February 10, 2025 • 45 mins
Unlock the secrets to harvesting big bucks as Corey and Luke Chase, two passionate hunting brothers, share their tried-and-true strategies in this captivating episode. We journey through their early days of hunting adventures inspired by their father and discover Corey's unique insights, honed through years of dedication in the challenging deer management landscapes of New Brunswick. From scouting year-round to mastering the art of shed hunting, Corey reveals his methods to ensure success in the woods.
Join us as we track the thrilling narratives of two specific bucks, weaving through years of pursuit, unexpected appearances, and the meticulous planning involved. Experience the rush that comes with muzzleloader hunting as the brothers share tales of patience, timing, and the emotional rollercoaster of close encounters. The stories offer a glimpse into the deep camaraderie between hunters and the shared passion that binds them, highlighting the value of ethical and respectful hunting practices.
We wrap up with invaluable lessons on maintaining good relationships with landowners and the advantages this brings to securing prime hunting spots. Listen to the heart-pounding moments of scoring big bucks, where patience and quick decision-making pay off, and witness the excitement of a successful harvest amid challenging weather conditions. This episode promises thrilling hunting stories, ethical insights, and the joyous victories of the Chase brothers, leaving you eager for more tales of the hunt.
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
this is hunts on outfitting podcast.
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Hey, thanks for joining us.
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This week we have a tale of twobig bucks taken from the past,
2024 season, told by twobrothers who were fortunate
enough to harvest these monsters.
Older brother, corey Chase,wearing all camo in the picture,
and younger brother, luke Chase, wearing an orange hat and a
giant beard, are lucky enough tobe able to live near each other
and bond over big bucks nearlyevery deer season.
A successful big buck huntermost years.
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Corey shares a few of his tips,tricks, tactics and while Luke
tells us about some of thepatience needed to make a good
shot and wait for the rightmoment.
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So, boys, thanks for coming outhere.
You know they say that brotherswho hunt together, there is a
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bond created that is justunparalleled and unmatched to
anything else.
Would you guys agree?
Speaker 2 (02:04):
I would say so, yeah, I think so okay fair enough.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
So, uh, cory, you are the older brother and more of
the deer hunter were you.
I mean, where was your start inhunting?
Speaker 2 (02:15):
I would say I started hunting when I was well, as
soon as I was legal, so 16 yearsold would have been 2004 maybe
yeah, um, just my dad.
My dad got me into hunting,right your dad did.
Okay, he was a big hunter, so Iget into it that way and just
consistently hunted every year.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
And then, luke, were you to tag?
Did you tag along with cory, orwere you the apple carrier for
going out to the deer stand, orwhat?
Speaker 4 (02:41):
yeah, probably similar to cory, corey, like my
dad got me into it, probably, Idon't know, maybe a younger age
than Corey, since he got into itand I was just always around,
so I always had to be druggedwith him.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Yeah, we actually have a picture together.
I was 16 or 17, and you wouldhave been 6 or 7, with a Buckeye
shot.
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Yeah, so you've always been after.
Yeah, cause you're, you're abig, uh, you're, you're deer
hunter.
Basically, you're not going tosee pictures with you out
hunting geese or squirrels orrabbits or anything else.
You focus on deer and you do.
You do a lot of scouting.
You're in the woods, corey, youknow all year round deer, a
shed hunter in the area here ofNew Brunswick.
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What do you think helps withyour success with getting big
deer fairly consistently yearafter year?
Is it the scouting?
Is it just time in the woods?
Is it shit luck?
Is it the area you're in?
A combination of all of it?
Speaker 2 (03:35):
I'd say a little bit of everything, right?
I mean, the first step isyou've got to locate a big buck.
So that's the first challenge.
You definitely need luck, butyou can increase your luck by
time in the field, scouting,doing your homework, right,
right, playing the wind, youknow every advantage you can
have.
You can increase.
You're looking at.
You're looking at everything.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Yeah and then what got you really into?
Uh, to the antler, you knowfinding sheds, because there's a
lot of people who are deerhunters that they're not.
I don't know if they're muchfor shed hunters, maybe they're
just not successful ones, butyou've.
You find a lot, year after year, very consistently.
What kind of got you into that?
Was it because of deer hunting?
You liked finding them?
Was it because you're lookingfor a certain buck to see if he
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lived?
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Yeah, I'd say just any time I could put.
In the woods looking for deeris what really got me into it.
I remember I found my first setof sheds when I was 15 years
old, so that'd be 22 years ago,right?
So I found my first set ofthose mathematicians.
We know your age now yeah, I was, uh, I was 15 years old and
then I kind of got out of a bitbecause I went to, went to
college and was working, puttingin a lot of hours, and then I
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really started getting back intoit in 2015, 2016.
Yeah, uh, one of my closefriends, he's a he's a good shed
hunter.
He found 50 sheds one year.
So I started hanging around withhim a little more and, you know
, get back into it.
Now I'm finding, like you know,20 sheds a year and he kills
big bucks.
So you know, there's that oldsaying show me your friends,
they'll show you, your future.
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So you hang around little bigbucks.
You'll probably kill themyourself.
So yeah, that's what I do trueenough.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
And then you know, finding the sheds too.
There's some people that mightbe listening to this and other
provinces or even states thatthinking that 20 sheds a year is
not that much.
But for our area we've got deerbut it's not, it's not managed
at all.
We don't have, we don't havedeer management here and uh, for
the we have a good populationbut it's not big population.
Some, some of the States and orprovinces you know.
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So that's that's really good.
I mean most people if they'refunding three or four a year a
year, they're pretty happy aboutthat.
Yeah, yeah.
So to be able to find that manyconsistently, uh, for the
profile picture, this podcast,that Corey's nose is a little
bit crooked.
Corey, you did some boxing.
You were really into the boxingbefore.
Do you think that thededication and the work involved
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in being a boxer helped that'sjust your personality with deer
hunting, because I mean you'repretty committed to deer hunting
.
All the scouting and trailcameras and stuff.
Does that carry over?
You find?
Speaker 2 (05:59):
your personality.
I would say it definitely helps, right?
You know the dedication you putinto the sport now that?
I would say it definitely helps, right, you know the dedication
you put into the sport Now thatthe sport's out of my life.
I'm just a fan now.
So I take that dedication andapply it to that.
So that's my challenge now.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
All right, yeah, so that's kind of what I thought.
Right, yeah, that's exactlyright.
Then Luke, what do you do forwork?
Speaker 4 (06:16):
I work for the New Brunswick Milk Board.
Okay, that's right.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
keep the farmers happy, get paid every month yeah
, they appreciate it they gotthe bills, so where do you so,
where was, what was your startin hunting?
Speaker 4 (06:28):
you're saying kind of just going along with cory and
yeah, yeah, I uh always, uhalways, went out with my dad
every year.
Wasn't too too big into kind ofpursuing anything by myself, I
guess I always accompaniedsomebody.
And then I think it was 2018 or2017, corey had tagged out for
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the year and he had some standsalready set up, so he told me I
should move in on one of hisstands and try it out, it's very
brotherly of him.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
That's right 2017.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
Yeah, 2017.
So I got my butt out of bedevery morning there for about a
week and, uh, and I I shot anice buck that year and that
kind of got me hooked on it.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Yeah, yeah yeah, so did you hunt like small game a
bit before yeah you weren't into, like the duck, hunting geese,
stuff like that, because thearea you guys live in too it's.
It's really good for that.
If you're into waterfowl yeahbut it, uh, it grows big bucks.
So you guys had a good yearthis past year.
2024 season.
Um cory, if you wanted to startus off now, you guys, you got a
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little history with the deeryeah, with both deer, with both
deer yeah, luke, you do, oryou're just kind of taking
cory's yeah, orders.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
Yeah, working together with cory, okay, yeah,
being an extra set of hands.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Yeah, there you go it's a lot of work yeah um,
because I mean how many camerasare you running, cory?
Roughly close to 30 yeah, it'sa lot to keep track of.
That's a lot.
That's almost a full-time jobright there of itself, but yeah,
uh.
Well for an outfitter sayinghere, it's just for you.
So yeah that's good.
It's a lot of work.
Um, I don't know who wants tostart us off on this season, how
we got started, because I knowit didn't just start the first
(08:07):
day deer season.
It started long before then.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
I'm assuming yeah, no , that's right, I can kick it
off.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
Yeah, you go ahead because you, you killed yours
first.
Yeah, okay, yeah, fair enough.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
so if I rewind the clock, um you know when I think
of the 2024 season.
I mean it's going to be veryhard to top this season right.
We both tagged two bucks in thefirst week that you know.
We're almost 160-inch deer, soreal good year in that regards,
but started out just like anormal year.
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I'm running my cameras, I'mscouting, not too many targets
in mind.
Because you keep your camerasout year-round, right, yeah,
year-round, yeah, the only timethey're out of the woods is like
probably from middle ofFebruary till maybe June.
Okay, and then I put some saltor whatever and start getting
some cameras up.
So same thing, put the camerasup seeing what's around, Don't
get too excited, unless Istarted getting, you know,
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something really big on camera.
So, um, I'd actually hadcameras set up for Luke's buck
in June because I actually had,what did I say, eight years of
pictures of that buck Luke.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
Yeah, eight years, eight years, 2018.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
The one that you got this year Luke.
Yep, because that was eightyears old, or at least, at least
no, it was probably, maybe noteight years of pictures.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Six years of pictures and we figured it was two and a
half.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Three and three and a half when I started getting
them.
Yeah, wow, at least eight, nine.
Probably had you been trying toget him before or just want.
I mean, do you, you pass up ona lot?
Right, gory, you shoot big deer.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Yeah, obviously, so you have to pass up on a few I
had hunted the deer um, not hard, periodically, because I was
after the one that I shot in2022, so I had hunted that deer
for four years, yeah.
So I didn't put a lot of timeinto the one luke killed in 24,
but lots of pictures of him yearafter year had to shed off him
from 2021, I believe.
So I knew he was around, so putcameras out for him.
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Um, sure enough, startedgetting pictures of him all
summer into the fall.
Um had another spot set up,nothing big on camera, and then,
lo and behold, I think it waslike the third week of bow
season I started gettingpictures of this high rack 10
pointer.
Yeah, and I knew the deerbecause I'd actually had
pictures of the deer since since2021.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Right.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Um had a shed off him from 2021, baited them all
winter in 2022, trying to gethis sheds.
He shed.
I never found the sheds.
Not many pictures in 23.
And then he kind of showed upout of nowhere the third week of
bow season.
So I think I put two hunts onhim in bow season, Just kind of
picked my days.
No luck, and then I ended upgetting him the second day of
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rifle season.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Did you?
Yeah, yeah, I mean so, thoselistening.
So Did you?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean so,those listening.
So in New Brunswick, here youget out an extra three weeks
early for bow, ahead of the gunhunters.
Um, so that can help us fundthe deer and to their, their
summer habits.
They're as predictable asanimals can be, really.
And then, um, yeah, so youhunted him then and you didn't,
(11:00):
uh, you didn't have much luckduring bow season.
How much, since you do shootbig bucks, how much attention do
you pay to like barometricpressure, the wind and all that?
Do you look at that much themoon phases?
