kind of goofing around. Cause like, what is the CIA going to do? Knock our door down? Come on.

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And shoot myself in the head.
I mean, everyone here knows that none of us would ever find ourselves in a situation like that.
Right. I'm in a great mental head space. No, I'm just saying like we can edit this part out.
Like we can edit anything out. So like if it's going to go on, yeah. So whatever.

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Wait, let me just, let me know if I, if I do something like that though, I'm just making sure
I don't even know what you're talking about. Well, yeah, but it's comedy anyway. So it's fine.
So what was I talking about? Who was I talking about? Peter Teal. Oh yeah. My background with
ishmeepersmeal is, um, so I've worked in tech for a while, right? You know, that's,

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that's what I'm classically trained in classically trained in working fake jobs in the office and
getting free lunch. Right. Like it's, it, it's great until you know what's going on, you know?
And then once you, I think once you figure out why, why I'm able, like once I figured out why I was
able to just study for interviews, right? So I studied really hard for interviews, did well in

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the interviews. And then I got jobs and none of the jobs I ever had ever required you to do anything.
Lots of people did a lot of stuff because they felt like they wanted to get promoted or whatever,
but you don't really have to do that. That's just like, that's an unethical life hack
depending on who you ask. And yeah. So Peter Teal, I have actually interviewed at, I interviewed at

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Palantir one time and is, oh fuck, you guys are CIA. No. And so of all the other interviews,
I had lots of good interviews when I, I interviewed with like 25 places. Like I really,
I interviewed a lot of places. It was just, I looked up the inside joke guys. We have an inside

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joke that we each are CIA agents and that we're going to like, all this stuff is going to be on
like the court transcripts in the future. You know, our group message is going to go crazy on
a court projector. They're going to, people are going to eat it up for days.
Hell yeah. All right. Sorry. Yeah, go ahead. A few years ago. And so I interviewed Palantir.

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And the reason I did that is because I was interviewing with another tech company, right?
And I heard that Palantir had a really similar interview to what the other company had. So I
wanted to like do a practice run. But I like from the time that I applied, I'm serious from the time
that I applied, I've always known that Peter Thiel is like a demon. I just didn't quite know why.

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I just knew that this guy was like kind of bad news, right? Same thing with, like I have a friend
who's in tech as well. And he, he in college got like, he went through the final round of the
Palantir interview and they like wined and dined him, like took him to like, it was like a five, six hundred dollar meal per person.
There were 20 people there. And these, these weren't even for people who like got offers. These were

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people who were on the final round and he'd never ended up getting an offer. But like they really try
to sell you and like get you to drink the Kool-Aid even more so I think than like the Googles and
Amazons and Facebook and stuff. And they pay really well. And the reason that they can do that, and so
Palantir is this company that Peter Thiel, Peter Thiel started this company after he made a metric

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fuckton of money selling PayPal with Elon Musk. So like they're buddies from South Africa, right? And
so Peter runs this company, Palantir started this company. They both like diversity and like, yeah,
love it. And equal opportunity. Equal opportunity to have an island with no laws. Yep, that's what

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they want. And so Peter started this company Palantir and Palantir, it got its initial funding
from a three-letter agency. Hello, how you doing? And that's, so that's the initial funding. And
Peter has lots of his like family ties, right? They go back to like, which it was one of the
defense contractors was like Northrop Grumman or one of those huge defense contractors that like

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makes planes and missiles, right? Like, Peter's like got, he's super deeply connected into all
of that. That's like where a lot of his family money is and you know, it all kind of tracks, right?
And what was the point I was going to make? Peter is bad.
Well, just like, you know what I'm saying?

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No, I think that kind of, I mean, that is great.
Oh, Palantir, the last thing, sorry, I got on a tangent because I had to clarify so many things.
Yeah. So Palantir is, they were given money by the CIA's like venture capital firm, which
it's funny that I just, it's funny that the CIA have a venture capital firm.
It's literally intertwined. Why did they sell crack in the fucking 80s and 90s?

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Yeah. So we have a lot of questions for them. Allegedly.
They got to fund their clandestine like weird ops that they're doing where they're like controlling
our entire media and, or just like doing war wherever they please because no, who's going to
tell them no, you know? It's like- They haven't been stopped yet so they could just keep on doing stuff.
You just keep finding out. It's like, oh yeah, 15 years ago we did do that crazy thing. Like,

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oh, we did do that. We did do that. And you know, it's like everyone needs to start thinking,
what are they doing now? Like, this is why this kind of stuff is important guys.
You are going to be so pissed when you find out what Palantir does.
So do not tell me, don't tell me that something with various.
So yeah, so Peter's a fucking dork. And I mean that, and I can mean I'm a dork, Nicole's a dork.

