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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Ahoy, hoy, ahoy to
you, my friend and uh.
Congratulations, man, uh, Iguess, on all you've
accomplished and you know allthe things you've learned over
these years.
You have applied it into yourshop, which is Boogie's Bodega,
located on First Avenue North inBillings, montana, and I just
you know.
I think it's something tocelebrate.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Well thanks, man, I
appreciate it.
And something to celebrate.
Well thanks, man, I appreciateit.
And I appreciate the shamelessplug Clowns.
And it was recently theone-year anniversary.
But more recently, colt'sdaughter, damara, graduated from
high school.
Yeah she did.
Congratulations, kiddo.
I couldn't be prouder of you.
(00:45):
I feel the same way.
Hell, yeah, that would be itfrom the time we were building
forts to now you're off tocollege and, yeah, just can't
overstate how awesome I thinkyou're doing.
And, uh, yeah, thank you foralways being a pleasant child to
be around too, because becausesome are not, but Tamara was
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always awesome.
I think we were more childishthan she was when she was five.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
But that's yeah,
that's pretty realistic there
Also the fact that I think shewas like about five or six when
she Wu-Tang Forever and throwingup the W.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Yeah, you can't
forget these things.
Or her incredible combinationof words when she was coming at
you A tackle I remember that onewas pretty good.
Wow, yeah, so we're talking.
We sound like old people.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
But congratulations,
kiddo.
We kind of are old people Owen.
I suppose we are yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Yeah, whatever, fuck
it Denial ain't just the river
in Egypt, right?
For real, though, I agree withthat statement.
So we're talking aboutgraduations, people.
So now you've graduated in yourknowledge of knowing what this
episode is about, andcongratulations to you.
Out there in podcast landia Yay.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Oh, and I must say
and I can't confirm this, but
you know, I think it's a goodthing that DeMar graduated in
Washington, because I think inMontana it's tradition that they
beat you with a log for goingto that damned learning place.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
So or you read about
books, or in books what?
What are books?
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Anyway, yeah, that
sounds about right.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Yeah, I don't know if
they've removed any books from
schools in Montana, but it seemslike it's a thing that would
happen there.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Just the ones with
words, sorry.
Picture books are fine.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Yeah, all you need to
know is keynote symbols, anyway
.
Anyway, all right guys.
Hey, montana, how you doingtoday?
The first graduation ceremonies.
They're very formal, religiousand Latin-filled affairs.
Okay, owen, they date back tomedieval Europe, kind of.
(03:07):
So they say specifically ineverything I read that it was
around the 12th or 13th century.
The earliest universities likeOxford, paris and Boulogne, they
were founded around that time.
My friend, the stuff that theywould do, you know, were more
closely related to likereligious stuff, I guess, like
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so, like clerical rituals iswhat they call them, you know,
were like priests and andscribes that were just
regurgitating quotes from thebible or whatever they thought
at the moment in time andbelieved in, and all these
things and whatnot.
So that's, that was thebeginning of the sort of
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graduation as we know it, exceptfor it was more of like a
one-off thing, you know, becausethey didn't have I don't know
if that's even the right way tosay that, but they didn't have
like big classes.
It would be like, you know, abunch of monks, you know, and
one of them would complete theirquest for knowledge, and then
maybe he'd go on some sort oftravel where he would, you know,
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preach and do things or find anew place to occupy beyond the
monastery where they learnedeverything, and that was
basically graduation.
I think, like with a lot ofthis stuff, especially with, you
know, the Catholic church style, which is what it was back then
, it was more, like, you know,they would get like some sort of
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relic-ish type thing, not evena relic, like a scarf.
That was like, hey, you knowthese things, you're allowed to
tell people about God in theseways, right?
So I don't know if you readanything about that, but I don't
know.
What do you think about that?
That sounds about spot on, doesit not?
Speaker 2 (05:00):
That sounds about
spot on it does.
Yeah.
And then I did see, you know,moving forward to I think it was
1912, the Naval Academy, the USNaval Academy, apparently
started the tradition ofthrowing your hat or your cap.
I should say Before that it wasnot yours, you had to give it
back.
So it would be frowned upon totoss the academy's cap, but
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apparently that's where thattradition began.
