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November 26, 2025 44 mins

The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City meet for lunch after Mary’s church service, hoping Meredith will finally take accountability for the chaos on the plane—but she’s not budging. Tensions rise as Meredith directs most of her fury toward Whitney and Heather.


(Season 6, Episode 11)


Meanwhile, Heather ceremoniously parts ways with her “marital mattress,” and Whitney speculates about Meredith’s drinking. Britani and her daughter open up in therapy, while Bronwyn shares an emotional moment with both her mother and daughter. By the end of the day, Britani and Meredith manage to clear the air and apologize to one another.


Geoff talks about his new Invisalign and we delight in being off and preparing for Thanksgiving.

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(00:15):
Welcome to another episode of Husbands Watching Housewives.
I'm Scott. And I'm John.
And we just watched an episode of The Real Housewives of Salt
Lake City. Episode 11 to last.
Apparently that's crazy. That means we're more than
halfway through the season, doesn't it?
Usually he's got 20 episodes, including the reunion.
That's true. So roughly, yeah.
Yeah, that's absolutely crazy, that is.
So the good news is we are done with work for the week.

(00:38):
However, that means we have a lot of Thanksgiving to get ready
for. I know.
So there's a lot going on and ontop of that, you had yourself an
exciting day. Why don't you tell us about it?
I wouldn't say exciting. It was definitely different.
So yeah, I don't know if I sounddifferent.
It's hard to say S S. I'm noticing it now and and the

(01:01):
the natural dickhead inside of me is having a hard time not
making fun of you. This is a lazy face.
I know right now you're earlier,you're doing good with it, but
go. Ahead, I know.
Yeah. So basically I got an Invisalign
today and it was definitely morethan I thought it would be with
the whole gluing on the composites and like, you know,

(01:22):
just like clicking everything inplace.
And it was very, very sore. Still am sore.
And as you can hear it, I sound a bit different.
So it was definitely like, oh, this is my experience.
And, you know, I'm sure it'll get better as I get more used to
it. But, like, right now, my mouth
is sore, my jaw is sore, and I'mjust, you know, another 14

(01:44):
months of this. Yeah.
Again, I don't think you sound all that different.
I mean, I can hear it here and there where, I mean, you sound
more congested than you do, you know?
Yeah, unable to speak. So yeah, I mean, for now, I
don't notice it being terribly different.
There's times where like you've said a few things where like, I
can tell it's easier for you to just to drop part of the word
than to finish saying it. So, but not like either one of

(02:06):
us is extremely articulate, you know, and and make sure we don't
enunciate well, especially when we're doing the podcast
sometimes. I'm trying to like enunciate
better. Yeah.
So yeah. So it's like it's just day one
and we'll see how it goes. But yes, obviously if you watch
our YouTube videos, you can see that I have a gap between my 2

(02:28):
front teeth and it's like I've always had and I just never got
braces as a child and I've just always been like sometimes
indifferent, sometimes really focused on it.
And I think recently I became very hyper focused on it.
And, you know, it's just dumb because I've looked like this my
entire life. And, you know, I know I'm a
decent looking person and, you know, you're not like your

(02:50):
parents. I'm not that vain.
But it's something that's been bothering me the the gap.
And so I was like, I, I don't want to do braces.
Veneers are scary and expensive.And so I decided to do the
Invisalign and I found a great orthodontist here in town.
And, you know, we'll just, you know, see how that works.

(03:10):
But yeah, I don't expect, you know, I just want to look
better, Not that I don't look good right now.
And but it's really mainly for me.
And, you know, again, being hyper focused about it, being
made fun of it, you know, in thepast and like also being really
aware now seeing myself on YouTube, I'm like, oh, the gap,

(03:32):
the gap, the gap is just like just so focused on it.
So yeah, as soon as you you know, just to do to feel better
about myself, but of course, youknow a lot of that it you know
this comes from the inside and so goodness you're getting.
I know, I know, sorry, like all deep about but like did.
You go to therapy with Brittany and her daughter.
I should. Discuss all of this.

(03:53):
I should but yeah, like not to be all deep about it, but it
that's how it should be. You know, it's like you are not
your appearance. You know, it doesn't determine
myself worth whether or not I have a gap between my 2 front
teeth. It's just something, you know,
it's just something just to feel, to feel good about, you
know, I don't know what I'm saying.
It's yeah, absolutely. Self improvement, self-care.

(04:14):
Exactly. You know.
So yeah, you know, we'll do it before and after.
And and I still think you're cute with or without the gap.
Thank you. So yeah, again, yeah.
It's like I was like the person that I love the most, like
doesn't care. But yeah, I think it's just
really. Yeah, I mean, there's about 100
other things I'd fix about you before the gap in your teeth,
but you know, we'll have to takethose as they come.

(04:36):
It's not fix, it's. Sorry, right.
Nothing is broken. Right.
Well, but you know, I don't know, fix and repair have so
much more connotation. Well, I'm not saying repair
either. I know, but.
Improve. It's going to.
Improving my smile. It's going, sorry, that just

(04:56):
seems like a like a definite, like not a stretch, but definite
justification I guess. But anyway, I believe that it is
going to eliminate the gap in your teeth.
That's what that's doing. Stop usurping my narrative,
Scott. You know you gave up your option
to be upset about that, but no kidding.
Your feelings are no longer on the table.

