October 22, 2025 ā¢ 50 mins
Welcome to the final episode of Season 3 on 'How Do You Divine', where we lean into raw, unfiltered conversations. In this episode, Sanika explore a variety of thought-provoking topics based on audience questions from social media. Discussions range from withheld truths about politics and pop culture to deeper dives into cancel culture, AI's impact on media, and the blurred lines between activism, philanthropy and performative posting. We also reflect on generational activism, personal growth, and the evolving nature of social issues. Join us for a candid and heartfelt conclusion to the season.
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Speaker (00:52):
Welcome back to How Do You Divine a space where we
don't run from the weight ofwords, but we lean into it and
explore how they drive the waywe believe, live, love, and
behave.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
In this final episode of season three, I this would
not be curated, won't be aspolished.
We spent all season threeputting together our studio
album, and this episode is goingto be a little bit more raw,
little bit unfiltered, not notsoftened, not neatly packaged.
(01:36):
So if you are looking for aclean, neat conversation, I
recommend you skip this one'cause we about to get into it.
Let's do it.
Speaker (01:51):
I asked you guys on both YouTube, Instagram, on all
social media platforms, whatquestions you'd like to ask as
we wrap up this season andfollowing suit.
As I said, they're allunfiltered, so I'm reading them
here for the first time.
Let's get into it.
Question one, what is one truthyou held backed on this podcast?
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You didn't want to deal with thefallout and what is that truth
now?
Ooh, coming in swinging.
I didn't even realize that wasthe first question.
What is one truth?
I don't necessarily think I heldback any truths during this
podcast, but there are certaintopics that I tend not to speak
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on politics, pop culture onlybecause I feel like they're
sensationalized.
And honestly, it's not thatdeep.
So that would be the only truthI think I've held back is that I
don't lean into pop culture likemany other podcasts and politics
because I think politics are nowbeing driven by everything but
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facts.
So those are my only truthsessentially.
But everything else, it's herefor you to dissect and listen
to.
Next question.
Okay.
Oh, interestingly enough.
The next question is political.
Do you think democracy,especially in the US, is
flexible or finished and why?
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Of course, y'all would've pickedup on the politics and came in
with the politics questions.
Do I think it's fixable?
Absolutely.
Um, do I think it's finished?
No.
I just think we're going througha time, and if I'm honest, I
don't believe a lot of thediscussions we have right now
around politics are based onfacts.
I actually think a lot of themare based on feelings, and my
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perspective is I think we willgrow a lot better as a
community, as a country.
We start to just focus on thefacts.
Emotions are very fleeting.
It's like the weather one day isgood, one day it's not.
But if we vote and havediscussions around politics
purely based on the facts, whatbills did your senator approve
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and vote for, and what billsthey didn't, what, you know,
what the actual initiatives andagendas that they're bringing to
the government, then we can havea more productive conversation.
Right now, unfortunately, I feellike it's a lot of.
Feelings and less facts.
So I don't think it's finished.
I just think we're in a, in amood.
We're in a mood, the US is likea preteen girl at this point.
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Next question.
Alright, oh my gosh.
Another political question.
Okay, this is the last one I'mgonna read, and if it's another
political question, I'm gonnaskip it.
Which current political leaderdo you think actively is
actively dangerous, and why not?
Oh, I'm definitely not answeringthat one.
I think there are a lot ofpolitical leaders, honestly,
that are dangerous based on whatthey say and what they do.
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I choose not to name any, justbecause I just don't wanna be
part of divisive conversations,not because I'm afraid to fall
back.
It's just.
Intelligence is hard to come bythese days, and ignorance is
widespread, so I don't play inthe dirt.
No thanks.
Next is cancel culturenecessarily a corrective or
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modern public stoning?
Not stoning, dramatic much.
Um, where do you stand now?
I don't ever think cancelculture was real.
And actually I can give you agreat example of why I never
thought cancel.
Culture was real.
And I had this conversation theother day with someone and I
used Chris Brown as an example.
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Were many of us disappointedduring the time of Rihanna and
Chris Brown?
Yes, we were all disappointedfor various reasons.
Obviously, the violence is neverever condoned never excusable,
blah, blah, blah.
Yes, I say, blah, blah, blah.
Not to lighten the discussion,but to make it clear that I
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think we're all aligned thatdomestic violence is never
capital N.
E, capital V, capital E are everacceptable, but to cancel
someone in their teen years foractions done as a teenager and
never giving them a pathway forredemption and forgiveness is
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ridiculous.
It's actually like modern daystoning in cruc, crucifying
someone and not giving them theability to be redeemed and grow
and learn to be a better humanbeing.
So do I believe in cancelculture?
Not really.
I think people can be outragedselectively based on how they
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feel about an artist or acertain industry, but.
We can mute someone and thengive them space to come back.
So I don't necessarily thinkcancel culture is a real thing.
I do think that we do haveselective outrage and over time,
because we consume so muchinformation in a week or so,
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we're no longer outraged by it.
But when bigger things happen,that's like.
Monumental in pop culture, likewhat has happened to Chris
Brown?
People tend to still want tohold onto it because essentially
they wanna say the story, right?
The scenario that happened withhim and Rihanna forever ago is
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so much bigger than his career,which is not true.
So going back to your questionis cancel culture necessary is a
necessary corrective.
I'm gonna say no in terms ofChris Brown, but then there are
other artists that are known fordecades of abuse that I'm so
glad we canceled.
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And let's just say we notstepping in the name of love no
more.
Okay.
Um, next question.
So not to be, to be fair, Idon't think it's modern day
stoning.
I think there is a, a opponentof.
Accountability that we usecancel culture to be a part of,
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but we have to be selective andclear about what we are outraged
by and the why and make thatcommunication as loud as the
outrage.
Noise is noise.
And often noise has a longershelf life than the actual.
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Offense.
Just saying next, do you thinkAI in deep fake culture is
killing authenticity in themedia or is that just nossal
just talking?
This is actually a greatquestion.
I actually love, I have thisquestion do and I wanna read it
again'cause I felt like I didn'tread it correctly.
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Do you think AI in deep fakeculture is killing authenticity
in media?
Or is that just nostalgiatalking.
I don't think AI is killingauthenticity in any way.
I think AI is, again, a toolused to expand and explore how
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deep we can get with creativity.
I do think when it comes to deepfakes and AI videos as.
A consumer and as a community,we need to be mindful of the
demand we create for AI videos.
Like all things in economics,there must be in a demand for
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the supply to grow.
So what do I mean by that?
I know everyone has heard aboutthe r and b artist, the AI r and
b artist, which is notnecessarily an AI r and b
artist.
It is.
A female who is not using herlikeness, but only her words to
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be an AI artist.
And many people are still nothappy with that because vocally
they're using AI to promote thisartist.
But went off it in a tangentthere.
Just getting right back to it,if the demand for AI generated
artists such as this artistbecome greater than the demand
for what we would considertraditional talent, I'm just
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gonna use Whitney Houston forexample, just because we can't
put Whitney Houston against anAI for obvious reasons.
That's when as a culture.
It becomes dangerous because nowhuman beings are saying that we
would prefer to hear from an AIgenerated tool more than we'd
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rather see or hear an authenticvoice on a mic.
So do I think it is killingauthenticity?
No.
What I do think is we need to bemindful of our consumption,
which feeds the demand for AIgenerated creativity.
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I do.
I'm worried about that, but thatwas actually a really, really
great question.
So no, I don't think it'skilling authenticity in media.
I think, again, as a consumermyself, as someone who works in
marketing technology.
I just would hope we become moremindful of the things we lean
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into versus the things that wescroll past.
What do I mean by that?
For example, one of the bestcampaigns I've seen in a long
time was that Vaseline image,and if you know the image, you
know what I'm talking about.
It's like a little boy with hisface all scrunched up and a hand
over his face.
That was such a beautiful,nostalgic.
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Image because every child ofcolor, every single day had
their mother slap Vaseline or alotion all over your face, and
you was unhappy with it.
But when you was done, you sawthat child and was like, that
baby is loved.
So to me, that was a beautifullyexecuted message.
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It resonated.
It was deeply relatable.
There was no AI involved, likeonly a human being could have
known what that image would'vere would've done for the brand.
But in contrast, they could havejust created an AI video of a
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mom wiping Vaseline on her son'sface in the car, or right before
they left throughout the door.
It wouldn't have resonated thesame.
Same concept, executeddifferently.
As a community, we need to bemindful of execution and what we
gravitate to.
