September 15, 2025 • 35 mins
Leadership isn’t just about strategy, it’s about rhythm. In this episode, we explore why intentional pauses and quarterly rhythms are essential for your business, family, and personal health. From balancing key life areas to safeguarding sacred family time, we offer practical strategies to prevent burnout and lead more effectively.
You’ll learn about tools like the balance wheel, the significance of family board meetings, and how small, consistent rhythms can create lasting legacies. This conversation will encourage you to rethink how you rest, reset, and refocus so you can lead effectively in all aspects of life.
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
all right, benji brady, welcome, and we are here
for part two of our quarterlyrhythm.
We got into the conversation onthe last episode, for episode
32.
And I mean, I just you knowit's one of those conversations
as we dove in, we got abouthalfway through and said, guys,
we don't have to split this oneup again, which I think is great
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.
It shows diving into this.
You know, some of thisconversation and things that I
feel like are great for peopleto hear and, honestly, it gives
us a chance to really break themdown.
But we've got, um, a couplemore things to chat about today,
so we can really break downthis topic.
We're going to dive a littlebit more into, you know, family
life, work life, and then reallykind of help you guys as we
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wrap up this topic.
Uh, for this part two is reallyhow you can apply that.
So, um, yeah, I've been to ittoday.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
I think.
I think it'd be good for ourlisteners and, by the way, the
listeners, thank you guys somuch for tuning in each each
time we have a episode drop.
Uh, really appreciate you,really appreciate your feedback,
your um, your engagement in oursocial media and all.
But I think it'd be good, brady, if we just kind of recap for
those that maybe someone's onhere new listening for the first
time, it's the latest episodejust kind of a quick recap of
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the case for the rhythm that wecame up with with quarterly
rhythm, and how it could work totheir benefit.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Yeah.
So I think the core theme ofwhat we talked about on last
episode was getting into sometype of rhythm, and really that
rhythm is biblical as well.
So God designed seasons andthere's seasons for a reason.
So God designed seasons andthere's seasons for a reason.
So if we look at it in quartersor seasons, then we sprint to
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or get to a specific milestone,which would be the end of the
quarter.
And yeah, we've done strategicplanning and we've done
objectives and goals and thingsof that nature.
But what we're, what we're ableto do, is really set aside time
to look at and say, okay, howare those things going?
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And so each quarter and it kindof ties into what we did a
couple episodes ago.
We talked about halftime andhalfway through the year and are
there adjustments that need tobe made and all those different
things.
So last episode was really moreabout leadership and business,
and today is going to be more ofleadership in life, like how
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are we leading our families andhow are we doing it?
If we're going to do it in abusiness setting, then we've
really got to model that in ourown personal lives.
So that's kind of what we'regoing to do it in a business
setting, then we've really gotto model that in our own
personal lives.
So that's kind of what we'regoing to break down today, yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
And that's always exciting to jump into because
you know one of the things youhave to think about, whether
you're a business owner, creator, whatever it is.
I mean, as we jump into some ofthese rhythms, I know we're
about to look at.
You know yourself, yourpersonal life, your, your family
, but I mean if you're notfeeding yourself and you're not
taking care of yourself and andyou know, and not to dive into
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like the the deep of that but ifyou're not taking care of
yourself mentally, spiritually,physically, I mean it's going to
wear on you to the point whereyou're not going to be able to
perform and you're not going tobe able to succeed.
So I know personally, for methis is one of the things I've
shared with you guys, I've got,I'm trying to figure out too and
work through.
So I'm excited to jump intothese topics and just hear from
you guys and what you'veexperienced and really what our
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listeners can take from it.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Yeah, I think the uh, I think the core idea here is
sometimes is and I'll, we'lljust go from a I mean, this is a
leadership podcast.
So from a leadershipperspective, a lot of times we
worry or think about ourorganizations and we really
don't think about ourselves.
And so obviously we quote JohnMaxwell in here a lot, and Benji
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and I actually heard this a lotgrowing up from our own father.
But he would say, guys, youcan't give what you don't have.
And we and we've talked aboutthis before on the show but you
know John Maxwell's law of thelid is you can't if your
organization is only going togrow as far as you grow.
So you have to, from a personalperspective, is we have to give
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ourself time to be filled up.
We have to give ourself time tobe filled up right.
And so from a biblicalperspective, if you look at even
in Matthew, in the book ofMatthew, where Jesus starts his
sermon on the mount, he startsit by saying blessed are the
poor in spirit, for they willreceive the kingdom of God,
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kingdom of heaven.
And so really, what he's sayingthere is you've got to empty
yourself, poor in spirit.
Okay, empty yourself so thatyou create that posture, but you
give yourself the capacity toallow God to fill you up,
because if he doesn't fill youup, you've got nothing to offer.
You've got nothing to give.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Yeah, you bring up a good point there too, that
sometimes we're going through aseries at our church right now
called Identity, and our pastorbrought out a mirror and he said
look, the first thing we haveto do with identity is figure
out.
We have to take a reflection.
Look at yourself in the mirror.
If you're looking in a lake anda pond, you're always going to
see a reflection for the mostpart, unless it's dark outside,
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and then even in you're going tosee a shadow of yourself.
So you still see a reflection,no matter how you look at it.
Right, and if we always take alook at ourselves and figure out
, you know where we're trying togo, where we're trying to get
in.
Yes, adam, you do have to haverest.
We're going to be talking aboutthat soon today.
You have to make, you have tomake time for that.
And um, because it's it's, youget caught in the grind and you
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get caught in your rhythm, butsometimes you can get out of
rhythm even being in rhythm.
So just just think about that.
That you know, get yourself inthat personal rhythm.
Brady's talking about Um, youcan't give what you don't have,
and man, I've learned thatprobably the last three years
more than ever.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
So look, so look in that good.
I mean, that's really good,benji, good perspective when we
look at it as a leader or evenin our family life, and we
talked about this last episode.
But when you get out of rhythmyou're on the verge of burnout,
you're on the verge ofexhaustion.
So you have to give yourselfsome type of rhythm.
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For me and we've talked aboutC12 before but C12 gives me this
rhythm, for me from a personallevel, because I have some other
men that I'm accountable toevery month.
I was just there yesterday andpart of the C12 model was
something called the balancewheel.
I'll just walk through thesereal quick.
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But the balance wheel I'maccountable to other people for
these different areas in my life.
So my walk with God, marriageand family how am I discipling
others?
Personal finance, biblicalcommunity, fun and recreation,
fitness and nutrition, rest andretreat, you know.
And then my walk with God.
I walk with God.
We already said that, but youknow I'm accountable to these
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different areas and it's actualwill.
So, like yesterday, my will was, if you look at it, it was like
a flat tire, because there weresome areas I was real heavy in
or I'd scored real well in, fromzero to 10.
And there were other, wereother areas that that I needed
some improvement on, and so thatthat's a rhythm for me to say,
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okay, well, let's look at uh,we'll pick on one like like rest
and retreat I'm not good atrest and retreat.
I mean I'm like let's go.
You know, go, go, go, go, go.
What's the next thing?
What do we need to be doing?
I've got to be able to givesome capacity, um, you know, to
my wife, to my kids.
And uh, I remember, uh, actually, one of the guys in our group
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we were talking about marriageand family and specifically
marriage, and uh, one day hetalked about three D's in
marriage and we were like, okay,what, what's three D's?
He said, well, if you want astrong marriage, then you want
to discuss daily.
Okay, so have a conversationwith your wife every day.
You know like intentional time,date, date, weekly.
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So physically go out on a date,take her to dinner.
You know you plan it that typeof thing and then depart monthly
and it's like get, get away for, you know, a day or a weekend
or something.
But that's a rhythm thatactually Melissa and I have been
doing for a little while andit's very helpful All those
other areas are ones and you'renot going to get them all good
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at the same time, but it's goodfrom me from a monthly
perspective is to look back andsay, hey, how am I doing in
these areas?
What are the things over thenext month that I need to try to
work on and improve?
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Yeah, and to your point, you're taking a
reflection of yourself, right,you're trying to make sure that
you stay on, you stay on track,but you got to give yourself
time to get that, that planningin.