And then, of course, pomp andcircumstance is always played,
and that started with YaleUniversity.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Yeah, I seem to
remember like having to give
back something at my graduation,like they gave us something we
weren't allowed to keep.
That I thought we really shouldhave, but I can't quite recall,
to be honest with you, becauseyou know, as we, I'm old.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
I don't know.
One of my last days at highschool was planting schwag seeds
all over, just hoping at leastone would grow.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Oh my god, yeah, we
that's.
That's amazing, I think thestatute of limitations on that
is yeah, and you were a minor.
It's california yeah, for real,right.
Yeah, we used to.
We had an urban egg class inhorticulture or whatnot, and, uh
, there was a greenhouse.
Well, of course, we would belike finding little spots to
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plant seeds all the time.
The teacher would always findthem, though, and you know they
couldn't do anything about it ifnobody said who did it.
So, like we just kept doing it.
It's like what do you expect?
All right, like, hey, I don'tknow.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Give us the old
college try in high school Right
.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Like what would we
have even done if it started
like budding and just stinking?
And then like what are yougoing to do?
You know, we were thinking thatwe were just trying to like see
if we can grow some weed inschool kind of guys.
All right, give us a fuckingbreak here, yeah.
Yeah, so that doesn't sound,you know.
(07:08):
It sounds like quite thetransformation from the
religious order which, like Isaid was wasn't even necessarily
academic all the way.
A lot of it was more about likerituals and such you know, so
and basically, like the degreewas the license to teach and
whatever right I I understandthat you did.
Did find a couple other onesthere.
(07:29):
You know, the one, the oneabout yale, was slightly
disturbing and I wanted to hearyour version of it because I had
kind of heard another one in away, but very, very, very
similar for real.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Well, there's a
statue right of a former
president of Yale, or a bronzestatue.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Yes, it was the
President, theodore Dwight
Woolsey's bronze statue.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
And not like entirely
clear, but something about not
just like rubbing the foot butupper class and hoping to
graduate with dead and urinateon the foot of the statue.
And I didn't dive too deep intoit as I didn't want to vomit up
lunch.
But hey, traditions.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Yeah, okay, yeah, I
don't know.
I mean, I don't want to beattacked by any Yalians, so no,
yeah, that that's pretty muchwhat I heard the in their
pamphlets uh, pamphlets, I readthat they state that like the
tradition or on their website,wherever the fuck it is.
Does anybody have pamphletsanymore?
I don't know anyway, only thespace is fake people.
(08:43):
Yeah, those guys and theircardboard signs.
Yeah.
So what they say is that whenpeople graduate they kiss the
foot.
Oh, right, right, yeah.
But that's not the case in allreality.
Everybody that went to Yale orknows of these things like from
somebody they know or whatever.
They all piss on the foot Onthe statue.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Yeah, okay, yeah, and
they said that it's been
happening for so long that theon the foot On the statue yeah,
okay, yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
And then they Fuck
that, yeah, and they said that
it's been happening for so longthat the bronze statue has a
very distinct yellowdiscoloration.
The reasoning behind it.
Mama kept falling yeah, yeah,right, I know, isn't that
interesting?
Pretty fascinating Us humans,you know.
Think about your dogs, guys,you know.
(09:29):
Pretty fascinating us humans,you know.
And think about your dogs, guys, you know.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Think about when you
get all mad at them.
Here we are peeing on statues,all right, we're not.
I'm not, I don't know.
I haven't even been to yale.
I can't speak for cult but Ihave not either.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
I did not attend and
I've never even.
No, none of it.
Uh, I have definitely.
I don't know if I've ever peedon a statue I've definitely
don't think I have, I do notrecall I've peed on a lot of
things though a lot of tires,and this is taking a very
educational.
Third, hey, you're on the sideof the road, you know it is what
(09:59):
it is.
Guys, uh, cooey can testify.
Owen's a friend, a friend ofthe show.
We've heard many stories he'she travels a lot, so he has
plenty of holy shit.
I have to go the bathroomstories, just like me.
Uh, the, the, the legend of the, the well, woosley, I don't
even know how to say this guy'sname.
I'm sorry, guys, my bad.
(10:19):
Uh, when he was president, hewould attend like a regatta, uh,
to support the yale crew team,and every during that he would
kick off a boat with his lefttoe to start the race, and then,
and they, it became a good luckthing that when he would do
that, the Yale team would win.
