February 17, 2025 • 40 mins
Have you ever imagined your ultimate hunting adventure, free from the limits of budget or geography? Join me, Ken Marr, as we kick off the second season of the Hunts and Outfitting Podcast by exploring our wildest hunting fantasies. Picture this: the sound of hounds echoing through the vast mountains of Montana as we pursue mountain lions—not for the kill, but for the thrill and camaraderie. My friend Logan Elliott shares his own vision, one where childhood memories merge with the grandeur of Southeast British Columbia’s Kootenay Range. There, with bow in hand, he dreams of hunting Rocky Mountain elk on horseback, relishing the tradition and adventure of the wild. Ryan Wesselius shares his dream hunt also which is for elk, but with some different twists on the hunt.
The excitement doesn't stop there. Dalton Patterson dream is Imagine taking to the skies for a helicopter pig hunting adventure in Texas, where the challenge is as physical as it is exhilarating. From unlimited ammo to night hunts for predators, this Texan Hunter Package promises an adrenaline-filled experience that caters to hunters at various fitness levels. We discuss the logistics and thrills of helicopter hunting, emphasizing the camaraderie and unforgettable stories that such adventures create. It's a true taste of Texan wildness, where the heart races as fast as the rotor blades.
Finally, we traverse continents without leaving our chairs, dreaming of Cape Buffalo in Africa, muskox in the Yukon, and the majestic red stag of New Zealand. Our discussions weave through the ethical tapestry of high-fence hunting, the physical demands of mountainous sheep hunts, and the artistry of hunting large game with a bow. We humorously muse about caliber choices and the reckless allure of helicopter hog hunts, celebrating the wild dreams that fuel our passion for the outdoors. Tune in to explore these adventures and more, as we embark on an unforgettable journey through the world of dream hunts.
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
this is hunts and outfitting podcast.
I'm your host and rookie guide,ken marr.
I love everything hunting theoutdoors and all things
associated with it, from storiesto how to's.
You'll find it here.
Welcome to the podcast.
Yes, welcome, and thanks forlistening all of you from
wherever you are in the world.
(00:31):
I'm pretty excited for thispodcast episode, as always, but
this is the first one for seasontwo and it's all about dream
hunts.
I know deep down, all of youguys and gals listening that
hunt have that one dream hunt.
Maybe some of you have beenlucky enough to already do it.
This episode was filmed andwill be on our YouTube page
(00:53):
Hunts on Outfitting Podcast.
Also speaking about YouTube, ifyou have listened to episode 43,
a friend of mine was on, jacobArmstrong.
I had a great chat with him andlater on in the episode, jacob
started to talk about some wildgame cooking and he enjoys doing
it and some of his recipes.
Well, I had a few people afterthat podcast reach out to me and
(01:14):
ask more about Jacob and someof his recipes.
Him and I filmed the firstcooking episode for the YouTube
page.
How to Create Venison Meat MashCountry Boy Steaks is the title
.
It was delicious dish done byhim.
Check it out you might.
It's really easy to do.
He explains it all quite well.
I think you're going to like it.
(01:35):
If you guys want to reach outto me on Facebook, you can hunt
an outfitting or email mehuntsonoutfitting at gmailcom.
Also, speaking about dreams, letme tell you about a dog food
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To quote the great footballmovie of 1993, rudy, dreams are
what makes life tolerable.
Now to kick things off forseason two, which you know, guys
, give yourselves a little slapon the back something.
(02:59):
We have made it to season two.
This is episode number one ofseason two.
We have gone through 52episodes, which everyone
listening, everyone that came onas guests, thank you very much.
I didn't think we'd make ithere.
So to kick things off forseason two, we've decided to do.
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I've got myself and three otherfriends here.
We're going to talk about ourdream hunts.
Our dream hunts, our dreamhunts, you know, are something
that I told the boys.
I said money's no object, don'tworry about anything.
If you could go anywhere in theworld, hunt any animal in the
world, what would it be?
Uh, so we have all chosen right, our dream hunts.
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And, um, well, I'm just gonnago first, because normally I go
last and this time I'm goingfirst.
So this hunt here that I'vechosen, I've got it written down
right as you go.
So my dream hunt if I could goanywhere in the world, hunt
anything would be a mountainlion hunt with hounds.
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Why?
Because, as a houndstombermyself, I just love the sound of
the hounds.
It's not necessarily the thrillof the kill.
I would go.
I would go anywhere in theworld.
I'm not being picky orparticular as to where I would,
but gun to my head.
If I had to choose a place, itwould be Montana.
Why?
Well, mountain lions can behunted in.
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I don't surprise about this toomany places Washington, oregon,
nevada, arizona, utah, idaho,montana, wyoming, colorado, new
Mexico, south Dakota, northDakota, texas and Canada.
We got British Columbia andAlberta.
According to Google, coloradohas the best hunting for trophy
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animals taken, but montana isalso on that list for some of
the best hunting.
Montana is home to an abundantlion population.
So I got thinking around aboutit and, uh, you know montana,
knowing for its big skies andreally great abundant natural
resources, I thought that'swhere I'd like to go.
I'd go anywhere and not evennecessarily to kill a lion, but
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just to tag along.
Every year I go tag along witha friend of mine in Maine and to
tag along to hunt black bearwith hounds, and I don't care to
shoot or anything, just to goalong and be part of it.
And I talked to a guy the othernight from Utah and he's been
hunting lions for over 30 years.
Never shot one.
Just loves to go, loves to gethis hands out.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Is that common to hunt for 30 years and never
shoot one?
Speaker 1 (05:32):
He just likes to go.
My friend Mike in Maine he'snever shot a bear.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Are you saying he's not that good, or what are you
saying no?
Speaker 1 (05:37):
they treat them all the time.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Okay, I'll never get one though.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
So like, so, like you get like Is that normal?
Yeah, he just he just guides,for he got for them.
He just it's like me going outwith the beagles, with after the
rabbit.
Yeah, sometimes I shoot,sometimes I just right, let him
go.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
So he's actually been on a lot of hunts, a lot yeah,
he's got his own, a part of alot of kills, just haven't yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
Yeah, gotcha, that's right.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
See, as my friend Mike, he's been on many, many
bear hunts.
That he's got.
He's got successful ones, allof them, a lot of them,
successful.
He's never shot one.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Really.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Nope, nope, interesting.
Just as a houndsman likes to goalong, that's what I'd like to
do.
So I'd go anywhere in thoseplaces to hunt them.
But if I had so I mean.
Montana is home to an abundantlion population, becoming the
41st state on November 8th 1889,.
It is known for its wide openskies, mountains, abundant big
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game hunting.
Thanks to conversation,conservation efforts.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Thanks to great conversation.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Thanks to conservation efforts and hunters
alike.
With 97 different mountainranges, over 3,000 pristine
lakes and beautiful rivers,including the longest undammed
river in the continental US,montana seems like a place I
have not been to.
I would love to see Logan stopand it'd be great to be able to
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explore that place with anoutfitter and with their hounds
and see after a line, see allthat Montana has to offer.
So their season.
So I was looking this up.
The season in Montana isroughly from December 1st to
April 14th.
Some places I saw March 31stWe'll say December to.
I saw March 31st We'll sayDecember to end of March roughly
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.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
So it's a spring season.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
I guess more of a winter, it's winter.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
That'd be winter, Logan.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
Do you know if there's any reason for that?
Speaker 1 (07:39):
That's what it is, yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
When's our breeding?
Speaker 4 (07:43):
season?
I'm not sure.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
I'm guessing it's later.
I'm guessing it's yeah.
When's our breeding season?
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
I'm not sure.
Is there a rut too?
Speaker 2 (07:48):
I'm guessing it's after April.
Well, that would be when thekittens are older too, so you're
not running fresh kittens too.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Do lions have kittens ?
Is that what a baby lion iscalled?
Yep, it's called kitten.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Yep.
So the best hunting I mean someplaces they don't get any snow,
but the best hunting, from whatI've been looking up and read,
is when you have some snow forthe dogs to get that good scent
and for you to find the tracks.
And then the guides are judgingby the size of the tracks if
it's a big trophy tom or not andworth going after.
Uh, for the prices.
This is why it's a dream hunt.
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From what I saw in montana, theaverage price is about 6800,800
to about $8,800 US.
The gun that I would choose Iwas looking around a lot and I
kind of figured this would work.
So they say that blinds aren'treally that hard to kill.
I'd like to use if I did itwould be a Lever Action 30-30.
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I'd like to just tag along forthe experience of it, but if I
was actually shooting that'swhat I'd use.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
You probably have an experience if you shot a 3030.
What's a big trophy cat?
Speaker 4 (08:50):
So big trophy cat?
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Yeah, One one 50 to one 80.
Yeah, that's.
That's a pretty good size catright there.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
Wow, it's a pretty scary kitty.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Yeah, yeah.
So that's what I'd like to usefor a gun if I was shooting.
It'd be something light tocarry along and then you've got
that rounded bullet.
So that way, when the cat'streed up a tree, you've got the
branches and all that.
The bullet's just going throughthat and it's a bush gun.
Right, you're going to beshooting probably through some
bushes because the line will betreed.
The outfitter I was looking at alot of different outfitters.
(09:21):
They all seem really good, butI decided to use.
If I was going to use one, it'dbe Montana Mountain Lion
Adventures.
They're in Whitehall, Montana.
They started in 2015.
They probably will be doing apodcast later this season on the
show, so that's exciting.
So the guy that runs it, scott.
He's a second-generationoutfitter.
They only take a few clientseach year to ensure a good hunt
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and that your odds of a trophytom are a lot better and higher.
So they're not.
You know, just out shootingeverything.
I've been told from differentpeople that some outfitters do
that, that they yeah, that's awhole other conversation, I
guess.
