October 10, 2025 • 32 mins
This week on Brolapse, HungerFF sits down with the rising powerhouse of MachoFuckers — HorsePapo. From his explosive growth online to his evolution from dominant top to exploring bottom play, HorsePapo opens up about creativity, connection, and what it means to merge muscle, endurance, and intimacy in porn.
The two dive deep into the philosophy of fisting — how it ties to size, stamina, and trust — and how boundaries, consent, and communication create the most unforgettable scenes. HorsePapo also shares the story behind his name, his training mindset, and why mystery and anonymity still fuel his power.
This conversation hits every note: sex, humor, honesty, and a raw look at the passion that drives today’s underground creators.
👊 Topics include:
• How fisting “goes hand in hand with big d*cks”
• Transitioning from pure top energy to exploring bottom play
• The creative process behind MachoFuckers scenes
• Why anonymity and fantasy matter in fetish porn
• Fitness, stamina, and filming with intention
• Collaboration, consent, and staying grounded in the spotlight
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(00:00):
Welcome to Brolapse, the fistingpodcast that goes deep explore
my life, views and raw, unfiltered conversations with
the creators that are redefiningkink connection in the fisting
community. Hey guys, welcome back.
We're back for another episode of Brolapse, and I'm actually
really stoked about today's guest.
He's somebody that I've been watching for the last couple
months on Twitter or on X rather.
(00:21):
He's blowing up horse. Popo is on the show today.
So welcome. Welcome to Pro Labs.
Yes, thank you for having me. Happy to be here.
Yay, I am a big. I was just telling you I
subscribe. You're just for fans.
I watch all your videos and they're fucking intense and
super, super hot. You've like, been blowing up
like crazy lately, it feels. So thank you.
Yes, thank you. I'm trying not to.
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Sometimes I try to show a more softer side.
Yeah. So I don't want to scare off
everybody. Yeah, but it's it's a mix.
But yes, it is. You know, the the tagline is
Macho Fucker. So yeah, that's to be expected.
Yeah. Subscribing.
That's, and so how did you, you've done some fisting
content, I mean, 'cause that's, that's what I watch.
(01:03):
And so I scroll through your feed and I find you with the
fisting videos. And so how did you first get
into fisting? And was it something that you
discovered on your own through friends online or what was how
did you, what was your first fisting experience?
So I think my first fisting experience was in New York.
It was pride. I had just turned 21 and I came
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into the city and I'm this is a little lead up to to what I'm
going to say, but I went into the city.
I walked into a bar. This hot little muscle Latino
guy saw me, beeline to me, pushed me against the wall, took
me to the stalls and just jumpedon my Dick.
OK, and that's that was sort of when I realized that I have a
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slightly larger Dick than average.
OK, so while I was out in New York during this pride stint,
there were people asking me to fist them.
So I found that having a big Dick is somewhat synonymous with
fisting. Typically someone who gets
fisted can handle a larger appendage.
Yeah, sure. And sometimes it's more
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comfortable too, you know, like,yeah, for me, being of a larger
size, you know, everyone has their own taste.
But sometimes when a, when a hole is a little bit on the
looser side, it's more pleasurable for me.
Yeah. So fisting goes hand in hand
with big Dicks. You.
Know what it's like for me when I the the rare occasion that I
do top, I'd like to fuck open holes because my Dick hurts if
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I'm trying to shove it in something that's super tight.
It doesn't feel good to me. So it does.
And you're right. I mean fisting and and big
Dicks. I always say that little hands
are like big Dicks for fisters because it's because we can
handle, you know, whatever all our hands are.
We see guys with small hands. Your thought?
And there's the size Queens thatalways go for the big hands too,
so that's hot. So what was your first actual
fisting experience like? Do you remember it?
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I'm not sure if I can remember the details like there there are
specific encounters I've had with fisting.
I remember the first time I was fisting this older daddy with
like a huge ass and it was the first time I was stroking my
Dick inside of his ass. That was the first time I ever
did that. So I remember that it was at his
hotel and we did ass up always aplus.
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And then I remember another timewhere I was just like staying at
a Airbnb and I think I was having sex with someone, but I
was so horny. And this guy messaged me on an
app and he sent a, sent me a picture of his hole.
And it was like so open. And I was like, come over.
He bent over and took down his pants, big hole, no Lube,
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straight in. And like he, he didn't, he
didn't want me to use the Lube or anything.
It was just so it was a huge turn on.
You know it was a huge turn on, but I can't pinpoint the exact.
First time I ever fisted. But those are two really good
stories anyways. Yeah, they were.
They're like the big ones, the stand out.
Nice. So you're known primarily as I
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feel like known primarily as a top, yes, but you are doing some
like solo dildo play and stuff like that on your on your page
now. And so that's been really hot to
watch. So what, what was it like to
shift gears that way, both personally and in terms of like
your content creation? How did you decide to start
doing that? Well, I have a backside.
I always say it's like a counterweight system so you know
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the motion of the ocean. So I just knew it was something
I was I was going to do. I felt comfortable with it, I
think. But when I watch porn, what I
like is actually watching the tops ass like pumping into a
hole. I love that.
So I knew that the way that I want to showcase my work would
have that some would have that angle or somewhat of that.
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And so using toys was just a sort of natural progression.
I haven't technically bottomed on camera yet, but I do have a
you coming coming soon. And it is it is quite intense
because I'm just preparing the audience to get used to seeing
the bottom. There will be exclusive videos,
you know, so if you want to juststay with the top side, there's
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that. But if you want to see a little
bit more of the premium bottoming content, you have the
option for that. But yeah, it'll be an exclusive.
You're such a businessman. Same situation part of me.
Such a businessman. Well, it's more so, you know,
sometimes people, I don't want to really use this word, but
they sometimes get a distaste when they see a top start
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bottoming. So I just wanted to get people
used to that idea before just rolling out with me getting my
cheeks pounded, you know? But a lot of my subscribers, I
like, I take polls and and all of that.
And, you know, like over 90% want to see me bottom or they
love my ass play solos. Yeah.
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And I'm happy to give it to them.
I your polls on on your just forfans pretty frequently.
Yeah, it's always just to get a little bit more insight on on
them and our sexual experiences.Yeah.
Do you find the fisting content is different than filming
traditional regular Dick and butt sex?
Or is there Is this sort of all the same for you?
It is somewhat the same only because, like I said, having a
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big Dick has has made fisting sort of hand in hand.
You know, a lot of the men that I've fucked through through my
life have been into getting fisted too, because, you know,
if they're seeking out a larger Dick.
So it's not too much of a departure of what I already do.
And same with, you know, having a larger penis is like you have
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to understand the bottom that you're having sex with and the
pace that you need to go in go, you know, with the the sort of
connection and that's needed, the style that they like.
And it's the same with fisting. I do find that maybe fisting has
a little more cleanup, perhaps with, with the Lube, with the
Lube, maybe a little bit more preparation time and maybe a
little bit more mindfulness of, you know, responding when you're
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inside them. You know, because everyone's
whole, you just have to have more, more sense as a tune with
the person that you're insertinginside.
Yeah, I always. But it is similar.
I ask guys usually before I start playing with them, what do
I need to know about your butt hole before I start?
What do I need to know? Because everybody likes
something a little different andI try to adapt to the bottoms
that I that I'm fisting when I when I do it.
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So let's talk about this. So your body's insane.
Seems like you're in the gym a lot.