Whether it's your family, youknow, whether it's your business
, whatever, you've got to makesure you get that time for
planning because sometimes, eventhough our calendar might quote
be filled up, is it filled upwith the right things and the
right activities?
So you've got to take a take areflection of that yep.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
So so you know, from a, I guess, a practical
standpoint, if you look atsomewhat of a like a quarterly
reset, you know, can you, likebenji said, can you book it out
on your calendar to go away forthe day, you know, just have
some strategic time.
Or on a Saturday I know it'stough right now, probably
because there's, you know,college football and things like
(09:33):
that going on but can you getaway with your wife and, just,
you know, focus on your marriageor focus on some things that
you need to improve on, I know.
Another big one for me is andI'm still trying to figure out
how to get this right, and Idon't know necessarily if
there's a right way but theBible is very clear about
Sabbath and how do we Sabbath,how do we rest?
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God did it himself.
He worked for six days and thenthe last day he rested.
So if, if, if, he thought itwas important, then we probably
need to to do something there,and I and I haven't, I haven't
mastered that one yet.
I think that's going to takesome time for me to um, but what
do you, what do you guys do Imean as far as, like a, a rest
and retreat or uh um a quarterlyreset.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Well, I know for.
So we're off Fridays andSaturdays, and so one of the
things that we've tried to domore because you know, the girls
have school on Friday Emily,emily works on Fridays.
So one of the things I try todo is, either one, I'm booking
clients on Fridays, whether it'sphoto shoots, video shoots,
things like that, if I'm workingwith you guys on Fridays, I
feel that because they'rethey're, you know, they're not
there, I like, for me, I don'tget the rest just being at home,
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like without, like, if I'm notwithout, unless I'm doing
something, you know, honeydewlist, something like that, um,
so we'll do those, but those.
But what I have done is some ofthose Fridays where, um, cause,
typically if I'm working withyou guys, I'm there all day, but
if it's something where I'mworking with a client, I've got
a quick photo shoot.
I always try to take thoseFridays and kind of take that
marriage principle and try to atleast go have Emily, have lunch
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with Emily.
You know, once or twice a month, if I can on a Friday, I'll go
downtown, we'll go find a placeto eat.
But Saturdays have really becomethat for us as a rest day,
because we don't typically haveanywhere to go.
We don't have anything thatwe're doing unless the girls are
involved in some type of sportsor something like that, and
then really that rests ustogether as a family.
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So that's kind of what ourprocess has been is using that.
I know personally I need to bebetter about using Fridays.
That's why our work week isscheduled that way, because
technically, saturday to Sundayis a full work day for us.
But that's where my I thinkI've shared that with you guys
before.
That's where my struggle is.
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I mean, if somebody calls andwants something, I feel like I
leave money on the table if Idon't take it.
So that's something I'mpersonally having to work
through.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Yeah, I mean, for me it's as Brady said, this time of
year with college football, nflfootball.
You know we've Saturday.
We try to we go down to Auburnor whatever be at the games,
just hang out with the family.
Our oldest is at Auburn now soit makes it a little easier to
get down there more obviously.
But you know, we went downthere a weekend ago and we just
kind of chilled at her place fora half a day.
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We didn't do anything, we justkind of sat there, hang out and
um, then Sunday afternoons afterchurch we come in and we'd like
, man, we all crashed for acouple hours, just put the
football games on TV and justsit there and just relax.
Don't open a computer, don'thave your phone, just literally
just just sit there, you know,um, so that's kind of fun.
But um, yeah, and there's timesthat you know, sarah and I'll
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try to get away for a weekendand um, we're in a kind of busy
season of life right now, butwe'll try to.
We're going to get back to thathere coming up soon, um, but
it's, it's just, you know how itis when school starts and try
to get the kids back in a grooveand it.
You got work going on, you gotchurch going on, you got
communities going, communitygroups going on, whatever.
So just it.
It does make it difficult, butto your point, brady, we got to
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make that time.
You got to make that time torest and relax sometimes.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Yeah, got it, got to be intentional, um.
So here's kind of the thought.
The final thought on on thisparticular section is and this
is kind of a challenge to to usand to you guys that are that
are listening but if I can leavemy company quarterly but I
can't leave myself quarterly, amI in trouble?
Yeah, right, and.
And a lot of times we think,well, you know, it's not about
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me, you know those types ofthings, but it's really not
selfish, it's really stewardship.
You know, how are you, how areyou stewarding?
And again, going back to theinitial thought of you can't
give what you don't have.
You've got to be able to learnand to grow so that you can help
others.
So what we want to talk aboutnext is really so that we just
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talked about how to lead ourselfand get into that quarterly
rhythm.
Now we extend it to the family.
So how do we do that well as afamily?
How are we stewarding ourfamilies?
And, um, they, they need rhythmas well.
You know we go through, we gothrough different seasons of, I
know, um, a friend of mine wewere just talking about a C12
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yesterday.
You know they, they docompetitive soccer and it's it's
busy in the spring and in thefall.
So what do you do in the in thesummertime, you know?
Are you enjoying other things?
Are you having more of arestful season or busy?
And I know people that play,like travel softball and travel
baseball.
But how do you get into aquarterly rhythm?
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But also, how do we lead ourfamilies in such a way that I
remember somebody tellingMelissa and I one time that
we're not really raising kids.
You know, we're raising futureadults, so how are we preparing
them to go out into the worldand to, to, to live?
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And I mean one thing that that,uh, that we started doing
recently is really thinkingabout.
And I was challenged with thenext hundred years, the next
five generations, like what isthe fifth generation from from
our family going to look likeand how are they going to
perceive, you know, what we'vedone and some things that we've
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set up.
So we we actually started doinglike a family board meeting, um,
and we'll we'll meet month,monthly, but really on a
quarterly rhythm, to to teachlike core principles of
stewardship and financial andbudgeting and organization, and
you know those types of things,cause I I guess the realization
that I had was I'm doing that atwork.
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You know I'm mentoring peopleon how to do this stuff, but am
I really mentoring my own kidsof how to do that?
And I've got a 20-year-old thatjust got married and I've got a
17-year-old that's going tograduate this year.
So that's been like a personalconviction of mine of how am I
handing these things down to myown family?
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If I'm going to do it in work,I need to do it with my family
too.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
That's, that's a good .
That's a good point, cause youknow, we're going through a
season right now with our son.
It's a it's a good season,don't get me wrong, but I'm
always wanting to do this to avehicle or try this with a
vehicle and put subs in andchange tires and do this.
I've been there.
I mean, youtube is the answerfor those parents out there
listening right now.
They seem to think that YouTubeis the fix-all, be-all for
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everything that you have.
So if YouTube says you can doit, you can do it.
You know, oh yeah, but you lookup and the oil cap is missing
and you know why is the oil low?
Oh, there's your problem rightthere.
So why is the Ola?
Oh, there's your problem rightthere.
So to your point um, we getcaught up.
In these year, I would say ayear ago, man, we really had a
struggle with our son just totry to look.
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Every time you do something,you're breaking it, every time
you do this.
So I had to.
I'm trying to change mymentality to get in that
quarterly rhythm for him, cause,as you guys know, every kid's
different, right.
I mean they all, they alladjust and adapt to different
things and, um, trying to tellthem look, if you'll take care
of this, this is what it willbenefit you in the future.
If you, if you want, if youwant to do this things to your
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vehicle, you're going to have totake the time to get a
part-time job to pay for thisCause.
We're not going to, we're notpaying for this, you, you paying
for this.
You have to teach them thoseprinciples.
And then our youngest, of course, again, the oldest is in
college, but the youngest.
We were last night at dinnerand she said Daddy, I'm really
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glad that I get to go to churchbecause I get to study the Bible
and she's starting to write herBible verses down, she's
quoting scripture and you get inthat quarterly rhythm with your
family.
And because we did have aseason and Adam knows this,
being in the softball world too.
But, man, we got.
We got so busy with softballand baseball and soccer, and I
said it a minute ago but wefilled the calendar up.
But for the family, you'relooking back, I go.
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You know, maybe there was areason they got burnt out on
doing this because I wasprobably pushing it more than
they wanted to do it.
So you got to again, takingthat reflection of yourself but
at the same time, putting themin a position to what matters
most, and what matters most iseternity at the end of the day.
