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Speaker 2 (00:16):
Welcome to the Hope
Unlocked podcast.
I'm your host, Kristen Kurtz,and I'm also the founder of New
Wings Coaching.
I help and empower wildheartedand adventurous women of faith
feeling caged and stuck, unlocktheir true purpose and potential
, break free from limitationsand thrive with confidence,
courage and hope.
If you're curious to learn moreabout coaching with me, head to
newwingscoachingnet and be sureto explore the show notes for
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ways to connect with me further.
Get ready to dive in as weuncover empowering keys and
insights in this episode.
So tune in and let's unlockhope together.
Welcome to the Hope Unlockedpodcast.
I'm Kristen Kurtz, your host.
I pray this episode is like aholy IV of hope for your soul.
Please help me.
Welcome Sarah Dirks to the show.
I am so incredibly excited tohave her here today.
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We have actually kind of earlyslotted her in for a release
coming up soon because I knowthat this message that she has
to bring today is for now.
It is a now message that needsto get out, and I'm so thankful
for the connection that was maderecently with her at a local
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event.
So, Sarah, before we get intowhat you're going to bring to
the table today and thispowerful message, would you tell
us a little bit about yourself.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Yeah Well, I am a
Minnesota native.
I live here in Lakeville,minnesota.
I'm a mom to two amazing boysthat are in the throes of
baseball season right now.
I am going to be talking aboutserving veterans and first
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responders today.
I'm the sister of a veteran,but I consider myself to be a
battle-tested veteran in God'sarmy for about 23 years, so I'm
coming from that place.
When it comes to you know, thisis this is going to be, this is
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my passion.
Helping people heal isliterally something I've been
doing since I was five years old, and if I'm not doing that or
actually doing work I have to do, you're going to find me in
nature, which is healing initself.
You're going to find me by thewater, near the water, in the
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water hiking, or my veryfavorite is in the sand.
Playing sand volleyball is likeyeah that is my, that is my
happy place.
Sand volleyball near the wateris my happy place, which I have
about 1.5 miles away from here,which oh, that's amazing.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Yeah, yeah, so
beautiful.
Well, I want to go back alittle bit, because you
mentioned you've been helpingpeople heal since you were five
Not something I've ever heardbefore on this podcast so could
you tell us a little bit aboutthat?
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Yeah, go back a
little bit to where this is.
Um, I think I was while I wasin kindergarten and I what I
remember is that I was at a dareconference.
I think you know, like the darepeople come to a dare drugs
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what it means yeah don't dodrugs don't do something like
that, don't.
Yeah, it means.
But it was a dare conferenceand it was about, like, not
smoking.
And the first thing I did wasgo to my grandpa um, my dad's
dad and I basically just said ifyou don't quit that you're
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going to die.
And he quit that day, coldTurkey, never picked up a
cigarette again.
So that was my quick smokingcessation client at five, pretty
effective.
And what's super cool to evenexpand on that is when he was 95
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, my dad hired me as his fitnesscoach because he was about to
be bedridden, refused exercisehis whole life, and he said well
, you can go to the nursing homeor you can work with Sarah.
And he chose to work with me.
And within the next time my dadwent to visit him, he was up
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and out of bed and gettingbreakfast and, like just knowing
there was a solution, gave himthat hope that he was not going
to go to the nursing home and hewas not going to spend the rest
of his life bedridden.
And we got a whole nother yearof another birthday, another
Thanksgiving, another.
He started exercising.
I saw him every single week andthe last time I saw him he was
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doing shoulder presses and hesaid man, this feels good.
Oh my God.
And that was my last encounterwith him.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Man, this feels good.
Yeah, wow, and he was 90 in his90s.
Wow, Isn't that incredible.
So you've got you know.
Did anybody ever tell him thatthat could be an alternative to
give him more time of you know,moving your body and yeah, my
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dad railed on him for yearsabout exercising and he never
wanted to do it.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
He just never got the
motivation until things got so
serious that he was facing beingbedridden for the remainder of
his life.
That was the catalyst that saidhe said, no, I don't want to do
that.
But he could have had a waymore enhanced quality of life
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had he chosen to take that upsooner.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Yeah, well, I think
we can kind of ride into that
pathway with what you just said,because I think there's so many
areas that I know you're goingto bring to the table today that
there are solutions that manypeople don't know about.
That can, you know, revitalizeyour life, that can enhance your
life.
So would you kind of veer in alittle bit to you know, let's go
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back a little bit to you know,maybe back in your twenties.
Like what did that look likefor you?
Um, you at five, you'rebringing smoking deliverance to
your grandpa and then like whatdid that look like as you I
don't at that age if you reallyrealized what that meant?
Um, as you're getting older,what did that age?
