June 6, 2025 • 26 mins
Ron Du Preez from Senior Strides joins us to discuss walking 50K per day in 50 states in 50 days. #running #runners #runningevents #carenware #runnersworld #octalkradio #walking #longdistancewalking #healthandwellnessforseniors #walkingforseniors #walkingforhealthandfitness #walkingforwellness #walkingforfitness
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Hey, welcome everybody.
Time to grab your gear and see if you can catch up as we run into life.
The journey of finding your fit with the woman who spent well, much of her life on that journey.
Karen, or welcome Karen.
Thank you for having us.
We just finished off a event this weekend Cinco de Mayo, and we actually had, paul Roberts from OC Talks.
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The voice that you're hearing right now, I think you had a record group of people there too.
We did and we had a record.
Good time, which we do every single time.
I have never had anyone say, I wish I hadn't gotten up this morning and come to the event.
Pretty amazing.
Go watch on YouTube.
We did some interviews there.
Go watch on Instagram, other things.
Amazing group of people.
Every shape, size, finds their fit.
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It's your event.
And one of the things that surprises me the most are the number of seniors.
People over 80 sometimes or 90 or whatever running, and today you've got somebody who fits that category and is taking, he comes to your events as a warmup to do something even bigger in life.
Absolutely.
So I wanna introduce you to just, we're gonna be bringing in runners and different people and the everybody, and let you get to meet them.
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And I'm gonna introduce Ron today and let him introduce himself.
And I'll tell you that how I.
Knew that he had something cooking, is that he called and he said, do you mind if I run both the 5K and the 10 K? Both of them? You must have both of them.
Yeah, both distances.
Just so that I can get it into my into my training and I could get ready for the LA marathon.
And then he, when I looked at the stats, he did something incredible with that LA Marathon.
(01:51):
He'll tell you about it.
And then he is about to embark on a journey in my, as let's bring him in first.
Yeah.
All right, so let's bring him in.
Okay.
Yeah.
My name is Ron Duprey and I connected with Karen because of this 5K, 10 K.
Yes.
And Karen, thanks for letting me getting to do both that day and they were at the same time.
And let's give a plug to your organization or your site, or whatever it is you're from.
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What.
I'm from an organization called Senior Strides.
That's what we're trying to promote here, specifically for this project that's coming up, starting actually on May 15.
May 15.
That's why we have him here now, because he we, he's gonna be gone.
All right.
And the project is, yeah, the project is really to draw attention to the importance for seniors generally 70, 65 and above to get out and move more because less than One in seven gets the recommended.
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Physical activity, aerobic and muscle strengthening that we need.
And I'm, by the way, 73.
Oh, you've come on.
You can't be 73.
Oh my god.
I'm 73.
Yes.
And so that's why we're promoting this because we have 50 million, the last stats I saw in the United States who are not getting the exercise.
That we need only 8 million are I'm raising my hand in the corner.
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I'm one of 'em.
All right.
So what, but you're doing something incredible and I'll let Karen jump in again here.
What, tell us what the project is.
I just wanna let you know too, tell us before you get into the project, what did you do at LA Marathon? Because he training for the LA Marathon, which just happened in March at.
73 and everything's age graded so that you get to compete with those in your age bracket.
And it's still just as competitive at 70 as it was at 17.
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So what did you do with that LA Marathon? I first wanna thank you, Karen, because I, the week before going to run LA was March nine, as I recall, and you allowed me to come and run the 5K and the 10 K, which started at the same time.
So you let me do the 5K came back and I restarted the clock for the 10 K.
You'll remember that? And that was my final training, 15.
Kilometers, 9.6
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miles or so.
Anyway, nine point something, but to go and get ready.
9.3
as I remember to go do the LA marathon and then I did, my goal was to break four hours.
It was the 40th running of the la, which is one of the big five marathons in the United States.
I had no idea what the time was to go.
To try to, get first place in my age group at all.
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I just had my personal goal break four.
So I ran with a four hour group.
Fortunately I was feeling very good and I ran a little ahead of them.
I managed to get in at three hours.
59, 43.
Oh my goodness.
At 73 years old, you guys.
Yeah.
So later on I checked.
Five hours later I found out that I happened to be of the 209 who started the race, 70 plus.
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Of course there are different categories within that, but of anyone over 70, I ended up as the only one 70 plus to break four hours.
Wow.
For the 40th running.
Congratulations.
Wow.
I wasn't trying to beat anybody, I just wanted to break four hours.
So I was really thankful and that's why I wrote to you have to just said, thank you for letting me get into your race.
To do the final training the week before.
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What would you say to people who've never been to her races? 'cause it's a combination of serious runners and fun runners.
Correct? I what? I, oh man.
I've been to several of our races, actually met Karen at a race that we both ran in and we both ended up on the platform, me, for my age group, she for overall, but then I thought, who is this woman? Anyway, that's how we met.
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But her races.
Are fun and serious.
Yes.
And well planned.
And I just love the combination of course, families can come out and serious runners, you're correct.
And I classify my, find myself as primarily a serious, right.
Serious runner.
But I love having fun as well.
We is, and in addition, promoting causes caring about others and doing something.
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That's one of the reasons I'm doing this.
Senior Strides.
All right, so tell us the event that you're doing.
You, because this is, we've been putting it off.
This is, listen to this folks.
This is an incredible feat.
I'm not saying if you can pull it up, when you can pull it, when you pull it up, this will be something remarkable.
What are you out setting out to do? I know it's crazy to begin with, but yes, it's, I'll admit that.
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But what we're trying to do, and I'm the walker, I'm using the word walk now.
I do run, I run the races, but generally I do a lot of walking for training.
And I'm aware that generally people over 60, 65 prefer to walk.
So this is aimed to be a time of walking, walking 50 kilometers per day.
That's 31.07
miles per day.
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In 50 states.
In 50 days, what? In 50 days? Correct.
You get up and go to another state and then walk another 50 kilometers here, and then another state in 50.
There aren't too many of these states that you can even walk through to the next state.
Maybe just head turn to the next one.
The next one.
Yeah, we, I take, we are actually not walking.
To each state, but in each state.
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Yeah.
So each, but then you have to get, do you get in a car or get in a plane and go to the next state? Yes.
Immediately.
And get up the next morning and do it again? Pretty much.