Speaker 2 (11:11):
No, the only thing I really pay attention to is the
wind, yeah, and the frost, likeif it's a frosty morning.
I won't go because I think theyhear you.
You won't.
No, I think they hear you walkin right, huh, right.
Yeah, I've had experiences inthe past of deer hearing me walk
in.
I actually did a trial one timein 2018.
I was after a buck.
He was about 140 inch buck.
Yeah, every time I go to thestand he wouldn't show.
(11:33):
He'd show after I was gone.
Like you know, if I took a dayoff, I did a, did a test.
One time, I took Luke with me.
That way, he left when I got inthe stand and the buck came out
that night.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Really.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Yeah, I think they sometimes are bedded closer than
you think.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
So with the frost?
Yeah, frosty mornings, theyhear you walk in.
Yeah, they won't come in.
I don't think.
Anyways, Paint us a picture ofwhat kind of area you're hunting
.
You're kind of in a cedar swamp.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Yeah, cedar, a little bit of hardwood mix, yeah.
There's a lot of agriculturearound Good farm fields, corn
fields, alfalfa, stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Okay, yeah, so then this season.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
So if you just want to walk us through, yeah, so
anyway, this high rack10-pointer shows up and of
course I got histories of thedeer.
So I automatically divert myattention from the buck that
Luke ended up shooting because Iwasn't getting a lot of
pictures of him at the time,didn't even have a spot set up
but we had permission on a lotof pictures of him at the time.
Didn't even have a spot set upbut we had permission on a place
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property.
I had the cameras up, knew hewas in the area, but this buck
that I ended up shooting justshowed up and I said, you know,
oh geez, this is a goodopportunity because I won.
I got a shed off the deer.
Yeah, and that's always beenkind of a goal of mine is to
kill a new brunswick buck that Ihave sheds off.
All right.
Yeah.
Which is very hard to do.
So he became target number oneand it was really strange, he
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was daylighting at like 11 inthe morning, 10, 11 in the
morning.
He did it four mornings in arow on the last week of bow
season I sat two mornings, andthe two mornings I sat he didn't
show up and I was like he's gotto be here Was it frosty that
morning.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
One of the mornings was frosty and you still went
out.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Eh, I did Just because he, you know, you get a
little anxious.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Oh yeah, no, I definitely would yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
And he didn't show.
So I changed it up.
One night he actually showed uplike 20 minutes after I left.
Oh, yeah, yeah, so I mean I wasconfident he was bedding close,
he was just hearing me.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Yeah, and there's a.
I think there's a fair amountof hunting pressure around you
too so.
I mean, you're like you saidabout uh, going in, not trying
not to go in when it's frosty.
It's like it doesn't like.
Hey, this is a safe place foryou.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
In our area it's almost critical.
You know, if you're on a bigbuck, it's almost critical to
get them a bow season Cause ifyou don't, your chances in my
mind go down every day.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Talking about a couple episodes ago.
You know a few episodes gothrough Ryan on saying when he
got the bow he knew if youdidn't get him during bow season
it's not happening because ofall the hunters around you get a
shot in the dark and the rutyou know.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
The rut is late here, I find too, so it's not even
that great.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
It is, yeah, the bucks.
That's when, like, all bets areoff.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
then I mean somebody randomly just driving by.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
You know can probably 6k okay that's not real far.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
No, yeah, and you're getting the same bucks on camera
, yeah okay, yeah yeah, yeah,the bucks that we've killed.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Like I said, I've had them on camera.
It's funny, you know the foryears, 10 years of history
between the two deer wow, that'scrazy, you know four years of
the one I shot and six years ofthe one luke shot and those are
the deer worth getting too right.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
I mean it's nice to get the one that, like I didn't
know he was here and droppedthis monster, but I mean just
having the history like that.
You have so much more investedinto it so that when you do, you
know, pull the trigger, let thearrow go on it.
It's just, it's that much moreof a you know, wow, I did it.
You know it's a bigaccomplishment, yeah, so yeah,
uh, yeah, cory, sorry, I'll letyou know, pick it up yeah, no
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problem.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
So anyway, I tried them a couple times in boces, no
luck and all day sets.
I went in one morning, satright from you daylight.
I went in the dark, sat fromdaylight to dark, seen some deer
, had some small bucks come in.
That one day I think I don'tknow if you remember, luke, I
think it had a four or sixpointer come in like three times
that day, and I'm talking 12yards.
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I'm hunting a ground blind.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
So the wind was in your favor, or he just didn't
see you wind was in my favor,but I'll tell you that's one of
my little little trade secrets.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
You'll never see me sitting in a tree stand.
Oh, you don't.
No, okay, I've done that.
I did that for years growing upyou're in a ground blind I'm in
a ground blind, okay, and.
But the ground blind is well,well secured.
You know the the the edges areburied in the sod, the windows
are tape shot with duct tape.
There's just one hole bigenough to shoot from, that's it.
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So the scent can't get out ofthe blind.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Okay, yeah, I did not know that.
That's just my little trick.
Yeah, this was the first year Ihunted in a grand blind.
I didn't like that.
I couldn't see as well, but Idid feel a lot better concealed
and I felt that my scent wasbetter concealed, all that you
know.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
So I'll do it again, even in a tree stand if you're
hunting a good wind.
Sometimes it does weird things.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
It swirls you know, they just.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Sometimes they catch your wind right.
Yeah.
And there's always big box,usually always circle too, if
they're coming into a bait orsomething.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Yeah, Well, you'll hear them go around.
I mean they're not that big'llbe checking it out and I find
this year, yeah, the groundblood did.
It was that difference, youknow the deer, just they just
weren't winding me at all.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Yeah, no, it's a big difference, it was a game
changer for me.
So I'll never, I'll never goback to a tree stand.
And oh, the last three deer wekilled, you know 160 inch box.
They've all been shot at aground blood.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Okay, yes, sir, yeah, I didn't know that.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Yeah, so anyways, all day sits.
Never came in.
I go home, he shows up, yeah,so I know he's close, right, so
I'll give him a couple of daysoff.
You know I don't like to hunttwo days in a row.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
I don't even like to hunt a spot anymore in like four
or five times Because you'rereally careful with the pressure
, Real careful.
Your first set's your best one,right yeah?
Speaker 2 (17:22):
I get nervous If I don't get on my first set.
I get nervous.
Yeah.
So anyway, give him some timeoff.
Like I said, a couple of setsin bow season snuck into my
stand, knew I'd get in.
You know I thought undetectedbecause I had deer coming in all
day.
So that was a good sign.
But something just didn't feelright.
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I felt it was the second day ofrifle season.
I guess I went to work thatmorning.
It was kind of wet that day andhe'd been coming in between 10
and 11 in the morning and I saidthis is the morning.
So I went out.
I got in the stand at like 9.45in the morning, crawled into
the stand.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
A bit late by most guys' standards.
Yeah, a bit late by most guys'standards yeah, a bit late.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Killed a deer at 1026 or something.
You did get him.
Huh, yeah, what'd you get himwith Muzzle loader?
It was a muzzle loader.
Yeah, got him with a muzzleloader.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
So in New Brunswick, here we have an extended they
just started this a few yearsago extra 10 bucks and you get
an extra week.
Uh, but you were hunting duringthe regular rifle, so was there
?
Speaker 2 (18:28):
a particular reason you decided to break out the
muzzleloader.
One of the main reasons was I Imean, I'm not a real, real
muzzleloader.
Uh, it's just unique.
It's a unique weapon I didn'tknow anything about them going
into it, I bought.
The only reason I bought onewas for the extra week the year
before, right yeah so I startedshooting my muzzleloader in the
early fall of 24 just to getready, and I fell in love with
the gun.
It just shoots.
(18:49):
Beautiful, it's not a high-endmuzzleloader.
It's a Buckstocker.
Buckstocker Got it at Bass Pro.
Who makes that?
I'm not even sure.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
It's like the Cabela's Value brand.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Oh, okay, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
But if you look at the ratings of it you know, like
the, the trigger pull or theratings are, the ratings of it
are through.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
So how many grains?
Are you measuring the grains?
Speaker 2 (19:09):
because we talked about this last week.
I use the hot shot okay, areyou?
Speaker 1 (19:12):
are you measuring the grains and the powder you put
in or the, the actual leaditself, the powder I guess you
are okay with.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Yeah, they're all pre-weighed out for me, like you
know.
Some know, some guys do measure, but Because I didn't know.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
I know with you know, rifle bullets.
I was like the powder by whatthey put it, the grains by the
powder they put in there.
But I thought for themuzzleloader they more measure
it by the grains of the bulletitself.
I don't know, I don't knowanything about them Could be.
I'm not, I don't know at all,but same same here, so yeah
anyways, started shooting therifle, fell in love with it
(19:45):
really.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Oh, it's the sweetest , yeah, so how?
Speaker 1 (19:47):
many yards, because we talked about this a few weeks
ago too.
How many yards are you accuratewith it?
Speaker 2 (19:52):
because I've I know some guys had a lot of trouble
sighting them in I was shooting50 okay, 50 yards quite
confidently quite confidently,but keeping the gun clean was a
challenge, right that's whatI've heard.
After two shots, three shots,three shots maximum.
You can hardly push the bulletdown the barrel after three
shots, really, yeah, wow, yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
It's phenomenal how dirty they get that's what Kyle
Gillies was saying on our trivianight there about just keeping
it clean.
Keep it clean.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Yeah, I think that's probably the biggest thing in
your accuracy and consistency.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Compared to I mean, you've bow hunted Compared to,
bow hunting is muzzleloader.
Do you have to get that into it?
You know what I mean.
Like for bow hunting.
No one's just like I'm justgoing to buy a bow and just
shoot it.
You have to get into it.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Yeah, I think.
So you definitely got to knowyour weapon, right?
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Every weapon shoots a little different.
Yeah, just find that.
With the bows, you know,obviously the practice, but just
like your broadheads, yourarrows, your fletchings, your
the release you're using Ifyou're shooting, compound all
that stuff, do you have to getthat into it with the
muzzleloader, do you find?
Speaker 2 (20:50):
I would say not Okay, there's less gear.
Right, there's less things youknow, there's less less you know
there's really hard yeah.
I couldn't like Luke's neverhad a chance to fire it.
I told him he's got to try it.
You love it yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Yeah, I know I fired a buddy of mine, denver's, and
uh, it was a lot of fun.
It was.
It was fun to shoot.
It was.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
his wasn't sighted in at the time we were just like
kind of you know, randomlyshooting you can size the bullet
and stuff, but no really niceweapon to shoot.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Yeah, so that's how you got.
The buck was with that.
You just chose that gun andenjoyed it.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Yeah, and just the setup right, the yardage of the
shot.
I mean the farther shot I wouldhave had.
I was hunting them with bow,obviously, so the farther shot I
would have had, even with a bow, would have been 20 yards, just
at a little tiny thing and youweren't having trouble with
being winded no at all.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
So do you wear scent eliminator?
Yes, you do.
Yeah, okay, I always askeverybody.
I don't really believe in itmuch.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
You know what I didn't believe in it, but I
don't change my mind, really Idid I see I wash my clothes in
the sun eliminator detergent.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
I shower before I go I find it can help.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
But I mean, do you even put on, like the lip chap
and all that?
See what I mean?
Your lip?
