April 22, 2025 • 40 mins
Ready to test your black bear knowledge? This month's trivia episode pits Team Cubs against Team Boars as our panel of hunters tackles surprising facts about North America's most widespread predator.
Did you know the largest black bear ever recorded was killed in New Brunswick, Canada, weighing a staggering 902 pounds after being field dressed? Or that Alaska holds North America's highest black bear population at roughly 100,000 animals? These are just appetizers to the feast of knowledge served up as our contestants battle through questions about bear biology, hunting regulations, and field tactics.
The conversation reveals fascinating insights about these remarkable creatures. Black bears possess an extraordinary sense of smell that vastly outperforms their relatively poor eyesight, with some reports suggesting they can detect bait from up to ten miles away. Their seven-month pregnancy results in cubs born blind and weighing less than a pound. For hunters pursuing these animals, proper meat handling is essential – cooking to an internal temperature of 160°F eliminates the risk of trichinosis, resulting in what one guide describes as "the best meat I've ever had."
Perhaps most valuable is the spirited debate about baiting strategies, where team members argue the merits of limiting bait to create competition versus providing abundant food to minimize intrusion. This practical discussion, combined with historical context about indigenous hunting methods and medieval European trophies, creates a comprehensive picture of human-bear interactions across time and geography.
Whether you're an experienced bear hunter or simply curious about these magnificent animals, this episode delivers both entertainment and education. Subscribe now to catch future trivia challenges and hunting discussions!
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
this is hunts on outfitting podcast.
I'm your host and rookie guide,ken meyer.
I love everything hunting theoutdoors and all things
associated with it, fromstories-tos.
You'll find it here.
Welcome to the podcast.
Hey, thanks for listening in.
We have a very good episode foryou.
(00:33):
It's our monthly trivia.
Now, the berry was a pun becausemost places in North America
right now the spring black bearseason is starting.
How many places?
Well, you will learn that andlots more with if you're looking
at the podcast profile picture.
Left to right is DaltonPatterson, jesse Els, myself,
(00:57):
ken Maurer, lane Lewis and BenBlack.
We are all relatively new andinexperienced compared to some
more hardcore bear hunters, buttake a shot at some questions
about these black beasts.
I think you'll like it and youmight learn a thing or two.
Also, if you want to get a holdof us, you can on Facebook
Hunts on Outfitting and emailhuntsonoutfitting at gmailcom.
(01:21):
Also, I'm a proud feeder andsupporter of Nook Shook Dog Food
and I want to tell you guysabout their feeding calculator
on their website.
It's pretty cool.
So you go to the feedingcalculator on one of the tabs on
their website there and you canclick feeding calculator for
active adult dogs.
All right.
So which formula are youinterested in?
It's going to ask you.
So I'm going to hit the 26, 16or Marine 16, okay, and then you
(01:47):
put your weight of your dog.
So my dogs are about, say, 67pounds.
So it said my dog is estimatedto burn about 1,450 calories a
day.
So with the Marine 16, it saysmy dog would need about 3.1 cups
of Marine 16 per day.
(02:08):
So one bag should last me about38 days or 5.4 weeks.
It's pretty cool.
Just remember that every dog isdifferent.
This calculator only providesestimates based on average adult
dogs, on average to high energylevels, and you can change that
all around.
But this is just something togo off of and it's really neat
(02:30):
and it's handy and it just showsthat they care.
All right, boys, thanks realmuch for coming on the podcast.
We've got another hot andsteady and fast trivia one for
you.
Um, we're going to go aroundthe room and talk to everybody,
but before we do that I'm goingto show you the team names.
So we're going to have teamCubs versus team Boars, because
(02:50):
this is a bear related triviaone.
Now I'm trying to think who'sCubs here and who's Boars?
Ben's the oldest person playingDalton.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
I'm the heaviest.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
I know so Ben's old probably have to.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Dalton, I'm the heaviest, I know so, but Ben's
old, probably have to play rockpaper scissors for it.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Okay, I'm going to get.
Lane's, really small Lane'sreally small on this team.
You guys are the boars.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
So we'll do.
Dalton and Jesse are the boars.
We have gigantic heads.
Speaker 5 (03:18):
Yeah, so that's what you go for with bears, so they
were the trophies.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Yeah, jesse, yeah, and then Lane and Ben are the
Cubs.
Okay, so we got that squared upand sorted.
Now, what are you guys playingfor?
Well, I don't know how manypeople are going to be on this
one.
So you guys are playing for anew, slightly used but not
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really few iron pit stains.
But it's not that bad, you canwash it out.
Hunts on Outfitting t-shirt.
This shirt is in a large.
We can also order another large, depending on what team wins
and what size they feel they canfit into, or what people have
been telling them.
I'm like yeah, sure you can fitinto that, but you know I
figured that out, so we'll.
(04:04):
I've been telling them like,yeah, you sure you can fit into
that, but you know, figure thatout, so go around the room.
So this is a black bear basedone Lane.
You recently in New Brunswickhere, took up working on the the
big game club Yep here.
So, and you got a bear in that.
You got a big bear last yearyou talked about on the podcast.
How big did the bear score?
Speaker 5 (04:21):
He was.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
The skull sizes is measured.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
He was net 19 and 11 sixteenths.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
All right Lane.
So for the people there thataren't experts like yourself
self-proclaimed expert yourselfhow do you measure what makes a
black bear trophy If you want it, not just you know a trophy is,
in the eyes of the beholder,like a legit trophy.
Speaker 5 (04:44):
How you go about scoring it.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Yeah, how you score them.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
You go on the skull.
You go from nose to the base ofthe neck.
Yeah, and this is just a skulllike, not when the bear's intact
.
So you go front to back andthen you score side to side and
then you add the total inches.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Okay now what?
Now?
You know with deer when they'rescoring them.
There's things that can takeaway the points on the antlers.
Yeah, is there anything thatcan take away the points?
Speaker 5 (05:07):
on there's no deductions.
On a bear there's no deductions, just the 60-day drying period.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Okay, that's interesting.
All right, Next we've got Benon your team.
Ben Black's been on here beforeanother trivia one.
Ben, did you win that one?
We sure did.
You did you won that?
So Ben?
Speaker 2 (05:27):
you're getting into.
You're doing a little bearguiding this year.
Yeah, I've got a couple peoplelined up to hunt a couple baits,
so we'll see how that goes.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Yeah, okay, but you've hunted bear before.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Just a couple of times.
I'm still kind of new at it soit's going to be a learning
process, I'm sure.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
For you and the clients.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
That's good, but you got some.
Your main thing is you're doingsome fishing, yeah, guiding,
you got some tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Yeah, yeah, got quite a few of those lined up, so
it's.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
What's the fish species?
Straight bass, straight bass.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Are they considered invasive?
No, I thought.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
They're not.
No, they're native them.
Sometimes, they eat them.
They're a little aggressive,okay.
Up next on the other team we'vegot Dalton Patterson former
host, former champion of this,former loser, also of this who
looks like a bear himself buthas not hunted them.
Maybe that's why he doesn't goout in the season to hunt them.
Dalton, how's it going?
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Good, I'm the dumbest person in this room, for sure
that remains to be seen.
Lane's feeling confident.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Don't?
You're going to learn a lottonight.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
I'm here for moral support, maybe we'll learn
something from you.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Yes, and then coming up next, we've got Jesse.
Jesse's been on here before.
Jesse held a great DeltaWaterfowl Supper dinner that we
attended, you know, this pastwinter you have started a
chapter here in New Brunswickand Jesse, not only that, but
you guide Black Bear and youhave been for I'm going on my
second year right now yoursecond year guiding, and how
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many hunters would you guide?
Speaker 4 (06:56):
a year roughly.
I think we're getting about sixto eight hunters this season.
Two different crews come in.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Because you work full time.
You're a forester.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
Forest technician.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
And you've worked with Ben.
Because Ben is a forest cutter,you make sure he doesn't cut
too much.
Speaker 5 (07:15):
Just the right amount .
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Just what the formula calls for.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
That's right, and we didn't tell everyone.
Stalton does the firefighting,and then Lane is uh a pothole
watcher.
No, he works for the city.
Uh, same thing, right yeah uh.
So we've got, we've got a smart, we've got a, we've got a smart
crew here.
I think you know yeah, a widevariety.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
I think diverse would be the best word, that's.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
I was trying to.
Yeah, my vocabulary wasn'tdiverse, so that's why I said
that.
Alright, boys.
So I'm going to ask a question.
You guys are going to give mean answer, depending on what
question.
If you guys don't get it, I'lllet the other team get it, and I
want a little bit of discussionBack and forth.
(07:59):
So these are all Black Bearrelated questions.
Speaker 5 (08:04):
Who goes first?
Speaker 1 (08:05):
So we're going to go with the Cubs, cubs Lane and Ben
.
This is going to be a longanswer somewhat, but I'm looking
for a short.
The answer that I read out isgoing to be long, but I'm
looking for a short answer fromyou guys.
Question what US states andprovinces in Canada allow spring
(08:29):
bear hunting?
This is for black bears and Iwant a number.
Is it A 6, b 10, d 4, 5, 17, orC 19,?
Because I did this backwards?
So A 6, B 10, c 19, or D 17.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
I'm guessing 6, but I'm trying to think.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Oh boy.
I really don't know.