Because of that, I think AI andDeepFakes will be fine.
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Just again, question everythingyou see because it might not be
real.
Next question.
Okay.
What is one pop culture trendyou think is ruining our
collective mindset right now andone that's improving it?
What is one pop culture trend?
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Hmm.
What is, what would beconsidered a trend in pop
culture?
Would, are you?
I don't know, because I thinkthe word trend is so vague in a
way because is a trend and trendin our behavior or a trend in
something that we're seeing thatis ruining our collective
mindset.
I think anything ruining ourcollective mindset is our lack
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of time management.
Honestly.
I put screen time on.
All of my social media apps andsometimes I find myself 15
minutes more, 10 minutes, youknow, ignore for the day.
So to me, in terms of popculture and consumption, I think
that's what's ruining, ruiningour collective mindsets that we
are staring at screens too long,versus talking to human beings
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and going outside and touchinggrass.
Okay, go touch some grass.
But what's one thing in popculture that is improving our
collective mindset?
One thing that I do love, that Ifeel like we're finally leaning
into is coming together eitherat a conference, an event, a
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party based on our sharedinterest.
I work in marketing technology.
So I attend events alongsidewith marketing, technology,
media and those things, but alsoin my personal life.
I love that I am seeing morebook clubs and culture con and
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all of these different spaceswhere we can come together and
be a community that is learningtogether, laughing together and
loving on each other in realtime, in real life.
So I'm not sure if that's whatyou meant user by this, the word
cultural trend, but I thinkthat's improving.
I love to see more of usoutside.
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So next question.
Where do you personally draw theline between activism and
performative posting, and haveyou ever crossed it?
Good question.
I tend not to lean into anythingperformative in terms of
activism.
I think true activism happenswhen cameras are not turned on
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and images are not being takenof what you do.
But it's, to me, it activism is.
You donating your time and yourintelligence to people that
don't understand, let's just saythe census or voting or their
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rights as a citizen, or theirrights as a parent.
To me, that is a form ofactivism to donate your time and
intelligence to the bettermentof people within your community.
I can't necessarily speak todrawing a personal line on
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activism and performativeposting because I don't post
anything about.
My activism at all, just becauseI don't, for me, I don't believe
it belongs online.
I just don't believe a camera oranything needs to be there
because I'm more concerned witheveryone being comfortable and
feeling seen and valued.
So no camera necessary.
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But in terms of me, what I seeon social media and what people
post and, people donating andmaking gift bags, I'm totally
fine with it.
I don't ever, I don't personallyfeel like there is a line.
What's performative and what isactivism if you're helping
someone, thank you, I appreciateit.
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God appreciates it.
If you are doing it,'causeyou're like, take a picture,
take a ca.
That's between you and Jesus.
I don't, I just feel like that'snone of my business.
But I am happy to see whenpeople are out in the streets
and protesting and helping oneanother.
And if their motives are basedon performative and acceptance,
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that has nothing to do with me.
I'm grateful for the outcome, soI don't, I don't necessarily
have opinion if it crossed theline or not.
I'm just grateful that youhelped another human being.
Next question.
Has your position on any majorsocial issues changed since this
show began?
What changed?
First of all, I just wanna pausethat.
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I'm shocked by the depth ofthese questions.
I thought I was gonna get a lotof, I don't wanna use the word
vain, but you know, more shallowlight questions.
And to be fair, there's quite afew questions here.
So I just randomly grab, copiedand paste them on this document.
I didn't even read them.
And if I'm honest, I didn't doit at all.
(18:52):
Thank you so much I had someonedo it, but I am really impressed
by the depth of these questions.
So again, thank you guys so muchfor taking the time to ask me
these questions, for listeningto the podcast, for supporting
everything that I do.
I'm truly grateful, and I don'tjust say that, you know, as like
my performative.
Thank you guys.
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I couldn't be me without you.
It's just.
It's important to me when I seepeople truly support this show,
not only because it's my show,whoopty do, but because the
content that I create is veryconscious.
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It is not passive content.
I rarely talk about dating andmen versus women and pop
culture.
Did you see what Beyonce waswearing?
You know, these easy discussionsthat happen in our space that,
you know, everyone can digestand laugh and there's space for
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it.
Let's be clear, I love me a popculture conversation.
Show myself.
There is definitely space andit's needed to relieve the
stress of life, but I am alwaysso very grateful when someone's
like, how do you divine?
They're exploring words that,that's interesting.
Let me hit play and download andwatch.
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I am very grateful for thatbecause it is the first step to
acknowledging who you are andhow you move through life and
how.
You affect others.
So seeing the depth of thesequestions and the intentionality
of these questions, I feel likeI'm finding my people.
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Yay.
This is cool.
I'm excited.
All right.
Stop with the science walkingsinica.
Get back in sweat.
All right.
Back into it.
And yes, I have a lot of.
Voices that I use, differentpersonalities.
Let's not get sidetracked again.
All right, here we go.
Has your position on any majorsocial issue, gender, religion,
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identity, politics changed sincethis show began, and what
changed you since this showbegan?
I think it's important to saythat I started the show in 2020.
First episodes were published in2021.
It was a different time, so Idon't think any of my
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positioning on these socialissues have changed the way I
consume information has changedsignificantly since then.
I am from the school of, inorder for anything to be true, I
needed three sources, threefactual sources.
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To write an essay aboutanything.
This was in high school andobviously as we grow up as
adults, we don't need to be likefinding, you know, source to
make a thesis statement and allof that.
Outside of academia, you justconsume information based on
where you're getting it from.
Your CNN's, the Fox, the NewYork Times, wherever.
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And I think prior to COVID.
I could read two differentsources on one topic and feel
satisfied.
I'm like, oh, okay.
This author is positioning theinformation this way.
The other author is positioningthe information that way, and
from those two differentperspectives, identify the facts
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of that topic and theirperspectives and how the truths
lived in the middle.
Right now, if it's somethingthat I truly.
Care about, and I want to knowthe brax tacks on.
Whew.
I go into a rabbit hole.
Sometimes I need five differentsources to find out what truly
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happened for an incident or whattruly transpired overseas or any
major social issues.
Now it requires a lot moresearching.
To ensure that my position onany topic is truly mine and not
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regurgitated from whateversource that I'm most comfortable
with.
And what also has changed is Idon't consume as much
information anymore.
It's the truth.
It's the truth.
I, before the pandemic, I wasdefinitely one of those people
who listened to.
The news, like, you know, as wewere getting dressed in the
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morning and maybe a book in thecar, but a little definitely
radio, like started the car withthe radio and, you know, I just
consumed information moreconsistently in a way to stay
informed where, but it waspassive, you know, like I'm
listening in the car, I'mlistening here.
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Stopping.
Yes.
I used to buy the paper.
I'm a little old lady insidegirls.
I already told you that.
I like a little newspaper, alittle magazine, a little tea.
Put me out in the backyard,girl.
I'm just good.
I'm good.
I'm a little old lady inside.
So I consumed a lot moreinformation in a more passive
way'cause it's fun and I enjoyit.
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Now I have to be so much moreintentional about consumption
and to the point that.
I actually don't consume as muchinformation anymore.
I'm so intentional about currentevents.
What I wanna know, what theneedle is not moving, like tap
me when it makes sense for my togain my attention.
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And, um, I'm learning to balancebetween the heavy content and
fun content.
I talked about this.
A bit a few podcasts ago where Ilike reading books and I've
learned to build in structurebetween my learning and my
lavish, which are the twocategories of books that I
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purchase, listen, and read.
So I've gotten a healthy balancewith my books and I don't buy
the paper anymore.
And yeah, so I don't think anyof my social issues have
changed.
That's a very long-winded answerto your questions, but.
The way I consume informationdefinitely has changed since
this podcast started, but Ithink it's a good thing anyway.
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Next question.
Do you believe Gen Z's activismhas real power and it's mostly
aesthetically anger online?
What is going on with all thesepolitical questions?
I don't think anyone's activismis performative.
I think every generation has.
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Move the needle in the way thatis aligned with that generation.
You know, like I thinkeveryone's activism plays a key
part in making the world betterfor everyone and not just your
race or your area or your taxbracket.
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I think activism should beencouraged and not crucified,
but just.
Let's be mindful of the intentand not the execution.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Next question.
I'm gonna just scroll'cause thisis very long and I think these
up here are just too heavy.
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Let's get into some lightertopics.
What's one?
Unpopular but honest food ormusic take you.
Standby be.
Ah.