So how does your fitness routineconnect to your sex life and do
you have Do you think your physique changes the way that
people approach you or see you in the scene?
I think so think well, I mean, being in the gym obviously
brings confidence for me aside from, you know, Wellness and the
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holistic reasons for exercise. But I I also need to.
I find that like I'm on a filming trip right now.
I've noticed that my stamina hasgone on a lot better in and out
of the gym because I'm just. It's a lot of pounding.
Yeah, a lot of. It's a lot of cardio, right.
I guess being mindful of my cardio does make sex more
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enjoyable. I go by force, Papo.
So the the word is like endurance, right?
Which is what I like too. So I don't want my body to give
out while I'm still wanting pleasure.
So I try to keep my physique in,in good condition.
Obviously, what someone may perceive as in bad condition may
not be true. You know, let's say like someone
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who's bodybuilding, they go through a bulk phase and a
cutting face, right? But you know, their heart health
or they're just like, their Wellness can still be up there,
but. And your videos are long I feel.
Yeah, they are. Yeah, some of them are short it
it kind of just depends, you know, I I sort of switch it up
like sometimes some, some of them are under 5 minutes, but
you know, then it would be like a hot hookup sort of scene.
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Most of my videos are like 30 plus minutes.
Yeah, I know. I I was watching 1 I think.
Was it definitely, definitely that Jason?
Yes, yeah, that was a 45 minute video.
I was watching the whole I was like long.
So it's super hot. I actually just took a poll to
recently asking my subscribers what do they prefer?
And there was an option of I think 30 to 45 minutes.
(09:04):
And everybody, most of the, the votes are for 30 to 45 minutes
or 50 to 60 plus or as long as possible.
And I, I do feel like if you're doing, let's say, like fisting
content or maybe some type of kink or fetish play, the more,
the more the merrier in my opinion, Because a lot of the
like, let's say if I go to someone who I'm going to going
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to be fisting, sometimes they just put on a porn, a fisting
and it's just left on. It's almost like background
noise. So I feel like it's important to
maybe have those type of movies longer so that, you know, for
that purpose. Yeah, that's cool.
Yeah, I know. And that's that's, I mean, I
when I play in my playroom, I have a big projector screen that
I have I play porn on when I play, but the videos are always
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minutes and they stop and I've got to be like, wait a minute, I
think I'm sure turn it back on. So if the longer, longer videos
are definitely, I look for the longer videos myself when I'm
playing, when I have something on the background, stuff like
that. So fisting is intense physically
and mentally. So what kind of prep do you do
before a scene, like as a top? And then also, how do you
recover afterwards, like after like a really intense session?
(10:06):
In regards to fisting or just having some type of sexual
intercourse. Yeah, I mean whatever.
I mean fisting or I mean specifically fisting just
because it is sort of, sort of it can be really intense and
really you develop. I mean, I feel fisting you get
like far more connected, I thinkor the chances of getting more
connected are are there. So I don't know if there's any
kind of kind of come down for you after after a fisting
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session like that or? I was having a conversation with
with another creator recently. They were wanting me to fist
them and they were a little apprehensive just because some
of my fisting content is a little bit more aggressive.
But I was reminding him that fisting is actually it's about
deep connection, it's about intimacy, it's about feeling
safe in the other person's handsor arms.
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And you know, if don't based offof like what I do here, that
it's going to necessarily be thesame for you.
Because there I fisted people where it is a lot more slower.
Maybe they're more into depth rather than shallow, shallow
punches. So I think in terms of like the
calm down, it's just it just takes more time.
It takes more time and attention.
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Usually there's like penetrationinvolved too.
And if I'm breeding their their ass, then I'm fisting my load
inside them afterwards. So it's just, I'm not too sure
if I, I have a like a specific strategy in terms of coming
down. It's also very natural, natural
for me, you know, just connecting and enjoying,
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enjoying each other in the moment.
Yeah, that's, I think the best kind of content that people can
make is when it's not transactional and it's more just
a connection in the moment. People can, people can sense
that and I can sense in the videos that you make, you seem
to always be having a really good time.
So yeah, yeah, it's it's really hot.
So who have been some of your favorite collaborators that
you've worked with, people that you've worked with or seen
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specific scenes you're proud of that stand out to you?
In regards to fisting do well, this one has to come out yet,
but there's been a teaser for itmy collab with horse boy Zane.
OK, so he does a lot of dildo play and and fisto fisting play
and there's been a great demand to see both these stallions in
the same group. So we made it happen.
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We have two videos coming out. I think stylistically wise it's
it's interesting it's kind of intense, it's dark, it's Moody.
If you have seen the trailer or the teaser, the trailer and the
the rest will come out later. But I do think that one is is is
quite nice. And there's also like a fisting
and a piss component in there too.
Another fisting scene would probably be my one.
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Be the one with Punch Boy. That was very intense, very
intense. He's my spirit animal.
Yes, we go way back. Super nice guy, we had a good
time and his whole can take anything I know and he enjoys
it. He enjoys it.
So like for him, you know, the intense rapid thrusting is is
enjoyable for him. You know, for someone else it
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might be a little bit. Less I can do my best punch boy
impression is like fuck my dumb faggot pussy.
Yeah. I always love him so much.
I have such a good time with him.
And we actually had a we were atthis party in New York City
together called Manhole, and I was in the sling getting fisted
and he was underneath me gettingfisted.
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We were getting fisted by the same guy and he was pulling both
of our prolapses out and like mashing them together.
And it was like, it was so fucking.
Fun making a cake. Making a cake.
Exactly. It was really fun.
I haven't seen, I actually don'tthink I've seen him since then,
but we still stay in touch and and he's a he's a great guy.
Yeah, super nice. Yeah.
So it's. Super deep.
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Super. I mean like super.
Deep. Super metaphorically speaking,
or physically deep? Both.
His hole is insane now. I I remember when I first
started fisting him he was really shallow and then I fisted
him at manhole and I was like bro when did this happen?
Like when when did this happen? It was really, really super hot.
I do have one more. I have many more.
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Honestly, a lot of my collapse have been stellar for different
reasons. But in regards to fisting one,
also my fisting video with Nate Grimes, I think that was really
hot. It was just super frothy, very
creamy. So if you like seeing a creamy
gaped out hole, that one is sublime.
But I actually I do have a lot more fisting content coming out
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soon that I filmed recently and it's a plus.
We got to do something together.One day after I'm fueled, I'm
healed and back together. Back together and my body's back
like I was. Still definitely, yeah.
It'd be super hot. So I mean, my, my accident
wasn't for 30 inches inside me. Everything is still OK from
there. There.
Yeah, it'll be super. That'll be super hot.
What aspects of your content or style are you trying to push
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forward right now? Are the things that you wish
more people understood or saw differently when it comes to
fisting or kink content? I do, you know, I, I believe
that the point of making contentwas sort sort of to create an an
amateur style lane for anyone that decides to showcase their
point of view. And I do think that sometimes
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people are too worried about things looking to produce, which
I think there is a perfect lane for that.
But at the same time, you know, these platforms were were
created to be adjacent to studios.
So I. Think so much.
Because we're yes, but I do, I do think both are important.
You know, I have scenes where there's certain types of studio
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lighting where it's, you know, I'm not looking so much as
shadows or I'm having someone else film it.
