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Another week, another first amendment fight is going on in the US.  What are your thoughts on the Jimmy Kimmel suspension and subsequent reinstatement?  Do you think it violates his 1st amendment right to free speech?

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SPEAKER_02 (00:02):
That's him.

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And that's her.

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And this is our time.

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Join us with a cup of coffee, maybe a bloody Mary,
or even a glass of wine.
As we chat about the adventures,the encounters, and all-around
chaos of our life.

SPEAKER_02 (00:21):
Hello.
Happy day.
Happy day.

SPEAKER_00 (00:24):
Happy day to you too.
What a week.
What a week.
Goodness.

SPEAKER_02 (00:31):
I feel like we say that every week.

SPEAKER_00 (00:33):
It has been like that every week.
It's been crazy every week.

SPEAKER_02 (00:37):
Right.
It's craziness in the US of A.
Um.
First of all, can we start abouthow when Trump was at the UN?

SPEAKER_00 (00:49):
Oh my gosh, yes.

SPEAKER_02 (00:51):
Let's see here.
The escalator broke.

SPEAKER_00 (00:53):
Right as he right as Melania stepped on with her
heels.
And him.
I mean, and it had worked foreverybody else right before
that.
Right.
And the one right next to himwas working.
It was going up, and theirs wasgoing up, and then right when
they got on it, it just stopped.
And they had to walk the rest ofthe way.
And then what and then the umthe microphone was very turned

(01:16):
down low, and the person thatwas just before him had full
volume and everything, and itwas turned down low, and then
his teleprompters went off whenthey were working fine for the
person before.

SPEAKER_02 (01:30):
Which surprises me that he even uses a
teleprompter.

SPEAKER_00 (01:34):
Well, he has to so he can stay on point.
You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02 (01:37):
No, I don't know what you mean because he doesn't
ever stay on point.
And he always just, you know,goes off rail.
So I figure he doesn't use it.
I mean, he probably has ateleprompter for, you know, the
main points.
But then he just goes off andsays whatever he wants to say
whenever he wants to say it.

(02:00):
He's got no filter.

SPEAKER_00 (02:01):
No, but it I mean, I just thought that was ridiculous
that all that took place, themjust trying to trying to go
against what the United Statesis standing for, you know.
And then I mean, and then we hadto deal with the whole Jimmy
Kimmel thing, which I mean, I'msorry, but y if you are an

(02:24):
employee of a company and youare costing that company money,
I mean, revenue, the whole bit,then you need to be fired.
And that's exactly why JimmyKimmel was canned, his show was
canned because for a week.
Right, but it was not going tobecause of what it was losing

(02:47):
money.
And then they caved and itallowed him to come back.
I mean, it's not freedom ofspeech.
That was not the issue.
They wanted to make it thatissue.
They wanted to say that that'swhat it was because, but it was
actually because the same thingwith Corbert, because the
ratings were down on their show,because they're losing money,

(03:08):
you know, and they just I I justdon't understand it.
What are your thoughts on it?

SPEAKER_02 (03:12):
Well, I think uh originally he was, you know,
putting time out because of whathe said about Charlie Kirk.

SPEAKER_01 (03:23):
Right.

SPEAKER_02 (03:23):
Um so I think originally that's what it was.
And again, it's it had nothingto do with freedom of speech.
Yes, you are free to sayanything you want without fear
of prosecution.

SPEAKER_01 (03:36):
Right.

SPEAKER_02 (03:37):
But you're not free from the consequences of your
speech.

SPEAKER_01 (03:40):
Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 (03:41):
And so so many people obviously called their
local ABC affiliates complainingabout what they heard, and you
know, com so the the affiliatespulled it.
Went to ABC and said, you know,we're not gonna air it.

SPEAKER_00 (03:55):
We're not gonna air a show.

SPEAKER_02 (03:57):
Right.

SPEAKER_00 (03:57):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (03:58):
So it's you know, I mean it's and and I don't know
if I mentioned this last time,but you know, people 30 years
ago, comedians, you know, and Isay that very loosely, would
would not say the horrible,awful things that Jimmy Kimmel

(04:18):
has been saying.
You know, Johnny Carson never,you know, he made fun of.
And there's a there's adifference between making fun of
and then saying horrible, awfulthings.
And I'm saying both sides aredoing it.