They wrote, for example, Beyonceis overrated.
Definitely disagree.
Disagree.
She is in my perspective,underrated.
Give Beyonce two more stars.
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The nerve, the audacity on thisdocument.
No, seriously, I'm a Beyoncestand and I feel like anyone who
hates Beyonce has no work ethic.
Yeah.
There goes my hot take.
If you hate Beyonce, it isbecause you're a hater and you
have no work ethic because youcan hate every single song she's
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ever come out with, but youcannot hate on somebody who puts
that level of work anddedication to their craft.
Like how?
That's crazy.
That's like saying you hatePicasso.
Excuse me, weirdo.
Next or pumpkin spicepropaganda.
Oh yeah.
I'm not here for any pumpkinspice propaganda.
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No, thank you.
Keep it.
Uh, gimme look.
Nut me.
Uh, Canda.
No pumpkin spice.
I'm not here for it.
Anyway.
Next, next.
What's the funniest thing?
You were one Sure.
Was maturity.
That was actually just ego in abla What?
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That was a funny way to putthis.
Oh, I think that's a low shade.
Let me read this question and Ijust, I'm gonna just see if it's
a shade.
What is the funniest thing youwere one Sure was maturity.
That was actually just ego in ablazer.
First of all, I love Mia Blazer.
I have 152 of them.
So if that was a blazer shade, Idon't care.
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'cause I love blazers.
But what is the funny thing?
I once thought was maturity, butwas actually ego.
People speaking loudly inmeetings.
Ugh.
I'm not gonna say yellingbecause I don't think any
professional actually admits toyelling in any corporate or
professional space, but adultsthat cannot articulate.
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Their thoughts without yellingin professional spaces, I is
yuck.
I feel like my younger self usedto be like, ah, that was so
boss.
They put everyone in the room oncheck.
And now being older, I realizeit's a huge sign of immaturity
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if you cannot articulate aconflicting thought.
Without being aggressive.
Yeah very immature.
Not cool.
All right, next one.
What is your petty opinion?
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You will never surrender, nomatter the facts.
My first petty opinion is that Ihurt.
I hate the word petty.
It is the cute way of sayingimmature.
Cut it out.
So, no, thank you.
That, that's my, that's myanswer to what, back to the
question.
What is the, what is a pettyopinion?
You will never surrender, nomatter the evidence?
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And my answer is that the wordpetty just means immature, but
it's cute and I don't like it.
Um, yeah.
Next question.
What is one delusional dream youstill keep alive and refuse to
kill?
Oh, I got a few, but I'm notgonna tell you them on the
podcast.
That'd be crazy.
That mean I'm, I can't say itout loud.
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I have a few and then I, they'reonly delusional until they, it
comes true.
Okay.
Two, two.
Beat, beat.
I got a few, so I ain't tellingyou any of them.
I believe in execution.
That's all I'll say.
So every one of my dreams willbe executed blo, and that was
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very Nene leaks.
If you could delete one commonhuman behavior from society just
poof gone, what would it be?
Oh, that's actually a coolquestion.
If I could delete.
I love this question.
This is actually cool.
If I could delete one commonhuman behavior from society.
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Just poof.
Gone.
What would it be?
Oh, that is such a coolquestion.
Hmm.
I have so many.
If I could delete one commonhuman behavior, so it has to be
behavioral from society, justpoof.
Gone, what would it be?
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Brushing things under the rug.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,yeah.
That would be, I would removeanyone's ability to brush how
they truly feel about aninteraction under the rug.
Like they would have to, I don'twanna say confront because it
just seems so combative in away, but they would have to
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articulate how they feel aboutan interaction either during
that time or shortly after.
So your your ability to hidethings will no longer exist.
Take it right away.
I love that.
Yes.
Ooh, all right.
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Next question is pop culturetrend.
No.
One belief you hold that willget you dragged out loud.
Why y'all trying to have meexpose myself on this last
podcast?
A one belief you hold that couldget you dragged and said out
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loud, I don't even know.
And listen, if you need to dragme, please go ahead and make
sure you drag me my cute boots.
Okay.
Okay.
Um, one belief that would get medragged.
I don't know if this is abelief.
But yeah, maybe it is a beliefthat you're not for everyone.
Isn't meant for everyone.
What do I mean is that everypersonality isn't meant to be
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adored by everyone.
I think this perception of Ishould be liked by the masses is
a fallacy.
No one is loved by the masses.
Think of any.
Pop culture icon that you lovethat everyone could hate.
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So that's one belief that mightget me dragged because I'm not
for everybody and I don't thinkanybody is for everyone.
It's weird.
All right, next question.
A lot of these were like reallypolitical, and I, I was shocked.
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I didn't expect that.
Look at it.
I was like, look at you withyour intelligent questions.
Well, excuse me.
Um, here's a good question.
You talk a lot about yourCaribbean roots.
Can you tell us more about whereyou're from and how do you end
up where you are?
That's a very long story thatcan't be answered in one
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question.
I'm originally from Montego Bay,Jamaica.
Born there and migrated to thestates.
When I was three or four yearsold, I was raised in Brooklyn,
New York.
For the majority of my life,went back to Jamaica to start
high school.
Did that first year and back toNew York.
I was, and I've been here eversince.
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So, and how did I get to where Iam?
I am where I am now.
I don't know.
I don't know how to answer that.
That's a little vague, but Ibelieve so deeply about the
importance of.
My roots in the Caribbean, aswell as how I was raised here in
New York City, is the meltingpot of the world if you ask me.
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That question is very whilespecific, vague in a way,
because I can't get that deep inone question, but that's me.
I love it.
Next.
Next question.
What is a green flag in peoplethat no one talks about enough?
That's a good one.
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What is a green flag in peoplethat no one talks about enough?
I'm, I'm assuming green flagmean go.
You know how I feel about makingassumptions, so I'm being clear
about when or before I answer.
Uh, I really wanna sayauthenticity, but I think that's
too vague.
But to me, what's a green flagin people that isn't spoken
about enough is their energy,right?
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You can meet someone in personand know immediately when after
two sentences, I don't reallywant to talk to you no more.
Or if I wanna lean in and get toknow you more and just, you
know, build on this connectionto become friends.
And I don't think people talkabout that enough.
I think because we live in sucha digital world, it's easily to
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access people online that wehave forgotten how important and
essential people's energy are.
You can't hide bad energy.
In my perspective and it helpsyou with your discernment.
Having good discernment ispivotal and just like a muscle,
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you gotta get out there and talkto people to keep it.
Yeah, in good standing.
I need a discernment.
Check it checkup.
Okay, next question.
If you could assign onemandatory class for every adult
on earth, what would it be?
I like these like.
(36:21):
Dear John, questions, in a way,they're so funny, so I wanna
read them again.
If you could assign onemandatory class for every adult
on earth, what would it be?
My first, I used to, I don'tknow if you're watching this on
YouTube, you saw my face, whichwas like my first reaction, but
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I thought it was mean, but I'mgonna say it anyway.
My mandatory class would behygiene.
Okay.
Yeah.
You know.
Hygiene.
That would be my mandatoryclass, but that's a little bit
mean.
Let's try another one.
Communication.
I don't think everyone needs tobe a perfect communicator, but I
think it's important that you'reable to articulate how you feel
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and your desired outcomes.
So that's a class that I wouldsay every adult should take the
ability to connect with oneanother.
What's one thing you thinkpeople pretend to enjoy but
secretly hate parties?
Oh, let's get into it Now.
This is a hot take that theygoing to eat my ass up about,
but I'm totally okay with it.
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I think people pretend to loveparties and FETs.
That can be redundant, but theysecretly hate it because.
Some as someone who's from NewYork and I'm Caribbean mega
party in idea.
All right.
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Some of them party here is soredundant.
The only thing different is thevenue and maybe hopefully three
or four people, but nine timesout of 10 outta seeing people in
a party, they playing the sameplaylist.
I think that's what irritates methe most.
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To be fair, I don't wanna likesay this is like a DJ thing.
There is a handful of great DJsand you know it's their party.
You gonna have a good time.
You're not gonna hear the sameseven songs you heard last
party.
Because a lot of DJs juggle theexact same way.
They know the par, the songsthat's gonna get the crowd going
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crazy.
Whatever.
But then there are other DJsthat really get in the crate, if
you know what I mean.
That's a real millennial vibes.
When I say get in the crate,'cause I mean, I don't even know
what I mean by the crate, but Imean, go deep in the playlist.
