April 11, 2024 • 53 mins
Ready to challenge the status quo on carbs and crush gym intimidation? Our latest chat with the delightful and insightful Nikkiey will leave you both informed and entertained. As she opens up about her fitness journey and the life-changing power of strength training, you'll find yourself nodding along to her relatable stories and chuckling at our mutual disdain for diet myths. From the empowering transformation Nikkiey underwent following a pivotal breakup to the raw honesty about the grueling demands of professional bodybuilding, this episode is a treasure trove for anyone looking to redefine their relationship with fitness.
Let's flip the script on what it means to be strong. Join us as we confront the bogeyman of carbohydrates and dissect the misplaced fears surrounding women and weightlifting. Whether you're a beginner looking to pick up your first set of dumbbells or a seasoned lifter seeking solidarity, Nikkiey's personal anecdotes, coupled with our myth-busting banter, will leave you inspired and ready to embrace the weights. Plus, we don't just talk the talk—we're walking you through overcoming those first-time gym jitters and the underestimated superpower of consistency.
As we wrap up this heart-to-heart, we take a playful jab at the fitness industry's less savory practices and the allure of 'reverse transformations.' With a blend of humor and hard truths, we navigate the murky waters of scams, genetics, and the ethics of marketing within the fitness realm. And if that's not enough, we tie in the surprising parallels between fitness and gaming, advocate for strength training's role in women's health, and even learn a little something from the wrestling world. So, toss on your headphones, and let's hit play on an episode that's more refreshing than a post-workout protein shake!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to episode 29 of In Moderation Valve.
We're getting up there.
We're almost at 30,.
Liam, you're going to have tochange your numbering system.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
I don't.
I've never even said what itwas anyway.
I've always just said a randomnumber.
It's going to continue to be arandom number until always.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Until you finally get it right.
No, I'm never going to get itright.
And then hell freezes over.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
It's just going to get progressively more difficult
to remember Most people justgoing to get progressively more
difficult to remember mostpeople get up to the hundreds
before they forget.
And then I'm in like episodefour.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
So anyway, go ahead.
Uh, so this week's guest iskind of interesting because you
know full disclosure me and liamlike our full disclosures there
.
Um, her pr agent reached out tous and we get pr agents
emailing us every so often and Igo through and I vet their
channels and whatever.
By the way, liam, why don't wehave a fancy schmancy PR agent
(00:51):
Money?
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Money is the answer.
Any PR agents?
Speaker 1 (00:56):
out there want to work for Banana Laffy Taffy.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Absolutely free.
Then come on board.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
So a PR agent reached out to us and I checked out her
channel and I was like you knowwhat this is.
This is pretty good, let'sbring her on.
It's nice to have somebodyoutside of our usual circle, get
some new uh new blood in here.
But, um, her name is nikki andit was very important that we
bring her on because, see, liamand I, we have this audience
(01:26):
that we just don't know anythingabout.
Um, we are a part of a certaindemographic and we can't speak
on that, and so, nikki, tell uswhat it's like to not have
facial hair.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
I was going with, like I was like are we going to
shorter?
Are we going with like I don'tknow, like long well, you have
long hair.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
I don't know, I don't know, I guess yeah I mean
technically, I have facial hair,I have eyebrows, right, so oh,
what defines facial hair?
Speaker 2 (01:56):
like people say, I don't have facial hair either.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
I have a soul patch, which is obviously the best
facial hair duh I was watchingyour content, liam, I was like
damn, that thing is prominent,that is out there.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Listen, if I could dye it, I would too.
I'd make it like red orsomething.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
You can dye it.
That would be hilarious.
One day I will.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
One day I will I don't know when I'll do it
sometime.
That's the point, okay.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
You dye yours, I'll die mine.
You got a lot more work.
Okay, Everybody listening toPatreon.
You get us to episode 100 orsomething, and we'll do this.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Yeah, pay us, so we can then pay a PR person.
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Okay, okay, nikki, tell us all about yourself,
because we absolutely knownothing about you.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
I lift weights, I pick them up and I put them down
excellent okay podcast over.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Can I just say that was planet.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Fitness commercials were the best those are the best
like I pick things up.
I might put them down like itwas so good and this is our
stretching room, just shovesthem out the door.
Those I mean a 10 out of 10.
For those I give 100%.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Anyway, yep, I eat a lot of food.
I love macronutrients becauseit's backed by science.
I lift weights, I strengthtrain and I believe in
empowering tons and tons ofwomen worldwide to do the same
thing, because I think thatdoing those things helps to make
them more healthier, strongerand more confident in themselves
.
So it's a little bit about me.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
That's awesome, and empowering women is kind of why
I really wanted to bring you onhere, because we do have a
demographic that Liam and Iwe're not part of, and the
majority of our listeners areactually women.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Is that true?
That's crazy considering.
I didn't know what a woman wastill I was 10 years old.
It's weird.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Well, it's interesting.
It's awesome, though I mean,you guys are hilarious so far.
I'm just meeting you guys inthe last 15 minutes I had no
idea what I was walking into,but you guys are a vibe.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
That's the way we like things.
Is, you have no idea,completely surprised?
Speaker 1 (04:03):
I don't even know where to go from there.
Let's start with how did youpersonally get into lifting?
Speaker 3 (04:11):
How did I personally get into lifting?
I mean, there's a saying thatbreakups make body odors.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Oh yeah, Me too.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Yeah, totally.
So I was engaged about 10 yearsago and called off that
engagement and best thing I everdid and decided to do things
for myself and think for myselfand act for myself and started
lifting.
And there we got into the worldof bodybuilding.
I competed three times.
