May 8, 2025 • 35 mins
Sharelle is joined by W.A.G.s to Riches star Porsha Berto to react to Tyreek and Keeta Hill's divorce rumors, navigating toxic relationships, and much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Get in my way, never out of my name.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
It's been like you one and the more one is
gonna be baby squad.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
What's up? What's up? What's up? Hey?
Speaker 2 (00:13):
I said? Oh, they cut on the intro. Where's my intro?
Go ahead, play the song again.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Sing it for me. We know, hey girl, you know
who can say? Don't I knew. I knew that. I
knew that. I knew.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Never mind, never mind, friend, I'm gonna get you know
before we get off this lot.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
I'm sick.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
What's up, guys, We are back. Ashley and Alexis are
out of town right now. They're handling business. So we
have our one and only that bitch good mom in
the building as a special guest, holding it down for
with us while Alexis and Ashley are taking care of business.
Our beautiful one and only missed Portia a bird all
(01:01):
thank you. I may throw her from wax riches. My my,
my dog, my top dog.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
I can't see your friend. You went away just caring
like that. Let me say, my little soft bloc. Oh, okay,
I'm back. I'm back. I'm back. You're back. Welcome, fir Shall.
We are so excited to have you here with us.
I'm so excited to be here.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
You know, this is like I don't know how long
it's gonna be, but this is time away from the
chaos that is my house. So if you hear screaming,
if you hear a little boy coming here talking about
beepe by body, doodlebody, if you hear something, I just
know I'm just upstairs toughed away.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Thank you. But that's not That's what it is. Good mom.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
I mean, you have to navigate through everything being a
boss farm and you know, trying to do everything, take
care of yourself, take care of your family, be a wife,
a mom, and.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
It's hard, but it's very hard.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
I don't understand how people expect for you to, you know,
make money and raise children and still be attractive and
work out and self care and go to church. I
don't know how people do all the things. I'm not
really sure. I don't know, but I'm working it out.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
I lost you again, friend, Oh, I know, I don't
know what's going on with my cameras.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
It's been a hater today, but we still don't you know,
navigate through this. How has everything bad set?
Speaker 1 (02:36):
What riches? Well? You know when the show came out.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
My baby was eight weeks old, so I was like
deep deep in the trenches of mammyhood.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
So I really.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
I don't think I left the house after the show
came out, Like we went to Turks, we did the party.
After that, I went home and I didn't leave for weeks.
And my first time leaving was my daughter his birthday
and I went to Disney World and somebody came up
to me. This girl was like, oh my god, my
husband recognized you. I love you on the show. And
I looked like I didn't know what the hell she
was talking about. I was like, what are you talking about, lady.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
I'm just like I completely like it just wasn't I
was like, oh my god, She's like, I'm going a picture.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
I was like, oh shit, it's my first little pick.
Like it was. It was a cute little.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Moment, but honestly, I just been raising these children. My
baby's five months almost six months now, so like I had, like,
I really haven't had a chance to slow down since
it came out. It's been a lot, girl, it's been
a year. Yeah, it's it's it's hard. It's a lot.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
How is it worth, you know, trying to you know, first,
it was always Andre who was getting all that attention
and everything because people may not know, but your husband
is a fashional retired boxer. Because if you wait, wait,
you get him.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
He's a two thousand and four Olympian, two time world champion.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
You got to give him his stuff because he gonna
text me like, why are you'll gonna play me like
I'm just old and washed?
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Right, right, So he's two thousand and four olympian and
two time world champion.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Let me say it before he comes with me. But yes,
he is retired, okay from boxing, not from business, but
from boxing.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
He's retired. Girl, he still get plenty more attention than me.
Them people love him.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
I know they love him, but how good? But it
was always the attention was always on him. Now that
you know you are on Netflix and you have spot
like have that spotlight as well?
Speaker 1 (04:50):
How was it? Was it like a shot or you know.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
We kind of just laugh about it, you know, we
kind of just makes this giggle a little bit because
he's like at you, and I'm like, I know, like
you just kind of laugh about it.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
But not much has changing to you. But y'alln't leave
the house you know, I don't go no damn where
like the crazy thing you export.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
You you're so talented, You're more talent to me, You're
more talented than your husband. You can sing, you can dance,
you know, you can add you can do it all
and you're amazing mother.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
So I feel like, you know, you need to put
away some of them. Humble, Yeah, that humble it out there.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
I mean, I will. I'm coming out of my newborn era.
I'm coming out the.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Bubble right now, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Like I'm back working, I'm back real estate. Like I'm back,
you know, I'm back doing the things. It just took
me a little time. You know, the third one is
taking me a little time. I had to get try
and get my body right, you know what I mean.
You can't walk outside looking crazy, but you gotta be fun.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
That's right, that's right.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
But we're gonna get into all that. We're gonna get
into all that. We wanted to do a quick introduction
of everything. But let's go into our first topic for today.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
It no ma'am, no ma'am, no ham no turkey. Have
you been you've been life?
Speaker 2 (06:11):
I mean, she's been here, you've been traveling. Are you
been traveling?
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Probably so much.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
I was in another country and I had to go
to the embassy to get any emergency passport because I
read out of.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Page Man not out of page it's humble brand. And
the countries to.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
I have other countries to visit while I was you know,
while I was traveling there, and they were like, you're
not going to be able to go, girl. They were like,
you're not going to be able to go to your
next destination until you go to the embassy. You go
to the embassy and you have to get your emergency passport.
So thank god I was able to what the hell
(06:58):
I was able through, I was able to take care
of that. So now I have another appointment tomorrow to
go to the past the Passport office in Miami to
get a full extended past sport so your.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Girl can continue on with her. I mean, that's what
I will say to you. And I say this to
you all the time. You know, I'll be checking in.
I'll be praying for my girl.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
I pray real hard for you, and I just pray
and all of your travels, whether you at, whatever you're doing.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Whatever's going on wrong.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
That you just you find a soft place to land
and that you're just covered and happy and appreciated and
just you know what I mean, Because I didn't.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
I prayed.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
I pray, you know, I pray for you, and I
just whatever you're doing, whereb you at, whoever you w
I just be like you know, I just I just
want my friend to be out of the fray, out
of the mess in somewhere just soft and because ain't
nothing friend, ain't nothing outside but but.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Houkah and done.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
It. That's it lamb chops, hookah, rossta pasta and scammers.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
And I said, Lord, don't do it. I just pray
whatever you do it in all your travels, you just
find a soft place to land.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
And I'm just you smiling, and I'm just I mean,
I'm just happy, that's all.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
I'm just happy to love you for you always want
the best for me. Oh I appreciate it. Ay, boys, friend,
I'm going to us on block today. We are talking
about our very own it's gonna lead into it, but
lavigating through a toxic breakup, break breaking up with the bullshit,
(08:55):
Oh god, yes, we're going Okay. So, I know a
lot of people have been saying that you know, our girl,
Chita Hill has been in the blogs, and it's not
for a good thing. Keita and Taar, you know, that'd
been going through a devastating break up and it's not
looking good. I don't like the fact that people are
trying to comfort her in regards to you know, Tarree
(09:18):
has cut off all funds allegedly from what you know,
the blogs are saying he basically cut off her debit
cards so she can't you know, access any funds anymore.