Correct.
Yes.
So we're starting, we're flying out to Honolulu and we're starting, their first 50 K is on May 15th, Thursday morning.
6, 6 30 in the morning.
We're beginning and we'll do the 50 K there.
They're taking the night flight to Anchorage, doing a 50 K as soon.
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That alone is insane.
Okay, I know.
Yeah.
Hey, the flight is six hours, got a good time to sleep.
And then seven 15 we arrive in Anchorage and then do the next 50 K there.
Flight is out there at four o'clock.
Flight, then down to Ontario Airport, California.
And then do.
50 K the next day as well.
So 50 K per day, 50 states, 50 days.
Once we get to California, we will then be using an RV to travel from state to state.
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I'll have a driver, a cook, et cetera.
We'll be accompany me.
So you run and then drive all night to get to the next state kind? Correct.
It's four or five hours maybe to the next day or something.
You've hit the nail on the head.
It's on average four to five hours.
To drive to the next state.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Because I've driven across the country a couple of times.
But Texas, I, we gotta see the map of this.
How you map this out.
You gotta jump in and jump out.
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Yeah, you can't go but let me add this though.
We are arranging right now to stop at senior living centers to actually encourage them.
So for example, we'll go to a senior center the evening before, generally around seven o'clock at night, and then encourage them to join me the next morning at six 30.
EV five days a week or so.
We'll be encouraging people Monday through Friday to join us at six 30 in the morning.
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In whichever state I am in now, I'm not talking about the physical state I'm in, I'm talking the actual physical location.
I'm in six 30 every morning.
We'll invite people to join us.
They can go onto our website, senior strides.org.
They can sign up, they can follow us there, and then the folk who will join us.
Live there at six 30 for a little warmup, A little stretch, and at most walking a mile with me.
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Yeah.
After which I will.
So they get you launched? Yeah.
Correct.
And by seven o'clock or so, I will then continue to do the 30 other miles and generally in five or 10 K loops so that if others want to join me during the day, they can.
I was gonna say, 'cause I'm trying to figure out how, oh my gosh.
How would you go out 30? How many? It's 30 miles, roughly.
Yes, correct.
But we wanna do it.
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Then they have to go retrieve you.
Otherwise, somebody's saying you come back to the starting point.
No, we wanna do it in loops.
Making it available for others who wanna join us.
Especially lunchtime.
People may say, Hey, I've got half an hour.
Let me go and join you for, three miles, just a, 20 minute per mile walk.
And how do you.
Pick the sites where you're going to, is it, I would think you'd do it right at the airport on the next one.
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Now you're actually correct about Anchorage Paul, because when we get to the airport there, it's it's right near our lake.
Some of Anchorage, the airport and it's beautiful site to see the mountains and the snow in the background.
So we are actually flying into Anchorage at seven 15, starting to walk around eight o'clock and doing a fast one to be done by around two in the afternoon, six hours for the 50 K, and then hop on the.
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Plane at four o'clock to fly down to Ontario.
So yes, sometimes it'll be by the airport, but most times when we're using the rv, we will be able to sleep in the site ahead of time and then in the mornings invite them to walk with us and do five to 10 K loops where people can actually join us.
You've gotta do, you've gotta contact every, so typically the small markets.
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I, I used to do, I have a PR firm a million years ago, and I'm telling you, if you're in Nebraska or Iowa or Mississippi or someplace and you're in some small town.
People, if you call 'em ahead of time, you can get on the morning show, you can get on the evening news and people will rally to come out and do this because there's this is gonna be fun.
And that's why we wanted to bring him in here so that we are on the first foundation launch.
(10:19):
We're launching it launch of launching him off.
Oh, yeah.
Can they.
Follow you on the website.
Can I see where you're, where in the world is Waldo kind of thing? Yes.
In fact, the media guy that I'm flying in actually from South Africa, it's a long time friend.
I'm from South Africa.
Some of you, you've probably picked up a slightly different accent and my good only when you said South Africa.
South Africa, yes, you're right.
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So he's flying into Honolulu and his son is a geolocator.
He does a lot of that and he is actually.
Right now, setting it up on connected with our website is not yet done, where people can actually locate where I am specifically Oh as we're traveling from place to place.
And of course we have the website, senior strides.org.
You can go there.
Right now we've got the whole setup where we planning.
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We may make a few adjustments on the way, however.
As I pointed out, first Honolulu, then Anchorage.
Those have to be set.
Then, California will be stopping at Loma Linda University, which many people know is the basic Blue Zones location.
That afternoon.
Explain that for a second because not really knows that.
A blue zone yeah, but it is a blue zone.
Correct.
Netflix had a series out in which they talked about.
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Areas in which people generally are able to live to about a hundred years of age, and not just longer, but better.
And so Dan Butner through National Geographic, located places where people do that.
And so generally it's recognized that there's something about the Loma Linda University Loma Linda.
Area where of course the university is located and the diet and the lifestyle.
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That's because there's a lot of Seventh Day Adventists and stuff there, and so they eat a different diet.
That is correct.
Overall, it's not required, and I happen to be a Seventh Day Adventist.
Ah, okay.
All right.
All right.
Go.
But that's not why I became.
Plant-based, which I did.
I was actually following a well-known ultra marathoner.
Many people know him.
His name is Scott Durak.
Okay.
And I read about Scott about close to 20 years ago when they said he is plant-based.
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And I'm like, you're kidding.
That's when I switched to being a plant-based person.
Even though I happened to be a seventh adv.
It was Scott Jurich, this, well-known ultra marathoner that inspired me.
And so I became plant-based and of course, I have learned how to do some race walking, which is why I can walk faster.
A couple of formal Olympic coaches.
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Martin Rudo of the United States and Alexander Chimko of the USSR.
They were my trainers.
So I do a lot of race walking.
Wow.
Good for you.
Train.
That's my main train.
Look at other resources he has done to make life this active.
This is amazing.
So I gotta ask you the question, 'cause this is mostly a business channel.
Yes.
What business are you in that you can do this? How do you fund this? How do you find the time? How do you find the resources to do this? Is this just I can't imagine an everyday ordinary.
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70-year-old saying, I'm just gonna get up and take on this challenge here.
Wow.
Let me first say, I have wonderful people who have inspired me, like Scott Jurich.
And like Karen Ware.