Not just play the hot jointsfrom now, the hot joints from
2000, but get deep in the crateand they pull the nineties, they
pull the eighties, they pullsongs from different genres.
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That's a good party, that's agood time.
But a lot of these parties arevery redundant.
It's just like going to a venueto stand up and look at the
people you looked at two weeksago or last weekend.
It's weird.
So I think that's what peoplepretend to enjoy, that they
really don't, because sometimesit's not giving, it's not a
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vibe, it's just something to do.
No thanks.
Next question.
If you woke up with 5 milliontax free tomorrow, what is your
first irresponsible pur?
What is your first irresponsiblepurchase?
You will make 5 million tax freewas my first irresponsible tax.
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I don't know, I'm, I immediatelysaid property in my mind that's
really, if I'm honest, as I readit, I was like, Ooh, property.
But that's not reallyirresponsible.
I don't really, I'm not big onjewelry.
I love cute things, so maybeI'll build an additional closet
and just buy a lot of prettythings and put in there, maybe
some bags and stuff.
But that's really it.
I wouldn't, I don't know.
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I like trips and pretty things.
I don't sorry.
Not that fun.
Um, what if the hill you wouldembarrassingly die on even if
everyone laughs at you?
There are so many.
That is such a vague question.
You gotta be more specific.
I'm willing to die on manyheels.
I'm okay.
If you could time travel for onehour.
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Just to watch something withyour own eyes, what moment are
you choosing?
Oh, reading this question forthe first time, what immediately
came to mind was the moment mygrandparents meant, which kind
of makes me sad in a way.
But really, if I could timetravel, both my grandparents, my
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maternal and paternalgrandparents, just because I
love my grandmothers dearly, Iwould love to be a fly on the
wall.
When they met their husbands andwhen they met them, just to see
like, you know, what they saidto them to like,'cause both my
grandmothers is cute as hell andfly as hell.
So I just always wanna be like,how did you bagg her?
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I wanna know.
So, yeah.
Oh, that's sweet.
That was such a beautifulquestion.
'cause I didn't expect to thinkabout that, but I would love to
see the moments.
Clint Reed pulled up on LeneReed and the moment my
grandfather pulled up on la, um,sister Laura, that would've been
a moment.
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Yeah, that would've been great.
I definitely wouldn't see that.
What is a sign you instantlyknow?
Someone has no self-awareness.
I don't know if I know it's asign.
I dunno if I know if there's asign.
I dunno if there's a sign, butthere are certain things that,
like earlier someone asked mefor green flags.
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I have certain red flags that Iwon't necessarily list all of
them out, but someone's lack ofself-awareness is not reading
the room.
To me, that's that is weird asan adult to not be able to read
the room when you're talking tolike a group of people or you're
anywhere, it's very.
Odd when you can't read a room,but some people just don't
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realize.
So I don't necessarily feel likeit's something to make them like
a bad person.
It's just growth at one point.
Sometimes I don't read the roomintentionally.
All right, Oh, I almost forgotrapid fire.
Okay, let's do rapid fire andthen we'll close out okay\ all
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right.
Rapid fire.
Okay.
Here are rapid fire questionsoff the top of the dome.
I'm just asking.
What is one thing you refuse topretend to like anymore people?
I don't.
That's mean.
No, let's answer that for real.
What's one thing you refuse topretend to, like, I don't know.
(43:01):
Well, meals, I'm not a full meallover.
I do not like a whole heartymeal.
We go out to dinner.
I want apps and drinks andmostly dessert.
So I'm not gonna pretend to likemeals anymore.
How about that?
I don't like meals.
One thing the internet has madepeople delusional about, Hmm,
success clock it.
(43:23):
One thing you miss about who youused to be, the rawness, but I'm
glad I'm no longer that person.
'cause I felt like.
That was a bit mean, honestly.
Is love more choice or morechemistry?
I would say love is morechemistry because you need to
(43:43):
know someone energy.
Morals principle.
It's all about chemistry.
Hey boo.
Hi Omar.
Love you.
Uh, do you think loyalty isstill a real value in 2025?
Absolutely.
20 25, 20 50, 20 72, forever.
I definitely think there's somuch value in loyalty, but I
(44:04):
also think the way I defineloyalty can be very different
from how you define loyalty.
And it's important to clarifywhat loyalty means to not only
yourself, but the people youexpect to be loyal to.
Because sometimes, honestly,people don't expect loyalty.
They expect obedience.
(44:24):
Yeah.
I said it.
So they're sad.
Um, what's something you judgepeople for?
Quietly.
Hygiene.
Just, okay.
All right.
Uh, maybe I'm being a little toounfiltered, but seriously
though, they have perfumes andthings like, all right.
(44:50):
Who do you have to outgrow tobecome who you are?
Ooh.
I wouldn't say who I think Ihave to outgrow.
I don't think it's persondependent.
I do think it's situationaldependent.
I need to.
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Outgrow the belief thateveryone, I don't necessarily
think everyone could come withme, but my expectation that
people could grow there.
I need to let that go, but it'sall right then it's coming to an
end.
That's when I wrap it up.
What is the most expensive formof denial?
Whoa, this is supposed to berapid fire.
That seems deep.
(45:31):
What is the most expensive formof denial?
Ignoring maybe.
That's a really good question.
I actually really love that.
I'm gonna be meddling on thatfor days.
What is the most expensive formof denial?
Pretending to not see whatyou've already seen.
I think that's very expensive,and honestly, anything that
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costs you peace.
Too expensive and also thepursuit to find out what your
piece is.
I'm sorry.
I know this was supposed to beunfiltered and very like
lighthearted, but some of thesequestions are really deep and
I'm just, I'm never okay withaccepting other people's
bullshit for the sake of yourwellness.
(46:16):
In any space, form, anything.
So we could be talking about arecipe and you can be like, well
girl, you know, Billy likespeanuts, but you know, I might
have a little allergy.
Fuck Billy.
Fuck Billy.
Do not put that goddamn peanutin a recipe.
So I know it's getting deep,although it's rapid fire.
But I think these things areimportant.
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I think being unapologeticallywho you are.
Does cost similarly to trying toconform to a version of you that
you're not.
So if you going, you gonna payon the front or you gonna pay on
the back how you wanna pay.
It's all right.
I'd rather pay on the back.
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Me and Jesus is good.
Just speaking for myself here.
I'm, I'm good.
I'm good.
I'll take it.
I'll take it.
All right, last rapid fire.
Who is someone?
Everyone praises that you simplydon't get, Ooh, y'all really
want me to name people on thispodcast.
Who is someone everyone praisesthat I just don't get?
(47:23):
I would go with comedians'causeI actually love comedians and
there's certain comedians that Ireally love and there are other
comedians that I feel, ugh, thatI feel like.
Glorify ignorance and be like,okay, footie.
No, but I'm not gonna name hisnames, but it's a male comedian
and it's all I'll say next.
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Anyway, so that's it.
The end of season three.
No bow tie, no bow on top, noinspirational, sendoff, no.
Join me next time with a smileand a fade out.
This season was aboutdefinitions and really putting a
stake in the ground.
Billing a pillar of my creativeuniverse, what it means, who
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controls it.
What happens when we stopletting people in words define
our reality.
And if I'm honest, I'm walkingaway from this season so
different than any other season,especially so different than how
I started, because I let go ofthe belief that it needed X, Y,
(48:30):
and Z to be my vision.
I just invested in it myself.
Season four is coming.
We are still building, but it'sgoing to be very different
because each pillar in theuniverse feeds the other and
like many things in life.
We evaluate, we evolve, and wecontinue to move forward.
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I hope this podcast helped youquestion your belief system, not
just what you were taught, buthow you would like to show up in
the world.
I believe that a lot of thelimitations that we have on
ourselves are.
Adopted from how people weretold you you should be.
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How society told you.
You can only be acceptable to beall based on words.
So define your own life in a waythat works best for who you are
in this season.
'cause guess what?
Next season you might besomebody thoroughly different.
You hear me?
So thank you for listening tothis episode of Unfiltered.
How Do You Divine?
(49:40):
Not see you on the next one, butsee you next season.
Bye.
My daughter loves when I dothis, this makes my daughters
very happy.
Have a good one happy holidays.
See you in 2026 that's a wrap
Welcome back to How Do You Divine a space where we
don't run from the weight ofwords, but we lean into it and
explore how they drive the waywe believe, live, love, and
behave.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
In this final episode of season three, I this would
not be curated, won't be aspolished.
