May 7, 2025 • 53 mins
In this episode of we sit down with Amy Lenius to explore the true meaning of consistency and how it can transform lives. Amy shares her personal journey from dealing with a chronic health condition to becoming a successful director of group coaching at Next Level University. They discuss the key pillars of consistency: self-belief, humility, sustainability, adaptability, and grit. Amy also offers practical insights on setting realistic goals, navigating challenges, and maintaining a positive mindset. Tune in to discover how you can redefine consistency in your own life for lasting success and well-being.
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Sanika (00:00):
Welcome back to this episode of How Do You Divine,
(00:03):
and today we are here with AmyLinus.
Linus.
Linus.
Amy Lenius (00:08):
I love the inflection.
I love the, it's very,
Sanika (00:10):
I know how I.
Today we are here with Amy Linusand we are going to explore how
we've come to defineconsistency.
And I think that is such a wordthat is used right Amy, across
like so many different um,disciplines.
But first, tell us a little bitabout who is Amy, and thank you
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so much for being here.
Amy Lenius (00:34):
I'm so grateful to be here.
I don't take this lightly.
When someone allows me to comein on their platform to speak to
their people, it's genuinely oneof my favorite things and I'm so
grateful.
So thank you so much for havingme here.
I am Amy Lenius.
I live in Canada.
I'm very north of you.
We're kind of in the same timezone, but very much north.
I was actually just recentlydown close to your area in
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Boston, and I work for a companyand with a company called Next
Level University.
They are a couple of guys, Kevinand Alan, and they have a daily
podcast, and I fell in love withtheir holistic approach to
self-improvement.
I started working with them,hanging out with all their free
stuff, getting to know them.
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And then one day they asked meto come and be their mc.
They knew I was a public speakerand that I had done a lot of
things like that in my pastleading up to meeting them.
And they said, we would love foryou to come and help us run our
live event and be our mc.
And that's kind of how thepartnership started with them.
And I fell in love with.
Everything that they stand for.
And they had just such abeautiful community of actually
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a lot of women.
They had really attracted a lotof heart driven women into their
space.
And so I was just so deeply inlove with that.
And then we kind of moved into,I was helping with speeches and
trainings.
And now I'm director of groupcoaching.
I have my own one-on-onecoaching programs through there
as well, and it's just developedinto this beautiful thing over
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the last two and a half years.
And so that is where I'm atright now.
Sanika (02:05):
Awesome.
I love that.
And so tell me about howconsistency has changed.
As you've seen in differentseasons of your life, right?
Like you came across this dailypodcast, it really spoke to you
and you've kind of, you know,you leaned more and more into
that community and now you'releading that community.
You're a part of the overallguidance in that community,
(02:30):
right?
So how have you seen consistencynot only change your world, but
those that are within thecommunity?
Amy Lenius (02:36):
Yeah, thank you.
I think when we hear the wordconsistency, we either have a
positive relationship with it ora very negative one.
We have a belief that we are aconsistent person or we have a
belief that we're not aconsistent person.
I was in the, not a consistentperson belief.
I grew up very sick.
I had a hormonal conditioncalled endometriosis, and it was
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a really hard time from pubertyuntil about my early twenties.
It was a lot of doctors,surgeries, medications, all
sorts of things, and I neverfelt one truly seen in all of
that.
It was very much, okay, we'rejust gonna move you to the next
thing, move you to the nextthing.
No one ever talked to me aboutmy body as a whole.
It was always just like, well,here's your uterus and it's.
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Very broken and it's causing youa lot of pain.
No one ever talked to me aboutlike gut health, external
environment versus internalenvironment, all of these
things.
And uh, I went through a lotwith that, but because it was so
up and down and because I couldnever really find relief from my
pain, I think I developed areally negative relationship
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with the word consistency.
And so I had this kind ofbeautiful revelation one day
where I was like, okay, I'm justgonna step back.
I am going to stop themedications safely, stop going
to these doctors.
I'm gonna just kind of branchout and see what I can find.
And I ended up finding somereally awesome modalities within
natural wellness.
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I found a
Sanika (04:00):
Oh, okay.
Amy Lenius (04:01):
naturopathic doctor.
He talked to me about my body asa whole.
I fell in love with the wordholistic because I realized,
well, my internal environmentshows up in my external
environment, right?
How we're feeling shows upexternally, how our external
environment is set up actuallycauses.
Our health to be successful ornot.
There's so much to go intothere, but I started to learn
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that I can sustainably buildconsistent practices for my
healing that I could really win.
'cause I started in big wins andso I became pain free from a
condition I was told I couldnever be pain-free from.
And when I look back, yeah, allnatural.
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I'm on no medications, no moresurgeries, nothing like that.
I have regimens and I am very,very consistent with the things
I do every day.
I.
Yeah, with for my hormonehealth, and that's kind of where
I stepped into this field oflike, I have a background in
anatomy and physiology myself,but this is where I stepped into
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public speaking and running myown coaching programs.
I started teaching women abouttheir bodies and their health
and their hormones, and I got tobe on a lot of really incredible
stages doing that kind of work.
what I realized was I could goup there and I could sound
really great, really smart.
Saying all sorts of smart wordsabout your body and things,
people would love what I had tosay and they would feel really
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seen, but they couldn't go homeand be consistent with it
themselves.
And so I knew there was amissing piece, and as I started
working with Kevin and Allen, Icould see the whole picture
better of the missing piece.
It was self-belief.
It was self-worth.
Believe it or not, any journeyyou are on, whether it be
monetary health, relationships,self-belief and self-worth come
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in as two pillars that will workagainst you if they're not high
or.
They'll work for you if you'reworking with them.
And consistency plays into bothof those as well.
So now that I've learned so muchmore about the well-roundedness
of, I mean not onlyneuroscience, but how people
work, it's turned into this justbeautiful complete practice that
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I have.
I feel like genuinely I can helpanybody with their version of
success, even just with thesethree words, self-belief, self
forth, and consistency.
always meet the level of those.
That we're
Sanika (06:17):
What are some of the challenges you've seen with
consistency?
Right.
I think we all aspire to beconsistent with either our gym
regimen like and how we eat,where, you know, you were able
to remain consistent because yousaw the benefits, right?
You no longer felt pain.
You immediately saw that onceI'm consistent in what I put in
my body and the environmentsthat I surround, that I occupy.
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I no longer feel pain.
So you got that like, notimmediate gratification, but
you've got that gratification,that with this regimen, with
this consistency, I can see apath of happiness.
Right?
So what, what do you think arelike some of those key things
that prevents us from seeinglike us as a community as a
whole for.
(07:00):
From remaining consistent,right?
Like you said, there'sself-worth, there's self-belief.
But if, I think when we hearconsistency, right, uh, on a
surface we think about, we thinkabout regimens, like you said,
like we need a consistentregimen.
And I think it's oftendifficult.
Because I also coach people, um,for sales and I coach, um, for
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sales and business coaching justto help entrepreneurs and career
challengers through difficulttimes.
And one thing I have found isthat identifying what is that
ideal regimen to be consistentwith.
It's difficult,
Amy Lenius (07:37):
Mm-hmm.
Sanika (07:38):
right?
So, so how, how have you helpedpeople identify what their
consistent needs are to be theirbest self?
Amy Lenius (07:47):
Yeah, it's based on their goals.
So when I came into this space,I was coaching with Alan and we
were talking about my health,and we were talking about how I
had gone through this wholejourney and he's like, oh, so
you have a lot of powerinconsistency and self-belief.
And I was like, I don't know.
Self-belief is what we believewe're capable of achieving in
the external environment.
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I was like, I don't know.
And he's like, no, if you lookback, you have consistency in
you and you have self-belief inyou.
And he's like, how do youbelieve you could be consistent
in fitness?
And I was like, oh, I can't.
I've never been able to beconsistent in fitness.
I go too hard and then myinflammation kicks up and I had
this narrative running that mybody is still this broken piece
of garbage that's genuinely thenarrative I had.
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And so we built this consistencystar, this framework based on a
lot of things we learned throughthis trial and error process of
Kay Amy's fitness.
And so I have been able to beconsistent with a half hour of
moving my body in an aligned wayevery day for 980 something
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days, having never beenconsistent in fitness before.
we did it through five veryspecific points, and I'll take
you through those in just asecond.
But what, when someone comes tome and they.
Say, okay, I really wannaachieve this.
It's about reverse engineeringwhat the goal is into what can
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you do every day to make thathappen.
Consistency is built upon what'scalled the Compound Effect.
It's a great book.
Have you ever read
Sanika (09:22):
Yes.
Amy Lenius (09:23):
So
Sanika (09:23):
Yes, I did.
Amy Lenius (09:24):
itself, right?
The concept itself iseverything.
And so if we can do somethingevery day, it's that saying of
Apple a day is better than sevenon Sunday.
Consistency is that we wannaleverage the compound effect
through consistency.
And if you can't do it everyday, it's not something that
you're going to be consistentat.
Or if you can't do it every day,it's because you're setting
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yourself up for failure insteadof success.
We can all do something everyday.
It's just based on ourlifestyle, our views, our
beliefs.
Do we believe it's possible?
Do we believe it's possible forourself?
There's so much to go intothere.
And so when we started.
We broke it down into fivepoints.
It's self-belief, humility,Adaptability and grit and we
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have it in a star.
So it's a five pointed star ofthis.
And self-belief is first becauseyou're only ever going to meet
yourself at the level of youraccurate self-belief.
So what you believe you arecapable of achieving and
especially when you break itdown into an individual goal.
So me, my have very highself-belief that I can come onto
this podcast and speak and havea great conversation with you,
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like 10 outta 10.
My self-belief in
Sanika (10:33):
Yes.
Amy Lenius (10:34):
Was like a two outta 10.
So we had to start really small,really
Sanika (10:39):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Amy Lenius (10:41):
we had to know my level of self-belief in this
specific area.
So that's always where we start.
And self-belief is.
Learning to keep the promisesyou make to yourself.
You say you're gonna dosomething, you do it, and then
you self assign, you celebratethe fact that you did this thing
without overthinking, withoutperfectionism, without talking
yourself, outta celebrating, youacknowledge that you did this
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thing.
That's how you buildself-belief.
Sanika (11:07):
No, and I, that reminds me of something that I always
used to say to myself and I sayto my kids all the time, do
something today that your futureself will be so fortunate for.
Right.
Something today that sneak upfive years ago would be like,
I'm so glad you powered throughand you did that.
Right?
Because if we only think aboutthe day as it is, right?
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It's like, live for today and bepresent.
Yes.
But if you don't.
Continuously to build blocksright towards the goals that you
want in life.
The, the empire doesn't builditself.
You have to slowly, you know,layer those blocks towards what
you want to be consistent inyour life every single day.
And that like that reminds me ofif I wanna wake up every single
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day and feel, well, I know Ineed to go to bed on time.
If I wanna wake up every singleday and feel good about my body,
I know what I need to eat everyday.
Right.
It's just also, I love that howyou put it.
I love how you put it in termsof self-belief,'cause it really
does put the power for changeand impact solely in your hands,
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right?
How, what do you believe you arecapable of doing today?
Amy Lenius (12:16):
That's
Sanika (12:17):
if that is a two out of 10, let's start at a two out of
10.
But I think what often happensis because we are measuring it
against the 10, we don't move.
We don't move.
We stay at the two and we'rejust like, two is never gonna be
as great as 10, so I'm not gonnado anything.
But we don't con, we don'tconsider what happens when two
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is applied.
Consistency for consistently for30 days.
