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Welcome to Brolaps, the fisting podcast that goes deep explore
my life, views and raw, unfiltered conversations with
the creators that are redefiningkink connection in the fisting
community. Hey guys, welcome back to
another episode of Brolaps and today I am super stoked.
We have a actual friend of mine on the show today.
We've known each other for it feels like like probably 5 or 6
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years or so now at this. Point it's hard because we knew
each other before COVID and theykind of like put everything like
a pause like because everyone knows.
So it's hard to be like, wait, was it 4 years?
Was it 5 years? Yeah, I know, I know.
And I've known you through many and several iterations like
Scruffy Muscle and Ian Sterling.So I feel like I've watched you
to kind of evolve over the last couple years, which has been.
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Strong. I think muscle just kind of
started because I mean, obviously it fits and I see like
a Twitter handle because, you know, I wasn't thinking of doing
anything big with it and then kind of snowballed.
And then when I started doing more studio things, like they
were like, we're not going to call you scruffy muscle.
You're not going to it's going to be so muscle like.
So what's your name? Like when I escorted, that was
just my name I used for Ian Sterling.
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So he's supposed to go. Yeah, sweet.
And you were like all over Mr. S, the advertisements for Mr. S
and stuff too, right? Yeah, because I lived in San
Francisco at the time and my partner didn't like, because I
was doing nude photo shoots for like artistic things for longest
time before I met him. And then we started dating him.
He was like, absolutely no more nude things.
You just cannot do those. I don't want my boyfriend doing
that. And I said, OK, you know, that's
what I give up for this relationship.
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That's fine. But I still, I said it should go
do photo shoots. And obviously, you know, I'm a
leather guy. So I was very well known with
Mr. Nicoli, who's the house photographer at the time.
He was like, hey, you know, we're doing a lot of product
shots, you know, would you be interested?
And it was one thing that my partner at the time approved of,
even though she got really upsetabout it.
I mean, it's Mr. S it's not likeporn, but it's still like.
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It wasn't like doing like test product shots with like dildos
or anything. It was like me and leather me
and you know, I just. Remember walking in and seeing
you on the banners in the store and stuff like that and I was.
Like, yeah, it's been like 5-6 years and every time there's
like a IML or Folsom or Dory, I get inundated with people being
like, hey, you're still here. Yeah, you're still in in spirit.
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That's awesome. Well, so I noticed I was looking
through your Twitter feed or your X feed and I saw that you I
have a long history with Raging Stallion.
I was very excited to see you work with Raging Stallion.
The the the trailer that I saw forget a grip looked really
intense and really cool. So what was it like filming that
kind of no holds barred scene with so many busted holes
involved? So any behind the scenes chaos
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that we didn't see in the in thevideo?
Well, so they actually broke up in two different sections.
Well, for kind of so there was me and Bobby and there was the
other two. So it was like, what you because
the whole premise was they're shooting a scene and then like
what happens after the scene with the grips that you clean up
the space? Actually.
Wasn't involved at all with the second-half.
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It was just me and Bobby doing our thing and then there was
like him facing me and then it was me facing him.
So it kind of broke into fours. Although I actually haven't even
seen the second-half so I don't know.
But it was definitely a change because I was so used to doing
stud fist where it's or, you know, content where it's kind of
like you're doing your thing andthen the camera goes around you
or you hire a photographer or something, right?
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The difference was like it was hard to find the rhythm because,
you know, you would get rolling and then they oh, wait, hold on,
cut. We set light.
Do the gamble. We have to get from this angle
or, you know, say the flow wasn't there.
It was still very hot to do. Do not get it wrong.
I enjoyed every second of it. Yeah, it was a lot longer to
shoot days. And I'm not I'm not a marathon,
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Fester. I love to just like get in, get
banged out, you know? Yeah, I'm a puncher.
So for me, so the fact I had to like pace myself and really kind
of not go as hardcore as I wouldusually frown personal fisting,
that was also a little of a change and some of the positions
were not comfortable. No.
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Man, they're so hot, but like like leaning back and then like
trying to get underneath. It was not, it looked great.
It looked fantastic but it was not the most like comfortable
scene to do. Yeah, that's the thing with
studio porn is that it's like directed.
It's directed and so but and they make it look good, but it's
not necessarily always super comfortable.
For example, for me, I remember doing a shoot with Nate Grimes
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and I don't know about you, but do you 69 fists in real life?
It's doable. It's harder for me because I'm
not very limber in general, so let me to get certain angles a
little difficult. Just feel 69 fisting is so only
done for porno. It's one of those things that it
looks really cool on camera, butpractically it's it's sort of
awkward. It's just sort of, but it looks
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there's certain things that are great for just content purposes
or for play purposes. And then they do the theatrical
positions for studio porn. I will say there was one time I
was at a party in LA, it was like a warehouse party and like
they had a playroom and me and my friend Hunter went with like
full intention to fix each otherbecause like it's just fun to do
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it in public like that. We found like a they had like a
park bench and we somehow like twisted ourselves to get each
other in each other's holes. And we tried to replicate it one
time and we just couldn't figureout how we twisted our bodies in
this pretzel to get inside each other.
