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June 27, 2025 50 mins

Feeling like you're never doing enough? You're not alone. In this raw and real conversation, Jodi Congdon sits down with business and boundaries coach Katie Grimes to unpack the toxic productivity loops that birth professionals and agency owners get stuck in. From people-pleasing to feast-or-famine cycles, to never taking a true day off—this episode dives deep into why we feel this way and how to finally shift out of it.

Expect mindset breakthroughs, nervous system hacks, and practical systems that support the doula lifestyle (yes, even when you’re on call or running an agency).

⏱️ Timestamps & Topics:

0:00 – Welcome + Meet Katie Grimes
1:03 – The cycle of not doing enough and how it spirals
2:34 – People-pleasing in birthwork and fixer mode
4:37 – Feast or famine realities for doulas
7:14 – Why so many doulas go back to a 9–5
9:55 – Making it easier for clients to buy from you (systems tips!)
12:20 – Email autoresponders + automations that save hours
14:58 – How to make space for CEO time (and stop overpromising)
17:27 – Why you must give yourself more time than you think
20:52 – Katie’s 4-Line Nervous System Model: Joy to Trauma
25:00 – Level 2 warnings: anxious poops, skipping meals, irritability
28:00 – Quick nervous system reset tools (no, really—just hum)
30:11 – Social media pressure, procrastination, and smart delegation
33:32 – Do doulas really get clients from Instagram? (Spoiler: Not the way you think)
35:19 – Smart networking tips (what to say instead of “can I pick your brain?”)
39:50 – ADHD, stress, and the high of procrastination
42:11 – Breaking the cycle: Thoughts → Feelings → Behavior
45:40 – How our childhood stories influence how we show up in business
48:00 – Start with one small habit shift (not five big ones)

📌 Resources Mentioned:

✔️ Follow Jodi Congdon:

Instagram
Website

Birth + Postpartum Professionals (Facebook Group)

✔️ Create Your Six or Seven-Figure Doula Business:

Birth Boss Society (for Solo Doulas and Agency Owners)

Hip to Heart Birth Boss Academy

✔️ From Solo Doula Business to Agency:
Hip to Heart Agency Program

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