September 1, 2025 • 36 mins
Are you leading your business or just reacting to problems as they arise? In this episode, we explore the power of quarterly rhythms, a system that helps leaders stay focused, avoid burnout, and build sustainable momentum.
We discuss why rhythms matter, how seasons in life and business provide a model to follow, and the practical steps to align your team around clear priorities. You’ll learn how quarterly planning and intentional pauses create space for focus, accountability, and long-term growth.
If you’ve ever felt stuck in constant reaction mode, this episode will show you how to lead with clarity, set the right priorities, and establish rhythms that keep your business moving forward.
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
all right, well, boys , welcome in.
We're back.
Episode 32, season 3, episode 7it's a lot of numbers episode
seven.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
It's a lot of numbers , too many.
Wait what you said.
Season two, three, threeepisode episode seven.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
But technically this is our 32nd total episode, benji
benji, before we startedrecording benji was like we're
like episode 15.
I'm like, yeah, we're.
No, we're moving that way we.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
It seems like we're only on 15, but we've got a lot
going out there.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
So hey, it is, it is we're doing.
Well, I mean, we're killing it.
Just so you guys know, weclipped the 9,000 download mark.
We are less than 900 downloadsaway from the big 10,000.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
That's awesome.
Downloads away from the big10,000.
That's awesome.
And just I know we've had a lotof new listeners that have come
on to listen to the show.
We've had a lot of peoplewatching on YouTube.
We're out there on all thechannels.
So thank you so much for justtuning in and thank you for your
feedback.
We've had some people commentin.
Just thank you so much forlistening to us and whatever we
can do to help you and yourbusiness.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
That's what we're here for listening to us and
whatever we can do to help youand your business.
That's what we're here for.
Yeah, hey and Brady, just soyou know.
Yeah, episode 15 almost hasdouble the amount of listens as
the episode right behind it.
That is our top listen toepisode.
It's the abundancy overscarcity.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
All right, that's why we hired Brady to be on the
show with us.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Yes, so, the next one is When's that paycheck coming,
because I've not seen anythingyet.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Brady, we started monetizing a long time ago, and
that goes into Adam's bankaccount.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Oh, I don't know about that.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
I don't know about that one.
We're here for Adam.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
I don't know about that one.
It's supposed to be.
Giving us a discount on ourBuzzsprout is apparently what
it's supposed to be.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Yeah, listeners.
By the way, that is 100%, joe.
We do not monetize this, no, wedon't, but look if there's
anybody listening.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Starbucks, chick-fil-a, any of that stuff
I'll eat a sandwich while we'rerecording.
Whatever you, need.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
If you pay us to eat a sandwich, we will record it
and show it on our show so youcan know that we did.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
I will say this, though, on a serious note.
I mean not that you guysweren't being serious, but in
addition to the podcast, followus on LinkedIn too.
I know each of us are postingout stuff from time to time, and
there's some good stuff onthere too that may go into a
little bit more expanded versionof some of the things that
we're talking about on here, soif you're a reader instead of a
(02:47):
listener, then that might cangive you some different insight
into some certain things.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Yeah for sure, yes, yeah, we do.
We keep that going.
We stay consistent.
Last week was a crazy week.
We have five nights of prayer.
I was sharing with Benji.
That was the first time I'veever been a part of that at our
church and it was a differentexperience.
A good experience, yeah forsure.
Much different than anythingI've ever—I've never actually
done that consistently five daysin a row, like a 10-something,
like that.
(03:12):
I've never gone to a 21 days ofprayer service or anything like
that.
So it was a long week, but itwas a good week.
That's awesome, yeah, well.
So I'm excited.
Jumping in today this is a topic, brady, that you were sharing
with us and not to be confusedwith work-life and work and then
life balance.
(03:33):
But what we're looking at islooking to find that rhythm.
You told me.
You said hey, adam, that's thekey word we're looking at today
is finding that quarterly rhythmin your life that you're doing.
So talk a little bit, jump intothat.
You were sharing some things,some awesome insights to what
this is.
I think this is a perfectepisode for anyone that might
(03:54):
feel like they're out, I cantell you, last week that's where
I felt like we were workingeight to eight every day, five
days a week.
It's been busy.
This entire month of August hasbeen busy, so I'm excited to
kind of dive in and hear whaty'all have to say, to figure out
how do I get back into that,because for me I feel like I'm
off right now.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
So yeah, Well, hey, you know what, Adam?
We will do this episode justfor you, buddy.
Hopefully this will help youout.
So, yeah, I think the thingthat we're talking through you
know we had I think it was acouple episodes ago.
We were talking about halftimeand really halfway through the
year you're in the locker room,those types of things.
This is in the same vein asthat, but more of how do we get
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into a rhythm in life and inbusiness.
We'll probably talk primarilymore about business, because
that's kind of the world that welive in, but these principles
can live in your normal life too.
I think it's one of my favoritequotes and I've probably said
this on here I sound like abroken record sometimes, but Zig
(04:57):
Ziglar said if you aim atnothing, you hit it every time.
When we're talking about goalsor targets or certain things, I
think this is in that samesphere as well is, if you just
look out into your life or intoyour business and man we've
talked about here on the showthat I'm a I'm a huge planner.
(05:18):
I love organization, I lovetask lists, I love all those,
anything that goes along with it.
I'm the type of guy that I ifif there's something not on my
task list, but I do the, I dothe task.
I will go back and add it tothe task list and check it off.
(05:39):
You know, I'm that type ofperson, brady.
I will say this, though, thatuh, I'm that type of person,
brady.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
I will say this, though, that I think the older
we get, the shorter the yearseems to get.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Well, yeah that's very true.
Like man I heard Emily theother day I can't believe
Addie's a year from going intolike sixth grade.
Oh yeah, and I'm just, I wantit.
I want that time back.
Yeah, yeah, yeah for sure.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
So we're talking about rhythm.
It's.
You know, Benji and I are arevery musical, you know, we're
both worship leaders at ourchurch and so this is this kind
of resonates with us to somedegree, because when you, when
you have a song that is out ofrhythm, just think about like
you're listening to something.
You're listening to a song,there's words that are being
sung, but there's no beat.
Yeah, there's no rhythm to it.
(06:26):
Something just seems off, right, Because there's no structure.
There's no, you know, it's justthe rhythm.
So when we're talking aboutrhythm, we're really talking
about in business, you know.
So things feel off.
Adam, you said that things kindof feel off or chaotic right
now.
So how can we step into arhythm to help us get back into
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what we're trying to accomplish?
So when we think about a rhythm, like a quarterly type rhythm
is, you've probably got like astrategic planning session that
you've done sometime in, like Q4, right.
So you're setting prioritiesfor the year, but then each
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quarter is going back and we'llget in dive in some of the
details, but each quarter, uh,you're reevaluating what those
priorities were and are theystill on track.
So Q1, you're looking back, orhow are we doing Q2 is really
that halftime, but that's whenwe get into a rhythm of every
single quarter or every singlemonth, or every single week,
whatever that looks like.
So when we get out of rhythm,what we start to see and I see a
(07:37):
lot of this in leaders and inbusiness and even personal is
what are some of the symptomsthat happen when we get out of
rhythm?
Those symptoms are we start todrift, Okay, which means we have
unclear priorities.
You know, maybe we're chasingdistractions instead of chasing
what.
What it is that we should beworking on.
This next one I see a lot isburnout.
(07:58):
So when you don't have cleardirection, when you don't have a
clear target, then burnout is avery real thing and that's when
you want to reset.
But then, when you also get outof rhythm, then we talk about
being proactive versus reactive.
(08:18):
Reactivity is a symptom of notbeing in rhythm, and so when we
get out of rhythm, these are thesymptoms.
I don't know if we've evertalked about Stephen Covey on
the show before, but I love whathe says.
He says that you know, the keyis not to prioritize what's on
your schedule, okay, but toschedule your priorities.
(08:41):
So think about that a minute.
