April 6, 2025 • 27 mins
The AI revolution has arrived in content creation, and it's transforming everything from graphic design to photography at breathtaking speed. Mia and Kristen dive deep into this pivotal moment for creators, entrepreneurs, and business owners, exploring both the thrilling possibilities and legitimate concerns as artificial intelligence reshapes our creative landscape.
We've reached the point of no return with AI – it's not going back in the box. So how do we adapt rather than resist? Should we fear the environmental impact and potential job losses, or embrace the efficiency and new possibilities? The answer lies somewhere in between. For neurodivergent creators like us, AI tools bridge critical gaps in our workflow while raising questions about what this means for traditional creative skills and education.
You'll discover why understanding AI remains essential even if you choose not to use it extensively. We share surprising conversations with professionals outside the entrepreneurial space who remain largely unaware of AI's potential, highlighting the competitive advantage early adopters will enjoy. The most successful creators will combine human creativity with AI capabilities rather than viewing this as an all-or-nothing proposition.
Whether you're excited, terrified, or conflicted about AI in your business, this conversation provides perspective without easy answers. We'd love to hear your thoughts
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Are you ready to master the art of creating
content that converts?
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Hey, I'm Mia, a mum of two who went from being a
burnt out ambo to six-figurecontent creator in less than a
year, all while navigating alate ADHD diagnosis.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
And I'm Kristen, also a mum of two and a former
corporate branding queen turnedentrepreneur.
My dyslexic brain seesmarketing very differently, and
that's my superpower, andtogether we're showing women
like you how to master videomarketing and create content
that generates income.
Whether you're just startingout or ready to scale, we are
breaking down everything fromlanding brand deals to building
(00:34):
your own empire Welcome to.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
I Am that Content?
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Creator podcast where we turn scroll stopping content
into serious income.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
No filters, no fluff just real strategies from two
neurodivergent mums who get it.
So let's turn your phone into avideo marketing machine and
let's go.
Let's go, Guys, be professionalguys.
Oh my God, there's that introdone?
Speaker 1 (01:02):
See where this goes.
All right, Welcome to the I Amthat Content Creator Podcast.
We're cutting through the noiseto show you exactly how to
create goal-stopping content,land premium brand deals and
build a thriving online business.
No bullshit, just provenstrategies that scale.
Mia, what's up Lazing on thecouch over there?
Speaker 2 (01:23):
I'm chilling out, I'm resting before what is to come
next week of school holidays.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
I was going to say you're just doing your work in a
laxed situation right now.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Yeah, for anyone who's not watching the video,
I'm just laying down on thecouch for this potty.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
It's okay, I think one day Mia and I have this
dream of having just some kindof great studio that we can just
sit back and actually recordthese even remotely from each
other, but just sit back andlike yeah, I want one of those
little office pods out the backand just set it up podcast
studio computer.
No one to bug me, I can lockthe door this will just be so
(01:59):
good, just to be like I'm justgoing out to my studio.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Imagine where's mama?
She's in the studio again.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
She's in her studio in her little box outside.
Anyway, that is not what we'rehere to talk to you today about.
We're going to have a littlecheeky conversation around AI
and certainly around what'sgoing on right now with this AI
for image generation, because ifyou've been scrolling the
TikTok, scrolling the GrammarJam, you are going to be seeing
(02:27):
people talking about AIgenerated images and a lot of
things that I see certainly I'msure you've seen them, mia as
well is a lot of likemarketing's dead, graphic
design's dead, and obviouslythey are all hooks that we're
all falling for.
And, as a graphic designer, Igot some thoughts good and bad,
(02:48):
you would.
So I think I thought we'd justhave a chat about it today and
maybe come with some greatinsights, or maybe just have a
conversation that you may beconcerned, worried, intrigued,
interested how we've used it,how we would think about using
it.
Yeah, I think that's probablyall we really want to do today,
isn't it?
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Yeah, I mean it's a big topic everywhere, this AI
stuff.
And we were just chattingbefore and I said I don't think
everyone realizes what we're infor.
Like, it's just so hard toforesee the future of where this
is going.
But it's important to havethese conversations, especially
if you're in business.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Yeah, and I think it's one of those things that
the part of the conversation isso exciting because, oh my God,
this is possible now.
And then part of it is like oh,are we doing that?
Are we, are we, are we?
Okay, we're there, I don't knowhow I feel about that, I know,
and it's kind of that thing thatlike, from what I see, there's
(03:42):
no going back as we start movingforward.
So it's like, okay, if we can'tgo back, like we can't put this
rabbit in a fucking hole, whywe can't be like y'all get back,
pipe down, chachi, like we'rein it.
So now, how do we embrace it?
And how do we embrace it asmillennials, as gen x's, as the
next generation, becauseobviously the generations coming
(04:03):
up are going to be full into it.
So how do we work with it, notagainst it, and not put that
like?
I know I can already hear myparents putting their like oh,
that's just not the way we usedto do things.
Hat on, we're like you knowwhat?
It's the way the world's goingand if we don't keep up, we're
fucked.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Yeah, we're fucked.
Well, my mum's using ChatGPTand she loves it.
So I think, yeah, I mean it'shere, it's here to stay, like
you said, you just can't put itback in the box, yeah, so I mean
for creators, for graphicdesigners, like it's pretty
confronting, like potentiallythere will just be AI avatars
(04:44):
doing all the content and Iwon't be needed anymore.
And like graphic designers,with the new release of the
image generation update onChatGPT, it's getting good.
It is getting good, and so arethe UGC avatars.
You know, you can actuallyplace products inside their hand
while they're talking.
It's getting pretty wild.
(05:06):
But I think the most importantthing creators and business
owners can do now is just getamongst it and embrace it and
learn it, because it is notgoing anywhere and potentially
it's going to save businessesmoney.