But some just see every cat asa dollar sign and this outfitter
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here does not.
They want to get big trophytaunts, mature lions, so they're
hunting there.
It's about five full days.
They use trucks side-by-sidesand snowmobiles with custom dog
boxes to help to get as close tothe treed cat as possible.
So I mean they said your daystarts really early.
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They're going to be out driving.
I mean we'll probably have themon the podcast to tell more and
then they're going to find agood size cat track, determined
from that track.
All right, this is good Bigmale Tom that we're going to go
after and then, as soon asdaylight comes up, send the dogs
on on their way and thenhopefully the dogs work their
magic and within could be a day,couple days, few hours, they
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will have that cat treed andthat's when you can make your
decision to shoot it.
Like I said, as a houndstoothmyself, I'd be really excited
just to see the hounds work anddo their thing and that is my
dream hunt of any animal,anywhere, any continent.
If I had to choose, it'd bemountain lion hunting with
hounds.
So I'm Ken Meyer and that's myhunt.
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Who is next?
I want a name and your hunt.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
I guess I'll go next next down the line.
Logan Elliott, been on before.
Do you recognize my voice ornot?
That's okay, my dream hunt,looking into it.
Well, always my dream hunt hasbeen, definitely even since I
was a kid, watching huntingshows.
Growing up was always elk, kindof narrowed it down to Rocky
Mountain elk out in BC.
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Kind of wanted to always kindof want to stay in Canada.
I don't know, I just likeCanadian hunting, grew up
watching a lot of shows aroundcanada, just always the rocky
mountains to me.
Where I found the spot where Iwant to go, southeast beats
southeast bc.
It's um I'm gonna butcher thepronouncing, sorry for anyone's
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out there or their guides outthere it's the kootenai range
that sounds rightk-o-O-O-T-E-N-A-Y area out in
Southeast BC it's basically agiant.
from what I've seen, just agiant belt of mountain ranges,
including the Rockies, just bigrugged country.
I don't know, just the.
I've always thought, justsitting up on a hill, on a side
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hill in BC, on the RockyMountains, like I've only ever
flown over, flown over themmyself, and I still remember
that to this day from when I was11 years old I I remember
flying over them and I can'timagine hunting them and being
in them like sitting up on topon a sunrise and an elk bugle
down in the bottom.
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For me personally, personally,if I went I'd be bow.
Only I'd want an archery huntelk just as close to that big of
a majestic animal as you couldpossibly get.
I don't even know if I'd beable to shoot if one came in,
because I've never personallyseen one in my life so far.
But the the guide I found wasuh sawtooth outfitters, located
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in uh, I think it's kimberly bc,but in that couldn't even
mountain range area, and that'swhere they hunt over 350 000
acres of just pure wildernessand that's what they have to
themselves.
Yeah, based on that and just um,yeah, they're what I'd say like
.
They're around like 22 lakesand 13 different valleys
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anywhere from 3 to 14 miles long.
That basically well like valleyhunting.
From what I've even seen on tv,it seems to be a whole lot of
big bull elk.
I'd like to go.
I'd like, well, the archeryseason, for there seems to be
early September, kind of thefirst of the 10th area, so I'd
like to go for a seven day hunt.
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What's cool about Sawtooth?
What I found too, is you canthe only they have.
A base price of it was around$9,000.
And then in that, elk huntincluded, you can go after
muleys, white tail.
Oh, there was one other.
I'm going to mess it up again.
I think it was wolves.
Actually.
(14:12):
All right, yeah, all you got toadd on is the tag and probably
black bear.
I can't remember if it wasblack bear or wolves.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
It was one of the two .
It seems like it'd be separate,though.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
You usually have to add the tag on, so like if you
shot your elk second day, add atag and just keep going.
And so, and from what I saw onthe website, just, they've been
around for a lot of years andit's been a great outfitter.
A lot of big elk, a lot over300 inch elk, which is well
giant yeah For us out here like900 to 1100 pound elk.
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That's a, that's a moose,that's an Eastern moose for what
we hunt here in.
Brunswick, yeah so.
Yeah, I just couldn't.
So it's basically a you getthere the day before and it's
just a more or less a pack outtrip, like start at the main
lodge and then pack out.
You're not coming back at theend of the day to stay at the
lodge You're going out From whatI understand, like you're going
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out and like what I'd like todo and how I'd saw it, and what
they seem to do is packing onhorses or side-by-sides
depending on where you're going,go up in the mountain ranges,
pack out in tents and thenbasically just start your
morning an hour before, like getout and then bugle in the
morning and just try to get on abig bugle in the morning and
just try to get on a big.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
So you're hunting during the rut because they're
bugling during the rut, I'mguessing.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
Yeah, right, yeah, archery season is, I think, a
little early from what Iunderstand for rut, but as
archery seasons tend to be, yeah, because there's well a lot of
less hunting pressure too, so itmight be easier to find bulls.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
I'm not sure, never been elk hunting Close to moose,
like with the moose, too, here.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
All right, I think the horseback would be really
cool.
Yeah, I think that would reallyadd to the thing.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
If you weren't used to horses, though you're growing
an area.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
What do you think?
Just like I'd love to, justwant to see.
Well, a lot of what they use.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
The horses, for, too, is just carrying your gear.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Especially if you're like if with a hunt, like what
he was talking about there, ifyou're packing up and then
you're just staying out there.
You got tents and food and yougot, you know, your rifle, your
rifle, your probably carryingjust all your packs and stuff
like that.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
They would have it pretty packed down and they'd be
so used to taking it, but likefor me to put 80 pounds on my
back and then throw 5,000 feetelevation at me.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Oh yeah, and then throw 5,000 feet of elevation at
me, oh yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
Like as much as I'd love to say, how much I'd love
to go out there and actuallytest myself, as much as see elk
or do elk.
I'd just like to see how,because I always watch on TV and
it never.
Well, it'd just be theexperience, Well it's like if I
shot a big elk, great, but if Icould even, just what would make
it for me is sitting on theside of a mountain, glassing
bugling, and hear that one bugledown from the bottom of the
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valley.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
That would make the dream hunt.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
That would make the dream hunt pretty well.
I agree with you there, yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
Like just sit, just hearing an elk bugle across a
mountain, even just on a sunrisemorning, hunting them out in
the middle of nowhere.
No sunrise morning hunting themout in the middle of nowhere.
No one else knows where you are.
Just yeah, just one of thosethings I guess is probably
mostly hunters listening to this.
Everyone knows that feeling ofsitting in the woods on a
sunrise and no one else knowsthat you're even there and you
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can just take it all inincluding the landowner, except
the guy in green pants walkingup.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Yeah, no, but that's it.
That's good, logan.
Yeah, I like that, like I saidwith me, with the mantline hunt,
not even the kill, justexperiencing it.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
That's what hunting is.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
Don't get me wrong, I'd love to shoot a big 6x6, 420
hand shell.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Still, you get a lot out of the experience.
Just what you said.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Even if I could just see the Rocky Mountains alone.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
Just to hike the Rocky mountains alone.
Just you'd forget even aboutthe fact you're hunting, I think
, when you're out there, butespecially doing archery too,
like archery for me.
I I'm a big archery, I have anarcher myself, and I think
that'd be just.
If I'm going on a dream huntlike those, I can't see myself
taking a gun, all right.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
No, I can't see myself taking a gun, all right.
No, that's good, that's fairenough.
Dream hunt, ryan.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Yeah, I'll go next.
Uh, Ryan, I'm uh pretty similarto Logan.
I guess I'm around here in NewBrunswick.
We can hunt deer, we can huntmoose, so for me it's always
been.
I guess elk it's you knowmassive set of antlers but more,
I guess, is where you get tohunt.
I'm not too specific in thearea, I guess, like I for me, if
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I could hunt anywhere wherethose elk are, as long as it's
kind of in that mountainousrange, I'd be pretty happy.
But I was looking at two elkoutfitters.
I was looking at a couple or Iguess it was more than two, a
couple that were in BC, but thenI looked at one in Idaho that I
really liked.
It was called Mile HighOutfitters.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
And if we're going real dream hunt here, they had
one hunting package that theyoffered where they would pick
you up from the airport you flyin yeah.
They bring you to their mainlodge where they do most of
their hunts out of, but thenthey have a runway strip there
and they'll fly you then inanother hour.
They said it's about two daysof horseback riding to get to
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this place, like when theyactually have to bring a lot of
stuff in and out, wow.
And then you hunt from thislodge there that they have set
up.
So you'll start your morning.
You're always in the lodgethat's your base camp, yep and
then every morning beforedaylight you'll actually pack
out from there and then you'llstart bugling right about
daylight and then you will huntfrom there.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
And this one's in Idaho.
This is in Idaho.
Okay yeah, because that's oneof the places too, like I said,
I looked at for mountain lionhunting too.
I mean, they've got, it'sunique looking there.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Yeah, and I mean Beautiful looking, that borders
Montana and that borders BC,where Logan was talking about,
so it's all like it's all partof that Rocky Mountain belt.
So you're hunting essentiallythe same.
You'd be hunting the samemountain lion and the same elk
and for me, yeah, the reasonit's a dream hunt it's just not
the kill.
That's a cherry on top.
But I guess it's getting toexperience that kind of country,
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yeah guess it's getting toexperience that kind of country.
Yeah, like just just seeingsomething new packing up,
heading up in the hills,glassing, you know, the hearing
of the bugling would be cool.
But then you get to see a lotof other game there too.
Like they got mule deer, theyget.
You get the chance to see, uh,like mountain lion, you get the
chance to see wolf, you get allthat kind of stuff that's there.
Yeah, uh, it's the same thingwhere, where, if you happen to
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shoot an elk early in your hunt,you have the option for that
other tag if you want something.