That's. Actually like, yeah.
And also like when I'm fisting, whether I'm topping or
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bottoming, I love to be able to focus.
But like it will never do poppers as a top because, you
know, I don't want to be in a weird space for the bottom
because like it's their time, you know, they want to pop her
out or, you know, do any drugs or anything like that's that's
on. That's their time to do what
they need to be in that space. And I don't want to think about
me because it's not my turn to be focused on.
So I. Know.
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Having to split my attention into breathing and getting in
the headspace to bottom but alsotaking care of the bottom.
It's it's not where I need to be, so I, I.
Just don't annoying as a bottom to have to feed the top poppers
every 5 minutes. I'm like stop it, pay attention
to me. Well that's cool.
I didn't realize that that Get agrip was I.
I guess I should have done my homework a little bit more, but
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I didn't realize it was about the grip aspect of because the
last time I've worked with a grip was when I worked at Raging
Stallion in 2008. It's been that long.
So I just do everything content style, I guess the same way Stud
Fist does it where they just have a single camera person.
I'm guessing, right. So yeah, that's, that's that's
wild. I don't miss those long days.
Well, I think it's going into it.
I was fully aware I'm not as well as I've never done studio
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stuff up until recently. I know plenty of guys that do
studio things. I've heard all the horror
stories. I've heard all the things.
How long we are, how exhausted is the pressure, you know, the
resets, the, you know, do that again, do it from this angle.
So it wasn't ignorant to the fact of anything happening.
So I was a little more mentally prepared for that, but it still
was like, OK, just like. It's a long day dude.
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It's like, it's like, if I recall correctly, something like
8 hours or something that it took me to film, like an old
Raging Stallions scene. They were long days.
And so I honestly don't remember, I don't think it was 8
hours, but I do remember like the the three-way scene that I
did with with raging for way to a man's heart.
That was a three-way. So that like it took more time
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for that because it had to focuson three of us and that would
be, we had to play, you know, cluster with three bodies and
how to reset 3 times then to figure out things.
So that one, that one did take alittle bit, but I mean, it was,
I'm all about the experience. That was really fun to, you
know, sweet. Yeah, that's awesome and they're
a good company to work with. I just had Chris Ward on Legends
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of his thing. He started Raging Stallion and
so like back in the day, a long time ago.
So anyway, so I saw again I was trolling your Twitter, your X
feed, and so I saw that you had a really crazy limit pushing
scene with Chilled Punch. Yeah, so Chill Punch is a
friend. I think I met him through X
Twitter and I saw he's in LA andso I was like, oh, you know, he
can, he can take a fist. There's no denying that.
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And because of my big hands, it's hard for me to find guys
that I can really like, be greedy, top with and go like
you're obviously like in physical anomaly, I saw his
ability to take a fist. So I was like, OK, well, let's
go. And you know, obviously I visit
him and because of my capabilities and he was, he was
like, well, like, let's, let's see how far you can go.
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And like, yeah, like I said, I just love being punched because
I I'd rather just take the intensity of a full 4 hour
session, if you will, and just compact it in a short amount of
time because I'm just busy. I don't have time 4 hours
stretching my whole or like spending an entire day or
weekend like at a fist fest likeslowly came my whole plate with
the entire time like just get in, knock it out like a couple
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back and forth rounds give each other breaks.
But yeah, he he is a masochistictop.
It's fantastic. Awesome.
I've actually had to readjust the way that I get fisted now
because I can't really do depth stuff right now for the next
couple weeks. So I've been like more into
getting punches and it's like a completely different experience.
Like I'm into I mean, I'm very much into it.
I'm enjoying every every bit of it.
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I'm like just like a savage beatdown on my actual asshole
instead of like my guts getting rearranged like it's it's quite
different. So.
Well, that whole concept, like different people being like a
puncher, A stretcher or a depth person is what I love about
fisting because I look at what you do and I'm like, how in the
physical hell is that going thatfar up him right?
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Like you see me getting punched and up until recently you're
like, how do you just handle these punches?
I know it was rough with you. And you're like, no, because
that's not your that's not your thing, right?
Yeah. But there's this mutual respect
that we all have because we all,not a lot of people can do all
three. So if you can't do 1, you just
respect the fact that person do the other and appreciate that,
right? Yeah.
Exactly. And there's, I remember Falcon
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Punch was telling me one time, he's like, you're either a, he
basically gave me the same analogy.
It's like you're like almost knighted in the beginning of
your fisting career, whether you're going to be like a width
person, a depth person, a punch person, or like what you're
going to be. And that's a good class for like
the whole time. So it's just been interesting
the kind of experiment with different types of fisting
because I've been so much a depth person for most of my
adult and my entire adult life. And so having to adjust has been
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kind of cool. And I've learned, like a lot of
different, there's a lot of different types of fisting that
I wasn't enjoying before. So yeah.
So do you ever think when you'rein a scene like that, I mean,
how do you gauge how far is too far?