(05:17):
Anymore, you can't be the victimnow because you've been a bitch.
That's basically what Heather said at that lunch.
But anyway, no, I mean, I'm looking forward to this
happening. I, you know, can't I need to get
my teeth done because I have these tiny ass teeth and that
look like little, you know, gravestones in there and I grind

(05:38):
the hell out of my teeth. So I, you know, I need to get
that done. But because of that, I can't
just have Invisalign. At least that's what that one
dentist told me. I grind too.
No, but like, because my mind isso strong, like the grinding
that I do that like they said that I would actually have to
have full on braces to fix my bite and everything.
And then I'm still grinding and I still have the chance of, you
know, giving myself donkey mouthor my teeth just go straight out

(06:01):
from my face. So yeah.
So when we're done with your teeth, we'll get mine done.
Yeah, though this is a expensiveexpenditure.
Yes. But you know, I might actually
have, I might actually have to get veneers.
So that's what they told me. Get this all done and then have
veneers put on to make it all right.
So I bite correctly, all that fun stuff.
I remember my mom was alive. She would always say I should

(06:22):
just buy you veneers. I was like, yes, do it.
And now that I know how expensive they are, I really
regret that she never did. But.
When they you grind those two. Well, that's The thing is that
you get everything fixed and then, you know, ready for
veneers. Yeah, if I got veneers right
now, they they've told me that Iwould just pop them right off.
Oh my God. Like I would just grind them and
they would just like pop off like popcorn right on a minute.

(06:45):
How do you swell teeth then if you're doing such heavy
grinding? If you were in this mouth the
way that I am, you would know that I have very flat teeth in
places that I should not. So anyway, welcome to our dental
podcast. Oh no.
Gosh. In case we should have led with
it as well. We are two husbands, each
other's husbands, and we watch all the Housewives shows and we

(07:07):
don't recap them. We just talk about how they made
us feel. And sometimes that involves a
little bit of a recap just so weremember where the hell we were,
right? But in this case, we were in
Salt Lake, and are we ready to move on?
Sweetheart. I'm happy to talk about
whatever. No, I talk about my teeth so
long so. So I'll keep you updated as

(07:28):
these as this closes in. Yeah, I can't imagine.
Last thing I'll say, I couldn't imagine having and that's why I
didn't go immediately jump towards getting braces.
I couldn't imagine having tooth soreness or mouth soreness the
way that braces give it to you. And that's what you're
experiencing here on day one. So sure.
So lots of lots of Advil and other.
Soft foods. Soft, yeah.

(07:50):
And lots of spaghetti in my future.
God, if only you like yogurt, you can have yogurt.
Oh man. I guess soup is on our agenda.
Well also it makes me like not want to eat as much or not snack
as much. So, you know, like put the chips
down, man. Oh yeah, that'll be easier not
having nobody ink those out anyway.
Salt. Lake Salt Lake City.

(08:11):
Started out. And it was post Mary's Church
church service. Mainly from the church to that
restaurant. Vaulters.
Vaulters. Yeah, I do remember.
Yes, the Met Gala they had thereon very on.
I've read the whole story about how the village died.
Yeah, 5400 people died. It made the best scrapes ever.

(08:34):
Really like how should you like rattle that off?
Which was crazy. Anyway, so basically like she's
gathered. I went in a route together minus
Brittany, who I'm glad she gave a heads up.
I'm not going to invite you because you said I was not
Christ like. And Brittany apologized and said
they're good now, right? And even Mary explained that to
the group and was just like, youknow, even though she
apologized, I still didn't invite her.

(08:57):
She's still not here. But you know, we're in a good.
Place told me not to. Yeah, right.
I didn't get a sign from my dog.No pause.
We even know Mary had a dog and don't know.
I don't think Mary would be personally would have a dog
because Laura knows Mary ain't picking up no poop.
Right. So it makes me think it's Robert
Junior's dog. Yes.
And you know. Robert Senior's dog.
Oh, true, but as it can be, whenyou know your child has an

(09:20):
animal, it becomes your child, or your animal rather.
Also, we see more of that dog inthis one episode than we have
Robert Senior in a couple seasons.
That's true, but I think that's by design, yes.
So, Roxy. I do love dogs.
I cute dogs. I don't like wrinkly dogs.
I don't like hairy. I don't like wrinkly dogs.

(09:40):
No. Yeah.
I mean, I don't have anything against them.
Like, I'm not gonna be like, you're not a dog, you know?
I slap. Yeah.
No, I never slap a dog except onthe butt.
I'd like slap that butt real hard.
Like smack, smack, smack. But dogs need their butts
smacked. They do some sort of cats.
But anyway, yeah, I don't like ring.
I don't like the the Bulldogs and the drooly ones.

(10:02):
And I like I like a good fluffy dog.
I don't like terriers with theirlittle wiry hair and all that
stuff. And I like.
Wiry hair either, no so. So, yeah, but I mean, as far as
Bulldogs go, that was a cute dog.
That was a cute. Dog that was a cute dog.
So basically it went from like alittle gathering for lunch to
like an intervention or come to Jesus moment for Meredith and

(10:23):
she was not biting I think. That was the thing that was
frustrating everyone the most. And it's just that like,
Meredith would not accept or admit to the fact that she did
anything unright, sightly, or unseeming.
Is that the word unseemingly? Either one either.
One and she was just like I was just venting to my friend.
Or maybe 1538 minutes like she was sticking to that story.

(10:46):
I vented for a very short amountof time.
Then I watched 2 movies and fellasleep.
And I love that Heather said. Which movies?
And we got a whole diatribe about like Crazy rich Asians,
right? Which how have you not seen that
that came out like 4 years ago You.
Know like that was like. Pre COVID like.
For someone yeah, yeah, that wasyeah, yeah.

