October 16, 2025 • 12 mins
We’re alive 😅 promise.
In this update episode, we’re sharing an honest update on life behind the scenes of Honey We Need to Chat podcast: burnout, balance, and big changes ahead.
Between raising four kids, working in the not-for-profit world, and creating content we deeply believe in, we hit a wall. So we’re taking a much-needed season break before coming back refreshed, focused, and ready to level up everything we do.
In this episode:
💬 Why we decided to pause the podcast for a season
🧠 What burnout can look like when you love your work
💰 How we’re navigating creative passion when it’s not yet paying the bills
🎙️ Our hopes for 2025 and what’s next for Honey We Need to Chat
☕ Blair’s “Christmas coffee” cameo (proof of life included)
We’ll be back in February with new energy, strategy, and stories, but in the meantime, we’d love your help.
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🎧 Catch up on past episodes (67+ available) and check out sneaky bonus episodes!
✈️ Coming soon: our America vlog series + Christmas content!
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(00:05):
Honey, we need to chat Hello andwelcome back.
We're alive. We are alive.
I have been putting off making this video for a little while
because I'm very tired. If I'm completely honest, we're
(00:25):
really, really tired. That has actually nothing to do
with the podcast or the vlog. It just has to do with life.
But we've been really tired, probably verging on burnout,
balancing a lot of the pieces that we balance, one being
parents to four kids, 2, both ofus working for dad's group,
which is a not for profit and comes with its own complications
(00:47):
in terms of stability and the scope of work and everything
that you can imagine that comes with a not for profit.
And also trying to figure out how to step into where we're
really wanting to go with our content and with what we can
bring to the world through honey.
We need to chat financially whenit's not yet at a stage where
(01:08):
it's supporting us financially. So it's been a lot to kind of
navigate, but I wanted to hop on, make a quick vlog.
We haven't shown our faces on a vlog for a number of weeks now.
And we also just ghosted you guys from the podcast 2 weeks
ago when we first didn't releaseour Monday episode.
I posted and said, hey guys, we're we're tired.
We had hand, foot and mouth withPatty.
(01:28):
He was home from school for the last two weeks.
So had the kids home from schoolfor school holidays.
It was a lot going on. We turned to each other on
Sunday afternoon and just said, I don't want to record.
I had to prepare the episode andeverything.
I had Reddit stories prepared. You know, I was like, this is an
easy episode, but neither of us could kind of motivate ourselves
to get off the couch and record to not, you know, dive into too
(01:52):
much of the probably not that interesting conversation.
We had a number of things kind of come to a head in terms of
future plans that week, which had really thrown us initially,
but then also has opened up a new direction, which is really
exciting. But part of that direction is
going to be me stepping back from my paid work for a time
(02:12):
while I can really invest in coaching and the podcast and the
content and the resources that we can be bringing to you guys.
So there's going to be a switchover in our schedule where
there'll be a lot more time and resources for me to be putting
towards this content and puttingtowards coaching that has really
been on the back burner and try to really grow these things that
(02:35):
we're very, very passionate about.
And we want to grow them. We want them to be the direction
we're working towards. We've seen the life change that
comes from the content that we're able to produce and the
conversations that we're a part of, and we want that to
continue. We've got really big plans and
dreams about that, but in order to get there, we really need to
put a concerted effort towards growing it.
And at this stage, we're kind ofin survival mode.
(02:56):
So we had some knockbacks, practically speaking, which then
kind of prompted us to get really creative and we're super
grateful for God's direction. And that honestly, it feels like
he kind of made a plan. But that plan does include
exciting progress happening in the future where I will have
more time to put towards everything here.
However, there is a transition period where I have to finish up
(03:17):
what I'm doing handed over well,and then move into that new time
of resourcing and time allocatedto building this stuff up, which
means right now it's not quite there.
So it's now and not yet. So Long story short, all of this
was kind of playing out when we were trying to figure out what
(03:38):
to do. And I just had this moment where
I was like, you know what? This time last year is when we
did a season break for the podcast, while we were removing,
the season break ended up being longer than we anticipated.