But I guess for me with how I approach my content, I just kind
of go with what is my gut telling me to do because I know
my gut will never fail me. So if I'm feeling like, you
know, my like my video with Punch Boy, it had like a Kill
Bill sort of spin on it. I don't know if you've noticed
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it, but there's a part that goesblack and white.
So it's almost like the berserk scene that Beatrix Kiddo goes
into. So, you know, it might not be
the conventional sort of porn, but it's fun for me.
And the whole point of this is to enjoy my sexuality and to
invite people to to see that, tosee my sexuality through through
my lens. So, you know, if I feel like
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doing that, I'm going to do it. And then if I feel like doing
something else that's a little bit more produce, I'm going to
do it. And I'm not too worried about,
you know, that it has to be a specific way.
You know, I have AI have a moviethat's going to be coming out
with at Steel where, you know, we had a smoke machine in a
backdrop. And it's it's very Moody, a lot
of dark and bright dark lights and shadows.
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And I wanted it to look like a vintage sort of 80s style
poured. And so then it comes to the
question of what what looks moreproducer, what's not because it
wasn't filmed by someone, but itis technically like a studio
style. I sort of just go with what what
my gut tells me. There's this quote I sort of
live by where it's actually LadyGaga said it and it's she was
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talking about when she writes music, she said honoring your
vomit. And what she meant by that was
if something comes out of you, take it, marinate on it and work
on it. And don't just discard it
because you thought of somethingbetter.
Maybe you don't want to work on it right now, but you can put it
off to the side and maybe come back to it later.
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But don't, don't discard, you know, your intrinsic ideas.
And so I, I try to remember thatI had a collab with somebody and
they kept thinking of, well, let's do this.
This is a better shot, This is abetter shot, This is a better
shot. And I, I didn't tell them this
advice because, you know, you still want to keep the mood, but
I think that, you know, your first idea is typically a good
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idea and you can use that betteridea or the different idea on
another shoot. Don't put too much stress on
yourself on it has to be perfectbecause you're your gut, your
idea is already perfect. Just iron out the kinks.
I I've always, for me, what's always worked has been static
cameras, multiple static camerasthat I then just kind of switch
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back and forth between. I've experimented more recently
with having a cameraman and doing more production style
shoots and I'm still going to always be a camera in the tripod
in the corner kind of guy. Like it's, they always seem
more. I know that the cameraman shoots
are so much easier to edit. I don't know if you do your own
editing and stuff but like I do,I do so the camera man stuff is
so much easier to edit but but Imust I feel my aesthetic has
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always just been fly on the wall.
Right, which is sexy. Yeah, because I was really so
excited when the fan content stuff started.
The movement started because I was I've, I'm from studio porn.
Like I grew up in studio porn. I grew up in Raging Stallion.
And so I was so excited to see it go more amateur because
that's the kind of porn I like to watch.
So when I started making it and now I see this kind of
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regression or not regression, but there is a lot more polished
looking amateur porn now today and there and there was.
Which which is good too. Like I'm not saying that's, you
know, I I like I like a mix, buteven with like raging Stallion
and I think Titan, I think even they would have like stationary
camera shots. They didn't have someone that
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came into the frame getting a close-ups right.
So. I mean I remember when I worked
for raging it was always 2 cameramen but this was 2007.
This was a long time ago, so I don't know what to do now.
But yeah, it's been it's when I worked for them.
It was always, I'll never forgetis Ben Leon was the cameraman.
He was always the cameraman for all my shoots.
And he was super fun, a super tiny little guy, but he was
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always up in the action. It was it was it was a it was a
different era of porn. Boundaries and consent or huge
and kinks. So how do you establish them
with your partners both on and off camera?
Do you have a conversation with them ahead of time?
Or how do you establish boundaries when it comes to a
fisting session? A fisting session.
I mean, I do, I do ask them, youknow, do you like depth or do
you like shallow? Do you like yanking?
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I have some things like that, but it's kind of like touch and
go as we proceed. If someone wants to collab with
me, they see my content so they have an idea of what to expect.
And then we can have a conversation if it's needed,
about how far are we going to push it, how or how are we going
to dial it back. But we typically have that
beforehand so that there are no surprise surprises.
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But obviously things can change.Nothing is set in.
Stone as the moment for breakfast.
Yeah, but there's no like I don't bring out a list of do you
like piss play? Do you like me show?
Do you like your hair? Like, it's nothing like that.
What I started getting out with that, with that question is how
important it is to have communication ahead of time is
that it's like it's kind of knowwhat each other, what you're
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looking for in a session. Basically.
So many times, I mean, I'll get,I'll get fisted by guys that
come in and they just immediately go, you know,
because it depends on my mood for that day.
It depends on what kind of fisting I want that day.
And sometimes they'll go zero toshoulder in one second.
I'm like, fuck, man. I'm like I need a little bit of
warm up. It's just the importance of
communication. It's just important to have
those conversations ahead of time for safety concerns and
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stuff like that. Yeah, it's you can.
I'm, I'm very intuitive by nature and like, I'm very good
at picking up another person's frequency and connecting really
rapidly. But when I am, let's say,
collabing with someone where youknow, there is a disconnect,
there is going to be more time and attention spent to, you
know, boundaries because I can, I can tell that we need a little
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bit more of a deeper conversation.
But a lot of the time it's, it'salmost like an unspoken as well,
like agreement. Sometimes it, it depends.
But also, like I said, we're fisting.
You have to really have all yoursenses open when you're, when
you're inside someone or proceeding to that you
understand which way you should move and what they're enjoying
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and all of those things. But yeah, it varies on
individual to individual for me,yeah.
That's true. Everybody is different.
So it's you kind of kind of haveto learn to adapt.
There's no one-size-fits-all forfisting, basically.
Yeah. So this is kind of I'm curious,
how did you decide to get started in doing content
creation? What was it?
It was just a natural progression.
So I had just been recording pleasurable sex videos before I
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started content, before I started monetizing off of
content. So it's very natural for me.
I'm a creative at heart. Some of my collabs are actually
from years before I started making content like my.
Posting all the videos. Yeah, exactly like my one with
Gape Factory, you know. Man, I love him.
Yeah, amazing. Beautiful.
(22:23):
Yeah, great ass. So that that was like just as an
example, and I can't remember ifI fisted him in that in that
video, but yeah. So it's it was just a natural
progression for me. I wanted to do something where I
could already use the talents that I have, but then have the
accessibility to travel, create my own schedule, and then just
do the other things, the other goals that I wanted to do.
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So it was, it was I just had to come to terms with, you know,
when you create content, doors close, but some doors open.
So I think if you're at peace with that and you're at
understanding, then it's an easysort of step you're smart to
commit to. You're smart to keep your face
hidden cuz I'm sure you still maintain some level of anonymity
(23:06):
out there in public. I do, yeah.
That's amazing. You're very lucky because it's
once that anonymity is gone. I've had a couple, several
conversations about this. Once that anonymity is gone,
it's it's hard to get back. It's it's impossible to get
back. It's impossible.
So what was that? Was that sort of the idea behind
keeping your face hidden? Well, I like, for example, I
was, I was in New York for Prideand I was with someone who is
(23:27):
very popular online and I could be standing next to them and no
one would know that it's me. So it's I like that I can move
in gay spaces and freely and notnot be recognized because it
wasn't the reason reason that I got into doing this.
So I do enjoy that. I also enjoy I like the idea of
mystery. You know, I think mystery is
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sexy. I don't think that revealing all
your cards is the play that I want to go by.