Why don't y'all just give mesome reaction to that?
The key is not to prioritizewhat's on your schedule, but to
schedule your priorities, andyou know go ahead.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Benji and I was going to say for me, I think it goes
back to what we were talkingabout with the reactive versus
proactive approach.
You know a lot of leaders we'veseen this Brady in the line of
business that we're in Otherfranchisees we have friends that
are running other businesses.
They're always saying, man, Ican't figure out how to get to
that place or how do I get tothat goal, and they're always
(09:15):
behind the eight ball versustrying to be out in front of the
eight ball.
And that goes to what you justsaid.
You know how do we schedule?
We have to have a cadence.
We owe it to ourselves to havea calendar, have a task list so
that we can plan properly andalways be looking ahead Doesn't
mean you can't be.
You're going to have to bereactive.
(09:35):
Sometimes, let's be honest,things come our way, mostly
proactive in our approach.
Then our priorities are notwhat's.
You know.
We're always trying to schedulethose priorities versus trying
to react to how we can figurewhat those priorities should be.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Yeah, I think it goes back to where is my energy best
delivered for today.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
And I think that's finding those.
That's what I love about.
That is okay.
I have so many hours in a day.
What are the things that I needto prioritize, that need to get
my energy right?
Like, what do I need to work onnow?
That's something we're workingthrough as well.
Like we're moving from a momand pop church to a corporate
(10:20):
church church to a corporatechurch.
You know, like, hey, pastorJeremy said yesterday, you got
to stop just knocking on doors.
You got to stop knocking ondoors.
We've got to send peoplemessages, go through a system,
because people have otherpriorities and you don't realize
even something.
You may need help with somethingfor five, 10, 15 minutes.
(10:40):
Like, hey, can you help me withthat?
How are you changing yourverbiage right?
So, when you go to someone, hey, can you help me with that?
How are you changing yourverbiage right?
So, when you go to someone, hey, do you have the capacity for
this?
Can you help me with this rightnow?
And then be okay with it and belike I don't, I don't have the
capacity, I can't help you withit right now.
But that is something we talkedabout too.
It's not just on the ASCII,it's on the ask to be okay with
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those things I have toprioritize.
Hey, I don't have the energyfor this right now.
I know it could probably take10 minutes, but man, I'm in the
middle of something right now.
If I stop I'm going to losemomentum.
So I think that's somethingthat's important for anyone.
Right now.
Is one be okay to say no andfigure out where do I really
need to put my energy is bestsuited today.
(11:27):
Is this something I can dotomorrow?
Is this something I can dolater in the day?
Is this something where we canschedule to sit down together?
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Yeah, Where's that energy going?
And, Brady, this just triggereda point too, because this is
this is great about schedulingpriorities.
I'm mentoring a gentleman atthe office and we were talking
about you know how do youactually run your schedule?
And the way he runs hisschedule is whatever happens
through the day, he just reactsto it.
And that he told me that.
He said I want to get better, Iwant to, and so what we figured
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out was in our line of work.
You know, there are, there arepeople out there that may be
listening, that are a Pepsidrivers.
They got to go drop off Pepsisto this store and that store and
that they're just restock RightIn our line of business is the
same concept.
We go see a number of centersof influence throughout the day
and then what he was doing ishe's waiting till the end of the
day to remember who he talkedto, what he talked about and
(12:21):
documenting that accordingly.
And I said what if you couldjust take 30 seconds when you
finish a stop, 30 seconds anddocument that visit?
What we've just done is pickedyou up an extra 45 minutes a day
because you're being proactive,You're not being reactive.
That's a real life situationscheduling your priorities, yeah
(12:42):
.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Yeah, yeah, no, I think that's so good.
And, adam, when you were sayingabout, you know, saying no to
stuff, you know the reality iswhen you say yes to something,
that means you're saying no tosomething else, absolutely, you
know, so that's good.
You were also talking about, uh, there's only 24 hours in a day
.
I remember talking to somebodyI won't name any names but
they're like no, I get 25 hoursin a day and I'm like okay, how
(13:05):
do you do that?
He said well, I drink fivefive-hour energy drinks every
day.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
I'm like His heart's going to explode.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
I don't think that's the key.
Hope he doesn't hit coffee withit.
Well, yeah, so kind of gettingback to rhythm is, let's look at
it from a biblical standpoint.
Okay, god actually made this apart of his design and he
doesn't call it a quarters, hecalls it seasons.
And you know we were kind oftalking about this pre-show.
But you've got winter, spring,summer and fall, and so why
(13:38):
didn't God just, you know,create the earth?
And then we've got one season,you know that kind earth, and
then we've got one one season.
You know that that kind ofrules them all.
So I think he wanted us to bein somewhat of a rhythm of, okay
, let's.
So.
For me, the way I think about itis okay, yeah, we've got
priorities for the year, but myfirst sprint, you know I've I've
never run a marathon.
(13:59):
I know, I know Sarah has beenyou, but and maybe she does this
, but you're looking atmilestones along the way If I
can just get to that point, thenI know where I'm at, and then,
beyond that, I got to the nextpoint.
So that's why I think about theyear Okay, let's get to Q1.
Let's get to the end of Q1, andthen let's reset, and then
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let's get to the end of Q2.
So now I've got shortermilestones or shorter targets,
and that's what this is.
And really, this is not a.
When we talk about rhythm, we'renot saying it's like a
productivity hack.
Okay, the kids say life hack.
This is not a life hack, allright, but it's really an
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alignment.
What we're trying to do isalign ourself with the way that
God has designed us to work, youknow, because work is good.
That's what we were created todo is to worship and to work.
And so when we think aboutseasons and rhythms, that's what
we're looking at from abiblical perspective.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
You know, if you think about that too, I mean
that's, that's really good, youthink about that, it really
makes sense to stay to keep ifyou keep yourself in rhythm.
It's just like you said earlier.
I got a buddy of mine who has aum, a pacemaker in his heart
and you can hear.
You can hear that thing beatingsometimes and man, it is so
loud Like if he's to your point,if he's singing on stage, he
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has to hold his mic a certainway because you can actually
hear the beating of thatpacemaker and sometimes that
thing gets out of rhythm andyou're like what he goes, what
just happened?
So that that's so good that ifwe challenge ourselves to stay
in rhythm, I believe we can be alot more productive.
We can get more things done.
(15:43):
We stay aligned with what Goddesigned in the different
seasons in life and differentseasons that are in front of us
and such that's good.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Well, and I'm about to drop a new segment on y'all.
It's going to be called Adam,so but I'm thinking please come
up with a graphic for that andlike so and I'm asking this as a
young entrepreneur myself we'vebeen very busy this year.
Uh, the media company that I do.
I've had a lot of requests andit's good.
(16:12):
It's good for business, it'sgood for me.
Uh, obviously I have days whereI work with you guys, I work
with other clients, but what I'mtrying to find out you're
talking about resting andbiblical, obviously, we're
called to rest.
It's tough for me because myrest day is a work day and so
now what I say is the churchgives us that, so we're off
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Friday and Saturdays.
But where I feel like Istruggle with is because I get
requests and I hate saying no,and my wife works, our daughters
are in school, so why not go dosomething?
That's where I'm trying tofigure out.
How do I learn to balance that,cause it's tough.
So, like I don't take Fridaysoff either, I'm at some Fridays
I'm working with you guys onprojects.
We have um other Fridays I'llgo work with other clients or do
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video projects, anything.
I feel like sometimes and Idon't know if anybody else is
listening or any otherentrepreneurs that's where I
struggle with is where do I findmy rest?
Because for me, I'm workingbasically Saturday through
Friday and we have I'm sorrySunday through Friday.
Saturday is like a family day.
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So, yes, sometimes we rest,sometimes we're busy.
That's where I'm strugglingwith, as someone that's trying
to find that rhythm is beingokay with taking a Friday off,
because I feel like if I'm offon Friday, I'm leaving money on
the table.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Yeah, that's what I'm doing.