And people just reading the comments, it's like, well, you know,
I thought she made her own money. Blah blah blah
blah blah, this, that and the third and it's a
lot of women I don't like that. Well one I
(09:41):
didn't see that.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
I know when everything first happened, I think I told
you I reached out to her, and you know, she
was appreciative and she seemed like she was okay.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
She was just like, you know, it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
She was saying, hell, it was paparazzi outside her building,
and it was like it was a lot, you know
what I mean, for like days like it continued for
a while. So first and foremost, I just want to
say that I'm all for like family, if family.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Can work it out, If they can work it out, I.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Want that so badly for her, But if it doesn't,
you know what I mean, and.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
I just wish that.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
It's crazy because it's not even like they're on the
internet saying anything. They're not being messing back and forth,
they're not doing it. This is literally just like this
is the public, this is the people, the blogs and everything,
And I'm like, it'd be one thing if I felt
like she was pulling everybody into her business, but she's
really not even that type of girl, you know what
I mean. So it's just crazy to see how people
have like such weighted opinions about it. I don't know,
(10:42):
it's kind of mind blowing to see, I think, especially
the way they're going in on her, like I don't know,
I don't know, because I think people lack a lot
of empathy for anybody that they think that is in
a position of prominence.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
And you see it over and over and over again.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Anybody who has anything, any status, and he might anything.
It's like there's no grace at all, like they will
tell you to but it's not even that, it's not
even there. It's not even like they're going after the man.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
They're going after after her like it's her fault, Like
you can't help who you fall in love with. And
and people don't know the story or know what what
they've been through. So it's like instead of and I
get it too. I mean even with you know, my breakup,
when Chad and I broke up, it's like, you know,
they came after me, but they you don't know the story,
(11:31):
you don't know what you what what those two couples
went through, and it's like they developed their own opinion
and just you know, it's always the woman who always
get kicked at, and it's.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
It's not right, it's not that.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Do you think that's just because people just hold women
to a higher standard in general, like we're just supposed
to have all the sense, I mean, which I kind
of get.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
I just feel like they think that all you went after,
Like with Kita in the situation with her and the
bloss Oh, she just wanted him for his money. She
only got married just to get divorced to try to
get the money. That's all you see. It's always like, oh,
because they're making money because they're you know, a higher
profile individual.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
I think that's what it is. It's always assume it's
a money grind.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Yeah, so I don't know a ton about their relationship. O,
why do you know?
Speaker 1 (12:23):
What she told me?
Speaker 3 (12:23):
And you know, they had a long relationship and then
they broke up and she really went her way and
he went this way, and they really went over here,
and you know, I can't relate to that because that's
exactly what happened to be. We dated for all time,
seven eight years, and then we broke up for a
smooth year year and a half. I went this way,
he went that way, and he came back and got me.
(12:45):
And from what I gathered from what she told me,
which they don't show on the show, is the conversation
we had is that he really went.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Back and he he wanted said I.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Want my woman back, let's get married today tomorrow, let's
go and they and they did.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
But yeah, I don't know. People are crazy fucking people.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
But oh, it's it's like it's hard, especially being in
a high profile relationship. It's hard, like dealing with the breakup.
And I can speak, you know, speak on that because
I dealt with it. It's like you're in a public
relationship when you're happy. You got that breakup in a
public and it's ugly, but it's just like sometimes you
(13:28):
just want some type of brace, Like you just want
somebody to just, you know, ask you something like did
you feel any like any responsibility to publicly kind of
explain or give any explanation because your relationship, like you said,
all the happy stuff, was so public.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
And you know what I mean, like Chad, whatever, he'll
he'll prop you up, he'll put you right right here,
like you gonna just youre real like here, gonna do that, right?
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Did you feel any responsibility to get any type of
explanation or did you feel pressured to.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Kind of tell your side or you know what.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
I mean, Like when everything happened, and it was some
some days I wanted to because you get tired of
you know, speculation, Yeah, the speculations and everything, but it's
like why, you know, let's just move on.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
You know, we have a beautiful child together.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
We can call parent and let's just work through this,
you know, when it comes to co parenting. I know
people want to know, but you just have to. At
one point I felt like I had to tell my
side of the story. But it's like why it doesn't
mean it's not going to change anything. It's not so
just it's not just.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Kidd you know what happened.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
You know, he knows what happened, and God knows what
I mean, because the people who are rooting for you
are still very much like shake it back there, They
still very much on that vibe. And then the people
who was on there I told you so true before,
just waiting for something to happen, that the people still there,
they still say stuff.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
So you right, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
But I always wondered that though, like you know, if
if you felt like it would be disappointing for it
to not just to you and him, but just to like,
you know, the fan people supported y'all and said so
many kind things and like really kept up with y'all,
and you know, I mean they still can say kind
(15:28):
things and still support us as as we coparent through this.
I mean, Chad is an amazing father and you know,
I'm an amazing person.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
We just didn't work out, and that's what it is.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
I mean, you know, they can still support us and
don't have to choose sides because we didn't.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
You know, we still support each other at.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
The matter fact, they don't have to choose sides, but
they don't know what happened.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
For real is what it is. I mean, you know,
it just sucks.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
And I feel for Key that in regards to her
situation because she's going and having all the public people
trying to attack her and come with her. It's extra
crazy because she real quiet, she's like and she really
she gonna do it, just like Beyonce.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
My girl is Mom's the word.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
She ain't gonna say nothing, and I mean nothing, She's
gonna let that thing go. And I'll be like, girl,
you're made of type. Dang yeh, Because I would have
said to somebody it's a lot.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
It's a lot.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
So I think a lot of people go through this,
and even if they're not in her profile relationships, because
you still have.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
To think about it like just a regular couple.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
It's still public embarrassment because you have to go through
it with your family, your friends and everything. So maybe
we can help some people who are going through this.