Then two, there comes five.
And then five becomes eight, andthen eight becomes 10.
And by the time you look, youare sitting right at your goal
and you don't even realize yougot there.
So I, so I love how you'vepositioned consistency, right?
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Because I think what people needto understand about consistency,
it's not about just repetition,it's about accepting where you
are today and consistently.
Making progress to where youwanna be tomorrow.
Right.
I, I have the saying that Ialways say is like, you have to
build in motion.
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You cannot build while you standstill and just in stagnant,
right?
I wanna be, I want, you know,you have a big goal.
It's like, I want this new job.
I wanna build this business, butI don't have enough money, so
I'm gonna just sit here.
Right.
I don't know where to getstarted, so I'm just gonna sit
here.
It is just, I love that you, howthose pillars that you've put
together for consistency again,helps.
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People look at themselves andsay, where am I today?
Who do I believe I am?
And what do I want for myself?
And this is how I can apply someconsistency.
So tell me how, well, we knowhow consistency has changed your
life, right?
Can you share some stories onhow, you know you've helped
others, uh, acknowledge theimportance of consistency in
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their life in with the smallwins and the big wins?
Amy Lenius (14:10):
Yeah, definitely.
And so I love how you built uponthe self-belief there.
It is.
It's so valuable.
I love what you do with yourchildren.
I feel the very same about mine.
And I think us embodying thatourselves is always gonna be
such a beautiful lesson forthem.
Right.
And so with self-belief,sometimes it's about checking
the box, like you said, andhaving really.
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A deep understanding.
That's why humility is second, adeep understanding of where
you're at.
So let's take it through withfitness and then I'll give you
an example of a woman I'mhelping you, I'm helping with
right now, and she's doing justincredible things.
So with my fitness, when welooked at, okay, what's the 10?
It was, well, a 10 would begoing to a gym every day for an
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hour and lifting weights likehard pass.
I live in a small town on a dirtroad that doesn't even have a
gym like, so that's.
Hard pass.
That's not even, it's not even areality for me anytime soon.
And so we built back from there.
Well, do you think you couldwork out for five minutes a day?
Oh yeah, absolutely.
So there was the zero and thenwe built into, okay, well what
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about 10 minutes, 20, 30?
And I said, I can do 30 as longas it's within the realm of I
get to do what I want in thatday.
And so some days it looked like,yeah, waits.
Some days it's a walk.
Some days it's stretchingbecause all it is is about
aligning and moving my body in away that feels good in that day.
And so that took a lot ofhumility.
That's the next step.
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You need to be super accurate inwhere you're at currently and
have acceptance around that andthat it's okay, like you said,
to build that two into thethree, into the four, into the
five.
And as you go, we alwaysoverestimate what we can do in a
day.
We constantly, as humans,underestimate what we can
achieve in a year.
Sanika (15:55):
I agree a hundred percent.
My, my daily to-do list isridiculous, and I often, after I
write them and read them, remindmyself to give myself grace,
because I, I, I always say I, Iused to be a humble person.
Used to always say like, I'msuch a humble person, which I
am, but I found that I havechanged my own definition of
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humility.
Right.
And how it is shown up in theworld.
So I would prefer to just givemyself grace, right?
Just give yourself a lot ofgrace to where you are now and
where you wanna be tomorrow,because I think something about
grace just signals the empathyrequired for you to properly
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assess who you are today,
Amy Lenius (16:40):
Yeah,
Sanika (16:41):
right?
Versus humility sometimes can bediminishing.
Amy Lenius (16:48):
depending on
Sanika (16:49):
Your, of your exactly.
Humility in its in itsstandalone could be, oh, I need
to be humble.
I need to be graceful.
I need to like you understandwhat I, I need to kind of
diminish in order to amplify.
So humility and me, and humilityhas had, you know, I'm a
wordsmith me and humility ishaving some is having some
trouble these days.
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But grace, having some grace foryourself and where you are
today.
I think will make you, willallow people to properly assess
where they are today.
Right.
Because I think when you look atit in bare face, you're just
like, yeah, I can't beconsistent at work because I.
Of my rise.
I can't be consistent in fitnessbecause of the gym.
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Like, you know what I mean?
The, we have all of thesereasons.
I can't be consistent inbuilding the business because of
funding.
I can't, like we can, there areso many reasons we cannot,
right?
But if we look at things fromthe standpoint of giving
yourself grace, you start tosee, oh, I can't build a
business because I don't havefull funding right now.
But what I can do is create thelogo.
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What I can do is start tooutline the operational man
model, right?
What I can do is, you know, Ican't go to the gym, but what I
can do is take that 30 minutewalk'cause grace allows you to
see yourself with so muchbeauty.
And towards consistency.
I just often, our minds are justwired towards negative language,
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limited, limited frameworks, andusing words like grace when
aligned with consistency, Ithink softens it a bit, right?
Because I think we, in ourworld.
When you hear consistency, it'slike put out content every
single day.
Be at work, be the first one inthe first one out.
Build that business, 365 days, 275, you sleep when you're dead.
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Like those are the type of conlike those, those are the type
of concepts we think of when wehear consistency.
And I think part of relearningand redefining it for ourselves
is understanding thatconsistency can be graceful.
Amy Lenius (19:00):
Ah.
Completely.
Completely.
That's why number four isadaptability.
Another word for that is grace.
It's understanding your currentstate and what do you need to do
to adapt your current state toyour goal.
I.
And so humility, it's tough whenwe have lower self-worth and we
have some self-worth stuff.
Humility gets taken on.
(19:21):
Kind of like you said when youwere struggling with that word.
Humility just needs to bedeveloped into just an accurate
sense of self.
And then the top of the star isthe sustainability.
If it is not sustainable, youwill not be able to do it every
day, so you need to make it intoa block of time that is
sustainable without guilt,without judgment, without shame.
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If you can't do something for anhour every day, I am a
homeschooling country, livingmom who is also in this
business, like I have to besustainable and adaptable all
the time.
You're a mother.
You know how reactive life canbe when you have children and
things, and so sustainabilityand adaptive.
Ability are right side by side.
And another word foradaptability, and this is Grace,
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is you know what?
Today was a shit show of a day.
I still need to do my workout,and the kids are this, and I am
this, and this was this.
It's eight o'clock at night, butI said I would do this thing.
And so you know what?
The kids are in bed.
I'm actually just gonna lie downand stretch for a half hour.
I'm gonna honor my body that wayfor half an hour to come down
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because I'm not gonna pick upthe weights or go for a hike at
night or things.
That's the beauty of theadaptability piece and the grace
piece you're talking about.
It's giving that sense ofacceptance of your lifestyle, of
where you're at in that day.
Even as women with our cyclesand things, we do not have the
same energetic level every day.
We cannot push.
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week four, like we do in weektwo, two and a half, it's not
the same.
It's grace and understandingthere is so important, and
that's why that adaptabilitypiece is key.
I sh I put that in there myself.
I was like, we need to be ableto adapt.
I, yeah.
Sanika (21:01):
Yes, absolutely.
And you know, that reminded meof Atomic Habits, like you
talked about, the compoundeffect.
I love Atomic Habits as well.
Amy Lenius (21:09):
Oh.
Sanika (21:10):
And yes, I, that's a book I love.
Amy Lenius (21:14):
right here with my books and atomic habits and the
consistency or the compoundeffector on them.
But I put the wallpaper up andnow my
Sanika (21:20):
Yes.
Yes, because I think it's soimportant, right?
And for those who haven't readAtomic Habits, it really shows
you how to make essentially 1%.
Progress in every single day bystacking your habits to towards
your ultimate goal.
And that reminded me of, likeyou said, life happens.
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There are days that you plan outall the things and you know, 5%
of the things get done and thekids get sick and you gotta pick
them up from school.
And it's like a whole thing,right?
And it reminds me of when Icreated this.
This measure for myself, right?
Because I again, could not beconsistent with working out to
save my life after baby numbertwo career.
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I was just like, it is gonna bewhat it's gonna be.
I started this thing called mybare minimum.
Amy Lenius (22:12):
Oh love.
Sanika (22:13):
So.
So every single day I am, I usedto be an OCD clean freak, right?
So the things that I truly lookforward to is like take every
single night is taking a shower,a long hot shower, and like
getting myself ready to bed.
You think I'm going somewherethe way I take my night routine?
Very serious, right?
(22:34):
And during this time I readAtomic Habits and what came to
mind was Sonika, you need tocreate a bare minimum.
So that if I don't get to thegym, if I don't get to walk the
dog, if I don't get a long walkbefore I get in that shower, I
have to do four exercises, foursets
Amy Lenius (22:53):
Mm.
I.
Sanika (22:53):
in, one.
It became my bare minimum, andthat's how I kept fitness and
consistency in my life because Iknew myself.
You know, as a day dwindleddown, you finally put the kids
to bed.
Everyone ate dinner.
I am.
Ooh, I'm tingling.
Looking forward to that showerto just like wind down.
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And then I'd go, you gotta earnit.
You got to do your bare minimum.
And it's now, now it's likesecond nature.
If I don't go to the gym, if Idon't walk, I'm on the floor in
my bedroom with the mat doing mybare minimum because it's
something like Atomic Habits.
It was something that I stackedwith a habit that I enjoyed,
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with something that I knew Ineeded to do.
Right, and it, it's, I love howwe are outlining how we've come
to define consistency becauseconsistency is just that small,
sustainable actions that we cantake forward and continue to
build upon and compound upon.
Amy Lenius (23:59):
yes.
So much.
Yes.
I love the habit stacking.
I love what you're doing andeverything.
I can see when you, you,yourself, are putting these
regimens into your life, you'rehonoring yourself so deeply.
So like these little things thatyou create for yourself, this is
why you have high self-beliefand self-worth, I can tell, but
it's because you've built thosepractices and you're keeping the
promises you make to yourselfand you're investing in yourself
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these ways.
All of these things buildself-worth and self.
Belief.
So self-belief being thatexternal game, self-worth is the
internal game, and a big part ofthat is doing everything you
just said.
And so that's really beautiful.
And again, that adaptation andgrace and understanding, here's
my bare minimum, becausegenuinely it is sometimes just
about checking the box, not howit looks, not how well you did,
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not the outcome of it.
It's about checking the box forthe sake of that internal game
for the sake of becoming someonewho says.
I am consistent.
I am adaptable.
I have self-belief, I haveself-worth.
I'm gonna invest in myself thisway, even if it's messy.
And those kind of principles hasreally helped me let go of that
perfectionism mindset.
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If I can't do it perfect, Idon't need to, I don't wanna do
it at all.
And I used to live in thatspace, and so that has also
taught me to have messy action.
Mm-hmm.
Sanika (25:13):
Yeah, anything less than a hundred percent.
But it also reminds me thatkeeping promises I make for
myself is of the utmostimportance, right?
I think once you're a mom andyou are just a woman, like you
don't even have to be a mom, buta woman in, in this world,
keeping promises to yourselfbecomes further and further
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lower of the priority list.
Because we're genuinely alwaystaking care of someone else.
Even if you have children oryour partner or whatever, you're
genuinely always taking care ofsomeone else.
And then the promises you makefor yourself become not even a,
a question, a thought in yourmind.
And I learned that in order forme to show up for anyone, I
needed to show up for myselffirst.
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Like.
Amy Lenius (25:57):
That's right.
Sanika (25:58):
First and foremost.
Amy Lenius (25:59):
Mm-hmm.
Sanika (26:00):
so like I started to think, how, what does that look
like?
What do I, what does that feellike?