So I mean so here in NewBrunswick, I think I've always
taken it for granted that we canhunt spring blackberry, because
you, you think, can't everybody, but there's places that can't
soar.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Ontario started, didn't they?
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (09:12):
They're doing a pilot project.
Speaker 5 (09:13):
I'm not sure about Quebec and I'm not sure about
Manitoba, but Saskatchewan doesfor sure and Alberta does for
sure.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Okay, you got a few there.
What about the States?
Speaker 5 (09:27):
Do we know what states?
Speaker 1 (09:28):
I'm pretty sure BC does too.
Coastal spring bear and it'sgood, I mean black bear
populations are considered veryhigh and healthy across North
America.
So the spring bear season helpskind of keep those numbers in
check.
Speaker 5 (09:41):
I know Maine has a spring bear, yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Or New Hampshire has a spring bear, yeah or New
Hampshire 6, 10, 19, or 17 theyget New Jersey, but I think the
only fall bear hunt down therewhat about?
Speaker 5 (09:57):
I think, virginia.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
I don't know so are you guys thinking like a higher
number or a lower number?
Speaker 5 (10:04):
well, it's definitely higher than 6 higher than six
Higher than six.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Okay, well, the people listening are probably
getting bored.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Yeah, I really don't know.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
You're going to go with 10?
.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Okay, you went with the wrong one.
Okay, boys, team Boris.
Which is it?
Six 10.
It's not.
What did you guys say 10?
Yeah, six, 19,.
It's not.
What'd you guys say 10?
Yeah, 6, 19, or 17, thatprovinces and states that allow
spring bear hunting.
Well, I don't think it's a 19.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Talking to your mic there.
I don't think it's 6.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
It's definitely not 6 .
Speaker 4 (10:41):
Let's go with 17.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
17?
Yeah, you guys were close butalso wrong, so I'm going to read
them out.
So this is as of 2025.
This was way more than Ithought.
As of 2025, spring black bearhunting is permitted in British
Columbia, yukon, northwestTerritories, alberta,
saskatchewan, manitoba, ontario.
(11:04):
As of now, with our pilotproject, quebec, newfoundland,
new Brunswick.
In the States, we've got Idaho,montana, wyoming, oregon,
washington, utah, arizona,alaska and Maine, but only on
certain tribal lands, so theykind of don't really have one.
So the correct answer is 19.
Speaker 5 (11:24):
It's a lot.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
That's a lot more than I thought.
I didn't know that in Canada wehad that many Because Nova
Scotia can't.
They almost did this year.
But I think politics got in theway.
Speaker 5 (11:34):
I've never heard of anybody bear hunting in
Newfoundland in the spring.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
No, I mean, do you hear of a lot of bear hunting in
Newfoundland?
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Well, I do see them advertising that.
You say that.
So yeah, I wasn't even thinkingabout it.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
I was talking to a guy last week about bear hunting
in Newfoundland.
They've got a lot.
Because you think Newfoundland,you think moose and all that,
they've got a lot of bears.
They've got a lot of bear yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
I didn't even know they had bears there, like black
bear.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Guess I should have had that question on here.
Big ones too, really big, yeah,and I guess the population's
doing very well there, as it iseverywhere.
All right, so this question isgoing to Team Boars what state
has the highest number of blackbears?
Is it A California, b Alaska, cMontana or D Maine?
(12:25):
It's a tough one, I'll give youthat.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
I was thinking Alaska or Maine.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Jesse, you want to come a little closer?
Yeah, sure.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
What are your thoughts?
Speaker 3 (12:37):
I agree with you, but I don't know which one's right.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Now why are you guys thinking that Alaska or Maine it
was a good?
You know Maine's good a lot,alaska's good a lot.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Montana would have a lot of bears too, though yeah,
they sure do.
But I don't know that theywould have more than Alaska or
Maine right.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
And I can't confirm.
But you know how California ispretty weird and they've gotten
rid of, like what they get ridof trapping, I think, and this
and that I can't say for sure,but they had a high bear
population well, no, not inCalifornia this is true.
(13:11):
Because their cat population isout of control, they shut that
down too they shut down trappingand they're having a lot of
trouble with coyotes, bobcats,all these animals that should be
trapped, but they haven'tchanged that that I know of
right now.
But yeah, which state has thehighest number of black bears?
Speaker 4 (13:31):
what do you lean towards?
Speaker 3 (13:35):
oh, it's alaska or maine, I don't know.
I'm gonna say you go ahead andpick, because I don't know
alaska isn't alaska huge, though, okay, might.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
Maine's pretty small too.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
There's a lot of bear there.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
There's a lot of bear , because I know I'm just
thinking about the population ofBrunswick.
It's pretty high.
You go ahead and pick.
We're going to go with Alaska.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
You are going with the right one, boys.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Alaska, yep.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
It's the right one, boys.
Alaska, yep.
So who was saying, was it you,dalton?
How big it is?
Yeah, I mean, it's so big.
So Alaska is home to thelargest population of black
bears in the United States, withan estimated population of
about 100,000, found all overthe state, from coastal
rainforests to interiorwilderness areas.
You know what the neat thingabout the interior wilderness
(14:25):
areas is they're different fromthe exterior wilderness areas.
You know what the neat thingabout the interior wilderness
areas is they're different fromthe exterior wilderness areas.
The more you know.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
We'll take our point there, please.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
I was kind of surprised by that one sort of.
I had some other states in mind, because everyone thinks New
Jersey.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
New Jersey is a small state, though that would have
been my guess.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Kind of small, the Garden State yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
See, I was expecting Wyoming to be on that list so I
was like, oh, maybe if he saysWyoming then I'll just go with
that.
But everybody from the EastCoast to New Brunswick is going
to say Maine because that's whatthey know right there.
There's a lot of bears thereand then I think it's Alaska.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
You can legally shoot .
I think it's three black bear ayear, a season.
Yeah, they got a lot.
Well, they got the highestpopulation, All right.
So we are at Team Cubs lookingto get you guys on the board.
How long is a black bearpregnant?
Is it A, six months, B, sevenmonths, C, eight months?
(15:30):
And yes, that's right, there'sno.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
D Don't look at me it would be the D was used to make
this question possible.
Speaker 5 (15:37):
Well, the rots in June.
How far into hibernation dothey actually?
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Oh nice, We've got some mathematicians over here.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
February, I think, don't they.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
The rots ruffling January.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
February so or are they fresh when they come out?
Speaker 2 (15:57):
I have no idea no, they'd be in the den for at
least a month, I would think,before they actually come out.
They come out pretty small sowhat are the answers?
Speaker 1 (16:05):
so 6 months, 7 months or 8 months or eight months
they're close together, so thiskept the question a little
harder.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Or 35 months, no, I'll just say seven, because
it's in the middle, put you inFebruary.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
I like your technique .
That's what I did in school.
Speaker 5 (16:24):
Okay, I didn't study for this one.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
This teacher is not that original.
Let's go with the middle onefor multiple choice.
Speaker 5 (16:32):
Yeah, seven sounds right.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Sounds right because Ben said it Sure Timeline.
Speaker 5 (16:37):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
So, yep, you guys are right.
So it is B around 220 days, soabout seven months.
The cubs are born blind, nearlyhairless and weigh under a
pound.
So the first part of it theylook like laying in the morning.
Nice boys, nice, I'm happy youguys are on the board.
You guys are on the board, allright.
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So this question here.
Remember, before we startedthis, I told you guys there's
going to be a question on herethat you're like huh, that's
surprising.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
Okay.
Told you guys, there's going tobe a question on here that
you're like huh, that'ssurprising.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Okay, that's good to know.
Okay, Okay, so we are in teamBoers.
The question what province orstate was the largest black bear
killed?
Was it A New Brunswick?
Speaker 4 (17:23):
B.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Maine, c North Carolina or D the Yukon?
What place had the largestblack bear killed?
Speaker 5 (17:34):
Is this in the world?
Speaker 1 (17:35):
This is.
I said province or state.
Speaker 5 (17:39):
Yes, but it's the biggest one shot in the world.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
It's the biggest one in the province or state in
North America.
Biggest one in North America.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
So Yukon makes sense to me, but it's supposed to be
something that's going to shockus.
I didn't say shock you.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
That's interesting.
I already know the answer, metoo.
Speaker 4 (18:02):
So I'm thinking it's going to be New Brunswick or
Maine.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Both very similar because they're next to each
other.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
But not that similar at all.
What's the other one, uconn?
Speaker 1 (18:14):
North Carolina.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
I feel like it's North Carolina.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
Honestly, you can choose for this one.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Okay, north Carolina is our final answer.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Final answer yeah, final wrong answer.
Was it All right?
Look at these two cocky boysover here.
Speaker 5 (18:28):
They actually knew what is it.
It's New Brunswick it is.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
I'm not surprised I want to tell you though, dalton,
don't feel dumb because NorthCarolina when I was reading
before they actually are knownfor having pretty consistent
large bear taking.
Speaker 5 (18:43):
Like North Carolina, is a state that you can get some
big bears.
It's Fredericton Junction way,really.
In 1980-something, yeah,something like that.
It was 900-something pounds.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
If we were at a party and that was you saying
1980-something, frederictonJunction, you'd look pretty
smart.
But old Ken here has got theexact answer.
Ooh, so the biggest wild blackbear ever recorded was a male
from New Brunswick, canada, shotNovember 1972.
That weighed 409 kg, so around902 pounds.