And the main issue with that wasthat we had communicated that it
wouldn't be as long and then it ended up being longer, which was
necessary. And so I just was struck with, I
think we need another season break so that we can come back
(03:59):
in the new year refreshed with strategy, with these new
resources behind it, with time behind it to bring what we're
bringing, but hopefully the nextlevel up.
I was making coffee in the kitchen.
It popped into my head. I was like, we need to do a
season break, this sense of deeppeace about that.
And I went and talked to Blair and he's like, yeah, I think we
do need to do that. Then we leaned very far into
(04:19):
it's kind of like getting over AI don't know finish line when
you're just like puffing, Not that I run or know anything
about that, but you're you're running, running, running.
And then when you finally stop, you think, oh, I'll just like,
chill out for a little bit and then get back into it.
But it was so much of like a breath of fresh air and one
thing lifted off of our schedulethat we really leaned into it.
And then it was kind of like impossible to get back up, even
(04:41):
though the episode was already created.
I had said when we first posted about it that we were going to
do one more episode and explain what was going on, finding time,
finding energy. When we had finally taken a
breath, knowing that we were going to be taking a break, it
was really hard to be completelyhonest with you guys.
So that's where we've been the last two weeks.
We've been leaning into this season break.
That's what we're going to be doing, going on a season break.
(05:02):
And instead of telling you that we're coming back in a month or
two, because that would be insane because in a month or
two, it's Christmas, basically, we're going to be coming back in
February. We're going to be coming back
when the kids are back at school, when we're over the
holiday period, when we've had time to settle into hopefully
our new routine in terms of workand time allocation.
And we're going to be coming back.
We are going to be coming back. That first couple of weeks of
(05:23):
actually getting back into it istough.
And I know that from our last season break being like, all
right, let's get this ball rolling again is tough.
But we are coming back and we will be bringing weekly podcasts
back to you guys full of a refreshed energy and focus and
strategy. We really are looking for a way
to build not just the podcast element, but the of resources so
that it is a bit more sustainable for us to continue
(05:45):
in this space because it's something we're so passionate
about, sustainable to continue and grow without it taking from,
I guess all the resources that we already have.
I did some calculations and I reckon the podcast, just the
podcast, not the vlog, takes approximately maybe 15 hours a
week of unpaid stuff. That is a lot of time to put
towards something that's currently unpaid because it's
(06:05):
time that we have to fit around all the other stuff that needs
to be a priority. So that's a long winded way of
saying, sorry, we ghosted you, we are still alive, we're all
good, we are all good, We're notcrumbling.
My mom called me the other day just to check because we had
gone on our break. I actually also deleted social
media from my phone because I just was like, so tired of the
time and energy it's taking fromme.
(06:27):
And it's been such a good move. And she knew I'd done that.
And also we posted a video on the dad's group page of Blair
sharing a little bit about his fatherhood journey.
And he was sharing something a bit tough, an old story that he
was just sharing in one of these, these video calls they
had. Anyway, she knew that we had
taken this break and I was off social media and then she saw
Blair's post and she's like, I just wanted to check you guys
(06:48):
are OK. And we are, We're OK.
In fact, we're really good. We're doing really well and some
good rhythms have been in place.But it's a needed break.
So podcast is going on a break. We've got 67 episodes of content
to refresh. I don't know if you know, but we
have a tonne of extra clips thatwe had had on our Patreon for
the first year and a bit, but we've released now.
(07:10):
You can you can have a listen to.
They were sneaky because they were already uploaded just
privately and then I just released them at some stage in
the last year. If you haven't caught up on
everything or if you haven't seen the bonus episodes that
have gone live, please do scrollthrough and have a look.