And I think when we think aboutconsistency, I think that's a
good question the audience andeveryone can ask theirselves is
how do I consistently wanna showup for myself every single day
so that I feel like I'm givingSonika the love that Sonika
(26:20):
gives out.
Amy Lenius (26:21):
Yes, yes.
And so many of us hear that andwe think, oh, taking care of
myself is selfish.
I don't have to do that.
I can keep giving at the extentthat I'm giving.
And you know what?
I think women do great things,self-sacrificing and all of this
stuff.
But I'm telling you, as someonewho has flipped that script and
who honors myself first, so thatI can give.
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My maximum effort so that I cangive what is best of me, not
just what is left of meconstantly.
It has, it's, it's better overhere.
Genuinely.
The
Sanika (26:53):
Yeah,
Amy Lenius (26:54):
the hero complex, the Marty,
Sanika (26:55):
everyone, everyone got so much more from that one, and
I think
Amy Lenius (27:00):
yes.
Sanika (27:00):
the problem is conditioning, right?
Prob the problem is conditioninga lot of times in their, in
either your community, yourfamily, or your upbringing.
The, the messages were.
Consistently show up for otherpeople, consistently be of
service to other people, whichin so many ways is wonderful,
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but how can you do that if youdon't consistently show up for
yourself?
I.
Amy Lenius (27:26):
Yeah, and just like you said, the narrative of
women.
Women, typically, we have theunderlying narrative and so does
society, that our worth comesfrom what and who we are to
other people.
Are we a good daughter?
Are we a good spouse?
Are we a good mother though?
Like that's where our worth.
I.
Societally comes from.
And so we automatically havethat ingrained that we need to
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sacrifice ourself for others toeven feel worthy and lovable.
so there's a whole narrativethere that
Sanika (27:54):
Which is so weird and at a consistent level that we don't
even know is sustainable,
Amy Lenius (27:59):
Oh yeah.
Sanika (28:00):
right?
So you, you, and then you comeacross these varying people
that's like, I gave my all tothat relationship.
I gave my all to that job, Igave my all to this business.
And it's just like, first ofall, what have you consistently
giving your all of you two?
Can, can we, can we assess whatthat is?
Right.
Because I just, it, it, it, ithurts me deeply when I feel like
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there are people pouring andgiving their valued asset, which
is their energy.
I just feel like human beingsare designed to be good, right?
And have great energy and.
You have this asset that is so,it's not, it's not tangible.
There is no value.
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Dollar amount you can puttowards it because it's so
phenomenal and you put ittowards things that don't serve
you in a positive way, or youdon't even acknowledge that it
exists and it diminishes anddies within you.
There are people that live anddie every day and never live a
day.
Amy Lenius (29:03):
Yeah.
Sanika (29:05):
All because no one have taught them, or even shown them
or gave them the ability to say,if you consistently look in the
mirror at yourself every day forone minute, you'll start to see
how great you are.
Or if you consistently gooutside every single day and
walk in the sun, it will helphow you feel emotionally.
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You know what I mean?
I think when we hearconsistency, I want everyone to
understand it is a commitmentyou make to yourself every
single day to towards somethingyou desire,
Amy Lenius (29:39):
100%.
100%.
learning to honor that withinyourself every day is going to
build you to a place where youare able to not only attract,
but sustain healthyrelationships.
Healthy jobs, all of thosethings, you're gonna be more
equipped to deal with.
What comes with that, if you aremore fulfilled, is, is
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everything.
And it's a huge part of that ishow you are, what your quality
of life is and what that meansto you.
And I think consistency isindividual game.
It really is because I can nevercompare my, let's keep using
fitness, my fitness journey to awoman who's in her young
twenties who lives in anapartment building.
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She's got a gym right in thebasement of that building and
she can go and spend three hoursthere every morning.
'cause she doesn't havechildren, she doesn't have all
of these things.
And if I look at that and I'mlike, oh, I suck.
I suck
Sanika (30:38):
Yeah,
Amy Lenius (30:39):
do that.
It's like you are comparingapples to frigging peanuts.
You are not comparing apples toapples.
Well, what are we doing?
So, a,
Sanika (30:50):
what they say?
Comparison Is this the
Amy Lenius (30:52):
it can
Sanika (30:53):
thief?
Amy Lenius (30:53):
thief, thief of all joy.
It can also be used forinspiration.
So if I'm looking at this young20-year-old woman and I'm trying
to compare and thinking I suck.
Well, that's not, that's nothealthy.
That's gonna hit me in my selfworth every day.
But if I can find a woman, let'ssay on Instagram, we all love
to, you know, compare to ourother people online.
So it's ingrained within us todo so.
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And I find someone who's alsoalmost in her forties, maybe she
loves to live in the country andmaybe she homeschools her kids
like I do, but she has a fitnessregime that I could look up to
and be inspired by seeing that,hey, she has done this thing.
Maybe I can have a piece of thatand do that too.
you can compare it forinspiration as long as it's
apples to apples, or you cancompare it to a detriment.
(31:38):
And so if that is you, if you'recomparing at a detriment, try
and find someone who is in amore similar lifestyle than you
and see if you can get inspiredinstead.
Sanika (31:49):
That is so good.
I think that's a great point,right?
Because I think you're right.
We do kind of see people out inthe world on the Internets and
all of these, even people in ourcommunity, and we're like, oh, I
wish I could have that or dothis like that person or
whatever it is, and.
Sometimes, uh, it just leansinto comparison where it should
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just be inspiration, right?
But then also be honest withyourself and be graceful about
it.
That is this a, a truecomparison?
Like this person could have amore wealthier background.
They're 20 years younger, 20years older.
Like let's be honest about whoyou are.
Right?
And that's where I think Grace,alongside with consistency, will
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put you in a place where you'rehappy and you're fulfilled so
that you are consistentlyshowing up as yourself.
Because I do see that, I do seewhere people are like, oh, I see
that you do this and I wanna dothis.
Thing.
And I'm just like, I love thatyou wanna do this thing, let's
do this thing together, butlet's compare the structure and
the foundation, right?
(32:54):
Because in order for you to getto A to B, you need a vehicle of
some sort.
And if somebody is driving aFerrari and we on a two, two
wheel bicycle, we gonna getthere, but we're not gonna get
there as fast,
Amy Lenius (33:07):
Yeah,
Sanika (33:08):
you know?
And that's the part that Ithink,
Amy Lenius (33:12):
Sorry, go ahead.
Sanika (33:13):
No, no, I was gonna say, that's the part that I want
people to understand.
The knowing the gold, knowingthe target, you don't have to
have a clear vision.
Right?
And it, I could go into thewhole tangent about Gen Z, about
them not wanting to move becausethey wanna find purpose first.
Right?
Purpose is found in motion, but.
I think, uh, helping people seeand understand that if you come
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across something that inspiresyou, that moves, you pull closer
to it, but not for comparison.
Not to, to, to, uh, mimic it,not to become that thing, but to
evaluate it.
Amy Lenius (33:50):
That,
Sanika (33:51):
But to evaluate it
Amy Lenius (33:53):
that Because sometimes, Because sometimes we
see someone with this result.
And we think, oh, I want that,but we're not looking at what it
took.
But also if it's aligned withwho we are and the things we
value, typically we see an endresult and we're not looking at
the journey, and we're notlooking at who we are.
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I can't tell you how many peoplewe have worked with where they
want this end result, but itdoes not align with their core
values at all.
Someone wanted to be a CEO,build this whole business
entrepreneur, and we're like,okay, well how do you feel about
time freedom?
Oh, it's everything.
Like, do you wanna be there foryour kids as they grow up?
Oh yes, 100%.
I wanna be there to pick my kidsup off the, then this is not the
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path for you.
You are going to hate yourselfby the end.
And so how can we buildsomething that gives you these
similar things but aligns withyour values?
Knowing your core values iseverything.
My top three core values arefreedom, love, and growth.
You can see freedom in everylike little bit of thing we do.
I work from home.
I homeschool my kids.
We have chickens that give usour own eggs.
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Like they're just little thingsthat show up in that.
And there are so many choices Icould have made going into the
businesses and things I wanna dothat would've been so misaligned
with that, that I would've beenmiserable throughout and at the
end.
And so knowing that about myselfand knowing that my family life
is still the most prioritybecause I love, love and the way
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my household runs.
If my house isn't in a goodenergy, I can't put my best work
out, I will always prioritizethat energy.
So, right.
So knowing that about my myselfmeans I have to make certain
choices right now while my kidsare small, I can have plans for
when they're bigger and moreself-sufficient, but I can't
live those plans right nowbecause this is more important.
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And so knowing
Sanika (35:41):
Yes, in this season of your life,
Amy Lenius (35:44):
Yes.
Sanika (35:45):
in this season of your life, like, and I think you hit
it right on the head by saying,evaluate the things you desire
because just because it looks.
Like a beautiful, consistentlife that I would want bring it
in a little bit closer to trulyevaluate it.
Because will you be able to doand live within those core
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values if you aspire to do thatthing?
If
Amy Lenius (36:12):
Right.
Sanika (36:13):
you aspire to consistently to be a CEO?
Right.
And it's interesting'cause Italk to people all the time.
They're like, oh, I wanna startthis and I wanna start that.
And I'm like, tell me how you'dmanage it.
Give me an ideal day.
Amy Lenius (36:25):
Yes.
Sanika (36:25):
You know what I mean?
So it's good that you're able tosay, I, I, I love freedom.
I love, love.
Same.
I'm always like, I, I am nothingwithout my family.
If my husband and my girls arenot smiling from ear to ear, I'm
not.
Right.
Like we just, we are just thatkind of household where we just,
we hang out, we chill, we chat,Hey, I'm chilling.
(36:45):
Chat.
It's all we do.
And if that is not well, I amnot well.
Amy Lenius (36:52):
That's right.
Sanika (36:52):
So it's knowing these key pieces of your life that
needs to be consistently, uh, ina good position for you to be
your best self because no, Idon't think everyone does that
in valuation.
What do I need to be?
Well, every day consistently,not just for myself, but for my
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environment,
Amy Lenius (37:15):
Mm-hmm.
That's
Sanika (37:16):
right?
Because your environment plays abig component in your overall
wellness, and are you the kindof person that can thrive in
chaos?
Let's just say what are yourgoals?
Is I do.
I now live in the suburbs.
I wanna be one of those peoplethat live in a building and have
a gym downstairs.
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That's what I want.
'cause I think that is who, butis that the lifestyle that's
going to make you happy
Amy Lenius (37:42):
Mm-hmm.
That's right.
Yeah.
are you gonna be fulfilled andis it gonna be the quality of
life that you want?
And all of these things, becauseyou will reach the ceiling of
your goals if you don't have allof those things along the way.
And if you're not cultivatingthose things along the way and
adapting and having grace andlike all of these things along
the way, those all build intoyour consistency.
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People hear consistencies like,oh, I just have to do this every
day.
There is so many layersunderneath that for you to even
make that possible, and that isokay.
It is okay if you need to dothis deep dive into this thing
to be consistent.
In fact, I think you shouldreally, because at the end of
the day, the things you wanna beconsistent in.
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the things that matter to youthe most?
I was building this whole thinginto entrepreneurialship.
I had my own women's healthcoaching program, public
speaking, all of these things.
I had the Peaceful Periodproject, it was called, and we
met for nine weeks.
And I taught women about theirbodies, their hormones, their
cycles, everything I could pourinto them to empower them with
the information they need to goand be the women that they can
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be.
And I, I loved it.
I did, I loved it so much, but apart of me wasn't.
