December 23, 2024 • 31 mins
Garland Lo takes us on a personal journey through the vibrant musical landscape of his youth, growing up amidst the eclectic sounds of his London household. With a nod to nostalgia, Garland recalls his auntie's love for country tunes and the bold Britpop rebellion of Oasis that shaped his songwriting vision. Discover how iconic albums like the Beatles' "Revolver" and the swagger of the Gallagher brothers fueled his creative fire, leading to a rich tapestry of over 180 songs. Garland shares the serendipitous moments of inspiration that drive his songwriting, highlighting the delicate balance between catchy melodies and compelling storytelling.
But the journey doesn’t stop with Garland’s past. We explore his current artistic endeavors, from crafting evocative music videos with a DIY flair to ambitiously planning future releases. Garland's commitment to releasing four singles a year pushes him to explore new musical frontiers, leaving us with a sense of anticipation for what's next. As he reflects on his evolution from teenage aspirations to pushing production boundaries, the excitement in his voice is contagious. Don't miss the chance to hear directly from Garland about his growth and future plans, as he invites listeners into his world of nostalgic and hopeful love.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
One, two, three, four .
Don't believe when you saypretty baby, you're not right
(00:24):
for me, but I know what I know,so come on pretty.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
So here we are episode.
I don't know what episode it is.
Sorry, garland, I know it'sseason four and uh, today I have
garland low coming in from hisbeautiful home in London and we
(00:50):
are going to talk about hispretty impressive journey thus
far.
But there's much more to come,I'm sure, which we'll hear about
that at the end.
So, garland, thanks so much forhopping on here and joining us
for a chit chat.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Yeah, no pleasure.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Pleasure to be here.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
So, Garland, my first questions are always like can
you recollect some memories fromwhen you were a kid where music
kind of like slapped you in thehead and was like, hey, this is
cool, I like this.
Like, do you have some earlyrecollections of those
experiences?
Musical household, uh, so Igrew up my auntie and uncle and
they had three children who areall older than me and, uh, they,
their three children, mycousins, had their partners also
living in the same housetogether, so there was a lot of
people in this house so therewas, and there was so, and
(01:38):
everybody liked music, um, so myauntie loved country music, so
I heard a lot of that, uh, andespecially when on drunken
nights there were a lot ofdrunken nights not with me, I
was a kid uh but there were alot of drunken nights amongst
the adultsand the country music would be
played a lot.
That's, that's my memory of myauntie.
(02:00):
Uh, in terms of my cousins theyhad like various tastes and
their partners, so it would berap, uh, dance, um 60s stuff and
it was.
And you asked me like if therewas one sort of moment, yeah,
that I really got, really gotinto music, um, it would be
there were two moments.
I'd say it was first oasis, soyeah, yeah, so in the 90s you
(02:26):
had the whole Oasis, blurBritpop thing going on and that
just took over the culture ofthe UK and I was prime age to be
taken over for that culture.
I was like about 14 when thewhole Blur Oasis rivalry.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Their target audience really right, Exactly, exactly,
yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Get those teenagers young, get them coming to shows.
Yeah, right on.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
So that really got me into it, because even though
there was already a lot of musicin the house, I wasn't really
taken to any of the music thatwas being played to me.
Much Right, right, and it wasonly for Oasis that everybody in
the house disliked.
So maybe it was my way ofrebelling against what they
liked and kind of finding my ownthing Right right.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
What was it about Oasis that resonated with you
Like?
What was it that spoke to youso much?
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a great question.
Well, firstly, I would say thesongs, great songs, great
melodies, and so Noel Gallagher,as a songwriter, was my first
musical hero.
And then so, aside from thegreat songwriting, there was
that whole image and everythingthat the Gallagher brothers
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brought to being a rock and rollstar.
So it had that swagger, thatconfidence, that rock and roll
basically.
So I was drawn.
I was drawn to Noel'ssongwriting and Liam's presence
and I think, yeah, if you spoketo every Oasis fan, that would
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be the tooth.
That's what the magic of thatband was.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Right, and did you?
You, because it influenced youso much, do you find that you
carried that into when youstarted writing your own songs
of the personality and themelody and all those things that
kind of inspired you from them?
Did you, did you try toincorporate those into what you
wanted to do as well?
Speaker 3 (04:20):
yeah.
So when I first startedsongwriting they were all the
songs were just basicallycopying oasis songs.
Naturally you just that's whatyou like, so you just kind of
end up mocking copying that um.
So a lot of kind of uh, sort ofvery lean gallagher sort of
lines where, like, like um,where you draw out a sound, so a
lot like a typical thing thathe might say would be like, uh,
(04:44):
like world, so you draw out this, this word, and so a lot of my
like a typical thing that hemight say would be like like
world, so you draw out this word.
And so a lot of those earlysongs that I wrote which long
drawn out words had drawn outwords and, yes, the melody of
Noel Gallagher which comesnaturally to him and he was
influenced by the Beatles.
Right, right so that was kind ofmy second uh sort of in in some
(05:05):
in some music I read Revolverwas a big one for you, like that
was the first.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Beatles.
That was like wow, like what'sgoing on here?
Speaker 3 (05:12):
yeah and that the story.
So that, well, is that, that'sthat.
So my second way I got intomusic was Revolver, so first it
was this Oasis and then two wasRevolver.
It was because my cousin's thisoasis and then two was revolver
.
It was because my cousin's uhboyfriend partner uh, had had a
massive vinyl collection and um,so I just kind of flicked
through things and uh, and therewas this band called the
(05:34):
beatles and I said I don'tremember.
Oh yeah, oasis mentioned thebeatles.
I think they like what's thiswhat's this beatles band?
and, um, the cover was just abrilliant cover, so that just
stuck out.
Yeah so, um, so I would, when,um, everyone was the adults were
working um out of the house, Iwould just put on, uh, his
(05:55):
record.
He, he didn't like allow me totouch his vinyl, but when he was
out of the house.
No one knew so I put it on thething and I have a funny.
I'm going to tell you a sillystory and it's the fun first
time I think I've ever toldanybody's story.
I've been meaning to say it tohim.
So this is my cousin'sboyfriend, I don't know.
(06:17):
Anyway, I'll be as quick aspossible.
So he came back one day and saidhave you been touching my
record player?
I was like no, I was like I haduh.
Because he said because theneedle's broken.
And I was, oh shit, oh, no, no,no, no, uh, and basically I
just lied.
I just blatantly just lied tohim.