And some of my questions I have, I know when
you went you have went through a break up with
before you and Andre got together got married, when y'all.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Was dating, do you believe people change after a toxic breakup.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
I don't know if y'all break up with toxic ours
was a little rough or do you think they just
rebrand themselves for the next person.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Gee, I think that. I think more often than not,
people rebrand themselves for the next person.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
That's what I think. I think that's what I kind
of did.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Like I'm trying to rebrand myself a little, especially after
the show came out, because it made it look like,
you know, I was going after Chat for his money.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
It was awkward, so won't like, listen, I don't know what.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Let's be clear, that was not you know, that was
not it in Chad knows that, like, you know, we
can fight some roles.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
But first of all, all my biggest thing.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Yupday, I was looking at it like, look at these
damn fools up here planning.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
If you look stop planning, these people fade. I got it.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
But because of that, you know, trying to be a
team player or whatever, I feel like I have to
rebrand myself because it made it look like I was
just this gold digger, you know, coming for Chad and
money and you know, trying to take everything.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
But that's not the case.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Well for me, my situation, I have to rebrand myself
and just show who.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
You really think that you have to rebred like I
just I don't know, maybe because I just I know
you in real life. So I just did not take
an ounce of it that serious. I'm serious, Like I
just I didn't even It took me so long to
even watch it because I remember talking to you about it.
I remember us getting ready together and then you go
and I gotta go do this, and then I talk
to you after. It just was not a big It
(19:01):
just wasn't a thing. And then I saw that and
I was like they playing.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
And immediately just.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Because you know it, but you actually feel like you
have to rebrand.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
I don't think that people think TV to another level.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
It's not like yourself for your next potential mates. I
don't my next no, because they want they gonna know
that's not not your life, that you're not about that,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (19:32):
That's need to tell five minutes.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
With you, and it's like you're literally the most generous
person in the world.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
I have to tell all the time.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Trust up, giving me ship, stop doing stuff, relax girl,
Like you know what I mean? Five minutes somebody's been
with you when they know that's that's not even what
you own at all.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
But I mean it's so bad.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
I got almost got cassed out because I was pulling
out my wallet and they let me.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Be a man like everybody.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
It wasn't, but I literally got cussed out.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
Like she will like fit back and relax and shell
An'll know what?
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Like I said, covered, okay, soft place to land. In totality,
You're covered. That's what I wish for you, and you will.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
My next question is how do you protect your mental
health during and after the breakup? O listen, alcohol was
a good at coping alcohol and traveling.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Where my Let me tell you. First of all, let
me see when.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Andre and I broke up for that that time, I
mean I was definitely a little line up, you know
what I mean. And I was working in the restaurant
at the time and they gave us free wine. I
was just slizard, just all the dawn, like I was
really in my feelings, fully drinking my feelings. And I
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did go to church a lot. I went to church
a lot, and then I went home and I was
on that bottle and it took me my best friends.
She used to leave me notes on the fridge, like
it's okay, You're gonna find love again.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
The sun comes out. Girl.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
I was so ooh, I was so pathetic. Oh girl,
I was a mess an absolute it was. It was horrendous,
It really was so but I got over its.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Six months thing gonna lote. It took about six to eight.
It took a little while after it. It took me
a while. Wait, we'll simmer chin wearing. It took me
about three and a half months, does it? I'm kidding.
(21:54):
I mean I'm not bully over.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
I mean, you know, you still have your moments like damn,
like this ship is also not wanted them to sit
around and cry anyway, but you know I'm a water bag.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
I will cry like that. So it's it's totally different.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
Like, you know, I wouldn't expect you to be sitting
around and your pj's in the feudal position for six months.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
But I'm no.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
The only time it hits me is when the kids
get involved. That's when it's but shit. We got our
own group chat. We planning trips and everything. So he
was like, you out the picture.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Like the kids. They was so sweet. They told me
the oldest one told me, I don't care.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
What what they got going on over there, but we're
still family.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Was talking to like the kids talking to each other,
and I was just, I'll shed.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
A technical like I'm like the bund that they have.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
It's just it's beautiful and they we are.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
I set out the pictures picture, but I can say
that when he and I broke, we didn't have any kids,
so it felt very final. It felt very I'm never
going to see this person ever again. And he lived
fifteen minutes away, and would you believe the for a
year and a half, I never saw him anywhere we lived.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
He lived in Hollywood, I lived in West Hollywood.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
We never saw each other ever, like ever, And that
was by design because the Lord knew if he would
have seen me in the streets, which my knees would
a buzzled, I would have been shambles. It would have
been bad. But it did take a toll on my
mental health. But it was also so necessary.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
I think that going through that stuff, those emotions, that's
just necessary for you, just as a as a woman.
I'm sure as a person, I don't I can't really
speak for men, but as a woman, you got to
go through that stuff because it just adds a different
layer to who you are, Like it just it changes
you. You become so introspective. If you're not introspective and you
(23:46):
don't change your mentality after or breakup like that, you know,
from a serious relationship, a marriage or whatever, then you
just didn't you didn't do the work. Like I used
to always think it was a red flag where like
I meet a guy and he's talked about his ex
or he can take no responsibility for what happened in
his relationship.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Everything is her fault, everything was I'm like, damn, ain't
change you at all. You can't take no credit, You
ain't did nothing wrong. Okay, that's a big red flag.
When when a man is talking or even a woman
like just talk about everything was their fault, their fault,
their fault, and there was no accountability on your end,
that is a red flag and the next person should
(24:27):
be aware of that. But you know, what they tend
to do, the new person, What they tend to do
is start hating the acts when they don't even know
what the situation is. And it's it's sad, but I
always when i'm you know, getting into something or even
when I'm getting out out of something. I don't speak
on my previous relationship. I never speak negative in regard
(24:48):
to it. There's nothing that you need to know about
what happened with us, but where else getting at?
Speaker 1 (24:54):
But you should you should pay attention to that.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
And when if somebody comes to me about in regard
to what they did or why they relationship did last,
my question is what was your problem?
Speaker 1 (25:06):
What did you do with your problem? Exactly? It can't
be all the other bird is? It never is?
Speaker 2 (25:13):
But then that's when you know you're dealing with a
man child who can't take accountability for anything, and who's
probably emotionally avoiding because he's just firing off about this
woman who's somewhere living her life.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
That's that's true.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
You gotta be careful a lot their friend scammers and rostapasta,
That's right.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
That's why I'm just enjoying life. I'm not getting into
any relationships, you know, I'm just kinda don't just travel regularly.