All right, I got, we are goingcompletely like derailing right
here, but this, that is reallygood, adam, because I can
promise you what Brady justtalked about, with rhythm and
staying in alignment to beproductive Um, it's.
It's what God has designed usto do.
So I would challenge otherbusiness owners and leaders to
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think about exactly what youjust said.
There are times that and Bradywill tell you this too there are
many Sunday afternoons afterchurch, after we've led worship,
we've been up since early inthe morning.
It's not a quote work day, butSunday afternoon we are.
We are diving into projectsthat he and I have as owners.
There are Saturday morningsthat we hop on the computer.
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Yeah, we take time to watch afootball game or a basketball
game or whatever.
We spend time with the kids.
Don't get me wrong, but thereare some times, as an
entrepreneur and a businessleader, if you want to stay
ahead, that's our planning time.
A lot of that time is ourplanning time and we go through
that.
We go through seasons as well.
I believe that someentrepreneurs that don't do
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exactly what you're talkingabout yeah, they're going to get
burnout.
They're going to have you haveto take time for yourself At the
same time.
It depends on how fast our dadtaught us this a long time ago.
How fast do you want to getahead in life?
Do you want to retire whenyou're 70?
Or do you want to retire whenyou're 60?
You know, and he wasn't tellingus to work 500 hours a week.
(18:51):
That wasn't what he was saying.
He was saying prioritize whatyou need to prioritize,
including your own off time.
That's a priority, yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Yeah, I would.
I would say, um, this is.
This is somewhat of a strugglefor me, you know, because when
we talk about so like and we'vetalked about C12 a lot and C12,
we talk about rest and retreat.
You know, there's really twodifferent definitions for rest
and retreat.
But when we look at it from abiblical perspective, you know,
(19:21):
god worked in Genesis.
He worked six days and then herested, so he really set up
what's called the Sabbath andhonestly, that's something I've
been contemplating for a whileis what does true Sabbath look
like?
And I got a friend of mine thatwhat he does is so Saturday
afternoon, 12 o'clock PM to 12PM, the next day is Sabbath, and
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so he'll, you know he'll lockdown the phone, or you know it's
not.
That doesn't mean he's not,he's not reading the Bible for
24 hours, that's not.
Or he's praying for 24 hours.
It's just that he's turning offdistractions and he's
contemplating spending, you know, quality time with family or
whatnot.
I know some people that do.
Like in the old Jewishtradition is something called
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Shabbat, so during Sabbath theyhave a dinner, so things like
that.
But I think it's important and,adam, so, going back to your
question, what I've tried to doand this is something I need to
get better at is what does trueSabbath look like?
But when it comes time tospending time with the Lord, or
you know what we Christians calldevotion time, you know that
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can be a mini Sabbath.
So you're, you know, 30 minutesto an hour and turning off the
distractions, to an hour andturning off the distractions,
but again, it's something thatyou're building into a rhythm,
because what we're trying to getto is kind of a cycle.
What is the rhythm?
And it's a cycle of effort,it's a cycle of pause, it's a
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cycle of reflection and it's acycle of growth.
So what Benji was talking abouta cycle of growth, but you got
to have all four of those toreally get into it kind of goes
into something else.
As far as Stephen Covey wetalked about him earlier, but I
would highly encourage you guysthere's a great book out there
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called the Seven Habits ofHighly Effective People.
I've read it.
A lot of our team has read itand gone through it.
Brady, I've actually read thatone.
Boom, virtual fist pump, rightthere, pow, you know.
But what he talks about is alot of times what we get stuck
in is in the urgency.
So he's got these fourquadrants.
We get stuck in the urgencyinstead of the important, and
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one of my mentors you know he'sreal strong on Brady.
What is the highest and bestuse of your time?
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
You know, because you can do a lot of stuff, you have
the ability to do a lot ofstuff, but your position, what
is the highest and best use ofthat time?
You know, so that when we start, we start, when we look at and
talk about rhythms and I lovethat the cycles of effort pause,
renewal, growth.
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I mean sometimes I'm going sohard that I'm like, whew, man,
okay, man, I got to take anafternoon off, I don't want to
look at anything and just kindof, and a lot of times what you
know, I know Melissa and my wifewill do is sometimes we'll just
that's, that's.
At night, we're just like let'sjust veg and you know, just
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kind of sit and watch a show oryou know something like that.
But you got to have times of, of, of, of rest.
You do have to work in somerest in there too.
So rest, you do have to work insome rest in there too.
So, um, you know, as leaders,we have a a big responsibility
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to make sure that we give ourteams the best of us.
Yeah, and so the way, the waythat we give the best of us is
we.
We can't constantly be pouringout, but we have to be poured
into as well, and part of thatpart of that pouring into is
that that rest and routine andwhat that looks like, that's
really good so.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
Adam any other thoughts you got on that?
Adam didn't realize he was.
He was walking us right intoour next subject.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Yeah Well, I know you're talking about biblical
and that's what, because that'ssomething I'm trying to, and I
say that because I get told allthe time at the office, like
Adam, take a Friday off, take aFriday off.
It's just tough and it's like,because it's like it's really a
lot of the stuff that you guyshave talked to us is like how
are we going to change ourfamily tree?
How are we going to do thesethings?
(23:42):
And that's something Emily andI looked at when we even decided
to begin.
I never in a million years hada plan to be an entrepreneur.
But here I am, this is what I'mdoing.
But we always said is the juiceworth the squeeze?
Worth the?
Speaker 2 (23:58):
squeeze yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
So if I get offered a potential job, if it doesn't
pay for my time.
So for me as a video producer,my goal is always I want to make
and y'all may think it feelslike a lot I say between 75 and
100% profit.
What I'm trying to do is makethat money back because I'm
counting in everything I'm doing, my gear, all that kind of
(24:23):
stuff.
So I'm looking at those thingsand trying to do that.
And if it doesn't fit into thatquadrant, is it worth the time
to do it?
Because then also on thebackside, I and this is just my
heart God's given me a skill,god's given me a craft.
I believe there's times that Ishould share that.
And so I have people that willreach out.
They'll say, hey, can you dothis and that?
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And if I know something aboutthem, or if they've done a lot,
I may say, hey, you know what.
You've served the church, youdo this.
Let me serve you.
I'm not going to charge you forthis.
Let me do something.
I'll come take some photos, andso I try to do this.
So that's why I was asking that, because I'm trying to figure
out where is my energy best,because I think you're talking
about rhythm, brady.
That's where my rhythm'sgetting off.
I need to look at those things,yeah, because if it's getting
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thrown off with the businessside, it's going to throw off in
family life.
It's going to throw it off inmy full-time job.
It's going to throw offeverywhere.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
So let's maybe kind of get some practical stuff.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
And I don't know this .
Guys, you tell me what youthink.
Maybe this is another two partepisode.
There's a lot of stuff.
It definitely is.
This is good it is, but youknow, I think this is very.
This is one of those thingsthat I mean you guys are
struggling with it.
It's something I struggle with.
I think it's something anybody,even non-business owners where
is my time and how do I, how doI find that and get into the
rhythm?
I think it's a.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
So let's start with this On this one, let's talk
about what a quarterly rhythmlooks like in business and then,
when we come back next week,we'll talk about what it looks
like in personal life and familyand then we'll wrap it up.
So, in business, we talkedabout this a little bit earlier,
but it all starts with thestrategic plan.
So that's typically I know alot of organizations will do a
(26:03):
strategic plan either at the endof Q4.
We typically try to do it likein November, you know, right
before Thanksgiving, and thatgives us December to really iron
it out and make sure that it'sgood and get ready for the next
year.
I know some people don't do astrategic plan until Q1 of the
following year.
Whatever your rhythm is is fineas long as I think it's
(26:25):
important.
So think about this thestrategic plan is the
destination.
So we're setting a course,we're setting a destination, and
then what our quarterly rhythmswill do for us is they help us
to course correct.
