March 24, 2025 • 28 mins
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rach-guest573_1_02-21-2 (00:34):
Welcome to Society Chats.
I'm Rachel.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (00:39):
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rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025_ (00:39):
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laura-b_1_02-21-2025_2046 (00:49):
We're shitting?
A
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025_2 (00:55):
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laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204 (01:22):
little slurp a slurp.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2 (01:24):
Yuuuum.
Speaking of yum,
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (01:29):
I got a yum,
rach-guest573_1_02-21-202 (01:30):
yeah, what's tickling your taste buds
this week?
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204 (01:33):
alone.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025_ (01:35):
Oh, yes.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_2046 (01:37):
Okay.
Uh, you know, Rachel, but Idon't know if I talked, we have
not talked about this in theshow.
I do not watch reality TV.
I have a general ban onunscripted television.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-20 (01:49):
You've talked about it on the show, and
I believe you've passed somesignificant judgment against the
kind of people who like theshow.
Those kind of
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (01:57):
No, I, I know that I've talked
against reality TV show.
I'm saying, I don't know thatI've ever talked about alone.
Ha,
rach-guest573_1_02-21 (02:03):
something like that, along those lines.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (02:06):
But alone is the one thing that gets
a pass.
And you turned me on to it.
Um.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025_20 (02:12):
I like the reality TV.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (02:14):
And I have watched, I don't know how
many seasons, but you, you can'twatch too many, like back to
back to back.
Cause you start to get immune toit.
Right.
It starts to be the same shitdifferent day.
And so it's been a while since Iwatched it.
And then I saw the Australianseason of Alone pop on Netflix
and I'm like, yep, playwatching.
(02:34):
Very interesting.
Very good.
And then I noticed that therewas another season on Netflix of
Alone that I hadn't seen startedthat.
I fucking love that show.
I It's so good, and it's, Ithink it's because it's like a
lot of just people you don't seeon television, you know what I
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mean?
Like, they're, they're allexceptionally rural individuals,
and Kind of their perspective, Ithink, is very interesting and
there's just so many aspectspsychologically of the whole
thing.
It's interesting.
If you don't know the premise,it's basically ten people put on
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a super remote place.
They are survival experts ofdiffering levels and the
question is who is going tosurvive the longest wins the
prize.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025_ (03:28):
the key component is that you have
to be alone, right?
Because so many of these othershows pair people up or put them
in tribes, like Survivor.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (03:36):
or they're, they're alone, quote
unquote, but they have cameramenthere.
There's nobody there.
They, they film themselves.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-202 (03:44):
Which is also impressive because not
only do they have to be good atsurviving, but they have to also
have some kind of idea on howto, like, set up a shot
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_2046 (03:51):
Yeah, I know.
It's interesting.
Cause I imagine
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025_2 (03:53):
if you have all day, you probably
figure it out.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_2046 (03:56):
Yeah, but I, I think they probably go
through a very exhaustive, as inlike reading a lot of people
out, um, screening process.
Like I think they do like testruns, like they send them out
into like the wilderness for aday, and then are like, show me
how you do this.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And, cause they have to get goodfootage.
rach-guest573_1_02-2 (04:16):
Otherwise, you're just sending a person
into the woods for no reason.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_2 (04:20):
Exactly.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025_ (04:21):
So, okay, some of my favorite alone
moments.
There's like some that pop intomy brain.
And this just summarizes theshow.
Number one, the guy who tookdown a moose.
And then he just, he, they hadto come pull him out of the
woods, essentially.
He was gonna survive all winter.
He was gonna make it.
And the frickin Wolverine atethe moose fat that he had and he
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had to kill it and I felt so badfor the wolverine because I'm
like it Didn't choose to bethere, but that's neither here
nor there the woman who Filmedherself taking off her clothes
talking about how she loved hernew body and how she like felt
strong
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (04:53):
And she was like dancing in front of
the fire naked.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-202 (04:56):
Yeah, and then they pulled her out
like the next day because shewas emaciated and you could tell
from the video
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_2046 (05:02):
Yeah.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2 (05:03):
Another highlight is the cop that tapped
after like 24
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_20465 (05:07):
That I think was the first season or
like the first season that Isaw, he was like all going to be
big man on campus.
And yeah, within 24 hours, he'slike, you got to come get me.
There's there's bears and wolveshere.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-202 (05:20):
Yeah, he was like, I'm done.
I'm out.
And I'm like, that's right.
Cause that's the key trend thatwe were talking about.
The more they talk, the biggerthey talk at the beginning, the
harder they fall.
I'm curious.
I'm going to watch it in onceit's into my rotation, but I'm
curious to see how Australiansdiffer.
Cause I feel like thepersonalities,
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_20465 (05:38):
They were.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025_2 (05:39):
is going to be a lot more mellow.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_20465 (05:43):
It's kind of a, a mix.
It was delightfully different inthe sense that there were
familiar notes, but yeah, therewas definite cultural
differences and just the terraindifference because where they
are in Tasmania is not Arctic.
You know, it's not balmy, butit's not Arctic the way that the
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Canada seasons are because Ithink literally all of the U.
S.
alone.
rach-guest573_1_02-2 (06:10):
Vancouver, Island.
There's one island on thePacific Northwest that they
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_2046 (06:14):
Yeah.
And the most recent one Iwatched, because I finished
Australian alone, and then Iwatched this other one, and this
one is Northern Saskatchewan,Canada.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025_2 (06:22):
Oh wow.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (06:23):
And yeah, just very different
terrain, and it was veryinteresting, but I, I'm really
interested to see your thoughtson Australia, because there was
somebody very early on that Iwas rooting for so hard, and I
just wonder what your thoughtsare going to be.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-202 (06:37):
Well, I'm excited to check it out.
And I've been doing a little bitof my own research about da na
da from my own Netflix purse perviewing.
Is that the right word?
Um, but this is a drama seriesin the vein of inventing Anna
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_2046 (06:54):
Belle Gibson.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025_ (06:55):
Val Gibson.
I'm sorry.
I just, I, I, I, love Aussies.
I think the personalities,they're always a hoot.
They're so good natured.
I hate the accent.
I think it makes you sound sodumb and that's
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_20 (07:06):
Really?
rach-guest573_1_02-21-20 (07:06):
words.
Maybe just specific areas
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_2046 (07:10):
Yeah, I don't know, like, the regional
differences, but I likeAustralian accents.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025_2 (07:15):
we were in Ireland, we went on a
pub crawl with, uh, you know, agroup and there was two
Australians and I'm just like, Iam sorry.
You are such lovely people, butI do not like the accents.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (07:28):
Oh, and you were going to say what
we guessed it on the, uh, the
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025 (07:31):
more tame.
It's like, there's some thatsound more English, and there's
some that sounds like Englishwith a southern drawl, and
that's the one that I'm not sobig on, not so keen on.
And so after watching this showabout Australians, uh, the con
artist, the wellness guru whosaid she could cure cancer with
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diet, I just like, every time,the biggest takeaway is one, why
did I watch this?
It's, it's.
It's gonna be sad.
There's gonna be people withactual cancer in there.
And I'm just like, shit, that'ssad.
And then B, I'm never gonna beable to say cancer again without
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204 (08:06):
Kansa.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-20 (08:07):
trying to say it like an Australian.
