March 21, 2024 • 42 mins
Prepare to have your fitness myths busted and truths unveiled as Beefcake Brina, the kinesiology maven with a no-nonsense TikTok reputation, joins us in a lively banter that's as real as it gets. We're zeroing in on the industry's notorious charlatans, from V Shred's dubious dealings to Brittany Dawn Davis's infamous scandals. Sabrina isn't holding back, and neither are we, as we dissect the consequences of deception and stress the vital need for integrity in a world where workouts meet wordplay.
This episode serves up a hearty dose of skepticism for those tantalizing "quick fix" claims and sheds light on the perils of spot reduction and other fitness fairy tales. We're calling out the misleading mantras and championing the credible champions of the fitness realm, like Jeff Nippard and Shyla, who have earned their stripes and our respect with their evidence-based approach. So, whether you're a gym rookie or a seasoned vet, prepare to be armed with knowledge that's as potent as your pre-workout.
As our conversation winds down, we transition to the sweet sounds of balance and harmony with Beefcake_Brina's other passion - music production. Brina spins her story of mixing beats and lifting bars, a testament to the rhythm of living a full, authentic life. By the end of this episode, you'll be pumped with the right advice to fuel your fitness journey and perhaps, inspired to dance to your own beat in life beyond the gym.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
OK, then I oh, we're on 26.
Even I'm forgetting whatepisode we're on now.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
See, you got to start with that.
Hey everybody, welcome to thepodcast.
Rob just forgot what episodenumber it was.
Not just me, get fucked.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
So we're on episode.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Oh shit.
Twenty six and I know?
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Oh yeah, you know that because I just said it.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
No, that wasn't that, it wasn't that.
So today on the, we have aSpecial guest is going to
introduce her name, because wejust went through three minutes
of trying to figure out whatwe're going to say.
So I'm going to let herintroduce her own name so that
everybody then knows what towhat to say.
Go ahead All right?
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Hey, I'm beefcake brina, otherwise known as
Sabrina, so call me either.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
All right, or we can just call you the entire.
You have to say the entirething, so you can't bring.
Otherwise known as Sabrina Cake.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Brina, otherwise known as Sabrina, otherwise
known as Brina, otherwise knownas.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Beefcake Sabrina Rina Beefcake.
There's something there, we'llfigure it out, it's you got to
say the entire.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Thing.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
OK, ok, sabrina, I'm just going to go with that
because I remember the teenage.
Who else remembers that show?
Speaker 1 (01:10):
I think I'm old, I don't know, but I so my sister's
name is Sabrina and she wasborn on October 31st, so there
were a lot of Sabrina, theteenage, witch jokes and bitch
jokes.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Oh for sure.
Well, sabrina is not known forbeing the teenage witch, though
Sabrina that we have, she's morefor this content.
I mean maybe some Halloweenstuff, sure, but yeah, why don't
you give people like Lula justintroduction of, like, what you
do, what you're about, that sortof thing?
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Yeah, absolutely yeah .
So yeah, I'm essentially youryour favorite quote, unquote no
bullshit online coach on TikTok,and that's kind of where I
primarily reside.
Yeah, I have a BS inkinesiology and I use my skills
of analyzing and breaking downresearch to essentially debunk
misinformation on the Internet,which is very similar to what
(02:03):
you all do with your why wedon't know anything about that.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
What are you talking about?
So wait?
Speaker 1 (02:07):
wait, wait.
What I heard here is thatyou're a no BS coach that has a
bullshit degree in kinesiology,right?
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Funny enough right.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Yeah, like that.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
That is good.
You need that on a shirt orsomething.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
I run a shirt.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
We'll figure it out as as time goes on.
Ok, so we need to know then.
I need to know because weobviously have our Bobby's in
the nutrition world.
Is there a Bobby of the fitnessworld?
Is there someone that's justspewing so much nonsense?
Speaker 3 (02:34):
that people like you have their new video.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
You have to go over it.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
You want me to name names, of course.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Well, that's what we're all about.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
His name is I want what we need here, we need here
yeah.
Just a few that I can think ofoff the top of my head that have
been continuously coming backare V Shred and Brittany Don
Davis Brittany Don, by the wayshe dumped her dog and it got
discovered a few days ago Herold dog seriously.
Yeah, yeah, it was the wholereddit thread on it there's
(03:04):
photo evidence and they the pitbull was my friend and dumped
yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Brittany Don Davis.
You can do a lot of things andpeople will forgive you.
Like you can fuck over humansin like the worst ways and
people like other humans theysuck.
But if you fuck over a dog youwill never live it's over, it's
like.
But this isn't the first timeeither.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
I am she's used animals in the past allegedly
through like YouTube and likedifferent, like horses, dogs,
etc.
So like, not surprised, butlike I don't know how she's
going to come back from this.
I mean, she had a lawsuitagainst her a year or two ago
within the fitness industrywhere she had to pay a
settlement I believe it was sixfigures, don't quote me on that
(03:47):
Essentially for scamming peopleback in 20, like a decade ago.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
A decade ago.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
I know you don't know about that.
You don't know about that.
I got to look into this afterthis.
Oh, you didn't know, I know.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Yeah, it was pretty damn big.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Hundreds of individuals, especially women,
for because on the internet shebecame.
She was a coach and she was anED warrior eating disorder
warrior and she claimed to haveexpertise in Ed's and so
naturally people signed up forher coaching.
She gave them very cookiecutter programs and very low
calorie diets and she screwedover a lot of people.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
And I'm pretty sure she claimed that those cookie
cutter programs were like unique, individual ones.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Yeah, yeah, and they were like people like wait a
second mine's the same as theirs.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
What's going on here?
It's like that's where.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Yeah, and so, yeah, she's got a lot of heat and then
, after she scammed in thefitness industry and knew that
she couldn't clear her namethere, she moved into the
Christian community.
So now she is under the guiseof God and XYZ and just things
just continue to come up oneafter the other, like there were
problems with her being aterrible foster parent and now
(05:01):
she can't do that anymore.
Yeah, it's like it's all overthe internet.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
I mean, I feel like I'm on a reality TV show, Like
you know you're, like you have agirlfriend that's watched Like
how do you watch this stuff?
And then five minutes lateryou're sitting there just kind
of like wait, what are the whowas that about?
What was that who said that?
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Right yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
It's just one after the other with her.
So now it's the.
She dumped her old pit bullbecause, quote, unquote, she
wasn't vibing with it, and thatwas her reason for dumping it.
I feel like you could have.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
I'm a super peaceful Zen person, but I will tell
people that if you want to seeme get pissed, do something to
an animal in front of me.
I will break every fucking bonein your body, yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Yeah, no, for sure it was a, it was pretty harsh, it
was pretty ridiculous.
So yeah, I would say Brittanydawns one of them, and then you
know, v shred, v shreds, kind ofoh god yes.
Yeah, he's Video on V shredthat's popping off again and
it's because he's gainingpopularity.
So people are looking up Vshreds reviews and they're
(06:10):
coming across my video on Tiktok, and so you know there's.
Well, it worked for me.
And I was like no, no, it's notabout what if it worked for you
or not, it's the fact that thisguy's the scammer.
And here's why.
Yeah but that's I.
Apparently he's popping offagain, so I Know, because that
video is my video of V shredsdoing doing a bit more numbers
(06:33):
right now.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
So yeah, I V shred, I get asked.
I get so for anybody who's DM'dme.
I've had several people DM melike I've seen this V shred guy.
What do you think about?
Yeah, very pretty right, anattractive man I will give.
I will give him.
He's a handsome young lad andhe's got a good physique and,
(06:57):
and those are the end of mycompliments.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Those pretty much everything and he doesn't have a
brain in that body.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
I yeah.
So like he has people likeabove him basically pulling the
strings that are that are reallysmart in marketing, so they're
very yeah the way that they theytarget people right who are
more vulnerable to his bullshit.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Yeah, they have an amazing marketing team that
knows to zero in on beginnersand and people that are just
getting in their foot in thedoor and they're the.
Shuffle them off and here'sthem.
Amazing body or program basedon your body type.
He's got some sort of new scamgoing on.
I.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Think he's still using this tomato type scam
because that was what washappening when I was a teenager,
so I almost got sucked into itmyself.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Tell people what the somatic type scam.
Yeah, tell people.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
So there's this theory and it's it's a theory
and theory, meaning that it'snot quite proven where there's
three different types of bodytypes and sometimes there's four
, so endomorph, ectomorph and amesomorph, and there's in that
Well, let's start back in.
Like the 1960s is when this allstarted.
This was a psychology Studythat a psychologist did or, yeah
(08:10):
, psychologists on collegestudents, basically placing them
in three categories, in thethree I just named.
And then somewhere along theway, decades through, the
fitness industry was like oh,let's take this and let's use it
as a prescription for fitnessand exercise and diet
interventions.
And, although it has like alittle bit of truth to it, it's
(08:35):
the the point, or what unprovesor disproves the theory is the
fact that we aren't one body allthe time and we see that with
Bodybuilders as a good example,where they're in one stage of
their bodybuilding career andtheir career and they're
considered an acto more.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
But then when?
What?
Just describe the three bodiesof mesomorph and endo endo more
so.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Like the acto is someone who's like apparently
tall, lanky, lean Me.
Metabolism as a morph issomewhere in the middle, and an
endomorph is the exact opposite.