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But I mean, Peter's a dork in the most nefarious way. Like I am, I'm being, I'm slant, not slant.
I'm calling Peter a dork and I'm not being nice. We would never, we would never slather.
No, I say things that I, that they're right, you know? And Peter is a dork and he loves the
Lord of the Rings, like every single alleged Nazi of all time. And so Palantir from the Lord of the

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Rings is, correct me if I'm wrong, I've never seen those movies because I think they're kind of stupid,
but the Palantir is like the crystal ball. You can see anything with the Palantir.
Yeah, I mistakenly thought it was the eye thing, but it's not that. It is like the thing that allows you to see.
Yeah, it's the seeing eye.
So Palantir is just private surveillance software and they, they, so think, think about this right

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here, right? Who buys Palantir? We know, we know there's a big story in like 2018. It's a fact.
They're used by ICE, the one that we're putting in cages.
Wait, the people who have like unfettered access to everyone's home within 100 miles of the every
border and of America. So that's the ones that we are probably in Palantir.

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We probably are in Palantir.
You are being under arrest.
With the false, with the false, they reported false shit and they put it in there. I'm not going to say
what they said they put in there, but it was not true. It was, it was a fucking lie.
You gotta tell me off camera.
I'll tell you off camera. They literally, like I asked, what'd you put in the system? Because
they took two of us and fingerprinted us and they were a little too, they took my picture and they,

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I asked, what'd you say, what'd you put in? And they, they told me what they entered into the
system for why they arrested us. And it was, I will say, it was such a blatant lie.
And also we did not find it.
It doesn't matter if they wanted to do that. It wouldn't matter. They really could have just been
like, we could have never been arrested.
We could have never been seen and nobody would have had a reason.

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We did not find this out until way later. Like we did not know what was happening at the time or
when we left. We had to call and like demand to speak to someone at 4 a.m. because we're still
driving home. Cause we were both like terrified being like, like what did they arrested us?
What does it mean? Like what is in their system? What, what they didn't even told us anything.

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Like they just said you're free to go.
And they never looked at Nicole's ID.
Well, they did after.
Like they all watched the video on this page because it's horrifying.
I can't even imagine Nicole, if you were there alone, but like Nicole was filming while they're
like frisking Dante. And literally if they just decided right then that it was over and they

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would like wanted to put them away forever, they would have done nothing.
So here's why.
The one thing that saved me was the fact that I had a lawyer at the time. I still have a lawyer.
I'm always claiming my legal team. They're always behind me and no one should ever mess with me and

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my legal team. But anyway, I, I, yeah, I was like, I want immediately. I was just like snap it into
like, and I'm not going to immediately disrespect people in quote positions of authority.
No, I think that checkpoint is bullshit, but I'm not going to be a dickhead to the border

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patrol agent just because he's a border patrol agent when I'm just trying to get through the
checkpoint. But it was like, they genuinely fucking started it. So I want to say one more
thing about the stupid arrest. Yeah. Yeah. We got to move on. We do got to move on.
This is a fucking two hour episode. I don't care. And so it's the first, there's no visuals.
We're just talking. If you watch this, you're gonna watch everything else. But what I'm going

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to say is that if you can't see my eyes, they are blue. If you can't see my hair, it's blonde.
Right. That's just a fact. And I want to say that when I, I at no point did I ever feel like I was
like in danger. And that's fucking crazy to say, like in hindsight, I realize it, but at the time,
I'm like, this is, this is fucking stupid. And the reason that I can say that is because my eyes are

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blue and my hair is fucking blonde. And I can, I can, I can laugh at the border patrol agent in his
face because of that. And she can film way longer than anybody else would enable the film. And I
know that like if literally anybody else, they would feel like not safe because the guy's got
a fucking gun on his hip and no one to check it. Yeah. And guys, I think that that, I think that's

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why they let you go is because you pushed back. They don't, you can tell that he, it like doesn't
happen that often. And he wasn't, I don't think he was expecting you guys to. They were, they were
flub. Yeah. And like every, people need to know their rights and stuff. Like you don't need to
get frisked everywhere you go and stuff. Like you shouldn't have to give that bodily autonomy up