Cause they must have, I, every30 seconds they were saying the
word.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (08:12):
So did, did you watch the
documentary on Netflix or thefictionalized, the drama series?
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025_2 (08:19):
It was good.
It was well done.
I liked it.
You know, uh, breaking thefourth wall was a big part of,
well, not a big part of it, buta
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (08:27):
I always liked that in a show.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-202 (08:28):
Yeah.
and it just was like, it waskind of cool the way they did
it.
Uh, still sad story, such a sadstory.
And I'm going to say it here.
If my arm is threatening therest of me, cut the arm off.
I don't need it.
I don't want it.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (08:43):
I have not seen it yet, but we did
a recap on, actually on my otherpodcast, NerdTalking.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025_ (08:48):
Oh.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_2046 (08:48):
about this just a few days ago.
Uh, I do not want to watch AppleCider Vinegar until I have a
more solid understanding of the,that's okay, I knew exactly what
you were talking about, uh,before I had a more solid
understanding of the, thefactual aspect that it's based
on.
And Netflix just released a, um,The, basically the, the
(09:10):
Instagram con artist, which isabout Bill Gibson.
So I want to watch that
rach-guest573_1_02-21-20 (09:14):
That's good
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (09:15):
and then I'm going to watch Apple
Cider Vinegar.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-202 (09:18):
Yeah, I'll have to add that to my list
after Alone, once I've forgottenall about it.
But I mean, we can't talk aboutNetflix and Netflix
documentaries specificallywithout the real Belle of the
ball.
Fuck you, Belle Gibson.
The real Belle of the ball rightnow is the Gabby, Pedito
documentary, which, my gutreaction was, too soon.
(09:41):
But, it is made with
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (09:44):
but then you did end up watching it.
So.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-202 (09:46):
Well, because I saw, uh, comments.
Somebody was, they were talkingabout how they were using AI to
replicate her voice or whatnot.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_2046 (09:55):
Yeah, and they, they did, they did a
disclaimer when they did that,
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025_ (09:58):
Oh, yeah.
But it was just like, The waythat they were telling the story
was a lot more, sensitivity tothe victim, right?
And with her parents support andtelling her story.
And, you know, it's not just,oh, it's not, her story didn't
start the day she died, right?
It kind of, like, covered herlife up to it.
Um, and her parents and the babypictures.
(10:20):
And, oh, it rips your heart out.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (10:22):
It does.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-202 (10:23):
Yeah, I'm not finished with it.
I've only watched the first twoepisodes.
But
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (10:29):
a three parter, I
rach-guest573_1_02-21-202 (10:30):
Yeah, but to the part where the rest
of the country catches on what'shappening.
So, I've kind of lived that
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (10:36):
Did you see the body cam footage of
them when they went to the houseof the parents?
Yeah.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025 (10:41):
Yes.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_20465 (10:42):
That was the thing, because I had
seen a lot of the footage, likeI had seen Her, like, when the
cops pulled them over, you know,the, like, the domestic violence
intervention or whatever, I've,I had seen that on the internet
before, I'd seen some of thevideos that she had released,
and things like that, but thatbody cam footage was new to me
(11:03):
from start to finish, and,because I don't, I don't think
it had been released at allbefore this documentary, at
least I had never seen it, and Iwas like, whaaaaat?
rach-guest573_1_02-21-202 (11:12):
Well, that stuff takes time, right?
So then, Yeah.
the news cycle has moved on bythe time the Freedom of
Information Act Pulls that out.
Um, the one where they went tothe parents.
Is that what you're talkingabout?
Yeah.
I mean that was honestly thepart that I had the least amount
of problem with them, right?
Is them just like being like notalk to our lawyer because
everybody has the right to that.
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That's like a right.
What really got me was when theyblocked Gabby's parents on their
phones.
That's heartless.
That's
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_2046 (11:40):
Yeah.
Yeah.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025_2 (11:41):
To not even say like, you know, I
don't know what you say, butsomething, right?
Even if you are in the mindset,you're going
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (11:48):
Or you just say, Brian is home.
He doesn't know what happened toGabby.
Or literally anything.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025 (11:54):
this is the last place he saw her.
Just so they have a jumping off,but they didn't want them I
mean, they didn't want them tofind her, so that's
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_2046 (12:01):
Nope.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025_20 (12:02):
I just, it really took I was
trying to cast The Benefit ofthe Doubt, because I didn't
really know that much about thecase.
Just thinking like Again, thebook that I read about disaster
psychology is like, it's so easyto pass judgment on people who
are in these situations becausewe know the whole story.
Like, people in 9 11 and theWorld Trade Centers ran up to
the
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_2046 (12:22):
Yeah.
That's so sad because theydidn't know.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025 (12:25):
they had no idea what was happening.
And so in hindsight, we're like,why would you do that?
But, you know, they didn't havethe information.
So to me, it's like, oh, maybethey didn't know the whole thing
that he came back and said, youknow, we left.
I don't know what happened toher.
I'm gonna get blamed for it, orwhatever, blah, blah, blah, and
so they try to close the wagons,or whatever.
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But,
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (12:46):
the wagons.
Yeah.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-202 (12:47):
yeah, but the fact that they didn't
have anything, and they justlocked out parents who were
worrying about their kid,that's,
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_2046 (12:55):
Well, and he called them.
I don't know if you've seen thatin the
rach-guest573_1_02-21-20 (12:58):
called them twenty times, or something,
on the day she disappeared.
So, Yeah.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (13:04):
on a 55 minute phone call that
immediately ended with themhanging up and calling a lawyer.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-202 (13:10):
Yeah, that's, ugh.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (13:12):
And listen, I get it.
That's my whole thing, is like,protecting your children,
Getting them a lawyer.
Yeah, that is the right thing todo.
You know, you love your kid nomatter what.
You are going to try to protectthem but you don't, in my eyes,
you don't protect them to theextent of your integrity, your
compassion.
Like, you, you don't protectthem at all costs.
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You protect them the best as youcan while maintaining what's
right.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-202 (13:39):
Well, and protecting them is also
helping them do protecting
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (13:43):
The right thing?
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025_ (13:44):
And their soul.
I mean, I thought I believe inthat, but it's just like you
help them by helping them do theright thing.
Not Yeah.
Getting you a momentary, what'sgoing to be best for you in that
moment.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_2046 (13:59):
Yeah.
And that's my whole thing islike when, you know, you, they,
as his parents and the fact thatlike, yeah, he's an adult, like
you can't compel him to go talkto the cops, like, but I can,
you know what I mean?
Like if I had a kid, they toldme, you know, a version of what
happened or they told me whathappened.
And then over time, like thecops are knocking at my door and
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their parents are texting me.
I'd be like, listen, I have todo what I can live with.
You know, I have to sleep atnight and so I can go to the
cops and say this is all I knowand he, you know, he has a
lawyer and he's refused to speakwith you and I support his
decision in that, but I have totell you what I know because I
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have to live with myself whenthis is all over.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-20 (14:43):
Right, and the fact that they kept him,
like, in the house when thepolice officer was there, and
they had her ban, I'm like, whata flippin idiot, too.
Like, that's not even a good wayto get away with a crime.
Because it was, anyways.
That's neither here nor there.
Uh, I saw some people talkingabout how his parents were
probably more apt to do that,because they had whatever
personality defect that enabledhim to kill his girlfriend.