If you really?
realized what that meant as youwere getting older.
What did that look like for youto kind of step further into
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this realm of what you're sopassionate about?
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Yeah, that's a great
question, because there was a
pivot point I reached in my 20s.
I was going to school at StThomas here in St Paul and I was
on track for pre-med.
That's what I wanted to be adoctor, right, you want to help
people heal Well, and I was inthis, on this track for a
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chemistry degree so that I could, you know, have the hardest
degree that anyone ever has.
And it was going to be a BSdegree so that I could say I
took the most difficult classespossible.
And and I and then I evenchallenged myself because they
said if you do a BS, then you'regoing to see harder classes in
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undergrad than you're going tosee in med school.
And I was like, okay, I'll justdo that, Wow, which was not a
fun thing, Um, but to be able tosay that I did it is still it's
, it's still something.
But anyway.
Um, when I was exploringmedical school is when I learned
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.
I was really like careful aboutwhat I take into my mind and
where the source of my learningis coming from, and so when I
realized that the curriculum forthe medical school is being
written by the pharmaceuticalindustry, I aborted that mission
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because I was not going to gointo debt to practice a version
of medicine that is prioritizes.
Putting a matching a drug witha system with a symptom let's
say that to me is not medicine.
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With a system with a symptomlet's say that to me is not
medicine.
So what ended up happening is Igraduated with the degree, with
the chemistry degree, and I wasso burnt out that I actually
ended up in sales and I learnedthat I really was good at that.
So it was a series of car sales, mortgages and insurance until
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I landed where I really found mypassion, which was in weight
loss.
So by the time I was 27, I wasbrought on as a weight loss
coach and watched hundreds ofpeople transform right before my
eyes and that's where I learnedthat God was speaking through
me.
The door would close, the tearswould start and the
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transformation would happen likeevery time and stuff could come
out of my mouth that I had noidea.
I knew where it was coming from, but I knew it wasn't me, Like
I don't know.
I'm only in my late 20s.
These people coming in here are10, 20, 30 years older than me.
What am I going to say to them?
And it would just flow.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Isn't that the best?
Just to be so surrendered tothat.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Yeah, and it reminds
me of my most favorite story of
that whole time was a dad camein and it was him and his wife
who did this weight loss journeytogether.
They went all in and he had hisdaughter there the day.
He stepped on the scale and hewas down 150 pounds.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Oh my gosh, that's
like a whole person.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Yeah, and he broke
down into tears and it was to be
able to be there for thatmoment for him, that
accomplishment that he had.
There's just really nothing outthere like that when you're in
service to another person,helping them transform their
life well, I definitely see thatas a huge key of of who he's
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created you to be right yeah,yeah, that it's.
It's exhilarating, like if ifyou've never been there, anyone
listening to be there at thepivot point of transformation
for someone, where the lightbulb goes on, where their life
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is transformed right before youreyes.
There's just literally nothinglike it.
Yeah it's such a gift.
I think we all have it in us.
To be honest, I really do yeahthink we all have it in us.
To be honest, I really do.
Yeah, I'll have that in us whenwas this?
Speaker 2 (11:32):
was this at like a
clinic, or was it a like a some
center that you worked at then?
Speaker 3 (11:39):
yeah, back then it
was called slim for life.
Today I I think it's calledslim Jevity.
Okay, um, and you know it was agreat program.
There's a reason I'm not withthem anymore and there's nothing
.
It's just it was very focusedon getting the weight off and
not necessarily effective atteaching the things to keep it
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off.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
So and you've since
learned those over time.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Yes, that you have to
, absolutely have to learn the
habits and learn the lifestyle.
And really here's a key goldnugget is you have to get under
the emotional root of why you'renot eating to nourish yourself.
Root of why you're not eatingto nourish yourself, it's just
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food as a medication is whatI've kind of learned.
People are sort of medicatingtheir emotions with food instead
of getting to the root of whythose emotions are controlling
their behavior.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Yeah, and have you
like, have you inadvertently,
even now, um still walkedalongside people in this work,
um, the work that you're doingnow, the weight loss the weight
loss hasn't been as much lately,um, and there's a whole nother
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segment that would take a whileto explain why that is.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
But you know, life
got really busy and I became a
mother and there's a motherthings that led to my own
journey of going deeper thanweight loss and more so, just in
general personal transformationin the space of brain health.
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Um, because we're in well, whencovid came up, I just saw how
broken our mental health systemwas, yeah, and that truly, with
what the knowledge and expertisethat I learned that that was.
That was the priority.
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Where I needed to go wasdealing with stuff that's
literally saving people's livesyeah and weight loss, not that
it's not it's.
It's really, really important.
