July 27, 2023 • 51 mins
This week, we're exploring the process of stepping back and allowing others to take the reins, and how this can lead to personal and business growth. We navigate through the significance of trusting people and delegating tasks, and the surprising benefits we experienced as a family when we shifted from organizers to participants.
Among the many thought-provoking discussions in this episode, we also delve into the realm of mentorship and leadership development. We pay homage to the influential Rick Isaacson and discuss his teachings that shaped our entrepreneurial journey. The challenge of managing resources, time, and people, and the rewarding outcomes form the crux of this conversation. Towards the end, we delve into the Apple and Disney phenomena and their impact on our lives and wrap up with an enlightening talk on the power of feedback and its potential for personal and business improvement. It's an episode packed with rich stories and profound lessons, so let's get started!
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Well, hey, hey, welcome into the higher up
podcast.
I'm Adam West, a video creator,and I'm joined by an
accomplished entrepreneur, benjiWilson.
Look, our mission is simple, isto empower you in every aspect
of your life, from business topersonal growth.
We're just here to inspire youto make a positive impact on the
world through sharing our ownlife experiences and having a
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chance to have conversationswith other successful
individuals.
But either way, together we'llexplore living a higher up life.
Let's jump into today's episode.
Well, benji, we're here.
I'm tired, I'm exhausted, butwe're filming and recording
episode nine.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
What are you tired from?
I mean, it's not been a longweek, oh my gosh man we had.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Yeah, it's been a long week.
Our church just finishedvacation Bible school, but I'm
excited it's the last year we'recalling it that.
As a branding person, you hearme talk about all the time.
I'm excited we are changing itto Summerama which is kind of a
cool name.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Everybody does vacation Bible school.
We just want to brand it alittle bit different.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Well, that's one of the things too.
I think that we'll have to, aswe do, some other episodes
branding.
Obviously, I want to get intothat one.
That may be a long one, becauseit's what I enjoy, but we may
do two on that Two on that one.
But branding is big and I thinkthat's something that we've
really tried to do the pastcouple of past year or two, not
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couple years past year or two.
Take a lot of our really bigevents and we want to give them
a name.
We don't want to just be trunkor treat or like Easter egg drop
or egg hunt, because we haveone for during the fall season,
we have one for Easter and thenVBS is our other big.
So those are our three reallybig events that we do for the
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community.
But it's cool, we want torebrand it and kind of give it a
name.
So we're going to call itSummerama.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
There's so many different things for us in our
community.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
But I'm excited because VBS reminds me of when
my dad led an old SouthernBaptist church back in the day.
Oh yeah, I'm kind of excited tomove away Brings back some good
memories.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
It brings back some memories, but to your point,
it's nothing wrong withrebranding it.
Give it a fresh facelift.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Yeah, it just gives it a fresh facelift.
I think when we hear the termVBS, I think that's kind of my
generation, your generation, butI think what our kids are in
they're like what?
Speaker 2 (02:31):
is that.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
So we're just trying to rebrand, but it's been a good
week.
We did four nights, which isgood, because we dropped from
five last year.
And the fourth night isactually not anything too overly
crazy.
It's a family night Hang out.
But man, I filmed all week andI'm tired, so it's so fun.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
I can't wait to see your recap video Sunday.
Hopefully it'll be good.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Shout out to Brooke.
Hopefully she listens to it.
She helped me all week.
Normally I handle the video andphotography, so I'm running
both.
Sometimes you miss moments, youcapture others because you're
switching back and forth.
So it was just really nice tokind of focus on one thing.
Yeah for sure, but yeah, we'llhave the recap video this
weekend.
By the time you all hear this,we'll have already shown it and
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it'll be on social media, so goon church, josephwestovercom,
and check it out.
Check it out Shameless plug, butyeah, so it was good with that.
Just a lot going on.
I know you guys got to serve.
It was nice we had so manypeople serving this time.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
I know we joked about it with you and Sarah that
y'all kind of got to take it.
You're normally running andgunning man.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
this is the first time Sarah and I were talking
about this.
This is the first VBS we'llcall it, as everyone knows, and
we've.
This church has been herealmost 11 years now.
Yeah just had our 10th yearcelebration.
Yeah, we're in 11s coming upvery, very soon.
It's gonna be big.
We got another big event coming, so stay tuned if you're local
local.
Birmingham area.
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But this is the first eventthat we have not actually done
the entire planning of the event.
It's kind of nice.
Our children's director did afantastic job.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Called me one time asking about a recap video and
I'm like yes, sir, that was it.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
It was kind of nice.
The media director he did agreat job, Nick.
The team did a great job toyour point.
So it was just kind of nice.
We were able to handleregistration, check in, get
people their shirts and all.
So it's kind of nice to sitback and relax and actually got
to participate a little bit withour daughter.
So it's kind of nice.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Yeah, I look forward to the day.
It's tough because I want to beable to do that too, you're
getting close, you're gettingclose, but that's the tough part
.
I gotta be better about puttingaside how much I enjoy filming.
I've made the jokes a couple oftimes.
I'm looking to make someupgrades this year.
So, of course, when our fallfestival rolls around, I'm
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hoping to have some nicerequipment.
I'm like I want to try it.
But, it's tough because I enjoyfilming and it's, but I need to
get to where I can have thatbalance and not film and just
trust everybody else.
That's the big thing that I'vebeen learning this year.
It was funny I just finished mybig quarter three or quarter
two, wrap up quarter three,playing in with your brother,
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and that was one of my goals forthe year or for this quarter
really is probably for the yearis I've got to learn to be
better about trusting people andcontrolling what I can control.
So that's right?
Speaker 2 (05:22):
No, it's true, because you never know,
shameless plug, the impact thatyou make on other people.
Yup, just telling you.
You just don't know, don't wantto cut this, this is as bad as
a dad joke.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
That's good.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
That's because our topic tonight is on impact folks
.
Your topic pictures are alwaysbad dad jokes.
If you go back and listen.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
listeners go back and listen just to the first 10
minutes of each episode.
Benji has probably straight updad jokes to introduce a topic
every single time, dad joke.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
It's all good, though , but I mean, listen to this
impact, and we're going to startwith this, but we're also going
to impact it.
What kind of impact do you wantto have?
What kind of legacy do you wantto leave behind in your higher
up life for other people?
And it took me today, when wewere kind of talking through the
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show notes.
It took me back to thedefinition of what impact is.
Now there's many different waysyou can look at this, but I
think the most common one is tohave a strong effect on someone
or something.
And I couldn't help but go backto my basketball days of
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probably one of the greatestsome would argue the best
basketball player of all timeMichael.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
I'm not laughing at all thinking about you playing
basketball.
No, I'm not, that's not what'sgoing through my head at all
right now.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Hey, I was just so you are aware, adam, I was a all
state forward in 1A Christianschool basketball, so it doesn't
mean anything.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
It's just throwing that out there.
Is that the equivalent of wasit five man ball?
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Isn't that what some school we played with three.
No, I'm just kidding we hadfive.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
We played three on three and one league and one
league.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
But now we had a.
There was a guy who played atanother Christian school up in
Birmingham and this was the teamto beat that.
They destroyed people.
I'll never forget I wasstanding at the just just south
of the free throw line,essentially and he comes up and
he jumped over, literally overme, slam the basketball in our
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own gym and he went on to playat the University of Alabama for
four years.
But he was, he was a solidplayer, but that was my.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
I mean I don't have any room to talk like at all.
I played for those of y'allthat don't know our listeners.
My dad was an Air Forcechaplain, so I spent my high
school days in Okinawa, japan,not even big enough to be on
mainland Japan.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Okinawa, Japan.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
And all we had two high schools.
Okay, I want, like we're goingto tell you back real quick.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Are these on base the base?
Speaker 1 (08:07):
on the base.
Well, we had ours on the AirForce base, and then we also had
the, the Marine installation.
Oh, okay, so we had us.
We had the gosh when I'm theKadena Panthers is what we were.
And then we had the Kuba SakiDragon.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Kuba.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Saki.
What was even funnier isbecause we didn't have a lot of
high schools to play.
We did have a couple ofJapanese schools.
We played legitimately, didplay a Japanese college.
Never in my life have I seenanything more entertaining than
as a 16, 17 year old kid, likestanding on the field getting
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ready to play a play and lookingover and seeing a bunch of
grown Japanese men sharingcigarettes and running in and
out of the game.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
I kid you not, I kid you not.
I'm surprised there's staminaheld up.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Dude Spoken cigarettes Good night One would
come off.
I kid you not One.
Would come off the field andhanded to his buddy and then he
run on the field to get a hitand like and I hope it was
cigarettes.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Oh, there was a cigarette.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
I thought I was saying.
I'm sitting here having thisconversation now and I'm like
maybe it wasn't a cigarette.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
I doubt that was a cigarette.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
They were smoking a sea urchin or something man, I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
So they?
They sounds like they had animpact on your life.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Oh they, I will tell you this I did, I didn't.
I mean I.
You know, I played D3 ball incollege and I've gotten hit
Football everyone, notbasketball Football football,
yeah, football, not basketballfootball.
I played at Huntington College,played as in.
I was the second string tied inand I was not meant to play
tight end because I lost toomuch weight.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
So oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
So learning to run route, that was fun, but
basically I lost my train ofthought because I just keep
thinking about them smoking onthe sideline but but yeah, so I
mean it was kind of I really didlose my thing in thought.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Been you were talking about.
You went to college to playball.
You played D3 football andplayed D3.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
So I wasn't anything like fantastic or anything but
you got to play college ball.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
That's fantastic.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
I did get to play college ball.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
I can't say that nobody's ever hit.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
That's where I was going.
I'm sorry, I completely lost mytrain of thought.
Nobody, even even playing D3.
There's some big boys in D3.
Oh yeah, absolutely.
I mean, everybody on that teamwas there.
They were their top dog attheir school, typically, you
know, and so I've never been hitas hard as I was by that
Japanese college.
I promise you, never in my lifehas anyone hit me that hard.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
So did you play in high school?
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Yeah, I mean I started, I started both.
We played Iron man ball.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
So I got defense and offense.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Now, what was fun is I got to play a dead line, but I
also played full back.
That's where I got this one Ilove for 10 play bucking ears
came from.
I was a Mike Oztop fan.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Nobody was better than the freight train man Do.
That guy could be barrelanybody.
They're bringing back thecreamsicle orange this way.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
I'm getting way off point, yeah.
So yeah, that's good big bigimpact it was.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
It was just nothing.
I've never experienced anythinglike that.
But where I was going is theysplit our.
They split us into two teams.
Every so our school.
I'd be sitting in class.
We had the then.
You're gonna laugh at me, butthis is where my love for my
team came from.
We had the Kadena Bucks or theBuccaneers right.
Islanders.
Okay, Kadena high school hadtwo football teams.
We practice on obsidens of theschool and we played against the
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people.
We went to class with nicerival like real rival.
Yeah yeah, for sure.
And then the Kubasaki had theshogun and the samurai, the.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Kubasaki, that's fantastic.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Yeah, so we.
That way we had four teams.
You played each one twice.
That way you could get a couplegames in, and then you played
the, the Japanese College once.
Wow it was in her test.
Why I'm saying like you'retalking about you, like I went
to a school where they split ourteam.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Well, we had nine in my graduating class, so let's
just tell you something.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
I sound like Emily, my wife probably walked to
school and Morris I don't eventhink they had cars at that
point.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
So, but but think about this people would argue
that Michael Jordan is probablythe greatest basketball player
of all time, and I was.
I saw, I saw a quote from himrecently Okay, I'll give you
Kobe, I'll give you LeBron, I'llgive you Larry Bird.