SPEAKER_00 (04:30):
Right.
Well, I mean, my whole thing isa talk show, I mean, like a a an
evening talk show or just a talkshow should be equal to both
sides.
You know what I mean?
Should not be leaning just oneway and and and saying
everything just one one-sided.
I mean, it should be neutral, itshould be a neutral uh property

(04:51):
that allows both sides or bothpeople or different opinions to
come on and talk and you knowand and say what they want to
say.
But all these late-night talkshows have completely gone away
from that.
It is not uh, you know, anactual talk show.
It is this is my opinion, andyou're gonna listen to it

(05:12):
because you're watching my show.
You know?

SPEAKER_02 (05:15):
I mean, I wonder what happens if people go to sit
in the audience of the JimmyKimmel show and he starts
bashing Trump or bashingRepublicans and someone in the
audience like booze him orsomething.

SPEAKER_00 (05:28):
I wonder if they like I don't think they let him
in, honey.
I really don't.
I do not think that they letthem in.
You know how it was when we weretrying to get tickets to go to a
any of those shows and to beseen, and they have to, you
know, pick and choose.
Just like going to Good MorningAmerica when we went to that,
you know.
We were what fifth in line,sixth in line, and we got the

(05:49):
crappiest seats where we werewhere we were sitting, which I
mean is just ridiculous.
There goes our little children.

SPEAKER_02 (05:57):
Mm-hmm.
It's not time to eat.

SPEAKER_00 (06:01):
No, it's not.
But you know, that's the that'sthe thing.
I think they I think that theyscreen and find out, you know,
you get your name because theyhave to give you tickets.
You gotta give them your name.
And then it would not surpriseme if they don't go on Facebook,
if they don't go on Instagram,if they don't look up who you
are and and where you're whatyou represent, and then oh,

(06:23):
you're not getting tickets, oryou're you're you know, you're
not getting in, or we're gonnaput you in a bad spot.

SPEAKER_02 (06:28):
Well, if they went and looked at my Facebook or my
Instagram, they would just seeBible verses.
Right, which that's pretty muchall I post anymore.

SPEAKER_00 (06:36):
Which would not get us on Jimmy Kimmel because he
does not talk about God at all.
I mean, he is completely againstit.
You know, completely againstreligion.

SPEAKER_02 (06:45):
Did I ever tell you that um I had a uh semi-boss at
work several years ago tell methat she thinks I shouldn't post
so much religion and Biblestuff.

SPEAKER_00 (06:59):
Oh, yeah, I remember you telling me that.
Yeah.

unknown (07:01):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (07:02):
I was like, hmm.
She goes, you might turn offsome people.
I'm like, you know what?
That's a huge part of who I am.
Right.

SPEAKER_00 (07:09):
And you know what?
If I turn them off, hey, I don'tneed them around.

SPEAKER_02 (07:12):
Exactly.
If they don't, yeah, if theydon't want to do business with
me because I post a Bible verse.
Oh well.

SPEAKER_00 (07:17):
Right, exactly.

SPEAKER_02 (07:17):
I don't want to do business with them.

SPEAKER_00 (07:19):
Exactly.
Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 (07:21):
And if you're anything, you're probably doing
something sneaky.

SPEAKER_00 (07:23):
And if you're gonna try to tell me I can't do
something on my own private timein my own private life as a as a
a boss, then I've got issueswith you.
Right.

SPEAKER_02 (07:34):
Well she she didn't do that.
She just said, I wouldn't dothat.
I'm like, well, I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_00 (07:39):
Well that's telling you, that's telling you to be
watch what you're saying, andthen there throws out the the
freedom of speech.
You know?
I mean it's the same thing withCharlie Kirk.
He had freedom of speech.
He was able to talk his opinionand have other people
communicate their opinion andtry to prove him wrong and him,

(08:00):
you know, try to prove themwrong.
But I mean, why should he bekilled over it?
Why should he be shot over it?
I mean, it's just ridiculous.
You know, and and look at alllook at all the stuff that is
happening right now.
It's like there's shootingshappening every single day.
You know?

SPEAKER_02 (08:19):
Have you do you listen?

SPEAKER_00 (08:21):
I know you don't watch anything.
No, I don't watch anything.
No.

SPEAKER_02 (08:26):
But I mean, you're on YouTube a lot.

SPEAKER_00 (08:28):
No, I'm not on that, not not that kind of YouTube.