But I mean even just the nextcouple of days, just to, if you
shot something, just leavingfrom camp and going out just
exploring would be cool enough.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Well, yeah, yeah, I think they have like decent
fishing too and some of theirlittle river systems and stuff
like that.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Yeah, if you were to get like the fishing permit
there, I'm sure yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Yeah, but just yeah, like you said, just being there
in a new place and being able toexplore it.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
I think it'd be.
Yeah, and in this spot you'recompletely on your own, like
there's no hydro, there's nonothing.
Like you're there, they havepower set up because there's a
camp cook there so, like everynight, when you get back, you
get warm food, they got littlebunkies.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
The guides have their spots, yeah like the camping
part would be nice, like Logansaid, but it would be nice to
come home to come back to likewarm food but you'd want to do
the horseback thing, eh, ryan?
Speaker 2 (21:15):
this place here?
They said I don't horseback anduh, so like you pack all your
trip and yeah, yeah you you takethat just to get where you got
to go, because there's no way oftaking four wheelers or side by
sides.
And if they had those there,it's a pain too, because then
you're lugging in fuel and likewe're none of us.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
I've ridden horse, and I think all of us here have,
but I'm not a horse men andriding them a lot.
Like you'd be sore, yep, you'dbe sore, but on this, this
website they are very strictwhere they say there's a 250
pound limit, all right If youwere over this.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Like you, were not able to go on horseback.
It's too hard on their horsesfor the country that they have
to travel.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Too hard on them, probably too risky.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
Because once you get over that, that's the thing
about a lot of these.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
That's good that they put that.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
A lot of these elk hunts like you watch videos of
elk hunts, especially sheephunts, like nothing about it.
Is luxurious on the body.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
It's very it is demanding.
They have quite a big write-upwhere they say that this is very
physically demanding, yeah, andyou know, if you do your
preparation and you're in goodshape, like that will increase
your odds of having that'sreally good at the outfitter
doing that.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
It's kind of doing their um like I don't know.
You'd say due diligence, duediligence yes because they're
not mixing words, they're notjust trying to grab your money
and bring whoever in.
You know 350 pound louis likethey're telling you like, look,
you've got to be in some goodshape.
No, no, if you are, if you, youknow 350-pound Louie, like
they're telling you.
Like, look, you've got to be insome good shape.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Well, no, if you are, if you, you know, if you're a
heavier set guy, I'm sure theyhave hunts to cater to them
where you can set out on an ATVor a UTV or an Ergo, whatever it
is Like a wheelchair ramp.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
Well, the thing is, you even imagine dropping all of
for a kilometer walk if it wasdead flat.
You'd be sucking for air prettyquick, I bet.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
I wouldn't.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
I'm just taking a guess you would be.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
I'd meet you there.
We'll speak for yourselves,yeah, that air's thinner 5,000
feet elevation.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
Ken's at 4,999 feet elevation.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
I'm a little shorter than the people in this room.
Yeah, that's besides the point.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
I'm also in very good shape.
That's another conversation,isn't it kind?
Speaker 1 (23:17):
of.
Yeah, I'm average, you guys arejust tall.
Yeah, that's the next.
Um, I like that, though.
It's good, that's.
Uh, that's good and that's okaythat you guys chose the same
animal.
Uh, it just makes this a littleless unique.
No, I'm just kidding.
It's good, it's your dream hunt, whatever you want to do, and,
uh, the elk thing, I thinkthat's really cool.
Dalton, yes, what Dream hunt?
Money's no object.
Whatever you want to hunt, theanimal has to be living, not
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extinct or in a zoo or anything.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
Okay, I can't go hunt the Loch Ness Monster.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
No, damn it.
Well, actually, that'd bepretty cool.
I'm out, I'm going home.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Shamu the whale Big flip.
Shamu the whale Bigfoot so.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
I'm Dalton, by the way, so my hunt is way less
elegant and way less majesticbut, I think, way more fun.
All right, let's hear it myhunt.
I am going with the boyshelicopter pig hunting.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Ah, that'd be cool, that'd be pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
They have packages where you can party hunt with
helicopters yeah, and you cantake multiple helicopters with
multiple people.
So can you imagine like acouple of us in each helicopter?
Speaker 1 (24:19):
that would be fun I've seen, though I've been hog
hunting in florida, not from ahelicopter, yep, so is now, is
it mainly a partial to texas,where it is more wide open,
there's less foily I honestlydon't know, I I really don't
hear I?
I don't anyways maybe know, Idon't hear about helicopter
hunts for hogs in other states,really.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
It could be a legality thing too, because I
feel like Texas probably hassome stuff going on that nobody
else does.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Yeah, they usually hunt it over ag land.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
It's usually small batteries, flush them out in the
fields, From what I've watchedon videos.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
So the outfitter is helicopter pig hunting.
That's what they're called.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Hey, that's a good name.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
They're the only full-time helicopter hog hunting
outfitter in Texas.
Wow, so they've got a packagecalled the Texan Hunter Package.
Okay, $4,875, american a personfor a group of four Okay,
that's.
Two hours of helicopter, pighunting, coyote gun run on ranch
(25:21):
Three nights, all-inclusivelodging, unlimited ammo.
Team UTV exotic scavenger hunton ranch.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
I have no idea what that is Is that $4,900 a person
Is that 4,900 a person.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
So for 20 grand, so Team UTV Exotic Scavenger Hunt
on Ranch.
I have no idea what that evenmeans I'm in.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Sounds exotic.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
Yeah, pretty much.
So we're not done yet ProbablyStrangle and Armadillo or
something right, sporting clays.
Two boxes of 25 shells, allright, so go skeet shooting.
While we're there, 100 roundsof rifle shooting.
Also, the last thing, tworounds of .50 cal BMG.
See.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
I've never been to Texas, but it sounds freaking
awesome.
Yeah, and this whole packagethat you're talking about sounds
really Texas.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
Basically it's like five grand to shoot unlimited
guns for three days Just killstuff and shoot guns.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Fly around in helicopters.
Can you imagine?
Speaker 2 (26:26):
That'd be pretty cool .
Yeah, that is really awesome.
Welcome to.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
Texas, we're going to shoot a whole shitload of guns
all guns to sizes.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
We're going to fly around in helicopters and shoot
more guns.
We're going to scavenger huntfor more guns.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
We'll run out of animals.
There's clays to shoot at.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
There's also a $1,200 add-on per shooter.
We're at about $24,800 Now forfour guys.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
This is why it's a dream hunt.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
Predator and hog night hunt, so professionally
guided hunt.
An elevated, custom fabricatedNight hunting rig.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Opportunity to harvest.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
Opportunity to harvest bobcat, gray fox, coyote
, coons and wild pigs.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Sounds good to me.
How could you not have fun Withfour guys doing that harvest
bobcat, gray fox, coyote, coonsand wild pigs.
So whatever you see reallySounds good to me.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Yeah, like, how could you not have fun?
Speaker 4 (27:18):
with four guys doing that right, that's actually
1,200 a person.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
For the add-on for the night hunt.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
So I'm guessing it's night hunt like every night kind
of thing Even if it's one nighthunt, that's still pretty sweet
.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
I don't know.
I'm guessing the night hunt'snot during, not during the day.
I think it's in the dark.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
That'd be a long, two days, helicopter and scavenger
hunting all day.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
That hunt would also be brought to you by Red Bull.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Red Bull and Federal Premium Ammunition.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
But yeah, anyway, that would be my dream hunt.
I like that, just an experiencethat you would never, ever
duplicate here, but the same asyour guys' right, Just a
different.
It's a dream, well?
Speaker 2 (27:56):
they all have kind of the common theme.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
where none of them is we can't afford them no not
that None of them is all focusedon the kill.
It's everyone's experience.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Yeah, like Ken it was the kills.
You know it's cool but it's notnecessary.
Speaker 4 (28:10):
If I'm in a helicopter, I'm killing some
hogs.
Well, with Dalms, yeah, there'sno way to not kill, but I mean
the experience of all of that iswhat you're there for.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
But can you imagine shooting a machine gun out of a
helicopter?
Can you imagine I could just?
Speaker 4 (28:25):
shoot it to the ground and be happy.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Yeah, let alone out of a helicopter.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Shoot it to the next helicopter.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
I'd pay them good money just to take me in a
helicopter and me shoot atfrigging clay pigeons.
Speaker 4 (28:33):
Yeah, Like yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Yeah, just to say that maybe that's just a
Wednesday afternoon for a Texan,but for us.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
it's pretty neat.
For New Brunswickers that'sonce in a lifetime and not even
that yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
But I mean that's why you know it's good to have
dream hunts, because you neverknow.
You never know Because thething I like about this is I
like to ask a lot of hunterslike what's your dream hunt?
And a lot of them.
There's two answers that youshould get.
They either know right off orthey're like you know.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
I've never really thought about that before
because it's honestly quiteunreachable for the average
person.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
I don't know, but some people, like I said, they
know right off or they justdon't know, and I always like to
you know kind of get theirwheels to like you know, what
would you add For?
Speaker 2 (29:13):
me, and why.
I guess too, it's alwaysinteresting to know.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
Like the elk thing would be cool.
But for me, like there's a fewthings that I want to do with
whitetail, first I'd like toaccomplish and then I feel like
I'd be willing to move on tosomething like a bigger
challenge.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
But for me, like I'd like to do a little better with
whitetails and then kind of workmy way to it.
I guess if I had to pick mytrajectory I really like for me
the elk is a dream, but it'salso maybe the most achievable
just by when the season is.
We're really busy through thesummer and then in the fall
we're really busy.
So like the beginning ofSeptember.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
And what is that that you're busy with growing?