(04:42):
I went pro in my first show butit was like a very small
federation.
And then I went pro in mysecond show and it was a bigger
federation called the OCB.
So I'm all natural I've had tobe polygraphed.
I had to pee in a cup after Iwon.
I don't take steroids.
Many people do.
Many people blast me on socialmedia saying that I do.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Oh, of course.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Yeah, the trolls out there, the keyboard usually the
faceless ones.
Yeah, Faceless ones are the oneswhere you click into their
Instagram profiles and, uh, it'slike they're a picture of them
from I don't know.
It's weird stuff.
Anyway.
So got, uh, competed, went tothe pro status and then beat,
went and competed with the prosin the Yorton Cup for the OCB
(05:28):
and then won that, and then Iwas like you know what I'm
deucing out?
It was an extreme lifestylethat I just couldn't get down
with.
Yeah, and let me say even forsomeone like myself.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
I enjoyed the sport of body sport, the sport of
bodybuilding.
It's weird, man.
It's a strange space wherethey're like hey, you know how
like we need body fat, let's getrid of as much as we physically
possibly can while stilltechnically being alive.
Like we would die 100 if westayed there.
But like let's dip into thatfor like a day and it's and, and
(06:00):
let's get oiled up and get onstage again.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
I like bodybuilding don't get me wrong.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
I enjoy it, but it's like, hey, why don't you put on
as much fake bronzer as ever hasbeen put on before 1960?
On all people on me just rightnow, and let's see how this goes
.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Totally, say no more and then be judged on your body
for five minutes.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Yeah, people will stare at me as closely as
possible and judge every aspectof my body.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Where do I sign up?
It's pretty mentally, honestlylike it's so weird.
Yeah, it is.
It's an interesting sport.
I will say that I learned a lotof discipline from it.
However, the whole thing ofwhat you just explained is not
worth it.
You're doing it for literallysix, seven months and then all
(06:48):
of a sudden, 24 hours.
Basically your hard work goesout the door Because as soon as
you're done competing, you wantto eat all the things, because
you just restricted yourself forso long and you basically
gained back like 15 pounds.
I gained back 25 pounds in onemonth after my competition.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Wow, what did you go to?
What did you go to after?
Your body like 15 pounds.
I gained back 25 pounds in onemonth after my competition.
So, yeah, what was your?
What did you go to?
What did you go to after?
You're like, I'm going todomino's and every cinnastick in
that place is going down thehatch.
Those were my jams cinnasticksyour mind was shake shack yeah,
that's the fries.
Oh, I'm you.
Fries are one of the bestthings on this planet.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Heck yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
I don't know.
I'm picturing Liam just loadingup like a Pringles can with
Oreos and just shooting themdown Oreos.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
I feel like I could.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
There's something about like salty snacks that you
can go overboard easier.
For me, right Like the sweetstuff.
That's true, eventually, thesweet is like okay, I'm over the
sweet thing.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
But like salty fries.
But, liam, you get addicted tosugar.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Come on, I know the addicted to sugar thing.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
You can't be tired of sugar.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
I would love someone to All in moderation right.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
If someone was actually addicted to sugar,
could you imagine?
You go to the grocery store,you walk down there oh, let me
pick up and there's just like aguy with a spoon his mouth like
I can't stop.
Please someone help me.
I have never seen that and Idon't think I ever will, but
somehow we're all completelyaddicted to sugar because of a
study in rats like a decade agoor something.
(08:14):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Yeah, type of correlation to like matching
cocaine or the effects ofcocaine on the brain or
something like that yeah, it'salways.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
I'm gonna tell you like, when it comes to like
drugs and like in rats and stufflike that, it's, it's crazy.
They're like oh, they likeheroin, they like sugar more
than heroin.
It's like they're locking thesepeople like these not people,
these are these rats into likethere's nothing with them.
They have no rat friends.
There's no rat buddies, there'snothing with them, and they're
just bored.
They'll just like eat whateveryou put in front of them.
So, yeah, they're just gonna belike well, get me the fuck out
(08:44):
of here.
I got nothing else to do, I'mjust gonna eat pounds of sugar.
That's my, that's my rant onthat, yeah yeah, that's.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
That pretty much sums up the study.
So yeah, you're not addicted tosugar, but yeah, sugar makes
things taste good, no shit.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
So that's why yeah, after if I did bodybuilding,
yeah, I would be like I think.
I think I would go with friesand burgers.
Good, milkshake and fries,that's the way to go.
You take the fries, you putthem in the milkshake and that
way you get them both.
It's a salty and a sweet.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Yeah, it's like the Wendy's.
The Wendy's milkshakes and thefries are the best.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Game changer.
See, I'm a fish and chips guy.
I would just have a stack offish this high, a stack of fries
this high.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
No fries this high.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
No, yeah, I'm with you on this.
Yeah, the fried fish?
Speaker 2 (09:24):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
It's like I'm clapping.
Yeah well, you probably likebananas.
That must be a Canada thing.
A Canada thing I think well,it's a Britain thing because
they're not allowed to haveseasoning.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
England doesn't allow to have any food that tastes
good, so they just like fry itto make it palatable.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
See, I'm half Canadian, half British, so the
British side wants the fish andchips, the Canadian side wants
some poutine, so you get fishand poutine.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
I'm saying no to all that.
So anyway, nikki, I'm kind ofcurious because it always
whenever I talk with women, I'mcurious what you see in the
barriers for women into intolifting weights and get it.
Because you know we always seethe thing like, oh, I don't want
to get bulky, and I'm alwaysjust like, oh, boy that was
exactly so I'm sure that's one,but give us, like you know, give
(10:15):
us a little rundown of thatsort of genre the first thing
that popped into my head was Idon't want to get too bulky.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
And it's hilarious.