Like do you, do you think about that at all?
Like? Because I know I'm not going to
last super long. Like I think, OK, we'll probably
have like 1. We'll have like two different
endings, if you will. So like heat tops and then I top
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and then heat tops and I top. And then you just recall it
because I just know like I'll besore or I, I have more going on
the next day or somebody can't. Like I'd be a little more aware
of the fact that I can't go as hard as I would like to, but I
think the whole point of pushingyour limits is just to see like
how long can I last? Can I last an extra 5 minutes in
this? Can I see if you can go to the
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round? Can I see if you know, you know,
you're punching, punching, punching, and then you take like
a 32nd break, you know, like, OK, go back in it now.
Now let's do a toy. Now let's do a like a thorough
gun. Like, let's see what else we can
do to get ourselves to at that place.
What did you say? A thorough gun.
Yeah, no, like the massage guns.I know they kind of make my
butthole numb after a little while.
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Like so I've been restrained andlike edged with one of them and
I love watching edging videos where they do that.
I think it's so hot but I it does nothing for me.
It gets me so numb. Yeah, I know.
It's weird. It's like, it's a weird, it's
like the vibrations, like I've used it on my, I have one in my
room somewhere. But I mean like anytime anybody
goes to use it on their back, I'm like please, God, make sure
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that I disinfect at that point. I'm like, I'm such a gross boy.
I'm like please, let's make surethat I clean that before they're
just like sitting there and you know, like, oh God.
So. I assume that anybody comes and
visit you for any reason just automatically assumes that
someone's covered in Lube. Yeah.
Like the best intentions. The floor is either greasy with
the silicone Lube depending on how much latex I've worn
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recently, or it's just got this dry J Lube grime to it.
No, I'm just kidding. I keep my house pretty clean,
but it's everything is there's been times after a play session
where everything's sticky and sothe so the raging stallion
ladder shot of your ass super hot.
I remember the video of you getting fisted.
I don't know if you, I don't know if you've ever shared this
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video online, but the video of you eating pizza.
I don't share online because it's at a birthday party.
OK, friend Richard house during COVID for a birthday party and
we all kind of stayed in the house for the entire weekend and
just partied and had a good time.
For context, there's a video of you getting fisted on a
countertop while eating pizza, Ithink.
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OK, so it's for context for anybody who's the people who
haven't seen this video. It's in this kitchen diet
kitchen island. There's me like 2 other guys
lined up next, all being fisted of course up on their side of
the island. And we had just made pizza.
It's literally because that's what we're doing.
We we were just hanging out and fucking around and listening to
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music and dancing and like we would just casually make food
every once in a while or, you know, pizza and whatever as
there's pizza right in front of me and I'm like, man, I'm
hungry. I'm sitting again.
They're all fours game fisted and I reach over and grab the
pizza. And a lot of the people there
are not on that kink level of fisting in general.
Like they're, they were super cool about it, but they were
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just like, Oh my God, like. So random.
And in general, like I remember I first started fisting, it was
all about like I had to be in a sling.
Lights had to be certain that like lightness, No, like
everything I'd be correct, right?
Like I had to be so if someone wasn't wrong, something wasn't
right, I wouldn't get in that space.
I wouldn't be able to get fisted.
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Well, I'm way past that. So it was like, oh, OK, well,
yeah, let's do a countertop. Let's go.
You know, it's all about the funexperiences of doing more.
And not that that's a boundary push for me, but it's like now I
can say, hey, look, I've got fist on this countertop and
versus lovely video me getting fisted it.
Was just kind of icon. It was classic, classic Ian
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Sterling. In my brain, it's like this is
so I know you and so this is so you to me.
I'm. Just all about the fun, like if
you don't laugh or if you take yourself too seriously to not
enjoy fisting out of the like dark chain hardcore stuff.
You take life with you seriously.
Like you. Like I laugh all the time when
being fisted because it's just comical.
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That's like that. This is what we are capable of
doing. Yeah, I know.
The toys that I see guys break in.
I know it's, it's, I mean, have you seen Hot Wings U KS videos?
The toys that he's pulling out of his ass that just never
seemed to end? Yeah.
The never ending. The never ending story.
I'm Buck man. I have whole envy because it's
just like, I don't know how the fuck that's fitting inside of
him and it's crazy. So you just kind of gotta laugh
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at it. You gotta laugh at the insanity
of what we do to ourselves too, yeah?
And like I said unfortunately that pic besides showing it to
friends, that video will never go public.
Like I'll never post on my ex oranything just because there's
too many people in the background that don't maybe
don't want to be in the background of the video will be
interested. So out of respect to them, I
just, I just post. I just send it.
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Well I just show it to friends for fun.
Yeah, it's a fucking hidden gem.It's fucking hilarious.
I just remember seeing it. I think you sent it to me on
scrub or something like that or somewhere and I was just like,
this is so classic, classic. Well, I have AI have AI was a
treasure trove. But I have videos of me like on
the beach, like spit roasting somebody eating a sub.