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Like dairy farming.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Okay so we're either.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
There's kind of a transition time where we're
finished fourth cut grass andbetween that and starting up
corn silage, and so elk seasonbeing usually the first to like
the first week of Septemberbeing bow season is really
achievable, like that's a kindof a timeframe I can hit, and
then after that when the rifleseason starts, like the early
part of the rifle season isgenerally not too busy for us,
(30:17):
so it makes it at a time of theyear when it's possible, like to
try to do a dream whitetailhunt would be impossible to try
to go in October, November, bigbucks here.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
You're going to get trophy bucks here.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
I would.
I would be, uh, either one,Either one.
I think bow would be cool justto have them that close, but
either one I'd be happy with.
I think for me it's more whenthe time of the year would work,
because bow season for elkgives you that early season in
September when they're hittinglike a pre-rut, but then rifle
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season when it starts moremid-September.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
I can start to get busy.
The bow would add to thechallenge because you guys are
talking like I've been tailedbird and been around elk in
person and they, from myexperience they are really
skittish.
They're in herds.
There's a lot of ears, there'sa lot of eyes, there's a lot of
noses.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
It's like a big flock of Canada geese on the ground.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
And it'd be tricky.
Yeah, it'd be really tricky.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
Yeah, I think I picked elk too, because I think
it's one of the things.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
I think they're a magnificent animal.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
I think it's one of the most obtainable things that
I could actually go do, and if Iwas going to pick one, I think
it's just something I'd want todo.
I should say I'm going to do.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
And you can never have that on the East Coast
either.
No, no, that's the thing, See.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
I was going to say, I was honestly going to say
Alaskan moose, if I had to picksomething big.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
That's a good one, but we can get big moose here,
but your hog one's cool,although you cannot get
Alaskan-sized moose.
No.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
And also it's the experience where you're hunting
them.
We're guys hunting moose in NewBrunswick, but the experience
there is a lot different.
Speaker 4 (31:54):
It looked like a white-tailed deer compared to an
Alaskan moose.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
Yeah, If I had to pick a second one, I mean it's
probably no one went.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
My elk's the size of a moose here.
If I got a big one, no one wentwith it.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Well, no one went with another continent here.
We stayed within North America.
I mean, if I had to pick a Imean, like I said, I'm a
houndstman first and foremostI'd take that hound hunting over
anything.
But if I had to pick somethingelse, you know it'd be- I'd go
to another continent, It'd beAfrica for Cape Buffalo.
That's cool yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
Africa would be neat, I think, once you get into it.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
But I'm not a big world traveler or leopard
hunting with hounds there, whichI think we're going to have
somebody on the podcast.
Yes, I guess it's very wild.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
I bet it is.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Yeah, the leopards are like 10 times more vicious
than a cougar.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
Really.
Yeah, I'd probably go shootlike an onyx.
They use a lot of dogs.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Red stag are pretty incredible hunts too, orcs, I
don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
I just remember Cabela's Big Game Hunter Africa.
Yeah, I remember I learned alot about African hunting from
playing that game.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
I'm not a gamer by any means, but when I was
younger I did have Cabela's.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
African.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Hunter and I learned a lot about it, eland, yes, the
cool thing about Texas is thatyou can hunt, you can check off
a lot of your African big gamehunting from Texas.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
If you want a high fence, yes, it is high fenced, I
am so okay with high fence.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
That doesn't bother me in the least, I think it's
cool.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
I don't think I'd ever hunt high fence.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
It's more like purchasing livestock than it is
hunting.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
It's different.
Some of these high fence placesare like thousands and
thousands of acres.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
And a corn feeder in the middle.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
There's a lot of corn 82 corn I don't think I'd ever
hunt high fence.
I don't think I doesn't Like ifI'm going to go somewhere and
pay to do something I wouldnever hunt high fence.
It'd be a.
You'd get some shooting done.
I'd do it all with a gun too.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
I was talking me and Logan were talking about the elk
hunting thing and we werelooking at one outfitter I don't
even I can't remember the nameof it, and it was.
You could pay to pick the sizeof elk that you wanted.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
Pay per inches but we were talking before.
Speaker 4 (34:07):
Like a 500 inch plus elk is like 25.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
I think a lot of those big high fence white tail
places are like that too.
But we were talking about it,we're like I don't know if I'd
want to prepay for the size ofanimal I want, because then I
already know what I'm going Like.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
I want the hunt, it's different.
I want the chase of what Icould see.
I don't whether it's a smalleror bigger bull.
Speaker 4 (34:22):
If I'm going to hunt high fence whitetails, they're
going to send me eight picturesof these.
Are the deer you could shoot,and I'm like I know I would
assume.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
That is how it is.
It's still a trophy.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
It's still.
Is it?
It's ethical?
Yes, is it cheating?
Speaker 3 (34:37):
Yeah, it is yeah but I can go, we're not going to mix
words cheating, but is it cooland unique?
Speaker 1 (34:41):
Yeah, I'm not knocking it.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
I can go to my pasture and drop a cow, or I
could charge you to do it.
It wouldn't be much, I don'teven think.
Speaker 4 (34:51):
I'd honestly enjoy it .
Speaker 1 (34:52):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (34:54):
I don't know, it's just not for me.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
I've never been in that position.
We're talking.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
We have endless money .
Speaker 1 (34:59):
We're not talking, we all make our salaries If money
was no object for your dreamhunt?
All of us are truck drivers,you'll never achieve your dream
hunt driving a truck.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
Well, maybe you will, I don't know, unless it's
filled with cocaine.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Yeah, that's too much , dalton.
Like I said, if I had to chooseanother, one different
continent, it'd be Cape Buffaloand Africa.
I mean, if you guys had tochoose just right offhand
another spot, doesn't that haveto be another continent?
Your second runner up, you knowrafts in Africa.
All right, that's cool Headshot.
Speaker 4 (35:34):
I always thought muskox would be cool.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Of course don't want to hunt something with a neck
yeah.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
I think actually I'd go muskox.
That's why I hate them.
They have one.
No, no, I'd actually go up withmy buddy in Yukon and go bison
hunting in Whitehorse.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Actually, the bison- hunting would really cool.
The bison hunt is probably mythird pick.
Speaker 4 (35:53):
Yeah, bison anywhere.
Yeah, yeah, I go.
I think I'd still go Yukon.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
Ryan if you had to pick a second one.
It would either be red stag.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Cool In New Zealand.
Yep Nice.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Or it would be.
I guess they're incredible tohear.
Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
They roar, they roar.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
Yeah, so it would be that Could you do one?
Speaker 1 (36:14):
for us, Grant.
Uh no, I don't know how to doit.
It would either be that or it'dbe a similar style.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Like, I think, most of my dream hunt is probably
going to be something likemountainous, like very
physically demanding.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
So sheep hunt, so yeah, it would be something, it
would be something like a sheephunt, something where you're
just it's glassing you know.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
You're basically out in the middle of nowhere.
Speaker 4 (36:38):
Yeah, if I pick bighorn, sheep hunt, I'd
probably take a rifle, probablynot going to do that one.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Yeah, you're not going to bow hunt that one
Whoever's bow hunting.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
those hats off to you .
Speaker 4 (36:45):
Yeah, if you've gone with a bow.
Wow, that's impressive.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
With a rifle.
Is that even a thing, though?
Does anybody actually bow huntyou?
Speaker 2 (36:51):
No, they do, yes, they do People do it, but that
is an awfully tough hunt.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
Yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
It's tough enough for people to wait their whole life
.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
Yeah, if you're going to go once, you're probably not
going to.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
People wait their whole life to get a tag to go
with a rifle and they don't evenhave a chance at seeing, like
getting a shot off of one Daltonsecond one too.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
That's pretty cool.
We had this conversation beforewhat?
Speaker 2 (37:16):
caliber Dalton.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
What is the biggest possible caliber I can shoot?
I don't care, it's a 425.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
No, no, they make bigger than that.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
I don't care if my collarbone is sticking out of my
back 516, nitro no 520.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
They they make a 500-something nitro.
Okay, One of those doublebarrel, I do believe Like blow
my collarbone right through myback.
Yeah, no, don't worry, it'll doit.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
I'm just going to that hunt.
You have to be 250 pounds plus.
I got to gain weight again.
On that one there's a minimumof 250.
Yeah, exactly, just to fire therifle and much.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
You can use the gun for it.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
Yeah, when they say, how much gun do you want, I'm
going to say all of it.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
Well, with an elephant it's like anything.
I think its shot placement isone.
Speaker 4 (38:01):
That's why I need a big gun.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (38:04):
I think caliber.
Yeah, I don't think.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
Yeah, my 6.5 is not One of the biggest land mammals
on the Earth.
Yeah, 30- it's not yeah no, ifthe shot placement and caliber
yeah, yeah, definitely somecaliber with it that's a cool
one yeah.
I saw a deal on facebookcom.
There seems to be a theme herewith me, doesn't there?
Speaker 3 (38:21):
I'm really reckless in my dream house no, that's
cool, you guys are like oh, Iwant to watch the sun come up on
the the rocky mountains and I'mliving today or tomorrow
Nothing living I want everythingdead.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
I'm not even wearing my seatbelt, and a helicopter
hog hunt.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
Don's not strapped in at all.
I'm shooting at the otherhelicopter.
Speaker 4 (38:40):
Recoils the only thing holding me in Don's like I
need a gun option that has morebullets in and I can shoot
faster.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
What do you have?
Speaker 4 (38:48):
This bolt action is too slow when I miss.
Speaker 3 (38:50):
Yeah, there's going to be some wild stuff.
I get my way.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
Those are good, you know, and I like that.
That's what dreams are made ofand dreams are, you know, what
makes life worth living.
You just never know what isgoing to happen, what you could
accomplish, and it's interesting.
I always love to hear people'sdream hunts.