(19:15):
After it had been dressed itmeasured 7 foot 11 inches long,
but the largest skull ever froma black bear that was found in
Utah but no one killed it.
But the largest skull ever froma black bear that was found in
Utah.
But no one killed it.
But that's the largest skullfound.
Was in Utah.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
Did they have a score on that bear?
Speaker 1 (19:34):
They did, and I didn't write it down.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
Oh.
So, We'll look that one uplater.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Yeah, that'd be interesting, yeah so the largest
skull was found in Utah.
So that was interesting, butyeah, the biggest one.
So that's when I was like, huh,that's interesting.
New Brunswick Yep In November1972.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
But yes, North Carolina is known to have like
really big swamp bears, Likeconsistent five 600 pound bears.
I don't know if they're cornfed or what it is.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Well, yeah, some of that Swamp, whatever they're
getting in the swamps too.
There's a lot of hound huntingthere too.
So I mean it's pretty wildlooking at something that big.
It's looking down at you if ittrees, all right, good,
interesting, right here that's abig black bear.
(20:20):
Yeah, it's the biggest in theworld, all right.
So, team Cubs, you guys gotthat point.
This is your time.
So what temperature do mostexperts recommend to cook bear
meat at to avoid trichinosis?
And I don't have an A, b, c orD, because you guys are big boys
(20:43):
.
You guys are just going to giveme a number.
So this is.
Some people have a lower numberor a higher number.
This is what most expertsrecommend and this is.
You know, you're pretty safe,you are safe with this.
You could have a lower numberand say you're pretty safe, but
this number here is safe If yousay 170, you'd be probably safe.
Speaker 5 (21:03):
I was always told 165 .
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Yeah somewhere in that area.
Speaker 5 (21:07):
That's the mark they try to hit internally.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Right there I'd say so not all bears have it.
So pigs and bears mainly haveit.
Not all have it, but they saidto assume that all of them have
it in the meat and it's you knowit's worms, I think.
Yeah, because of what they eatand stuff, they're the ultimate
omnivores.
Did you know that pigs andbears are actually considered in
the same family omnivores?
(21:29):
I think?
Boars sows, yeah, cubs andpiglets is different, but yeah,
yeah.
So what temperature do mostexperts recommend Go?
Speaker 2 (21:41):
with 165.
Yeah, 165.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
You guys are very close, but you do not have it
right, Boys.
I'm going to give you a hint.
It's around what they said.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
So that's a good start.
The close kind of gave it away.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Beef was 175.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Oh, but you can eat beef raw 165.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Yeah, I do, but pretty well.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
I feel like it'd be.
They said 165.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
I don't know, I guessed wrong, so I'm going to
let you guess.
Jesse, give us your thoughtprocess A little bit over, a
little bit under.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Ooh, no pun intended.
Eh yeah, we're going to cookthis one medium, well or rare.
I'm going to tell you this tooit's an.
Give me an increment of fiveHigher or lower.
Is it 165?
, is it?
Speaker 4 (22:28):
170?
170.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
You guys said 165.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
You're going to go with 170?
.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
Yeah, that's what we're going to go with, okay.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Still went with the wrong one.
So the standard recommendationto be on the very safe side is
160 degrees Fahrenheit.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Confirm it with the thermometer and allow the meat
to rest for three minutes beforecutting.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
Next time I try to talk, just take the mic.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
I think it'd be even safer if you cook it to 170.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
We're very safety conscious over here it'd be
super safe if you burnt it at300, yeah if you cook it to
flame at 300 for 5 minutes, yeah, you won't get anything in the
meat.
But yeah, so people listeningthat don't know this.
Yeah, cook your damn bear meatif you're going to eat it, and
(23:22):
bear meat's very good.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
It's the best meat I've ever had Very best.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Nice, Jesse Nice.
You don't get that a lot thebest meat I've ever had.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
It's hard to convince people that.
But Now spring bear I find fallAll bear I've only had spring.
Speaker 5 (23:34):
Very greasy.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
It's good.
A lot of people will compare itto beef, but most people don't
eat it.
So, Jess, are you saying that Ilike that.
Speaker 5 (23:40):
It is.
It's really good.
I fed it to people before andthey said it was great and they
didn't believe me.
It was bear meat.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
It's like eating a roast beef.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Yeah, there was a guy that I did a Euro for last
bears or anything.
Come in.
He said just let me know I wantthe bear meat.
Because he said it's very bad,he just loves it.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
Yeah, oh, yeah, yeah we have guys that, like some
people that come over the hunt,don't want to keep their bear
meat, and so we have other guysthat want the meat, and they
just take the meat after thehunt's done.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Some people like well , you can only have it, it's
only good if you do it insausage or whatever.
Like no, we've done it.
Remember, lane, one time I shota bear, took it to your
parents' house when you guyswere living there.
We hung it up, skinned it andliterally cut the meat after
skinning it right from the bearonto the barbecue Delicious, we
didn't marinate it.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
this that Backstraps right on the barbecue Right on.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Yeah, it was really good.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
What we do every time we shoot a bear is take the
heart out and eat it that night.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
I haven't eaten.
Bear heart, amazing, that nightI haven't eaten bear heart.
Amazing.
Speaker 5 (24:36):
I've had deer heart.
I've had deer heart.
Yes, it was good.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Deer heart was very good yeah, I've not had bear
heart.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
You'll have to try it next time you shoot one.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
I will, I'll try it.
Yeah, do you cut it up the sameway as a deer heart?
Yep, kind of yeah.
Yeah just cook it on the whatyou don't want to do is get your
, um, your beef it's compared tobeef.
But you don't want to get thatmixed up, uh, with your bear
meat.
Imagine like, hey guys, I gotthis nice steak, so we're going
(25:04):
to have them rare tonight.
Okay, get the flavor in there.
You look back like, oh, I mixedup the packaging.
Everyone's got trichinosis.
Now that that's a gift thatkeeps on giving forever because
you can't get rid of it.
So good side discussion.
But what?
Whose question is it?
(25:24):
Team Cubs?
Okay, we are tied at 2-1, whichisn't a tie.
So the question whichindigenous tool was historically
used to hunt bears beforefirearms were introduced?
Okay, was it A, the blowgun?
(25:46):
B the sling.
C oh boy, the atlatl.
Or D, the bow and arrow.
Do not ask for an explanationof the atlatl.
I'm not sure what it is okay tobe honest, but I was looking it
up, that came up and I didn'tget into the research of it.
(26:08):
So what did the indigenoustools which is the name of
Lane's rock band historicallyused to hunt bears before
firearms were introduced, you?
Can see the historical toolsthis Thursday night at the pub
house.
I couldn't imagine you used ablowgun for a bear no.
Speaker 5 (26:30):
It'd be nice if I knew what that whatever you call
it was.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
I thought you did.
Speaker 5 (26:35):
No.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Doesn't everybody?
Speaker 5 (26:36):
No.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
Okay, so it's not just me, it's gotta be a bow and
arrow, I would guess.
There's some pretty wickedslings out there, not that I'm
telling you guys what to pick.
Speaker 5 (26:49):
I would guess bow and arrow, it's the only thing I
can think.
Alright, we'll go with bow andarrow.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
You guys are going with the right one, alright, the
bow and arrow.
The.
We'll go with bow and arrow.
You guys are going with theright one, all right, the bow
and arrow.
The indigenous use powerfulbows with heavy arrows tipped
with stone or bone to hunt bears.
So good, but I don't know whatthat other thing is.
But I know it's a real thing.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
I did not make that up.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Yeah, find out what it is.
Isn't it the Spell?
That for me, isn't it theatlatl or?
Speaker 1 (27:13):
A-T-L-A-T-L Adel, adel All right.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
Pretty sure it's a, if I'm not mistaken.
I don't know why I'm thinkingof this, but I think it's a
device that throws like a rock,isn't it?
Okay, who's got their?
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Maybe that's it we're going to Google it after this.
I'm going to look it up rightnow.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
Yeah, I think it's some kind of a.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
If Dalton's right with that, I'm definitely giving
you guys a point.
Oh, any guesses you watch it.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
It's a friggin' ceiling fan, right.
It's like the furthest thingfrom what I said.
Okay.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
An adol-adol, also known as a spear thrower or
spear throwing lever, is a toolthat uses leverage to throw
darts or spears with greatervelocity and distance.
Do you?
Speaker 5 (28:02):
have a picture.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
It essentially acts as an extension of the arm,
providing more force and rangecompared to a normal throw.
Holy shit, how did you knowthat?
Speaker 3 (28:11):
I don't know how I knew that.
I don't know where that camefrom.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
I have seen a picture of that.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
I think they hunt seals with them in Alaska.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
Yeah, I know, exactly what they're saying now that
they say that oh yeah, that'swhere I've seen them used before
.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Oh, and now you know, ben, exactly Now that it's been
said, and come up with Ofcourse I didn't know the name,
but I've seen those before, Ican picture it.
Yeah, we'll.
Oh, a natal ladle, according tomy calculations, is a spirit.
It's like what the fuck?
I couldn't even say it, right.
Speaker 5 (28:40):
All right, does that go back to us now?
Speaker 1 (28:42):
No.
Speaker 5 (28:42):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
That was just a bonus thing that Dalton threw it.
I can't not give a point tothat.
That was pretty smart.