(15:06):
Ha
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_20 (15:06):
That's, I mean, that's what I said.
I was like, shit.
Well, no wonder why he ended upkilling his girlfriend.
He's raised by thesepsychopaths.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-202 (15:11):
Well, I'm, you know, abuse is
cyclical, right?
So, you know, maybe that's whatwas going on in that house as
well.
But I did see a sister, like, Isaw that part where a sister
kind of tried to talk out alittle bit.
She said they've been iced out.
Yeah, I mean, they weren't notspared the wrath of the
internet.
Uh, but,
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (15:30):
bad for her, the sister.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-202 (15:32):
cause she probably did know the least,
right?
Um, and she said, I'm losing myparents and my brother.
So.
She kind of grasped the gravityof it all,
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (15:41):
And I think at this po
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025 (15:43):
than she should have been.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (15:44):
I saw something on Reddit that
said And, and, take this with agrain of salt, you know, the
internet, uh, because I didn'tverify it, I just read it, but
it, they said that she postedsomething semi recently,
something of like, I haven'tspoken to my parents in two
years, and da da da da, yeah, soI
rach-guest573_1_02-21-202 (16:06):
cause hopefully, I mean she has kids,
she's like, how am I going toraise my kids and like, not, you
know, knowing that I
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_2046 (16:12):
yeah,
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025_2 (16:13):
to this.
That's, hmm.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_2046 (16:15):
yeah,
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025_ (16:15):
And it's such, and this case, for
whatever reason, really grabs ahold of people's attention, and
you see all kinds of reactionsonline, I guess I, cause I,
somehow TikTok figured out thatI was watching it or talking
about it, and it started givingme TikToks about it and people
are just saying, you know,there's people, the, the more
kind of common side of like, oh,he's a monster, blah, blah,
(16:38):
blah, blah.
And then there's also the sidethat people are like, oh, why
would I care about her?
She's an abuser.
She did blah, blah, blah, blah.
Um, and there's just like,there's a lot of anger towards
her too.
And this is like, well, becauseshe, And who's to say, and
there's like reactive abuse andall these kind of things, but
these two were just a festeringcesspit.
(16:58):
I mean, they took a relationshipthat was already on the fray and
on the edge and they put it intoa pressure cooker of being in a
van 24 7.
Uh, yeah, and, but she wasinvolved, like the scratches on
his face and people were sayingthat she was like, As abusive as
(17:20):
he
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (17:20):
You have no idea.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025_2 (17:22):
of what's going on, but even if she
was, that's still not a deathsentence.
Like, come on.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025 (17:26):
Absolutely not.
And also, I will say, whoevercalled the police on that, on,
you know, yeah, he had no idea.
He, yeah, he had the, the modelof the van, a good description,
like that is a good citizen.
And I trust him when he saysthat he was slapping her because
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he was, you know, I mean, he hadenough detail of saying like,
this is the van, this is wherethey went.
Like this is a concerned citizenwho pays attention.
And I believe him.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-20 (17:58):
Right.
Yeah.
I mean, they didn't knowanybody, it wasn't like it was a
plan.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_2046 (18:02):
Yeah.
Yeah.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025_ (18:03):
But it was just like, I think the
heartbreaking thing too, is justthat she was, Maybe even younger
than her years, you know, like a
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (18:10):
Oh, well, of course she was.
That's, I mean, pfft, that'severy 22 year old nowadays.
They're really 16! Like, backwhen we were kids, it was
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025_ (18:20):
the fact that when her relationship
was imploding, she went back toher ex boyfriend.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (18:25):
I know, that was so classic, yes.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-202 (18:30):
Being like, he's going to be the one
to save her.
And I
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (18:32):
Oh, I thought about him too, and I'm
like, oh my god, that guy mustlive with a lot of guilt.
Because he didn't take that lastphone call from her.
Because he was at work,
rach-guest573_1_02-21-20 (18:40):
what's he gonna do?
He was 2, 000 miles away!
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (18:42):
I know, but still, that, I mean, I
just know that that would weighon me, and it seemed like from
his, you know, the way he wastalking, it weighed on him too.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-202 (18:51):
Yeah, it's, mm.
It's just a tragic situation allaround.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (18:57):
It is.
And I really liked, um, Gabby'sdad at the, you haven't gotten
to this episode yet, do you wantme to talk about
rach-guest573_1_02-21-202 (19:04):
Yeah, that's fine.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_2046 (19:05):
Okay.
Where he, they talk at the endabout how, Gabby's case got so
much attention.
There are thousands ofindigenous and people of color
who do not get this kind ofattention.
yeah.
And the, his dad, her dad wassaying, you know, when I first
heard that I was not happy, youknow, uh,
rach-guest573_1_02-21-202 (19:28):
Yeah.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (19:29):
by that association that no, like,
you know, people only care aboutmy daughter because the color of
her skin, dah, dah, dah, dah.
He said, but that's not true.
You know, as time went on and Ilooked at it and thought about
it, he's like, Yeah, that'sfucked up.
And I like, that's, I think hehad a really good perspective on
it.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-202 (19:48):
Yeah.
I mean, cause
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (19:49):
And then,
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025 (19:49):
this case?
Like, women are killed all thetime by their romantic partners.
Why is this one?
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_20 (19:54):
because she had someone who, she had
people who cared about her.
That's, I mean, she is, she is awhite, attractive, blonde woman
who had people who cared abouther.
So when she went missing, theywent into action.
That's, that's the truth of it.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-202 (20:10):
Yeah.
And that's what I, that's what Ihave in my brain anytime I
imagine somebody's gonna murderme.
I'm just gonna be like, peoplelove me.
People will, you don't want todo this.
You're not, you don't want to dothis.
I'm not an easy victim, eventhough I didn't really think
anybody's trying to kill me.
But you know, that's like in myhead, that's what I was saying.
It's like when Tina, never mind.
I was gonna talk about TinaFey's memoir, but I don't need
(20:32):
to do that.
But it's just like, people,
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (20:34):
you like, you don't like to talk
about Tina Fey because she'sproblematic,
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2 (20:37):
doesn't make any sense.
It just doesn't make any sensein con, it's like me, me, us,
not us, us.
Making obscure 30 Rockreferences that I don't know if
anybody else gets.
Cause I do my other podcast withmy sister and she's like,
sometimes you say things and I'mlike, I don't know what you're
talking about.
I'm like, those are 30 Rockreferences.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (20:53):
And you're like, oh, you're not
Lara.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-202 (20:55):
yeah, I'm used to being able to say
them.
And she's like, okay.
But um,
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_2046 (21:01):
Okay.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025_ (21:03):
but it's, yeah, it's just like, you
know, people will look for me.
They're not going to drop the,they're not going to just drop
it.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (21:09):
I always think that, like, when,
when I, I, cause I, you know,consume a fair amount of true
crime and I'm, I look at thesemen who go after, you know,
Suburban women or whatever.
I'm like, what are you doing?
Like, this is terrible, butlike, advice.
If you're a serial killer, donot go after, you know, young
(21:34):
women that have families wholove them.
Like, you are just fuckingyourself over.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-202 (21:40):
Well, let's not give serial killers
advice.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_2046 (21:42):
know, I know.
But I'm just like,
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025 (21:45):
jump in the river, and then drown.
Step two, pick better targets.
No.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204 (21:52):
Truly.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025 (21:52):
From the afterlife.