SPEAKER_02 (08:31):
I mean, have you listened to Candace Owens?
Do you know who Candace Owensis?

SPEAKER_00 (08:36):
No.

SPEAKER_02 (08:36):
Okay.

SPEAKER_00 (08:37):
No.

SPEAKER_02 (08:37):
So she is a conservative commentator.
Um, I don't necessarily knowthat she was on any uh news
shows.
Um, but she is I don't know, youneed to look you need to look
her up.
She's a big conspiracy theorist.
She she does a like a YouTubepodcast thing like Megan Kelly

(08:58):
does.

SPEAKER_01 (08:59):
Okay.
Um I like Megan Kelly.

SPEAKER_02 (09:01):
So and well, Megan Kelly's kind of drinking the
Kool-Aid that Candace Owens istalking about.

SPEAKER_01 (09:07):
Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_02 (09:08):
Candace Owens has been saying that there's a
conspiracy and Charlie Kirk wasnot killed by that 22-year-old.
Um, and she's a conservative, soit's not like she's, you know,
you know, left-wing crazy.
She's right wing crazy.
But she she she's like donevideos where she is slowed down

(09:29):
and she says that she thinksthat the bullet has come from
below him, and there was a uhlike a manhole cover type thing
that was below the stage thatthe bullet came up from, and now
that's all been and I I did Idid see that they have now like

(09:52):
concreted over the entire stagewhere he was at.
Like they've, you know.
So I don't know if there was amanhole thing there or not.
But she says this, you know,this 22-year-old kid has, you
know, 100% proclaiming hisinnocence.

SPEAKER_00 (10:09):
And then why was he on the roof?
Why did he come run why did hecome running after the shot was
done?
Why did he come running away?
Why did he jump down?
Why did he have a gun sittingright there?
Why is his fingerprints on thegun where it was hidden by the
tree?
I mean, that's the problem withconspiracy theorists.
They don't think abouteverything.
If you and I hate it, but I d Ididn't expect to watch the

(10:31):
video, but it popped up whenwhen I was, you know, there and
it just kind of but if you watchhow he falls back to the left,
there's no way a bullet comingfrom the bottom would cause him
to to go back and to the left.
It would cause him, if it cameup from the bottom, it would
cause him to go up into his seatand fall backwards, not go to

(10:53):
the left and backwards like it,like it did from shooting him in
the neck and coming from theangle that that that that kid
was at.
I mean, there's no there'sthat's the thing.
I mean, they have footage of himrunning from the from the um
rooftop.

SPEAKER_02 (11:09):
They have footage of somebody running from the
rooftop, yes.
They don't have any clear well,they have not shown us clear
footage that it is this person.
And they have said that hisfingerprints were on that gun.

SPEAKER_00 (11:23):
And on the bullets.

SPEAKER_02 (11:24):
They've said that.

SPEAKER_00 (11:26):
They did forensics on it.

SPEAKER_02 (11:28):
Well, yes, but again, if it's a conspiracy
thing like JFK, I mean, whoall's involved?
I I'm just throwing a differentthing out there.
I'm just talking points.

SPEAKER_00 (11:37):
Right.
I understand.
I understand, but that's theproblem that happens with our
world is we can't just acceptthe visual and the things that
are there.
We have to add things, we haveto tweak stuff, we have to, we
have to, you know, come up withour own thoughts and process on
certain things, and that's justI mean, whatever.
Whatever.

(11:58):
I'm not if that's what if that'swhat she's dealing with and
that's her conspiracy theory,then I won't be paying attention
to that.
Because I don't that just Idon't believe in that crap.
I mean, especially when theyhave the DNA and all that stuff.
And I mean, what are we supposedto believe?
If they say they have it and andthey're they're showing that

(12:20):
they have it, I mean, I'm I'mnot the doctor, I'm not right
there looking at the report, soI have to take a a word about
it.
You know?
I mean, what's how's she gonnaprove?
How's she gonna prove hertheory?
You know?

SPEAKER_02 (12:32):
I mean I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 (12:35):
It just the whole thing is just wrong.

SPEAKER_02 (12:39):
You know, there's so much stuff that I'm I'm okay
with just being ignorant aboutand not knowing.
You know, exactly you know, Idon't want to know what all the
government knows and is hidingfrom us.
No, well, I mean not not notjust not not saying this, but in
general.