Fully into theentrepreneurialship part of it
because of the lifestyle that Ihave and want.
And so when I found Kevin andAllen in Next Level University
and I got to partner with themand be an intrapreneur, oh,
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found my spot, found my sweetspot, my time freedom, my
things, but yet I have somethingto be a part of instead of the
director of.
I love that.
I, like I always use thisanalogy with Alan.
He's the CEO and he coaches meand all of these things.
I'm like, I feel like I'm thelightsaber and I have so much
potential and you, I just needsomeone to wield me in the right
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direction.
And I just thrive in that.
I'm like, so you be the Jedi andyou just wield the lightsaber.
Let's go, let's do great things.
But
Sanika (39:38):
I love that analogy.
That is a great analogy.
And I also just, I have tohighlight the beauty in that,
the power in that, right?
Because I think often.
The world Society makes you feellike the only best position is
the CEO,
Amy Lenius (39:56):
That's right.
Sanika (39:57):
the O, the, the goal, the only good goal to have is
the CEO, but that's not the goalfor everyone.
Amy Lenius (40:05):
No.
And
Sanika (40:05):
the, the SVP is a great.
Amy Lenius (40:07):
for that.
So many of us do not have the
Sanika (40:09):
The SU is a great place to be.
The director is a great place tobe.
The individual contributor is agood place to be.
The question is, what if Ialways say, if you put money
aside, what is your ideallifestyle?
I.
Put money aside.
And what is your ideallifestyle?
Do you wanna be learning everysingle day?
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Do you wanna be inspiringsomeone every single day?
Do you wanna be speaking to themasses every single day or not?
Or would you rather just bedrawing?
Would you rather just bebuilding like it?
It's in order to find what thatconsistent sense of fulfillment
and happiness is, you have to bereal with yourself and do that
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on it.
Amy Lenius (40:52):
Yes.
Sanika (40:53):
You have to see the things that aspire you out in
the world that you wanna compareyourself to, and then bring them
in a little bit closer, evaluatethem, and then do a proper
audit.
I always say that like I, I'mnot a strategist'cause they
train me to be.
It's'cause that's just how mybrain works.
I, I, that's just how my mindworks.
I'm just like, I can take all ofthese things and then make it
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into something that makes sense.
You know what I mean?
And when we look at our lives,we have to be able to do that.
I always, like, I have a lot ofclose friends that they're like,
SNE, you're gonna be great.
I, I just wanna be a part ofyour, your business.
And I'm just like, but what doyou wanna do?
Amy Lenius (41:29):
Yeah.
Sanika (41:30):
I was like, I never wanted to give anyone an
assignment or a role thatdoesn't align with who you wanna
be and what you wanna do.
And until you identify that,it's separate from the
opportunity, right?
Because sometimes I think wejust go out and we see these
opportunities and we see thesespaces and we're like, oh, do
that.
I wanna do that.
I wanna try that.
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I wanna be that person.
I'm gonna be that person, whichis lovely.
A hundred percent do that.
But before you jump.
Evaluate, bring it in a littlecloser.
Assess this person that's doingthat thing has this level of
consistency doing X, can Iconsistently do X?
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Do I consistently wanna do Y ordo I just love the way Z looks?
Amy Lenius (42:19):
That's right.
Sanika (42:20):
Do I do, I just love the way Z looks and, and I think, I
love how we have definedconsistency around not just
doing a thing, but knowing whyyou're doing it and where you're
going.
Amy Lenius (42:37):
Yeah.
purpose behind the thing you'retrying to be consistent in
really matters.
It's gonna be your drivingforce.
So number five on the star isgrit, because sometimes we just
have to get it done.
You doing it right before you doall of your things that you
love.
That takes a level of grit.
It's the end of the day.
You just wanna have your showerand do your beautiful things
that you do.
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But you said you were gonna dothis thing and you have to adapt
to the moment.
But the reason you get it doneis there's a certain level of
grit.
Sometimes we just have to havethis moment of, you know what?
I'm feeling this, I'm feelingthis.
It's like, you know what f myfeelings for just a moment.
What are the facts?
I said I was gonna do thisthing.
What's the bare minimum that Ican do to check the box and just
get it done?
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That takes a certain level ofgrit, and so that's what it is.
Self-belief, humility,sustainability, adaptability,
and grace and grit.
Some days you just gotta get itdone and that's gonna help you
build consistency.
Sanika (43:33):
Yes.
I was gonna say the five pillarsof consistency.
Amy Lenius (43:37):
Mm-hmm.
Sanika (43:37):
That, that, that is awesome.
Be especially grit, right?
I think I.
Depending on your experience,grit can mean so many different
things, and I think if goingback to like being graceful with
yourself in all things, grit isjust getting it done.
Sometimes I like to, I alwayssay sometimes you need to
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separate yourself from the task.
It is not, it doesn't have to beyou.
Amy Lenius (44:03):
Yes,
Sanika (44:04):
You know what I mean?
It's.
It's just I'm doing a thingbecause we get so caught up in
my emotions, and like you said,some days I'm just super tired.
I'm just like, I had a day withthe girls.
I had a day at work.
I just really wanna get in theshower and get in the bed, but
I'm just like, Ika had a badday.
But Ika also promised to getthis done.
Amy Lenius (44:25):
that's right.
Sanika (44:26):
So how am I gonna get this done and I just block it
all out and get it done right?
So it's just activating thatsense of grit that you have for
yourself and say, the why.
Amy Lenius (44:38):
Mm-hmm.
Sanika (44:39):
am I even doing this separate?
The emotion, one plus one equalstwo, I, I set a goal for this
reason, I'm gonna do it and I'mgonna get it done.
Amy Lenius (44:48):
Mm-hmm.
It doesn't have to look perfecttoday.
It just has to get done.
days you're going to be, you'regonna have the capacity to do
this thing really well, and somedays you're not.
And having acceptance aroundthat and then learning to grid
it out and get it done anywaysis going to serve you so much
deeper than anything else.
Long term, genuinely.
And so where are you?
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Because when we look at fivethings, it can be overwhelming,
especially if we're not used tobeing consistent.
So I've just given you fivethings to look at.
If you can pick one on that staror of those pillars that you
know is the lowest for you.
So mine was grit.
I grew up very sick.
So it was very hard for me toput myself in uncomfortable
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positions because I had finallybecome not uncomfortable
physically, and that it, it wasreally hard for me to push
myself because I had so muchscarcity around what that would
look like for me.
And so evaluating even you cando from one to five or zero to
five on each one of thosethings.
How much belief do you have inyourself?
How accurately can you assesswhere you're at?
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How sustainable can you makesomething?
It takes humility to buildsustainability.
Okay?
Meeting yourself where you'reat.
If it's only five minutes a day,then that's where you start.
Adaptability is grace.
Are you?
An overthinker and aperfectionist, you're gonna
struggle to give yourself thatgrace if that's the lowest score
for you.
Start practicing self-acceptanceand grace.
Or maybe you're like me and gritis the thing that you need to
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focus on the most.
Don't look at the whole star allat once.
Pick one.
Where are you in the evaluationof that?
Pick one, and then how can youbuild consistency in that one
thing and then expand out fromthere.
Sanika (46:25):
I love that.
Thank you so much.
That was to me, again, sograceful.
As I've said that since I've metyou, I'm just like, I love the
kindness in your guidance and,and, and the kindness in how you
usher people through the world.
Amy Lenius (46:42):
Thank
Sanika (46:43):
It, it just ate around you.
This level of you can do it, youhave all the things and it
doesn't have to be rough.
Amy Lenius (46:53):
Yeah.
Sanika (46:54):
know, I, I love that.
I love that.
Thank you so much for sharingthe star of consistency, right?
And how we have come to defineconsistency and we can redefine
consistency.
And before I let you go, ab, youknow, I'm a music girl, you know
that the rhythms.
That keeps us in our world isimportant.
(47:16):
So tell me, what are you vibingon this week, Amy?
I know you just traveled.
You came to the America, youcame to the States, went back to
Canada, came back.
Tell me, what were you jabbingon?
Amy Lenius (47:29):
Oh my goodness.
Music actually is a huge part ofmy life.
I am obsessed with everythingfrom like the fifties to the
early two thousands.
After that, it gets a little,I'm like, I don't know, but, uh,
but I like nineties alternative,genuinely is my favorite.
I can always go, like,everyone's like, oh, what brings
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you into a state of like, peaceand gets you ready for your
coaching and all these things.
I'm like, honestly, it's likerock.
And sometimes metal, and it'sjust this weird thing I have in
me that I love.
Like I love complicated music.
It's one of the very few thingsthat quiets my brain.
And so it needs to have a lot ofcomplexity to it.
Instruments and all of thesethings for me to be like, ah,
(48:11):
yes,
Sanika (48:14):
Nice.
So what's your go-to song?
I love how you consider rockcomplex music because of all the
different ments.
I love that.
Ooh.
So tell me, tell me, tell mewhat's your favorite song If
you're like, I need to zone inright now and focus on the
proposal, I need to focus onthis meeting.
What are you putting on?
What, what Alexa play, what?
Amy Lenius (48:34):
Oh my goodness.
One song I could never,
Sanika (48:38):
One song I know.
Amy Lenius (48:41):
I could never, it is like if I have my go-to, it is
my alternative rock playlist.
And there are a few on there.
There's like a Lincoln Parksong, a POD song for sure.
A three Days Grace song inthere.
So like those three bands arebig for me.
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Definitely I don't, I couldn'tchoose and then I have to go
back and it's like Led Zeppelin,
Sanika (49:08):
I.
Amy Lenius (49:08):
it.
I.
Sanika (49:13):
See, I talk, I always say like, choosing your favorite
song sometimes do feel likechoosing a favorite child.
It's so hard.
Amy Lenius (49:22):
It's impossible.
It is.
It does.
Like, if I need like a, a gist,I have this song.
It's, uh, Frank Sinatra SummerWind.
It's beautiful.
It feels so flowy.
It's nice and casual, likethat's like one of my favorites.
But then sometimes, you know, itdepends on the mood.
Depends on the mood.
Sanika (49:39):
Depends on the movie.
Amy Lenius (49:41):
You never
Sanika (49:41):
Listen, it depends.
You could never choose Ooh.
Especially a nice Frank Sinatrasong.
Have you ever like looked up hisperformances on YouTube
Amy Lenius (49:50):
Right.
Suave
Sanika (49:54):
Like,
Amy Lenius (49:54):
man.
Sanika (49:54):
so Swamp?
I'm like, there are few humansthat operate like silk.
You know, operate like silk.
I feel like Luther VROs operatelike silk,
Amy Lenius (50:07):
just that smoothness.
Sanika (50:09):
just smooth.
Frank Sinatra operate like silk.
Amy Lenius (50:14):
Him and
Sanika (50:15):
Those that's.
Amy Lenius (50:17):
Ooh, hang with those guys all day.
Sanika (50:21):
Very, very high quality, very movement, you know.
I love it.
Amy, thank you so much for beingon the podcast.
Thank you so much for walking usthrough how you've defined
consistency, how you help somany people in your community.
Define and outline whatconsistency means per season of
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their life.
And this has been phenomenal
Amy Lenius (50:43):
Oh,
Sanika (50:44):
much, and this is.
Amy Lenius (50:45):
said, I don't take this lightly that you have me in
this space, so, so muchgratitude.
Thank you.
This was a beautifulconversation.
You're an incredible host.
Keep doing what you're doing inthe world.
I love it.
Sanika (50:55):
Thank you so much and this is, how do you divide
consistency.