You're shedding skin cells,right?
That has scent, yeah to it.
But I find it helps.
I don't I don't wear it at all,I don't really believe in it
with the how many million centolfactory scent receptacles,
whatever the deer have.
But I'm always, I always liketo ask everybody, you know, if
they use it or not and stuff.
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But yeah, I think it helps whatyou do.
Yeah, and stuff.
But I find that deer, dependingon the wind, they always know
that you're there.
It's just how big of a threat.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Yeah, they feel that you are that is definitely not
going to save you if the wind'son your baby no it's definitely
not, but and just to kind ofpaint the picture for like the
listener.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
And the reason why the frost and stuff matters is
because we're hunting from aground blind.
But generally speaking it's notlike a 200 yard rifle shot or
something like.
It's up close and personal,yeah in the bedding area.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Yeah, exactly yeah yeah, I mean you hear a lot of
guys talk about that's uh,that's tricky zone getting into
the bedding area because I meanyou, you really don't want to
spook them out of there at all.
So you got to be real quiet,careful and mind your scent as
best as you can getting in andout.
You know we've talked aboutthat before too on here about a
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lot of guys.
They might have the great setupand all that, but when they're
leaving they're bumping deerwhen they're leaving and then
the deer are like you know what,screw this, I'm done, I'm
leaving and stuff.
So that's important too.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Yeah, no, for sure.
And yeah, like we won't evenset up honestly, like we find
good spots but we won't even setup if it's not a good spot to
hunt like dominant wind rightyeah, like the spot where I
killed my deer.
Perfect spot.
Yeah, I could hunt it, like youknow, nine days out of ten, yep
, just good spot for thedominant wind.
Um, easy in, easy out, that'sthe key, like you said, same
(23:41):
with yeah, same with luke's spottoo.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
So you end up dropping with muzzle loader.
You're happy about it.
So he was big deer.
So you, you scored him.
What do you score?
Speaker 2 (23:48):
yeah, we actually had just had him, uh, just had him
officially scored last weekend.
So when we, when we, when Ishot him, I think I green scored
him.
He's like 161 inches orsomething like that.
So we officially scored himlast weekend he was 157 and
seven eights.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
That's a big buck.
So in New Brunswick for rifleit needs to be 145.
140.
140?
Yeah, Okay, the net to get intothe record books.
So you definitely made it.
That's really good.
We were talking earlier.
You're going with a friend ofours to take the course to learn
how to officially score deer.
Oh, is it just deer?
Are you doing?
Are you taking the course fordeer?
Speaker 3 (24:23):
moose bear, uh that I'm not sure I think so lane was
talking.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
I think it's all of them, it's everything, because
he was asking about maybe takingmine and my uncle's moose skull
the antlers in to score thattoo.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
So I'm guessing it's all of it okay which is really
good, just to keep that I thinkdeer the hardest thing to score,
like.
I think, yeah, pretty simple.
I think bear is pretty simplethere, I'm pretty sure Just
measured the skull Skull widthor length yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Yeah, all right, luke , your turn, you're up.
That's how Corey got his deerfor this year.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
Yeah, I guess.
Yeah, kind of similar toCorey's buck.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Beat that story right .
Yeah, that's right.
Maybe you should have wentfirst.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
No, Kind of.
I guess what, like what Coreywas saying earlier, is we had
six years of pictures of thebuck pretty pretty well in the
summer and then sporadicallyduring hunting season.
I think never really had themconsistently during hunting
season.
This year, I think, kind of wefound the.
(25:18):
We kind of got the missingpiece of the puzzle and got
permission on a good piece ofproperty where we thought we, I
guess what turned out to be hishome range, had a feeling he was
there.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Yeah.
So do you hunt with a bow too,or no?
No, just rifle, just rifle,okay yeah.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
And yeah, so so we we hadn't even set.
We had a.
We got permission on the landfor rifle.
We hadn't set up a spot yet inrifle.
We, um, we hadn't set up a spotyet in, uh, in rifle.
We we were kind of did we havea camera up at the time?
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Yeah, we had cameras up?
Speaker 4 (25:48):
Yeah, but we're getting pictures of them.
Didn't have a specific cameraat the spot.
We we were going to try andkill him at, but, um, yeah, so I
guess we trying to think.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
So are you hunting out of a grand blind as well?
Speaker 4 (26:02):
Yeah, you are.
Okay, are you?
Hunting out of a grand blind aswell.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Yeah, you are okay, yeah, so cool you listen to cory
on that one.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
Yes, yeah, is that why you do it, yeah, or is it
just more convenient?
Or yeah, I'm not the, I'm notthe smallest guy, I'll tell you.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Well, it definitely comes in handy this year.
This past fall, as you guysknow, we had a lot of rain.
Yeah, we had a lot of rain.
Remember just sitting on mygrand blind a little bit, like
you know, this is pretty nice.
Like I was dry, I was expectinga couple drops here and there,
but no, it's good.
You know, yeah, I was just likethat kid.
You know, with adhd, when it'sraining, your parents tell you
not to touch the side of thetent.
I was like fiddling with alittle bit, but it was okay
because I wasn't laying down,you know.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
So yeah, like cory said he had been, he had been
hunting this deer but neverreally never really had pictures
in hunting season.
So another buck that showed upwould take president or
something like that.
And once cory got his deer, wasit october 20, 28, I think.
I shot mine the 29th, 29th ofoctober.
We kind of we set our sights on, uh, where this buck could be,
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because he in 2021 he wasprobably at his prime for at the
moment and then he 2022 wentdownhill and I think 2023, 2024
we had good winners and hereally rebounded nicely in 2024
and we figured it was going tobe his best year so you figure
how old.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Roughly was he going?
Nine and a half.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
Wow, that's crazy and uh and yeah.
So so we got permission on the.
What we figured, I guess, whenbucks get older, I guess we
figure their home range getstighter and tighter.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
That makes sense.
Yeah, less walking.
Speaker 4 (27:34):
Yeah, and I guess once Corey got his buck, we
focused all of our efforts on onhim.
We I think it was the nextweekend we went in, set up a
camera, threw some apples downwhere we figured we could, uh,
we could get him on camera, setup the ground blind.
Right then and there, just incase uh, this is the first week
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of rifle season just in case hestarted showing up.
Uh, buried, buried, the blindand the around the edges and
everything was.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
That's good.
I don't do that, that's.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
That's a good tip right there yeah, taped it up
and uh, I think he was sureenough it was that night he
showed up.
He showed up to the camera anduh, the spot you you couldn't
draw it up any better forgetting in and out of.
It was quite a decent walk toget into, native, but uh, I
couldn't hunt it in the mornings.
There was, there was always,there was does all over the
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fields in the mornings and stuff.
So I there was no way for me toget into the spot.
But in the afternoon, like Iwas, uh, I think I only sat four
times for forum oh wow, yeahyeah, on my second sit, uh, I
was.
Uh, well, I was just.
I was hammering it on my wayhome from Sussex to get to the
spot, walking in, sweating myass off, getting in the blind,
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just racing home from work foryou.
Yeah, getting in there andsitting because it was perfect.
The wind was dead into my facewhile I was walking down every
night.
And, yeah, every night therewas action at the spot.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Were you seeing other bucks?
Speaker 4 (29:04):
but you're holding out, knowing that there was
multiple other other deer there,another good size deer, um, but
specifically you didn't want to.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
you know big brother Corey had set Yep For a certain
one.
You're like I don't want to beshowing them.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
you know some three point exactly Well that these
ones could be, that we couldhave eight years, six years of
history with them at some point,yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
If I pass them.
So so, uh, yeah, I think it wasthe second sit I was in there.
He, uh, there was a lot ofaction that night.
It was like a dreary, overcastnight and uh, the kind the kind
of the scenario.
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I'm sitting in a ground blind,about 100 yards away from an
apple pile and it's kind of anold ran down not ran down, but
just an old field that used tobe farmed at one point that
hadn't been farmed.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Just overgrown yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
Yeah, and beside it was a kind of a even more
overgrown field with a bushfield Bush field- Did you?
Speaker 1 (30:05):
have like good deer trails going through it.
Is that why you okay?
Yeah, it was hammered.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
That's why you're sitting up there, yeah, and uh,
about, uh, probably about anhour before dark, like the, the
group of does came out, a littlelittle spike, and then, uh,
little basket buck came out anduh, I, I started.
I, I just knew from our camerasthat, uh, whenever this group
of does came out, the buck I wasafter was coming out right
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behind them.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Oh, yeah, so new, huh , yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (30:33):
Yeah, it was just according to the cameras.
I guess you never know.
But uh, uh, so he, he came outon my second sit and he stood
right at the edge of the bushfield and he knew I don't know
he's.
It seemed like he knewsomething was up.
I couldn't tell if the deer inthe field were kind of spooking
him or not, but uh, he, he wasstanding uh, square onto me,
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like all I could see was thewhite patch in his neck is in
his antlers and you knew, youknew it was him.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Though, yeah, yeah, yeah I had a.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
I had a like a, a tripod, like like one of those
uh, or I guess is a tripod or abipod, or what do you call it.
Yeah, yeah, you had a how manylegs like a shooting stick.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
One, one stick you didn't get the one leg.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
What's that?
Speaker 1 (31:17):
called monopod yeah, monopod okay so that's just a
shot in the dark there, yeah, soI.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
I had that and all and I had my gun line lined up
on the blind like resting in thelittle there.
Yeah, so I had that and all andI had my gun lined up on the
blind like resting in the littlecrevice I had to open and I had
the scope right just below hiswhite patch and every time I
harpeed it was bumping about aninch left.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
What are you shooting ?
Speaker 4 (31:37):
It was a 270.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
Yeah, yeah, from about 125 yards oh yeah.
Every time I har about 125yards and oh yeah, yeah, every
time my heartbeat I was thescope was jumped in, jumping an
inch left, an inch right.
I could not, I could not, uh, Icouldn't keep it on him and I
wasn't confident enough to pullthe trigger, and so I sat there
and I watched him that's good,though that's really responsible
of you.
Yeah, yeah, no, that's good andyeah, looking back, it was
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probably a good thing youweren't feeling confident with
it.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
No, right, so you didn't shoot yet.
A lot of people might not havethat kind of self-control.
Speaker 4 (32:08):
To begin with, I'm not a real experienced shooter.
I shoot maybe a round or twoevery year to make sure, and
he's honest too, to make sure mygun is shooting where I intend
it to.
(32:32):
That's good to do too.
I'm not shooting boxes of ammolike for for for fun or anything
like that.
So, um, he, uh, I was, Iwatched him it felt like hours,
but it was probably only like 10minutes, five minutes was just
waiting for him to take a stepbroadside so I could just calm
down and hopefully put a goodshot on him.
Then he he stood there staringup up my way, but there's, there
was those between us and him.
So I I don't think he everwinded me because the wind was
he's 100 yards away, wind deadinto in, probably off him into
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the blind.
So and he took one step forwardand I thought he was gonna, I
thought he's gonna, show me hisbroadside.
And then he hopped back intothe woods, oh, and I said, oh,
shoot, that's it, I blew it.
Okay, tell my brother aboutthis one.
Yeah, he was giving, he wasbroadside, and then he hopped
back into the woods, ooh, and Isaid, oh, shoot, that's it.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
I blew it right there .