There's's a clip on myInstagram, there's a reel where
I made of me like, say, liketalking to women that think
they're going to get too bulky,and it's like I'm talking to a
wall because like it's notpossible for that to happen in,
in women at least, we don't have, unless we're taking, you know,
the steroids and stuff.
But like women don't have asmuch testosterone as women as
(10:43):
men do, so we're not going toget as big and bulky as men do.
And then there's another onewhere they think that carbs make
them fat.
It just like blows my mind.
I hate that one because carbsare so good, and especially if
people are going for the goal ofwanting to be more toned and
wanting to build more muscle,they have to incorporate eating
carbs, because carbs give themthat strength inside of the gym
(11:05):
and every carb that you eatturns into glycogen and then
glycogen just holds on to morewater weight.
So that's what they're seeingon the scale, but it's not
actually fat.
So we need to make like hashtagcarbs.
Make carbs great again, becausethat needs to happen.
Do you think?
Speaker 2 (11:20):
it's more.
Do you find that's moreprominent with women?
Because I think the carbs makeyou fat is sort of a general
thing, Like it's.
We're moving that because wehave to either demonize one fats
or carbs, Like that's it.
We have to have a boogeyman andwe're more in the stage of fats
are the most amazing thing everand carbs now will give you all
the cancers.
But what you know, is it morecommon with women that you see
that they think carbs are goingto make them fat?
Speaker 3 (11:42):
women that you see that they think carbs are going
to make them fat.
I mean, I talk to women all daylong, so that's just my.
I feel like that's what theysay all of the time.
Then they come into ourcommunity and they're talking
about that.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
I think it's women also.
You know, studies have shownthey're more likely to have
disordered eating patterns.
At least women are what?
Three times or something morelikely to have eating disorders.
I think that's a lot of thepressure that's put on them.
So they probably just face morepressure from kind of the quote
unquote, diet culture orwhatever you want to say.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Oh a hundred percent the marketing that they grew up
with Jenny Craig, weightWatchers, like all of those
things.
They just like brain and thenthe parents that they grew up
with.
If their parents were on a dietafter diet.
They've been ingrained withthese concepts in their brain
and these narratives and thesestories and it it totally can
lead to those avenues ofdisordered eating or disordered
thought processes around it.
(12:28):
So, yeah, it's, but there's thethey.
They hear things on socialmedia.
If there are people are sayingcars make them fat, then they
think it's going to make themfat.
But what I love to do is belike do what evidence do you
have to support that?
Because, like, you know what Ido, what I like to, like what I
coach and be a coach.
I'm like in my profession it'snot to make you fat.
Like I would be doing adisservice if I was making
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somebody fat.
Right, they were coming to measking for help and then they
turned out to be fat.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
So like, it's-, you would be the worst coach ever,
ever yeah.
Unless you were actually tryingto coach them to be fat, which
is you're doing a pretty goodjob, yeah.
So I feel like women are moretargeted by that you need to
lose fat stuff, and so they'remore likely to get or see that
(13:15):
carbs make you fat thing,whereas I think men are more
targeted by the uh, the toxicmasculine.
Gotta go carnivore, got to eatmeat stuff.
A lot of men avoid carbs, butit's not because of carbs making
you fat.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
It's because carbs are bad, because they're not
meat.
Yeah, I don't know.
There's a ton of shit out therethat says all the things you
just got to keep it back to thebasics.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Yeah, I just wanted to go back to the thing I see,
yes is um, um, weightliftingmakes you bulky, which is it's,
it's, it's, it's hilariousbecause there's, like there's so
many men that are trying to getbulky and failing, like it's
just it's difficult for them,it's really not gonna happen for
you.
And the thing is like you dosee, like the uh, like kind of
open bodybuilding competitionswhere women do take excessive
(14:05):
amounts of exogenous hormones,you know, testosterone, all that
and they can get bulky.
And then women see that and arelike, oh, I'll end up like that
if I pick up this pink dumbbell.
And it's like you know,weightlifting is so great for
anybody, like you know strengthtraining, especially as you get
older, we see more and more howimportant it is.
So, don't worry about that, Likeit's just such a silly thing to
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worry about.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
How long did it take you to actually put on a decent
amount of muscle?
Speaker 3 (14:31):
dude like five, maybe five years yeah, it made it
where I wanted to be.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Like I'm nine, ten years into the journey, it
didn't happen overnight yeah, alot of people think it goes on
faster than it actually does andthat overnight they're suddenly
going to become this gigantic,manly looking and I don't even
want to say manly looking,because like that's, that's not
(14:56):
right either.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Look at the liver king, like it was mr turtle
shell.
Oh, I love the.
He said he's terrible, but Ilove the liver king at least
he's entertaining.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Yeah, he's very entertaining, he's very
entertaining.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
I love to see the mr turtle there, like you see he's
just got this.
You know it's like, uh, oh man,like back in the day you go to
like the, the.
You know we don't do themanymore, but the freak shows,
quote, unquote, that's that thathe would be, he would, he would
sell out, it would be so good.
So what do you like?
I'm kind of, what would yourecommend for, uh, women?
(15:30):
Kind of, just like they'reinterested, right, okay, so they
don't really know what they'redoing.
They they're interested inlifting some weights.
You know where did they start?
Like what's a good place tostart?
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Well, they want to start lifting weights.
What I would say is to get themout of the cardio room and off
of the treadmills, and off theellipticals and the stepmaster.
Wait, hold on.
No, no, no, because cardioburns more fat.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
So they have to do cardio.