It's going to make businessesmoney, but on the flip side,
people may lose their jobs orthey're going to have to pivot
(05:29):
and learn how to run the AI thatis doing their old job.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Yeah, and I think that's the thing is.
It's you know.
You're exactly right when yousay get amongst it, Like there's
no point in being like, oh,it's not going to happen here,
it's not going to happen here.
And even if you're a smallbusiness, that you know you're
wearing a lot of hats, we getthat.
But even if you're outside,outsourcing your creative for
example, you're outsourcing yourgraphic design that's okay, but
it's I would still advise youto get around it, like get into
(05:56):
it, understand it, Because ifyou're potentially paying
designers, creatives, whateverto do these things and they're
using these tools, you also wantto know that.
Like, I just feel like atransparency for you as a
business owner and you as acreative use this, understand it
.
You may not want to use it atall in your business, but start
(06:17):
to use it to understand itspower and don't be ignorant to
it.
I think that would be thebiggest piece of advice.
Yeah, you know, If yourcompetition is using AI and
you're not ignorant to it.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
I think that would be the biggest piece of advice.
Yeah, you know, if your, ifyour competition is using AI and
you're not, what's going tohappen there?
Speaker 1 (06:31):
And, like we've said, it's only going to keep growing
.
So the more that you can investin learning about it, the
better, and that's why,obviously, we invested in it.
We share it inside ourcommunity.
We've created studios andthings to do that.
And it was interesting because Iwas talking to a couple of
school mums the other day whoare just going through their
graphic design right now and asI was talking, my brain was like
(06:53):
fuck, like you're justfinishing a course in graphic
design, which is amazing, andit's not like it's going to take
over tomorrow.
It's not like this is a skillset that they won't get a job,
they won't be used, becausethere are going to be businesses
, small and large, that willfear using AI and not want to
touch it.
That's okay.
But as an entrepreneur, Isuppose what Mia and I want to
(07:15):
say to you is don't fear it, useit, utilize it, understand it,
play with it, test it, seewhat's possible so that you can
use it when it like it's notgoing to go anywhere, like we've
said a thousand times.
But just listening to theseschool mums and kind of parting
some of my wisdom around graphicdesign, I just said to them
(07:35):
look, you know, like you'reusing much AI.
And she said, oh, they're doinga few courses inside the uni
and the TAFE course that areeducating us on it, but you know
they're really strict on us notusing it.
Blah, blah, blah.
And I was like cool, but I'mgoing to just put my
entrepreneur business owner haton and let you know that you
kind of ignore that advice.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Yeah, like your uni is telling you not to use AI
when you're about to step outinto the big wide world, where
it's already here.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Yeah, and if you're not implementing it, a big, wide
world where it's already here,yeah, and if you're not
implementing it, there will bedesigners that are like oh, I've
never done graphic design in mylife, but I know how to use AI.
They are going to get the jobbecause AI will do the job for
them, no matter what.
So you have the advantage thatyou understand graphic design,
creativity, marketing, branding,whatever that is.
So utilize that skill thatyou've learned and the passion
(08:24):
that you've got for creatingthat, because there'll be
somebody that has no passion, nocare, zero fucks, but
understands AI.
That is going to jump on thisso quickly.
And it was actually reallyinteresting to have that
conversation with them because Ithink, mia, we've said this a
few times we forget how deep inentrepreneurship and this space
we are and then we speak topeople outside this space that
(08:47):
you think would be quite like.
I thought these mums would bequite across it and they were
both like, oh, I, I hadn't, Ihadn't actually thought of that
and I was like a fucking what?
Speaker 2 (08:56):
yeah, it's crazy, isn't it?
Yeah, and I had a conversationa few weeks back with a couple
of teachers and I'm like, oh,using AI, yeah, and like, oh,
yeah, but like it writes emailsfor me and stuff like that, I'm
just like, and they don't use itin their everyday life, and it
was just a very non-event kindof thing and I'm like shit, like
(09:17):
if only they knew thepossibilities and the power of
how this can, yeah, help them,even as teachers and in your
life.
Yeah, yeah, I think a lot ofpeople, too, are very concerned
about the environmental effectsof AI and all that side of
(09:37):
things, as well and youunderstand like I've heard bits
and pieces of that environmentaleffect.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
but do you understand enough to kind of share what
you've heard about it like wedon't know everything, but like
just for people that, like whatit's on a computer, I don't get
it yeah, well, from my from, Ihaven't gone really deep into it
, but from what I understand youknow, all this data being
produced is being stored inmassive servers which you know.
(10:04):
Isn't it probably about thewater cooling or something Like?
They're using litres of waterto cool these machines because
they're running?
Yeah, I've heard that.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
I've heard a few other things.
I'm not sure what's true.
I haven't gone into too muchdepth, but I guess the thing is
are these people saying don'tuse AI because of the
environment?
It's kind of like saying topeople now, don't have a mobile
phone.
You're kind of stuck like we're, we're, we're going back
(10:34):
against the wall already.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
It's here to stay, so I don't yeah, don't have the
answer for the environmentalside of things and I think it's
one of those things that it'ssuch a controversial topic in
terms of should we be using it?
Why are we using it?
We still need humans to do ourjobs and, like you say, if
(10:58):
somebody said, well, everybody,just take your phone away, we're
just not going to do phonesanymore.
That's just not possible.
You've, like, it's been createdand so now how do we deal with
it in our everyday life?
And certainly when it comes to,you know, just this new image
generator and whatever that,it's blown my mind just to see
(11:18):
the few things that I've createdso far, that other creators are
creating, that, the campaignsfrom a graphic design point of
view, and somebody that's workedon campaigns before, the
ability is mind-blowing becausethe skill set it takes to create
these campaigns and createthese designs pre-AI, you know
(11:41):
there is a really incredibleskill.
