October 17, 2025 • 38 mins
This week on Brolapse, Ryan James sits down with Italian creator Blue Eyes XXL for one of the most honest and vulnerable conversations of the season. Known for his mix of elegance and edge, Blue Eyes opens up about leaving the fashion world for adult entertainment, finding freedom through exhibitionism, and building a brand that’s equal parts nasty and sweet.
They dive deep into the art of fisting, body potential, and the trust that turns physical intensity into true intimacy. From learning fisting from “old-school masters” in Naples to experiencing his first anal orgasm with @RoccoSteeleNYC, Blue Eyes reflects on the evolution of pleasure, connection, and the mental strength required to stay authentic in an industry built on fantasy.
Together, Ryan and Blue Eyes explore what it means to be seen — not just sexually, but humanly. They talk about burnout, boundaries, self-care, and how to stay grounded when fans blur the line between performer and person.
🔥 This episode celebrates sex, honesty, and creative self-expression — proof that even in the most extreme corners of kink, the real story is about being human.
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(00:00):
Welcome to Bro Apps, the fistingpodcast that goes deep explore
my life views and raw, unfiltered conversations with
the creators that are redefiningkink connection in the fisting
community. Hey you guys, welcome back for
another episode of Prolapse and I am very excited about today's
guest. He's somebody who my paths have
should have crossed with by now at this point, but hasn't yet.
(00:21):
So Blue Eyes XXL is on the show today.
So welcome to the show, welcome to Prolapse.
Hi everyone. So where are you from?
Where are you from? I'm from Italy.
OK, nice. Awesome.
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Because I think I was in. I must have been in Rome or
somewhere. I was somewhere in Italy or
think that what we were supposedto meet up.
I've been to Rome. Yeah, we have a friend in common
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who's that is, is a guy that is very interfacing.
And I mean, I know him, but we're not close friends.
So he was talking about you many, many months ago.
OK. You, you guys had to meet here
in Milan or maybe in Florida? Fabricio.
(01:05):
Yeah, Fabricio, yes. I love him.
He's my, he's my, he's my Italian husband.
OK. I love him so much.
That's so cute. Yeah, he's amazing.
I talk to him all the time. So great.
OK, OK. Yeah.
Yeah, that's cool to know that you know him.
I have a couple questions for you.
Yeah. How did you get started as a
content creator? OK.
(01:28):
I started officially in during the first pandemic, so in 2021,
totally late. I mean, because I'm, I'm 37,
almost 38 and I remember at thattime I was working for a very
important Italian luxury brand. So I was a little bit worried
(01:50):
about, you know, the, the negative way that being a porn
content creator could affect on my on my.
Fortunately, I decided to quit with fashion because I mean too
much responsibility, too much stress.
The earning was good, but was enough.
(02:11):
Good for living in such an expensive city as Milan.
Because I'm I I'm originally from Naples, but I've been
living in Milan since 1012. In the years CC the prices,
rents, everything increased, butsalaries are still very very
low. I think are the only the only
country in Europe where the salaries are, I mean the lowest
(02:33):
ones. Milan's a beautiful city.
I mean like it's. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So much fun I've been. Yeah, Yeah, it gives you a lot
of possibilities. And he's in the center of the
Europe, I mean. So in in one hour I'm in Paris
by plane, I'm in London is a very nice, I mean.
Very. Convenient.
Basically, yeah, I have to say that everything came very, very
(02:58):
naturally because when I, I, I, I mean, I, I joined for four
years sex clubs and, and, and gay parties.
Everyone, everyone used to used to ask me whether to become a
professional porn actor or live performer because you have the
attitude, you have the shape, you have something nice to show.
And I said, okay, why not? Probably it's the the the right
(03:21):
moment. We're all exhibitionists at
heart. Yes.
We all have to show off. OK, maybe, maybe maybe it's time
to start. So I started, you know, to
experiment to to, to understand what, what I liked and what was
my comfort zone. So awesome.
That's my starting point. Nice.
So was there a turning point that you realized that this
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could become more than just a hobby, or you just start as a
hobby and then turn into something that you were doing
for work or for work, but for your brand.
Basically, was there a turning point at some point where you
decided I'm going to do this seriously?
Yeah, you know what? I've been working as an escort
for many years, so I've always earned, you know, using my body
not just to give like sex dates,but the boyfriend experience,
(04:06):
but for yeah, certain kind of experience positive, possibly
unforgettable, you know, in order my fans to come back to to
with me in the future. Of course, when you see that
your fan base is increasing and with with platform as only fans
and just for fans, they are goodbusiness opportunities.
So I said, OK, I can try to makeit.
(04:28):
Yeah, it was was a business opportunity.
But when you consider yourself as a brand or potentially as a
brand, is is always a little bitdangerous because you'll
saleable. Yeah, most of the time you, you,
you lose your authenticity. You're not spontaneous anymore.
You're performing. You're no longer doing it for
fun. Yes, yes.
(04:49):
So. My main purpose was to to become
myself and to give my personality and be coherent with
with the way I am basically. Nice.
That's that's exactly the same philosophy that I have.
I've always just thought of myself as I want to just show
people what it's like for me when I have normal hookup, just
put a put a camera in the corner.
(05:09):
And I've recently started using a cameraman, but the camera in
the corner just kind of just so that there's, it's just me, the
person I'm fucking and the viewer in the room.
Basically there's no other person.
So it kind of keeps the authenticity real.
It keeps it keeps it grounded. So you've called yourself both
nasty and sweet. Yeah.
How do you balance those two sides of your persona and
(05:30):
content? You know this.
This is what the way I define myself.
But this is a fun suggestion. They have fun to see, they are
very creative and they suggest me to you know, to put this
definition in my bio. Nasty and Sweetness basically
have this. You're very boyish, yeah.
(05:52):
Especially with, with those glasses that gives me this,
this, you know, a boy told me that I, I look like a pervert
teacher or something. Yes, there's a lot of
creativity. The rest of my body is heavily
tattooed. So I had flowers on, on, on this
(06:12):
side. So it's very, you know,
colorful. But on the other side, I'm
totally black with, you know, dead birds and and bats and and,
and, and snakes. That's exactly, it describes
exactly what my personality and,and my attitude.
So I thought it was perfect because I have this, you know,
clean face, but I'm basically anexhibitionist.
(06:33):
I'm a I'm a sex machine. Sometimes I lie.
I love to enjoy, you know, groupso.
Yeah. Is is exactly the the mirror of
my my personality. You're preaching to the choir.
I got fisted five times yesterday.
I had five guys come over to fist me yesterday.
So I can relate to being a machine sometimes because I was
(06:53):
just, I woke up so fucking hornyyesterday and this boy that I
had spent the night, I was like,it's 8:00 in the morning.
I'm like, hey, can you fist me up really quick?
It just started the day off on aon a on a transient.
So I like that. I didn't realize that about your
tattoos. And that's kind of it's a
similar idea for full sleeve tattoos that I have have an idea
for one point in my life, some point in my life when I can get
(07:13):
them. But it's one side it's all about
like recovery and growth and potential, and the other side is
about like the decay and stuff like that.
Things like that I've been through.
So I had two full sleeves designed that I'm hopefully at
one point going to eventually get.
But I have a friend and niece that I really want to have to
have to do it. So I just to get my ass back
there. So, so who have been some of
(07:37):
your favorite collaborators thatyou've worked with so far and
why do they stand out to you? OK, you know, I work with a lot
of guys. Some of them are famous porn
stars, other ones are sexy and interesting guys, you know,
Maximum Grinder. So yeah, it doesn't matter
basically who you are meant my best videos are the ones where I
(08:00):
where you can see the connectionthat you can see the the the
chemistry. There are some very basic videos
made with just with the camera, no lights.