Um, you can again.
You can fill your calendar up,but make sure it matters.
And for those of you that mightbe listening out there, just
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encourage you.
You know, if you want to reachout to us, we can give you some
tips and principles of how to dothat.
We'd be glad to share it withyou.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
I heard a pastor tell me one time if the devil can't
get to you, he'll use yourschedule to get to you.
Oh for sure, Because he's goingto use that against you and
because he knows if I will, if,if I, if I can have their
schedule filled with these and,you know, keeps them from being
in the word, or it keeps themfrom being in community with
people, or just, you know, keepsthem from being at a church
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with their you know, theirchurch family.
That's how I'm going to get tothem, because I'm going to keep
them disconnected, keep themfrom, keep them from being where
they're growing and encouragedby others, and I'm going to use
that against them.
So I've always tried to do that, because we've gone through
that same thing, benji thatschedule.
You know the kids are busy andyou know you, you want to, as a
parent, as a father, as you know, you want to give these kids
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the things that they want to do.
You want to let them enjoysoftball, you want to let them
enjoy these things.
But, um, you know that's one ofthe things that we've done and
we've gotten non-negotiables.
You know that's one of thethings we've gone through as a,
and what we've done is we'vecreated a rhythm where I
typically leave the churcharound 3.30 and I go pick up the
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girls, emily leaves work atfour and then we go have dinner.
We go meet somewhere downValleydale where the church is.
We've got several options.
We let the girls pick something.
Chick-fil-a hey look, metroDiner.
Metro Diner is one of myfavorite.
But we go and what's nice is weput phones down, we put
everything aside, and so wetypically get there about 4.30.
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I don't have to be back to thechurch until about 5.45, 6 to
start prepping and gettingthings ready.
And, man, for that hour we justsit and we have family time
together, we have dinnertogether and we've been doing it
for probably two or threemonths and we've created that
rhythm as a family to say, hey,wednesday nights we're going to
meet up, we're going to find aplace, we're going to go sit
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down and we're just going toenjoy talking.
How's our day, how's your weekbeen, what are you doing?
So that's been really good forus.
And then we go to churchtogether, which is great, you
know, if I'm not serving orEmily's not serving, if I don't
have something I've got to do,wednesdays has been really good
for her and I to sit together,because we do a full Bible study
at the church.
We have a full service onWednesday and that's just been
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good for us as husband and wifeand for the girls, because we're
getting fed, like you'retalking about, benji, but just
sitting down, because Sundaysfor me it's wild.
I'm running around, I'm runninga team, you know we're fixing,
we're fixing issues, it's justSundays are crazy.
So Emily and I don't get to sitin church together a lot.
So it's like what you'retalking about, brady.
We find those things during ourweek that we can do that.
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So Wednesdays has been that forus.
I get to sit with her duringBible study and it's just, it's
just nice to for her and I tohave at least that Wednesday
night, when we know Sundays arecrazy, it's good stuff.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
Yeah, so yeah, just thinking about your family and
we'll, we'll, um, we'll wrap upthis section.
But, um, you know, I'm justreminded of a verse, a verse in
Proverbs that says a good manleaves an inheritance to his
children's children.
And that's not necessarily alot of us may think of.
Well, that's, you know, that'smoney or finances or whatnot,
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but it's really not, it's wisdom.
You know Proverbs is wisdomliterature.
So what kind of legacy are youleaving?
What kind of inheritance quoteunquote are you leaving?
And what are you teaching yourkids?
And you know all those things.
But again, it goes back to youcan't, you can't give what you
don't have, so you have to, youhave to do those things yourself
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first.
So, whatever that looks likefor you guys, you know, as far
as some type of a quarterlyrhythm with your family, or it
could be monthly or weekly, likeyou guys were talking about.
Whatever it is, it's justsetting aside some time to
reflect and and talk about.
You know what are, what are weexperiencing as a family, or or
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what's going on in the world?
Maybe you know some.
Just some conversation I'vebeen, you said put the phones
away and and that's probablyhard for all of us to do.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
It's hard for all of us.
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Yeah, because it's so distracting.
I mean, before the show we weretalking about TikTok, which I
do not have, tiktok, by the way,all right, I think TikTok is of
the devil.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
But there are other.
It's a search engine though.
I know it's a search engine,but you need something.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Apparently, you can shop in there.
Somebody told me about that theother day.
I that the other day I was likeTikTok shop.
Okay, Well, that's interesting.
So what we want to do is, Imean, last episode we talked
about the business part and thisepisode we talked about more of
family and personal type things.
But how do we take all thisinformation and really give you
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guys a call to action?
Benji said this, but if youguys need some help, then reach
out to us or give us somecomments.
We'll try to help you inwhatever way that we can do.
Some of you I think we did thisin the last series that we did
but some of you leaders aregoing to be like gung-ho, like,
okay, what do I need to do rightnow?
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We're going to go and implementthis tomorrow and that's great.
Some of you may, you know,think about it and kind of
reflect on it.
But whatever you do, at leastdo something, take some type of
action.
So kind of in review is justreally from a quarterly rhythm
type perspective is we want toreview, we want to reset, we
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want to recommit, and so what,reviewing the last quarter from
a business perspective?
What are the objectives, that,the goals that we came up with
for the year.
Are they still working?
Do we need to reset any ofthose or refocus on any of those
and then with either yourselfor your team is really a
recommitment.
I don't know about you guys,but, like in our world, three
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months is a eternity.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
It is a long time.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Yeah, long time, and so it's almost good to say, okay
, now what do we decide to do?
And let's go back and recommitto those things One thing that
we do in our business and we'llactually do in November, october
, yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Well, we'll do it in November, that's right.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Yeah, but each quarter we actually take our
team offsite.
So we, we, we call it aquarterly offsite so we get away
from, uh, the the hustle andthe grind of the day-to-day in
the office, where there arethose distractions, or hey, can
I meet with you?
Hey, can I, you know, seepeople in the hallway?
We take our team off site.
We, we reflect on the quarterand then we actually go to try
to go do something, somethingfun together.
(24:42):
You know, it doesn't have to belike super expensive.
I mean, I think last quarter wewent and played at a new indoor
putt putt place.
Yeah, for sure, uh, and it wasa lot of fun just seeing some
competition and the team havingsome fun.
Um, but what, what other, whatother wisdom would you guys
offer up as far as action steps,or how do we take action on
(25:04):
what we're trying to do here?
Adam, I'll let you go first.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
I mean, one of the things that we've really been
trying to do lately is justre-evaluate where we're at as an
organization.
I mean, I think I've shared,you know, we're at that point
right now with the church wherewe're moving from mom and pop to
a more larger, well-oiledorganization, a more larger,
(25:33):
well-oiled organization.
And so I think something thatfor us that we're going through
right now, that we need tocontinue going through, is just
evaluating what our processesare.
And so one of the things thatwe're working through is we're
trying to put things in placewhere and it's going to be very
new to the team it's differentfor them, but, like any project
video graphic event has to besubmitted for a.
(25:56):
We have what we call a budgetand project planning tracker,
and this is just one example.
This is just the first stepthat we're doing to kind of look
at those things, and it gave usa chance to step back.
We met with the team yesterdayand said, look, we know this is
going to be like drinking from afire hose, you know, but we're
(26:17):
having to make these stepsbecause we've got to make
changes.
We can't just walk into anoffice and say, hey, do you have
time?
Hey, do you, can you do this?
We've got to really plan thesethings out.
So I think that's somethingthat I would challenge anyone to
look at.
It is reevaluate those and thenreally having those
conversations with your team.
That's something I brought upyesterday.
(26:39):
We've got some things thatwe're working through.
Like our student ministry isvery student led, like it's
awesome, but they lead their ownworship, they lead their own
media team, they lead everything.
But we've got to step back andsay, all right, we haven't had a
meeting in a couple months,just like you said, brady, it's
been probably more than three.
You know, I brought up I said,hey, when we're done with our
(27:00):
big student event next week, weneed to get the student creative
team together and we need tocast some vision.
We need to express some of thechanges we're making, you know,
and have that changes we'remaking, you know, and have that,
because I think if you aren'thaving those sit down vision
casting meetings, you're goingto lose what the point is.