(11:09):
If someone asks me how Crazy Rich Asians ended right now,
having not seen it since it originally came out in theaters,
I'd have no clue. But that's.
Five years versus like like a. Week right exactly and so I did
like that I and then Lisa was able to rattle it off that was
cute production putting all the check marks yes and then no that
didn't happen I. Know and then they're on a plane

(11:31):
I mean that. Just goes to show that Lisa
Lisa's so ready to just be like,look, if you know, like pick me,
pick me, I'm good, I can do good.
Give me a Gold Star. Lisa.
But I do, I do like that Heatherjust said it like it was and was
like, I don't think that you, Meredith, have any room to
complain right now. Like what you did to Brittany

(11:52):
was so bad that however you werefeeling up until then is
completely irrelevant because you went off the deep end,
Heather. Stuck to her guns and she was
very like, you know, I'm not trying to beat up on you.
I'm saying this is what happened.
This is myself, my own eyes, Whitney, and you know, Mary and
even Angie can back me up on that.

(12:13):
And so I just want you to just admit that you did these things
and Meredith would not give themanything except for like, I'm
sorry that she overheard me. Not I'm sorry that like, I was
yelling at this woman like, 'cause that's what you were
doing. And the fact that they were all
like, it was going on and on andon.
And she was like, no, no, no, that didn't happen.
I think that Whitney was saying the quiet part out loud being

(12:35):
that I'm concerned. Mary was concerned, but she
didn't take it a step forward that Whitney did by saying I
think you just had too much alcohol.
Maybe, well, it took. Or you had too much rage, or it
took. Bronwyn having told that to
Meredith at lunch yeah, for thatto really start coming out,
which I don't know why this whole I don't you're so.

(12:56):
Butthurt about that? Yeah, I don't know.
Why? Like, I mean, also she could
have corrected Bronwyn in the telling of it.
Cause also what you what they showed Bronwyn saying to
Meredith wasn't all that inflammatory.
It's not like Bronwyn was saying, yeah, and then Whitney
thinks you're a lush. You know?
Exactly, Exactly. It was just saying that Whitney
says she saw you drinking beforehand, she saw you drinking
on the plane and like said that maybe, you know, you might be da

(13:20):
da da, but you know, Meredith, everyone, not just Meredith,
always wants to make you know, mountain out of multi gays.
Yeah, like she was on camera saying I, you know what he's
saying that like, you know, I don't think she remembers.
But never, it didn't get to the point where, you know, she's a
raging alcoholic and she blackedout and, you know, she tried to
kill Brittany. Like, that's not what she said.

(13:41):
Yeah, and I mean also, but you're right, I mean, Whitney's
alluding to the thing that, you know, I think the fandom
suspects is the case that there was some alcohol and pills being
mixed a mix. Of things, yeah, I.
Mean there are ways to I mean, Ithink saying you might have had
some pills and had some drinks and they didn't interact well,
that's the way to say it. But they just immediately like

(14:02):
because Meredith was all pissy about it.
Like drugs, you know, it's like,I'm not saying like you're a
main license. You were mainlining heroin.
What, drinking Chablis, you know, it wasn't martini and
martini and Razzi and, you know,black tar heroin, you know, So
you know, it's just some pills, you know, which again, Meredith
has admitted to having or takingin the past, you know, So it's

(14:26):
not a huge stretch it really. Isn't it isn't.
And I don't think she was sayingit was malicious intense either,
you know, no. I mean, yeah, I mean, I don't
think I'm malicious, but I thinkit's a hard thing to kind of, I
think. She's just so shocked that
Meredith is so sticking to the story of like doing nothing
wrong. And it's it's it's mind

(14:48):
boggling. And she's been to that to
Bronwyn. And I don't I don't think
Bronwyn also wasn't carrying it back to her like in a well, you
heard what you know, it's just it wasn't like that.
And so I'm I'm sure they'll get past it because I like Whitney
and Ronwyn together. I love that mode they they
shared 2 episodes ago and I just.

(15:09):
It shouldn't be a deal I also think.
Any of, of anyone you know, I'm sure Whitney has mixed some
pills and some alcohol Once Upona time, I mean.
It we all could have done it, ithappens.
To the best of people. So, you know, also I so I don't
think that Meredith, I'm sorry that Whitney is, you know,
judging Meredith for it. And she's just kind of hung on
the fact that Meredith won't admit that that could have

(15:31):
happened or even gotten ahead ofit and said, OK, I had too much
to drink, you know, and just left it at that, you know, but
she was. So, you know, it can be
embarrassing when you black out.But again, if you do black out,
you can just often times you'd be like, yeah, that sounds like
something I might have done. Right.
It's not. You know, I was so angry at

(15:51):
Britney and it just came out. But she's not, she's not copping
to it. So even at the end, she doesn't
cop to it. But we'll, we'll get right.
So then I mean other they go round and.
Round and like don't get anywhere I mean they.
Lisa and. I was surprised by by Lisa being
so not Lisa. Like not.

(16:14):
Argumentative. Yes.
When things kind of got thrown in her court, yes.
And she even like she was even tiptoeing to like, you know, you
were upset Meredith, but she wouldn't completely take.
She wouldn't jump on board. It wasn't a pile on.
But you know, she I guess maybe because it was merely not about
her. And this is the one time I wish
they would like would stop trying to bring Lisa into it.