Okay.
Karen's amazing story that we tell every show here about how she just makes it go Exactly and figures out one step at a time where I'm going.
Correct.
So I wanna give credit to the people who've inspired me and I bet I'm reading Karen's book right now, finding fit and I'm being inspired by that.
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And if you haven't, check it out.
'cause it's all about her story from a rough childhood through a rough divorce, through rough terrain around the world.
She just keeps going.
Exactly.
I have to throw one more person.
As an example here, I have a friend who's run every one of the 40.
Marathons of the Los Angeles Marathon.
Wow.
Wow.
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Okay.
And she has said she'll be there at Loma Linda when I do my third 50.
When I start my third 50 K.
And she's coming along, Jane, cutting.
And even though she has, was with her husband, a missionary to Malawi's a dentist, she's always done.
The marathon.
She's 85 now.
Oh my goodness.
That's exciting.
Okay.
She turned that exciting.
This is that's right.
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This is so much intering.
Look at the network that he has just by being actively out there.
Exactly.
And these are the people who inspire me.
But going to the question of business I was how do you fund this and make this happen? Oh because this isn't free.
You can't, you're right.
Can this easily, there's a co I say to Karen, and she flies around the world.
How in the world are you fly around united, correct.
Independently wealthy didn't inherit billions of dollars there and the same issue did, I don't quite the opposite, right? We just have a super incredible work ethic.
(14:36):
Correct.
And here, besides the work ethic, which I'm thankful, my father was really a hard worker, he.
Said, I'm not gonna die unless I have my boots on.
And he did 85 years of age always and always giving.
He was well known as a person who kept giving and giving.
This is in South Africa? Yes.
In South Africa.
Correct.
And he got me into, he was a swimmer, a hiker.
He was just outdoor guy and so he was an inspiration to me and of course my mother as well.
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But going back to the question of business, how do I survive again, frankly, because I have been blessed and I end up sharing with others how I've been blessed.
People come along the way and they bless me.
So for this project, really, I have no funding per se, myself, but I've been, I told a friend of mine what I'm doing, and he said, Hey, you gotta get in touch with this guy.
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And this other guy contacted me out of the, I, I called him up.
He has senior centers, literally more than 40 of them down south.
And I said to him, Hey, can I visit your senior centers? It's called Morning Point.
Yeah.
He said, please do.
I wanna inspire and please do.
I want to inspire and encourage You can get there.
Sure.
So down south, I'm gonna actually go to six of his.
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Senior centers.
Oh, that's exciting.
Called Morning Point.
And once I told him that, he said, Hey, listen, if you need financial help, I'll help.
Oh my God.
So when it things started moving along, it's a care and ware story.
You show up with $3 and you give the last $3 to somebody on the bus here and then figure out okay, God, where's the money gonna come from? Correct.
And this is what this guy, he offered.
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So I talked to this vice president afterwards who contacted me to organize where to stop.
She said when we were done organizing, I said, by the way, your boss said.
You may help financially.
Oh, I'll check with him.
She got back to me about a week later and said, oh yeah, he'll send you $2,500 for this.
I'd never met her boss ever.
Just like that.
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And the check came in the mail last week.
Wow.
That's exciting.
That is.
So how do you fund it? It's pretty much a faith venture.
It's an opportunity really just to share with others, living a vibrant, wonderful experience.
When you, I gotta ask both of you, 'cause that's, this is really hard for me to trust.
In fact, I'm a good Irish Catholic to trust that kind of faith that somehow.
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The next dollar will arrive that I'm some into planning and thinking ahead and not taking risks.
And you both do.
Karen's talked about this.
You're doing this.
I'll start with Karen first.
How in the world do you trust enough that it'll happen? Is it just experience that it has happened, or is there some extraordinary faith that you have that's given you this gift here? Okay, this is a huge question.
(17:09):
Yeah.
Because we hope that we live it by example.
And the biggest example on our earth was God sent us on, Jesus Christ to walk this earth.
And and if you look at the Bible and all the things that he exampled by washing the feet of his disciples by going to the, he didn't have a home, or he didn't have, he didn't have a financial plan.
(17:29):
Yeah, he didn't have a, but he had a better financial planner because it's it's based in eternity.
It's based in a, a whole bunch of, other things.
And but faith, everybody has faith until you get tested.
Yeah.
And you know what, I think testing is there.
To see what faith really is.
Yes.
Yeah.
And testing is, like you know the story I have that I ended up in, not South Africa, but Africa, with only $20 in my pocket and the bank accounts were frozen and I had no access to money.
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And I'm in a country that has.
No access to money and to be able to know what it's like.
I would freak out if I land in Africa and I realize I can't get to my money.
Ah, yes.
How do I get through the day? I would just sit down and cry.
I wouldn't know what to do.
What it did is it forced me to have to take a real hard look of the reality and not off, out of piety and being here in, in rich Orange County.
(18:21):
America, but in a real situation that these guys are in the same real situation.
So sometimes faith is, which is a situation many of these people in third world countries live.
Yeah.
Faith every day.
I don't know where the next meals come from.
The next dollar is coming from.
Yes.
And faith is interesting.
I think God wants us to experience life and experience some.
The beauty of it and what I've done in running into people, I've run into people that've had it.
(18:44):
Horrendous unfathomable loss.
And then somehow there's a deep seated beauty in the loss and what they learn.
So I'm gonna let him tell you a little bit.
I'm super grateful for seven the Seventh Day Adventist and Loma Linda and the Loma Linda Loper.
It has a running club and all this stuff is happening there.
It's super healthy.
But you know what I really feel.
(19:05):
There's a connection in some of the longevity that people have is that they have a community that's centered on faith.
There's something different out there.
There's aren't there.
So Ron, how do you get up and fly to a drive to another state not knowing where the next dollar's coming from? Correct.
And by the way, I've met Jim Hughes.
He came to help when we started our running club, the Striders in Beaumont.
Awesome.
Okay.
Yeah.
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So I've met Jim and I'm in touch with him and Jim's planning to bring the losers to Loma Linda for our 17th of May.
Launch from the villa there.
Oh, that's exciting.
So that's Jim.
Invite Jim to come down to one of our events.
We'll interview him here.
Yeah, he should.
Yes.
Yeah.
Just a wonderful man.
Anyway, the issue of faith.
