June 4, 2025 • 36 mins
In this episode of 'How Do You Divine,' Sanika takes a reflective pause to discuss the journey of the podcast and the concept of 'sticking up in' – a Caribbean phrase for pausing and reflecting. She delves into what success means in the Black community, especially in terms of parenting, using public figures like Shedeur Sanders, Bronny James, and Blue Ivy as examples. She also explores the role of nepotism, the importance of attending cultural and professional events, and the power of following your gut in career transitions. The discussion ends with commentary on current TV shows and a desire to avoid certain pop culture drama.
The episode is infused with personal anecdotes and cultural reflections aimed at encouraging thoughtful living and community engagement.Join her for a laid-back yet profound conversation that encourages you to take inventory of your life, your goals, and your definition of success.
Tv Shows mentioned in the episode
- Forever written reimagined by Mara Brock Akil (Netflix)
- Special Ops: Lioness (Paramount)
- Your Friends & Neighbors (Apple TV)
- The Real Housewives of Atlanta (Bravo)
What I am reading/ read this month
- Who Better Than You ?: The Art of Healthy Arrogance & Dreaming Big by Will Packer
- Love & Whiskey by Fawn Weaver
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Sanika is a storyteller, communicator, and creator passionate about exploring self-discovery, culture, and the power of words. With a background in technology and marketing communications; she has built a platform dedicated to authentic conversations that inspire growth, challenge perspectives, and amplify voices.
As the host of How Do You Divine?, she invites listeners to redefine meaning, embrace transformation, and navigate life—one word at a time. Her mission? To create space for reflection, empowerment, and deeper connections through storytelling.
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Welcome back to this episode ofHow Do You Divine?
And today we are gonna stick upin, and what does that even
mean?
Stay tuned.
So every few episodes I take alittle reflection, I pause so
that we discuss what we've seenthus far.
And if you're from theCaribbean, you know what stick
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up in means.
And in this episode, I speakmore in my two dialects as a
Jamaican.
To teach you what it means tostick up in hold, a discussion,
and pause right there.
Let's think through what we'veseen, not only on the podcast,
but in our communities and inour space.
No guest, there is nointerviews, just me.
Let's stick up in.
Every few episodes I take alittle time to reflect, to run
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through the movements and theculture and give y'all a real
raw tick from from the headlinesto the heart.
It's a more laid back, a littlemore fun and a whole lot of
truth.
To stick up in means, say, come.
And sit down on the front porchand talk about what the podcast
has been thus far.
Some things that we've seen inour community that we can unpack
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and really just take a pausebecause in this day of digital
age, information comes and goesreally quickly and often we just
are so reactive to it that wehold on to that moment of that
emotion, right?
We saw this in the headlines andthat in the headlines, and it's
just ultimately.
Always shocking us withinformation that wouldn't even
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say what happened, how thatlook.
So in this episode, let's stickup in.
Welcome to everyone who is newto the podcast.
And let's first discuss thepodcast thus far.
We're in a new rhythm and we'rein a new rhyme.
The different stages, thedifferent sets.
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My commitment is to ensure thatwe have content for the podcast
on a regular basis.
We started this season trying tocommit to weekly episodes and
quickly learn enough work.
That's enough.
And not just that it's a lot ofwork.
Honestly, from a schedulingperspective, it has become quite
difficult to ensure the qualityof the podcast.
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So as of this episode, we havemoved to every other Wednesday.
Audio versions will be availableon all podcast platforms, and
the videos will be availablethat.
Friday.
So audio every other Wednesday,and video on Fridays that's the
pace that we're trying tomaintain, this isn't just
content, it's a conversationwith purpose.
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So subscribe, tell a friend for,tell a friend, tap and sneak
over there.
Do something good.
And we are all our vibe.
Our first topic is today is whatdoes success mean in the black
community?
This question came to mind whenI saw so many dis different
conversations happening aroundthe trajectory of Shado Sanders,
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as well as Brony James and BlueIvy, right?
These are kids of well-knownathletes, celebrities,
entertainers.
These children were raised inwhat I feel to be a great
environment we don't know theirhouseholds, so we can only speak
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for to what we know.
But ultimately I wanted to havethis discussion about what does
success mean in terms of parent,in terms of parenting to you.
You don't have to need to be aparent in order to answer that
question.
'cause we've all been children,right?
What does success look like toyou?
Because for me, I think.
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Shara and Brony and blue are theliving testaments of what we
want our children to be.
Ultimately, we, I can speak formyself and my household.
My husband and I strive toensure that we are providing not
only a home, but an environment,an ecosystem, a world for our
children where they can thriveand not even know survival.
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But we have to also be mindfulof.
As parents and as children fromour own situations, what does
success actually mean to you?
Because the conversationhappening around nepotism and
them being handed something asif they haven't displayed an
effort of work and commitment totheir disciplines.
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It is so dismissive.
And I just don't, I'm trying tounderstand why do we, in the
black community, feel like inorder to.
Attain success struggle must beassociated.
Right?
So I asked the question, whatdoes success means to us in the
black community when we thinkingabout parenthood?
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Because if you ask me, theparents of Shado and Bar James
have done well, right?
And Blue Ivy, they've done well,not only again to raise what
seemingly are good human beings,right?
But also provide them withopportunities and spaces in
which they desire to exist with.
Out the need of struggle.
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So I wanted to pose thatquestion.
I stick a pin and remind peoplethat I don't understand.
When you have Pitney, do you notwant them to be happy?
Do you not want them to feelsafe and secure?
And if that is your ultimategold, why are we not rooting for
them?
Why?
Because I know for me, I'm like,yes.
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Did you see Blue Ivy come backon this most recent Cowboy
Carter tour and show the pe,show the people that she's
eating.
The girls up.
You hear me?
Eating the girls up, child one,two step is killing them and it
makes me so happy.
Not only is like a mom and awoman in the space, just because
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we've seen.
How Blue Ivy has matured andmastered the craft of dancing
and stage presence from thefirst time she hit the stage
alongside her mother.
Right?
But this is also the same childthat when Beyonce brought her to
the forefront and had Afro,people were like, comb that girl
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here.
So I, it makes me wonder what issuccess and happiness in our
black community If we arecritiquing things that we just
don't understand, is it okay tojust say, I don't understand
that I, you know, just again,creating space to have the
conversation we are stick up inand we a good talk about
nepotism, right?
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Is it hard for us in the blackcommunity to understand nepotism
because many of us haven'texperienced it.
Or is it hard for us to beaccepting of nepotism because we
haven't come to the place wherewe can then offer it?
Right.
Is it a mentality of.
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What is the right word?