Would would definitely be upthere, shaq would be up there.
I.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Will go on record and say that I think Michael Jordan
Couldn't compete with the guysin today's age.
Well, you absolutely was in anage where the sport was growing
and he was just very dominant.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Well, I don't disagree, but you're still in
the NBA.
I mean, to win six nationalchampionships in eight years is
almost unheard of.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
I Mean, just because you're in the NBA doesn't mean
you that good, let's just bereal.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Well, I mean, look at Charles Barkley.
Charles Barkley, he saidsomebody asked him I was
watching article on him not toolong ago and they said Charles,
they call him Chuck, chuck, youwere, you were incredible back
in the day.
He goes, I really wasn't.
He said Well, who?
They said, who do you think wasthe best basketball player of
all time?
And he said Tim Duncan wasprobably the best basketball
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player of all time.
The guy could shoot fromanywhere.
He could post you up, he couldspin, he could move, he could
rebound, he could dunk, he couldshot, block.
He had it all.
And then they said, but Chuckyou?
You said all kinds of records.
He said, yeah, but that's whathappens when a good player is on
a bad team, he said.
He said that's that's what,that's what my Role was.
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He said they kept moving me fromthe Sixers to the you know,
wherever else he played, he saidand and we weren't that good,
we were not it's funny becauseyou see the impact that people
have the like yoke.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
It's like that man looks like a wet noodle when oh
yeah.
But I'm every time it goes in.
I mean literally the man lookslike he's wearing flip-flop,
like somebody posted a video onetime and it was hilarious.
It was like Yolkich when heruns down the court looks like
he's running in flip-flops.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Oh, absolutely.
No, but he plays like TimDuncan you know you go, you go
back, but I mean, other peoplewould argue that Kobe was the
one of the greatest players ofall.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
I still think to date , like that, nobody had the
Mamba mentality and here's thething the creators own culture.
He's no word he 100% did he?
Speaker 2 (14:14):
and here's here's the thing about Kobe when he had
that accident and obviously ittore the world.
You know that he passed away inthe helicopter crash.
Look at the impact that, whatthat he left behind To not just
his family but to the fans, tothe city of LA.
I mean those people wereeverywhere and Kobe just had
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that, to your point.
He had a key, had the keycreative of his own culture, he
had his own.
When he stepped on the court,no one was going to beat him.
Yeah, michael Jordan actuallysaid this best.
He said he said I never gotbeat.
And they said what do you mean?
He said we never got beat.
He said we just ran out of time.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
The clock ran out.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
I mean, but it's, it's a.
It's a good point because youknow people like Jordan, kobe,
shaq, tim Duncan, lebron today'sI mean you can't get any better
than him.
In today's war.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
He said every record you could think of except unless
we talk about previous, he'sone of the few that hasn't
gotten himself in trouble at all.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
He hasn't, and that's , that's a, that's a testament
in the impact in itself.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
There to the girl that he was dating, like in a
high school.
What is cool Everything.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Yeah, I mean, he's his kids.
His son's going to play at USC.
He'll probably a one and done.
Go to the pros.
I'm sure the LeBron willtransfer.
By the way, the rumor on thestreets Atlanta he may go to
play for the Hawks.
That's weird, it's really weird.
But the thing is the impact.
You know, what does someoneleave on your?
What do you want your legacy tobe?
Yeah, so I got a question foryou and then I'll answer the
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same.
Shoot it.
Who is one person?
That you can think of one personthat has made the biggest
impact on your life, and why?
Outside of family outside offamily, because obviously we'd
probably say our dads.
I would imagine, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
And that's a tough one.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Man.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
I'd, I'd almost have to say probably past your brain.
I think I've made that pointbefore that, yeah, I feel like a
lot of the reason I even dovideography and photography now
is because he got me into it andso he gave up a lot of time and
dealt with a, a young Dad, thatbasically had a lot of attitude
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issues.
Yeah and allowed me to Lead astudent ministry which, dear God
, I joke all the time.
I'm like we screwed them.
I talked powers, not joke busall the time.
I'm like I think we screwedthem kids up.
I look over some of some of thestuff these kids are doing.
I'm like we jacked these kids upremember, remember, control
what you can control, you cancontrol but yeah, but he there's
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a lot of times you know this isobviously before they had their
son or before we had our girlsbut he gave a lot of Saturdays
to teach me how to edit and justtalking me through things and
Talking me like what I need tolook for and why I need to shoot
, and I mean I don't remember.
I remember not evenunderstanding what Aperture was
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and what depth is, where youknow, like oh yeah nice and
crisp and clean and I rememberlike hey, hey, how I make stuff
like blurry behind me, like whatis that?
Yeah, and he was like you gotto have this and this is like so
it's gonna be blurry, like likeeverything's out of focus.
Is that what it's called?
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
It was.
It was impactful.
I think a lot of the reasonthat I got into it I mean I had
a love in high school, like I.
I've always enjoyed video ofalways and I didn't really I
didn't really like photographyat all.
It, just as we've progressed,photography goes hand-in-hand
with your projects.
So I've had, I kind of taughtmyself and actually enjoyed a
little bit more.
But I think a lot of that cameHonestly from that impact.
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But it wasn't just in a media.
I mean he taught me how topreach the word and, yeah,
taught me how to communicatewith others and how to be a good
communicator and just a lot ofthose things.
So a lot of the things that Itook I mean I take it into a lot
of what I do now with Serpa,like giving presentations and
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talking to our team andcommunicating through issues and
, you know, helping resolveproblems we have.
I mean there's just I mean thelist could go on and on, but a
lot, I think a lot of that youknow outside of what came from
my own family, like from my dad,what he's taught.
I mean if you're looking 100%outside of family, you're just
looking at those, that for methat would be it.
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I think that's a.
I think a lot of the reason Ieven work for Serpa now is
because of the Opportunities hepresented to me right, sure,
sure, yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
I mean for me, I think, to your point outside of
family, it's probably, I Wouldprobably have to say, rick
Isaacson, and the reason I sayhim he taught me, really had a
manage, how to lead, how to leadby example.
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He taught us, even though Ididn't spend a ton of time with
him every time we were aroundhim.
By the way, rick Isaacson isthe is the.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
He's currently the CEO of surf bro industries
currently he's retiring at theend Getting ready to make some
moves.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
You know so, but he always taught me and my brother
how to lead by example, how tohave good communication skills
to the best of our ability.
He taught us to think, hetaught us to plan, he taught us
to plot, he taught us to Give ustools of how we could grow.
He taught us I, and he taughtus a lot really, and we owe a
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lot to our business journey, notjust in surf pro but our other
business ventures, becausemanaging people- it's relatable
to other things.
Yeah, I mean managing can go alloutside of business, right?
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Doesn't have to be mitigation minded, it's
entrepreneurship.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Correct and even outside of that.
I mean, I think the reason thatour team, even at our church,
does so well is because we'reable to manage the process.
Are we making tweaks?
Absolutely, and it's takingtime.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
Don't hear this, and think oh man they got it
together.
What's funny is we joked aboutwhat to talk about topic for
tonight and you brought upcommunication.
I was like Benji we still gotway too many things to work on
with communication for us to be.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
But I think we will end up doing that at some point.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
It's getting better, I think it's-.
Every business probablystruggles with communication.
Every business.
We joke all the time.
You know my buddies at the gym.
We talk about their business, Imean even.
I mean we deal with the samethings at church that they deal
with even from a serve level.
Just communicating and you know, like people canceling in the
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last minute and being able justto communicate and let know
what's going on.
I mean that's, I think that'ssomething.
Ultimately, to me,communication is something that
can never, it never really isresolved.
It just you know how to manageit well.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Right, and that's what I was getting at.
I mean as far as managing,because you have to be able to
manage the process.
You got to be able to managethe time.
You got to be able to manageyour resources.
You got to be able to manageyour people.
There's all kinds of differentthings, but he taught us so much
about that in business thatit's gone to other areas of our
life and that's what's helpedmake us successful.
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We're still growing, we're stilllearning, we're still
processing, we're still pushingforward, but it's really helped
us to, you know, take it to thenext level, outside of our
business world.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Yeah, and I mean like , and I'm not even first of all,
the listeners just becauseyou're watching, like I'm not
going to sit here and shareanything about Benji because I'm
not going to get myself allteary-eyed with you about you,
but your brother has been bigthis year.
I think that's something elsefor me from a, from a, I guess,
just another level of leadership, Like it's.
He's always scared me to deathand I tell people all the time
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he still scares me to death andit's.
But that was a big thing.
I felt like I've learned fromhim this year and I catch myself
saying things that he says youknow I talked about in the
previous episode where you knowhe, I mentioned something and
he's like well, that's ablockade.
And even in my, my recentquarter three planning, I'm like
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not to, not to have no in myvocabulary because it creates a
blockade.
And he was like where'd thatcome from?
I was like that was from you.
You said that he's like did?
I say that and I'm like, yeah,you said it to me like a week
ago and he was like ah, so I'mrubbing off on you.
That's good to know.
I'm like, oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Yeah, I know.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
But I mean, it's stuff like that with him.
And then, you know, the otherday we had a, we had a
communication issue with somebuilding usage and I was talking
to one of our other teammembers and explain to them.
I'm like, hey, like how didthis?
Like we need to figure out aprocess.
You know, their thing is likehey, we don't need to do that
now, we we need to do, we can doit later.
(23:08):
Like we're already here, weneed to fix what's happening now
.
I was like you're right, but weall I'm also going to ask these
questions because I know thisis what Brady would ask and he
was like, yeah, he was like I'dwant to know how did we get from
A to like F?
Like how did we get to thispoint where we didn't
communicate things or peoplearen't aware of what's going on?
So I think that's beenimpactful to from I don't want
(23:32):
to necessarily say leadership,even though he does.
He's a fantastic leader.
I tell him he needs to have hisown podcasts all the time.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
We might get him here sometime.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
He's got a podcast for it.
He makes fun of me for thispodcast, Like he's not going to
do it Every day.
Before we started meeting, hewas like Brady, here's your
official invite.
He's guaranteed he's notlistening.
But like, did you not?
He's like hey, you're workingon church stuff today, you're
working on podcast stuff today.
Are you working on my stuff?
I'm like he does it every timebefore we meet, but I think him
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is his.
His is a critical thinking isprobably the best way I put it.
I feel like he, leo and I werejoking about this today when we
were talking about some thingsthat we needed to do.
What we do for him is like youknow, that's not what Brady's
going to say, right, like he'sgoing to say this, this and this
.
It's just a critical thinkingpart.
I think it's he's done.
(24:19):
It's just been impactful.
You, like I said, not reallynecessarily leading people or
other things, just changing howI respond and what I think or
how I'm going to develop athought process about a
situation or how to fixsomething.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Well so so here's the thing, what we've to our
listeners.
We've just been talking aboutpositive impact, right?
So I want to shift gears just atouch.
Talk about a situation.
Don't name the person's name,obviously, but maybe something
that's had a negative impact onyou and what you did to correct
(24:56):
it.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Okay, I'll tell you a funny one before I tell you.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Yeah, heck yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
So today I had lunch with a contact on mom.
I had lunch with my mom and wegot back, we pulled in and I'm
going to say names because Idon't care if it's just someone.
Tell her that we talked abouther, kj, we pulled in.
We pulled in from lunch.
We went down to Smiley Brothersand came back and pulled in
from lunch and KJ.
And then we're coming back fromlunch and they were in the
drive little pool, like pullinginto our office, and I pulled
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her and KJ.
I was like can y'all move?
Y'all blocking everybody?
