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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to I'm Not
Dead Yet with Judy and Travis, a
podcast about living anextraordinary life with
extraordinary circumstances.
And welcome to the I'm Not DeadYet podcast.
I'm your host, Travis Robinson.
(00:26):
I was diagnosed withParkinson's disease at age 35 in
2014.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
And I'm your other
co-host, Judy Yarris.
My husband, Sandy, hadParkinson's disease for 18 years
.
I was his care partner.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Today's episode will
be catching up with me.
I've had the whirlwind ofactivity this month and just now
getting a moment to breathe andtalk to Judy about it.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Hi, travis, I feel
like it's been forever since
we've connected.
It's been a while.
You've been very busy, right.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
I have been.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
So let's talk a
little bit.
Tell me, I understand thatyou've moved right.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
I did.
We had to move houses and wehad to do it in four days?
Speaker 2 (01:52):
What that F?
Are you kidding me?
I mean, come on, I just want tofor point of reference, for if
you've never heard this podcastbefore and you don't know Travis
, you don't know me.
But Travis happened to be oneof the fire victims from
Altadena.
Their house burnt down in theAltadena fire and he literally
(02:13):
had 15 minutes to get out thedoor with his dogs, his cats and
whatever personal belongings hecould get.
And so I guess, based on thatTravis, four days is like you
had forever to get out of thehouse.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Right, yes, except we
had to take everything and
clean up.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Yeah, bad,
unfortunate, I'm so sorry.
So that must have been highlystressful for you Again, coming
already from a stressful livingenvironment.
That was a little bit too smallfor you and Sarah and the two
dogs and two cats.
Right, and ideally not perfect,but you were making it work.
(03:08):
And now you did find anotherplace, right, yeah, and does
this place have any challengesfor you, or is it perfect?
Speaker 1 (03:19):
It has a few
challenges.
Okay, it's much larger, whichis good, but it's also
multi-leveled, which is not asgood for me.
(03:47):
Yeah, that doesn't sound likean ideal situation it has some
unergonomic corners and doorwaysyou know that open the wrong
way, ah, that have caused me abit of trouble, especially when
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I'm rushing to the toilet ortrying to get something.
And yeah, I mean in many waysit's a great location and other
(04:38):
fun things, but it is not laidout with the ADA or Parkinson's
person in mind.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Right, it sounds like
this could be a challenging
space for you, and since youhaven't started building the new
house, you could be here for atleast a year, right?
Yes, so you're going to have toup your mindfulness as you
maneuver in this house.
Yes, is there a toilet on thefirst floor or only on the
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second floor?
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Um, there are two
toilets on the first floor.
Oh good, okay, which is a superbig improvement for us, having
lived in single-bedroomdomiciles for a few years now.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Yeah, so that's
positive.
Yes, so we've got to look atthe plus side here.
It's just that bad corners anddoors that don't open the way we
think they're going to open canbe a bit of a problem.
Exactly so.
Are you putting signs on thedoor, anything that could help
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you remember that this dooropens out or this door opens in,
or anything special like that?
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Just trying to be
mindful of it.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Okay, well, that's
good.
So you know what you have to do.
Yeah, okay, well, that's good,so you know what you have to do.
Yeah, okay, how did youmaneuver getting out in four
days, though that seems kind ofa short time to move all your
belongings and everything.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Well, first of all,
they are only the belongings
that we had acquired in the lastsix months.
It's true, okay.
And second of all, since weleft the country on the 5th of
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July and got the keys on thefirst, that was what we had to
do.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
I see why it was only
four days.
Okay, yeah, okay.
So you had a great trip.
You went to New York, right?
We?
Speaker 1 (07:41):
did?
We went to upstate New York toa very good friend's wedding.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
Nice, where were you?
What part of upstate New York?
Speaker 1 (07:58):
We were in the little
village of Warwick.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Warwick.
Never heard of it but I have agood friend that has a house up
in Franklin and she loves it upthere.
It's wonderful.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Yes, it was very
pretty to drive through and I
expect in the fall there will beall the brilliant leaves.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Yes, it's very, very
pretty there.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
So that was a good
trip.
We got to see him and his wifeand many of their friends and
sit around telling stories andbullshit and good drinking it
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was wonderful.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Well, that's great.
So that was your reward forgetting up and moving out in
four days.
Right how that was a goodreward.
It turned out to be verysuccessful.
I'm glad to hear that.
Did you do any special planningfor travel?
I know that you are ourconsummate traveler and you're
always prepared to do thesethings.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Yes, but this
particular trip had a lot of
logistical hurdles.