Welcome back to this episode of How Do You Divine,
(00:03):
and today we are here with AmyLinus.
Linus.
Linus.
Amy Lenius (00:08):
I love the inflection.
I love the, it's very,
Sanika (00:10):
I know how I.
Today we are here with Amy Linusand we are going to explore how
we've come to defineconsistency.
And I think that is such a wordthat is used right Amy, across
like so many different um,disciplines.
But first, tell us a little bitabout who is Amy, and thank you
(00:32):
so much for being here.
Amy Lenius (00:34):
I'm so grateful to be here.
I don't take this lightly.
When someone allows me to comein on their platform to speak to
their people, it's genuinely oneof my favorite things and I'm so
grateful.
So thank you so much for havingme here.
I am Amy Lenius.
I live in Canada.
I'm very north of you.
We're kind of in the same timezone, but very much north.
I was actually just recentlydown close to your area in
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Boston, and I work for a companyand with a company called Next
Level University.
They are a couple of guys, Kevinand Alan, and they have a daily
podcast, and I fell in love withtheir holistic approach to
self-improvement.
I started working with them,hanging out with all their free
stuff, getting to know them.
(01:15):
And then one day they asked meto come and be their mc.
They knew I was a public speakerand that I had done a lot of
things like that in my pastleading up to meeting them.
And they said, we would love foryou to come and help us run our
live event and be our mc.
And that's kind of how thepartnership started with them.
And I fell in love with.
Everything that they stand for.
And they had just such abeautiful community of actually
(01:37):
a lot of women.
They had really attracted a lotof heart driven women into their
space.
And so I was just so deeply inlove with that.
And then we kind of moved into,I was helping with speeches and
trainings.
And now I'm director of groupcoaching.
I have my own one-on-onecoaching programs through there
as well, and it's just developedinto this beautiful thing over
(01:59):
the last two and a half years.
And so that is where I'm atright now.
Sanika (02:05):
Awesome.
I love that.
And so tell me about howconsistency has changed.
As you've seen in differentseasons of your life, right?
Like you came across this dailypodcast, it really spoke to you
and you've kind of, you know,you leaned more and more into
that community and now you'releading that community.
You're a part of the overallguidance in that community,
(02:30):
right?
So how have you seen consistencynot only change your world, but
those that are within thecommunity?
Amy Lenius (02:36):
Yeah, thank you.
I think when we hear the wordconsistency, we either have a
positive relationship with it ora very negative one.
We have a belief that we are aconsistent person or we have a
belief that we're not aconsistent person.
I was in the, not a consistentperson belief.
I grew up very sick.
I had a hormonal conditioncalled endometriosis, and it was
(02:58):
a really hard time from pubertyuntil about my early twenties.
It was a lot of doctors,surgeries, medications, all
sorts of things, and I neverfelt one truly seen in all of
that.
It was very much, okay, we'rejust gonna move you to the next
thing, move you to the nextthing.
No one ever talked to me aboutmy body as a whole.
It was always just like, well,here's your uterus and it's.
(03:18):
Very broken and it's causing youa lot of pain.
No one ever talked to me aboutlike gut health, external
environment versus internalenvironment, all of these
things.
And uh, I went through a lotwith that, but because it was so
up and down and because I couldnever really find relief from my
pain, I think I developed areally negative relationship
(03:39):
with the word consistency.
And so I had this kind ofbeautiful revelation one day
where I was like, okay, I'm justgonna step back.
I am going to stop themedications safely, stop going
to these doctors.
I'm gonna just kind of branchout and see what I can find.
And I ended up finding somereally awesome modalities within
natural wellness.
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I found a
Sanika (04:00):
Oh, okay.
Amy Lenius (04:01):
naturopathic doctor.
He talked to me about my body asa whole.
I fell in love with the wordholistic because I realized,
well, my internal environmentshows up in my external
environment, right?
How we're feeling shows upexternally, how our external
environment is set up actuallycauses.
Our health to be successful ornot.
There's so much to go intothere, but I started to learn
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that I can sustainably buildconsistent practices for my
healing that I could really win.
'cause I started in big wins andso I became pain free from a
condition I was told I couldnever be pain-free from.
And when I look back, yeah, allnatural.
(04:43):
I'm on no medications, no moresurgeries, nothing like that.
I have regimens and I am very,very consistent with the things
I do every day.
I.
Yeah, with for my hormonehealth, and that's kind of where
I stepped into this field oflike, I have a background in
anatomy and physiology myself,but this is where I stepped into
(05:03):
public speaking and running myown coaching programs.
I started teaching women abouttheir bodies and their health
and their hormones, and I got tobe on a lot of really incredible
stages doing that kind of work.
what I realized was I could goup there and I could sound
really great, really smart.
Saying all sorts of smart wordsabout your body and things,
people would love what I had tosay and they would feel really
(05:23):
seen, but they couldn't go homeand be consistent with it
themselves.
And so I knew there was amissing piece, and as I started
working with Kevin and Allen, Icould see the whole picture
better of the missing piece.
It was self-belief.
It was self-worth.
Believe it or not, any journeyyou are on, whether it be
monetary health, relationships,self-belief and self-worth come
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in as two pillars that will workagainst you if they're not high
or.
They'll work for you if you'reworking with them.
And consistency plays into bothof those as well.
So now that I've learned so muchmore about the well-roundedness
of, I mean not onlyneuroscience, but how people
work, it's turned into this justbeautiful complete practice that
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I have.
I feel like genuinely I can helpanybody with their version of
success, even just with thesethree words, self-belief, self
forth, and consistency.
always meet the level of those.
That we're
Sanika (06:17):
What are some of the challenges you've seen with
consistency?
Right.
I think we all aspire to beconsistent with either our gym
regimen like and how we eat,where, you know, you were able
to remain consistent because yousaw the benefits, right?
You no longer felt pain.
You immediately saw that onceI'm consistent in what I put in
my body and the environmentsthat I surround, that I occupy.
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I no longer feel pain.
So you got that like, notimmediate gratification, but
you've got that gratification,that with this regimen, with
this consistency, I can see apath of happiness.
Right?
So what, what do you think arelike some of those key things
that prevents us from seeinglike us as a community as a
whole for.
(07:00):
From remaining consistent,right?
Like you said, there'sself-worth, there's self-belief.
But if, I think when we hearconsistency, right, uh, on a
surface we think about, we thinkabout regimens, like you said,
like we need a consistentregimen.
And I think it's oftendifficult.
Because I also coach people, um,for sales and I coach, um, for
(07:22):
sales and business coaching justto help entrepreneurs and career
challengers through difficulttimes.
And one thing I have found isthat identifying what is that
ideal regimen to be consistentwith.
It's difficult,
Amy Lenius (07:37):
Mm-hmm.
Sanika (07:38):
right?
So, so how, how have you helpedpeople identify what their
consistent needs are to be theirbest self?
Amy Lenius (07:47):
Yeah, it's based on their goals.
So when I came into this space,I was coaching with Alan and we
were talking about my health,and we were talking about how I
had gone through this wholejourney and he's like, oh, so
you have a lot of powerinconsistency and self-belief.
And I was like, I don't know.
Self-belief is what we believewe're capable of achieving in
the external environment.
(08:07):
I was like, I don't know.
And he's like, no, if you lookback, you have consistency in
you and you have self-belief inyou.
And he's like, how do youbelieve you could be consistent
in fitness?
And I was like, oh, I can't.
I've never been able to beconsistent in fitness.
I go too hard and then myinflammation kicks up and I had
this narrative running that mybody is still this broken piece
of garbage that's genuinely thenarrative I had.
(08:30):
And so we built this consistencystar, this framework based on a
lot of things we learned throughthis trial and error process of
Kay Amy's fitness.
And so I have been able to beconsistent with a half hour of
moving my body in an aligned wayevery day for 980 something
(08:51):
days, having never beenconsistent in fitness before.
we did it through five veryspecific points, and I'll take
you through those in just asecond.
But what, when someone comes tome and they.
Say, okay, I really wannaachieve this.
It's about reverse engineeringwhat the goal is into what can
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you do every day to make thathappen.
Consistency is built upon what'scalled the Compound Effect.
It's a great book.
Have you ever read
Sanika (09:22):
Yes.
Amy Lenius (09:23):
So
Sanika (09:23):
Yes, I did.
Amy Lenius (09:24):
itself, right?
The concept itself iseverything.
And so if we can do somethingevery day, it's that saying of
Apple a day is better than sevenon Sunday.
Consistency is that we wannaleverage the compound effect
through consistency.
And if you can't do it everyday, it's not something that
you're going to be consistentat.
Or if you can't do it every day,it's because you're setting
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yourself up for failure insteadof success.
We can all do something everyday.
It's just based on ourlifestyle, our views, our
beliefs.
Do we believe it's possible?
Do we believe it's possible forourself?
There's so much to go intothere.
And so when we started.
We broke it down into fivepoints.
It's self-belief, humility,Adaptability and grit and we
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have it in a star.
So it's a five pointed star ofthis.
And self-belief is first becauseyou're only ever going to meet
yourself at the level of youraccurate self-belief.
So what you believe you arecapable of achieving and
especially when you break itdown into an individual goal.
So me, my have very highself-belief that I can come onto
this podcast and speak and havea great conversation with you,
(10:30):
like 10 outta 10.
My self-belief in
Sanika (10:33):
Yes.
Amy Lenius (10:34):
Was like a two outta 10.
So we had to start really small,really
Sanika (10:39):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Amy Lenius (10:41):
we had to know my level of self-belief in this
specific area.
So that's always where we start.
And self-belief is.
Learning to keep the promisesyou make to yourself.
You say you're gonna dosomething, you do it, and then
you self assign, you celebratethe fact that you did this thing
without overthinking, withoutperfectionism, without talking
yourself, outta celebrating, youacknowledge that you did this
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thing.
That's how you buildself-belief.
Sanika (11:07):
No, and I, that reminds me of something that I always
used to say to myself and I sayto my kids all the time, do
something today that your futureself will be so fortunate for.
Right.
Something today that sneak upfive years ago would be like,
I'm so glad you powered throughand you did that.
Right?
Because if we only think aboutthe day as it is, right?
(11:28):
It's like, live for today and bepresent.
Yes.
But if you don't.
Continuously to build blocksright towards the goals that you
want in life.
The, the empire doesn't builditself.
You have to slowly, you know,layer those blocks towards what
you want to be consistent inyour life every single day.
And that like that reminds me ofif I wanna wake up every single
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day and feel, well, I know Ineed to go to bed on time.
If I wanna wake up every singleday and feel good about my body,
I know what I need to eat everyday.
Right.
It's just also, I love that howyou put it.
I love how you put it in termsof self-belief,'cause it really
does put the power for changeand impact solely in your hands,
(12:11):
right?
How, what do you believe you arecapable of doing today?
Amy Lenius (12:16):
That's
Sanika (12:17):
if that is a two out of 10, let's start at a two out of
10.
But I think what often happensis because we are measuring it
against the 10, we don't move.
We don't move.
We stay at the two and we'rejust like, two is never gonna be
as great as 10, so I'm not gonnado anything.
But we don't con, we don'tconsider what happens when two
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is applied.
Consistency for consistently for30 days.
Then two, there comes five.
And then five becomes eight, andthen eight becomes 10.
And by the time you look, youare sitting right at your goal
and you don't even realize yougot there.
So I, so I love how you'vepositioned consistency, right?
(13:02):
Because I think what people needto understand about consistency,
it's not about just repetition,it's about accepting where you
are today and consistently.