If you're really, really cravingan episode from us, The other
thing I would love to ask of youguys, which is a big ask and
(07:31):
it's it's an uncomfortable one, but this podcast is not about
us. It's it's not about Amy and
Blair and it never has been. That's not the motivation for us
doing this. This podcast has always been to
encourage other people in their relationships and be a voice
that's encouraging communicationand strengthening of
relationship. And whether that's for people
that are already in the space and they just love hearing
(07:53):
conversations about relationships thriving, or if
it's for people that are actually in a really rough place
and they're trying to find a wayto build their relationship,
strengthen their relationship. Whatever the case, it's not
about us. We are just, I guess, the
messengers. It's a lot of work on our part,
but we really do view it as a community thing.
So during this break, I would really love to ask for your help
(08:14):
in terms of sharing the podcast,highlighting it with people that
may or may not have heard of it.We would really love for your
support in spreading the news ofHoney.
We need to chat and spreading this to a wider audience, which
is one of our biggest roadblocksat the moment because we're
struggling with time getting it to the new fresh audience of
people that may benefit from it.So during this break, if you
(08:35):
want to partner with us in this,the best thing you can do is
share review. If you haven't yet reviewed on
some of the platforms, please review, put a rating up that's
really helpful. Sharing specific episodes with
people or just sharing about thepodcast on your social media or
in person, any of those things would be extremely helpful.
So that when we do hit the ground running again in
February, we've got a fresh audience of people to benefit
(08:59):
from what's coming out. And this new audience of people,
this 67 plus episodes available to them right now to listen to.
So they've got time. So that would be amazing for us.
We are going to America next month.
That's one of the other reasons we were like, well, we can't
really do a short break because we're going to America next
month, then it's Christmas, thenwe've got kids home for school
(09:20):
holidays and travel for holidaysand then they're back at school.
So realistically, the next threeto four months is going to fly
by, but we're going to America. We will be documenting that.
I'm hoping that because we're not doing the podcast, we'll
have some more time for more content in terms of more
vlogging type stuff. So we won't be gone.
We're still going to be here andour aim is to bring out more
(09:42):
content, but we're not going to put any kind of structure around
what that looks like at the meantime, just because we don't
want to promise again and then let you guys down.
I'm doing this on my own becauseBlair's working, but he is
alive. I asked him to show his face to
prove he's alive, and I have notlocked him in a room in the
house and just kept him away. So he's going to pop his face in
and then I think he's going to make a Christmas drink with you
guys because yes, we are alreadyin the Christmas season.
(10:06):
Thank you for listening. Thank you for being here.
Sorry for ghosting. We will be back.
We are still here. We will be back in a more
official capacity. But we just need a little break.
And I think that's a really good, important thing because as
much as this is a thing that we are our hoping is a resource to
other people, it also still needs to be a resource to our
family and our marriage and our time.
And right now, if we keep pushing through on this when
(10:29):
we're overwhelmed with everything else, we would
probably end up serving the podcast rather than the podcast
helping to serve us as well. So that's where we've been.
We're all good. I'd love to share more about my
getting off social media, actually.
That's been huge. But another time, this has
already been very long. I'm going to call Blair out to
give his little like appearance.So, you know, he's all good.
Blair. Oh, Blair, there you are.
(10:57):
Come here. Come here.
Show the people you're alive. Do you see Blair in the room
now? Is Blair with you?
Hey. Oh, squat down a little more
because I don't know if they cansee you.
Are you alive? I'm alive.
Are you good? Yeah.
Yeah. Are you falling apart?
I'm not uncomfortable. That really hurts, are you?
(11:17):
Are you mentally OK? Yeah, I'm good.
Yeah, why have I locked you in our room?
You have. But I'm mentally OK.
I'm not emotionally OK. I'm telling the people that
we're all good. Oh.
Yeah, we're good, we're good. We're just busy.
We're just busy and we needed a break.
And we just want to do well and do well.
And I think that's the big thingthat we've found is that we just
weren't doing as well as we wanted because we didn't have
(11:39):
the time that was needed to do as well as we wanted.
So he's alive. He's gonna.
Make a Christmas drink. Gonna make a Christmas coffee?