You travel like this, ooh traveling? You my FastPort for Betsy.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
I don't go get another fast sport because I cannot
deal with your humble bad easy is it?
Speaker 1 (26:00):
I can't deal with you any right down, let me stop.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Okay, Well, have you ever lost yourself in a relationship
and how did you find your way back?
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Still lost? Still fighting it? I'm kidding.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Yes, yes I have, And it's easy to do when
you're dealing with somebody who is.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
It has a large presence, high profile individual.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
I will say that that being a mom, I lost
myself in that and then I came back, and then
I lost it again and then I came back, you
know what I mean, Like that that happened easier than
the relationship thing. But I just feel like that's easy
to happen with anybody, with any woman, no matter what
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kind of guy you're dating, is because we're just like
we're hardwired to get into sacrifice, you know what I mean.
Like that's just we just always end up on that
side up and if you're not careful, you end up
giving a little bit too much. And it's not like
the is on the receiving end saying okay, now you're
getting me to stop.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Stop.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
No, you know they ain't. They ain't like you. They're
just taking it. They're just taking it.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
And women are just there with natural you know, nurtures,
natural pleasers like so we end up, you know, doing
things that the guy likes, taking on his hobbies, taking
on his lingo, you know, dressing a certain way because
he thinks this cue wearing our hair like it starts
like little shit.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
It'd be like, look like, well, damn, who was that?
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Who? You know what I mean, I think it happens.
I don't know any woman that it hasn't happened too. Honestly,
I'm my friends. I think it's happened to all of us.
It has, And I can say this. I actually had
a long call so one of my juanna you know,
we she was talking that down for me when I
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was going through everything, and I feel like I lost myself,
like towards the end of my relationship and then the
transition out of it, Like I basically shut.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Down when it came to my business.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
And I have so much stuff lined up, and it's like, girl,
you were you was that girl before this relationship, Like
snap your ass back out there because you got so much,
like God has blessed you with so many opportunities. And
it took my two close friends and my business partner
to say, listen, we've been holding it down.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
It's time to get yourself back together, like I had
accountability partners.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
And I'm truly blessed for my friends Juanna and Christina
because they they pulled me back in.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Like, look what you built. You had all this.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Before, Chad, Like, get yourself together. You have so many
people looking up for you. You're a whole developer. You
about to build town home something that you know a
lot of women have are not you know, into are
not doing like so many people look up to you.
Get yourself together and and let's get back on it, you.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Know what I mean? I was.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
I was like oho grew up to be. That was
a thing, you know what I mean. And when you
in the bubble, it's just safe. It's warm, you got
snacked nice, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
It's comfortable, it's your man like, it's you was in.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
It's okay, it's okay, and it's hard to like pull
out of it and readapt to get your identity back
by yourself.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
I ain't gonna sit here and say, you know, I
was holding it down by myself. When I was, I
was comfortable, I was safe, it was it was peace
during that time.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
But then when it time to transition. Now I ain't
get back.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
It was hard to Hey, I had my friend I
thank god I have one accountability had.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
So much to pick up, you know what I mean.
It was just like it almost like it's stacked up
too much on you.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
You know what I mean. So I mean you had
it back you doing your things, Christina, Yes, my girl talking.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
So the next did your friend groups support your decision
to leave or did you feel judged or staying too long?
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (30:19):
I'll never feel judged for doing nothing because all my
homegirls going to the same ship.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
That's the thing.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Like, nobody can judge anyone when it comes to a
relationship because they go through the same stuff when they're
in those shoes. That's why I understand why people be
out here yapping and typing up on Instagram when they
I hear, oh he cheated on you, young man over that.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
Sheet right now? And you oh what? No money? Like
stop it? Cut it out, because I'm gonna tell you this.
I have not I have not dated a lot of
men with money.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
I will say unfortunately, I used to have an affinity
for broken Wait wait, hold on, I did though, this
is true, not proud of it, but I did I'm
just the love is love like you just you make
me happy.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
This is great. Oh my god, your jobless? How look
at how creative you are? Like I was like, what
he used to drive your car?
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Bro?
Speaker 1 (31:25):
You know how to listen?
Speaker 3 (31:32):
What the point is whether they got whether they pinked up,
or he worked at the post office or he work
at the Hooters or the Hurts or the enterprise, they
gonna do what they do. You understand what I'm saying, Like,
it's not like this one, don't do it more because
he has this and this one. Know, if it's in
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you to do that, if you have no self control,
if you have no discipline, you're gonna cheat and you're
gonna be raggedy.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
It really doesn't matter, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
So it's just like when they see, you know, women
going through things or like you know, they make assumptions
about you and Chad and make assumptions about Quita and
and oh wait, I.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Told her he was gonna do this and he did, Like.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Girl, hush, you getting cheated on and he's dropped and
you come on now, like let's just keep it cute.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
So no, I don't ever feel judged.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
By anything because I mean the previous relationship. I call
it our previous relationship when it was giving situationship and
we were just immature and back and forth and doing
all of that mess. Like, I never felt judged about
any of that because I was going through the same
stuff everybody else was going through, just on a different scale.
(32:43):
You know, my makeups was a little bit better than
everybody else makeups. You know, I got vacations, but bit
ch ill was still crying. It's still the same he
was crying in that Bentley in a race.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
But yes, there were tears. There were tears.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
No, yeah, but you know what, that year and a
half fixed us right on up.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
And then y'all beautifully. Yeah, play them games.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Give a little advice for women navigating talks they break up.
Here's something like, don't say closure from chaos. You may
never get the apology, the clarity, or the explanation. Create
your own peace, Reclaim your narrative. You are not the
worst thing someone did to you. Reframe your story with
power and compassion.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Let me tell you how bad I am at breakups.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
And I'm gonna tell you why I'm bad at breakups,
And it could be I heard this is like a
scorpio trade.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
But I.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
Heard that there are people when they go through breakups,
some of them are just really impatient.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
And I'm one of those people.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Like, in my mind, if I want to break up
with you, I've already thought about it, like.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
It's this is months in the making.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
I've been like, I cannot deal with this shit, like
you are irking me bro like I want to break up. Well,
by the time I come to you and I tell
you I want to break up, it's like news to you.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
But then if you give me too much, I'm like,
oh my god, did you hear me? I'm done?
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Like I just get so impatient and kind of kind
of bitchy.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
And I'm not good at breakups. I'm I'm not good
at them. I'm not good at them.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
I don't think I've I ain't never had no smooth, amicable,
mature girl. All of my breakups was childish, every last
one of them. I think my breakup is childish. Ye,
it was a little childish, and it was a little childish.