And so I think those everythree months, because I do.
I agree with you guys a hundredpercent.
(27:21):
Three months is 90 days is along time.
A lot of things change.
I mean, think about it Summer's90, summer's, roughly, you know
, two months, three monthsdepending on where you're at.
You've got that, and then kidsget back into school and then
seasons change and then holidaysare here.
I mean, three months is a lot.
That's why I feel likeeverything is really split into
(27:41):
the quarters, because you've gotto look at those things and
evaluate.
So that's somehow a challengeis really making sure that
you're not going more than 90days and looking at things,
because your business, yourchurch, anything that you're in,
to me it should constantly beevolving, because business is
(28:03):
evolving the way things are.
I mean trends, social media,technology.
I mean, think about it how muchwe use ChatG, gpt now for
everything I mean I, I meanhere's adam's, adam's using chat
gpt.
Hey, what's funny is my wife.
If I tell her I use it, she waslike, didn't you get pretty a
hard time about?
Yeah, all the time.
(28:23):
Yeah, thank you, emily, Ireally please don't tell him
this oh, that's, this is makinga social media reel.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
I'm just telling you oh yeah, so.
So just for the record,yesterday I was talking with a
guy and I was like what in theworld did we do without chat,
gpt, like we actually had toresearch stuff, you know.
Now you just type it in andtell it, tells you what it is.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Well, and, and you know, and this is why I say that
I mean like even for me, whenI'm, when I'm billing out
projects and I'm trying tofigure out where that median is
for the right return.
But I also, you know, I use ita lot to say all right, you know
, if I'm making X amount ofmoney and I have these expenses,
how much do I need to set asidefor my federal estimated taxes
(29:00):
from this project?
How much do I need to tithe offwhat I make?
So I mean it is and, like Isaid, I know that's totally off
subject with it, but I mean mypoint is is that things change
quickly and if you're notevaluating those, it's going to
hurt your team in the end.
And then we talked about thisyesterday is our, our job really
(29:21):
as leaders is to try to keepfrom having that burnout?
You know our creative andworship pastor.
She tells us my job is to bemama bear and my job is to
protect the two of you, becauseI know the two of you have a
hard time saying no to the teambecause you want the team to
succeed.
So I need to protect the two ofyou to make sure those things
are, and I think that's our jobas leaders as well.
Yeah, because, especially in myfield, I don't want anyone
(29:44):
having church hurt or beingburnt out, because the church,
especially for creatives hey,can you do this, can you take
these photos?
But I mean, even in thebusiness you guys are in, that
can easily happen.
Somebody could get used overand over for something because
they have a skillset, and soit's just that.
Evaluation for me is where Ifeel like it's so important.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Yeah, I'll just give a quick thing, brady, and we'll
let you wrap it up, but I thinkfor me, it's again taking a
reflection of ourselves gettingin that quarterly rhythm again,
whether it's your business,whether it's your family,
whatever, getting that quarterlyrhythm and try to stay focused
on that and fill your calendaragain with things that are
important, make it, make it,make priorities the priority,
and that's that's what you wantto stick with Cause again.
(30:24):
You don't want to fill thatthing with the wrong uh, the
wrong items that just are busywork.
I'm actually mentoring a guyright now on and we're strictly
talking about how to be betterorganized, using a calendar,
using a task list.
We've met three times and he'stold me he told me this last
week he said man, I never knew Ineeded it like this before,
(30:45):
like this, this, this, and heactually brought, he's bringing
out other challenges that he'spicking up on himself and saying
, man, I really I didn't knowthat I was actually doing this
this way, but now that I'mseeing it on this side, it makes
so much more sense if I juststay focused on that, that thing
, that item at hand.
So really good.
(31:06):
Again, just encouragement stayin that quarterly rhythm.
It's not perfect, but you canget.
You can get there over time.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
Yeah, so just three, three things to kind of wrap us
up.
Uh, one is I think it wasPatrick that said this, but, uh,
when everything is important,nothing is Okay.
So just reflect on that.
When everything is important,nothing is.
So you have to figure out whatthe priorities are, and for us
as leaders, then, what thequarterly reset does is allow us
(31:37):
to again to reflect.
Yeah, I was reminded too of andthere's multiple people that say
it different ways but JamesClear, you don't have to get
this all right tomorrow.
Right, he talks about the 1%.
So just try to get 1% betterevery single day, and by the end
of the year it's exponential.
(31:58):
What will happen?
But if you try to go out and doeverything differently tomorrow
, then you're going to getburnout.
You're just going to try tooverachieve and it's just, it's
not going to go.
Well, it's not, it's not goingto happen.
So this whole thing is notabout perfection, okay, it's
more about direction.
(32:19):
And so how are we?
How are we looking at thefuture?
We're reflecting on the past tolook at the future, to see what
do we need to do different,what do we need to change?
Like I said, some of you aregoing to try to go out and do it
tomorrow, and that's great.
Others, you may want to dipyour toe in the water, you know
just, but at least do something.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Or find a mentor, Brady.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
That's a great point.
Find somebody that can helpwalk you through this.
If you don't know how to do it,then find somebody that will
help you.
Maybe somebody in your church,maybe somebody in your
organization, your business.
There are people out there thatwant to help you.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Yeah, I had a funny story, totally separate.
You're talking about mentor,our pastor's daughter.
She's kind of like my righthand person at the church, she's
our social media coordinator,and Emily and I were just
sitting last night watching TVand I got a voice memo for her
and she was like, hey, this iskind of random.
And she was like but I justwant to brag for you for a
moment.
She said I have a friend that Isaw posted something and I
(33:21):
guess she you know she broke hercamera, like she put it in a
bag.
And she was like I just want totell you like, thank you for
teaching me to like protect mycamera and stuff.
She was like, cause, when shefirst started doing it, I was
like I said, kate, you need togo, you need to go buy an
expensive bag.
So you want to buy for a $3,000camera and put it in a $20
camera bag that you bought offAmazon.
I said it's an investment and Isaid protect that investment so
(33:43):
that way you can continue tomake money.
And she sent that and I andwhat's crazy is you guys like I
mean I was just telling her likeI had an extra bag.
I said, hey, I'll sell it toyou.
It's an expensive bag but I'llgive it to you for cheaper.
I've got some other nicer stuff.
I said, but you need somethingnice, like you've got to protect
your.
I mean, your camera is yourinvestment, that's where you
make your money and I didn'tthink anything of it.
(34:04):
To me it.
But you don't realize, likethose small conversations as
leaders oh yeah, you like youknow, we're going through a
series right now at the churchcalled everyday influencer and
you don't realize that the smallthings, the small conversations
like that you're having withyour staff, that you're having
with the people like you guysare mentoring or that are
mentoring you, these smallconversations lead to larger
(34:28):
things.
And you know, it was just I toldEmily I was like that it meant
a lot and I just didn't thinkabout something as small as like
, hey, put your camera in a nicebag, like protect it, that she
would see that she was like hey,just thank you for like
mentoring me and teaching methese things, because I'm
learning, the things that I'mbuying, I need to protect and I
need to, I need to use those.
(34:48):
So I just I thought that wascool.
When you're talking aboutmentor and the things that you
do.
You don't realize that thesesmall conversations, it creates
this rhythm that you're talkingabout and what it's going to do
for your business and for youpersonally.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
Yeah, and Adam, if you, if you would like me to
mentor you how to use chat GPT,I'd be glad to.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
I'll be honest with you.
I might be able to run circlesaround you a little bit now.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
Oh for a challenge there, buddy.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
Look, we got some stuff coming up.
I need you to teach me anyway,so well.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
As Brady said, just remember, rhythm is not about
perfection, it's about direction.
Just want to say thank you allfor tuning in to another episode
of higher up podcast.
Again, you can check us out onany social platform at higher up
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(35:36):
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Share this with someone and uh.
We just want to say again thankyou so much for tuning in and
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See you next time.
all right, benji brady, welcome, and we are here
for part two of our quarterlyrhythm.
We got into the conversation onthe last episode, for episode
32.