And she was like oh my gosh, isthat your mother?
I need to meet her, which ourlisteners we call KJ, mama K.
Oh yeah, she's like the mom ofthe office.
Well, here's the funny part.
This is the negative impact.
Okay, all right, I start to sitthere and I tell my mom I was
like she's talking, like KJ'sbeing on, that she's like you
have such a good boy, like he'slike.
(25:42):
I'm like okay, thank you, doyou want me to leave so you can
tell my mom what you reallythink?
So I was like don't listen toher mom, she has me trained.
And she was like what do youmean?
They're both like what do youmean?
Has me trained?
I said today I'm sitting in myoffice and I sit.
I can't see KJ's office, butshe's kind of adjacent to where
mine is and she goes Adam West,and I'm like, yes, ma'am, she
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didn't answer, just silent.
And I'm like KJ, she didn'tanswer and I thought I got up
and I walked into her office andshe's sitting there and she's
like, hey, I have a questionabout this.
It was when we were emailingyou guys today.
So she had a question about itand I was like so yeah, I
answered it.
I started to walk back to mydesk.
(26:27):
Benji, I had an epiphany or amoment that I realized this
woman has me trained.
She doesn't even say anythingto the point or doesn't come to
my office.
She knows.
Oh yeah, if she just says myname, you're going, I'll get up.
It hit me on the way back.
I'm like, oh my gosh, so thislike literally, and I said I
(26:50):
started thinking back and forth.
I was like this happened theother day.
The other day she was in heroffice talking to Kathy.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
We call that deja vu sometimes, Adam oh my gosh,
benji.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
She goes.
Man, I need to go get thatwater out of my car and I was
like I'll get it for you, mom.
Ok, she's got me trained Likeit's ridiculous negative impact.
That's great, I'm gonna tellher.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
So I have one.
There was a gentleman I'm notgonna mention their name that
years ago we used to work for usand he had a negative.
Everything he did was negative.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
I would tell you that would be, that would be.
I'll have one after you, butthat would be mine as well.
I feel like negativity.
That's a whole other podcast,but negativity.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
This gentleman, everything you did, he was
negative.
It didn't matter if you toldhim he looked great today.
He was gonna be mad.
He was gonna.
He didn't care what thesituation was, he was negative
about everything.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
But I will tell you, negativity breeds it.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
He was probably then the reason, I believe, my dad
kept him around for so long ishe was the most loyal person
ever probably that has everworked for SurfProbe in our
organization ever.
I mean, this guy was there atsix in the morning until 10, 11
at night.
Now that doesn't mean someone'sloyal.
(28:15):
Let me set the record straight.
The reason why he was there forso long is because between nine
and four he was in your office,my office.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
I was gonna say bad time management, I bet.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
It was very bad time management, but I remember there
was many employees that wereimpacted by this gentleman.
That was just so negative andwe had many people leave so we
had to make a decision.
One day we were like what arewe gonna do with this?
How are we gonna handle thesituation?
We end up having to make thesituation right.
But my point is you can havepeople that have a very good
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positive impact on your life but, just as important, you can
have someone that's got a verynegative impact and that can be
very harmful, creates poisonthroughout your company and
causes culture.
We talked about culturecomparison a few episodes ago,
and if you're trying to compareyour people to others in culture
, make sure it's positive,definitely not negative.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
I probably won't name any names.
I know you didn't really dothat.
I won't name any names of mine,but that has to be.
We went through some changesjust in some of our friends
group and things like that, someof the guys that I work out
with.
There's been just somenegativity with guys that I used
(29:36):
to work out with and do stuffand that was always a tough
thing.
I mean, it was tough because hehad a lot that was going on in
his life, a lot that was goingon in my family.
But man it was just it was hardbecause they had a lot of times
where they might complain aboutsomething at work or things that
was going on with family.
And you wanna have a safe space, like that's the thing, like
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that's a big thing about it Withany group that you're with,
like you wanna be able to havesome guys I mean, I joke with
you all the time that I wishsometimes you and Eric would
just be negative and not bepositive positive about
everything.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
But Probably not gonna have, probably not gonna
have?
Speaker 1 (30:10):
No, probably not.
But I think there's adifference.
Like I have moments where I'mjust like frustrated and that's
where negativity comes from.
It's not like I'm just negativeto be negative, but I just felt
myself after those days ofworking out or whatever it was,
like we different groups.
I would just feel frustratedfor no reason, but I think I was
(30:33):
frustrated as I think moreabout it.
Well, if I'm constantly aroundfrustration, I'm gonna start
finding things to be frustratedabout and feel it robs off on
you it does, and we've talkedabout this even on our own team
at the church and on our ownteam with our, our Serb Pro team
.
You have those people thatyou're like, hey, things aren't
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always gonna go right.
Okay, Fact of the matter,nothing's ever gonna go right,
and this is what I keep tellingpeople.
Well, always control what youcan control, because if you keep
trying to control things youcan't, to me that's the
definition of an insanity whicheverybody knows the definition
of insanity is doing the samething over and over and
expecting different results.
Yeah, sometimes being negativeis that's what it reminds me of
(31:15):
is you're just constantly being.
You're just you're hoping thatif I continue being negative,
it'll fix itself.
Yeah, and it's not gonna fixitself.
So I think that's the thingthat you can have, because I
think, I almost think sometimesand I hate saying it this way,
but a negative impact can almosthave more of an impact on your
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life than positive, if you allowit to.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Absolutely, if that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
If that makes sense what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
No, it totally does, cause I mean you think about it,
you start.
I mean, even the Bible says youknow, a fool speaks out of his
mouth, and I'm paraphrasing theverse.
But basically this is the BNGversion.
Yeah, basically, I mean thinkabout it.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
You Aricism.
And then, what Pastor Rickcalls it, he calls it, he calls
it Aricism.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
I mean, you say it out loud our words are very
powerful, yep, our thoughts arevery powerful, because the enemy
wants to come, still, kill anddestroy, and what he does is he
can use the words against you,you know, to use it as a
disadvantage.
So if you're being negative andyou start to let's say this,
(32:22):
your gossiping right, yourgossiping about this, this, this
and this.
Well, what happens is you end upin the circle and then you
start gossiping, gossiping,gossiping, whatever the case is,
and you start being comingapart of it, and then it just
becomes like fuel.
Man, it's just, you know flowright off.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Well, it becomes.
That's the only way some, likeyou know, I've thought about it
Like, if it continues, sometimesthat's the only way you have a
relationship with anybody, right?
Like that's the only way thatyou have a relationship with
somebody is through beingnegative.
Yeah, speaking of negativity,this isn't negative, but my
daughters hold my hand right now.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
Oh nice, this is the same.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Sorry for our listeners, that's positive,
that's positive, that's positive, that's very positive.
The same as last week, but it'syou know it's at the end of the
day, man.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
And, by the way, sarah hates when I say at the
end of the day.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
She says I say that for everything.
At the end of the day, this isthe impact you have, because I
say it all the time.
If you, if you were it'snormally how I let you know I'm
ending a statement.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Yeah, if you, if you do that all the time and you end
up listening to negative andcontinue to feed off of it, what
happens is you turn into whatyou hear, what you see, you know
, so you got to be very careful.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
And it's important to mention as well that it fuels
those relationships Like, forinstance, I've had relationships
with people where all we do ishave a complaint session and I
start to realize well, this isthe only thing we have in common
yeah, and if we're notcomplaining, what's there to
talk about?
Yeah, for sure.
So what I mean is you have tobe careful, because your whole
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relationship can develop fromthat.
So that I mean you, you, youwant to have a positive impact
on people will end up happeningif the two of you get together
and you're just like, oh, Idon't like when this person does
this and this person does thatand I don't understand why we
can't be like this or we can'tbe this way.
That ends up being your entirerelationship.
So then your negativenegativity is a cancer.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
It is definitely.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
It's a cancer because it and it spreads.
Because when you start, Ialways tell people negativity
breeds negativity.
So it does, it doesn't.
It's the same thing forpositive.
Positivity breeds positivity,you know.
And so those things go hand inhand.
And I think sometimes you haveto look at that, because if you
are trying to have an impactfulrelationship with someone, or
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trying to mentor them, as wetalked about, or just trying to
have a relationship with someone, if it's entirely built off the
two of you having a complainsession I'm trying to be as
general as possible just havinga complaint session, that's in
just all your relationshipsbuilt up.
So what is coming out of thatrelationship?
(34:57):
Like, how are the two of youthat you're supposed to help
each other, you're supposed tohelp each other, grow?
This is a big thing that mybuddy Powers not talk about all
the time.
Is that just not allowingourselves to get into that place
of negativity Right?
And I mean, yes, we havemoments where we're stressed,
(35:17):
but we have those, but we'retrying not to get into those
moments.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
You know you think about that.
It's true.
I mean, no one ever wants to bein that situation.
Sometimes they get suckered inbecause it is, you know, for
whatever reason they getsuckered into the conversation.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
You know they're just it just drags you down.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
I mean ultimately, there's a song out that Tim
McGraw's done.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Not gonna sing, it are you.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
No, I'm not gonna sing it.
No, I would, but I'm not.
But it's called Standing RoomOnly and you can get the idea by
the title of song.
Basically, this person haslived their life and the last
couple lines of the chorus saysI wanna live a life so that when
I die, there is standing roomonly, standing room only.
(36:02):
And the point of the song iseverything that we do is going
to impact people, positive ornegative, and what I wanna have
for my life one day is when thattime comes for me.
We've talked about that dashbefore.
You know, on the gravestone youhave two dates on it.
Yeah, you got the beginning andthen you got the dash.
(36:24):
And then whenever that timecomes is the end.
What did we do with the dash?
Well, the dash.
I want to make a positiveimpact on people.
That's why I don't, I do notassociate myself with negative
talk.
I try not to.
Anyway, I shouldn't say I don't, I try my best not to.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
You're very good at that.
I will say you are ridiculouslygood at removing yourself from
it.
And even like, even like whenwe, joking jokingly, get
together and like you know, mywife and your wife are all
talking about stuff, you're justkind of like.
You're like, okay, I'm like.
Well, like did you hear the T?
Like did you hear the drama?
Like you're like gossiping,like we probably shouldn't, but
(37:02):
you're very you're always beengood about keeping like, just
being emotionally disconnectedfrom it, like yeah, yeah, I just
I try to because, and not withyou guys, but it's just you want
to be very careful because-.
You're just, you're unbothered,I guess, is what I'm trying to
say.
Correct, unbothered with it.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
I want to impact people in such a way that when
they, when my time comes, it'slike my father when he passed.
He had such an impact on peoplefrom a positivity standpoint,
an encouraging standpoint, amotivational standpoint, a
leadership standpoint, abusiness owner standpoint, an
entrepreneur.
You know well, whatever.
(37:40):
Yeah, that I want people toremember the impact that I had
on my life.
Yeah, I want my family to beable to say man, my husband, my
dad, he did things the best ofhis ability, he controlled what
he could, and I want them toremember me for that reason.
Now, no sob story, honey, don'tworry about it.
(38:02):
Nothing's gonna happen to meanytime soon, so don't worry
about that.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
But you know, hey basically you want to do to me?
You're saying that like youjust want to make sure when you
leave you feel like you hadsomething that you did, like
there's you don't want to justhave lived and you know and
moved on, like you want to beable to leave something behind
that other people can learn fromor grow from or you know just
(38:30):
better themselves.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
Have a better lifestyle or just a better
individual, better character,better traits.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
I mean you can go on.
I mean, ultimately, I wantpeople to know that I am a
Christian and when I pass I havegone to heaven and hopefully it
can impact them in such a waythat they see Jesus through the
process, whether they know himor don't know him.