They're always short and stockyand can't lose weight and this
and that must be.
And the thing is it's like yes,we have some science around it,
(09:19):
but like it's not, again, it'snot, it's not proven, because we
have people breaking thoseparameters all the time.
You know, we could take me asan example where trigger warning
I was diagnosed with anorexiaand binge eating disorder
Several years ago, when I was ateenager, I would be considered
an acto more, but now I wouldmaybe be considered an Mesomorph
, and when I was chubby, beforeyou know, getting into my eating
(09:41):
disorders, I would beconsidered an endo more.
So the fact that, like you, canbreak these categories Proves
the whole theory incorrect, andso it's not a prescription for
exercise.
We truly don't fall into one ofthree categories and that's the
(10:02):
problem.
But it's easily believablebecause Correlation right.
I think it's a little bit morecomplicated.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
I think it's because we like to be, we like to have
these little categories and welike to be told we're kind of
different than other people.
So if I go to someone and say,hey, the reason you can't lose
weight is everyone else isputting you into this broad
category, when instead I knowit's because you are in this
Different, specific category andyou need to work out based off
your category.
(10:29):
Which, by the way, I find itvery strange because it's like,
even if you are in thesedifferent categories, is the
training really going to be thatdifferent like?
Speaker 3 (10:35):
you're still gonna be like.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Right, so even further.
So yeah, it's just levels ofbullshit.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
It goes all the way down, yeah and that's an even
more important part is that oncethey put you in this special
category, they have this magicformula that you need to follow.
That will get your results and,of course, we love that magic
formula.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Yeah, and that's cookie cutter at the other day.
That's what it is.
It's cookie cutter.
It's like, oh, you're anendomorph.
You get the endomorph program,one, truly two endomorphs I'm
just gonna use that like aren'tthe same, like to still two
different types of lifestyles,two different things going on to
, like different types of timecommitments or eating, eating
styles or whatever.
(11:17):
So you know it's, it's the factthat we're still case-by-case
basis is After, after thosecategories, and that's what
disproves the theory, especiallysince we don't really have much
science on it in fitness at allor from much of a nutritional
and exercise standpoint.
It's literally all inpsychology.
So the fact that people pulledlike, look these studies from
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psychology and they're like,yeah, we're just gonna shove it
into fitness and nutrition isfunny Devil's advocate if you're
just an average person.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
I'm just looking around.
I notice a lot of people hey,that person's really tall and
skinny, this person's short andstocky, like you see these
things a lot.
So like when it's when I think,just when you see it, and then
people are like oh, this is whythese people are like that.
I don't know, we're alwayslooking for reasons.
We want to.
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Yeah, so it's tough.
Yeah yeah, it's stereotyping isessentially what it is.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
So, yeah, I think the important takeaway from this is
that somatotypes came from somecreepy psychologists that just
wanted to photograph nudecollege boys.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
That's exactly what it was, and that's still better
than leaving your dog by theside of the road.
Let me just throw that outthere.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Yeah, absolutely, I agree with that.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Still, I will still have a drink with that person
before the dog lever.
That's all I'm saying.
But can I just say about Vshred?
I my I do like the somatotypes,but my favorite is when he has,
like Harvard, found a new studythat unlocked the fat gene, or
(12:49):
in, like you know we have that.
It's so like if you haven'tseen any V shred commercials.
They are like an SNL skit.
They really are like a Saturdaynight live.
Someone can try to come up withbullshit for the fitness
industry, but they are trying toactually sell this nonsense.
Yeah, it's like we found thisloophole.
Oh, yeah, it's this fat lossloophole Discovered by Harvard
(13:12):
that we have engineered into asupplement that you can buy.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Yeah, he's also gotten called out for blatantly
copying a copy, pasting word forword famous youtubers content
as well, like biomechanicalContent the video of him doing
the the inverse chest fly.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Yes, that was amazing .
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Yeah, we're, you have it.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
But obviously V shred took that down, but I think you
can still find it Clips of itit's so good.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
So basically, you hold your hand out in front of
you straight, like a straightarm, and then you turn your
chest in towards your arm, soyou're not moving your arm at
all.
You just turn your body, whichdoes literally nothing.
Basically, you're just holdingyour arm.
That's about the post workYou're.
You're getting some front deltsby just holding your arm in
front of you.
That's.
It's so good.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Oh man.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Oh man, that's V shred for anybody listening.
I would just you know, ignore,ignore, ignore.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
V shred has to say you try to bring it on,
blacklist them immediately.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
OK, so we've called out our names.
We've called out our names.
So I mean, ok, I think we'vecalled out a little bit on the
bullshit, but like, what wouldyou give for people?
What would you tell people who,because we listen to, we have a
lot of listeners who are, likeyou know, beginning out,
beginning their fitness journey,their health journey Like, what
would tips would you give tothem, what to look out for?
What would you just suggest forsomeone that's just like I want
(14:46):
to get healthier?
Speaker 3 (14:47):
Right, right, absolutely so.
If they're on social media,cleaning up your, what I call
the social, your diet, yoursocial media diet, is super
important.
So and it's funny because I wasactually just on a podcast
recently where I talked aboutthis exact thing too that,
although credentials aren't endall be all, it is a green flag
(15:08):
If someone has credentials likea degree or a certification, or
two or multiple, because that'sat least a foundational that
they they, you know have goneout and achieved.
It's an integrity thing at theend of the day.
Aside from that, though, thatdoesn't always mean everything,
so there are some people that Iknow with PhDs who don't know
(15:28):
jack shit, jules Seaman.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
I can name a couple.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Yeah, we've talked about it.
We're not going to get intoJules.
It's low hanging fruit and Iwant to, I want to.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
So anyway.
So, yeah, not end all be all,but definitely a green flag, I
will say people who speak withnuance that is important,
especially in the evidence basedcommunity People who, when they
say bold claims that seem novelto beginners, they have, they
can back it up, they canactually back the claim up.
Nothing grinds my gears more.
(16:04):
When I see someone say researchsays X Y Z, I'm like does it?
Does research say that, or didyou find this word for word off
a blog on Google?
Because I could take this wordfor word, paste it into the
search bar and find exactlywhere you got it from.
So, yeah, that's definitelysomething that to look out for.
(16:25):
And then, I guess, being awareof clickbait.
Right, clickbait exists in thesense that we all need to market
ourselves as creators.
Right, we all want to havehooks, but like, for example,
spot reduction, clickbaits,clickbait, like that's an easy
one.
You know.
Exercises to get rid of back fator whatever fat or inner thigh
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fat, or tone this or tone that,like that yeah that's a very
easy clickbait title that youknow you could tell if someone's
bullshitting at the end of theday.
And it's funny because a lot ofthese are a lot of those types
of videos I've seen.
Some have come from creditedindividuals, but they are just
playing the social media gameand they're like, oh, I'm going
(17:07):
to mislead anyway because it'sgoing to get used in engagement.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
I've seen a couple of people like that yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Yeah so it's unfortunate.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Yeah, like the spot.
The spot reduction is a bigthing because we all have the
love handles, the lower belly.
That's just like there's alittle bit there that you were
like, oh, I just want to get ridof this.
I've had people DM me and belike, there's just this little
bit I want to get rid of.
How do I target that?
And I was like, listen, if Iwant to make money, I just sell
you some, some plan and then youknow that's nothing, because at
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the end of the day, you reallycan't do that outside of your
tincture essentially and let metell you for anybody listening
like, losing.
you know, like if you have, likeif you have a large amount of
excess body fat, you can lose alot of it, not easily, but more
easily, because once you get tothe end, that last little bit is
always going to be the hardest.
It's like an exponentialdifficulty, because at the end
(18:01):
you're like, oh, it should bejust as easy to lose this last
little bit of weight as it wasthe first 90% of it.
It's so much harder your bodyis going to fight to keep on to
that.
You're going to be hungry,you're going to be tired.
You know, like, so it's.
You have to really assess is it?
How much, is it worth it?
How much stress am I going toput on myself to lose this last
little bit?
Speaker 3 (18:19):
So that's just right, it's just like you know you're
going to be able to really get alittle bit of stress on it.
Yeah, that, and influencershave really just kind of made up
some terms to like, really like, get at you for something like
it.
On the women's side of thingslike hip dips, like that's not a
thing Like it's your firstcancer depression, by the way,
like biomechanically speaking,anatomically speaking, but I
(18:41):
mean it's like.
It's a term that like wascreated somewhere years ago.
That's being like whateverworkouts, exercises, a trainer,
a program, and it's just likepreying on people's insecurities
, Like that's not a thing untilwe made it a thing.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Like, why do?
Speaker 3 (18:58):
we care so much about our hip dips or like love
handles, like that's notactually a thing, it's a made up
term, like there's no suchthing as a love handle, it's
whatever fives deposit there.
We just called it that andwe've decided to use that term
as a way to prey on people'sinsecurities not us, but I mean
people who again do that, whojust want to make money.
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It's you know these buzzwordsExactly.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
That's what I was just going to get at.
You have these like littlethings that when you see it,
it's just the kind of clickbaity titles, but they really,
they work really well.
It is kind of, isn't it kind of, sad that nutrition, fitness,
it doesn't really matter.
The way you get a following iseither by basically saying
bullshit or calling out bullshit.