I'm not going to tell mybrother about this one yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
He was giving me updates.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Oh he was.
Yeah, I was sitting at homejust waiting.
I was like waiting for him.
It's like he just went back tothe woods.
We're like what in the fuck?
Speaker 4 (33:25):
eric there and he came to the apple pile.
But there was there was five.
Does the button?
Buck was right there on thepile.
It was like five minutes beforedark, but it was a really,
really dreary, overcast nightyeah, so it was darker yeah like
I.
I looked through the scope,couldn't.
Couldn't see anything but ablob of brown bodies.
So so I sat there and uh it was.
It was probably a minute or twobefore dark.
I backed up everything and justgot out of there because the
wind was.
It was probably a minute or twobefore derek.
I backed up everything and justgot out of there because the
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wind was perfect and I wasn'tgonna judge him from past.
Uh, pitchers like they wouldeat at the apple pile, then kind
of feed up the field towardsthe blind.
So I said I'm just gonna getout of there and not disturb
anything.
It's too close to derek, Ican't see anything.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
So so you didn't get him that night.
No, no, that's good.
You're really responsible aboutthat one, though yeah yeah, I
came back.
Speaker 4 (34:06):
Came back home was, I guess, called cory on the drive
home I said I blew it, I don'twant to talk to you.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
I'm not even answering your call.
He was sitting brecks.
We figured he had the firstweek to kill him yeah, on the
first week it was curtains no,that's good though, because some
guys, some hunters though Imean we all know them they'd a
buck like that.
They just give him a Hail Mary,just send shots down range and
hope for the best Right, but Imean you feel 10 times worse
wounding him.
Speaker 4 (34:28):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
You know.
So no, good for you, that'sgood.
Speaker 4 (34:30):
Yep, so I sat.
I think it must've been fivesits Cause I sat.
I sat one more night after that.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
It was dead was a really weird weather pattern
that night, like it was likehailing, then it was windy like
crazy, and then thunder andlightning.
We had a weird deer season.
Yeah, what weather?
Yes, that's right.
Speaker 4 (34:50):
And then then I had five coyotes for it run by me
like really yeah, and I was justlike I blew it, I, I was about
ready to hang it up and uh, so Iand another thing too like I
was financially speaking, I wasgetting ready to have to hang it
up.
It was costing $200 every otherday to keep apples.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
Oh really.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
We were hauling 200 pounds of apples.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
You mentioned.
There's people listening tothis in Maine and stuff, where
they're not allowed to bait atall, and they're listening to
this, hearing that you guys arespending what?
Just $200 a day in apples.
Speaker 4 (35:23):
Every other day.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Every other day.
That's insane.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
I I don't even do that, but you know 100 pounds of
apples 100 pounds, if you cando it why not, and there wasn't
a scrap on the ground three dayslater you're fattening up
everyone else's deer so I said Igotta, something's gonna happen
here.
I'm gonna have to take out aloan or something, yeah and uh.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
So I can't Imagine explaining that one to the bank.
Speaker 4 (35:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
That's right, or the wife.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
Yeah, or the wife, or trying to put it through your
dairy thing.
Well, guys, your dairy check'sgoing to be a little slower this
week.
Got some apples to buy.
Speaker 4 (35:56):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
So I guess, so it is go time.
Speaker 4 (36:02):
Yeah, and like I talked, so it was go time.
Yes, and, and like I talkedabout it with cory, quite a bit
like the spot was, the spot wasfine and he was still showing up
on camera.
Just an hour after yeah like we.
We knew the spot wasn't ruined.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
It was too clean of an exit and too too good to but
you're trying to reassess if, ifyou set up another spot, would
you have a better shot at him.
But you know he's coming intothere.
Yeah, you could enter and exitexactly easily, which is really
important.
So you figured no, I'm justgonna stick it out just need the
cars to align and uh, and thenext night I sat it was sunday,
november 3rd I think.
Speaker 4 (36:35):
Um, it was kind of another overcasty day and a lot
of action, like super early itwas.
Like it was like I think it wasdark at 5 30 that night and at
like four o'clock, like the,there was five or six does and
the and the spike horn out atthe apples eating he never
showed.
He, he wasn't there and healways followed that kind of
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that group it seemed like fromthe camera never showed.
Uh, they, they sat around.
Eight came back, came, fedtheir way around up towards the
blind, then went back into thisuh, bushfield.
15 minutes later they came backyet again, but this time I
could tell there was there'ssomething off about them.
Like they, they would, theywould walk a walk a bit, eat,
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stick their head up, look backtowards the, the bush field, you
figured a buck was coming in.
Yeah, I figured there wassomething, something was going
on.
So they fed their way outtowards the apples and it was
like they kept looking uptowards the blind.
They stopped looking at thebush field, kept looking up
towards the blind and kind of myarea.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
You're thinking, is there a buck that's going to
come right in behind me?
Speaker 4 (37:44):
Yeah, that's right.
So I said something's weird.
I didn't know what to think.
I was just watching.
I was watching the same area ofthe bush field he came out to
two nights ago.
I was thinking he was going tocome right back out of there.
I was ready this time I wasn'tgoing to let the opportunity
pass, so he wasn't showing.
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Gonna let the opportunity pass,so it was he wasn't showing.
He wasn't showing.
It was about it's probably likeit was 15 minutes before legal
shooting light.
I had been, I'd been sittingstaring kind of at the left, uh
like at the right of my blindfor so long looking at these
does just feeding up and downthe edge of this bush line.
I was, uh, I had to likereadjust my seat so I I kind of
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sat up this board and there's asqueak in it.
Yeah, looked at the, looked outthe left of my blind and he was
in the buck I shot was standingbroadside, 30 yards from me oh
really, he's that close Ifigured he circled the blind
when he came out of the bushfield.
Yeah and uh, I didn't have.
I didn't have any time to getnervous this time, so I hauled
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my rifle up and I had to.
The blind was kind of in theway of my scope.
So I pulled it up over thescope and he started.
He started kind of trottingtowards the does as soon as I
had it on him and I just saidhey, and he stopped and I
hammered him, he, he kind ofhobbled off.
I was getting ready torechamber another round because
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he was still out in the fieldand he kind of hobbled behind a
patch of trees and I couldn'tsee him anymore.
Before I was able to getanother shot off and I sat and
just kind of listened and waitedand I called Corey and I said I
let a shot go.
I think I hit him pretty good.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
Of course, you better have made it count.
Speaker 4 (39:24):
I think I hammered him, and so I waited a little
bit until it was dark.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
Wait, you never got a chance for another shot.
Speaker 4 (39:33):
No, okay, and the last I seen he hobbled kind of
behind this clump of trees inthe field and so I put my gun in
the case, got out of the blind,I had a pair of binoculars on
me and I walked up the, I gotout the exit and I kind of I got
to a place kind of maybe like100, 200 yards away where I
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could.
It was kind of a high pointwhere I could see actually in
behind this little clump oftrees, and I took out my binos
and I glassed down there and Icould see a white belly laying
on the ground.
So I I called cory and I saidI'm getting out of here.
Anyways, I don't know, uh,we'll, I'll get out of here,
we'll come back, we'll group upand then we'll go.
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We'll go back and see whathappened.
You never know, I guess, if hewas wounded and just laying
there or if he shot the wrongdeer or that's somebody else's
deer.
Yeah, that's right.
So, so I got out of there, gotgot, uh, got resituated, we, uh,
we came back in, walked downand, uh, we tried to find where,
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where I had shot him.
Couldn't find any blood at all,like 30 blood at all, like 30
yards didn't look good cory waskind of he was.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
He said you missed him.
You missed him like he blew it.
Of course, boxing skills.
So that's it.
Speaker 4 (40:50):
You're getting there, we get home so I said well, I
know I've seen him go behindhere and I knew I seen a white
belly laying down, so let's justcreep around this angle and see
if we can see him.
And the white belly was stillthere, so we crept up on him
just to make sure he wasn'tstill alive or anything, and he
was landed.
He was it.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
It was a clean, kill, yeah, good.
Did you end up getting thatdeer scored?
Speaker 4 (41:15):
Yes, I did, yeah, and he was 156 and 7 eighths.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
Hey, that's not bad at all.
Speaker 4 (41:22):
And he had a 3 inch abdonable.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
He was 160 and 1 8th gross 160 and 1 8th gross.
Speaker 4 (41:33):
with the 3 inch he has a split brow time.
He ended up netting 148 and 78ths.
Speaker 1 (41:40):
That's a good buck.
You guys had a great season.
Speaker 2 (41:49):
I can't beat that.
I was just as excited as lukewas.
I mean, I six years pictures ofthis deer and I never laid eyes
on him.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
Yeah, well, I mean you're happy that someone you
knew, especially your brother,got him right.
You know that's nice too,that's just not no offense.
But you know it wasn't justsome random person from out of
town cruising by like, oh,there's a buck with antlers,
drop them right.
You know there's something thatyou had history with and your
brother got them, and you knowit's really good yeah, and the
score doesn't really do his buckjustice, like the mass on this
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deer was incredible.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
Yeah, you know.
The first circumferencemeasurement between the six
inches oh really something likethat, just massive wow, yeah, he
was eating well.
Yeah, and nice, right out tothe tips of the tines, you know.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
Yeah, Just a huge yeah.
A hundred dollars of apples aday.
You'd hope he'd have big oldantlers on him right, yep, yeah,
that's right.
Speaker 4 (42:35):
And I guess, in looking back at that story, like
I don't know, in regardsregards to the new rules and new
runs, look like, uh, permissionand stuff like that, like we
needed the permission this yearon this land you need written
permission to hunt onagriculture land.
That's right and we secured thewritten permission early and I
know the farmer or the yeah, the.
The landowner had multipleother people ask and okay, yeah,
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they were denied because uh,because he had already signed a
form for someone.
Speaker 2 (43:04):
So I think that has changed the game a little bit.
I've noticed a difference inour area in terms of drive-bys.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
I think it's helped.
I mean those that are going tobreak the law anyways you're not
going to stop them.
They're going to do it.
But I think the big thing withhaving written permission to be
on agriculture land in our areais going to help with the farmer
, saving them in arguments withpeople.
You know, I think it's going tobe a lot of.
It is saving them likesomeone's, like I can hunt where
I want, like well, no, youcan't, because I mean you do get
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a bit of that, uh, entitlement.
I guess you could say yeah itwas kind of.
Speaker 4 (43:36):
It was kind of music through our ears when we heard
it, because we uh we don'talways hunt on our own land and
we never hunt without permission, even if it's unpostered or not
.
We've got permission whereverwe go.
So the only one of the majorbattles we always face is random
people showing up to our spotsthat don't have permission.
(43:57):
I guess Not that they needed itin certain locations, but
Ethically, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
But I personally found a lot less traffic in our
normal hunting areas yeah, yeahno, it's good.
The only thing I can think ofis uh, reason right, but yeah, I
know, uh, out of my parentsplace.
Speaker 1 (44:15):
I don't hunt there because of all the traffic but
after fencing in the field forthe cows, that helped a bit with
, you know, four strands ofelectric fence with nine and a
half thousand kilovolts per line.
But you know, not everyone cando that, but that helped.