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You have a little internet tussle, Oh lord
Speaker 1 (35:01):
We gonna get
Get in my way, never out of my name.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
It's been like you one and the more one is
gonna be baby squad.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
What's up? What's up? What's up? Hey?
Speaker 2 (00:13):
I said? Oh, they cut on the intro. Where's my intro?
Go ahead, play the song again.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Sing it for me. We know, hey girl, you know
who can say? Don't I knew. I knew that. I
knew that. I knew.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Never mind, never mind, friend, I'm gonna get you know
before we get off this lot.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
I'm sick.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
What's up, guys, We are back. Ashley and Alexis are
out of town right now. They're handling business. So we
have our one and only that bitch good mom in
the building as a special guest, holding it down for
with us while Alexis and Ashley are taking care of business.
Our beautiful one and only missed Portia a bird all
(01:01):
thank you. I may throw her from wax riches. My my,
my dog, my top dog.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
I can't see your friend. You went away just caring
like that. Let me say, my little soft bloc. Oh, okay,
I'm back. I'm back. I'm back. You're back. Welcome, fir Shall.
We are so excited to have you here with us.
I'm so excited to be here.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
You know, this is like I don't know how long
it's gonna be, but this is time away from the
chaos that is my house. So if you hear screaming,
if you hear a little boy coming here talking about
beepe by body, doodlebody, if you hear something, I just
know I'm just upstairs toughed away.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Thank you. But that's not That's what it is. Good mom.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
I mean, you have to navigate through everything being a
boss farm and you know, trying to do everything, take
care of yourself, take care of your family, be a wife,
a mom, and.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
It's hard, but it's very hard.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
I don't understand how people expect for you to, you know,
make money and raise children and still be attractive and
work out and self care and go to church. I
don't know how people do all the things. I'm not
really sure. I don't know, but I'm working it out.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
I lost you again, friend, Oh, I know, I don't
know what's going on with my cameras.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
It's been a hater today, but we still don't you know,
navigate through this. How has everything bad set?
Speaker 1 (02:36):
What riches? Well? You know when the show came out.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
My baby was eight weeks old, so I was like
deep deep in the trenches of mammyhood.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
So I really.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
I don't think I left the house after the show
came out, Like we went to Turks, we did the party.
After that, I went home and I didn't leave for weeks.
And my first time leaving was my daughter his birthday
and I went to Disney World and somebody came up
to me. This girl was like, oh my god, my
husband recognized you. I love you on the show. And
I looked like I didn't know what the hell she
was talking about. I was like, what are you talking about, lady.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
I'm just like I completely like it just wasn't I
was like, oh my god, She's like, I'm going a picture.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
I was like, oh shit, it's my first little pick.
Like it was. It was a cute little.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Moment, but honestly, I just been raising these children. My
baby's five months almost six months now, so like I had, like,
I really haven't had a chance to slow down since
it came out. It's been a lot, girl, it's been
a year. Yeah, it's it's it's hard. It's a lot.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
How is it worth, you know, trying to you know, first,
it was always Andre who was getting all that attention
and everything because people may not know, but your husband
is a fashional retired boxer. Because if you wait, wait,
you get him.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
He's a two thousand and four Olympian, two time world champion.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
You got to give him his stuff because he gonna
text me like, why are you'll gonna play me like
I'm just old and washed?
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Right, right, So he's two thousand and four olympian and
two time world champion.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Let me say it before he comes with me. But yes,
he is retired, okay from boxing, not from business, but
from boxing.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
He's retired. Girl, he still get plenty more attention than me.
Them people love him.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
I know they love him, but how good? But it
was always the attention was always on him. Now that
you know you are on Netflix and you have spot
like have that spotlight as well?
Speaker 1 (04:50):
How was it? Was it like a shot or you know.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
We kind of just laugh about it, you know, we
kind of just makes this giggle a little bit because
he's like at you, and I'm like, I know, like
you just kind of laugh about it.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
But not much has changing to you. But y'alln't leave
the house you know, I don't go no damn where
like the crazy thing you export.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
You you're so talented, You're more talent to me, You're
more talented than your husband. You can sing, you can dance,
you know, you can add you can do it all
and you're amazing mother.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
So I feel like, you know, you need to put
away some of them. Humble, Yeah, that humble it out there.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
I mean, I will. I'm coming out of my newborn era.
I'm coming out the.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Bubble right now, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Like I'm back working, I'm back real estate. Like I'm back,
you know, I'm back doing the things. It just took
me a little time. You know, the third one is
taking me a little time. I had to get try
and get my body right, you know what I mean.
You can't walk outside looking crazy, but you gotta be fun.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
That's right, that's right.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
But we're gonna get into all that. We're gonna get
into all that. We wanted to do a quick introduction
of everything. But let's go into our first topic for today.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
It no ma'am, no ma'am, no ham no turkey. Have
you been you've been life?
Speaker 2 (06:11):
I mean, she's been here, you've been traveling. Are you
been traveling?
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Probably so much.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
I was in another country and I had to go
to the embassy to get any emergency passport because I
read out of.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Page Man not out of page it's humble brand. And
the countries to.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
I have other countries to visit while I was you know,
while I was traveling there, and they were like, you're
not going to be able to go, girl. They were like,
you're not going to be able to go to your
next destination until you go to the embassy. You go
to the embassy and you have to get your emergency passport.
So thank god I was able to what the hell
(06:58):
I was able through, I was able to take care
of that. So now I have another appointment tomorrow to
go to the past the Passport office in Miami to
get a full extended past sport so your.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Girl can continue on with her. I mean, that's what
I will say to you. And I say this to
you all the time. You know, I'll be checking in.
I'll be praying for my girl.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
I pray real hard for you, and I just pray
and all of your travels, whether you at, whatever you're doing.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Whatever's going on wrong.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
That you just you find a soft place to land
and that you're just covered and happy and appreciated and
just you know what I mean, Because I didn't.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
I prayed.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
I pray, you know, I pray for you, and I
just whatever you're doing, whereb you at, whoever you w
I just be like you know, I just I just
want my friend to be out of the fray, out
of the mess in somewhere just soft and because ain't
nothing friend, ain't nothing outside but but.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
Houkah and done.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
It. That's it lamb chops, hookah, rossta pasta and scammers.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
And I said, Lord, don't do it. I just pray
whatever you do it in all your travels, you just
find a soft place to land.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
And I'm just you smiling, and I'm just I mean,
I'm just happy, that's all.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
I'm just happy to love you for you always want
the best for me. Oh I appreciate it. Ay, boys, friend,
I'm going to us on block today. We are talking
about our very own it's gonna lead into it, but
lavigating through a toxic breakup, break breaking up with the bullshit,
(08:55):
Oh god, yes, we're going Okay. So, I know a
lot of people have been saying that you know, our girl,
Chita Hill has been in the blogs, and it's not
for a good thing. Keita and Taar, you know, that'd
been going through a devastating break up and it's not
looking good. I don't like the fact that people are
trying to comfort her in regards to you know, Tarree
(09:18):
has cut off all funds allegedly from what you know,
the blogs are saying he basically cut off her debit
cards so she can't you know, access any funds anymore.