You're correct.
And the issue, let me say this, Paul, I'm 73.
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I tell people I've made so many mistakes in life.
I've learned not to trust myself.
All right.
Wow.
'cause we're always supposed to trust yourself.
Trust your gut, trust your instinct.
I know that's the common saying listen to my voice.
No, but I've learned, because I tell people the longer I live, the long, the more I learn how many mistakes I've made.
Therefore, I cannot trust myself.
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So I wanna go back to Karen's point.
As Christians, we believe in the Bible being inspired by God.
And because of that, we just don't trust our own wisdom.
And it's a relationship we have with Jesus our savior.
And one of my favorite verses, just to answer the question of faith is John chapter 10, verse 10, where Jesus says, I have come that they.
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People, human beings may have life and may have it more abundantly.
And that's what I enjoy doing to live by faith.
And we do that every day.
I'm the, but we all live in a mentality of scarcity.
Exactly.
There's only so much.
I can't get any more.
There's only one job.
There's only one Right thing because we're self-focused.
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That's the issue.
And I am too.
I struggle with that.
I'll admit that.
But I try to focus out there and therefore, when I'm on a run, when I'm on a race.
I try to say thank you to every policeman, to every helper, because I focus on an attitude of gratitude.
Wow.
Attitude of gratitude.
Because you guys are filled with these little catch phrases here.
Yeah.
But it's because it's not about me.
(21:09):
I am so grateful, so thankful for so many people when I hop on the plane.
And I realized I have no control over anything.
And so I just say thank you, Lord.
Which is why I hate flying.
You're outta control.
I wanna run up and take control of the plane and tell 'em where they're going and take turn.
I have no control at that point in time.
I hate flying but that's the point in life.
(21:31):
Again, maybe you're too young.
Thank you.
Thank you for saying that.
I think I'm older than you.
Far behind you.
A couple years.
Yeah.
73.
And the more I learn is learning.
Again, I'm not blind trust in the sense of do stupid things and crazy things.
Except for this walk, because crazy.
That's fun.
But I do try to take.
Not risks or blind chances, but I try to plan carefully.
(21:55):
And again, I have learned that overall the world has wonderful people who see, who also step out on a limb and I'm not talking about legs, or arms but they step out and they get inspired when we encourage them.
And we live in a community of people.
And the more we do that, the more people come along.
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Like the guy who was just sent two and a half thousand dollars last week.
Alright? So people, and in fact on Friday, somebody else contacted me and said, Hey, we'll match what this other organization has done.
Wow.
It's Friday afternoon, I got another commitment of $1,700.
So literally within about three days, there was over $4,000 coming now.
Yes, it's gonna cost $20,000 for the project.
(22:37):
All right.
And where does it come from? People come along when we inspire and encourage others.
They come along and support something that can be a blessing.
Which, which you're both touching on, and I'll wrap up with this.
It's the idea of community.
We live in a world where we're all alone, correct? It's up to me to make my way, to make the decisions to make every step count.
(23:01):
And yet if we just look around there are people willing to help.
There is a community.
When I go to Karen's events, there's a community runners more than anything seem to me like solo athletes.
It's me against my time and me against myself.
But when they get in these events, it's everybody pulling for 'em.
There's a community, and that's why we call careware events.
The something for everybody.
(23:22):
Yeah, everybody and everybody.
Yeah.
And some of it is, if you look at Jesus on this Earth, he picked 12 disciples to, to mentor, and they're the most unlikely individuals.
And then in the old basement, bailing, falling down.
Yeah.
And God picked Moses and he picked someone that stuttered and he picked the.
Most unlikely.
Not your you.
And so it's all about everybody.
(23:44):
Everybody.
And any one of those.
And the power of coming together and opening yourself up to helping others and having them help you.
Exactly.
Exactly.
Yes.
So now you guys gotta watch and go to.
Tell 'em the website again? Yes.
Senior strides.org.
Just like it sounds.
S-T-R-I-D-E-S, correct.
S Okay.
(24:04):
S-E-N-I-O-R.
S-T-R-I-D-E-S.
And I'm gonna put a shameless plug out there because we're, listen, we're having a orange County listen to this and a whole bunch of runners.
If you wanna support the project, how do they do that? If you go to our website, you will see there.
One thing I just wanna share in.
20 seconds.
The mission to energize and empower everyone, especially those over 65, to engage in physical fitness in a fun and friendly way.
(24:31):
Yeah.
To foster health and wellbeing.
Wow.
If you go to our website, you can actually scroll down and donate there if you wanna help the project, or if you just wanna follow us and pray for us and cheer us on, do that for us, because again, it's community.
One of the ways I became the runner I am is because I was failing in a half marathon race and somebody came up to me and said, run with me.
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I said, I can't.
He said, I'm a coach.
I'll show you what to do.
There you go.
And this guy trained me on the run.
I'd never met him on the fly.
On the fly and as a result, Paul, I actually ran better.
And eventually I said, Hey, if you don't mind, I'm gonna continue.
And I won my age group because of that runner who came to help me.
Absolutely.
So again, we're a community.
We care.
(25:12):
That's what we're all about.
And I think Karen's events are a starter point for many people.
I see people who are overweight, who are older, who are not in good shape, but they come out as the first step.
Then they find their fit, they find their place and they go on into bigger and better events like he did.
Yeah.
Correct.
Yes.
Join the journey.
That's what I tell people.
(25:32):
The journey.
Yeah.
Thank you so much, Ron, for being here.
'cause I just knew that your story would just inspire everyone else.
So glad I can be here.
And again, the website is senior.
strides.org.
And we're taping this the beginning of May in 2025.
When does the event actually start for you? May 15 in Honolulu, and we end just before sunrise on July four in St.
(25:58):
Louis, Missouri.
There you go.
That's exciting.
A place to go.
Okay.
And make sure that you come join us at one of our races, Karen, with the C-C-A-R-E-N.
Last name is where? WARE And the word events.
Check it out.
All right.
Thanks for joining us here today.
Thank you.
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There you have.
If that's not reason enough, I can't comfort them with a better one to tune in each and every time as we meet the most amazing people along the way when you start running into life.
Right here in Orange County's only community radio station, OC Talk Radio streaming.
Live from our studios here at the University of California Irvine's.
Feel.
Applied Innovation Center.