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I have that video of me getting pizza.
It just just for fans, only for fans where I'm just doing eating
food things and casually having sex.
Yeah, just holding. On Whole Foods and I will not
get a seasoned business letter from anybody at all.
I think somebody actually, thereis a Whole Foods, somebody's got
that handle on X, there's a Whole Foods that's going to pop
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up around. So again, trolling your feed.
You've talked about wanting to be a dumb locked muscle sub, but
it's too big for a cage. I vouched for it is probably too
big for a cage. Is that if fantasy you're still
tasting or do you have worked? Around that it was totally a
humble brag because I do have a large penis, but I see fisting
bottoms and they're locked up and I feel like because they're
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they can't get hard, you know, they can't stroke because I get
hard when I get fisted. So you know, I see them and they
just get this whole nother subbylevel because they're locked,
right? And I just don't see it ever
happening with me. And the bigger I get, the more I
love that himbo fucked fantasy of like, yeah, just this whole
slutty himbo that loves his whole racks and love sucking
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Dick anonymously through glory holes.
I love that that's a thing now that that's like a wait.
I'm so because Rock Biggs was very much the same way.
He was saying how he just loves being kind of this himbo on a
bike, you know, on his way to get his whole trash.
And I'm just it's it's I'm so happy that that's a thing now
that that's embraced that it's no more.
There doesn't really seem to be a ton.
I mean, I don't really I don't ever remember really ever
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experiencing it. But bottom shaming.
It doesn't really seem that's a big thing anymore.
Everybody's getting fisted. Yeah, I think Fisting Journal
has just gotten so much bigger, like pun fully intended.
But I guess it's it's spread, it's gotten a lot bigger.
So I think because been so much more widely accepted, it's less
taboo and therefore people are OK with bottoms.
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Yeah. Yeah, it's like it's a cool
thing if there's leftover and all that stuff, and embracing
being bottom is I think, more a more masculine thing now today
than it was. Well, I always just say like, oh
man, I feel like such a man whenI take a Dick and then we start
taking fists. I was like no, no, now I feel
like a man. There's no, when you think about
it, there's nothing really more masculine than taking it up the
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ass. It's like pretty Butch thing to
do and man, you know, you got tobe a man to take that.
So I get it. I get it.
So your look always super sexy. It's bold, hairy, masculine, no
frills. Do you ever feel like physical
persona is part of the kink performance or just naturally?
Who do you bring to the cameras?Who you are?
Well, I always said like Ian is still who I am when I'm not
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doing porn, like I'm still incredibly sexual and it's
there's really not much of a difference.
I just shoot. I just go with Ian for escorting
for the porn just because it's, you know, it's a, you know, a
safety mechanism in a way, or just I was worried that if my
real name came out that I'd be easily found.
It's a unique name. So it's sort of just becoming
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like this way to protect myself.So Ian is all the best parts for
me without all the hang ups of like I thought about rent, you
know, like ex-boyfriend drama, like Ian's most suave, the most
sexual, the most charming, the most everything about me is just
concentrated. Yeah.
I've been going through a littleidentity crisis myself.
And so like having to figure outwhat, what, you know, hearing
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you describe Ian as a separate entity is kind of exactly how I
describe hunger. FF It's completely kind of a
different entity and you've got,you've got a much more positive
spin on it than I do where you're like, it's the best
versions of myself. And, and so I like that a lot.
That's a really, I think, healthy way of looking at it.
Well, some people, I find that their personal, who they are
personally and who their stage name is, are two completely
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different people. Like it is a night and day thing
and that works for them. I think that's like the Sasha
Fierce moment where you know, they can become this person for
me. Like I don't like I said, it's
not that much of A change. Just enough to, you know,
compartmentalize my life so I could still have my day career.
I have my day relationships, then I have my central
relationships. I have all these like, what if I
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ask for something? I'm able to compartmentalize
that moment when I need Ian to come out.
And then when I'm done with Ian,I take a shower and it just goes
back into wherever. Into your head?
Yeah, that's relatable as fuck. I mean, I I get it.
And I just had had a couple months where I was really
struggling with it. For some reason I just felt I
couldn't hack turning off hungerFFI felt I was spending so much
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time as hunger FF that I was forgetting trick of what made me
mean. And this is a whole other
episode. So it's it just took a little
while to kind of differentiate might pull them apart again for
me. But this show has been helping
me do it because this is even though it's a hunger FF branded
show. I feel like I'm talking to you,
just my friend. Yeah, yeah.
So you've called out some gay baiting content online saying if
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straight guys too gay for pay they better actually fuck.
So you do you think the industryis getting more honest or do you
still think there's some smoke and mirrors aspect to it?
Always when we smoke and mirrors, even my most legit
scenes, like when I did my scenewith Sir Peter, there's a
regular scene. I made sure that there was like
actual chemistry with him because consumers of porn are
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getting smarter. They can't tell when things are
fake. They can't tell when guys are
not into it because you know, I want and I can see that.
So I try to make things as less smoking as possible.