Making progress to where youwanna be tomorrow.
Right.
I, I have the saying that Ialways say is like, you have to
build in motion.
(13:23):
You cannot build while you standstill and just in stagnant,
right?
I wanna be, I want, you know,you have a big goal.
It's like, I want this new job.
I wanna build this business, butI don't have enough money, so
I'm gonna just sit here.
Right.
I don't know where to getstarted, so I'm just gonna sit
here.
It is just, I love that you, howthose pillars that you've put
together for consistency again,helps.
(13:46):
People look at themselves andsay, where am I today?
Who do I believe I am?
And what do I want for myself?
And this is how I can apply someconsistency.
So tell me how, well, we knowhow consistency has changed your
life, right?
Can you share some stories onhow, you know you've helped
others, uh, acknowledge theimportance of consistency in
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their life in with the smallwins and the big wins?
Amy Lenius (14:10):
Yeah, definitely.
And so I love how you built uponthe self-belief there.
It is.
It's so valuable.
I love what you do with yourchildren.
I feel the very same about mine.
And I think us embodying thatourselves is always gonna be
such a beautiful lesson forthem.
Right.
And so with self-belief,sometimes it's about checking
the box, like you said, andhaving really.
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A deep understanding.
That's why humility is second, adeep understanding of where
you're at.
So let's take it through withfitness and then I'll give you
an example of a woman I'mhelping you, I'm helping with
right now, and she's doing justincredible things.
So with my fitness, when welooked at, okay, what's the 10?
It was, well, a 10 would begoing to a gym every day for an
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hour and lifting weights likehard pass.
I live in a small town on a dirtroad that doesn't even have a
gym like, so that's.
Hard pass.
That's not even, it's not even areality for me anytime soon.
And so we built back from there.
Well, do you think you couldwork out for five minutes a day?
Oh yeah, absolutely.
So there was the zero and thenwe built into, okay, well what
(15:14):
about 10 minutes, 20, 30?
And I said, I can do 30 as longas it's within the realm of I
get to do what I want in thatday.
And so some days it looked like,yeah, waits.
Some days it's a walk.
Some days it's stretchingbecause all it is is about
aligning and moving my body in away that feels good in that day.
And so that took a lot ofhumility.
That's the next step.
(15:35):
You need to be super accurate inwhere you're at currently and
have acceptance around that andthat it's okay, like you said,
to build that two into thethree, into the four, into the
five.
And as you go, we alwaysoverestimate what we can do in a
day.
We constantly, as humans,underestimate what we can
achieve in a year.
Sanika (15:55):
I agree a hundred percent.
My, my daily to-do list isridiculous, and I often, after I
write them and read them, remindmyself to give myself grace,
because I, I, I always say I, Iused to be a humble person.
Used to always say like, I'msuch a humble person, which I
am, but I found that I havechanged my own definition of
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humility.
Right.
And how it is shown up in theworld.
So I would prefer to just givemyself grace, right?
Just give yourself a lot ofgrace to where you are now and
where you wanna be tomorrow,because I think something about
grace just signals the empathyrequired for you to properly
(16:39):
assess who you are today,
Amy Lenius (16:40):
Yeah,
Sanika (16:41):
right?
Versus humility sometimes can bediminishing.
Amy Lenius (16:48):
depending on
Sanika (16:49):
Your, of your exactly.
Humility in its in itsstandalone could be, oh, I need
to be humble.
I need to be graceful.
I need to like you understandwhat I, I need to kind of
diminish in order to amplify.
So humility and me, and humilityhas had, you know, I'm a
wordsmith me and humility ishaving some is having some
trouble these days.
(17:09):
But grace, having some grace foryourself and where you are
today.
I think will make you, willallow people to properly assess
where they are today.
Right.
Because I think when you look atit in bare face, you're just
like, yeah, I can't beconsistent at work because I.
Of my rise.
I can't be consistent in fitnessbecause of the gym.
(17:32):
Like, you know what I mean?
The, we have all of thesereasons.
I can't be consistent inbuilding the business because of
funding.
I can't, like we can, there areso many reasons we cannot,
right?
But if we look at things fromthe standpoint of giving
yourself grace, you start tosee, oh, I can't build a
business because I don't havefull funding right now.
But what I can do is create thelogo.
(17:55):
What I can do is start tooutline the operational man
model, right?
What I can do is, you know, Ican't go to the gym, but what I
can do is take that 30 minutewalk'cause grace allows you to
see yourself with so muchbeauty.
And towards consistency.
I just often, our minds are justwired towards negative language,
(18:20):
limited, limited frameworks, andusing words like grace when
aligned with consistency, Ithink softens it a bit, right?
Because I think we, in ourworld.
When you hear consistency, it'slike put out content every
single day.
Be at work, be the first one inthe first one out.
Build that business, 365 days, 275, you sleep when you're dead.
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Like those are the type of conlike those, those are the type
of concepts we think of when wehear consistency.
And I think part of relearningand redefining it for ourselves
is understanding thatconsistency can be graceful.
Amy Lenius (19:00):
Ah.
Completely.
Completely.
That's why number four isadaptability.
Another word for that is grace.
It's understanding your currentstate and what do you need to do
to adapt your current state toyour goal.
I.
And so humility, it's tough whenwe have lower self-worth and we
have some self-worth stuff.
Humility gets taken on.
(19:21):
Kind of like you said when youwere struggling with that word.
Humility just needs to bedeveloped into just an accurate
sense of self.
And then the top of the star isthe sustainability.
If it is not sustainable, youwill not be able to do it every
day, so you need to make it intoa block of time that is
sustainable without guilt,without judgment, without shame.
(19:43):
If you can't do something for anhour every day, I am a
homeschooling country, livingmom who is also in this
business, like I have to besustainable and adaptable all
the time.
You're a mother.
You know how reactive life canbe when you have children and
things, and so sustainabilityand adaptive.
Ability are right side by side.
And another word foradaptability, and this is Grace,
(20:05):
is you know what?
Today was a shit show of a day.
I still need to do my workout,and the kids are this, and I am
this, and this was this.
It's eight o'clock at night, butI said I would do this thing.
And so you know what?
The kids are in bed.
I'm actually just gonna lie downand stretch for a half hour.
I'm gonna honor my body that wayfor half an hour to come down
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because I'm not gonna pick upthe weights or go for a hike at
night or things.
That's the beauty of theadaptability piece and the grace
piece you're talking about.
It's giving that sense ofacceptance of your lifestyle, of
where you're at in that day.
Even as women with our cyclesand things, we do not have the
same energetic level every day.
We cannot push.
(20:46):
week four, like we do in weektwo, two and a half, it's not
the same.
It's grace and understandingthere is so important, and
that's why that adaptabilitypiece is key.
I sh I put that in there myself.
I was like, we need to be ableto adapt.
I, yeah.
Sanika (21:01):
Yes, absolutely.
And you know, that reminded meof Atomic Habits, like you
talked about, the compoundeffect.
I love Atomic Habits as well.
Amy Lenius (21:09):
Oh.
Sanika (21:10):
And yes, I, that's a book I love.
Amy Lenius (21:14):
right here with my books and atomic habits and the
consistency or the compoundeffector on them.
But I put the wallpaper up andnow my
Sanika (21:20):
Yes.
Yes, because I think it's soimportant, right?
And for those who haven't readAtomic Habits, it really shows
you how to make essentially 1%.
Progress in every single day bystacking your habits to towards
your ultimate goal.
And that reminded me of, likeyou said, life happens.
(21:43):
There are days that you plan outall the things and you know, 5%
of the things get done and thekids get sick and you gotta pick
them up from school.
And it's like a whole thing,right?
And it reminds me of when Icreated this.
This measure for myself, right?
Because I again, could not beconsistent with working out to
save my life after baby numbertwo career.
(22:06):
I was just like, it is gonna bewhat it's gonna be.
I started this thing called mybare minimum.
Amy Lenius (22:12):
Oh love.
Sanika (22:13):
So.
So every single day I am, I usedto be an OCD clean freak, right?
So the things that I truly lookforward to is like take every
single night is taking a shower,a long hot shower, and like
getting myself ready to bed.
You think I'm going somewherethe way I take my night routine?
Very serious, right?
(22:34):
And during this time I readAtomic Habits and what came to
mind was Sonika, you need tocreate a bare minimum.
So that if I don't get to thegym, if I don't get to walk the
dog, if I don't get a long walkbefore I get in that shower, I
have to do four exercises, foursets
Amy Lenius (22:53):
Mm.
I.
Sanika (22:53):
in, one.
It became my bare minimum, andthat's how I kept fitness and
consistency in my life because Iknew myself.
You know, as a day dwindleddown, you finally put the kids
to bed.
Everyone ate dinner.
I am.
Ooh, I'm tingling.
Looking forward to that showerto just like wind down.
(23:16):
And then I'd go, you gotta earnit.
You got to do your bare minimum.
And it's now, now it's likesecond nature.
If I don't go to the gym, if Idon't walk, I'm on the floor in
my bedroom with the mat doing mybare minimum because it's
something like Atomic Habits.
It was something that I stackedwith a habit that I enjoyed,
(23:37):
with something that I knew Ineeded to do.
Right, and it, it's, I love howwe are outlining how we've come
to define consistency becauseconsistency is just that small,
sustainable actions that we cantake forward and continue to
build upon and compound upon.
Amy Lenius (23:59):
yes.
So much.
Yes.
I love the habit stacking.
I love what you're doing andeverything.
I can see when you, you,yourself, are putting these
regimens into your life, you'rehonoring yourself so deeply.
So like these little things thatyou create for yourself, this is
why you have high self-beliefand self-worth, I can tell, but
it's because you've built thosepractices and you're keeping the
promises you make to yourselfand you're investing in yourself
(24:20):
these ways.
All of these things buildself-worth and self.
Belief.
So self-belief being thatexternal game, self-worth is the
internal game, and a big part ofthat is doing everything you
just said.
And so that's really beautiful.
And again, that adaptation andgrace and understanding, here's
my bare minimum, becausegenuinely it is sometimes just
about checking the box, not howit looks, not how well you did,
(24:42):
not the outcome of it.
It's about checking the box forthe sake of that internal game
for the sake of becoming someonewho says.
I am consistent.
I am adaptable.
I have self-belief, I haveself-worth.
I'm gonna invest in myself thisway, even if it's messy.
And those kind of principles hasreally helped me let go of that
perfectionism mindset.
(25:03):
If I can't do it perfect, Idon't need to, I don't wanna do
it at all.
And I used to live in thatspace, and so that has also
taught me to have messy action.
Mm-hmm.
Sanika (25:13):
Yeah, anything less than a hundred percent.
But it also reminds me thatkeeping promises I make for
myself is of the utmostimportance, right?
I think once you're a mom andyou are just a woman, like you
don't even have to be a mom, buta woman in, in this world,
keeping promises to yourselfbecomes further and further
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lower of the priority list.
Because we're genuinely alwaystaking care of someone else.
Even if you have children oryour partner or whatever, you're
genuinely always taking care ofsomeone else.
And then the promises you makefor yourself become not even a,
a question, a thought in yourmind.
And I learned that in order forme to show up for anyone, I
needed to show up for myselffirst.
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Like.
Amy Lenius (25:57):
That's right.
Sanika (25:58):
First and foremost.
Amy Lenius (25:59):
Mm-hmm.
Sanika (26:00):
so like I started to think, how, what does that look
like?
What do I, what does that feellike?