(16:36):
Like when Heather said that, youknow, she thinks that Brittany
thinks that you are just as culpable.
Like, no, no, no, no, no. It's not that.
It's not like that. Yeah, there were a.
Couple times where though, whereI think Lisa, like was brought
into it and she was going to saylike defend herself, but then
someone spoke over. I think Whitney butted in at one
point, like, oh, I would have actually been interested in

(16:56):
hearing what Lisa had to say because I think you're right.
She wasn't being so defensive and kind of all over the place
with it. But that ship had sailed.
Yeah, back to Meredith. Well then.
They gossiped later on about it.She had Meredith and basically
it's like my note for that was like, they think everyone's
wrong except for them, so. Getting their nails done.

(17:18):
That's a weird one. And.
That boot she still has. Yeah, yeah.
So what happened after the the lunch?
It was. Meredith.
Sorry, Heather and her commercial.
Oh, her Wayfair. Commercial, yes, Yeah, it
almost. Makes you want to buy some
wayfarer I mean. I Some of these things in this

(17:40):
house are wayfarer, but I stopped this is.
HomeGoods, right? I don't.
Know that might be weird. No, because Wayfarer used to be
a reasonable deal. Like honest to God, I guess, you
know, I like their stuff, but itused to be kind of discounty and
now like you can get a, you can spend a pretty penny at Wayfair.
And really what you're getting is, in my opinion, kind of a

(18:00):
HomeGoods situation. So it's not necessarily the best
deal anymore. It hasn't been for a couple of
years, but you know, maybe they've pivoted their their
standards without me noticing because I haven't been buying
furniture. You know, every year of my life,
right? It was.
Just so funny in the whole when her daughters came home and
they're like, where did you get this stuff, Mom?
Wayfair Daughter, yeah. I mean, I because just because

(18:22):
she's, you know, so sponsored atBravo Con for it, I was like,
she's the same Wayfair. You could not.
Escape Wayfair Bravo con could not.
Everywhere. The armoire in the guest
bedroom. That's from Wayfair.
I bought that. The one that oh.
Really. That's from Yeah, Yeah.
Was that after we were dating? Yeah, I was.
I got that while we were dating.Yeah, yeah, yeah.

(18:42):
But yeah, I so paint that thing because I went a little too nuts
with the nails on one portion. Oh.
Right spaced it out. Enough.
And every time I look at the back of it, which isn't often,
luckily, I was like, you're an idiot, why did you put it
together like that? Well, we're going to.
Get rid of it yeah, it's also a little rickety because because I

(19:02):
didn't put nail it correctly it's a little wobbly but anyway,
neither here nor there. My thing, and I mentioned it to
you while we're watching, is that the house that Heather
lives in now, though grand looksmore like a family home than it
does like I'm a, you know, emptynest.
Like I know she upgraded a couple seasons ago.
Or is it just this season ship? There's a couple seasons.

(19:24):
She bought that house. Yeah, it just.
Seems too ordinary looking like you know what I mean?
It just seems like a a very respectable family home in Utah.
And then to find out that the kids aren't even living there.
And then she's got all this extra space.
I guess with the pool being doneand everything, it'll be nice.
I'm sure it's nice, right? It just doesn't.

(19:44):
It doesn't scream Heather Gay tome.
I don't know. What would we?
Really haven't seen it all in its totality though, so yeah,
'cause. It just, it's giving me like I
expect that house to be a New Jersey Housewives house.
I can see that so. And I don't expect her to have
like a, you know, Angie monstrosity with the, you know,
white everywhere and walls and the.

(20:04):
Angles and the that's like modern modern.
And I don't need her to have Whitney's farmhouse sheet, but I
don't know. Farmhouse.
I feel like something after. Watching Mormon Wives.
I'm so over farmhouse. OH.
Yeah, freaking farmhouse. Yeah, I've never really been a
big, huge fan of the farmhouse aesthetic.
It's. Too much.
It's also like all over Beverly Hills, so.

(20:26):
I'm just, I'm curious from a design perspective, at what
year, what year can we live in where we're gonna look back at
it and go farmhouse like our 2020?
5 I think. We're getting there, yeah.
But I don't, I think it'll be, Idon't think it'll be fully like
eye rolling passe for like another couple of years.
I still want to know if it's OK to paint our doors a dark color

(20:49):
or if that will be lumped in with the farmhouse aesthetic.
I feel like. That should be sailed.
I don't know. I don't.
I don't want to be the black, no.
I don't think black, but I thinklike a darker, like a grey or
that green kind of color that was kind of cute.
So we'll, we'll discuss. I'll do it when you're at work
one day. No, you'll come.

(21:09):
You'll be like, why does there, why does the house smell like
fresh paint? I'm like I had it painted so.
Yeah, I know. It's like, let me walk out the
front door and take these cats with me.
Whatever you're you're hurt teeth you you need to lay down
I. Do need to lay down so that way
Whitney. With EU Haul that was not

(21:30):
necessary for them to have that giant U-Haul for her.
Marital bed? Yeah, that's really crazy.
She's had that same mattress forlike 20 some odd years.
Like it's as old as her daughters, that is.
Weird, you're supposed to replace her mattress I think
every 10 years. Yeah.
I think 15 on the outside, so that must have been a really
uncomfortable mattress. Like it didn't.
It's not like they didn't have the money too.