Speaker 5 (28:48):
True.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
We're like however you say this, ataladi pronounced
it wrong and there's some guyyelling at a speaker man,
whatever you knew it, thatfucking idiot.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
So all right, team Bores.
Which sense is most developedin bears and is most crucial to
consider when hunting them?
Is it A their sight, b theirsmell or C their hearing?
Speaker 4 (29:19):
They have bad sight and they have pretty good smells
.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
What about the?
Speaker 4 (29:27):
hearing.
They hear pretty well as well.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
Yeah, I'm thinking the same way.
I don't know what the rightanswer is, but my guess would
have been smell.
But I don't know.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
I'm going with the nose, for sure.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
Well, Jesse, you're going with the right one.
Okay, Because a bear's sense ofsmell is incredible, many times
greater than a bloodhound's.
I can't say this for sure, butI think they have one of the
best sniffers in all the animalworld.
I know it's better than a deer.
A bear's nose is better than adeer.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
I heard on a podcast once I don't know which one it
was that they claimed a bearcould smell a bait from 10 miles
away.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Really, I think that would depend on a lot of stuff.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
It was actually like a radio-collared bear that went
straight line to a bait orsomething.
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
Pretty crazy.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
It might have been like a Dan Inful thing.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
I think that would depend on a lot of the terrain,
time of year, wind direction,all that.
But I do know that they have abetter nose than a deer.
Oh yeah definitely it's prettydamn good.
So, Jesse, you're saying theireyesight's bad.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
Yeah, they don't see very well.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
I've walked in on bears before and they look like
they're staring at you, but theydon't have a clue.
Speaker 4 (30:37):
You're there, no, really yeah, I know they had
small eyes.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Yeah, they definitely small eyes that's why they uh,
they stand up, though to get abetter look and all that.
Yeah, I know some people thinkit's like an aggression thing.
Do they ever stand up as anaggression thing with people, or
no?
They get well with aggressionyeah, it's just to get a better
view, or or smell or smell.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
Every time I've seen one up, they have their nose in
the air trying to sniff outwhat's in front of them
basically.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Yeah, and it's amazing how quiet they are too.
Very quiet, because I was toldthat bears think about every
single step they take.
You'd hear a deer coming intoyour stand long before you'd
hear a bear.
They just poof.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
Yeah, a bear can be like silent or they can make a
ton of noise like yeah want tobe quiet, they will be.
Yeah, must be.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
You know the pads right the pad cell, but still,
I've got some pretty paddedboots and you hear me crunching
through there like I'm walkingon a bag of chips that's because
you don't stop talking no, I'mcrunching lane, I'm crunching
okay.
so we actually are tied up forreal, this time at 3-3.
So, Team Cubs.
In medieval Europe, which partof the bear was often considered
(31:46):
a trophy and a symbol ofstrength?
Was it A the skull, B the paw,or C the hide, or D the claws?
So in medieval Europe, whichpart of the bear was considered
a trophy and a symbol ofstrength, what did those
Europeans like?
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Probably the claws.
Speaker 5 (32:14):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
That seems obvious.
Maybe it is.
Is that what we're going withboys?
Speaker 2 (32:25):
What do you think?
Speaker 5 (32:26):
Paws was the first thing that came to mind, Because
I don't remember where, butsomewhere overseas paws are a
delicacy to eat.
That's the first thing thatcame to my mind.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
That's a good thought process.
Is that what you're going with?
Speaker 5 (32:44):
No, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
I like the thought process.
Okay, that's good.
You're kind of like you'resounding out the answer if you
will Working it out, but if youhad to pick one, because you do.
Speaker 5 (32:59):
Yeah, I don't know, but if you had to pick one,
because you do.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Why should it be obvious and meet a skull?
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Yeah, I don't know.
Why does the skull seem obviousover the claws?
Speaker 2 (33:07):
I'm just thinking claws.
Well, the prize here is a skull.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Here.
This is not medieval Europe,Keep in mind where this question
is being asked from.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
I'm thinking claws it's being asked by me based in
medieval Europe.
We'll go with claws.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
You're going with claws, yep.
Being asked from something inclause being asked by me,
necklace based in medieval.
Go with claws, yep.
Go with wrong answer.
Team bores, what are we?
So?
It's not the what'd you guyssay?
The clause?
Yeah, oh, that was right, I'mjust kidding, it's not.
I was paying attention, is itthe?
Speaker 4 (33:34):
skull, the paws or the hide?
I'm almost thinking it's thehide.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
That was my guess too .
If it's right, I have the hide.
That was my guess too.
If it's right, I have no idea,but that was my guess.
I figured it was one of thoselast two, but they eliminated
one for me.
But you go ahead.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
So if we're both thinking hide, we're going to go
with the hide.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Well, you guys should both think with somebody else
because you're wrong.
Okay, lane, it's the pause.
Why?
I really couldn't get a supergreat answer on that, but it is
the pause.
Yeah, when you were saying that, I was like, okay, yeah, should
go with that, should have.
And then you guys started goingoff on some weird tangent or
(34:11):
whatever in your heads and chosewrong.
But yeah, it's the pause and itmaybe has something to do with
the delicacy thing or it's justthe pause.
You know their big manly bearpaws.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
I'm not sure exactly, but but you'd think the claws
would be more of a sign ofstrength than the paws, right?
I think a bear paw is like akid's snack, right?
Speaker 1 (34:31):
But all bears.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
You know like they're in my cupboard right now.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
You would, you big bear, but no, but the bear.
I don't think they had the bearpaws back then, like we do now
they did, they just tastedifferent.
But the bear claws we think allbears have whatever claws, right
, but only some bears have thebig paws.
Yeah, maybe Medieval Europeans.
(34:54):
I've got to look more into that, but I know that's the answer.
Yeah, okay, so we're at youguys, and this is the tiebreaker
.
Why did you guys have to tie up?
Actually, because this is not agreat question to break the tie
.
Why did you guys have to dothat?
Alright, team Boars Question.
(35:15):
Is it best, when baiting bears,to limit bait to create
competition or load up everytime with the goods?
Jesse, as a bear guide, I'mreally counting on you to get
this right.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
Well, I always like to limit my bait to make
competition.
So, when I show up and put thebait in, bears want to come
right out.
That's my thought process onthat.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
I like that process.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
So that's what I have to go with, okay.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
I'm going to give you guys a little more to this
question.
This is what I wrote.
I wrote just the question why?
Because I'm going to decide whohas the best answer.
So this is a perfecttie-breaking answer, because I
knew you guys would tie up, okay.
Speaker 5 (36:02):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
So boys, cubs, Lane and Ben, what do you guys think?
And I'm going to go with thebest answer.
So actually, this worked outperfect.
Speaker 5 (36:15):
Well, you can put an answer on both, on both.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
Okay, that was stupid Lane Because well bear baiting
Well.
Speaker 5 (36:22):
I mean everyone's right.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
So you're saying we're right.
Speaker 5 (36:25):
No, but you also see, it's a double-edged sword.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
You just want to split the point no Split the
t-shirts See in my mind it'slike why wouldn't you just
overload it with baits so thatway they just keep coming back?
And as long as you keep it fullthey're going to keep coming
back, whereas Joe Blow down theroad that baits once, maybe
every 10 days.
Bears will be there for acouple of days and they'll mosey
.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
Well, that seems excessive.
Let's not say 10 days.
Let's say we're going to say,even if it was only four or five
days, okay, four, we'll sayfour.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Limiting bait they go in, whereas if your barrel has
something in it every day untilyou go back and bait it to top
it, off.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
But do you think, if you say you're going there every
day, should you limit it, sothat way the bear's got to come
right in.
Speaker 5 (37:08):
We also don't need to go every day if you're filling
the barrel.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
Right.
Speaker 5 (37:12):
It'd be more efficient to go every two or
three days.
That also cuts back onintrusion on them too.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
They're filling it every day, yeah it is more
efficient to go every two orthree, depending on what you do
for work if you're a full-timeguide during that part of the
season.
Speaker 5 (37:25):
Because they say if a bear comes into a bait and it's
gone they will move off to adifferent food source.
Speaker 4 (37:37):
Jesse, you guide any.
When I hunt bear, I bait thesame time every day day, so that
way the bears are on the samepattern I am.
They know I come in at fiveo'clock.
They're going to be there atthat time, so that's why I limit
my bait.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
I could see that if it's an established bait,
because I know people that willeither bang a barrel or they'll
hear their vehicle pull oh yeah,you're on the tailgate if
they're trained to that, then ofcourse, but not everyone can go
to the same bait at 5 o'clockevery day.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
Yes, that's very difficult to do.
Kudos, Jesse.
Speaker 5 (38:04):
People have jobs and kids.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
No offense, Jesse.
Unemployed kids?
No, he works, he takes offtheir season and you're a
stepdad, so I see both sidesthough?
Okay, but like I said, is itbetter to put a bid in and
create competition, or oh, wegot the?
Well, I'm kind of an expert, soyeah, because dalton's been
(38:29):
going into your guys's bear baityeah, that's what I do.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
Yeah, that's right.
Lane, get those twizzlers mydays off.
That's what I do going tolane's bear bait um get snacks
for work that week but wouldn'tyou want to create a little bit
of competition, because aren'tyou trying to kill a bigger bear
, not just any bear, I don'tknow.
That's all I'm going to say.
Thanks.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
Okay, nice, I like it .
So what are we going with?
I know what you guys are goingwith Lane and Ben.