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and stuff. Like you should have rights because you know, this stuff is a slippery slope. Like,
you know, they literally could have just threw them in jail and there would have been no recourse,
nothing. No, they could have said whatever they wanted or that whatever reason they wanted that
like we were a danger and we would have had no control over the story. Cause if they threw us

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in jail, you have, you're suddenly powerless. And within a hundred miles of the border, you have,
you need to know you have fewer rights. Like you, you just, they can literally walk into your house.
They can search your car. They don't need a reason. They can just say a dog's dog. So now you're saying
that the ice, they get to have access to everyone's like, what is this Palantir doing? It's seeing

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stones. Yeah. Palantir knows all. It's computer software. They can just like, it's like a giant
searchable graph. And when I say graph, I mean like every, it's like connected people and connected
like entities, big database, basically. It's a big database that lets you track shit. Oh, people.
And they're what? Like all their search history and like their phone numbers and their address.

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I don't know. They use data to build, like they, they literally say, like, I think their whole thing
is like, we use data to show people stuff. Like that's like the vibe I get. And it's like, yeah,
I know that's awesome, but also like, are you helping companies or are you helping like federal
law enforcement and like local police stations and stuff? And I just, I don't know what data they use.

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And I don't think anybody, I think they have a right to know what data they're using. I think the
IDF uses Palantir in my opinion. I heard a big AI thing that, uh, the other day about the IDF that
they have, what is it called? It's called the gospel. And it's an AI that decides where to shoot
bombs at children. Yeah. And who, I mean, who would have like developed something like that?

(01:29:35):
Yeah. And you know, about it. Um, yeah. What I know about it right now off the top of my head to,
just to give a teaser is like, there's, there's also this company called Clearview AI. Um, and
they have, uh, I forget what the name of it is, but it's essentially like clear defense, like clear

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it, they, they specifically have a sect that's for defense and they advertise that they like are used
in Ukraine or something, or for something of the Ukraine, Russia war. And, um, I'll try not to get
off on too big of a tangent because that could derail me, uh, lots of thoughts on that one, but

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essentially Clearview AI, that is also something connected to Peter Thiel that I believe he was a
investor in something like that. Uh, but that is potentially part of what's being used as well.
I am not claiming anything, but I know that so much of this technology is also, uh, it's just all

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very connected to like Silicon Valley and all of those people, because a lot, it goes back to what
we've said, like even about Mr. Beast too, it's like, so many of these people are willing to sell
out in the most detrimental way possible, which is just like stopping caring about how any of this
affects anything on a larger scale or large or long-term, I should say in exchange for money and

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for their own, uh, notoriety and influence and wealth. Or their weird like twisted worldview.
Like I want to know that I, the guy who has seeing stones into everyone's technology and homes and
all this stuff. I want to know that he isn't related to a Nazi. Yeah.

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Exactly. Yeah. You gotta talk about it. That's exactly. Yeah. You gotta talk.
You can be related to a Nazi. I want to know that. That's not I need to know that.
No matter how, but you gotta, you gotta condemn sometimes people. Yeah. We gotta
when weird things popping up and stuff, it makes you think maybe he hasn't repented,

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you know, you hear weird, weird stuff all over. It's like all the blood boys and you're like,
giggle. That's the, I have very valid where he funds Gawker or the funds Hulk Hogan's lawsuit
against Gawker and removes one of the biggest like celebrity gossip sites that isn't like bought and
paid and run by a, you know, one of the giant media companies, you know? So it's a dissenting

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voice. So I'm sorry. I don't care what you think about Gawker. A, their articles were hot and B,
a world without them sucks, dude. And everyone, no matter what your opinions are, you should want a
world where Gawker can exist because when there's no more dissenting voices anymore,
it's like free for all. Yeah. Bad shit happens and everything that's not bad is boring.

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Cause it's all just planted and every, like, we'll go try to watch a movie.
You watch so many of the tea channels and stuff. So many of my girlies, my PR girlies,
my marketing girlies, they all understand everything. They understand when an article
is placed out, they go, Ooh, something's coming. You know, they can read it. We're all post

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advertising. We're all like post, uh, you know, falling for this propaganda and shit because we
were born in it, you know, like we can recognize it and we use receipts. We, you know, we need to
see our receipts and stuff to prove to each other and stuff in real life. So you're going to come
up to me with all these busted ass shit, you know, like, so we have a better sense of it and

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we're not falling for it anymore. And that's why I think that Gen Z and stuff are able to make, uh,
if you make, you know, if you make a nine 11 joke and it's funny enough,
there's a, there's a, no one's going to be mad about it. Cause
you know what I'm saying? There's the matrix is the autopilot pocket, funny matrix. We'll teach