There are very rude videos, but probably they are the best ones
because you can the the the the,the real animal attitude.
(08:21):
OK, completely relaxed. I moan, I scream, I, I, I talk
with my partner, I'm completely,completely relaxed and, and
probably I don't know, that's what I want to offer to my, to
my farm days. And then that is real authentic
and. When it becomes overly produced,
(08:42):
it becomes, it feels too much like a porno to me and I want, I
want it to feel like a hookup. I want to feel the amateur vibe,
especially on sites like Just for Fans or Only Fans.
I'm really there for the amateurcontent and when it starts to
feel overly produced, it's kind of.
Yeah, they feel too much. You're not close anymore to
them. Yeah.
(09:04):
I received many, many complaints, OK, about the fact
that now I'm a little bit more popular, so I only work with
those famous porn stars, famous content creators.
Yeah, it's true because, becauseI'd lie if I'd say that I, I
don't like, you know, those, youknow, famous, famous performers.
Who wouldn't want to fuck a famous porn star?
(09:25):
Sorry, I said. Who doesn't want to fuck a
famous porn star? Yeah, I mean, that's true,
That's true. But at the same time I try, you
know, to make everyone happy is I know that it's difficult
because we have such a huge fun days.
You should try to create a balance between what what people
want. So it that's probably the most
difficult aspect to manage. Yeah, I I'm a little bit of the
(09:48):
opposite. I kind of just give people what
I, it's like, it's strictly for me, it's strictly fisting for
me, it's strictly prolapse stuff.
And if they don't like they can hit the roads.
But I, but I've kind of got myself into a little box because
I, I feel like kind of like I'vebeen sitting at 150,000
followers for the last two years.
And so I feel I've gotten that market and I've gotten all of
(10:11):
them. That's all I'm going to get.
No, you're right, I probably still need to understand because
everything is in progress. Of course you should try to
understand what what works and what doesn't work.
Yeah, I'm comfortable with whereI'm at.
I'm comfortable with making the content that makes me happy and
make, you know what I mean? I look at the way that I do my
content as a sexual documentary.It's just a documentary about my
(10:34):
sex life and, and so people are getting what I normally do and I
normally don't do. Yes, a whole lot of other stuff
other than fisting and big toys and stuff.
So I found my niche. Is there anybody that you still
want to work with? Anybody that you're eager to
eager to film with? Yes, many people.
There are some performers that Ithat I knew recently.
(10:57):
One of them is Tyler Rex. Love him.
All these guys, yeah. And we have to meet the defaults
on Autumn parade in Berlin. But he was sick so we cancelled
promise each other to to. He's for three.
We had a crazy weekend together in Berlin.
It was nuts. So this is a lot of fun, but it
(11:20):
was crazy. Yeah, and there's another and
there's another guy from France.He's Dimitri Venom.
He's extremely sexy. I met him in Milan during during
the live show. We fucked a little bit.
So there was a good chemistry and I think that it's it's the
right person because it's fucking sexy.
That's cool. So I was going to ask you about
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this. You've, you've tweeted about
cruising in some creepy places. Yeah, I I did my homework on you
before. I Yeah.
So you've cruised in some creepyplaces.
What do you enjoy about mixing sex and adventure in those
settings? I don't know.
I don't know. I think it's, it's something
that that I mean, I cannot explain.
I only can tell you that when I'm in this kind of places as
(12:08):
abandoned factories or public toilets or in empty places, for
example. Not not necessarily something
that must be creepy, but basement in parks during the
evening. I'm so not a cruiser, that's my
thing is. So I'm learning as I go because
I don't cruise. I'm so bad at it and so is
(12:29):
impressed by people that are able to do that.
Yes, yes, no, it's something that of course you 10 years ago,
I wouldn't do this kind of things, OK.
It's something that came step bystep, something that you have to
be comfortable, comfortable withand you have to feel it in this
moment. I feel some some shivers if I
sing, you know, to the fact thatI could fuck in, in, in public
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toilets or in the Parker in forest, especially during the
night, for example, because it'slike an animal instinct that
comes out and feel the adrenaline that is running
through your body. So it's probably something
connected with something primordial that is natural.
Yeah, that answer I don't know. No, that makes sense.
(13:14):
I mean, it's a nature and be an animal.
It's like but we are so. But, but even in dark rooms, for
example, I feel completely free in a certain way.
I feel like I'm a, I'm a, I'm a caveman that is totally, you
know, there's no innovations, so.
That's hot. Yeah.
(13:35):
I wish I had that gene. I wish I had that in me.
That was I just get to I get I'mI'm so I'm such a contradiction
because I am so out there on theInternet, but I'm so shy in real
life. It's it's a little hard for me
to put myself out there and do do cruising in public.
I'm much more likely to get on my phone and get on Scruff or
something at a bath house and belike who's close by, who's close
(13:55):
by. So but.
There's another example that could be stupid, but for example
being naked on a beach or or in a place where it is permitted it
make me feel so comfortable. So at Berlin, Folsom and other
events like that, you are clearly very comfortable with
pushing boundaries, I think, if that's safe to say.
(14:16):
So how does public play or fetish the street wear feed into
your creativity when it comes tofilming scenes are.
Very important. It's extremely important because
since I was a teenager, I mean, I was very, you know, into on
the ground gothic cyberpunk culture.
So me and and a group of friendsthat I, they are still my
(14:37):
dearest friends in in the present We used to play with, I
mean the look in the air when I had here.
Yeah, I had this huge colorful Mohawk.
Oh cool. Yeah, walk with those high
platform boots with chains everywhere, even even we vary
vary into body modification withpiercings with.
(14:58):
I see that you have your logs stretched and I had the same
stretch lobes. Now probably you can see that
there's a little hole here. Yeah.
And I stopped working. It wasn't permitted so I was
forced to take off everything. But yeah, enjoying a community
like the gothic community, the fetish community is something
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extremely important. So, so that kind of of of
apparel, the the fashion, the street that represents something
that makes me feel comfortable. And I have to say the main
purpose was and is still to probably to shake a little bit
people's people's mind. And most of the time is is is a
political statement as well, because there that you that
(15:43):
you're totally free and everybody should be, you know,
should enjoy this this type of up there character.
I know that like when I get geared up, it always just makes
me feel sexier, just makes me feel sexy.
Like if I'm geared up and I justdid an episode, last episode was
about latex and or one of my last episodes was about the
intersection between latex and fisting.
And I remember the first time I put on latex, I got a hard on
(16:05):
like immediately I was just like, fuck, this is so hot.
Like I love this. So yeah, it was.
I get that and I get about making the statement like people
really should just kind of it's,it's really, I feel bad for
people that are so kind of like closed off and closed minded to
like, you know, or are stuck in that kind of like
heteronormative, like this is how I need to behave, blah,
blah, blah, because it's so muchfun.
(16:26):
Yeah, which fun. And it's fun because in Folsom,
in I've never been to San Francisco.
I I I would love to join some. It just happened.
Yeah, yeah, I know many friends there at the moment.
But the fact that everything takes place in the city, OK, in
in in the neighborhood of Berlin.
But you get all the people walking around the city and and
(16:47):
they are close to, you know, people are very curious.
They watch you. They most of the time they ask
you they want to make a picture.So I think is a is a good way
to, you know, to make closer each other, you know, different
little different worlds that arecloser.
I want to go back to Folsom Berlin so bad.
I had so much fun when I went. Yeah, yeah, it.
(17:08):
Was a blast. I come back home regenerated
with a lot of energy. Yeah.
Nice. Oh, is that amazing?
Yes. It's like an experience that
everyone should do once in life.Nice.
Yeah, you said you're in Paris. You're you're an hour from
Paris. Yeah, OK, nice.
Well, maybe we can try. I mean, I'm coming for my
birthday, so next month. So maybe we can try and make
(17:29):
something happen when when I'm in when I'm there.