But if they don't know him,they can come to know him.
And that's ultimately what it'sall about.
And that's why I try to livethat life, so that, hey, maybe
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there is standing room.
Only one day we'll see.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
Yeah, I had when my dad retired.
I always, it always sticks tomy mind, but when they did his
retirement ceremony they justtalked about I mean he did 43
years in the Air Force and youknow Full Bird Colonel.
I mean he just all that, youknow when he retired.
So I mean very big shoes leftfor me to fill.
(39:22):
You know, I'm like I filmedstuff with a camera.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
No, we got a lot of life ahead, though.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
We did a lot of life ahead of us.
So but I, you know, I talk, Italk here's.
Somebody said one time thatduring his time in the Air Force
, you know, he left a legacythat could fill 10 chapels, you
know, and I'm like that's a, Imean that's a lot of people that
you know.
You think about what he did,and I mean not just that, I mean
(39:51):
he served, you know, I mean hewas in Afghanistan.
He, you know he did a yearthere which was the ID ward.
That's a whole otherconversation that you know led
to a lot of his PTSD that hedeals with.
But there's a lot of things thathe did and I just always, that
always just stuck out to me thathe left a legacy that someone
(40:12):
to say the people that heaffected, could fill up to 10
chapels.
And the chapels on the militarybases typically are very large,
you know, because they're usedfor so many different
denominations.
So it was just always impactfulto hear somebody say that like,
hey, there's a lot of peoplethat you served and that you
(40:32):
provided service to that neededit, because being in the
military or being in militaryfamilies not an easy process.
So I just always thought it'salways, I'm always hung out to
him, like that's a really coolway to put it.
Speaker 2 (40:43):
That I've done.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
how, like, how many people could truly say you know
you impacted them?
I mean, and I'd be happy withthis.
I tell people all the time,like even I joke about with
social media, like people arelike oh man, I've got like 40,
50,000 likes.
I'm like man, I'm happy withlike 20.
If like 20 or 30 people like apicture I post or a video to me,
(41:07):
that's impactful, Cause I thinkin my mind I'm like what if
those 20 or 30 people or 15people were in a room watching
me with what I do?
I mean that's intimidating.
Yeah, yeah, to think about likepeople look at that, like oh
man, you only got like 15 likesor 20 likes.
You know, think about theimpact that you have on people
(41:27):
even from that like that's big.
I mean you put all those peoplein a room.
That's a lot of people in aroom, it's.
That's a lot, that's a lot.
I just there's a lot that goeswith it, but I think that's
always been something that'sstuck in my head.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
Yeah, I mean think about this.
We, as you know, we're Disneyfans Actually, Sarah's more of a
Disney fan than I am, but we,we, we'll be going to Disney
here in a few weeks again andthink about the impact that
Disney makes on people.
Right, they take your moneythey take.
They take your money, Gladlytake your money to give you an
(42:03):
experience, Everything that you.
It doesn't matter if you're ona bus.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
It's the only way they're making money.
Right now, benji, they'relosing it in all their movies.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
I agree.
But hey, they do it right.
They want your familyexperience.
When you get on the bus, whenyou get to a resort, when you
get to the parks, whatever thecase is, if you get on the train
, they're gonna make you thinkit's the best train ride and all
the thing does go around thepark.
I mean, it's that simple, theimpact that they leave on your
(42:31):
children, on us.
They make the customer serviceexperience so good that it makes
you wanna go back and give themmore money and it's like you
know.
Think of the impact that oneguy's vision had many, many,
many years ago with a mouse.
That has turned into a hugething, not just Disney World,
(42:54):
but Disneyland.
You got other places across theworld that they have it and
it's like Think about the impactlike Apple's made.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
Think about how many different Apple products you
bought in your life.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
Oh yeah, and here's think about this.
That's a great point.
Think about this how many timeshave you replaced your iPhone?
I mean without breaking it?
Speaker 1 (43:09):
how many times have you upgraded your iPhone?
Honestly, the only thing I dois upgrade it because I keep
coming out.
We're going to tell you I don'tthink I've ever had an iPhone
die on me.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
Yeah, I bet.
I have five.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
I will say this watch right here is starting to get
to the end of its cycle.
When I keep joking my wifeabout updating it because it's
starting to lose its battery,that's what I'm saying, but I've
also had it for like five years, I'm convinced.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
just for the listeners, I'm just saying I am
a big Apple fan.
Speaker 1 (43:33):
Everything I have is Apple.
I am convinced that theydownstream everything, but I
will tell you.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
I think that they do that on purpose, where they make
the life cycle your devices goout so you have to upgrade.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
Well, it's probably because their products are so
well made.
They're like oh dang, we killedourselves when you down cycle
this thing, so they buysomething new.
Speaker 2 (43:48):
Apple's gotten so bad with me that I watched their
stupid keynote sessions.
When they come out in Septemberand April, we're thinking about
this.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
I mean, we're just talking about that for a second,
but just think about howthey're one of the few companies
that make things that arelasting.
I mean, think about, like whenI'm my grandparents I swear to
you, benji, I think my mom's dadprobably had the same fridge he
had like before I was born.
Yeah, like them suckers.
Them suckers were made tosurvive.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
Oh, absolutely.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
So I think about that and I think about just what
they were.
So Apple's probably doing thesame thing.
I really do think that theyrealized that they were like
y'all, mistakes were made, wemade a good of a product.
Speaker 2 (44:30):
So I'll give you a funny about Apple.
In 1995, I think it was I was asophomore in high school and we
had to do a.
I was in one of my historyclasses, or economics or
something I think it waseconomics class actually and we
had to do an analysis on stocksand my stock that I chose I'm
not lying was Apple.
I am kicking myself because, bythe way, I failed economics in
(44:53):
college three times.
Speaker 1 (44:55):
Yeah, you have such a large company.
Speaker 2 (44:57):
If I would have known what I know about Apple today,
in 1997, when I graduated highschool, I should have bought
stock in Apple.
I'd be a millionaire, like quadbillionaire.
Whatever, those guys have doneit right.
Speaker 1 (45:10):
They have done it right.
We also know that I was jokingwith Leo about what I do for my
job.
I told him I was reading my QBRto him my queen B role, like
what my role is and I was like,yeah, I was like I joked with
Brady that I feel like I'm justa data miner.
He was like can you mind somelike Bitcoins while you're at it
?
Speaker 2 (45:27):
Like I don't even understand what that means.
Here's a real question When'sthe last time you had a Windows
device or an Android?
Have you ever had an Android?
Speaker 1 (45:34):
Oh man, like I make fun of people that use the
Androids.
Like do you know there's legitand I don't have anything to.
I'm throwing this out thereLike I have no case studies to
go with this, but do you knowthey actually say that there is
a negative syndrome that you'relooked down upon if you have the
green bubble Really In a textgroup, like they're not like?
Speaker 2 (45:58):
I don't remember where it was.
I do hate that.
It's annoying.
It's annoying to me that I textsomeone that gets a green.
Speaker 1 (46:01):
But that's right there, what you're talking about
.
Apple has such a large impactthat they say that with kids
today and I keep saying they.
I promise you.
I heard this report on the news.
I just want to please don'tquote me.
I'm sorry, we don't have aproducer.
They can go up and look thingsup and say up Hear me now.
Stop, stop.
I have no one to facts, checkme before I say it Like big
(46:22):
podcast do, but it was somethingthey had on the news and they
were talking about that.
Kids today feel less aboutthemselves if they don't have
like an eye message and you'reconsidered you're in a green
bubble.
Speaker 2 (46:36):
Like I'm like that's just crazy.
Yeah, that is crazy.
But again.
Speaker 1 (46:42):
That's the impact of having something like that,
because I understand they are.
They're a more expensive device.
They've done a lot to try andadjust that.
But the problem is we had thisconversation today.
We were talking with someoneabout car wraps and we're having
trouble with when we need toget the cheapest price.
And I told him I was like guys,at the end of the day, I just
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want you all to remember we needto look at X, y and Z for who
we get our car wraps done for.
But I said, always take thisinto consideration.
I was like I'm just throwingthis out there that cheap work
typically isn't on par with whatyou consider is good work.
I tell people all the time andI heard this is a Nick Gooder
quote and he may have gotten itfrom somewhere else I just this
is where I heard it from himthat cheap work isn't good and
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good work isn't cheap.
That's true.
That's true.
I had a conversation withsomeone the other day that said
one of the things I'm doing withmyself right now, like this
weekend I have one of my firstfilming projects for someone
that is a paying project and Imean it's a good little chunk
that I'm able to pull from itand the number I threw out there
(47:45):
probably seems high.
But what I've always toldpeople be a hustler, throw a
number, what you feel likeyou're worth, put your number
out there.
If they accept it, then theyfeel that you're worth that.
If they don't wait untilsomeone else will, somebody will
see that you have value andworth and they will pay you what
(48:07):
you feel like you're worth.
Don't try to downsize yourselffrom it.
But anyways, that's a wholeanother podcast.
Yeah, no, it is, I feel likewe've said that we need to just
start jotting these down,because I feel like we said it
so much during the show.
Speaker 2 (48:17):
I started this by asking you about Windows,
because we actually have aWindows device at our church for
our lighting console.
We run the Grand MA3.
Oh, yes, and that Windowsdevice drives me crazy, but it
works.
Speaker 1 (48:29):
It does work, I do.
I make fun of I hope if shelistens but Jennifer's HR
department.
She is a Windows person.
She doesn't want anything else,so she has a Windows, but they
need it for some, which is funnytoo, because some of the things
we use for mitigation requireWindows but luckily we can do
them from our Apple devicesthrough different systems we can
(48:51):
run.
But I haven't given her a hardtime.
I make fun of her every time Iwalk in and she's like, well, I
can't figure this out.
I'm like, well, maybe if youdidn't have that crappy Windows
device, you could make it easier.
That's right.
Speaker 2 (49:00):
Well, see, Apple's done it right to your point, the
impact they've made.
If you have an iPhone, youprobably won't, or have an iPad,
or you have a Mac at your houseor a MacBook Pro to be on the
go.
So you got four devices, allbecause you want to be on the
cloud and everything syncs upseamless.
Speaker 1 (49:16):
Yes, well, it's funny because I hate Windows and
Microsoft so much, but sittingright over here is my baby, my
Xbox One.
So I mean which is funny,because I don't like PlayStation
, but yet I'm a Sony fanboy whenit comes to cameras, Like I'm
just all screwed up.
That's pretty funny.
So I mean, like I don't want aPlayStation, but I want them for
the.
You know, it's just all.
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So I mean, it's all impactful.
Speaker 2 (49:38):
Before our listeners as we wrap this show up.
I mean, ask yourself thisquestion Not only, who is the
person, Ben, that has impactedyour life the most Reach out to
him, thank him but what kind ofimpact can you leave on someone
else?
We did kind of discuss this inour mentoring segment, but it
really goes into you know, whatdo you want to do when you pass
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from this earth one day?
What do you want to be knownfor, what do you want to be
remembered for, and what kind ofimpact can you leave for other
people?
And, at the end of the day,like Adam was talking about, to
be positive with people, becausethe better positive that you
can be will only help them.
Maybe you're getting them outof a negative situation,
negative conversation, and beingpositive changes everything.
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So I want to just encourage youguys.
Leave a positive impact onpeople.
Leave an impact.
Speaker 1 (50:31):
Well, hey, we hope you guys have a great week.
We've enjoyed hanging out withyou, but, as we say every single
time, go and live a higher uplife.
We'll see you guys next time.
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Fine by.
