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So you want to outgrow porn. But how? How do you change your brain, heal your heart, and save your relationship? Welcome to Husband Material with Drew Boa, where we answer all these questions and more! Each episode will help you achieve lasting freedom from porn more quickly and permanently—without fighting an exhausting battle. Porn is a pacifier. This podcast will help you outgrow it and become a sexually healthy man of God.


August 8, 2022 35 min

How do you discover the deeper roots underneath surface-level sexual symptoms? Josh Glaser guides us in "tracking the heart," revealing where unwanted thoughts, feelings, and behaviors come from.

Josh Glaser is the Executive Director of Regeneration, a Christ-centered ministry equipping men and women to live God’s good, holy, and beautiful design for relationships and sexuality. He is the creator of Awaken, an online communi...

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What should sex education look like in today's world? Adam and Karissa King explain why parents must teach children about sexuality from a young age—and how to make these conversations easy, effective, and even fun.

Adam + Karissa King are a licensed coach/therapist team and the founders of Dear Young Married Couple. They understand the pressure Christian parents feel to give their kids a godly understanding of sexuality. Th...

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Are you frustrated by internal conflict? Tired of being overwhelmed by thoughts and feelings? Kim Miller explains a Christ-centered approach to internal family systems (IFS). You'll learn the 5 steps of "taking a you-turn" so every part of you can encounter Jesus and be led by your Spirit-led self.

Kim Miller (MTh, LMFT) is a speaker, retreat leader, and co-author of Boundaries For Your Soul. She’s certified in Internal ...

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July 18, 2022 26 min

N is for Ninety Days
O is for Outgrow
P is for Plasticity
Q is for Questions
R is for Redemptive Risk
S is for Supernormal Stimuli
T is for Trauma & Traumasexuality
U is for Unwanted & Unwanted Workbook
V is for Vagus Nerve & Polyvagal Theory
W is for Worship (special playlist)
X is for Ex- (example breakup letter)
Y is for Yes!
Z is for Zero

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July 11, 2022 25 min

In this episode, you'll learn 13 key concepts for outgrowing porn based on the first 13 letters of the alphabet. Check out the list below for further information about each key concept (including paid links):

A is for Alexithymia
B is for Breathing
C is for Co-regulation
D is for Dopamine
E is for Eroticized
F is for Fathering
G is for Group
H is for Holistic
I is for IFS
J is for Journey
K is for Knowledge
L is for Lust & Love
M is for...

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How do I know if I was neglected? And what can I do about it? Stephen Thomas unpacks 6 types of neglect, why neglect fuels shame and addiction, and what we can do as we recognize ways we have been neglected.

Stephen Thomas is a husband and father who has enjoyed freedom from porn and hookup culture for over 13 years. He is a Certified Husband Material Coach who provides coaching for individuals, couples, and groups. Stephen is passi...

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Heartache has a pattern, and so does healing. Author and therapist Cathy Loerzel explains the 3 types of heartache, and a powerful path to healing for each one. Learn how your past has uniquely prepared you to experience more joy.

Cathy Loerzel founded the Allender Center with Dr. Dan Allender in 2010.
Together with Dan, she is the co-author of Redeeming Heartache: How Past Suffering Reveals True Calling (this is a paid link).


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June 20, 2022 17 min

What is intimacy? How can I find it? Most intimacy is not sexual. Most intimacy is spiritual, social, emotional, mental, and physical. Learn why each type of intimacy matters, and how to experience each one without sex or porn.

Resources mentioned in this episode:

  • Man Cards, by Drew Boa and Henry Brown
  • The Feeling Wheel, by Gloria Wilcox
  • The Eight Feelings, by Chip Dodd
  • Husband Material Community
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    Men are lonely. How can we develop deeper friendships?  Introducing Man Cards: a card deck of conversation starters for men designed by Drew Boa and Henry Brown. In this episode, Drew and Henry introduce Man Cards and show you how to use them.

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    Man Cards make it easier for men to go deep. Inside are 52 questions of varying levels of vulnerability to help you and the men around you be fully kno...

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    You'll never outgrow porn if you believe it's the problem. In this episode, Matt Dobschuetz explains why porn is a solution, and the surprising reason why one particular type of porn has appealed to him. This man overflows with kindness and hope!