(21:51):
I'm. Also confused why I realized
also when she's like. I at birth 3 babies.
Did you have them on this mattress?
Are those the same? Or they might have?
Been conceived on that mattress.Oh, I don't understand why they
had to go deliver the mattress anywhere.
Because when you buy a new mattress, they'll take, I mean
this sleep train. Do they not have the same deal
in Utah? Is it illegal in Utah to like

(22:12):
perhaps take people's old mattresses?
I don't understand. But like, I would never if I
didn't have to just arrange to have my mattress taken
somewhere. I was just like, hey, I bought a
new one, take it away. But they.
Need the dramatic effect, I know.
Right. That's why it made me think that
they're just doing that for for something to do on the show of.
Course either of that. Let's go to the.
Mattress place either that. Or I'm flexing my my mattress

(22:34):
privilege right now. I don't think it's like that
must wear privilege. I think it's like a common
thing, right? Right, unless you're her next
mattress is gonna be one of those like Casper like inflated
mattresses that just expand. Remember that video with
everyone getting whacked in the head of your mattresses?
TikTok keeps on well when? Like when they were like, why
are you in your heels on a box spring?

(22:55):
Like on a box. What was it called?
Yeah, a box spring. Yeah, same reason she was
wearing black, so she could be dramatic and oh, it's a funeral
for my marriage mattress. My God, so I do.
Realize we skipped over things to get there because I went from
the no I. Don't think it was like, I mean,
Angie and Mary worked out. Yeah, I think that was the only
other thing. I think, well, we got Brittany

(23:18):
and. Olivia, Brittany and her
daughter. Well, that's.
After Oh OK, I think it was likeit was Bronwyn and her.
It was a lot of like about theirdaughter stuff.
Yes, 3 generations of Bronwyn, Brittany and her daughter.
And then we get to Brittany and I'd say.
Gwen looks a lot more put together this time around than
she did the first time. She also looks more like more of
an adult. I think the first time we saw
her on camera, she looked like ateenage girl.

(23:42):
And now she looks morally, you know, like, doesn't look like
an. Adult AN.
Independent set and not a lot. Like Bronwyn, I don't know, she
takes it more after her father Ithink plenty.
Like Bronwyn. But I think that was just the
hair. It's the hair, yeah.
Also, we learned that I I don't think I knew that Muzzy's name
is actually Margie. I don't think I did either.
Yeah, because she. Really got to the bonsai place,

(24:02):
she said. This Marge.
Because you want to introduce a stranger?
This is Muzzy. Yeah.
Excuse me? What?
So it was interesting. Rawa just needs to be needed and
needed and needs to be loved, yes.
And she's not getting that from Todd.
And she's realizing with the people she's gonna get most
from, well, more from her daughter than her mom, are

(24:23):
leaving her. And she's like, I think the
whole conversation was like, oh,shit, All I have now is Todd,
what am I to do? Yeah.
I mean, going into this season, I didn't expect Bronwyn to be so
anti Todd. And for someone who keeps saying

(24:43):
she wants to like, make her marriage work and like grow with
him, she takes every opportunityto like, kind of just slam on
him. Like, you know, don't threaten
me with a good time. Like, you know, when Muzzy said,
yeah, I think, you know, Todd's to get rid of you next, It's
like, I don't know, like. It's kind of a self.
Fulfilling prophecy almost, Which I don't.

(25:04):
I don't sometimes. People use this show to get out
of marriages. That seems like there's so much
an easier way to do it. No, honestly, sometimes it's
going to be easier to do it thisway.
I just want to know how much shegets in the settlement.
Like what's the prenup look like?
Yeah, 'cause she's having kids with them and her one kid is now

(25:25):
an adult, so it'd. Be interesting, but either you
know, but either way, I guess because, you know, I'm a dumb
romantic, I you know, I thought that they just had a very quirky
marriage that worked for them and then they keep hearing that
it's not the best and that like they have all sorts of other,
you know, issues. It just it's a little

(25:47):
disappointing it. Works until it doesn't work and
then, right, it doesn't work, Right, right, right.
Yeah. So then.
Brittany, her daughter. Brittany, her daughter.
Yes, they were a. Breakthrough.
I didn't know. Where they were going at first
'cause they just ended up going into some place and I'm not used
to therapy like offices having like a weird name like Purple
Haze or whatever it was in my are they was it purple?

(26:10):
It was something purple, something on the door.
And I was like, oh, is this like, are they going to
dispensary? What is this?
So they're getting like, I thought maybe they were getting
their nails done. Well, I thought.
It's Bonzai, Bonzi Mae or whatever were Bronwell with her
mom and and Gwen. I thought that was a restaurant.
And I was like, oh, you're making, you're bringing their
plants. OK, sure.
That seemed like. A wasted opportunity.

(26:30):
Like, that's something that the women should have done as a
group. Yeah.
It's been like, you know, thingshave been really tense lately.
So we're going to get Zen together.
Right. But no, it was just the
daughters. Oh, Momo brought us his toy.
It's so sweet. Every time he does it again.
Never had a cat that like bringsyou gifts that's.
So cute and I was glad it's a nice little orange puppy thing
and a a dead animal, yeah. Well, but luckily we've never

(26:52):
had a dead animal brought to us.Yeah, and hopefully we never
will. Did I tell you that Ashley,
like, discovered a mouse in her house?
Oh no. Did you jump up on a chair?
And go eat, eat I'm. Sure, she lost her mind.
She like just saw it and then itdisappeared and she had to like
have someone come out and. But apparently it's not uncommon
in in DC yeah, in a. Row house like that I can't.