Even pre-Canva or those thataren't using Canva, they're
doing true graphic design.
They're using Photoshop andIllustrator and InDesign, and
that stuff takes time to learn,it takes expertise and you know
it's a skill set that, yes,those uni degrees are phenomenal
and they will give you that.
That AI may never be able to,but it's more looking at how
(12:02):
quickly some of these campaignscan be done, like photography,
stuff like that, like even thephotography that kind of blows
my mind and part of me is really, really fucking scared about it
, because I'm like there is awhole industry of creatives that
fuck.
I love my creative life andwatching what people can create
from nothing and then part of megoes yeah, but then there, and
watching what people can createfrom nothing and then part of me
(12:24):
goes yeah, but then there'sthis thing that can do it and
what?
What's the possibility that'sreally great.
Here, like, I'm so conflicted.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Yeah, yeah, you get torn, don't you?
Like it's going to make yourlife and business and job and
everything so much easier.
Then the other side of it isyeah, well, I've become kind of
redundant and, like you said,the photos are getting really,
really realistic.
The videos I've seen marketingbros on YouTube actually selling
(12:57):
AI avatar UGC videos in bulk tothese businesses so they can
test 50 creatives at the drop ofa hat.
And you know it's.
It's a really weird time for usto be in, because we don't know
quite how far it's going to go.
I was just having the thoughtthen of being a photographer,
(13:19):
but or maybe everyone will getsick of the AI and they'll want
to go back to the original realphotography.
But by then AI would just beable to replicate it in an
instant and no one would evenknow.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
I think that's the thing, because even with that,
like I know, with the weddingtrends and wedding photography,
certainly last year there's ahuge trend around um
photographers going back and andwedding couples taking like old
school film cameras, and thenthe wedding photographers were
then creating their umphotography, like that grainy,
(13:54):
beautiful, old school, classickind of thing, because
everyone's so over the overdonestuff.
But, like you say, like AI isgoing to be able to do that, and
that's the scary part, likeit's such a conflicting place to
be that I'm part so fuckingexcited that I'm like I just
want to test it, I just want totry it and then I get there and
I'm like oh, I wish I hadn'tdone that.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Yeah, and when you think like for our kids too,
it's really fucking freakythinking about what's going to
be like when they're our age.
But even I just got an inboundthe other day from a brand
wanting me to do some contentfor this itty-bitty little AI
thing that you stick on yourshirt like a little microphone
(14:37):
and it listens to your day atwork, all the conversations, all
the conversations, all themeetings.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
It just collects everything and figures it all
out for you at the end.
If we had that, I feel like itwould set on fire because it'd
be like you guys talk too much,so many messaging things Fuck it
would.
It would just turn yes, I'm onfire, but you know, like this,
(15:12):
this product is um the tiger.
Audience is medicalprofessionals because, yeah
right, they're doing documentingnotes and speaking to patients,
and all day and even, um, Iknow my cousin, he's a surgeon
and he like has notestranscribed and then he he used
to have somebody type them out.
So something like that would beall he needs If he's doing his
fucking surgery.
He just talks it out.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Yeah, and that medical typist is that a typist.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
She's gone, Sure it is now.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Yeah.
Then the medical typist yeah,she's gone, she's not needed
anymore.
Yeah, but the thing is with AItoo.
It could potentially solveenvironmental issues, solve
cancer, like it's.
It's just like this bittersweet.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
I know and I think that's what we kind of why we
wanted to have this conversation, like there's no real.
We're not going to end thisconversation like, hey, well
done, we solved the world.
But I thought you know me and Ijust thought we have this
conversation constantly and asyou as a creator, as an
entrepreneur, you might be quitesolo in what you're doing right
now and be like, yeah, I wantto have this conversation.
(16:18):
And so if you see these clips,if you see our podcast, like let
us know, drop us a message,comment if you see, especially
because we cut these up and putthese on our social media like,
start commenting, let's have aconversation.
And I don't.
There's no right, there's nowrong.
There's environmental problems,and then there's my job's going
to get taken over, but at thesame time, as long as you're
(16:38):
using implementing, sharing,like you could become part of
implementing the process betteror, you know, changing the way
that we think and feel.
So there's no right or wrong.
But I think you know, certainlyfor me and the conversation that
we started to have beforearound this whole graphic design
(16:59):
thing, for me I mean, I'm amanifesting generator, I like to
work fast, so I'm always about.
Like even when I was doingdesign, I was always looking for
the okay, how do I do the bulkthing, how do I create this?
So I'm just gonna you know,every time I do something you'd
figure out a faster, better wayto do it, because you wanted to
get to the end step.
Because the one thing aboutgraphic design I can tell you is
when a client comes back likeso can we just like try it in
(17:21):
like seven different colors andcould I just move that there and
I'm like cool, I'm the trainedone.
But yeah, let's do what youthink, let's try that.
Well, now, that kind of helpsbecause it's not sweet.
Yeah, in four seconds I changedit.
It's like um, um.
So that part is good.
But I think you know, even insaying that I don't know about
you, mia, but sometimes I findmyself getting dumber because
(17:46):
I'm using it.
Yeah, look off.
Yeah, I love it.
So I'm so again, I'm soconflicted because it's helping
my chaotic mind calm and give meclarity.
But now when I got to dosomething, I'm like I can get
chat to help me yeah, I'm thesame like.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
I'll start writing an email and I'll be like, oh, it
just sounds weird.
And then, yeah, you jump overchat, jibbitee, boom, two
seconds.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Oh, that's what I was trying to say yeah, or I'll
voice note exactly what I wantto say, because I'm like I can't
type it out how I want to sayit.
