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March 31, 2025 33 mins

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What if your AI could do more than just answer questions? In this episode, Måns Näsman shares a powerful new vision of “dualistic AI,” where multiple humans and AI agents collaborate in real time to solve bigger problems, scale communication, and build startups faster than ever before. Instead of relying on narrow, task-based AI tools, Måns explores how entrepreneurs and small teams can use collective intelligence to find customers, manage projects, and connect with entire ecosystems of people through one intelligent interface.

We talk about what this shift means for marketers, startup founders, civic organizations, and anyone looking to make a bigger impact with fewer resources. From AI-powered team building to real-time leadership updates and automated outreach that feels human, this conversation will challenge how you think about AI. If you’re ready to amplify your vision without losing the human connection, this one’s for you.

00:00 – Welcome & Human-First Foundations
Introducing Måns and the big question: What if AI could collaborate like humans?

01:30 – Dualistic vs. Individualistic AI
Why most AI tools are too narrow—and how dualistic AI connects people, not just tasks.

03:00 – How Multi-Agent AI Works in Practice
Using AI as your CRM, project manager, and recruiter—at the same time.

05:30 – Scaling Leadership and Culture with AI
How AI can bridge the communication gap between leaders and teams daily, not yearly.

07:00 – What’s Exciting in AI Right Now?
From AI job-hunters to massive SaaS growth in EdTech—entrepreneurial trends in 2025.

08:45 – Marketing + AI = Better Timing and Targeting
Matching messages with interest signals, and letting AI do outreach that feels human.

10:15 – AI for Governments, Communities & the Underserved
Using collective intelligence to solve big problems, not just sell more widgets.

12:00 – The Future of Trust, Teamwork, and AI Validation
Why the next leap in AI is about managing truth, trust, and collaboration at scale.

13:30 – Final Thoughts: What SMBs Should Be Thinking About Now
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