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In this episode of Hope Unlocked, Kristin Kurtz welcomes back Michele Keen to unveil her long-awaited book, The Bridal Covenant, releasing September 25, 2025. Born out of a Holy Spirit encounter and a prophetic call to write, Michele shares the journey of carrying and birthing this message for such a time as this. Together they dive into themes of covenant, identity, and Kingdom destiny, offering a prophetic invitation to rise in courage, embrace intimacy with Christ, and boldly release the assignment God has placed within you.

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Speaker 1 (00:16):
Welcome to the Hope Unlocked podcast.
I'm your host, kristen Kurtz,and I'm also the founder of New
Wings Coaching.
I help and empower wildheartedand adventurous women of faith
feeling caged and stuck, unlocktheir true purpose and potential
, break free from limitationsand thrive with confidence,
courage and hope.
If you're curious to learn moreabout coaching with me, head to
newwingscoachingnet and be sureto explore the show notes for

(00:38):
ways to connect with me further.
Get ready to dive in as weuncover empowering keys and
insights in this episode.
So tune in and let's unlockhope together.
Welcome to the Hope Unlockedpodcast.
I'm Kristen Kurtz, your host.
I pray this episode is like aholy IV of hope for your soul.
Please help me.
Welcome Michelle Keen to theshow.

(00:58):
I am so thrilled to have herback today.
She was on back in December of2024, episode 106.
So please go back and listen.
But I'm very thrilled to haveher here today because we have a
birth announcement.
We have something coming soonand it's just been such a joy to
I'll just say soar alongsideher on this journey of bringing

(01:23):
something to life that is soneeded in this hour and, as
we're recording today, thisannouncement is going to be a
precursor to what's coming onSeptember 22nd 2025.
So, michelle, would you justtell us a little bit about
yourself before we get into thebirth announcement?

Speaker 2 (01:41):
Absolutely, kristen.
It is so awesome to be here.
Thank you again for letting mejust come on and be a part of
everything that you do here.
It is an honor and, yeah, thelast time we met back in
December, the Holy Spirit justexploded.
I remember when we got off ofour podcast and we were both
just on fire, like what justhappened.
You yourself, you're the onewho actually told me there needs

(02:04):
to be a book, and I felt it too, and that's what's been
happening since then, and that'swhat's happening on the 22nd my
book baby is about to be born.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
Yes, yes.
Well, tell us a little bitabout just I know people might
go back and listen to yourjourney, but if you could just
tell us a little bit about whoyou are and like where you're at
right now, and then we'll getinto you know more about the
book and what it's about.
Like this journey to even bringit to life.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
Absolutely so.
I grew up in the foreignservice.
My life was spent abroad, inthe nations for a good part of
my life, and then I came to theUnited States for college and
had been here ever since then.
But the Lord still carried meoverseas, ministering in places
like Uganda and Israel, spentquite a bit of time in both of

(02:54):
those places, and it's neatbecause there was a season in my
life when he had me going toUganda for a number of years,
and there was a season when hehad me going to Israel for a
number of years, and even when Iwas in Uganda, I was speaking
at conferences there,emphasizing what the Lord was
showing me was that there is aspiritual connection between
Uganda, israel and the UnitedStates.

(03:14):
So it's neat that now, on theheels of both of those two
seasons, he's now brought meback to my homeland to be on
mission here.
Now brought me back to myhomeland to be on mission here,

(03:36):
and so in 2012, he actuallybegan showing me, speaking to me
about the revival that we are100% diving even now, and so I'd
been praying for the UnitedStates from both here and Israel
, and then in 2020, I couldn'tget back to Israel because of
COVID couldn't fly.
And I started getting intoroutine and I asked the Lord.
I took some time and fasted andasked him you know what is your
next step for me?
And he said get a van, get itbuilt out, I'm going to position

(03:59):
you for the revival.
I'm like, okay, so I did, andNovember of 2022 is November 2nd
.
Wow, that's a lot of twos.
11 to 22,.
Um, uh is when I flew off toCalifornia from Virginia, picked
up my van and started drivingthrough.

(04:19):
I drove across um, arizona, newMexico, came to Texas because I
was going to visit my brotherwho was in an RV here.
I was going to visit him herefor a couple of days before I
head up back towards Virginia.
I just had some things I wasstoring at my mom's I was going
to pick up.
And when I got to Texas thoughI have to tell you, when I
crossed the border from NewMexico into Texas, I felt like I

(04:42):
was in a different country.
There was a spiritual shift thatI felt.
And when I got to actuallyKerrville which we've seen on
the news in the past few months,where my brother was, the Lord
said this is where I positionedyou.
So I was there for eight monthsand then after that he brought

(05:05):
me to the Gulf Coast states todo some redeeming of land.
There that's my mantle isredeeming land and after that he
said you're not going back toCurvil, you're going to the
Houston area.
And he brought me here and thisis home base, this is where I
am.
There's so much he's sayingabout revival, so much he's
putting in place, and so I'vejust been in the secret place

(05:26):
with him and it's out of thatsecret place, out of that
intimacy, that he has birthedthis book.
The name of the book is theBridal Covenant, and we'll get
more into exactly what thatmeans.
But yeah, it's an exciting timethat we're in.
Let me tell you we're not inKansas anymore, toto, it is a

(05:46):
whole new question.

Speaker 1 (05:48):
So how long have you been where you are now, then?

Speaker 2 (05:53):
Oh my, I got here September 6th of 2023.
It's two years.
Okay, it's September, middle ofSeptember.
We're recording this.
Wow, yeah, it's two full yearsand I've been where I'm now okay
.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
So when you say I would just be curious for
somebody who maybe is listening,and and you said that there was
like a big shift going from NewMexico to Texas, you know what,
what does that?
What does that mean to you,like?

Speaker 2 (06:24):
well, one thing I've found out about the state of
Texas.
Well, first of all, I didn'teven really know much about
Texas having been a nation ofits own once upon a time, and I
felt the shift so strongly thatI actually asked my brother okay
, I've heard that there arechances that Texas could become
its own nation again.
What are the chances of thathappening?

(06:44):
That there are chances thatTexas could become its own
nation again, what are thechances of that happening?
And he said well, probablywould never happen, but
everything is in place, the fullinfrastructure is in place here
to, if necessary, they couldflip the switch and be a nation.
And I felt it so strongly thatI even asked so, if I'm not a
Texas resident?
And yet, what am I going to do?
Do I have to defect?
I mean, if that were to happen,it was like you know, and he's

(07:08):
like I don't know, but youbetter become a Texas resident
now.
And I did.
And what the Lord then showedme, he brought me.
It was a January of 2024.
He actually brought me to anarea called Washington on the
Brazos, which I had never heardof, and I did some research

(07:29):
before I got there.
Washington on the Brazos, itturns out, was where the signing
of the Declaration of theRepublic of Texas was signed
years ago, at the same time asthe Alamo was being fought.
Well, well, as I was doing myresearch, I also found out that
once Texas became its own nation, became its republic, it was a

(07:51):
republic for 10 years and duringthat time, in 1840, in
Washington on the Brazos,revival broke out.
There are seeds of revival herein Texas and there's a
significance with Texasspiritually being still this
nation of sorts, whereas there'sa position here to be able to

(08:15):
impact prophetically andspiritually into the rest of the
nation.
The Lord even had me and hesaid look up what's been said
about this nation.
I know that Chuck Pierce andDutch Sheeps went from state to
state, went to all 50 states,and they said that Texas was the
prophetic state.
Engel has said that Texas isthe battleground state and on
Elijah list I found numerousposts that say that the seat of

(08:38):
revival is in Texas.
So when I went to Washington onBrazos, the Lord said I want you
to go there and I want you toopen the wells of revival.
So I went there, poured the,the wine, the blood into the
ground and the bread andconsecrated that land for the
Lord.
Um, I remember he told me totake, take the wine and put it

(08:59):
on the doorposts of thatdeclaration hall and as as I did
, I knew a spiritual, that a,the spirit of death was passing
by.
I'm like what?
Where's the spirit of deathpassing by?
And he said it's passing by theSouthern borders of Texas.
I'm like, oh, thank you.
And as I left the WashingtonAbrazos, he said that the wells

(09:25):
have been released and there isnothing, absolutely nothing,
that can stop the water fromflowing.
Now and then it's neat becauseand thank you for giving me an
opportunity to share about thisyes, because we heard about the
floods happening in Kerrville.
Yes, because we heard about thefloods happening in Kerrville

(10:05):
and another friend of mine, amyDial, well as well, she's also
been on your podcast.
The Lord called her and I to goto Kerrville not too long ago
after the floods.
But before we went he said goback to Washington on the Brazos
.
And what he showed us is sothat town.
It's a very small, historictown.
It's on the Brazos River, whichis one of the biggest rivers in
Texas, and Brazos is actuallyshort for the full name of the
river is Rio de los Brazos dedios, which means river of the
arms of god.