But I wanted to.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
I wanted to do more
yeah, absolutely well, I can
imagine, like once you arehelping somebody, there's this
inadvertent um, I wouldn't evensay like it's it's gonna happen
because you're getting healthierin other ways.
Right your mind, you're gettinglike on top of your emotions
and, um, I would love for you tokind of segue into what is he
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calling like.
What is he calling you intoright now?
Because, um, there's so muchpower in the times that we've
talked I think it's been acouple months now um, I've
really just kind of been in yourcorner cheerleading you along
because it's so powerful whathe's calling you into and it is
needed in our world in this time.
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So many people, um, when I,when I hear you talking, it's
like this is almost a wake-upcall for whoever's listening
today.
It may not be necessarily foryou, it probably might be, but
it's most likely for somebody inyour circle.
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So could you tell us a littlebit more of what the Lord's
calling you into and what doesit look like like the last six
months to step into this new,new thing, even though it's not
necessarily new, but it is kindof new right?
Speaker 3 (15:25):
Mm-hmm.
You know what's so interestingabout that question is what pops
up right away when you'reasking that.
It's crisis prevention.
That's what I'm being calledinto, and there's three times in
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my life where the Lord hasgiven me a specific directive,
woken me up at a specific timewith a specific assignment, to
go downstairs with my journaland a pen and given me a
download.
The first one was just somethingabout telling the people can't
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is not something that exists,and so that one was a long time
ago, but you said within thelast six months.
Well, the second one was on9-11-2022.
The methodology of the, likethe lighthouse method, which is
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kind of how I teach theintrinsic light from within to
kind of heal from the inside outthat was birthed on 9-11, which
I never correlated that becausewe're talking, we used to be 22
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a day, which is when why wescheduled this to go out on the
22nd of may, because this ismental health awareness month.
Yeah, we're losing 20.
We used to be losing 22veterans and first responders
daily to suicide.
It's very sobering to thinkabout that.
I think that it's gone down nowto more like 17, but there
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shouldn't be one happening inthis country.
The ones on the front lines,right, the ones on the front
lines, which is precisely whythat is a wake-up call that the
way the system is going aboutmental health is there is
something inherently flawed withhow we're going about that.
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Yes, and the third download wasjust a few weeks ago Well, just
four days ago actually.
Um, five on five, 15 at five.
I love it.
We talked about this triplegrace.
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It's like this is message ofgrace, uh.
But even before that it I don'trecall the exact date, but I
got a download right here in myliving room where we're doing
this interview on a strategy forreversing PTSD.
That's what we're going to diveinto today, because it's such a
stigma, but it's really just aset of symptoms and when we
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dissect a little bit what'sgoing on, it kind of takes the
power away from what can be areally, really scary thing.
When you have the right toolsand the right knowledge of how
you can actually start toreverse the process.
The physiological impact thatPTSD has on a person's state of
mind and their body yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Can you just take a
moment for those who maybe don't
know what PTSD is.
I gather that most people doand have experienced it at some
point in their life.
But for those who maybe don'tknow what it is and didn't know
that that's what they'repotentially experiencing, could
stands for post-traumatic stressdisorder.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
So I think most
people have some kind of
experience with trauma in theirlife car accident, loss of a
loved one.
You know it could be somethingmore significant, like abuse, or
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long, ongoing abuse, which canlead to a more complex version
of PTSD, called CPTSD, whereit's ongoing emotional trauma
that has a different reaction inthe brain, and for veterans and
first responders, we're talkingabout war, we're talking about
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seeing people blown up andreally traumatic things that
they've experienced.
So then, the physiologicalresponse is the creation of an
ongoing fight or flight responsein the body, in the brain,
which can be simplified downinto.
It's the hormones that arereleased when your body is
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reacting in a way that it thinksit's being chased by a tiger.
It's the fight or flightresponse.
It's a surge of cortisol andadrenaline.
The thing is, go ahead.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
The thing is go ahead
.
I was going to say thank youfor like getting into the.
You know just even visually,what, what it might look like
for what somebody experiences.
Even you know these veteranswho are out there.
You know, in war we've had alot going on in our world, um
and and I can't even imaginelike what that would do to the
body, like coming back to quoteunquote reality when somebody
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gets you know out of that placeand then trying to assimilate
back into you know real life.
Speaker 3 (21:08):
Right, right and yeah
, and there's a couple things
that we need to touch on withthat.
Number one is there is asurvivor's guilt that they have
that they got to come home andthey got to see so many people
that didn't you know, you'restill here for a reason and your
community needs you, yourfamily needs you.