We spent all season threeputting together our studio
album, and this episode is goingto be a little bit more raw,
little bit unfiltered, not notsoftened, not neatly packaged.
(01:36):
So if you are looking for aclean, neat conversation, I
recommend you skip this one'cause we about to get into it.
Let's do it.
Speaker (01:51):
I asked you guys on both YouTube, Instagram, on all
social media platforms, whatquestions you'd like to ask as
we wrap up this season andfollowing suit.
As I said, they're allunfiltered, so I'm reading them
here for the first time.
Let's get into it.
Question one, what is one truthyou held backed on this podcast?
(02:14):
You didn't want to deal with thefallout and what is that truth
now?
Ooh, coming in swinging.
I didn't even realize that wasthe first question.
What is one truth?
I don't necessarily think I heldback any truths during this
podcast, but there are certaintopics that I tend not to speak
(02:36):
on politics, pop culture onlybecause I feel like they're
sensationalized.
And honestly, it's not thatdeep.
So that would be the only truthI think I've held back is that I
don't lean into pop culture likemany other podcasts and politics
because I think politics are nowbeing driven by everything but
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facts.
So those are my only truthsessentially.
But everything else, it's herefor you to dissect and listen
to.
Next question.
Okay.
Oh, interestingly enough.
The next question is political.
Do you think democracy,especially in the US, is
flexible or finished and why?
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Of course, y'all would've pickedup on the politics and came in
with the politics questions.
Do I think it's fixable?
Absolutely.
Um, do I think it's finished?
No.
I just think we're going througha time, and if I'm honest, I
don't believe a lot of thediscussions we have right now
around politics are based onfacts.
I actually think a lot of themare based on feelings, and my
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perspective is I think we willgrow a lot better as a
community, as a country.
We start to just focus on thefacts.
Emotions are very fleeting.
It's like the weather one day isgood, one day it's not.
But if we vote and havediscussions around politics
purely based on the facts, whatbills did your senator approve
(04:06):
and vote for, and what billsthey didn't, what, you know,
what the actual initiatives andagendas that they're bringing to
the government, then we can havea more productive conversation.
Right now, unfortunately, I feellike it's a lot of.
Feelings and less facts.
So I don't think it's finished.
I just think we're in a, in amood.
We're in a mood, the US is likea preteen girl at this point.
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Next question.
Alright, oh my gosh.
Another political question.
Okay, this is the last one I'mgonna read, and if it's another
political question, I'm gonnaskip it.
Which current political leaderdo you think actively is
actively dangerous, and why not?
Oh, I'm definitely not answeringthat one.
I think there are a lot ofpolitical leaders, honestly,
that are dangerous based on whatthey say and what they do.
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I choose not to name any, justbecause I just don't wanna be
part of divisive conversations,not because I'm afraid to fall
back.
It's just.
Intelligence is hard to come bythese days, and ignorance is
widespread, so I don't play inthe dirt.
No thanks.
Next is cancel culturenecessarily a corrective or
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modern public stoning?
Not stoning, dramatic much.
Um, where do you stand now?
I don't ever think cancelculture was real.
And actually I can give you agreat example of why I never
thought cancel.
Culture was real.
And I had this conversation theother day with someone and I
used Chris Brown as an example.
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Were many of us disappointedduring the time of Rihanna and
Chris Brown?
Yes, we were all disappointedfor various reasons.
Obviously, the violence is neverever condoned never excusable,
blah, blah, blah.
Yes, I say, blah, blah, blah.
Not to lighten the discussion,but to make it clear that I
(06:00):
think we're all aligned thatdomestic violence is never
capital N.
E, capital V, capital E are everacceptable, but to cancel
someone in their teen years foractions done as a teenager and
never giving them a pathway forredemption and forgiveness is
(06:25):
ridiculous.
It's actually like modern daystoning in cruc, crucifying
someone and not giving them theability to be redeemed and grow
and learn to be a better humanbeing.
So do I believe in cancelculture?
Not really.
I think people can be outragedselectively based on how they
(06:45):
feel about an artist or acertain industry, but.
We can mute someone and thengive them space to come back.
So I don't necessarily thinkcancel culture is a real thing.
I do think that we do haveselective outrage and over time,
because we consume so muchinformation in a week or so,
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we're no longer outraged by it.
But when bigger things happen,that's like.
Monumental in pop culture, likewhat has happened to Chris
Brown?
People tend to still want tohold onto it because essentially
they wanna say the story, right?
The scenario that happened withhim and Rihanna forever ago is
(07:28):
so much bigger than his career,which is not true.
So going back to your questionis cancel culture necessary is a
necessary corrective.
I'm gonna say no in terms ofChris Brown, but then there are
other artists that are known fordecades of abuse that I'm so
glad we canceled.
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And let's just say we notstepping in the name of love no
more.
Okay.
Um, next question.
So not to be, to be fair, Idon't think it's modern day
stoning.
I think there is a, a opponentof.
Accountability that we usecancel culture to be a part of,
(08:10):
but we have to be selective andclear about what we are outraged
by and the why and make thatcommunication as loud as the
outrage.
Noise is noise.
And often noise has a longershelf life than the actual.
(08:31):
Offense.
Just saying next, do you thinkAI in deep fake culture is
killing authenticity in themedia or is that just nossal
just talking?
This is actually a greatquestion.
I actually love, I have thisquestion do and I wanna read it
again'cause I felt like I didn'tread it correctly.
(08:51):
Do you think AI in deep fakeculture is killing authenticity
in media?
Or is that just nostalgiatalking.
I don't think AI is killingauthenticity in any way.
I think AI is, again, a toolused to expand and explore how
(09:12):
deep we can get with creativity.
I do think when it comes to deepfakes and AI videos as.
A consumer and as a community,we need to be mindful of the
demand we create for AI videos.
Like all things in economics,there must be in a demand for
(09:36):
the supply to grow.
So what do I mean by that?
I know everyone has heard aboutthe r and b artist, the AI r and
b artist, which is notnecessarily an AI r and b
artist.
It is.
A female who is not using herlikeness, but only her words to
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be an AI artist.
And many people are still nothappy with that because vocally
they're using AI to promote thisartist.
But went off it in a tangentthere.
Just getting right back to it,if the demand for AI generated
artists such as this artistbecome greater than the demand
for what we would considertraditional talent, I'm just
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gonna use Whitney Houston forexample, just because we can't
put Whitney Houston against anAI for obvious reasons.
That's when as a culture.
It becomes dangerous because nowhuman beings are saying that we
would prefer to hear from an AIgenerated tool more than we'd
(10:42):
rather see or hear an authenticvoice on a mic.
So do I think it is killingauthenticity?
No.
What I do think is we need to bemindful of our consumption,
which feeds the demand for AIgenerated creativity.
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I do.
I'm worried about that, but thatwas actually a really, really
great question.
So no, I don't think it'skilling authenticity in media.
I think, again, as a consumermyself, as someone who works in
marketing technology.
I just would hope we become moremindful of the things we lean
(11:30):
into versus the things that wescroll past.
What do I mean by that?
For example, one of the bestcampaigns I've seen in a long
time was that Vaseline image,and if you know the image, you
know what I'm talking about.
It's like a little boy with hisface all scrunched up and a hand
over his face.
That was such a beautiful,nostalgic.
(11:52):
Image because every child ofcolor, every single day had
their mother slap Vaseline or alotion all over your face, and
you was unhappy with it.
But when you was done, you sawthat child and was like, that
baby is loved.
So to me, that was a beautifullyexecuted message.
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It resonated.
It was deeply relatable.
There was no AI involved, likeonly a human being could have
known what that image would'vere would've done for the brand.
But in contrast, they could havejust created an AI video of a
(12:36):
mom wiping Vaseline on her son'sface in the car, or right before
they left throughout the door.
It wouldn't have resonated thesame.
Same concept, executeddifferently.
As a community, we need to bemindful of execution and what we
gravitate to.
Because of that, I think AI andDeepFakes will be fine.
(12:56):
Just again, question everythingyou see because it might not be
real.
Next question.
Okay.
What is one pop culture trendyou think is ruining our
collective mindset right now andone that's improving it?
What is one pop culture trend?
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Hmm.
What is, what would beconsidered a trend in pop
culture?
Would, are you?
I don't know, because I thinkthe word trend is so vague in a
way because is a trend and trendin our behavior or a trend in
something that we're seeing thatis ruining our collective
mindset.
I think anything ruining ourcollective mindset is our lack
(13:40):
of time management.
Honestly.
I put screen time on.