And I mean, I just you knowit's one of those conversations
as we dove in, we got abouthalfway through and said, guys,
we don't have to split this oneup again, which I think is great
(00:32):
.
It shows diving into this.
You know, some of thisconversation and things that I
feel like are great for peopleto hear and, honestly, it gives
us a chance to really break themdown.
But we've got, um, a couplemore things to chat about today,
so we can really break downthis topic.
We're going to dive a littlebit more into, you know, family
life, work life, and then reallykind of help you guys as we
(00:53):
wrap up this topic.
Uh, for this part two is reallyhow you can apply that.
So, um, yeah, I've been to ittoday.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
I think.
I think it'd be good for ourlisteners and, by the way, the
listeners, thank you guys somuch for tuning in each each
time we have a episode drop.
Uh, really appreciate you,really appreciate your feedback,
your um, your engagement in oursocial media and all.
But I think it'd be good, brady, if we just kind of recap for
those that maybe someone's onhere new listening for the first
time, it's the latest episodejust kind of a quick recap of
(01:21):
the case for the rhythm that wecame up with with quarterly
rhythm, and how it could work totheir benefit.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Yeah.
So I think the core theme ofwhat we talked about on last
episode was getting into sometype of rhythm, and really that
rhythm is biblical as well.
So God designed seasons andthere's seasons for a reason.
So God designed seasons andthere's seasons for a reason.
So if we look at it in quartersor seasons, then we sprint to
(01:52):
or get to a specific milestone,which would be the end of the
quarter.
And yeah, we've done strategicplanning and we've done
objectives and goals and thingsof that nature.
But what we're, what we're ableto do, is really set aside time
to look at and say, okay, howare those things going?
(02:13):
And so each quarter and it kindof ties into what we did a
couple episodes ago.
We talked about halftime andhalfway through the year and are
there adjustments that need tobe made and all those different
things.
So last episode was really moreabout leadership and business,
and today is going to be more ofleadership in life, like how
(02:36):
are we leading our families andhow are we doing it?
If we're going to do it in abusiness setting, then we've
really got to model that in ourown personal lives.
So that's kind of what we'regoing to do it in a business
setting, then we've really gotto model that in our own
personal lives.
So that's kind of what we'regoing to break down today, yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
And that's always exciting to jump into because
you know one of the things youhave to think about, whether
you're a business owner, creator, whatever it is.
I mean, as we jump into some ofthese rhythms, I know we're
about to look at.
You know yourself, yourpersonal life, your, your family
, but I mean if you're notfeeding yourself and you're not
taking care of yourself and andyou know, and not to dive into
(03:10):
like the the deep of that but ifyou're not taking care of
yourself mentally, spiritually,physically, I mean it's going to
wear on you to the point whereyou're not going to be able to
perform and you're not going tobe able to succeed.
So I know personally, for methis is one of the things I've
shared with you guys, I've got,I'm trying to figure out too and
work through.
So I'm excited to jump intothese topics and just hear from
you guys and what you'veexperienced and really what our
(03:33):
listeners can take from it.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Yeah, I think the uh, I think the core idea here is
sometimes is and I'll, we'lljust go from a I mean, this is a
leadership podcast.
So from a leadershipperspective, a lot of times we
worry or think about ourorganizations and we really
don't think about ourselves.
And so obviously we quote JohnMaxwell in here a lot, and Benji
(03:57):
and I actually heard this a lotgrowing up from our own father.
But he would say, guys, youcan't give what you don't have.
And we and we've talked aboutthis before on the show but you
know John Maxwell's law of thelid is you can't if your
organization is only going togrow as far as you grow.
So you have to, from a personalperspective, is we have to give
(04:20):
ourself time to be filled up.
We have to give ourself time tobe filled up right.
And so from a biblicalperspective, if you look at even
in Matthew, in the book ofMatthew, where Jesus starts his
sermon on the mount, he startsit by saying blessed are the
poor in spirit, for they willreceive the kingdom of God,
(04:41):
kingdom of heaven.
And so really, what he's sayingthere is you've got to empty
yourself, poor in spirit.
Okay, empty yourself so thatyou create that posture, but you
give yourself the capacity toallow God to fill you up,
because if he doesn't fill youup, you've got nothing to offer.
You've got nothing to give.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Yeah, you bring up a good point there too, that
sometimes we're going through aseries at our church right now
called Identity, and our pastorbrought out a mirror and he said
look, the first thing we haveto do with identity is figure
out.
We have to take a reflection.
Look at yourself in the mirror.
If you're looking in a lake anda pond, you're always going to
see a reflection for the mostpart, unless it's dark outside,
(05:23):
and then even in you're going tosee a shadow of yourself.
So you still see a reflection,no matter how you look at it.
Right, and if we always take alook at ourselves and figure out
, you know where we're trying togo, where we're trying to get
in.
Yes, adam, you do have to haverest.
We're going to be talking aboutthat soon today.
You have to make, you have tomake time for that.
And um, because it's it's, youget caught in the grind and you
(05:44):
get caught in your rhythm, butsometimes you can get out of
rhythm even being in rhythm.
So just just think about that.
That you know, get yourself inthat personal rhythm.
Brady's talking about Um, youcan't give what you don't have,
and man, I've learned thatprobably the last three years
more than ever.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
So look, so look in that good.
I mean, that's really good,benji, good perspective when we
look at it as a leader or evenin our family life, and we
talked about this last episode.
But when you get out of rhythmyou're on the verge of burnout,
you're on the verge ofexhaustion.
So you have to give yourselfsome type of rhythm.
(06:24):
For me and we've talked aboutC12 before but C12 gives me this
rhythm, for me from a personallevel, because I have some other
men that I'm accountable toevery month.
I was just there yesterday andpart of the C12 model was
something called the balancewheel.
I'll just walk through thesereal quick.
(06:44):
But the balance wheel I'maccountable to other people for
these different areas in my life.
So my walk with God, marriageand family how am I discipling
others?
Personal finance, biblicalcommunity, fun and recreation,
fitness and nutrition, rest andretreat, you know.
And then my walk with God.
I walk with God.
We already said that, but youknow I'm accountable to these
(07:06):
different areas and it's actualwill.
So, like yesterday, my will was, if you look at it, it was like
a flat tire, because there weresome areas I was real heavy in
or I'd scored real well in, fromzero to 10.
And there were other, wereother areas that that I needed
some improvement on, and so thatthat's a rhythm for me to say,
(07:29):
okay, well, let's look at uh,we'll pick on one like like rest
and retreat I'm not good atrest and retreat.
I mean I'm like let's go.
You know, go, go, go, go, go.
What's the next thing?
What do we need to be doing?
I've got to be able to givesome capacity, um, you know, to
my wife, to my kids.
And uh, I remember, uh, actually, one of the guys in our group
(07:51):
we were talking about marriageand family and specifically
marriage, and uh, one day hetalked about three D's in
marriage and we were like, okay,what, what's three D's?
He said, well, if you want astrong marriage, then you want
to discuss daily.
Okay, so have a conversationwith your wife every day.
You know like intentional time,date, date, weekly.
(08:12):
So physically go out on a date,take her to dinner.
You know you plan it that typeof thing and then depart monthly
and it's like get, get away for, you know, a day or a weekend
or something.
But that's a rhythm thatactually Melissa and I have been
doing for a little while andit's very helpful All those
other areas are ones and you'renot going to get them all good
(08:35):
at the same time, but it's goodfrom me from a monthly
perspective is to look back andsay, hey, how am I doing in
these areas?
What are the things over thenext month that I need to try to
work on and improve?
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Yeah, and to your point, you're taking a
reflection of yourself, right,you're trying to make sure that
you stay on, you stay on track,but you got to give yourself
time to get that, that planningin.
Whether it's your family, youknow, whether it's your business
, whatever, you've got to makesure you get that time for
planning because sometimes, eventhough our calendar might quote
be filled up, is it filled upwith the right things and the
right activities?
So you've got to take a take areflection of that yep.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
So so you know, from a, I guess, a practical
standpoint, if you look atsomewhat of a like a quarterly
reset, you know, can you, likebenji said, can you book it out
on your calendar to go away forthe day, you know, just have
some strategic time.