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you about that later. Can I go back to the timeline? Cause otherwise, yeah, sorry, we're never
going to make it to mr. Beast. And I just know I was, I've been trying to get so far. We're so
far. We got through like Peter. Oh, we are so, we can finish this up quick. I can finish this one
up quick. So then, right. I just need to go to one real quick. Keep going. RIP piss. All right. So

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wait, he's going to bathroom. Yeah. Okay. So from Peter teal, how do we get to, how do we get to
mr. Beast? And this is going to be quick. So there was this Forbes deal. I'll call it the Forbes
deal. But what was going on is that Austin Russell, right? Our buddy from before Peter teal,
Austin Russell was trying to buy Forbes, uh, with the help of a bunch of shady money, including

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some like Russian oligarchs, Tony Robbins, who's a scam artist and just generally bad. And then
eventually, right. They said they were going to buy it. And the, the, the, the investors in the
board of directors were announced and who was on the board? Bunch of people. Uh, basically they
were just all Peter. I'm not going to go into who they were, but they were just all somehow

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connected to Peter teal via like a legitimate connection in business or something. Right? So
it was like venture capital stuff or like Peter invested in their company, oops, or whatever.
Right. And lo and behold, who's on the fucking board of directors of Forbes, mr. Beast, we had
been trying so hard to get this, like this met like this, Hey guys, this Forbes deal is bullshit and

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it shouldn't happen. We've been trying so hard to get people interested in that for so long, but we
just couldn't do it because Austin Russell is such a boring, insufferable human being. No one cares
about him. No one wants to listen to him, which might be by design, but what I'm saying is that
them giving us mr. Beast on the Forbes deal to be like, yo, you're going to make mr. Beast, the face

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of the Russian oligarch owned Forbes. I'm going to use that for clickbait and people are going to
watch our videos. And yeah, so that's how we got to mr. Beast. And that's how we started looking into
mr. Beast. He was on the Forbes board. There's a lot of shady stuff there that we'll talk about
eventually, but yeah, then we, then we got down a whole mr. Beast rabbit hole went in his family tree,

(01:36:22):
found out his, all of his business connections, bada bing, bada boom. The rest is mom was a prison
warden. We think, yeah, I think, no, she said that that is confirmed. She was a for-profit prison
warden. Yes. In Germany, that's worse than a cop. Yeah. Yeah. And like fun fact, remember all that
other stuff I said about Frankfurt. So this is once again, we don't know, this might just be a weird

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coincidence. I don't know, but mr. Beast's apparent father. So this would be Sue, his mother's first
husband. He was born in Frankfurt. According to the document I found their marriage document or
something on ancestry. I got it all cited in the article. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's just

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weird. It's weird that the same places keep popping up over and over again. And yeah, I don't, it's
just all, that's why we're talking about it. Cause I feel like the reason why it feels so murky and
confusing is because a lot of times there's, there's missing pieces and the missing pieces is,
is because someone's not saying something or some information is being hidden. And I feel like if,

(01:37:34):
I mean, what's happened so far that this is what happened with the Roger stuff. I mean, as we
started talking about it, we were able to get sources and get pieces of information that then
helped us connect some of these dots. And it's kind of just, I mean, that's how we then decided,
at least me start, you know, really pursuing like investigative journalism and like independent

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journalism, because we realized the power of a good yap and how we can keep, you know, piecing
these things together. If we all talk and aren't afraid to talk about certain people like Peter
Teal online and aren't afraid of the beastie boys coming after us because we're talking about their
Lord and savior. If we kind of stop caring about that and just yap, then maybe we can connect all

(01:38:22):
these dots and some of these people. Yeah. Yeah. Like, cause the people who are like fans of Mr.
Beast and stuff, if you are, man, you should be, you should want to know this because if there's
like an ulterior motive to showing you like, you know, putting a tank in a hole or whatever,

(01:38:43):
you know, if it, you should want to know that because it's not right to like control people.
Yeah. And you're smarter than that. You're not a dummy. You can't, they can't take your free will
from you, man. I wish the soundboard was working because I was just trying to click the, I just

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bought this train and put it in this bed over there. I really wanted to play it, but you guys got it.
Anyway, I just said, I just threw 10,000 children. I just went this train.
I just bought, okay, we're done. So, um, what was it? Oh, okay. So this is the last thing about Mr.