Is it a mentality based ondeprecation or is it a mentality
based on scarcity?
Do we feel that only a handfulof people can create a space in
which their children can thrive?
Because as someone who works incorporate spaces, I have seen
nepotism.
Corporate spaces.
It's not only entertainment,right?
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And nepotism is not alwaysputting, you know, your child in
as a VP or as a manager.
But what it is is offering upthe opportunity for your child
to explore an industry or aspace or a, an.
A desire that they have in asafe environment that you've
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already vetted and validated.
Right?
That's all in my perspective,nepotism is It's providing
opportunity without all of thebureaucracy and red tape of the
traditional world.
So when I'm thinking of that andwhy we should stick a in and
why.
We have this perception when itcomes to entertainers and
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celebrities.
You haven't seen anyone in yourenvironment be put in a position
to thrive based on their familyand their friends.
I think if you question it thatway, it'll be a little bit
different.
Because I know for certain,especially in our Brooklyn
enough restaurant lounge, youknow, clothing stores, there are
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so many small businesses in NewYork City that are owned by
generations of families.
Right.
And when we think aboutgenerational.
Wealth.
We need to understand thatgenerational wealth has existed
in the black community for along, long time.
So when I hear the termgenerational curse breaker, you
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know, breaking generationalcurses, I understand that and I
do think there are things thatwe can leave behind, but, you
know, take the meat, leap thebones, but also acknowledge the
fact that nepotism has existedin our environment for a long
time.
So.
Why the negativity, why thebrony shouldn't be in the NBA.
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He not ready for the NBA.
Can you go one-on-one withBronny?
I know, I can't.
Like, can you go one-on-one withBrody?
Um, you know what I mean?
And just the conversations thatwere happening around Shado is
drafting and how.
He was, oh, he wasn't number onepick, but he did get picked
though.
He is in the pros though.
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Can you go up and down the fieldwith Shara?
I know I couldn't.
So I just think let's givepeople their flowers and their
credits for the things that theyhave dedicated themselves too.
And then also full hand clapsand cheers for the parents that
allowed them to do so in anenvironment that lets them
thrive.
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Because again.
What is successful parenting, ifnot for that.
All right, Stick a pin in eventsthese live events that are back
and in full swing.
I don't know if anybody noticed.
We are officially five yearsfrom COVID, and when I tell you
live events are back in fulleffect, them are with them.
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Good, good self.
I feel like everyone iscurrently touring.
Kendrick and csa.
Beyonce.
The ladies, I feel like the, theaunties of Soul, Stephanie
Mills, Patti LaBelle, everyoneis touring and I wanna encourage
everyone to get out there andsupport your favorite audience
that is out touring right now.
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In addition to these conferencesthat are happening across the
space, I had the opportunity togo to the Black Effect Podcast
Festival in Atlanta.
That was an amazing festival.
Um, they had amazing.
Speakers on stage as well asdifferent partners.
There was Nissan, there wasCoca-Cola and there was a food
truck festival.
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It was a lot going on in termsof the culture and I felt, I
felt the southern vibe while Iwas there, but I made me compare
to some of the festivals that'shere in New York as well.
We just had a food festival inBrooklyn hosted by Keith Lee
that was.
Crazy.
When I tell you the people cameout.
The people came out for the GoodEats and word on the street is
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that the food ran out.
But all in all, it was a goodexperience.
There was music, there wasvibes, and there was outfits.
Let me tell you, the people thatcome out with them, good, good,
good, good.
Clean outfits.
That's one thing I think weshould stick up in and talk
about.
What I have loved is, we havetruly.
Come outside.
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We're outside our outside fullforce, right?
In this season, because again,while being a few years out from
COVID, people are attendingthese festivals, but when I say
we putting that thing on every,the outfits is outfit, okay?
The fits is fitting and from thefestivals to the concerts, I
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just love this energy around.
I'm gonna present my best selffor this vibe and come out
strong, strong.
Speaking of, speaking ofconcerts, speaking of the Sure.
Them I had, I went to Vibescartels, I wanna say historical
return to Brooklyn Tour.
Me did De had the first show.
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Yeah.
Me and my sister Tamika went tohis first show.
Big Up to Tamika for sortingthat out and making sure we is
in the place.
But when I say it was amovement, the energy, other
players did mad.
The, it was jam packed, but itwas a good vibe.
It was like all of Brooklyn cameout.
And when I tell you we was intheir vibing, the DJ did a go on
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with himself, said they alreadynever.
Dorid and it makes, did I keepthe players on top?
And you could tell that vibesreally was super emotional
during the show.
At one point he came out, um,brought his mom out and just was
praising God for allowing him togo through his trials and
tribulations and still return tothe stage at that magnitude.
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And that to me was like a hugegame changer.
'cause ifm honest.
If man, keep it real.
We don't know podcast yet.
When my little sister first toldme about it, I was like, yes, my
love vibes.
But we sure, eh, alls granted,he has served his time, but you
know, you don't wanna reallypromote certain things and
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certain behavior.
And at a community.
So I totally, like, if I'mhonest, I'm one of those people
that like, you know, I live whatI say.
And so we had the wholeconversation about, but artists
are artists and I'm alwayschampioning that I can take the
art and leave the person and youknow what?
Little bit of both, but it wasdefinitely like, oh, we gonna
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see vibes.
Hmm.
Gonna see vibes.
Like, you know, it wasdefinitely one of those.
But I am so glad that I wentWhen I tell you the show did run
good, good.
And at one point he lost hisvoice.
And you could tell how likenerve wracking he was and he
said, listen, I know you guyspaid your money and you're here
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to see me, um, see me perform.
I'm gonna go drink water.
And when I tell you he drankwater, Busta came out.
Spice let's, let's stick up.
Pinta Bowl Spice.
I think spice does not get thecredit Spice deserves as an
entertainer on the stage.
Spice from Jamaica.
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Goes on that stage and work hertail off.
You hear me when I tell you,when spice hit the stage, it's
like you felt this wave oferuption in the Barclay Center
because Spice was giving ushits.
She was giving us moves.
She was giving us dance.
She did listen.
She was getting on with her.
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Self at that show.
You hear me?
So that show to me was anotherelectric moment Busta came out
that he had a few um, artistscome out on day one.
And ultimately the show wasamazing.
But going back to what I'msaying about, I love the fact
that we are outside and we notjust showing up at these
concerts, in these conferencesand in these spaces, we're
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showing up as our best self.
We making sure to put through,put that outfit on.
But I will say I wanna see usmore in these conference spaces
as well.
Right.
As we know, I work in technologyas a senior sales strategist as,
and I attend many.
TE Tech Con conferences as wellas marketing conferences and,
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um.