Well, hey, hey, welcome into the higher up
podcast.
I'm Adam West, a video creator,and I'm joined by an
accomplished entrepreneur, benjiWilson.
Look, our mission is simple, isto empower you in every aspect
of your life, from business topersonal growth.
We're just here to inspire youto make a positive impact on the
world through sharing our ownlife experiences and having a
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chance to have conversationswith other successful
individuals.
But either way, together we'llexplore living a higher up life.
Let's jump into today's episode.
Well, benji, we're here.
I'm tired, I'm exhausted, butwe're filming and recording
episode nine.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
What are you tired from?
I mean, it's not been a longweek, oh my gosh man we had.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Yeah, it's been a long week.
Our church just finishedvacation Bible school, but I'm
excited it's the last year we'recalling it that.
As a branding person, you hearme talk about all the time.
I'm excited we are changing itto Summerama which is kind of a
cool name.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Everybody does vacation Bible school.
We just want to brand it alittle bit different.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Well, that's one of the things too.
I think that we'll have to, aswe do, some other episodes
branding.
Obviously, I want to get intothat one.
That may be a long one, becauseit's what I enjoy, but we may
do two on that Two on that one.
But branding is big and I thinkthat's something that we've
really tried to do the pastcouple of past year or two, not
(01:33):
couple years past year or two.
Take a lot of our really bigevents and we want to give them
a name.
We don't want to just be trunkor treat or like Easter egg drop
or egg hunt, because we haveone for during the fall season,
we have one for Easter and thenVBS is our other big.
So those are our three reallybig events that we do for the
(01:53):
community.
But it's cool, we want torebrand it and kind of give it a
name.
So we're going to call itSummerama.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
There's so many different things for us in our
community.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
But I'm excited because VBS reminds me of when
my dad led an old SouthernBaptist church back in the day.
Oh yeah, I'm kind of excited tomove away Brings back some good
memories.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
It brings back some memories, but to your point,
it's nothing wrong withrebranding it.
Give it a fresh facelift.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Yeah, it just gives it a fresh facelift.
I think when we hear the termVBS, I think that's kind of my
generation, your generation, butI think what our kids are in
they're like what?
Speaker 2 (02:31):
is that.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
So we're just trying to rebrand, but it's been a good
week.
We did four nights, which isgood, because we dropped from
five last year.
And the fourth night isactually not anything too overly
crazy.
It's a family night Hang out.
But man, I filmed all week andI'm tired, so it's so fun.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
I can't wait to see your recap video Sunday.
Hopefully it'll be good.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Shout out to Brooke.
Hopefully she listens to it.
She helped me all week.
Normally I handle the video andphotography, so I'm running
both.
Sometimes you miss moments, youcapture others because you're
switching back and forth.
So it was just really nice tokind of focus on one thing.
Yeah for sure, but yeah, we'llhave the recap video this
weekend.
By the time you all hear this,we'll have already shown it and
(03:15):
it'll be on social media, so goon church, josephwestovercom,
and check it out.
Check it out Shameless plug, butyeah, so it was good with that.
Just a lot going on.
I know you guys got to serve.
It was nice we had so manypeople serving this time.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
I know we joked about it with you and Sarah that
y'all kind of got to take it.
You're normally running andgunning man.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
this is the first time Sarah and I were talking
about this.
This is the first VBS we'llcall it, as everyone knows, and
we've.
This church has been herealmost 11 years now.
Yeah just had our 10th yearcelebration.
Yeah, we're in 11s coming upvery, very soon.
It's gonna be big.
We got another big event coming, so stay tuned if you're local
local.
Birmingham area.
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But this is the first eventthat we have not actually done
the entire planning of the event.
It's kind of nice.
Our children's director did afantastic job.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Called me one time asking about a recap video and
I'm like yes, sir, that was it.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
It was kind of nice.
The media director he did agreat job, Nick.
The team did a great job toyour point.
So it was just kind of nice.
We were able to handleregistration, check in, get
people their shirts and all.
So it's kind of nice to sitback and relax and actually got
to participate a little bit withour daughter.
So it's kind of nice.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Yeah, I look forward to the day.
It's tough because I want to beable to do that too, you're
getting close, you're gettingclose, but that's the tough part
.
I gotta be better about puttingaside how much I enjoy filming.
I've made the jokes a couple oftimes.
I'm looking to make someupgrades this year.
So, of course, when our fallfestival rolls around, I'm
(04:49):
hoping to have some nicerequipment.
I'm like I want to try it.
But, it's tough because I enjoyfilming and it's, but I need to
get to where I can have thatbalance and not film and just
trust everybody else.
That's the big thing that I'vebeen learning this year.
It was funny I just finished mybig quarter three or quarter
two, wrap up quarter three,playing in with your brother,
(05:11):
and that was one of my goals forthe year or for this quarter
really is probably for the yearis I've got to learn to be
better about trusting people andcontrolling what I can control.
So that's right?
Speaker 2 (05:22):
No, it's true, because you never know,
shameless plug, the impact thatyou make on other people.
Yup, just telling you.
You just don't know, don't wantto cut this, this is as bad as
a dad joke.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
That's good.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
That's because our topic tonight is on impact folks
.
Your topic pictures are alwaysbad dad jokes.
If you go back and listen.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
listeners go back and listen just to the first 10
minutes of each episode.
Benji has probably straight updad jokes to introduce a topic
every single time, dad joke.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
It's all good, though , but I mean, listen to this
impact, and we're going to startwith this, but we're also going
to impact it.
What kind of impact do you wantto have?
What kind of legacy do you wantto leave behind in your higher
up life for other people?
And it took me today, when wewere kind of talking through the
(06:10):
show notes.
It took me back to thedefinition of what impact is.
Now there's many different waysyou can look at this, but I
think the most common one is tohave a strong effect on someone
or something.
And I couldn't help but go backto my basketball days of
(06:31):
probably one of the greatestsome would argue the best
basketball player of all timeMichael.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
I'm not laughing at all thinking about you playing
basketball.
No, I'm not, that's not what'sgoing through my head at all
right now.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Hey, I was just so you are aware, adam, I was a all
state forward in 1A Christianschool basketball, so it doesn't
mean anything.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
It's just throwing that out there.
Is that the equivalent of wasit five man ball?
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Isn't that what some school we played with three.
No, I'm just kidding we hadfive.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
We played three on three and one league and one
league.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
But now we had a.
There was a guy who played atanother Christian school up in
Birmingham and this was the teamto beat that.
They destroyed people.
I'll never forget I wasstanding at the just just south
of the free throw line,essentially and he comes up and
he jumped over, literally overme, slam the basketball in our
(07:34):
own gym and he went on to playat the University of Alabama for
four years.
But he was, he was a solidplayer, but that was my.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
I mean I don't have any room to talk like at all.
I played for those of y'allthat don't know our listeners.
My dad was an Air Forcechaplain, so I spent my high
school days in Okinawa, japan,not even big enough to be on
mainland Japan.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Okinawa, Japan.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
And all we had two high schools.
Okay, I want, like we're goingto tell you back real quick.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Are these on base the base?
Speaker 1 (08:07):
on the base.
Well, we had ours on the AirForce base, and then we also had
the, the Marine installation.
Oh, okay, so we had us.
We had the gosh when I'm theKadena Panthers is what we were.
And then we had the Kuba SakiDragon.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Kuba.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Saki.
What was even funnier isbecause we didn't have a lot of
high schools to play.
We did have a couple ofJapanese schools.
We played legitimately, didplay a Japanese college.
Never in my life have I seenanything more entertaining than
as a 16, 17 year old kid, likestanding on the field getting
(08:44):
ready to play a play and lookingover and seeing a bunch of
grown Japanese men sharingcigarettes and running in and
out of the game.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
I kid you not, I kid you not.
I'm surprised there's staminaheld up.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Dude Spoken cigarettes Good night One would
come off.
I kid you not One.
Would come off the field andhanded to his buddy and then he
run on the field to get a hitand like and I hope it was
cigarettes.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
Oh, there was a cigarette.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
I thought I was saying.
I'm sitting here having thisconversation now and I'm like
maybe it wasn't a cigarette.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
I doubt that was a cigarette.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
They were smoking a sea urchin or something man, I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
So they?
They sounds like they had animpact on your life.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Oh they, I will tell you this I did, I didn't.
I mean I.
You know, I played D3 ball incollege and I've gotten hit
Football everyone, notbasketball Football football,
yeah, football, not basketballfootball.
I played at Huntington College,played as in.
I was the second string tied inand I was not meant to play
tight end because I lost toomuch weight.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
So oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
So learning to run route, that was fun, but
basically I lost my train ofthought because I just keep
thinking about them smoking onthe sideline but but yeah, so I
mean it was kind of I really didlose my thing in thought.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Been you were talking about.
You went to college to playball.
You played D3 football andplayed D3.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
So I wasn't anything like fantastic or anything but
you got to play college ball.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
That's fantastic.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
I did get to play college ball.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
I can't say that nobody's ever hit.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
That's where I was going.
I'm sorry, I completely lost mytrain of thought.
Nobody, even even playing D3.
There's some big boys in D3.
Oh yeah, absolutely.
I mean, everybody on that teamwas there.
They were their top dog attheir school, typically, you
know, and so I've never been hitas hard as I was by that
Japanese college.
I promise you, never in my lifehas anyone hit me that hard.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
So did you play in high school?
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Yeah, I mean I started, I started both.
We played Iron man ball.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
So I got defense and offense.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Now, what was fun is I got to play a dead line, but I
also played full back.
That's where I got this one Ilove for 10 play bucking ears
came from.
I was a Mike Oztop fan.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Nobody was better than the freight train man Do.
That guy could be barrelanybody.
They're bringing back thecreamsicle orange this way.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
I'm getting way off point, yeah.
So yeah, that's good big bigimpact it was.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
It was just nothing.
I've never experienced anythinglike that.
But where I was going is theysplit our.
They split us into two teams.
Every so our school.
I'd be sitting in class.
We had the then.
You're gonna laugh at me, butthis is where my love for my
team came from.
We had the Kadena Bucks or theBuccaneers right.
Islanders.
Okay, Kadena high school hadtwo football teams.
We practice on obsidens of theschool and we played against the
(11:23):
people.
We went to class with nicerival like real rival.
Yeah yeah, for sure.
And then the Kubasaki had theshogun and the samurai, the.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Kubasaki, that's fantastic.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Yeah, so we.
That way we had four teams.
You played each one twice.
That way you could get a couplegames in, and then you played
the, the Japanese College once.
Wow it was in her test.
Why I'm saying like you'retalking about you, like I went
to a school where they split ourteam.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Well, we had nine in my graduating class, so let's
just tell you something.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
I sound like Emily, my wife probably walked to
school and Morris I don't eventhink they had cars at that
point.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
So, but but think about this people would argue
that Michael Jordan is probablythe greatest basketball player
of all time, and I was.
I saw, I saw a quote from himrecently Okay, I'll give you
Kobe, I'll give you LeBron, I'llgive you Larry Bird.
Would would definitely be upthere, shaq would be up there.
I.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Will go on record and say that I think Michael Jordan
Couldn't compete with the guysin today's age.
Well, you absolutely was in anage where the sport was growing
and he was just very dominant.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Well, I don't disagree, but you're still in
the NBA.
I mean, to win six nationalchampionships in eight years is
almost unheard of.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
I Mean, just because you're in the NBA doesn't mean
you that good, let's just bereal.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Well, I mean, look at Charles Barkley.
Charles Barkley, he saidsomebody asked him I was
watching article on him not toolong ago and they said Charles,
they call him Chuck, chuck, youwere, you were incredible back
in the day.