I feel like those are the twopaths you can get, because no
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one wants to hear like, okay, sohere's the science based
evidence.
No, they don't care.
They want either the nonsenseor calling out the nonsense.
Those are the two ways, yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
Right, right, exactly .
Yeah, it's funny.
A lot of and it's when I lookat the even just TikTok as a
whole a lot of the bullshit,because misinformation
scientifically spreads six timesfaster than truth.
I'd have to find the PMID forit because it's an interesting
study, by the way, becausethat's the case, a lot of these
people who are bullshitting aregoing to typically have larger
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followings because of that,because it's so novel of
information, so it is hard tokind of bust your ass and put
out the answer.
That's not pretty becausenobody wants to hear it versus
the opposite.
So at the end of the day, we asevidence based coaches and
individuals, have to kind ofstay in our bubble and not worry
(20:35):
about kind of what anyone elseis doing in that aspect or like
how many followers someone has.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Yeah, that's a big one.
The number of followers someonehas tells you fucking nothing
about how good their informationis Correct.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
That's fucking nonsense.
Yeah, river King has like sixmillion followers.
Yeah, let's listen to that guy.
Okay, yeah, and oh, fuck, I've.
Now I'm on River King brain andI can't fucking eating brain.
God damn it.
What the fuck?
I don't remember what I wasgoing to say.
Rob, say something.
My brain.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
I mean, I was just going to say that this is we
call this brandolini's law,which is it takes exponentially
more energy to debunk bullshiton the internet than to create
it.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Yeah, that's why I've been taking breaks from the
internet lately.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Oh, yeah, yeah.
You especially see that withthe creators that are debunking
this stuff and trying to put outthe good content is they will
often get stressed, depressedand need to take breaks.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Because it is so hard on us.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
But you know what my break was good.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
I just thought of the thing I was thinking of.
It's so because nutrition orfitness, it doesn't really
matter.
This is how it's so frustrating, because if you're going to
call out bullshit, you have tothen back it up with a lot of
evidence, right?
But the people saying thebullshit all they really have to
say and I've seen this over andover, at least in the nutrition
space is you're just keeping upthe status quo and the status
(22:09):
quo doesn't work.
If the status quo worked, thenpeople would be healthier.
Because people aren't healthier.
It's clearly not working andit's not right.
That's really all they have tosay.
That is enough for a largeenough percentage of people to
then go.
Oh yeah, that makes sense.
I shouldn't go with theevidence-based person, I should
go with the person saying thesewild things because it's
(22:29):
different, right?
That's kind of what I've seen alot of.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
Yeah.
Yeah, I feel like there'salways three main things that we
continue debunking, or threereasons why something's being
debunked.
Either A they're pulling upanimal studies and they're
playing that game and thinkingthat animal studies translate to
human studies.
They're playing the correlationequals causation game, which we
know.
Correlation doesn't equalcausation game or causation.
(22:55):
That's not the case.
Or they're oh my God, I forgotthe third one.
There's a third one oh, itworked for me game they're
playing it.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Oh, it worked for me.
Oh, the anecdote yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Yeah, anecdotes over everything.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Yeah, it really does, man Anecdotes are.
We talk about this so much, butwe just kind of have to keep
doing it because they are sounbelievably powerful for a V
shred to go.
Look at all these people I'vehelped and anytime I call
someone out for their bullshit Ialways get people in the
comments saying but they'vehelped people.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
It works for them.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
It works for them.
How does them helping othersnegate the terrible information
they're giving?
And for them it just does, Iguess.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
And and.
Yeah, when you give somebodyterrible information, you might
see results, not necessarily asa result of the information that
they were given, but it couldbe something that they were
doing entirely differently.
Yeah, it's fabricated andthey're going to.
Yeah, they're going to continueto believe that that wrong
(24:03):
information is correct andthey're going to make bad
decisions because of that downthe line.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Right Example I wear a waste trainer during my
workouts and I start working outfour times a week.
Going from zero, I can claimall day that the waste trainer
was the reason my waist gotslimmer, but I started actually.
I started doing workouts fourtimes a week and I was burning
more calories.
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
And my waist got slimmer.
Are those coming back in Wastetrainers?
Speaker 3 (24:30):
They've always been around.
I'm Latina, so I'm like in theLatin community it's always a
big thing.
It's always been a big thing.
So they I mean it does and itdoesn't it's like one of those
things that are always there.
It's like an evergreen bullshittrend, like yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Okay, okay, okay, give us Brina's biggest bullshit
and I'm going to put like a bigreader echo on that.
So it's like, are you justgoing to be like open category
on it, like any?
Speaker 2 (24:58):
person or anything Like are like in the just
everything.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Open category Biggest bullshit.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Biggest.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Not the little bullshit, not the medium
bullshit.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
The biggest bullshit.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
No medium bullshit right here, oh God.
I'm trying to think of thethings that keep you awake at
night and you get frustrated byit, right?
Speaker 1 (25:17):
We're putting you on the spot.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
I'm trying to think, because there's so many things
that I've called out, it's noteven a big deal.
Oh gosh, am I going to bringthis one up again?
Yeah, screw it, whatever.
Okay, one of the one of thebiggest bullshit that almost I
think it, almost it could havepotentially started.
No, it did start a lawsuit andyou had a few people on your
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podcast, I believe the other day.
That may or may not have talkedabout this, but Ryan Reed,
actually that's probably oh God,Ryan the biggest bullshit that
I have a come.
Ryan Reed is it was a collectivecall out by me yeah right Other
fit Adam Beth, franco, matt,her yeah, her partner, matt
(26:04):
Olivia Pellis, your set fitnessand so he fit.
And I think Ben Carpeter waspart of it at one point.
I think it was like a lot ofpeople came out or like, okay,
we're going to call Ryan Reedout again.
And Ryan Reed is essentially aLiam, if you don't know a glute
expert who has a female onlyclients and he's very handsy and
(26:29):
he was called out originallyback in 2020 by Ben English and
I for being handsy and then itkind of died.
It kind of died out and thenthat large group that I just
mentioned, we all came back andcollectively, in February of
2021, decided to all go ham andcall him out because he posted
(26:52):
his heart on if you know what Imean on social, his fitness
social media, on TikTok, in 48,in a span of 48 hours, multiple
times because he wasn't gettingviews.
And so I took that.
I was like um, isn't the guy,this the guy that was handsy
with clients in the group chatof all these coaches?
And we're like yeah, and so wedug kind of further into it and
(27:15):
we're like you know what this isworth a call out again because
he's harassed, and like we havelike evidence, like screenshot
it like it was.
This was like going to go onthe news like articles, like
there was going to be a lawsuit.
I don't know what has happenedto it.
It got into the hands of higherups.
I don't know what's going onwith it, but we have evidence
(27:36):
against it.
We were all ready to likeliterally go to court for this
and yeah, so we posted about itand it blew up and he fleed from
Scottsdale, Arizona allegedlyto California and is apparently
doing the same thing now.
He like hasn't stopped and hehasn't been really caught.
But I don't.
(27:57):
We really tried to get thisinto the hands of police and
like higher, like authority andit did at one point, but yeah,
we don't.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
It just kind of dissipated, which is sad, and
we've had so many women comeforward about about this, like
we all have evidence andscreenshots and audio files and
like all of it like just I wasso happy when that whole thing
came up because when I wasgetting started on TikTok, the
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very first person, the veryfirst big person that like tried
to attack me, was Ryan Reed,and he attacked me because I had
slight, slight little dorses ofthe spine and so my spine
wasn't flat when I was doing hipthrusts and I was it always
comes for yeah, and so I he,like you know did this big thing
(28:49):
.
Oh, you're doing it wrong, blah, blah, blah.
I came back to him and like,look, you can't look at the
spine.
Your spine isn't what's moving,the moving joint.
You're looking at the pelvis inrelation to your, your thighs,
and just because somebody hasslight lordosis doesn't mean
that they shouldn't be showinghow an exercise is done.
(29:12):
Yeah, and he kept, he keptragging on that.
He kept being like no, you'renot allowed to train people
because you have a little bit ofa different body than other
people do.
And like I just kept being likeyou know, we do not gatekeep
fitness based on people's bodiesand stuff.
And his followers wouldactually come over to my page to
(29:32):
like they would become beingready to put up a fight and
stuff, and they'd see my contentand they'd be like, okay, our
guy's an asshole and this guy'sactually really nice.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
Yeah, yeah, that's kind of how it always started,
cause he did the same to atrainer named Bren.
She she's kind of come offTikTok since then, but he did
the same thing to a trainernamed Bren and so she had to
come back with her own video.
That was evidence to base andthat that also catapulted into
us finding those sexuallyexplicit videos Somewhat
(30:06):
sexually explicit videos andthen calling them out.
So it's so funny that you saythat, because literally the
exact thing was done to Bren.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Yeah, I'm not, I don't know a whole lot of that
about this, but I will say likein those sorts of situations
they generally, like you said,they move and they do the same
thing, which really sucks, Causethey don't stop unless they
were forced to stop Right, likeit just.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
And there's too many of those people out there too,
like male trainers withexplicitly female client base
that are glute experts, which isnot a complete not, like always
, a hundred percent a completered flag.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
However, most of the time it is, and most of the time
, if they're getting reallyhands you with you, then yes,
that's a huge red flag rightthere, right.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
Of course.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Of course, yeah, and social media isn't like it's
kind of a double-edged swordbecause if you look, you know
before we had social media youcould just move and it was
easier.