And I think when we think aboutconsistency, I think that's a
good question the audience andeveryone can ask theirselves is
how do I consistently wanna showup for myself every single day
so that I feel like I'm givingSonika the love that Sonika
(26:20):
gives out.
Amy Lenius (26:21):
Yes, yes.
And so many of us hear that andwe think, oh, taking care of
myself is selfish.
I don't have to do that.
I can keep giving at the extentthat I'm giving.
And you know what?
I think women do great things,self-sacrificing and all of this
stuff.
But I'm telling you, as someonewho has flipped that script and
who honors myself first, so thatI can give.
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My maximum effort so that I cangive what is best of me, not
just what is left of meconstantly.
It has, it's, it's better overhere.
Genuinely.
The
Sanika (26:53):
Yeah,
Amy Lenius (26:54):
the hero complex, the Marty,
Sanika (26:55):
everyone, everyone got so much more from that one, and
I think
Amy Lenius (27:00):
yes.
Sanika (27:00):
the problem is conditioning, right?
Prob the problem is conditioninga lot of times in their, in
either your community, yourfamily, or your upbringing.
The, the messages were.
Consistently show up for otherpeople, consistently be of
service to other people, whichin so many ways is wonderful,
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but how can you do that if youdon't consistently show up for
yourself?
I.
Amy Lenius (27:26):
Yeah, and just like you said, the narrative of
women.
Women, typically, we have theunderlying narrative and so does
society, that our worth comesfrom what and who we are to
other people.
Are we a good daughter?
Are we a good spouse?
Are we a good mother though?
Like that's where our worth.
I.
Societally comes from.
And so we automatically havethat ingrained that we need to
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sacrifice ourself for others toeven feel worthy and lovable.
so there's a whole narrativethere that
Sanika (27:54):
Which is so weird and at a consistent level that we don't
even know is sustainable,
Amy Lenius (27:59):
Oh yeah.
Sanika (28:00):
right?
So you, you, and then you comeacross these varying people
that's like, I gave my all tothat relationship.
I gave my all to that job, Igave my all to this business.
And it's just like, first ofall, what have you consistently
giving your all of you two?
Can, can we, can we assess whatthat is?
Right.
Because I just, it, it, it, ithurts me deeply when I feel like
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there are people pouring andgiving their valued asset, which
is their energy.
I just feel like human beingsare designed to be good, right?
And have great energy and.
You have this asset that is so,it's not, it's not tangible.
There is no value.
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Dollar amount you can puttowards it because it's so
phenomenal and you put ittowards things that don't serve
you in a positive way, or youdon't even acknowledge that it
exists and it diminishes anddies within you.
There are people that live anddie every day and never live a
day.
Amy Lenius (29:03):
Yeah.
Sanika (29:05):
All because no one have taught them, or even shown them
or gave them the ability to say,if you consistently look in the
mirror at yourself every day forone minute, you'll start to see
how great you are.
Or if you consistently gooutside every single day and
walk in the sun, it will helphow you feel emotionally.
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You know what I mean?
I think when we hearconsistency, I want everyone to
understand it is a commitmentyou make to yourself every
single day to towards somethingyou desire,
Amy Lenius (29:39):
100%.
100%.
learning to honor that withinyourself every day is going to
build you to a place where youare able to not only attract,
but sustain healthyrelationships.
Healthy jobs, all of thosethings, you're gonna be more
equipped to deal with.
What comes with that, if you aremore fulfilled, is, is
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everything.
And it's a huge part of that ishow you are, what your quality
of life is and what that meansto you.
And I think consistency isindividual game.
It really is because I can nevercompare my, let's keep using
fitness, my fitness journey to awoman who's in her young
twenties who lives in anapartment building.
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She's got a gym right in thebasement of that building and
she can go and spend three hoursthere every morning.
'cause she doesn't havechildren, she doesn't have all
of these things.
And if I look at that and I'mlike, oh, I suck.
I suck
Sanika (30:38):
Yeah,
Amy Lenius (30:39):
do that.
It's like you are comparingapples to frigging peanuts.
You are not comparing apples toapples.
Well, what are we doing?
So, a,
Sanika (30:50):
what they say?
Comparison Is this the
Amy Lenius (30:52):
it can
Sanika (30:53):
thief?
Amy Lenius (30:53):
thief, thief of all joy.
It can also be used forinspiration.
So if I'm looking at this young20-year-old woman and I'm trying
to compare and thinking I suck.
Well, that's not, that's nothealthy.
That's gonna hit me in my selfworth every day.
But if I can find a woman, let'ssay on Instagram, we all love
to, you know, compare to ourother people online.
So it's ingrained within us todo so.
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And I find someone who's alsoalmost in her forties, maybe she
loves to live in the country andmaybe she homeschools her kids
like I do, but she has a fitnessregime that I could look up to
and be inspired by seeing that,hey, she has done this thing.
Maybe I can have a piece of thatand do that too.
you can compare it forinspiration as long as it's
apples to apples, or you cancompare it to a detriment.
(31:38):
And so if that is you, if you'recomparing at a detriment, try
and find someone who is in amore similar lifestyle than you
and see if you can get inspiredinstead.
Sanika (31:49):
That is so good.
I think that's a great point,right?
Because I think you're right.
We do kind of see people out inthe world on the Internets and
all of these, even people in ourcommunity, and we're like, oh, I
wish I could have that or dothis like that person or
whatever it is, and.
Sometimes, uh, it just leansinto comparison where it should
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just be inspiration, right?
But then also be honest withyourself and be graceful about
it.
That is this a, a truecomparison?
Like this person could have amore wealthier background.
They're 20 years younger, 20years older.
Like let's be honest about whoyou are.
Right?
And that's where I think Grace,alongside with consistency, will
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put you in a place where you'rehappy and you're fulfilled so
that you are consistentlyshowing up as yourself.
Because I do see that, I do seewhere people are like, oh, I see
that you do this and I wanna dothis.
Thing.
And I'm just like, I love thatyou wanna do this thing, let's
do this thing together, butlet's compare the structure and
the foundation, right?
(32:54):
Because in order for you to getto A to B, you need a vehicle of
some sort.
And if somebody is driving aFerrari and we on a two, two
wheel bicycle, we gonna getthere, but we're not gonna get
there as fast,
Amy Lenius (33:07):
Yeah,
Sanika (33:08):
you know?
And that's the part that Ithink,
Amy Lenius (33:12):
Sorry, go ahead.
Sanika (33:13):
No, no, I was gonna say, that's the part that I want
people to understand.
The knowing the gold, knowingthe target, you don't have to
have a clear vision.
Right?
And it, I could go into thewhole tangent about Gen Z, about
them not wanting to move becausethey wanna find purpose first.
Right?
Purpose is found in motion, but.
I think, uh, helping people seeand understand that if you come
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across something that inspiresyou, that moves, you pull closer
to it, but not for comparison.
Not to, to, to, uh, mimic it,not to become that thing, but to
evaluate it.
Amy Lenius (33:50):
That,
Sanika (33:51):
But to evaluate it
Amy Lenius (33:53):
that Because sometimes, Because sometimes we
see someone with this result.
And we think, oh, I want that,but we're not looking at what it
took.
But also if it's aligned withwho we are and the things we
value, typically we see an endresult and we're not looking at
the journey, and we're notlooking at who we are.
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I can't tell you how many peoplewe have worked with where they
want this end result, but itdoes not align with their core
values at all.
Someone wanted to be a CEO,build this whole business
entrepreneur, and we're like,okay, well how do you feel about
time freedom?
Oh, it's everything.
Like, do you wanna be there foryour kids as they grow up?
Oh yes, 100%.
I wanna be there to pick my kidsup off the, then this is not the
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path for you.
You are going to hate yourselfby the end.
And so how can we buildsomething that gives you these
similar things but aligns withyour values?
Knowing your core values iseverything.
My top three core values arefreedom, love, and growth.
You can see freedom in everylike little bit of thing we do.
I work from home.
I homeschool my kids.
We have chickens that give usour own eggs.
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Like they're just little thingsthat show up in that.
And there are so many choices Icould have made going into the
businesses and things I wanna dothat would've been so misaligned
with that, that I would've beenmiserable throughout and at the
end.
And so knowing that about myselfand knowing that my family life
is still the most prioritybecause I love, love and the way
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my household runs.
If my house isn't in a goodenergy, I can't put my best work
out, I will always prioritizethat energy.
So, right.
So knowing that about my myselfmeans I have to make certain
choices right now while my kidsare small, I can have plans for
when they're bigger and moreself-sufficient, but I can't
live those plans right nowbecause this is more important.
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And so knowing
Sanika (35:41):
Yes, in this season of your life,
Amy Lenius (35:44):
Yes.
Sanika (35:45):
in this season of your life, like, and I think you hit
it right on the head by saying,evaluate the things you desire
because just because it looks.
Like a beautiful, consistentlife that I would want bring it
in a little bit closer to trulyevaluate it.
Because will you be able to doand live within those core
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values if you aspire to do thatthing?
If
Amy Lenius (36:12):
Right.
Sanika (36:13):
you aspire to consistently to be a CEO?
Right.
And it's interesting'cause Italk to people all the time.
They're like, oh, I wanna startthis and I wanna start that.
And I'm like, tell me how you'dmanage it.
Give me an ideal day.
Amy Lenius (36:25):
Yes.
Sanika (36:25):
You know what I mean?
So it's good that you're able tosay, I, I, I love freedom.
I love, love.
Same.
I'm always like, I, I am nothingwithout my family.
If my husband and my girls arenot smiling from ear to ear, I'm
not.
Right.
Like we just, we are just thatkind of household where we just,
we hang out, we chill, we chat,Hey, I'm chilling.
(36:45):
Chat.
It's all we do.
And if that is not well, I amnot well.
Amy Lenius (36:52):
That's right.
Sanika (36:52):
So it's knowing these key pieces of your life that
needs to be consistently, uh, ina good position for you to be
your best self because no, Idon't think everyone does that
in valuation.
What do I need to be?
Well, every day consistently,not just for myself, but for my
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environment,
Amy Lenius (37:15):
Mm-hmm.
That's
Sanika (37:16):
right?
Because your environment plays abig component in your overall
wellness, and are you the kindof person that can thrive in
chaos?
Let's just say what are yourgoals?
Is I do.
I now live in the suburbs.
I wanna be one of those peoplethat live in a building and have
a gym downstairs.
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That's what I want.
'cause I think that is who, butis that the lifestyle that's
going to make you happy
Amy Lenius (37:42):
Mm-hmm.
That's right.
Yeah.
are you gonna be fulfilled andis it gonna be the quality of
life that you want?
And all of these things, becauseyou will reach the ceiling of
your goals if you don't have allof those things along the way.
And if you're not cultivatingthose things along the way and
adapting and having grace andlike all of these things along
the way, those all build intoyour consistency.
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People hear consistencies like,oh, I just have to do this every
day.
There is so many layersunderneath that for you to even
make that possible, and that isokay.
It is okay if you need to dothis deep dive into this thing
to be consistent.
In fact, I think you shouldreally, because at the end of
the day, the things you wanna beconsistent in.
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the things that matter to youthe most?
I was building this whole thinginto entrepreneurialship.
I had my own women's healthcoaching program, public
speaking, all of these things.
I had the Peaceful Periodproject, it was called, and we
met for nine weeks.
And I taught women about theirbodies, their hormones, their
cycles, everything I could pourinto them to empower them with
the information they need to goand be the women that they can
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be.
And I, I loved it.
I did, I loved it so much, but apart of me wasn't.