All of my social media apps andsometimes I find myself 15
minutes more, 10 minutes, youknow, ignore for the day.
So to me, in terms of popculture and consumption, I think
that's what's ruining, ruiningour collective mindsets that we
are staring at screens too long,versus talking to human beings
(14:03):
and going outside and touchinggrass.
Okay, go touch some grass.
But what's one thing in popculture that is improving our
collective mindset?
One thing that I do love, that Ifeel like we're finally leaning
into is coming together eitherat a conference, an event, a
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party based on our sharedinterest.
I work in marketing technology.
So I attend events alongsidewith marketing, technology,
media and those things, but alsoin my personal life.
I love that I am seeing morebook clubs and culture con and
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all of these different spaceswhere we can come together and
be a community that is learningtogether, laughing together and
loving on each other in realtime, in real life.
So I'm not sure if that's whatyou meant user by this, the word
cultural trend, but I thinkthat's improving.
I love to see more of usoutside.
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So next question.
Where do you personally draw theline between activism and
performative posting, and haveyou ever crossed it?
Good question.
I tend not to lean into anythingperformative in terms of
activism.
I think true activism happenswhen cameras are not turned on
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and images are not being takenof what you do.
But it's, to me, it activism is.
You donating your time and yourintelligence to people that
don't understand, let's just saythe census or voting or their
(16:40):
rights as a citizen, or theirrights as a parent.
To me, that is a form ofactivism to donate your time and
intelligence to the bettermentof people within your community.
I can't necessarily speak todrawing a personal line on
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activism and performativeposting because I don't post
anything about.
My activism at all, just becauseI don't, for me, I don't believe
it belongs online.
I just don't believe a camera oranything needs to be there
because I'm more concerned witheveryone being comfortable and
feeling seen and valued.
So no camera necessary.
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But in terms of me, what I seeon social media and what people
post and, people donating andmaking gift bags, I'm totally
fine with it.
I don't ever, I don't personallyfeel like there is a line.
What's performative and what isactivism if you're helping
someone, thank you, I appreciateit.
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God appreciates it.
If you are doing it,'causeyou're like, take a picture,
take a ca.
That's between you and Jesus.
I don't, I just feel like that'snone of my business.
But I am happy to see whenpeople are out in the streets
and protesting and helping oneanother.
And if their motives are basedon performative and acceptance,
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that has nothing to do with me.
I'm grateful for the outcome, soI don't, I don't necessarily
have opinion if it crossed theline or not.
I'm just grateful that youhelped another human being.
Next question.
Has your position on any majorsocial issues changed since this
show began?
What changed?
First of all, I just wanna pausethat.
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I'm shocked by the depth ofthese questions.
I thought I was gonna get a lotof, I don't wanna use the word
vain, but you know, more shallowlight questions.
And to be fair, there's quite afew questions here.
So I just randomly grab, copiedand paste them on this document.
I didn't even read them.
And if I'm honest, I didn't doit at all.
(18:52):
Thank you so much I had someonedo it, but I am really impressed
by the depth of these questions.
So again, thank you guys so muchfor taking the time to ask me
these questions, for listeningto the podcast, for supporting
everything that I do.
I'm truly grateful, and I don'tjust say that, you know, as like
my performative.
Thank you guys.
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I couldn't be me without you.
It's just.
It's important to me when I seepeople truly support this show,
not only because it's my show,whoopty do, but because the
content that I create is veryconscious.
(19:33):
It is not passive content.
I rarely talk about dating andmen versus women and pop
culture.
Did you see what Beyonce waswearing?
You know, these easy discussionsthat happen in our space that,
you know, everyone can digestand laugh and there's space for
(19:54):
it.
Let's be clear, I love me a popculture conversation.
Show myself.
There is definitely space andit's needed to relieve the
stress of life, but I am alwaysso very grateful when someone's
like, how do you divine?
They're exploring words that,that's interesting.
Let me hit play and download andwatch.
(20:16):
I am very grateful for thatbecause it is the first step to
acknowledging who you are andhow you move through life and
how.
You affect others.
So seeing the depth of thesequestions and the intentionality
of these questions, I feel likeI'm finding my people.
(20:38):
Yay.
This is cool.
I'm excited.
All right.
Stop with the science walkingsinica.
Get back in sweat.
All right.
Back into it.
And yes, I have a lot of.
Voices that I use, differentpersonalities.
Let's not get sidetracked again.
All right, here we go.
Has your position on any majorsocial issue, gender, religion,
(20:59):
identity, politics changed sincethis show began, and what
changed you since this showbegan?
I think it's important to saythat I started the show in 2020.
First episodes were published in2021.
It was a different time, so Idon't think any of my
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positioning on these socialissues have changed the way I
consume information has changedsignificantly since then.
I am from the school of, inorder for anything to be true, I
needed three sources, threefactual sources.
(21:44):
To write an essay aboutanything.
This was in high school andobviously as we grow up as
adults, we don't need to be likefinding, you know, source to
make a thesis statement and allof that.
Outside of academia, you justconsume information based on
where you're getting it from.
Your CNN's, the Fox, the NewYork Times, wherever.
(22:04):
And I think prior to COVID.
I could read two differentsources on one topic and feel
satisfied.
I'm like, oh, okay.
This author is positioning theinformation this way.
The other author is positioningthe information that way, and
from those two differentperspectives, identify the facts
(22:27):
of that topic and theirperspectives and how the truths
lived in the middle.
Right now, if it's somethingthat I truly.
Care about, and I want to knowthe brax tacks on.
Whew.
I go into a rabbit hole.
Sometimes I need five differentsources to find out what truly
(22:50):
happened for an incident or whattruly transpired overseas or any
major social issues.
Now it requires a lot moresearching.
To ensure that my position onany topic is truly mine and not
(23:13):
regurgitated from whateversource that I'm most comfortable
with.
And what also has changed is Idon't consume as much
information anymore.
It's the truth.
It's the truth.
I, before the pandemic, I wasdefinitely one of those people
who listened to.
The news, like, you know, as wewere getting dressed in the
(23:34):
morning and maybe a book in thecar, but a little definitely
radio, like started the car withthe radio and, you know, I just
consumed information moreconsistently in a way to stay
informed where, but it waspassive, you know, like I'm
listening in the car, I'mlistening here.
(23:55):
Stopping.
Yes.
I used to buy the paper.
I'm a little old lady insidegirls.
I already told you that.
I like a little newspaper, alittle magazine, a little tea.
Put me out in the backyard,girl.
I'm just good.
I'm good.
I'm a little old lady inside.
So I consumed a lot moreinformation in a more passive
way'cause it's fun and I enjoyit.
(24:17):
Now I have to be so much moreintentional about consumption
and to the point that.
I actually don't consume as muchinformation anymore.
I'm so intentional about currentevents.
What I wanna know, what theneedle is not moving, like tap
me when it makes sense for my togain my attention.
(24:37):
And, um, I'm learning to balancebetween the heavy content and
fun content.
I talked about this.
A bit a few podcasts ago where Ilike reading books and I've
learned to build in structurebetween my learning and my
lavish, which are the twocategories of books that I
(24:59):
purchase, listen, and read.
So I've gotten a healthy balancewith my books and I don't buy
the paper anymore.
And yeah, so I don't think anyof my social issues have
changed.
That's a very long-winded answerto your questions, but.
The way I consume informationdefinitely has changed since
this podcast started, but Ithink it's a good thing anyway.
(25:23):
Next question.
Do you believe Gen Z's activismhas real power and it's mostly
aesthetically anger online?
What is going on with all thesepolitical questions?
I don't think anyone's activismis performative.
I think every generation has.
(25:45):
Move the needle in the way thatis aligned with that generation.
You know, like I thinkeveryone's activism plays a key
part in making the world betterfor everyone and not just your
race or your area or your taxbracket.
(26:06):
I think activism should beencouraged and not crucified,
but just.
Let's be mindful of the intentand not the execution.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Next question.
I'm gonna just scroll'cause thisis very long and I think these
up here are just too heavy.
(26:27):
Let's get into some lightertopics.
What's one?
Unpopular but honest food ormusic take you.
Standby be.
Ah.
They wrote, for example, Beyonceis overrated.
Definitely disagree.
Disagree.
She is in my perspective,underrated.
Give Beyonce two more stars.
(26:48):
The nerve, the audacity on thisdocument.
No, seriously, I'm a Beyoncestand and I feel like anyone who
hates Beyonce has no work ethic.
Yeah.
There goes my hot take.