So this is what I want to say,and then it tells, then it
articulates it, but I'm likethank you, that's what I wanted
to do, like it's and I thinkanybody that um is not telling
you they're using it, but isusing it.
(18:33):
Come on, like come on.
I know there's some creatorsI've seen their work that
they're like no, I don't use it.
Like it's all me.
I'm like fucking bullshit.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
But it's all big dashes.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Yeah, I can see your dashes.
I can see what I call the otherday the emoji orgy.
I like some ogs, like it's it'sbecome certainly if you're in
this space and entrepreneur,it's become part of how we're
doing business.
So cool, let's own that.
I do believe intently that youneed to read over the work and
(19:07):
you need to check it and itneeds to feel like you.
I believe that and that's why Ilike to voice note everything,
because I'm like well, it's comefrom my head but there's no way
I can take head to hand and getit out that way.
Just, that's been my life as adyslexic it just does not
fucking happen.
So I think there's thatconflict that you know let's
call it what it is If you arenot using it but you're in a
(19:29):
workplace that you're fearful ofit, because you're like I don't
know how this will help me.
I don't know like it's okay todabble in it and it's even more
okay to start learning how it'sgoing to help you or how you can
use it to help your business,to pivot in your business, to
add to your, take away some ofyour workload, Like that's.
(19:51):
I think that's important inthis whole space as well.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Yeah, yeah, try not to be scared of it, which, yeah,
who knows what's going tohappen.
Be wary of it.
You know, in my Facebook feedalready there's lots of
AI-generated videos and picturesand I can still tell straight
away.
I'm sure it will be perfectsoon, but a lot of people are
getting tricked already by theseimages that have been generated
(20:20):
that are just completely fake.
So know it, understand it, justbe wary, because there are
going to be scammers.
A lot of bad stuff is going tohappen through AI, and if you're
completely switched off to itand don't understand anything
about it, then you might, youknow, get caught out.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Start to get educated really, and especially if
you're an entrepreneur andyou're listening to us and
you're a bit like I don't know,I haven't used it much.
Just start getting educatedDoesn't mean you have to use it,
doesn't mean you have to, butjust get educated in how it's
being used and you know.
If we go back to the wholedesign marketing, is it dead
(21:02):
because of AI?
Look, it's going to change,like that's.
That's obvious.
It's going to change.
I still do believe that havinga creative mind and usually
entrepreneurs are creative, soif you're listening to this,
you're creative, whether youlike it or not.
But having creative mind isgoing to allow you to write the
(21:23):
right prompts to pivot yourbusiness correctly, to implement
it in a way that's going towork.
Have the actual ideas.
Like it's not going to.
Ai isn't going to be able to doall of that for you.
You still need to give it theright prompts, and if you don't
have that, then you're not goingto get the outcome.
So there, there is still alittle bit of give and take, but
that's where, probably, ourmessage is just get educated and
(21:45):
let us know how you feel aboutit.
Basically, like dropping the DMS, drop into um, our Instagram,
or Tik TOK at high pubcollective, and when you say
this, like, just share it, shareit with your audience, share
this message, this podcast, geta discussion going, because we'd
love to hold bigger discussions.
If you're somebody that usesthat and you're listening to
(22:07):
this, or you know a really goodcreator, we'd love to talk to
other creators as well.
Like it's.
It's a conversation I thinkit's worth continuing to have
for ourselves and if we've gotchildren as well, I think it's
really important to understandthis for the next generation
that we're raising, becausethey're going to know so much
(22:27):
more than we do and we stillwant to be able to support them
in understanding its power andso forth.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Yes, yes, you've got to stay up to date with it for
your kids too, and to protectthem as well.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Yeah, so that's all we've kind of got on that topic.
I wish we had like an outcomefor you, but we don't, because
it's always going to evolve andnext week there will probably be
something new in there.
But what we have got is a newcheeky little segment that we
want to add at the end of ourpodcast because we think it's
funny, and you know we don'tlike boring shit.
So we're here for it.
Just DM us, send it to us.
Comment if you see this onsocials because, like, we're
(23:06):
going to have the hard hittingconversations here.
Oh, this is serious stuff, likebusiness chat.
So, mia, you're going to bringone to the table today.
Apparently, all right.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Would you rather?
This is a hard one.
Would you rather you rather Igotta get it right in my head?
Would you rather eat poo thatdoesn't taste like poo or eat
something that tastes like poo?
Speaker 1 (23:37):
okay, like, what kind of poo are we talking here?
Are we talking like?
I think that's all brassy andI'm like no, we're going human
poo.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Would you rather eat your own poo that doesn't taste
like poo and is this all thetime, or is this like one off?
This is one off.
You got one choice.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
This was like a lifelong commitment.
Oh, you wouldn't want to do itevery day, you wouldn't want to
eat food that tastes like poo.
So then what would you do?
This is so messed up.
I love how much thought I'mliterally putting into that.
Yeah, messed up, but so like,like, I love how much thought
(24:20):
I'm literally putting into that.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Oh yeah, I'm like.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Well, if you eat the poo that doesn't taste like poo,
you're probably gonna get sickif I'm eating poo that doesn't
that tastes like food, then I'mjust making my own food.
If I'm doing this all the time,oh, the texture, though.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
I'm just making my own food if I'm doing this all
the time.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Oh, the texture, though no none of this is okay.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
I was just about to say no, I'm going with the food
that tastes like poo, but couldyou imagine?
Speaker 1 (24:53):
You're going with the food that tastes like poo.
So you're eating a roast pork,right, or a schnitty like you're
sitting down for a schnitty ata pub and it tastes like poo,
but yet that feels like it wouldbe easier to do.
Is this my gravy tasting likepoo?
I'd just put more gravy on it.