You're gonna. Show it's just a coffee in a
Christmas cup. It's just, but it's Christmassy.
In October. That's the kind of people we
are. All right guys, thanks so much.
We'll chat to you soon. Good chat.
Honey, we need to chat Hello andwelcome back.
We're alive. We are alive.
I have been putting off making this video for a little while
because I'm very tired. If I'm completely honest, we're
(00:25):
really, really tired. That has actually nothing to do
with the podcast or the vlog. It just has to do with life.
But we've been really tired, probably verging on burnout,
balancing a lot of the pieces that we balance, one being
parents to four kids, 2, both ofus working for dad's group,
which is a not for profit and comes with its own complications
(00:47):
in terms of stability and the scope of work and everything
that you can imagine that comes with a not for profit.
And also trying to figure out how to step into where we're
really wanting to go with our content and with what we can
bring to the world through honey.
We need to chat financially whenit's not yet at a stage where
(01:08):
it's supporting us financially. So it's been a lot to kind of
navigate, but I wanted to hop on, make a quick vlog.
We haven't shown our faces on a vlog for a number of weeks now.
And we also just ghosted you guys from the podcast 2 weeks
ago when we first didn't releaseour Monday episode.
I posted and said, hey guys, we're we're tired.
We had hand, foot and mouth withPatty.
(01:28):
He was home from school for the last two weeks.
So had the kids home from schoolfor school holidays.
It was a lot going on. We turned to each other on
Sunday afternoon and just said, I don't want to record.
I had to prepare the episode andeverything.
I had Reddit stories prepared. You know, I was like, this is an
easy episode, but neither of us could kind of motivate ourselves
to get off the couch and record to not, you know, dive into too
(01:52):
much of the probably not that interesting conversation.
We had a number of things kind of come to a head in terms of
future plans that week, which had really thrown us initially,
but then also has opened up a new direction, which is really
exciting. But part of that direction is
going to be me stepping back from my paid work for a time
(02:12):
while I can really invest in coaching and the podcast and the
content and the resources that we can be bringing to you guys.
So there's going to be a switchover in our schedule where
there'll be a lot more time and resources for me to be putting
towards this content and puttingtowards coaching that has really
been on the back burner and try to really grow these things that
(02:35):
we're very, very passionate about.
And we want to grow them. We want them to be the direction
we're working towards. We've seen the life change that
comes from the content that we're able to produce and the
conversations that we're a part of, and we want that to
continue. We've got really big plans and
dreams about that, but in order to get there, we really need to
put a concerted effort towards growing it.
And at this stage, we're kind ofin survival mode.
(02:56):
So we had some knockbacks, practically speaking, which then
kind of prompted us to get really creative and we're super
grateful for God's direction. And that honestly, it feels like
he kind of made a plan. But that plan does include
exciting progress happening in the future where I will have
more time to put towards everything here.
However, there is a transition period where I have to finish up
(03:17):
what I'm doing handed over well,and then move into that new time
of resourcing and time allocatedto building this stuff up, which
means right now it's not quite there.
So it's now and not yet. So Long story short, all of this
was kind of playing out when we were trying to figure out what
(03:38):
to do. And I just had this moment where
I was like, you know what? This time last year is when we
did a season break for the podcast, while we were removing,
the season break ended up being longer than we anticipated.
And the main issue with that wasthat we had communicated that it
wouldn't be as long and then it ended up being longer, which was
necessary. And so I just was struck with, I
think we need another season break so that we can come back
(03:59):
in the new year refreshed with strategy, with these new
resources behind it, with time behind it to bring what we're
bringing, but hopefully the nextlevel up.
I was making coffee in the kitchen.
It popped into my head. I was like, we need to do a
season break, this sense of deeppeace about that.
And I went and talked to Blair and he's like, yeah, I think we
do need to do that. Then we leaned very far into
(04:19):
it's kind of like getting over AI don't know finish line when
you're just like puffing, Not that I run or know anything
about that, but you're you're running, running, running.