I wanna see more of us.
I wanna see more people of colorin these conferences because
when I'm in the building, inthese offices, y'all work there,
you work there.
So why aren't you coming out tothese spaces and having
discussions about your goals andaspirations, not only in your
career, but who you are as anindividual, right?
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So as I stick up in on concerts.
But just want with a wah vibeand think about also showing up
in conference spaces as well.
Go see the panel, talk to thepanelists, hear the discussions
that's happening with thethought leaders in our space
because it's important to knownot just where you are today,
but where you wanna go in thefuture.
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And I.
Think with both technology andmarketing and whatever industry
you're in.
Finance, right.
I attended a conference, um, ledby the Hope Organization.
John Hope Bryant's organizationjust to learn more about
financial literacy in ourcommunity.
I love John Hope Bryant.
I already, in my mind, I'm like,he's gonna be a partner of mine
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one day and, you know, speakinto existence.
But I just, I love hisbackground and I love how he's
not just a thought leader.
He's very strategic and veryexecution oriented.
I think everyone has the thing,has their thing, right?
That you're really, really goodat.
Some people are really good atnegotiating.
Some people are really good atwriting.
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I think John's very clear thathe is not only a thought leader,
but he's an executor, right?
He knows how to bring anideation to market and also.
Be mindful of the market.
Love John O.
Bryant.
So.
Sticking up in on making surethat we are not just attending
concerts and the food festivalsand all of those things, but we
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are also entering theseconference spaces, that is for
people of all different descentsin our community to attend these
conferences.
I wanna see you at the customersuccess conferences.
I wanna see you in these spaces.
Let's make time to upskillourselves by attending these
events, because we often thinkthat it's all about networking
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and.
Granted network.
And granted, networking is notfor everyone and it's not an
easy thing to do, but in orderfor you to even learn, you need
to be in the space, right?
So come on out to these events,and I will try my best on my
socials to post when theseevents are happening.
I believe New York Tech Week iscoming up next week, and then
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it's followed by Atlanta TechWeek, and then there's cans.
There's a lot of thingshappening and not all things.
You do not need to book travelto attend all of these things,
but I want you to be active inyour local community and the
spaces and spaces you occupy.
Do a Google search just like howwe will Google search, where to
find an outfit or when our newartist is coming to town.
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Just do a Google search on aconference based on your
interest coming up in yourneighborhood.
Alright, let's do it.
Listen.
Next, let's stick a pin in Godguts and Google docs, right?
Because I wanna stick a pin onpurpose and the path towards the
goal and your dreams in life.
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I'm currently going through atransition in corporate because
I made a decision to pursue.
The road less traveled.
Right.
Um, and I'm intentionally beingvery vague because I wanna honor
the brands that I am workingwith that allowed me to feel
confident and comfortablethrough this transition.
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But I wanted to speak to theintentionality around pursuing a
dream and knowing that, likethey say, man, plan on God
laugh, but also being willing todo the work right.
And I'm very much one of thosepeople that I don't do nothing
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at 10%.
And for those who didn'tunderstand my.
My accent, my patois, that meansI don't know how to do anything
at 80%, 20%.
I know how everything I do, I doit at 110%.
I am very type A.
I'm very organized in that way.
I wanted to talk about theimportance of following your gut
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and your intuition during theseseasons of transition.
Right.
I have found myself time andtime again over the course of
the last few weeks, seeing thesedifferent signs and poi, putting
in position differentopportunities for me to be very
clear that this is the path thatI need to be on and this is
where my focus needs to be.
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And.
While it's scary, right?
There's this gut feeling that,yeah, I dismiss it.
God.
God said this, wrote Hawaiianfor reach and this is where I
want you to go.
I there still requires somelevel of planning, right?
Pull out the Google docs and thesheets and ensure that the
responsibilities that we have toour, to my life, right?
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The responsibility I have to mylife and also that you have to,
your life is not.
Hindered in any way, but alsoit's supportive, right?
It's important to create anecosystem that.
Is aligned with who you want tobe in this world and don't not
tech check, you know, then welike, don't hold back.
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Don't, don't allow people forsmile up your things.
Don't allow somebody's view ofwho you are and your
capabilities to dictate how youmove forward in your life.
This is your life.
Uh, you are seeing this, and ifyou don't have.
The vision and the forthright tosay, my gut and how I feel is
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right, then know that you may besusceptive to fall for anything,
right?
My mother used to say, if, ifyou're not stand for nothing,
you fall for everything and you,so you have to know what you
stand on, and I know exactlywhat I stand on.
So, as we wrap up this episodeof Sticker Pain, I just wanna
remind you, sir.
You are who you say you are.
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You are who you show up in thisworld as.
And for me, the best form ofservice is how we treat each
other in every space we occupy.
Nobody.
Nobody.
Yeah.
Then we are there.
So on this episode of how do YouDivine, I really and truly.
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Want us to stick up in of yourlife and take inventory on who
you are today and who you wannabe tomorrow, where you are
today.
Do you like it?
What do you, what makes you feeluncomfortable?
What makes you feel, what makesyou feel like, is this a good
use of my time?
Right.
Because one thing, resourceswill come and go.
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Resources being money homes,them things will come and go.
You can bill, you can rebuild.
And I'm talking from somebodywho bill from nothing.
Yeah.
No, no, no, no.
None.
Those things can come and gobecause once you are a
go-getter, money did definitelymake right, but.
Time is important, right?
So are you committing your timeto something that is aligned
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with the goals and aspirationsyou have for your life?
Take an audit.
We all have the 1 24 hours, andsome of us have less than others
because we sleep enough, right?
Rest is not a reward, it's anecessity.
So definitely get your rest,but.
When you are up and about andyou're doing your thing, are you
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actively engaging in the actionsthat will.
Produce what you want in thisworld, right?
And I am being so intentionalabout that in this season that
every, every time spent is timealigned with my goals and where
I wanna be in this world, andalso with my family.
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Let's talk about what's going onon tv.
I am typically not a televisionperson.
I love scripted tv.
At one point I loved reality tv.
Um, I wanna say years ago whenReal Housewives Atlanta was Real
Housewives of Atlanta.
Now I think they all have thesame premise of.
Like who said what about who?
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And it just, no, it is just, itis not given what it used to
give for me.
So I just, I'm over reality tv.
But tap, feel free to tap me ifit start getting good.
Now, I, I tapped into the RealHousewives of Atlanta's new
revamp for an episode.
And that one episode was nice,but.
Then the whole Kenya picturesituation happened and I was
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like, all right, we too old forthat.
'cause that too much.
And I tapped right back out.
But what I do love is scriptedtv.
Love me some scripted tv whenI'm watching tv.