So let's OK, this is a fisting podcast and we haven't touched
on that. Let's talk a little bit about
that. So what was your origin story
with toys and fisting, and like,what made you keep going at it?
OK, the story starts in 2000. I don't remember, but I was 21
(17:49):
years old. So is is many, many years ago.
I remember that I was at university and and at that time
that social, social media didn'texist.
Few videos on the web, some yes,you can see some you could see
some, some fisting scenes, but just the movies.
So you have to buy some fisting movies.
(18:10):
Yeah, they were always more expensive too, right?
And they were very expensive. Yeah.
So what I learned about fisting,but at the time I was only
Fister I I've learned from 2 professional fisters.
So they were my my my main teachers for many months.
We met and they they they taughtme everything Yeah, about it
(18:31):
thing with with one of them I I'm still in contact.
Nice. The other one I think is would
would be 90 years old now. Oh, wow.
OK, yeah, if you're still with us.
But it was like craftsmanship. I don't know how to explain it,
but you needed somebody that. Know what they're doing?
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Yeah, was was, yeah, you need the teacher, you need the OK.
And that's what what I had. Then there there was a big gap
or 10 years because basically, OK, yes, was interesting.
But probably I was, I wasn't ready for for that.
Yeah. And during the pandemic, OK.
(19:15):
Because when everybody got into fisting during the pandemic.
Yeah, that's time to understand what what we wanted from life.
OK, I had some some some huge dildos and, and, and and plaque.
So I started with with hole stretching and I started
exploring and and feeling these new kind of sensations that
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never felt before and I liked it.
But that's the starting point ofmy.
You're a COVID fisting baby. Yes, yes, as a beginner, I'm
still a beginner that is. No, I mean, maybe I'm
intermediate level, OK in secondlevel.
Yeah, it's hot. I mean, I love the videos where
you're ramming yourself with bigtoys.
(20:01):
Yeah, yeah, I'm stuck. Does those bigger toys, I, I, I
do it step by step because I don't wanna.
I have of course some limits andI don't want to hold to reach
them too. Fast, of course, and you don't
want to hurt yourself. The message that I'm always
trying to send with this show isthis to take it easy and take it
slow. And it's not a race.
You might see crazy shit on the Internet, but those people have
(20:21):
been doing fisting for forever. So, you know, it's not a not a
huge race to get to, you know, crazy punch fisting.
No, no, no. You know what, sometimes I stop
for for many weeks because I don't know, I don't feel I want
to do it. And then I start again with, you
know, with the basic stretching with small toys 3 after I use
(20:46):
bigger toys is that is everything you have to you have
to pay attention. Yeah, you're very careful
because it's, it's not a challenge among us.
We, we are we. We have to respect our body and
and and understand what our limits are.
Yeah, you know, you know what happened.
You know what happened to me, right?
(21:07):
Yeah, yeah, I know. That was that was just a fluke
accident. But injuries are possible.
Yeah, very real. Of course, I'm referring to the
beginners. Yeah, expert fisters are
probably in another dimension. OK, so it's something that that
OK, it's terrible, but I can understand that can happen of
(21:29):
course, but with multiple body modifications as well we gene
with extreme sports is I think it's exactly the same.
There's some different. There's a level of risk involved
in every activity that we do. Exactly, Yeah.
So how did you come up with the name Blue Eyes XXL?
This is an interesting story because as I said before, all my
nicknames and all the things I Iwrite into into the values comes
(21:52):
from from something in particular.
Blue eyes is comes from the factthat since I was a kid, everyone
used to say that I had beautifuleyes.
What a beautiful eyes. You have big eyes, you have
sweet eyes. My French teacher at the high
school used to call me Bossier. That means beautiful eyes.
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So I said, OK, that's going to be my nickname because it's
memorable, because it's easy to to, I mean, understand is.
For those of you guys who are just listening and not watching,
he does have really beautiful eyes.
No, it's the truth. It's probably the only thing
that I said, OK, they accept it because for years and years and
(22:34):
years, everybody told me those eyes.
Beautiful, beautiful. I didn't understand at the
beginning. I said OK, maybe be useful and
so I decided to use it. XXL is because I have a big tool
between my legs. OK, very, very simple.
So that the eyes part is very cute.
That's very cute. Yeah, Yeah, it is.
Yes. But because it's very simple to
(22:54):
to remind so. Yeah, Blue Eyes XL, XXL, it's
it's very catchy. Yeah, it is so.
It's easy to remember. It sounds like you know, a
Japanese porn. I don't know teen teenager porn.
I don't know, it's something that I might be like I.
Don't know, I love that people aren't using traditional porn
(23:15):
names anymore. Some and so steel or so and so
Angel or so and so blah blah blah.
It's yeah, I love that people are using screen names because I
feel they're more, you get a better feel for who they are as
a person when when they use screen names for their porn
names. I have to say the truth
honestly, my name, my Italian name is Jovan name.
(23:35):
OK? So I wanted to use Johnny Blue
at the beginning, OK? But there are a lot of Johnny's.
There's Hiber Johnny, Johnny Bravo.
There's people used to make a confusion Johnny vibe, but no,
I'm Johnny Blue, your job. So OK, let's change it
completely. Yeah, it was a good decision.
(23:57):
Yeah. So you've mentioned on your on
your ex feed and orgasm. So what's your perspective on
the body's potential and how do you explore that in your
content? OK, it's something that I'm
still exploring because since I started with fisting, I had my
my first analogas. I didn't have it with the dildo,
(24:19):
but OK, I can say the name. My first analog orgasm was with
Bronco Stig. OK.
Well, I mean, yeah, it does giveamazing anal orgasms.
Yes, yes. I don't know.
Don't, don't ask me how, but it happened.
But he's a dear friend. I mean, we, we, I know him very
well. He's a very sweet person.
(24:42):
So probably that day the connection was so strong that I
had this unexpected reactions. So probably had the the the best
sex in my in my own life with him.
Yeah, he's the best when it comes to fucking Dick fucking.
I remember getting fucked by himand I was thinking this is what
Dick sex is supposed to feel like again.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's exactly what I what I
(25:03):
thought. Yeah.
This is where it. Wasn't fucking me so hard, was
very sweet and very deep and very I was totally relaxed.
I don't know if man, what had this, this could feel the
adrenaline and an explosion at the certain point.
And so Oh my God, what the fuck is this?
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And never, never experienced something like this before.
So from that moment I I started and I tried and I tried in
different positions with different tools and I found the
right combination. Hot.
There's nothing like it. I mean, for those of you guys
that are listening that haven't had Natal orgasm, I feel, you
(25:47):
know, I feel for you because I mean, you don't know what you're
missing yet. So it's anytime I have one it
always makes me like this and I piss slash comp the same time.
Yes. And I don't know what's coming
out of me, but something's coming out of me.
It's like some, the sensation isis a, is a, is a heavy session
(26:07):
of gym that that puts a lot of adrenaline in your body.
So you shake in, but you feel happy.
Yeah. Is addictive, so.
Everything in moderation. Yeah, yeah.
So talking about body potential,I think that is an unlimited
(26:29):
potential probably is everythingconnecting to the fact that I, I
touched some part of my of my body, the internal one that I
never touched before. So the reaction was totally
unexpected and and I couldn't explain why.
It's really cool when you feel new feelings you didn't know
your body was capable of. Yeah, it's it sounds a little
(26:50):
bit creepy when when I talk about these things with some
friends, they say, Oh my God, this is creepy, especially when
I say that if you feel someone deeply, you can feel the the
heart. Yes, they they are like but but
(27:10):
but it's amazing. Yeah, I love that.
I mean, when I can feel somebody's heart beating on my
fingertips, there's yes. There's no real way to get
closer to someone than that. Yeah.