I didn't, and I, what I've beendoing was I've been playing
(06:37):
revolver just non-stop, uh, andI've been, and I'm like 41 years
old now and I still had.
I haven't had the guts to tellhim.
So this is the first time I'vetold anyone and uh, so we'll see
if he watches this and see whathis reaction will be anyway,
yeah, so playing revolver juston the loop was my second big
sort of discovery of music.
(06:58):
And then, through through that,it was basically everyone, from
like the kinks to the stonesand anyone who played guitar
right, right and like how didhow did music like fit into your
, into your history?
Speaker 2 (07:10):
because I know that you, you're, you're a vlogger as
well.
Like you have this great moderngrand tour, um, uh, youtube's
site where you travel around, oryou traveled around over three
months and recorded all thisstuff and put it out over a few
years.
What, where is that timelinefit?
Like?
When did you start actuallygetting serious about writing
(07:31):
music and and less doing thevlogging like?
What was your?
Was it a transition into, orcan you, can you fill in some
blanks?
Speaker 3 (07:39):
yeah, um, so the music was in terms of like music
versus vlogging.
The music was definitely cameway before the whole vlogging, I
think.
So, musically, I discoveredOasis in my teens and then
wanted to be in a band, and thenit wasn't until I was about 21
(08:01):
that I joined a band, and then Iwas in that band for a very
short time and then, once I leftthat band, I decided to form my
own band and then I met um, abass bassist, and we then
auditioned loads of type likewell, it seemed forever for the
(08:21):
right chemistry to find abassist sorry, a drummer and a
lead guitarist, and then, oncewe found, once we got that
together.
So by this time I'm now like 20, let's say 24.
And yeah, so, and that was my.
That was a great memory to likebeing young and being a band.
It's just a brilliantexperience.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
And then, how long did that go?
How long did you guys staytogether, like you said that it
didn't?
It didn't survive that longafter kind of going through all
these auditions and stuff, what,what, what was the demise?
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Yeah, we just imploded, like like bands do.
Basically, we were together forabout a year and a half and, um
, what we were together forabout a year and a half and
towards the end we all had, wewere all kind of slightly going
separate directions.
I know, for me, I wanted to domore traveling and I wanted to
(09:17):
go.
When I travel, I like to travelfor long periods.
So it was like, okay, I need totake a break from the band.
And then for the other members,um, that one particular member
of the band had, like a had apersonal issue which which meant
that once he left so he was thefirst to leave it meant that
we'd have to audition for thisanother guitarist.
(09:38):
And I thought, oh man, this isgonna, this is, we've been off,
been through the pain of alreadyauditioning for a guitarist,
and so when he left, it feltlike a really big blow and we
did think about staying togetheras a three.
But then I was planning toleave anyway.
So I thought, let's see, well,let's just have a break.
And then by the time I cameback, it was just everyone had
(09:58):
moved on.
So it was a real and it's likemy one, if I think back upon my
my 40 years of life it is my oneof my biggest regrets of not
actually continue with thatCause I felt towards the end we
got to a point where we werepretty hot.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
We were pretty good, what was your style?
Like what was that style?
Speaker 3 (10:20):
That first band that we were like so it was around
the time vampire weekend wasbreaking out, I think okay, uh,
so we had that uh, jangly indiepop sound.
So I was the I was the mainsongwriter for that band.
So we can you can hear, stillhear that all the indie pop
stuff that I do now, uh, but Iwould say the difference between
my that band and what I do nowis we cause the other three guys
(10:44):
were just brilliant technicians, they were brilliant musicians
uh, way better than I am as amusician, and so I I could have,
I could say my songs would justExcel to the maximum level of
quality, whereas I feel with myown stuff I'm doing what I can
to make it decent.
But I know that if I had likebetter guitarist or a better
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keyboardist or drummer, it couldbe another level, um, so, yeah,
so it's a shame, and I didthink about.
There's like a few songs thatwe, you know, we have on our
laptop that I did think, oh,maybe we should just put them
out and see what people think,um, but yeah, yeah, so that is
one of my.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Can you share what the name of that first band was
called?
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Yeah, so we started off being called the Robot
Pirate Dinosaurs.
Wow.
I don't think there's much onthe internet, and then we
changed our name to the SecretHistory.
So, chris, you can go and dosome digging up and see what you
can find.
I think there might be somesort of older YouTube, maybe
like one or two things onYouTube.
(11:44):
I'm not sure.
I've not checked it, but seewhat you can find.
In fact if you like I can sendyou one of my songs.
Oh, I'd love that.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
And then you can just have a listen.
Yeah, I'd love to.
I love looking at histories ofand the shifting of music and
your process as a songwriter.
Could we like?
What's your process to come upwith songs and has it changed
over time?
Speaker 3 (12:11):
no-transcript uh, how do I get from nine to a song?
Um, for me, um, songwriting, Ifor me, I feel songwriting comes
very easily to me.
It's, of all the differentaspects of music, it's my
strength, um, and it's the thingI enjoy the most.
And I would happily, um just bea songwriter and give the the
(12:32):
raw, basic music song to otherbetter musicians and let them
perform and do whatever theywant to do.
Um, so, but to answer yourquestion, how do I come up with
a song?
Um, I might just be watching thetv and I have a like I'm guitar
in hand, just like twiddlingaway, not really focusing on
anything particular, and thenI'll be like what's that?
That's a little hooky, and thenI'll have to stop the tv and
(12:54):
I'll get the phone out to record, and then I might come back to
it later in the week and work onit, and it might take several
months before I get to finish it.
Or if I'm really keen on thesong and I've got the time and
the day, I'll just work on itright there and then and just
finish off.
So you hear a lot of the timemusicians say it wrote itself in
(13:15):
20 minutes and that's when theyknew it was good.
So sometimes it happens likethat, sometimes they're really
quick, uh, and other times a lotof the time in fact.
Um, I will just recordsomething and it will just sit
on my phone for absolutely agesum yeah, yeah, because I read
that you have 179 songs.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Now maybe that's changed.
That was what I was reading,that you had and you have about
seven or eight singles thatyou've put out.
Is that is?
Speaker 3 (13:41):
that accurate?
Yeah, yeah, so now I think it'sabout like 180 something.
Yeah, it's eight singles so far.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Yeah right, right and and like, how do you know?
Like when a song, when you'reon to something like what
reveals itself in the song, thatthat you say, okay, I'm this is
worth, like saving it, or likebuilding on, or okay, I'm going
to take the afternoon to writethis out like what?