A show that has had my householdin an uproar is forever.
So if you're new here, I have a16-year-old and 12-year-old
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daughters, Maya and Layla, and Imarried to my husband.
Um, for about 15 years now.
Don't tell him that I paused onthat, but we've been together
since we were teenagers.
So watching the show forever wasso interesting.
I started to watch it alone andthen looped him into the two,
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watching it and catching up withme and his reaction.
I have some reaction videos onmy YouTube ika.
Nicki, was.
Hysterical because he could not,he's such a girl dad that he
could not view the first fewepisodes as Justin, you know, he
couldn't root for Justin at allthe entire time.
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He's defending Keisha wonderingwhy Keisha's in this situation.
Um, like it was just so, it wasbeautifully, it was so cute to
see him.
Ride for Keisha and feel like,listen, Keisha, don't, you don't
have to take this.
That boy did what?
Call the police.
It was hysterical.
But one thing I did wanna sticka pin and let's take a pause and
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talk about is how scripted TV ismore and more starting to
reflect our stories that we arefamiliar with.
So I'm just, I'm just sograteful for the creatives that
are putting these scripts andthese shows together and
bringing them to Netflix, andnot just streaming services, but
also on broadcast tv.
I feel like there is a niceswing of content that is being
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created.
Like I just watched the G 20with Viola Davis and listen, li.
If there is an actress thatmakes me go, whoa.
It is Viola Davis.
She deserves all the flowers andall the things.
Okay.
There's a whole list of them andy'all don't want'em right now,
but I just wanted to stick a pinand remind us that.
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While we are on social media andwe have become very accustomed
to engaging in a little miniphone, right?
Sometimes it's important todetach from the device to start
to wean us back to our normalcy.
I.
I've noticed that again, we arefive years out from COVID and we
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are slowly starting to rebuildwhat normalcy looked like.
Not only in this day and age oftechnology, but coming back from
the isolation that stemmed fromCOVID.
Right.
And I want us to encourageeveryone to Yes, let's watch a
good scripted show.
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'cause there is good scripted TVout here.
You know, they are producinggood things and in order to
properly and accurately watchgood scripted tv, we have to put
our phones across the room sothat we can lock in and watch a
good show.
I'm gonna put a list of niceshows for you to watch in this
episode.
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G 20 was great.
Lioness was amazing.
Oh my gosh.
There is a show on Apple Call.
My friends and neighbors about agentleman who lost his job.
He was an investment banker andessentially started robbing his
friends and neighbors.
Great, great, great, great,great show.
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Recommend that.
Still watching Will Trent stillmy show?
It's just some great scripted TVout there, so I want us to stick
a pin and in and indulge in thecreativity that is happening on
the big screen.
I'm gonna put a list of niceshows for you to watch in this
episode.
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Last but not least on thisepisode of Stick A Pin, I feel
like the elephant in the roomwhen we talk about pop culture
and politics, which neither oneis two items that I'd like to
explore, but when we talkpolitics or pop culture, I feel
like there is a trial going onthat.
(28:21):
Unsubscribe me.
How do I unsubscribe to thisDiddy trial?
I just wanna unsubscribe.
Take me out the group chat.
Like I don't, I think let.
The people let the, I, I don'teven wanna say let the system
handle it, because we all knowsystem is not really as accurate
(28:42):
as it needs to be.
But I also do not want daily orweekly updates of what's
happening.
In the darkness because so muchof what has come from that Diddy
trial to me is just filled withdarkness and hurt.
Right?
And it just shows you thatevery, like, like my granny used
to say, not everything that Glitdoes is gold.
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Sometimes things were shining meis hollow and um.
Yeah.
So yeah, take me out the groupchat and instinct a pin.
I just want put it in thecomments what thing in pop
culture or what conversationsthat are happening, do you wanna
be taking out the group chat?
Like put it in the comments Iwanna hear.
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What do we wanna be taken outtathe group chat.
I wanna be taken outta the groupchat for the Diddy trial.
I wanna be taken out of thegroup chat for whatever was
happening with Remy Ma and allcelebrity relationship.
Discord arguments.
Take me out the group chat.
I wasn't here for it, for Remy.
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I ain't here.
I'm, I'm not here for it, forCardi.
Listen, keep that behind closeddoors.
Take me out the group chat forany, any relationship that is,
is, is, is breaking apart and isno longer in a positive place.
And you guys don't want to like,take us, take me out the group
chat.
I don't wanna be a part of thatgroup chat.
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I don't wanna be a part of thegroup chat in regards to what
else, what else don't I wanna bea part of the group chat for.
Oh my gosh.
When people say global warmingis not a real thing, take me out
the group chat, take me out.
I wanna be taken off the list.
It is just like, you know, whenyou're trying to appropriately,
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well, I think all my algorithmsat this point on all my social
media platforms is, is startingto, they're starting to learn
and know me because I'm quick tohit that three dots.
Not interested, please notinterested.
Stand.
I, you know what's, uh,something I actually, I wanna
still be in a group chat for,but I'm not participating is the
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line dances.
Absolutely.
It's the line dances.
Listen with em.
Fans that, rah, I, I wanna.
I wanna, what?
I want to, but I can't.
I can't, I can't.
I feel like my, my dancing, uh,I used to dance in high school
(31:12):
and in college, and that is hiphop and contemporary dance.
'cause you know, nowadays yousay that.
People mind go other places, butthe line dances.
I don't know why.
I just, my, I'm a me's aCaribbean girl, you know, so my
body just wanna roll.
I just want everything, need alittle wine in eye.
So like I just, although thelittle wap wh whp is a one
(31:35):
little hip thing, I'm just like.
I move to the left and that's abody roll.
I move to the right, it's a bodyroll.
So I just line dances has neverbeen by jam.
So I wanna be in the group chatjust to hear while Guan, right,
because the Tamia a line dance.
That's my song.
And when I tell you I could doit, maybe, I know I probably
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can't do it.
Like I really can't do it.
But I wanna be in the groupchat, but I don't wanna be a
participant.
Okay?
So keep me in the group chat.
For the line dances.
Keep me out the group chat forthe other stuff.
This has been another episode ofStick up Pin.
I'll come and because qualityover quantity people, the pace
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that we trying to maintain isimportant, right?
The pace of peace, as I call itthank you guys so much for
watching.
Leave in the comments some wordsand conversations that you would
like us to explore and whoshould be our next guest on the
show.
As the show evolves, I'd like tostart interviewing more notable
individuals so that weunderstand that how we define.
(32:46):
Our lives is more important thanwhat we define our lives by.
So thank you so much for joiningthis conversation.
And this is Sonika.