The gravy tastes like poo.
(25:14):
No no.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Yeah, I'm going with the parma.
That tastes like poo.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
I can't eat poo no, no, because no but that.
But then, like, is the pootaste delicious?
Oh, all right, what would youdo?
All right, let us know if youwatch this and you are not
disgusted by us.
They're not all going to beabout poo, but this was just a
(25:42):
funny one that came to mind thatwe saw we're trying to find
something that just resonatedwith us that we thought you know
what, let's share it.
So, okay, what would I do?
I don't know.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
She's going to sleep on it.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
I feel like I don't, I don't, I don't know.
Is it a lifetime thing?
No, it's just a day, just forthe day.
Okay, it's for the day.
I think I'd have to eat thefood that tastes like I think I
could could cope, and I just goreally hungry that day I just
rather just starve, to be honest.
(26:26):
Anyway, next week, um, it'sgoing to be about goats oh,
that's a little bit of fun thatwe've just had to have, because
you know what laughter is thebest goddamn medicine, and
that's what we're here for.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
It is.
It is.
Hopefully you found that funnyand not absolutely disgusting.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Yeah, no, stay tuned, all right, see you later.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Bye.
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Speaker 2 (01:23):
I'm chilling out, I'm resting before what is to come
next week of school holidays.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
I was going to say you're just doing your work in a
laxed situation right now.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Yeah, for anyone who's not watching the video,
I'm just laying down on thecouch for this potty.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
It's okay, I think one day Mia and I have this
dream of having just some kindof great studio that we can just
sit back and actually recordthese even remotely from each
other, but just sit back andlike yeah, I want one of those
little office pods out the backand just set it up podcast
studio computer.
No one to bug me, I can lockthe door this will just be so
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Speaker 2 (02:02):
Imagine where's mama?
She's in the studio again.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
She's in her studio in her little box outside.
Anyway, that is not what we'rehere to talk to you today about.
We're going to have a littlecheeky conversation around AI
and certainly around what'sgoing on right now with this AI
for image generation, because ifyou've been scrolling the
TikTok, scrolling the GrammarJam, you are going to be seeing
(02:27):
people talking about AIgenerated images and a lot of
things that I see certainly I'msure you've seen them, mia as
well is a lot of likemarketing's dead, graphic
design's dead, and obviouslythey are all hooks that we're
all falling for.
And, as a graphic designer, Igot some thoughts good and bad,
(02:48):
you would.
So I think I thought we'd justhave a chat about it today and
maybe come with some greatinsights, or maybe just have a
conversation that you may beconcerned, worried, intrigued,
interested how we've used it,how we would think about using
it.
Yeah, I think that's probablyall we really want to do today,
isn't it?
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Yeah, I mean it's a big topic everywhere, this AI
stuff.
And we were just chattingbefore and I said I don't think
everyone realizes what we're infor.
Like, it's just so hard toforesee the future of where this
is going.
But it's important to havethese conversations, especially
if you're in business.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Yeah, and I think it's one of those things that
the part of the conversation isso exciting because, oh my God,
this is possible now.
And then part of it is like oh,are we doing that?
Are we, are we, are we?
Okay, we're there, I don't knowhow I feel about that, I know,
and it's kind of that thing thatlike, from what I see, there's
(03:42):
no going back as we start movingforward.
So it's like, okay, if we can'tgo back, like we can't put this
rabbit in a fucking hole, whywe can't be like y'all get back,
pipe down, chachi, like we'rein it.
So now, how do we embrace it?
And how do we embrace it asmillennials, as gen x's, as the
next generation, becauseobviously the generations coming
(04:03):
up are going to be full into it.
So how do we work with it, notagainst it, and not put that
like?
I know I can already hear myparents putting their like oh,
that's just not the way we usedto do things.
Hat on, we're like you knowwhat?
It's the way the world's goingand if we don't keep up, we're
fucked.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Yeah, we're fucked.
Well, my mum's using ChatGPTand she loves it.
So I think, yeah, I mean it'shere, it's here to stay, like
you said, you just can't put itback in the box, yeah, so I mean
for creators, for graphicdesigners, like it's pretty
confronting, like potentiallythere will just be AI avatars
(04:44):
doing all the content and Iwon't be needed anymore.
And like graphic designers,with the new release of the
image generation update onChatGPT, it's getting good.
It is getting good, and so arethe UGC avatars.
You know, you can actuallyplace products inside their hand
while they're talking.
It's getting pretty wild.
(05:06):
But I think the most importantthing creators and business
owners can do now is just getamongst it and embrace it and
learn it, because it is notgoing anywhere and potentially
it's going to save businessesmoney.
It's going to make businessesmoney, but on the flip side,
people may lose their jobs orthey're going to have to pivot
(05:29):
and learn how to run the AI thatis doing their old job.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Yeah, and I think that's the thing is.
It's you know.
You're exactly right when yousay get amongst it, Like there's
no point in being like, oh,it's not going to happen here,
it's not going to happen here.
And even if you're a smallbusiness, that you know you're
wearing a lot of hats, we getthat.
But even if you're outside,outsourcing your creative for
example, you're outsourcing yourgraphic design that's okay, but
it's I would still advise youto get around it, like get into
(05:56):
it, understand it, Because ifyou're potentially paying
designers, creatives, whateverto do these things and they're
using these tools, you also wantto know that.
Like, I just feel like atransparency for you as a
business owner and you as acreative use this, understand it
.
You may not want to use it atall in your business, but start
(06:17):
to use it to understand itspower and don't be ignorant to
it.
I think that would be thebiggest piece of advice.
Yeah, you know, If yourcompetition is using AI and
you're not ignorant to it.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
I think that would be the biggest piece of advice.