What is it about yoursongwriting that sparks inside
(14:08):
you when you know you're ontosomething?
Speaker 3 (14:11):
yeah, uh, a little hook, it's just it.
Just.
All it takes is just one hookand I go that.
That that's nice, that'sinteresting, um, that's
memorable, um and um, yeah, um,that's it really if it's.
If it's hooky, it's it.
And there'll be loads of timeswhere I'm twiddling away and, uh
, nothing comes out.
Um, so I have those times too.
Loads of those experiences sure,and then suddenly you go this
(14:33):
golden moment where you go oh,that's, that's really nice, you
know, make sure.
And then sometimes what I'vedone in the past is you go oh,
that's really nice, I'llremember that.
And then you do something else.
You come back and go oh, whatwas it?
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Oh, philosophy, and then you feel like, oh damn, so
yeah, and so you're saying thatyou're noodling and playing
around with the.
You know a couple of chordswill inspire.
Where do your lyrics come in?
Because I noticed that they arevery storyteller-like right.
They're almost third person allthe time, where you're
observing, kind of from anoutside perspective, what
(15:10):
informs your song, the actualsongwriting, lyric-wise, like,
is it daily things that happen,experiences that you've had,
like where do you, where do youdraw your lyrics and your
stories from?
Speaker 3 (15:24):
yeah, well, I think I think over the time of my
songwriting it's changed.
So, as a younger person, when Ifirst started songwriting, um,
it would be made up stuffbecause I didn't really have
many experiences to actually putinto song.
And, funny enough, when Iremember, if you asked me this
question when I was 17, let'ssay I would have told you lyrics
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aren't important, it's all.
I would have said melody is themost important thing and I can
sing absolute gobbledygook andthe key thing is melody.
But now I would say they'reboth important.
I would still say melody isstill king for me, um, but uh,
lyrics wise, that that's anotherway for the listener to get
(16:08):
into the song.
So, even so, I feel that if the, if the melody doesn't grab you
instantly, there might be alyric in there which makes its
way into your brain and then youcan appreciate the song more,
or another way to appreciate thesong.
So, yeah, so to answer yourquestion, where do I, as an
older person, my own experiences?
Yeah, my own experience.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Right, and do you tend to revolve around similar
themes or do you do you wantthem to be always very
individual, always very like anindividual theme that you're
putting into the song?
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Can you say that question again?
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Well, when you're writing them, like, what kinds
of themes do you tend to dabblein?
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Oh, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So my eight songs I've producedso far they all have, apart
from the first one.
I would say the theme is loveand the theme is nostalgic love
and that comes from my timeright now of being a single guy
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and wanting love and thinkingabout old love.
So I think if you take awayCaptain Elon, my first song,
they all, they all have, they'reall very strongly about about
love and should I, when I findmy partner, suddenly there will
be really happy songs about love.
So I think the last seven songskind of are kind of they're
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hopeful songs about love.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Cool.
Yeah, I enjoyed your videos too.
I mean, they're they're very,um, you know, like DIY for sure,
but they have this charm tothem and I think that it's your
like.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
You built all those videos right, like yeah, yeah, I
just, I made them all myself.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Right, right, and like what?
What inspires your videocreation?
Cause I know, like I mentionedbefore, that you've that you had
a vlog where you have tons ofthese really cool travel videos
that you made.
What's the difference betweenkind of doing that, where you're
kind of reporting on thehistory of something, to
creating a video around a themeof love?
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Well.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
I suppose I suppose the difference in terms of like
vlogging and when I'm making mymusic video uh is I can be much
more creative uh in my musicvideo, because there's, there's,
I can do anything I want.
Uh, a vlog has a certain format.
Uh, and you're, and you're,you're wanting, you're wanting
to, also, because my mom's quiteeducated, my educate, my vlogs
are quite educational, right?
(18:35):
Um, there's, I'm sticking to a,there's a script and it's.
It feels like a much more formalprocess right um, with the
music videos I can just letloose and do whatever I want, uh
, so they're, they're quitedifferent, like.
So the last one is this kind ofweird animation thing and I've
had a lego one and I've had oneswhere I'm, where I'm in it in a
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park and uh, it feels like avlogging style one.
Uh, the i1, where the i1, whereI'm in my house, in my flat, uh
, I think the, the one thing Iwould say about my the I think
they're quite.
I would say about my musicmusic videos they're quite
creative and the reason they'recreative?
because I've got no budget rightso I've had to, like think
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outside the box.
And then what can I do?
With no budget and basically nocrew to help me out?
I've just got one camera and atripod and me.
Uh, there were a couple oftimes where I did manage to.
So I think on um, lover's,lover and London, tell Me why I
had my friends, one friendhelping me each time.
(19:43):
But yeah, I think on all theother times it was just
literally me trying to work itout.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Well, Pretty Baby, that's the one, your animation,
one which I just find socharming.
That must have taken forevertoo, though, to snip it together
like that.
It's like those aren't?
Those aren't small.
There's so many photos in thereso so actually no, okay explain
forever no uh, I tell you theone that took forever.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Yeah uh, steve rogers , the one with the Lego.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Right, right, that's impressive.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
Yeah, that's cool.
Yeah, so Steve Rogers tookforever because I had to buy all
the Lego and I had to buy theright Lego.
And then it was me.
I set it all up and it was justme holding the camera but
trying to move the Lego at thesame time.
And it was just like andsometimes because I'm just not
strong enough and like I'mholding the camera for ages, I'm
holding the lego for ages andmy arm was just wanting to die.
(20:43):
Uh, and that took for that tooka long time and that, but that
was worth it.
It was the best bit, my thingon my best video um, oh, it's
really entertaining.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
I mean, they're all entertaining and and like,
what's exciting is that youdon't know what you're going to
do.
You know, like the video startsand you're like, okay, what's
he going to do now?
It's like they're very, verycreative and everyone is its own
kind of little capsule into intime for you and you mentioned
before that you would ratherjust races, write songs and then
(21:16):
have somebody else perform them.
What, what have you played,like your stuff live, yet, um,
in front of people, um, at ashow or anything like that.
Has that happened?
Speaker 3 (21:26):
no, I've not as, as in the last two years, as a solo
artist I've not ever playedlive.
I tried, I tried to form a bandlast year.
I just found that quitehassling Because for me it has
to be the right chemistry If I'mgoing to be hanging around with
these people.
I want us to get on.
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That's really, really importantto me.
So yeah, so I tried to form aband.