So when we get to the end of Q1, here was the plan that we
(26:46):
outlined hey, how's that plangoing?
Is there any adjustments?
Is there any things that weneed to change up?
So that's where it begins.
So again, setting the strategicdirection, and then listen the
goal of the strategic plan, andwe have a whole episode, adam, I
don't even know what episodenumber that was, but you can go
back and listen.
(27:06):
Strategic planning Maybe we'llput in the show notes, but the
goal is not to come up with like100 different objectives.
What we try to do is for eachof our leaders we come away with
two.
So we start with five and thenwe work that five in strategic
planning.
(27:27):
The leaders come, they presentfive to the group and then what
we we walk away with is is twofor each leader and we have, I
think, 20, so we'll our 10leaders.
So we'll come up with 20objectives, but for their
department, for their division,there's only two things that
they're really focused on,because really, if you have more
than two per division, morethan two per leader, too many
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goals, it really dilutes focusand we want to stay focused on
what we're trying to do.
So it drives alignment with theteam.
And then what we're going to dois we're going to review that
every quarter.
There's a book by PatrickLencioni called Death by Meeting
.
It's really good.
I love the way that he writesbooks because he tells like a
(28:16):
fable or a story and then inthat story, like 75% of the book
is fiction.
He's writing a story about whathe's trying to to to talk about
, and then the last 25 is okay,here's the stuff.
So it's a really good book andit kind of outlines some of this
stuff, but every quarter you'regoing off-site.
Take your team off-sitesomewhere, don't do it in the
(28:38):
office, there's too manydistractions.
You know, if you can gosomewhere, uh, you know fun.
Or you know, like I'm not adam,I'm not making fun of you, but
you know he would, he would likesomething that's very you know
in nature, or something that'screative.
You know something that's getsparks, the, the creative juices
.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
You know, bougie to some bougie, but I might be
might be I need to be outside,because every job I've had put
me in a closet.
Oh, there you go.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Well, there you go, there you go.
I need some windows, but getyour team away from the office
in that way that you can havesome really good discussions
about what worked.
So we're kind of reviewing whatworked and did we miss the mark
on anything?
We had a goal.
We should be 25% of the way ofthe goal to hit it.
(29:27):
Are we 25% there?
And if we need to adjust course, we readjust course.
But it's also a time that wecan take those objectives and
say, okay, maybe we weren't asfocused on these objectives as
we should have been.
So let's recommit.
All right team, let's recommit.
These are the things that wetalked about.
These are the most importantthings that we need to focus on.
(29:55):
So let's recommit as a team andlet's go into the next quarter
with what are we doing?
So what would you guys have tosay about that?
Speaker 3 (30:03):
I will say this I remember when our team first did
this, it was very reactive,which we talked about earlier in
the show, but what it's turnedinto is it's turned into our
folks being more proactive.
Not that we're 100% of the waythere, just so you leaders and
business folks are listening.
But again, in your day-to-daylife there are going to be times
(30:24):
that you have to be reactive,but most of the time we should
be proactive, which sets theplan, sets the course, uh, and
gives everybody a clearobjective of what we're going to
work towards.
And that's, that's the keyfocus.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Yeah, I think it's good to have that's something
we're doing this year.
We're actually working throughit now.
We do a different our yearwe're actually working through
it.
Now.
We do a different our year.
Our quarters are offset so wedon't stick to a true calendar
year, and so we're workingthrough that strategic plan now.
We actually just had ours wentthrough, you know, pastor Jeremy
shared.
Hey, our word for this year isintentionality.
(30:56):
We need to have this.
Everything has to haveintention behind it toward the
greater goal, and so what ourgoal is as a team is Sundays
first, wednesdays second, andthen everything else is behind
that ministries, other things.
That's how we position.
How we're intentional is likehey, our focus needs to be
(31:18):
Sundays first, then Wednesdays,because we do discipleship on
Wednesdays.
We have all those things, andthen the ministries that fall
behind men's, women's, smallgroups, kids, all that stuff.
And so we're doing that now andthen evaluating those things.
We actually, for us, as ourcreative team, we evaluate
weekly so that's something forus that works well is every week
(31:39):
is different.
We have issues each week,whether it's audio, whether it's
visual, whether it's anything.
So every Monday we evaluatethese things and try to figure
out where things are.
We have what's called theMonday morning document.
So every morning our job is togo in and fill out.
You know good, bad things thathappened this week and I like.
For me, I said this is highpriority, mid priority and low
(32:06):
priority.
So I split out the differentthings I'm working on that.
Hey, if something happens and Idon't get to it this week, it
can.
It can be pushed back.
Or hey, these have got to getdone this week.
I can't let anything stand inmy way.
So and we do that to figure outexactly what you're talking
about At what point do we needto shift focus?
You know, hey, I don't have thecapacity to this.
(32:27):
Where's something I can helpyou with?
You know, hey, I can't do it.
So that's the other side too.
Is that teamwork side?
What can I do to helpfacilitate the projects you're
working on that need to get done?
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Well, and what these objectives and this quarterly
rhythm does, is it really?
Um, it supports accountabilityand it supports alignment.
Okay, so, team alignment um,everybody probably knows who
Steve jobs is.
You know the guy that was atApple and developed all these
things that you probably have inyour pocket right now or your
(33:00):
computer.
You know, just, excellence wasat the, at the top, and they,
they, really, they really didthis.
Um, you know cause what?
What he, what he was really bigon.
Maybe this is another uhepisode, but he said what I try
to focus on.
I think he had like a 16 hourwindow, but he said there's a
lot of noise that's out there.
He said I try to focus on thesignal.
(33:23):
I'm focused in on what is thehighest and best use of my time.
What things should I be focusedon?
So he had something he said.
He said deciding what not to dois just as important as
deciding what to do.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
That's good.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
Yeah, and so what these rhythms do for us is, with
alignment and accountability isyou may work with somebody and
Benji and I are like this too.
You know we'll say, oh, we gotthis new shiny thing we want to
do.
You know, here's this new, I'vegot this new idea, I got this
new thing, you know.
And what it does is it createsalignment with the team that
says, okay, well, hang on, guys,we can do that, like you are
(34:00):
the leaders and we will followwhat you're wanting to do.
But you also said last weekthat these were our priorities
and this is what we're doing.
So if you want us to do thisnew thing, then we need to make
a decision as a team to takethis old thing off.
Oh, no, no, no, no, that's notOkay, I got you.
Let's put that on a grasscatcher list.
(34:20):
It sounded really good in themoment, but let's put that to
the back burner.
We need to stay focused on whatwe're doing, and there's all
kinds of systems that are outthere that can help you guys.
I mean I'm thinking of, if youguys are familiar with EOS, eos,
the Entrepreneurial OperatingSystem.
They have what's called thequarterly rocks and that leads
(34:41):
up to your annual objectives.
There's another system outthere called 40X I think that
was actually by Stephen Covey,but they're basically the same,
with lead and lag measures andKPIs and KPMs and objectives and
targets, all these things thatthere are systems that are out
there that you don't really haveto go create something that you
(35:02):
can just if you'd like like me,I'd sometimes, yeah, I do like
to create, but other times I'mlike hey, if there's already a
proven system out there, let me,let me, let me follow that and
what this will do is just keepsus again in alignment with
there's always going to besomething urgent that's out
there, but this keeps us alignedto what are we really focused
(35:24):
on?
Speaker 3 (35:25):
Yeah that's good stuff.
I will tell you guys that we'vegot more to come with this
episode.
This is the first one.
Obviously, we're going to beshifting to the next one is
going to wrap these, this wholesegment up, but we just want to
say again thank you guys, somuch for tuning in to us.
We appreciate you listening,appreciate your feedback.
You can catch us on all socialplatforms at higher up podcast
(35:48):
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You can subscribe to anychannel you'd like YouTube,
apple, spotify, whatever youenjoy doing.