And so I, I do enjoy that as part of my, my content, a
subscriber could be imagining their next door neighbor.
They could be imagining the milkman that just dropped off,
you know, the carton of milk or like, you know, they're, they're
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a high school bully, you know, like behind the mask.
So I like fulfilling the the mystery of like sexual fantasy
and I feel that for me, revealing the face would it was
just not it wasn't a component that I felt like I needed.
It works for you. It works for you.
I mean, yeah, it works. It definitely works.
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What do you, what do you think some of the misconceptions
people have about fisting are, whether that's a top or bottom
or about what you do specifically.
Do you think that there's still challenges that people in this
line of work might not see? Or generally speaking, like what
kind of misconceptions do you think people have about fisting?
I guess just to like double backon what I said previously that
sometimes it could be looked as very aggressive.
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I don't think a lot of people, Imean, but there's a lot of
aggressive fisting out there. But it is is, you know, you can
only be that aggressive because there's a there's a connection,
there's a level of intimacy that's already been established.
So I think train attention that it is a very intimate practice
between two individuals or multiple individuals.
Are there misconceptions? I don't know why sometimes
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people are scared of the idea. Yeah.
Everybody thinks it's gone. No.
Also, I think some people it does vary case by case.
You know, I know someone who's agreat fisting bottom.
I have a video coming out with him soon, Arno, and he had only
been fisting for a year, but hishe like trained his whole to
like master pro level. So I find that sometimes people
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just have to be cautious when they're getting into fisting.
Don't move too quick. Listen to your body because that
create that can create accidents.
And I know many people that havehad accidents from jumping into
fisting too soon. So there's no one size that fits
all. The timing is very personal for
each individual, so don't rush the process because then it's
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things could go left. How did you come up with the
name Horse Papa? What is it?
What does it mean to you and howdoes it how do you feel it
represents you? I'm curious to hear.
I'm always curious to hear how people come up with their names.
Well, I like the idea of horse. It's such a strong animal, you
know, horse stick, horse cock. And then I'm Latino, so I went
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with Papo and it just, it was really just as simple as that.
You know, here's my horse stick and I'm ready to plow.
Be like, you know, Latin stallions, steed, you know, like
in that vein of like macho fucking.
Yeah, it kind of they they when you get a good name, I feel like
clicks, you know right away thatthat's the right name for you.
Hunger FF came to me and I remember when I decided on
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Hunger FF, it was the first namethat I kind of came up with and
I was like, it sounds right. And now there's and there was
nobody else that was doing. Everybody else had horn names at
that point. Nobody was really using screen
names. And so like I was, I'm just
going to go, you know, like Cheror Madonna or something like
that, some kind of single name where people could just write.
But now, but now it's funny, everybody, people call me Hunger
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as if that last name is FF. They're like Mr. Hunger that I'm
like, no, it's, you know, it's just Hunger.
FF. It's one word.
So like I said earlier, you seemto be blowing up in the industry
right now. How has has the rise felt sudden
to you? And how are you handling the
momentum and attention that comes with this kind of massive
influx of attention that you getfrom from doing content at the
(27:22):
level of what you're doing? Well, it's, it's been officially
two years now, so I feel like it's been steady.
I feel like it's been steady. I'm, I'm OK, I'm actually OK
with, with, with, you know, moreeyes on my page.
Like I said, I, you know, I havea mask so I can move in spaces
and freely and not feel like, you know, like my privacy is
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being interfered with. I do enjoy it.
I love sharing my sexual experiences with my fans or with
anyone that might be curious about sex, you know, and yeah,
there's, there's not, I don't have many hang ups in terms of
like my visibility, but I'm happy that people are
recognizing my work. That's, that's what it what I'm
most proud of because like I said, everything is sort of my
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point of view. I'm not reinventing the wheel,
but I like that, you know, honormy ideas even and though maybe
they're a little bit more camp or maybe they're on the nose.
It's, it's been a fun process for me.
So I'm proud that people resonate with with the work that
I do. I definitely do.
It's, yeah, it's super odd. So.
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And I like that you're creative with it too.
I mean, I know that for me, the creative part is I actually
really love editing. I love doing.
I love making something that I feel people are going to really
get off to. And when I make something that's
really, really cool, I get so excited about sharing it with
people. I get some, oh man, I can't wait
to get this out in the world. I've got a couple videos that
I've got in the bank right now that I'm waiting to release all
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sequentially that are so fuckinggood.
And I'm just like, itching to get them out.
Like this, the creation process where the creation process is
supposed to be fun, you know, like that's the point of being a
content creator is you. I I want to enjoy the journey of
this. Yeah.
So where if people are just kindof just first hearing about you
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on the show or just kind of recently discovering you, where
can people find more of the content that you're creating?
Are you on? You're on just for fans.
I know that yes, but where else can they find some of the stuff
you've? Been making so I have a just for
fans. I also have an only fans that
will be having its official launch soon.
It won't have all my content. Obviously there's a little bit
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more restrictions or a lot more restrictions on only fans.
And then I also have my Instagram as well.
And there will be more pages. I'm sure TikTok will open up
soon too. And those are, those are my main
platforms, yeah. OK, awesome.
So send me them and I'll includethem in the the description for
the for the episode. This has been really great.
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That's actually the wrap up for my questions.
This is pretty, this is, yeah, this was really great.
I'm grateful for your time. Like I said, third time I think
I said it is. I'm a big fan.
I'm really excited to have you on the show.
I'm really grateful for your time to take time to talk to me
about this stuff and just hear about kind of your journey and
how you think about things. And I think we think about
things a lot more similarly thanI realized.
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It's the creative aspect of it. And I've always said to myself
that if I'm not having fun with it anymore, it's time to stop.
As long as I'm still having fun.That's, you know, that's
partially why I started the podcast because I was starting
to get a little burnt out on content.
So I was like, I need to do something fun and get me kind of
like excited about about making,making, making content events.
Yeah. The burnout.
Thank you so much. I just wanted to say the burnout
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is definitely real. So, you know, if you, if you
need time to sort of like step away, do that.
If you need to pivot, do that. Yeah, exactly what you said.
Like it's this is supposed to befun and enjoyable.
We want to enjoy our sex lives. And, you know, if we have the
opportunity to share them with others, great, you know.
And make a little money doing it.
I mean, make a little money. And of course, give back.
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You know, I you know, with GoFundMe and but also since I
started, a portion of my proceeds go to certain
charities. So the main three were the HIV
league and then the trans healthline and then the free speech
coalition. Right now, a portion of the
proceeds is still going to the trans health line and the free
speech coalition. I think just for fans took off
(31:14):
the partnership with the HIV league or it's like married into
another Ave. But I also think like it's
important to give back, you know, if it's not monetary even
time, you know, or whatever, whatever, whatever you can sort
of do you're. You're a really good guy.
Thanks. Underneath.
Underneath the giant tick you'veactually got, you're actually.
Really nice guy. That's nice.
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Thank you again for your time. Yeah, and the Fist and the Fist.
Exactly. So you guys, if you guys are
enjoying the show, we are on Apple, Amazon, Spotify, YouTube
and iHeartRadio. New episodes go live on
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You're welcome to then nice early access goes live for
(31:57):
Spotify subscribers as early as I'm done editing them.
Sometimes it's, you know, Wednesdays, Thursday, sometimes
it's an hour before the actual live episode goes up, but I'm
generally speaking they're they're available early for
Spotify subscribers. Again, Horse Papo, thank you so
much. Thank you for having me, I.