And then when you finally stop, you think, oh, I'll just like,
chill out for a little bit and then get back into it.
But it was so much of like a breath of fresh air and one
thing lifted off of our schedulethat we really leaned into it.
And then it was kind of like impossible to get back up, even
(04:41):
though the episode was already created.
I had said when we first posted about it that we were going to
do one more episode and explain what was going on, finding time,
finding energy. When we had finally taken a
breath, knowing that we were going to be taking a break, it
was really hard to be completelyhonest with you guys.
So that's where we've been the last two weeks.
We've been leaning into this season break.
That's what we're going to be doing, going on a season break.
(05:02):
And instead of telling you that we're coming back in a month or
two, because that would be insane because in a month or
two, it's Christmas, basically, we're going to be coming back in
February. We're going to be coming back
when the kids are back at school, when we're over the
holiday period, when we've had time to settle into hopefully
our new routine in terms of workand time allocation.
And we're going to be coming back.
We are going to be coming back. That first couple of weeks of
(05:23):
actually getting back into it istough.
And I know that from our last season break being like, all
right, let's get this ball rolling again is tough.
But we are coming back and we will be bringing weekly podcasts
back to you guys full of a refreshed energy and focus and
strategy. We really are looking for a way
to build not just the podcast element, but the of resources so
that it is a bit more sustainable for us to continue
(05:45):
in this space because it's something we're so passionate
about, sustainable to continue and grow without it taking from,
I guess all the resources that we already have.
I did some calculations and I reckon the podcast, just the
podcast, not the vlog, takes approximately maybe 15 hours a
week of unpaid stuff. That is a lot of time to put
towards something that's currently unpaid because it's
(06:05):
time that we have to fit around all the other stuff that needs
to be a priority. So that's a long winded way of
saying, sorry, we ghosted you, we are still alive, we're all
good, we are all good, We're notcrumbling.
My mom called me the other day just to check because we had
gone on our break. I actually also deleted social
media from my phone because I just was like, so tired of the
time and energy it's taking fromme.
(06:27):
And it's been such a good move. And she knew I'd done that.
And also we posted a video on the dad's group page of Blair
sharing a little bit about his fatherhood journey.
And he was sharing something a bit tough, an old story that he
was just sharing in one of these, these video calls they
had. Anyway, she knew that we had
taken this break and I was off social media and then she saw
Blair's post and she's like, I just wanted to check you guys
(06:48):
are OK. And we are, We're OK.
In fact, we're really good. We're doing really well and some
good rhythms have been in place.But it's a needed break.
So podcast is going on a break. We've got 67 episodes of content
to refresh. I don't know if you know, but we
have a tonne of extra clips thatwe had had on our Patreon for
the first year and a bit, but we've released now.
(07:10):
You can you can have a listen to.
They were sneaky because they were already uploaded just
privately and then I just released them at some stage in
the last year. If you haven't caught up on
everything or if you haven't seen the bonus episodes that
have gone live, please do scrollthrough and have a look.
If you're really, really cravingan episode from us, The other
thing I would love to ask of youguys, which is a big ask and
(07:31):
it's it's an uncomfortable one, but this podcast is not about
us. It's it's not about Amy and
Blair and it never has been. That's not the motivation for us
doing this. This podcast has always been to
encourage other people in their relationships and be a voice
that's encouraging communicationand strengthening of
relationship. And whether that's for people
that are already in the space and they just love hearing
(07:53):
conversations about relationships thriving, or if
it's for people that are actually in a really rough place
and they're trying to find a wayto build their relationship,
strengthen their relationship. Whatever the case, it's not
about us. We are just, I guess, the
messengers. It's a lot of work on our part,
but we really do view it as a community thing.
So during this break, I would really love to ask for your help
(08:14):
in terms of sharing the podcast,highlighting it with people that
may or may not have heard of it.We would really love for your
support in spreading the news ofHoney.