(10:26):
And yeah, when the spanishsettlers fell upon this river,
they literally thought that theywere dying.
They didn't have water.
They thought that they had mettheir end.
And then, when they discoveredthis river, they literally felt
they fell into the arms of god,and that's why it's named that.
And the lord said take thewater from the Brazos, because
during the revival in 1840,people were actually baptized in

(10:49):
the Brazos River.
And here's another key thingthat revival, I found online,
was a spirit-filled revival, notjust Wow, right.
And so he said I'll get jugs ofwater from the Brazos, the
river of the arms of God, andbring it to Curva, where there's
just been flooding and so muchparting, and poured into the

(11:10):
Guadalupe River.
The Guadalupe River turns outGuadalupe means Valley of the
Wolves.
So we took the water from theriver of the arms of God to pour
it into the river of the Valleyof the Wolves, valley of the
wolves.
And we were there with leaders,um, church leaders in that area

(11:30):
just declaring freedom andpurity to that river and that
life, yes, river of life, yeah,in jesus name.
And what the lord showed mewhile that was happening he
showed me texas and he showed mea heart in the middle of texas
and that heart was curvil rightthere in the heart of texas.
And he showed me these riversflowing out from the heart of
Texas and he showed me theserivers flowing out from the
heart of Texas and I could seeit going out throughout the
whole I'm just going to say thewhole nation of Texas, because

(11:52):
that's what I'm feeling rightnow, and I know it would have
ripple effects into the rest ofthe United States.
I saw this heart with all theserivers flowing out of it.
I knew that what God was doingthere with the redeeming of land
and just every other things,that he's got other teams coming
in for worship and all sorts ofthings and the churches, that
what happens there was going tostart flowing throughout the

(12:14):
state.
Well, right after that hebrought me to John 738, where it
says he that believes in me, asthe scriptures have said, out
of his heart will flow rivers ofliving water.
And if you look at John 7, 39,the very next verse, it
specifically says that thoserivers of living water are

(12:34):
rivers of the Holy Spirit.
And he's saying that Kerrvillewas quote baptized in water, but
it's now about to experience abaptism in the Holy Spirit,
speaking in tongues, power ofGod coming down and that is
what's going to flow out throughthe state of Texas, that's
what's going to ripple effectinto the rest of the United
States and word after word isconfirming online.

(12:54):
I'm seeing so much fire uponthe water and about the about it
.
We have entered into a placewhere the Holy Spirit is about
to explode, into a place wherethe Holy Spirit is about to
explode.
It says in Acts 2, 17, that inthe last days that God will pour
out his spirit on all flesh.
And that was the thing too.
The leaders of the church inKerbal one was saying how

(13:17):
there's so much disunity and Godwas saying like when this
revelation of the Holy Spirit?
Because this has been withheldfrom so many churches, because
the enemy is terrified.
If we get this, because God israising up a powerful church, he
is raising up his remnant bride, we're about to prove in power
like the church has never seenbefore.

(13:38):
There is a shift.
We know it just happened.
We know it just happened.
Know it just happened.
We know it just happened.
And when and when therevelation, the truth, really
hits the church of the power ofthe holy spirit and what they
have not been stepping into,that's going to start unifying
not just in curvil, not just intexas, but throughout our nation
.
Not just our nation, butthroughout the globe.

(13:59):
We are about to see fire spread.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
Yes, yeah we're seeing the, the, the onset of
that.
Would you like to share alittle bit more, because we

(14:25):
we're in the, the, the scripttruly like.
Do you want to get after thatlike?

Speaker 2 (14:31):
I'd love to so when that happened.
Um, first of all, I'm justgonna say the lord, actually, as
grieved as I, the Lord saidthis needed to happen.
So don't think that this wasjust an.

(14:51):
This was an enemy attack that,you know, blindsided God.
He didn't fall off the throne.
He actually allows things for acertain time.
I heard a word from KentChristmas, who also mentioned.
He mentioned about the man whowas lame for 40 years and people
asked well, why is this thecase?
Did he sin?
What does his parents do?

(15:12):
And Jesus said, no, the lifehe's lived has been because he's
to act as a marker for what I'mdoing.
And that's exactly what CharlieKirk's life is.
His life was to act as a marker, yeah, for what I'm.
I'm doing and that's exactlywhat charlie kirk's life is.
His life was to act as a marker,and god has taken as a
consideration everything,including, of course, his wife,

(15:34):
erica, and their two children.
I know he's gonna, he's gonna,his hand is gonna cover them.
I know it's hard, but he'sgonna use them and he's gonna
cover them.
Um, but he showed me also, um,just how much this is going to
ignite the true bride and we canget into that too um, the true
remnant, the bride of christ,that the warrior bride.

(15:55):
We are closer to the coming ofour king, closer than we realize
, because we're like, oh, it'slike, you know, he's coming for
a clean and spotless bride.
Well, our understanding of whothe bride really is hasn't
actually been true.
So when you get to see who thebride really is, we are there,
the bride is ready and she'sready to go, and that's what

(16:17):
we're seeing a step up in andand it's neat because I felt um
prompted to look up the meaningof charlie kurt's name- yeah and
the name charlie means warrioror free man, and kurt's church.
Yeah, his name means warrior ofthe church and by his death and
the army of god is rising up.

(16:38):
Yes, and it is time.
It's time for us to.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
It's time, it's time for us to it's time.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
It's time.
And then, in addition to that,going to the marker, I saw all
the words were coming out justconfirming that exact thing.
And I remember seeing one byNate Johnson, who knows a
prophetic voice from Australia,who was actually here in the
United States for many years.
They're back in Australia now,but in one of his posts he said

(17:05):
what if Charlie Kirk's passingwas a prophetic timestamp of an
ineffective and weak churchbreathing its last and the lion
church coming out of slumber?
If that doesn't hit it on thehead, I don't know what does.
And after I read the fullmessage that he had there, the
full word, the Lord said now Iwant you to look up Erica's name

(17:28):
.
What does Erica mean?
So I looked up Erica's name,the name Erica when it's spelled
E-R-I-K-A means ever powerful.
Put that with the last name,kirk, meaning church, and her
name means the ever powerfulchurch, which is exactly the
remnant bride, the triumphantchurch that we're talking about

(17:50):
right now.
That's about that.
That is rising up, not evenabout to it, it's happening.
It is happening and it's neattoo, because when she gave her,
um, her address, um, let mefirst of all, two days after her
husband had passed, thestrength in this woman that God
has placed in her is justamazing.

(18:12):
And one thing she said is youhave no idea the fire that you
have ignited within this wife.
And someone pointed out whichI'm like oh, it's exactly right.
She's like she may have thoughtthat she was talking about
herself, but she was talking onbehalf of the bride of Christ.

Speaker 1 (18:28):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
Let me read this coming from the perspective of
the bride of Christ, sayingthese words about our husband
Jesus.
You have no idea the fire thatyou have ignited within this
wife, the bride of Christ.
The cries of this widow wereecho around the world like a
battle cry to everyone listeningtonight, across America.

(18:49):
The movement my husband andI'll interject Jesus, the
movement my husband Jesus builtwill not die.
And she is a nester, she is awarrior leader for the church
right now.
She is a voice for the otherand other voices are stepping up
and we are.