That didn't quite work out, andthen I thought it might just be
easier just to do it alone.
I know I'd love to be able togo.
I'd the dream would be to getthe old band back together.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Uh, like they say, let's get the band back together
right yeah well, I'm excited tohear this track that you're
gonna send me, for sure, and if,if it blows my mind, you know
I'm going to start hassling you,garland, like, get the band
together, come on we did.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
You know what we actually?
We uh, we had um for the.
So, yeah, we all went ourseparate ways.
We all live in different partsof the country, but we actually
had a zoom call.
Uh, there were the three of us.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
There was four there were so four in the band.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
but the three of us had a zoom call about a few
months ago in the summer and, uh, we did talk about it and um,
and it was I think I, we, I, Iwanted the four, I wanted our
guitarist to back and I, I saidto him it.
It wouldn't feel right withoutour guitarist and uh, so if, if
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we can get our guitarist back in, I would be.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
I would travel the distance the miles to get that
band together, uh, but it's justgetting him on board.
So, yes, well, I mean, there'slots of time still um yeah who
knows?
you know these things you knowit's interesting that you
mentioned that too, because I'vebeen kind of thinking about why
bands have kind of disappearedalmost in a sense, like sure,
(23:25):
reunion bands, oasis, come backbig and you know, like that
still exists, like theseresurgence of, but there seems
to be like if you look atbillboards and like you know the
charts, it tends to be a lot ofindividuals in very few bands.
Do you think it has to do withthat?
Just that um, relationshipproblem that happens in bands,
(23:48):
like if you don't love eachother or aren't friends, it
really can start to affect whatyou're trying to, what your
purpose is um well, I supposethere's.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
I mean, there's been bands all throughout, well,
since bands formed to to up toup to now, where there's not
many bands.
So the question would be whynow?
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
What do you?
Speaker 2 (24:16):
think.
What is your feel about that?
Speaker 3 (24:19):
Yeah.
The question to why now, thismoment in time, I don't know.
Maybe it's just a shift inmusical taste.
So every period goes through aperiod and maybe this period is
more like a singer-songwriterkind of style as opposed to
heavy guitar rock sounds, andmaybe in a few years' time the
(24:44):
next kind of musical wave willbe that heavy rock sound and
bands will make a resurgence.
Uh, not yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
So yeah, that's yeah, but yeah, I've never really
yeah, I think too, like thepandemic still is kind of like
we're still feeling thataftershock where people had to
go back into their bedrooms andrecord their stuff and, you know
, would put it out via band campor on youtube or they'd find
social platforms to put it, soyou couldn't really be in a band
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right for two years or so, likeit just was impossible for it,
and that that's kind of likecarried through where it's now.
Just, you know, our biggeststars now are not bands.
You know there's no big u2s oryou know the who or the beatles
or um, we have like very likesinger, songwriters, like what
you were saying.
(25:33):
I just find that kind ofinteresting that what are all
the factors that contributed tothat kind of shift in our, in
our landscape?
Speaker 3 (25:41):
of music.
That's a really good point, butI'm not something I thought of
before, but it's really such ait's such a good point because
Not something I thought ofbefore, but it's really such a
good point because that's how Ikind of started.
There was this time, it was theCOVID period and I had loads of
time so I could go on my laptopand finish these half-baked
songs, and I'm sure there mustbe so many other musicians like
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me who basically, yeah, went thesame route.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Yeah, absolutely, that's super interesting.
I like these reflections thatwe're having here.
Garland so, as we kind of bringthings to a close here, what
can we look forward to fromGarland Low?
What's coming down the pipe?
I mean, your latest single isgreat.
Are you assembling or amassingan EP or a record?
Are you going to hit the road?
(26:26):
Are you going to do a show?
Can you tell us anything aboutthe future from what's?
What's looks the rest of 2024into 2025 for you?
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Yeah, so well.
2024 now musically is, is donefor me and I think the the the
format so far, the formula I'vestuck, I've stuck to is four
singles a year.
So I've done eight now.
So there'll be another fourcoming next year and three have
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already been recorded, so I'mhappy with them.
Yeah, I kind of impressed myselfreally with the new three if I
can say so myself because I'vetried to kind of push the
boundaries of what I can do alittle bit more.
So I would say, the ones thatyou've heard previously, I've
kind of been very safe,especially the Pretty Babies,
like a song I wrote when I was17.
(27:17):
So it's a very safe song, it'skind of what I do, whereas the
next three they're a little bitmore.
I've pushed myself a bit morein terms of musically and
production wise.
So yeah, you've got that tolook forward to Amazing, amazing
.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
So we have four singles that are surely dropping
in 2025.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
Yeah, well, three.
So three have definitely.
They've been made.
They were already to be pushedout.
I just need to make the musicvideos and then the fourth one
will be recorded, once I findthe time to.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
But yeah, amazing, amazing.
Well, garland, this has been areally fun chat.
I love your enthusiasm and yourthoughtfulness.
I really enjoying your singlesas well.
Keep it up.
I love this kind of concept youhave of launching singles and
they're all numbered and youhave your own videos that go
along with it.
Just the aesthetic is reallycool and your storytelling is
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great.
I I mean, you're such a greatuh great writer, so please
continue doing it, and I lookforward to seeing what's next.
I'm uh excited to hear thissingle from your band, your old
band, and your next singles thatcome down the road.
And if ever you want to hopback on and share more stuff,
hey, I'd love to have you backwell, brilliant, I've enjoyed.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
I've enjoyed every second of this as well.
So, thanks so much.
I'm really like so pleased justto be like doing stuff like
this.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Yeah, this is my own musical journey, so, uh, yeah
thank you, thank you so much,cheers man okay, nice one cheers
don't believe when you saypretty baby, you're not right
(29:04):
for me, but I know what I know.
So come on, pretty baby Put alittle faith in me.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Give you the world if you want it.
Pretty baby Girl, I'm on myknees, what do?
Speaker 1 (29:23):
I have to do if.
I want to get with you.
Could you draw a picture please?
It doesn't matter what theothers say, it's what we do,
cause you're my pretty baby andI really don't mean.
Maybe when.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
I say I want to spend my life with you.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
But she said baby, you don't get in for free.
You gotta learn the rules likethe ABC.
You better slow down.
You're only 17, don't behanging signs on me.
I make you smile when I callyou pretty baby, but it's not of
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the kind I want.
You're just laughing at me,failing me truly.
Maybe it's the time I'll stop.
