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August 17, 2025 47 mins

Today Luis chats with Dick Schwartz, developer of Internal Family Systems (I.F.S.). Dick started his career as a family therapist. Upon asking the question, "why isn't family therapy working?" he began to develop what has become I.F.S. He learned from being in the field, and from making mistakes, how to tend to the parts of us that are usually frozen in the past. Dick found that when we talk to the inner critic with compassion, the deep healing work unfolds.

Luis asks if Dick's work sprang from a spiritual or clinical place, and how he feels about it now. They discuss their views of "self sabotage", and they delve into the intersection of psychedelics and I.F.S. 

The cherry on top of this black bean brownie is the journey Dick guides Luis on to tend to his own inner critic. If you follow alongside Luis on your own journey, please drop us a comment below and let us know what, or who, you find. 


You can read more about Dick Schwartz, and the IRF Institute, here: https://ifs-institute.com/about-us/richard-c-schwartz-phd


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