Hey, welcome everybody.
Time to grab your gear and see if you can catch up as we run into life.
The journey of finding your fit with the woman who spent well, much of her life on that journey.
Karen, or welcome Karen.
Thank you for having us.
We just finished off a event this weekend Cinco de Mayo, and we actually had, paul Roberts from OC Talks.
(00:43):
The voice that you're hearing right now, I think you had a record group of people there too.
We did and we had a record.
Good time, which we do every single time.
I have never had anyone say, I wish I hadn't gotten up this morning and come to the event.
Pretty amazing.
Go watch on YouTube.
We did some interviews there.
Go watch on Instagram, other things.
Amazing group of people.
Every shape, size, finds their fit.
(01:04):
It's your event.
And one of the things that surprises me the most are the number of seniors.
People over 80 sometimes or 90 or whatever running, and today you've got somebody who fits that category and is taking, he comes to your events as a warmup to do something even bigger in life.
Absolutely.
So I wanna introduce you to just, we're gonna be bringing in runners and different people and the everybody, and let you get to meet them.
(01:28):
And I'm gonna introduce Ron today and let him introduce himself.
And I'll tell you that how I.
Knew that he had something cooking, is that he called and he said, do you mind if I run both the 5K and the 10 K? Both of them? You must have both of them.
Yeah, both distances.
Just so that I can get it into my into my training and I could get ready for the LA marathon.
And then he, when I looked at the stats, he did something incredible with that LA Marathon.
(01:51):
He'll tell you about it.
And then he is about to embark on a journey in my, as let's bring him in first.
Yeah.
All right, so let's bring him in.
Okay.
Yeah.
My name is Ron Duprey and I connected with Karen because of this 5K, 10 K.
Yes.
And Karen, thanks for letting me getting to do both that day and they were at the same time.
And let's give a plug to your organization or your site, or whatever it is you're from.
(02:12):
What.
I'm from an organization called Senior Strides.
That's what we're trying to promote here, specifically for this project that's coming up, starting actually on May 15.
May 15.
That's why we have him here now, because he we, he's gonna be gone.
All right.
And the project is, yeah, the project is really to draw attention to the importance for seniors generally 70, 65 and above to get out and move more because less than One in seven gets the recommended.
(02:42):
Physical activity, aerobic and muscle strengthening that we need.
And I'm, by the way, 73.
Oh, you've come on.
You can't be 73.
Oh my god.
I'm 73.
Yes.
And so that's why we're promoting this because we have 50 million, the last stats I saw in the United States who are not getting the exercise.
That we need only 8 million are I'm raising my hand in the corner.
(03:03):
I'm one of 'em.
All right.
So what, but you're doing something incredible and I'll let Karen jump in again here.
What, tell us what the project is.
I just wanna let you know too, tell us before you get into the project, what did you do at LA Marathon? Because he training for the LA Marathon, which just happened in March at.
73 and everything's age graded so that you get to compete with those in your age bracket.
And it's still just as competitive at 70 as it was at 17.
(03:26):
So what did you do with that LA Marathon? I first wanna thank you, Karen, because I, the week before going to run LA was March nine, as I recall, and you allowed me to come and run the 5K and the 10 K, which started at the same time.
So you let me do the 5K came back and I restarted the clock for the 10 K.
You'll remember that? And that was my final training, 15.
Kilometers, 9.6
(03:46):
miles or so.
Anyway, nine point something, but to go and get ready.
9.3
as I remember to go do the LA marathon and then I did, my goal was to break four hours.
It was the 40th running of the la, which is one of the big five marathons in the United States.
I had no idea what the time was to go.
To try to, get first place in my age group at all.
(04:06):
I just had my personal goal break four.
So I ran with a four hour group.
Fortunately I was feeling very good and I ran a little ahead of them.
I managed to get in at three hours.
59, 43.
Oh my goodness.
At 73 years old, you guys.
Yeah.
So later on I checked.
Five hours later I found out that I happened to be of the 209 who started the race, 70 plus.
(04:28):
Of course there are different categories within that, but of anyone over 70, I ended up as the only one 70 plus to break four hours.
Wow.
For the 40th running.
Congratulations.
Wow.
I wasn't trying to beat anybody, I just wanted to break four hours.
So I was really thankful and that's why I wrote to you have to just said, thank you for letting me get into your race.
To do the final training the week before.
(04:48):
What would you say to people who've never been to her races? 'cause it's a combination of serious runners and fun runners.
Correct? I what? I, oh man.
I've been to several of our races, actually met Karen at a race that we both ran in and we both ended up on the platform, me, for my age group, she for overall, but then I thought, who is this woman? Anyway, that's how we met.
(05:09):
But her races.
Are fun and serious.
Yes.
And well planned.
And I just love the combination of course, families can come out and serious runners, you're correct.
And I classify my, find myself as primarily a serious, right.
Serious runner.
But I love having fun as well.
We is, and in addition, promoting causes caring about others and doing something.
(05:33):
That's one of the reasons I'm doing this.
Senior Strides.
All right, so tell us the event that you're doing.
You, because this is, we've been putting it off.
This is, listen to this folks.
This is an incredible feat.
I'm not saying if you can pull it up, when you can pull it, when you pull it up, this will be something remarkable.
What are you out setting out to do? I know it's crazy to begin with, but yes, it's, I'll admit that.
(05:56):
But what we're trying to do, and I'm the walker, I'm using the word walk now.
I do run, I run the races, but generally I do a lot of walking for training.
And I'm aware that generally people over 60, 65 prefer to walk.
So this is aimed to be a time of walking, walking 50 kilometers per day.
That's 31.07
miles per day.
(06:18):
In 50 states.
In 50 days, what? In 50 days? Correct.
You get up and go to another state and then walk another 50 kilometers here, and then another state in 50.
There aren't too many of these states that you can even walk through to the next state.
Maybe just head turn to the next one.
The next one.
Yeah, we, I take, we are actually not walking.
To each state, but in each state.
(06:38):
Yeah.
So each, but then you have to get, do you get in a car or get in a plane and go to the next state? Yes.
Immediately.
And get up the next morning and do it again? Pretty much.
Correct.
Yes.
So we're starting, we're flying out to Honolulu and we're starting, their first 50 K is on May 15th, Thursday morning.
6, 6 30 in the morning.