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You're still on mission becausethe oath was sworn to protect
enemies, both foreign anddomestic, and we, unfortunately,
have a lot of enemies domesticin our society that we need
protectors to be there for andthat's the purpose of this
message is to rebuild, reboot,re-enlist our veterans that
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right now feel like they mayfeel like they don't have a
purpose, but they do, and we'regoing to get into a little bit
more of that.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Yeah, well, tell us
more.
I am just loving bringing tothe table here.
I'm sure that eyes are openingand ears are like for the next
portion of what you have toshare here.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
Well, it's exciting
and I think this is the time to
really dig into, like the nuts,next portion of what you have to
share here.
Well, it's exciting and I thinkthis is the time to really dig
into, like the nuts and bolts ofwhat this message is.
So I said I had a download ofreversing PTSD.
Well, I need to back up asecond and say that for a time
period I was under so muchstress that it just started
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compiling and compiling and tothe point I had to go and you
know, I had to go in and be seenand ask what was going on.
I was experiencing all theseheadaches and I couldn't think
and foggy, my brain was foggyand all this like I could barely
do my job.
And, um, when I was seen by atrusted health professional, um,
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he was like you're, you're inconstant fight or flight and
that's basically what PTSD is.
So you're just, it's chronicstress and your body is reacting
to it that way.
So I need to preface by sayingI know what it feels like and
I'm standing here talking to youon the other side of it,
knowing what it looks like tonavigate out of that and
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overcome the physiologicaleffects of it.
So that's exciting, just toshare that with you.
But to actually reverse PTSD,we're going to actually reverse
the acronym and it's going to beD S T P instead of PTSD.
We're going to repurpose thewhole acronym and we're going to
reverse it.
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And so the D?
Yes, I was like thank you, thatis brilliant.
Flip in the script, girl, flipin the script, yep.
So the D is a decision.
Anything that you're facing inlife, you have to come to a
decision point that says I amnot going to let this define me
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and I am going to overcome this.
Because, guess what?
The obstacles that we getthrown at in our life are our
training ground to overcome thatand be someone that can help
someone else get through that.
It builds compassion, it buildslong suffering.
It builds, you know, it buildspatience, it builds resilience,
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it builds character.
Yes.
You got to be thankful in themess that that you are being
trained for something.
It's discipline.
It's not pleasant when it'shappening right, but it's
necessary for the greater goodof you and humanity in general,
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what your assignment and yourpurpose is, whatever your
greatest pain.
Probably giving you a clue towhat your purpose is.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Yeah, it's almost
like bootcamp, right.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
Yeah, exactly so that
, like I said, the discipline,
the decision, the discipline andthen being discipled is really
key, because that is yourcommunity.
So mentorship, leadership,someone pouring into your life
and you being able to pour intosomeone else's life.
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When it comes to discipleship,you know that is the great
commission.
Everyone has that as a mission.
We're on a faith-based podcasthere.
Jesus died to give us life tothe fullest and if we're not out
there discipling and beingdiscipled, we are not
experiencing that fullness oflife.
Absolutely.
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Be able to give that to someoneelse, right?
So that's the first step, thatis the D, that's the foundation.
So, if none of those arehappening, well then make the
decision and get connected, askfor help, get a mentor and find
you know, get that processstarted.
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So that leads into the S, whichis service to others.
When someone and I've beenthere when you're in that place
of despair, depression, it'svery inward focused and we're
very focused on our owncircumstances and we can it can
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be crippling to get in thatplace of isolation, not wanting
to ask for help, not feelinglike you have anything to offer
anyone else.
I'm here to tell you that weall do have something to offer
others, and sometimes beingvulnerable to express the pain
that we're in is part of whatgives someone else permission to
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do that too.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Can you say that one
again?
I feel like it needs repeating.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
Okay, so that was
totally inspired.
I don't even that was prophetic, the part of like reaching out
to somebody you know in painwhen you're in pain.
Okay.
So by expressing our ownbrokenness and pain, that gives
someone else permission to dothe same, and there's purpose.
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There's purpose in thatvulnerability to be to be be
able to just have the courage tobe broken and ask for help, um,
but that's going to lead you toa place where you can get to
somewhere where you're justhelping someone else in the
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smallest capacity.
It might even just be a smileor asking someone to share a
meal, something so small, butyou're focused on the needs of
someone else instead of your ownneeds.
There's so much healing andsoul care in that, if that piece
is missing, then seek outplaces where you can be of
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service.
So many options, opportunitiesto volunteer or be a helping
hand.
Um, now to the t.
The t is for training.
This is is so pivotal, soimportant.
And training as your treatmentthinking of your exercise
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regimen and your routine is yourtreatment.
It's not optional.
There's no one else that can doit for you, and there's so much
empowerment in that.
I always say this even Jesuscannot do your pushups for you.
True.