(01:39:24):
Beast. Yeah. Um, I got a tip, the tip, Tipperoni from, I'm not going to say anything about the tip,
but the part of the tip seems credible. It seems like a good tip. I'm not going to say this is a
fact, but what, one of the things that I got in the tip, there's a lot more, but one of the funny
things from the tip that I got is that apparently Mr. Beast and Elon Musk are on a texting basis in,

(01:39:48):
according to the tip. I'm not going to report that as fact, but the world is much smaller than
everyone thinks. Like it's, it's really like a thousand people at the top who are all, who are
who all either work for the CEO of some company or they're a CIA agent or it's not that many,
another politician. It's really like, not that many people. Then I'll go next segment, but it's

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really, it's really not that many people. Next segment. And so, um, we're not going to elaborate
at all. And so, um, this one just says Darren runs a cult allegedly, but that's a false alarm.
Yeah. Tell this story. This was a funny false tip that we got, but it was from someone well
intentioned that accidentally just messed up a little bit and we thought it was so funny.

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So there was, I got a DM, I told you this yesterday. So I got a DM from someone on TikTok
and they were helping with something. I don't want to give too much information,
but there was a family member having a problem, older family member having a problem. They were
helping out and what they found was there, it was, it was a guy named Darren, right? Um, running,

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basically it was like a Tony Robbins esque cult type thing, like an MLM, but like,
why did these same people keep popping up? And I'm telling you like this, this, this old person
who was having health problems, like serious health problems, like shouldn't even be on the,
like, I don't know, like it was just like someone that should not be taken advantage of. And like,

(01:41:25):
it was, it was really fucked up. And so maybe I'll look into this cult later, even though this is
not Darren Margolis, director of beast philanthropy, who looked at my girlfriend's LinkedIn profile
because she wrote an article about Jim Jam. And so the, the point here is that this, this, uh,
this person who messaged me was sending me documents. She emailed me some stuff from the,

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the cult run by Darren and it, to be fair, it, it's a guy who looks a little bit like Darren.
And so what she said, these are her words. She said, Oh my God, I was being racist. They look
the same. And this was really funny because it was an Asian woman. So she was saying that like all
white guys look the same. And I was like, no, it's all the same. They kind of, yeah, because what

(01:42:14):
happened is she was like going through some shit. This guy named Darren, who's like this crate,
she's just said psychopath eyes. Right. And so then it's, dude, watch it is the same.
Right. What if we accidentally, she's just using a different last name. And so we haven't, we haven't
said it was psychopath eyes. And then like that day, my Tik TOK showed up on her free you page
because she's like into true crime or whatever. And so, yeah, I think it's really funny that then

(01:42:39):
she clarified. She's like, no, no, no, I just, my bad dog. And, but I still am interested in that
call. Yeah. So we'll see. Yeah. So false flag. Darren isn't Darren. Darren Margolis isn't running.
He doesn't run a cult, but he does have a father who did real estate in South Africa in the 70s.
If you mentioned South Africa one more time, I'm going to flip my fucking shit.

(01:43:02):
I'm going to lose it. There's a lot of common connections. South Africa was like, and like Brazil
too, right? Yeah. In Brazil, South Africa, just like they really did the apartheid thing,
like really structured. Well, did you guys, after world war II or go ahead. No, it's just,
I'm going to forget. Did you guys see it was, it was recently in regards to what's happening

(01:43:27):
in Gaza right now. South Africa, I don't, I don't remember where I saw this. So, you know,
we'll fact check this, but it was essentially like people serving in the IDF or people with dual
citizenship in is real in South Africa that are serving there right now in what we think is a

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genocide in our opinion. Whoa, what light just went off? Like the, that's okay. That means wrap
it up, but essentially that they could face, I don't remember some sort of consequences. And
it really made an alarm bell go off though for me. Cause I was like, wait, yeah, why are there's,
there's a, there's a lot of, I mean, I know we have a trust me, this is a whole other thing.