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I also have some other campaignscoming out with the podcast that
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You know, who is that girl?
Thank you so much for watchingthis episode of how Do You
Divine Stick Up in.
until next time, stay loud, stayrooted, stay real.
And be sure to remember to makespace to be.
Well see you on the next one.
Welcome back to this episode ofHow Do You Divine?
And today we are gonna stick upin, and what does that even
mean?
Stay tuned.
So every few episodes I take alittle reflection, I pause so
that we discuss what we've seenthus far.
And if you're from theCaribbean, you know what stick
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up in means.
And in this episode, I speakmore in my two dialects as a
Jamaican.
To teach you what it means tostick up in hold, a discussion,
and pause right there.
Let's think through what we'veseen, not only on the podcast,
but in our communities and inour space.
No guest, there is nointerviews, just me.
Let's stick up in.
Every few episodes I take alittle time to reflect, to run
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through the movements and theculture and give y'all a real
raw tick from from the headlinesto the heart.
It's a more laid back, a littlemore fun and a whole lot of
truth.
To stick up in means, say, come.
And sit down on the front porchand talk about what the podcast
has been thus far.
Some things that we've seen inour community that we can unpack
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and really just take a pausebecause in this day of digital
age, information comes and goesreally quickly and often we just
are so reactive to it that wehold on to that moment of that
emotion, right?
We saw this in the headlines andthat in the headlines, and it's
just ultimately.
Always shocking us withinformation that wouldn't even
(01:27):
say what happened, how thatlook.
So in this episode, let's stickup in.
Welcome to everyone who is newto the podcast.
And let's first discuss thepodcast thus far.
We're in a new rhythm and we'rein a new rhyme.
The different stages, thedifferent sets.
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My commitment is to ensure thatwe have content for the podcast
on a regular basis.
We started this season trying tocommit to weekly episodes and
quickly learn enough work.
That's enough.
And not just that it's a lot ofwork.
Honestly, from a schedulingperspective, it has become quite
difficult to ensure the qualityof the podcast.
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So as of this episode, we havemoved to every other Wednesday.
Audio versions will be availableon all podcast platforms, and
the videos will be availablethat.
Friday.
So audio every other Wednesday,and video on Fridays that's the
pace that we're trying tomaintain, this isn't just
content, it's a conversationwith purpose.
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So subscribe, tell a friend for,tell a friend, tap and sneak
over there.
Do something good.
And we are all our vibe.
Our first topic is today is whatdoes success mean in the black
community?
This question came to mind whenI saw so many dis different
conversations happening aroundthe trajectory of Shado Sanders,
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as well as Brony James and BlueIvy, right?
These are kids of well-knownathletes, celebrities,
entertainers.
These children were raised inwhat I feel to be a great
environment we don't know theirhouseholds, so we can only speak
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for to what we know.
But ultimately I wanted to havethis discussion about what does
success mean in terms of parent,in terms of parenting to you.
You don't have to need to be aparent in order to answer that
question.
'cause we've all been children,right?
What does success look like toyou?
Because for me, I think.
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Shara and Brony and blue are theliving testaments of what we
want our children to be.
Ultimately, we, I can speak formyself and my household.
My husband and I strive toensure that we are providing not
only a home, but an environment,an ecosystem, a world for our
children where they can thriveand not even know survival.
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But we have to also be mindfulof.
As parents and as children fromour own situations, what does
success actually mean to you?
Because the conversationhappening around nepotism and
them being handed something asif they haven't displayed an
effort of work and commitment totheir disciplines.
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It is so dismissive.
And I just don't, I'm trying tounderstand why do we, in the
black community, feel like inorder to.
Attain success struggle must beassociated.
Right?
So I asked the question, whatdoes success means to us in the
black community when we thinkingabout parenthood?
(04:45):
Because if you ask me, theparents of Shado and Bar James
have done well, right?
And Blue Ivy, they've done well,not only again to raise what
seemingly are good human beings,right?
But also provide them withopportunities and spaces in
which they desire to exist with.
Out the need of struggle.
(05:05):
So I wanted to pose thatquestion.
I stick a pin and remind peoplethat I don't understand.
When you have Pitney, do you notwant them to be happy?
Do you not want them to feelsafe and secure?
And if that is your ultimategold, why are we not rooting for
them?
Why?
Because I know for me, I'm like,yes.
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Did you see Blue Ivy come backon this most recent Cowboy
Carter tour and show the pe,show the people that she's
eating.
The girls up.
You hear me?
Eating the girls up, child one,two step is killing them and it
makes me so happy.
Not only is like a mom and awoman in the space, just because
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we've seen.
How Blue Ivy has matured andmastered the craft of dancing
and stage presence from thefirst time she hit the stage
alongside her mother.
Right?
But this is also the same childthat when Beyonce brought her to
the forefront and had Afro,people were like, comb that girl
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here.
So I, it makes me wonder what issuccess and happiness in our
black community If we arecritiquing things that we just
don't understand, is it okay tojust say, I don't understand
that I, you know, just again,creating space to have the
conversation we are stick up inand we a good talk about
nepotism, right?
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Is it hard for us in the blackcommunity to understand nepotism
because many of us haven'texperienced it.
Or is it hard for us to beaccepting of nepotism because we
haven't come to the place wherewe can then offer it?
Right.
Is it a mentality of.
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What is the right word?
Is it a mentality based ondeprecation or is it a mentality
based on scarcity?
Do we feel that only a handfulof people can create a space in
which their children can thrive?
Because as someone who works incorporate spaces, I have seen
nepotism.
Corporate spaces.
It's not only entertainment,right?
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And nepotism is not alwaysputting, you know, your child in
as a VP or as a manager.
But what it is is offering upthe opportunity for your child
to explore an industry or aspace or a, an.
A desire that they have in asafe environment that you've
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already vetted and validated.
Right?
That's all in my perspective,nepotism is It's providing
opportunity without all of thebureaucracy and red tape of the
traditional world.
So when I'm thinking of that andwhy we should stick a in and
why.
We have this perception when itcomes to entertainers and
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celebrities.
You haven't seen anyone in yourenvironment be put in a position
to thrive based on their familyand their friends.
I think if you question it thatway, it'll be a little bit
different.
Because I know for certain,especially in our Brooklyn
enough restaurant lounge, youknow, clothing stores, there are
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so many small businesses in NewYork City that are owned by
generations of families.
Right.
And when we think aboutgenerational.
Wealth.
We need to understand thatgenerational wealth has existed
in the black community for along, long time.
So when I hear the termgenerational curse breaker, you
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know, breaking generationalcurses, I understand that and I
do think there are things thatwe can leave behind, but, you
know, take the meat, leap thebones, but also acknowledge the
fact that nepotism has existedin our environment for a long
time.