You guys can't go answer.
Speaker 5 (39:01):
I'm going to go fill it up, because that's what I do,
you guys going in how oftenRoughly I run cell cameras.
I wait until the bait's empty.
Okay, it also helps withintrusion, so I don't have to go
in there for four or five days.
And gas isn't cheap Okay.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
Neither is time no.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
Alright, some philosophers over here.
So for the tiebreaker, I'mgoing to go with no.
Alright, some philosophers overhere.
So for the tiebreaker, I'mgonna go with drumroll.
Please, drumroll, just kidding,you got it.
No, that's pretty good, boys.
Thanks, I'm gonna go with teamBoars.
I like the idea of creatingthat competition, because the
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bear will be able to smell, theyknow that the bait is there and
they better get their asses inthere if they want it, and I
like both you guys' explanationsto it.
I see the other side too, and Idon't know if there is a right
or wrong answer to this.
Somebody listening to this willsay well, it's that one, it's
definitely Team Cubs, or it'sthat one, it's definitely Team
Boars.
And somebody that knows just asmuch as that person saying that
(39:59):
will probably say the opposite.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
We knew you'd make the right choice.
I made a choice.
We had faith.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
That was right.
So, yeah, All right, don't goto reassure me of my decisions.
No, boys, thanks for playingand I hope that you learned
something.
The New Brunswick, the biggestbear in the world, that was the
one, like I said that really Iwas like, wow, that's neat.
Yeah, but yeah, Pretty cool toknow In Alaska.
I did not know that Alaska,with all the grizzly bears and
stuff that they have there aswell, had the most black bear.
(40:25):
That kind of surprised me.
Speaker 5 (40:27):
There are mostly brown bears in Alaska, by the
way.
There's what it's mostly brownbears.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
Yeah, well, other bears?
Okay, how about that?
I knew that they had more thanone bear species there, so I
didn't think that they had themost black bears.
The questions weren't aboutbrown bears or anything,
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We've got another hot andsteady and fast trivia one for
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Um, we're going to go aroundthe room and talk to everybody,
but before we do that I'm goingto show you the team names.
So we're going to have teamCubs versus team Boars, because
(02:50):
this is a bear related triviaone.
Now I'm trying to think who'sCubs here and who's Boars?
Ben's the oldest person playingDalton.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
I'm the heaviest.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
I know so Ben's old probably have to.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Dalton, I'm the heaviest, I know so, but Ben's
old, probably have to play rockpaper scissors for it.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Okay, I'm going to get.
Lane's, really small Lane'sreally small on this team.
You guys are the boars.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
So we'll do.
Dalton and Jesse are the boars.
We have gigantic heads.
Speaker 5 (03:18):
Yeah, so that's what you go for with bears, so they
were the trophies.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Yeah, jesse, yeah, and then Lane and Ben are the
Cubs.
Okay, so we got that squared upand sorted.
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You recently in New Brunswickhere, took up working on the the
big game club Yep here.
So, and you got a bear in that.
You got a big bear last yearyou talked about on the podcast.
How big did the bear score?
Speaker 5 (04:21):
He was.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
The skull sizes is measured.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
He was net 19 and 11 sixteenths.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
All right Lane.
So for the people there thataren't experts like yourself
self-proclaimed expert yourselfhow do you measure what makes a
black bear trophy If you want it, not just you know a trophy is,
in the eyes of the beholder,like a legit trophy.
Speaker 5 (04:44):
How you go about scoring it.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Yeah, how you score them.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
You go on the skull.
You go from nose to the base ofthe neck.
Yeah, and this is just a skulllike, not when the bear's intact
.
So you go front to back andthen you score side to side and
then you add the total inches.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Okay now what?
Now?
You know with deer when they'rescoring them.
There's things that can takeaway the points on the antlers.
Yeah, is there anything thatcan take away the points?
Speaker 5 (05:07):
on there's no deductions.
On a bear there's no deductions, just the 60-day drying period.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Okay, that's interesting.
All right, Next we've got Benon your team.
Ben Black's been on here beforeanother trivia one.
Ben, did you win that one?
We sure did.
You did you won that?
So Ben?
Speaker 2 (05:27):
you're getting into.
You're doing a little bearguiding this year.
Yeah, I've got a couple peoplelined up to hunt a couple baits,
so we'll see how that goes.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Yeah, okay, but you've hunted bear before.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Just a couple of times.
I'm still kind of new at it soit's going to be a learning
process, I'm sure.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
For you and the clients.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
That's good, but you got some.
Your main thing is you're doingsome fishing, yeah, guiding,
you got some tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Yeah, yeah, got quite a few of those lined up, so
it's.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
What's the fish species?
Straight bass, straight bass.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Are they considered invasive?
No, I thought.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
They're not.
No, they're native them.
Sometimes, they eat them.
They're a little aggressive,okay.
Up next on the other team we'vegot Dalton Patterson former
host, former champion of this,former loser, also of this who
looks like a bear himself buthas not hunted them.
Maybe that's why he doesn't goout in the season to hunt them.
Dalton, how's it going?
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Good, I'm the dumbest person in this room, for sure
that remains to be seen.
Lane's feeling confident.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Don't?
You're going to learn a lottonight.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
I'm here for moral support, maybe we'll learn
something from you.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Yes, and then coming up next, we've got Jesse.
Jesse's been on here before.
Jesse held a great DeltaWaterfowl Supper dinner that we
attended, you know, this pastwinter you have started a
chapter here in New Brunswickand Jesse, not only that, but
you guide Black Bear and youhave been for I'm going on my
second year right now yoursecond year guiding, and how
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many hunters would you guide?
Speaker 4 (06:56):
a year roughly.
I think we're getting about sixto eight hunters this season.
Two different crews come in.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Because you work full time.
You're a forester.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
Forest technician.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
And you've worked with Ben.
Because Ben is a forest cutter,you make sure he doesn't cut
too much.
Speaker 5 (07:15):
Just the right amount .
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Just what the formula calls for.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
That's right, and we didn't tell everyone.
Stalton does the firefighting,and then Lane is uh a pothole
watcher.
No, he works for the city.
Uh, same thing, right yeah uh.
So we've got, we've got a smart, we've got a, we've got a smart
crew here.
I think you know yeah, a widevariety.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
I think diverse would be the best word, that's.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
I was trying to.
Yeah, my vocabulary wasn'tdiverse, so that's why I said
that.
Alright, boys.
So I'm going to ask a question.
You guys are going to give mean answer, depending on what
question.
If you guys don't get it, I'lllet the other team get it, and I
want a little bit of discussionBack and forth.
(07:59):
So these are all Black Bearrelated questions.
Speaker 5 (08:04):
Who goes first?
Speaker 1 (08:05):
So we're going to go with the Cubs, cubs Lane and Ben
.
This is going to be a longanswer somewhat, but I'm looking
for a short.
The answer that I read out isgoing to be long, but I'm
looking for a short answer fromyou guys.
Question what US states andprovinces in Canada allow spring
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bear hunting?
This is for black bears and Iwant a number.
Is it A 6, b 10, d 4, 5, 17, orC 19,?
Because I did this backwards?
So A 6, B 10, c 19, or D 17.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
I'm guessing 6, but I'm trying to think.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Oh boy.
I really don't know.
So I mean so here in NewBrunswick, I think I've always
taken it for granted that we canhunt spring blackberry, because
you, you think, can't everybody, but there's places that can't
soar.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Ontario started, didn't they?
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (09:12):
They're doing a pilot project.
Speaker 5 (09:13):
I'm not sure about Quebec and I'm not sure about
Manitoba, but Saskatchewan doesfor sure and Alberta does for
sure.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Okay, you got a few there.
What about the States?
Speaker 5 (09:27):
Do we know what states?
Speaker 1 (09:28):
I'm pretty sure BC does too.
Coastal spring bear and it'sgood, I mean black bear
populations are considered veryhigh and healthy across North
America.
So the spring bear season helpskind of keep those numbers in
check.
Speaker 5 (09:41):
I know Maine has a spring bear, yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Or New Hampshire has a spring bear, yeah or New
Hampshire 6, 10, 19, or 17 theyget New Jersey, but I think the
only fall bear hunt down therewhat about?
Speaker 5 (09:57):
I think, virginia.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
I don't know so are you guys thinking like a higher
number or a lower number?
Speaker 5 (10:04):
well, it's definitely higher than 6 higher than six
Higher than six.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Okay, well, the people listening are probably
getting bored.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Yeah, I really don't know.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
You're going to go with 10?
.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Okay, you went with the wrong one.
Okay, boys, team Boris.
Which is it?
Six 10.
It's not.
What did you guys say 10?
Yeah, six, 19,.
It's not.
What'd you guys say 10?
Yeah, 6, 19, or 17, thatprovinces and states that allow
spring bear hunting.
Well, I don't think it's a 19.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Talking to your mic there.
I don't think it's 6.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
It's definitely not 6 .
Speaker 4 (10:41):
Let's go with 17.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
17?
Yeah, you guys were close butalso wrong, so I'm going to read
them out.
So this is as of 2025.
This was way more than Ithought.
As of 2025, spring black bearhunting is permitted in British
Columbia, yukon, northwestTerritories, alberta,
saskatchewan, manitoba, ontario.
(11:04):
As of now, with our pilotproject, quebec, newfoundland,
new Brunswick.