But as I said, with the get a grip scene, you know, there is
stops, there are goes, there areOK, let's change this.
Let's try doing this. But so but the consumer doesn't
see that. They just see this beautifully
edited thing with multi camera angles and that so beautifully.
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But on the gay for pay thing, they're buying houses ours from
the world. Like great.
I think that's fantastic. I don't have where you lose my
respect as a performer is where you are gay baiting and it's
like those straight guys that put the dildos on their deck,
their pants and I don't know whypeople.
It's so annoying. It's so annoying and I won't say
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who, but there's one content creator and he will.
I guess he facilitates the the scene or something, but he's
there and he's like, Oh yeah, suck that Dick.
Not to his own Dick to someone else's.
Like he's like pushing someone'shead down on someone else's guy.
Or he's like behind him, like playing with his chest wall.
Some guy's topping somebody else.
And like, how, how are you doingthis?
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How are you successful? Not doing anything?
Like I give props to like fit Flau.
No, that's how you say his name,but straight, extremely
attractive. But he's like legitimately
fucking guys. He's legitimately doing scenes.
He's he's game blown and I know he's straight or well, sorry, I
don't, I don't put him on the spectrum, but I know generally
he's straight. Yeah, he yes, but you know, he's
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doing things like I I respect the fact that he's making coin
and doing gay things like, but if you're just going to just
kind of be there, I I don't think that's.
Yeah. I didn't agree with that, but I.
Had AI had a scene with David Taylor, who was I was 18 or 19
years old and it was for a raging Stallion movie and that
was back when the gay for pay thing was kind of like really
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controversial back then. It's super it's still
controversial, but it's like more controversial and I
remember him having to have a phone with like porn lying on my
back while he was fucking and I was like, I'm just a whole.
This really is just it was a very much just a whole moment
and I was remember just feeling this is really awkward.
He's trying to come and he's just watching porn next to my
face so that they could just pull the phone away to give me a
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facial or whatever afterwards. I was that that makes it
uncomfortable. I think for the at least for me.
I mean, some guys probably get into that just seeing, you know,
a hole for a straight dude or whatever.
But for me, I figured there's somany gay guys in the world and
why do I want to try to convincea straight guy to fuck me?
I don't need to, you know, I don't want to.
And I've never gotten into the straight guy fantasy thing, but
that's just. And I understand we all have our
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kinks. There's definitely a market for
gay guys who want to watch straight guys be straight and,
you know, either fuck or not fuck holes or, you know, play
the straight guy that is fuckinga gay guy, whatever.
But you know respect is lost when you're not doing gay
things. You're just there, right?
Yeah, no, I get it totally. And that is frustrating.
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They're just trying to take advantage of the market without
actually doing any of the work. I mean, I feel I got to push out
2 feet in my butt hole to get noticed on the Internet and all
these guys have to do is take a shower.
Fuck off. So you've worked with legends
and up and comers alike. How have you seen the fisting
niche shift since you started performing?
And what's gotten better and what still feels maybe a little
stagnant, if you feel there's anything stagnant in the
fisting. I don't think there's any
stagnantness in the fisting community because it's always
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evolving. There's always new players,
there's always new new toys to wreck yourself with it.
It's always really fun. Like when, if I, if I finished
with somebody like for my own, my own enjoyment, I always tell
them what I don't like because I, I don't want if I just tell
them what I do like and they just do that, you know, where's
the fun of that, right? So if I just say here, have fun,
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go to town. But here's just things that just
don't do these things. But like with, you know, the
scenes I'm doing with people, they're definitely people like I
want to be doing them with. Like me and Bobby have a fisting
relationship. You know, we fist not very
regularly lately, but we used todo it kind of consistently.
Bobby Riker. Yes.
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OK, cool. So like we already had that
connection. So yeah, I don't see a lot of
sadness to the if. That's the word I like the I
like the what I do like about collab culture is which is what
I call, I call it now collab culture.
We still we're it's collabs, butgenerally speaking, we're
setting them up ourselves and wewant to be who are with, we're
not being forced fed to each other.
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Generally speaking, it's it's who people that we want to be
fucking around with anyway. So that shows in the videos.
Yeah, look again, like I said, the consumers are getting
smarter. So you're not shy online, which
to say the least I would say I wouldn't consider you to be shy
on the Internet If you posted about gangbang setups being
dominated more. Is that part of your branding's
self-expression, or a little bitof both?
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Even in my personal life are very close and you know, I love
gangbangs, you know, they're funand I love group things in
general. That's one of my finishes.
There's always just so much energy and you know there's
always something to do. Yeah, someone to do?
Someone. Something so yeah, they're
they're fun and I enjoy them. So why not record it and make
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some money off of it? Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, I just did a this other weekend I did a a Treasure
Island scene, whereas the Yang Bang bottom.
Why does this feel like there's a story here?
It was just definitely like one of those like full circle
moments in my life because I remember watching the first, my
first gangbang with them and be like, wow, it's just so piggy
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and I can't, I just can't believe like he's just taking so
many loads and just guys after guys.