Will see you guys next week. Have a good night.
Thanks for going deep with me onHunger FF Presents Prolapse.
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I'll see you on the next episode.
Welcome to Brolapse, the fistingpodcast that goes deep explore
my life, views and raw, unfiltered conversations with
the creators that are redefiningkink connection in the fisting
community. Hey guys, welcome back.
We're back for another episode of Brolapse, and I'm actually
really stoked about today's guest.
He's somebody that I've been watching for the last couple
months on Twitter or on X rather.
(00:21):
He's blowing up horse. Popo is on the show today.
So welcome. Welcome to Pro Labs.
Yes, thank you for having me. Happy to be here.
Yay, I am a big. I was just telling you I
subscribe. You're just for fans.
I watch all your videos and they're fucking intense and
super, super hot. You've like, been blowing up
like crazy lately, it feels. So thank you.
Yes, thank you. I'm trying not to.
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Sometimes I try to show a more softer side.
Yeah. So I don't want to scare off
everybody. Yeah, but it's it's a mix.
But yes, it is. You know, the the tagline is
Macho Fucker. So yeah, that's to be expected.
Yeah. Subscribing.
That's, and so how did you, you've done some fisting
content, I mean, 'cause that's, that's what I watch.
(01:03):
And so I scroll through your feed and I find you with the
fisting videos. And so how did you first get
into fisting? And was it something that you
discovered on your own through friends online or what was how
did you, what was your first fisting experience?
So I think my first fisting experience was in New York.
It was pride. I had just turned 21 and I came
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into the city and I'm this is a little lead up to to what I'm
going to say, but I went into the city.
I walked into a bar. This hot little muscle Latino
guy saw me, beeline to me, pushed me against the wall, took
me to the stalls and just jumpedon my Dick.
OK, and that's that was sort of when I realized that I have a
(01:49):
slightly larger Dick than average.
OK, so while I was out in New York during this pride stint,
there were people asking me to fist them.
So I found that having a big Dick is somewhat synonymous with
fisting. Typically someone who gets
fisted can handle a larger appendage.
Yeah, sure. And sometimes it's more
(02:09):
comfortable too, you know, like,yeah, for me, being of a larger
size, you know, everyone has their own taste.
But sometimes when a, when a hole is a little bit on the
looser side, it's more pleasurable for me.
Yeah. So fisting goes hand in hand
with big Dicks. You.
Know what it's like for me when I the the rare occasion that I
do top, I'd like to fuck open holes because my Dick hurts if
(02:32):
I'm trying to shove it in something that's super tight.
It doesn't feel good to me. So it does.
And you're right. I mean fisting and and big
Dicks. I always say that little hands
are like big Dicks for fisters because it's because we can
handle, you know, whatever all our hands are.
We see guys with small hands. Your thought?
And there's the size Queens thatalways go for the big hands too,
so that's hot. So what was your first actual
fisting experience like? Do you remember it?
(02:54):
I'm not sure if I can remember the details like there there are
specific encounters I've had with fisting.
I remember the first time I was fisting this older daddy with
like a huge ass and it was the first time I was stroking my
Dick inside of his ass. That was the first time I ever
did that. So I remember that it was at his
hotel and we did ass up always aplus.
(03:16):
And then I remember another timewhere I was just like staying at
a Airbnb and I think I was having sex with someone, but I
was so horny. And this guy messaged me on an
app and he sent a, sent me a picture of his hole.
And it was like so open. And I was like, come over.
He bent over and took down his pants, big hole, no Lube,
(03:38):
straight in. And like he, he didn't, he
didn't want me to use the Lube or anything.
It was just so it was a huge turn on.
You know it was a huge turn on, but I can't pinpoint the exact.
First time I ever fisted. But those are two really good
stories anyways. Yeah, they were.
They're like the big ones, the stand out.
Nice. So you're known primarily as I
(03:59):
feel like known primarily as a top, yes, but you are doing some
like solo dildo play and stuff like that on your on your page
now. And so that's been really hot to
watch. So what, what was it like to
shift gears that way, both personally and in terms of like
your content creation? How did you decide to start
doing that? Well, I have a backside.
I always say it's like a counterweight system so you know
(04:20):
the motion of the ocean. So I just knew it was something
I was I was going to do. I felt comfortable with it, I
think. But when I watch porn, what I
like is actually watching the tops ass like pumping into a
hole. I love that.
So I knew that the way that I want to showcase my work would
have that some would have that angle or somewhat of that.
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And so using toys was just a sort of natural progression.
I haven't technically bottomed on camera yet, but I do have a
you coming coming soon. And it is it is quite intense
because I'm just preparing the audience to get used to seeing
the bottom. There will be exclusive videos,
you know, so if you want to juststay with the top side, there's
(05:02):
that. But if you want to see a little
bit more of the premium bottoming content, you have the
option for that. But yeah, it'll be an exclusive.
You're such a businessman. Same situation part of me.
Such a businessman. Well, it's more so, you know,
sometimes people, I don't want to really use this word, but
they sometimes get a distaste when they see a top start
(05:25):
bottoming. So I just wanted to get people
used to that idea before just rolling out with me getting my
cheeks pounded, you know? But a lot of my subscribers, I
like, I take polls and and all of that.
And, you know, like over 90% want to see me bottom or they
love my ass play solos. Yeah.
(05:47):
And I'm happy to give it to them.
I your polls on on your just forfans pretty frequently.
Yeah, it's always just to get a little bit more insight on on
them and our sexual experiences.Yeah.
Do you find the fisting content is different than filming
traditional regular Dick and butt sex?
Or is there Is this sort of all the same for you?
It is somewhat the same only because, like I said, having a
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big Dick has has made fisting sort of hand in hand.
You know, a lot of the men that I've fucked through through my
life have been into getting fisted too, because, you know,
if they're seeking out a larger Dick.
So it's not too much of a departure of what I already do.
And same with, you know, having a larger penis is like you have
(06:30):
to understand the bottom that you're having sex with and the
pace that you need to go in go, you know, with the the sort of
connection and that's needed, the style that they like.
And it's the same with fisting. I do find that maybe fisting has
a little more cleanup, perhaps with, with the Lube, with the
Lube, maybe a little bit more preparation time and maybe a
little bit more mindfulness of, you know, responding when you're
(06:56):
inside them. You know, because everyone's
whole, you just have to have more, more sense as a tune with
the person that you're insertinginside.
Yeah, I always. But it is similar.
I ask guys usually before I start playing with them, what do
I need to know about your butt hole before I start?
What do I need to know? Because everybody likes
something a little different andI try to adapt to the bottoms
that I that I'm fisting when I when I do it.
(07:16):
So let's talk about this. So your body's insane.
Seems like you're in the gym a lot.
So how does your fitness routineconnect to your sex life and do
you have Do you think your physique changes the way that
people approach you or see you in the scene?
I think so think well, I mean, being in the gym obviously
brings confidence for me aside from, you know, Wellness and the
(07:38):
holistic reasons for exercise. But I I also need to.
I find that like I'm on a filming trip right now.
I've noticed that my stamina hasgone on a lot better in and out
of the gym because I'm just. It's a lot of pounding.
Yeah, a lot of. It's a lot of cardio, right.
I guess being mindful of my cardio does make sex more
(07:58):
enjoyable. I go by force, Papo.