(19:10):
It's amazing because god is.
He's actually releasing twoarmies.
He's releasing the army of thebride and he's releasing the
army of youth and he's givenboth armies.
These are both armies of his.
He's given both the voice oftruth, because there's too much
lies that the father of lies is.
What we're dealing with andthat's why it's so dark is

(19:32):
because the father of lies hasbeen taking over.
It's been infiltrating amongour children, among our families
, among our government, our youknow, just everywhere,
throughout.
You know, not just our country,in the world, that we know, and
it's going to be the voice oftruth that cuts the darkness.
It's the word of God and thelight of God that the darkness
cannot comprehend, it cannotextinguish, it cannot overcome.

(19:55):
And it's time now.
It's time for us to say youknow, when God created heaven
and earth, he said let there belight.
Well, it's our turn now.
Tag you're it, let there belight.
It's time for us to say letthere be.
What do you want to see createdin your world?
We have the power to create.
It's time Let our voices bereleased, just like the voice of
God was released before thebeginning of foundation of this

(20:18):
earth.
It's time for our voices.
It's, tag you're it?

Speaker 1 (20:45):
It's our turn now, stopped.
It's like, it's like thisinferno, and I, I did.
I had a vision of um, of himalmost handing this torch.
It's like a literal you know, atthe olympics, where they hand,
it's like rather than a baton,it was a torch, and those of us

(21:06):
who are carrying the fire likewe are called to, let that
inferno, you know, go to othersand it's going to be like a
wildfire, because you can't likewildfires, it's hard to contain
wildfires and that's what we'reseeing right now.
This is like a global wildfire.
Could you talk like you know?

(21:27):
We're also seeing on the flipside of that.
Just, you know, hard to seethings, the way, the vile, the
evil response to some of whatwe're seeing.
Like could you speak to that alittle bit, like what you're
sensing on that side?
Because, um, I think there'sagain.
There's like we're goingthrough these periods of time

(21:48):
where there's a line in the sandand a dividing line in essence
like the wheat and the taresright.
Would you share?

Speaker 2 (21:57):
what you're seeing.
We have come to a place wheregod, um, he keeps showing me a
checkerboard where it's blackand white squares.
And if you look at acheckerboard where it's black
and white squares, and if youlook at a checkerboard, it's two
armies there's a white army anda black army.
And he's giving me the word.

(22:20):
Capitulate concerning the blackarmy Capitulate, I should look
it up, but it basically has.
It means to surrender, and weare in a place where there is no
gray area anymore.
It is black and white, and heis literally saying choose this
day, whom you will serve,because he has drawn the line in
the sand.
The battle lines have beendrawn.
And when you say the battlelines have been drawn, the
actual meaning of that meansthat the points of contention

(22:42):
have been established and thefighting can now begin.
But the thing is, the fightingthat we're about to enter into
it's a blitzkrieg.
That's another word he's givenme.
What's a blitzkrieg means?
Um, I'm gonna have toparaphrase these because I don't
have the definitions in frontof me but a blitzitzkrieg is a

(23:04):
military campaign that producesa very quick and mighty victory.
Very quick and mighty victory.
Okay, guess what?
Better?
Make sure you're on the winningteam.
You don't want to be on theblack side.
It is, it is, it is.
I mean, the black is black, thewhite is white.
We know that the line has beendrawn and you cannot.

(23:24):
Don't ride the fence.
Here's another thing I rememberreading in a book I think it's
got yeah, live before you die byDaniel Kalenda, and he was
sharing a dream that a friend ofhis had, where he said in this
dream his friends saw, saw afield, a big field, and then and

(23:45):
there were actually two bigfields and there was a fence
between the two fields.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
One field belonged to God and the other field
belonged to the devil.
Well, in this dream, his friendwas sitting on the fence and
the devil pops up out of theground and his field, grabs him
and yanks him into the field andhe's like hey, hold on Timeout,
Timeout.
I wasn't in your field.
I was on the fence, and thedevil goes.

(24:11):
The fence belongs to me too.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
Somebody needs to hear that.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
We cannot compromise.
There is no room for compromise, none.

Speaker 1 (24:23):
So somebody is listening right now and they're
like, well, how do I get off thefence?
What does that look like for mein this time?

Speaker 2 (24:30):
It's obedience and surrender.
Obedience and surrender, it'sturning away from your own
agenda, from your own desires,laying down your flesh.
It's an issue of alignment whoare you aligning with which?
Are you aligning with the armyof light or the army of darkness

(24:51):
?
And there are things in ourlives that we think, oh, they're
so insignificant and they don'tmatter.
And that's how the devil getsin.
He has been using things like,you know, vampires and all these
crazy things that he'sinterjected into the culture
among kids to reel them in, andit isn't always just the blatant
thing like that.
I mean, we have to be reallysensitive to.

(25:13):
You know the music.
I'm listening to the movies.
I'm watching the music.
I'm listening to the movies.
I'm watching the clothes I'mwearing.
Is this honoring God?
Or is this actually partneringwith the wrong side?
Because then you give thatenemy a foothold to get in there
.
And it's very real, it's veryreal and we don't have any.

(25:38):
There's no room to be messingaround with this.
I was watching a video not toolong ago, um, about, uh, someone
who had been a Satanist.
And they came to the Lord, um,and they were talking about what
is the key thing?
He's, and I actually rememberhearing this word from somebody
else.
I remember going to aconference where, um, somebody,
uh, one of the pastors had givena testimony about a warlock
that he was speaking with, whoI'm sorry, he's not a warlock

(26:01):
anymore, he was, once upon atime he got radically saved and
but the guy who used to be awarlock, he was explaining to
the pastor that we can see afire in Christians and we could.
We can see a flame, let me putit that way.
And, and so that's how we knowwho's a christian, because we
can see a flame.

(26:22):
And then we can like, terrorizeand deal with.
You know, snuff them out, he'slike.
But there are some christianswho have a raging fire and
they're the ones who snuff usout.
The burning ones, right, sobetter.
I mean, this is a time where,wherever you are in your
christian walk, do not.

(26:44):
There's no room for beinglukewarm.
God said himself in revelation.
He's like, if you're lukewarm,I'm going to spit you out.
Better, yet, I'm going to vomityou out.
That's his exact words.
There is no room for compromise.
And in this other video that Iwatched more recently about
someone who used to be aSatanist, he said the key things
that gives the church authorityto trample on the snakes and on

(27:05):
the serpents and on every evilwork of hell is surrender and
obedience.
Hell has nothing againstsurrender and obedience.
Hell has nothing againstsurrender and obedience.
That's the whole reason thatthe devil and his demons fell
from hell I mean heaven to beginwith.
They're angels, we know, butthey're demons now because they

(27:25):
did not surrender.
They took everything uponthemselves, made themselves
glorious and God's like I havegot no room for that and out
they went.
And for all any one of us, who,who partners with that in any
capacity, guess what.
But if we surrender, I meantruly surrender.
The bride of Christ is a pure,a pure and spotless bride.

(27:51):
Purity People in this culturewe see purity.
People say, oh, it's like youknow.
You know, if you're purityyou're wound too tight and like
you know you must get a goodytwo-shoes.
No, purity is power.
It's power like even thinkabout like a car.
If you have a car and you don'thave clean gasoline in your car
it's not going to run well.

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But if you've got this sportscar and you want it to run like
at full, full, powerful capacity, you're going to put pure, high
octane gasoline in that car youneed to be careful about what
we're compromising with.
There is no room no room andthat's the line that's been
drawn.
That is so clear.
Now, with the passing ofcharlie kirk, it's like now

(28:35):
these voices are rising up.
Now you can see clear as daywho's on what side, and you
better make it quick.
Hop over to the white side, hopover to the army of light as
soon as you can and make it awholehearted.
The key thing, too, is we needto make Jesus our Lord, not just
our savior, but our Lord.
Too many people who are likeoh've got the, I've got the.

(28:56):
Um, oh, what's that, that term?
Um, I've got you know thatsafety net of like, oh, I'm
gonna get into into heaven, youknow my fire escape, that's it,
I got my fire escape, I'm inheaven.
Yeehaw, I'm good.
No, no, if you just see him asyour savior and and you're just
like getting the ticket to rideinto heaven, that's not uh-uh.