We want to say thank you againfor listening and, as always, go
out and choose to live a higherup life.
See you next time.
all right, well, boys , welcome in.
We're back.
Episode 32, season 3, episode 7it's a lot of numbers episode
seven.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
It's a lot of numbers , too many.
Wait what you said.
Season two, three, threeepisode episode seven.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
But technically this is our 32nd total episode, benji
benji, before we startedrecording benji was like we're
like episode 15.
I'm like, yeah, we're.
No, we're moving that way we.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
It seems like we're only on 15, but we've got a lot
going out there.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
So hey, it is, it is we're doing.
Well, I mean, we're killing it.
Just so you guys know, weclipped the 9,000 download mark.
We are less than 900 downloadsaway from the big 10,000.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
That's awesome.
Downloads away from the big10,000.
That's awesome.
And just I know we've had a lotof new listeners that have come
on to listen to the show.
We've had a lot of peoplewatching on YouTube.
We're out there on all thechannels.
So thank you so much for justtuning in and thank you for your
feedback.
We've had some people commentin.
Just thank you so much forlistening to us and whatever we
can do to help you and yourbusiness.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
That's what we're here for listening to us and
whatever we can do to help youand your business.
That's what we're here for.
Yeah, hey and Brady, just soyou know.
Yeah, episode 15 almost hasdouble the amount of listens as
the episode right behind it.
That is our top listen toepisode.
It's the abundancy overscarcity.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
All right, that's why we hired Brady to be on the
show with us.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Yes, so, the next one is When's that paycheck coming,
because I've not seen anythingyet.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Brady, we started monetizing a long time ago, and
that goes into Adam's bankaccount.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Oh, I don't know about that.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
I don't know about that one.
We're here for Adam.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
I don't know about that one.
It's supposed to be.
Giving us a discount on ourBuzzsprout is apparently what
it's supposed to be.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Yeah, listeners.
By the way, that is 100%, joe.
We do not monetize this, no, wedon't, but look if there's
anybody listening.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Starbucks, chick-fil-a, any of that stuff
I'll eat a sandwich while we'rerecording.
Whatever you, need.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
If you pay us to eat a sandwich, we will record it
and show it on our show so youcan know that we did.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
I will say this, though, on a serious note.
I mean not that you guysweren't being serious, but in
addition to the podcast, followus on LinkedIn too.
I know each of us are postingout stuff from time to time, and
there's some good stuff onthere too that may go into a
little bit more expanded versionof some of the things that
we're talking about on here, soif you're a reader instead of a
(02:47):
listener, then that might cangive you some different insight
into some certain things.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Yeah for sure, yes, yeah, we do.
We keep that going.
We stay consistent.
Last week was a crazy week.
We have five nights of prayer.
I was sharing with Benji.
That was the first time I'veever been a part of that at our
church and it was a differentexperience.
A good experience, yeah forsure.
Much different than anythingI've ever—I've never actually
done that consistently five daysin a row, like a 10-something,
like that.
(03:12):
I've never gone to a 21 days ofprayer service or anything like
that.
So it was a long week, but itwas a good week.
That's awesome, yeah, well.
So I'm excited.
Jumping in today this is a topic, brady, that you were sharing
with us and not to be confusedwith work-life and work and then
life balance.
(03:33):
But what we're looking at islooking to find that rhythm.
You told me.
You said hey, adam, that's thekey word we're looking at today
is finding that quarterly rhythmin your life that you're doing.
So talk a little bit, jump intothat.
You were sharing some things,some awesome insights to what
this is.
I think this is a perfectepisode for anyone that might
(03:54):
feel like they're out, I cantell you, last week that's where
I felt like we were workingeight to eight every day, five
days a week.
It's been busy.
This entire month of August hasbeen busy, so I'm excited to
kind of dive in and hear whaty'all have to say, to figure out
how do I get back into that,because for me I feel like I'm
off right now.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
So yeah, Well, hey, you know what, Adam?
We will do this episode justfor you, buddy.
Hopefully this will help youout.
So, yeah, I think the thingthat we're talking through you
know we had I think it was acouple episodes ago.
We were talking about halftimeand really halfway through the
year you're in the locker room,those types of things.
This is in the same vein asthat, but more of how do we get
(04:35):
into a rhythm in life and inbusiness.
We'll probably talk primarilymore about business, because
that's kind of the world that welive in, but these principles
can live in your normal life too.
I think it's one of my favoritequotes and I've probably said
this on here I sound like abroken record sometimes, but Zig
(04:57):
Ziglar said if you aim atnothing, you hit it every time.
When we're talking about goalsor targets or certain things, I
think this is in that samesphere as well is, if you just
look out into your life or intoyour business and man we've
talked about here on the showthat I'm a I'm a huge planner.
(05:18):
I love organization, I lovetask lists, I love all those,
anything that goes along with it.
I'm the type of guy that I ifif there's something not on my
task list, but I do the, I dothe task.
I will go back and add it tothe task list and check it off.
(05:39):
You know, I'm that type ofperson, brady.
I will say this, though, thatuh, I'm that type of person,
brady.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
I will say this, though, that I think the older
we get, the shorter the yearseems to get.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Well, yeah that's very true.
Like man I heard Emily theother day I can't believe
Addie's a year from going intolike sixth grade.
Oh yeah, and I'm just, I wantit.
I want that time back.
Yeah, yeah, yeah for sure.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
So we're talking about rhythm.
It's.
You know, Benji and I are arevery musical, you know, we're
both worship leaders at ourchurch and so this is this kind
of resonates with us to somedegree, because when you, when
you have a song that is out ofrhythm, just think about like
you're listening to something.
You're listening to a song,there's words that are being
sung, but there's no beat.
Yeah, there's no rhythm to it.
(06:26):
Something just seems off, right, Because there's no structure.
There's no, you know, it's justthe rhythm.
So when we're talking aboutrhythm, we're really talking
about in business, you know.
So things feel off.
Adam, you said that things kindof feel off or chaotic right
now.
So how can we step into arhythm to help us get back into
(06:51):
what we're trying to accomplish?
So when we think about a rhythm, like a quarterly type rhythm
is, you've probably got like astrategic planning session that
you've done sometime in, like Q4, right.
So you're setting prioritiesfor the year, but then each
(07:13):
quarter is going back and we'llget in dive in some of the
details, but each quarter, uh,you're reevaluating what those
priorities were and are theystill on track.
So Q1, you're looking back, orhow are we doing Q2 is really
that halftime, but that's whenwe get into a rhythm of every
single quarter or every singlemonth, or every single week,
whatever that looks like.
So when we get out of rhythm,what we start to see and I see a
(07:37):
lot of this in leaders and inbusiness and even personal is
what are some of the symptomsthat happen when we get out of
rhythm?
Those symptoms are we start todrift, Okay, which means we have
unclear priorities.
You know, maybe we're chasingdistractions instead of chasing
what.
What it is that we should beworking on.
This next one I see a lot isburnout.
(07:58):
So when you don't have cleardirection, when you don't have a
clear target, then burnout is avery real thing and that's when
you want to reset.
But then, when you also get outof rhythm, then we talk about
being proactive versus reactive.
(08:18):
Reactivity is a symptom of notbeing in rhythm, and so when we
get out of rhythm, these are thesymptoms.
I don't know if we've evertalked about Stephen Covey on
the show before, but I love whathe says.
He says that you know, the keyis not to prioritize what's on
your schedule, okay, but toschedule your priorities.
(08:41):
So think about that a minute.
Why don't y'all just give mesome reaction to that?
The key is not to prioritizewhat's on your schedule, but to
schedule your priorities, andyou know go ahead.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Benji and I was going to say for me, I think it goes
back to what we were talkingabout with the reactive versus
proactive approach.
You know a lot of leaders we'veseen this Brady in the line of
business that we're in Otherfranchisees we have friends that
are running other businesses.