It's like you're. Intimate.
So I mean, I mean, there's nothing it's, it's, I mean, is,
is hot and, and is an extreme kind of sex, but I think it's
(27:32):
extremely intimate. There's a lot of intimacy
between you and your partner because he literally goes inside
you. Yeah.
It requires a really deep level of trust and connection.
Yes. Otherwise you close, you don't
relax. It's a very bad sensation.
I can always tell in the first like 30 seconds of a fixing
session how it's going to go. For me, it just seems if the guy
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is too forceful, too fast or tooI shut down and even I shut
down, it's like there's people think I can get fisted by
anybody, but I really have to bementally into it to really enjoy
it. Yes, yes.
Or you have to eye them. Yeah, especially.
Inner so you have to talk with them and to say OK, more gently,
please don't don't push it. Don't turn the fit.
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I Yeah. It's all about communication in
the end. It's all about communication,
definitely so, yeah. And I think some people are
afraid to communicate. I've noticed that recently is
that people are afraid to voice what they want and what they
need. Yeah.
And. I one of my hopes for this show
is to just kind of encourage people to learn how to
communicate a little bit. Not better, but just
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communicate. Just stand up for yourself.
Stand up for what you want. Talk about what you want.
Talk about what you do. Very simple.
Makes for a much better session.Yes.
So you've got a ton of followerson Twitter or X now over
100,000. So what do you think it is about
your the videos that you're making that resonates with
people? Is it the authenticity that
you've brought to the videos? Probably yes that's probably
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what what what I mean allows me to keep this this big fan base
yeah a lot of time was very difficult but yeah I think that
that the fact that I that I keepmy authentic.
I mean as much as possible. I mean the Most of them are
faithful and the. People you want to fuck?
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Probably. I'm guessing too.
No, even. For example, I met a guy at the
gym, OK, that told me I was ashamed to talk with you because
I didn't want to disturb you. Because I recognize you, I know
you are. But I didn't want to talk
because I was ashamed. And I said, oh, no, if you're
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kind, if anybody would be kind, like you would be perfect.
And it's I am happy when people say hello or they want to, you
know, talk 5 minutes with you. Yeah.
Yeah, it just there's, there's a, there's a time and a place.
I've always, I, I always say it's if I'm out with my family,
if you recognize me, please don't come up and say hi to me.
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If I'm with my, if I'm with my grandmother out in the grocery
store, now is not the time, but gym, stuff like that, bars, it's
different stories. So I hope you stay that way with
the eagerness to talk to people that are because I get a little
jaded sometimes. I don't know what you know, I
when they say I love your work, I say thank you and then I don't
really know. What I mean, you know what,
sometimes you feel forced to give them something in exchange.
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OK, Yeah, actually during in sexclubs or during parties, you're
you don't know how to deal with them.
OK. What I try to do is to create
some limits. I mean, some the right distance
because most of them they they they think you're a sex toy.
So they start, you know, touching you that we touch.
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That that that's what gets me. Yeah, there's something upset me
and be very, very impolite at that point.
So what I try to do is to make them understand that you're
human being after all, so you'renot at their complete
disposition and it's all about respect and and being polite.
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That actually segues immediatelyinto what I was going to ask you
next, which was how outside of sex, as a as a real person, what
kind of things are you interested in?
Like what kind of keeps you grounded as a person?
As a person, I, I have few rules.
I mean, when I started with withI, I basically promised to
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myself that any time I I feel like uncomfortable or, or if I
don't feel in shape, for example, I have to quit.
I have to stop even for one week, two weeks, it doesn't
matter. This is a job that I like.
I've never I've never come back.I would never come back because
I can manage my time. I have a lot of free time.
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Of course, I have to earn. Yeah.
To pay the bills. You.
Gotta you gotta hustle, baby. Yeah.
So that's the base. But I think everyone should,
should care about their mental and physical health.
Yes, that's the most important things because unfortunately a
lot of people that I know, some some where my, my close friends,
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some they not OK, they had big problems.
Some of them committed suicide. This is a very serious problem
because there are some periods where you're more depressed or
you don't feel like things are not going but how you planned.
So you're more hungry and, and, and so you just have to stop,
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OK, And you have to recover yourself.
So that's what I try to do. I go to the gym or I spend €100
to go to dinner, for example. And I'm happy because I feel
that it's something that I that I deserve.
It's self-care. Yeah, and I stay with friends,
with family, I save some time to, to travel, for example.
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That's all. There's nothing, nothing
special. Well, that's.
Perfect, That's the perfect answer.
How do you stay grounded as a person?
You take care of yourself. Yeah, yeah, it's exactly what I
wanted to avoid, to be overstressed and be constantly
nervous. I know it's not for me.
Yeah. Good.
I have this privilege that I have the chance to manage my
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time and to decide how to go to holiday, for example, how long I
can stay. Yeah, I think anyone, anyone
should should do it. Nice.
This is my second to last question, essentially my last
question before I ask you where people can write you online.
And for creators that are just starting out in the industry,
what's 1 lesson that you wish that you knew at the beginning
when you first started that thatyou could bestow upon upon new
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creators? Yeah, yeah.
The answer is connected to the to the last question.
I knew it was Yeah, I was going to say yeah.
Because I know many young content creators that want to
start OK, but I see that they are very secure.
So when I talk with them, the best suggestion that I can give
them is not to put the earning at the top of the list.
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So they should understand why I really want to start.
And there's another important thing that in this time and age,
when a video or or or photo of you of your face, of your body
goes in Internet to the web, is almost impossible to delete it.
Yeah, OK. Make sure you're ready to cross
that bridge when you cross it. Yeah, so.
That's why I started very late, because I needed to understand
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what kind of problems this this worker generates and the way
that this job could affect on mypersonal life.
Yeah. OK, so probably the best thing
they should do is to speak with someone that has more
experienced and take more time to the side.
Yeah, that's great advice. I mean, yeah, it's, it's, it's
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once you cross that bridge into showing your face on the
Internet doing. You never come back.
You can't come back. I mean, and I made that
decision. I was 18 years old when I
started doing porn for Raging Stallion in 2007.
And if I could go back in time and tell myself I would have
been the actual lessons that that I, the things that I was
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afraid would happen never happened, but the things that I
never thought about happened. Because for me, the way that it
affects me is that I, it's so hard for me to find a boyfriend.
It's so hard for me to find because they get so intimidated
by the fact that I have this bigpersona on the Internet and
it's, it's difficult. And then, and if you would have
told me that I probably would have been never mind.
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But you know, is it was that's the one thing that I wasn't
prepared for, the how, how difficult it would be to find a
partner when you have an online persona like this.
Yeah, yeah. Or you find a partner and that
makes your you're the same job. Yeah, well, I tried that too.
That did not end well for me. No.
That did not end well. For me not a good idea.
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Yeah, so I decided after that I was like, no more content
creators. So like.
Yeah, totally agree. Yes, no, I was saying that that
that this job is not a for for everyone.
I mean, you have to be strong, you have to be skin perfectly
yes, yes, skilled. You must have the tools to to to
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fight with people, because maybeyou're lucky that your friends
can understand your decisions, but many of them maybe will
understand. So it's very it's very easy to
I'll be disappointed few advises, but but but good, good,
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good suggestions, yes. Good.
Awesome. Where that reaches the end of
the questions that I had for you.
No. I feel it flew by.
I really enjoyed talking to you.So where can people find where
can people find more about you on the Internet and what's
coming next for you? You have any big cult projects
or anything? I have some projects, maybe I'm
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ready to to make some live shows.
It's something that I was very ashamed because I don't know
why, but maybe it's time to, youknow, to to overreach, you know,
limits that I had. So I'm trying to to arrange some
some live shows in clubs or or in events.
Very cool. Is even it a work in progress
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and other videos with with that coming out?