Like I said, it tells a bitabout the person and I like it.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
And I like it, yeah it makes you look a little
reckless, and I like it too,because people.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
They just kind of smile when I ask them sometimes
and they're like some of them,they already have it in mind and
they never thought of it.
But it's cool to think ofbecause you just never know
what's possible.
Speaker 4 (39:28):
You said you're going to take all of us when you
finally win a bingo at theLegion.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
Eh yeah, because I don't play bingo too much, a
little bit, and I'll tell youJoyce on the cards there she's
cheating.
I know she is.
No, I don't play bingo A littlebit what Joyce isn't playing.
But all right, boys, thanks forcoming on.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
Great conversation, as you would say.
I hope you guys listening havethought about you.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
Thought about you know what your dream hunt is and
maybe this resonates with you alittle bit and maybe you can
achieve it.
And you've got a great storyand you'd like to talk to us and
come on the podcast about it.
We'd love to hear it.
Until next time, see ya.
this is hunts and outfitting podcast.
I'm your host and rookie guide,ken marr.
I love everything hunting theoutdoors and all things
associated with it, from storiesto how to's.
You'll find it here.
Welcome to the podcast.
Yes, welcome, and thanks forlistening all of you from
wherever you are in the world.
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I'm pretty excited for thispodcast episode, as always, but
this is the first one for seasontwo and it's all about dream
hunts.
I know deep down, all of youguys and gals listening that
hunt have that one dream hunt.
Maybe some of you have beenlucky enough to already do it.
This episode was filmed andwill be on our YouTube page
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Hunts on Outfitting Podcast.
Also speaking about YouTube, ifyou have listened to episode 43,
a friend of mine was on, jacobArmstrong.
I had a great chat with him andlater on in the episode, jacob
started to talk about some wildgame cooking and he enjoys doing
it and some of his recipes.
Well, I had a few people afterthat podcast reach out to me and
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ask more about Jacob and someof his recipes.
Him and I filmed the firstcooking episode for the YouTube
page.
How to Create Venison Meat MashCountry Boy Steaks is the title
.
It was delicious dish done byhim.
Check it out you might.
It's really easy to do.
He explains it all quite well.
I think you're going to like it.
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To quote the great footballmovie of 1993, rudy, dreams are
what makes life tolerable.
Now to kick things off forseason two, which you know, guys
, give yourselves a little slapon the back something.
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We have made it to season two.
This is episode number one ofseason two.
We have gone through 52episodes, which everyone
listening, everyone that came onas guests, thank you very much.
I didn't think we'd make ithere.
So to kick things off forseason two, we've decided to do.
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I've got myself and three otherfriends here.
We're going to talk about ourdream hunts.
Our dream hunts, our dreamhunts, you know, are something
that I told the boys.
I said money's no object, don'tworry about anything.
If you could go anywhere in theworld, hunt any animal in the
world, what would it be?
Uh, so we have all chosen right, our dream hunts.
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And, um, well, I'm just gonnago first, because normally I go
last and this time I'm goingfirst.
So this hunt here that I'vechosen, I've got it written down
right as you go.
So my dream hunt if I could goanywhere in the world, hunt
anything would be a mountainlion hunt with hounds.
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Why?
Because, as a houndstombermyself, I just love the sound of
the hounds.
It's not necessarily the thrillof the kill.
I would go.
I would go anywhere in theworld.
I'm not being picky orparticular as to where I would,
but gun to my head.
If I had to choose a place, itwould be Montana.
Why?
Well, mountain lions can behunted in.
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I don't surprise about this toomany places Washington, oregon,
nevada, arizona, utah, idaho,montana, wyoming, colorado, new
Mexico, south Dakota, northDakota, texas and Canada.
We got British Columbia andAlberta.
According to Google, coloradohas the best hunting for trophy
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animals taken, but montana isalso on that list for some of
the best hunting.
Montana is home to an abundantlion population.
So I got thinking around aboutit and, uh, you know montana,
knowing for its big skies andreally great abundant natural
resources, I thought that'swhere I'd like to go.
I'd go anywhere and not evennecessarily to kill a lion, but
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just to tag along.
Every year I go tag along witha friend of mine in Maine and to
tag along to hunt black bearwith hounds, and I don't care to
shoot or anything, just to goalong and be part of it.
And I talked to a guy the othernight from Utah and he's been
hunting lions for over 30 years.
Never shot one.
Just loves to go, loves to gethis hands out.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Is that common to hunt for 30 years and never
shoot one?
Speaker 1 (05:32):
He just likes to go.
My friend Mike in Maine he'snever shot a bear.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Are you saying he's not that good, or what are you
saying no?
Speaker 1 (05:37):
they treat them all the time.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Okay, I'll never get one though.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
So like, so, like you get like Is that normal?
Yeah, he just he just guides,for he got for them.
He just it's like me going outwith the beagles, with after the
rabbit.
Yeah, sometimes I shoot,sometimes I just right, let him
go.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
So he's actually been on a lot of hunts, a lot yeah,
he's got his own, a part of alot of kills, just haven't yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
Yeah, gotcha, that's right.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
See, as my friend Mike, he's been on many, many
bear hunts.
That he's got.
He's got successful ones, allof them, a lot of them,
successful.
He's never shot one.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Really.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Nope, nope, interesting.
Just as a houndsman likes to goalong, that's what I'd like to
do.
So I'd go anywhere in thoseplaces to hunt them.
But if I had so I mean.
Montana is home to an abundantlion population, becoming the
41st state on November 8th 1889,.
It is known for its wide openskies, mountains, abundant big
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game hunting.
Thanks to conversation,conservation efforts.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Thanks to great conversation.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Thanks to conservation efforts and hunters
alike.
With 97 different mountainranges, over 3,000 pristine
lakes and beautiful rivers,including the longest undammed
river in the continental US,montana seems like a place I
have not been to.
I would love to see Logan stopand it'd be great to be able to
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explore that place with anoutfitter and with their hounds
and see after a line, see allthat Montana has to offer.
So their season.
So I was looking this up.
The season in Montana isroughly from December 1st to
April 14th.
Some places I saw March 31stWe'll say December to.
I saw March 31st We'll sayDecember to end of March roughly
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.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
So it's a spring season.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
I guess more of a winter, it's winter.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
That'd be winter, Logan.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
Do you know if there's any reason for that?
Speaker 1 (07:39):
That's what it is, yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
When's our breeding?
Speaker 4 (07:43):
season?
I'm not sure.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
I'm guessing it's later.
I'm guessing it's yeah.
When's our breeding season?
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
I'm not sure.
Is there a rut too?
Speaker 2 (07:48):
I'm guessing it's after April.
Well, that would be when thekittens are older too, so you're
not running fresh kittens too.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Do lions have kittens ?
Is that what a baby lion iscalled?
Yep, it's called kitten.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Yep.
So the best hunting I mean someplaces they don't get any snow,
but the best hunting, from whatI've been looking up and read,
is when you have some snow forthe dogs to get that good scent
and for you to find the tracks.
And then the guides are judgingby the size of the tracks if
it's a big trophy tom or not andworth going after.
Uh, for the prices.
This is why it's a dream hunt.
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From what I saw in montana, theaverage price is about 6800,800
to about $8,800 US.
The gun that I would choose Iwas looking around a lot and I
kind of figured this would work.
So they say that blinds aren'treally that hard to kill.
I'd like to use if I did itwould be a Lever Action 30-30.
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I'd like to just tag along forthe experience of it, but if I
was actually shooting that'swhat I'd use.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
You probably have an experience if you shot a 3030.
What's a big trophy cat?
Speaker 4 (08:50):
So big trophy cat?
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Yeah, One one 50 to one 80.
Yeah, that's.
That's a pretty good size catright there.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
Wow, it's a pretty scary kitty.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Yeah, yeah.
So that's what I'd like to usefor a gun if I was shooting.
It'd be something light tocarry along and then you've got
that rounded bullet.
So that way, when the cat'streed up a tree, you've got the
branches and all that.
The bullet's just going throughthat and it's a bush gun.
Right, you're going to beshooting probably through some
bushes because the line will betreed.
The outfitter I was looking at alot of different outfitters.
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They all seem really good, butI decided to use.
If I was going to use one, it'dbe Montana Mountain Lion
Adventures.
They're in Whitehall, Montana.
They started in 2015.
They probably will be doing apodcast later this season on the
show, so that's exciting.
So the guy that runs it, scott.
He's a second-generationoutfitter.
They only take a few clientseach year to ensure a good hunt
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and that your odds of a trophytom are a lot better and higher.
So they're not.
You know, just out shootingeverything.
I've been told from differentpeople that some outfitters do
that, that they yeah, that's awhole other conversation, I
guess.
But some just see every cat asa dollar sign and this outfitter
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here does not.
They want to get big trophytaunts, mature lions, so they're
hunting there.
It's about five full days.
They use trucks side-by-sidesand snowmobiles with custom dog
boxes to help to get as close tothe treed cat as possible.
So I mean they said your daystarts really early.
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They're going to be out driving.
I mean we'll probably have themon the podcast to tell more and
then they're going to find agood size cat track, determined
from that track.
All right, this is good Bigmale Tom that we're going to go
after and then, as soon asdaylight comes up, send the dogs
on on their way and thenhopefully the dogs work their
magic and within could be a day,couple days, few hours, they
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will have that cat treed andthat's when you can make your
decision to shoot it.
Like I said, as a houndstoothmyself, I'd be really excited
just to see the hounds work anddo their thing and that is my
dream hunt of any animal,anywhere, any continent.
If I had to choose, it'd bemountain lion hunting with
hounds.
So I'm Ken Meyer and that's myhunt.
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Who is next?
I want a name and your hunt.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
I guess I'll go next next down the line.