Yeah, you know, if your, ifyour competition is using AI and
you're not, what's going tohappen there?
Speaker 1 (06:31):
And, like we've said, it's only going to keep growing
.
So the more that you can investin learning about it, the
better, and that's why,obviously, we invested in it.
We share it inside ourcommunity.
We've created studios andthings to do that.
And it was interesting because Iwas talking to a couple of
school mums the other day whoare just going through their
graphic design right now and asI was talking, my brain was like
(06:53):
fuck, like you're justfinishing a course in graphic
design, which is amazing, andit's not like it's going to take
over tomorrow.
It's not like this is a skillset that they won't get a job,
they won't be used, becausethere are going to be businesses
, small and large, that willfear using AI and not want to
touch it.
That's okay.
But as an entrepreneur, Isuppose what Mia and I want to
(07:15):
say to you is don't fear it, useit, utilize it, understand it,
play with it, test it, seewhat's possible so that you can
use it when it like it's notgoing to go anywhere, like we've
said a thousand times.
But just listening to theseschool mums and kind of parting
some of my wisdom around graphicdesign, I just said to them
(07:35):
look, you know, like you'reusing much AI.
And she said, oh, they're doinga few courses inside the uni
and the TAFE course that areeducating us on it, but you know
they're really strict on us notusing it.
Blah, blah, blah.
And I was like cool, but I'mgoing to just put my
entrepreneur business owner haton and let you know that you
kind of ignore that advice.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Yeah, like your uni is telling you not to use AI
when you're about to step outinto the big wide world, where
it's already here.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Yeah, and if you're not implementing it, a big, wide
world where it's already here,yeah, and if you're not
implementing it, there will bedesigners that are like oh, I've
never done graphic design in mylife, but I know how to use AI.
They are going to get the jobbecause AI will do the job for
them, no matter what.
So you have the advantage thatyou understand graphic design,
creativity, marketing, branding,whatever that is.
So utilize that skill thatyou've learned and the passion
(08:24):
that you've got for creatingthat, because there'll be
somebody that has no passion, nocare, zero fucks, but
understands AI.
That is going to jump on thisso quickly.
And it was actually reallyinteresting to have that
conversation with them because Ithink, mia, we've said this a
few times we forget how deep inentrepreneurship and this space
we are and then we speak topeople outside this space that
(08:47):
you think would be quite like.
I thought these mums would bequite across it and they were
both like, oh, I, I hadn't, Ihadn't actually thought of that
and I was like a fucking what?
Speaker 2 (08:56):
yeah, it's crazy, isn't it?
Yeah, and I had a conversationa few weeks back with a couple
of teachers and I'm like, oh,using AI, yeah, and like, oh,
yeah, but like it writes emailsfor me and stuff like that, I'm
just like, and they don't use itin their everyday life, and it
was just a very non-event kindof thing and I'm like shit, like
(09:17):
if only they knew thepossibilities and the power of
how this can, yeah, help them,even as teachers and in your
life.
Yeah, yeah, I think a lot ofpeople, too, are very concerned
about the environmental effectsof AI and all that side of
(09:37):
things, as well and youunderstand like I've heard bits
and pieces of that environmentaleffect.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
but do you understand enough to kind of share what
you've heard about it like wedon't know everything, but like
just for people that, like whatit's on a computer, I don't get
it yeah, well, from my from, Ihaven't gone really deep into it
, but from what I understand youknow, all this data being
produced is being stored inmassive servers which you know.
(10:04):
Isn't it probably about thewater cooling or something Like?
They're using litres of waterto cool these machines because
they're running?
Yeah, I've heard that.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
I've heard a few other things.
I'm not sure what's true.
I haven't gone into too muchdepth, but I guess the thing is
are these people saying don'tuse AI because of the
environment?
It's kind of like saying topeople now, don't have a mobile
phone.
You're kind of stuck like we're, we're, we're going back
(10:34):
against the wall already.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
It's here to stay, so I don't yeah, don't have the
answer for the environmentalside of things and I think it's
one of those things that it'ssuch a controversial topic in
terms of should we be using it?
Why are we using it?
We still need humans to do ourjobs and, like you say, if
(10:58):
somebody said, well, everybody,just take your phone away, we're
just not going to do phonesanymore.
That's just not possible.
You've, like, it's been createdand so now how do we deal with
it in our everyday life?
And certainly when it comes to,you know, just this new image
generator and whatever that,it's blown my mind just to see
(11:18):
the few things that I've createdso far, that other creators are
creating, that, the campaignsfrom a graphic design point of
view, and somebody that's workedon campaigns before, the
ability is mind-blowing becausethe skill set it takes to create
these campaigns and createthese designs pre-AI, you know
(11:41):
there is a really incredibleskill.
Even pre-Canva or those thataren't using Canva, they're
doing true graphic design.
They're using Photoshop andIllustrator and InDesign, and
that stuff takes time to learn,it takes expertise and you know
it's a skill set that, yes,those uni degrees are phenomenal
and they will give you that.
That AI may never be able to,but it's more looking at how
(12:02):
quickly some of these campaignscan be done, like photography,
stuff like that, like even thephotography that kind of blows
my mind and part of me is really, really fucking scared about it
, because I'm like there is awhole industry of creatives that
fuck.
I love my creative life andwatching what people can create
from nothing and then part of megoes yeah, but then there, and
watching what people can createfrom nothing and then part of me
(12:24):
goes yeah, but then there'sthis thing that can do it and
what?
What's the possibility that'sreally great.
Here, like, I'm so conflicted.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Yeah, yeah, you get torn, don't you?
Like it's going to make yourlife and business and job and
everything so much easier.
Then the other side of it isyeah, well, I've become kind of
redundant and, like you said,the photos are getting really,
really realistic.