You know people wouldn't knowabout you.
But also with social media youcan reach a lot of people, so
you'll have people calling outbut there's just so, there's
just this endless pool of morepeople that you can target.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
So it's kind of yeah, unfortunately, the last I
checked on Ryan cause I did lookto see if, like, anything had
happened with that and like hewas just back on TikTok doing
the thing again, yep.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
And that's the unfortunate part.
It's just, it's like a back tonormal and, like you know, he
hasn't been called out just once.
It's been multiple times andthe sad part is it gains like
traction.
And then it's like oh my God,we're finally getting somewhere
where this like this you know,we can finally do something
about this to stop this, so hedoesn't harm other people and
then it's like again itdissipates.
(31:44):
And then we're like shoot, wethought we had it this time,
cause.
Yeah.
So like hopefully people canlook him up and are now more
aware of him, but like we can'tstop.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Well, okay, so we, we get a lot of the bullshit
people that you need to stayaway from.
I feel like before we end, weshould definitely give at least
a few good channels to promotesome good books.
I agree, let's switch gears,Like we can actually say like,
hey, check these people out.
Cause the person I kind of gotinterested when I got into
fitness was Jeff Nippard.
If you haven't know, he'smostly on YouTube.
It's great, yeah.
(32:16):
Yeah, you can see find him onother things, but very like,
he's great.
If you're starting out, Justlook up Jeff Nippard.
He breaks down things in a veryeasily digestible way, I would
say, and gives you like justclear.
Oh okay, here's the things youcan do if you're starting out.
If you have two days, do thisfour days, like that sort of
stuff, and so he's probably myfavorite.
If you're just beginning yourjourney, look up Jeff Nippard.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
Sure, sure for sure, yeah, no, some great people, I
would say.
When I first started my ownjourney on TikTok, the first few
people I found were Beth,farakko and Matt, and then there
was what you call it OliviaPellish, your Set Fitness.
She's on there too.
I love her.
There's also a new girl I wantto shout out.
(33:00):
She's a dietitian and she's aperson of color, which is very
it's not common in the dietitianrealm.
So women and women of color andI'm a woman of color, so it's
nice to see other women in colorbut she's a different ethnicity
than I am, but she's her nameShaila.
(33:22):
Shaila health was Shaila, ohwe've had her on here.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
We've had her on the podcast.
Shaila's a friend, yeah good, Ilove her.
I was gonna say something.
I was like well, so we've hadShaila on who.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
But I was like you might be saying the same person
because you're in the middle ofsomething.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
Yeah, and Shaila's one of them.
Yeah, yeah, also my businesspartner, megan Waits, w-a-i-t-s.
She's also evidence-based, herand I, we're always doing stuff
together.
Her husband, mark Dallas Waits,is a chef, so he's on TikTok
too, and he's currently blowingup for his recipes and whatnot.
(33:56):
He's also into fitness, sothat's fun.
But yeah, no, those are a fewgood people that I can really
name off the top of my head thatI always follow Coach Frizzle
too.
She's awesome, what's?
Speaker 2 (34:09):
your take on Athelenex over there, sabrina?
I'm kinda curious because Ijust wanna talk about it because
he's one of the biggest, ismaybe the one of the biggest, at
least yeah, yeah he says so.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
You see, for me it's, he's a back-and-forth, because
there's some things that he saysthat are very evident space,
and it's great.
But then he'll like jump thatthreshold, and then you'll say
something that's bullshit.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
I'm like, yeah, I'm like, yeah, I think that's for
you to get that big, you kind ofhave to blur the lines a little
bit.
I don't know.
Yeah, it's, it's a tough.
I've always had a tough, like Ilike a lot of what you're
saying, but also there's alittle bit.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
So, yeah, if you see athlete next out there yeah it's
good, some of it's not as good,yeah like I mean, he was big
and back when YouTube was huge,several years ago, you know, and
he's still around and he'spivoting.
He's still growing as aplatform, I believe.
But yeah, I don't know.
It's just like for me it's hardto listen to someone's content
(35:13):
or watch their content whenthey're not like steady, like
it's okay to change.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
Yeah, not consistent.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
But it's like it's a very like.
One day it's like greatevidence-based content, and then
another day it's like bullshit,and then it's like he keeps
going back and forth and I waslike, yeah, I don't know if I
can keep giving you the benefitof the doubt like I think.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
I think for me two of the main ones when I was
getting started were pure bothit and Pure and Obese to beast.
Yes, I know, and they're yeahyeah, john gloves, yeah, they've
got they.
It's not so much that they putout like scientific content or
(35:53):
anything, but they put out likenice content, it's Friendly,
it's, it makes you like enjoywhat they're, what you're
getting into and stuff.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
Yeah, yeah, no, absolutely I yeah a lot.
Even that content's great fromlike watching all the scientific
stuff like Lane Norton.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
I love Lane Norton.
No, you know, yeah, of course.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
Yeah, like one of my favorites that and Brad shown
field daddy of kinesiology.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
So I have to say like after I got into Jeff Nippert
and kind of got the basics, Ihopped over to Renaissance
periodization, which, if youhaven't seen, this is Dr Mike is
retell is retail.
I don't know, you've run sincethe spring of last year.
But yeah, he does is a littlebit more advanced.
So, like, I kind of likestarted Jeff Nippert and then
hopped over to Renaissanceperiodization and they go a
little bit further in depth.
(36:42):
If you, if you kind of want toknow, like actually how to you
know design a program, that sortof stuff, you can go to them on
YouTube.
They started on like the.
They have Instagram, they havetick tock a little bit less so,
but right, those are the twolike for me Jeff Nippert,
renaissance periodization ifyou're kind of like early on,
I'd look both of those up veryevidence-based, great
information.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
They're awesome.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
So we told out the bullshit.
We gave you some goodinformation.
What more do you want?
Okay, we're supposed to do here.
They're good in the bad.
We got to start with the bad,because the bad is what hooks
people in.
Again, as we say, did you haveto call out the bullshit to Give
people's attention?
Speaker 3 (37:18):
Oh man.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
Oh well, I know what I want.
What's your favorite food?
Speaker 3 (37:23):
What sushi?
Sushi 1000%, that's a good.
Oh, I love me.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
That's good one yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
Which is very neutral , pretty healthy very versatile.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
What's your favorite Oreo flavor?
We asked that before.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
Orias, but uh, I Would have to say just, I mean
just the regular double stuff.
I thought the chocolate one thechocolate.
I used to eat those as a kidwhen I was like very overweight.
I would eat like a whole boxbag of them by myself.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
It was bad it's, but it's there's so good I can't
blame you.
At least they're so good theyare the best cookie?
Oh, I, actually.
We asked Adam this and I thinkI like to respond, so I'm gonna
ask you this question back tomore serious things than Oreos
and sushi's.
Um, for, like, as you work withpeople, right, so like you
obviously like clients andwhatnot Like what do you what's
(38:19):
a common thing you see amongstthe people who are successful in
their endeavors, like what athing that kind of connects them
together?
I like that question because,you know, when you've worked
with a lot of people, you'veprobably picked up a little
things that have they all havein common.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
That, you know, is the yeah, learning that the all,
or learning how to break awayfrom the all or nothing mindset.
The clients that understandthat all or nothing isn't the
answer, like sustainability isFound within just something you
can hold.
It doesn't have to be perfect,it doesn't mean perfection,
consistency doesn't equalperfection.
(38:53):
And so I've realized that myclients that are get into that
Mindset or, like some of them,they come from an all or nothing
mindset and I have to kind ofhelp them Re-learn that.
You know that's not how we treatlife right, because at the end
of the day, we're training,we're eating for life.
You know we're not here to hopon some crash diet.
Give you results for the sakeof results.
I mean, be like bye just foryou to Whatever gain all the way
(39:17):
back and come back to me, and II always tell people online, on
the phone, as a client,whatever in person, that like I
want you to have the ability towalk away, not needing me
anymore, like autonomy is alwaysmy goal, and that's kind of
counterintuitive to a businessperspective where it's like
we're coaches and we want tokeep our clients, we want
(39:37):
recurring revenue.
But then today I find suchfulfillment and like letting my
clients go and then like see,yeah years down the road, like
their physiques or just whatever, whatever their goals were,
it's just like it.
It seemed unimaginable when theywere coaching with me.
But then, like years later, andthey're thriving in their own
way and it's, it's fantastic.
(39:58):
So I found that, yeah, myclients are the clients are most
successful.
Use me as a resource to itsfull extent and then also break
from the all or nothing mindset.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
On that note.
Why don't you give the peoplewhere to find you and like how
to get more information?
Speaker 3 (40:17):
Okay, cool.
Yeah, so you can find me ontiktok and Instagram.
Those are my two platforms.
Beef cake, that's one word.
Be e, f like beef, like cow,beef cake, be cake underscore
Brina Brina.
Yeah, I'm on Instagram, tiktokand I just released a new single
(40:37):
on my house producer and DJ.
So Um, that's right.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
Yeah, I saw some of your DJ stuff.
Speaker 3 (40:43):
Yeah, yeah, my house producer, and, and and a DJ, so
I just released my new singleI'm a rich man, inspired by the
quote that I live by.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
so well, there you go now.
Everybody can add that to yourgym playlist.