And people just reading the comments, it's like, well, you know,
I thought she made her own money. Blah blah blah
blah blah, this, that and the third and it's a
lot of women I don't like that. Well one I
(09:41):
didn't see that.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
I know when everything first happened, I think I told
you I reached out to her, and you know, she
was appreciative and she seemed like she was okay.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
She was just like, you know, it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
She was saying, hell, it was paparazzi outside her building,
and it was like it was a lot, you know
what I mean, for like days like it continued for
a while. So first and foremost, I just want to
say that I'm all for like family, if family.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Can work it out, If they can work it out, I.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Want that so badly for her, But if it doesn't,
you know what I mean, and.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
I just wish that.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
It's crazy because it's not even like they're on the
internet saying anything. They're not being messing back and forth,
they're not doing it. This is literally just like this
is the public, this is the people, the blogs and everything,
And I'm like, it'd be one thing if I felt
like she was pulling everybody into her business, but she's
really not even that type of girl, you know what
I mean. So it's just crazy to see how people
have like such weighted opinions about it. I don't know,
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it's kind of mind blowing to see, I think, especially
the way they're going in on her, like I don't know,
I don't know, because I think people lack a lot
of empathy for anybody that they think that is in
a position of prominence.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
And you see it over and over and over again.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Anybody who has anything, any status, and he might anything.
It's like there's no grace at all, like they will
tell you to but it's not even that, it's not
even there. It's not even like they're going after the man.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
They're going after after her like it's her fault, Like
you can't help who you fall in love with. And
and people don't know the story or know what what
they've been through. So it's like instead of and I
get it too. I mean even with you know, my breakup,
when Chad and I broke up, it's like, you know,
they came after me, but they you don't know the story,
(11:31):
you don't know what you what what those two couples
went through, and it's like they developed their own opinion
and just you know, it's always the woman who always
get kicked at, and it's.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
It's not right, it's not that.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Do you think that's just because people just hold women
to a higher standard in general, like we're just supposed
to have all the sense, I mean, which I kind
of get.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
I just feel like they think that all you went after,
Like with Kita in the situation with her and the
bloss Oh, she just wanted him for his money. She
only got married just to get divorced to try to
get the money. That's all you see. It's always like, oh,
because they're making money because they're you know, a higher
profile individual.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
I think that's what it is. It's always assume it's
a money grind.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Yeah, so I don't know a ton about their relationship. O,
why do you know?
Speaker 1 (12:23):
What she told me?
Speaker 3 (12:23):
And you know, they had a long relationship and then
they broke up and she really went her way and
he went this way, and they really went over here,
and you know, I can't relate to that because that's
exactly what happened to be. We dated for all time,
seven eight years, and then we broke up for a
smooth year year and a half. I went this way,
he went that way, and he came back and got me.
(12:45):
And from what I gathered from what she told me,
which they don't show on the show, is the conversation
we had is that he really went.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Back and he he wanted said I.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Want my woman back, let's get married today tomorrow, let's
go and they and they did.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
But yeah, I don't know. People are crazy fucking people.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
But oh, it's it's like it's hard, especially being in
a high profile relationship. It's hard, like dealing with the breakup.
And I can speak, you know, speak on that because
I dealt with it. It's like you're in a public
relationship when you're happy. You got that breakup in a
public and it's ugly, but it's just like sometimes you
(13:28):
just want some type of brace, Like you just want
somebody to just, you know, ask you something like did
you feel any like any responsibility to publicly kind of
explain or give any explanation because your relationship, like you said,
all the happy stuff, was so public.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
And you know what I mean, like Chad, whatever, he'll
he'll prop you up, he'll put you right right here,
like you gonna just youre real like here, gonna do that, right?
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Did you feel any responsibility to get any type of
explanation or did you feel pressured to.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Kind of tell your side or you know what.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
I mean, Like when everything happened, and it was some
some days I wanted to because you get tired of
you know, speculation, Yeah, the speculations and everything, but it's
like why, you know, let's just move on.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
You know, we have a beautiful child together.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
We can call parent and let's just work through this,
you know, when it comes to co parenting. I know
people want to know, but you just have to. At
one point I felt like I had to tell my
side of the story. But it's like why it doesn't
mean it's not going to change anything. It's not so
just it's not just.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Kidd you know what happened.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
You know, he knows what happened, and God knows what
I mean, because the people who are rooting for you
are still very much like shake it back there, They
still very much on that vibe. And then the people
who was on there I told you so true before,
just waiting for something to happen, that the people still there,
they still say stuff.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
So you right, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
But I always wondered that though, like you know, if
if you felt like it would be disappointing for it
to not just to you and him, but just to like,
you know, the fan people supported y'all and said so
many kind things and like really kept up with y'all,
and you know, I mean they still can say kind
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things and still support us as as we coparent through this.
I mean, Chad is an amazing father and you know,
I'm an amazing person.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
We just didn't work out, and that's what it is.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
I mean, you know, they can still support us and
don't have to choose sides because we didn't.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
You know, we still support each other at.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
The matter fact, they don't have to choose sides, but
they don't know what happened.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
For real is what it is. I mean, you know,
it just sucks.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
And I feel for Key that in regards to her
situation because she's going and having all the public people
trying to attack her and come with her. It's extra
crazy because she real quiet, she's like and she really
she gonna do it, just like Beyonce.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
My girl is Mom's the word.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
She ain't gonna say nothing, and I mean nothing, She's
gonna let that thing go. And I'll be like, girl,
you're made of type. Dang yeh, Because I would have
said to somebody it's a lot.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
It's a lot.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
So I think a lot of people go through this,
and even if they're not in her profile relationships, because
you still have.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
To think about it like just a regular couple.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
It's still public embarrassment because you have to go through
it with your family, your friends and everything. So maybe
we can help some people who are going through this.