So that's so, you know,obviously debunked immediately.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
I know I'm allowing you to go forward with this
thought process.
Yeah, the more muscle you haveto your body, it increases your
BMI or your BMR, naturally.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
I mean it does increase your BM it does
increase your BMI.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Technically I'm obese , so when I go into a doctor's
office that shit is so whack.
I mean it does increase yourbmi and your bm.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
I increase all the b's, don't worry about.
So what we're talking abouthere is your bmr, so basically
calories you burn during the day, just existing and, and you
know, lean tissue.
So muscle is very active, soit's going to require you to eat
more calories to fuel it.
So building muscle is a goodidea if you're trying to lose
(16:44):
some fat.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Exactly, amen, thank you, you just said it perfectly.
And then to go back to thestrength training thing, if you
want to go strength train, Iwould say first it's the big
fear of getting over the thoughtprocess that when you walk into
the weight room, everybody islooking at you Like there's
every woman is so afraid to walkin there and they have this
thought process that that peopleare watching how they're
(17:07):
working out or watching howthey're doing their form or
whatever.
They're just nervous to go dothat, to walk into the weight
room.
So I would say definitely likenobody.
Nobody's concerned about whatyou're doing, they're only
concerned about how they lookand what they're doing, um.
And then the second thing is Iwould say is uh, if you've never
lifted a weight before,definitely don't go in and go
ham like.
(17:28):
Have a plan, have a plan tofollow, um, because it could
first of all I'm thinking aboutlike injuries and then it can
just be hard on the body and allthat stuff.
So you got to take it light andeasy to begin with.
Maybe it's like a couple ofdays in your first week or two
weeks, um, and you're gettingcomfortable with following the
plan and doing that.
And I would say study, exercisevideo so that you can feel more
(17:50):
confident.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Do you have any outlets on that that you
recommend Enjoy just somethingfor people to go look towards,
anything.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
Totally as far as creating a plan.
Yeah, you can go to WarriorBabe.
You can check outwarriorbabecom.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
There you go.
You can shake with your ownstuff.
That's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
There you go there we go yeah, you can definitely do
that.
If you don't want to thinkabout putting together a plan,
you can support you in doingthat.
We have a team of 66 coaches,so they all work individually
with their own clients and theywill make the plan for you and
they'll guide you along the wayso that you feel confident with
the plan to go after.
But yeah, if you want to startstrength training, I would say,
(18:26):
just start trying it and startdoing it and have the mentors,
have the people to support youalong the way.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
And I think it's.
I think it's tough people ingeneral I mean for women for
sure but all people is just likeyou want to go all in or not,
and that's kind of getting away.
We talk about this a lot onthis podcast getting away from
the all or nothing mentality.
So like you're going to go andI'm going to do an hour of
weightlifting, you don't need todo that, there's no.
When you're starting off,you'll gain muscle from looking
at weights.
So you just need to get inthere and do and start with
(18:56):
something.
You know.
10 minutes, 15 minutes is fine.
Hey, you usually do 30 minuteson the elliptical.
Make it 15, do 15 minutes ofweightlifting, just balance it
out.
You know you don't have to.
Like she said, you don't haveto go crazy.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
A little bit is better than nothing.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Yeah, I'm thinking about when I first started my
journey, what I did.
It's like I didn't know what todo.
I was spending so much time onPinterest looking at like back
workouts and trying to followlike those types of things, and
until I wasn't seeing the typeof results that I wanted,
because I didn't feel like I wasdoing it the right way, I
finally hired somebody that knewwhat to do and then they put
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together the plan for me, theyput together the guidance, so I
didn't have to think about itand waste more time.
I wanted to get to my resultsfaster.
So, um and yeah, and then I.
Then I found out I was doingthings wrong.
To what your point was like youdon't have to spend an hour
inside the gym.
My workouts were like 40, 45minutes max.
Um, when I first started, whenwe got into the world of
bodybuilding which is stupid,ridiculous I was inside the gym
(19:52):
fucking seven days a week.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Uh, doing cardio for two, three hours a day my first
meal of tuna fish and rice in mycontainer.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
Let me just pop that up don't, you want any seasoning
.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
What's seasoning?
Speaker 3 (20:05):
I don't understand b eat spoon with ma I used to
travel with my food on the planeand had to put it in a plastic
bag and eat fish and tilapia ona plane.
Like who does that?
Speaker 2 (20:17):
that's, yeah, I mean when you look at when let's say
okay, listen in the venn diagramthe venn diagram I think that's
right where there's the circlesyou got like disordered eating
and you got bodybuilding.
There's a big overlap there.
I'm telling you what thosecircles come together hard
non-overlap.
Yeah, like, if you just asked acompetitive bodybuilder like a
disorder, eating disorderquestionnaire, there would be a
(20:38):
lot of fucking yeses.
I'm telling you that, like, howoften do you think about your
diet?
You know, like all the you know, do you eat tilapia on a plane
out of a bag?
Yes, of course I do otherpeople, don't you know?
Speaker 3 (20:51):
yeah, facts, yeah, 100.
I had a pot.
I made a podcast of how I washospitalized because of the
restrictive eating.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Oh man and I think a lot of people see that and then
that makes them a little timidabout you know into getting into
the weightlifting, like that isjust it's, it's, it's a sport,
it's a, it's a beautycompetition.
So I think, and like to yourpoint earlier, it is especially
tough for women like you getinto like the weightlifting area
where it's all dudes that arejust sweaty and gross Right and
(21:20):
it's they're all just likestringers and like you're and
it's to be the only female there, like that's gotta be kind of
tough, like I understand that.