They're always saying, man, Ican't figure out how to get to
that place or how do I get tothat goal, and they're always
(09:15):
behind the eight ball versustrying to be out in front of the
eight ball.
And that goes to what you justsaid.
You know how do we schedule?
We have to have a cadence.
We owe it to ourselves to havea calendar, have a task list so
that we can plan properly andalways be looking ahead Doesn't
mean you can't be.
You're going to have to bereactive.
(09:35):
Sometimes, let's be honest,things come our way, mostly
proactive in our approach.
Then our priorities are notwhat's.
You know.
We're always trying to schedulethose priorities versus trying
to react to how we can figurewhat those priorities should be.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Yeah, I think it goes back to where is my energy best
delivered for today.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
And I think that's finding those.
That's what I love about.
That is okay.
I have so many hours in a day.
What are the things that I needto prioritize, that need to get
my energy right?
Like, what do I need to work onnow?
That's something we're workingthrough as well.
Like we're moving from a momand pop church to a corporate
(10:20):
church church to a corporatechurch.
You know, like, hey, pastorJeremy said yesterday, you got
to stop just knocking on doors.
You got to stop knocking ondoors.
We've got to send peoplemessages, go through a system,
because people have otherpriorities and you don't realize
even something.
You may need help with somethingfor five, 10, 15 minutes.
(10:40):
Like, hey, can you help me withthat?
How are you changing yourverbiage right?
So, when you go to someone, hey, can you help me with that?
How are you changing yourverbiage right?
So, when you go to someone, hey, do you have the capacity for
this?
Can you help me with this rightnow?
And then be okay with it and belike I don't, I don't have the
capacity, I can't help you withit right now.
But that is something we talkedabout too.
It's not just on the ASCII,it's on the ask to be okay with
(11:06):
those things I have toprioritize.
Hey, I don't have the energyfor this right now.
I know it could probably take10 minutes, but man, I'm in the
middle of something right now.
If I stop I'm going to losemomentum.
So I think that's somethingthat's important for anyone.
Right now.
Is one be okay to say no andfigure out where do I really
need to put my energy is bestsuited today.
(11:27):
Is this something I can dotomorrow?
Is this something I can dolater in the day?
Is this something where we canschedule to sit down together?
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Yeah, Where's that energy going?
And, Brady, this just triggereda point too, because this is
this is great about schedulingpriorities.
I'm mentoring a gentleman atthe office and we were talking
about you know how do youactually run your schedule?
And the way he runs hisschedule is whatever happens
through the day, he just reactsto it.
And that he told me that.
He said I want to get better, Iwant to, and so what we figured
(11:57):
out was in our line of work.
You know, there are, there arepeople out there that may be
listening, that are a Pepsidrivers.
They got to go drop off Pepsisto this store and that store and
that they're just restock RightIn our line of business is the
same concept.
We go see a number of centersof influence throughout the day
and then what he was doing ishe's waiting till the end of the
day to remember who he talkedto, what he talked about and
(12:21):
documenting that accordingly.
And I said what if you couldjust take 30 seconds when you
finish a stop, 30 seconds anddocument that visit?
What we've just done is pickedyou up an extra 45 minutes a day
because you're being proactive,You're not being reactive.
That's a real life situationscheduling your priorities, yeah
(12:42):
.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Yeah, yeah, no, I think that's so good.
And, adam, when you were sayingabout, you know, saying no to
stuff, you know the reality iswhen you say yes to something,
that means you're saying no tosomething else, absolutely, you
know, so that's good.
You were also talking about, uh, there's only 24 hours in a day
.
I remember talking to somebodyI won't name any names but
they're like no, I get 25 hoursin a day and I'm like okay, how
(13:05):
do you do that?
He said well, I drink fivefive-hour energy drinks every
day.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
I'm like His heart's going to explode.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
I don't think that's the key.
Hope he doesn't hit coffee withit.
Well, yeah, so kind of gettingback to rhythm is, let's look at
it from a biblical standpoint.
Okay, god actually made this apart of his design and he
doesn't call it a quarters, hecalls it seasons.
And you know we were kind oftalking about this pre-show.
But you've got winter, spring,summer and fall, and so why
(13:38):
didn't God just, you know,create the earth?
And then we've got one season,you know that kind earth, and
then we've got one one season.
You know that that kind ofrules them all.
So I think he wanted us to bein somewhat of a rhythm of, okay
, let's.
So.
For me, the way I think about itis okay, yeah, we've got
priorities for the year, but myfirst sprint, you know I've I've
never run a marathon.
(13:59):
I know, I know Sarah has beenyou, but and maybe she does this
, but you're looking atmilestones along the way If I
can just get to that point, thenI know where I'm at, and then,
beyond that, I got to the nextpoint.
So that's why I think about theyear Okay, let's get to Q1.
Let's get to the end of Q1, andthen let's reset, and then
(14:20):
let's get to the end of Q2.
So now I've got shortermilestones or shorter targets,
and that's what this is.
And really, this is not a.
When we talk about rhythm, we'renot saying it's like a
productivity hack.
Okay, the kids say life hack.
This is not a life hack, allright, but it's really an
(14:41):
alignment.
What we're trying to do isalign ourself with the way that
God has designed us to work, youknow, because work is good.
That's what we were created todo is to worship and to work.
And so when we think aboutseasons and rhythms, that's what
we're looking at from abiblical perspective.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
You know, if you think about that too, I mean
that's, that's really good, youthink about that, it really
makes sense to stay to keep ifyou keep yourself in rhythm.
It's just like you said earlier.
I got a buddy of mine who has aum, a pacemaker in his heart
and you can hear.
You can hear that thing beatingsometimes and man, it is so
loud Like if he's to your point,if he's singing on stage, he
(15:23):
has to hold his mic a certainway because you can actually
hear the beating of thatpacemaker and sometimes that
thing gets out of rhythm andyou're like what he goes, what
just happened?
So that that's so good that ifwe challenge ourselves to stay
in rhythm, I believe we can be alot more productive.
We can get more things done.
(15:43):
We stay aligned with what Goddesigned in the different
seasons in life and differentseasons that are in front of us
and such that's good.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Well, and I'm about to drop a new segment on y'all.
It's going to be called Adam,so but I'm thinking please come
up with a graphic for that andlike so and I'm asking this as a
young entrepreneur myself we'vebeen very busy this year.
Uh, the media company that I do.
I've had a lot of requests andit's good.
(16:12):
It's good for business, it'sgood for me.
Uh, obviously I have days whereI work with you guys, I work
with other clients, but what I'mtrying to find out you're
talking about resting andbiblical, obviously, we're
called to rest.
It's tough for me because myrest day is a work day and so
now what I say is the churchgives us that, so we're off
(16:32):
Friday and Saturdays.
But where I feel like Istruggle with is because I get
requests and I hate saying no,and my wife works, our daughters
are in school, so why not go dosomething?
That's where I'm trying tofigure out.
How do I learn to balance that,cause it's tough.
So, like I don't take Fridaysoff either, I'm at some Fridays
I'm working with you guys onprojects.
We have um other Fridays I'llgo work with other clients or do
(16:54):
video projects, anything.
I feel like sometimes and Idon't know if anybody else is
listening or any otherentrepreneurs that's where I
struggle with is where do I findmy rest?
Because for me, I'm workingbasically Saturday through
Friday and we have I'm sorrySunday through Friday.
Saturday is like a family day.
(17:15):
So, yes, sometimes we rest,sometimes we're busy.
That's where I'm strugglingwith, as someone that's trying
to find that rhythm is beingokay with taking a Friday off,
because I feel like if I'm offon Friday, I'm leaving money on
the table.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Yeah, that's what I'm doing.
All right, I got, we are goingcompletely like derailing right
here, but this, that is reallygood, adam, because I can
promise you what Brady justtalked about, with rhythm and
staying in alignment to beproductive Um, it's.
It's what God has designed usto do.
So I would challenge otherbusiness owners and leaders to
(17:46):
think about exactly what youjust said.