And like there's a very famous like sex club in Los Angeles
called Slammers. And like it's not uncommon for
me to go there if I'm like a random weekend, if I'm bored and
horny and just kind of walk around and get loads.
It's like this is more concentrated because it's
intentionally guys are there just to fuck you.
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Like you don't have to convince anybody.
You don't have to like, walk around hoping to find somebody
like they're just there to fuck you.
Yeah, that's hot. You know, I don't say I checked
out, but I, I, I look back on the actual experience with him.
Like that was just such a blur because in a slang, guy after
guy after guy. OK, now my head's over here.
Now those heads over here, OK, you know, some guys bred me.
Some guys just can't just fuck me and wait for the next
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position. OK, now we're going to go over
here and just bench now. OK, guy, guy, guy blowjob, load
up over here. Now there's a new guy.
I don't know if it was someone switched, I don't know if
someone already can, but it was just kind of hopping once.
And then I remember like, we hadto stop a couple times because
the sling, the structure of it like shifted and like I got out
of the sling and my head got blood back and I was like, whoa.
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It's like. Like, all right, this is
happening. OK, let's go back in it.
You're such a slut. I love it so much.
Did you have? So much fun.
Did you feel the only the only my only thing is that I did AI
did a movie called 21 fist weekend one time and I remember
feeling a little bit conveyor belt and I and they were my
friends. It was a guys I had recorded and
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so it's I was kicking one out after the other and I I was like
in 5 minutes or 10 minutes with one.
Then the next guy would come in and 10 minutes with them.
So I felt a little weird afterwards.
I was like, man, I just treated all my friends slices of meat
out of fucking bladder. But it sounds like you kind of
get off on the whole experience a little bit more.
Yeah. Whether whether it turned out
good or bad, I always said like,you know, at least I did it.
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That's my whole mantra of life is because out of all the
emotions that we have as human beings, regret is the silliest
one because you can do about it,right.
So rather have gone in and had abad experience than to not have
done it at all. And I mean, I had a great
experience. So it's.
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Yeah. Was that sketchy Airbnb that we
stayed at with the white reflective furniture and it was
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impossible to light And so the scene is super washed out.
But you are so fucking hard on my asshole in that scene.
That's it was so good. And so what's your what's we
filmed together? I know we filmed that again.
I remember when we first filmed together, I was just learning
about colored lights and stuff like that.
And so I had them facing us. It's super washed out, but it's
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that was fun. We filmed that CCBCI think yeah.
And then again at at that sketchy Airbnb.
So what was your what any stand out experiences with me with
those? I think the air the sketchy
Airbnb was definitely mine. Yeah, I think I look like CCBC
just because that's just a fun environment to be in general.
And I think at that point we already developed kind of a
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repertoire as far as our holes and doing what to what to expect
with each other. So that by that point it was
like we picked up right where weleft off and there was no
feeling each other out because. We knew each other's balls by
that point. Yeah, every time you like, every
time you fist with a new person,I always just talk the first
session up to just burning the experience, right.
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I'm not trying to get to a hold of the mental level.
I'm not trying to make him piss himself, although that's great.
I'm just trying to make sure that I know what his holes like
what he likes. So by that time I knew OK,
here's where we are. It's fun, we can fist each other
and I think at that time I was dating.
What's his name? American FF.
Yes, so he was there too, and that was fun.
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I think at that point I was justtrying to show my face when I
was doing fisting stuff, recording.
So that was also like really exciting to be more part of it.
So just this whole. Didn't we fist outside?
Yeah, absolutely. I.
Think I think I remember fixing a rig to a branch or something
treatment. From above, it was the back.
It was in the back area. By The Walking past we found
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like a random flat surface and we were like, OK, well let's
just hope in the frame. I don't think I'm trying to
fucking hang a fucking rig in the middle of the night.
It was so messy, but it's it's so fun.
Yeah, I. Don't even think it turned out
well, but it was just, it was the, IT was the fact that we did
it that was the fun part. Yeah, that was awesome.
I remember the two. You double fisted me together, I
think in that. You know, it's I don't it wasn't
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remember, but that sounds very on brand for you so.
Yeah, that was awesome. Those were fun.
And we filmed in your apartment that the one time I was in Lai.
Remember that too. That was fun too.
So you juggle fan platforms. Oh, OK.
So I don't know necessarily. I'll be dead honest.
I don't necessarily know too much about Sud Fist's fan
platform. I know that.
I think that's really great thatthere's a Fisting fan platform
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now. What's the biggest difference in
how you approach a professional shoot to a content shoot?
I think content shoot, you're able to control them more and
you're able to like because it'sup to you how you want the your
viewer to see it. You know, is it a stationary
camera? Is it 1 camera here, 1 camera
here. So you're able to develop your
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brand and your aesthetic as far as what the consumers watching,
but it's also a lot more work. You know, it's all on you now.
It's also up to you to edit. It's also up to you to take care
of everything. So that's the reason why I've
never invested very much in the content world because it sounds
weird. I actually hate watching my own
stuff. Yeah, yeah, like I just because
because I do separate my life from Ian to myself to see me and
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that's that headspace of being Ian.