It doesn't matter what theothers say, it's what we do,
cause you're my pretty baby andI really don't mean maybe, when
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I say I want to spend my lifewith you.
But she said baby, you don'tget in for free.
You gotta learn the rules likethe ABC.
You better slow down.
You're only 17, don't behanging signs on me.
Then she said Baby, you don'tget it for free, you gotta learn
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the rules Like the A, b, c,your battle.
Slow down, you're only 17,don't be hanging signs on me.
One, two, three, four .
Don't believe when you saypretty baby, you're not right
(00:24):
for me, but I know what I know,so come on pretty.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
So here we are episode.
I don't know what episode it is.
Sorry, garland, I know it'sseason four and uh, today I have
garland low coming in from hisbeautiful home in London and we
(00:50):
are going to talk about hispretty impressive journey thus
far.
But there's much more to come,I'm sure, which we'll hear about
that at the end.
So, garland, thanks so much forhopping on here and joining us
for a chit chat.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Yeah, no pleasure.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Pleasure to be here.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
So, Garland, my first questions are always like can
you recollect some memories fromwhen you were a kid where music
kind of like slapped you in thehead and was like, hey, this is
cool, I like this.
Like, do you have some earlyrecollections of those
experiences?
Musical household, uh, so Igrew up my auntie and uncle and
they had three children who areall older than me and, uh, they,
their three children, mycousins, had their partners also
living in the same housetogether, so there was a lot of
people in this house so therewas, and there was so, and
(01:38):
everybody liked music, um, so myauntie loved country music, so
I heard a lot of that, uh, andespecially when on drunken
nights there were a lot ofdrunken nights not with me, I
was a kid uh but there were alot of drunken nights amongst
the adultsand the country music would be
played a lot.
That's, that's my memory of myauntie.
(02:00):
Uh, in terms of my cousins theyhad like various tastes and
their partners, so it would berap, uh, dance, um 60s stuff and
it was.
And you asked me like if therewas one sort of moment, yeah,
that I really got, really gotinto music, um, it would be
there were two moments.
I'd say it was first oasis, soyeah, yeah, so in the 90s you
(02:26):
had the whole Oasis, blurBritpop thing going on and that
just took over the culture ofthe UK and I was prime age to be
taken over for that culture.
I was like about 14 when thewhole Blur Oasis rivalry.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Their target audience really right, Exactly, exactly,
yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Get those teenagers young, get them coming to shows.
Yeah, right on.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
So that really got me into it, because even though
there was already a lot of musicin the house, I wasn't really
taken to any of the music thatwas being played to me.
Much Right, right, and it wasonly for Oasis that everybody in
the house disliked.
So maybe it was my way ofrebelling against what they
liked and kind of finding my ownthing Right right.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
What was it about Oasis that resonated with you
Like?
What was it that spoke to youso much?
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a great question.
Well, firstly, I would say thesongs, great songs, great
melodies, and so Noel Gallagher,as a songwriter, was my first
musical hero.
And then so, aside from thegreat songwriting, there was
that whole image and everythingthat the Gallagher brothers
(03:38):
brought to being a rock and rollstar.
So it had that swagger, thatconfidence, that rock and roll
basically.
So I was drawn.
I was drawn to Noel'ssongwriting and Liam's presence
and I think, yeah, if you spoketo every Oasis fan, that would
(03:59):
be the tooth.
That's what the magic of thatband was.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Right, and did you?
You, because it influenced youso much, do you find that you
carried that into when youstarted writing your own songs
of the personality and themelody and all those things that
kind of inspired you from them?
Did you, did you try toincorporate those into what you
wanted to do as well?
Speaker 3 (04:20):
yeah.
So when I first startedsongwriting they were all the
songs were just basicallycopying oasis songs.
Naturally you just that's whatyou like, so you just kind of
end up mocking copying that um.
So a lot of kind of uh, sort ofvery lean gallagher sort of
lines where, like, like um,where you draw out a sound, so a
lot like a typical thing thathe might say would be like, uh,
(04:44):
like world, so you draw out this, this word, and so a lot of my
like a typical thing that hemight say would be like like
world, so you draw out this word.
And so a lot of those earlysongs that I wrote which long
drawn out words had drawn outwords and, yes, the melody of
Noel Gallagher which comesnaturally to him and he was
influenced by the Beatles.
Right, right so that was kind ofmy second uh sort of in in some
(05:05):
in some music I read Revolverwas a big one for you, like that
was the first.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Beatles.
That was like wow, like what'sgoing on here?
Speaker 3 (05:12):
yeah and that the story.
So that, well, is that, that'sthat.
So my second way I got intomusic was Revolver, so first it
was this Oasis and then two wasRevolver.
It was because my cousin's thisoasis and then two was revolver
.
It was because my cousin's uhboyfriend partner uh, had had a
massive vinyl collection and um,so I just kind of flicked
through things and uh, and therewas this band called the
(05:34):
beatles and I said I don'tremember.
Oh yeah, oasis mentioned thebeatles.
I think they like what's thiswhat's this beatles band?
and, um, the cover was just abrilliant cover, so that just
stuck out.
Yeah so, um, so I would, when,um, everyone was the adults were
working um out of the house, Iwould just put on, uh, his
(05:55):
record.
He, he didn't like allow me totouch his vinyl, but when he was
out of the house.
No one knew so I put it on thething and I have a funny.
I'm going to tell you a sillystory and it's the fun first
time I think I've ever toldanybody's story.
I've been meaning to say it tohim.
So this is my cousin'sboyfriend, I don't know.
(06:17):
Anyway, I'll be as quick aspossible.
So he came back one day and saidhave you been touching my
record player?
I was like no, I was like I haduh.
Because he said because theneedle's broken.
And I was, oh shit, oh, no, no,no, no, uh, and basically I
just lied.
I just blatantly just lied tohim.
I didn't, and I, what I've beendoing was I've been playing
(06:37):
revolver just non-stop, uh, andI've been, and I'm like 41 years
old now and I still had.
I haven't had the guts to tellhim.
So this is the first time I'vetold anyone and uh, so we'll see
if he watches this and see whathis reaction will be anyway,
yeah, so playing revolver juston the loop was my second big
sort of discovery of music.
(06:58):
And then, through through that,it was basically everyone, from
like the kinks to the stonesand anyone who played guitar
right, right and like how didhow did music like fit into your
, into your history?
Speaker 2 (07:10):
because I know that you, you're, you're a vlogger as
well.