Oh, man.
Well, I think, I think that'sbeen everything I've been
watching lately.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_2046 (22:02):
Yeah, kind of
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025_ (22:03):
Oh, love is Blind is out.
But I know you don't.
wanna hear about that.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (22:06):
No, I really
rach-guest573_1_02-21-20 (22:07):
Blind.
It's a snoozer.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_20465 (22:09):
Ooh, I'm watching Severance.
That's
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025_ (22:11):
I'm watching severance too.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (22:13):
Did you finish the
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025_ (22:15):
No, we just got to the point where
they went camping on that littlecamping trick and I, I called
the Twist I from the Be I
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_20465 (22:21):
You, you're on season two, but you
never finished season one.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025_2 (22:24):
We finished season one.
Oh, sorry.
I started watching it againbecause Dan wanted to watch it.
So I,
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_20 (22:29):
Because I thought you said you started
watching it and you couldn't getinto it.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025_ (22:32):
but we started watching it with Dan
and it just gives me a sleepWell excuse to sleep on the
couch next to him So I likecatch bits and pieces but I like
got enough of the plot becauseyou know, we both
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (22:43):
It picks up, like, because I re
watched it with Austin, and itwas like, the first season,
like, after like three or fourepisodes, then you're like, oh
shit, and like, you're reallyinvested.
It has a build, you know?
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025_ (22:55):
but okay the camping episode I hate
it I thought it was soridiculous and blew any kind of
realisticness and realism
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (23:02):
I think that was kind of the
point.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025_ (23:04):
Oh, I don't know.
I did not like it.
But I did call that twist fromthe beginning of the episode,
like the beginning of the
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (23:09):
I did too.
Yeah.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025_20 (23:10):
I was like, that's not And it's
funny because I talked about itwith my dad who had watched it
already and he knew.
And I was like, I don't thinkthat's her! Not to get too much
into it if you haven't watchedit.
But,
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (23:22):
I am, uh, so an episode airs
tonight, and then I haven'twatched the previous one.
The last one I watched was thecamping one, so, mum's the word.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-202 (23:33):
Yeah, okay, that's the last one we
watched too.
So there's one after that, isn'tthere?
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_2046 (23:36):
Yeah, there was one, the one that
released last week, and thenthere's one
rach-guest573_1_02-21-202 (23:39):
Okay, well, Dan and I will probably be
watching that sometime thisweekend, because it's his
birthday weekend and the kidsare spending the night at
Grandma and Grandpa's.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (23:48):
Oh, how nice.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-202 (23:51):
Okay, so that's a lot of TV talking.
Uh, what's something you learnedthis week?
I thought we were trying to makethese a little bit more, I got a
fun fact.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_2046 (23:59):
Okay, give it, give it.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025_ (24:00):
Um, I learned about this thing
called lecturers, uh, lectors,sorry, which is something that
you think you know about.
Lectures, uh, like lecturers,but it's something that happened
back in the 18, like sixties.
Pre-industrial revolution, maybea little bit industrial.
No, it was a part of theindustrial industrial
revolution.
So factory workers doing menialtasks 14 hours a day, they,
(24:24):
like, you would go fucking mad.
So all of the employees therewould chip in together to pay
someone to read them books, um,or read them the news and like.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_20465 (24:32):
It's like old timey podcasts!
rach-guest573_1_02-21-20 (24:35):
That's why I was like, I learned that?
I was like, no way! It's likethe OG podcast.
So you could go be rollingcigars in Cuba, which is where
it started, and somebody'sreading you frickin War and
Peace while you're working.
Like, suddenly, yeah, that's sohuman.
Um, and like suddenly thatdoesn't sound so bad.
(24:57):
You know, cause I, as I clean myhouse with my audio books and my
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_20465 (25:00):
It's the fucking best.
If no one is bothering me, oh mygod, it's so nice.
There are times when I'm like,all I want to do is clean this
house with my headphones in andnobody talk to me.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025 (25:12):
Yep.
Yep.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_2046 (25:13):
Yeah.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025_2 (25:14):
So that's what I learned.
Lectures is a fun little thing.
It was interesting bit ofhistory, but definitely not
enough to make a full episodeon.
So that was the fun thing that Ilearned this week.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (25:24):
Fun facts.
I have one about glitter, but Idon't have my notes in front of
me.
It's a little bit moreintensive.
So I
rach-guest573_1_02-21-202 (25:33):
We'll save that We'll leave everybody
on the edge of
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_20465 (25:36):
Edge of their glitter on the edge of
your glitter.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025_ (25:39):
Ed.
Yep.
Yep.
The glitter is coming.
Thing.
Can't wait to learn more aboutit.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (25:47):
All right.
Well, this is it for societychats.
I think I ain't got nothing elseto say.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-202 (25:52):
Yeah, I thought the elector thing was
going to take longer, but no.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (25:56):
It was interesting.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-202 (25:57):
Yeah, I learned it from this lady who
sings weird songs on TikTok, so
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (26:02):
Did you verify it though?
rach-guest573_1_02-21-202 (26:04):
Yeah, I did.
I have an article pulled
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (26:06):
Oh, okay.
All right, that's fair.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-202 (26:08):
Yeah, because she
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (26:09):
I don't trust anything I hear on
TikTok.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025_ (26:11):
She started singing songs about
unicorns, no, dragons.
It's the first time I saw her,but then she also just started
doing weird history, like inweird songs.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_20465 (26:19):
fun.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025_20 (26:20):
I do like her.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_20465 (26:21):
Send me her stuff.
I
rach-guest573_1_02-21-202 (26:22):
Okay, I'll find it.
It's out there somewhere, uh,starting with lectures.
And then if we could just makethis the Rachel Talks About
TikToks She's Seen podcast.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204 (26:34):
That's fine by me.
Cuz this is us,
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025_2 (26:37):
is that out there?
I'm sure somebody has a podcast.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (26:39):
Oh, yeah, definitely.
That's not, yeah, that's not abad one.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-202 (26:43):
Yeah, but also, just kidding, I don't
want to spend that much time onTikTok.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (26:47):
All right,
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025 (26:48):
will see you there!
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_20465 (26:50):
next time, next episode.
Don't know what order these goin, but you know.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-202 (26:55):
it's, it's around, but, uh, hopefully
it's somewhat topical.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_2046 (27:00):
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Let us know what you think.
What are you watching?
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025 (27:06):
Tell us, give us recommendations,
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_2 (27:09):
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Just literally send us, hi.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025 (27:28):
that would be nice,
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_2046 (27:30):
Would be nice.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-202 (27:31):
it's, it's the void out there.
Hello?
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (27:34):
We know people are listening
because we see the, you know,the stats, so you're out there.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025_2 (27:40):
30 seconds.
Okay.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (27:44):
And in that note.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-202 (27:47):
We'll see you next time on Society
Chats.
Chats.
Chats.
Chats.
Chats.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_2046 (27:54):
Lame.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025_ (27:56):
Why was that lame?
Welcome to Society Chats.
I'm Rachel.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (00:39):
I'm Laura.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025_ (00:39):
And this is our little bite sized
nugget of Impolite Society wherewe do all the Bullshitting,
shooting the shit, lots ofshitting.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_2046 (00:49):
We're shitting?
A
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025_2 (00:55):
We just do all of the chit-chatting
that a lot of other podcasts doin the beginning of their shows.