    Matt Dobschuetz is the host of Porn Free Radio, the top-rated podcast for motivated guys who want to quit looking at porn. Matt is a diehard Chicago Bears fan, a coffee enthusiast, ...

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    Do you ever wish your friends lived closer? In today's world, long distance friendship is more possible and pervasive than ever. What are the blessings and drawbacks of this? In this episode, Husband Material coaches talk about how to maximize authentic connection, both long distance and locally.

    Join us for a weekend of beauty and brotherhood at the Husband Material Retreat in Santa Barbara (September 9-13, 2022). Sign up for t...

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    What is emotional maturity? How can we increase our emotional intelligence? In this episode, Dr. Eddie Capparucci explains the three components of emotional maturity, why men struggle to love, and what we can do about it.

    Dr. Eddie Capparucci is an author and therapist who specializes in the treatment of sex and porn addiction. He's the creator of the Inner Child Recovery Process (ICRP) and the author of a new book: Why Men Stru...

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    What is the difference between sexual arousal and sexual desire, and why does it matter? In this episode, Dr. Doug Carpenter powerfully explains this concept and why it is absolutely essential for outgrowing porn.

    This episode is taken from our new course on Healing From Sexual Abuse

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  • How To Interpret Sexual Fantasies
  • What Should I Do With My Sexual Desire...
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    Let me help you decide if “counting the days” is right for you. In this episode, you'll learn 2 bad reasons to count, 3 good reasons to count, and what works for me...

    2 bad reasons: Legalism & License 

    3 good reasons: Celebration, Compassion, & Curiosity 

    What works for me? Listen to this episode to find out 😉 

    If you loved this episode, you will probably love my book, Redeemed Sexuality. Buy it here (this is a pai...

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    What is centering prayer? How can it help us when we're triggered or preoccupied? In this episode, Matthew Lyda explains the 4 Rs of centering prayer: 

  • Resist no thought 
  • Retain no thought 
  • React to no thought 
  • Return to God

  • Matthew Lyda is a Pastoral Sex Addiction Professional and a poet. He is the author of Recover The Wild: Unfiltered Poems And Prayers (paid link). Matthew is also trained as a mental health & life purpose coa...

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    How does the gospel interact with trauma? In this episode, Matt Wenger explains a Christ-centered and clinically innovative approach to healing trauma and outgrowing pornography.

    Matt Wenger is the clinical director of Boulder Recovery, a 14-day intensive for men struggling with sex, porn, and relationship issues and their impact on faith. The program uses the TINSA treatment model (Trauma-Induced Sexual Addiction) to heal the traum...

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    What if you could become a loving older brother to your inner child? In this episode, you'll discover how to do this through Older Brother Coaching. 

    Older Brother Coaching is my unique approach to healing the inner child, which has led to hundreds of breakthroughs for Christian men outgrowing porn. In this episode, you'll learn the three steps of Older Brother Coaching. Then at the end, I'll lead you through a guided me...

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    What if being reported for criminal sexual activity can be a blessing? In this episode, Rich Moore explains how being reported saved his life and propelled him into healing. Rich also reveals how to know if you should report yourself or someone else to local authorities.

    Rich Moore is the Associate Director of Men's Groups for Pure Desire Ministries, and a certified Pastoral Sex Addiction Professional (PSAP). Rich has been invol...

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    What is racial trauma? How does it affect us all, and what does healing look like? In this episode, Sheila Wise Rowe shares insights and stories about how racial trauma can be healed.

    Sheila Wise Rowe is a truth-teller who writes passionately about matters of faith and emotional healing. She advocates for the dignity, rights, and healing of abuse survivors, those carrying racial trauma, and racial (re)conciliation. Sheila is the aut...

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    March 28, 2022 19 min

    If you’re not attracted to typical porn, have you ever wondered why? In this episode, I explore the roots of my negative association with female sexual parts due to purity culture, parents, peers, princesses, and porn.

    Books about sex and purity culture (paid links):

  • A Celebration Of Sex, by Dr. Doug Rosenau
  • The Gift Of Sex, by Clifford And Joyce Penner
  • Talking Back To Purity Culture, by Rachel Joy Welcher
  • To understand how purity cultu...

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