Like you have this great moderngrand tour, um, uh, youtube's
site where you travel around, oryou traveled around over three
months and recorded all thisstuff and put it out over a few
years.
What, where is that timelinefit?
Like?
When did you start actuallygetting serious about writing
(07:31):
music and and less doing thevlogging like?
What was your?
Was it a transition into, orcan you, can you fill in some
blanks?
Speaker 3 (07:39):
yeah, um, so the music was in terms of like music
versus vlogging.
The music was definitely cameway before the whole vlogging, I
think.
So, musically, I discoveredOasis in my teens and then
wanted to be in a band, and thenit wasn't until I was about 21
(08:01):
that I joined a band, and then Iwas in that band for a very
short time and then, once I leftthat band, I decided to form my
own band and then I met um, abass bassist, and we then
auditioned loads of type likewell, it seemed forever for the
(08:21):
right chemistry to find abassist sorry, a drummer and a
lead guitarist, and then, oncewe found, once we got that
together.
So by this time I'm now like 20, let's say 24.
And yeah, so, and that was my.
That was a great memory to likebeing young and being a band.
It's just a brilliantexperience.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
And then, how long did that go?
How long did you guys staytogether, like you said that it
didn't?
It didn't survive that longafter kind of going through all
these auditions and stuff, what,what, what was the demise?
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Yeah, we just imploded, like like bands do.
Basically, we were together forabout a year and a half and, um
, what we were together forabout a year and a half and
towards the end we all had, wewere all kind of slightly going
separate directions.
I know, for me, I wanted to domore traveling and I wanted to
(09:17):
go.
When I travel, I like to travelfor long periods.
So it was like, okay, I need totake a break from the band.
And then for the other members,um, that one particular member
of the band had, like a had apersonal issue which which meant
that once he left so he was thefirst to leave it meant that
we'd have to audition for thisanother guitarist.
(09:38):
And I thought, oh man, this isgonna, this is, we've been off,
been through the pain of alreadyauditioning for a guitarist,
and so when he left, it feltlike a really big blow and we
did think about staying togetheras a three.
But then I was planning toleave anyway.
So I thought, let's see, well,let's just have a break.
And then by the time I cameback, it was just everyone had
(09:58):
moved on.
So it was a real and it's likemy one, if I think back upon my
my 40 years of life it is my oneof my biggest regrets of not
actually continue with thatCause I felt towards the end we
got to a point where we werepretty hot.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
We were pretty good, what was your style?
Like what was that style?
Speaker 3 (10:20):
That first band that we were like so it was around
the time vampire weekend wasbreaking out, I think okay, uh,
so we had that uh, jangly indiepop sound.
So I was the I was the mainsongwriter for that band.
So we can you can hear, stillhear that all the indie pop
stuff that I do now, uh, but Iwould say the difference between
my that band and what I do nowis we cause the other three guys
(10:44):
were just brilliant technicians, they were brilliant musicians
uh, way better than I am as amusician, and so I I could have,
I could say my songs would justExcel to the maximum level of
quality, whereas I feel with myown stuff I'm doing what I can
to make it decent.
But I know that if I had likebetter guitarist or a better
(11:05):
keyboardist or drummer, it couldbe another level, um, so, yeah,
so it's a shame, and I didthink about.
There's like a few songs thatwe, you know, we have on our
laptop that I did think, oh,maybe we should just put them
out and see what people think,um, but yeah, yeah, so that is
one of my.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Can you share what the name of that first band was
called?
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Yeah, so we started off being called the Robot
Pirate Dinosaurs.
Wow.
I don't think there's much onthe internet, and then we
changed our name to the SecretHistory.
So, chris, you can go and dosome digging up and see what you
can find.
I think there might be somesort of older YouTube, maybe
like one or two things onYouTube.
(11:44):
I'm not sure.
I've not checked it, but seewhat you can find.
In fact if you like I can sendyou one of my songs.
Oh, I'd love that.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
And then you can just have a listen.
Yeah, I'd love to.
I love looking at histories ofand the shifting of music and
your process as a songwriter.
Could we like?
What's your process to come upwith songs and has it changed
over time?
Speaker 3 (12:11):
no-transcript uh, how do I get from nine to a song?
Um, for me, um, songwriting, Ifor me, I feel songwriting comes
very easily to me.
It's, of all the differentaspects of music, it's my
strength, um, and it's the thingI enjoy the most.
And I would happily, um just bea songwriter and give the the
(12:32):
raw, basic music song to otherbetter musicians and let them
perform and do whatever theywant to do.
Um, so, but to answer yourquestion, how do I come up with
a song?
Um, I might just be watching thetv and I have a like I'm guitar
in hand, just like twiddlingaway, not really focusing on
anything particular, and thenI'll be like what's that?
That's a little hooky, and thenI'll have to stop the tv and
(12:54):
I'll get the phone out to record, and then I might come back to
it later in the week and work onit, and it might take several
months before I get to finish it.
Or if I'm really keen on thesong and I've got the time and
the day, I'll just work on itright there and then and just
finish off.
So you hear a lot of the timemusicians say it wrote itself in
(13:15):
20 minutes and that's when theyknew it was good.
So sometimes it happens likethat, sometimes they're really
quick, uh, and other times a lotof the time in fact.
Um, I will just recordsomething and it will just sit
on my phone for absolutely agesum yeah, yeah, because I read
that you have 179 songs.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Now maybe that's changed.
That was what I was reading,that you had and you have about
seven or eight singles thatyou've put out.
Is that is?
Speaker 3 (13:41):
that accurate?
Yeah, yeah, so now I think it'sabout like 180 something.
Yeah, it's eight singles so far.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Yeah right, right and and like, how do you know?
Like when a song, when you'reon to something like what
reveals itself in the song, thatthat you say, okay, I'm this is
worth, like saving it, or likebuilding on, or okay, I'm going
to take the afternoon to writethis out like what?
What is it about yoursongwriting that sparks inside
(14:08):
you when you know you're ontosomething?
Speaker 3 (14:11):
yeah, uh, a little hook, it's just it.
Just.
All it takes is just one hookand I go that.
That that's nice, that'sinteresting, um, that's
memorable, um and um, yeah, um,that's it really if it's.
If it's hooky, it's it.
And there'll be loads of timeswhere I'm twiddling away and, uh
, nothing comes out.
Um, so I have those times too.
Loads of those experiences sure,and then suddenly you go this
(14:33):
golden moment where you go oh,that's, that's really nice, you
know, make sure.