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We need to make him not justour savior but our Lord, and
that's what this book alsoenters into.
It's like what does it reallymean, when we really truly make
him our Lord, not just of onecorner of our soul, but our
whole, entire soul, to be trulybecome one with him?
What are the promises, theblessings, the authority that
we're walking in.
But what this book goes into isa whole different level than

(29:42):
the church has known, and it's awhole to us, because we are
entering into a whole newdimension of what Jesus died to
give the church.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
Well, tell us a little bit as much as you are
open to sharing about the book,without giving too much away,
because we really want people tograb the book and read the
whole thing, like from cover tocover.
I was like this woman has beenin the secret place and this is
not something that somebody canjust conjure up.

(30:12):
So tell us a little bit moreabout you.
Know what can you expect whenyou open up the pages of this
book?
And you know what was heshowing you?

Speaker 2 (30:23):
Yeah, yeah, it was a wonderful experience and it
still is.
He would wake me up in themiddle of the night and just
start downloading and I wouldtake notes on my phone.
Or I'd wake up in early in themorning and he would just start
speaking to me.
And notes on my phone.
Or I'd wake up in early in themorning and he would just start
speaking to me and I knew it waslike I don't even know how to
pull all this together.
I'm just going to sit down andjust type I'm just taking
dictation, Lord, and he wassnapping my synapses.

(30:52):
We can't come into this with areligious spirit.
We can't come into thinkingthat everything we know about
the church is everything thatthere is, Because, as he even
points out in the very beginning, there is so much more to this
than you know.
Yeah, so should I just?

(31:13):
should I go ahead and explainwhat the bridal process is
Because I think that may beimportant to even the rest of
our, I think I think, could you,if you could do that?

Speaker 1 (31:21):
I want to just make a little stop for a second.
If somebody hears likereligious spirit, like if you
could just very briefly explainwhat that is for somebody maybe
doesn't know what that is areligious spirit is a spirit.

Speaker 2 (31:36):
Um, so you may know the difference between religion
and relationship.
Um, if you don't, religion isreally having a set of rules and
doing things out of obligationand trying to do things to be
quote perfect in god's eyes andyour heart's not really into it,
you don't really have thatrelationship.

(31:57):
It gives room for us to getpuffed up in self-righteousness
and to point out the flaws thatwe think we see in other people.
It blocks the ability of theHoly Spirit to really speak to
us.
It comes from a place where wemay not realize, but there may
be brokenness in our past that'scausing those kind of ideas

(32:18):
that you know, because we wantto protect our own hearts and
you know we unknowingly stepinto places of pride and to
cover shame, and thinking thatwe know certain things when we
haven't had the true revelationcan gloss over the reality of
what's really going on in oursouls.

(32:40):
Um, I know that's maybe a lot toexplain of, like, what really
it is to be religious whenyou're in a relationship.
It's, it's the love of thefather.
We step into sonship, we get tono longer slaves, no longer
orphans.
Where it's, we flow in thisrelationship where we get to
know the lord and I orphanswhere it's we flow in this
relationship, where we get toknow the lord, and I don't mean
know of him, know what, you knowwhat the word says about him,

(33:02):
but to really know him.
Yes, and he knows us.
And it's no longer doing thingsbecause we've got to, but doing
things because we get to.
Yes, from the gut to the get to.
Yes, it's the joy, it's a, andthat's where the power of god
flows and that's where thatintimacy flows.

(33:22):
And so, if you aren't in thatspace right now, it's going to
be really easy reading this bookand going, oh, this, this can't
be right, this can't be right.
But if you are, lay yourweapons at the door and just let
your heart be open to receivewhat the holy spirit, what the
father, wants to say to you.

(33:44):
Because what he's saying isthis what he has for us is for
all of us.
It's just who will receive yeahhow, what we're willing, you
know, what we receive, what webelieve and in any area of our
christian walk.
God can only heal the areasthat we allow him into.
And, in the same way, what thisbook presents is new levels of

(34:08):
our stepping into authority andblessing.
And we can only access thosenew levels to the degree that
we're willing to allow ourselvesto receive it and allow the new
thing that God is doing.
It may seem new to us, but hehad this planned out since
before the beginning of thefoundation of the earth.

(34:29):
It's new to us, but it's notnew to him.

Speaker 1 (34:32):
It just reserves certain things for a specific
moment in time, and it's timenow for these new revelations to
come yeah, and just the I meanjust we were talking about this
before just the timing that heuh gave you the book birthday of
what.
What was what's so significantabout it?
Can you share a little bitabout that?

Speaker 2 (34:54):
Absolutely so.
The book birthday is September22nd and the reason and I had
actually asked him, lord, whendo you want me to birth this
book?
And he highlighted September22nd for me, which happens to be
Rosh Hashanah, which is thebeginning of the Jewish new year
, and so that in itself speaksof a crossing over into a new.

(35:18):
It speaks of new beginnings,new birth, and and so
immediately when I saw that, Ihop online and I'm like, okay,
so what is what Jewish new year?
Is it this year?
It's the year Jewish new yearof 5786.
So like, okay, what does thatmean prophetically?
So I went out, you know, I IGoogled that and I fell on on

(35:39):
this, um, this article that's,that says that the Jewish new
year five seven, eight, six iswill be the year when we
officially begin to occupy ourpromised land.
And is that not what isstirring up right now?
It is time to occupy ourpromised land, and the author of

(36:03):
the article also emphasizedIsaiah 54, which speaks about,
says seeing a barren woman whohas not had children, because
you're going to have morechildren than even the married
wives have had.
And that's been a word that'sbeen for me personally, because
I'm not married, I don't havechildren, but I have had an
intimate relationship with Jesusas my husband for many, many,

(36:24):
many years.
And Isaiah 54, I mean there'sbeen a promise of revival.
And those children speak to therevival of all waves and waves
of God's children coming in tohis house, coming home, coming
to stretch out those tent pegsthis is a massive tent but also

(36:46):
Isaiah 54 speaks to the factthat it says your maker is your
husband and it's all aboutcoming into a place of oneness
with him.
And that's what this book alsodives into.
What is it truly, truly mean tobe one with christ?
What does that open us up to inthe limitlessness of heaven, of

(37:10):
what jesus died to give us, ofwhat we have access to when we
start putting, when we stopputting the barriers before the
Lord and we give him free reignto move us into higher echelons
that we never imagined.
And the book also deals with,of course, because it's called
the Bridal Covenant of the Bride, that Bride Army raising up.

(37:33):
And that's the other neat thingwith September 22nd, because
Rosh Hashanah is also in tandemwith Yom Teruah, which is the
Feast of Trumpets, which hasalways been highlighted as
signifying.
You know, there's a strongbelief that when Jesus does come
, it's going to be on the Feastof Trumpets, because it's all
about declaring, you know,welcoming the coming king, you

(37:55):
know, as we understand it.
So there's so many markers inthis.

Speaker 1 (38:04):
There's like ah this is the day for this book to be
released.
Yeah, when I love.
You know, part of like, thework and the walk that we did
together was, you know, likeI'll ask questions, right, I've
you know, it's.
It's that's part of what I do isasking questions, and initially
I'd asked when you were goingto release the book.
Do you remember?
And, and there's such a like,what would you say to somebody

(38:30):
who you know we can, we can comeup with these dates and think
that we've got the plan?
You know, it kind of goes intothe obedience surrender piece.
So even though you had thisidea of April, we look now at
this moment in time, so we lasta little bit about that yeah we

(38:52):
first spoke was.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
You said december 13th.
And you asked me, after we didour podcast, when, okay, a book
has to be written.
And then so, and I knew itneeded it too.
And then you asked me before wegot off okay, let's set a date
when?
When is it going to be writtenby?
And I said april, um, whichsounded great in my eyes, but
the lord had something else inmind, because he just continued

(39:15):
to download even past April.
So I'm like all right, it's nottime yet.
And here he is, it's a what.
It's the middle of Septemberand he's saying it's time to
launch.
And that's exactly what Ninemonths from when first, the
conception, literally theconception of the book book baby

(39:40):
.
It's the nine month gestationalperiod that is complete and it's
time for this baby to come, andthe timing in line with, as we
said, what just happened withregard to charlie kirk, with
regard to the army of the briderising up, this, this book, is a
handbook written for that army,the house of the bride.
This was written specifically,not just for the church at large

(40:03):
, but for the specific army ofthe bride that is rising up with
that fire, like you're saying,I felt the fire too, and I
actually I love what you'resaying about that torch, because
I felt the same thing too wherethere's a fire that's hidden in
each one of us and Charlie Kirkhad a torch and I saw this fire
in each one of our beings gowhoosh, like it was.