He can do everything, so manythings but he cannot do your
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bootcamp, he cannot do pushupsfor you.
And what's so amazing I want todive into that for a moment is
what happens in the brain whenyou go through that physical
response to like a highintensity type of exercise.
I'll share quickly.
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What happened to me was I wasin that chronic fight or flight
state.
I was going through a divorce.
I was a single mom, or sorry, Ihad just recently become a
single mom, but I was a stay athome mom for seven years and my
marriage fell apart.
We were in a new city.
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I had really very littlesupport, I had very little
connections, I didn't have a job, and so it was just.
I was like stripped bare, nakedof everything that I knew.
Just, I was like stripped bare,naked of everything that I knew
, wow, and I found myself in aplace of like literally utter
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shock and despair, of like mywhole world crumbling around me,
ended up, you know, having toget a job and go back to work.
I got hired as a health coachreversing type 2 diabetes for
United Health Group, so that wasamazing.
I got connected into a healthcoach reversing type 2 diabetes
for United Health Group.
So that was amazing.
I got connected into meaningfulwork again, but I was so
chronically stressed at what wasgoing on with my family that I
was having a hard time even justfocusing on my job.
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Right, it's just reallystressful and I wasn't sleeping
well.
Really stressful and I wasn'tsleeping well.
One of my coworkers asked me ifI wanted to do a workout one
day and I was like, yeah, thatsounds good.
It was COVID time, no gyms wereopen, and so we literally did a
workout in my backyard, at thepark, in the sunshine.
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In the sunshine, it was about a20 minute workout, basic stuff,
and that very day I became adifferent person, like I
literally slept like a baby thatnight.
I went from chronic anxiety andinsomnia in the morning to
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being empowered to get rid ofall that stress and trauma in my
body and sleep like a baby thatsame night.
And it never went back to thatagain, and that was five years
ago.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Well, it reminds me
of I don't know if you've seen
that video where I think it'slike a gazelle or something
that's being attacked by maybe amountain lion and what it does
is it plays dead and then, onceit's, you know, if it's still
alive, it'll actually like shake.
It'll shake itself to get allthat nervous, get the nerves
like everything, just shake itall out.
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And that's what I feel like,kind of, as you were describing
that.
I was thinking about like thatgetting all that.
You know it is.
It's like nervous energy, it'sthat fight or flight and I like
to call it like.
This is what I've experienced,because I've walked through some
of these things similarly, withhaving like adrenal burnout and
all the things like living in afight or flight environment for
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a long time, since I was achild and you know one of the
things that was reallyinteresting and I don't know if
you integrated this as well, butI think movement is integral,
but I was actually told when Ihad adrenal burnout, to rest
more and that was really hardwell, you need both.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
I think you need both
.
I mean, when you have adrenalburnout, um, when you do this
treatment, this exercisetreatment, I'm speaking of
you're.
I'm not talking about highintensity like a crossfit class,
where it's, like you know,jammy music, and like I'm not
talking about that.
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I'm talking about slow,methodical movement that you're
pushing yourself to your edgeand then beyond, like you're
creating that, where you feelyou're feeling that burning and
like you're going to a place ofalmost failure.
You know what you're doing isbreaking down all those muscle
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fibers, but in a very controlledway, and you're doing it for
your whole body.
And then what that ends updoing is releasing a cascade of
endorphins, includingepinephrine, norepinephrine,
serotonin, dopamine, and thenyou have, like the heavy hitter,
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which I call is BDNF brainderived neurotropic factor and
the only way to get that is liketo go deep and really, really
get that.
That's knowing.
That is what drives me.
I work out.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
What might be an
example for those who like, do
work out and would understandmaybe, like what, what kind of
like?
What would you do in like a set?
Would you be doing like acertain amount of reps or?
Speaker 3 (34:07):
something.
Yeah, let's just take, like,let's just take a leg press for
example, a basic movement.
So you're doing your leg press,you've got it set at whatever
160 pounds, whatever you'resetting, and you can do it a
couple of ways you could do.
You know, when I first do areset with someone, like their
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physiological reset, I'm goingto have them plan on doing that
movement for two minutes.
You can do anything for twominutes, right?
Absolutely.
But depending on where theweight is set.
If you're reaching two minutesand you've still got a little
bit in you, then you keep going,keep going until you can't
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anymore.
You keep you.
Literally you can't do one more.
You don't have to do everysingle workout like that, but
when you're truly going to thatplace of like really resetting
your physiology that's the waywe do, it is you really just
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leave it all there.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Okay, and do you feel
like this is something that
would be most helpful?
To have somebody like a trainerwalking alongside you that
understands this?