And some of my questions I have, I know when
you went you have went through a break up with
before you and Andre got together got married, when y'all.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Was dating, do you believe people change after a toxic breakup.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
I don't know if y'all break up with toxic ours
was a little rough or do you think they just
rebrand themselves for the next person.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Gee, I think that. I think more often than not,
people rebrand themselves for the next person.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
That's what I think. I think that's what I kind
of did.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Like I'm trying to rebrand myself a little, especially after
the show came out, because it made it look like,
you know, I was going after Chat for his money.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
It was awkward, so won't like, listen, I don't know what.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Let's be clear, that was not you know, that was
not it in Chad knows that, like, you know, we
can fight some roles.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
But first of all, all my biggest thing.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Yupday, I was looking at it like, look at these
damn fools up here planning.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
If you look stop planning, these people fade. I got it.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
But because of that, you know, trying to be a
team player or whatever, I feel like I have to
rebrand myself because it made it look like I was
just this gold digger, you know, coming for Chad and
money and you know, trying to take everything.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
But that's not the case.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Well for me, my situation, I have to rebrand myself
and just show who.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
You really think that you have to rebred like I
just I don't know, maybe because I just I know
you in real life. So I just did not take
an ounce of it that serious. I'm serious, Like I
just I didn't even It took me so long to
even watch it because I remember talking to you about it.
I remember us getting ready together and then you go
and I gotta go do this, and then I talk
to you after. It just was not a big It
(19:01):
just wasn't a thing. And then I saw that and
I was like they playing.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
And immediately just.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Because you know it, but you actually feel like you
have to rebrand.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
I don't think that people think TV to another level.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
It's not like yourself for your next potential mates. I
don't my next no, because they want they gonna know
that's not not your life, that you're not about that,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (19:32):
That's need to tell five minutes.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
With you, and it's like you're literally the most generous
person in the world.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
I have to tell all the time.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Trust up, giving me ship, stop doing stuff, relax girl,
Like you know what I mean? Five minutes somebody's been
with you when they know that's that's not even what
you own at all.
Speaker 1 (19:51):
But I mean it's so bad.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
I got almost got cassed out because I was pulling
out my wallet and they let me.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Be a man like everybody.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
It wasn't, but I literally got cussed out.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
Like she will like fit back and relax and shell
An'll know what?
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Like I said, covered, okay, soft place to land. In totality,
You're covered. That's what I wish for you, and you will.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
My next question is how do you protect your mental
health during and after the breakup? O listen, alcohol was
a good at coping alcohol and traveling.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
Where my Let me tell you. First of all, let
me see when.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Andre and I broke up for that that time, I
mean I was definitely a little line up, you know
what I mean. And I was working in the restaurant
at the time and they gave us free wine. I
was just slizard, just all the dawn, like I was
really in my feelings, fully drinking my feelings. And I
(21:04):
did go to church a lot. I went to church
a lot, and then I went home and I was
on that bottle and it took me my best friends.
She used to leave me notes on the fridge, like
it's okay, You're gonna find love again.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
The sun comes out. Girl.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
I was so ooh, I was so pathetic. Oh girl,
I was a mess an absolute it was. It was horrendous,
It really was so but I got over its.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Six months thing gonna lote. It took about six to eight.
It took a little while after it. It took me
a while. Wait, we'll simmer chin wearing. It took me
about three and a half months, does it? I'm kidding.
(21:54):
I mean I'm not bully over.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
I mean, you know, you still have your moments like damn,
like this ship is also not wanted them to sit
around and cry anyway, but you know I'm a water bag.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
I will cry like that. So it's it's totally different.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
Like, you know, I wouldn't expect you to be sitting
around and your pj's in the feudal position for six months.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
But I'm no.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
The only time it hits me is when the kids
get involved. That's when it's but shit. We got our
own group chat. We planning trips and everything. So he
was like, you out the picture.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
Like the kids. They was so sweet. They told me
the oldest one told me, I don't care.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
What what they got going on over there, but we're
still family.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Was talking to like the kids talking to each other,
and I was just, I'll shed.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
A technical like I'm like the bund that they have.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
It's just it's beautiful and they we are.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
I set out the pictures picture, but I can say
that when he and I broke, we didn't have any kids,
so it felt very final. It felt very I'm never
going to see this person ever again. And he lived
fifteen minutes away, and would you believe the for a
year and a half, I never saw him anywhere we lived.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
He lived in Hollywood, I lived in West Hollywood.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
We never saw each other ever, like ever, And that
was by design because the Lord knew if he would
have seen me in the streets, which my knees would
a buzzled, I would have been shambles. It would have
been bad. But it did take a toll on my
mental health. But it was also so necessary.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
I think that going through that stuff, those emotions, that's
just necessary for you, just as a as a woman.
I'm sure as a person, I don't I can't really
speak for men, but as a woman, you got to
go through that stuff because it just adds a different
layer to who you are, Like it just it changes
you. You become so introspective. If you're not introspective and you
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don't change your mentality after or breakup like that, you know,
from a serious relationship, a marriage or whatever, then you
just didn't you didn't do the work. Like I used
to always think it was a red flag where like
I meet a guy and he's talked about his ex
or he can take no responsibility for what happened in
his relationship.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Everything is her fault, everything was I'm like, damn, ain't
change you at all. You can't take no credit, You
ain't did nothing wrong. Okay, that's a big red flag.
When when a man is talking or even a woman
like just talk about everything was their fault, their fault,
their fault, and there was no accountability on your end,
that is a red flag and the next person should
(24:27):
be aware of that. But you know, what they tend
to do, the new person, What they tend to do
is start hating the acts when they don't even know
what the situation is. And it's it's sad, but I
always when i'm you know, getting into something or even
when I'm getting out out of something. I don't speak
on my previous relationship. I never speak negative in regard
(24:48):
to it. There's nothing that you need to know about
what happened with us, but where else getting at?
Speaker 1 (24:54):
But you should you should pay attention to that.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
And when if somebody comes to me about in regard
to what they did or why they relationship did last,
my question is what was your problem?
Speaker 1 (25:06):
What did you do with your problem? Exactly? It can't
be all the other bird is? It never is?
Speaker 2 (25:13):
But then that's when you know you're dealing with a
man child who can't take accountability for anything, and who's
probably emotionally avoiding because he's just firing off about this
woman who's somewhere living her life.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
That's that's true.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
You gotta be careful a lot their friend scammers and rostapasta,
That's right.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
That's why I'm just enjoying life. I'm not getting into
any relationships, you know, I'm just kinda don't just travel regularly.
You travel like this, ooh traveling? You my FastPort for Betsy.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
I don't go get another fast sport because I cannot
deal with your humble bad easy is it?