(40:23):
Like it was like these fireswere dormant and it's time for
them to ignite.
And we are in a place and andthis book is right in tandem
with everything that God's doingright now and it is a word for
the rising church, for thetriumphant church.
It is a because we know I haveseen, or heard, or imagined what

(40:47):
God has in store.
And this book starts to peelback the veil on what we're
really entering into and how tofunction into the in that place
yeah, absolutely so.

Speaker 1 (41:00):
you know, for those who, for whatever reason, maybe
they aren't able to access thebook, which we would, I'll, you
know, put it in the show notes,of course.
But if, for some reason,somebody's not able to access
the book and they're insomewhere just happening to hear
this podcast, like how cansomebody like function in this
time that we're in like fullyfiery, functioning freedom

(41:26):
fighters?
That's a big word, I'm hearinggoodbye yesterday.

Speaker 2 (41:41):
Um, so let me, let me go ahead and tell you what the
essence of the bridal covenantis, what that covenant is, um,
so this is a revelation that godhad given me actually years ago
, I want to say about 15 yearsago.
And when I started downloading,I'm like whoa, that's, it was
too much for me.
Even then I mean I was like, uh, this I can't share.
This.
People are gonna think I havethree heads.
So I capped it to myself andthen it breathed and then back

(42:07):
and I think it was oh gosh, Ihave to look at the dates.
I think it was September oflast year when my friend Jimmy
passed away.
The book opens up with his, andit was out of that that God
started downloading things andhe brought back what he had told
me 15 years prior about thebridal covenant and then took it

(42:31):
a whole lot further.
And and so let me just say,when God says something, of
course it's always importantwhen God speaks, but what God
will typically do is, when hehas something like a message, he
wants to just really drive homethat under no uncertain terms.
Do you pass by what I'm sayingright now?
This is set in stone and not tobe taken lightly.

(42:55):
I've found that when he hasthat kind of message and not to
be taken lightly, I've foundthat when he has that kind of
message, he'll either say itthree times, like I even
mentioned in my book how, whatwe know you know John 3, 16,
those words in John 3, 16 arementioned three times in John 3,
because it's so important whenhe says it three times that he
is driving and nailing it.
Even the angels in, you know, inthe throne room, they go holy,

(43:19):
holy, holy, three times, just,over and over again, because
there are no words to convey howholy God is.
The only way that they can putany legitimate emphasis on it is
to say it three times.
So I knew that when he gave methis word, that he was putting
his finger again on that three.

(43:40):
And what he'll also dosometimes he'll say things three
times sometimes, but othertimes that he's done for me
personally, over and over andover and over again is he'll
show me a progression of threes.
Well, he'll give me threedifferent messages, but I can
see that they're connected andit's one building upon the other
, building upon the other.
And he says this over and overagain.
And so what he, when he showedme about the bridal covenant, I

(44:04):
knew it was him and it was.
I know his voice and I know hispresence and I know his word
and what he was doing and whathe is doing and what he's he's
shared, even since then.
So so here it is.
So we know there's the Old oldtestament, which is the old
covenant, and we know thatthere's a new testament, the new
covenant, which is what we'reliving into living in right,

(44:27):
right now.
But what the lord is saying?
He said, but said but there isyet another covenant set for us.
It's a third covenant, he saidit's called the bridal covenant
and it's a covenant that we willenter into when we get to
heaven, and it is talk aboutlimitlessness, talk about moving

(44:49):
and everything.
I don't even.
There are no words to explainand I don't have a full
understanding of yet.
This is still new to me.
I'm growing in it as well.
No words to explain and I don'thave a full understanding of
yet.
This is still new to me.
I'm growing in it as well.
But I know it's there for us,and the key thing is that what
the Lord is saying is that thosewhose hearts are toward me, who

(45:12):
have gone through the fire, whohave allowed me to purify them,
who have surrendered their lifefor me, those who are truly a
part of the company of the bridethe true bride we are going to,
we have full access to thatcovenant even now, on this side,
before we get to heaven.
And let me just back up a bittoo.

(45:33):
Because so, if we go back tothe beginning, let's go back to
the Old Testament again.
Because so, if we go back tothe beginning.
Let's go back to the OldTestament again.
So even in the Old Testament,the prophets of the Old
Testament, they knew thatanother covenant was coming.
They knew that Jesus was, thatthe Messiah was coming and they

(45:54):
knew that there was a whole newrealm that was coming with him.
They had a wish and shadows ofit, but they didn't have a full
understanding of it, but theyknew it was coming.
Well, we now live in the NewTestament and we experience this
relationship with the Lord andwe're getting to walk in that
covenant that the prophets ofold only had small glimpses of
right.

(46:14):
Well, now let's take that wholeconcept that you know what the
prophets of old wereexperiencing and let's take that
whole concept that you knowwhat the prophets of old were
experiencing and let's placethat on us.
Remember, a new covenant cameon the heels of jesus coming.
He came and then we enteredinto new.
Well, he's coming again.
And there's another covenant onthe side, other side of that, in
the new, we have wisps andshadows of a millennial reign.

(46:38):
We know that there's somethinggreater, but we don't know the
full gist of what that reallymeans.
Yes, but it's very real and wecan experience it now.
Honestly, with all that'shappened this past week with
regard to this crossover that weare now experiencing of the

(47:01):
army of God truly beingjet-propel into its calling, we
have crossed over into thatplace where, now that bridal
covenant is fully ours to access, we have crossed over into that
point.

Speaker 1 (47:21):
Yeah, I feel it.

Speaker 2 (47:24):
Yeah.
So here's my question toeveryone listening Will you lay
down what you have been holdingon to and embrace the new?
It's going to take surrenderthe new.
It's going to take us.
It's going to take surrender.

(47:44):
It's going to take reallyputting our heart to the
heartbeat of God and allowinghim to move us into those new
places without us tight,gripping, white knuckled onto
what we think we know, becausethis isn't Kansas anymore, toto.
To what we think we knowbecause this isn't kansas
anymore.
Toto, we have.
We have crossed over.
Yeah, it is a whole newexperience and things happen
differently here and we cannotrely on what we've known from

(48:07):
the past to function in this newspace.
The world desperately needs thebride, the true bride, to raise
up into her rightful position.
It's dependent on us Taking,grasping hold of what is now
provided for us and running withit full on, not compromising,

(48:29):
not putting a foot in the sand,just releasing completely and
trusting.
And that's why the move of theHoly Spirit is so powerful and
where we are right now becauseit's going to take the fire of
the Holy Spirit.
It's going to take trusting theHoly Spirit.
I myself have been in placeswhere it's like I want to have
all my ducks in a row, I want tohave my bullets on what's to
speak about, and the Holy Spiritis like no, just open your

(48:53):
mouth, let me fill it, just stepforward, give me room to do
without you getting in the way.
I heard it once said.
Chris valentine said this inone of his books I think it was
um the supernatural way ofroyalty.
He said if you really want tosee the holy spirit move, you've
got to be willing to let it getmessy.

(49:14):
We don't like that.
We like perfection.
We like everything to be in itsplace.
We don't want to like feel likeperfection.
We like everything to be in itsplace.
We don't want to like feel likeembarrassed of oh no, I didn't
get it right.
Well, we don't have to worryabout that, because the Holy
Spirit is when you allow to takeover.
He's going to be far above andbeyond anything we could imagine
, but we have to be willing tostep out of the boat on the
water and actually let him do it.
Yes, it.

Speaker 1 (49:35):
Yes, I mean, if you look back, I mean just even over
this, the beginning of thisyear, since you know we had the
last podcast to now, like, whatwould you say that has looked
like for you?