But like I'm telling you, thepeople that I meet at the gym
are just like the most nicewelcoming.
Um, you know you're gonna getyour d-bags, like it's gonna
happen.
It's like that's life, that'severywhere you go.
But seriously, people the gymhave been just so like hey,
(21:42):
you're doing awesome, like justcompliments, I anywhere, if I
could go anywhere, it just totry and then have to try and
receive a couple.
But basically most of thecomments I've ever compliments
I've ever received, they've beenin the gym.
That's where people I find yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
And then talking about the people that might be
looking at you, chances arethey're looking at you to see if
you're looking at them becausethey're nervous that you're
looking at them.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
It's like two people.
They're like don't look at me.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
No, let me go hide.
Yeah, it's so, and a lot oftime they're maybe looking at
you because they don't know whatthey're doing.
So they're trying to figure outlike you're doing, how you're
doing it, so like I know it'stough.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
There's quite a few people come over to me and ask
me about the exercise that I'mdoing because they were
interested about it.
They asked me you know how todo certain things and you can do
that.
There's lots of people in thegym.
You can go talk to, ask themquestions.
They are happy to help you.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
Yeah, totally A hundred percent.
What I would say, though, tothat back to that point was with
, like, when people are lookingat you in the gym, what I did at
the beginning if there'sanything that wants to help
people with that type of mindsetI used to walk in with a hat.
I used to just put a hat on and, like, put like, it acted as if
it was like my blinders, so Icouldn't see anybody around me
and I couldn't, like payattention to anybody that was
(22:57):
around me.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
I couldn't see that if they can't see me exactly, if
they can't see me, I can'tleave.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Yeah, you know, it works.
It fucking worked.
It was nice.
So people in one.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
You always kind of have to find what works for you
because, yeah, like everybody is, is so different.
But man, yeah, I'll, I'll tellyou just and find, go go to a
gym, spend a few minutes and,just you know, find some good
music.
I always think good music, orsomething you enjoy listening to
while you're there, is alwayshelpful.
Um, trying new things too aswell, like it's always it's
(23:29):
about trying new things, Uh, but, like the question I always
like to ask for people likeyourself who are, like you know,
coach who does?
Who does coaching?
You know, what are some thingsthat you have seen from your
clients?
What are?
I always forget how I phrasethis, Rob, but I'm going to, I'm
going to figure it out, it'stotally fine.
What are some?
What are some collective thingsthat that all the successful
(23:52):
people in your experience too.
So, like you know, I'm sureyou've seen there's gotta be
trends with people like thepeople who achieve the things
they set out to do have somesimilar traits Like what are
maybe a you know a few traitsthat you've seen.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
Yeah, that's a great question.
I love the book Atomic Habitsby James Clear, where he talks
about the winner's mentality andthe loser's mentality, the
winner's mentality, the onesthat, like literally, these two
people have the same goals, theywant to achieve the same things
.
Right, but it's the um, it'sthe winners that you know that
actually.
So it can't be the goals thatare the same thing, right, or it
(24:26):
can't be the goals that are thedifferentiator between the same
goals.
Right, the same goal.
So it's the systems.
It's the systems that they putinto place and it's it's like
drinking their water.
It's the systems that they putinto place and it's it's like
drinking their water.
It's doing their workout, it'stracking their macros or
whatever nutrition plan they'refollowing.
It's consistently doing thosethings over a period of time and
uh and following through on it.
(24:47):
So the biggest thing that'ssuccessful people that I see
that are successful and are thewinners are the consistency and
like actually doing, like thething that they said they're
going to do and follow throughon it.
Like you know, it could be threemonths into a program and maybe
a person is wondering why, likethey, two people start at the
same time, right, and they'reworking with the same coach and
(25:09):
one three months in, thisperson's getting awesome results
and they're similar body typelike, similar lifestyle, similar
, similar, similar, like all ofthe things, cause there's a vast
like.
There's so many differentpeople and so many individual
people.
But let's just say that, forthe context of the story,
there's one person that is alittle bit further along with
the progress that they're seeing, and the other one's wondering
(25:29):
why they're not seeing as muchprogress.
And when you ask the questionsand you dive deeper and you try
and you know formulate why oneis further ahead than the other.
It's because the other one'sbeen super consistent and they
follow through on the plan.
They've done the workouts youknow, the five out of five times
in a week and if there's been aspeed bump along the way, they
didn't allow that speed bump toget in their way.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Yeah, that's what I wanted to get out, because that
is what we see so often.
People start off usually prettywell, like when they start
something, they're sticking toit for a few days, a week, a
couple weeks, whatever it is,but it's always that first call
it failure, I guess.
Whatever it is, you call itspeed bump, whatever you want to
call it that people just like,ah, fuck it, it's always that
(26:12):
it's always like yeah, whateverI did, this it's over.
And getting out of that, I find,is one of the most difficult
things for people.
And I don't know, I don't havethe exact answer, how to get out
of that.
But boy, you just have torealize, like one small slip up
mistake, whatever isn't going toruin your whole journey, like
it's, it's such it's essentially, essentially meaningless in the
(26:36):
context of your whole fitnessjourney that one mistake it's
just, that turns into, you know,the whole week, the whole month
or whatever it is.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Well, you know you I don't know if you talked about
this on the podcast before, butyou talked about it at some
point um, how you never worryabout any of the mistakes you
make because you compare it tothe people who had the chance to
buy Netflix.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Was it Best Buy?
That's the best.
Best Buy could have boughtNetflix not once, but twice, and
they turned them down, and soyou got to just think about the
people who made horribledecisions in life, and then you
feel better.