Fully into theentrepreneurialship part of it
because of the lifestyle that Ihave and want.
And so when I found Kevin andAllen in Next Level University
and I got to partner with themand be an intrapreneur, oh,
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found my spot, found my sweetspot, my time freedom, my
things, but yet I have somethingto be a part of instead of the
director of.
I love that.
I, like I always use thisanalogy with Alan.
He's the CEO and he coaches meand all of these things.
I'm like, I feel like I'm thelightsaber and I have so much
potential and you, I just needsomeone to wield me in the right
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direction.
And I just thrive in that.
I'm like, so you be the Jedi andyou just wield the lightsaber.
Let's go, let's do great things.
But
Sanika (39:38):
I love that analogy.
That is a great analogy.
And I also just, I have tohighlight the beauty in that,
the power in that, right?
Because I think often.
The world Society makes you feellike the only best position is
the CEO,
Amy Lenius (39:56):
That's right.
Sanika (39:57):
the O, the, the goal, the only good goal to have is
the CEO, but that's not the goalfor everyone.
Amy Lenius (40:05):
No.
And
Sanika (40:05):
the, the SVP is a great.
Amy Lenius (40:07):
for that.
So many of us do not have the
Sanika (40:09):
The SU is a great place to be.
The director is a great place tobe.
The individual contributor is agood place to be.
The question is, what if Ialways say, if you put money
aside, what is your ideallifestyle?
I.
Put money aside.
And what is your ideallifestyle?
Do you wanna be learning everysingle day?
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Do you wanna be inspiringsomeone every single day?
Do you wanna be speaking to themasses every single day or not?
Or would you rather just bedrawing?
Would you rather just bebuilding like it?
It's in order to find what thatconsistent sense of fulfillment
and happiness is, you have to bereal with yourself and do that
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on it.
Amy Lenius (40:52):
Yes.
Sanika (40:53):
You have to see the things that aspire you out in
the world that you wanna compareyourself to, and then bring them
in a little bit closer, evaluatethem, and then do a proper
audit.
I always say that like I, I'mnot a strategist'cause they
train me to be.
It's'cause that's just how mybrain works.
I, I, that's just how my mindworks.
I'm just like, I can take all ofthese things and then make it
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into something that makes sense.
You know what I mean?
And when we look at our lives,we have to be able to do that.
I always, like, I have a lot ofclose friends that they're like,
SNE, you're gonna be great.
I, I just wanna be a part ofyour, your business.
And I'm just like, but what doyou wanna do?
Amy Lenius (41:29):
Yeah.
Sanika (41:30):
I was like, I never wanted to give anyone an
assignment or a role thatdoesn't align with who you wanna
be and what you wanna do.
And until you identify that,it's separate from the
opportunity, right?
Because sometimes I think wejust go out and we see these
opportunities and we see thesespaces and we're like, oh, do
that.
I wanna do that.
I wanna try that.
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I wanna be that person.
I'm gonna be that person, whichis lovely.
A hundred percent do that.
But before you jump.
Evaluate, bring it in a littlecloser.
Assess this person that's doingthat thing has this level of
consistency doing X, can Iconsistently do X?
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Do I consistently wanna do Y ordo I just love the way Z looks?
Amy Lenius (42:19):
That's right.
Sanika (42:20):
Do I do, I just love the way Z looks and, and I think, I
love how we have definedconsistency around not just
doing a thing, but knowing whyyou're doing it and where you're
going.
Amy Lenius (42:37):
Yeah.
purpose behind the thing you'retrying to be consistent in
really matters.
It's gonna be your drivingforce.
So number five on the star isgrit, because sometimes we just
have to get it done.
You doing it right before you doall of your things that you
love.
That takes a level of grit.
It's the end of the day.
You just wanna have your showerand do your beautiful things
that you do.
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But you said you were gonna dothis thing and you have to adapt
to the moment.
But the reason you get it doneis there's a certain level of
grit.
Sometimes we just have to havethis moment of, you know what?
I'm feeling this, I'm feelingthis.
It's like, you know what f myfeelings for just a moment.
What are the facts?
I said I was gonna do thisthing.
What's the bare minimum that Ican do to check the box and just
get it done?
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That takes a certain level ofgrit, and so that's what it is.
Self-belief, humility,sustainability, adaptability,
and grace and grit.
Some days you just gotta get itdone and that's gonna help you
build consistency.
Sanika (43:33):
Yes.
I was gonna say the five pillarsof consistency.
Amy Lenius (43:37):
Mm-hmm.
Sanika (43:37):
That, that, that is awesome.
Be especially grit, right?
I think I.
Depending on your experience,grit can mean so many different
things, and I think if goingback to like being graceful with
yourself in all things, grit isjust getting it done.
Sometimes I like to, I alwayssay sometimes you need to
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separate yourself from the task.
It is not, it doesn't have to beyou.
Amy Lenius (44:03):
Yes,
Sanika (44:04):
You know what I mean?
It's.
It's just I'm doing a thingbecause we get so caught up in
my emotions, and like you said,some days I'm just super tired.
I'm just like, I had a day withthe girls.
I had a day at work.
I just really wanna get in theshower and get in the bed, but
I'm just like, Ika had a badday.
But Ika also promised to getthis done.
Amy Lenius (44:25):
that's right.
Sanika (44:26):
So how am I gonna get this done and I just block it
all out and get it done right?
So it's just activating thatsense of grit that you have for
yourself and say, the why.
Amy Lenius (44:38):
Mm-hmm.
Sanika (44:39):
am I even doing this separate?
The emotion, one plus one equalstwo, I, I set a goal for this
reason, I'm gonna do it and I'mgonna get it done.
Amy Lenius (44:48):
Mm-hmm.
It doesn't have to look perfecttoday.
It just has to get done.
days you're going to be, you'regonna have the capacity to do
this thing really well, and somedays you're not.
And having acceptance aroundthat and then learning to grid
it out and get it done anywaysis going to serve you so much
deeper than anything else.
Long term, genuinely.
And so where are you?
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Because when we look at fivethings, it can be overwhelming,
especially if we're not used tobeing consistent.
So I've just given you fivethings to look at.
If you can pick one on that staror of those pillars that you
know is the lowest for you.
So mine was grit.
I grew up very sick.
So it was very hard for me toput myself in uncomfortable
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positions because I had finallybecome not uncomfortable
physically, and that it, it wasreally hard for me to push
myself because I had so muchscarcity around what that would
look like for me.
And so evaluating even you cando from one to five or zero to
five on each one of thosethings.
How much belief do you have inyourself?
How accurately can you assesswhere you're at?
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How sustainable can you makesomething?
It takes humility to buildsustainability.
Okay?
Meeting yourself where you'reat.
If it's only five minutes a day,then that's where you start.
Adaptability is grace.
Are you?
An overthinker and aperfectionist, you're gonna
struggle to give yourself thatgrace if that's the lowest score
for you.
Start practicing self-acceptanceand grace.
Or maybe you're like me and gritis the thing that you need to
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focus on the most.
Don't look at the whole star allat once.
Pick one.
Where are you in the evaluationof that?
Pick one, and then how can youbuild consistency in that one
thing and then expand out fromthere.
Sanika (46:25):
I love that.
Thank you so much.
That was to me, again, sograceful.
As I've said that since I've metyou, I'm just like, I love the
kindness in your guidance and,and, and the kindness in how you
usher people through the world.
Amy Lenius (46:42):
Thank
Sanika (46:43):
It, it just ate around you.
This level of you can do it, youhave all the things and it
doesn't have to be rough.
Amy Lenius (46:53):
Yeah.
Sanika (46:54):
know, I, I love that.
I love that.
Thank you so much for sharingthe star of consistency, right?
And how we have come to defineconsistency and we can redefine
consistency.
And before I let you go, ab, youknow, I'm a music girl, you know
that the rhythms.
That keeps us in our world isimportant.
(47:16):
So tell me, what are you vibingon this week, Amy?
I know you just traveled.
You came to the America, youcame to the States, went back to
Canada, came back.
Tell me, what were you jabbingon?
Amy Lenius (47:29):
Oh my goodness.
Music actually is a huge part ofmy life.
I am obsessed with everythingfrom like the fifties to the
early two thousands.
After that, it gets a little,I'm like, I don't know, but, uh,
but I like nineties alternative,genuinely is my favorite.
I can always go, like,everyone's like, oh, what brings
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you into a state of like, peaceand gets you ready for your
coaching and all these things.
I'm like, honestly, it's likerock.
And sometimes metal, and it'sjust this weird thing I have in
me that I love.
Like I love complicated music.
It's one of the very few thingsthat quiets my brain.
And so it needs to have a lot ofcomplexity to it.
Instruments and all of thesethings for me to be like, ah,
(48:11):
yes,
Sanika (48:14):
Nice.
So what's your go-to song?
I love how you consider rockcomplex music because of all the
different ments.
I love that.
Ooh.
So tell me, tell me, tell mewhat's your favorite song If
you're like, I need to zone inright now and focus on the
proposal, I need to focus onthis meeting.
What are you putting on?
What, what Alexa play, what?
Amy Lenius (48:34):
Oh my goodness.
One song I could never,
Sanika (48:38):
One song I know.
Amy Lenius (48:41):
I could never, it is like if I have my go-to, it is
my alternative rock playlist.
And there are a few on there.
There's like a Lincoln Parksong, a POD song for sure.
A three Days Grace song inthere.
So like those three bands arebig for me.
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Definitely I don't, I couldn'tchoose and then I have to go
back and it's like Led Zeppelin,
Sanika (49:08):
I.
Amy Lenius (49:08):
it.
I.
Sanika (49:13):
See, I talk, I always say like, choosing your favorite
song sometimes do feel likechoosing a favorite child.
It's so hard.
Amy Lenius (49:22):
It's impossible.
It is.
It does.
Like, if I need like a, a gist,I have this song.
It's, uh, Frank Sinatra SummerWind.
It's beautiful.
It feels so flowy.
It's nice and casual, likethat's like one of my favorites.
But then sometimes, you know, itdepends on the mood.
Depends on the mood.
Sanika (49:39):
Depends on the movie.
Amy Lenius (49:41):
You never
Sanika (49:41):
Listen, it depends.
You could never choose Ooh.
Especially a nice Frank Sinatrasong.
Have you ever like looked up hisperformances on YouTube
Amy Lenius (49:50):
Right.
Suave
Sanika (49:54):
Like,
Amy Lenius (49:54):
man.
Sanika (49:54):
so Swamp?
I'm like, there are few humansthat operate like silk.
You know, operate like silk.
I feel like Luther VROs operatelike silk,
Amy Lenius (50:07):
just that smoothness.
Sanika (50:09):
just smooth.
Frank Sinatra operate like silk.
Amy Lenius (50:14):
Him and
Sanika (50:15):
Those that's.
Amy Lenius (50:17):
Ooh, hang with those guys all day.
Sanika (50:21):
Very, very high quality, very movement, you know.
I love it.
Amy, thank you so much for beingon the podcast.
Thank you so much for walking usthrough how you've defined
consistency, how you help somany people in your community.
Define and outline whatconsistency means per season of
(50:41):
their life.
And this has been phenomenal
Amy Lenius (50:43):
Oh,
Sanika (50:44):
much, and this is.
Amy Lenius (50:45):
said, I don't take this lightly that you have me in
this space, so, so muchgratitude.
Thank you.
This was a beautifulconversation.
You're an incredible host.
Keep doing what you're doing inthe world.
I love it.
Sanika (50:55):
Thank you so much and this is, how do you divide
consistency.
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