We're beginning and we'll do the 50 K there.
They're taking the night flight to Anchorage, doing a 50 K as soon.
(07:00):
That alone is insane.
Okay, I know.
Yeah.
Hey, the flight is six hours, got a good time to sleep.
And then seven 15 we arrive in Anchorage and then do the next 50 K there.
Flight is out there at four o'clock.
Flight, then down to Ontario Airport, California.
And then do.
50 K the next day as well.
So 50 K per day, 50 states, 50 days.
Once we get to California, we will then be using an RV to travel from state to state.
(07:25):
I'll have a driver, a cook, et cetera.
We'll be accompany me.
So you run and then drive all night to get to the next state kind? Correct.
It's four or five hours maybe to the next day or something.
You've hit the nail on the head.
It's on average four to five hours.
To drive to the next state.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Because I've driven across the country a couple of times.
But Texas, I, we gotta see the map of this.
How you map this out.
You gotta jump in and jump out.
(07:45):
Yeah, you can't go but let me add this though.
We are arranging right now to stop at senior living centers to actually encourage them.
So for example, we'll go to a senior center the evening before, generally around seven o'clock at night, and then encourage them to join me the next morning at six 30.
EV five days a week or so.
We'll be encouraging people Monday through Friday to join us at six 30 in the morning.
(08:10):
In whichever state I am in now, I'm not talking about the physical state I'm in, I'm talking the actual physical location.
I'm in six 30 every morning.
We'll invite people to join us.
They can go onto our website, senior strides.org.
They can sign up, they can follow us there, and then the folk who will join us.
Live there at six 30 for a little warmup, A little stretch, and at most walking a mile with me.
(08:36):
Yeah.
After which I will.
So they get you launched? Yeah.
Correct.
And by seven o'clock or so, I will then continue to do the 30 other miles and generally in five or 10 K loops so that if others want to join me during the day, they can.
I was gonna say, 'cause I'm trying to figure out how, oh my gosh.
How would you go out 30? How many? It's 30 miles, roughly.
Yes, correct.
But we wanna do it.
(08:56):
Then they have to go retrieve you.
Otherwise, somebody's saying you come back to the starting point.
No, we wanna do it in loops.
Making it available for others who wanna join us.
Especially lunchtime.
People may say, Hey, I've got half an hour.
Let me go and join you for, three miles, just a, 20 minute per mile walk.
And how do you.
Pick the sites where you're going to, is it, I would think you'd do it right at the airport on the next one.
(09:16):
Now you're actually correct about Anchorage Paul, because when we get to the airport there, it's it's right near our lake.
Some of Anchorage, the airport and it's beautiful site to see the mountains and the snow in the background.
So we are actually flying into Anchorage at seven 15, starting to walk around eight o'clock and doing a fast one to be done by around two in the afternoon, six hours for the 50 K, and then hop on the.
(09:37):
Plane at four o'clock to fly down to Ontario.
So yes, sometimes it'll be by the airport, but most times when we're using the rv, we will be able to sleep in the site ahead of time and then in the mornings invite them to walk with us and do five to 10 K loops where people can actually join us.
You've gotta do, you've gotta contact every, so typically the small markets.
(09:58):
I, I used to do, I have a PR firm a million years ago, and I'm telling you, if you're in Nebraska or Iowa or Mississippi or someplace and you're in some small town.
People, if you call 'em ahead of time, you can get on the morning show, you can get on the evening news and people will rally to come out and do this because there's this is gonna be fun.
And that's why we wanted to bring him in here so that we are on the first foundation launch.
(10:19):
We're launching it launch of launching him off.
Oh, yeah.
Can they.
Follow you on the website.
Can I see where you're, where in the world is Waldo kind of thing? Yes.
In fact, the media guy that I'm flying in actually from South Africa, it's a long time friend.
I'm from South Africa.
Some of you, you've probably picked up a slightly different accent and my good only when you said South Africa.
South Africa, yes, you're right.
(10:41):
So he's flying into Honolulu and his son is a geolocator.
He does a lot of that and he is actually.
Right now, setting it up on connected with our website is not yet done, where people can actually locate where I am specifically Oh as we're traveling from place to place.
And of course we have the website, senior strides.org.
You can go there.
Right now we've got the whole setup where we planning.
(11:04):
We may make a few adjustments on the way, however.
As I pointed out, first Honolulu, then Anchorage.
Those have to be set.
Then, California will be stopping at Loma Linda University, which many people know is the basic Blue Zones location.
That afternoon.
Explain that for a second because not really knows that.
A blue zone yeah, but it is a blue zone.
Correct.
Netflix had a series out in which they talked about.
(11:26):
Areas in which people generally are able to live to about a hundred years of age, and not just longer, but better.
And so Dan Butner through National Geographic, located places where people do that.
And so generally it's recognized that there's something about the Loma Linda University Loma Linda.
Area where of course the university is located and the diet and the lifestyle.
(11:48):
That's because there's a lot of Seventh Day Adventists and stuff there, and so they eat a different diet.
That is correct.
Overall, it's not required, and I happen to be a Seventh Day Adventist.
Ah, okay.
All right.
All right.
Go.
But that's not why I became.
Plant-based, which I did.
I was actually following a well-known ultra marathoner.
Many people know him.
His name is Scott Durak.
Okay.
And I read about Scott about close to 20 years ago when they said he is plant-based.
(12:12):
And I'm like, you're kidding.
That's when I switched to being a plant-based person.
Even though I happened to be a seventh adv.
It was Scott Jurich, this, well-known ultra marathoner that inspired me.
And so I became plant-based and of course, I have learned how to do some race walking, which is why I can walk faster.
A couple of formal Olympic coaches.
(12:32):
Martin Rudo of the United States and Alexander Chimko of the USSR.
They were my trainers.
So I do a lot of race walking.
Wow.
Good for you.
Train.
That's my main train.
Look at other resources he has done to make life this active.
This is amazing.
So I gotta ask you the question, 'cause this is mostly a business channel.
Yes.
What business are you in that you can do this? How do you fund this? How do you find the time? How do you find the resources to do this? Is this just I can't imagine an everyday ordinary.
(13:00):
70-year-old saying, I'm just gonna get up and take on this challenge here.
Wow.
Let me first say, I have wonderful people who have inspired me, like Scott Jurich.