Sweet. Awesome.
So you're on Just for Fans X? Are you on Blue Sky?
I'm on just for fans only fans and Twitter.
OK, cool. So I'll include the links to
your pages in the bio for the description, for the page or for
the and that's that. Thank you for your time.
Thank you. Thank you so much.
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episode.
Welcome to Bro Apps, the fistingpodcast that goes deep explore
my life views and raw, unfiltered conversations with
the creators that are redefiningkink connection in the fisting
community. Hey you guys, welcome back for
another episode of Prolapse and I am very excited about today's
guest. He's somebody who my paths have
should have crossed with by now at this point, but hasn't yet.
(00:21):
So Blue Eyes XXL is on the show today.
So welcome to the show, welcome to Prolapse.
Hi everyone. So where are you from?
Where are you from? I'm from Italy.
OK, nice. Awesome.
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Because I think I was in. I must have been in Rome or
somewhere. I was somewhere in Italy or
think that what we were supposedto meet up.
I've been to Rome. Yeah, we have a friend in common
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who's that is, is a guy that is very interfacing.
And I mean, I know him, but we're not close friends.
So he was talking about you many, many months ago.
OK. You, you guys had to meet here
in Milan or maybe in Florida? Fabricio.
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Yeah, Fabricio, yes. I love him.
He's my, he's my, he's my Italian husband.
OK. I love him so much.
That's so cute. Yeah, he's amazing.
I talk to him all the time. So great.
OK, OK. Yeah.
Yeah, that's cool to know that you know him.
I have a couple questions for you.
Yeah. How did you get started as a
content creator? OK.
(01:28):
I started officially in during the first pandemic, so in 2021,
totally late. I mean, because I'm, I'm 37,
almost 38 and I remember at thattime I was working for a very
important Italian luxury brand. So I was a little bit worried
(01:50):
about, you know, the, the negative way that being a porn
content creator could affect on my on my.
Fortunately, I decided to quit with fashion because I mean too
much responsibility, too much stress.
The earning was good, but was enough.
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Good for living in such an expensive city as Milan.
Because I'm I I'm originally from Naples, but I've been
living in Milan since 1012. In the years CC the prices,
rents, everything increased, butsalaries are still very very
low. I think are the only the only
country in Europe where the salaries are, I mean the lowest
(02:33):
ones. Milan's a beautiful city.
I mean like it's. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So much fun I've been. Yeah, Yeah, it gives you a lot
of possibilities. And he's in the center of the
Europe, I mean. So in in one hour I'm in Paris
by plane, I'm in London is a very nice, I mean.
Very. Convenient.
Basically, yeah, I have to say that everything came very, very
(02:58):
naturally because when I, I, I, I mean, I, I joined for four
years sex clubs and, and, and gay parties.
Everyone, everyone used to used to ask me whether to become a
professional porn actor or live performer because you have the
attitude, you have the shape, you have something nice to show.
And I said, okay, why not? Probably it's the the the right
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moment. We're all exhibitionists at
heart. Yes.
We all have to show off. OK, maybe, maybe maybe it's time
to start. So I started, you know, to
experiment to to, to understand what, what I liked and what was
my comfort zone. So awesome.
That's my starting point. Nice.
So was there a turning point that you realized that this
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could become more than just a hobby, or you just start as a
hobby and then turn into something that you were doing
for work or for work, but for your brand.
Basically, was there a turning point at some point where you
decided I'm going to do this seriously?
Yeah, you know what? I've been working as an escort
for many years, so I've always earned, you know, using my body
not just to give like sex dates,but the boyfriend experience,
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but for yeah, certain kind of experience positive, possibly
unforgettable, you know, in order my fans to come back to to
with me in the future. Of course, when you see that
your fan base is increasing and with with platform as only fans
and just for fans, they are goodbusiness opportunities.
So I said, OK, I can try to makeit.
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Yeah, it was was a business opportunity.
But when you consider yourself as a brand or potentially as a
brand, is is always a little bitdangerous because you'll
saleable. Yeah, most of the time you, you,
you lose your authenticity. You're not spontaneous anymore.
You're performing. You're no longer doing it for
fun. Yes, yes.
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So. My main purpose was to to become
myself and to give my personality and be coherent with
with the way I am basically. Nice.
That's that's exactly the same philosophy that I have.
I've always just thought of myself as I want to just show
people what it's like for me when I have normal hookup, just
put a put a camera in the corner.
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And I've recently started using a cameraman, but the camera in
the corner just kind of just so that there's, it's just me, the
person I'm fucking and the viewer in the room.
Basically there's no other person.
So it kind of keeps the authenticity real.
It keeps it keeps it grounded. So you've called yourself both
nasty and sweet. Yeah.
How do you balance those two sides of your persona and
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content? You know this.
This is what the way I define myself.
But this is a fun suggestion. They have fun to see, they are
very creative and they suggest me to you know, to put this
definition in my bio. Nasty and Sweetness basically
have this. You're very boyish, yeah.
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Especially with, with those glasses that gives me this,
this, you know, a boy told me that I, I look like a pervert
teacher or something. Yes, there's a lot of
creativity. The rest of my body is heavily
tattooed. So I had flowers on, on, on this
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side. So it's very, you know,
colorful. But on the other side, I'm
totally black with, you know, dead birds and and bats and and,
and, and snakes. That's exactly, it describes
exactly what my personality and,and my attitude.
So I thought it was perfect because I have this, you know,
clean face, but I'm basically anexhibitionist.
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I'm a I'm a sex machine. Sometimes I lie.
I love to enjoy, you know, groupso.
Yeah. Is is exactly the the mirror of
my my personality. You're preaching to the choir.
I got fisted five times yesterday.
I had five guys come over to fist me yesterday.
So I can relate to being a machine sometimes because I was
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just, I woke up so fucking hornyyesterday and this boy that I
had spent the night, I was like,it's 8:00 in the morning.
I'm like, hey, can you fist me up really quick?
It just started the day off on aon a on a transient.
So I like that. I didn't realize that about your
tattoos. And that's kind of it's a
similar idea for full sleeve tattoos that I have have an idea
for one point in my life, some point in my life when I can get
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them. But it's one side it's all about
like recovery and growth and potential, and the other side is
about like the decay and stuff like that.
Things like that I've been through.
So I had two full sleeves designed that I'm hopefully at
one point going to eventually get.
But I have a friend and niece that I really want to have to
have to do it. So I just to get my ass back
there. So, so who have been some of
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your favorite collaborators thatyou've worked with so far and
why do they stand out to you? OK, you know, I work with a lot
of guys. Some of them are famous porn
stars, other ones are sexy and interesting guys, you know,
Maximum Grinder. So yeah, it doesn't matter
basically who you are meant my best videos are the ones where I
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where you can see the connectionthat you can see the the the
chemistry. There are some very basic videos
made with just with the camera, no lights.
There are very rude videos, but probably they are the best ones
because you can the the the the,the real animal attitude.
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OK, completely relaxed. I moan, I scream, I, I, I talk
with my partner, I'm completely,completely relaxed and, and
probably I don't know, that's what I want to offer to my, to
my farm days. And then that is real authentic
and. When it becomes overly produced,
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it becomes, it feels too much like a porno to me and I want, I
want it to feel like a hookup. I want to feel the amateur vibe,
especially on sites like Just for Fans or Only Fans.
I'm really there for the amateurcontent and when it starts to
feel overly produced, it's kind of.
Yeah, they feel too much. You're not close anymore to
them. Yeah.
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I received many, many complaints, OK, about the fact
that now I'm a little bit more popular, so I only work with
those famous porn stars, famous content creators.
Yeah, it's true because, becauseI'd lie if I'd say that I, I
don't like, you know, those, youknow, famous, famous performers.
Who wouldn't want to fuck a famous porn star?