He goes, I really wasn't.
He said Well, who?
They said, who do you think wasthe best basketball player of
all time?
And he said Tim Duncan wasprobably the best basketball
(13:08):
player of all time.
The guy could shoot fromanywhere.
He could post you up, he couldspin, he could move, he could
rebound, he could dunk, he couldshot, block.
He had it all.
And then they said, but Chuckyou?
You said all kinds of records.
He said, yeah, but that's whathappens when a good player is on
a bad team, he said.
He said that's that's what,that's what my Role was.
(13:28):
He said they kept moving me fromthe Sixers to the you know,
wherever else he played, he saidand and we weren't that good,
we were not it's funny becauseyou see the impact that people
have the like yoke.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
It's like that man looks like a wet noodle when oh
yeah.
But I'm every time it goes in.
I mean literally the man lookslike he's wearing flip-flop,
like somebody posted a video onetime and it was hilarious.
It was like Yolkich when heruns down the court looks like
he's running in flip-flops.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
Oh, absolutely.
No, but he plays like TimDuncan you know you go, you go
back, but I mean, other peoplewould argue that Kobe was the
one of the greatest players ofall.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
I still think to date , like that, nobody had the
Mamba mentality and here's thething the creators own culture.
He's no word he 100% did he?
Speaker 2 (14:14):
and here's here's the thing about Kobe when he had
that accident and obviously ittore the world.
You know that he passed away inthe helicopter crash.
Look at the impact that, whatthat he left behind To not just
his family but to the fans, tothe city of LA.
I mean those people wereeverywhere and Kobe just had
(14:35):
that, to your point.
He had a key, had the keycreative of his own culture, he
had his own.
When he stepped on the court,no one was going to beat him.
Yeah, michael Jordan actuallysaid this best.
He said he said I never gotbeat.
And they said what do you mean?
He said we never got beat.
He said we just ran out of time.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
The clock ran out.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
I mean, but it's, it's a.
It's a good point because youknow people like Jordan, kobe,
shaq, tim Duncan, lebron today'sI mean you can't get any better
than him.
In today's war.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
He said every record you could think of except unless
we talk about previous, he'sone of the few that hasn't
gotten himself in trouble at all.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
He hasn't, and that's , that's a, that's a testament
in the impact in itself.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
There to the girl that he was dating, like in a
high school.
What is cool Everything.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Yeah, I mean, he's his kids.
His son's going to play at USC.
He'll probably a one and done.
Go to the pros.
I'm sure the LeBron willtransfer.
By the way, the rumor on thestreets Atlanta he may go to
play for the Hawks.
That's weird, it's really weird.
But the thing is the impact.
You know, what does someoneleave on your?
What do you want your legacy tobe?
Yeah, so I got a question foryou and then I'll answer the
(15:44):
same.
Shoot it.
Who is one person?
That you can think of one personthat has made the biggest
impact on your life, and why?
Outside of family outside offamily, because obviously we'd
probably say our dads.
I would imagine, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
And that's a tough one.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Man.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
I'd, I'd almost have to say probably past your brain.
I think I've made that pointbefore that, yeah, I feel like a
lot of the reason I even dovideography and photography now
is because he got me into it andso he gave up a lot of time and
dealt with a, a young Dad, thatbasically had a lot of attitude
(16:35):
issues.
Yeah and allowed me to Lead astudent ministry which, dear God
, I joke all the time.
I'm like we screwed them.
I talked powers, not joke busall the time.
I'm like I think we screwedthem kids up.
I look over some of some of thestuff these kids are doing.
I'm like we jacked these kids upremember, remember, control
what you can control, you cancontrol but yeah, but he there's
(16:58):
a lot of times you know this isobviously before they had their
son or before we had our girlsbut he gave a lot of Saturdays
to teach me how to edit and justtalking me through things and
Talking me like what I need tolook for and why I need to shoot
, and I mean I don't remember.
I remember not evenunderstanding what Aperture was
(17:21):
and what depth is, where youknow, like oh yeah nice and
crisp and clean and I rememberlike hey, hey, how I make stuff
like blurry behind me, like whatis that?
Yeah, and he was like you gotto have this and this is like so
it's gonna be blurry, like likeeverything's out of focus.
Is that what it's called?
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
It was.
It was impactful.
I think a lot of the reasonthat I got into it I mean I had
a love in high school, like I.
I've always enjoyed video ofalways and I didn't really I
didn't really like photographyat all.
It, just as we've progressed,photography goes hand-in-hand
with your projects.
So I've had, I kind of taughtmyself and actually enjoyed a
little bit more.
But I think a lot of that cameHonestly from that impact.
(18:01):
But it wasn't just in a media.
I mean he taught me how topreach the word and, yeah,
taught me how to communicatewith others and how to be a good
communicator and just a lot ofthose things.
So a lot of the things that Itook I mean I take it into a lot
of what I do now with Serpa,like giving presentations and
(18:23):
talking to our team andcommunicating through issues and
, you know, helping resolveproblems we have.
I mean there's just I mean thelist could go on and on, but a
lot, I think a lot of that youknow outside of what came from
my own family, like from my dad,what he's taught.
I mean if you're looking 100%outside of family, you're just
looking at those, that for methat would be it.
(18:44):
I think that's a.
I think a lot of the reason Ieven work for Serpa now is
because of the Opportunities hepresented to me right, sure,
sure, yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
I mean for me, I think, to your point outside of
family, it's probably, I Wouldprobably have to say, rick
Isaacson, and the reason I sayhim he taught me, really had a
manage, how to lead, how to leadby example.
(19:16):
He taught us, even though Ididn't spend a ton of time with
him every time we were aroundhim.
By the way, rick Isaacson isthe is the.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
He's currently the CEO of surf bro industries
currently he's retiring at theend Getting ready to make some
moves.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
You know so, but he always taught me and my brother
how to lead by example, how tohave good communication skills
to the best of our ability.
He taught us to think, hetaught us to plan, he taught us
to plot, he taught us to Give ustools of how we could grow.
He taught us I, and he taughtus a lot really, and we owe a
(19:53):
lot to our business journey, notjust in surf pro but our other
business ventures, becausemanaging people- it's relatable
to other things.
Yeah, I mean managing can go alloutside of business, right?
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Doesn't have to be mitigation minded, it's
entrepreneurship.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Correct and even outside of that.
I mean, I think the reason thatour team, even at our church,
does so well is because we'reable to manage the process.
Are we making tweaks?
Absolutely, and it's takingtime.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
Don't hear this, and think oh man they got it
together.
What's funny is we joked aboutwhat to talk about topic for
tonight and you brought upcommunication.
I was like Benji we still gotway too many things to work on
with communication for us to be.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
But I think we will end up doing that at some point.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
It's getting better, I think it's-.
Every business probablystruggles with communication.
Every business.
We joke all the time.
You know my buddies at the gym.
We talk about their business, Imean even.
I mean we deal with the samethings at church that they deal
with even from a serve level.
Just communicating and you know, like people canceling in the
(21:02):
last minute and being able justto communicate and let know
what's going on.
I mean that's, I think that'ssomething.
Ultimately, to me,communication is something that
can never, it never really isresolved.
It just you know how to manageit well.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Right, and that's what I was getting at.
I mean as far as managing,because you have to be able to
manage the process.
You got to be able to managethe time.
You got to be able to manageyour resources.
You got to be able to manageyour people.
There's all kinds of differentthings, but he taught us so much
about that in business thatit's gone to other areas of our
life and that's what's helpedmake us successful.
(21:37):
We're still growing, we're stilllearning, we're still
processing, we're still pushingforward, but it's really helped
us to, you know, take it to thenext level, outside of our
business world.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
Yeah, and I mean like , and I'm not even first of all,
the listeners just becauseyou're watching, like I'm not
going to sit here and shareanything about Benji because I'm
not going to get myself allteary-eyed with you about you,
but your brother has been bigthis year.
I think that's something elsefor me from a, from a, I guess,
just another level of leadership, Like it's.
He's always scared me to deathand I tell people all the time
(22:08):
he still scares me to death andit's.
But that was a big thing.
I felt like I've learned fromhim this year and I catch myself
saying things that he says youknow I talked about in the
previous episode where you knowhe, I mentioned something and
he's like well, that's ablockade.
And even in my, my recentquarter three planning, I'm like
(22:29):
not to, not to have no in myvocabulary because it creates a
blockade.
And he was like where'd thatcome from?
I was like that was from you.
You said that he's like did?
I say that and I'm like, yeah,you said it to me like a week
ago and he was like ah, so I'mrubbing off on you.
That's good to know.
I'm like, oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Yeah, I know.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
But I mean, it's stuff like that with him.
And then, you know, the otherday we had a, we had a
communication issue with somebuilding usage and I was talking
to one of our other teammembers and explain to them.
I'm like, hey, like how didthis?
Like we need to figure out aprocess.
You know, their thing is likehey, we don't need to do that
now, we we need to do, we can doit later.
(23:08):
Like we're already here, weneed to fix what's happening now
.
I was like you're right, but weall I'm also going to ask these
questions because I know thisis what Brady would ask and he
was like, yeah, he was like I'dwant to know how did we get from
A to like F?
Like how did we get to thispoint where we didn't
communicate things or peoplearen't aware of what's going on?
So I think that's beenimpactful to from I don't want
(23:32):
to necessarily say leadership,even though he does.
He's a fantastic leader.
I tell him he needs to have hisown podcasts all the time.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
We might get him here sometime.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
He's got a podcast for it.
He makes fun of me for thispodcast, Like he's not going to
do it Every day.
Before we started meeting, hewas like Brady, here's your
official invite.
He's guaranteed he's notlistening.
But like, did you not?
He's like hey, you're workingon church stuff today, you're
working on podcast stuff today.
Are you working on my stuff?
I'm like he does it every timebefore we meet, but I think him
(23:59):
is his.
His is a critical thinking isprobably the best way I put it.
I feel like he, leo and I werejoking about this today when we
were talking about some thingsthat we needed to do.
What we do for him is like youknow, that's not what Brady's
going to say, right, like he'sgoing to say this, this and this
.
It's just a critical thinkingpart.
I think it's he's done.
(24:19):
It's just been impactful.
You, like I said, not reallynecessarily leading people or
other things, just changing howI respond and what I think or
how I'm going to develop athought process about a
situation or how to fixsomething.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Well so so here's the thing, what we've to our
listeners.
We've just been talking aboutpositive impact, right?
So I want to shift gears just atouch.
Talk about a situation.
Don't name the person's name,obviously, but maybe something
that's had a negative impact onyou and what you did to correct
(24:56):
it.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Okay, I'll tell you a funny one before I tell you.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Yeah, heck yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
So today I had lunch with a contact on mom.
I had lunch with my mom and wegot back, we pulled in and I'm
going to say names because Idon't care if it's just someone.
Tell her that we talked abouther, kj, we pulled in.
We pulled in from lunch.
We went down to Smiley Brothersand came back and pulled in
from lunch and KJ.
And then we're coming back fromlunch and they were in the
drive little pool, like pullinginto our office, and I pulled
(25:21):
her and KJ.
I was like can y'all move?
Y'all blocking everybody?
And she was like oh my gosh, isthat your mother?
I need to meet her, which ourlisteners we call KJ, mama K.
Oh yeah, she's like the mom ofthe office.
Well, here's the funny part.
This is the negative impact.
Okay, all right, I start to sitthere and I tell my mom I was
like she's talking, like KJ'sbeing on, that she's like you
have such a good boy, like he'slike.
(25:42):
I'm like okay, thank you, doyou want me to leave so you can
tell my mom what you reallythink?