And then sometimes what I'vedone in the past is you go oh,
that's really nice, I'llremember that.
And then you do something else.
You come back and go oh, whatwas it?
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Oh, philosophy, and then you feel like, oh damn, so
yeah, and so you're saying thatyou're noodling and playing
around with the.
You know a couple of chordswill inspire.
Where do your lyrics come in?
Because I noticed that they arevery storyteller-like right.
They're almost third person allthe time, where you're
observing, kind of from anoutside perspective, what
(15:10):
informs your song, the actualsongwriting, lyric-wise, like,
is it daily things that happen,experiences that you've had,
like where do you, where do youdraw your lyrics and your
stories from?
Speaker 3 (15:24):
yeah, well, I think I think over the time of my
songwriting it's changed.
So, as a younger person, when Ifirst started songwriting, um,
it would be made up stuffbecause I didn't really have
many experiences to actually putinto song.
And, funny enough, when Iremember, if you asked me this
question when I was 17, let'ssay I would have told you lyrics
(15:45):
aren't important, it's all.
I would have said melody is themost important thing and I can
sing absolute gobbledygook andthe key thing is melody.
But now I would say they'reboth important.
I would still say melody isstill king for me, um, but uh,
lyrics wise, that that's anotherway for the listener to get
(16:08):
into the song.
So, even so, I feel that if the, if the melody doesn't grab you
instantly, there might be alyric in there which makes its
way into your brain and then youcan appreciate the song more,
or another way to appreciate thesong.
So, yeah, so to answer yourquestion, where do I, as an
older person, my own experiences?
Yeah, my own experience.
Speaker 2 (16:29):
Right, and do you tend to revolve around similar
themes or do you do you wantthem to be always very
individual, always very like anindividual theme that you're
putting into the song?
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Can you say that question again?
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Well, when you're writing them, like, what kinds
of themes do you tend to dabblein?
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Oh, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So my eight songs I've producedso far they all have, apart
from the first one.
I would say the theme is loveand the theme is nostalgic love
and that comes from my timeright now of being a single guy
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and wanting love and thinkingabout old love.
So I think if you take awayCaptain Elon, my first song,
they all, they all have, they'reall very strongly about about
love and should I, when I findmy partner, suddenly there will
be really happy songs about love.
So I think the last seven songskind of are kind of they're
(17:34):
hopeful songs about love.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Cool.
Yeah, I enjoyed your videos too.
I mean, they're they're very,um, you know, like DIY for sure,
but they have this charm tothem and I think that it's your
like.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
You built all those videos right, like yeah, yeah, I
just, I made them all myself.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Right, right, and like what?
What inspires your videocreation?
Cause I know, like I mentionedbefore, that you've that you had
a vlog where you have tons ofthese really cool travel videos
that you made.
What's the difference betweenkind of doing that, where you're
kind of reporting on thehistory of something, to
creating a video around a themeof love?
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Well.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
I suppose I suppose the difference in terms of like
vlogging and when I'm making mymusic video uh is I can be much
more creative uh in my musicvideo, because there's, there's,
I can do anything I want.
Uh, a vlog has a certain format.
Uh, and you're, and you're,you're wanting, you're wanting
to, also, because my mom's quiteeducated, my educate, my vlogs
are quite educational, right?
(18:35):
Um, there's, I'm sticking to a,there's a script and it's.
It feels like a much more formalprocess right um, with the
music videos I can just letloose and do whatever I want, uh
, so they're, they're quitedifferent, like.
So the last one is this kind ofweird animation thing and I've
had a lego one and I've had oneswhere I'm, where I'm in it in a
(18:57):
park and uh, it feels like avlogging style one.
Uh, the i1, where the i1, whereI'm in my house, in my flat, uh
, I think the, the one thing Iwould say about my the I think
they're quite.
I would say about my musicmusic videos they're quite
creative and the reason they'recreative?
because I've got no budget rightso I've had to, like think
(19:21):
outside the box.
And then what can I do?
With no budget and basically nocrew to help me out?
I've just got one camera and atripod and me.
Uh, there were a couple oftimes where I did manage to.
So I think on um, lover's,lover and London, tell Me why I
had my friends, one friendhelping me each time.
(19:43):
But yeah, I think on all theother times it was just
literally me trying to work itout.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Well, Pretty Baby, that's the one, your animation,
one which I just find socharming.
That must have taken forevertoo, though, to snip it together
like that.
It's like those aren't?
Those aren't small.
There's so many photos in thereso so actually no, okay explain
forever no uh, I tell you theone that took forever.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Yeah uh, steve rogers , the one with the Lego.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Right, right, that's impressive.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
Yeah, that's cool.
Yeah, so Steve Rogers tookforever because I had to buy all
the Lego and I had to buy theright Lego.
And then it was me.
I set it all up and it was justme holding the camera but
trying to move the Lego at thesame time.
And it was just like andsometimes because I'm just not
strong enough and like I'mholding the camera for ages, I'm
holding the lego for ages andmy arm was just wanting to die.
(20:43):
Uh, and that took for that tooka long time and that, but that
was worth it.
It was the best bit, my thingon my best video um, oh, it's
really entertaining.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
I mean, they're all entertaining and and like,
what's exciting is that youdon't know what you're going to
do.
You know, like the video startsand you're like, okay, what's
he going to do now?
It's like they're very, verycreative and everyone is its own
kind of little capsule into intime for you and you mentioned
before that you would ratherjust races, write songs and then
(21:16):
have somebody else perform them.
What, what have you played,like your stuff live, yet, um,
in front of people, um, at ashow or anything like that.
Has that happened?
Speaker 3 (21:26):
no, I've not as, as in the last two years, as a solo
artist I've not ever playedlive.
I tried, I tried to form a bandlast year.
I just found that quitehassling Because for me it has
to be the right chemistry If I'mgoing to be hanging around with
these people.
I want us to get on.
(21:48):
That's really, really importantto me.
So yeah, so I tried to form aband.
That didn't quite work out, andthen I thought it might just be
easier just to do it alone.
I know I'd love to be able togo.
I'd the dream would be to getthe old band back together.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Uh, like they say, let's get the band back together
right yeah well, I'm excited tohear this track that you're
gonna send me, for sure, and if,if it blows my mind, you know
I'm going to start hassling you,garland, like, get the band
together, come on we did.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
You know what we actually?
We uh, we had um for the.
So, yeah, we all went ourseparate ways.
We all live in different partsof the country, but we actually
had a zoom call.