Speaker 3 (35:21):
I do for the first
yeah, Until you know what you're
doing.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
Yep, that's this is a
little disclaimer there.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
Yes, but and here's
the thing I'm going to tell you
all these methods, but the onemissing piece that you can't do
by yourself is have a companion.
Yes, and the companionship inthis was everything for me, and
that's what I'm calling all ofus to do is to be that one
person who reaches out and helpssomebody else reaches out and
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helps somebody else.
That's why I want to teach this, because then I'm creating an
army of healers that know how togo out and be that person that
actually has a battle plan tosay I know how to get you out of
this.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
It's so beautiful,
like I just keep seeing, like
this hand outreach and somebodyhas just been waiting for for a
long time.
You know, like the, the man atthe pool can never see, yeah,
the pool of bethesda you say it,the pool of bethesda?
Speaker 3 (36:20):
yeah, it's all it
takes.
He went there for him, he and,and what did he ask?
He asked do you want to behealed?
Yes, so that's the decision.
If someone wants to be healed,we have the answers.
But you have to turn away fromthe pool of Bethesda where
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that's not for you.
Yes, yes.
And that's a lot of.
What are some of the modernmethods that are being used?
parallels that you're you'rematching a symptom with a drug
that's going to cause more sideeffects is not a healing
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protocol.
That is a bandaid Exactly.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
Well, could you?
I think we need to go back tothat Like I want to.
I want you to go deeper on that, because I do feel like there
is a you know, the 911, the 911wake up call in that area, but
could you tell us what the P is?
I'm like on the edge of my seatover here, I know.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
Well, the P and you
cannot.
You cannot get to a place ofliving life to the fullest
without purpose.
Yeah, that is the place ofdespair where people get to,
when they feel like they don'thave purpose, they don't have
value, they don't have worth.
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Life has kicked them around.
They're not on missionEspecially for a veteran or a
first responder that used to betheir important work and now
they're not on that mission.
That doesn't mean that youdon't have a life mission.
You have a life mission that isway beyond and probably way
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bigger than serving in themilitary or as a first responder
.
You have a life mission thatwas written in the book, in your
book, before you were evenformed in your mother's womb,
and that's between you and God.
To figure out what that is,however, it's also discipleship.
It's also you're going to findthat purpose in community.
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You're not probably going tofind that purpose in in
community.
You're not probably going tofind that purpose in isolation
and away from others.
You're going to find it whenyou're in community and in
service to others.
What makes you come alive?
Speaker 2 (38:44):
Yes, that's so
powerful.
This, this flip, the scriptacronym of is is straight from
heaven.
Yes, it was you guys see this.
I want you to the listeners, Iwant you to take a moment and
just soak this in.
Could you just give?
Just read again, like the wordsthat are for each, each one
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could you?
Speaker 3 (39:07):
just say that again
yeah, so ptsd, we're reversing
it as DSTP.
The D is decision, disciplineand discipleship.
The S is service to others.
The T is training as treatmentwhich is also going to lead to a
testimony that's powerfultestimony of overcoming that.
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You did the work on your.
You did the work.
And then the P is purpose in inyour area of passion, which
ultimately is going to lead topeace peace of mind, peace
within yourself, and that peaceis going to ripple throughout
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your household, your circle ofinfluence, your neighborhood,
your work.
You're going to be a peacemakerand a peacekeeper because you
were able to cultivate thatpeace within yourself.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
Yes, wow, I'm just
soaking this in the word that
keeps coming over this.
There is a piece over this anda piece like P-I-E-C-E.
So if we look at what thesystem is currently, you know
the typical system let's justkind of high level, you know you
have a veteran, like what isthe typical systematic approach
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to helping veterans at thispoint that you have recognized
in our world.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
It's the message of
hope, first of all, and that's
what this is, and so it leads meto, to the mindset shift first
and foremost is that they are avery honored and recognized,
much needed piece of our society, that we still need them, yes
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for.
And so healing circles is whatI'm building and what is a
movement that I'm starting, andso it just happened organically.
Not too long ago, I foundmyself invited into a circle of
veterans and I was the onlynon-veteran there and I told
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them why I was there, that I wasrecently appointed to be the
liaison for the American Legionand the Minnesota Coalition of
Suicide Prevention, and that gottheir attention and I started
sharing a little bit of thestory that I've shared today,
and it started bringing up a lotof things for them that they
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were carrying old emotionalbaggage which just led to a
mindset shift which is sopowerful.
I came across while I waspreparing this PTSD reversal
guidance, which is the traumaright.
The T was for trauma, whileyour trauma is not the end of
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your story, that's thefoundation of your calling.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
Say that again.
Speaker 3 (42:19):
Your trauma is not
the end of your story.