Logan Elliott, been on before.
Do you recognize my voice ornot?
That's okay, my dream hunt,looking into it.
Well, always my dream hunt hasbeen, definitely even since I
was a kid, watching huntingshows.
Growing up was always elk, kindof narrowed it down to Rocky
Mountain elk out in BC.
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Kind of wanted to always kindof want to stay in Canada.
I don't know, I just likeCanadian hunting, grew up
watching a lot of shows aroundcanada, just always the rocky
mountains to me.
Where I found the spot where Iwant to go, southeast beats
southeast bc.
It's um I'm gonna butcher thepronouncing, sorry for anyone's
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out there or their guides outthere it's the kootenai range
that sounds rightk-o-O-O-T-E-N-A-Y area out in
Southeast BC it's basically agiant.
from what I've seen, just agiant belt of mountain ranges,
including the Rockies, just bigrugged country.
I don't know, just the.
I've always thought, justsitting up on a hill, on a side
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hill in BC, on the RockyMountains, like I've only ever
flown over, flown over themmyself, and I still remember
that to this day from when I was11 years old I I remember
flying over them and I can'timagine hunting them and being
in them like sitting up on topon a sunrise and an elk bugle
down in the bottom.
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For me personally, personally,if I went I'd be bow.
Only I'd want an archery huntelk just as close to that big of
a majestic animal as you couldpossibly get.
I don't even know if I'd beable to shoot if one came in,
because I've never personallyseen one in my life so far.
But the the guide I found wasuh sawtooth outfitters, located
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in uh, I think it's kimberly bc,but in that couldn't even
mountain range area, and that'swhere they hunt over 350 000
acres of just pure wildernessand that's what they have to
themselves.
Yeah, based on that and just um,yeah, they're what I'd say like
.
They're around like 22 lakesand 13 different valleys
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anywhere from 3 to 14 miles long.
That basically well like valleyhunting.
From what I've even seen on tv,it seems to be a whole lot of
big bull elk.
I'd like to go.
I'd like, well, the archeryseason, for there seems to be
early September, kind of thefirst of the 10th area, so I'd
like to go for a seven day hunt.
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What's cool about Sawtooth?
What I found too, is you canthe only they have.
A base price of it was around$9,000.
And then in that, elk huntincluded, you can go after
muleys, white tail.
Oh, there was one other.
I'm going to mess it up again.
I think it was wolves.
Actually.
(14:12):
All right, yeah, all you got toadd on is the tag and probably
black bear.
I can't remember if it wasblack bear or wolves.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
It was one of the two .
It seems like it'd be separate,though.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
You usually have to add the tag on, so like if you
shot your elk second day, add atag and just keep going.
And so, and from what I saw onthe website, just, they've been
around for a lot of years andit's been a great outfitter.
A lot of big elk, a lot over300 inch elk, which is well
giant yeah For us out here like900 to 1100 pound elk.
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That's a, that's a moose,that's an Eastern moose for what
we hunt here in.
Brunswick, yeah so.
Yeah, I just couldn't.
So it's basically a you getthere the day before and it's
just a more or less a pack outtrip, like start at the main
lodge and then pack out.
You're not coming back at theend of the day to stay at the
lodge You're going out From whatI understand, like you're going
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out and like what I'd like todo and how I'd saw it, and what
they seem to do is packing onhorses or side-by-sides
depending on where you're going,go up in the mountain ranges,
pack out in tents and thenbasically just start your
morning an hour before, like getout and then bugle in the
morning and just try to get on abig bugle in the morning and
just try to get on a big.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
So you're hunting during the rut because they're
bugling during the rut, I'mguessing.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
Yeah, right, yeah, archery season is, I think, a
little early from what Iunderstand for rut, but as
archery seasons tend to be, yeah, because there's well a lot of
less hunting pressure too, so itmight be easier to find bulls.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
I'm not sure, never been elk hunting Close to moose,
like with the moose, too, here.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
All right, I think the horseback would be really
cool.
Yeah, I think that would reallyadd to the thing.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
If you weren't used to horses, though you're growing
an area.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
What do you think?
Just like I'd love to, justwant to see.
Well, a lot of what they use.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
The horses, for, too, is just carrying your gear.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Especially if you're like if with a hunt, like what
he was talking about there, ifyou're packing up and then
you're just staying out there.
You got tents and food and yougot, you know, your rifle, your
rifle, your probably carryingjust all your packs and stuff
like that.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
They would have it pretty packed down and they'd be
so used to taking it, but likefor me to put 80 pounds on my
back and then throw 5,000 feetelevation at me.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Oh yeah, and then throw 5,000 feet of elevation at
me, oh yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
Like as much as I'd love to say, how much I'd love
to go out there and actuallytest myself, as much as see elk
or do elk.
I'd just like to see how,because I always watch on TV and
it never.
Well, it'd just be theexperience, Well it's like if I
shot a big elk, great, but if Icould even, just what would make
it for me is sitting on theside of a mountain, glassing
bugling, and hear that one bugledown from the bottom of the
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valley.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
That would make the dream hunt.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
That would make the dream hunt pretty well.
I agree with you there, yeah.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
Like just sit, just hearing an elk bugle across a
mountain, even just on a sunrisemorning, hunting them out in
the middle of nowhere.
No sunrise morning hunting themout in the middle of nowhere.
No one else knows where you are.
Just yeah, just one of thosethings I guess is probably
mostly hunters listening to this.
Everyone knows that feeling ofsitting in the woods on a
sunrise and no one else knowsthat you're even there and you
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can just take it all inincluding the landowner, except
the guy in green pants walkingup.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Yeah, no, but that's it.
That's good, logan.
Yeah, I like that, like I saidwith me, with the mantline hunt,
not even the kill, justexperiencing it.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
That's what hunting is.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
Don't get me wrong, I'd love to shoot a big 6x6, 420
hand shell.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Still, you get a lot out of the experience.
Just what you said.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Even if I could just see the Rocky Mountains alone.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
Just to hike the Rocky mountains alone.
Just you'd forget even aboutthe fact you're hunting, I think
, when you're out there, butespecially doing archery too,
like archery for me.
I I'm a big archery, I have anarcher myself, and I think
that'd be just.
If I'm going on a dream huntlike those, I can't see myself
taking a gun, all right.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
No, I can't see myself taking a gun, all right.
No, that's good, that's fairenough.
Dream hunt, ryan.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Yeah, I'll go next.
Uh, Ryan, I'm uh pretty similarto Logan.
I guess I'm around here in NewBrunswick.
We can hunt deer, we can huntmoose, so for me it's always
been.
I guess elk it's you knowmassive set of antlers but more,
I guess, is where you get tohunt.
I'm not too specific in thearea, I guess, like I for me, if
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I could hunt anywhere wherethose elk are, as long as it's
kind of in that mountainousrange, I'd be pretty happy.
But I was looking at two elkoutfitters.
I was looking at a couple or Iguess it was more than two, a
couple that were in BC, but thenI looked at one in Idaho that I
really liked.
It was called Mile HighOutfitters.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
And if we're going real dream hunt here, they had
one hunting package that theyoffered where they would pick
you up from the airport you flyin yeah.
They bring you to their mainlodge where they do most of
their hunts out of, but thenthey have a runway strip there
and they'll fly you then inanother hour.
They said it's about two daysof horseback riding to get to
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this place, like when theyactually have to bring a lot of
stuff in and out, wow.
And then you hunt from thislodge there that they have set
up.
So you'll start your morning.
You're always in the lodgethat's your base camp, yep and
then every morning beforedaylight you'll actually pack
out from there and then you'llstart bugling right about
daylight and then you will huntfrom there.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
And this one's in Idaho.
This is in Idaho.
Okay yeah, because that's oneof the places too, like I said,
I looked at for mountain lionhunting too.
I mean, they've got, it'sunique looking there.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Yeah, and I mean Beautiful looking, that borders
Montana and that borders BC,where Logan was talking about,
so it's all like it's all partof that Rocky Mountain belt.
So you're hunting essentiallythe same.
You'd be hunting the samemountain lion and the same elk
and for me, yeah, the reasonit's a dream hunt it's just not
the kill.
That's a cherry on top.
But I guess it's getting toexperience that kind of country,
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yeah guess it's getting toexperience that kind of country.
Yeah, like just just seeingsomething new packing up,
heading up in the hills,glassing, you know, the hearing
of the bugling would be cool.
But then you get to see a lotof other game there too.
Like they got mule deer, theyget.
You get the chance to see, uh,like mountain lion, you get the
chance to see wolf, you get allthat kind of stuff that's there.
Yeah, uh, it's the same thingwhere, where, if you happen to
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shoot an elk early in your hunt,you have the option for that
other tag if you want something.
But I mean even just the nextcouple of days, just to, if you
shot something, just leavingfrom camp and going out just
exploring would be cool enough.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Well, yeah, yeah, I think they have like decent
fishing too and some of theirlittle river systems and stuff
like that.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Yeah, if you were to get like the fishing permit
there, I'm sure yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Yeah, but just yeah, like you said, just being there
in a new place and being able toexplore it.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
I think it'd be.
Yeah, and in this spot you'recompletely on your own, like
there's no hydro, there's nonothing.
Like you're there, they havepower set up because there's a
camp cook there so, like everynight, when you get back, you
get warm food, they got littlebunkies.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
The guides have their spots, yeah like the camping
part would be nice, like Logansaid, but it would be nice to
come home to come back to likewarm food but you'd want to do
the horseback thing, eh, ryan?
Speaker 2 (21:15):
this place here?
They said I don't horseback anduh, so like you pack all your
trip and yeah, yeah you you takethat just to get where you got
to go, because there's no way oftaking four wheelers or side by
sides.