So the the word is like endurance, right?
Which is what I like too. So I don't want my body to give
out while I'm still wanting pleasure.
So I try to keep my physique in,in good condition.
Obviously, what someone may perceive as in bad condition may
not be true. You know, let's say like someone
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who's bodybuilding, they go through a bulk phase and a
cutting face, right? But you know, their heart health
or they're just like, their Wellness can still be up there,
but. And your videos are long I feel.
Yeah, they are. Yeah, some of them are short it
it kind of just depends, you know, I I sort of switch it up
like sometimes some, some of them are under 5 minutes, but
you know, then it would be like a hot hookup sort of scene.
(08:41):
Most of my videos are like 30 plus minutes.
Yeah, I know. I I was watching 1 I think.
Was it definitely, definitely that Jason?
Yes, yeah, that was a 45 minute video.
I was watching the whole I was like long.
So it's super hot. I actually just took a poll to
recently asking my subscribers what do they prefer?
And there was an option of I think 30 to 45 minutes.
(09:04):
And everybody, most of the, the votes are for 30 to 45 minutes
or 50 to 60 plus or as long as possible.
And I, I do feel like if you're doing, let's say, like fisting
content or maybe some type of kink or fetish play, the more,
the more the merrier in my opinion, Because a lot of the
like, let's say if I go to someone who I'm going to going
(09:25):
to be fisting, sometimes they just put on a porn, a fisting
and it's just left on. It's almost like background
noise. So I feel like it's important to
maybe have those type of movies longer so that, you know, for
that purpose. Yeah, that's cool.
Yeah, I know. And that's that's, I mean, I
when I play in my playroom, I have a big projector screen that
I have I play porn on when I play, but the videos are always
(09:46):
minutes and they stop and I've got to be like, wait a minute, I
think I'm sure turn it back on. So if the longer, longer videos
are definitely, I look for the longer videos myself when I'm
playing, when I have something on the background, stuff like
that. So fisting is intense physically
and mentally. So what kind of prep do you do
before a scene, like as a top? And then also, how do you
recover afterwards, like after like a really intense session?
(10:06):
In regards to fisting or just having some type of sexual
intercourse. Yeah, I mean whatever.
I mean fisting or I mean specifically fisting just
because it is sort of, sort of it can be really intense and
really you develop. I mean, I feel fisting you get
like far more connected, I thinkor the chances of getting more
connected are are there. So I don't know if there's any
kind of kind of come down for you after after a fisting
(10:27):
session like that or? I was having a conversation with
with another creator recently. They were wanting me to fist
them and they were a little apprehensive just because some
of my fisting content is a little bit more aggressive.
But I was reminding him that fisting is actually it's about
deep connection, it's about intimacy, it's about feeling
safe in the other person's handsor arms.
(10:50):
And you know, if don't based offof like what I do here, that
it's going to necessarily be thesame for you.
Because there I fisted people where it is a lot more slower.
Maybe they're more into depth rather than shallow, shallow
punches. So I think in terms of like the
calm down, it's just it just takes more time.
It takes more time and attention.
(11:11):
Usually there's like penetrationinvolved too.
And if I'm breeding their their ass, then I'm fisting my load
inside them afterwards. So it's just, I'm not too sure
if I, I have a like a specific strategy in terms of coming
down. It's also very natural, natural
for me, you know, just connecting and enjoying,
(11:31):
enjoying each other in the moment.
Yeah, that's, I think the best kind of content that people can
make is when it's not transactional and it's more just
a connection in the moment. People can, people can sense
that and I can sense in the videos that you make, you seem
to always be having a really good time.
So yeah, yeah, it's it's really hot.
So who have been some of your favorite collaborators that
you've worked with, people that you've worked with or seen
(11:52):
specific scenes you're proud of that stand out to you?
In regards to fisting do well, this one has to come out yet,
but there's been a teaser for itmy collab with horse boy Zane.
OK, so he does a lot of dildo play and and fisto fisting play
and there's been a great demand to see both these stallions in
the same group. So we made it happen.
(12:13):
We have two videos coming out. I think stylistically wise it's
it's interesting it's kind of intense, it's dark, it's Moody.
If you have seen the trailer or the teaser, the trailer and the
the rest will come out later. But I do think that one is is is
quite nice. And there's also like a fisting
and a piss component in there too.
Another fisting scene would probably be my one.
(12:35):
Be the one with Punch Boy. That was very intense, very
intense. He's my spirit animal.
Yes, we go way back. Super nice guy, we had a good
time and his whole can take anything I know and he enjoys
it. He enjoys it.
So like for him, you know, the intense rapid thrusting is is
enjoyable for him. You know, for someone else it
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might be a little bit. Less I can do my best punch boy
impression is like fuck my dumb faggot pussy.
Yeah. I always love him so much.
I have such a good time with him.
And we actually had a we were atthis party in New York City
together called Manhole, and I was in the sling getting fisted
and he was underneath me gettingfisted.
(13:16):
We were getting fisted by the same guy and he was pulling both
of our prolapses out and like mashing them together.
And it was like, it was so fucking.
Fun making a cake. Making a cake.
Exactly. It was really fun.
I haven't seen, I actually don'tthink I've seen him since then,
but we still stay in touch and and he's a he's a great guy.
Yeah, super nice. Yeah.
So it's. Super deep.
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Super. I mean like super.
Deep. Super metaphorically speaking,
or physically deep? Both.
His hole is insane now. I I remember when I first
started fisting him he was really shallow and then I fisted
him at manhole and I was like bro when did this happen?
Like when when did this happen? It was really, really super hot.
I do have one more. I have many more.
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Honestly, a lot of my collapse have been stellar for different
reasons. But in regards to fisting one,
also my fisting video with Nate Grimes, I think that was really
hot. It was just super frothy, very
creamy. So if you like seeing a creamy
gaped out hole, that one is sublime.
But I actually I do have a lot more fisting content coming out
(14:21):
soon that I filmed recently and it's a plus.
We got to do something together.One day after I'm fueled, I'm
healed and back together. Back together and my body's back
like I was. Still definitely, yeah.
It'd be super hot. So I mean, my, my accident
wasn't for 30 inches inside me. Everything is still OK from
there. There.
Yeah, it'll be super. That'll be super hot.
What aspects of your content or style are you trying to push
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forward right now? Are the things that you wish
more people understood or saw differently when it comes to
fisting or kink content? I do, you know, I, I believe
that the point of making contentwas sort sort of to create an an
amateur style lane for anyone that decides to showcase their
point of view. And I do think that sometimes
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people are too worried about things looking to produce, which
I think there is a perfect lane for that.
But at the same time, you know, these platforms were were
created to be adjacent to studios.
So I. Think so much.
Because we're yes, but I do, I do think both are important.
You know, I have scenes where there's certain types of studio
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lighting where it's, you know, I'm not looking so much as
shadows or I'm having someone else film it.
But I guess for me with how I approach my content, I just kind
of go with what is my gut telling me to do because I know
my gut will never fail me. So if I'm feeling like, you
know, my like my video with Punch Boy, it had like a Kill
Bill sort of spin on it. I don't know if you've noticed
(15:48):
it, but there's a part that goesblack and white.
So it's almost like the berserk scene that Beatrix Kiddo goes
into. So, you know, it might not be
the conventional sort of porn, but it's fun for me.