Or on a Saturday I know it'stough right now, probably
because there's, you know,college football and things like
(09:33):
that going on but can you getaway with your wife and, just,
you know, focus on your marriageor focus on some things that
you need to improve on, I know.
Another big one for me is andI'm still trying to figure out
how to get this right, and Idon't know necessarily if
there's a right way but theBible is very clear about
Sabbath and how do we Sabbath,how do we rest?
(09:57):
God did it himself.
He worked for six days and thenthe last day he rested.
So if, if, if, he thought itwas important, then we probably
need to to do something there,and I and I haven't, I haven't
mastered that one yet.
I think that's going to takesome time for me to um, but what
do you, what do you guys do Imean as far as, like a, a rest
and retreat or uh um a quarterlyreset.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Well, I know for.
So we're off Fridays andSaturdays, and so one of the
things that we've tried to domore because you know, the girls
have school on Friday Emily,emily works on Fridays.
So one of the things I try todo is, either one, I'm booking
clients on Fridays, whether it'sphoto shoots, video shoots,
things like that, if I'm workingwith you guys on Fridays, I
feel that because they'rethey're, you know, they're not
there, I like, for me, I don'tget the rest just being at home,
(10:48):
like without, like, if I'm notwithout, unless I'm doing
something, you know, honeydewlist, something like that, um,
so we'll do those, but those.
But what I have done is some ofthose Fridays where, um, cause,
typically if I'm working withyou guys, I'm there all day, but
if it's something where I'mworking with a client, I've got
a quick photo shoot.
I always try to take thoseFridays and kind of take that
marriage principle and try to atleast go have Emily, have lunch
(11:10):
with Emily.
You know, once or twice a month, if I can on a Friday, I'll go
downtown, we'll go find a placeto eat.
But Saturdays have really becomethat for us as a rest day,
because we don't typically haveanywhere to go.
We don't have anything thatwe're doing unless the girls are
involved in some type of sportsor something like that, and
then really that rests ustogether as a family.
(11:30):
So that's kind of what ourprocess has been is using that.
I know personally I need to bebetter about using Fridays.
That's why our work week isscheduled that way, because
technically, saturday to Sundayis a full work day for us.
But that's where my I thinkI've shared that with you guys
before.
That's where my struggle is.
(11:51):
I mean, if somebody calls andwants something, I feel like I
leave money on the table if Idon't take it.
So that's something I'mpersonally having to work
through.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Yeah, I mean, for me it's as Brady said, this time of
year with college football, nflfootball.
You know we've Saturday.
We try to we go down to Auburnor whatever be at the games,
just hang out with the family.
Our oldest is at Auburn now soit makes it a little easier to
get down there more obviously.
But you know, we went downthere a weekend ago and we just
kind of chilled at her place fora half a day.
(12:21):
We didn't do anything, we justkind of sat there, hang out and
um, then Sunday afternoons afterchurch we come in and we'd like
, man, we all crashed for acouple hours, just put the
football games on TV and justsit there and just relax.
Don't open a computer, don'thave your phone, just literally
just just sit there, you know,um, so that's kind of fun.
But um, yeah, and there's timesthat you know, sarah and I'll
(12:43):
try to get away for a weekendand um, we're in a kind of busy
season of life right now, butwe'll try to.
We're going to get back to thathere coming up soon, um, but
it's, it's just, you know how itis when school starts and try
to get the kids back in a grooveand it.
You got work going on, you gotchurch going on, you got
communities going, communitygroups going on, whatever.
So just it.
It does make it difficult, butto your point, brady, we got to
(13:05):
make that time.
You got to make that time torest and relax sometimes.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Yeah, got it, got to be intentional, um.
So here's kind of the thought.
The final thought on on thisparticular section is and this
is kind of a challenge to to usand to you guys that are that
are listening but if I can leavemy company quarterly but I
can't leave myself quarterly, amI in trouble?
Yeah, right, and.
And a lot of times we think,well, you know, it's not about
(13:31):
me, you know those types ofthings, but it's really not
selfish, it's really stewardship.
You know, how are you, how areyou stewarding?
And again, going back to theinitial thought of you can't
give what you don't have.
You've got to be able to learnand to grow so that you can help
others.
So what we want to talk aboutnext is really so that we just
(13:53):
talked about how to lead ourselfand get into that quarterly
rhythm.
Now we extend it to the family.
So how do we do that well as afamily?
How are we stewarding ourfamilies?
And, um, they, they need rhythmas well.
You know we go through, we gothrough different seasons of, I
know, um, a friend of mine wewere just talking about a C12
(14:15):
yesterday.
You know they, they docompetitive soccer and it's it's
busy in the spring and in thefall.
So what do you do in the in thesummertime, you know?
Are you enjoying other things?
Are you having more of arestful season or busy?
And I know people that play,like travel softball and travel
baseball.
But how do you get into aquarterly rhythm?
(14:35):
But also, how do we lead ourfamilies in such a way that I
remember somebody tellingMelissa and I one time that
we're not really raising kids.
You know, we're raising futureadults, so how are we preparing
them to go out into the worldand to, to, to live?
(14:56):
And I mean one thing that that,uh, that we started doing
recently is really thinkingabout.
And I was challenged with thenext hundred years, the next
five generations, like what isthe fifth generation from from
our family going to look likeand how are they going to
perceive, you know, what we'vedone and some things that we've
(15:17):
set up.
So we we actually started doinglike a family board meeting, um,
and we'll we'll meet month,monthly, but really on a
quarterly rhythm, to to teachlike core principles of
stewardship and financial andbudgeting and organization, and
you know those types of things,cause I I guess the realization
that I had was I'm doing that atwork.
(15:40):
You know I'm mentoring peopleon how to do this stuff, but am
I really mentoring my own kidsof how to do that?
And I've got a 20-year-old thatjust got married and I've got a
17-year-old that's going tograduate this year.
So that's been like a personalconviction of mine of how am I
handing these things down to myown family?
(16:02):
If I'm going to do it in work,I need to do it with my family
too.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
That's, that's a good .
That's a good point, cause youknow, we're going through a
season right now with our son.
It's a it's a good season,don't get me wrong, but I'm
always wanting to do this to avehicle or try this with a
vehicle and put subs in andchange tires and do this.
I've been there.
I mean, youtube is the answerfor those parents out there
listening right now.
They seem to think that YouTubeis the fix-all, be-all for
(16:28):
everything that you have.
So if YouTube says you can doit, you can do it.
You know, oh yeah, but you lookup and the oil cap is missing
and you know why is the oil low?
Oh, there's your problem rightthere.
So why is the Ola?
Oh, there's your problem rightthere.
So to your point um, we getcaught up.
In these year, I would say ayear ago, man, we really had a
struggle with our son just totry to look.
(16:48):
Every time you do something,you're breaking it, every time
you do this.
So I had to.
I'm trying to change mymentality to get in that
quarterly rhythm for him, cause,as you guys know, every kid's
different, right.
I mean they all, they alladjust and adapt to different
things and, um, trying to tellthem look, if you'll take care
of this, this is what it willbenefit you in the future.
If you, if you want, if youwant to do this things to your
(17:08):
vehicle, you're going to have totake the time to get a
part-time job to pay for thisCause.
We're not going to, we're notpaying for this, you, you paying
for this.
You have to teach them thoseprinciples.
And then our youngest, of course, again, the oldest is in
college, but the youngest.
We were last night at dinnerand she said Daddy, I'm really
(17:30):
glad that I get to go to churchbecause I get to study the Bible
and she's starting to write herBible verses down, she's
quoting scripture and you get inthat quarterly rhythm with your
family.
And because we did have aseason and Adam knows this,
being in the softball world too.
But, man, we got.
We got so busy with softballand baseball and soccer, and I
said it a minute ago but wefilled the calendar up.
But for the family, you'relooking back, I go.
(17:51):
You know, maybe there was areason they got burnt out on
doing this because I wasprobably pushing it more than
they wanted to do it.
So you got to again, takingthat reflection of yourself but
at the same time, putting themin a position to what matters
most, and what matters most iseternity at the end of the day.
Um, you can again.
You can fill your calendar up,but make sure it matters.
And for those of you that mightbe listening out there, just
(18:12):
encourage you.