So I was like don't listen toher mom, she has me trained.
And she was like what do youmean?
They're both like what do youmean?
Has me trained?
I said today I'm sitting in myoffice and I sit.
I can't see KJ's office, butshe's kind of adjacent to where
mine is and she goes Adam West,and I'm like, yes, ma'am, she
(26:06):
didn't answer, just silent.
And I'm like KJ, she didn'tanswer and I thought I got up
and I walked into her office andshe's sitting there and she's
like, hey, I have a questionabout this.
It was when we were emailingyou guys today.
So she had a question about itand I was like so yeah, I
answered it.
I started to walk back to mydesk.
(26:27):
Benji, I had an epiphany or amoment that I realized this
woman has me trained.
She doesn't even say anythingto the point or doesn't come to
my office.
She knows.
Oh yeah, if she just says myname, you're going, I'll get up.
It hit me on the way back.
I'm like, oh my gosh, so thislike literally, and I said I
(26:50):
started thinking back and forth.
I was like this happened theother day.
The other day she was in heroffice talking to Kathy.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
We call that deja vu sometimes, Adam oh my gosh,
benji.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
She goes.
Man, I need to go get thatwater out of my car and I was
like I'll get it for you, mom.
Ok, she's got me trained Likeit's ridiculous negative impact.
That's great, I'm gonna tellher.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
So I have one.
There was a gentleman I'm notgonna mention their name that
years ago we used to work for usand he had a negative.
Everything he did was negative.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
I would tell you that would be, that would be.
I'll have one after you, butthat would be mine as well.
I feel like negativity.
That's a whole other podcast,but negativity.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
This gentleman, everything you did, he was
negative.
It didn't matter if you toldhim he looked great today.
He was gonna be mad.
He was gonna.
He didn't care what thesituation was, he was negative
about everything.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
But I will tell you, negativity breeds it.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
He was probably then the reason, I believe, my dad
kept him around for so long ishe was the most loyal person
ever probably that has everworked for SurfProbe in our
organization ever.
I mean, this guy was there atsix in the morning until 10, 11
at night.
Now that doesn't mean someone'sloyal.
(28:15):
Let me set the record straight.
The reason why he was there forso long is because between nine
and four he was in your office,my office.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
I was gonna say bad time management, I bet.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
It was very bad time management, but I remember there
was many employees that wereimpacted by this gentleman.
That was just so negative andwe had many people leave so we
had to make a decision.
One day we were like what arewe gonna do with this?
How are we gonna handle thesituation?
We end up having to make thesituation right.
But my point is you can havepeople that have a very good
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positive impact on your life but, just as important, you can
have someone that's got a verynegative impact and that can be
very harmful, creates poisonthroughout your company and
causes culture.
We talked about culturecomparison a few episodes ago,
and if you're trying to compareyour people to others in culture
, make sure it's positive,definitely not negative.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
I probably won't name any names.
I know you didn't really dothat.
I won't name any names of mine,but that has to be.
We went through some changesjust in some of our friends
group and things like that, someof the guys that I work out
with.
There's been just somenegativity with guys that I used
(29:36):
to work out with and do stuffand that was always a tough
thing.
I mean, it was tough because hehad a lot that was going on in
his life, a lot that was goingon in my family.
But man it was just it was hardbecause they had a lot of times
where they might complain aboutsomething at work or things that
was going on with family.
And you wanna have a safe space, like that's the thing, like
(29:57):
that's a big thing about it Withany group that you're with,
like you wanna be able to havesome guys I mean, I joke with
you all the time that I wishsometimes you and Eric would
just be negative and not bepositive positive about
everything.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
But Probably not gonna have, probably not gonna
have?
Speaker 1 (30:10):
No, probably not.
But I think there's adifference.
Like I have moments where I'mjust like frustrated and that's
where negativity comes from.
It's not like I'm just negativeto be negative, but I just felt
myself after those days ofworking out or whatever it was,
like we different groups.
I would just feel frustratedfor no reason, but I think I was
(30:33):
frustrated as I think moreabout it.
Well, if I'm constantly aroundfrustration, I'm gonna start
finding things to be frustratedabout and feel it robs off on
you it does, and we've talkedabout this even on our own team
at the church and on our ownteam with our, our Serb Pro team
.
You have those people thatyou're like, hey, things aren't
(30:54):
always gonna go right.
Okay, Fact of the matter,nothing's ever gonna go right,
and this is what I keep tellingpeople.
Well, always control what youcan control, because if you keep
trying to control things youcan't, to me that's the
definition of an insanity whicheverybody knows the definition
of insanity is doing the samething over and over and
expecting different results.
Yeah, sometimes being negativeis that's what it reminds me of
(31:15):
is you're just constantly being.
You're just you're hoping thatif I continue being negative,
it'll fix itself.
Yeah, and it's not gonna fixitself.
So I think that's the thingthat you can have, because I
think, I almost think sometimesand I hate saying it this way,
but a negative impact can almosthave more of an impact on your
(31:36):
life than positive, if you allowit to.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Absolutely, if that makes sense.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
If that makes sense what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
No, it totally does, cause I mean you think about it,
you start.
I mean, even the Bible says youknow, a fool speaks out of his
mouth, and I'm paraphrasing theverse.
But basically this is the BNGversion.
Yeah, basically, I mean thinkabout it.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
You Aricism.
And then, what Pastor Rickcalls it, he calls it, he calls
it Aricism.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
I mean, you say it out loud our words are very
powerful, yep, our thoughts arevery powerful, because the enemy
wants to come, still, kill anddestroy, and what he does is he
can use the words against you,you know, to use it as a
disadvantage.
So if you're being negative andyou start to let's say this,
(32:22):
your gossiping right, yourgossiping about this, this, this
and this.
Well, what happens is you end upin the circle and then you
start gossiping, gossiping,gossiping, whatever the case is,
and you start being comingapart of it, and then it just
becomes like fuel.
Man, it's just, you know flowright off.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Well, it becomes.
That's the only way some, likeyou know, I've thought about it
Like, if it continues, sometimesthat's the only way you have a
relationship with anybody, right?
Like that's the only way thatyou have a relationship with
somebody is through beingnegative.
Yeah, speaking of negativity,this isn't negative, but my
daughters hold my hand right now.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
Oh nice, this is the same.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Sorry for our listeners, that's positive,
that's positive, that's positive, that's very positive.
The same as last week, but it'syou know it's at the end of the
day, man.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
And, by the way, sarah hates when I say at the
end of the day.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
She says I say that for everything.
At the end of the day, this isthe impact you have, because I
say it all the time.
If you, if you were it'snormally how I let you know I'm
ending a statement.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Yeah, if you, if you do that all the time and you end
up listening to negative andcontinue to feed off of it, what
happens is you turn into whatyou hear, what you see, you know
, so you got to be very careful.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
And it's important to mention as well that it fuels
those relationships Like, forinstance, I've had relationships
with people where all we do ishave a complaint session and I
start to realize well, this isthe only thing we have in common
yeah, and if we're notcomplaining, what's there to
talk about?
Yeah, for sure.
So what I mean is you have tobe careful, because your whole
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relationship can develop fromthat.
So that I mean you, you, youwant to have a positive impact
on people will end up happeningif the two of you get together
and you're just like, oh, Idon't like when this person does
this and this person does thatand I don't understand why we
can't be like this or we can'tbe this way.
That ends up being your entirerelationship.
So then your negativenegativity is a cancer.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
It is definitely.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
It's a cancer because it and it spreads.
Because when you start, Ialways tell people negativity
breeds negativity.
So it does, it doesn't.
It's the same thing forpositive.
Positivity breeds positivity,you know.
And so those things go hand inhand.
And I think sometimes you haveto look at that, because if you
are trying to have an impactfulrelationship with someone, or
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trying to mentor them, as wetalked about, or just trying to
have a relationship with someone, if it's entirely built off the
two of you having a complainsession I'm trying to be as
general as possible just havinga complaint session, that's in
just all your relationshipsbuilt up.
So what is coming out of thatrelationship?
(34:57):
Like, how are the two of youthat you're supposed to help
each other, you're supposed tohelp each other, grow?
This is a big thing that mybuddy Powers not talk about all
the time.
Is that just not allowingourselves to get into that place
of negativity Right?
And I mean, yes, we havemoments where we're stressed,
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but we have those, but we'retrying not to get into those
moments.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
You know you think about that.
It's true.
I mean, no one ever wants to bein that situation.
Sometimes they get suckered inbecause it is, you know, for
whatever reason they getsuckered into the conversation.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
You know they're just it just drags you down.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
I mean ultimately, there's a song out that Tim
McGraw's done.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Not gonna sing, it are you.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
No, I'm not gonna sing it.
No, I would, but I'm not.
But it's called Standing RoomOnly and you can get the idea by
the title of song.
Basically, this person haslived their life and the last
couple lines of the chorus saysI wanna live a life so that when
I die, there is standing roomonly, standing room only.
(36:02):
And the point of the song iseverything that we do is going
to impact people, positive ornegative, and what I wanna have
for my life one day is when thattime comes for me.
We've talked about that dashbefore.
You know, on the gravestone youhave two dates on it.
Yeah, you got the beginning andthen you got the dash.
(36:24):
And then whenever that timecomes is the end.
What did we do with the dash?
Well, the dash.
I want to make a positiveimpact on people.
That's why I don't, I do notassociate myself with negative
talk.
I try not to.
Anyway, I shouldn't say I don't, I try my best not to.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
You're very good at that.
I will say you are ridiculouslygood at removing yourself from
it.
And even like, even like whenwe, joking jokingly, get
together and like you know, mywife and your wife are all
talking about stuff, you're justkind of like.
You're like, okay, I'm like.
Well, like did you hear the T?
Like did you hear the drama?
Like you're like gossiping,like we probably shouldn't, but
(37:02):
you're very you're always beengood about keeping like, just
being emotionally disconnectedfrom it, like yeah, yeah, I just
I try to because, and not withyou guys, but it's just you want
to be very careful because-.
You're just, you're unbothered,I guess, is what I'm trying to
say.
Correct, unbothered with it.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
I want to impact people in such a way that when
they, when my time comes, it'slike my father when he passed.
He had such an impact on peoplefrom a positivity standpoint,
an encouraging standpoint, amotivational standpoint, a
leadership standpoint, abusiness owner standpoint, an
entrepreneur.
You know well, whatever.
(37:40):
Yeah, that I want people toremember the impact that I had
on my life.
Yeah, I want my family to beable to say man, my husband, my
dad, he did things the best ofhis ability, he controlled what
he could, and I want them toremember me for that reason.
Now, no sob story, honey, don'tworry about it.
(38:02):
Nothing's gonna happen to meanytime soon, so don't worry
about that.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
But you know, hey basically you want to do to me?
You're saying that like youjust want to make sure when you
leave you feel like you hadsomething that you did, like
there's you don't want to justhave lived and you know and
moved on, like you want to beable to leave something behind
that other people can learn fromor grow from or you know just
(38:30):
better themselves.
Speaker 2 (38:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
Have a better lifestyle or just a better
individual, better character,better traits.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
I mean you can go on.
I mean, ultimately, I wantpeople to know that I am a
Christian and when I pass I havegone to heaven and hopefully it
can impact them in such a waythat they see Jesus through the
process, whether they know himor don't know him.
But if they don't know him,they can come to know him.
And that's ultimately what it'sall about.
And that's why I try to livethat life, so that, hey, maybe
(38:59):
there is standing room.
Only one day we'll see.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
Yeah, I had when my dad retired.