So that's basically where thatcomes from, although it has been
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said in multiple things that Ithat I read that it.
It has no basis in fact.
So all right.
Anyway, argentinians take asimilarly lighthearted approach.
Owen, to commencement fromuniversity Graduates are not
gifted with cards or flowers,but with a barrage of eggs,
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bottles of oil and bags of flourand anything else.
The messier the better.
But this reminds me of what wejust read about weddings.
Um, it's like a.
Basically, they just yeah, thissticky, uh, this show, sticky
pandemonium is a way to teaseand draw playful attention to
the graduates.
That's what I, uh, that's whatI discovered on my mission, but
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yeah, so apparently they peltthem with eggs and flour and oil
.
It sounds like they're gettingready to fry some chicken, like
they're making like you know, Idon't know bread, some chicken
or something.
My friend, let's see what elsewe got here on this fine day.
We are in summer officially,aren't we now?
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Yeah, yeah, I think
we're a week into it.
Yeah, I did see one that'sfallen out of favor.
Graduates of Notre DameUniversity would smoke with
their professors on a porch ofsorts.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Oh, okay, like weed.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
No, I don't think so.
It's in Indiana and I don'tthink Indiana's still
cannabis-friendly.
But, yeah, like pipes andcigarettes and cigars, I believe
.
But it is with smoking becoming, yeah, frowned upon.
But that was an interesting one.
I think, in New Jersey at least, when you graduate high school
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you're supposed to learn how tolaunder money for the principal.
Again, I can't confirm that.
What did?
Speaker 1 (12:25):
you say now which one
?
What school just anywhere inNew Jersey?
The principal Again, I can'tconfirm that.
What did you say now which one?
What school Just anywhere inNew Jersey?
Oh, I was like wait what I waslike glancing at my notes and I
caught that, All right, Woke upthis morning, yeah, so that's
entertaining.
In Mexico they serenade theirgraduates with mariachi bands,
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which just seems badass.
I bet you that would be fun.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Yeah, yeah, and again
anywhere with tacos and
enchiladas and señoritas, I'mfine with attending.
Well, not, although, yeah, mostanywhere.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Most anywhere.
Well, that's, these arethoughts of Owen McMichael.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Okay, guys, this is
what he thinks about people.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Yeah, deep thoughts,
Not with Jack Handy.
Owen McMichael huh, Jack Handy,what a guy.
Not a real guy, but what a guy.
No, he's a real guy.
Yeah, but no, but wasn't hisname different.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
No, he was a writer
and they were making jokes about
yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Yeah, like it was a
pen name or something is what
I'm getting at.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
No, I think it was
his actual name.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Really.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Yeah, they just like
used his name to make fun of him
.
I cannot confirm that either,because we cannot confirm if our
sources are functional,reliable, credible or even real.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Yeah, ty, you know,
jeez, I'm with you.
These days, you know, everybodyacts like that's a fucking new
thing, like people fibbing aboutthings, or like, you know,
having an article that's falseor biased or whatever, like
pretty sure, if you look into it, that shit's been going on
forever.
Sorry, just thinking about it,I would have to go as far as
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like saying that there's beentimes where it was possibly
worse, but maybe not.
Nonetheless, oxford in the UKdoes a similar thing to what
they do in Argentina, but theycall it trashing.
So it has to do because becauseof the opulent nature of the
(14:26):
university it's kind ofcontroversial.
But then also they do it tolike kind of you know, just, I
guess at the end of the day theydo it just to kind of like make
a mess and be like, hey, fuck,you guys Go succeed, it'll get
better from here.
I guess.
I don't know, but they makesure nowadays that all their
trash is biodegradable becauseit became so controversial at
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Oxford University.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Dang.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Yeah, which?
This is something everybodyknows by now.
So I'm going to regurgitatesome Internet crap.
Think everybody knows by now.
So I'm gonna regurgitate someinternet crap.
Uh, oxford university was uharound, uh during the same,
around the time of the height ofthe aztec empire, so they were
operating at the same timeactually.
Yeah, it makes a lot of sense,though I mean it's like you know
(15:12):
, they just said right there,oxford, I said, and they said,
well, it came about around, youknow, in the 1300s and you know
columbus didn't get over thatway to discover the americas,
supposedly, which he only landedin jamaica.