But yeah, ethically everyoneshould be, you know, hopefully
asking permission to wherethey're hunting, but it doesn't
mean everyone will.
But no, boys, that was a goodstory, both of you guys' stories
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.
You guys had a great year.
Can't wait for everyone on thepodcast profile picture to see
what you guys got hanging on thewalls now.
That's really good.
I plan on having you guys bothout again.
Corey, you have a lot morehunting stories.
You do too.
Luke, thanks to big brotherCorey, though right Yep.
Speaker 4 (44:57):
I'm lucky if I'm anything.
Speaker 1 (44:59):
Hey, I'll take luck over hard work any day.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
Alright, thanks, boys , thank you.
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This week we have a tale of twobig bucks taken from the past,
2024 season, told by twobrothers who were fortunate
enough to harvest these monsters.
Older brother, corey Chase,wearing all camo in the picture,
and younger brother, luke Chase, wearing an orange hat and a
giant beard, are lucky enough tobe able to live near each other
and bond over big bucks nearlyevery deer season.
A successful big buck huntermost years.
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So, boys, thanks for coming outhere.
You know they say that brotherswho hunt together, there is a
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bond created that is justunparalleled and unmatched to
anything else.
Would you guys agree?
Speaker 2 (02:04):
I would say so, yeah, I think so okay fair enough.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
So, uh, cory, you are the older brother and more of
the deer hunter were you.
I mean, where was your start inhunting?
Speaker 2 (02:15):
I would say I started hunting when I was well, as
soon as I was legal, so 16 yearsold would have been 2004 maybe
yeah, um, just my dad.
My dad got me into hunting,right your dad did.
Okay, he was a big hunter, so Iget into it that way and just
consistently hunted every year.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
And then, luke, were you to tag?
Did you tag along with cory, orwere you the apple carrier for
going out to the deer stand, orwhat?
Speaker 4 (02:41):
yeah, probably similar to cory, corey, like my
dad got me into it, probably, Idon't know, maybe a younger age
than Corey, since he got into itand I was just always around,
so I always had to be druggedwith him.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Yeah, we actually have a picture together.
I was 16 or 17, and you wouldhave been 6 or 7, with a Buckeye
shot.
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Yeah, so you've always been after.
Yeah, cause you're, you're abig, uh, you're, you're deer
hunter.
Basically, you're not going tosee pictures with you out
hunting geese or squirrels orrabbits or anything else.
You focus on deer and you do.
You do a lot of scouting.
You're in the woods, corey, youknow all year round deer, a
shed hunter in the area here ofNew Brunswick.
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What do you think helps withyour success with getting big
deer fairly consistently yearafter year?
Is it the scouting?
Is it just time in the woods?
Is it shit luck?
Is it the area you're in?
A combination of all of it?
Speaker 2 (03:35):
I'd say a little bit of everything, right?
I mean, the first step isyou've got to locate a big buck.
So that's the first challenge.
You definitely need luck, butyou can increase your luck by
time in the field, scouting,doing your homework, right,
right, playing the wind, youknow every advantage you can
have.
You can increase.
You're looking at.
You're looking at everything.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Yeah and then what got you really into?
Uh, to the antler, you knowfinding sheds, because there's a
lot of people who are deerhunters that they're not.
I don't know if they're muchfor shed hunters, maybe they're
just not successful ones, butyou've.
You find a lot, year after year, very consistently.
What kind of got you into that?
Was it because of deer hunting?
You liked finding them?
Was it because you're lookingfor a certain buck to see if he
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lived?
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Yeah, I'd say just any time I could put.
In the woods looking for deeris what really got me into it.
I remember I found my first setof sheds when I was 15 years
old, so that'd be 22 years ago,right?
So I found my first set ofthose mathematicians.
We know your age now yeah, I was, uh, I was 15 years old and
then I kind of got out of a bitbecause I went to, went to
college and was working, puttingin a lot of hours, and then I
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really started getting back intoit in 2015, 2016.
Yeah, uh, one of my closefriends, he's a he's a good shed
hunter.
He found 50 sheds one year.
So I started hanging around withhim a little more and, you know
, get back into it.
Now I'm finding, like you know,20 sheds a year and he kills
big bucks.
So you know, there's that oldsaying show me your friends,
they'll show you, your future.
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So you hang around little bigbucks.
You'll probably kill themyourself.
So yeah, that's what I do trueenough.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
And then you know, finding the sheds too.
There's some people that mightbe listening to this and other
provinces or even states thatthinking that 20 sheds a year is
not that much.
But for our area we've got deerbut it's not, it's not managed
at all.
We don't have, we don't havedeer management here and uh, for
the we have a good populationbut it's not big population.
Some, some of the States and orprovinces you know.
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So that's that's really good.
I mean most people if they'refunding three or four a year a
year, they're pretty happy aboutthat.
Yeah, yeah.
So to be able to find that manyconsistently, uh, for the
profile picture, this podcast,that Corey's nose is a little
bit crooked.
Corey, you did some boxing.
You were really into the boxingbefore.
Do you think that thededication and the work involved
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in being a boxer helped that'sjust your personality with deer
hunting, because I mean you'repretty committed to deer hunting
.
All the scouting and trailcameras and stuff.
Does that carry over?
You find?
Speaker 2 (05:59):
your personality.
I would say it definitely helps, right?
You know the dedication you putinto the sport now that?
I would say it definitely helps, right, you know the dedication
you put into the sport Now thatthe sport's out of my life.
I'm just a fan now.
So I take that dedication andapply it to that.
So that's my challenge now.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
All right, yeah, so that's kind of what I thought.
Right, yeah, that's exactlyright.
Then Luke, what do you do forwork?
Speaker 4 (06:16):
I work for the New Brunswick Milk Board.
Okay, that's right.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
keep the farmers happy, get paid every month yeah
, they appreciate it they gotthe bills, so where do you so,
where was, what was your startin hunting?
Speaker 4 (06:28):
you're saying kind of just going along with cory and
yeah, yeah, I uh always, uhalways, went out with my dad
every year.
Wasn't too too big into kind ofpursuing anything by myself, I
guess I always accompaniedsomebody.
And then I think it was 2018 or2017, corey had tagged out for
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the year and he had some standsalready set up, so he told me I
should move in on one of hisstands and try it out, it's very
brotherly of him.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
That's right 2017.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
Yeah, 2017.
So I got my butt out of bedevery morning there for about a
week and, uh, and I I shot anice buck that year and that
kind of got me hooked on it.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Yeah, yeah yeah, so did you hunt like small game a
bit before yeah you weren't into, like the duck, hunting geese,
stuff like that, because thearea you guys live in too it's.
It's really good for that.
If you're into waterfowl yeahbut it, uh, it grows big bucks.
So you guys had a good yearthis past year.
2024 season.
Um cory, if you wanted to startus off now, you guys, you got a
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little history with the deeryeah, with both deer, with both
deer yeah, luke, you do, oryou're just kind of taking
cory's yeah, orders.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
Yeah, working together with cory, okay, yeah,
being an extra set of hands.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Yeah, there you go it's a lot of work yeah um,
because I mean how many camerasare you running, cory?
Roughly close to 30 yeah, it'sa lot to keep track of.
That's a lot.
That's almost a full-time jobright there of itself, but yeah,
uh.
Well for an outfitter sayinghere, it's just for you.
So yeah that's good.
It's a lot of work.
Um, I don't know who wants tostart us off on this season, how
we got started, because I knowit didn't just start the first
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day deer season.
It started long before then.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
I'm assuming yeah, no , that's right, I can kick it
off.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
Yeah, you go ahead because you, you killed yours
first.
Yeah, okay, yeah, fair enough.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
so if I rewind the clock, um you know when I think
of the 2024 season.
I mean it's going to be veryhard to top this season right.
We both tagged two bucks in thefirst week that you know.
We're almost 160-inch deer, soreal good year in that regards,
but started out just like anormal year.
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I'm running my cameras, I'mscouting, not too many targets
in mind.
Because you keep your camerasout year-round, right, yeah,
year-round, yeah, the only timethey're out of the woods is like
probably from middle ofFebruary till maybe June.
Okay, and then I put some saltor whatever and start getting
some cameras up.
So same thing, put the camerasup seeing what's around, Don't
get too excited, unless Istarted getting, you know,
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something really big on camera.
So, um, I'd actually hadcameras set up for Luke's buck
in June because I actually had,what did I say, eight years of
pictures of that buck Luke.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
Yeah, eight years, eight years, 2018.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
The one that you got this year Luke.
Yep, because that was eightyears old, or at least, at least
no, it was probably, maybe noteight years of pictures.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Six years of pictures and we figured it was two and a
half.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Three and three and a half when I started getting
them.
Yeah, wow, at least eight, nine.
Probably had you been trying toget him before or just want.
I mean, do you, you pass up ona lot?
Right, gory, you shoot big deer.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Yeah, obviously, so you have to pass up on a few I
had hunted the deer um, not hard, periodically, because I was
after the one that I shot in2022, so I had hunted that deer
for four years, yeah.
So I didn't put a lot of timeinto the one luke killed in 24,
but lots of pictures of him yearafter year had to shed off him
from 2021, I believe.
So I knew he was around, so putcameras out for him.
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Um, sure enough, startedgetting pictures of him all
summer into the fall.
Um had another spot set up,nothing big on camera, and then,
lo and behold, I think it waslike the third week of bow
season I started gettingpictures of this high rack 10
pointer.
Yeah, and I knew the deerbecause I'd actually had
pictures of the deer since since2021.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Right.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Um had a shed off him from 2021, baited them all
winter in 2022, trying to gethis sheds.
He shed.
I never found the sheds.
Not many pictures in 23.
And then he kind of showed upout of nowhere the third week of
bow season.
So I think I put two hunts onhim in bow season, Just kind of
picked my days.
No luck, and then I ended upgetting him the second day of
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rifle season.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Did you?
Yeah, yeah, I mean so, thoselistening.
So Did you?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean so,those listening.
So in New Brunswick, here youget out an extra three weeks
early for bow, ahead of the gunhunters.
Um, so that can help us fundthe deer and to their, their
summer habits.
They're as predictable asanimals can be, really.
And then, um, yeah, so youhunted him then and you didn't,
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uh, you didn't have much luckduring bow season.
How much, since you do shootbig bucks, how much attention do
you pay to like barometricpressure, the wind and all that?
Do you look at that much themoon phases?
Speaker 2 (11:11):
No, the only thing I really pay attention to is the
wind, yeah, and the frost, likeif it's a frosty morning.
I won't go because I think theyhear you.
You won't.
No, I think they hear you walkin right, huh, right.
Yeah, I've had experiences inthe past of deer hearing me walk
in.
I actually did a trial one timein 2018.
I was after a buck.
He was about 140 inch buck.
Yeah, every time I go to thestand he wouldn't show.
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He'd show after I was gone.
Like you know, if I took a dayoff, I did a, did a test.
One time, I took Luke with me.
That way, he left when I got inthe stand and the buck came out
that night.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Really.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Yeah, I think they sometimes are bedded closer than
you think.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
So with the frost?
Yeah, frosty mornings, theyhear you walk in.
Yeah, they won't come in.
I don't think.
Anyways, Paint us a picture ofwhat kind of area you're hunting
.