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Like we've got a lot of Americans that are over there doing some shit too, but like a lot of
South Africans with dual citizenship that seemed to dip to Israel once their South African apartheid
fairy tale land was gone. And that's just my opinion. Oh boy. That was in the nineties,
right? Yeah. Yeah. When after, so guys get this, if anyone's watched any of my videos, Cat Dad's

(01:44:37):
videos, I talk about Alan Dulles a lot, right? Alan Dulles decided to, cause he worked at the
behest of capital and the banks. And he is one of the people who helped make the rat lines. And the
rat lines went through Brazil and saved a whole lot of Nazis and brought them to America in many

(01:44:59):
different ways. There was operation paperclip where they just legit brought them over and they said,
Hey, this is Bernhard von Braun. He is going to be the leader of NASA now for the next 20 years.
He's going to take us to the moon and we're going to worship him as a hero. And here's Klaus Thiel.
He's going to be on display at the NASA museum to this fucking day. Like, and yeah, and here's

(01:45:23):
Klaus Thiel and we're going to let Klaus Thiel's son, who has a lot of weird opinions about diversity
and women and stuff and blood boys and things like that. But you know, like the stuff is important.
Yeah. And I think that's why it's important that we, you know, we keep our, we keep our eyes peeled.

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And I think that leads us perfectly into what I'll, I'll call our closing segment today. Fed flags.
Yeah. Our light died. So that's our cue. I mean, we're, we're almost at two hours. We're yapping.
We can release it as like a two parter. Yeah. But yeah, fed flags. We're going to insert a intro song here.

(01:46:07):
Well, should we? Yeah.
Should we do like our overarching theory that we think that like everyone is a motherfucking?
Yeah. Yeah. So let's introduce, yeah, let's introduce the segment. So what was this?
Cat Dad, tell us, tell us how this idea was kind of birthed to Fed Flags.

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Well, just that the more and more that we research and figure stuff out, and I feel like this whole
Israel saga has proven a lot in that, that is that if you are on the side of Israel right now, you're
either eating the propaganda up or possibly you are doing it because you're part of like a program

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where you need to, you're helping to control the narrative on the media where you, you agree with
the president and stuff, and you have millions of followers and you like share, you know, you share
your opinion and you suggest that other people listen. And the media shows you that over and over
and over again, you know, that could have an effect on you. Yeah. And so that's, yeah, yeah, that's

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perfect. I mean, kind of what we said earlier in the episode, it's like, you know, we call people
feds a lot. Sometimes we're joking. Sometimes we're serious, but it really just means like
someone that is either, you know, they could be, they could be a CIA Psyop looking at you, Mr. Beast.
That's a joke, allegedly. But, you know, they could also just be perpetuating the narrative from

(01:47:39):
what we'll call the feds, the real feds. Yeah, they're saying what the feds want them to say.
Yeah. Or the DNC or the Democrat, you know, the Democrats and stuff, because in
that article this week on the, what is it, Intelligencer or whatever, the one about the
Biden campaigns being super like lackadaisical right now. Like they admit in this article that

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they are basically paying influencers to spread their word. And that's basically what they're
depending on to get their message out to everyone right now, because they're not scared at all about
what's going on. They said, Hey, we've got a billion dollars and we're going to put it all in
advertising. And by next November, you guys are going to be saying, let's go, Joe. I think it's

(01:48:26):
funny because advert, like literally, I think someone said it earlier, but like I've, I've
personally, and I know this is not true for everybody. I've never clicked through an ad
and bought something. And I think ads don't work. And I think that we made up a bunch of metrics to
act like they work way better than they do. And I think they do work for some, advertising is

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important, but digital ads are fucking stupid. No, I mean, that's a very valid point. Like
analytics on like even looking at just like socials, analytics were developed for advertisers. It was
to sell advertisers on ad, on advertising on their platform. Like maximum ads. Exactly. They want to
show these advertisers, look, no, you're getting some sort of return. We can prove that eyeballs

(01:49:10):
on this made this happen. Like, you know, like they, all those metrics are used to sell advertisers.
What do we keep finding out after like the first years, a couple of years of like the, you know,
the Facebook video push. Remember that when they were, they were handing out fat facts to influencers
and stuff, they were saying, Hey, come on our platform, get off YouTube, come over here and

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make us content. And they were paying fat for the ads. And then after like two years of that,
we come to find out that they're counting every single person who scrolls past a video,
no matter if they look at it or not, you know, so they're lying to juice their numbers.
They're just like the police, like juice in their stats, you know, because the more, the more numbers

(01:49:55):
they say, they, they can say that to the advertisers. Hey, Hey, check it out. I got a, a quintillion
people saw this and you're like, bro, there's not that many people, you know, but they can just lie.
Right. Yeah. And we figured that we found that out a couple of years afterwards. You know,
it's always, we find it out. We find it out 30 years after, Oh, the things you guys were saying