Uh, there were the three of us.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
There was four there were so four in the band.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
but the three of us had a zoom call about a few
months ago in the summer and, uh, we did talk about it and um,
and it was I think I, we, I, Iwanted the four, I wanted our
guitarist to back and I, I saidto him it.
It wouldn't feel right withoutour guitarist and uh, so if, if
(23:00):
we can get our guitarist back in, I would be.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
I would travel the distance the miles to get that
band together, uh, but it's justgetting him on board.
So, yes, well, I mean, there'slots of time still um yeah who
knows?
you know these things you knowit's interesting that you
mentioned that too, because I'vebeen kind of thinking about why
bands have kind of disappearedalmost in a sense, like sure,
(23:25):
reunion bands, oasis, come backbig and you know, like that
still exists, like theseresurgence of, but there seems
to be like if you look atbillboards and like you know the
charts, it tends to be a lot ofindividuals in very few bands.
Do you think it has to do withthat?
Just that um, relationshipproblem that happens in bands,
(23:48):
like if you don't love eachother or aren't friends, it
really can start to affect whatyou're trying to, what your
purpose is um well, I supposethere's.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
I mean, there's been bands all throughout, well,
since bands formed to to up toup to now, where there's not
many bands.
So the question would be whynow?
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
What do you?
Speaker 2 (24:16):
think.
What is your feel about that?
Speaker 3 (24:19):
Yeah.
The question to why now, thismoment in time, I don't know.
Maybe it's just a shift inmusical taste.
So every period goes through aperiod and maybe this period is
more like a singer-songwriterkind of style as opposed to
heavy guitar rock sounds, andmaybe in a few years' time the
(24:44):
next kind of musical wave willbe that heavy rock sound and
bands will make a resurgence.
Uh, not yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
So yeah, that's yeah, but yeah, I've never really
yeah, I think too, like thepandemic still is kind of like
we're still feeling thataftershock where people had to
go back into their bedrooms andrecord their stuff and, you know
, would put it out via band campor on youtube or they'd find
social platforms to put it, soyou couldn't really be in a band
(25:12):
right for two years or so, likeit just was impossible for it,
and that that's kind of likecarried through where it's now.
Just, you know, our biggeststars now are not bands.
You know there's no big u2s oryou know the who or the beatles
or um, we have like very likesinger, songwriters, like what
you were saying.
(25:33):
I just find that kind ofinteresting that what are all
the factors that contributed tothat kind of shift in our, in
our landscape?
Speaker 3 (25:41):
of music.
That's a really good point, butI'm not something I thought of
before, but it's really such ait's such a good point because
Not something I thought ofbefore, but it's really such a
good point because that's how Ikind of started.
There was this time, it was theCOVID period and I had loads of
time so I could go on my laptopand finish these half-baked
songs, and I'm sure there mustbe so many other musicians like
(26:01):
me who basically, yeah, went thesame route.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Yeah, absolutely, that's super interesting.
I like these reflections thatwe're having here.
Garland so, as we kind of bringthings to a close here, what
can we look forward to fromGarland Low?
What's coming down the pipe?
I mean, your latest single isgreat.
Are you assembling or amassingan EP or a record?
Are you going to hit the road?
(26:26):
Are you going to do a show?
Can you tell us anything aboutthe future from what's?
What's looks the rest of 2024into 2025 for you?
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Yeah, so well.
2024 now musically is, is donefor me and I think the the the
format so far, the formula I'vestuck, I've stuck to is four
singles a year.
So I've done eight now.
So there'll be another fourcoming next year and three have
(26:56):
already been recorded, so I'mhappy with them.
Yeah, I kind of impressed myselfreally with the new three if I
can say so myself because I'vetried to kind of push the
boundaries of what I can do alittle bit more.
So I would say, the ones thatyou've heard previously, I've
kind of been very safe,especially the Pretty Babies,
like a song I wrote when I was17.
(27:17):
So it's a very safe song, it'skind of what I do, whereas the
next three they're a little bitmore.
I've pushed myself a bit morein terms of musically and
production wise.
So yeah, you've got that tolook forward to Amazing, amazing
.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
So we have four singles that are surely dropping
in 2025.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
Yeah, well, three.
So three have definitely.
They've been made.
They were already to be pushedout.
I just need to make the musicvideos and then the fourth one
will be recorded, once I findthe time to.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
But yeah, amazing, amazing.
Well, garland, this has been areally fun chat.
I love your enthusiasm and yourthoughtfulness.
I really enjoying your singlesas well.
Keep it up.
I love this kind of concept youhave of launching singles and
they're all numbered and youhave your own videos that go
along with it.
Just the aesthetic is reallycool and your storytelling is
(28:07):
great.
I I mean, you're such a greatuh great writer, so please
continue doing it, and I lookforward to seeing what's next.
I'm uh excited to hear thissingle from your band, your old
band, and your next singles thatcome down the road.
And if ever you want to hopback on and share more stuff,
hey, I'd love to have you backwell, brilliant, I've enjoyed.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
I've enjoyed every second of this as well.
So, thanks so much.
I'm really like so pleased justto be like doing stuff like
this.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Yeah, this is my own musical journey, so, uh, yeah
thank you, thank you so much,cheers man okay, nice one cheers
don't believe when you saypretty baby, you're not right
(29:04):
for me, but I know what I know.
So come on, pretty baby Put alittle faith in me.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Give you the world if you want it.
Pretty baby Girl, I'm on myknees, what do?
Speaker 1 (29:23):
I have to do if.
I want to get with you.
Could you draw a picture please?
It doesn't matter what theothers say, it's what we do,
cause you're my pretty baby andI really don't mean.
Maybe when.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
I say I want to spend my life with you.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
But she said baby, you don't get in for free.
You gotta learn the rules likethe ABC.
You better slow down.
You're only 17, don't behanging signs on me.
I make you smile when I callyou pretty baby, but it's not of
(30:27):
the kind I want.
You're just laughing at me,failing me truly.
Maybe it's the time I'll stop.
It doesn't matter what theothers say, it's what we do,
cause you're my pretty baby andI really don't mean maybe, when
(30:51):
I say I want to spend my lifewith you.
But she said baby, you don'tget in for free.
You gotta learn the rules likethe ABC.
You better slow down.
You're only 17, don't behanging signs on me.
Then she said Baby, you don'tget it for free, you gotta learn
(31:17):
the rules Like the A, b, c,your battle.
Slow down, you're only 17,don't be hanging signs on me.
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