You're kind of in a cedar swamp.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Yeah, cedar, a little bit of hardwood mix, yeah.
There's a lot of agriculturearound Good farm fields, corn
fields, alfalfa, stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Okay, yeah, so then this season.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
So if you just want to walk us through, yeah, so
anyway, this high rack10-pointer shows up and of
course I got histories of thedeer.
So I automatically divert myattention from the buck that
Luke ended up shooting because Iwasn't getting a lot of
pictures of him at the time,didn't even have a spot set up
but we had permission on a lotof pictures of him at the time.
Didn't even have a spot set upbut we had permission on a place
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property.
I had the cameras up, knew hewas in the area, but this buck
that I ended up shooting justshowed up and I said, you know,
oh geez, this is a goodopportunity because I won.
I got a shed off the deer.
Yeah, and that's always beenkind of a goal of mine is to
kill a new brunswick buck that Ihave sheds off.
All right.
Yeah.
Which is very hard to do.
So he became target number oneand it was really strange, he
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was daylighting at like 11 inthe morning, 10, 11 in the
morning.
He did it four mornings in arow on the last week of bow
season I sat two mornings, andthe two mornings I sat he didn't
show up and I was like he's gotto be here Was it frosty that
morning.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
One of the mornings was frosty and you still went
out.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Eh, I did Just because he, you know, you get a
little anxious.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Oh yeah, no, I definitely would yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
And he didn't show.
So I changed it up.
One night he actually showed uplike 20 minutes after I left.
Oh, yeah, yeah, so I mean I wasconfident he was bedding close,
he was just hearing me.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Yeah, and there's a.
I think there's a fair amountof hunting pressure around you
too so.
I mean, you're like you saidabout uh, going in, not trying
not to go in when it's frosty.
It's like it doesn't like.
Hey, this is a safe place foryou.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
In our area it's almost critical.
You know, if you're on a bigbuck, it's almost critical to
get them a bow season Cause ifyou don't, your chances in my
mind go down every day.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Talking about a couple episodes ago.
You know a few episodes gothrough Ryan on saying when he
got the bow he knew if youdidn't get him during bow season
it's not happening because ofall the hunters around you get a
shot in the dark and the rutyou know.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
The rut is late here, I find too, so it's not even
that great.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
It is, yeah, the bucks.
That's when, like, all bets areoff.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
then I mean somebody randomly just driving by.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
You know can probably 6k okay that's not real far.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
No, yeah, and you're getting the same bucks on camera
, yeah okay, yeah yeah, yeah,the bucks that we've killed.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Like I said, I've had them on camera.
It's funny, you know the foryears, 10 years of history
between the two deer wow, that'scrazy, you know four years of
the one I shot and six years ofthe one luke shot and those are
the deer worth getting too right.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
I mean it's nice to get the one that, like I didn't
know he was here and droppedthis monster, but I mean just
having the history like that.
You have so much more investedinto it so that when you do, you
know, pull the trigger, let thearrow go on it.
It's just, it's that much moreof a you know, wow, I did it.
You know it's a bigaccomplishment, yeah, so yeah,
uh, yeah, cory, sorry, I'll letyou know, pick it up yeah, no
(15:17):
problem.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
So anyway, I tried them a couple times in boces, no
luck and all day sets.
I went in one morning, satright from you daylight.
I went in the dark, sat fromdaylight to dark, seen some deer
, had some small bucks come in.
That one day I think I don'tknow if you remember, luke, I
think it had a four or sixpointer come in like three times
that day, and I'm talking 12yards.
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I'm hunting a ground blind.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
So the wind was in your favor, or he just didn't
see you wind was in my favor,but I'll tell you that's one of
my little little trade secrets.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
You'll never see me sitting in a tree stand.
Oh, you don't.
No, okay, I've done that.
I did that for years growing upyou're in a ground blind I'm in
a ground blind, okay, and.
But the ground blind is well,well secured.
You know the the the edges areburied in the sod, the windows
are tape shot with duct tape.
There's just one hole bigenough to shoot from, that's it.
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So the scent can't get out ofthe blind.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
Okay, yeah, I did not know that.
That's just my little trick.
Yeah, this was the first year Ihunted in a grand blind.
I didn't like that.
I couldn't see as well, but Idid feel a lot better concealed
and I felt that my scent wasbetter concealed, all that you
know.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
So I'll do it again, even in a tree stand if you're
hunting a good wind.
Sometimes it does weird things.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
It swirls you know, they just.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Sometimes they catch your wind right.
Yeah.
And there's always big box,usually always circle too, if
they're coming into a bait orsomething.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Yeah, Well, you'll hear them go around.
I mean they're not that big'llbe checking it out and I find
this year, yeah, the groundblood did.
It was that difference, youknow the deer, just they just
weren't winding me at all.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Yeah, no, it's a big difference, it was a game
changer for me.
So I'll never, I'll never goback to a tree stand.
And oh, the last three deer wekilled, you know 160 inch box.
They've all been shot at aground blood.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Okay, yes, sir, yeah, I didn't know that.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Yeah, so anyways, all day sits.
Never came in.
I go home, he shows up, yeah,so I know he's close, right, so
I'll give him a couple of daysoff.
You know I don't like to hunttwo days in a row.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
I don't even like to hunt a spot anymore in like four
or five times Because you'rereally careful with the pressure
, Real careful.
Your first set's your best one,right yeah?
Speaker 2 (17:22):
I get nervous If I don't get on my first set.
I get nervous.
Yeah.
So anyway, give him some timeoff.
Like I said, a couple of setsin bow season snuck into my
stand, knew I'd get in.
You know I thought undetectedbecause I had deer coming in all
day.
So that was a good sign.
But something just didn't feelright.
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I felt it was the second day ofrifle season.
I guess I went to work thatmorning.
It was kind of wet that day andhe'd been coming in between 10
and 11 in the morning and I saidthis is the morning.
So I went out.
I got in the stand at like 9.45in the morning, crawled into
the stand.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
A bit late by most guys' standards.
Yeah, a bit late by most guys'standards yeah, a bit late.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Killed a deer at 1026 or something.
You did get him.
Huh, yeah, what'd you get himwith Muzzle loader?
It was a muzzle loader.
Yeah, got him with a muzzleloader.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
So in New Brunswick, here we have an extended they
just started this a few yearsago extra 10 bucks and you get
an extra week.
Uh, but you were hunting duringthe regular rifle, so was there
?
Speaker 2 (18:28):
a particular reason you decided to break out the
muzzleloader.
One of the main reasons was I Imean, I'm not a real, real
muzzleloader.
Uh, it's just unique.
It's a unique weapon I didn'tknow anything about them going
into it, I bought.
The only reason I bought onewas for the extra week the year
before, right yeah so I startedshooting my muzzleloader in the
early fall of 24 just to getready, and I fell in love with
the gun.
It just shoots.
(18:49):
Beautiful, it's not a high-endmuzzleloader.
It's a Buckstocker.
Buckstocker Got it at Bass Pro.
Who makes that?
I'm not even sure.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
It's like the Cabela's Value brand.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Oh, okay, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
But if you look at the ratings of it you know, like
the, the trigger pull or theratings are, the ratings of it
are through.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
So how many grains?
Are you measuring the grains?
Speaker 2 (19:09):
because we talked about this last week.
I use the hot shot okay, areyou?
Speaker 1 (19:12):
are you measuring the grains and the powder you put
in or the, the actual leaditself, the powder I guess you
are okay with.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Yeah, they're all pre-weighed out for me, like you
know.
Some know, some guys do measure, but Because I didn't know.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
I know with you know, rifle bullets.
I was like the powder by whatthey put it, the grains by the
powder they put in there.
But I thought for themuzzleloader they more measure
it by the grains of the bulletitself.
I don't know, I don't knowanything about them Could be.
I'm not, I don't know at all,but same same here, so yeah
anyways, started shooting therifle, fell in love with it
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really.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Oh, it's the sweetest , yeah, so how?
Speaker 1 (19:47):
many yards, because we talked about this a few weeks
ago too.
How many yards are you accuratewith it?
Speaker 2 (19:52):
because I've I know some guys had a lot of trouble
sighting them in I was shooting50 okay, 50 yards quite
confidently quite confidently,but keeping the gun clean was a
challenge, right that's whatI've heard.
After two shots, three shots,three shots maximum.
You can hardly push the bulletdown the barrel after three
shots, really, yeah, wow, yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
It's phenomenal how dirty they get that's what Kyle
Gillies was saying on our trivianight there about just keeping
it clean.
Keep it clean.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Yeah, I think that's probably the biggest thing in
your accuracy and consistency.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Compared to I mean, you've bow hunted Compared to,
bow hunting is muzzleloader.
Do you have to get that into it?
You know what I mean.
Like for bow hunting.
No one's just like I'm justgoing to buy a bow and just
shoot it.
You have to get into it.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Yeah, I think.
So you definitely got to knowyour weapon, right?
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Every weapon shoots a little different.
Yeah, just find that.
With the bows, you know,obviously the practice, but just
like your broadheads, yourarrows, your fletchings, your
the release you're using Ifyou're shooting, compound all
that stuff, do you have to getthat into it with the
muzzleloader, do you find?
Speaker 2 (20:50):
I would say not Okay, there's less gear.
Right, there's less things youknow, there's less less you know
there's really hard yeah.
I couldn't like Luke's neverhad a chance to fire it.
I told him he's got to try it.
You love it yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Yeah, I know I fired a buddy of mine, denver's, and
uh, it was a lot of fun.
It was.
It was fun to shoot.
It was.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
his wasn't sighted in at the time we were just like
kind of you know, randomlyshooting you can size the bullet
and stuff, but no really niceweapon to shoot.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Yeah, so that's how you got.
The buck was with that.
You just chose that gun andenjoyed it.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Yeah, and just the setup right, the yardage of the
shot.
I mean the farther shot I wouldhave had.
I was hunting them with bow,obviously, so the farther shot I
would have had, even with a bow, would have been 20 yards, just
at a little tiny thing and youweren't having trouble with
being winded no at all.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
So do you wear scent eliminator?
Yes, you do.
Yeah, okay, I always askeverybody.
I don't really believe in itmuch.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
You know what I didn't believe in it, but I
don't change my mind, really Idid I see I wash my clothes in
the sun eliminator detergent.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
I shower before I go I find it can help.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
But I mean, do you even put on, like the lip chap
and all that?
See what I mean?
Your lip?
You're shedding skin cells,right?
That has scent, yeah to it.
But I find it helps.
I don't I don't wear it at all,I don't really believe in it
with the how many million centolfactory scent receptacles,
whatever the deer have.
But I'm always, I always liketo ask everybody, you know, if
they use it or not and stuff.
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But yeah, I think it helps whatyou do.
Yeah, and stuff.
But I find that deer, dependingon the wind, they always know
that you're there.
It's just how big of a threat.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Yeah, they feel that you are that is definitely not
going to save you if the wind'son your baby no it's definitely
not, but and just to kind ofpaint the picture for like the
listener.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
And the reason why the frost and stuff matters is
because we're hunting from aground blind.
But generally speaking it's notlike a 200 yard rifle shot or
something like.