And the whole point of this is to enjoy my sexuality and to
invite people to to see that, tosee my sexuality through through
my lens. So, you know, if I feel like
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doing that, I'm going to do it. And then if I feel like doing
something else that's a little bit more produce, I'm going to
do it. And I'm not too worried about,
you know, that it has to be a specific way.
You know, I have AI have a moviethat's going to be coming out
with at Steel where, you know, we had a smoke machine in a
backdrop. And it's it's very Moody, a lot
of dark and bright dark lights and shadows.
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And I wanted it to look like a vintage sort of 80s style
poured. And so then it comes to the
question of what what looks moreproducer, what's not because it
wasn't filmed by someone, but itis technically like a studio
style. I sort of just go with what what
my gut tells me. There's this quote I sort of
live by where it's actually LadyGaga said it and it's she was
(16:56):
talking about when she writes music, she said honoring your
vomit. And what she meant by that was
if something comes out of you, take it, marinate on it and work
on it. And don't just discard it
because you thought of somethingbetter.
Maybe you don't want to work on it right now, but you can put it
off to the side and maybe come back to it later.
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But don't, don't discard, you know, your intrinsic ideas.
And so I, I try to remember thatI had a collab with somebody and
they kept thinking of, well, let's do this.
This is a better shot, This is abetter shot, This is a better
shot. And I, I didn't tell them this
advice because, you know, you still want to keep the mood, but
I think that, you know, your first idea is typically a good
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idea and you can use that betteridea or the different idea on
another shoot. Don't put too much stress on
yourself on it has to be perfectbecause you're your gut, your
idea is already perfect. Just iron out the kinks.
I I've always, for me, what's always worked has been static
cameras, multiple static camerasthat I then just kind of switch
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back and forth between. I've experimented more recently
with having a cameraman and doing more production style
shoots and I'm still going to always be a camera in the tripod
in the corner kind of guy. Like it's, they always seem
more. I know that the cameraman shoots
are so much easier to edit. I don't know if you do your own
editing and stuff but like I do,I do so the camera man stuff is
so much easier to edit but but Imust I feel my aesthetic has
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always just been fly on the wall.
Right, which is sexy. Yeah, because I was really so
excited when the fan content stuff started.
The movement started because I was I've, I'm from studio porn.
Like I grew up in studio porn. I grew up in Raging Stallion.
And so I was so excited to see it go more amateur because
that's the kind of porn I like to watch.
So when I started making it and now I see this kind of
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regression or not regression, but there is a lot more polished
looking amateur porn now today and there and there was.
Which which is good too. Like I'm not saying that's, you
know, I I like I like a mix, buteven with like raging Stallion
and I think Titan, I think even they would have like stationary
camera shots. They didn't have someone that
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came into the frame getting a close-ups right.
So. I mean I remember when I worked
for raging it was always 2 cameramen but this was 2007.
This was a long time ago, so I don't know what to do now.
But yeah, it's been it's when I worked for them.
It was always, I'll never forgetis Ben Leon was the cameraman.
He was always the cameraman for all my shoots.
And he was super fun, a super tiny little guy, but he was
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always up in the action. It was it was it was a it was a
different era of porn. Boundaries and consent or huge
and kinks. So how do you establish them
with your partners both on and off camera?
Do you have a conversation with them ahead of time?
Or how do you establish boundaries when it comes to a
fisting session? A fisting session.
I mean, I do, I do ask them, youknow, do you like depth or do
you like shallow? Do you like yanking?
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I have some things like that, but it's kind of like touch and
go as we proceed. If someone wants to collab with
me, they see my content so they have an idea of what to expect.
And then we can have a conversation if it's needed,
about how far are we going to push it, how or how are we going
to dial it back. But we typically have that
beforehand so that there are no surprise surprises.
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But obviously things can change.Nothing is set in.
Stone as the moment for breakfast.
Yeah, but there's no like I don't bring out a list of do you
like piss play? Do you like me show?
Do you like your hair? Like, it's nothing like that.
What I started getting out with that, with that question is how
important it is to have communication ahead of time is
that it's like it's kind of knowwhat each other, what you're
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looking for in a session. Basically.
So many times, I mean, I'll get,I'll get fisted by guys that
come in and they just immediately go, you know,
because it depends on my mood for that day.
It depends on what kind of fisting I want that day.
And sometimes they'll go zero toshoulder in one second.
I'm like, fuck, man. I'm like I need a little bit of
warm up. It's just the importance of
communication. It's just important to have
those conversations ahead of time for safety concerns and
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stuff like that. Yeah, it's you can.
I'm, I'm very intuitive by nature and like, I'm very good
at picking up another person's frequency and connecting really
rapidly. But when I am, let's say,
collabing with someone where youknow, there is a disconnect,
there is going to be more time and attention spent to, you
know, boundaries because I can, I can tell that we need a little
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bit more of a deeper conversation.
But a lot of the time it's, it'salmost like an unspoken as well,
like agreement. Sometimes it, it depends.
But also, like I said, we're fisting.
You have to really have all yoursenses open when you're, when
you're inside someone or proceeding to that you
understand which way you should move and what they're enjoying
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and all of those things. But yeah, it varies on
individual to individual for me,yeah.
That's true. Everybody is different.
So it's you kind of kind of haveto learn to adapt.
There's no one-size-fits-all forfisting, basically.
Yeah. So this is kind of I'm curious,
how did you decide to get started in doing content
creation? What was it?
It was just a natural progression.
So I had just been recording pleasurable sex videos before I
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started content, before I started monetizing off of
content. So it's very natural for me.
I'm a creative at heart. Some of my collabs are actually
from years before I started making content like my.
Posting all the videos. Yeah, exactly like my one with
Gape Factory, you know. Man, I love him.
Yeah, amazing. Beautiful.
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Yeah, great ass. So that that was like just as an
example, and I can't remember ifI fisted him in that in that
video, but yeah. So it's it was just a natural
progression for me. I wanted to do something where I
could already use the talents that I have, but then have the
accessibility to travel, create my own schedule, and then just
do the other things, the other goals that I wanted to do.
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So it was, it was I just had to come to terms with, you know,
when you create content, doors close, but some doors open.
So I think if you're at peace with that and you're at
understanding, then it's an easysort of step you're smart to
commit to. You're smart to keep your face
hidden cuz I'm sure you still maintain some level of anonymity
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out there in public. I do, yeah.
That's amazing. You're very lucky because it's
once that anonymity is gone. I've had a couple, several
conversations about this. Once that anonymity is gone,
it's it's hard to get back. It's it's impossible to get
back. It's impossible.
So what was that? Was that sort of the idea behind
keeping your face hidden? Well, I like, for example, I
was, I was in New York for Prideand I was with someone who is
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very popular online and I could be standing next to them and no
one would know that it's me. So it's I like that I can move
in gay spaces and freely and notnot be recognized because it
wasn't the reason reason that I got into doing this.
So I do enjoy that. I also enjoy I like the idea of
mystery. You know, I think mystery is
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sexy. I don't think that revealing all
your cards is the play that I want to go by.
And so I, I do enjoy that as part of my, my content, a
subscriber could be imagining their next door neighbor.
They could be imagining the milkman that just dropped off,
you know, the carton of milk or like, you know, they're, they're
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a high school bully, you know, like behind the mask.
So I like fulfilling the the mystery of like sexual fantasy
and I feel that for me, revealing the face would it was
just not it wasn't a component that I felt like I needed.
It works for you. It works for you.