Speaker 3 (40:55):
Yeah, it's actually on my gym playlist.
So, yeah, it's.
Uh, yeah, it's, it's there andI'm gonna be producing more
music.
I'm actually it's funny Istopped to do this podcast
because I was producing music ata coffee shop, so I'm gonna be
really sick, yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
Well, thanks for coming on, appreciate it
everybody.
Go out, find some people youlike, ignore the bullshit and
Listen to music.
Everybody at the three we saythree, two, one.
Don't be your worst.
Three, two, one.
Speaker 1 (41:24):
Don't be a worst good enough.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
Good enough, don't be a worse.
Than good enough.
OK, then I oh, we're on 26.
Even I'm forgetting whatepisode we're on now.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
See, you got to start with that.
Hey everybody, welcome to thepodcast.
Rob just forgot what episodenumber it was.
Not just me, get fucked.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
So we're on episode.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Oh shit.
Twenty six and I know?
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Oh yeah, you know that because I just said it.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
No, that wasn't that, it wasn't that.
So today on the, we have aSpecial guest is going to
introduce her name, because wejust went through three minutes
of trying to figure out whatwe're going to say.
So I'm going to let herintroduce her own name so that
everybody then knows what towhat to say.
Go ahead All right?
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Hey, I'm beefcake brina, otherwise known as
Sabrina, so call me either.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
All right, or we can just call you the entire.
You have to say the entirething, so you can't bring.
Otherwise known as Sabrina Cake.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Brina, otherwise known as Sabrina, otherwise
known as Brina, otherwise knownas.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Beefcake Sabrina Rina Beefcake.
There's something there, we'llfigure it out, it's you got to
say the entire.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Thing.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
OK, ok, sabrina, I'm just going to go with that
because I remember the teenage.
Who else remembers that show?
Speaker 1 (01:10):
I think I'm old, I don't know, but I so my sister's
name is Sabrina and she wasborn on October 31st, so there
were a lot of Sabrina, theteenage, witch jokes and bitch
jokes.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Oh for sure.
Well, sabrina is not known forbeing the teenage witch, though
Sabrina that we have, she's morefor this content.
I mean maybe some Halloweenstuff, sure, but yeah, why don't
you give people like Lula justintroduction of, like, what you
do, what you're about, that sortof thing?
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Yeah, absolutely yeah .
So yeah, I'm essentially youryour favorite quote, unquote no
bullshit online coach on TikTok,and that's kind of where I
primarily reside.
Yeah, I have a BS inkinesiology and I use my skills
of analyzing and breaking downresearch to essentially debunk
misinformation on the Internet,which is very similar to what
(02:03):
you all do with your why wedon't know anything about that.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
What are you talking about?
So wait?
Speaker 1 (02:07):
wait, wait.
What I heard here is thatyou're a no BS coach that has a
bullshit degree in kinesiology,right?
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Funny enough right.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Yeah, like that.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
That is good.
You need that on a shirt orsomething.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
I run a shirt.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
We'll figure it out as as time goes on.
Ok, so we need to know then.
I need to know because weobviously have our Bobby's in
the nutrition world.
Is there a Bobby of the fitnessworld?
Is there someone that's justspewing so much nonsense?
Speaker 3 (02:34):
that people like you have their new video.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
You have to go over it.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
You want me to name names, of course.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Well, that's what we're all about.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
His name is I want what we need here, we need here
yeah.
Just a few that I can think ofoff the top of my head that have
been continuously coming backare V Shred and Brittany Don
Davis Brittany Don, by the wayshe dumped her dog and it got
discovered a few days ago Herold dog seriously.
Yeah, yeah, it was the wholereddit thread on it there's
(03:04):
photo evidence and they the pitbull was my friend and dumped
yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Brittany Don Davis.
You can do a lot of things andpeople will forgive you.
Like you can fuck over humansin like the worst ways and
people like other humans theysuck.
But if you fuck over a dog youwill never live it's over, it's
like.
But this isn't the first timeeither.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
I am she's used animals in the past allegedly
through like YouTube and likedifferent, like horses, dogs,
etc.
So like, not surprised, butlike I don't know how she's
going to come back from this.
I mean, she had a lawsuitagainst her a year or two ago
within the fitness industrywhere she had to pay a
settlement I believe it was sixfigures, don't quote me on that
(03:47):
Essentially for scamming peopleback in 20, like a decade ago.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
A decade ago.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
I know you don't know about that.
You don't know about that.
I got to look into this afterthis.
Oh, you didn't know, I know.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Yeah, it was pretty damn big.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Hundreds of individuals, especially women,
for because on the internet shebecame.
She was a coach and she was anED warrior eating disorder
warrior and she claimed to haveexpertise in Ed's and so
naturally people signed up forher coaching.
She gave them very cookiecutter programs and very low
calorie diets and she screwedover a lot of people.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
And I'm pretty sure she claimed that those cookie
cutter programs were like unique, individual ones.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Yeah, yeah, and they were like people like wait a
second mine's the same as theirs.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
What's going on here?
It's like that's where.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Yeah, and so, yeah, she's got a lot of heat and then
, after she scammed in thefitness industry and knew that
she couldn't clear her namethere, she moved into the
Christian community.
So now she is under the guiseof God and XYZ and just things
just continue to come up oneafter the other, like there were
problems with her being aterrible foster parent and now
(05:01):
she can't do that anymore.
Yeah, it's like it's all overthe internet.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
I mean, I feel like I'm on a reality TV show, Like
you know you're, like you have agirlfriend that's watched Like
how do you watch this stuff?
And then five minutes lateryou're sitting there just kind
of like wait, what are the whowas that about?
What was that who said that?
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Right yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
It's just one after the other with her.
So now it's the.
She dumped her old pit bullbecause, quote, unquote, she
wasn't vibing with it, and thatwas her reason for dumping it.
I feel like you could have.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
I'm a super peaceful Zen person, but I will tell
people that if you want to seeme get pissed, do something to
an animal in front of me.
I will break every fucking bonein your body, yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Yeah, no, for sure it was a, it was pretty harsh, it
was pretty ridiculous.
So yeah, I would say Brittanydawns one of them, and then you
know, v shred, v shreds, kind ofoh god yes.
Yeah, he's Video on V shredthat's popping off again and
it's because he's gainingpopularity.
So people are looking up Vshreds reviews and they're
(06:10):
coming across my video on Tiktok, and so you know there's.
Well, it worked for me.
And I was like no, no, it's notabout what if it worked for you
or not, it's the fact that thisguy's the scammer.
And here's why.
Yeah but that's I.
Apparently he's popping offagain, so I Know, because that
video is my video of V shredsdoing doing a bit more numbers
(06:33):
right now.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
So yeah, I V shred, I get asked.
I get so for anybody who's DM'dme.
I've had several people DM melike I've seen this V shred guy.
What do you think about?
Yeah, very pretty right, anattractive man I will give.
I will give him.
He's a handsome young lad andhe's got a good physique and,
(06:57):
and those are the end of mycompliments.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Those pretty much everything and he doesn't have a
brain in that body.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
I yeah.
So like he has people likeabove him basically pulling the
strings that are that are reallysmart in marketing, so they're
very yeah the way that they theytarget people right who are
more vulnerable to his bullshit.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Yeah, they have an amazing marketing team that
knows to zero in on beginnersand and people that are just
getting in their foot in thedoor and they're the.
Shuffle them off and here'sthem.
Amazing body or program basedon your body type.
He's got some sort of new scamgoing on.
I.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Think he's still using this tomato type scam
because that was what washappening when I was a teenager,
so I almost got sucked into itmyself.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Tell people what the somatic type scam.
Yeah, tell people.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
So there's this theory and it's it's a theory
and theory, meaning that it'snot quite proven where there's
three different types of bodytypes and sometimes there's four
, so endomorph, ectomorph and amesomorph, and there's in that
Well, let's start back in.
Like the 1960s is when this allstarted.
This was a psychology Studythat a psychologist did or, yeah
(08:10):
, psychologists on collegestudents, basically placing them
in three categories, in thethree I just named.
And then somewhere along theway, decades through, the
fitness industry was like oh,let's take this and let's use it
as a prescription for fitnessand exercise and diet
interventions.
And, although it has like alittle bit of truth to it, it's
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the the point, or what unprovesor disproves the theory is the
fact that we aren't one body allthe time and we see that with
Bodybuilders as a good example,where they're in one stage of
their bodybuilding career andtheir career and they're
considered an acto more.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
But then when?
What?
Just describe the three bodiesof mesomorph and endo endo more
so.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Like the acto is someone who's like apparently
tall, lanky, lean Me.
Metabolism as a morph issomewhere in the middle, and an
endomorph is the exact opposite.
They're always short and stockyand can't lose weight and this
and that must be.
And the thing is it's like yes,we have some science around it,
(09:19):
but like it's not, again, it'snot, it's not proven, because we
have people breaking thoseparameters all the time.
You know, we could take me asan example where trigger warning
I was diagnosed with anorexiaand binge eating disorder
Several years ago, when I was ateenager, I would be considered
an acto more, but now I wouldmaybe be considered an Mesomorph
, and when I was chubby, beforeyou know, getting into my eating
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disorders, I would beconsidered an endo more.
So the fact that, like you, canbreak these categories Proves
the whole theory incorrect, andso it's not a prescription for
exercise.