(27:13):
I would. Die.
Didn't we have like drop dead? Did we have a mouse?
In San Francisco, No. No.
In our No, I might. Have had one when I lived with
Ben, but they're mice or mice they, you know, we live over.
No. On Terrible St. we lived over a
restaurant, so you know that happens.
So the cat's going to drive us to our grave.

(27:33):
Cannot. So yeah.
Meanwhile, no mice here. We're not.
We're not doing that. I thought it was, yeah, it's a
good session. They had much more work to do.
I like that Brittany was taking my least favorite word,
accountability and really realizing, you know, how she.

(27:54):
He's OK. Yeah.
He's how how she has let down her daughter.
And the whole thing where her daughter said that she was more
interested in being a stepmotherto her second husband's kids.
I think trying to, like, ingratiate yourself to them and,
you know, and, like, forgot about her two biological kids.
I was like, wow, that's really sad that she lost herself and

(28:15):
then lost her children and her second marriage.
And no, yeah, yeah. I mean, I I think that whole, as
far As for the show goes, I think that whole scene works
because her daughter is very well spoken and and isn't afraid
to kind of call it how it is. So yeah, I mean, I really enjoy

(28:36):
it. It wasn't as powerful as the OR
as hilarious as the first time we saw Brittany's daughter when.
She like broke it down. Yeah, I loved that.
But this? Is definitely, you know, it's
refreshing to see a therapy session on housewives like kind
of go well and actually have some sort of traceable path

(28:56):
where you can see like, oh, thatmakes sense.
And this they said this, they said that, you know, and it's
not just like this, you know, what was that on Mormon wives
with the Oh my. God the EDMR.
Like follow my fingers. Follow my fingers.
You're cured. Like what?
Why don't we tell you? About my trauma, I followed your
fingers now not making whatever trauma no, you might have just

(29:18):
just surprised that's all it took the way that.
EDMR was presented to us. Never.
Which apparently. That's similar to what happens,
but there's a whole warm up to it we weren't Privy to.
Or is it like? How that makes you want to voice
your trauma? I think, no.
I think what it does is it trains your brain to like
concentrate less on the trauma like it your eye movement or

(29:41):
whatever. I have no clue but I've know
people. I don't know people personally
but I've heard famous people whoswear by it.
Anyway I. Again, I I am really.
It's astounding. But it's so surprising that
Britney has so much of her own personal storyline as a friend

(30:02):
to the point where she is a friend of and her daughter is
also getting her own confessionals.
I mean. I think she, I think Brittany
might have herself a snowflake next season.
I don't know why she wouldn't I.Mean honestly, like I feel like
she's a higher up in the friend category in certain ways than
like Marisol, no. No, I would agree on.
I would also say so far this season, you know, Brittany has

(30:25):
done more than Whitney, which isvery.
Much so, and I love. Whitney to pieces.
But you know what? Unless the second-half of the
season has Whitney doing a lot more well, I think.
As we get more so with this Whitney Meredith thing and when
and we see her next week talkingto Justin about, you know, oh,
right, right or business went wrong.
So, yeah, yeah. That makes sense.

(30:47):
So then what happens after therapy?
We just create 2 apologies, right?
A very mature conversation happened down by the lake.
Yeah, I like how they get there.Oh, it's so pretty here to hear
truck drive by in the backgroundlike, oh, it's so pretty.
We're like out in the middle of nature with, you know, Temple
Ave. right behind us or whateverit is.

(31:07):
Temple St. What I liked.
About it is that Meredith still didn't own it.
Own everything. But she apologized for Brittany
overhearing her talking about her and hurting her feelings.
And I think Brittany really tookthat in and it was like, I just
spit. No, I feel like I'm spitting
more of these. Took that in and actually was

(31:32):
like, I'm not going to get more from her than this and at least
she's apologized for something and so I'm going to go with that
and I'm going to apologize as well for my part in it and we're
going to move forward. That was very mature because
another person had been like this is not this is not the
apology that I want from you andscrew you and like walked off

(31:53):
well and. I I really that's continuing.
The fight, right? And I liked that even Meredith
was able to say, look, it's not that you brought it up, it's
that you brought it up under theguise of like in a malicious.
Way being my. Friend like, Oh yeah, it's like,
you know, I, I, it's almost as though saying like, I'd rather
you just brought it up and said like, I'm being, you know, being
shady. I'm bringing this up to like

(32:14):
hurt your feelings then to be like, Oh well, did you know
about this? I'm so concerned for your
marriage. So it just the phoniness of it,
which I was like, oh, OK, yeah. I liked that she caught that
Britney caught Meredith off guard and really kind of took
control of the scene by apologizing and also take

(32:35):
accepting Meredith's apology because I think Meredith was
fully accepting, ready for her to be like, for Brittany to walk
off and off like, well, I tried.Yeah.
And, you know, But Brittany didn't give that to her.
And I love that she didn't give that to her.
Yeah. She took back the power that she
lost on the plane. Whoa, Going real deep there.
Start, did you? Go.
Did you make some bonsai trees today and go to therapy with

(32:57):
your long lost estranged daughter?
It sure. Did it was like she took back
you know what she lost in a plane when she had to be like
held up by all those women and like wiped off the 6th.
Worst thing that's ever happenedto her the 6th.
Worst thing that's ever happenedto her I like.
That Clearly, after she met withHeather that one time, like this
is the worst thing that ever happened to me.
Someone was, like Clearly had said to her, really the

(33:20):
daughter. The worst?
Thing that happened so I'd like to have been in the room with
Brittany when she ranked what the five worst things were and
then landed on this being the 6th.
I hope the estrangement from herdaughters was like at the top
right. I mean, I'm not saying I hope
her two. Divorces.
Yeah. Yeah, So that's three cities
right there. You know, Jared breaking up with

(33:40):
her. Four.
I mean, I know four different. Times in one week.
Well, I'm. Just lump every breakup into one
of the right things. So that's four and then a five
would be. Apparently from her death I
mean. Mormonism.
I Maybe Mormonism. Happened.
I'm not. I'm not hoping bad things on
Britney, I'm just saying I'd like to know we're.
Trying to like break it down with yes.
So yes, I'd like. To know well the back.