I mean, yeah, it works. It definitely works.
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What do you, what do you think some of the misconceptions
people have about fisting are, whether that's a top or bottom
or about what you do specifically.
Do you think that there's still challenges that people in this
line of work might not see? Or generally speaking, like what
kind of misconceptions do you think people have about fisting?
I guess just to like double backon what I said previously that
sometimes it could be looked as very aggressive.
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I don't think a lot of people, Imean, but there's a lot of
aggressive fisting out there. But it is is, you know, you can
only be that aggressive because there's a there's a connection,
there's a level of intimacy that's already been established.
So I think train attention that it is a very intimate practice
between two individuals or multiple individuals.
Are there misconceptions? I don't know why sometimes
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people are scared of the idea. Yeah.
Everybody thinks it's gone. No.
Also, I think some people it does vary case by case.
You know, I know someone who's agreat fisting bottom.
I have a video coming out with him soon, Arno, and he had only
been fisting for a year, but hishe like trained his whole to
like master pro level. So I find that sometimes people
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just have to be cautious when they're getting into fisting.
Don't move too quick. Listen to your body because that
create that can create accidents.
And I know many people that havehad accidents from jumping into
fisting too soon. So there's no one size that fits
all. The timing is very personal for
each individual, so don't rush the process because then it's
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things could go left. How did you come up with the
name Horse Papa? What is it?
What does it mean to you and howdoes it how do you feel it
represents you? I'm curious to hear.
I'm always curious to hear how people come up with their names.
Well, I like the idea of horse. It's such a strong animal, you
know, horse stick, horse cock. And then I'm Latino, so I went
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with Papo and it just, it was really just as simple as that.
You know, here's my horse stick and I'm ready to plow.
Be like, you know, Latin stallions, steed, you know, like
in that vein of like macho fucking.
Yeah, it kind of they they when you get a good name, I feel like
clicks, you know right away thatthat's the right name for you.
Hunger FF came to me and I remember when I decided on
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Hunger FF, it was the first namethat I kind of came up with and
I was like, it sounds right. And now there's and there was
nobody else that was doing. Everybody else had horn names at
that point. Nobody was really using screen
names. And so like I was, I'm just
going to go, you know, like Cheror Madonna or something like
that, some kind of single name where people could just write.
But now, but now it's funny, everybody, people call me Hunger
(27:02):
as if that last name is FF. They're like Mr. Hunger that I'm
like, no, it's, you know, it's just Hunger.
FF. It's one word.
So like I said earlier, you seemto be blowing up in the industry
right now. How has has the rise felt sudden
to you? And how are you handling the
momentum and attention that comes with this kind of massive
influx of attention that you getfrom from doing content at the
(27:22):
level of what you're doing? Well, it's, it's been officially
two years now, so I feel like it's been steady.
I feel like it's been steady. I'm, I'm OK, I'm actually OK
with, with, with, you know, moreeyes on my page.
Like I said, I, you know, I havea mask so I can move in spaces
and freely and not feel like, you know, like my privacy is
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being interfered with. I do enjoy it.
I love sharing my sexual experiences with my fans or with
anyone that might be curious about sex, you know, and yeah,
there's, there's not, I don't have many hang ups in terms of
like my visibility, but I'm happy that people are
recognizing my work. That's, that's what it what I'm
most proud of because like I said, everything is sort of my
(28:07):
point of view. I'm not reinventing the wheel,
but I like that, you know, honormy ideas even and though maybe
they're a little bit more camp or maybe they're on the nose.
It's, it's been a fun process for me.
So I'm proud that people resonate with with the work that
I do. I definitely do.
It's, yeah, it's super odd. So.
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And I like that you're creative with it too.
I mean, I know that for me, the creative part is I actually
really love editing. I love doing.
I love making something that I feel people are going to really
get off to. And when I make something that's
really, really cool, I get so excited about sharing it with
people. I get some, oh man, I can't wait
to get this out in the world. I've got a couple videos that
I've got in the bank right now that I'm waiting to release all
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sequentially that are so fuckinggood.
And I'm just like, itching to get them out.
Like this, the creation process where the creation process is
supposed to be fun, you know, like that's the point of being a
content creator is you. I I want to enjoy the journey of
this. Yeah.
So where if people are just kindof just first hearing about you
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on the show or just kind of recently discovering you, where
can people find more of the content that you're creating?
Are you on? You're on just for fans.
I know that yes, but where else can they find some of the stuff
you've? Been making so I have a just for
fans. I also have an only fans that
will be having its official launch soon.
It won't have all my content. Obviously there's a little bit
(29:29):
more restrictions or a lot more restrictions on only fans.
And then I also have my Instagram as well.
And there will be more pages. I'm sure TikTok will open up
soon too. And those are, those are my main
platforms, yeah. OK, awesome.
So send me them and I'll includethem in the the description for
the for the episode. This has been really great.
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That's actually the wrap up for my questions.
This is pretty, this is, yeah, this was really great.
I'm grateful for your time. Like I said, third time I think
I said it is. I'm a big fan.
I'm really excited to have you on the show.
I'm really grateful for your time to take time to talk to me
about this stuff and just hear about kind of your journey and
how you think about things. And I think we think about
things a lot more similarly thanI realized.
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It's the creative aspect of it. And I've always said to myself
that if I'm not having fun with it anymore, it's time to stop.
As long as I'm still having fun.That's, you know, that's
partially why I started the podcast because I was starting
to get a little burnt out on content.
So I was like, I need to do something fun and get me kind of
like excited about about making,making, making content events.
Yeah. The burnout.
Thank you so much. I just wanted to say the burnout
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is definitely real. So, you know, if you, if you
need time to sort of like step away, do that.
If you need to pivot, do that. Yeah, exactly what you said.
Like it's this is supposed to befun and enjoyable.
We want to enjoy our sex lives. And, you know, if we have the
opportunity to share them with others, great, you know.
And make a little money doing it.
I mean, make a little money. And of course, give back.
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You know, I you know, with GoFundMe and but also since I
started, a portion of my proceeds go to certain
charities. So the main three were the HIV
league and then the trans healthline and then the free speech
coalition. Right now, a portion of the
proceeds is still going to the trans health line and the free
speech coalition. I think just for fans took off
(31:14):
the partnership with the HIV league or it's like married into
another Ave. But I also think like it's
important to give back, you know, if it's not monetary even
time, you know, or whatever, whatever, whatever you can sort
of do you're. You're a really good guy.
Thanks. Underneath.
Underneath the giant tick you'veactually got, you're actually.
Really nice guy. That's nice.
(31:36):
Thank you again for your time. Yeah, and the Fist and the Fist.
Exactly. So you guys, if you guys are
enjoying the show, we are on Apple, Amazon, Spotify, YouTube
and iHeartRadio. New episodes go live on
hungerff.com. And just for fan slash hunger,
FF on Friday nights at 8:00 PM. I'll also give Horsepop a copy
for his Just for Fans. If you want to post it there.
You're welcome to then nice early access goes live for
(31:57):
Spotify subscribers as early as I'm done editing them.
Sometimes it's, you know, Wednesdays, Thursday, sometimes
it's an hour before the actual live episode goes up, but I'm
generally speaking they're they're available early for
Spotify subscribers. Again, Horse Papo, thank you so
much. Thank you for having me, I.
Will see you guys next week. Have a good night.
Thanks for going deep with me onHunger FF Presents Prolapse.
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