It's the foundation of yourcalling.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
Yeah, I want you guys
to catch that.
Speaker 3 (42:29):
So flip the script on
the trauma and take the focus
off the trauma and put the focuson the mission which probably,
if you're in it, is your missionis to heal you so that you can
heal others.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
Cause it starts with
you, but it's behind you.
Speaker 3 (42:46):
And you can heal from
.
You can help others from aplace of brokenness.
You do not have to be fullyarrived.
Speaker 1 (42:57):
You don't have to be
fully arrived at a complete
state of healing.
Speaker 3 (43:03):
You just have to be a
few steps ahead of someone else
to be able to lead them alittle further than from where
they're so.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
Cause.
How many people, would you say,get stopped in their tracks and
don't even move forward becausethey feel like they have to be
like perfectly put together,yeah, a lot Right, but healing
happens in community, so you'reliterally stifling your own
healing by not helping others,and it happens in layers too,
(43:35):
wouldn't you say Yep, for sureit does Sometimes it happens
like this, and sometimes ithappens in a longer stretch of
time wouldn't, you say oh, andwork forever evolving, you know,
and there's going to be newtraumas that you might, that you
might experience, you.
Speaker 3 (43:56):
You know, like I said
, it's life, life and death.
Things happen, tragedies happen, but it's the degree of
resilience that we have, thatresilience mindset, that this
isn't going to take me out.
This is just part of my story.
Yes, absolutely, I love that.
It's in the design.
But if you have your, if youhave a purpose and a mission and
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a calling that that is defined,there's nothing that is going
to get to you that's going tomake you give up hope Exactly
Nothing up hope?
Speaker 2 (44:42):
exactly nothing, amen
, girl.
Well, I feel like we need tohave you back on, because this
is kind of the stage of what'sbeing birthed through you, right
?
So if people are wondering,like, what is what is sarah up
to right now?
How can I get involved?
Where can I reach her?
They're getting stirred.
What does that look like forsomebody to reach out to you and
then like what is your missioncurrently like right now?
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What does it look like to goout and serve others in this
space?
Speaker 3 (45:08):
So I knew that this
would be stir in the hearts of a
lot of people and what I'mdoing is building a community,
building a community of hope andhealing, and what that looks
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like right now is called it'sjust a community landing page on
Facebook right now called Hopefor Heroes, and you know it's
evolving right now.
It's brand new.
It just came to me because Iasked where are people going to
gather?
I can't take an influx ofthousands of calls coming in,
but what I can do is build acommunity.
So, basically, think of Hopefor Heroes as an online
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community center.
So just come and join thecommunity, be a part of the
conversation.
Let us know if, if you, youknow, if you want to help, if
you want to volunteer, if youwant to move the thing forward,
if you, if you feel called tohelp financially and donate
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that's I mean, everything takessome financial resources too.
That's where we're going to land.
That's where we're going to gofrom here to continue the
conversation and be connected,which reminds me that I have a
book by Dr Henry Wright calledExposing the Spiritual Roots of
Disease, where he talks about80% of disease being literally
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just the separation factor beingseparated from others, being
separated from yourself or beingseparated from God is the root
of about 80% of the disease outthere.
So the antidote is connectionout there, so the antidote is
connection.
So what better place to connectthan just you know quickly and
(47:06):
efficiently online with with aproductive reason for getting on
social media yes.
Speaker 2 (47:08):
So I'm sure, like as
you're walking this out as well,
he's going to continue to showyou the keys and the ways that
this community will evolve aswell, right?
Speaker 3 (47:17):
Right, yeah, so
that's going to be the.
That's the landing page.
Hope for heroes.
I do have a coaching platformbecause if there are people who
are really like I'm ready to getgoing, I know I need something.
I need to do this resilienceprogram.
I do have a signature program.
That's a three-part resilienceprogram and that's on my
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personal site called sarajlife,so my middle name is J, it's
super simple.
You can connect with me therewhen it comes to more
personalized coaching.
Speaker 2 (47:51):
Okay, yeah, it's
S-A-R-A-J, correct.
Speaker 3 (47:55):
Yep, no, h
S-A-R-A-Jlife.
Okay, yeah, it's S A R A J,correct.
Yep, no, h S A R A J dot life.
Speaker 2 (47:59):
Okay, awesome, and
I'll be sure to add the Facebook
group link to the show notesand your website to the show
notes.
Is there anything else you wantto share about what's going on
in your world?
Like coming up.
Speaker 3 (48:12):
I do.
I mean one thing that I really.
I mean I feel like I want togive credit where credit is due
and there's a little bit more tothe story than just the acronym
I had and, again, like you cando so much on your own, but
there's certain things you justcan't do on your own and one of
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those things was a neuromuscularresetting that I was able to go
through.