The videos I've seen marketingbros on YouTube actually selling
(12:57):
AI avatar UGC videos in bulk tothese businesses so they can
test 50 creatives at the drop ofa hat.
And you know it's.
It's a really weird time for usto be in, because we don't know
quite how far it's going to go.
I was just having the thoughtthen of being a photographer,
(13:19):
but or maybe everyone will getsick of the AI and they'll want
to go back to the original realphotography.
But by then AI would just beable to replicate it in an
instant and no one would evenknow.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
I think that's the thing, because even with that,
like I know, with the weddingtrends and wedding photography,
certainly last year there's ahuge trend around um
photographers going back and andwedding couples taking like old
school film cameras, and thenthe wedding photographers were
then creating their umphotography, like that grainy,
(13:54):
beautiful, old school, classickind of thing, because
everyone's so over the overdonestuff.
But, like you say, like AI isgoing to be able to do that, and
that's the scary part, likeit's such a conflicting place to
be that I'm part so fuckingexcited that I'm like I just
want to test it, I just want totry it and then I get there and
I'm like oh, I wish I hadn'tdone that.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Yeah, and when you think like for our kids too,
it's really fucking freakythinking about what's going to
be like when they're our age.
But even I just got an inboundthe other day from a brand
wanting me to do some contentfor this itty-bitty little AI
thing that you stick on yourshirt like a little microphone
(14:37):
and it listens to your day atwork, all the conversations, all
the conversations, all themeetings.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
It just collects everything and figures it all
out for you at the end.
If we had that, I feel like itwould set on fire because it'd
be like you guys talk too much,so many messaging things Fuck it
would.
It would just turn yes, I'm onfire, but you know, like this,
(15:12):
this product is um the tiger.
Audience is medicalprofessionals because, yeah
right, they're doing documentingnotes and speaking to patients,
and all day and even, um, Iknow my cousin, he's a surgeon
and he like has notestranscribed and then he he used
to have somebody type them out.
So something like that would beall he needs If he's doing his
fucking surgery.
He just talks it out.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Yeah, and that medical typist is that a typist.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
She's gone, Sure it is now.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Yeah.
Then the medical typist yeah,she's gone, she's not needed
anymore.
Yeah, but the thing is with AItoo.
It could potentially solveenvironmental issues, solve
cancer, like it's.
It's just like this bittersweet.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
I know and I think that's what we kind of why we
wanted to have this conversation, like there's no real.
We're not going to end thisconversation like, hey, well
done, we solved the world.
But I thought you know me and Ijust thought we have this
conversation constantly and asyou as a creator, as an
entrepreneur, you might be quitesolo in what you're doing right
now and be like, yeah, I wantto have this conversation.
(16:18):
And so if you see these clips,if you see our podcast, like let
us know, drop us a message,comment if you see, especially
because we cut these up and putthese on our social media like,
start commenting, let's have aconversation.
And I don't.
There's no right, there's nowrong.
There's environmental problems,and then there's my job's going
to get taken over, but at thesame time, as long as you're
(16:38):
using implementing, sharing,like you could become part of
implementing the process betteror, you know, changing the way
that we think and feel.
So there's no right or wrong.
But I think you know, certainlyfor me and the conversation that
we started to have beforearound this whole graphic design
(16:59):
thing, for me I mean, I'm amanifesting generator, I like to
work fast, so I'm always about.
Like even when I was doingdesign, I was always looking for
the okay, how do I do the bulkthing, how do I create this?
So I'm just gonna you know,every time I do something you'd
figure out a faster, better wayto do it, because you wanted to
get to the end step.
Because the one thing aboutgraphic design I can tell you is
when a client comes back likeso can we just like try it in
(17:21):
like seven different colors andcould I just move that there and
I'm like cool, I'm the trainedone.
But yeah, let's do what youthink, let's try that.
Well, now, that kind of helpsbecause it's not sweet.
Yeah, in four seconds I changedit.
It's like um, um.
So that part is good.
But I think you know, even insaying that I don't know about
you, mia, but sometimes I findmyself getting dumber because
(17:46):
I'm using it.
Yeah, look off.
Yeah, I love it.
So I'm so again, I'm soconflicted because it's helping
my chaotic mind calm and give meclarity.
But now when I got to dosomething, I'm like I can get
chat to help me yeah, I'm thesame like.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
I'll start writing an email and I'll be like, oh, it
just sounds weird.
And then, yeah, you jump overchat, jibbitee, boom, two
seconds.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Oh, that's what I was trying to say yeah, or I'll
voice note exactly what I wantto say, because I'm like I can't
type it out how I want to sayit.
So this is what I want to say,and then it tells, then it
articulates it, but I'm likethank you, that's what I wanted
to do, like it's and I thinkanybody that um is not telling
you they're using it, but isusing it.
(18:33):
Come on, like come on.
I know there's some creatorsI've seen their work that
they're like no, I don't use it.
Like it's all me.
I'm like fucking bullshit.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
But it's all big dashes.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Yeah, I can see your dashes.
I can see what I call the otherday the emoji orgy.
I like some ogs, like it's it'sbecome certainly if you're in
this space and entrepreneur,it's become part of how we're
doing business.
So cool, let's own that.
I do believe intently that youneed to read over the work and
(19:07):
you need to check it and itneeds to feel like you.
I believe that and that's why Ilike to voice note everything,
because I'm like well, it's comefrom my head but there's no way
I can take head to hand and getit out that way.
Just, that's been my life as adyslexic it just does not
fucking happen.
So I think there's thatconflict that you know let's
call it what it is If you arenot using it but you're in a
(19:29):
workplace that you're fearful ofit, because you're like I don't
know how this will help me.