It's also like, OK, well, that'sthat's yeah, yeah, like my world
is like collapse, like collapsing.
But like for a studio scene, you're able to focus a lot more
on yourself and what you're doing because you don't have to
worry about oh, as this in frameit'll it's well lit because you
have someone taking care of thatfor you.
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Yeah, that's great that that part's nice.
And I've been filming more with the cameraman recently.
My one of my close friends here does camera work for me.
And it is so much easier to edita video where some there's a
cameraman involved. It's it's wild.
I mean the constant cutting backand forth between all the three
different angles I usually film with.
I've learned to appreciate having a cameraman and the
benefits of a more professional style shoot than then just
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sticking through three cameras in the corners of the room and
hoping for the best, which is what my style was for so long.
Yeah, so. And it's funny, I know so many
people that don't like the editing process.
They just hate it. It's not.
I love it. I go back and watch my own
stuff. I'll jerk off while I'm editing
my own shit. And it's like, fuck, it's so
hot. So I don't know.
It's funny. So I think it was about the
Raging Stallion, the ladder shoot, but I think you posted my
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ass looks amazing in the shot and it did.
Do you find the confidence in being objectified on the
Internet or is it something you have to push through to stay
grounded? Do you like that
objectification? Do you know, like that's that's
reason why I love go dancing because I love being
objectified. I love being touched.
I love being like, it's a great Halo boost to be on stage and
like be groped and given money and, you know, yeah, it's it's,
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you know, it's a narcissistic thing.
You know, I get. So yeah, I posed to my ass about
people tell me how amazing it looks.
I love it. It feels great.
Not that it's required of my life.
I don't, I don't, I'm not fueledby it.
But every once in a while it's it's nice to be appreciated.
Yeah, and I feel like, I don't think necessarily think it's
narcissistic. I think it's just it's nice to
get compliments. Compliments feel nice and so.
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Will do. Yeah, it's, I think that there's
a line between complimenting somebody and then objective,
completely objectifying them forone thing or one one thing or
another. But in general, compliments do
feel nice. Yeah.
It's it's it's, I mean, this sort of ties back to the pizza
thing where I feel your videos kind of have a tongue in cheek
charm to them. How important is humor in your
content? And do you ever feel it's a
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secret weapon? I don't, I don't, I don't seek
out the humor, OK? I don't.
It's just like, you know, it's just funny.
Of course, like I'm taking a 12 inch dildo like and it it shaped
like an octopus exactly like, OK, why not?
Yeah, here. Like it's, it's one of those
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things of I enjoy it so much andI find the levity in it because
it's fun to do. You know, it's like we don't do
things that we don't enjoy. So which is enjoy it and then
that's what happens. Of course someone was like, make
a joke about something because it it's funny.
Yeah. Well, and people have this
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misconception about fisting in general that I, I, you know, not
to bring up my mom, but I mean, my mom is reading my book that I
wrote. And so she's getting, she
listened to my Howard Stern interview that I did the other
day. And so she said, doesn't that
just have to hurt? And so I'm like, no, why would I
do something that hurts? Of course it feels good.
And so we don't, we do things that we like.
We do things that feel good. And so there's this
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misconception about fisting, butI mean, it is when you think
about it, putting an octopus shaped fucking dildo or the
corn. The hanky story just made a corn
dildo. What the fuck?
It's not like who's doing that? It's absurd, It's funny.
It's inherently funny what we'redoing.
So I think it's good to step back and like, appreciate the
humor. And yeah, I mean, life's too
short. Like taking seriously the the
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ego that some people have just in life is way too high.
So of course, like I'm wanting to laugh when, you know, they
pull and fist out out of being, it looks like I'm Jackson
Pollock on the back wall with like little red streaks and Lube
and whatever else comes out of my ass.
Yes, yeah, I'll be. I'll break our work because it's
just fun to break up that seriousness of it.
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Sometimes, and I think that thatmake that humanizes the content
that is on the Internet today islike the 20 years ago there
would never be laughing in porn.And I feel like that's partially
what set aside, set set apart some of us that are making
content now. It's like my best videos I think
are the ones where I'm laughing in them, you know what I mean?
And then so it's like because you know that the people there
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are actually having a good authentic, good time.
So you've been featured by Gabion and X Biz this year.
What does success look like to you right now?
What does success look like to you right now?
So. Right now, success in general is
such a weird concept. Like especially living in LA
where everyone wants to be the next YouTube streamer, you know,
whatever. I've never sought out any fame
in me doing porn, you know, it wasn't like where I got nominee
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for the Gabion. I didn't even know about it.
Someone just like randomly texted me because it was a
random three-way scene. When I got asked to do the Expos
interview I was like me because this isn't my goal is I wasn't
trying to be famous in it and I discussed fame in that interview
where I just said my goal with doing porn is to just make hot
things that people would Jack off to.
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Now I've discovered lately that the guys that I would Jack off
to, the big muscle guys that were like in Titan and Cold and
Falcon, you know, they're eitherdoing their own content.