Speaker 1 (26:00):
I can't deal with you any right down, let me stop.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Okay, Well, have you ever lost yourself in a relationship
and how did you find your way back?
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Still lost? Still fighting it? I'm kidding.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Yes, yes I have, And it's easy to do when
you're dealing with somebody who is.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
It has a large presence, high profile individual.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
I will say that that being a mom, I lost
myself in that and then I came back, and then
I lost it again and then I came back, you
know what I mean, Like that that happened easier than
the relationship thing. But I just feel like that's easy
to happen with anybody, with any woman, no matter what
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kind of guy you're dating, is because we're just like
we're hardwired to get into sacrifice, you know what I mean.
Like that's just we just always end up on that
side up and if you're not careful, you end up
giving a little bit too much. And it's not like
the is on the receiving end saying okay, now you're
getting me to stop.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Stop.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
No, you know they ain't. They ain't like you. They're
just taking it. They're just taking it.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
And women are just there with natural you know, nurtures,
natural pleasers like so we end up, you know, doing
things that the guy likes, taking on his hobbies, taking
on his lingo, you know, dressing a certain way because
he thinks this cue wearing our hair like it starts
like little shit.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
It'd be like, look like, well, damn, who was that?
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Who? You know what I mean, I think it happens.
I don't know any woman that it hasn't happened too. Honestly,
I'm my friends. I think it's happened to all of us.
It has, And I can say this. I actually had
a long call so one of my juanna you know,
we she was talking that down for me when I
(28:00):
was going through everything, and I feel like I lost myself,
like towards the end of my relationship and then the
transition out of it, Like I basically shut.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Down when it came to my business.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
And I have so much stuff lined up, and it's like, girl,
you were you was that girl before this relationship, Like
snap your ass back out there because you got so much,
like God has blessed you with so many opportunities. And
it took my two close friends and my business partner
to say, listen, we've been holding it down.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
It's time to get yourself back together, like I had
accountability partners.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
And I'm truly blessed for my friends Juanna and Christina
because they they pulled me back in.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Like, look what you built. You had all this.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Before, Chad, Like, get yourself together. You have so many
people looking up for you. You're a whole developer. You
about to build town home something that you know a
lot of women have are not you know, into are
not doing like so many people look up to you.
Get yourself together and and let's get back on it, you.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Know what I mean? I was.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
I was like oho grew up to be. That was
a thing, you know what I mean. And when you
in the bubble, it's just safe. It's warm, you got
snacked nice, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
It's comfortable, it's your man like, it's you was in.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
It's okay, it's okay, and it's hard to like pull
out of it and readapt to get your identity back
by yourself.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
I ain't gonna sit here and say, you know, I
was holding it down by myself. When I was, I
was comfortable, I was safe, it was it was peace
during that time.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
But then when it time to transition. Now I ain't
get back.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
It was hard to Hey, I had my friend I
thank god I have one accountability had.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
So much to pick up, you know what I mean.
It was just like it almost like it's stacked up
too much on you.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
You know what I mean. So I mean you had
it back you doing your things, Christina, Yes, my girl talking.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
So the next did your friend groups support your decision
to leave or did you feel judged or staying too long?
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (30:19):
I'll never feel judged for doing nothing because all my
homegirls going to the same ship.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
That's the thing.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Like, nobody can judge anyone when it comes to a
relationship because they go through the same stuff when they're
in those shoes. That's why I understand why people be
out here yapping and typing up on Instagram when they
I hear, oh he cheated on you, young man over that.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
Sheet right now? And you oh what? No money? Like
stop it? Cut it out, because I'm gonna tell you this.
I have not I have not dated a lot of
men with money.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
I will say unfortunately, I used to have an affinity
for broken Wait wait, hold on, I did though, this
is true, not proud of it, but I did I'm
just the love is love like you just you make
me happy.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
This is great. Oh my god, your jobless? How look
at how creative you are? Like I was like, what
he used to drive your car?
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Bro?
Speaker 1 (31:25):
You know how to listen?
Speaker 3 (31:32):
What the point is whether they got whether they pinked up,
or he worked at the post office or he work
at the Hooters or the Hurts or the enterprise, they
gonna do what they do. You understand what I'm saying, Like,
it's not like this one, don't do it more because
he has this and this one. Know, if it's in
(31:53):
you to do that, if you have no self control,
if you have no discipline, you're gonna cheat and you're
gonna be raggedy.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
It really doesn't matter, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
So it's just like when they see, you know, women
going through things or like you know, they make assumptions
about you and Chad and make assumptions about Quita and
and oh wait, I.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Told her he was gonna do this and he did, Like.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Girl, hush, you getting cheated on and he's dropped and
you come on now, like let's just keep it cute.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
So no, I don't ever feel judged.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
By anything because I mean the previous relationship. I call
it our previous relationship when it was giving situationship and
we were just immature and back and forth and doing
all of that mess. Like, I never felt judged about
any of that because I was going through the same
stuff everybody else was going through, just on a different scale.
(32:43):
You know, my makeups was a little bit better than
everybody else makeups. You know, I got vacations, but bit
ch ill was still crying. It's still the same he
was crying in that Bentley in a race.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
But yes, there were tears. There were tears.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
No, yeah, but you know what, that year and a
half fixed us right on up.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
And then y'all beautifully. Yeah, play them games.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Give a little advice for women navigating talks they break up.
Here's something like, don't say closure from chaos. You may
never get the apology, the clarity, or the explanation. Create
your own peace, Reclaim your narrative. You are not the
worst thing someone did to you. Reframe your story with
power and compassion.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Let me tell you how bad I am at breakups.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
And I'm gonna tell you why I'm bad at breakups,
And it could be I heard this is like a
scorpio trade.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
But I.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
Heard that there are people when they go through breakups,
some of them are just really impatient.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
And I'm one of those people.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Like, in my mind, if I want to break up
with you, I've already thought about it, like.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
It's this is months in the making.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
I've been like, I cannot deal with this shit, like
you are irking me bro like I want to break up. Well,
by the time I come to you and I tell
you I want to break up, it's like news to you.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
But then if you give me too much, I'm like,
oh my god, did you hear me? I'm done?
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Like I just get so impatient and kind of kind
of bitchy.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
And I'm not good at breakups. I'm I'm not good
at them. I'm not good at them.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
I don't think I've I ain't never had no smooth, amicable,
mature girl. All of my breakups was childish, every last
one of them. I think my breakup is childish. Ye,
it was a little childish, and it was a little childish.
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You have a little internet tussle, Oh lord
Speaker 1 (35:01):
We gonna get
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