We, we know you might want itmaybe, so we put it together
conveniently outside of our mainepisode so you can listen to it
if you want, skip it if youdon't.
Or at the very least, it givesyou a little taste of impolite
(01:16):
society to hold you.
Over, between, release, dates.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204 (01:22):
little slurp a slurp.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2 (01:24):
Yuuuum.
Speaking of yum,
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (01:29):
I got a yum,
rach-guest573_1_02-21-202 (01:30):
yeah, what's tickling your taste buds
this week?
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204 (01:33):
alone.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025_ (01:35):
Oh, yes.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_2046 (01:37):
Okay.
Uh, you know, Rachel, but Idon't know if I talked, we have
not talked about this in theshow.
I do not watch reality TV.
I have a general ban onunscripted television.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-20 (01:49):
You've talked about it on the show, and
I believe you've passed somesignificant judgment against the
kind of people who like theshow.
Those kind of
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (01:57):
No, I, I know that I've talked
against reality TV show.
I'm saying, I don't know thatI've ever talked about alone.
Ha,
rach-guest573_1_02-21 (02:03):
something like that, along those lines.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (02:06):
But alone is the one thing that gets
a pass.
And you turned me on to it.
Um.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025_20 (02:12):
I like the reality TV.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (02:14):
And I have watched, I don't know how
many seasons, but you, you can'twatch too many, like back to
back to back.
Cause you start to get immune toit.
Right.
It starts to be the same shitdifferent day.
And so it's been a while since Iwatched it.
And then I saw the Australianseason of Alone pop on Netflix
and I'm like, yep, playwatching.
(02:34):
Very interesting.
Very good.
And then I noticed that therewas another season on Netflix of
Alone that I hadn't seen startedthat.
I fucking love that show.
I It's so good, and it's, Ithink it's because it's like a
lot of just people you don't seeon television, you know what I
(02:56):
mean?
Like, they're, they're allexceptionally rural individuals,
and Kind of their perspective, Ithink, is very interesting and
there's just so many aspectspsychologically of the whole
thing.
It's interesting.
If you don't know the premise,it's basically ten people put on
(03:17):
a super remote place.
They are survival experts ofdiffering levels and the
question is who is going tosurvive the longest wins the
prize.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025_ (03:28):
the key component is that you have
to be alone, right?
Because so many of these othershows pair people up or put them
in tribes, like Survivor.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (03:36):
or they're, they're alone, quote
unquote, but they have cameramenthere.
There's nobody there.
They, they film themselves.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-202 (03:44):
Which is also impressive because not
only do they have to be good atsurviving, but they have to also
have some kind of idea on howto, like, set up a shot
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_2046 (03:51):
Yeah, I know.
It's interesting.
Cause I imagine
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025_2 (03:53):
if you have all day, you probably
figure it out.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_2046 (03:56):
Yeah, but I, I think they probably go
through a very exhaustive, as inlike reading a lot of people
out, um, screening process.
Like I think they do like testruns, like they send them out
into like the wilderness for aday, and then are like, show me
how you do this.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And, cause they have to get goodfootage.
rach-guest573_1_02-2 (04:16):
Otherwise, you're just sending a person
into the woods for no reason.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_2 (04:20):
Exactly.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025_ (04:21):
So, okay, some of my favorite alone
moments.
There's like some that pop intomy brain.
And this just summarizes theshow.
Number one, the guy who tookdown a moose.
And then he just, he, they hadto come pull him out of the
woods, essentially.
He was gonna survive all winter.
He was gonna make it.
And the frickin Wolverine atethe moose fat that he had and he
(04:41):
had to kill it and I felt so badfor the wolverine because I'm
like it Didn't choose to bethere, but that's neither here
nor there the woman who Filmedherself taking off her clothes
talking about how she loved hernew body and how she like felt
strong
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (04:53):
And she was like dancing in front of
the fire naked.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-202 (04:56):
Yeah, and then they pulled her out
like the next day because shewas emaciated and you could tell
from the video
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_2046 (05:02):
Yeah.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2 (05:03):
Another highlight is the cop that tapped
after like 24
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_20465 (05:07):
That I think was the first season or
like the first season that Isaw, he was like all going to be
big man on campus.
And yeah, within 24 hours, he'slike, you got to come get me.
There's there's bears and wolveshere.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-202 (05:20):
Yeah, he was like, I'm done.
I'm out.
And I'm like, that's right.
Cause that's the key trend thatwe were talking about.
The more they talk, the biggerthey talk at the beginning, the
harder they fall.
I'm curious.
I'm going to watch it in onceit's into my rotation, but I'm
curious to see how Australiansdiffer.
Cause I feel like thepersonalities,
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_20465 (05:38):
They were.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025_2 (05:39):
is going to be a lot more mellow.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_20465 (05:43):
It's kind of a, a mix.
It was delightfully different inthe sense that there were
familiar notes, but yeah, therewas definite cultural
differences and just the terraindifference because where they
are in Tasmania is not Arctic.
You know, it's not balmy, butit's not Arctic the way that the
(06:04):
Canada seasons are because Ithink literally all of the U.
S.
alone.
rach-guest573_1_02-2 (06:10):
Vancouver, Island.
There's one island on thePacific Northwest that they
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_2046 (06:14):
Yeah.
And the most recent one Iwatched, because I finished
Australian alone, and then Iwatched this other one, and this
one is Northern Saskatchewan,Canada.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025_2 (06:22):
Oh wow.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (06:23):
And yeah, just very different
terrain, and it was veryinteresting, but I, I'm really
interested to see your thoughtson Australia, because there was
somebody very early on that Iwas rooting for so hard, and I
just wonder what your thoughtsare going to be.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-202 (06:37):
Well, I'm excited to check it out.
And I've been doing a little bitof my own research about da na
da from my own Netflix purse perviewing.
Is that the right word?
Um, but this is a drama seriesin the vein of inventing Anna
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_2046 (06:54):
Belle Gibson.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025_ (06:55):
Val Gibson.
I'm sorry.
I just, I, I, I, love Aussies.
I think the personalities,they're always a hoot.
They're so good natured.
I hate the accent.
I think it makes you sound sodumb and that's
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_20 (07:06):
Really?
rach-guest573_1_02-21-20 (07:06):
words.
Maybe just specific areas
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_2046 (07:10):
Yeah, I don't know, like, the regional
differences, but I likeAustralian accents.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025_2 (07:15):
we were in Ireland, we went on a
pub crawl with, uh, you know, agroup and there was two
Australians and I'm just like, Iam sorry.
You are such lovely people, butI do not like the accents.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (07:28):
Oh, and you were going to say what
we guessed it on the, uh, the
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025 (07:31):
more tame.
It's like, there's some thatsound more English, and there's
some that sounds like Englishwith a southern drawl, and
that's the one that I'm not sobig on, not so keen on.
And so after watching this showabout Australians, uh, the con
artist, the wellness guru whosaid she could cure cancer with
(07:51):
diet, I just like, every time,the biggest takeaway is one, why
did I watch this?
It's, it's.
It's gonna be sad.
There's gonna be people withactual cancer in there.
And I'm just like, shit, that'ssad.
And then B, I'm never gonna beable to say cancer again without
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204 (08:06):
Kansa.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-20 (08:07):
trying to say it like an Australian.