In the States, we've got Idaho,montana, wyoming, oregon,
washington, utah, arizona,alaska and Maine, but only on
certain tribal lands, so theykind of don't really have one.
So the correct answer is 19.
Speaker 5 (11:24):
It's a lot.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
That's a lot more than I thought.
I didn't know that in Canada wehad that many Because Nova
Scotia can't.
They almost did this year.
But I think politics got in theway.
Speaker 5 (11:34):
I've never heard of anybody bear hunting in
Newfoundland in the spring.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
No, I mean, do you hear of a lot of bear hunting in
Newfoundland?
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Well, I do see them advertising that.
You say that.
So yeah, I wasn't even thinkingabout it.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
I was talking to a guy last week about bear hunting
in Newfoundland.
They've got a lot.
Because you think Newfoundland,you think moose and all that,
they've got a lot of bears.
They've got a lot of bear yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
I didn't even know they had bears there, like black
bear.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Guess I should have had that question on here.
Big ones too, really big, yeah,and I guess the population's
doing very well there, as it iseverywhere.
All right, so this question isgoing to Team Boars what state
has the highest number of blackbears?
Is it A California, b Alaska, cMontana or D Maine?
(12:25):
It's a tough one, I'll give youthat.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
I was thinking Alaska or Maine.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Jesse, you want to come a little closer?
Yeah, sure.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
What are your thoughts?
Speaker 3 (12:37):
I agree with you, but I don't know which one's right.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Now why are you guys thinking that Alaska or Maine it
was a good?
You know Maine's good a lot,alaska's good a lot.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Montana would have a lot of bears too, though yeah,
they sure do.
But I don't know that theywould have more than Alaska or
Maine right.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
And I can't confirm.
But you know how California ispretty weird and they've gotten
rid of, like what they get ridof trapping, I think, and this
and that I can't say for sure,but they had a high bear
population well, no, not inCalifornia this is true.
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Because their cat population isout of control, they shut that
down too they shut down trappingand they're having a lot of
trouble with coyotes, bobcats,all these animals that should be
trapped, but they haven'tchanged that that I know of
right now.
But yeah, which state has thehighest number of black bears?
Speaker 4 (13:31):
what do you lean towards?
Speaker 3 (13:35):
oh, it's alaska or maine, I don't know.
I'm gonna say you go ahead andpick, because I don't know
alaska isn't alaska huge, though, okay, might.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
Maine's pretty small too.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
There's a lot of bear there.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
There's a lot of bear , because I know I'm just
thinking about the population ofBrunswick.
It's pretty high.
You go ahead and pick.
We're going to go with Alaska.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
You are going with the right one, boys.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Alaska, yep.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
It's the right one, boys.
Alaska, yep.
So who was saying, was it you,dalton?
How big it is?
Yeah, I mean, it's so big.
So Alaska is home to thelargest population of black
bears in the United States, withan estimated population of
about 100,000, found all overthe state, from coastal
rainforests to interiorwilderness areas.
You know what the neat thingabout the interior wilderness
(14:25):
areas is they're different fromthe exterior wilderness areas.
You know what the neat thingabout the interior wilderness
areas is they're different fromthe exterior wilderness areas.
The more you know.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
We'll take our point there, please.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
I was kind of surprised by that one sort of.
I had some other states in mind, because everyone thinks New
Jersey.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
New Jersey is a small state, though that would have
been my guess.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Kind of small, the Garden State yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
See, I was expecting Wyoming to be on that list so I
was like, oh, maybe if he saysWyoming then I'll just go with
that.
But everybody from the EastCoast to New Brunswick is going
to say Maine because that's whatthey know right there.
There's a lot of bears thereand then I think it's Alaska.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
You can legally shoot .
I think it's three black bear ayear, a season.
Yeah, they got a lot.
Well, they got the highestpopulation, All right.
So we are at Team Cubs lookingto get you guys on the board.
How long is a black bearpregnant?
Is it A, six months, B, sevenmonths, C, eight months?
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And yes, that's right, there'sno.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
D Don't look at me it would be the D was used to make
this question possible.
Speaker 5 (15:37):
Well, the rots in June.
How far into hibernation dothey actually?
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Oh nice, We've got some mathematicians over here.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
February, I think, don't they.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
The rots ruffling January.
Speaker 5 (15:51):
February so or are they fresh when they come out?
Speaker 2 (15:57):
I have no idea no, they'd be in the den for at
least a month, I would think,before they actually come out.
They come out pretty small sowhat are the answers?
Speaker 1 (16:05):
so 6 months, 7 months or 8 months or eight months
they're close together, so thiskept the question a little
harder.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Or 35 months, no, I'll just say seven, because
it's in the middle, put you inFebruary.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
I like your technique .
That's what I did in school.
Speaker 5 (16:24):
Okay, I didn't study for this one.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
This teacher is not that original.
Let's go with the middle onefor multiple choice.
Speaker 5 (16:32):
Yeah, seven sounds right.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Sounds right because Ben said it Sure Timeline.
Speaker 5 (16:37):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
So, yep, you guys are right.
So it is B around 220 days, soabout seven months.
The cubs are born blind, nearlyhairless and weigh under a
pound.
So the first part of it theylook like laying in the morning.
Nice boys, nice, I'm happy youguys are on the board.
You guys are on the board, allright.
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So this question here.
Remember, before we startedthis, I told you guys there's
going to be a question on herethat you're like huh, that's
surprising.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
Okay.
Told you guys, there's going tobe a question on here that
you're like huh, that'ssurprising.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Okay, that's good to know.
Okay, Okay, so we are in teamBoers.
The question what province orstate was the largest black bear
killed?
Was it A New Brunswick?
Speaker 4 (17:23):
B.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Maine, c North Carolina or D the Yukon?
What place had the largestblack bear killed?
Speaker 5 (17:34):
Is this in the world?
Speaker 1 (17:35):
This is.
I said province or state.
Speaker 5 (17:39):
Yes, but it's the biggest one shot in the world.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
It's the biggest one in the province or state in
North America.
Biggest one in North America.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
So Yukon makes sense to me, but it's supposed to be
something that's going to shockus.
I didn't say shock you.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
That's interesting.
I already know the answer, metoo.
Speaker 4 (18:02):
So I'm thinking it's going to be New Brunswick or
Maine.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Both very similar because they're next to each
other.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
But not that similar at all.
What's the other one, uconn?
Speaker 1 (18:14):
North Carolina.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
I feel like it's North Carolina.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
Honestly, you can choose for this one.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
Okay, north Carolina is our final answer.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Final answer yeah, final wrong answer.
Was it All right?
Look at these two cocky boysover here.
Speaker 5 (18:28):
They actually knew what is it.
It's New Brunswick it is.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
I'm not surprised I want to tell you though, dalton,
don't feel dumb because NorthCarolina when I was reading
before they actually are knownfor having pretty consistent
large bear taking.
Speaker 5 (18:43):
Like North Carolina, is a state that you can get some
big bears.
It's Fredericton Junction way,really.
In 1980-something, yeah,something like that.
It was 900-something pounds.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
If we were at a party and that was you saying
1980-something, frederictonJunction, you'd look pretty
smart.
But old Ken here has got theexact answer.
Ooh, so the biggest wild blackbear ever recorded was a male
from New Brunswick, canada, shotNovember 1972.
That weighed 409 kg, so around902 pounds.
(19:15):
After it had been dressed itmeasured 7 foot 11 inches long,
but the largest skull ever froma black bear that was found in
Utah but no one killed it.
But the largest skull ever froma black bear that was found in
Utah.
But no one killed it.
But that's the largest skullfound.
Was in Utah.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
Did they have a score on that bear?
Speaker 1 (19:34):
They did, and I didn't write it down.
Speaker 4 (19:36):
Oh.
So, We'll look that one uplater.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Yeah, that'd be interesting, yeah so the largest
skull was found in Utah.
So that was interesting, butyeah, the biggest one.
So that's when I was like, huh,that's interesting.
New Brunswick Yep In November1972.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
But yes, North Carolina is known to have like
really big swamp bears, Likeconsistent five 600 pound bears.
I don't know if they're cornfed or what it is.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Well, yeah, some of that Swamp, whatever they're
getting in the swamps too.
There's a lot of hound huntingthere too.
So I mean it's pretty wildlooking at something that big.
It's looking down at you if ittrees, all right, good,
interesting, right here that's abig black bear.
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Yeah, it's the biggest in theworld, all right.
So, team Cubs, you guys gotthat point.
This is your time.
So what temperature do mostexperts recommend to cook bear
meat at to avoid trichinosis?
And I don't have an A, b, c orD, because you guys are big boys
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.
You guys are just going to giveme a number.
So this is.
Some people have a lower numberor a higher number.
This is what most expertsrecommend and this is.
You know, you're pretty safe,you are safe with this.
You could have a lower numberand say you're pretty safe, but
this number here is safe If yousay 170, you'd be probably safe.
Speaker 5 (21:03):
I was always told 165 .
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Yeah somewhere in that area.
Speaker 5 (21:07):
That's the mark they try to hit internally.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
Right there I'd say so not all bears have it.
So pigs and bears mainly haveit.
Not all have it, but they saidto assume that all of them have
it in the meat and it's you knowit's worms, I think.
Yeah, because of what they eatand stuff, they're the ultimate
omnivores.
Did you know that pigs andbears are actually considered in
the same family omnivores?