So compare yourself to terriblepeople and you will feel better
.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
That is the message of this entire podcast.
Good night everyone.
Have a swell day best bye.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Compare yourself to the worst decisions in human
history and you will feel somuch better about yourself and
your than the poor decision thatyou made facts.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
There was a different put on my story, though.
Today it's along these lines um, it was a quote by michael
jordan.
When a child is learning how towalk and falls down 50 times,
they never think to themselves.
Maybe this ain't for me I likethat just pick it back up.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Thomas edison.
He's like I didn't fail 500times to make the light bulb.
I just found out 500 ways tonot make a light bulb.
Now, thomas edison was a shittyass person.
He was like he stole everythingand he was terrible.
May he rot in his grave.
But like that's a good quote,that's a solid quote.
They can still the bad ones canstill have some good ones.
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
A hundred percent.
Yeah, a hundred percent.
If you experience a failurealong the way, just get right
back up and continue on failurealong the way.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Just get right back up and continue on so I
conveniently had this text froma friend this morning damn, I
could have bought netflix and Ididn't do it.
Why did I not?
Speaker 1 (28:19):
that's exactly what this text is.
How did you know?
Um, it's from a female friendof mine.
So I've been lifting weightsconsistently with a trainer
since october.
Barely any noticeable muscle.
My friend, one month doing somestupid beach body instant
muscle.
Is this genetics?
This isn't fair this isn't fairI like literally don't know
(28:45):
what to say to that like there's, there's a lot that uh could go
into that.
Like maybe it, maybe thetrainer is just not a good
trainer, um first, yeah, firststart with maybe fire.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
Thank gosh, you fired the trainer I mean, there is
that then but I mean, there'sdefinitely a genetic component
to it.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
There are people that we all hate, these people right
.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
Okay, we all have those friends.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Like I have a friend from high school who just like,
just got jacked from nothing.
Like I hate, I think he's agood person.
Hate him, hate his guts, hateeverything about him, cause it's
not fair.
Like you look at those peopleand you're like, why it can be?
Like I'm just, I'm just tryingto sympathize with people
(29:30):
because we all know that fuckingperson we'll call him chad
chad's a dick chad might be anice such a dick chad might be a
nice person.
We hate chad, we all hate chadbecause and even chad, like,
understands it, like I thinkthey get it.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
They're like this is women and their husbands.
They hate when their husbandsare able to lose a 10 pounds in
like three weeks.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Yeah and it's 100% true.
Because men have a higher likegen on average, men have a
higher caloric.
You know requirement right.
So if they cut out, if you bothcut out one thing, they're
probably gonna lose the malesprobably gonna lose more weight
and that and that fucking suckslike and it's frustrating to see
.
We see that and we're like,damn, why can't I have it like
that?
But you, at the end of the day,genetics does place just a
(30:11):
massive component with it.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
And you have to.
It's true that some people havemore androgen receptors.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
And there's I mean there's definitely that and you
have to, and I know it's.
People have heard this fuckingcountless times, but I'm gonna
tell you again because I can.
It's my fucking podcast.
I can do whatever I want withthis okay and I can also swear.
To all you people saying Ishould stop swearing.
I'll do what the fuck I want.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
You have fans that tell you to swear more though so
yeah, yeah, those are myfucking buddies right there.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
I get that all the time it'll ever stop.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
I'm not, so I can do.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
What I want, and what I want to do is tell you to
goddamn compare yourself to you,because I know we've all heard
that, but, man, you compareyourself to other people.
You're just it's never.
It's never good, it's nevergood.
You see people on instagram.
It's all fucking lighting andgenetics and posing and this,
and that, if you compareyourself to you, though, you you
know, you lost five pounds, youcan go longer on the treadmill,
you can, you feel better,whatever it is, those small
(31:03):
things will keep you going morethan you know.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Whatever fucking thing you're comparing yourself
to, which is stupid anyway andanother thing is if you don't
know how much muscle thatperson's put on in the past, if
they put on muscle and then theylost some muscle, it's easier
for them to put the muscle backon again that's an actual thing.
But also shout out to leondogwood, who's the one that told
you to swear more all my, myswearing buddies, yeah, no see,
(31:30):
that's my plan.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Listen, I'm gonna take pictures right now and then
I'm just gonna get like I'mjust gonna gain a ton of weight,
and then I'm gonna do beforeand after and reverse them dude,
I thought about doing thattoday because you could, you
could easily look at the beforeand after.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Come on and you just swap them.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
That's easy it's so easy to gain.
I just gained the weight boomand then everybody signs up.
Problem solved.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
Oh wait, I thought about something completely
different when you were sayingthat Never mind.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Well, we've all thought about this at one time.
That's what's important.
We all thought about scammingpeople and how easy it would be.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
You need to think of those things.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
We think about that every single episode.
We think about that everysingle episode, and how we can
scam people out of money and howmuch money we could make.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Yep, somebody could literally listen to this podcast
and learn everything there isto know about scamming people.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Welcome back to InScameration.
Get your pens and pencils out,because this is how you're going
to take others' money.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
Now it's reversing your before and after photos.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
We got the supplements.
Reverse your before and afterphotos.
We got the supplements.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
reverse your before and after Nothing worse than I
saw on Instagram somebodycalling out somebody else for
Photoshopping and totally likechanging the way the weights
were in the photo and then likebringing in the waistline and
stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
There's so much of that If you don't know, like I'm
telling you there there's somuch photo videos can be pretty
edited pretty well.
Now, like it's.
It's crazy, so you can't trust,like anything you say fucking
ai's taking over.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
We're all screwed.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
We're all screwed.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
I mean i's taking over, okay I I've made bobby do
an entire sitcom episode.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Moral of the story hope is lost, give up.