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was happening at the time. Oh, it definitely was happening. We did do that, you know? So,
so yeah, because of that, Oh yeah. Yeah. I was going to loop this back to fed flags. So when we
say a fed, we don't necessarily mean a fed. We mean that they're pushing talking points that the
feds would want them to say if they were a fed, they would be saying this stuff. Right. So,

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and we, the fed can be fed of any government. So it can be,
so tell us who our first fed is. And until they prove themselves otherwise.
And in my opinion, I think that the Midwestern marks, Eddie Liger, Ed, wrestling ed,
and he's soon approaching new nicknames, which we will get into later. He's a content creator

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who claims to be a Marxist. And I do believe that he has read Marxist theory, but I'm not
necessarily sold on the fact that he truly is a Marxist. He's taking weird sides with some
weird people like this guy named Jackson Henkel, who's a fucking dork, by the way, on Twitter.
And I'll talk about Jackson Henkel real quick. If you don't know who that is,

(01:51:22):
Jackson Henkel has been grifting for a long time. He was a, supposedly he used to be like a lefty
influencer grifter, but he realized there's no money in that obviously. And then he moved.
Because there is no money in it. Yeah. And then he became a Nazi.
You guys can trust us. We're not making any money. I haven't made a single point off of any content.

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Jackson Henkel is a Nazi. And now he's a, he's supposedly he's a mega communist,
which I'm not, no, we're not breaking that down.
We're just going to say that doesn't make sense.
He's a mega communist, Ed Liger, a wrestler, wrestling ed, who's wrestlers really good at
wrestling. And I wish ed all of the best of luck in the Olympics. And like I said on my TikTok

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that you get hungry eventually, you know, you get hungry. Sometimes being on the left doesn't pay.
Oh, I thought you meant wrestlers starving themselves, which is a no, no. Well,
that you kind of, I mean, I mean, like back to being on the left, like Eddie's midwex,
smart, West marks, isn't getting like fatty subscribers, you know, no one wants to hear

(01:52:25):
our bullshit. No, because he's just talking about Karl Marx. And honestly, Karl Marx is
fucking boring. And I don't think everybody needs to read theory. That's my, if you're going to,
if you want healthcare, you don't need to be a Marxist. That's, that's my take. And so,
yeah, the Midwestern Marx for some reason is like teaming up and trying to clout chase this
mega communist guy, which that's not real. And so we will, we will, we will, fed flag. And when I

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say fed, I don't think that Midwestern Marx is a asset of a U S government agency or anything. I
think that if he were, he is peddling, um, talking points that would satiate Vladimir Putin. Yes.
Yeah. And he could be associating with people who do, you know, like, yeah, at a minimum,
he's helping them spread their message and he's helping validate or validate. Yeah. Uh,

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certain people's messages. So one, my first fed flag on Eddie was a couple months ago and dude,
I've given him the benefit of the doubt so much. I really like him. I just watched his video.
You donated to him. Like, I really, really liked him. I really wanted him to be real. And it

(01:53:40):
asked Dante in the last couple of days, it's like been really hard for me to admit this, but like,
I think we're right. But, uh, my first fed flag with him was when that fucking Oliver Anthony video
came out, dude, that stupid, when you're five foot three and you're 300 pounds, that song.
You remember that? I don't think I know what you're talking about. Dude, it was on like H3 and

(01:54:06):
everything. It was the, he's like supposed to be like a bluegrass singer or whatever. And he's
doing like a folk song, but I read it. It was so astroturf from the start because everyone was
talking about it. It was supposed to, you know, they have a, I dunno, it seemed like it was kind
of a little bit racist. And so it was like, it felt like it was bait first off. And then also the

(01:54:31):
thing that really fucking got me was just because I work with video, I know like what, dude, on the
same day, like within like the same hour, all of these people release the same shit talking about
this Oliver Anthony, dude. I was like, it takes a day or two. Yeah, dude. And it, and like, literally

(01:54:52):
it was like scrolling through it all at once. I was like, and then Eddie, Eddie was, people were
like, yo, hey, Joe Rogan likes Oliver Anthony. You shouldn't like him. And Eddie was doing what he's
doing to you now, calling you a lib and shit. He called my girlfriend a fucking lib. And he won't
respond to me by the way. He called me a lib on Twitter. Because he's a pussy in my opinion.

(01:55:14):
But he was like pushing this Oliver Anthony so hard. He was ride or die for him. He's like, no,
we, we got it. We got to support Oliver Anthony. He's for the working class. And it just felt like
a fucking PR push. It felt like part of a program. Dude, you have to have heard this song. Oh, it's a
song. I'll listen to the song. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's a song. I see what you're saying.