I always, it always sticks tomy mind, but when they did his
retirement ceremony they justtalked about I mean he did 43
years in the Air Force and youknow Full Bird Colonel.
I mean he just all that, youknow when he retired.
So I mean very big shoes leftfor me to fill.
(39:22):
You know, I'm like I filmedstuff with a camera.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
No, we got a lot of life ahead, though.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
We did a lot of life ahead of us.
So but I, you know, I talk, Italk here's.
Somebody said one time thatduring his time in the Air Force
, you know, he left a legacythat could fill 10 chapels, you
know, and I'm like that's a, Imean that's a lot of people that
you know.
You think about what he did,and I mean not just that, I mean
(39:51):
he served, you know, I mean hewas in Afghanistan.
He, you know he did a yearthere which was the ID ward.
That's a whole otherconversation that you know led
to a lot of his PTSD that hedeals with.
But there's a lot of things thathe did and I just always, that
always just stuck out to me thathe left a legacy that someone
(40:12):
to say the people that heaffected, could fill up to 10
chapels.
And the chapels on the militarybases typically are very large,
you know, because they're usedfor so many different
denominations.
So it was just always impactfulto hear somebody say that like,
hey, there's a lot of peoplethat you served and that you
(40:32):
provided service to that neededit, because being in the
military or being in militaryfamilies not an easy process.
So I just always thought it'salways, I'm always hung out to
him, like that's a really coolway to put it.
Speaker 2 (40:43):
That I've done.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
how, like, how many people could truly say you know
you impacted them?
I mean, and I'd be happy withthis.
I tell people all the time,like even I joke about with
social media, like people arelike oh man, I've got like 40,
50,000 likes.
I'm like man, I'm happy withlike 20.
If like 20 or 30 people like apicture I post or a video to me,
(41:07):
that's impactful, Cause I thinkin my mind I'm like what if
those 20 or 30 people or 15people were in a room watching
me with what I do?
I mean that's intimidating.
Yeah, yeah, to think about likepeople look at that, like oh
man, you only got like 15 likesor 20 likes.
You know, think about theimpact that you have on people
(41:27):
even from that like that's big.
I mean you put all those peoplein a room.
That's a lot of people in aroom, it's.
That's a lot, that's a lot.
I just there's a lot that goeswith it, but I think that's
always been something that'sstuck in my head.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
Yeah, I mean think about this.
We, as you know, we're Disneyfans Actually, Sarah's more of a
Disney fan than I am, but we,we, we'll be going to Disney
here in a few weeks again andthink about the impact that
Disney makes on people.
Right, they take your moneythey take.
They take your money, Gladlytake your money to give you an
(42:03):
experience, Everything that you.
It doesn't matter if you're ona bus.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
It's the only way they're making money.
Right now, benji, they'relosing it in all their movies.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
I agree.
But hey, they do it right.
They want your familyexperience.
When you get on the bus, whenyou get to a resort, when you
get to the parks, whatever thecase is, if you get on the train
, they're gonna make you thinkit's the best train ride and all
the thing does go around thepark.
I mean, it's that simple, theimpact that they leave on your
(42:31):
children, on us.
They make the customer serviceexperience so good that it makes
you wanna go back and give themmore money and it's like you
know.
Think of the impact that oneguy's vision had many, many,
many years ago with a mouse.
That has turned into a hugething, not just Disney World,
(42:54):
but Disneyland.
You got other places across theworld that they have it and
it's like Think about the impactlike Apple's made.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
Think about how many different Apple products you
bought in your life.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
Oh yeah, and here's think about this.
That's a great point.
Think about this how many timeshave you replaced your iPhone?
I mean without breaking it?
Speaker 1 (43:09):
how many times have you upgraded your iPhone?
Honestly, the only thing I dois upgrade it because I keep
coming out.
We're going to tell you I don'tthink I've ever had an iPhone
die on me.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
Yeah, I bet.
I have five.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
I will say this watch right here is starting to get
to the end of its cycle.
When I keep joking my wifeabout updating it because it's
starting to lose its battery,that's what I'm saying, but I've
also had it for like five years, I'm convinced.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
just for the listeners, I'm just saying I am
a big Apple fan.
Speaker 1 (43:33):
Everything I have is Apple.
I am convinced that theydownstream everything, but I
will tell you.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
I think that they do that on purpose, where they make
the life cycle your devices goout so you have to upgrade.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
Well, it's probably because their products are so
well made.
They're like oh dang, we killedourselves when you down cycle
this thing, so they buysomething new.
Speaker 2 (43:48):
Apple's gotten so bad with me that I watched their
stupid keynote sessions.
When they come out in Septemberand April, we're thinking about
this.
Speaker 1 (43:56):
I mean, we're just talking about that for a second,
but just think about howthey're one of the few companies
that make things that arelasting.
I mean, think about, like whenI'm my grandparents I swear to
you, benji, I think my mom's dadprobably had the same fridge he
had like before I was born.
Yeah, like them suckers.
Them suckers were made tosurvive.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
Oh, absolutely.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (44:20):
So I think about that and I think about just what
they were.
So Apple's probably doing thesame thing.
I really do think that theyrealized that they were like
y'all, mistakes were made, wemade a good of a product.
Speaker 2 (44:30):
So I'll give you a funny about Apple.
In 1995, I think it was I was asophomore in high school and we
had to do a.
I was in one of my historyclasses, or economics or
something I think it waseconomics class actually and we
had to do an analysis on stocksand my stock that I chose I'm
not lying was Apple.
I am kicking myself because, bythe way, I failed economics in
(44:53):
college three times.
Speaker 1 (44:55):
Yeah, you have such a large company.
Speaker 2 (44:57):
If I would have known what I know about Apple today,
in 1997, when I graduated highschool, I should have bought
stock in Apple.
I'd be a millionaire, like quadbillionaire.
Whatever, those guys have doneit right.
Speaker 1 (45:10):
They have done it right.
We also know that I was jokingwith Leo about what I do for my
job.
I told him I was reading my QBRto him my queen B role, like
what my role is and I was like,yeah, I was like I joked with
Brady that I feel like I'm justa data miner.
He was like can you mind somelike Bitcoins while you're at it
?
Speaker 2 (45:27):
Like I don't even understand what that means.
Here's a real question When'sthe last time you had a Windows
device or an Android?
Have you ever had an Android?
Speaker 1 (45:34):
Oh man, like I make fun of people that use the
Androids.
Like do you know there's legitand I don't have anything to.
I'm throwing this out thereLike I have no case studies to
go with this, but do you knowthey actually say that there is
a negative syndrome that you'relooked down upon if you have the
green bubble Really In a textgroup, like they're not like?
Speaker 2 (45:58):
I don't remember where it was.
I do hate that.
It's annoying.
It's annoying to me that I textsomeone that gets a green.
Speaker 1 (46:01):
But that's right there, what you're talking about
.
Apple has such a large impactthat they say that with kids
today and I keep saying they.
I promise you.
I heard this report on the news.
I just want to please don'tquote me.
I'm sorry, we don't have aproducer.
They can go up and look thingsup and say up Hear me now.
Stop, stop.
I have no one to facts, checkme before I say it Like big
(46:22):
podcast do, but it was somethingthey had on the news and they
were talking about that.
Kids today feel less aboutthemselves if they don't have
like an eye message and you'reconsidered you're in a green
bubble.
Speaker 2 (46:36):
Like I'm like that's just crazy.
Yeah, that is crazy.
But again.
Speaker 1 (46:42):
That's the impact of having something like that,
because I understand they are.
They're a more expensive device.
They've done a lot to try andadjust that.
But the problem is we had thisconversation today.
We were talking with someoneabout car wraps and we're having
trouble with when we need toget the cheapest price.
And I told him I was like guys,at the end of the day, I just
(47:02):
want you all to remember we needto look at X, y and Z for who
we get our car wraps done for.
But I said, always take thisinto consideration.
I was like I'm just throwingthis out there that cheap work
typically isn't on par with whatyou consider is good work.
I tell people all the time andI heard this is a Nick Gooder
quote and he may have gotten itfrom somewhere else I just this
is where I heard it from himthat cheap work isn't good and
(47:23):
good work isn't cheap.
That's true.
That's true.
I had a conversation withsomeone the other day that said
one of the things I'm doing withmyself right now, like this
weekend I have one of my firstfilming projects for someone
that is a paying project and Imean it's a good little chunk
that I'm able to pull from itand the number I threw out there
(47:45):
probably seems high.
But what I've always toldpeople be a hustler, throw a
number, what you feel likeyou're worth, put your number
out there.
If they accept it, then theyfeel that you're worth that.
If they don't wait untilsomeone else will, somebody will
see that you have value andworth and they will pay you what
(48:07):
you feel like you're worth.
Don't try to downsize yourselffrom it.
But anyways, that's a wholeanother podcast.
Yeah, no, it is, I feel likewe've said that we need to just
start jotting these down,because I feel like we said it
so much during the show.
Speaker 2 (48:17):
I started this by asking you about Windows,
because we actually have aWindows device at our church for
our lighting console.
We run the Grand MA3.
Oh, yes, and that Windowsdevice drives me crazy, but it
works.
Speaker 1 (48:29):
It does work, I do.
I make fun of I hope if shelistens but Jennifer's HR
department.
She is a Windows person.
She doesn't want anything else,so she has a Windows, but they
need it for some, which is funnytoo, because some of the things
we use for mitigation requireWindows but luckily we can do
them from our Apple devicesthrough different systems we can
(48:51):
run.
But I haven't given her a hardtime.
I make fun of her every time Iwalk in and she's like, well, I
can't figure this out.
I'm like, well, maybe if youdidn't have that crappy Windows
device, you could make it easier.
That's right.
Speaker 2 (49:00):
Well, see, Apple's done it right to your point, the
impact they've made.
If you have an iPhone, youprobably won't, or have an iPad,
or you have a Mac at your houseor a MacBook Pro to be on the
go.
So you got four devices, allbecause you want to be on the
cloud and everything syncs upseamless.
Speaker 1 (49:16):
Yes, well, it's funny because I hate Windows and
Microsoft so much, but sittingright over here is my baby, my
Xbox One.
So I mean which is funny,because I don't like PlayStation
, but yet I'm a Sony fanboy whenit comes to cameras, Like I'm
just all screwed up.
That's pretty funny.
So I mean, like I don't want aPlayStation, but I want them for
the.
You know, it's just all.
(49:36):
So I mean, it's all impactful.
Speaker 2 (49:38):
Before our listeners as we wrap this show up.
I mean, ask yourself thisquestion Not only, who is the
person, Ben, that has impactedyour life the most Reach out to
him, thank him but what kind ofimpact can you leave on someone
else?
We did kind of discuss this inour mentoring segment, but it
really goes into you know, whatdo you want to do when you pass
(50:03):
from this earth one day?
What do you want to be knownfor, what do you want to be
remembered for, and what kind ofimpact can you leave for other
people?
And, at the end of the day,like Adam was talking about, to
be positive with people, becausethe better positive that you
can be will only help them.
Maybe you're getting them outof a negative situation,
negative conversation, and beingpositive changes everything.
(50:26):
So I want to just encourage youguys.
Leave a positive impact onpeople.
Leave an impact.
Speaker 1 (50:31):
Well, hey, we hope you guys have a great week.
We've enjoyed hanging out withyou, but, as we say every single
time, go and live a higher uplife.
We'll see you guys next time.
Hey, benji and I want to take amoment and just thank you for
listening to the higher uppodcast.
We really hope you enjoyedtoday's episode.
It just learned some valuableinsights to help improve your
own life.
Hey, if you found today'sepisode helpful, we would be
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Either way, when you leave us areview, you're helping us grow
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