That's an entire sitcom episode.
Moral of the story hope is lost, give up.
That's.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
I gotta tell you guys , this is the most interesting
fucking podcast I've ever beenon.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
This is what we do.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
That means we're doing our job.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
We swear and we yell at our listeners.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
This is what we do.
You know that's great guys.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Sometimes people need a little bit of the David
Goggins.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
That was me on my Instagram story today.
If you guys go check it out,I'm yelling at the fact that
fucking Ozempic and theseinjectables.
I got a text today fromactually a company that I really
respect and it was the factthat they are launching their
weight loss program.
It's here, it's launching theirweight management program and
(33:57):
you can now book in yourconsultation and it's fucking
semi-glutatide and a bunch ofother injections on their PDF
and they Is there some big likelose this much weight in this
amount of time?
Weight loss Weight loss Backedby science.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
Backed by science.
Smart, that's smart.
There we go See.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
now we're learning.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
See, this is where we learn the good shit, how we
fucking scam people.
What else we got?
How else are we scamming people?
Let me know, yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
So it was me screaming on my Instagram
because, like the two things onthere is, it stabilizes blood
sugar and it curbs your cravings.
I was like guess what people?
Guess what else fucking doesFucking protein?
Eat your protein in a day.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
I would add boost metabolism in there as well.
I think that's important to addbecause that's like a big
people love that.
So yeah, I would just add thaton top.
That's pretty good.
That's pretty good.
I give him a nine out of ten.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
This is so mad, I'm raging, oh it's fucking
infuriating.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
That's why I yell so much on this podcast.
I mean, there's a lot ofreasons I yell.
But that's one of the reasons Iyell so much.
Yeah, true story, and I thinkpeople sympathize because we're
all just fucking angry, likeevery single one of us is just
fucking mad.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
Like we just reach that point where you've learned
that all of this stuff isscamming.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
All of these things are are players on words to here
like how is the fitnessindustry still here?
Like, how are we still like?
Speaker 2 (35:20):
because it fucking works well, yeah, because that's
why it's still here facts andit's so infuriating for us
because we see it.
We're like, ok, it does thething you're saying works,
doesn't work, but what you aredoing in scamming people 100
percent works and you just don'tgive a shit.
So it's just frustrating foranyone else who just like who
(35:41):
sees this and understands.
You just want to scream and youjust want to scream, and so
either you scream into a pillowor you make a podcast, like I
did, and you yell at yourlisteners and that is all you
can do.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
People stop fucking listening to those assholes
Moving on here for it.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
How are you doing, Rob?
What's going on?
Speaker 1 (36:03):
I'm not being my worst, Liam.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
And we're not our worst, and that's what's
important.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Small steps.
Don't be your, your worst.
And that's your introduction toliam's ranting fucking.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
It's one step at a time.
You oh you made a misstep oh,it's a bad week now fuck that
shit it's once.
It's one mistake.
Who gives a shit, it doesn'tmatter anyway you know I love
your content, Liam.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
Your content's great.
I'm waiting for the K-bye.
Do you say that at the end?
Speaker 2 (36:33):
of the podcast K-bye.
All I want to do in my videosis just yell at people like you
know what you have to do.
It's not complicated.
Stop listening to people thatsay eat raw testicles.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
No, that's not the answer.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
I know you are asking me is this is real?
Speaker 3 (36:50):
no, it's not real, you know it's not real k bye k
bye.
What got me so mad about that?
Because he's eating rawtesticles, saying that's the way
that the way to the way to goto get the results yet didn't
come out until, like what, ayear later, about him taking the
drugs or people take anyonewith two eyeballs no, anybody
(37:11):
with one eyeball fucking knewthat dude was on every drug.
No, kidding I knew I called itand then my friends were like no
way and I was like dude ahundred percent, a hundred
percent, it totally is.
And then I was like, when itcame out, I was like told you so
, told you so, fucking, told youso Of course he is.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
He looks like a fucking mutant, obviously.
How do you not know?
But no, it's the primallifestyle, bro.
You just need to wake up andfucking sun your taint and then
go eat as many raw testicles asyour stomach can fit.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
I saw that on your content.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
For the listeners that somehow don't know what
he's talking about.
He's talking about Liver Kingagain.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
Liver King Again entertaining, fun to watch
complete.
I don't know a jester.
He's a jester in the 21stcentury.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
Let's all go to Utah School after this.
That's my assessment.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
So what's your guys' week been like?
Speaker 2 (38:12):
How you doing.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
Well, I mean, we did play a lot of Baldur's Gate.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
Man, that game's fun.
See and see you work out andthen you play video games.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
That's the way you go .
Speaker 3 (38:25):
I just bought an Xbox , my first Xbox ever.
There you go See.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
Now you can come play Baldur's Gate with us.
You got to play.
I'm pretty sure it'scross-border, you have to rest
in order to build muscle.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
We don't build muscle in the gym, right we?
Break down muscle in the gymand we build it playing Baldur's
Gate sitting on our butts.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
This is what we do Doing critical BDSM sessions.
Bdsm sessions, What'd you say?
Speaker 2 (38:47):
Nikki.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
Rob's yelling at me.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
Why does Rob always yell on this podcast.
Shut up.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
You burn calories while you're doing it.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
You go, you well.
You burn calories while you'reyelling.
No, you work out, and then youcome and you relax and that is
where you repair Okay, and it'severything in moderation.
You work out, you eat healthyfood most not healthy.
You eat nutritious food most ofthe time, and then you enjoy
your doritos while playingbalder's gate.