You know, if you want to reachout to us, we can give you some
tips and principles of how to dothat.
We'd be glad to share it withyou.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
I heard a pastor tell me one time if the devil can't
get to you, he'll use yourschedule to get to you.
Oh for sure, Because he's goingto use that against you and
because he knows if I will, if,if I, if I can have their
schedule filled with these and,you know, keeps them from being
in the word, or it keeps themfrom being in community with
people, or just, you know, keepsthem from being at a church
(18:39):
with their you know, theirchurch family.
That's how I'm going to get tothem, because I'm going to keep
them disconnected, keep themfrom, keep them from being where
they're growing and encouragedby others, and I'm going to use
that against them.
So I've always tried to do that, because we've gone through
that same thing, benji thatschedule.
You know the kids are busy andyou know you, you want to, as a
parent, as a father, as you know, you want to give these kids
(19:02):
the things that they want to do.
You want to let them enjoysoftball, you want to let them
enjoy these things.
But, um, you know that's one ofthe things that we've done and
we've gotten non-negotiables.
You know that's one of thethings we've gone through as a,
and what we've done is we'vecreated a rhythm where I
typically leave the churcharound 3.30 and I go pick up the
(19:22):
girls, emily leaves work atfour and then we go have dinner.
We go meet somewhere downValleydale where the church is.
We've got several options.
We let the girls pick something.
Chick-fil-a hey look, metroDiner.
Metro Diner is one of myfavorite.
But we go and what's nice is weput phones down, we put
everything aside, and so wetypically get there about 4.30.
(19:45):
I don't have to be back to thechurch until about 5.45, 6 to
start prepping and gettingthings ready.
And, man, for that hour we justsit and we have family time
together, we have dinnertogether and we've been doing it
for probably two or threemonths and we've created that
rhythm as a family to say, hey,wednesday nights we're going to
meet up, we're going to find aplace, we're going to go sit
(20:06):
down and we're just going toenjoy talking.
How's our day, how's your weekbeen, what are you doing?
So that's been really good forus.
And then we go to churchtogether, which is great, you
know, if I'm not serving orEmily's not serving, if I don't
have something I've got to do,wednesdays has been really good
for her and I to sit together,because we do a full Bible study
at the church.
We have a full service onWednesday and that's just been
(20:28):
good for us as husband and wifeand for the girls, because we're
getting fed, like you'retalking about, benji, but just
sitting down, because Sundaysfor me it's wild.
I'm running around, I'm runninga team, you know we're fixing,
we're fixing issues, it's justSundays are crazy.
So Emily and I don't get to sitin church together a lot.
So it's like what you'retalking about, brady.
We find those things during ourweek that we can do that.
(20:51):
So Wednesdays has been that forus.
I get to sit with her duringBible study and it's just, it's
just nice to for her and I tohave at least that Wednesday
night, when we know Sundays arecrazy, it's good stuff.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
Yeah, so yeah, just thinking about your family and
we'll, we'll, um, we'll wrap upthis section.
But, um, you know, I'm justreminded of a verse, a verse in
Proverbs that says a good manleaves an inheritance to his
children's children.
And that's not necessarily alot of us may think of.
Well, that's, you know, that'smoney or finances or whatnot,
(21:26):
but it's really not, it's wisdom.
You know Proverbs is wisdomliterature.
So what kind of legacy are youleaving?
What kind of inheritance quoteunquote are you leaving?
And what are you teaching yourkids?
And you know all those things.
But again, it goes back to youcan't, you can't give what you
don't have, so you have to, youhave to do those things yourself
(21:46):
first.
So, whatever that looks likefor you guys, you know, as far
as some type of a quarterlyrhythm with your family, or it
could be monthly or weekly, likeyou guys were talking about.
Whatever it is, it's justsetting aside some time to
reflect and and talk about.
You know what are, what are weexperiencing as a family, or or
(22:07):
what's going on in the world?
Maybe you know some.
Just some conversation I'vebeen, you said put the phones
away and and that's probablyhard for all of us to do.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
It's hard for all of us.
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Yeah, because it's so distracting.
I mean, before the show we weretalking about TikTok, which I
do not have, tiktok, by the way,all right, I think TikTok is of
the devil.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
But there are other.
It's a search engine though.
I know it's a search engine,but you need something.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Apparently, you can shop in there.
Somebody told me about that theother day.
I that the other day I was likeTikTok shop.
Okay, Well, that's interesting.
So what we want to do is, Imean, last episode we talked
about the business part and thisepisode we talked about more of
family and personal type things.
But how do we take all thisinformation and really give you
(22:54):
guys a call to action?
Benji said this, but if youguys need some help, then reach
out to us or give us somecomments.
We'll try to help you inwhatever way that we can do.
Some of you I think we did thisin the last series that we did
but some of you leaders aregoing to be like gung-ho, like,
okay, what do I need to do rightnow?
(23:17):
We're going to go and implementthis tomorrow and that's great.
Some of you may, you know,think about it and kind of
reflect on it.
But whatever you do, at leastdo something, take some type of
action.
So kind of in review is justreally from a quarterly rhythm
type perspective is we want toreview, we want to reset, we
(23:38):
want to recommit, and so what,reviewing the last quarter from
a business perspective?
What are the objectives, that,the goals that we came up with
for the year.
Are they still working?
Do we need to reset any ofthose or refocus on any of those
and then with either yourselfor your team is really a
recommitment.
I don't know about you guys,but, like in our world, three
(24:00):
months is a eternity.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
It is a long time.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Yeah, long time, and so it's almost good to say, okay
, now what do we decide to do?
And let's go back and recommitto those things One thing that
we do in our business and we'llactually do in November, october
, yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Well, we'll do it in November, that's right.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Yeah, but each quarter we actually take our
team offsite.
So we, we, we call it aquarterly offsite so we get away
from, uh, the the hustle andthe grind of the day-to-day in
the office, where there arethose distractions, or hey, can
I meet with you?
Hey, can I, you know, seepeople in the hallway?
We take our team off site.
We, we reflect on the quarterand then we actually go to try
to go do something, somethingfun together.
(24:42):
You know, it doesn't have to belike super expensive.
I mean, I think last quarter wewent and played at a new indoor
putt putt place.
Yeah, for sure, uh, and it wasa lot of fun just seeing some
competition and the team havingsome fun.
Um, but what, what other, whatother wisdom would you guys
offer up as far as action steps,or how do we take action on
(25:04):
what we're trying to do here?
Adam, I'll let you go first.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
I mean, one of the things that we've really been
trying to do lately is justre-evaluate where we're at as an
organization.
I mean, I think I've shared,you know, we're at that point
right now with the church wherewe're moving from mom and pop to
a more larger, well-oiledorganization, a more larger,
(25:33):
well-oiled organization.
And so I think something thatfor us that we're going through
right now, that we need tocontinue going through, is just
evaluating what our processesare.
And so one of the things thatwe're working through is we're
trying to put things in placewhere and it's going to be very
new to the team it's differentfor them, but, like any project
video graphic event has to besubmitted for a.
(25:56):
We have what we call a budgetand project planning tracker,
and this is just one example.
This is just the first stepthat we're doing to kind of look
at those things, and it gave usa chance to step back.
We met with the team yesterdayand said, look, we know this is
going to be like drinking from afire hose, you know, but we're
(26:17):
having to make these stepsbecause we've got to make
changes.
We can't just walk into anoffice and say, hey, do you have
time?
Hey, do you, can you do this?
We've got to really plan thesethings out.
So I think that's somethingthat I would challenge anyone to
look at.
It is reevaluate those and thenreally having those
conversations with your team.
That's something I brought upyesterday.
(26:39):
We've got some things thatwe're working through.
Like our student ministry isvery student led, like it's
awesome, but they lead their ownworship, they lead their own
media team, they lead everything.
But we've got to step back andsay, all right, we haven't had a
meeting in a couple months,just like you said, brady, it's
been probably more than three.
You know, I brought up I said,hey, when we're done with our
(27:00):
big student event next week, weneed to get the student creative
team together and we need tocast some vision.
We need to express some of thechanges we're making, you know,
and have that changes we'remaking, you know, and have that,
because I think if you aren'thaving those sit down vision
casting meetings, you're goingto lose what the point is.