We truly don't fall into one ofthree categories and that's the
(10:02):
problem.
But it's easily believablebecause Correlation right.
I think it's a little bit morecomplicated.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
I think it's because we like to be, we like to have
these little categories and welike to be told we're kind of
different than other people.
So if I go to someone and say,hey, the reason you can't lose
weight is everyone else isputting you into this broad
category, when instead I knowit's because you are in this
Different, specific category andyou need to work out based off
your category.
(10:29):
Which, by the way, I find itvery strange because it's like,
even if you are in thesedifferent categories, is the
training really going to be thatdifferent like?
Speaker 3 (10:35):
you're still gonna be like.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Right, so even further.
So yeah, it's just levels ofbullshit.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
It goes all the way down, yeah and that's an even
more important part is that oncethey put you in this special
category, they have this magicformula that you need to follow.
That will get your results and,of course, we love that magic
formula.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Yeah, and that's cookie cutter at the other day.
That's what it is.
It's cookie cutter.
It's like, oh, you're anendomorph.
You get the endomorph program,one, truly two endomorphs I'm
just gonna use that like aren'tthe same, like to still two
different types of lifestyles,two different things going on to
, like different types of timecommitments or eating, eating
styles or whatever.
(11:17):
So you know it's, it's the factthat we're still case-by-case
basis is After, after thosecategories, and that's what
disproves the theory, especiallysince we don't really have much
science on it in fitness at allor from much of a nutritional
and exercise standpoint.
It's literally all inpsychology.
So the fact that people pulledlike, look these studies from
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psychology and they're like,yeah, we're just gonna shove it
into fitness and nutrition isfunny Devil's advocate if you're
just an average person.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
I'm just looking around.
I notice a lot of people hey,that person's really tall and
skinny, this person's short andstocky, like you see these
things a lot.
So like when it's when I think,just when you see it, and then
people are like oh, this is whythese people are like that.
I don't know, we're alwayslooking for reasons.
We want to.
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Yeah, so it's tough.
Yeah yeah, it's stereotyping isessentially what it is.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
So, yeah, I think the important takeaway from this is
that somatotypes came from somecreepy psychologists that just
wanted to photograph nudecollege boys.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
That's exactly what it was, and that's still better
than leaving your dog by theside of the road.
Let me just throw that outthere.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Yeah, absolutely, I agree with that.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Still, I will still have a drink with that person
before the dog lever.
That's all I'm saying.
But can I just say about Vshred?
I my I do like the somatotypes,but my favorite is when he has,
like Harvard, found a new studythat unlocked the fat gene, or
(12:49):
in, like you know we have that.
It's so like if you haven'tseen any V shred commercials.
They are like an SNL skit.
They really are like a Saturdaynight live.
Someone can try to come up withbullshit for the fitness
industry, but they are trying toactually sell this nonsense.
Yeah, it's like we found thisloophole.
Oh, yeah, it's this fat lossloophole Discovered by Harvard
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that we have engineered into asupplement that you can buy.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Yeah, he's also gotten called out for blatantly
copying a copy, pasting word forword famous youtubers content
as well, like biomechanicalContent the video of him doing
the the inverse chest fly.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Yes, that was amazing .
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Yeah, we're, you have it.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
But obviously V shred took that down, but I think you
can still find it Clips of itit's so good.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
So basically, you hold your hand out in front of
you straight, like a straightarm, and then you turn your
chest in towards your arm, soyou're not moving your arm at
all.
You just turn your body, whichdoes literally nothing.
Basically, you're just holdingyour arm.
That's about the post workYou're.
You're getting some front deltsby just holding your arm in
front of you.
That's.
It's so good.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Oh man.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Oh man, that's V shred for anybody listening.
I would just you know, ignore,ignore, ignore.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
V shred has to say you try to bring it on,
blacklist them immediately.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
OK, so we've called out our names.
We've called out our names.
So I mean, ok, I think we'vecalled out a little bit on the
bullshit, but like, what wouldyou give for people?
What would you tell people who,because we listen to, we have a
lot of listeners who are, likeyou know, beginning out,
beginning their fitness journey,their health journey Like, what
would tips would you give tothem, what to look out for?
What would you just suggest forsomeone that's just like I want
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to get healthier?
Speaker 3 (14:47):
Right, right, absolutely so.
If they're on social media,cleaning up your, what I call
the social, your diet, yoursocial media diet, is super
important.
So and it's funny because I wasactually just on a podcast
recently where I talked aboutthis exact thing too that,
although credentials aren't endall be all, it is a green flag
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If someone has credentials likea degree or a certification, or
two or multiple, because that'sat least a foundational that
they they, you know have goneout and achieved.
It's an integrity thing at theend of the day.
Aside from that, though, thatdoesn't always mean everything,
so there are some people that Iknow with PhDs who don't know
(15:28):
jack shit, jules Seaman.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
I can name a couple.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Yeah, we've talked about it.
We're not going to get intoJules.
It's low hanging fruit and Iwant to, I want to.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
So anyway.
So, yeah, not end all be all,but definitely a green flag, I
will say people who speak withnuance that is important,
especially in the evidence basedcommunity People who, when they
say bold claims that seem novelto beginners, they have, they
can back it up, they canactually back the claim up.
Nothing grinds my gears more.
(16:04):
When I see someone say researchsays X Y Z, I'm like does it?
Does research say that, or didyou find this word for word off
a blog on Google?
Because I could take this wordfor word, paste it into the
search bar and find exactlywhere you got it from.
So, yeah, that's definitelysomething that to look out for.
(16:25):
And then, I guess, being awareof clickbait.
Right, clickbait exists in thesense that we all need to market
ourselves as creators.
Right, we all want to havehooks, but like, for example,
spot reduction, clickbaits,clickbait, like that's an easy
one.
You know.
Exercises to get rid of back fator whatever fat or inner thigh
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fat, or tone this or tone that,like that yeah that's a very
easy clickbait title that youknow you could tell if someone's
bullshitting at the end of theday.
And it's funny because a lot ofthese are a lot of those types
of videos I've seen.
Some have come from creditedindividuals, but they are just
playing the social media gameand they're like, oh, I'm going
(17:07):
to mislead anyway because it'sgoing to get used in engagement.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
I've seen a couple of people like that yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Yeah so it's unfortunate.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Yeah, like the spot.
The spot reduction is a bigthing because we all have the
love handles, the lower belly.
That's just like there's alittle bit there that you were
like, oh, I just want to get ridof this.
I've had people DM me and belike, there's just this little
bit I want to get rid of.
How do I target that?
And I was like, listen, if Iwant to make money, I just sell
you some, some plan and then youknow that's nothing, because at
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the end of the day, you reallycan't do that outside of your
tincture essentially and let metell you for anybody listening
like, losing.
you know, like if you have, likeif you have a large amount of
excess body fat, you can lose alot of it, not easily, but more
easily, because once you get tothe end, that last little bit is
always going to be the hardest.
It's like an exponentialdifficulty, because at the end
(18:01):
you're like, oh, it should bejust as easy to lose this last
little bit of weight as it wasthe first 90% of it.
It's so much harder your bodyis going to fight to keep on to
that.
You're going to be hungry,you're going to be tired.
You know, like, so it's.
You have to really assess is it?
How much, is it worth it?
How much stress am I going toput on myself to lose this last
little bit?
Speaker 3 (18:19):
So that's just right, it's just like you know you're
going to be able to really get alittle bit of stress on it.
Yeah, that, and influencershave really just kind of made up
some terms to like, really like, get at you for something like
it.
On the women's side of thingslike hip dips, like that's not a
thing Like it's your firstcancer depression, by the way,
like biomechanically speaking,anatomically speaking, but I
(18:41):
mean it's like.
It's a term that like wascreated somewhere years ago.
That's being like whateverworkouts, exercises, a trainer,
a program, and it's just likepreying on people's insecurities
, Like that's not a thing untilwe made it a thing.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Like, why do?
Speaker 3 (18:58):
we care so much about our hip dips or like love
handles, like that's notactually a thing, it's a made up
term, like there's no suchthing as a love handle, it's
whatever fives deposit there.
We just called it that andwe've decided to use that term
as a way to prey on people'sinsecurities not us, but I mean
people who again do that, whojust want to make money.
(19:18):
It's you know these buzzwordsExactly.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
That's what I was just going to get at.
You have these like littlethings that when you see it,
it's just the kind of clickbaity titles, but they really,
they work really well.
It is kind of, isn't it kind of, sad that nutrition, fitness,
it doesn't really matter.
The way you get a following iseither by basically saying
bullshit or calling out bullshit.
I feel like those are the twopaths you can get, because no
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one wants to hear like, okay, sohere's the science based
evidence.
No, they don't care.
They want either the nonsenseor calling out the nonsense.
Those are the two ways, yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
Right, right, exactly .
Yeah, it's funny.
A lot of and it's when I lookat the even just TikTok as a
whole a lot of the bullshit,because misinformation
scientifically spreads six timesfaster than truth.
I'd have to find the PMID forit because it's an interesting
study, by the way, becausethat's the case, a lot of these
people who are bullshitting aregoing to typically have larger
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followings because of that,because it's so novel of
information, so it is hard tokind of bust your ass and put
out the answer.
That's not pretty becausenobody wants to hear it versus
the opposite.