There are times that and Bradywill tell you this too there are
many Sunday afternoons afterchurch, after we've led worship,
we've been up since early inthe morning.
It's not a quote work day, butSunday afternoon we are.
We are diving into projectsthat he and I have as owners.
There are Saturday morningsthat we hop on the computer.
(18:08):
Yeah, we take time to watch afootball game or a basketball
game or whatever.
We spend time with the kids.
Don't get me wrong, but thereare some times, as an
entrepreneur and a businessleader, if you want to stay
ahead, that's our planning time.
A lot of that time is ourplanning time and we go through
that.
We go through seasons as well.
I believe that someentrepreneurs that don't do
(18:28):
exactly what you're talkingabout yeah, they're going to get
burnout.
They're going to have you haveto take time for yourself At the
same time.
It depends on how fast our dadtaught us this a long time ago.
How fast do you want to getahead in life?
Do you want to retire whenyou're 70?
Or do you want to retire whenyou're 60?
You know, and he wasn't tellingus to work 500 hours a week.
(18:51):
That wasn't what he was saying.
He was saying prioritize whatyou need to prioritize,
including your own off time.
That's a priority, yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Yeah, I would.
I would say, um, this is.
This is somewhat of a strugglefor me, you know, because when
we talk about so like and we'vetalked about C12 a lot and C12,
we talk about rest and retreat.
You know, there's really twodifferent definitions for rest
and retreat.
But when we look at it from abiblical perspective, you know,
(19:21):
god worked in Genesis.
He worked six days and then herested, so he really set up
what's called the Sabbath andhonestly, that's something I've
been contemplating for a whileis what does true Sabbath look
like?
And I got a friend of mine thatwhat he does is so Saturday
afternoon, 12 o'clock PM to 12PM, the next day is Sabbath, and
(19:48):
so he'll, you know he'll lockdown the phone, or you know it's
not.
That doesn't mean he's not,he's not reading the Bible for
24 hours, that's not.
Or he's praying for 24 hours.
It's just that he's turning offdistractions and he's
contemplating spending, you know, quality time with family or
whatnot.
I know some people that do.
Like in the old Jewishtradition is something called
(20:12):
Shabbat, so during Sabbath theyhave a dinner, so things like
that.
But I think it's important and,adam, so, going back to your
question, what I've tried to doand this is something I need to
get better at is what does trueSabbath look like?
But when it comes time tospending time with the Lord, or
you know what we Christians calldevotion time, you know that
(20:35):
can be a mini Sabbath.
So you're, you know, 30 minutesto an hour and turning off the
distractions, to an hour andturning off the distractions,
but again, it's something thatyou're building into a rhythm,
because what we're trying to getto is kind of a cycle.
What is the rhythm?
And it's a cycle of effort,it's a cycle of pause, it's a
(20:58):
cycle of reflection and it's acycle of growth.
So what Benji was talking abouta cycle of growth, but you got
to have all four of those toreally get into it kind of goes
into something else.
As far as Stephen Covey wetalked about him earlier, but I
would highly encourage you guysthere's a great book out there
(21:19):
called the Seven Habits ofHighly Effective People.
I've read it.
A lot of our team has read itand gone through it.
Brady, I've actually read thatone.
Boom, virtual fist pump, rightthere, pow, you know.
But what he talks about is alot of times what we get stuck
in is in the urgency.
So he's got these fourquadrants.
We get stuck in the urgencyinstead of the important, and
(21:42):
one of my mentors you know he'sreal strong on Brady.
What is the highest and bestuse of your time?
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
You know, because you can do a lot of stuff, you have
the ability to do a lot ofstuff, but your position, what
is the highest and best use ofthat time?
You know, so that when we start, we start, when we look at and
talk about rhythms and I lovethat the cycles of effort pause,
renewal, growth.
(22:12):
I mean sometimes I'm going sohard that I'm like, whew, man,
okay, man, I got to take anafternoon off, I don't want to
look at anything and just kindof, and a lot of times what you
know, I know Melissa and my wifewill do is sometimes we'll just
that's, that's.
At night, we're just like let'sjust veg and you know, just
(22:32):
kind of sit and watch a show oryou know something like that.
But you got to have times of, of, of, of rest.
You do have to work in somerest in there too.
So rest, you do have to work insome rest in there too.
So, um, you know, as leaders,we have a a big responsibility
(22:55):
to make sure that we give ourteams the best of us.
Yeah, and so the way, the waythat we give the best of us is
we.
We can't constantly be pouringout, but we have to be poured
into as well, and part of thatpart of that pouring into is
that that rest and routine andwhat that looks like, that's
really good so.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
Adam any other thoughts you got on that?
Adam didn't realize he was.
He was walking us right intoour next subject.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Yeah Well, I know you're talking about biblical
and that's what, because that'ssomething I'm trying to, and I
say that because I get told allthe time at the office, like
Adam, take a Friday off, take aFriday off.
It's just tough and it's like,because it's like it's really a
lot of the stuff that you guyshave talked to us is like how
are we going to change ourfamily tree?
How are we going to do thesethings?
(23:42):
And that's something Emily andI looked at when we even decided
to begin.
I never in a million years hada plan to be an entrepreneur.
But here I am, this is what I'mdoing.
But we always said is the juiceworth the squeeze?
Worth the?
Speaker 2 (23:58):
squeeze yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
So if I get offered a potential job, if it doesn't
pay for my time.
So for me as a video producer,my goal is always I want to make
and y'all may think it feelslike a lot I say between 75 and
100% profit.
What I'm trying to do is makethat money back because I'm
counting in everything I'm doing, my gear, all that kind of
(24:23):
stuff.
So I'm looking at those thingsand trying to do that.
And if it doesn't fit into thatquadrant, is it worth the time
to do it?
Because then also on thebackside, I and this is just my
heart God's given me a skill,god's given me a craft.
I believe there's times that Ishould share that.
And so I have people that willreach out.
They'll say, hey, can you dothis and that?
(24:45):
And if I know something aboutthem, or if they've done a lot,
I may say, hey, you know what.
You've served the church, youdo this.
Let me serve you.
I'm not going to charge you forthis.
Let me do something.
I'll come take some photos, andso I try to do this.
So that's why I was asking that, because I'm trying to figure
out where is my energy best,because I think you're talking
about rhythm, brady.
That's where my rhythm'sgetting off.
I need to look at those things,yeah, because if it's getting
(25:08):
thrown off with the businessside, it's going to throw off in
family life.
It's going to throw it off inmy full-time job.
It's going to throw offeverywhere.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
So let's maybe kind of get some practical stuff.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
And I don't know this .
Guys, you tell me what youthink.
Maybe this is another two partepisode.
There's a lot of stuff.
It definitely is.
This is good it is, but youknow, I think this is very.
This is one of those thingsthat I mean you guys are
struggling with it.
It's something I struggle with.
I think it's something anybody,even non-business owners where
is my time and how do I, how doI find that and get into the
rhythm?
I think it's a.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
So let's start with this On this one, let's talk
about what a quarterly rhythmlooks like in business and then,
when we come back next week,we'll talk about what it looks
like in personal life and familyand then we'll wrap it up.
So, in business, we talkedabout this a little bit earlier,
but it all starts with thestrategic plan.
So that's typically I know alot of organizations will do a
(26:03):
strategic plan either at the endof Q4.
We typically try to do it likein November, you know, right
before Thanksgiving, and thatgives us December to really iron
it out and make sure that it'sgood and get ready for the next
year.
I know some people don't do astrategic plan until Q1 of the
following year.
Whatever your rhythm is is fineas long as I think it's
(26:25):
important.
So think about this thestrategic plan is the
destination.
So we're setting a course,we're setting a destination, and
then what our quarterly rhythmswill do for us is they help us
to course correct.
So when we get to the end of Q1, here was the plan that we
(26:46):
outlined hey, how's that plangoing?
Is there any adjustments?