Speaker 2 (49:48):
It is a different place.
It really it is a differentplace.
I mean well, just growing withthe Lord, and I mean the honor
of getting to witness everythingthat he's saying, getting to
sit at his feet and let him.
I mean that's really where I'vejust been just hidden, hidden
with him.
But in even in my own personallife, though, as you know, he's

(50:11):
as you personally know, he'smoved me out of.
I mean, I was a graphicdesigner for for 30 years.
I had my own business, my owndesign firm, and he said I want
you to let go of that and stepinto full-time ministry.
I'm like, how am I going tofeed myself?

Speaker 1 (50:29):
The big question that people ask is how, how?

Speaker 2 (50:33):
But the how is not up to us.
I remember the very first timeyou and I met over that and I
said I could.
It's clear as day, I could seeit.
My foot is in a mud hole.
I got one foot in a mud hole.
I mean it was like my boot isin the mud hole and it was so
thick it's like to try to evenpull it out.

(50:53):
You couldn't pull it out andthere would be such as just
suction of, like you, you know,trying to get out of the mud
hole.
And so while I got one foot inthe mud hole, off to the side I
see this river of living waterthat's sparkling and alive and
it's fresh and it's full of life.
And I'm like, oh my gosh, it'slike how do I?
That's where I need to be inthat flow.

(51:15):
And here I am with my foot in amud hole, which I realized
later was actually the mud holewas part of a river that I used
to be in that flow.
And here I am with my foot in amud hole, which I realized
later was actually the mud holewas part of a river that I used
to be in, that had dried up andit was time to move.
He had actually given me aprophetic word back in 2009.
Someone walked up to me whilemy business was booming and said
you're going to have a BrookCarradeth experience I'm like

(51:35):
what?
And he said a Brook Carradethexperience.
Elijah was at the BrookCarradeth experience.
I'm like what?
And he said a Brooke Carradethexperience.
Elijah was at the BrookeCarradeth when Israel was in
famine and the Lord fed him withfood from ravens and brought
him, and he had the water of theriver, and so the Lord
sustained him.
And he said the Lord's going tosustain you in your business.

(51:57):
You're going to come to a timewhere there's going to be famine
, but the Lord's going tosustain you in your business.
You're going to come to a timewhere there's going to be famine
, but the Lord's going tosustain you.
But then, eventually, even thatriver is going to dry and it
has to dry up.
It dried up for Elijah.
It's going to have to dry upfor you and he knows it has to
dry up because he knows that youwill not leave your business,
what you're doing, unless itdries up.
And if you look at in, I thinkit was second Kings.
You know when?

(52:17):
When Elijah left the river?
Um, that's when the miraclesreally began to happen.
That's where he met the widow,who all she had was the flour
and the oil, and and themultiplication happened there
and and her son was raised fromthe dead and all these things
started happening, but he had toleave the river.
So for anyone out there who isstuck in a place because I have
heard this from so many of youum, maybe not necessarily those

(52:41):
listening, but I've heard frommany, like other friends of mine
they are in a place wherethey're stuck, they're tired of
what they're doing in theircareer.
They know there's more.
I know, kristin, you have doneit yourself.
You know what we're talkingabout.
Yes, it's scary, but when youdo it, oh my gosh.
Can I just tell you how greatit is to be in this place.

(53:04):
The flow, yeah, it is a wholenew world.

Speaker 1 (53:08):
It is a whole new world it truly is yeah, I like
to call it like you gotta getinto your, your assignment,
alignment, and like it's.
I think we've just been sosystematized and you know, I
think of it as like being cattleprodded.
You know, at some point in yourlife you were cattle prodded

(53:30):
into some path that it's hard tocome off of, unless you like
have this revelation with theLord that, hey, wait a minute
like this is not the fieldyou're to be in anymore.

Speaker 2 (53:43):
You made me for more.

Speaker 1 (53:46):
Yeah, there's a cry in many of us At least that was
my heart's cries.
There's more and I know, likein my heart's cries, I know that
there's others out there thathave that heart's cry.
So I want to help unlock thatheart's cry into what that thing
is, even if it makes no senseit doesn't, and that's the key
thing, it isn't about us.

Speaker 2 (54:06):
Yeah, like I couldn't write this book if I was still
busy doing what I was doing.
When we step into our call, itisn't just about us, because
what our call a call is to touch, is going to touch so many
people like Kristen, the waythat you've touched my heart
with with what you do, with yourcoaching, and all the other

(54:27):
people that you coach, of course, your podcast, just everything.
I mean.
There's lives are at stakeright now.
So anyone listening to this, ifGod's calling you out of the
boat, the people not only is Godgoing to thank you when you
make that step, but everybodyyou've been called to touch is

(54:47):
going to thank you because yourdecision is affecting their
lives too.
And again, we are in a placewhere it's hot.
Our world is in dire straits.
It needs what is in direstraits.
It needs what is in us.
It would be a sin for me not tostep out and go full-time with
the lord, because you know whatis that verse.
You know for him who knows whatto do and does not do it.

(55:08):
It is actually sin yeah, wow,yeah wow and what?

Speaker 1 (55:16):
what would keep most people from stepping into that
place?

Speaker 2 (55:20):
It's that comfort zone.
We all want to know what toexpect.
We all fear the unknown.
It's.
Do I really trust you, lord?
Do I really really trust you?
I know it's burning in my heart.
I know what it's calling me todo, but how?
And again, that how is not upto us.
Yeah, but when we take thosestep, when we do what we can do,

(55:43):
naturally he'll do everythinghe can do spiritually yeah and
it's going to be far and abovewhat we can imagine and it's
going to be fun.
Oh my gosh, the freedom, theflow in this river, yeah right,
oh life, oh my goodness, yeah,it's like it's like that.
We have this jet, you know,it's like, it's like you're

(56:05):
leaving the earth and you're,you're, you're, you're, now, you
know, in this fighter jet.
You know this, now you're inthe skies.
It's a whole differentdimension.
You can't compare being, youknow, tied to the earth with
soaring like an eagle exactlywe're not called to be chickens
or turkey.

Speaker 1 (56:26):
Those of you who are, you know, listening.
We're, you know, we're notputting anybody down in any way
here, but we are calling you torise up, like the word that I
keep hearing this last week isrise up and roar, and it's been
a word.
It's not like something thatI've just started speaking, but
it's like a clarion call,wouldn't she say?

Speaker 2 (56:45):
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (56:45):
And it's going to look different for everybody.
So there's this, there's thisword that's going out right now.
I am Charlie Kirk.
Well, I would say like yes,let's, let's have that boldness,
yes, let's have that tenacityand willing to go to places that
the Lord leads you, no matterwhat, but you need to know who

(57:07):
you are.

Speaker 2 (57:08):
Exactly, exactly.
You are not Charlie Kirk.
No, you're not.

Speaker 1 (57:12):
You'll never be him.
You're going to infiltrateplaces that he could never
infiltrate.

Speaker 2 (57:19):
Don't try to be him, because there's no power,
there's no authority in being anAssyrian personation of
somebody else.
There's only power in being theidentity that God has given you
.

Speaker 1 (57:29):
Yes, and that's that's a lot of where I believe
that he's really bringing usinto that place of really the
word is sequestering I don'tknow if this is the right way to
put it, but sequestering ouridentity, our destiny and, um,
you know, from there, like,let's go do wild exploits, and

(57:50):
here's the deal, like for youand I, like I know there's many
of us, many of us have been kindof in this more hidden place.
He's using the.
You know, like the disciples,you don't have to be put
together.
I like to say you don't need tobe perfectly put together to go

(58:12):
out and do the thing that he'scalling you to do, wouldn't you?

Speaker 2 (58:14):
agree Absolutely.
I'm a disciple we're talkingabout.
There was a thief, there's atax collector which everybody
hated.
There's a bunch of stinkingmessy fishermen.
I mean, these were not.
They were uneducated, and thatwas the key thing when the Holy
Spirit came upon them.
Even people in the crowdthey're like you know, they knew
that they were uneducated andnow look with the boldness that
they're speaking.