So.
Why the negativity, why thebrony shouldn't be in the NBA.
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He not ready for the NBA.
Can you go one-on-one withBronny?
I know, I can't.
Like, can you go one-on-one withBrody?
Um, you know what I mean?
And just the conversations thatwere happening around Shado is
drafting and how.
He was, oh, he wasn't number onepick, but he did get picked
though.
He is in the pros though.
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Can you go up and down the fieldwith Shara?
I know I couldn't.
So I just think let's givepeople their flowers and their
credits for the things that theyhave dedicated themselves too.
And then also full hand clapsand cheers for the parents that
allowed them to do so in anenvironment that lets them
thrive.
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Because again.
What is successful parenting, ifnot for that.
All right, Stick a pin in eventsthese live events that are back
and in full swing.
I don't know if anybody noticed.
We are officially five yearsfrom COVID, and when I tell you
live events are back in fulleffect, them are with them.
(10:06):
Good, good self.
I feel like everyone iscurrently touring.
Kendrick and csa.
Beyonce.
The ladies, I feel like the, theaunties of Soul, Stephanie
Mills, Patti LaBelle, everyoneis touring and I wanna encourage
everyone to get out there andsupport your favorite audience
that is out touring right now.
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In addition to these conferencesthat are happening across the
space, I had the opportunity togo to the Black Effect Podcast
Festival in Atlanta.
That was an amazing festival.
Um, they had amazing.
Speakers on stage as well asdifferent partners.
There was Nissan, there wasCoca-Cola and there was a food
truck festival.
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It was a lot going on in termsof the culture and I felt, I
felt the southern vibe while Iwas there, but I made me compare
to some of the festivals that'shere in New York as well.
We just had a food festival inBrooklyn hosted by Keith Lee
that was.
Crazy.
When I tell you the people cameout.
The people came out for the GoodEats and word on the street is
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that the food ran out.
But all in all, it was a goodexperience.
There was music, there wasvibes, and there was outfits.
Let me tell you, the people thatcome out with them, good, good,
good, good.
Clean outfits.
That's one thing I think weshould stick up in and talk
about.
What I have loved is, we havetruly.
Come outside.
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We're outside our outside fullforce, right?
In this season, because again,while being a few years out from
COVID, people are attendingthese festivals, but when I say
we putting that thing on every,the outfits is outfit, okay?
The fits is fitting and from thefestivals to the concerts, I
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just love this energy around.
I'm gonna present my best selffor this vibe and come out
strong, strong.
Speaking of, speaking ofconcerts, speaking of the Sure.
Them I had, I went to Vibescartels, I wanna say historical
return to Brooklyn Tour.
Me did De had the first show.
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Yeah.
Me and my sister Tamika went tohis first show.
Big Up to Tamika for sortingthat out and making sure we is
in the place.
But when I say it was amovement, the energy, other
players did mad.
The, it was jam packed, but itwas a good vibe.
It was like all of Brooklyn cameout.
And when I tell you we was intheir vibing, the DJ did a go on
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with himself, said they alreadynever.
Dorid and it makes, did I keepthe players on top?
And you could tell that vibesreally was super emotional
during the show.
At one point he came out, um,brought his mom out and just was
praising God for allowing him togo through his trials and
tribulations and still return tothe stage at that magnitude.
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And that to me was like a hugegame changer.
'cause ifm honest.
If man, keep it real.
We don't know podcast yet.
When my little sister first toldme about it, I was like, yes, my
love vibes.
But we sure, eh, alls granted,he has served his time, but you
know, you don't wanna reallypromote certain things and
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certain behavior.
And at a community.
So I totally, like, if I'mhonest, I'm one of those people
that like, you know, I live whatI say.
And so we had the wholeconversation about, but artists
are artists and I'm alwayschampioning that I can take the
art and leave the person and youknow what?
Little bit of both, but it wasdefinitely like, oh, we gonna
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see vibes.
Hmm.
Gonna see vibes.
Like, you know, it wasdefinitely one of those.
But I am so glad that I wentWhen I tell you the show did run
good, good.
And at one point he lost hisvoice.
And you could tell how likenerve wracking he was and he
said, listen, I know you guyspaid your money and you're here
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to see me, um, see me perform.
I'm gonna go drink water.
And when I tell you he drankwater, Busta came out.
Spice let's, let's stick up.
Pinta Bowl Spice.
I think spice does not get thecredit Spice deserves as an
entertainer on the stage.
Spice from Jamaica.
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Goes on that stage and work hertail off.
You hear me when I tell you,when spice hit the stage, it's
like you felt this wave oferuption in the Barclay Center
because Spice was giving ushits.
She was giving us moves.
She was giving us dance.
She did listen.
She was getting on with her.
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Self at that show.
You hear me?
So that show to me was anotherelectric moment Busta came out
that he had a few um, artistscome out on day one.
And ultimately the show wasamazing.
But going back to what I'msaying about, I love the fact
that we are outside and we notjust showing up at these
concerts, in these conferencesand in these spaces, we're
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showing up as our best self.
We making sure to put through,put that outfit on.
But I will say I wanna see usmore in these conference spaces
as well.
Right.
As we know, I work in technologyas a senior sales strategist as,
and I attend many.
TE Tech Con conferences as wellas marketing conferences and,
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um.
I wanna see more of us.
I wanna see more people of colorin these conferences because
when I'm in the building, inthese offices, y'all work there,
you work there.
So why aren't you coming out tothese spaces and having
discussions about your goals andaspirations, not only in your
career, but who you are as anindividual, right?
(15:49):
So as I stick up in on concerts.
But just want with a wah vibeand think about also showing up
in conference spaces as well.
Go see the panel, talk to thepanelists, hear the discussions
that's happening with thethought leaders in our space
because it's important to knownot just where you are today,
but where you wanna go in thefuture.
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And I.
Think with both technology andmarketing and whatever industry
you're in.
Finance, right.
I attended a conference, um, ledby the Hope Organization.
John Hope Bryant's organizationjust to learn more about
financial literacy in ourcommunity.
I love John Hope Bryant.
I already, in my mind, I'm like,he's gonna be a partner of mine
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one day and, you know, speakinto existence.
But I just, I love hisbackground and I love how he's
not just a thought leader.
He's very strategic and veryexecution oriented.
I think everyone has the thing,has their thing, right?
That you're really, really goodat.
Some people are really good atnegotiating.
Some people are really good atwriting.
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I think John's very clear thathe is not only a thought leader,
but he's an executor, right?
He knows how to bring anideation to market and also.
Be mindful of the market.