(09:25):
Sorry, I said. Who doesn't want to fuck a
famous porn star? Yeah, I mean, that's true,
That's true. But at the same time I try, you
know, to make everyone happy is I know that it's difficult
because we have such a huge fun days.
You should try to create a balance between what what people
want. So it that's probably the most
difficult aspect to manage. Yeah, I I'm a little bit of the
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opposite. I kind of just give people what
I, it's like, it's strictly for me, it's strictly fisting for
me, it's strictly prolapse stuff.
And if they don't like they can hit the roads.
But I, but I've kind of got myself into a little box because
I, I feel like kind of like I'vebeen sitting at 150,000
followers for the last two years.
And so I feel I've gotten that market and I've gotten all of
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them. That's all I'm going to get.
No, you're right, I probably still need to understand because
everything is in progress. Of course you should try to
understand what what works and what doesn't work.
Yeah, I'm comfortable with whereI'm at.
I'm comfortable with making the content that makes me happy and
make, you know what I mean? I look at the way that I do my
content as a sexual documentary.It's just a documentary about my
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sex life and, and so people are getting what I normally do and I
normally don't do. Yes, a whole lot of other stuff
other than fisting and big toys and stuff.
So I found my niche. Is there anybody that you still
want to work with? Anybody that you're eager to
eager to film with? Yes, many people.
There are some performers that Ithat I knew recently.
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One of them is Tyler Rex. Love him.
All these guys, yeah. And we have to meet the defaults
on Autumn parade in Berlin. But he was sick so we cancelled
promise each other to to. He's for three.
We had a crazy weekend together in Berlin.
It was nuts. So this is a lot of fun, but it
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was crazy. Yeah, and there's another and
there's another guy from France.He's Dimitri Venom.
He's extremely sexy. I met him in Milan during during
the live show. We fucked a little bit.
So there was a good chemistry and I think that it's it's the
right person because it's fucking sexy.
That's cool. So I was going to ask you about
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this. You've, you've tweeted about
cruising in some creepy places. Yeah, I I did my homework on you
before. I Yeah.
So you've cruised in some creepyplaces.
What do you enjoy about mixing sex and adventure in those
settings? I don't know.
I don't know. I think it's, it's something
that that I mean, I cannot explain.
I only can tell you that when I'm in this kind of places as
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abandoned factories or public toilets or in empty places, for
example. Not not necessarily something
that must be creepy, but basement in parks during the
evening. I'm so not a cruiser, that's my
thing is. So I'm learning as I go because
I don't cruise. I'm so bad at it and so is
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impressed by people that are able to do that.
Yes, yes, no, it's something that of course you 10 years ago,
I wouldn't do this kind of things, OK.
It's something that came step bystep, something that you have to
be comfortable, comfortable withand you have to feel it in this
moment. I feel some some shivers if I
sing, you know, to the fact thatI could fuck in, in, in public
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toilets or in the Parker in forest, especially during the
night, for example, because it'slike an animal instinct that
comes out and feel the adrenaline that is running
through your body. So it's probably something
connected with something primordial that is natural.
Yeah, that answer I don't know. No, that makes sense.
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I mean, it's a nature and be an animal.
It's like but we are so. But, but even in dark rooms, for
example, I feel completely free in a certain way.
I feel like I'm a, I'm a, I'm a caveman that is totally, you
know, there's no innovations, so.
That's hot. Yeah.
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I wish I had that gene. I wish I had that in me.
That was I just get to I get I'mI'm so I'm such a contradiction
because I am so out there on theInternet, but I'm so shy in real
life. It's it's a little hard for me
to put myself out there and do do cruising in public.
I'm much more likely to get on my phone and get on Scruff or
something at a bath house and belike who's close by, who's close
(13:55):
by. So but.
There's another example that could be stupid, but for example
being naked on a beach or or in a place where it is permitted it
make me feel so comfortable. So at Berlin, Folsom and other
events like that, you are clearly very comfortable with
pushing boundaries, I think, if that's safe to say.
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So how does public play or fetish the street wear feed into
your creativity when it comes tofilming scenes are.
Very important. It's extremely important because
since I was a teenager, I mean, I was very, you know, into on
the ground gothic cyberpunk culture.
So me and and a group of friendsthat I, they are still my
(14:37):
dearest friends in in the present We used to play with, I
mean the look in the air when I had here.
Yeah, I had this huge colorful Mohawk.
Oh cool. Yeah, walk with those high
platform boots with chains everywhere, even even we vary
vary into body modification withpiercings with.
(14:58):
I see that you have your logs stretched and I had the same
stretch lobes. Now probably you can see that
there's a little hole here. Yeah.
And I stopped working. It wasn't permitted so I was
forced to take off everything. But yeah, enjoying a community
like the gothic community, the fetish community is something
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extremely important. So, so that kind of of of
apparel, the the fashion, the street that represents something
that makes me feel comfortable. And I have to say the main
purpose was and is still to probably to shake a little bit
people's people's mind. And most of the time is is is a
political statement as well, because there that you that
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you're totally free and everybody should be, you know,
should enjoy this this type of up there character.
I know that like when I get geared up, it always just makes
me feel sexier, just makes me feel sexy.
Like if I'm geared up and I justdid an episode, last episode was
about latex and or one of my last episodes was about the
intersection between latex and fisting.
And I remember the first time I put on latex, I got a hard on
(16:05):
like immediately I was just like, fuck, this is so hot.
Like I love this. So yeah, it was.
I get that and I get about making the statement like people
really should just kind of it's,it's really, I feel bad for
people that are so kind of like closed off and closed minded to
like, you know, or are stuck in that kind of like
heteronormative, like this is how I need to behave, blah,
blah, blah, because it's so muchfun.
(16:26):
Yeah, which fun. And it's fun because in Folsom,
in I've never been to San Francisco.
I I I would love to join some. It just happened.
Yeah, yeah, I know many friends there at the moment.
But the fact that everything takes place in the city, OK, in
in in the neighborhood of Berlin.
But you get all the people walking around the city and and
(16:47):
they are close to, you know, people are very curious.
They watch you. They most of the time they ask
you they want to make a picture.So I think is a is a good way
to, you know, to make closer each other, you know, different
little different worlds that arecloser.
I want to go back to Folsom Berlin so bad.
I had so much fun when I went. Yeah, yeah, it.
(17:08):
Was a blast. I come back home regenerated
with a lot of energy. Yeah.
Nice. Oh, is that amazing?
Yes. It's like an experience that
everyone should do once in life.Nice.
Yeah, you said you're in Paris. You're you're an hour from
Paris. Yeah, OK, nice.
Well, maybe we can try. I mean, I'm coming for my
birthday, so next month. So maybe we can try and make
(17:29):
something happen when when I'm in when I'm there.
So let's OK, this is a fisting podcast and we haven't touched
on that. Let's talk a little bit about
that. So what was your origin story
with toys and fisting, and like,what made you keep going at it?
OK, the story starts in 2000. I don't remember, but I was 21
(17:49):
years old. So is is many, many years ago.
I remember that I was at university and and at that time
that social, social media didn'texist.
Few videos on the web, some yes,you can see some you could see
some, some fisting scenes, but just the movies.
So you have to buy some fisting movies.
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Yeah, they were always more expensive too, right?
And they were very expensive. Yeah.
So what I learned about fisting,but at the time I was only
Fister I I've learned from 2 professional fisters.
So they were my my my main teachers for many months.
We met and they they they taughtme everything Yeah, about it
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thing with with one of them I I'm still in contact.
Nice. The other one I think is would
would be 90 years old now. Oh, wow.
OK, yeah, if you're still with us.
But it was like craftsmanship. I don't know how to explain it,
but you needed somebody that. Know what they're doing?
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Yeah, was was, yeah, you need the teacher, you need the OK.