(58:35):
That's what the Holy Spiritdoes.
It doesn't matter what we bringto the table.
We bring our loaves and fishesand Jesus multiplies and goes
bonkers with it.
It's like when the Holy Spiritgets on you.
I mean I've known times when Iwas terrified to go up and speak
in places.
And then I go up and speak andthen my friends are like who is

(58:57):
that?

Speaker 1 (58:57):
I'm like, I don't know, like it's so beyond you
right, it is and it's so muchfun.

Speaker 2 (59:04):
But yeah, it is scary taking that leap.

Speaker 1 (59:06):
But once you do, it's worth it so worth it.
So worth it.
Well, this has been a joy.
I'll probably have to have youback on again, because I know
you have volumes of books coming.

Speaker 2 (59:19):
Yes, have you back on again, because I know you have
volumes of books coming.
Yes, I actually I'm working onthe study guide for this book
because I for the those who haveread it or like there's too
much in here and it's so goodand we don't want to pass it by.
So a dear friend of minementioned, you know, if we could
have a study guide, that wouldbe really helpful.
So I'm working on that rightnow.
I also have another book thatI'd started back in 2012, when
God began showing me about therevival coming, and then he took

(59:41):
me on literally the mostincredible adventure between
Washington DC and Israel backand forth for a number of
seasons, and he built upon it oneach trip and with that, he
revealed a secret about ournation and Israel that will just
blow the socks off of you andwill give you the courage and

(01:00:03):
the encouragement, for we are soon the winning team.
This is such a done deal.
We are the triumphant churchand it's just really neat.
I won't get into that one,obviously, right now, but
that'll be coming shortly, uh,you know, soon as well.
So, and of course, there'sothers.
The very first prophetic word Iwas given was when I was 16

(01:00:27):
years old and I wasn't evenwalking with the lord at that
time.
I had technically given myheart to him when I was six
years old, but then I ran and,know, sowed my wild oats, um,
and then came to him, uh, in2000, and it was just nuts from
there, amazing.
But anyway, when I was 16, mymom was having a Bible study or

(01:00:51):
just a group of friends in herhouse and I came downstairs and
they had just finished up andone of the leaders there um me a
prophetic word and said I seethat you are going to be writing
multiple books.
And I just about spat andlaughed in his face because I
hated to read.
I couldn't write.
To save my life, I was actuallykicked out of an English class

(01:01:13):
because I couldn't write anddemoted.

Speaker 1 (01:01:17):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (01:01:19):
But here we are.
It's quite a few years pastthat, and this is what God can
do.
That's why do not limityourself.
When Holy Spirit gets up, it'sjust yeah.
The world cannot dictate yourlife it can't.
And all the more when you arein a position when you think
you're not capable, all the moreGod's like yes, because now you

(01:01:41):
are so dependent on me thatyou're not going to get in the
way.
I'm going to fill you up,because you're an empty vessel,
just just like you got nothingwithout me.
And so I get to have more, Iget to have full reign, and when
we let him have it, oh my gosh,it's so much fun, it's so
powerful, it's so exciting.
It just blows my mind.
It's amazing.

(01:02:01):
So so, yeah, out there.
I mean, don't hold back.
He, the word he gave me at thebeginning of 2023, was limitless
.
He wants to bring us into aspace that's limitless.
Just even stop and think whatthat would mean if your life was
limitless with the Lord, whatthat would mean if your life was
limitless with the Lord.
I mean it's.
There's so much more than wecan imagine.

Speaker 1 (01:02:22):
You can hit pause right now and take like five
minutes to do that Right.
Seriously, that's incredible.
I'm, I'm just so like proud ofyou, for just you know the
spiritual midwife over here, themama, the eagle mama.

Speaker 2 (01:02:38):
It's beautiful.

Speaker 1 (01:02:39):
You know well how can people find your book and
contact you, because I'm surepeople want to.
You know, get in touch with youand find your book.
What's the best way to find it?

Speaker 2 (01:02:51):
um, we can put my information um on the notes for
the podcast.
Um, facebook is a great placeto connect with me.
My book is going to beavailable on both Amazon, and I
have my own website, liveBrilliantly, so you can go to
livebrilliantlyorg or that'lltake you to the website as a
whole.

(01:03:11):
That also includes some theministry that I do that kind of
thing.
But if you want to go directlyto the book page where because
I'm not only doing my own book,I'm also publishing books for
others just started that, so Ididn't know that was included in
the prophecy too well, I wasn'tgonna ask.

Speaker 1 (01:03:27):
I wasn't sure I was getting ready for that
announcement.
Do you would take a moment?
Take a moment there if you'dlike okay, I would love to so.

Speaker 2 (01:03:36):
Um, I've been speaking with a number of
friends, you know, just monthsago.
There's so many of us arewriting books because there is
that word that God has placed inus, that, that voice of truth
that he's releasing in his army,and so many of us have these
books that have this word, thesebooks that he is releasing.
And so I had originally lookedat publishing with, you know, a

(01:03:58):
well-known Christian publishingcompany, and but when it really
came and actually signed up withthem, but when it came down to,
you know, really getting mybook published, I was like, well
, what can they do for me that Ican't do myself?
Because, being a designer forso long, I'm going to design my
book the way that I know itneeds to be, because I'm going

(01:04:19):
to have a more prophetic insightof what the design should be.
I'm going to be able to do abetter job than they would be
able to.
You know their own designers,so I'll just design my own.
Outside of that, you know,they'll put you up on Amazon and
all these other internationaldistributors.
Well, to be honest, I don't.
For me, those otherinternational distributors were

(01:04:41):
just worthless to me.
They had no value.
Yeah, putting it on Amazon'sgood and I could do that myself.
But I really believed also thatyou know as God takes me out,
because he had told me when Igot my van.
He said itinerant, so I knowhe's calling me out to be an
itinerant speaker, and that's heactually specifically said get
your book done, because you'regoing to need it when you go out

(01:05:02):
to speak.
So I feel that a lot of mysales are going to be out there.
You know, face-to-face with thepeople who you know who I'm
actually speaking to.
That's what I've had.
You know, some of my friendswere started asking when they
saw, like, when my book cover,like, oh my gosh, can you design
mine?
Can you start doing?
Can you do my book?
No, what does it take?
Do we have to go through?
You know those publishers.
So I started doing someresearch and no, the only

(01:05:23):
requirement you can set is likeset up your own company.
Like, well, I already have mydesign firm, so already got a
company.
Um then, yeah, just just the.
All the other details are allthings that I could take care of
.
So now I'm starting to publishbooks.
So live brilliantly.
Brilliantly is the name of theministry that I have, but I
didn't have Live Brilliantlypublications through that, which

(01:05:44):
is now publishing books, andhere's the thing.
So whenever I design the covers, I first of all I pray over
these books.
The revelation the Lord gave meyears ago was that you know, so
many of us, we, like you knowespecially.
I'll just speak about designers.
We'll just design.
You know what they think looksgood.
But identity has been such ahuge piece in my life, you know,

(01:06:06):
for so many years.
It was about my personalidentity and trying to find that
.
And then God moved me intocorporate identity with
designing for companies andtheir websites, logos, print
material.
So identity has always been big.
But the revelation he gave me,even when I was doing corporate
design, was, rather than tryingto, you know, figure out their
logo or come up with an idea,just ask god.
So I'd pray and I'd ask god.

(01:06:27):
He's like you know theiridentity, what's their identity?
And he would give me a dream,or he just drop in my spirit
what their logo looks like andboom, just like that.
I put it together and they'relike all right, we don't need to
see anything else, that's it.
How did you know?
Over and over and over again.
So he's given me a gift in thatarea and now I'm carrying it
over to God's righteous army todesign these books with that

(01:06:48):
same heart, with that sameprophetic insight.
And, of course, in addition tothat, you own all your content.
I'm not touching what the HolySpirit has given you.
I'm not going to edit out theHoly Spirit.
I mean I'll look over it forspelling, that kind of thing but
the words are your words andI'm here to help release your
word in such a time as this andget it out there.

(01:07:10):
So, yeah, if you're interested,if you've got a book to be
published and you want it to beunder the covenant of God, under
his prophetic holy fire, yeah,live Brilliantly publication.
So you can go.
As I mentioned,livebrilliantlyorg is my website
, but you can also go directlyto the book page.