(34:02):
Was just like the sixth worst thing.
That's pretty good, yeah. That I'd like, I enjoy.
Britney. Yeah, I never thought I'd say
that. I mean again, but yeah, I I do
enjoy her. Yeah, when she was, I think when
she was meeting with her daughter, I was like, oh, she
does. Because her daughter's outfit
was a little bit like much for going to therapy.

(34:22):
I was just like, oh, that's a therapy dress.
Well. On camera, I know.
I get it, but no, Brittany's hair was in such a way that I
was like, oh, she has her littlebump.
It high volume count thing goingon there.
I'm very nice. I.
Like I also like appreciate the fact that she has a shorter hair
in her confessionals and just like the extensions were so
much. Can we talk?

(34:43):
About Bronwyn's longer hair in her confession.
I like. Bronwyn's longer hair I like
universally because it's not toomuch, right?
It's not overpowering her. Yeah.
And it looks like it could be real.
And the fact? That it's kind of only on one
side, like, and it's, you know, not yeah.
It just looks like it's all justswept over.
It's very nice. It's also very like running down
the beach. Soap opera.
I like it so well. I mean, it wasn't like blown

(35:04):
around like that, but it was very much like.
The color to the bling, it was all.
Very, very, very, very good. Well, and we got Meredith's new.
With the confessional tail and yeah, the color was kind of.
Tunic dress thing I will. Never top the silver suit
though. That is the best that woman has
ever looked. I would.
Agree with that, yes. So anything else, especially?

(35:24):
When she was in it she calls hera judgement old bitch.
Yeah, I, yeah, I don't, I don't think she's.
Right. No, I like it was funny hearing
her say it. Yeah, I.
Just, you know, I Meredith really needs, I really want
Meredith to own, I want Lisa Rinna and Meredith to like meet

(35:44):
so Lisa can pick own it. Just own your stuff.
Own it. And you know, there's one thing
about being embarrassed about your behavior, but I think you
just make it worse for yourself by not owning up to it.
Like if you it's. Complete denial, yeah.
And then also, I think from a housewife's perspective, it
allows the Marys and the Whitney's to be like, well,

(36:06):
we're concerned about you, and that opens up a whole other
thing that you're going to be even more embarrassed about.
And so, yeah, next week we get the we are led to believe that,
you know, Whitney just starts calling Meredith an alcohol,
right? Well, in costume, of course.
Yes. Which I I think she probably
does, but she probably is doing it and over the top like I'm not
wasn't calling you that, but fine.

(36:27):
Now I will alcoholic, you know, right?
So Popper. Yeah, right.
Such. You know, a little can be a
little ridiculous, but again, I think had she just owned it, she
could have taken that all off the table and people would have
moved on. But you know, she can't do it.
That's exactly so I want to knowwhat the other movie was she
watched, though. We only Why do we only know

(36:47):
about Crazy Rich Asians? That was when she was scrolling.
She latched onto that because God knows that woman did not
watch that movie nor in other movies.
No, you won't ever make me believe that.
She's like, oh. I must have fallen asleep before
the end. She was like, oh, you must have
today I stayed. Crazy rich.
Didn't the I thought the end of the Crazy Rich Asians was where

(37:08):
basically she challenged the mother?
That was before at the mahjong. And then there was a plane
moment where he like, got the oh.
Yeah. And all that because for.
Me the most powerful part of crazy occasions was her
challenging the mother and like getting the mother's acceptance
yes and all that I think that's really what the you know for me
was the most powerful part I mean him being all hot and cute

(37:31):
and coming after her on a plane you know he.
Was like the hottest thing for amoment and then you don't really
see him very much. You don't.
We I, we saw him recently in that.
In that sequel. Oh.
Yeah, Yeah, yeah, yeah. That, that Netflix thing we did.
No, no. Click liably that simple favor.
Oh. You're right.
You're right. You're right.
You're right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

(37:52):
That's the last we've seen of him.
He's still kind of cute, though.Oh no.
For sure he is. I just it's interesting like he
was like the. Boy for the guy.
And it was like, oh, great, we're actually having, you know,
a moment where a person of colorbeing, you know, the leading man
and, you know, you don't see him.
And now? All we got is Jonathan Bailey.

(38:12):
Well, at least he's a gay, right?
He's a gay. He's a gay idiot.
He's so, you know, a minority, right?
You know, Yeah. I agree.
It's Jonathan Bailey and Glen Powell, or like the two guys are
having a moments, yeah. I think I don't get the Glen
Powell thing. I mean, I see what people can
see, but he just looks. So just Iowa.