So at the end of the day, we asevidence based coaches and
individuals, have to kind ofstay in our bubble and not worry
(20:35):
about kind of what anyone elseis doing in that aspect or like
how many followers someone has.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Yeah, that's a big one.
The number of followers someonehas tells you fucking nothing
about how good their informationis Correct.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
That's fucking nonsense.
Yeah, river King has like sixmillion followers.
Yeah, let's listen to that guy.
Okay, yeah, and oh, fuck, I've.
Now I'm on River King brain andI can't fucking eating brain.
God damn it.
What the fuck?
I don't remember what I wasgoing to say.
Rob, say something.
My brain.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
I mean, I was just going to say that this is we
call this brandolini's law,which is it takes exponentially
more energy to debunk bullshiton the internet than to create
it.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Yeah, that's why I've been taking breaks from the
internet lately.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Oh, yeah, yeah.
You especially see that withthe creators that are debunking
this stuff and trying to put outthe good content is they will
often get stressed, depressedand need to take breaks.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Because it is so hard on us.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
But you know what my break was good.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
I just thought of the thing I was thinking of.
It's so because nutrition orfitness, it doesn't really
matter.
This is how it's so frustrating, because if you're going to
call out bullshit, you have tothen back it up with a lot of
evidence, right?
But the people saying thebullshit all they really have to
say and I've seen this over andover, at least in the nutrition
space is you're just keeping upthe status quo and the status
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quo doesn't work.
If the status quo worked, thenpeople would be healthier.
Because people aren't healthier.
It's clearly not working andit's not right.
That's really all they have tosay.
That is enough for a largeenough percentage of people to
then go.
Oh yeah, that makes sense.
I shouldn't go with theevidence-based person, I should
go with the person saying thesewild things because it's
(22:29):
different, right?
That's kind of what I've seen alot of.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
Yeah.
Yeah, I feel like there'salways three main things that we
continue debunking, or threereasons why something's being
debunked.
Either A they're pulling upanimal studies and they're
playing that game and thinkingthat animal studies translate to
human studies.
They're playing the correlationequals causation game, which we
know.
Correlation doesn't equalcausation game or causation.
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That's not the case.
Or they're oh my God, I forgotthe third one.
There's a third one oh, itworked for me game they're
playing it.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Oh, it worked for me.
Oh, the anecdote yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Yeah, anecdotes over everything.
Speaker 2 (23:10):
Yeah, it really does, man Anecdotes are.
We talk about this so much, butwe just kind of have to keep
doing it because they are sounbelievably powerful for a V
shred to go.
Look at all these people I'vehelped and anytime I call
someone out for their bullshit Ialways get people in the
comments saying but they'vehelped people.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
It works for them.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
It works for them.
How does them helping othersnegate the terrible information
they're giving?
And for them it just does, Iguess.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
And and.
Yeah, when you give somebodyterrible information, you might
see results, not necessarily asa result of the information that
they were given, but it couldbe something that they were
doing entirely differently.
Yeah, it's fabricated andthey're going to.
Yeah, they're going to continueto believe that that wrong
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information is correct andthey're going to make bad
decisions because of that downthe line.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Right Example I wear a waste trainer during my
workouts and I start working outfour times a week.
Going from zero, I can claimall day that the waste trainer
was the reason my waist gotslimmer, but I started actually.
I started doing workouts fourtimes a week and I was burning
more calories.
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
And my waist got slimmer.
Are those coming back in Wastetrainers?
Speaker 3 (24:30):
They've always been around.
I'm Latina, so I'm like in theLatin community it's always a
big thing.
It's always been a big thing.
So they I mean it does and itdoesn't it's like one of those
things that are always there.
It's like an evergreen bullshittrend, like yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Okay, okay, okay, give us Brina's biggest bullshit
and I'm going to put like a bigreader echo on that.
So it's like, are you justgoing to be like open category
on it, like any?
Speaker 2 (24:58):
person or anything Like are like in the just
everything.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Open category Biggest bullshit.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Biggest.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Not the little bullshit, not the medium
bullshit.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
The biggest bullshit.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
No medium bullshit right here, oh God.
I'm trying to think of thethings that keep you awake at
night and you get frustrated byit, right?
Speaker 1 (25:17):
We're putting you on the spot.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
I'm trying to think, because there's so many things
that I've called out, it's noteven a big deal.
Oh gosh, am I going to bringthis one up again?
Yeah, screw it, whatever.
Okay, one of the one of thebiggest bullshit that almost I
think it, almost it could havepotentially started.
No, it did start a lawsuit andyou had a few people on your
(25:40):
podcast, I believe the other day.
That may or may not have talkedabout this, but Ryan Reed,
actually that's probably oh God,Ryan the biggest bullshit that
I have a come.
Ryan Reed is it was a collectivecall out by me yeah right Other
fit Adam Beth, franco, matt,her yeah, her partner, matt
(26:04):
Olivia Pellis, your set fitnessand so he fit.
And I think Ben Carpeter waspart of it at one point.
I think it was like a lot ofpeople came out or like, okay,
we're going to call Ryan Reedout again.
And Ryan Reed is essentially aLiam, if you don't know a glute
expert who has a female onlyclients and he's very handsy and
(26:29):
he was called out originallyback in 2020 by Ben English and
I for being handsy and then itkind of died.
It kind of died out and thenthat large group that I just
mentioned, we all came back andcollectively, in February of
2021, decided to all go ham andcall him out because he posted
(26:52):
his heart on if you know what Imean on social, his fitness
social media, on TikTok, in 48,in a span of 48 hours, multiple
times because he wasn't gettingviews.
And so I took that.
I was like um, isn't the guy,this the guy that was handsy
with clients in the group chatof all these coaches?
And we're like yeah, and so wedug kind of further into it and
(27:15):
we're like you know what this isworth a call out again because
he's harassed, and like we havelike evidence, like screenshot
it like it was.
This was like going to go onthe news like articles, like
there was going to be a lawsuit.
I don't know what has happenedto it.
It got into the hands of higherups.
I don't know what's going onwith it, but we have evidence
(27:36):
against it.
We were all ready to likeliterally go to court for this
and yeah, so we posted about itand it blew up and he fleed from
Scottsdale, Arizona allegedlyto California and is apparently
doing the same thing now.
He like hasn't stopped and hehasn't been really caught.
But I don't.
(27:57):
We really tried to get thisinto the hands of police and
like higher, like authority andit did at one point, but yeah,
we don't.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
It just kind of dissipated, which is sad, and
we've had so many women comeforward about about this, like
we all have evidence andscreenshots and audio files and
like all of it like just I wasso happy when that whole thing
came up because when I wasgetting started on TikTok, the
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very first person, the veryfirst big person that like tried
to attack me, was Ryan Reed,and he attacked me because I had
slight, slight little dorses ofthe spine and so my spine
wasn't flat when I was doing hipthrusts and I was it always
comes for yeah, and so I he,like you know did this big thing
(28:49):
.
Oh, you're doing it wrong, blah, blah, blah.
I came back to him and like,look, you can't look at the
spine.
Your spine isn't what's moving,the moving joint.
You're looking at the pelvis inrelation to your, your thighs,
and just because somebody hasslight lordosis doesn't mean
that they shouldn't be showinghow an exercise is done.
(29:12):
Yeah, and he kept, he keptragging on that.
He kept being like no, you'renot allowed to train people
because you have a little bit ofa different body than other
people do.
And like I just kept being likeyou know, we do not gatekeep
fitness based on people's bodiesand stuff.
And his followers wouldactually come over to my page to
(29:32):
like they would become beingready to put up a fight and
stuff, and they'd see my contentand they'd be like, okay, our
guy's an asshole and this guy'sactually really nice.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
Yeah, yeah, that's kind of how it always started,
cause he did the same to atrainer named Bren.
She she's kind of come offTikTok since then, but he did
the same thing to a trainernamed Bren and so she had to
come back with her own video.
That was evidence to base andthat that also catapulted into
us finding those sexuallyexplicit videos Somewhat
(30:06):
sexually explicit videos andthen calling them out.
So it's so funny that you saythat, because literally the
exact thing was done to Bren.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Yeah, I'm not, I don't know a whole lot of that
about this, but I will say likein those sorts of situations
they generally, like you said,they move and they do the same
thing, which really sucks, Causethey don't stop unless they
were forced to stop Right, likeit just.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
And there's too many of those people out there too,
like male trainers withexplicitly female client base
that are glute experts, which isnot a complete not, like always
, a hundred percent a completered flag.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
However, most of the time it is, and most of the time
, if they're getting reallyhands you with you, then yes,
that's a huge red flag rightthere, right.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
Of course.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Of course, yeah, and social media isn't like it's
kind of a double-edged swordbecause if you look, you know
before we had social media youcould just move and it was
easier.
You know people wouldn't knowabout you.
But also with social media youcan reach a lot of people, so
you'll have people calling outbut there's just so, there's
just this endless pool of morepeople that you can target.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
So it's kind of yeah, unfortunately, the last I
checked on Ryan cause I did lookto see if, like, anything had
happened with that and like hewas just back on TikTok doing
the thing again, yep.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
And that's the unfortunate part.
It's just, it's like a back tonormal and, like you know, he
hasn't been called out just once.
It's been multiple times andthe sad part is it gains like
traction.