And so I think those everythree months, because I do.
I agree with you guys a hundredpercent.
(27:21):
Three months is 90 days is along time.
A lot of things change.
I mean, think about it Summer's90, summer's, roughly, you know
, two months, three monthsdepending on where you're at.
You've got that, and then kidsget back into school and then
seasons change and then holidaysare here.
I mean, three months is a lot.
That's why I feel likeeverything is really split into
(27:41):
the quarters, because you've gotto look at those things and
evaluate.
So that's somehow a challengeis really making sure that
you're not going more than 90days and looking at things,
because your business, yourchurch, anything that you're in,
to me it should constantly beevolving, because business is
(28:03):
evolving the way things are.
I mean trends, social media,technology.
I mean, think about it how muchwe use ChatG, gpt now for
everything I mean I, I meanhere's adam's, adam's using chat
gpt.
Hey, what's funny is my wife.
If I tell her I use it, she waslike, didn't you get pretty a
hard time about?
Yeah, all the time.
(28:23):
Yeah, thank you, emily, Ireally please don't tell him
this oh, that's, this is makinga social media reel.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
I'm just telling you oh yeah, so.
So just for the record,yesterday I was talking with a
guy and I was like what in theworld did we do without chat,
gpt, like we actually had toresearch stuff, you know.
Now you just type it in andtell it, tells you what it is.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Well, and, and you know, and this is why I say that
I mean like even for me, whenI'm, when I'm billing out
projects and I'm trying tofigure out where that median is
for the right return.
But I also, you know, I use ita lot to say all right, you know
, if I'm making X amount ofmoney and I have these expenses,
how much do I need to set asidefor my federal estimated taxes
(29:00):
from this project?
How much do I need to tithe offwhat I make?
So I mean it is and, like Isaid, I know that's totally off
subject with it, but I mean mypoint is is that things change
quickly and if you're notevaluating those, it's going to
hurt your team in the end.
And then we talked about thisyesterday is our, our job really
(29:21):
as leaders is to try to keepfrom having that burnout?
You know our creative andworship pastor.
She tells us my job is to bemama bear and my job is to
protect the two of you, becauseI know the two of you have a
hard time saying no to the teambecause you want the team to
succeed.
So I need to protect the two ofyou to make sure those things
are, and I think that's our jobas leaders as well.
Yeah, because, especially in myfield, I don't want anyone
(29:44):
having church hurt or beingburnt out, because the church,
especially for creatives hey,can you do this, can you take
these photos?
But I mean, even in thebusiness you guys are in, that
can easily happen.
Somebody could get used overand over for something because
they have a skillset, and soit's just that.
Evaluation for me is where Ifeel like it's so important.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Yeah, I'll just give a quick thing, brady, and we'll
let you wrap it up, but I thinkfor me, it's again taking a
reflection of ourselves gettingin that quarterly rhythm again,
whether it's your business,whether it's your family,
whatever, getting that quarterlyrhythm and try to stay focused
on that and fill your calendaragain with things that are
important, make it, make it,make priorities the priority,
and that's that's what you wantto stick with Cause again.
(30:24):
You don't want to fill thatthing with the wrong uh, the
wrong items that just are busywork.
I'm actually mentoring a guyright now on and we're strictly
talking about how to be betterorganized, using a calendar,
using a task list.
We've met three times and he'stold me he told me this last
week he said man, I never knew Ineeded it like this before,
(30:45):
like this, this, this, and heactually brought, he's bringing
out other challenges that he'spicking up on himself and saying
, man, I really I didn't knowthat I was actually doing this
this way, but now that I'mseeing it on this side, it makes
so much more sense if I juststay focused on that, that thing
, that item at hand.
So really good.
(31:06):
Again, just encouragement stayin that quarterly rhythm.
It's not perfect, but you canget.
You can get there over time.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
Yeah, so just three, three things to kind of wrap us
up.
Uh, one is I think it wasPatrick that said this, but, uh,
when everything is important,nothing is Okay.
So just reflect on that.
When everything is important,nothing is.
So you have to figure out whatthe priorities are, and for us
as leaders, then, what thequarterly reset does is allow us
(31:37):
to again to reflect.
Yeah, I was reminded too of andthere's multiple people that say
it different ways but JamesClear, you don't have to get
this all right tomorrow.
Right, he talks about the 1%.
So just try to get 1% betterevery single day, and by the end
of the year it's exponential.
(31:58):
What will happen?
But if you try to go out and doeverything differently tomorrow
, then you're going to getburnout.
You're just going to try tooverachieve and it's just, it's
not going to go.
Well, it's not, it's not goingto happen.
So this whole thing is notabout perfection, okay, it's
more about direction.
(32:19):
And so how are we?
How are we looking at thefuture?
We're reflecting on the past tolook at the future, to see what
do we need to do different,what do we need to change?
Like I said, some of you aregoing to try to go out and do it
tomorrow, and that's great.
Others, you may want to dipyour toe in the water, you know
just, but at least do something.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Or find a mentor, Brady.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
That's a great point.
Find somebody that can helpwalk you through this.
If you don't know how to do it,then find somebody that will
help you.
Maybe somebody in your church,maybe somebody in your
organization, your business.
There are people out there thatwant to help you.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Yeah, I had a funny story, totally separate.
You're talking about mentor,our pastor's daughter.
She's kind of like my righthand person at the church, she's
our social media coordinator,and Emily and I were just
sitting last night watching TVand I got a voice memo for her
and she was like, hey, this iskind of random.
And she was like but I justwant to brag for you for a
moment.
She said I have a friend that Isaw posted something and I
(33:21):
guess she you know she broke hercamera, like she put it in a
bag.
And she was like I just want totell you like, thank you for
teaching me to like protect mycamera and stuff.
She was like, cause, when shefirst started doing it, I was
like I said, kate, you need togo, you need to go buy an
expensive bag.
So you want to buy for a $3,000camera and put it in a $20
camera bag that you bought offAmazon.
I said it's an investment and Isaid protect that investment so
(33:43):
that way you can continue tomake money.
And she sent that and I andwhat's crazy is you guys like I
mean I was just telling her likeI had an extra bag.
I said, hey, I'll sell it toyou.
It's an expensive bag but I'llgive it to you for cheaper.
I've got some other nicer stuff.
I said, but you need somethingnice, like you've got to protect
your.
I mean, your camera is yourinvestment, that's where you
make your money and I didn'tthink anything of it.
(34:04):
To me it.
But you don't realize, likethose small conversations as
leaders oh yeah, you like youknow, we're going through a
series right now at the churchcalled everyday influencer and
you don't realize that the smallthings, the small conversations
like that you're having withyour staff, that you're having
with the people like you guysare mentoring or that are
mentoring you, these smallconversations lead to larger
(34:28):
things.
And you know, it was just I toldEmily I was like that it meant
a lot and I just didn't thinkabout something as small as like
, hey, put your camera in a nicebag, like protect it, that she
would see that she was like hey,just thank you for like
mentoring me and teaching methese things, because I'm
learning, the things that I'mbuying, I need to protect and I
need to, I need to use those.
(34:48):
So I just I thought that wascool.
When you're talking aboutmentor and the things that you
do.
You don't realize that thesesmall conversations, it creates
this rhythm that you're talkingabout and what it's going to do
for your business and for youpersonally.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
Yeah, and Adam, if you, if you would like me to
mentor you how to use chat GPT,I'd be glad to.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
I'll be honest with you.
I might be able to run circlesaround you a little bit now.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
Oh for a challenge there, buddy.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
Look, we got some stuff coming up.
I need you to teach me anyway,so well.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
As Brady said, just remember, rhythm is not about
perfection, it's about direction.
Just want to say thank you allfor tuning in to another episode
of higher up podcast.
Again, you can check us out onany social platform at higher up
podcast.
You can subscribe at the higherup podcast dot com.
We would love for you to sharethis episode, maybe with someone
that may be looking for amentor, maybe looking to get in
(35:36):
that rhythm, uh, or justconfused on how to even get in
the rhythm, uh.
Share this with someone and uh.
We just want to say again thankyou so much for tuning in and
go out and choose to live ahigher up life.
See you next time.
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