People just saying a bunch ofjews discovered america.
A lot of people don't know that.
But at the end of the day, thatwas like 1492, so ox Oxford
(15:35):
University had been around for acouple hundred years before
Europeans even discovered theAmericas.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
And before Billy
passed the third grade.
Oh, which was what a gloriousday, Dude.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
I.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Graduation cannot be
mentioned without Billy Madison
and the epic ballad.
Absolutely not.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Oh, my God, I'm glad
you worked that in because you
had mentioned it when we firstbrought up the episode.
Billy Madison, you know nowthat I've matured slightly.
I guess some of the stuff iscoming out or whatever and it's
an era thing, but overall thatmovie is great.
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I like a lot of the dumb humorin there, you know.
It's just fantastic.
Nonetheless, sorry.
And plus Norm MacDonald'samazing.
Anyway, oh, always.
God rest.
God rest indeed.
Good old Norm MacDonald,american Treasure.
He had some very weird jokes,yeah.
(16:41):
I mean like one was like 9-11.
Yeah, it reminds me of thatother tragedy, me, and it's like
what.
But how he would do stuff likethat.
It was like a whole differentstyle of comedy and it wasn't
like meant to just be purelyoffensive, I guess, but it came
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off that way quite a bit.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Yeah, I've never
heard that one yeah, it's from
his stand-up stuff.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
I was reading
actually about norm mcdonald
jokes, just uh, in preparationfor this episode for some reason
.
No, I'm just joking, anyway.
So you know, I don't know, Igraduated from high school.
You think you did?
I'm just joking.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
It's undetermined,
but I definitely didn't walk
Like well walked away, yeah,right before I graduated Grad.
Like well, walked away, yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Right before I
graduated, graduated from the
school of hard knocks oh yeah,me too.
Definitely, to an extent, Ifeel.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
I've lived places
without imported prosciutto okay
.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
Okay, okay, alright,
my bad dog, my bad, yeah, before
graduation, that was, that'svery American of you, owen
McMichael.
Before my graduation theyweren't going to let me Like,
for whatever reason they justdidn't because I had been in
trouble and stuff.
I don't know if I was onprobation at that time or
anything like that, but theyjust randomly were like nope,
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you're not able to becausewhatever reason I can't remember
.
And then like, so I was'tremember.
And then like, so I was there.
And then they all like, likeabout five minutes before it all
started, they told me I couldcome in the building and so
that's kind of how it worked out.
So I went from not being ableto to being able to and that's
my yeah, that's my graduationstory, guys.
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Also.
Uh, these days it's kind ofcrazy.
I'm not trying to discourageanybody from like graduating
high school, because I dobelieve like it is an
accomplishment for real.
Like going through school andfinishing it to the full extent
is a thing, guys, it really is.
But I also know that there'splenty of people who just say
they graduated high school whenthey put in job applications and
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it just nobody double checksthat shit, dude, they really
don't.
And also, unfortunately, Idon't feel that, uh, you know,
being a high school graduate isa requirement to having a
successful life or a happy oneeither.
So, uh, if you didn't graduatehigh school or something of that
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nature, out there, my, myfriends, don't let it hold you
back.
There's plenty of shit you cando, including lie on your job
application.
It may be the only time Iencourage you to lie, but go
ahead and do it on that one.
So, hey, man, thanks for doingthis episode.
It was cool.
We've been touching on some ofour more real-life experiences.
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Owen, we're trying to get ourfans out there, if you want to
call them that, I mean, or Idon't even know Whatever you
guys are out there in podcastland, our friends.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Our people.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Yeah, I would like
that better.
I don't want fans.
I like folks, man, in general Ilike our people.
So all our people out there.
We're trying to do thesestories that are more in touch
with what's going on in ourlives.
We're getting up close andpersonal ITS.
I tell stories for life.
You can check us out atpitlocksupplycom Maybe cop a
shirt.
If you're in Billings Montana,stop at Boogie's Bodega Cold
(20:09):
Smoke.
Boogie's Bodega you look upCold Smoke because it is a newer
business and it was you knowunder that for a while.
So that's what it is.
Uh, check owen out andhopefully just have a good day
indeed much love everybody.