Love John O.
Bryant.
So.
Sticking up in on making surethat we are not just attending
concerts and the food festivalsand all of those things, but we
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are also entering theseconference spaces, that is for
people of all different descentsin our community to attend these
conferences.
I wanna see you at the customersuccess conferences.
I wanna see you in these spaces.
Let's make time to upskillourselves by attending these
events, because we often thinkthat it's all about networking
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and.
Granted network.
And granted, networking is notfor everyone and it's not an
easy thing to do, but in orderfor you to even learn, you need
to be in the space, right?
So come on out to these events,and I will try my best on my
socials to post when theseevents are happening.
I believe New York Tech Week iscoming up next week, and then
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it's followed by Atlanta TechWeek, and then there's cans.
There's a lot of thingshappening and not all things.
You do not need to book travelto attend all of these things,
but I want you to be active inyour local community and the
spaces and spaces you occupy.
Do a Google search just like howwe will Google search, where to
find an outfit or when our newartist is coming to town.
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Just do a Google search on aconference based on your
interest coming up in yourneighborhood.
Alright, let's do it.
Listen.
Next, let's stick a pin in Godguts and Google docs, right?
Because I wanna stick a pin onpurpose and the path towards the
goal and your dreams in life.
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I'm currently going through atransition in corporate because
I made a decision to pursue.
The road less traveled.
Right.
Um, and I'm intentionally beingvery vague because I wanna honor
the brands that I am workingwith that allowed me to feel
confident and comfortablethrough this transition.
(19:03):
But I wanted to speak to theintentionality around pursuing a
dream and knowing that, likethey say, man, plan on God
laugh, but also being willing todo the work right.
And I'm very much one of thosepeople that I don't do nothing
(19:23):
at 10%.
And for those who didn'tunderstand my.
My accent, my patois, that meansI don't know how to do anything
at 80%, 20%.
I know how everything I do, I doit at 110%.
I am very type A.
I'm very organized in that way.
I wanted to talk about theimportance of following your gut
(19:45):
and your intuition during theseseasons of transition.
Right.
I have found myself time andtime again over the course of
the last few weeks, seeing thesedifferent signs and poi, putting
in position differentopportunities for me to be very
clear that this is the path thatI need to be on and this is
where my focus needs to be.
(20:06):
And.
While it's scary, right?
There's this gut feeling that,yeah, I dismiss it.
God.
God said this, wrote Hawaiianfor reach and this is where I
want you to go.
I there still requires somelevel of planning, right?
Pull out the Google docs and thesheets and ensure that the
responsibilities that we have toour, to my life, right?
(20:30):
The responsibility I have to mylife and also that you have to,
your life is not.
Hindered in any way, but alsoit's supportive, right?
It's important to create anecosystem that.
Is aligned with who you want tobe in this world and don't not
tech check, you know, then welike, don't hold back.
(20:53):
Don't, don't allow people forsmile up your things.
Don't allow somebody's view ofwho you are and your
capabilities to dictate how youmove forward in your life.
This is your life.
Uh, you are seeing this, and ifyou don't have.
The vision and the forthright tosay, my gut and how I feel is
(21:17):
right, then know that you may besusceptive to fall for anything,
right?
My mother used to say, if, ifyou're not stand for nothing,
you fall for everything and you,so you have to know what you
stand on, and I know exactlywhat I stand on.
So, as we wrap up this episodeof Sticker Pain, I just wanna
remind you, sir.
You are who you say you are.
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You are who you show up in thisworld as.
And for me, the best form ofservice is how we treat each
other in every space we occupy.
Nobody.
Nobody.
Yeah.
Then we are there.
So on this episode of how do YouDivine, I really and truly.
(21:59):
Want us to stick up in of yourlife and take inventory on who
you are today and who you wannabe tomorrow, where you are
today.
Do you like it?
What do you, what makes you feeluncomfortable?
What makes you feel, what makesyou feel like, is this a good
use of my time?
Right.
Because one thing, resourceswill come and go.
(22:20):
Resources being money homes,them things will come and go.
You can bill, you can rebuild.
And I'm talking from somebodywho bill from nothing.
Yeah.
No, no, no, no.
None.
Those things can come and gobecause once you are a
go-getter, money did definitelymake right, but.
Time is important, right?
So are you committing your timeto something that is aligned
(22:44):
with the goals and aspirationsyou have for your life?
Take an audit.
We all have the 1 24 hours, andsome of us have less than others
because we sleep enough, right?
Rest is not a reward, it's anecessity.
So definitely get your rest,but.
When you are up and about andyou're doing your thing, are you
(23:04):
actively engaging in the actionsthat will.
Produce what you want in thisworld, right?
And I am being so intentionalabout that in this season that
every, every time spent is timealigned with my goals and where
I wanna be in this world, andalso with my family.
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Let's talk about what's going onon tv.
I am typically not a televisionperson.
I love scripted tv.
At one point I loved reality tv.
Um, I wanna say years ago whenReal Housewives Atlanta was Real
Housewives of Atlanta.
Now I think they all have thesame premise of.
Like who said what about who?
(23:46):
And it just, no, it is just, itis not given what it used to
give for me.
So I just, I'm over reality tv.
But tap, feel free to tap me ifit start getting good.
Now, I, I tapped into the RealHousewives of Atlanta's new
revamp for an episode.
And that one episode was nice,but.
Then the whole Kenya picturesituation happened and I was
(24:08):
like, all right, we too old forthat.
'cause that too much.
And I tapped right back out.
But what I do love is scriptedtv.
Love me some scripted tv whenI'm watching tv.
A show that has had my householdin an uproar is forever.
So if you're new here, I have a16-year-old and 12-year-old
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daughters, Maya and Layla, and Imarried to my husband.
Um, for about 15 years now.
Don't tell him that I paused onthat, but we've been together
since we were teenagers.
So watching the show forever wasso interesting.
I started to watch it alone andthen looped him into the two,
(24:50):
watching it and catching up withme and his reaction.
I have some reaction videos onmy YouTube ika.
Nicki, was.
Hysterical because he could not,he's such a girl dad that he
could not view the first fewepisodes as Justin, you know, he
couldn't root for Justin at allthe entire time.
(25:12):
He's defending Keisha wonderingwhy Keisha's in this situation.
Um, like it was just so, it wasbeautifully, it was so cute to
see him.
Ride for Keisha and feel like,listen, Keisha, don't, you don't
have to take this.
That boy did what?
Call the police.
It was hysterical.
But one thing I did wanna sticka pin and let's take a pause and
(25:33):
talk about is how scripted TV ismore and more starting to
reflect our stories that we arefamiliar with.