I don't know like it's okay todabble in it and it's even more
okay to start learning how it'sgoing to help you or how you can
use it to help your business,to pivot in your business, to
add to your, take away some ofyour workload, Like that's.
(19:51):
I think that's important inthis whole space as well.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Yeah, yeah, try not to be scared of it, which, yeah,
who knows what's going tohappen.
Be wary of it.
You know, in my Facebook feedalready there's lots of
AI-generated videos and picturesand I can still tell straight
away.
I'm sure it will be perfectsoon, but a lot of people are
getting tricked already by theseimages that have been generated
(20:20):
that are just completely fake.
So know it, understand it, justbe wary, because there are
going to be scammers.
A lot of bad stuff is going tohappen through AI, and if you're
completely switched off to itand don't understand anything
about it, then you might, youknow, get caught out.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Start to get educated really, and especially if
you're an entrepreneur andyou're listening to us and
you're a bit like I don't know,I haven't used it much.
Just start getting educatedDoesn't mean you have to use it,
doesn't mean you have to, butjust get educated in how it's
being used and you know.
If we go back to the wholedesign marketing, is it dead
(21:02):
because of AI?
Look, it's going to change,like that's.
That's obvious.
It's going to change.
I still do believe that havinga creative mind and usually
entrepreneurs are creative, soif you're listening to this,
you're creative, whether youlike it or not.
But having creative mind isgoing to allow you to write the
(21:23):
right prompts to pivot yourbusiness correctly, to implement
it in a way that's going towork.
Have the actual ideas.
Like it's not going to.
Ai isn't going to be able to doall of that for you.
You still need to give it theright prompts, and if you don't
have that, then you're not goingto get the outcome.
So there, there is still alittle bit of give and take, but
that's where, probably, ourmessage is just get educated and
(21:45):
let us know how you feel aboutit.
Basically, like dropping the DMS, drop into um, our Instagram,
or Tik TOK at high pubcollective, and when you say
this, like, just share it, shareit with your audience, share
this message, this podcast, geta discussion going, because we'd
love to hold bigger discussions.
If you're somebody that usesthat and you're listening to
(22:07):
this, or you know a really goodcreator, we'd love to talk to
other creators as well.
Like it's.
It's a conversation I thinkit's worth continuing to have
for ourselves and if we've gotchildren as well, I think it's
really important to understandthis for the next generation
that we're raising, becausethey're going to know so much
(22:27):
more than we do and we stillwant to be able to support them
in understanding its power andso forth.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Yes, yes, you've got to stay up to date with it for
your kids too, and to protectthem as well.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Yeah, so that's all we've kind of got on that topic.
I wish we had like an outcomefor you, but we don't, because
it's always going to evolve andnext week there will probably be
something new in there.
But what we have got is a newcheeky little segment that we
want to add at the end of ourpodcast because we think it's
funny, and you know we don'tlike boring shit.
So we're here for it.
Just DM us, send it to us.
Comment if you see this onsocials because, like, we're
(23:06):
going to have the hard hittingconversations here.
Oh, this is serious stuff, likebusiness chat.
So, mia, you're going to bringone to the table today.
Apparently, all right.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Would you rather?
This is a hard one.
Would you rather you rather Igotta get it right in my head?
Would you rather eat poo thatdoesn't taste like poo or eat
something that tastes like poo?
Speaker 1 (23:37):
okay, like, what kind of poo are we talking here?
Are we talking like?
I think that's all brassy andI'm like no, we're going human
poo.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Would you rather eat your own poo that doesn't taste
like poo and is this all thetime, or is this like one off?
This is one off.
You got one choice.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
This was like a lifelong commitment.
Oh, you wouldn't want to do itevery day, you wouldn't want to
eat food that tastes like poo.
So then what would you do?
This is so messed up.
I love how much thought I'mliterally putting into that.
Yeah, messed up, but so like,like, I love how much thought
(24:20):
I'm literally putting into that.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Oh yeah, I'm like.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Well, if you eat the poo that doesn't taste like poo,
you're probably gonna get sickif I'm eating poo that doesn't
that tastes like food, then I'mjust making my own food.
If I'm doing this all the time,oh, the texture, though.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
I'm just making my own food if I'm doing this all
the time.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Oh, the texture, though no none of this is okay.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
I was just about to say no, I'm going with the food
that tastes like poo, but couldyou imagine?
Speaker 1 (24:53):
You're going with the food that tastes like poo.
So you're eating a roast pork,right, or a schnitty like you're
sitting down for a schnitty ata pub and it tastes like poo,
but yet that feels like it wouldbe easier to do.
Is this my gravy tasting likepoo?
I'd just put more gravy on it.
The gravy tastes like poo.
(25:14):
No no.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Yeah, I'm going with the parma.
That tastes like poo.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
I can't eat poo no, no, because no but that.
But then, like, is the pootaste delicious?
Oh, all right, what would youdo?
All right, let us know if youwatch this and you are not
disgusted by us.
They're not all going to beabout poo, but this was just a
(25:42):
funny one that came to mind thatwe saw we're trying to find
something that just resonatedwith us that we thought you know
what, let's share it.
So, okay, what would I do?
I don't know.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
She's going to sleep on it.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
I feel like I don't, I don't, I don't know.
Is it a lifetime thing?
No, it's just a day, just forthe day.
Okay, it's for the day.
I think I'd have to eat thefood that tastes like I think I
could could cope, and I just goreally hungry that day I just
rather just starve, to be honest.
(26:26):
Anyway, next week, um, it'sgoing to be about goats oh,
that's a little bit of fun thatwe've just had to have, because
you know what laughter is thebest goddamn medicine, and
that's what we're here for.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
It is.
It is.
Hopefully you found that funnyand not absolutely disgusting.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Yeah, no, stay tuned, all right, see you later.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Bye.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
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