If you hate Beyonce, it isbecause you're a hater and you
have no work ethic because youcan hate every single song she's
(27:09):
ever come out with, but youcannot hate on somebody who puts
that level of work anddedication to their craft.
Like how?
That's crazy.
That's like saying you hatePicasso.
Excuse me, weirdo.
Next or pumpkin spicepropaganda.
Oh yeah.
I'm not here for any pumpkinspice propaganda.
(27:31):
No, thank you.
Keep it.
Uh, gimme look.
Nut me.
Uh, Canda.
No pumpkin spice.
I'm not here for it.
Anyway.
Next, next.
What's the funniest thing?
You were one Sure.
Was maturity.
That was actually just ego in abla What?
(27:55):
That was a funny way to putthis.
Oh, I think that's a low shade.
Let me read this question and Ijust, I'm gonna just see if it's
a shade.
What is the funniest thing youwere one Sure was maturity.
That was actually just ego in ablazer.
First of all, I love Mia Blazer.
I have 152 of them.
So if that was a blazer shade, Idon't care.
(28:15):
'cause I love blazers.
But what is the funny thing?
I once thought was maturity, butwas actually ego.
People speaking loudly inmeetings.
Ugh.
I'm not gonna say yellingbecause I don't think any
professional actually admits toyelling in any corporate or
professional space, but adultsthat cannot articulate.
(28:41):
Their thoughts without yellingin professional spaces, I is
yuck.
I feel like my younger self usedto be like, ah, that was so
boss.
They put everyone in the room oncheck.
And now being older, I realizeit's a huge sign of immaturity
(29:01):
if you cannot articulate aconflicting thought.
Without being aggressive.
Yeah very immature.
Not cool.
All right, next one.
What is your petty opinion?
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You will never surrender, nomatter the facts.
My first petty opinion is that Ihurt.
I hate the word petty.
It is the cute way of sayingimmature.
Cut it out.
So, no, thank you.
That, that's my, that's myanswer to what, back to the
question.
What is the, what is a pettyopinion?
You will never surrender, nomatter the evidence?
(29:44):
And my answer is that the wordpetty just means immature, but
it's cute and I don't like it.
Um, yeah.
Next question.
What is one delusional dream youstill keep alive and refuse to
kill?
Oh, I got a few, but I'm notgonna tell you them on the
podcast.
That'd be crazy.
That mean I'm, I can't say itout loud.
(30:06):
I have a few and then I, they'reonly delusional until they, it
comes true.
Okay.
Two, two.
Beat, beat.
I got a few, so I ain't tellingyou any of them.
I believe in execution.
That's all I'll say.
So every one of my dreams willbe executed blo, and that was
(30:29):
very Nene leaks.
If you could delete one commonhuman behavior from society just
poof gone, what would it be?
Oh, that's actually a coolquestion.
If I could delete.
I love this question.
This is actually cool.
If I could delete one commonhuman behavior from society.
(30:52):
Just poof.
Gone.
What would it be?
Oh, that is such a coolquestion.
Hmm.
I have so many.
If I could delete one commonhuman behavior, so it has to be
behavioral from society, justpoof.
Gone, what would it be?
(31:15):
Brushing things under the rug.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,yeah.
That would be, I would removeanyone's ability to brush how
they truly feel about aninteraction under the rug.
Like they would have to, I don'twanna say confront because it
just seems so combative in away, but they would have to
(31:36):
articulate how they feel aboutan interaction either during
that time or shortly after.
So your your ability to hidethings will no longer exist.
Take it right away.
I love that.
Yes.
Ooh, all right.
(31:56):
Next question is pop culturetrend.
No.
One belief you hold that willget you dragged out loud.
Why y'all trying to have meexpose myself on this last
podcast?
A one belief you hold that couldget you dragged and said out
(32:17):
loud, I don't even know.
And listen, if you need to dragme, please go ahead and make
sure you drag me my cute boots.
Okay.
Okay.
Um, one belief that would get medragged.
I don't know if this is abelief.
But yeah, maybe it is a beliefthat you're not for everyone.
Isn't meant for everyone.
What do I mean is that everypersonality isn't meant to be
(32:43):
adored by everyone.
I think this perception of Ishould be liked by the masses is
a fallacy.
No one is loved by the masses.
Think of any.
Pop culture icon that you lovethat everyone could hate.
(33:04):
So that's one belief that mightget me dragged because I'm not
for everybody and I don't thinkanybody is for everyone.
It's weird.
All right, next question.
A lot of these were like reallypolitical, and I, I was shocked.
(33:24):
I didn't expect that.
Look at it.
I was like, look at you withyour intelligent questions.
Well, excuse me.
Um, here's a good question.
You talk a lot about yourCaribbean roots.
Can you tell us more about whereyou're from and how do you end
up where you are?
That's a very long story thatcan't be answered in one
(33:46):
question.
I'm originally from Montego Bay,Jamaica.
Born there and migrated to thestates.
When I was three or four yearsold, I was raised in Brooklyn,
New York.
For the majority of my life,went back to Jamaica to start
high school.
Did that first year and back toNew York.
I was, and I've been here eversince.
(34:07):
So, and how did I get to where Iam?
I am where I am now.
I don't know.
I don't know how to answer that.
That's a little vague, but Ibelieve so deeply about the
importance of.
My roots in the Caribbean, aswell as how I was raised here in
New York City, is the meltingpot of the world if you ask me.
(34:30):
That question is very whilespecific, vague in a way,
because I can't get that deep inone question, but that's me.
I love it.
Next.
Next question.
What is a green flag in peoplethat no one talks about enough?
That's a good one.
(34:50):
What is a green flag in peoplethat no one talks about enough?
I'm, I'm assuming green flagmean go.
You know how I feel about makingassumptions, so I'm being clear
about when or before I answer.
Uh, I really wanna sayauthenticity, but I think that's
too vague.
But to me, what's a green flagin people that isn't spoken
about enough is their energy,right?
(35:16):
You can meet someone in personand know immediately when after
two sentences, I don't reallywant to talk to you no more.
Or if I wanna lean in and get toknow you more and just, you
know, build on this connectionto become friends.
And I don't think people talkabout that enough.
I think because we live in sucha digital world, it's easily to
(35:40):
access people online that wehave forgotten how important and
essential people's energy are.
You can't hide bad energy.
In my perspective and it helpsyou with your discernment.
Having good discernment ispivotal and just like a muscle,
(36:01):
you gotta get out there and talkto people to keep it.
Yeah, in good standing.
I need a discernment.
Check it checkup.
Okay, next question.
If you could assign onemandatory class for every adult
on earth, what would it be?
I like these like.
(36:21):
Dear John, questions, in a way,they're so funny, so I wanna
read them again.
If you could assign onemandatory class for every adult
on earth, what would it be?
My first, I used to, I don'tknow if you're watching this on
YouTube, you saw my face, whichwas like my first reaction, but
(36:42):
I thought it was mean, but I'mgonna say it anyway.
My mandatory class would behygiene.
Okay.
Yeah.
You know.
Hygiene.
That would be my mandatoryclass, but that's a little bit
mean.
Let's try another one.
Communication.
I don't think everyone needs tobe a perfect communicator, but I
think it's important that you'reable to articulate how you feel
(37:04):
and your desired outcomes.
So that's a class that I wouldsay every adult should take the
ability to connect with oneanother.
What's one thing you thinkpeople pretend to enjoy but
secretly hate parties?
Oh, let's get into it Now.
This is a hot take that theygoing to eat my ass up about,
but I'm totally okay with it.
(37:24):
I think people pretend to loveparties and FETs.
That can be redundant, but theysecretly hate it because.
Some as someone who's from NewYork and I'm Caribbean mega
party in idea.
All right.
(37:45):
Some of them party here is soredundant.
The only thing different is thevenue and maybe hopefully three
or four people, but nine timesout of 10 outta seeing people in
a party, they playing the sameplaylist.
I think that's what irritates methe most.
(38:07):
To be fair, I don't wanna likesay this is like a DJ thing.
There is a handful of great DJsand you know it's their party.
You gonna have a good time.
You're not gonna hear the sameseven songs you heard last
party.
Because a lot of DJs juggle theexact same way.
They know the par, the songsthat's gonna get the crowd going
(38:28):
crazy.
Whatever.
But then there are other DJsthat really get in the crate, if
you know what I mean.
That's a real millennial vibes.
When I say get in the crate,'cause I mean, I don't even know
what I mean by the crate, but Imean, go deep in the playlist.