Number one was I was going toNew York directly off of a
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11-day trip to Iceland Wow whereI took an extensive array of
photography equipment threepieces of checked luggage worth
(10:20):
Wow and because I had so muchphoto equipment and a lot of it
was like special handlinggetting through security, it was
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a lot.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Yeah, I could see
where that would be a lot.
I mean, it's hard enough flyingjust with you and a suitcase or
two, but when you have specialequipment and you have to do
special TSA stuff it makes itmuch more difficult.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Did they hassle you
at all with any of it or no?
It was pretty easy once youwere there.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
I wouldn't say that
it was easy.
I will say that we weresuccessful and I credit Sarah
for making sure that my film didnot get x-rayed.
(11:33):
Oh good, okay, yeah, she tookpoint on that aspect of getting
through security and I had twolarge bags of film.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Oh, okay, so you
weren't shooting digitally then
I was doing both Okay, all right.
So you were a little, what dothey call it?
You were analog.
I'm part.
Both Okay, all right.
So you were a little.
What do they call it?
You were analog on part of thistrip.
Yeah, okay, yeah, A littledifferent kind of trip.
So, and getting to upstate NewYork, it's not like you fly in
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to that area, you go to New YorkCity, right, I flew in from JFK
.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Got around there and
drove.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Uh-huh.
So that's a couple of hoursextra, two, three hours in the
mix.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
After a lengthy plane
ride I could see where that
could be difficult.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
How have your
symptoms been lately?
You know you went through aperiod where you were having a
lot of dystonia, a lot ofdyskinesias, a lot of difficulty
, which we try.
I think that we decided that somuch of it was stress-related
due to the fires and the changesin your environment and
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everything.
How have you been feeling sincethen?
Speaker 1 (13:20):
No, no Knowledge is
there.
Probably because of my stress,They've been bad.
(13:42):
It's been difficult to talk.
It's been difficult to talk andI've had problems with urine
incontinence and constipationand a host of other meaty
bugaboos, Right.
(14:04):
But I saw my MDS yesterday gota tiny DVS adjustment and I'm
now on the list waiting for theviolet pump.
(14:25):
Oh good, Okay, so hopefullythat will make a difference.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
I hope so, Travis.
I hope that will help you.
So people know that Travis hashad DBS.
He got an upgrade.
Was it a year ago or a year anda half ago?
I'm trying to remember.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Upgrade was in 2020.
Really.
And then the second upgrade was2023.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
2023,.
Wow, I've lost track of time,travis.
What can I say?
Speaker 1 (15:11):
It happened.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
So do you want to
explain what this new system is?
Do you want to talk a littlebit about it, or do you want to
wait?
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Sure we can, we can.
So the Vial of Pump is made bythe drug company Avvi, who made
the Duopa system, which is thecontinuous intestinal infusion,
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and a number of years ago theystarted working on a
subcutaneous infusion systemthat just pokes in your belly
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much like an insulin pump.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Right, it's not a big
deal, no, it's something you do
at home.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
You can set the home
up at home.
You can disconnect it if youneed to, or our constant drip of
Carbidopa, levodopa.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Which is good, that's
good.
It's what you need, right?
How long is the waiting listnow, do they say when?
You might be able to qualifyfor it.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Um, I'm kind of
fast-tracked through it.
I expect to have it within amonth.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
That's wonderful.
Yeah, that's really really good.
I'm glad to hear that.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
And as I have a
number of friends who are on it,
it promises to be pretty much agame changer.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Great, I'm going to
keep my fingers crossed that
this goes smoothly.
You need one thing to go realeasy this year, right?
Yes, at least one, At least one.
I mean, you don't let manythings take you down, which is
great.
But you know, there is a pointwhere sometimes you just get a
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little bit discouraged, Am Iright?
Yes, yeah, a little bitsometimes, but as long as I have
known you, you have always beenvery instrumental in turning
yourself around and findingsomething positive to focus on.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Yes, taking oneself
out of a hole is easier when you
have so much practice puttingyourself in those holes.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Right, and it's much
easier to get into it than to
get out of it.
For sure, yes, very easy toslide down.
So so much for that, but youknow.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
The other thing that
the bigger house allows for is
purchasing equipment to replacesome of the equipment that I
lost.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Well, that's good,
because then you'll have access
to what you need to do, the newphotography that you want to do
Right.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
But then there's the
fact that I have to purchase all
of it, right, and it stillboggles my mind that six months
after the fire, I'm stillrunning across shit that I'm
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surprised I don't have.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
I think that makes
sense, though, because we don't
realize what we're missing untilwe go to use it right.
I mean, you can go through alist.
