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June 12, 2023 56 mins

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This is an interview I gave to the While We're Still Here podcast.  This podcast talks about death and dying… while we still can. On this episode, the host, Kathy, gets me to talk about my two roles as a church pastor and as a police chaplain. We discuss death notifications, caring for traumatized first responders, preparations for death, and the people that help when we suffer a sudden, unexpected loss.


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