Is there any things that weneed to change up?
So that's where it begins.
So again, setting the strategicdirection, and then listen the
goal of the strategic plan, andwe have a whole episode, adam, I
don't even know what episodenumber that was, but you can go
back and listen.
(27:06):
Strategic planning Maybe we'llput in the show notes, but the
goal is not to come up with like100 different objectives.
What we try to do is for eachof our leaders we come away with
two.
So we start with five and thenwe work that five in strategic
planning.
(27:27):
The leaders come, they presentfive to the group and then what
we we walk away with is is twofor each leader and we have, I
think, 20, so we'll our 10leaders.
So we'll come up with 20objectives, but for their
department, for their division,there's only two things that
they're really focused on,because really, if you have more
than two per division, morethan two per leader, too many
(27:51):
goals, it really dilutes focusand we want to stay focused on
what we're trying to do.
So it drives alignment with theteam.
And then what we're going to dois we're going to review that
every quarter.
There's a book by PatrickLencioni called Death by Meeting
.
It's really good.
I love the way that he writesbooks because he tells like a
(28:16):
fable or a story and then inthat story, like 75% of the book
is fiction.
He's writing a story about whathe's trying to to to talk about
, and then the last 25 is okay,here's the stuff.
So it's a really good book andit kind of outlines some of this
stuff, but every quarter you'regoing off-site.
Take your team off-sitesomewhere, don't do it in the
(28:38):
office, there's too manydistractions.
You know, if you can gosomewhere, uh, you know fun.
Or you know, like I'm not adam,I'm not making fun of you, but
you know he would, he would likesomething that's very you know
in nature, or something that'screative.
You know something that's getsparks, the, the creative juices
.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
You know, bougie to some bougie, but I might be
might be I need to be outside,because every job I've had put
me in a closet.
Oh, there you go.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Well, there you go, there you go.
I need some windows, but getyour team away from the office
in that way that you can havesome really good discussions
about what worked.
So we're kind of reviewing whatworked and did we miss the mark
on anything?
We had a goal.
We should be 25% of the way ofthe goal to hit it.
(29:27):
Are we 25% there?
And if we need to adjust course, we readjust course.
But it's also a time that wecan take those objectives and
say, okay, maybe we weren't asfocused on these objectives as
we should have been.
So let's recommit.
All right team, let's recommit.
These are the things that wetalked about.
These are the most importantthings that we need to focus on.
(29:55):
So let's recommit as a team andlet's go into the next quarter
with what are we doing?
So what would you guys have tosay about that?
Speaker 3 (30:03):
I will say this I remember when our team first did
this, it was very reactive,which we talked about earlier in
the show, but what it's turnedinto is it's turned into our
folks being more proactive.
Not that we're 100% of the waythere, just so you leaders and
business folks are listening.
But again, in your day-to-daylife there are going to be times
(30:24):
that you have to be reactive,but most of the time we should
be proactive, which sets theplan, sets the course, uh, and
gives everybody a clearobjective of what we're going to
work towards.
And that's, that's the keyfocus.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Yeah, I think it's good to have that's something
we're doing this year.
We're actually working throughit now.
We do a different our yearwe're actually working through
it.
Now.
We do a different our year.
Our quarters are offset so wedon't stick to a true calendar
year, and so we're workingthrough that strategic plan now.
We actually just had ours wentthrough, you know, pastor Jeremy
shared.
Hey, our word for this year isintentionality.
(30:56):
We need to have this.
Everything has to haveintention behind it toward the
greater goal, and so what ourgoal is as a team is Sundays
first, wednesdays second, andthen everything else is behind
that ministries, other things.
That's how we position.
How we're intentional is likehey, our focus needs to be
(31:18):
Sundays first, then Wednesdays,because we do discipleship on
Wednesdays.
We have all those things, andthen the ministries that fall
behind men's, women's, smallgroups, kids, all that stuff.
And so we're doing that now andthen evaluating those things.
We actually, for us, as ourcreative team, we evaluate
weekly so that's something forus that works well is every week
(31:39):
is different.
We have issues each week,whether it's audio, whether it's
visual, whether it's anything.
So every Monday we evaluatethese things and try to figure
out where things are.
We have what's called theMonday morning document.
So every morning our job is togo in and fill out.
You know good, bad things thathappened this week and I like.
For me, I said this is highpriority, mid priority and low
(32:06):
priority.
So I split out the differentthings I'm working on that.
Hey, if something happens and Idon't get to it this week, it
can.
It can be pushed back.
Or hey, these have got to getdone this week.
I can't let anything stand inmy way.
So and we do that to figure outexactly what you're talking
about At what point do we needto shift focus?
You know, hey, I don't have thecapacity to this.
(32:27):
Where's something I can helpyou with?
You know, hey, I can't do it.
So that's the other side too.
Is that teamwork side?
What can I do to helpfacilitate the projects you're
working on that need to get done?
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Well, and what these objectives and this quarterly
rhythm does, is it really?
Um, it supports accountabilityand it supports alignment.
Okay, so, team alignment um,everybody probably knows who
Steve jobs is.
You know the guy that was atApple and developed all these
things that you probably have inyour pocket right now or your
(33:00):
computer.
You know, just, excellence wasat the, at the top, and they,
they, really, they really didthis.
Um, you know cause what?
What he, what he was really bigon.
Maybe this is another uhepisode, but he said what I try
to focus on.
I think he had like a 16 hourwindow, but he said there's a
lot of noise that's out there.
He said I try to focus on thesignal.
(33:23):
I'm focused in on what is thehighest and best use of my time.
What things should I be focusedon?
So he had something he said.
He said deciding what not to dois just as important as
deciding what to do.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
That's good.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
Yeah, and so what these rhythms do for us is, with
alignment and accountability isyou may work with somebody and
Benji and I are like this too.
You know we'll say, oh, we gotthis new shiny thing we want to
do.
You know, here's this new, I'vegot this new idea, I got this
new thing, you know.
And what it does is it createsalignment with the team that
says, okay, well, hang on, guys,we can do that, like you are
(34:00):
the leaders and we will followwhat you're wanting to do.
But you also said last weekthat these were our priorities
and this is what we're doing.
So if you want us to do thisnew thing, then we need to make
a decision as a team to takethis old thing off.
Oh, no, no, no, no, that's notOkay, I got you.
Let's put that on a grasscatcher list.
(34:20):
It sounded really good in themoment, but let's put that to
the back burner.
We need to stay focused on whatwe're doing, and there's all
kinds of systems that are outthere that can help you guys.
I mean I'm thinking of, if youguys are familiar with EOS, eos,
the Entrepreneurial OperatingSystem.
They have what's called thequarterly rocks and that leads
(34:41):
up to your annual objectives.
There's another system outthere called 40X I think that
was actually by Stephen Covey,but they're basically the same,
with lead and lag measures andKPIs and KPMs and objectives and
targets, all these things thatthere are systems that are out
there that you don't really haveto go create something that you
(35:02):
can just if you'd like like me,I'd sometimes, yeah, I do like
to create, but other times I'mlike hey, if there's already a
proven system out there, let me,let me, let me follow that and
what this will do is just keepsus again in alignment with
there's always going to besomething urgent that's out
there, but this keeps us alignedto what are we really focused
(35:24):
on?
Speaker 3 (35:25):
Yeah that's good stuff.
I will tell you guys that we'vegot more to come with this
episode.
This is the first one.
Obviously, we're going to beshifting to the next one is
going to wrap these, this wholesegment up, but we just want to
say again thank you guys, somuch for tuning in to us.
We appreciate you listening,appreciate your feedback.
You can catch us on all socialplatforms at higher up podcast
(35:48):
and always you can go to ourwebsite, higher up podcastcom.
You can subscribe to anychannel you'd like YouTube,
apple, spotify, whatever youenjoy doing.
We want to say thank you againfor listening and, as always, go
out and choose to live a higherup life.
See you next time.
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