It's like you know, certainlyI'm in that position, like I
couldn't keep a list ofeverything that I have, but I
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had a strange thing happen.
It was actually very nice andwonderful that a friend of mine
that used to work for me sheworked for me for like 25 years,
and each time I moved to a newlocation or set up a new studio,
she came with me and she had tocome to LA for a visit to see a
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doctor, so she stayed with me,which was really nice.
We got to catch up.
We went to go sew something and,for those of you that don't
know, for many years I was inthe clothing design business,
and so I had my own studio andit was set up very nicely with
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not only, you know, commercialmachines but thread, everything
that you could want.
And I realized I didn't havethread, because when I decided
to break down my studio, Idonated everything to a friend
that is working at a college upin Northern California that was
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setting up a fashion designprogram.
So I donated all this thread.
I donated all the notions,everything to them and then went
to go sew something andrealized I couldn't find a
needle, couldn't find thread,that I had to go buy a spool of
thread and buy some needles andI hadn't thought about it
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because I haven't mendedanything for a while.
I haven't needed anything to doand it's been over a year since
I broke down that space for thatpurpose and I thought I wonder
what else is going to turn upalong the way that I may have
forgotten that.
You know, at some point I mightneed it.
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Now I recognized when I neededto replace an iron.
I didn't have an iron and I hadto replace that.
But so I can really see wherethere I'm sure there's small
things from lenses or littleitems, little ephemera that you
use as you are doing yourphotography.
(22:24):
I know you do a lot of your owndeveloping.
There's probably things thatyou wouldn't think about
initially.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
So I can appreciate
that.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
It can be challenging
.
Understand is you have no ideahow much of that little ephemera
you collect over an adult'slifetime.
(23:12):
Yes, Right.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
So it's quite a bit.
And even though you're youngyou still collect.
So I can see at least you'reyoung to me.
You might not be young to a20-year-old, but you're
definitely young to me.
So I still consider you a kidlike.
But I think you're right,travis, that for those of us
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that have maybe we've had otherkinds of losses but to lose
everything and to start fromscratch, it seems so
overwhelming to me and hard toimagine.
So you know, I just I'm sureit's been very, very difficult
for you along the way.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
I mean it has, and
you sometimes feel guilty about
mourning the stuff because it'sjust stuff, but then it's like
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you're mourning the experiencethat you had with that stuff.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Yes, I understand
that.
Again, I can understand thatpart.
I know there's people that areorganizers and people that are
really, you know, very much intonot holding on to things.
I don't know what the word isfor that type of personality,
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but I know a lot of people thatare like that.
They just do not collect.
But I do collect and the thingsthat I have, I do have those
memories of where I got it andwhat was significant about it,
and certain things that Sandyand I got together, certain
things I got separately, thingshe bought for me, things I
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bought for him, and when I thinkabout that, it's the memories
that are probably the hurtfulpart of it.
Right, Right, yeah, it's notthat the item isn't there, it's
that when you would look at thatitem isn't there, it's that
when you would look at that item, you would flash back to what
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that experience was acquiringthat item.
And you don't have that now.
I mean, you still have it.
It's still there in your brain,it's still in your heart, but I
think to not have it as areference point is difficult.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Right.
Yeah, and it comes up in thestrangest ways, and so fast.
Something like I was looking atphotos my niece took in Italy
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and I commented that 30 yearslater they still haven't fixed
the fucking windows in theColiseum.
Because I have photos of thesame building where I did you
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know you're gone now.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
So does it make you
feel I mean, I'm assuming
there's a certain amount ofsadness with that are you able
to turn that sadness a differentdirection or move away from the
sadness?
And how do you do that?
Because we're talking aboutloss here, and which we've
talked about before.
But how do you do that?
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Because we're talking aboutloss here, which we've talked
about before, but how do youprocess that?
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't have a real good waywhen I realize that those images
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are only in my memory.
It is a bit sad that I can'tshare them with my niece.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Yes, I'm sure.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
But they have slug
hair.
Such is war.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Yeah, I mean, this is
what you've done, travis.
You're able to move on with it,and I think that's the
inspiration that you bring tothis experience that you're
willing to not dwell in it, butto move on to the next thing,
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and so you're making newexperiences, right?
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Yes, and I'm
rebuilding my photo archive
Right as quickly as possible,okay.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
So there you have it.
You've started the healingprocess and that's really good.
I'm proud of you, very proud ofyou.
I'm proud to be your friend andI'm proud of the way you have
managed to get through thisfirst six months of the year and
now we're starting on the backhalf and it's pretty remarkable
(29:13):
to me that you've come throughas strong as you have.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
Oh, thank you, and on
that note, that's a wrap, bing.