It's up close and personal,yeah in the bedding area.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Yeah, exactly yeah yeah, I mean you hear a lot of
guys talk about that's uh,that's tricky zone getting into
the bedding area because I meanyou, you really don't want to
spook them out of there at all.
So you got to be real quiet,careful and mind your scent as
best as you can getting in andout.
You know we've talked aboutthat before too on here about a
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lot of guys.
They might have the great setupand all that, but when they're
leaving they're bumping deerwhen they're leaving and then
the deer are like you know what,screw this, I'm done, I'm
leaving and stuff.
So that's important too.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
Yeah, no, for sure.
And yeah, like we won't evenset up honestly, like we find
good spots but we won't even setup if it's not a good spot to
hunt like dominant wind rightyeah, like the spot where I
killed my deer.
Perfect spot.
Yeah, I could hunt it, like youknow, nine days out of ten, yep
, just good spot for thedominant wind.
Um, easy in, easy out, that'sthe key, like you said, same
(23:41):
with yeah, same with luke's spottoo.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
So you end up dropping with muzzle loader.
You're happy about it.
So he was big deer.
So you, you scored him.
What do you score?
Speaker 2 (23:48):
yeah, we actually had just had him, uh, just had him
officially scored last weekend.
So when we, when we, when Ishot him, I think I green scored
him.
He's like 161 inches orsomething like that.
So we officially scored himlast weekend he was 157 and
seven eights.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
That's a big buck.
So in New Brunswick for rifleit needs to be 145.
140.
140?
Yeah, Okay, the net to get intothe record books.
So you definitely made it.
That's really good.
We were talking earlier.
You're going with a friend ofours to take the course to learn
how to officially score deer.
Oh, is it just deer?
Are you doing?
Are you taking the course fordeer?
Speaker 3 (24:23):
moose bear, uh that I'm not sure I think so lane was
talking.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
I think it's all of them, it's everything, because
he was asking about maybe takingmine and my uncle's moose skull
the antlers in to score thattoo.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
So I'm guessing it's all of it okay which is really
good, just to keep that I thinkdeer the hardest thing to score,
like.
I think, yeah, pretty simple.
I think bear is pretty simplethere, I'm pretty sure Just
measured the skull Skull widthor length yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Yeah, all right, luke , your turn, you're up.
That's how Corey got his deerfor this year.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
Yeah, I guess.
Yeah, kind of similar toCorey's buck.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Beat that story right .
Yeah, that's right.
Maybe you should have wentfirst.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
No, Kind of.
I guess what, like what Coreywas saying earlier, is we had
six years of pictures of thebuck pretty pretty well in the
summer and then sporadicallyduring hunting season.
I think never really had themconsistently during hunting
season.
This year, I think, kind of wefound the.
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We kind of got the missingpiece of the puzzle and got
permission on a good piece ofproperty where we thought we, I
guess what turned out to be hishome range, had a feeling he was
there.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Yeah.
So do you hunt with a bow too,or no?
No, just rifle, just rifle,okay yeah.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
And yeah, so so we we hadn't even set.
We had a.
We got permission on the landfor rifle.
We hadn't set up a spot yet inrifle.
We, um, we hadn't set up a spotyet in, uh, in rifle.
We we were kind of did we havea camera up at the time?
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Yeah, we had cameras up?
Speaker 4 (25:48):
Yeah, but we're getting pictures of them.
Didn't have a specific cameraat the spot.
We we were going to try andkill him at, but, um, yeah, so I
guess we trying to think.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
So are you hunting out of a grand blind as well?
Speaker 4 (26:02):
Yeah, you are.
Okay, are you?
Hunting out of a grand blind aswell.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Yeah, you are okay, yeah, so cool you listen to cory
on that one.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
Yes, yeah, is that why you do it, yeah, or is it
just more convenient?
Or yeah, I'm not the, I'm notthe smallest guy, I'll tell you.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Well, it definitely comes in handy this year.
This past fall, as you guysknow, we had a lot of rain.
Yeah, we had a lot of rain.
Remember just sitting on mygrand blind a little bit, like
you know, this is pretty nice.
Like I was dry, I was expectinga couple drops here and there,
but no, it's good.
You know, yeah, I was just likethat kid.
You know, with adhd, when it'sraining, your parents tell you
not to touch the side of thetent.
I was like fiddling with alittle bit, but it was okay
because I wasn't laying down,you know.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
So yeah, like cory said he had been, he had been
hunting this deer but neverreally never really had pictures
in hunting season.
So another buck that showed upwould take president or
something like that.
And once cory got his deer, wasit october 20, 28, I think.
I shot mine the 29th, 29th ofoctober.
We kind of we set our sights on, uh, where this buck could be,
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because he in 2021 he wasprobably at his prime for at the
moment and then he 2022 wentdownhill and I think 2023, 2024
we had good winners and hereally rebounded nicely in 2024
and we figured it was going tobe his best year so you figure
how old.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Roughly was he going?
Nine and a half.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
Wow, that's crazy and uh and yeah.
So so we got permission on the.
What we figured, I guess, whenbucks get older, I guess we
figure their home range getstighter and tighter.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
That makes sense.
Yeah, less walking.
Speaker 4 (27:34):
Yeah, and I guess once Corey got his buck, we
focused all of our efforts on onhim.
We I think it was the nextweekend we went in, set up a
camera, threw some apples downwhere we figured we could, uh,
we could get him on camera, setup the ground blind.
Right then and there, just incase uh, this is the first week
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of rifle season just in case hestarted showing up.
Uh, buried, buried, the blindand the around the edges and
everything was.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
That's good.
I don't do that, that's.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
That's a good tip right there yeah, taped it up
and uh, I think he was sureenough it was that night he
showed up.
He showed up to the camera anduh, the spot you you couldn't
draw it up any better forgetting in and out of.
It was quite a decent walk toget into, native, but uh, I
couldn't hunt it in the mornings.
There was, there was always,there was does all over the
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fields in the mornings and stuff.
So I there was no way for me toget into the spot.
But in the afternoon, like Iwas, uh, I think I only sat four
times for forum oh wow, yeahyeah, on my second sit, uh, I
was.
Uh, well, I was just.
I was hammering it on my wayhome from Sussex to get to the
spot, walking in, sweating myass off, getting in the blind,
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just racing home from work foryou.
Yeah, getting in there andsitting because it was perfect.
The wind was dead into my facewhile I was walking down every
night.
And, yeah, every night therewas action at the spot.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Were you seeing other bucks?
Speaker 4 (29:04):
but you're holding out, knowing that there was
multiple other other deer there,another good size deer, um, but
specifically you didn't want to.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
you know big brother Corey had set Yep For a certain
one.
You're like I don't want to beshowing them.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
you know some three point exactly Well that these
ones could be, that we couldhave eight years, six years of
history with them at some point,yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
If I pass them.
So so, uh, yeah, I think it wasthe second sit I was in there.
He, uh, there was a lot ofaction that night.
It was like a dreary, overcastnight and uh, the kind the kind
of the scenario.
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I'm sitting in a ground blind,about 100 yards away from an
apple pile and it's kind of anold ran down not ran down, but
just an old field that used tobe farmed at one point that
hadn't been farmed.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Just overgrown yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
Yeah, and beside it was a kind of a even more
overgrown field with a bushfield Bush field- Did you?
Speaker 1 (30:05):
have like good deer trails going through it.
Is that why you okay?
Yeah, it was hammered.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
That's why you're sitting up there, yeah, and uh,
about, uh, probably about anhour before dark, like the, the
group of does came out, a littlelittle spike, and then, uh,
little basket buck came out anduh, I, I started.
I, I just knew from our camerasthat, uh, whenever this group
of does came out, the buck I wasafter was coming out right
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behind them.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
Oh, yeah, so new, huh , yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (30:33):
Yeah, it was just according to the cameras.
I guess you never know.
But uh, uh, so he, he came outon my second sit and he stood
right at the edge of the bushfield and he knew I don't know
he's.
It seemed like he knewsomething was up.
I couldn't tell if the deer inthe field were kind of spooking
him or not, but uh, he, he wasstanding uh, square onto me,
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like all I could see was thewhite patch in his neck is in
his antlers and you knew, youknew it was him.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Though, yeah, yeah, yeah I had a.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
I had a like a, a tripod, like like one of those
uh, or I guess is a tripod or abipod, or what do you call it.
Yeah, yeah, you had a how manylegs like a shooting stick.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
One, one stick you didn't get the one leg.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
What's that?
Speaker 1 (31:17):
called monopod yeah, monopod okay so that's just a
shot in the dark there, yeah, soI.
Speaker 4 (31:22):
I had that and all and I had my gun line lined up
on the blind like resting in thelittle there.
Yeah, so I had that and all andI had my gun lined up on the
blind like resting in the littlecrevice I had to open and I had
the scope right just below hiswhite patch and every time I
harpeed it was bumping about aninch left.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
What are you shooting ?
Speaker 4 (31:37):
It was a 270.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
Yeah, yeah, from about 125 yards oh yeah.
Every time I har about 125yards and oh yeah, yeah, every
time my heartbeat I was thescope was jumped in, jumping an
inch left, an inch right.
I could not, I could not, uh, Icouldn't keep it on him and I
wasn't confident enough to pullthe trigger, and so I sat there
and I watched him that's good,though that's really responsible
of you.
Yeah, yeah, no, that's good andyeah, looking back, it was
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probably a good thing youweren't feeling confident with
it.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
No, right, so you didn't shoot yet.
A lot of people might not havethat kind of self-control.
Speaker 4 (32:08):
To begin with, I'm not a real experienced shooter.
I shoot maybe a round or twoevery year to make sure, and
he's honest too, to make sure mygun is shooting where I intend
it to.
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That's good to do too.
I'm not shooting boxes of ammolike for for for fun or anything
like that.
So, um, he, uh, I was, Iwatched him it felt like hours,
but it was probably only like 10minutes, five minutes was just
waiting for him to take a stepbroadside so I could just calm
down and hopefully put a goodshot on him.
Then he he stood there staringup up my way, but there's, there
was those between us and him.
So I I don't think he everwinded me because the wind was
he's 100 yards away, wind deadinto in, probably off him into
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the blind.
So and he took one step forwardand I thought he was gonna, I
thought he's gonna, show me hisbroadside.
And then he hopped back intothe woods, oh, and I said, oh,
shoot, that's it, I blew it.
Okay, tell my brother aboutthis one.
Yeah, he was giving, he wasbroadside, and then he hopped
back into the woods, ooh, and Isaid, oh, shoot, that's it.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
I blew it right there .
I'm not going to tell mybrother about this one yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
He was giving me updates.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Oh he was.
Yeah, I was sitting at homejust waiting.
I was like waiting for him.
It's like he just went back tothe woods.
We're like what in the fuck?
Speaker 4 (33:25):
eric there and he came to the apple pile.
But there was there was five.
Does the button?
Buck was right there on thepile.
It was like five minutes beforedark, but it was a really,
really dreary, overcast nightyeah, so it was darker yeah like
I.
I looked through the scope,couldn't.
Couldn't see anything but ablob of brown bodies.
So so I sat there and uh it was.
It was probably a minute or twobefore dark.
I backed up everything and justgot out of there because the
wind was.
It was probably a minute or twobefore derek.