And if they had those there,it's a pain too, because then
you're lugging in fuel and likewe're none of us.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
I've ridden horse, and I think all of us here have,
but I'm not a horse men andriding them a lot.
Like you'd be sore, yep, you'dbe sore, but on this, this
website they are very strictwhere they say there's a 250
pound limit, all right If youwere over this.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Like you, were not able to go on horseback.
It's too hard on their horsesfor the country that they have
to travel.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Too hard on them, probably too risky.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
Because once you get over that, that's the thing
about a lot of these.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
That's good that they put that.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
A lot of these elk hunts like you watch videos of
elk hunts, especially sheephunts, like nothing about it.
Is luxurious on the body.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
It's very it is demanding.
They have quite a big write-upwhere they say that this is very
physically demanding, yeah, andyou know, if you do your
preparation and you're in goodshape, like that will increase
your odds of having that'sreally good at the outfitter
doing that.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
It's kind of doing their um like I don't know.
You'd say due diligence, duediligence yes because they're
not mixing words, they're notjust trying to grab your money
and bring whoever in.
You know 350 pound louis likethey're telling you like, look,
you've got to be in some goodshape.
No, no, if you are, if you, youknow 350-pound Louie, like
they're telling you.
Like, look, you've got to be insome good shape.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Well, no, if you are, if you, you know, if you're a
heavier set guy, I'm sure theyhave hunts to cater to them
where you can set out on an ATVor a UTV or an Ergo, whatever it
is Like a wheelchair ramp.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
Well, the thing is, you even imagine dropping all of
for a kilometer walk if it wasdead flat.
You'd be sucking for air prettyquick, I bet.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
I wouldn't.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
I'm just taking a guess you would be.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
I'd meet you there.
We'll speak for yourselves,yeah, that air's thinner 5,000
feet elevation.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
Ken's at 4,999 feet elevation.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
I'm a little shorter than the people in this room.
Yeah, that's besides the point.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
I'm also in very good shape.
That's another conversation,isn't it kind?
Speaker 1 (23:17):
of.
Yeah, I'm average, you guys arejust tall.
Yeah, that's the next.
Um, I like that, though.
It's good, that's.
Uh, that's good and that's okaythat you guys chose the same
animal.
Uh, it just makes this a littleless unique.
No, I'm just kidding.
It's good, it's your dream hunt, whatever you want to do, and,
uh, the elk thing, I thinkthat's really cool.
Dalton, yes, what Dream hunt?
Money's no object.
Whatever you want to hunt, theanimal has to be living, not
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extinct or in a zoo or anything.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
Okay, I can't go hunt the Loch Ness Monster.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
No, damn it.
Well, actually, that'd bepretty cool.
I'm out, I'm going home.
Speaker 2 (23:49):
Shamu the whale Big flip.
Shamu the whale Bigfoot so.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
I'm Dalton, by the way, so my hunt is way less
elegant and way less majesticbut, I think, way more fun.
All right, let's hear it myhunt.
I am going with the boyshelicopter pig hunting.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Ah, that'd be cool, that'd be pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
They have packages where you can party hunt with
helicopters yeah, and you cantake multiple helicopters with
multiple people.
So can you imagine like acouple of us in each helicopter?
Speaker 1 (24:19):
that would be fun I've seen, though I've been hog
hunting in florida, not from ahelicopter, yep, so is now, is
it mainly a partial to texas,where it is more wide open,
there's less foily I honestlydon't know, I I really don't
hear I?
I don't anyways maybe know, Idon't hear about helicopter
hunts for hogs in other states,really.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
It could be a legality thing too, because I
feel like Texas probably hassome stuff going on that nobody
else does.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Yeah, they usually hunt it over ag land.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
It's usually small batteries, flush them out in the
fields, From what I've watchedon videos.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
So the outfitter is helicopter pig hunting.
That's what they're called.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Hey, that's a good name.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
They're the only full-time helicopter hog hunting
outfitter in Texas.
Wow, so they've got a packagecalled the Texan Hunter Package.
Okay, $4,875, american a personfor a group of four Okay,
that's.
Two hours of helicopter, pighunting, coyote gun run on ranch
(25:21):
Three nights, all-inclusivelodging, unlimited ammo.
Team UTV exotic scavenger hunton ranch.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
I have no idea what that is Is that $4,900 a person
Is that 4,900 a person.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
So for 20 grand, so Team UTV Exotic Scavenger Hunt
on Ranch.
I have no idea what that evenmeans I'm in.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Sounds exotic.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
Yeah, pretty much.
So we're not done yet ProbablyStrangle and Armadillo or
something right, sporting clays.
Two boxes of 25 shells, allright, so go skeet shooting.
While we're there, 100 roundsof rifle shooting.
Also, the last thing, tworounds of .50 cal BMG.
See.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
I've never been to Texas, but it sounds freaking
awesome.
Yeah, and this whole packagethat you're talking about sounds
really Texas.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
Basically it's like five grand to shoot unlimited
guns for three days Just killstuff and shoot guns.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Fly around in helicopters.
Can you imagine?
Speaker 2 (26:26):
That'd be pretty cool .
Yeah, that is really awesome.
Welcome to.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
Texas, we're going to shoot a whole shitload of guns
all guns to sizes.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
We're going to fly around in helicopters and shoot
more guns.
We're going to scavenger huntfor more guns.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
We'll run out of animals.
There's clays to shoot at.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
There's also a $1,200 add-on per shooter.
We're at about $24,800 Now forfour guys.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
This is why it's a dream hunt.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
Predator and hog night hunt, so professionally
guided hunt.
An elevated, custom fabricatedNight hunting rig.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Opportunity to harvest.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
Opportunity to harvest bobcat, gray fox, coyote
, coons and wild pigs.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Sounds good to me.
How could you not have fun Withfour guys doing that harvest
bobcat, gray fox, coyote, coonsand wild pigs.
So whatever you see reallySounds good to me.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Yeah, like, how could you not have fun?
Speaker 4 (27:18):
with four guys doing that right, that's actually
1,200 a person.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
For the add-on for the night hunt.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
So I'm guessing it's night hunt like every night kind
of thing Even if it's one nighthunt, that's still pretty sweet
.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
I don't know.
I'm guessing the night hunt'snot during, not during the day.
I think it's in the dark.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
That'd be a long, two days, helicopter and scavenger
hunting all day.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
That hunt would also be brought to you by Red Bull.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Red Bull and Federal Premium Ammunition.
Speaker 3 (27:45):
But yeah, anyway, that would be my dream hunt.
I like that, just an experiencethat you would never, ever
duplicate here, but the same asyour guys' right, Just a
different.
It's a dream, well?
Speaker 2 (27:56):
they all have kind of the common theme.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
where none of them is we can't afford them no not
that None of them is all focusedon the kill.
It's everyone's experience.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Yeah, like Ken it was the kills.
You know it's cool but it's notnecessary.
Speaker 4 (28:10):
If I'm in a helicopter, I'm killing some
hogs.
Well, with Dalms, yeah, there'sno way to not kill, but I mean
the experience of all of that iswhat you're there for.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
But can you imagine shooting a machine gun out of a
helicopter?
Can you imagine I could just?
Speaker 4 (28:25):
shoot it to the ground and be happy.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Yeah, let alone out of a helicopter.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Shoot it to the next helicopter.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
I'd pay them good money just to take me in a
helicopter and me shoot atfrigging clay pigeons.
Speaker 4 (28:33):
Yeah, Like yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Yeah, just to say that maybe that's just a
Wednesday afternoon for a Texan,but for us.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
it's pretty neat.
For New Brunswickers that'sonce in a lifetime and not even
that yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
But I mean that's why you know it's good to have
dream hunts, because you neverknow.
You never know Because thething I like about this is I
like to ask a lot of hunterslike what's your dream hunt?
And a lot of them.
There's two answers that youshould get.
They either know right off orthey're like you know.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
I've never really thought about that before
because it's honestly quiteunreachable for the average
person.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
I don't know, but some people, like I said, they
know right off or they justdon't know, and I always like to
you know kind of get theirwheels to like you know, what
would you add For?
Speaker 2 (29:13):
me, and why.
I guess too, it's alwaysinteresting to know.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
Like the elk thing would be cool.
But for me, like there's a fewthings that I want to do with
whitetail, first I'd like toaccomplish and then I feel like
I'd be willing to move on tosomething like a bigger
challenge.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
But for me, like I'd like to do a little better with
whitetails and then kind of workmy way to it.
I guess if I had to pick mytrajectory I really like for me
the elk is a dream, but it'salso maybe the most achievable
just by when the season is.
We're really busy through thesummer and then in the fall
we're really busy.
So like the beginning ofSeptember.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
And what is that that you're busy with growing?
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Like dairy farming.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Okay so we're either.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
There's kind of a transition time where we're
finished fourth cut grass andbetween that and starting up
corn silage, and so elk seasonbeing usually the first to like
the first week of Septemberbeing bow season is really
achievable, like that's a kindof a timeframe I can hit, and
then after that when the rifleseason starts, like the early
part of the rifle season isgenerally not too busy for us,
(30:17):
so it makes it at a time of theyear when it's possible, like to
try to do a dream whitetailhunt would be impossible to try
to go in October, November, bigbucks here.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
You're going to get trophy bucks here.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
I would.
I would be, uh, either one,Either one.
I think bow would be cool justto have them that close, but
either one I'd be happy with.
I think for me it's more whenthe time of the year would work,
because bow season for elkgives you that early season in
September when they're hittinglike a pre-rut, but then rifle
(30:49):
season when it starts moremid-September.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
I can start to get busy.
The bow would add to thechallenge because you guys are
talking like I've been tailedbird and been around elk in
person and they, from myexperience they are really
skittish.
They're in herds.