And that's what what I had. Then there there was a big gap
or 10 years because basically, OK, yes, was interesting.
But probably I was, I wasn't ready for for that.
Yeah. And during the pandemic, OK.
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Because when everybody got into fisting during the pandemic.
Yeah, that's time to understand what what we wanted from life.
OK, I had some some some huge dildos and, and, and and plaque.
So I started with with hole stretching and I started
exploring and and feeling these new kind of sensations that
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never felt before and I liked it.
But that's the starting point ofmy.
You're a COVID fisting baby. Yes, yes, as a beginner, I'm
still a beginner that is. No, I mean, maybe I'm
intermediate level, OK in secondlevel.
Yeah, it's hot. I mean, I love the videos where
you're ramming yourself with bigtoys.
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Yeah, yeah, I'm stuck. Does those bigger toys, I, I, I
do it step by step because I don't wanna.
I have of course some limits andI don't want to hold to reach
them too. Fast, of course, and you don't
want to hurt yourself. The message that I'm always
trying to send with this show isthis to take it easy and take it
slow. And it's not a race.
You might see crazy shit on the Internet, but those people have
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been doing fisting for forever. So, you know, it's not a not a
huge race to get to, you know, crazy punch fisting.
No, no, no. You know what, sometimes I stop
for for many weeks because I don't know, I don't feel I want
to do it. And then I start again with, you
know, with the basic stretching with small toys 3 after I use
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bigger toys is that is everything you have to you have
to pay attention. Yeah, you're very careful
because it's, it's not a challenge among us.
We, we are we. We have to respect our body and
and and understand what our limits are.
Yeah, you know, you know what happened.
You know what happened to me, right?
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Yeah, yeah, I know. That was that was just a fluke
accident. But injuries are possible.
Yeah, very real. Of course, I'm referring to the
beginners. Yeah, expert fisters are
probably in another dimension. OK, so it's something that that
OK, it's terrible, but I can understand that can happen of
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course, but with multiple body modifications as well we gene
with extreme sports is I think it's exactly the same.
There's some different. There's a level of risk involved
in every activity that we do. Exactly, Yeah.
So how did you come up with the name Blue Eyes XXL?
This is an interesting story because as I said before, all my
nicknames and all the things I Iwrite into into the values comes
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from from something in particular.
Blue eyes is comes from the factthat since I was a kid, everyone
used to say that I had beautifuleyes.
What a beautiful eyes. You have big eyes, you have
sweet eyes. My French teacher at the high
school used to call me Bossier. That means beautiful eyes.
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So I said, OK, that's going to be my nickname because it's
memorable, because it's easy to to, I mean, understand is.
For those of you guys who are just listening and not watching,
he does have really beautiful eyes.
No, it's the truth. It's probably the only thing
that I said, OK, they accept it because for years and years and
(22:34):
years, everybody told me those eyes.
Beautiful, beautiful. I didn't understand at the
beginning. I said OK, maybe be useful and
so I decided to use it. XXL is because I have a big tool
between my legs. OK, very, very simple.
So that the eyes part is very cute.
That's very cute. Yeah, Yeah, it is.
Yes. But because it's very simple to
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to remind so. Yeah, Blue Eyes XL, XXL, it's
it's very catchy. Yeah, it is so.
It's easy to remember. It sounds like you know, a
Japanese porn. I don't know teen teenager porn.
I don't know, it's something that I might be like I.
Don't know, I love that people aren't using traditional porn
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names anymore. Some and so steel or so and so
Angel or so and so blah blah blah.
It's yeah, I love that people are using screen names because I
feel they're more, you get a better feel for who they are as
a person when when they use screen names for their porn
names. I have to say the truth
honestly, my name, my Italian name is Jovan name.
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OK? So I wanted to use Johnny Blue
at the beginning, OK? But there are a lot of Johnny's.
There's Hiber Johnny, Johnny Bravo.
There's people used to make a confusion Johnny vibe, but no,
I'm Johnny Blue, your job. So OK, let's change it
completely. Yeah, it was a good decision.
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Yeah. So you've mentioned on your on
your ex feed and orgasm. So what's your perspective on
the body's potential and how do you explore that in your
content? OK, it's something that I'm
still exploring because since I started with fisting, I had my
my first analogas. I didn't have it with the dildo,
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but OK, I can say the name. My first analog orgasm was with
Bronco Stig. OK.
Well, I mean, yeah, it does giveamazing anal orgasms.
Yes, yes. I don't know.
Don't, don't ask me how, but it happened.
But he's a dear friend. I mean, we, we, I know him very
well. He's a very sweet person.
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So probably that day the connection was so strong that I
had this unexpected reactions. So probably had the the the best
sex in my in my own life with him.
Yeah, he's the best when it comes to fucking Dick fucking.
I remember getting fucked by himand I was thinking this is what
Dick sex is supposed to feel like again.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's exactly what I what I
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thought. Yeah.
This is where it. Wasn't fucking me so hard, was
very sweet and very deep and very I was totally relaxed.
I don't know if man, what had this, this could feel the
adrenaline and an explosion at the certain point.
And so Oh my God, what the fuck is this?
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And never, never experienced something like this before.
So from that moment I I started and I tried and I tried in
different positions with different tools and I found the
right combination. Hot.
There's nothing like it. I mean, for those of you guys
that are listening that haven't had Natal orgasm, I feel, you
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know, I feel for you because I mean, you don't know what you're
missing yet. So it's anytime I have one it
always makes me like this and I piss slash comp the same time.
Yes. And I don't know what's coming
out of me, but something's coming out of me.
It's like some, the sensation isis a, is a, is a heavy session
(26:07):
of gym that that puts a lot of adrenaline in your body.
So you shake in, but you feel happy.
Yeah. Is addictive, so.
Everything in moderation. Yeah, yeah.
So talking about body potential,I think that is an unlimited
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potential probably is everythingconnecting to the fact that I, I
touched some part of my of my body, the internal one that I
never touched before. So the reaction was totally
unexpected and and I couldn't explain why.
It's really cool when you feel new feelings you didn't know
your body was capable of. Yeah, it's it sounds a little
(26:50):
bit creepy when when I talk about these things with some
friends, they say, Oh my God, this is creepy, especially when
I say that if you feel someone deeply, you can feel the the
heart. Yes, they they are like but but
(27:10):
but it's amazing. Yeah, I love that.
I mean, when I can feel somebody's heart beating on my
fingertips, there's yes. There's no real way to get
closer to someone than that. Yeah.
It's like you're. Intimate.
So I mean, I mean, there's nothing it's, it's, I mean, is,
is hot and, and is an extreme kind of sex, but I think it's
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extremely intimate. There's a lot of intimacy
between you and your partner because he literally goes inside
you. Yeah.
It requires a really deep level of trust and connection.
Yes. Otherwise you close, you don't
relax. It's a very bad sensation.
I can always tell in the first like 30 seconds of a fixing
session how it's going to go. For me, it just seems if the guy
(27:55):
is too forceful, too fast or tooI shut down and even I shut
down, it's like there's people think I can get fisted by
anybody, but I really have to bementally into it to really enjoy
it. Yes, yes.
Or you have to eye them. Yeah, especially.
Inner so you have to talk with them and to say OK, more gently,
please don't don't push it. Don't turn the fit.
(28:17):
I Yeah. It's all about communication in
the end. It's all about communication,
definitely so, yeah. And I think some people are
afraid to communicate. I've noticed that recently is
that people are afraid to voice what they want and what they
need. Yeah.
And. I one of my hopes for this show
is to just kind of encourage people to learn how to
communicate a little bit. Not better, but just
(28:39):
communicate. Just stand up for yourself.
Stand up for what you want. Talk about what you want.
Talk about what you do. Very simple.
Makes for a much better session.Yes.