(38:34):
Yeah. He just looks like the Great
Plains and and not know like notlike a whole like wholesome
American, you know, boy next door for yeah, it just he just
seems so beige. It's.
Really like whenever I look on Twitter, I'm seeing that one
scene from the new movie The Running Man where he like takes

(38:56):
his towel off and he sees butt and everyone's like, oh, that
was a double. I'm like, well, it's then
what's? The point, right?
Yeah. Everybody also showed his butt
in that Sidney Sweeney movie too.
What's? Sidney Sweeney movie they came
out. Like after COVID where they're
like they hate each other but they're going to.
Get together. Oh, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's pretend to be they were
hitting and then they broke up and the other this way and they

(39:17):
have to pretend like they're still together.
That old trope, Yeah. Yeah, if you're I don't need a
butt double in these these days.Also, you know, the fact that
they're still making like, butt reveals kind of a a.
You've seen, you've seen a butt,You've seen two butts.
Yeah. But in like a mainstream movie
like that, you don't see butts as often, not male butts.

(39:39):
That's true. And I don't know, I've got to
bring up a whole thing. You don't really see boobs
anymore, but I'm really not paying attention to boob movies
you see. Boobs but it's more like an NDA
24 situation where it's like sadboobs.
What happened? One of the happy boobs of
teenage romp flicks of the 80s. They don't.
Make those movies anymore, because they're very.
Misogynistic and well. Yes, but also teens aren't going

(40:01):
to the movies like that. They're going to see like Demon
Hunter, they're not going to go for like Porky, right?
And they've. Also realized that maybe we
shouldn't be showing boobs to teenagers well.
Also they can just see them on the pornhub that's they
shouldn't be but they do. Have yeah, the the the, the
teeteringness of like he he I saw it's not there anymore.
Exactly. Or so like it's supposed to.

(40:21):
So much America. 'S lost its innocence, America.
Has a problem it really. It really, really does.
And if only someone would make it great again.
No, I was referring to a Beyoncésong called America We Have a
Problem. Oh, sorry.
About that, I had to go ahead and bring it bring it, I had to
bring it nasty so the. Nastiness, I think.

(40:44):
I've gone on too long with all of my stuff.
So we have Thanksgiving. We get ready for it's going to.
Be Thanksgiving and then you like plow right into Christmas.
We're going to get the tree. We get our.
Tree Yeah, that'll be this weekend.
The. Lights.
We're getting lights outside again.
Yeah, the. Lights are the easiest part
because the books are already out there, yeah.
Hate that? Snowman because it falls over

(41:05):
when it slightest breeze knocks the snowman.
Always raining in December and it's always getting knocked over
and it's muddy in that patch where we put the snowman
because. We don't really have a front
yard and where we do, it's just kind of a mound of dirt.
And so so well, figure that out.But I also don't want to spend
good money because we're like something that's also going to
be knocked over all the time. Also, a lot of the stuff you can

(41:25):
get these days are like inflatable stuff that we need.
I don't like. Inflatable also we don't have
like the area for inflatable even if we.
Did I don't like the fact that when you turn them off, they're
just this inflate carcass. This carcass.
Of, you know, reindeer, I'm going to sell.
Yeah, I'm. Not into it, but carcass.
Out but. I definitely want I I really one

(41:45):
year I wanna spend the money to like have light lights put on
the House, like just totally thewhole roof and everything.
And I was gonna say. We can.
I don't think it would cost so much to get like a new snowman
like thing like a reindeer or something.
Yeah, it was on. I think we'll have them for
like, we're good. We're supposed to supposed to
boycott Amazon for Black Friday and through Cyber Monday?

(42:07):
Oh, is that? What we're doing, yeah.
We're supposed to anyway. Was.
That on TikTok. I saw it a few places.
Yeah, OK. Yeah.
But I mean, when are we not boycotting?
If someone's not boycotting, target and remember the target.
In the wild. Though true, no need.
No, there's no need other than the sweet Cajun mix which so
that. Was so good.
It's about the only. Thing I need there so my whole

(42:28):
thing about this and I'll end this quickly is I'm all for
boycotting Amazon when the time is right because yes, a lot of
people get their make their living off delivering Amazon
packages. So you know I do want to support
them in their jobs. But I think that, you know
boycotting Target is a whole different thing because that's a
whole brick and mortar store which everyone's always

(42:49):
complaining we need more brick and mortar but then we're
turning around and saying don't go there.
I'm like, I don't know, it's a sketch 22.
It is. For sure.
But yeah, I just, I don't like going to Target because mainly
we used to go there for toilet paper and they don't carry the
brand that I like, so forget them.
I know. We'd always make we have to get
our paper products from Target and that's like like no, why
make the extra up across town? No point.

(43:10):
No point at all no. And then the Target parking lot
here in town is worse than a Trader Joe's parking lot.
It Apparently our Trader Joe's parking lot must be like the
most luxurious one in the world,because it's not like, perfectly
it's. Pretty grand they do that.
On purpose. There's too much.
Well. Because there's too much shit in
that shopping center. Yeah.
Yeah, but still, who's going to that Raley's?

(43:31):
Nobody. We should go to that Raley's.
We'll see. We're such creatures of habit,
yeah. Love our.
We love our Safeway. You do so anyway, sorry I am
rambling. But now I'm excited that we have
the rest of the week off. I'm excited we're going to see
some friends and do Thanksgivingand I'm excited we're going to

(43:54):
get the Christmas tree up and then see more friends and yeah.
December is already like stacking up with things is upon.
US and then on Monday I have to hit the ground running at work
and change a bunch of prices. Same.
It's crazy. Same 1st of the month.
Oh. Anyway, we'll be.
Back here for Potomac before allthat.
That's true. Thank you for reminding me.

(44:15):
Yes, it's silver lining I get totalk more about housewives.
Always right? So we'll talk about that next
time. Till next time.
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