And like Karen Ware.
Okay.
Karen's amazing story that we tell every show here about how she just makes it go Exactly and figures out one step at a time where I'm going.
Correct.
So I wanna give credit to the people who've inspired me and I bet I'm reading Karen's book right now, finding fit and I'm being inspired by that.
(13:27):
And if you haven't, check it out.
'cause it's all about her story from a rough childhood through a rough divorce, through rough terrain around the world.
She just keeps going.
Exactly.
I have to throw one more person.
As an example here, I have a friend who's run every one of the 40.
Marathons of the Los Angeles Marathon.
Wow.
Wow.
(13:47):
Okay.
And she has said she'll be there at Loma Linda when I do my third 50.
When I start my third 50 K.
And she's coming along, Jane, cutting.
And even though she has, was with her husband, a missionary to Malawi's a dentist, she's always done.
The marathon.
She's 85 now.
Oh my goodness.
That's exciting.
Okay.
She turned that exciting.
This is that's right.
(14:08):
This is so much intering.
Look at the network that he has just by being actively out there.
Exactly.
And these are the people who inspire me.
But going to the question of business I was how do you fund this and make this happen? Oh because this isn't free.
You can't, you're right.
Can this easily, there's a co I say to Karen, and she flies around the world.
How in the world are you fly around united, correct.
Independently wealthy didn't inherit billions of dollars there and the same issue did, I don't quite the opposite, right? We just have a super incredible work ethic.
(14:36):
Correct.
And here, besides the work ethic, which I'm thankful, my father was really a hard worker, he.
Said, I'm not gonna die unless I have my boots on.
And he did 85 years of age always and always giving.
He was well known as a person who kept giving and giving.
This is in South Africa? Yes.
In South Africa.
Correct.
And he got me into, he was a swimmer, a hiker.
He was just outdoor guy and so he was an inspiration to me and of course my mother as well.
(15:00):
But going back to the question of business, how do I survive again, frankly, because I have been blessed and I end up sharing with others how I've been blessed.
People come along the way and they bless me.
So for this project, really, I have no funding per se, myself, but I've been, I told a friend of mine what I'm doing, and he said, Hey, you gotta get in touch with this guy.
(15:21):
And this other guy contacted me out of the, I, I called him up.
He has senior centers, literally more than 40 of them down south.
And I said to him, Hey, can I visit your senior centers? It's called Morning Point.
Yeah.
He said, please do.
I wanna inspire and please do.
I want to inspire and encourage You can get there.
Sure.
So down south, I'm gonna actually go to six of his.
(15:43):
Senior centers.
Oh, that's exciting.
Called Morning Point.
And once I told him that, he said, Hey, listen, if you need financial help, I'll help.
Oh my God.
So when it things started moving along, it's a care and ware story.
You show up with $3 and you give the last $3 to somebody on the bus here and then figure out okay, God, where's the money gonna come from? Correct.
And this is what this guy, he offered.
(16:04):
So I talked to this vice president afterwards who contacted me to organize where to stop.
She said when we were done organizing, I said, by the way, your boss said.
You may help financially.
Oh, I'll check with him.
She got back to me about a week later and said, oh yeah, he'll send you $2,500 for this.
I'd never met her boss ever.
Just like that.
(16:24):
And the check came in the mail last week.
Wow.
That's exciting.
That is.
So how do you fund it? It's pretty much a faith venture.
It's an opportunity really just to share with others, living a vibrant, wonderful experience.
When you, I gotta ask both of you, 'cause that's, this is really hard for me to trust.
In fact, I'm a good Irish Catholic to trust that kind of faith that somehow.
(16:46):
The next dollar will arrive that I'm some into planning and thinking ahead and not taking risks.
And you both do.
Karen's talked about this.
You're doing this.
I'll start with Karen first.
How in the world do you trust enough that it'll happen? Is it just experience that it has happened, or is there some extraordinary faith that you have that's given you this gift here? Okay, this is a huge question.
(17:09):
Yeah.
Because we hope that we live it by example.
And the biggest example on our earth was God sent us on, Jesus Christ to walk this earth.
And and if you look at the Bible and all the things that he exampled by washing the feet of his disciples by going to the, he didn't have a home, or he didn't have, he didn't have a financial plan.
(17:29):
Yeah, he didn't have a, but he had a better financial planner because it's it's based in eternity.
It's based in a, a whole bunch of, other things.
And but faith, everybody has faith until you get tested.
Yeah.
And you know what, I think testing is there.
To see what faith really is.
Yes.
Yeah.
And testing is, like you know the story I have that I ended up in, not South Africa, but Africa, with only $20 in my pocket and the bank accounts were frozen and I had no access to money.
(17:56):
And I'm in a country that has.
No access to money and to be able to know what it's like.
I would freak out if I land in Africa and I realize I can't get to my money.
Ah, yes.
How do I get through the day? I would just sit down and cry.
I wouldn't know what to do.
What it did is it forced me to have to take a real hard look of the reality and not off, out of piety and being here in, in rich Orange County.
(18:21):
America, but in a real situation that these guys are in the same real situation.
So sometimes faith is, which is a situation many of these people in third world countries live.
Yeah.
Faith every day.
I don't know where the next meals come from.
The next dollar is coming from.
Yes.
And faith is interesting.
I think God wants us to experience life and experience some.
The beauty of it and what I've done in running into people, I've run into people that've had it.
(18:44):
Horrendous unfathomable loss.
And then somehow there's a deep seated beauty in the loss and what they learn.
So I'm gonna let him tell you a little bit.
I'm super grateful for seven the Seventh Day Adventist and Loma Linda and the Loma Linda Loper.
It has a running club and all this stuff is happening there.
It's super healthy.
But you know what I really feel.
(19:05):
There's a connection in some of the longevity that people have is that they have a community that's centered on faith.
There's something different out there.
There's aren't there.
So Ron, how do you get up and fly to a drive to another state not knowing where the next dollar's coming from? Correct.
And by the way, I've met Jim Hughes.
He came to help when we started our running club, the Striders in Beaumont.
Awesome.
Okay.
Yeah.
(19:25):
So I've met Jim and I'm in touch with him and Jim's planning to bring the losers to Loma Linda for our 17th of May.
Launch from the villa there.
Oh, that's exciting.