(01:07:32):
Brilliantbooksorg will take youdirectly to that book section.
So you'll see some of mine areabout to come out.
You'll see one that I'vealready published for a friend
of ours.
And the key thing too, is whatthe Lord's also in my heart is
as he starts releasing me outthere to churches to speak, and
I know that it's going to be alot.

(01:07:53):
That's why I have this vanbecause it's mobile, so I can
get out there and do a lot ofspeaking engagements.
I'm going to be representingLive Brilliantly, which also
means I'm going to be bringingnot just my book, but I'm going
to be bringing printed books ofall those books that I publish.
So I'll be bringing your booksout there to be on the book
table, to also be right therewith the real audience that

(01:08:15):
you're targeting.
Not these, you know.
These pools out there of youknow have no idea what you're
putting your fish hook into.
No, this is, these are, theseare, this is the.
This is the church that'shungry for your message.
This is the church that needsyour message.
So I'll I'll be doing that aswell.

Speaker 1 (01:08:35):
So you guys, michelleelle, you're amazing.
I am so honored to be like yourfriend and sister in christ and
fellow fiery warrior um, andI'll be sure I'll be sure to put
all of her information in theshow notes.
Like I said, if you want to goback to episode 106 it was
released on 12, 13 of 24 andlisten to more of her story, um,

(01:08:59):
you're welcome to do that aswell.
Um, as we close today, wouldyou be open to?
Um.
You know, I always like to askpeople to just get in mind the
one person who's listening intoday.
Um, do you have any other likeknowledge, wisdom for them, a
word for them, and then wouldyou pray us out today?

Speaker 2 (01:09:21):
a word for them.
And then would you pray us outtoday, absolutely, um for the
one.
Uh, you are created for such atime as this.
God knows every detail of yourheart, every detail of where
you've been and every detail ofwhere he's going, and he's
mapped it out.
He's saying take my hand, justtake my hand.
I know the my hand, I know theway.
I know this is new territorybut it's familiar to me.
I know it well and I've got you.

(01:09:44):
Just follow my lead.
And what I have for you is moreamazing than you can possibly
imagine.
You know what I'm actuallyseeing right now.
I'm seeing okay, I know there'sthe you know thoughts back and
forth with, like, the littlemermaid movie.
I'm going back to a veryoriginal one, right, the Disney

(01:10:05):
cartoon.
I'm seeing the moment when shehas come up out of the sea and
she is in a chariot.
I guess, not a chariot, not achariot.
What is it when she's with thePrince?
You don't call that a chariot.
I guess, not a chariot, it'snot a chariot.
What is it when she's with theprince?
You don't call that a chariot.
You know, with a horse andcarriage.
She's in a horse and carriage.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, she's in ahorse and carriage with the

(01:10:27):
prince and he's bringing herinto his kingdom and showing her
this.
I'm getting chills with that.
This is yours.
This is what I'm getting chillswith that.

Speaker 1 (01:10:38):
This is what this is yours.

Speaker 2 (01:10:40):
This is what I'm bringing you into.
And she's just looking aroundand, oh my God, and if you can
compare that with under the seat, it's a whole different
dimension, totally different ofdimension.
She can't even I mean she's onfeet now she doesn't even I mean
like the whole way that sheeven functions.

(01:11:02):
she can't rely on what shefunctioned before yeah same kind
of things, because I know thatmen are also listening for this
too.
So you know that's may applymore, you know, resonate more
with women.
For men, consider this when anairplane is taxiing along a
runway, it's using a certainkinds of mechanisms necessary to

(01:11:24):
function here on the ground.
But when it's time for thatplane to take off, first of all
it has to be committed.
It can't hold back in any way,shape or form.
It has to be committed.
It can't hold back in any way,shape or form.
It has to be committed to thetakeoff.
And once it commits, it has toabandon the mechanisms it

(01:11:45):
functioned with on earth andembrace a whole new set of
mechanisms to function in theair.
That's where we're at.
So, lord Jesus, thank you.
Thank you, lord.
You are the alpha, you are theomega, you are the beginning,

(01:12:08):
you are the end and you knowevery detail in between.
And thank you, lord, so muchthat you have counted us worthy
to even get to participate andbe a part of what you are doing.
In these last days, lord, Ijust pray over each and every
person here, in the sound of myvoice, lord, god, that they

(01:12:31):
would take up their torch andthey would run with it, that
they would release their voiceand not hold back, run with it,
that they would release theirvoice and not hold back, lord
God, that the cords ofyesteryear would just fall off
them, dead and void, without anypower whatsoever, and that they
would soar on wings of eagles.
Lord, speak to your company,your bridal company, lord God.

(01:12:54):
Speak to your army, lord God,give them a definite alignment
with what is of you and what isnot of you.
There are two things that everysoldier knows going into battle
they know who the enemy is andthey know what side they're
fighting on.
But unfortunately for many ofus, we may know that the devil

(01:13:15):
is an enemy, but are we trulyfighting on the kingdom of light
, lord?
Let it be so apparent to eachand every one of us not to
compromise and to where to makethose adjustments, and that we
would do it willingly, lord God,and we would go full forward,
lord, with everything that youhave in store.
I thank you, lord, for the lightthat is ours.

(01:13:36):
Lord, you said that your lightso shine before men that they
may see your good works andglorify your father in heaven.
Lord, god, that we would enterinto that oneness that you're
talking about the oneness, lordGod, where there is no defining
line between where we start andyou end.
Lord God, we are one.
When we go and do a thing,you're doing it, god, we are one

(01:14:00):
.
When we go and do a thing,you're doing it, lord God.
When we move, we move in fullauthority.
Take it that we would fullygrasp what it really meant when
you said you have given us allauthority, lord, and also, as it
says in Ephesians 1, 3, it saysthat we have been given all the
blessings of Christ.
Lord, we are not tapping intoeven a fraction of what you
would die to give us, but it isavailable for us, lord, to live

(01:14:21):
and move and have our being inyou in these final days when the
world so desperately needs it.
Lord, lord, you desire so much,lord God, that none should
perish.
Let us not just think aboutourselves, lord God.
Let us think about our neighbor.
Let us think about the personon the side of the street, lord
God, let us shout from therooftops.

(01:14:43):
Let us shout with all our might, lord God, and not hold back,
not be intimidated, lord.
In the name of Jesus, I comeagainst every spirit of
intimidation that would dare tryto stop us.
Lord, break every stronghold offear.
In the name of Jesus, lord, letyour Holy Spirit fire roar upon
us, lord, god, ignite us thatwe would run the race, that we

(01:15:07):
would run for that prize, lord,god, and just as they've been
saying concerning Charlie Kirk,that we too, in our own identity
, in our own purpose, in our owncall, when we do arrive in
heaven, lord, we will each getthe well done, good and faithful
servant.
Lord, we praise you.
We praise you so much, lord.
We bless Erica, we bless herkids.

(01:15:28):
Lord, I thank you for thismighty move that you are doing,
not just in our nation butglobally.
Lord, god, let us set oursights on you and you alone,
lord, god, we do not focus on aman.
We do embrace, lord, the fullprophetic significance of what
this moment is, lord, but let ustake up ourselves and run with

(01:15:49):
everything that you have createdus to be.
Lord, that you would beglorified, that you would be
honored, that you would receiveall that is yours, lord, god,
that we would truly worship youin everything we say and do and
defeat hell for a living.
We praise you, we magnify you,we thank you, father, god, that

(01:16:09):
we get to be a part of yourperfect plan in the name of
Jesus, amen, amen and amen.

Speaker 1 (01:16:17):
Amen, all right, all right.
Well, I'm going to close withour anchoring verse.
It's may the God of hopefullywith all joy and peace and
believing so that, by the powerof the Holy Spirit, you may
abound in hope, and that'sRomans 15, 13.
So, michelle, thank you forbeing a brave voice that's

(01:16:41):
setting so many free.
I cannot wait to see your more.
There's so much more in storefor you, girl, so I will be back
with another episode next weekand, as a reminder, check out
the show notes for Michelle'sinformation.
All right, bye, thank you.
Bye.
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