SPEAKER_00 (12:57):
Well, the thing that got me is it was a blip on the
on the news before all theCharlie Kirk and everything else
happened, but there was a in Iguess it was uh at a a hearing
or whatever, but there was anadmiral stating that we had just
shot down a UFO, a tic-tac.

(13:19):
We had just shot it out of thesky, and you didn't hear
anything else abore more aboutit.
I didn't hear that at all.
Yeah, I mean that that poppedup.
I mean it came up on the news,and then it was and then it was
like didn't hear another thingabout it.
Which that, you know, gets me.
It's like we just had a uh Ithink it was a Tomahawk missile
that actually took it out of theout of the sky.

(13:41):
They were able to to lock ontoit and shot it out of the sky,
and they said it came up out ofthe water, and they, you know,
and all this stuff, and then youdon't hear anything about it.

SPEAKER_02 (13:51):
I don't like it.
I don't like it when people saywhen when big things happen,
what is the government trying todistract us from?

SPEAKER_00 (14:00):
What are they trying to hide?
Right, exactly.

SPEAKER_02 (14:02):
I mean like by by you saying that, there are some
people who will probably say,Well, they made this Charlie
Kirk assassination happen totake us away from that UFO
story.
There I'm sure there are somepeople who would say that.

SPEAKER_00 (14:15):
I'm sure they would.
Right.

SPEAKER_02 (14:16):
So I don't I don't like again.
But I mean I'm I'm happy to beignorant about a lot of the
stuff.

SPEAKER_00 (14:24):
Right.

SPEAKER_02 (14:24):
Does it affect me today here in my little house
living with you and the animalsand going to work every day?
No.
So I'm I'm fine, you know.

SPEAKER_00 (14:34):
But I mean down the road, who knows?

SPEAKER_02 (14:36):
You know like the whole show 24 to think if all
that stuff happens, like do wehave a Jack Bauer in our
country?
God hope we do.

SPEAKER_00 (14:44):
I hope we have a couple of them.

SPEAKER_02 (14:46):
But if we have a Jack Bauer in our country who
like literally saves us from thebrink of destruction.

SPEAKER_00 (14:54):
Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_02 (14:56):
And we know nothing about it.

SPEAKER_00 (14:58):
Right.

SPEAKER_02 (14:58):
I'm totally fine with that.

SPEAKER_00 (15:01):
Yeah, until it hits us on the front door.
Until it shows up on our frontdoorstep.
But yeah, it's we we need to getup.
But I mean it's the same thinglike with this Kimmel, this, you
know, Kimmel thing.
You know, I mean, that couldhave been a distraction, you
know, who knows?
But yes, I agree.
We need to get a bunker.

(15:22):
We need to get some land so thatwe can build an underground
bunker just to be safe, youknow, and just to be able to
live off the grid.

SPEAKER_02 (15:32):
What was that movie we watched with Neil McDonough?

SPEAKER_00 (15:36):
Um Homestead.

SPEAKER_02 (15:37):
Homestead.

SPEAKER_00 (15:38):
And it was a it was a movie, but then they made it
into a TV show.
So it has two seasons on it.
But you know, we haven't watchedit.
Well, you have to have Angel TV.
You have to get you have to geta special a special um what is
it?
Uh subscription.
Subscription to a a different adifferent thing.

SPEAKER_02 (15:59):
Which people, it is that time of the year again
where we are going through ourbills and our finances to say
what do we need?
Do we need all of this?
Do we need Disney?
Do we need Hulu?
Do we need Peacock?

SPEAKER_00 (16:17):
Do we need Peacock?

SPEAKER_02 (16:18):
Do we need all of these things?

SPEAKER_00 (16:21):
Well, yeah, but I mean you start coming down to it
like we need Amazon Prime, weneed to do it.
You know, because that thatcomes with, you know.

SPEAKER_02 (16:30):
Well, does the does Prime TV come with our Amazon
Prime subscription?

SPEAKER_00 (16:34):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (16:35):
Okay, well then we've already got it.