We need to chat and spreading this to a wider audience, which
is one of our biggest roadblocksat the moment because we're
struggling with time getting it to the new fresh audience of
people that may benefit from it.So during this break, if you
(08:35):
want to partner with us in this,the best thing you can do is
share review. If you haven't yet reviewed on
some of the platforms, please review, put a rating up that's
really helpful. Sharing specific episodes with
people or just sharing about thepodcast on your social media or
in person, any of those things would be extremely helpful.
So that when we do hit the ground running again in
February, we've got a fresh audience of people to benefit
(08:59):
from what's coming out. And this new audience of people,
this 67 plus episodes available to them right now to listen to.
So they've got time. So that would be amazing for us.
We are going to America next month.
That's one of the other reasons we were like, well, we can't
really do a short break because we're going to America next
month, then it's Christmas, thenwe've got kids home for school
(09:20):
holidays and travel for holidaysand then they're back at school.
So realistically, the next threeto four months is going to fly
by, but we're going to America. We will be documenting that.
I'm hoping that because we're not doing the podcast, we'll
have some more time for more content in terms of more
vlogging type stuff. So we won't be gone.
We're still going to be here andour aim is to bring out more
(09:42):
content, but we're not going to put any kind of structure around
what that looks like at the meantime, just because we don't
want to promise again and then let you guys down.
I'm doing this on my own becauseBlair's working, but he is
alive. I asked him to show his face to
prove he's alive, and I have notlocked him in a room in the
house and just kept him away. So he's going to pop his face in
and then I think he's going to make a Christmas drink with you
guys because yes, we are alreadyin the Christmas season.
(10:06):
Thank you for listening. Thank you for being here.
Sorry for ghosting. We will be back.
We are still here. We will be back in a more
official capacity. But we just need a little break.
And I think that's a really good, important thing because as
much as this is a thing that we are our hoping is a resource to
other people, it also still needs to be a resource to our
family and our marriage and our time.
And right now, if we keep pushing through on this when
(10:29):
we're overwhelmed with everything else, we would
probably end up serving the podcast rather than the podcast
helping to serve us as well. So that's where we've been.
We're all good. I'd love to share more about my
getting off social media, actually.
That's been huge. But another time, this has
already been very long. I'm going to call Blair out to
give his little like appearance.So, you know, he's all good.
Blair. Oh, Blair, there you are.
(10:57):
Come here. Come here.
Show the people you're alive. Do you see Blair in the room
now? Is Blair with you?
Hey. Oh, squat down a little more
because I don't know if they cansee you.
Are you alive? I'm alive.
Are you good? Yeah.
Yeah. Are you falling apart?
I'm not uncomfortable. That really hurts, are you?
(11:17):
Are you mentally OK? Yeah, I'm good.
Yeah, why have I locked you in our room?
You have. But I'm mentally OK.
I'm not emotionally OK. I'm telling the people that
we're all good. Oh.
Yeah, we're good, we're good. We're just busy.
We're just busy and we needed a break.
And we just want to do well and do well.
And I think that's the big thingthat we've found is that we just
weren't doing as well as we wanted because we didn't have
(11:39):
the time that was needed to do as well as we wanted.
So he's alive. He's gonna.
Make a Christmas drink. Gonna make a Christmas coffee?
You're gonna. Show it's just a coffee in a
Christmas cup. It's just, but it's Christmassy.
In October. That's the kind of people we
are. All right guys, thanks so much.
We'll chat to you soon. Good chat.
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CrimeLess: Hillbilly Heist
It’s 1996 in rural North Carolina, and an oddball crew makes history when they pull off America’s third largest cash heist. But it’s all downhill from there. Join host Johnny Knoxville as he unspools a wild and woolly tale about a group of regular ‘ol folks who risked it all for a chance at a better life. CrimeLess: Hillbilly Heist answers the question: what would you do with 17.3 million dollars? The answer includes diamond rings, mansions, velvet Elvis paintings, plus a run for the border, murder-for-hire-plots, and FBI busts.