I was connected to thisbrilliant trauma-informed
physician that I want to givecredit to and that's Dr Troy
Spurrell of Synapse Health andHealing, which is right here in
Eagan, dakota County, egan,minnesota.
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He has had people flown to himfrom Germany that were going
through things that no one elsecould figure out and he is a
brilliant, brilliant mind offunctional medicine.
I want to make sure that thepeople know there are really
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amazing functional medicinehealth professionals out there
that know how to get to theunderlying root of whatever
disease process is happening andactually get you on a path to
healing.
Speaker 2 (49:32):
Yes, because I'm very
passionate about that.
Right, like there's so many.
There's so many people outthere that are so passionate
about this and I think, again,getting the word out um is so
important to like help flip thescript in the system, to help
come up.
You know, sharing the parallelsystems are out there because
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they're springing up and they'respringing up faster.
Speaker 3 (49:58):
Yeah, I would.
And the other.
The other person I want to givecredit to is is David Schmidt.
He is the inventor of the X39patch, which is a phototherapy
that can be used to harness thepower of light and reactivate
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our own stem cells from withinour body.
So that's probably going tohave to be part two.
But that was part of my healingprocess as well was
phototherapy that literally likereawakened my brain.
Within six weeks I felt like Iwent from like cobwebs in my
brain to like firing on allcylinders and feeling that like
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clarity that I hadn'texperienced in a long time.
So that's powerful and very,very affordable, accessible,
easy for anyone to do and, um,it's like literally being able
to flip the body into a state ofhealing, um, with a very, very
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simple method awesome.
Speaker 2 (51:05):
Well, I can get some
information from you, and we can
link that in the show notes aswell too, if you'd like yeah,
awesome yeah, as we close up fortoday, I would love to to chat
longer, but we'll have to, likeI said, we'll have to have you
back for an update.
You know, as I said earlier, Ido this for the one.
I'd love for you to think ofthat one person and share any
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words of encouragement or wisdomthat you could speak over them,
and then would you pray us outtoday.
Speaker 3 (51:33):
I would.
You know that's a perfectending, as I'm thinking about
you know, the one person thatjust feels like everything is
hopeless and there's just no wayout.
There's always an anchor ofhope, and it starts with just
changing that thought.
There is hope.
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And put your focus on thesource of that hope and peace,
which is Jesus.
It really is so.
If you don't know him, ask himinto your heart.
And if you do and you're stillthere, there's a song I want you
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to look up and play.
It's called Oxygen.
It's by Stephanie Gretzinger,it's S-T-E-F-F-A-N-Y and her
last name is G-R-E-T-Z-I-N-G-E-R.
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That music, music, is so healingand it literally, it literally
just starts with the changing ofone thought and change
everything yes and and reach outand ask, ask for help, get out
of that place, literally get outof that place.
Open the door and walk out andget out of that place.
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Go out in nature, findsomething to change.
Speaker 2 (53:07):
Yes, yes would you
pray us out today I just feel
such a peace over.
Speaker 3 (53:19):
I feel like whoever's
listening to this is getting
deliverance, so yes, yes, okay,um, and, by the way, if you're
in that place, go to hope forheroes.
You can find me there.
You can send me a privatemessage If you need to talk.
I will be there for you.
So, father God, thank you forthis time, thank you for this
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message that you have entrustedme to deliver, thank you for
Kristen, for giving us theplatform to get it out there.
Like I said to her earlier,this is my stone, this is my
stone that I'm casting, that'sgoing to dismantle the fear that
is crippling our great men andwomen that have served us to be
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able to empower them to comeback to life, to get back on
purpose, get back on mission.
And I just so pray that thismessage reaches far and wide
whoever needs to hear it andgives them that hope for today
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that they needed to be able totake that next step forward.
So, thank you for the sacrifice, ultimately, that you made in
order to give us the power thatis within us, that literally
runs through our veins becauseof the sacrifice you made for us
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, and that we get to multiplythat hope and healing and
purpose together.
That all points back to you.
So to you be the glory in Jesusname.
Amen.
Speaker 2 (55:00):
Amen.
Well, I'm going to close withour anchoring verse over hope,
unlocked it's.
May the God of hope fill youwith all joy and peace and
believing so that, by the powerof the Holy Spirit, you may
abound in hope.
And don't you guys just lovethe hope thread here?
So, sarah, thank you so muchfor being a brave voice.
Who's setting so many free?
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Like I said, we'd love to haveyou back on for an update later.
Otherwise, I appreciate youbeing on today and I'll be back
with another episode next week.
Thanks, listeners.
Speaker 3 (55:31):
Amazing.
Thank you so much.
Can't wait to be back.