Cause they must have, I, every30 seconds they were saying the
word.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (08:12):
So did, did you watch the
documentary on Netflix or thefictionalized, the drama series?
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025_2 (08:19):
It was good.
It was well done.
I liked it.
You know, uh, breaking thefourth wall was a big part of,
well, not a big part of it, buta
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (08:27):
I always liked that in a show.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-202 (08:28):
Yeah.
and it just was like, it waskind of cool the way they did
it.
Uh, still sad story, such a sadstory.
And I'm going to say it here.
If my arm is threatening therest of me, cut the arm off.
I don't need it.
I don't want it.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (08:43):
I have not seen it yet, but we did
a recap on, actually on my otherpodcast, NerdTalking.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025_ (08:48):
Oh.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_2046 (08:48):
about this just a few days ago.
Uh, I do not want to watch AppleCider Vinegar until I have a
more solid understanding of the,that's okay, I knew exactly what
you were talking about, uh,before I had a more solid
understanding of the, thefactual aspect that it's based
on.
And Netflix just released a, um,The, basically the, the
(09:10):
Instagram con artist, which isabout Bill Gibson.
So I want to watch that
rach-guest573_1_02-21-20 (09:14):
That's good
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (09:15):
and then I'm going to watch Apple
Cider Vinegar.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-202 (09:18):
Yeah, I'll have to add that to my list
after Alone, once I've forgottenall about it.
But I mean, we can't talk aboutNetflix and Netflix
documentaries specificallywithout the real Belle of the
ball.
Fuck you, Belle Gibson.
The real Belle of the ball rightnow is the Gabby, Pedito
documentary, which, my gutreaction was, too soon.
(09:41):
But, it is made with
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (09:44):
but then you did end up watching it.
So.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-202 (09:46):
Well, because I saw, uh, comments.
Somebody was, they were talkingabout how they were using AI to
replicate her voice or whatnot.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_2046 (09:55):
Yeah, and they, they did, they did a
disclaimer when they did that,
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025_ (09:58):
Oh, yeah.
But it was just like, The waythat they were telling the story
was a lot more, sensitivity tothe victim, right?
And with her parents support andtelling her story.
And, you know, it's not just,oh, it's not, her story didn't
start the day she died, right?
It kind of, like, covered herlife up to it.
Um, and her parents and the babypictures.
(10:20):
And, oh, it rips your heart out.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (10:22):
It does.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-202 (10:23):
Yeah, I'm not finished with it.
I've only watched the first twoepisodes.
But
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (10:29):
a three parter, I
rach-guest573_1_02-21-202 (10:30):
Yeah, but to the part where the rest
of the country catches on what'shappening.
So, I've kind of lived that
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (10:36):
Did you see the body cam footage of
them when they went to the houseof the parents?
Yeah.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025 (10:41):
Yes.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_20465 (10:42):
That was the thing, because I had
seen a lot of the footage, likeI had seen Her, like, when the
cops pulled them over, you know,the, like, the domestic violence
intervention or whatever, I've,I had seen that on the internet
before, I'd seen some of thevideos that she had released,
and things like that, but thatbody cam footage was new to me
(11:03):
from start to finish, and,because I don't, I don't think
it had been released at allbefore this documentary, at
least I had never seen it, and Iwas like, whaaaaat?
rach-guest573_1_02-21-202 (11:12):
Well, that stuff takes time, right?
So then, Yeah.
the news cycle has moved on bythe time the Freedom of
Information Act Pulls that out.
Um, the one where they went tothe parents.
Is that what you're talkingabout?
Yeah.
I mean that was honestly thepart that I had the least amount
of problem with them, right?
Is them just like being like notalk to our lawyer because
everybody has the right to that.
(11:33):
That's like a right.
What really got me was when theyblocked Gabby's parents on their
phones.
That's heartless.
That's
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_2046 (11:40):
Yeah.
Yeah.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025_2 (11:41):
To not even say like, you know, I
don't know what you say, butsomething, right?
Even if you are in the mindset,you're going
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (11:48):
Or you just say, Brian is home.
He doesn't know what happened toGabby.
Or literally anything.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025 (11:54):
this is the last place he saw her.
Just so they have a jumping off,but they didn't want them I
mean, they didn't want them tofind her, so that's
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_2046 (12:01):
Nope.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025_20 (12:02):
I just, it really took I was
trying to cast The Benefit ofthe Doubt, because I didn't
really know that much about thecase.
Just thinking like Again, thebook that I read about disaster
psychology is like, it's so easyto pass judgment on people who
are in these situations becausewe know the whole story.
Like, people in 9 11 and theWorld Trade Centers ran up to
the
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_2046 (12:22):
Yeah.
That's so sad because theydidn't know.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025 (12:25):
they had no idea what was happening.
And so in hindsight, we're like,why would you do that?
But, you know, they didn't havethe information.
So to me, it's like, oh, maybethey didn't know the whole thing
that he came back and said, youknow, we left.
I don't know what happened toher.
I'm gonna get blamed for it, orwhatever, blah, blah, blah, and
so they try to close the wagons,or whatever.
(12:46):
But,
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (12:46):
the wagons.
Yeah.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-202 (12:47):
yeah, but the fact that they didn't
have anything, and they justlocked out parents who were
worrying about their kid,that's,
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_2046 (12:55):
Well, and he called them.
I don't know if you've seen thatin the
rach-guest573_1_02-21-20 (12:58):
called them twenty times, or something,
on the day she disappeared.
So, Yeah.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (13:04):
on a 55 minute phone call that
immediately ended with themhanging up and calling a lawyer.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-202 (13:10):
Yeah, that's, ugh.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (13:12):
And listen, I get it.
That's my whole thing, is like,protecting your children,
Getting them a lawyer.
Yeah, that is the right thing todo.
You know, you love your kid nomatter what.
You are going to try to protectthem but you don't, in my eyes,
you don't protect them to theextent of your integrity, your
compassion.
Like, you, you don't protectthem at all costs.
(13:35):
You protect them the best as youcan while maintaining what's
right.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-202 (13:39):
Well, and protecting them is also
helping them do protecting
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (13:43):
The right thing?
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025_ (13:44):
And their soul.
I mean, I thought I believe inthat, but it's just like you
help them by helping them do theright thing.
Not Yeah.
Getting you a momentary, what'sgoing to be best for you in that
moment.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_2046 (13:59):
Yeah.
And that's my whole thing islike when, you know, you, they,
as his parents and the fact thatlike, yeah, he's an adult, like
you can't compel him to go talkto the cops, like, but I can,
you know what I mean?
Like if I had a kid, they toldme, you know, a version of what
happened or they told me whathappened.
And then over time, like thecops are knocking at my door and
(14:20):
their parents are texting me.
I'd be like, listen, I have todo what I can live with.
You know, I have to sleep atnight and so I can go to the
cops and say this is all I knowand he, you know, he has a
lawyer and he's refused to speakwith you and I support his
decision in that, but I have totell you what I know because I
(14:41):
have to live with myself whenthis is all over.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-20 (14:43):
Right, and the fact that they kept him,
like, in the house when thepolice officer was there, and
they had her ban, I'm like, whata flippin idiot, too.
Like, that's not even a good wayto get away with a crime.
Because it was, anyways.
That's neither here nor there.
Uh, I saw some people talkingabout how his parents were
probably more apt to do that,because they had whatever
personality defect that enabledhim to kill his girlfriend.