I backed up everything and justgot out of there because the
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wind was perfect and I wasn'tgonna judge him from past.
Uh, pitchers like they wouldeat at the apple pile, then kind
of feed up the field towardsthe blind.
So I said I'm just gonna getout of there and not disturb
anything.
It's too close to derek, Ican't see anything.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
So so you didn't get him that night.
No, no, that's good.
You're really responsible aboutthat one, though yeah yeah, I
came back.
Speaker 4 (34:06):
Came back home was, I guess, called cory on the drive
home I said I blew it, I don'twant to talk to you.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
I'm not even answering your call.
He was sitting brecks.
We figured he had the firstweek to kill him yeah, on the
first week it was curtains no,that's good though, because some
guys, some hunters though Imean we all know them they'd a
buck like that.
They just give him a Hail Mary,just send shots down range and
hope for the best Right, but Imean you feel 10 times worse
wounding him.
Speaker 4 (34:28):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
You know.
So no, good for you, that'sgood.
Speaker 4 (34:30):
Yep, so I sat.
I think it must've been fivesits Cause I sat.
I sat one more night after that.
Speaker 1 (34:45):
It was dead was a really weird weather pattern
that night, like it was likehailing, then it was windy like
crazy, and then thunder andlightning.
We had a weird deer season.
Yeah, what weather?
Yes, that's right.
Speaker 4 (34:50):
And then then I had five coyotes for it run by me
like really yeah, and I was justlike I blew it, I, I was about
ready to hang it up and uh, so Iand another thing too like I
was financially speaking, I wasgetting ready to have to hang it
up.
It was costing $200 every otherday to keep apples.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
Oh really.
Speaker 4 (35:12):
We were hauling 200 pounds of apples.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
You mentioned.
There's people listening tothis in Maine and stuff, where
they're not allowed to bait atall, and they're listening to
this, hearing that you guys arespending what?
Just $200 a day in apples.
Speaker 4 (35:23):
Every other day.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Every other day.
That's insane.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
I I don't even do that, but you know 100 pounds of
apples 100 pounds, if you cando it why not, and there wasn't
a scrap on the ground three dayslater you're fattening up
everyone else's deer so I said Igotta, something's gonna happen
here.
I'm gonna have to take out aloan or something, yeah and uh.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
So I can't Imagine explaining that one to the bank.
Speaker 4 (35:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
That's right, or the wife.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
Yeah, or the wife, or trying to put it through your
dairy thing.
Well, guys, your dairy check'sgoing to be a little slower this
week.
Got some apples to buy.
Speaker 4 (35:56):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:58):
So I guess, so it is go time.
Speaker 4 (36:02):
Yeah, and like I talked, so it was go time.
Yes, and, and like I talkedabout it with cory, quite a bit
like the spot was, the spot wasfine and he was still showing up
on camera.
Just an hour after yeah like we.
We knew the spot wasn't ruined.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
It was too clean of an exit and too too good to but
you're trying to reassess if, ifyou set up another spot, would
you have a better shot at him.
But you know he's coming intothere.
Yeah, you could enter and exitexactly easily, which is really
important.
So you figured no, I'm justgonna stick it out just need the
cars to align and uh, and thenext night I sat it was sunday,
november 3rd I think.
Speaker 4 (36:35):
Um, it was kind of another overcasty day and a lot
of action, like super early itwas.
Like it was like I think it wasdark at 5 30 that night and at
like four o'clock, like the,there was five or six does and
the and the spike horn out atthe apples eating he never
showed.
He, he wasn't there and healways followed that kind of
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that group it seemed like fromthe camera never showed.
Uh, they, they sat around.
Eight came back, came, fedtheir way around up towards the
blind, then went back into thisuh, bushfield.
15 minutes later they came backyet again, but this time I
could tell there was there'ssomething off about them.
Like they, they would, theywould walk a walk a bit, eat,
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stick their head up, look backtowards the, the bush field, you
figured a buck was coming in.
Yeah, I figured there wassomething, something was going
on.
So they fed their way outtowards the apples and it was
like they kept looking uptowards the blind.
They stopped looking at thebush field, kept looking up
towards the blind and kind of myarea.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
You're thinking, is there a buck that's going to
come right in behind me?
Speaker 4 (37:44):
Yeah, that's right.
So I said something's weird.
I didn't know what to think.
I was just watching.
I was watching the same area ofthe bush field he came out to
two nights ago.
I was thinking he was going tocome right back out of there.
I was ready this time I wasn'tgoing to let the opportunity
pass, so he wasn't showing.
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Gonna let the opportunity pass,so it was he wasn't showing.
He wasn't showing.
It was about it's probably likeit was 15 minutes before legal
shooting light.
I had been, I'd been sittingstaring kind of at the left, uh
like at the right of my blindfor so long looking at these
does just feeding up and downthe edge of this bush line.
I was, uh, I had to likereadjust my seat so I I kind of
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sat up this board and there's asqueak in it.
Yeah, looked at the, looked outthe left of my blind and he was
in the buck I shot was standingbroadside, 30 yards from me oh
really, he's that close Ifigured he circled the blind
when he came out of the bushfield.
Yeah and uh, I didn't have.
I didn't have any time to getnervous this time, so I hauled
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my rifle up and I had to.
The blind was kind of in theway of my scope.
So I pulled it up over thescope and he started.
He started kind of trottingtowards the does as soon as I
had it on him and I just saidhey, and he stopped and I
hammered him, he, he kind ofhobbled off.
I was getting ready torechamber another round because
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he was still out in the fieldand he kind of hobbled behind a
patch of trees and I couldn'tsee him anymore.
Before I was able to getanother shot off and I sat and
just kind of listened and waitedand I called Corey and I said I
let a shot go.
I think I hit him pretty good.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
Of course, you better have made it count.
Speaker 4 (39:24):
I think I hammered him, and so I waited a little
bit until it was dark.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
Wait, you never got a chance for another shot.
Speaker 4 (39:33):
No, okay, and the last I seen he hobbled kind of
behind this clump of trees inthe field and so I put my gun in
the case, got out of the blind,I had a pair of binoculars on
me and I walked up the, I gotout the exit and I kind of I got
to a place kind of maybe like100, 200 yards away where I
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could.
It was kind of a high pointwhere I could see actually in
behind this little clump oftrees, and I took out my binos
and I glassed down there and Icould see a white belly laying
on the ground.
So I I called cory and I saidI'm getting out of here.
Anyways, I don't know, uh,we'll, I'll get out of here,
we'll come back, we'll group upand then we'll go.
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We'll go back and see whathappened.
You never know, I guess, if hewas wounded and just laying
there or if he shot the wrongdeer or that's somebody else's
deer.
Yeah, that's right.
So, so I got out of there, gotgot, uh, got resituated, we, uh,
we came back in, walked downand, uh, we tried to find where,
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where I had shot him.
Couldn't find any blood at all,like 30 blood at all, like 30
yards didn't look good cory waskind of he was.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
He said you missed him.
You missed him like he blew it.
Of course, boxing skills.
So that's it.
Speaker 4 (40:50):
You're getting there, we get home so I said well, I
know I've seen him go behindhere and I knew I seen a white
belly laying down, so let's justcreep around this angle and see
if we can see him.
And the white belly was stillthere, so we crept up on him
just to make sure he wasn'tstill alive or anything, and he
was landed.
He was it.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
It was a clean, kill, yeah, good.
Did you end up getting thatdeer scored?
Speaker 4 (41:15):
Yes, I did, yeah, and he was 156 and 7 eighths.
Speaker 1 (41:21):
Hey, that's not bad at all.
Speaker 4 (41:22):
And he had a 3 inch abdonable.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
He was 160 and 1 8th gross 160 and 1 8th gross.
Speaker 4 (41:33):
with the 3 inch he has a split brow time.
He ended up netting 148 and 78ths.
Speaker 1 (41:40):
That's a good buck.
You guys had a great season.
Speaker 2 (41:49):
I can't beat that.
I was just as excited as lukewas.
I mean, I six years pictures ofthis deer and I never laid eyes
on him.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
Yeah, well, I mean you're happy that someone you
knew, especially your brother,got him right.
You know that's nice too,that's just not no offense.
But you know it wasn't justsome random person from out of
town cruising by like, oh,there's a buck with antlers,
drop them right.
You know there's something thatyou had history with and your
brother got them, and you knowit's really good yeah, and the
score doesn't really do his buckjustice, like the mass on this
(42:14):
deer was incredible.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
Yeah, you know.
The first circumferencemeasurement between the six
inches oh really something likethat, just massive wow, yeah, he
was eating well.
Yeah, and nice, right out tothe tips of the tines, you know.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
Yeah, Just a huge yeah.
A hundred dollars of apples aday.
You'd hope he'd have big oldantlers on him right, yep, yeah,
that's right.
Speaker 4 (42:35):
And I guess, in looking back at that story, like
I don't know, in regardsregards to the new rules and new
runs, look like, uh, permissionand stuff like that, like we
needed the permission this yearon this land you need written
permission to hunt onagriculture land.
That's right and we secured thewritten permission early and I
know the farmer or the yeah, the.
The landowner had multipleother people ask and okay, yeah,
(42:59):
they were denied because uh,because he had already signed a
form for someone.
Speaker 2 (43:04):
So I think that has changed the game a little bit.
I've noticed a difference inour area in terms of drive-bys.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
I think it's helped.
I mean those that are going tobreak the law anyways you're not
going to stop them.
They're going to do it.
But I think the big thing withhaving written permission to be
on agriculture land in our areais going to help with the farmer
, saving them in arguments withpeople.
You know, I think it's going tobe a lot of.
It is saving them likesomeone's, like I can hunt where
I want, like well, no, youcan't, because I mean you do get
(43:32):
a bit of that, uh, entitlement.
I guess you could say yeah itwas kind of.
Speaker 4 (43:36):
It was kind of music through our ears when we heard
it, because we uh we don'talways hunt on our own land and
we never hunt without permission, even if it's unpostered or not
.
We've got permission whereverwe go.
So the only one of the majorbattles we always face is random
people showing up to our spotsthat don't have permission.
(43:57):
I guess Not that they needed itin certain locations, but
Ethically, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (44:04):
But I personally found a lot less traffic in our
normal hunting areas yeah, yeahno, it's good.
The only thing I can think ofis uh, reason right, but yeah, I
know, uh, out of my parentsplace.
Speaker 1 (44:15):
I don't hunt there because of all the traffic but
after fencing in the field forthe cows, that helped a bit with
, you know, four strands ofelectric fence with nine and a
half thousand kilovolts per line.
But you know, not everyone cando that, but that helped.
But yeah, ethically everyoneshould be, you know, hopefully
asking permission to wherethey're hunting, but it doesn't
mean everyone will.
But no, boys, that was a goodstory, both of you guys' stories
(44:38):
.
You guys had a great year.
Can't wait for everyone on thepodcast profile picture to see
what you guys got hanging on thewalls now.
That's really good.
I plan on having you guys bothout again.
Corey, you have a lot morehunting stories.
You do too.
Luke, thanks to big brotherCorey, though right Yep.
Speaker 4 (44:57):
I'm lucky if I'm anything.
Speaker 1 (44:59):
Hey, I'll take luck over hard work any day.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
Alright, thanks, boys , thank you.
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