(01:55:45):
Yeah. Yeah. I know. Yeah. You remember that, right? Yeah. Okay. That made it was like everyone was
talking about it for a minute, but it all popped up on the same day. And bro, it read so much like a
PR like Psy Up type thing. It's, it's what the, the celebrities do, you know, all my girlies who
listen to the tea and stuff, you know, that like, when they use certain magazines or whatever, like,

(01:56:08):
you know, they're, it's all for different purposes. Like they have this all down to a science. So when
they want to push someone big, they would push it out to all of the influencers. Like Joe Rogan
talked about this at the same time as Midwest remarks and fucking everyone, dude, I was like,
who the Ben Shapiro talked about it, bro. It was like, it's so obvious. No, at a minimum, he's,

(01:56:32):
I mean, if you give them every benefit of the doubt at a minimum, he's a helpful idiot then.
And it's like, but, and if you truly are though, you should be open to hearing like people who
support you or did support you being like, Hey dude, I'm kind of concerned. It seems like,
like they might be, we kind of were at first we were like, Oh, I think they're taking advantage

(01:56:56):
of him and trying to, that's what I thought. And then I was like, I sent him an earnest DM,
I still want that to be true. Yeah. No. So I like, no, he's never, he'll never respond to me again.
He will never say anything to me again. This is exactly what happened with Caleb hammer. We'll
talk about next time, but no, yeah. He he's a pooh. Cause they don't want to barter. Yeah. He

(01:57:20):
re spilt like he, he responded. I sent him an earnest DM telling him like why I followed him
initially and why like I have so far for the most part respected what he's done and said,
and never responded to the DM. And then he responded to one of my messages when I said,
I donated and said, thank you. And then just gas lit and deflect the whole time saying like,
why would, how can Jackson be grifting if he's, if he's saying he's a Marxist and I'm like, dude,

(01:57:45):
grifting doesn't mean you're making money only it's fucking attention economy. God damn it.
And then he was getting upset with you guys. Right. And this is the other fed flag that he gave me was
the, he calls it, he talks, talking about the left, like he isn't part of it. You know, he's like,
Oh, all you people on the left. It's like, bro, it's slipping.

(01:58:06):
The mask fell down, dude. Like, or maybe he's closer to this like mega communism, which I
feel like is more like white supremacist. What does he want? Like a Marxist ethno state?
It feels like a lot of racism a lot of times. That's just fascism. It's the same thing.
It's just instead of, I think it's all capitalist controlling the company. It's the government

(01:58:29):
controlling the company through a person who may as well be called a capitalist. I don't,
the more we're figuring out, man, is the more we're seeing that it's all like planned and people are
placed into positions and rather than like finding themselves there and stuff. We wouldn't release
this dude. Honestly, you're gonna shoot me. What's the CEO gonna do? No, but that's it. Yeah.

(01:58:55):
Dude, I would live stream it if I killed myself. I'm saying this right now. I would live stream
it so all of you could walk and so I could tell you all goodbye. I would never, I would never
jump off anything. None of us. I would never jump off any, any window or out of anything really high
wouldn't do it. I would never, never. I was gonna say, I think that's where we wrap it up. I think

(01:59:20):
it's that's it. Cause that's two hours. We did two. It'll get out of the down. Let's go. Yeah. And
also we could just release it as a two parter. It'll be fine. We could do like a quick disclaimer
at the front. Like guys, this is crazy, but the story is crazy and we're going to get nibbles of
just have fun. We're trying to give you the fun. If you thought it was weird in our minds, in our

(01:59:42):
brains were a little too ADHD for you. That's fine. There's a lot to talk about. A lot of
repetition. She's a lot of break it all down in other episodes. It'll start making more sense,
but if you've made it this far, thank you so much for joining us. First episode of hello.
I feel like we just caught our strides. Yeah. Right. No, we just started cooking two hours in,

(02:00:05):
but we will be back with a lot more thoughts, just thoughts and observations. Let us know your
fed flags. Yeah. Drop your fed flags in the comments below. No, it's great. All right. No,
let's do this. Sorry. Let's do it real quick without me fucking it all up if you want. Oh no,
I think it's perfect. Nope. We're not doing anything. It's all I'm sorry. I'm not a mansplainer.

(02:00:29):
I just, I think the delay, I'm just, everyone help these men. Won't stop talking over me on this
podcast. Help. Let women speak.
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