(21:29):
I think?
Boars sows, yeah, cubs andpiglets is different, but yeah,
yeah.
So what temperature do mostexperts recommend Go?
Speaker 2 (21:41):
with 165.
Yeah, 165.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
You guys are very close, but you do not have it
right, Boys.
I'm going to give you a hint.
It's around what they said.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
So that's a good start.
The close kind of gave it away.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Beef was 175.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Oh, but you can eat beef raw 165.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Yeah, I do, but pretty well.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
I feel like it'd be.
They said 165.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
I don't know, I guessed wrong, so I'm going to
let you guess.
Jesse, give us your thoughtprocess A little bit over, a
little bit under.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Ooh, no pun intended.
Eh yeah, we're going to cookthis one medium, well or rare.
I'm going to tell you this tooit's an.
Give me an increment of fiveHigher or lower.
Is it 165?
, is it?
Speaker 4 (22:28):
170?
170.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
You guys said 165.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
You're going to go with 170?
.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
Yeah, that's what we're going to go with, okay.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Still went with the wrong one.
So the standard recommendationto be on the very safe side is
160 degrees Fahrenheit.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Confirm it with the thermometer and allow the meat
to rest for three minutes beforecutting.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
Next time I try to talk, just take the mic.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
I think it'd be even safer if you cook it to 170.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
We're very safety conscious over here it'd be
super safe if you burnt it at300, yeah if you cook it to
flame at 300 for 5 minutes, yeah, you won't get anything in the
meat.
But yeah, so people listeningthat don't know this.
Yeah, cook your damn bear meatif you're going to eat it, and
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bear meat's very good.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
It's the best meat I've ever had Very best.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Nice, Jesse Nice.
You don't get that a lot thebest meat I've ever had.
Speaker 4 (23:29):
It's hard to convince people that.
But Now spring bear I find fallAll bear I've only had spring.
Speaker 5 (23:34):
Very greasy.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
It's good.
A lot of people will compare itto beef, but most people don't
eat it.
So, Jess, are you saying that Ilike that.
Speaker 5 (23:40):
It is.
It's really good.
I fed it to people before andthey said it was great and they
didn't believe me.
It was bear meat.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
It's like eating a roast beef.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Yeah, there was a guy that I did a Euro for last
bears or anything.
Come in.
He said just let me know I wantthe bear meat.
Because he said it's very bad,he just loves it.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
Yeah, oh, yeah, yeah we have guys that, like some
people that come over the hunt,don't want to keep their bear
meat, and so we have other guysthat want the meat, and they
just take the meat after thehunt's done.
Speaker 1 (24:07):
Some people like well , you can only have it, it's
only good if you do it insausage or whatever.
Like no, we've done it.
Remember, lane, one time I shota bear, took it to your
parents' house when you guyswere living there.
We hung it up, skinned it andliterally cut the meat after
skinning it right from the bearonto the barbecue Delicious, we
didn't marinate it.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
this that Backstraps right on the barbecue Right on.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Yeah, it was really good.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
What we do every time we shoot a bear is take the
heart out and eat it that night.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
I haven't eaten.
Bear heart, amazing, that nightI haven't eaten bear heart.
Amazing.
Speaker 5 (24:36):
I've had deer heart.
I've had deer heart.
Yes, it was good.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Deer heart was very good yeah, I've not had bear
heart.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
You'll have to try it next time you shoot one.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
I will, I'll try it.
Yeah, do you cut it up the sameway as a deer heart?
Yep, kind of yeah.
Yeah just cook it on the whatyou don't want to do is get your
, um, your beef it's compared tobeef.
But you don't want to get thatmixed up, uh, with your bear
meat.
Imagine like, hey guys, I gotthis nice steak, so we're going
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to have them rare tonight.
Okay, get the flavor in there.
You look back like, oh, I mixedup the packaging.
Everyone's got trichinosis.
Now that that's a gift thatkeeps on giving forever because
you can't get rid of it.
So good side discussion.
But what?
Whose question is it?
(25:24):
Team Cubs?
Okay, we are tied at 2-1, whichisn't a tie.
So the question whichindigenous tool was historically
used to hunt bears beforefirearms were introduced?
Okay, was it A, the blowgun?
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B the sling.
C oh boy, the atlatl.
Or D, the bow and arrow.
Do not ask for an explanationof the atlatl.
I'm not sure what it is okay tobe honest, but I was looking it
up, that came up and I didn'tget into the research of it.
(26:08):
So what did the indigenoustools which is the name of
Lane's rock band historicallyused to hunt bears before
firearms were introduced, you?
Can see the historical toolsthis Thursday night at the pub
house.
I couldn't imagine you used ablowgun for a bear no.
Speaker 5 (26:30):
It'd be nice if I knew what that whatever you call
it was.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
I thought you did.
Speaker 5 (26:35):
No.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Doesn't everybody?
Speaker 5 (26:36):
No.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
Okay, so it's not just me, it's gotta be a bow and
arrow, I would guess.
There's some pretty wickedslings out there, not that I'm
telling you guys what to pick.
Speaker 5 (26:49):
I would guess bow and arrow, it's the only thing I
can think.
Alright, we'll go with bow andarrow.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
You guys are going with the right one, alright, the
bow and arrow.
The.
We'll go with bow and arrow.
You guys are going with theright one, all right, the bow
and arrow.
The indigenous use powerfulbows with heavy arrows tipped
with stone or bone to hunt bears.
So good, but I don't know whatthat other thing is.
But I know it's a real thing.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
I did not make that up.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Yeah, find out what it is.
Isn't it the Spell?
That for me, isn't it theatlatl or?
Speaker 1 (27:13):
A-T-L-A-T-L Adel, adel All right.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
Pretty sure it's a, if I'm not mistaken.
I don't know why I'm thinkingof this, but I think it's a
device that throws like a rock,isn't it?
Okay, who's got their?
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Maybe that's it we're going to Google it after this.
I'm going to look it up rightnow.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
Yeah, I think it's some kind of a.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
If Dalton's right with that, I'm definitely giving
you guys a point.
Oh, any guesses you watch it.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
It's a friggin' ceiling fan, right.
It's like the furthest thingfrom what I said.
Okay.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
An adol-adol, also known as a spear thrower or
spear throwing lever, is a toolthat uses leverage to throw
darts or spears with greatervelocity and distance.
Do you?
Speaker 5 (28:02):
have a picture.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
It essentially acts as an extension of the arm,
providing more force and rangecompared to a normal throw.
Holy shit, how did you knowthat?
Speaker 3 (28:11):
I don't know how I knew that.
I don't know where that camefrom.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
I have seen a picture of that.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
I think they hunt seals with them in Alaska.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
Yeah, I know, exactly what they're saying now that
they say that oh yeah, that'swhere I've seen them used before
.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Oh, and now you know, ben, exactly Now that it's been
said, and come up with Ofcourse I didn't know the name,
but I've seen those before, Ican picture it.
Yeah, we'll.
Oh, a natal ladle, according tomy calculations, is a spirit.
It's like what the fuck?
I couldn't even say it, right.
Speaker 5 (28:40):
All right, does that go back to us now?
Speaker 1 (28:42):
No.
Speaker 5 (28:42):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
That was just a bonus thing that Dalton threw it.
I can't not give a point tothat.
That was pretty smart.
Speaker 5 (28:48):
True.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
We're like however you say this, ataladi pronounced
it wrong and there's some guyyelling at a speaker man,
whatever you knew it, thatfucking idiot.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
So all right, team Bores.
Which sense is most developedin bears and is most crucial to
consider when hunting them?
Is it A their sight, b theirsmell or C their hearing?
Speaker 4 (29:19):
They have bad sight and they have pretty good smells
.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
What about the?
Speaker 4 (29:27):
hearing.
They hear pretty well as well.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
Yeah, I'm thinking the same way.
I don't know what the rightanswer is, but my guess would
have been smell.
But I don't know.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
I'm going with the nose, for sure.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
Well, Jesse, you're going with the right one.
Okay, Because a bear's sense ofsmell is incredible, many times
greater than a bloodhound's.
I can't say this for sure, butI think they have one of the
best sniffers in all the animalworld.
I know it's better than a deer.
A bear's nose is better than adeer.
Speaker 2 (29:58):
I heard on a podcast once I don't know which one it
was that they claimed a bearcould smell a bait from 10 miles
away.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Really, I think that would depend on a lot of stuff.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
It was actually like a radio-collared bear that went
straight line to a bait orsomething.
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
Pretty crazy.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
It might have been like a Dan Inful thing.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
I think that would depend on a lot of the terrain,
time of year, wind direction,all that.
But I do know that they have abetter nose than a deer.
Oh yeah definitely it's prettydamn good.
So, Jesse, you're saying theireyesight's bad.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
Yeah, they don't see very well.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
I've walked in on bears before and they look like
they're staring at you, but theydon't have a clue.
Speaker 4 (30:37):
You're there, no, really yeah, I know they had
small eyes.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Yeah, they definitely small eyes that's why they uh,
they stand up, though to get abetter look and all that.
Yeah, I know some people thinkit's like an aggression thing.
Do they ever stand up as anaggression thing with people, or
no?
They get well with aggressionyeah, it's just to get a better
view, or or smell or smell.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
Every time I've seen one up, they have their nose in
the air trying to sniff outwhat's in front of them
basically.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Yeah, and it's amazing how quiet they are too.