So that's Jim.
Invite Jim to come down to one of our events.
We'll interview him here.
Yeah, he should.
Yes.
Yeah.
Just a wonderful man.
Anyway, the issue of faith.
You're correct.
And the issue, let me say this, Paul, I'm 73.
(19:46):
I tell people I've made so many mistakes in life.
I've learned not to trust myself.
All right.
Wow.
'cause we're always supposed to trust yourself.
Trust your gut, trust your instinct.
I know that's the common saying listen to my voice.
No, but I've learned, because I tell people the longer I live, the long, the more I learn how many mistakes I've made.
Therefore, I cannot trust myself.
(20:08):
So I wanna go back to Karen's point.
As Christians, we believe in the Bible being inspired by God.
And because of that, we just don't trust our own wisdom.
And it's a relationship we have with Jesus our savior.
And one of my favorite verses, just to answer the question of faith is John chapter 10, verse 10, where Jesus says, I have come that they.
(20:29):
People, human beings may have life and may have it more abundantly.
And that's what I enjoy doing to live by faith.
And we do that every day.
I'm the, but we all live in a mentality of scarcity.
Exactly.
There's only so much.
I can't get any more.
There's only one job.
There's only one Right thing because we're self-focused.
(20:49):
That's the issue.
And I am too.
I struggle with that.
I'll admit that.
But I try to focus out there and therefore, when I'm on a run, when I'm on a race.
I try to say thank you to every policeman, to every helper, because I focus on an attitude of gratitude.
Wow.
Attitude of gratitude.
Because you guys are filled with these little catch phrases here.
Yeah.
But it's because it's not about me.
(21:09):
I am so grateful, so thankful for so many people when I hop on the plane.
And I realized I have no control over anything.
And so I just say thank you, Lord.
Which is why I hate flying.
You're outta control.
I wanna run up and take control of the plane and tell 'em where they're going and take turn.
I have no control at that point in time.
I hate flying but that's the point in life.
(21:31):
Again, maybe you're too young.
Thank you.
Thank you for saying that.
I think I'm older than you.
Far behind you.
A couple years.
Yeah.
73.
And the more I learn is learning.
Again, I'm not blind trust in the sense of do stupid things and crazy things.
Except for this walk, because crazy.
That's fun.
But I do try to take.
Not risks or blind chances, but I try to plan carefully.
(21:55):
And again, I have learned that overall the world has wonderful people who see, who also step out on a limb and I'm not talking about legs, or arms but they step out and they get inspired when we encourage them.
And we live in a community of people.
And the more we do that, the more people come along.
(22:16):
Like the guy who was just sent two and a half thousand dollars last week.
Alright? So people, and in fact on Friday, somebody else contacted me and said, Hey, we'll match what this other organization has done.
Wow.
It's Friday afternoon, I got another commitment of $1,700.
So literally within about three days, there was over $4,000 coming now.
Yes, it's gonna cost $20,000 for the project.
(22:37):
All right.
And where does it come from? People come along when we inspire and encourage others.
They come along and support something that can be a blessing.
Which, which you're both touching on, and I'll wrap up with this.
It's the idea of community.
We live in a world where we're all alone, correct? It's up to me to make my way, to make the decisions to make every step count.
(23:01):
And yet if we just look around there are people willing to help.
There is a community.
When I go to Karen's events, there's a community runners more than anything seem to me like solo athletes.
It's me against my time and me against myself.
But when they get in these events, it's everybody pulling for 'em.
There's a community, and that's why we call careware events.
The something for everybody.
(23:22):
Yeah, everybody and everybody.
Yeah.
And some of it is, if you look at Jesus on this Earth, he picked 12 disciples to, to mentor, and they're the most unlikely individuals.
And then in the old basement, bailing, falling down.
Yeah.
And God picked Moses and he picked someone that stuttered and he picked the.
Most unlikely.
Not your you.
And so it's all about everybody.
(23:44):
Everybody.
And any one of those.
And the power of coming together and opening yourself up to helping others and having them help you.
Exactly.
Exactly.
Yes.
So now you guys gotta watch and go to.
Tell 'em the website again? Yes.
Senior strides.org.
Just like it sounds.
S-T-R-I-D-E-S, correct.
S Okay.
(24:04):
S-E-N-I-O-R.
S-T-R-I-D-E-S.
And I'm gonna put a shameless plug out there because we're, listen, we're having a orange County listen to this and a whole bunch of runners.
If you wanna support the project, how do they do that? If you go to our website, you will see there.
One thing I just wanna share in.
20 seconds.
The mission to energize and empower everyone, especially those over 65, to engage in physical fitness in a fun and friendly way.
(24:31):
Yeah.
To foster health and wellbeing.
Wow.
If you go to our website, you can actually scroll down and donate there if you wanna help the project, or if you just wanna follow us and pray for us and cheer us on, do that for us, because again, it's community.
One of the ways I became the runner I am is because I was failing in a half marathon race and somebody came up to me and said, run with me.
(24:51):
I said, I can't.
He said, I'm a coach.
I'll show you what to do.
There you go.
And this guy trained me on the run.
I'd never met him on the fly.
On the fly and as a result, Paul, I actually ran better.
And eventually I said, Hey, if you don't mind, I'm gonna continue.
And I won my age group because of that runner who came to help me.
Absolutely.
So again, we're a community.
We care.
(25:12):
That's what we're all about.
And I think Karen's events are a starter point for many people.
I see people who are overweight, who are older, who are not in good shape, but they come out as the first step.
Then they find their fit, they find their place and they go on into bigger and better events like he did.
Yeah.
Correct.
Yes.
Join the journey.
That's what I tell people.
(25:32):
The journey.
Yeah.
Thank you so much, Ron, for being here.
'cause I just knew that your story would just inspire everyone else.
So glad I can be here.
And again, the website is senior.
strides.org.
And we're taping this the beginning of May in 2025.
When does the event actually start for you? May 15 in Honolulu, and we end just before sunrise on July four in St.
(25:58):
Louis, Missouri.
There you go.
That's exciting.
A place to go.
Okay.
And make sure that you come join us at one of our races, Karen, with the C-C-A-R-E-N.
Last name is where? WARE And the word events.
Check it out.
All right.
Thanks for joining us here today.
Thank you.
(26:19):
There you have.
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