(15:06):
Ha
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_20 (15:06):
That's, I mean, that's what I said.
I was like, shit.
Well, no wonder why he ended upkilling his girlfriend.
He's raised by thesepsychopaths.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-202 (15:11):
Well, I'm, you know, abuse is
cyclical, right?
So, you know, maybe that's whatwas going on in that house as
well.
But I did see a sister, like, Isaw that part where a sister
kind of tried to talk out alittle bit.
She said they've been iced out.
Yeah, I mean, they weren't notspared the wrath of the
internet.
Uh, but,
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (15:30):
bad for her, the sister.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-202 (15:32):
cause she probably did know the least,
right?
Um, and she said, I'm losing myparents and my brother.
So.
She kind of grasped the gravityof it all,
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (15:41):
And I think at this po
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025 (15:43):
than she should have been.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (15:44):
I saw something on Reddit that
said And, and, take this with agrain of salt, you know, the
internet, uh, because I didn'tverify it, I just read it, but
it, they said that she postedsomething semi recently,
something of like, I haven'tspoken to my parents in two
years, and da da da da, yeah, soI
rach-guest573_1_02-21-202 (16:06):
cause hopefully, I mean she has kids,
she's like, how am I going toraise my kids and like, not, you
know, knowing that I
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_2046 (16:12):
yeah,
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025_2 (16:13):
to this.
That's, hmm.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_2046 (16:15):
yeah,
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025_ (16:15):
And it's such, and this case, for
whatever reason, really grabs ahold of people's attention, and
you see all kinds of reactionsonline, I guess I, cause I,
somehow TikTok figured out thatI was watching it or talking
about it, and it started givingme TikToks about it and people
are just saying, you know,there's people, the, the more
kind of common side of like, oh,he's a monster, blah, blah,
(16:38):
blah, blah.
And then there's also the sidethat people are like, oh, why
would I care about her?
She's an abuser.
She did blah, blah, blah, blah.
Um, and there's just like,there's a lot of anger towards
her too.
And this is like, well, becauseshe, And who's to say, and
there's like reactive abuse andall these kind of things, but
these two were just a festeringcesspit.
(16:58):
I mean, they took a relationshipthat was already on the fray and
on the edge and they put it intoa pressure cooker of being in a
van 24 7.
Uh, yeah, and, but she wasinvolved, like the scratches on
his face and people were sayingthat she was like, As abusive as
(17:20):
he
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (17:20):
You have no idea.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025_2 (17:22):
of what's going on, but even if she
was, that's still not a deathsentence.
Like, come on.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025 (17:26):
Absolutely not.
And also, I will say, whoevercalled the police on that, on,
you know, yeah, he had no idea.
He, yeah, he had the, the modelof the van, a good description,
like that is a good citizen.
And I trust him when he saysthat he was slapping her because
(17:49):
he was, you know, I mean, he hadenough detail of saying like,
this is the van, this is wherethey went.
Like this is a concerned citizenwho pays attention.
And I believe him.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-20 (17:58):
Right.
Yeah.
I mean, they didn't knowanybody, it wasn't like it was a
plan.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_2046 (18:02):
Yeah.
Yeah.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025_ (18:03):
But it was just like, I think the
heartbreaking thing too, is justthat she was, Maybe even younger
than her years, you know, like a
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (18:10):
Oh, well, of course she was.
That's, I mean, pfft, that'severy 22 year old nowadays.
They're really 16! Like, backwhen we were kids, it was
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025_ (18:20):
the fact that when her relationship
was imploding, she went back toher ex boyfriend.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (18:25):
I know, that was so classic, yes.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-202 (18:30):
Being like, he's going to be the one
to save her.
And I
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (18:32):
Oh, I thought about him too, and I'm
like, oh my god, that guy mustlive with a lot of guilt.
Because he didn't take that lastphone call from her.
Because he was at work,
rach-guest573_1_02-21-20 (18:40):
what's he gonna do?
He was 2, 000 miles away!
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (18:42):
I know, but still, that, I mean, I
just know that that would weighon me, and it seemed like from
his, you know, the way he wastalking, it weighed on him too.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-202 (18:51):
Yeah, it's, mm.
It's just a tragic situation allaround.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (18:57):
It is.
And I really liked, um, Gabby'sdad at the, you haven't gotten
to this episode yet, do you wantme to talk about
rach-guest573_1_02-21-202 (19:04):
Yeah, that's fine.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_2046 (19:05):
Okay.
Where he, they talk at the endabout how, Gabby's case got so
much attention.
There are thousands ofindigenous and people of color
who do not get this kind ofattention.
yeah.
And the, his dad, her dad wassaying, you know, when I first
heard that I was not happy, youknow, uh,
rach-guest573_1_02-21-202 (19:28):
Yeah.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (19:29):
by that association that no, like,
you know, people only care aboutmy daughter because the color of
her skin, dah, dah, dah, dah.
He said, but that's not true.
You know, as time went on and Ilooked at it and thought about
it, he's like, Yeah, that'sfucked up.
And I like, that's, I think hehad a really good perspective on
it.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-202 (19:48):
Yeah.
I mean, cause
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (19:49):
And then,
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025 (19:49):
this case?
Like, women are killed all thetime by their romantic partners.
Why is this one?
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_20 (19:54):
because she had someone who, she had
people who cared about her.
That's, I mean, she is, she is awhite, attractive, blonde woman
who had people who cared abouther.
So when she went missing, theywent into action.
That's, that's the truth of it.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-202 (20:10):
Yeah.
And that's what I, that's what Ihave in my brain anytime I
imagine somebody's gonna murderme.
I'm just gonna be like, peoplelove me.
People will, you don't want todo this.
You're not, you don't want to dothis.
I'm not an easy victim, eventhough I didn't really think
anybody's trying to kill me.
But you know, that's like in myhead, that's what I was saying.
It's like when Tina, never mind.
I was gonna talk about TinaFey's memoir, but I don't need
(20:32):
to do that.
But it's just like, people,
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (20:34):
you like, you don't like to talk
about Tina Fey because she'sproblematic,
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2 (20:37):
doesn't make any sense.
It just doesn't make any sensein con, it's like me, me, us,
not us, us.
Making obscure 30 Rockreferences that I don't know if
anybody else gets.
Cause I do my other podcast withmy sister and she's like,
sometimes you say things and I'mlike, I don't know what you're
talking about.
I'm like, those are 30 Rockreferences.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (20:53):
And you're like, oh, you're not
Lara.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-202 (20:55):
yeah, I'm used to being able to say
them.
And she's like, okay.
But um,
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_2046 (21:01):
Okay.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025_ (21:03):
but it's, yeah, it's just like, you
know, people will look for me.
They're not going to drop the,they're not going to just drop
it.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (21:09):
I always think that, like, when,
when I, I, cause I, you know,consume a fair amount of true
crime and I'm, I look at thesemen who go after, you know,
Suburban women or whatever.
I'm like, what are you doing?
Like, this is terrible, butlike, advice.
If you're a serial killer, donot go after, you know, young
(21:34):
women that have families wholove them.
Like, you are just fuckingyourself over.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-202 (21:40):
Well, let's not give serial killers
advice.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_2046 (21:42):
know, I know.
But I'm just like,
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025 (21:45):
jump in the river, and then drown.
Step two, pick better targets.