Very quiet, because I was toldthat bears think about every
single step they take.
You'd hear a deer coming intoyour stand long before you'd
hear a bear.
They just poof.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
Yeah, a bear can be like silent or they can make a
ton of noise like yeah want tobe quiet, they will be.
Yeah, must be.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
You know the pads right the pad cell, but still,
I've got some pretty paddedboots and you hear me crunching
through there like I'm walkingon a bag of chips that's because
you don't stop talking no, I'mcrunching lane, I'm crunching
okay.
so we actually are tied up forreal, this time at 3-3.
So, Team Cubs.
In medieval Europe, which partof the bear was often considered
(31:46):
a trophy and a symbol ofstrength?
Was it A the skull, B the paw,or C the hide, or D the claws?
So in medieval Europe, whichpart of the bear was considered
a trophy and a symbol ofstrength, what did those
Europeans like?
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Probably the claws.
Speaker 5 (32:14):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
That seems obvious.
Maybe it is.
Is that what we're going withboys?
Speaker 2 (32:25):
What do you think?
Speaker 5 (32:26):
Paws was the first thing that came to mind, Because
I don't remember where, butsomewhere overseas paws are a
delicacy to eat.
That's the first thing thatcame to my mind.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
That's a good thought process.
Is that what you're going with?
Speaker 5 (32:44):
No, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
I like the thought process.
Okay, that's good.
You're kind of like you'resounding out the answer if you
will Working it out, but if youhad to pick one, because you do.
Speaker 5 (32:59):
Yeah, I don't know, but if you had to pick one,
because you do.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
Why should it be obvious and meet a skull?
Speaker 1 (33:03):
Yeah, I don't know.
Why does the skull seem obviousover the claws?
Speaker 2 (33:07):
I'm just thinking claws.
Well, the prize here is a skull.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Here.
This is not medieval Europe,Keep in mind where this question
is being asked from.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
I'm thinking claws it's being asked by me based in
medieval Europe.
We'll go with claws.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
You're going with claws, yep.
Being asked from something inclause being asked by me,
necklace based in medieval.
Go with claws, yep.
Go with wrong answer.
Team bores, what are we?
So?
It's not the what'd you guyssay?
The clause?
Yeah, oh, that was right, I'mjust kidding, it's not.
I was paying attention, is itthe?
Speaker 4 (33:34):
skull, the paws or the hide?
I'm almost thinking it's thehide.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
That was my guess too .
If it's right, I have the hide.
That was my guess too.
If it's right, I have no idea,but that was my guess.
I figured it was one of thoselast two, but they eliminated
one for me.
But you go ahead.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
So if we're both thinking hide, we're going to go
with the hide.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Well, you guys should both think with somebody else
because you're wrong.
Okay, lane, it's the pause.
Why?
I really couldn't get a supergreat answer on that, but it is
the pause.
Yeah, when you were saying that, I was like, okay, yeah, should
go with that, should have.
And then you guys started goingoff on some weird tangent or
(34:11):
whatever in your heads and chosewrong.
But yeah, it's the pause and itmaybe has something to do with
the delicacy thing or it's justthe pause.
You know their big manly bearpaws.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
I'm not sure exactly, but but you'd think the claws
would be more of a sign ofstrength than the paws, right?
I think a bear paw is like akid's snack, right?
Speaker 1 (34:31):
But all bears.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
You know like they're in my cupboard right now.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
You would, you big bear, but no, but the bear.
I don't think they had the bearpaws back then, like we do now
they did, they just tastedifferent.
But the bear claws we think allbears have whatever claws, right
, but only some bears have thebig paws.
Yeah, maybe Medieval Europeans.
(34:54):
I've got to look more into that, but I know that's the answer.
Yeah, okay, so we're at youguys, and this is the tiebreaker
.
Why did you guys have to tie up?
Actually, because this is not agreat question to break the tie
.
Why did you guys have to dothat?
Alright, team Boars Question.
(35:15):
Is it best, when baiting bears,to limit bait to create
competition or load up everytime with the goods?
Jesse, as a bear guide, I'mreally counting on you to get
this right.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
Well, I always like to limit my bait to make
competition.
So, when I show up and put thebait in, bears want to come
right out.
That's my thought process onthat.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
I like that process.
Speaker 4 (35:41):
So that's what I have to go with, okay.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
I'm going to give you guys a little more to this
question.
This is what I wrote.
I wrote just the question why?
Because I'm going to decide whohas the best answer.
So this is a perfecttie-breaking answer, because I
knew you guys would tie up, okay.
Speaker 5 (36:02):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
So boys, cubs, Lane and Ben, what do you guys think?
And I'm going to go with thebest answer.
So actually, this worked outperfect.
Speaker 5 (36:15):
Well, you can put an answer on both, on both.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
Okay, that was stupid Lane Because well bear baiting
Well.
Speaker 5 (36:22):
I mean everyone's right.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
So you're saying we're right.
Speaker 5 (36:25):
No, but you also see, it's a double-edged sword.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
You just want to split the point no Split the
t-shirts See in my mind it'slike why wouldn't you just
overload it with baits so thatway they just keep coming back?
And as long as you keep it fullthey're going to keep coming
back, whereas Joe Blow down theroad that baits once, maybe
every 10 days.
Bears will be there for acouple of days and they'll mosey
.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
Well, that seems excessive.
Let's not say 10 days.
Let's say we're going to say,even if it was only four or five
days, okay, four, we'll sayfour.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Limiting bait they go in, whereas if your barrel has
something in it every day untilyou go back and bait it to top
it, off.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
But do you think, if you say you're going there every
day, should you limit it, sothat way the bear's got to come
right in.
Speaker 5 (37:08):
We also don't need to go every day if you're filling
the barrel.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
Right.
Speaker 5 (37:12):
It'd be more efficient to go every two or
three days.
That also cuts back onintrusion on them too.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
They're filling it every day, yeah it is more
efficient to go every two orthree, depending on what you do
for work if you're a full-timeguide during that part of the
season.
Speaker 5 (37:25):
Because they say if a bear comes into a bait and it's
gone they will move off to adifferent food source.
Speaker 4 (37:37):
Jesse, you guide any.
When I hunt bear, I bait thesame time every day day, so that
way the bears are on the samepattern I am.
They know I come in at fiveo'clock.
They're going to be there atthat time, so that's why I limit
my bait.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
I could see that if it's an established bait,
because I know people that willeither bang a barrel or they'll
hear their vehicle pull oh yeah,you're on the tailgate if
they're trained to that, then ofcourse, but not everyone can go
to the same bait at 5 o'clockevery day.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
Yes, that's very difficult to do.
Kudos, Jesse.
Speaker 5 (38:04):
People have jobs and kids.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
No offense, Jesse.
Unemployed kids?
No, he works, he takes offtheir season and you're a
stepdad, so I see both sidesthough?
Okay, but like I said, is itbetter to put a bid in and
create competition, or oh, wegot the?
Well, I'm kind of an expert, soyeah, because dalton's been
(38:29):
going into your guys's bear baityeah, that's what I do.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
Yeah, that's right.
Lane, get those twizzlers mydays off.
That's what I do going tolane's bear bait um get snacks
for work that week but wouldn'tyou want to create a little bit
of competition, because aren'tyou trying to kill a bigger bear
, not just any bear, I don'tknow.
That's all I'm going to say.
Thanks.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
Okay, nice, I like it .
So what are we going with?
I know what you guys are goingwith Lane and Ben.
You guys can't go answer.
Speaker 5 (39:01):
I'm going to go fill it up, because that's what I do,
you guys going in how oftenRoughly I run cell cameras.
I wait until the bait's empty.
Okay, it also helps withintrusion, so I don't have to go
in there for four or five days.
And gas isn't cheap Okay.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
Neither is time no.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
Alright, some philosophers over here.
So for the tiebreaker, I'mgoing to go with no.
Alright, some philosophers overhere.
So for the tiebreaker, I'mgonna go with drumroll.
Please, drumroll, just kidding,you got it.
No, that's pretty good, boys.
Thanks, I'm gonna go with teamBoars.
I like the idea of creatingthat competition, because the
(39:37):
bear will be able to smell, theyknow that the bait is there and
they better get their asses inthere if they want it, and I
like both you guys' explanationsto it.
I see the other side too, and Idon't know if there is a right
or wrong answer to this.
Somebody listening to this willsay well, it's that one, it's
definitely Team Cubs, or it'sthat one, it's definitely Team
Boars.
And somebody that knows just asmuch as that person saying that
(39:59):
will probably say the opposite.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
We knew you'd make the right choice.
I made a choice.
We had faith.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
That was right.
So, yeah, All right, don't goto reassure me of my decisions.
No, boys, thanks for playingand I hope that you learned
something.
The New Brunswick, the biggestbear in the world, that was the
one, like I said that really Iwas like, wow, that's neat.
Yeah, but yeah, Pretty cool toknow In Alaska.
I did not know that Alaska,with all the grizzly bears and
stuff that they have there aswell, had the most black bear.
(40:25):
That kind of surprised me.
Speaker 5 (40:27):
There are mostly brown bears in Alaska, by the
way.
There's what it's mostly brownbears.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
Yeah, well, other bears?
Okay, how about that?
I knew that they had more thanone bear species there, so I
didn't think that they had themost black bears.
The questions weren't aboutbrown bears or anything,
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