And then it's like oh my God,we're finally getting somewhere
where this like this you know,we can finally do something
about this to stop this, so hedoesn't harm other people and
then it's like again itdissipates.
(31:44):
And then we're like shoot, wethought we had it this time,
cause.
Yeah.
So like hopefully people canlook him up and are now more
aware of him, but like we can'tstop.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Well, okay, so we, we get a lot of the bullshit
people that you need to stayaway from.
I feel like before we end, weshould definitely give at least
a few good channels to promotesome good books.
I agree, let's switch gears,Like we can actually say like,
hey, check these people out.
Cause the person I kind of gotinterested when I got into
fitness was Jeff Nippard.
If you haven't know, he'smostly on YouTube.
It's great, yeah.
(32:16):
Yeah, you can see find him onother things, but very like,
he's great.
If you're starting out, Justlook up Jeff Nippard.
He breaks down things in a veryeasily digestible way, I would
say, and gives you like justclear.
Oh okay, here's the things youcan do if you're starting out.
If you have two days, do thisfour days, like that sort of
stuff, and so he's probably myfavorite.
If you're just beginning yourjourney, look up Jeff Nippard.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
Sure, sure for sure, yeah, no, some great people, I
would say.
When I first started my ownjourney on TikTok, the first few
people I found were Beth,farakko and Matt, and then there
was what you call it OliviaPellish, your Set Fitness.
She's on there too.
I love her.
There's also a new girl I wantto shout out.
(33:00):
She's a dietitian and she's aperson of color, which is very
it's not common in the dietitianrealm.
So women and women of color andI'm a woman of color, so it's
nice to see other women in colorbut she's a different ethnicity
than I am, but she's her nameShaila.
(33:22):
Shaila health was Shaila, ohwe've had her on here.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
We've had her on the podcast.
Shaila's a friend, yeah good, Ilove her.
I was gonna say something.
I was like well, so we've hadShaila on who.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
But I was like you might be saying the same person
because you're in the middle ofsomething.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
Yeah, and Shaila's one of them.
Yeah, yeah, also my businesspartner, megan Waits, w-a-i-t-s.
She's also evidence-based, herand I, we're always doing stuff
together.
Her husband, mark Dallas Waits,is a chef, so he's on TikTok
too, and he's currently blowingup for his recipes and whatnot.
(33:56):
He's also into fitness, sothat's fun.
But yeah, no, those are a fewgood people that I can really
name off the top of my head thatI always follow Coach Frizzle
too.
She's awesome, what's?
Speaker 2 (34:09):
your take on Athelenex over there, sabrina?
I'm kinda curious because Ijust wanna talk about it because
he's one of the biggest, ismaybe the one of the biggest, at
least yeah, yeah he says so.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
You see, for me it's, he's a back-and-forth, because
there's some things that he saysthat are very evident space,
and it's great.
But then he'll like jump thatthreshold, and then you'll say
something that's bullshit.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
I'm like, yeah, I'm like, yeah, I think that's for
you to get that big, you kind ofhave to blur the lines a little
bit.
I don't know.
Yeah, it's, it's a tough.
I've always had a tough, like Ilike a lot of what you're
saying, but also there's alittle bit.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
So, yeah, if you see athlete next out there yeah it's
good, some of it's not as good,yeah like I mean, he was big
and back when YouTube was huge,several years ago, you know, and
he's still around and he'spivoting.
He's still growing as aplatform, I believe.
But yeah, I don't know.
It's just like for me it's hardto listen to someone's content
(35:13):
or watch their content whenthey're not like steady, like
it's okay to change.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
Yeah, not consistent.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
But it's like it's a very like.
One day it's like greatevidence-based content, and then
another day it's like bullshit,and then it's like he keeps
going back and forth and I waslike, yeah, I don't know if I
can keep giving you the benefitof the doubt like I think.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
I think for me two of the main ones when I was
getting started were pure bothit and Pure and Obese to beast.
Yes, I know, and they're yeahyeah, john gloves, yeah, they've
got they.
It's not so much that they putout like scientific content or
(35:53):
anything, but they put out likenice content, it's Friendly,
it's, it makes you like enjoywhat they're, what you're
getting into and stuff.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
Yeah, yeah, no, absolutely I yeah a lot.
Even that content's great fromlike watching all the scientific
stuff like Lane Norton.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
I love Lane Norton.
No, you know, yeah, of course.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
Yeah, like one of my favorites that and Brad shown
field daddy of kinesiology.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
So I have to say like after I got into Jeff Nippert
and kind of got the basics, Ihopped over to Renaissance
periodization, which, if youhaven't seen, this is Dr Mike is
retell is retail.
I don't know, you've run sincethe spring of last year.
But yeah, he does is a littlebit more advanced.
So, like, I kind of likestarted Jeff Nippert and then
hopped over to Renaissanceperiodization and they go a
little bit further in depth.
(36:42):
If you, if you kind of want toknow, like actually how to you
know design a program, that sortof stuff, you can go to them on
YouTube.
They started on like the.
They have Instagram, they havetick tock a little bit less so,
but right, those are the twolike for me Jeff Nippert,
renaissance periodization ifyou're kind of like early on,
I'd look both of those up veryevidence-based, great
information.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
They're awesome.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
So we told out the bullshit.
We gave you some goodinformation.
What more do you want?
Okay, we're supposed to do here.
They're good in the bad.
We got to start with the bad,because the bad is what hooks
people in.
Again, as we say, did you haveto call out the bullshit to Give
people's attention?
Speaker 3 (37:18):
Oh man.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
Oh well, I know what I want.
What's your favorite food?
Speaker 3 (37:23):
What sushi?
Sushi 1000%, that's a good.
Oh, I love me.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
That's good one yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
Which is very neutral , pretty healthy very versatile.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
What's your favorite Oreo flavor?
We asked that before.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
Orias, but uh, I Would have to say just, I mean
just the regular double stuff.
I thought the chocolate one thechocolate.
I used to eat those as a kidwhen I was like very overweight.
I would eat like a whole boxbag of them by myself.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
It was bad it's, but it's there's so good I can't
blame you.
At least they're so good theyare the best cookie?
Oh, I, actually.
We asked Adam this and I thinkI like to respond, so I'm gonna
ask you this question back tomore serious things than Oreos
and sushi's.
Um, for, like, as you work withpeople, right, so like you
obviously like clients andwhatnot Like what do you what's
(38:19):
a common thing you see amongstthe people who are successful in
their endeavors, like what athing that kind of connects them
together?
I like that question because,you know, when you've worked
with a lot of people, you'veprobably picked up a little
things that have they all havein common.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
That, you know, is the yeah, learning that the all,
or learning how to break awayfrom the all or nothing mindset.
The clients that understandthat all or nothing isn't the
answer, like sustainability isFound within just something you
can hold.
It doesn't have to be perfect,it doesn't mean perfection,
consistency doesn't equalperfection.
(38:53):
And so I've realized that myclients that are get into that
Mindset or, like some of them,they come from an all or nothing
mindset and I have to kind ofhelp them Re-learn that.
You know that's not how we treatlife right, because at the end
of the day, we're training,we're eating for life.
You know we're not here to hopon some crash diet.
Give you results for the sakeof results.
I mean, be like bye just foryou to Whatever gain all the way
(39:17):
back and come back to me, and II always tell people online, on
the phone, as a client,whatever in person, that like I
want you to have the ability towalk away, not needing me
anymore, like autonomy is alwaysmy goal, and that's kind of
counterintuitive to a businessperspective where it's like
we're coaches and we want tokeep our clients, we want
(39:37):
recurring revenue.
But then today I find suchfulfillment and like letting my
clients go and then like see,yeah years down the road, like
their physiques or just whatever, whatever their goals were,
it's just like it.
It seemed unimaginable when theywere coaching with me.
But then, like years later, andthey're thriving in their own
way and it's, it's fantastic.
(39:58):
So I found that, yeah, myclients are the clients are most
successful.
Use me as a resource to itsfull extent and then also break
from the all or nothing mindset.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
On that note.
Why don't you give the peoplewhere to find you and like how
to get more information?
Speaker 3 (40:17):
Okay, cool.
Yeah, so you can find me ontiktok and Instagram.
Those are my two platforms.
Beef cake, that's one word.
Be e, f like beef, like cow,beef cake, be cake underscore
Brina Brina.
Yeah, I'm on Instagram, tiktokand I just released a new single
(40:37):
on my house producer and DJ.
So Um, that's right.
Speaker 1 (40:40):
Yeah, I saw some of your DJ stuff.
Speaker 3 (40:43):
Yeah, yeah, my house producer, and, and and a DJ, so
I just released my new singleI'm a rich man, inspired by the
quote that I live by.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
so well, there you go now.
Everybody can add that to yourgym playlist.
Speaker 3 (40:55):
Yeah, it's actually on my gym playlist.
So, yeah, it's.
Uh, yeah, it's, it's there andI'm gonna be producing more
music.
I'm actually it's funny Istopped to do this podcast
because I was producing music ata coffee shop, so I'm gonna be
really sick, yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
Well, thanks for coming on, appreciate it
everybody.
Go out, find some people youlike, ignore the bullshit and
Listen to music.
Everybody at the three we saythree, two, one.
Don't be your worst.
Three, two, one.
Speaker 1 (41:24):
Don't be a worst good enough.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
Good enough, don't be a worse.
Than good enough.
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