There's a lot of ears, there'sa lot of eyes, there's a lot of
noses.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
It's like a big flock of Canada geese on the ground.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
And it'd be tricky.
Yeah, it'd be really tricky.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
Yeah, I think I picked elk too, because I think
it's one of the things.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
I think they're a magnificent animal.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
I think it's one of the most obtainable things that
I could actually go do, and if Iwas going to pick one, I think
it's just something I'd want todo.
I should say I'm going to do.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
And you can never have that on the East Coast
either.
No, no, that's the thing, See.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
I was going to say, I was honestly going to say
Alaskan moose, if I had to picksomething big.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
That's a good one, but we can get big moose here,
but your hog one's cool,although you cannot get
Alaskan-sized moose.
No.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
And also it's the experience where you're hunting
them.
We're guys hunting moose in NewBrunswick, but the experience
there is a lot different.
Speaker 4 (31:54):
It looked like a white-tailed deer compared to an
Alaskan moose.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
Yeah, If I had to pick a second one, I mean it's
probably no one went.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
My elk's the size of a moose here.
If I got a big one, no one wentwith it.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Well, no one went with another continent here.
We stayed within North America.
I mean, if I had to pick a Imean, like I said, I'm a
houndstman first and foremostI'd take that hound hunting over
anything.
But if I had to pick somethingelse, you know it'd be- I'd go
to another continent, It'd beAfrica for Cape Buffalo.
That's cool yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
Africa would be neat, I think, once you get into it.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
But I'm not a big world traveler or leopard
hunting with hounds there, whichI think we're going to have
somebody on the podcast.
Yes, I guess it's very wild.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
I bet it is.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Yeah, the leopards are like 10 times more vicious
than a cougar.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
Really.
Yeah, I'd probably go shootlike an onyx.
They use a lot of dogs.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
Red stag are pretty incredible hunts too, orcs, I
don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
I just remember Cabela's Big Game Hunter Africa.
Yeah, I remember I learned alot about African hunting from
playing that game.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
I'm not a gamer by any means, but when I was
younger I did have Cabela's.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
African.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Hunter and I learned a lot about it, eland, yes, the
cool thing about Texas is thatyou can hunt, you can check off
a lot of your African big gamehunting from Texas.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
If you want a high fence, yes, it is high fenced, I
am so okay with high fence.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
That doesn't bother me in the least, I think it's
cool.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
I don't think I'd ever hunt high fence.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
It's more like purchasing livestock than it is
hunting.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
It's different.
Some of these high fence placesare like thousands and
thousands of acres.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
And a corn feeder in the middle.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
There's a lot of corn 82 corn I don't think I'd ever
hunt high fence.
I don't think I doesn't Like ifI'm going to go somewhere and
pay to do something I wouldnever hunt high fence.
It'd be a.
You'd get some shooting done.
I'd do it all with a gun too.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
I was talking me and Logan were talking about the elk
hunting thing and we werelooking at one outfitter I don't
even I can't remember the nameof it, and it was.
You could pay to pick the sizeof elk that you wanted.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
Pay per inches but we were talking before.
Speaker 4 (34:07):
Like a 500 inch plus elk is like 25.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
I think a lot of those big high fence white tail
places are like that too.
But we were talking about it,we're like I don't know if I'd
want to prepay for the size ofanimal I want, because then I
already know what I'm going Like.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
I want the hunt, it's different.
I want the chase of what Icould see.
I don't whether it's a smalleror bigger bull.
Speaker 4 (34:22):
If I'm going to hunt high fence whitetails, they're
going to send me eight picturesof these.
Are the deer you could shoot,and I'm like I know I would
assume.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
That is how it is.
It's still a trophy.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
It's still.
Is it?
It's ethical?
Yes, is it cheating?
Speaker 3 (34:37):
Yeah, it is yeah but I can go, we're not going to mix
words cheating, but is it cooland unique?
Speaker 1 (34:41):
Yeah, I'm not knocking it.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
I can go to my pasture and drop a cow, or I
could charge you to do it.
It wouldn't be much, I don'teven think.
Speaker 4 (34:51):
I'd honestly enjoy it .
Speaker 1 (34:52):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (34:54):
I don't know, it's just not for me.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
I've never been in that position.
We're talking.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
We have endless money .
Speaker 1 (34:59):
We're not talking, we all make our salaries If money
was no object for your dreamhunt?
All of us are truck drivers,you'll never achieve your dream
hunt driving a truck.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
Well, maybe you will, I don't know, unless it's
filled with cocaine.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
Yeah, that's too much , dalton.
Like I said, if I had to chooseanother, one different
continent, it'd be Cape Buffaloand Africa.
I mean, if you guys had tochoose just right offhand
another spot, doesn't that haveto be another continent?
Your second runner up, you knowrafts in Africa.
All right, that's cool Headshot.
Speaker 4 (35:34):
I always thought muskox would be cool.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Of course don't want to hunt something with a neck
yeah.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
I think actually I'd go muskox.
That's why I hate them.
They have one.
No, no, I'd actually go up withmy buddy in Yukon and go bison
hunting in Whitehorse.
Speaker 1 (35:48):
Actually, the bison- hunting would really cool.
The bison hunt is probably mythird pick.
Speaker 4 (35:53):
Yeah, bison anywhere.
Yeah, yeah, I go.
I think I'd still go Yukon.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
Ryan if you had to pick a second one.
It would either be red stag.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Cool In New Zealand.
Yep Nice.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Or it would be.
I guess they're incredible tohear.
Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
They roar, they roar.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
Yeah, so it would be that Could you do one?
Speaker 1 (36:14):
for us, Grant.
Uh no, I don't know how to doit.
It would either be that or it'dbe a similar style.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Like, I think, most of my dream hunt is probably
going to be something likemountainous, like very
physically demanding.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
So sheep hunt, so yeah, it would be something, it
would be something like a sheephunt, something where you're
just it's glassing you know.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
You're basically out in the middle of nowhere.
Speaker 4 (36:38):
Yeah, if I pick bighorn, sheep hunt, I'd
probably take a rifle, probablynot going to do that one.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Yeah, you're not going to bow hunt that one
Whoever's bow hunting.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
those hats off to you .
Speaker 4 (36:45):
Yeah, if you've gone with a bow.
Wow, that's impressive.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
With a rifle.
Is that even a thing, though?
Does anybody actually bow huntyou?
Speaker 2 (36:51):
No, they do, yes, they do People do it, but that
is an awfully tough hunt.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
Yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
It's tough enough for people to wait their whole life
.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
Yeah, if you're going to go once, you're probably not
going to.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
People wait their whole life to get a tag to go
with a rifle and they don't evenhave a chance at seeing, like
getting a shot off of one Daltonsecond one too.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
That's pretty cool.
We had this conversation beforewhat?
Speaker 2 (37:16):
caliber Dalton.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
What is the biggest possible caliber I can shoot?
I don't care, it's a 425.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
No, no, they make bigger than that.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
I don't care if my collarbone is sticking out of my
back 516, nitro no 520.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
They they make a 500-something nitro.
Okay, One of those doublebarrel, I do believe Like blow
my collarbone right through myback.
Yeah, no, don't worry, it'll doit.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
I'm just going to that hunt.
You have to be 250 pounds plus.
I got to gain weight again.
On that one there's a minimumof 250.
Yeah, exactly, just to fire therifle and much.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
You can use the gun for it.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
Yeah, when they say, how much gun do you want, I'm
going to say all of it.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
Well, with an elephant it's like anything.
I think its shot placement isone.
Speaker 4 (38:01):
That's why I need a big gun.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (38:04):
I think caliber.
Yeah, I don't think.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
Yeah, my 6.5 is not One of the biggest land mammals
on the Earth.
Yeah, 30- it's not yeah no, ifthe shot placement and caliber
yeah, yeah, definitely somecaliber with it that's a cool
one yeah.
I saw a deal on facebookcom.
There seems to be a theme herewith me, doesn't there?
Speaker 3 (38:21):
I'm really reckless in my dream house no, that's
cool, you guys are like oh, Iwant to watch the sun come up on
the the rocky mountains and I'mliving today or tomorrow
Nothing living I want everythingdead.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
I'm not even wearing my seatbelt, and a helicopter
hog hunt.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
Don's not strapped in at all.
I'm shooting at the otherhelicopter.
Speaker 4 (38:40):
Recoils the only thing holding me in Don's like I
need a gun option that has morebullets in and I can shoot
faster.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
What do you have?
Speaker 4 (38:48):
This bolt action is too slow when I miss.
Speaker 3 (38:50):
Yeah, there's going to be some wild stuff.
I get my way.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
Those are good, you know, and I like that.
That's what dreams are made ofand dreams are, you know, what
makes life worth living.
You just never know what isgoing to happen, what you could
accomplish, and it's interesting.
I always love to hear people'sdream hunts.
Like I said, it tells a bitabout the person and I like it.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
And I like it, yeah it makes you look a little
reckless, and I like it too,because people.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
They just kind of smile when I ask them sometimes
and they're like some of them,they already have it in mind and
they never thought of it.
But it's cool to think ofbecause you just never know
what's possible.
Speaker 4 (39:28):
You said you're going to take all of us when you
finally win a bingo at theLegion.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
Eh yeah, because I don't play bingo too much, a
little bit, and I'll tell youJoyce on the cards there she's
cheating.
I know she is.
No, I don't play bingo A littlebit what Joyce isn't playing.
But all right, boys, thanks forcoming on.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
Great conversation, as you would say.
I hope you guys listening havethought about you.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
Thought about you know what your dream hunt is and
maybe this resonates with you alittle bit and maybe you can
achieve it.
And you've got a great storyand you'd like to talk to us and
come on the podcast about it.
We'd love to hear it.
Until next time, see ya.
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