No.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204 (21:52):
Truly.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025 (21:52):
From the afterlife.
Oh, man.
Well, I think, I think that'sbeen everything I've been
watching lately.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_2046 (22:02):
Yeah, kind of
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025_ (22:03):
Oh, love is Blind is out.
But I know you don't.
wanna hear about that.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (22:06):
No, I really
rach-guest573_1_02-21-20 (22:07):
Blind.
It's a snoozer.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_20465 (22:09):
Ooh, I'm watching Severance.
That's
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025_ (22:11):
I'm watching severance too.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (22:13):
Did you finish the
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025_ (22:15):
No, we just got to the point where
they went camping on that littlecamping trick and I, I called
the Twist I from the Be I
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_20465 (22:21):
You, you're on season two, but you
never finished season one.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025_2 (22:24):
We finished season one.
Oh, sorry.
I started watching it againbecause Dan wanted to watch it.
So I,
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_20 (22:29):
Because I thought you said you started
watching it and you couldn't getinto it.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025_ (22:32):
but we started watching it with Dan
and it just gives me a sleepWell excuse to sleep on the
couch next to him So I likecatch bits and pieces but I like
got enough of the plot becauseyou know, we both
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (22:43):
It picks up, like, because I re
watched it with Austin, and itwas like, the first season,
like, after like three or fourepisodes, then you're like, oh
shit, and like, you're reallyinvested.
It has a build, you know?
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025_ (22:55):
but okay the camping episode I hate
it I thought it was soridiculous and blew any kind of
realisticness and realism
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (23:02):
I think that was kind of the
point.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025_ (23:04):
Oh, I don't know.
I did not like it.
But I did call that twist fromthe beginning of the episode,
like the beginning of the
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (23:09):
I did too.
Yeah.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025_20 (23:10):
I was like, that's not And it's
funny because I talked about itwith my dad who had watched it
already and he knew.
And I was like, I don't thinkthat's her! Not to get too much
into it if you haven't watchedit.
But,
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (23:22):
I am, uh, so an episode airs
tonight, and then I haven'twatched the previous one.
The last one I watched was thecamping one, so, mum's the word.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-202 (23:33):
Yeah, okay, that's the last one we
watched too.
So there's one after that, isn'tthere?
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_2046 (23:36):
Yeah, there was one, the one that
released last week, and thenthere's one
rach-guest573_1_02-21-202 (23:39):
Okay, well, Dan and I will probably be
watching that sometime thisweekend, because it's his
birthday weekend and the kidsare spending the night at
Grandma and Grandpa's.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (23:48):
Oh, how nice.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-202 (23:51):
Okay, so that's a lot of TV talking.
Uh, what's something you learnedthis week?
I thought we were trying to makethese a little bit more, I got a
fun fact.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_2046 (23:59):
Okay, give it, give it.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025_ (24:00):
Um, I learned about this thing
called lecturers, uh, lectors,sorry, which is something that
you think you know about.
Lectures, uh, like lecturers,but it's something that happened
back in the 18, like sixties.
Pre-industrial revolution, maybea little bit industrial.
No, it was a part of theindustrial industrial
revolution.
So factory workers doing menialtasks 14 hours a day, they,
(24:24):
like, you would go fucking mad.
So all of the employees therewould chip in together to pay
someone to read them books, um,or read them the news and like.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_20465 (24:32):
It's like old timey podcasts!
rach-guest573_1_02-21-20 (24:35):
That's why I was like, I learned that?
I was like, no way! It's likethe OG podcast.
So you could go be rollingcigars in Cuba, which is where
it started, and somebody'sreading you frickin War and
Peace while you're working.
Like, suddenly, yeah, that's sohuman.
Um, and like suddenly thatdoesn't sound so bad.
(24:57):
You know, cause I, as I clean myhouse with my audio books and my
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_20465 (25:00):
It's the fucking best.
If no one is bothering me, oh mygod, it's so nice.
There are times when I'm like,all I want to do is clean this
house with my headphones in andnobody talk to me.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025 (25:12):
Yep.
Yep.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_2046 (25:13):
Yeah.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025_2 (25:14):
So that's what I learned.
Lectures is a fun little thing.
It was interesting bit ofhistory, but definitely not
enough to make a full episodeon.
So that was the fun thing that Ilearned this week.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (25:24):
Fun facts.
I have one about glitter, but Idon't have my notes in front of
me.
It's a little bit moreintensive.
So I
rach-guest573_1_02-21-202 (25:33):
We'll save that We'll leave everybody
on the edge of
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_20465 (25:36):
Edge of their glitter on the edge of
your glitter.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025_ (25:39):
Ed.
Yep.
Yep.
The glitter is coming.
Thing.
Can't wait to learn more aboutit.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (25:47):
All right.
Well, this is it for societychats.
I think I ain't got nothing elseto say.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-202 (25:52):
Yeah, I thought the elector thing was
going to take longer, but no.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (25:56):
It was interesting.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-202 (25:57):
Yeah, I learned it from this lady who
sings weird songs on TikTok, so
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (26:02):
Did you verify it though?
rach-guest573_1_02-21-202 (26:04):
Yeah, I did.
I have an article pulled
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (26:06):
Oh, okay.
All right, that's fair.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-202 (26:08):
Yeah, because she
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (26:09):
I don't trust anything I hear on
TikTok.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025_ (26:11):
She started singing songs about
unicorns, no, dragons.
It's the first time I saw her,but then she also just started
doing weird history, like inweird songs.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_20465 (26:19):
fun.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025_20 (26:20):
I do like her.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_20465 (26:21):
Send me her stuff.
I
rach-guest573_1_02-21-202 (26:22):
Okay, I'll find it.
It's out there somewhere, uh,starting with lectures.
And then if we could just makethis the Rachel Talks About
TikToks She's Seen podcast.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204 (26:34):
That's fine by me.
Cuz this is us,
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025_2 (26:37):
is that out there?
I'm sure somebody has a podcast.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (26:39):
Oh, yeah, definitely.
That's not, yeah, that's not abad one.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-202 (26:43):
Yeah, but also, just kidding, I don't
want to spend that much time onTikTok.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (26:47):
All right,
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025 (26:48):
will see you there!
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_20465 (26:50):
next time, next episode.
Don't know what order these goin, but you know.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-202 (26:55):
it's, it's around, but, uh, hopefully
it's somewhat topical.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_2046 (27:00):
Rate, subscribe, review.
Let us know what you think.
What are you watching?
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025 (27:06):
Tell us, give us recommendations,
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_2 (27:09):
everyone needs a good show
recommendation.
You can email us,rootedinplaysocietypodcast.
com.
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You can send us a text messageto the link in description.
If you are listening on apodcast app, just let us know
you're here.
Just literally send us, hi.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025 (27:28):
that would be nice,
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_2046 (27:30):
Would be nice.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-202 (27:31):
it's, it's the void out there.
Hello?
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (27:34):
We know people are listening
because we see the, you know,the stats, so you're out there.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025_2 (27:40):
30 seconds.
Okay.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_204654 (27:44):
And in that note.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-202 (27:47):
We'll see you next time on Society
Chats.
Chats.
Chats.
Chats.
Chats.
laura-b_1_02-21-2025_2046 (27:54):
Lame.
rach-guest573_1_02-21-2025_ (27:56):
Why was that lame?
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