Not just play the hot jointsfrom now, the hot joints from
2000, but get deep in the crateand they pull the nineties, they
pull the eighties, they pullsongs from different genres.
(38:51):
That's a good party, that's agood time.
But a lot of these parties arevery redundant.
It's just like going to a venueto stand up and look at the
people you looked at two weeksago or last weekend.
It's weird.
So I think that's what peoplepretend to enjoy, that they
really don't, because sometimesit's not giving, it's not a
(39:14):
vibe, it's just something to do.
No thanks.
Next question.
If you woke up with 5 milliontax free tomorrow, what is your
first irresponsible pur?
What is your first irresponsiblepurchase?
You will make 5 million tax freewas my first irresponsible tax.
(39:36):
I don't know, I'm, I immediatelysaid property in my mind that's
really, if I'm honest, as I readit, I was like, Ooh, property.
But that's not reallyirresponsible.
I don't really, I'm not big onjewelry.
I love cute things, so maybeI'll build an additional closet
and just buy a lot of prettythings and put in there, maybe
some bags and stuff.
But that's really it.
I wouldn't, I don't know.
(39:59):
I like trips and pretty things.
I don't sorry.
Not that fun.
Um, what if the hill you wouldembarrassingly die on even if
everyone laughs at you?
There are so many.
That is such a vague question.
You gotta be more specific.
I'm willing to die on manyheels.
I'm okay.
If you could time travel for onehour.
(40:21):
Just to watch something withyour own eyes, what moment are
you choosing?
Oh, reading this question forthe first time, what immediately
came to mind was the moment mygrandparents meant, which kind
of makes me sad in a way.
But really, if I could timetravel, both my grandparents, my
(40:42):
maternal and paternalgrandparents, just because I
love my grandmothers dearly, Iwould love to be a fly on the
wall.
When they met their husbands andwhen they met them, just to see
like, you know, what they saidto them to like,'cause both my
grandmothers is cute as hell andfly as hell.
So I just always wanna be like,how did you bagg her?
(41:07):
I wanna know.
So, yeah.
Oh, that's sweet.
That was such a beautifulquestion.
'cause I didn't expect to thinkabout that, but I would love to
see the moments.
Clint Reed pulled up on LeneReed and the moment my
grandfather pulled up on la, um,sister Laura, that would've been
a moment.
(41:27):
Yeah, that would've been great.
I definitely wouldn't see that.
What is a sign you instantlyknow?
Someone has no self-awareness.
I don't know if I know it's asign.
I dunno if I know if there's asign.
I dunno if there's a sign, butthere are certain things that,
like earlier someone asked mefor green flags.
(41:48):
I have certain red flags that Iwon't necessarily list all of
them out, but someone's lack ofself-awareness is not reading
the room.
To me, that's that is weird asan adult to not be able to read
the room when you're talking tolike a group of people or you're
anywhere, it's very.
Odd when you can't read a room,but some people just don't
(42:10):
realize.
So I don't necessarily feel likeit's something to make them like
a bad person.
It's just growth at one point.
Sometimes I don't read the roomintentionally.
All right, Oh, I almost forgotrapid fire.
Okay, let's do rapid fire andthen we'll close out okay\ all
(42:37):
right.
Rapid fire.
Okay.
Here are rapid fire questionsoff the top of the dome.
I'm just asking.
What is one thing you refuse topretend to like anymore people?
I don't.
That's mean.
No, let's answer that for real.
What's one thing you refuse topretend to, like, I don't know.
(43:01):
Well, meals, I'm not a full meallover.
I do not like a whole heartymeal.
We go out to dinner.
I want apps and drinks andmostly dessert.
So I'm not gonna pretend to likemeals anymore.
How about that?
I don't like meals.
One thing the internet has madepeople delusional about, Hmm,
success clock it.
(43:23):
One thing you miss about who youused to be, the rawness, but I'm
glad I'm no longer that person.
'cause I felt like.
That was a bit mean, honestly.
Is love more choice or morechemistry?
I would say love is morechemistry because you need to
(43:43):
know someone energy.
Morals principle.
It's all about chemistry.
Hey boo.
Hi Omar.
Love you.
Uh, do you think loyalty isstill a real value in 2025?
Absolutely.
20 25, 20 50, 20 72, forever.
I definitely think there's somuch value in loyalty, but I
(44:04):
also think the way I defineloyalty can be very different
from how you define loyalty.
And it's important to clarifywhat loyalty means to not only
yourself, but the people youexpect to be loyal to.
Because sometimes, honestly,people don't expect loyalty.
They expect obedience.
(44:24):
Yeah.
I said it.
So they're sad.
Um, what's something you judgepeople for?
Quietly.
Hygiene.
Just, okay.
All right.
Uh, maybe I'm being a little toounfiltered, but seriously
though, they have perfumes andthings like, all right.
(44:50):
Who do you have to outgrow tobecome who you are?
Ooh.
I wouldn't say who I think Ihave to outgrow.
I don't think it's persondependent.
I do think it's situationaldependent.
I need to.
(45:10):
Outgrow the belief thateveryone, I don't necessarily
think everyone could come withme, but my expectation that
people could grow there.
I need to let that go, but it'sall right then it's coming to an
end.
That's when I wrap it up.
What is the most expensive formof denial?
Whoa, this is supposed to berapid fire.
That seems deep.
(45:31):
What is the most expensive formof denial?
Ignoring maybe.
That's a really good question.
I actually really love that.
I'm gonna be meddling on thatfor days.
What is the most expensive formof denial?
Pretending to not see whatyou've already seen.
I think that's very expensive,and honestly, anything that
(45:53):
costs you peace.
Too expensive and also thepursuit to find out what your
piece is.
I'm sorry.
I know this was supposed to beunfiltered and very like
lighthearted, but some of thesequestions are really deep and
I'm just, I'm never okay withaccepting other people's
bullshit for the sake of yourwellness.
(46:16):
In any space, form, anything.
So we could be talking about arecipe and you can be like, well
girl, you know, Billy likespeanuts, but you know, I might
have a little allergy.
Fuck Billy.
Fuck Billy.
Do not put that goddamn peanutin a recipe.
So I know it's getting deep,although it's rapid fire.
But I think these things areimportant.
(46:37):
I think being unapologeticallywho you are.
Does cost similarly to trying toconform to a version of you that
you're not.
So if you going, you gonna payon the front or you gonna pay on
the back how you wanna pay.
It's all right.
I'd rather pay on the back.
(46:57):
Me and Jesus is good.
Just speaking for myself here.
I'm, I'm good.
I'm good.
I'll take it.
I'll take it.
All right, last rapid fire.
Who is someone?
Everyone praises that you simplydon't get, Ooh, y'all really
want me to name people on thispodcast.
Who is someone everyone praisesthat I just don't get?
(47:23):
I would go with comedians'causeI actually love comedians and
there's certain comedians that Ireally love and there are other
comedians that I feel, ugh, thatI feel like.
Glorify ignorance and be like,okay, footie.
No, but I'm not gonna name hisnames, but it's a male comedian
and it's all I'll say next.
(47:44):
Anyway, so that's it.
The end of season three.
No bow tie, no bow on top, noinspirational, sendoff, no.
Join me next time with a smileand a fade out.
This season was aboutdefinitions and really putting a
stake in the ground.
Billing a pillar of my creativeuniverse, what it means, who
(48:08):
controls it.
What happens when we stopletting people in words define
our reality.
And if I'm honest, I'm walkingaway from this season so
different than any other season,especially so different than how
I started, because I let go ofthe belief that it needed X, Y,
(48:30):
and Z to be my vision.
I just invested in it myself.
Season four is coming.
We are still building, but it'sgoing to be very different
because each pillar in theuniverse feeds the other and
like many things in life.
We evaluate, we evolve, and wecontinue to move forward.
(48:54):
I hope this podcast helped youquestion your belief system, not
just what you were taught, buthow you would like to show up in
the world.
I believe that a lot of thelimitations that we have on
ourselves are.
Adopted from how people weretold you you should be.
(49:18):
How society told you.
You can only be acceptable to beall based on words.
So define your own life in a waythat works best for who you are
in this season.
'cause guess what?
Next season you might besomebody thoroughly different.
You hear me?
So thank you for listening tothis episode of Unfiltered.
How Do You Divine?
(49:40):
Not see you on the next one, butsee you next season.
Bye.
My daughter loves when I dothis, this makes my daughters
very happy.
Have a good one happy holidays.
See you in 2026 that's a wrap
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