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March 21, 2025 50 mins

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In this episode of I’ll Meet You There, host Paige Nolan engages in a heartfelt conversation with Rabbi Steve Leder, a prominent rabbi and author, to discuss the profound themes of life, loss, and resilience. Rabbi Leder shares his personal journey from a challenging childhood in Minnesota to becoming a leading voice in the grief space.

Their dialogue delves into the complexities of grief, the dualities of life, and the transformative power of embracing one's vulnerabilities. Rabbi Leder offers insights into the importance of showing up authentically for others and the role of betrayal in moving forward after loss. He reflects on his experiences with loss, including his father's death, and how these moments have shaped his understanding of life’s beauty. This episode provides a deep exploration of how embracing life's challenges can lead to a more meaningful existence.

What We Explored This Episode

5:06 Childhood and Family Background

13:26 Reflection on Father's Death

22:12 Importance of Human Connection During Grief

26:06 Job's Suffering and Faith

39:00 Jewish Summer Camp Experience

47:59 Ancient Wisdom and Modern Problems

1:00:08 Embracing Life After Loss

1:15:49 Empty Nest and Life's Challenges

1:19:02 Life's Beauty in Slowing Down

Memorable Quotes

"After 40 years of standing on a front doorstep before I go into the home where someone, a loved one has died, after 40 years, I don't know what I'm gonna say. All I know is I have to walk through the door, show up and be real."
"Betrayal is a necessary component of reemerging and embracing life."
"If human beings were deathless creatures, life would have absolutely no meaning or purpose. No one would have ambition. No one would get married. No one would have children."

Connect with Rabbi

Website - https://steveleder.com/

Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/RabbiSteveLeder

Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/steve_leder/

Twitter/X - https://twitter.com/Steve_Leder

Connect with Paige

Website - https://paigenolan.com/

Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/paigenolanwrite

Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/paigenolanwriter

LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/paige-nolan-0932751/

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Music by Boyd McDonnell

Cover art photography by Innis Casey

Podcast production & marketing by North Node Podcast Network

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