So I'm just, I'm just sograteful for the creatives that
are putting these scripts andthese shows together and
bringing them to Netflix, andnot just streaming services, but
also on broadcast tv.
I feel like there is a niceswing of content that is being
(25:55):
created.
Like I just watched the G 20with Viola Davis and listen, li.
If there is an actress thatmakes me go, whoa.
It is Viola Davis.
She deserves all the flowers andall the things.
Okay.
There's a whole list of them andy'all don't want'em right now,
but I just wanted to stick a pinand remind us that.
(26:17):
While we are on social media andwe have become very accustomed
to engaging in a little miniphone, right?
Sometimes it's important todetach from the device to start
to wean us back to our normalcy.
I.
I've noticed that again, we arefive years out from COVID and we
(26:38):
are slowly starting to rebuildwhat normalcy looked like.
Not only in this day and age oftechnology, but coming back from
the isolation that stemmed fromCOVID.
Right.
And I want us to encourageeveryone to Yes, let's watch a
good scripted show.
(26:59):
'cause there is good scripted TVout here.
You know, they are producinggood things and in order to
properly and accurately watchgood scripted tv, we have to put
our phones across the room sothat we can lock in and watch a
good show.
I'm gonna put a list of niceshows for you to watch in this
episode.
(27:19):
G 20 was great.
Lioness was amazing.
Oh my gosh.
There is a show on Apple Call.
My friends and neighbors about agentleman who lost his job.
He was an investment banker andessentially started robbing his
friends and neighbors.
Great, great, great, great,great show.
(27:41):
Recommend that.
Still watching Will Trent stillmy show?
It's just some great scripted TVout there, so I want us to stick
a pin and in and indulge in thecreativity that is happening on
the big screen.
I'm gonna put a list of niceshows for you to watch in this
episode.
(28:01):
Last but not least on thisepisode of Stick A Pin, I feel
like the elephant in the roomwhen we talk about pop culture
and politics, which neither oneis two items that I'd like to
explore, but when we talkpolitics or pop culture, I feel
like there is a trial going onthat.
(28:21):
Unsubscribe me.
How do I unsubscribe to thisDiddy trial?
I just wanna unsubscribe.
Take me out the group chat.
Like I don't, I think let.
The people let the, I, I don'teven wanna say let the system
handle it, because we all knowsystem is not really as accurate
(28:42):
as it needs to be.
But I also do not want daily orweekly updates of what's
happening.
In the darkness because so muchof what has come from that Diddy
trial to me is just filled withdarkness and hurt.
Right?
And it just shows you thatevery, like, like my granny used
to say, not everything that Glitdoes is gold.
(29:03):
Sometimes things were shining meis hollow and um.
Yeah.
So yeah, take me out the groupchat and instinct a pin.
I just want put it in thecomments what thing in pop
culture or what conversationsthat are happening, do you wanna
be taking out the group chat?
Like put it in the comments Iwanna hear.
(29:25):
What do we wanna be taken outtathe group chat.
I wanna be taken outta the groupchat for the Diddy trial.
I wanna be taken out of thegroup chat for whatever was
happening with Remy Ma and allcelebrity relationship.
Discord arguments.
Take me out the group chat.
I wasn't here for it, for Remy.
(29:46):
I ain't here.
I'm, I'm not here for it, forCardi.
Listen, keep that behind closeddoors.
Take me out the group chat forany, any relationship that is,
is, is, is breaking apart and isno longer in a positive place.
And you guys don't want to like,take us, take me out the group
chat.
I don't wanna be a part of thatgroup chat.
(30:07):
I don't wanna be a part of thegroup chat in regards to what
else, what else don't I wanna bea part of the group chat for.
Oh my gosh.
When people say global warmingis not a real thing, take me out
the group chat, take me out.
I wanna be taken off the list.
It is just like, you know, whenyou're trying to appropriately,
(30:29):
well, I think all my algorithmsat this point on all my social
media platforms is, is startingto, they're starting to learn
and know me because I'm quick tohit that three dots.
Not interested, please notinterested.
Stand.
I, you know what's, uh,something I actually, I wanna
still be in a group chat for,but I'm not participating is the
(30:50):
line dances.
Absolutely.
It's the line dances.
Listen with em.
Fans that, rah, I, I wanna.
I wanna, what?
I want to, but I can't.
I can't, I can't.
I feel like my, my dancing, uh,I used to dance in high school
(31:12):
and in college, and that is hiphop and contemporary dance.
'cause you know, nowadays yousay that.
People mind go other places, butthe line dances.
I don't know why.
I just, my, I'm a me's aCaribbean girl, you know, so my
body just wanna roll.
I just want everything, need alittle wine in eye.
So like I just, although thelittle wap wh whp is a one
(31:35):
little hip thing, I'm just like.
I move to the left and that's abody roll.
I move to the right, it's a bodyroll.
So I just line dances has neverbeen by jam.
So I wanna be in the group chatjust to hear while Guan, right,
because the Tamia a line dance.
That's my song.
And when I tell you I could doit, maybe, I know I probably
(31:57):
can't do it.
Like I really can't do it.
But I wanna be in the groupchat, but I don't wanna be a
participant.
Okay?
So keep me in the group chat.
For the line dances.
Keep me out the group chat forthe other stuff.
This has been another episode ofStick up Pin.
I'll come and because qualityover quantity people, the pace
(32:20):
that we trying to maintain isimportant, right?
The pace of peace, as I call itthank you guys so much for
watching.
Leave in the comments some wordsand conversations that you would
like us to explore and whoshould be our next guest on the
show.
As the show evolves, I'd like tostart interviewing more notable
individuals so that weunderstand that how we define.
(32:46):
Our lives is more important thanwhat we define our lives by.
So thank you so much for joiningthis conversation.
And this is Sonika.
How do you divine Stick up in.
(33:06):
So feel free to follow me on allsocial platforms.
That is on Instagram, YouTube,ika.
Nikki is my personal, handle andthe podcast, how do you divine?
We are gonna continue to, um,we're, I'm gonna continue to
drop clips.
I also have some other campaignscoming out with the podcast that
(33:27):
I'm super excited about, so keepan eye on that.
But if you want look a bit morewho I am, I want me, I do MD
time.
Feel free to, um, follow me onsocial media.
I, I wanna say I'm more updatedon Instagram.
My Instagram stories is wherethe madness really be.
But I'm gonna start to do moreof that content on TikTok, more
(33:48):
casual off the cuff content.
You know, who is that girl?
Thank you so much for watchingthis episode of how Do You
Divine Stick Up in.
until next time, stay loud, stayrooted, stay real.
And be sure to remember to makespace to be.
Well see you on the next one.
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