So you've got a ton of followerson Twitter or X now over
100,000. So what do you think it is about
your the videos that you're making that resonates with
people? Is it the authenticity that
you've brought to the videos? Probably yes that's probably
(29:00):
what what what I mean allows me to keep this this big fan base
yeah a lot of time was very difficult but yeah I think that
that the fact that I that I keepmy authentic.
I mean as much as possible. I mean the Most of them are
faithful and the. People you want to fuck?
(29:22):
Probably. I'm guessing too.
No, even. For example, I met a guy at the
gym, OK, that told me I was ashamed to talk with you because
I didn't want to disturb you. Because I recognize you, I know
you are. But I didn't want to talk
because I was ashamed. And I said, oh, no, if you're
(29:43):
kind, if anybody would be kind, like you would be perfect.
And it's I am happy when people say hello or they want to, you
know, talk 5 minutes with you. Yeah.
Yeah, it just there's, there's a, there's a time and a place.
I've always, I, I always say it's if I'm out with my family,
if you recognize me, please don't come up and say hi to me.
(30:04):
If I'm with my, if I'm with my grandmother out in the grocery
store, now is not the time, but gym, stuff like that, bars, it's
different stories. So I hope you stay that way with
the eagerness to talk to people that are because I get a little
jaded sometimes. I don't know what you know, I
when they say I love your work, I say thank you and then I don't
really know. What I mean, you know what,
sometimes you feel forced to give them something in exchange.
(30:26):
OK, Yeah, actually during in sexclubs or during parties, you're
you don't know how to deal with them.
OK. What I try to do is to create
some limits. I mean, some the right distance
because most of them they they they think you're a sex toy.
So they start, you know, touching you that we touch.
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That that that's what gets me. Yeah, there's something upset me
and be very, very impolite at that point.
So what I try to do is to make them understand that you're
human being after all, so you'renot at their complete
disposition and it's all about respect and and being polite.
(31:12):
That actually segues immediatelyinto what I was going to ask you
next, which was how outside of sex, as a as a real person, what
kind of things are you interested in?
Like what kind of keeps you grounded as a person?
As a person, I, I have few rules.
I mean, when I started with withI, I basically promised to
(31:34):
myself that any time I I feel like uncomfortable or, or if I
don't feel in shape, for example, I have to quit.
I have to stop even for one week, two weeks, it doesn't
matter. This is a job that I like.
I've never I've never come back.I would never come back because
I can manage my time. I have a lot of free time.
(31:55):
Of course, I have to earn. Yeah.
To pay the bills. You.
Gotta you gotta hustle, baby. Yeah.
So that's the base. But I think everyone should,
should care about their mental and physical health.
Yes, that's the most important things because unfortunately a
lot of people that I know, some some where my, my close friends,
(32:18):
some they not OK, they had big problems.
Some of them committed suicide. This is a very serious problem
because there are some periods where you're more depressed or
you don't feel like things are not going but how you planned.
So you're more hungry and, and, and so you just have to stop,
(32:40):
OK, And you have to recover yourself.
So that's what I try to do. I go to the gym or I spend €100
to go to dinner, for example. And I'm happy because I feel
that it's something that I that I deserve.
It's self-care. Yeah, and I stay with friends,
with family, I save some time to, to travel, for example.
(33:00):
That's all. There's nothing, nothing
special. Well, that's.
Perfect, That's the perfect answer.
How do you stay grounded as a person?
You take care of yourself. Yeah, yeah, it's exactly what I
wanted to avoid, to be overstressed and be constantly
nervous. I know it's not for me.
Yeah. Good.
I have this privilege that I have the chance to manage my
(33:21):
time and to decide how to go to holiday, for example, how long I
can stay. Yeah, I think anyone, anyone
should should do it. Nice.
This is my second to last question, essentially my last
question before I ask you where people can write you online.
And for creators that are just starting out in the industry,
what's 1 lesson that you wish that you knew at the beginning
when you first started that thatyou could bestow upon upon new
(33:45):
creators? Yeah, yeah.
The answer is connected to the to the last question.
I knew it was Yeah, I was going to say yeah.
Because I know many young content creators that want to
start OK, but I see that they are very secure.
So when I talk with them, the best suggestion that I can give
them is not to put the earning at the top of the list.
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So they should understand why I really want to start.
And there's another important thing that in this time and age,
when a video or or or photo of you of your face, of your body
goes in Internet to the web, is almost impossible to delete it.
Yeah, OK. Make sure you're ready to cross
that bridge when you cross it. Yeah, so.
That's why I started very late, because I needed to understand
(34:32):
what kind of problems this this worker generates and the way
that this job could affect on mypersonal life.
Yeah. OK, so probably the best thing
they should do is to speak with someone that has more
experienced and take more time to the side.
Yeah, that's great advice. I mean, yeah, it's, it's, it's
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once you cross that bridge into showing your face on the
Internet doing. You never come back.
You can't come back. I mean, and I made that
decision. I was 18 years old when I
started doing porn for Raging Stallion in 2007.
And if I could go back in time and tell myself I would have
been the actual lessons that that I, the things that I was
(35:13):
afraid would happen never happened, but the things that I
never thought about happened. Because for me, the way that it
affects me is that I, it's so hard for me to find a boyfriend.
It's so hard for me to find because they get so intimidated
by the fact that I have this bigpersona on the Internet and
it's, it's difficult. And then, and if you would have
told me that I probably would have been never mind.
(35:34):
But you know, is it was that's the one thing that I wasn't
prepared for, the how, how difficult it would be to find a
partner when you have an online persona like this.
Yeah, yeah. Or you find a partner and that
makes your you're the same job. Yeah, well, I tried that too.
That did not end well for me. No.
That did not end well. For me not a good idea.
(35:55):
Yeah, so I decided after that I was like, no more content
creators. So like.
Yeah, totally agree. Yes, no, I was saying that that
that this job is not a for for everyone.
I mean, you have to be strong, you have to be skin perfectly
yes, yes, skilled. You must have the tools to to to
(36:17):
fight with people, because maybeyou're lucky that your friends
can understand your decisions, but many of them maybe will
understand. So it's very it's very easy to
I'll be disappointed few advises, but but but good, good,
(36:38):
good suggestions, yes. Good.
Awesome. Where that reaches the end of
the questions that I had for you.
No. I feel it flew by.
I really enjoyed talking to you.So where can people find where
can people find more about you on the Internet and what's
coming next for you? You have any big cult projects
or anything? I have some projects, maybe I'm
(37:00):
ready to to make some live shows.
It's something that I was very ashamed because I don't know
why, but maybe it's time to, youknow, to to overreach, you know,
limits that I had. So I'm trying to to arrange some
some live shows in clubs or or in events.
Very cool. Is even it a work in progress
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and other videos with with that coming out?
Sweet. Awesome.
So you're on Just for Fans X? Are you on Blue Sky?
I'm on just for fans only fans and Twitter.
OK, cool. So I'll include the links to
your pages in the bio for the description, for the page or for
the and that's that. Thank you for your time.
Thank you. Thank you so much.
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Yeah. Of course, you guys, if you guys
are enjoying the show, Bro Labs is available on Spotify,
YouTube, Apple Podcasts, Amazon,and iHeartRadio, but we go live
Friday nights at 8:00 across allplatforms.
Early video access is available for Spotify subscribers as soon
as I'm done editing them, which has been just a little bit
before the audio goes live lately.
(38:04):
Video episodes go live at 8:00 PM on hungerff.com.
And just for fan slash hunger FF, I'll also give Blue Eyes a
copy for his page as well so youcan stream it there.
And I look forward to seeing allof you guys next week.
Have a beautiful night. Bye guys.
Ciao. Thanks for going deep with me on
Hunger FF Presents Prolapse. If you're loving the ride, hit
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