Now, they're not doing it because it's so readily
available. And you know, the old
bodybuilders that were doing it,we're making money to pay for
their steroids and their food when but it's never going to go
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anywhere because it's all in DVHS.
And that wasn't being as distributed as online.
So I started doing this. I'm like, I want to be one of
the little guys. Like I want to be that guy that
someone jacks off to. I inspire some twink of the
Midwest to go to the gym and eatfood and get fucked senselessly.
Like, fantastic. We've like spawned a whole himbo
generation. I it'd be crazy because I'm sure
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the people that I jacked off to,if I told them like, hey, I'm
here now because of you, they might think that that's crazy
and because you know. We've all got inspiration from
somebody, you know what I mean? It's like somebody inspired all
of us to do all of the stuff that we're doing so.
Well, it's funny. There's this guy, he, what was
his name? Eric Rhodes.
So I, yeah, I'd always watch porn and I would see if it's in
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porn. I'm like, OK, that's interesting
to me. But I always be like really
skinny twinks or super, super old guys, like old guard leather
guys, right? And I was like, oh, well, I like
that. But you know, I'm trying to get
some muscles. So I'm not really there, you
know, just maybe not my thing because that's, I don't see me
doing that. But then he started.
Yeah, no, he he did a scene withit with Trent Bloom and I saw
this big Jack like ferns Canadian guy like 240 just get
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his whole blasted and I was like, Yep, done we are there.
Let's go done. Let's do that.
So clearly I remember jerking off to his little rosebud that
comes out for like a hot 2nd so many times.
Like that was some of my earliest fisting experience or
first fisting memories was that scene.
I had that scene saved on my computer and I would watch it
like, all the time. Yeah.
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So. And rest in peace.
I mean, I used to have a little.I used to chat with him before
he passed away. Yeah.
And because I was, I was important at that time.
And so I had been hoping to one day get to do a fisting scene
with him. And then he unfortunately passed
away. And so it was.
But yeah, he was. He was a legend.
And those were some those that video with Trent Bloom is like
on every tube site. It's so such a such a hot scene.
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Yeah, that's wild. What's 1 scene fantasy or
collaboration that you haven't done yet?
And like what's next for you? Like, what do you think that
what do you see yourself doing next in the in the industry the
next couple months? You have any trips planned or
collapse plan that you're excited about?
You know, I don't just because some are so busy with a pride
next month. So it's there's lots of stuff
happening lab wise. I'll probably do some more with
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Chill punch because he's really easy to get.
Set something up with you. Have so many guys in LA.
You have so many cool contact. Here's the problem with that.
When I was, when I was doing like normal content on a regular
basis, I would go to these guys that have a decent following
that are hot. You know, we're not doing
anything super kinky, but I'd belike, hey, you know, let's make
some content. And for these guys who don't
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have day jobs, this is what theydo.
It'd be impossible to arrange things.
You know, that was the biggest headache that I had when I made,
like when I made content consistently was that to nail
down somebody to make it is sucha pain in the ass.
Like if I had a partner or if I had was just doing solo content,
then yeah, game over. But the ranging was always such
a pain in the ass. Yeah, there's nothing coming up
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and with well, the scene with with Switch is going to come out
eventually, so I'll be good. But as far as like dream guys
fist with he's barely in the game anymore.
But I would bend over backwards for Francois and God if he.
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What he's getting fisted on camera though?
I know he did a scene with with.He did a scene with Kinko I
think. Oh, fantastic.
Of course. But yeah, any of those guys,
Kinko Rock, Biggs would love him.
John Thomas has always been a fan.
I've always been a fan of his schedule's Neverline, he's in
town. Who else?
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Trophy muscles in LA and that we've played together
independently off camera. But again, just trying to get a
hold of him so hard for whateverreason, it's hard not to take it
personally because I'm like, I see you doing this.
I know you're making content. I know you're out there actually
making it so you have to connectwith people at some point.
So why in a? Response Where can people find
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more about you? What are your social media
handles? So I'm mostly active on Twitter
X, whatever you want to call it nowadays, and it's Ian Sterling
XXX. From there you can get linked
into my Stud Fist profile. The content for Stud Fist, you
can get into my Just for Fans. I have an only fans, but it's
really just there's a shell. So if I in the event I get to
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film with somebody, they can have the content, they can post
it and link me to it. But I'm not posting that very
often just cause of all the structures.
Yeah, all the rules of all things that are being kind of an
issue with that. So that's where you find me
most. It's so interesting, everybody,
there was a time when everybody lived on only fans, and now it's
really shifted. It's like there's not really a
lot of people using only fans anymore, I don't feel like, but
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it's still such a beast, but there's not so many people using
it anymore. Sterling, thank you so much for
doing this show with me. Thank you.
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the bottom in the description. Thanks again and it's really
exciting to talk to you again. I really missed you.
Yeah, no, it's just it's been far too long since we've been
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each other's holes. So, all right, you guys have a
good night. Take care.
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