SPEAKER_00 (16:36):
But you don't have the extra stuff, you know, that
comes with it.
You know, like Hulu.
We decided to get rid of cable,you know, like Time Warner and
and Direct TV and Dish Networkand all that to go to having
local channels, right?
Right.
We went to we got rid of that tohave local channels, and so that

(16:58):
we could have local channelswhile we're traveling or while
we're, you know, out and about.
And that's where Hulu, you know,live TV comes in, Hulu Plus with
live TV.
I mean you could do you could dothe the YouTube, you know, live
TV, but I don't I I mean that'sjust a thing that that gets me

(17:20):
is all that expression.

SPEAKER_02 (17:22):
I mean there's so much I mean every single thing
has their own streaming service,you know, and you know, in
Paramount, and uh it justthere's all sorts of things and
what do we need?
Right.
I mean, can we can we if we gotrid of it, could we watch it the
next day on if we didn't haveyou know the live TV, could we
watch it the next day onsomething?

SPEAKER_00 (17:42):
I d I mean I d I not all the things that we watch.
Right.
I mean, seriously, not all thethings that we watch.
I mean, so you're talking aboutyou're talking about your you
know the today show in themorning, you wouldn't be able to
watch that at all.
You wouldn't be able to watch itat all.
They have clips, they havelittle clips, they don't do a
whole a whole episode.

SPEAKER_02 (18:02):
Like, could I like Google it and put it on TV and
watch it?
No.

SPEAKER_00 (18:07):
Okay, well I mean that's the thing I'm saying, you
know.

SPEAKER_02 (18:10):
I just miss the days when we had four stations.

SPEAKER_00 (18:15):
I don't miss I don't miss those days because it's you
know technology has advanced,but it is definitely like gotten
to the point where there's justso much to have to keep track
of.
And I mean, half the time Iforget like what sh what station
we're or what uh streamingservice we're watching what show

(18:38):
on.

SPEAKER_02 (18:38):
Remember we had to have a cheat sheet next to our
next to our chair in the livingroom for the longest time?
I know because we're like whatcrazy we don't know what it's
on.

SPEAKER_00 (18:45):
We have no idea.

SPEAKER_02 (18:47):
But I remember you were flipping through or it was
on oh it was on the Today showlast week.
They were saying that um youwere talking about technology is
coming so much.
A lot of car manufacturers arereversing and not having and and
putting buttons back in theircars.
So it's not like touching likeactual buttons dials and buttons

(19:09):
and not touch screen.
Exactly.
Because first of all, once itbreaks, it's so expensive to fix
the stuff.

SPEAKER_00 (19:16):
Oh, I know, and and one thing breaks, and you have
to you have to replace so muchmore.
And for me, I mean I startthinking about if I can't touch
a dial or if I can't touch aknob, I mean, AI can take over.
AI can take over our cars.
You know, which don't get mestarted on AI.

SPEAKER_02 (19:35):
And if it's me, it's technology, it's gonna break and
not work.

SPEAKER_00 (19:40):
That's true.
That's true.
Because it just doesn't work.
It doesn't work with you.
You have some kind of aura aboutyou that technology just maybe
magnetic fries on itself.
I just need to stick you in aFaraday cage.

SPEAKER_02 (19:53):
A what?

SPEAKER_00 (19:53):
A Faraday cage.
What is that?
It's a cage that has wiring andstuff all around it that
protects from EMFs, it protectsfrom outside electrical currents
and things like that.
You put you put like if you'regonna have a cell phone and all
bubble wrap ain't gonna doanything.
Especially if I roll you down ahill, you're gonna pop all the

(20:14):
bubbles and then you're gonna beit'll keep me comfortable.
But then you're gonna haveplastic plastic on you.
I mean, what are you gonna do?

SPEAKER_02 (20:19):
It'll keep me uh busy.
I'm gonna sit there and pop,pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop,
pop.

SPEAKER_00 (20:24):
Goodness, I swear.
Yeah, I can see you and bubblewrap and hear you coming a mile
away.
It's crazy.

SPEAKER_02 (20:31):
I like the sensory.

SPEAKER_00 (20:33):
Yeah.
It makes me but then it but thenit the sensory disappears and
then you're stuck with notanything wrapped around you but
plastic.

SPEAKER_02 (20:44):
Well, our animals are calling to us, so we need to
wrap it up.

SPEAKER_00 (20:48):
Time to eat.

SPEAKER_02 (20:48):
Yes, thank you.
Well, that was him.

SPEAKER_00 (20:50):
And that was her, and this was our time.

SPEAKER_02 (20:52):
Bye, babe.
Bye, hun.
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