And, yes, it gets your keyboarda little dorito-y, but you can
(39:19):
clean that, it's fine I thinkit's absolutely hilarious.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
sometimes in the lives you get the comments from
people that are like why are youplaying video games?
To have a little fun?
I'm sorry People are trolls.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
Oh God.
And it's always fun, isn't itfun?
That the trolls always stick upfor the people scamming people
in the fucking oh yeah, it's thebest Like they've bought fully
into.
They're the ones that boughtinto the like Liver King and
shit, and you're just like whatis life?
Speaker 1 (39:49):
What is going on?
Those are the ones thatactually thought liver king was
natural.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
Yeah, what's happened ?
Where did we go wrong?
Anyway, I guess we shouldprobably get back to telling
people like what they canactually do to help themselves.
That's probably good 40 minutesin moderation.
Track your macros, eat right,work out do video games, the
(40:17):
things you know you need to do,you already know them.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
Yeah, exactly but um one thing you do talk about is
uh post perimenopausal stuff Ithink that's important yeah yeah
, and that's something that liamand I obviously have no idea
about, not an expert.
Speaker 3 (40:37):
No, I've personally never gone through it, but I I
share a bunch of, I mean, theeducation background was I went
to nursing school and so I haveall of that insight.
Um worked in the field for nineyears.
But yeah, I mean, our communityis all full of women that are
pre-post-menopause, goingthrough it, and I think one of
the most important things thatthis demographic can be doing is
(40:58):
strength training because atthe age of which this happens,
their estrogen drops, all thehormones are shifting internally
, their bone density is gettingweaker, Osteoporosis is a real
thing Later on in life.
I remember, when I worked inthe ER, the amount of like
fractures and hip fractures ofolder women that I would see
coming in.
(41:18):
I'm like man you can tell.
You can look at somebody youcan realize that they probably
never worked out a day in theirlife before.
And so I think you know juststressing the fact that those
women that are in that age groupshould be in the world of
strength training.
And I'm not talking about, likeyou know, boot camps and like
F45 and like Orange Theory.
I'm talking like actuallyputting the resistance on the
(41:40):
body to make the bones, to makethe muscles stronger.
That in turn make the bonesstronger.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
But that's going to make me look like a man, I think
.
Speaker 2 (41:48):
Well, especially at that age age, it definitely
ain't because hormones aredefinitely not there, 100, so
and for you know, for women inthat age range, like you know,
you really don't need a lot ofweight.
You can easily work out at home.
I know a lot of people arestill just against the gym.
If you can just buy some simpleweights bands, you know just
yeah, a good set of resistancebands.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
You could get like 50 bucks I know, they will take
you a far way 100 you could dotempo work.
Speaker 3 (42:14):
You could slow down the movement.
Like you could put more timeunder tension to really create
the burn, like all that you look, you can look up.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
Youtube is.
I don't know if you've everheard of it.
It's a place they got lots ofvideos.
There's at least 10 of them, Idon't know and you just
moderation on?
Speaker 1 (42:28):
I think people should look up in moderation on
YouTube.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
Hey, don't plug our podcast during our podcast idiot
, great plug, listen, look up,look up.
You know resistance bandsworkouts like, and there's a
kajillion billion of them andyou can just buy yourself some
simple bands.
That's how you plug.
You can look up, up worry, butyeah, exactly, I love it and you
(42:54):
know, and you can work out athome, listen to your own music,
listen to whatever you like tolisten to, and you know you're
in the privacy of your own home.
Just, something is alwaysbetter than nothing.
Doing that, what two, threetimes a week for 20 minutes,
like I'm pretty sure most peoplecan find, at least that you
know, you don't even have totravel.
Speaker 1 (43:14):
Now we got cozy bulking, call cozy bulk.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
I don't know if I'm on the with cozy cozy building
cozy come true.
Speaker 1 (43:22):
So we need the alliteration.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
Okay, relaxed, resistant no.
Speaker 3 (43:40):
We're going to workshop this.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
We're going to come back to this at some point, but
just in your own home and havingthat for a lot of people they
just feel more comfortable.
So that's A-OK Facts.
Speaker 1 (43:53):
Now we're all chill.
We've gotten it all out of oursystem.
Now is the zen moment Deepbreath the simple things man.
Speaker 3 (44:06):
I'm telling you, it's just the simple things, the
thing fix 100%.
Speaker 1 (44:09):
Is there anything that you wanted to talk about
while you were here?
Speaker 3 (44:13):
eat, lift, be nice to people and work hard.
Speaker 2 (44:24):
Again you go back to the simple things.
Speaker 3 (44:25):
That's all it is, people it's okay, get your steps
in steps in a day.
Speaker 2 (44:30):
People, that's really important get your steps in
drink your waters or your dietsoda, because, no, it's not
gonna give you all the cancers,it's fine I have another thing,
um my fridge.
Speaker 3 (44:40):
Right now it's there we go.
Speaker 1 (44:43):
Another thing, though , is that we should also
probably start encouragingyounger women to get into sports
and lifting more I mean yeah,totally, I think all like sports
.
Speaker 3 (44:54):
that's how I started my whole.
I played sports growing up,played basketball, field, hockey
, track, um, and that's whatgave me tons of, first of all,
structure routine and then youhad a coach telling you all the
things that you had to do, you,you had practice, you had to
show up to like, and you justfind, you find your, you find a
lot of confidence doing thatkind of stuff.
And then after that, the reasonwhy I got back to back into
(45:17):
bodybuilding is because afterthe sports college, life
happened and you have that likeweird error where you're trying
to like figure things out andlike learn life and I forgot
what the feeling was like havinga coach.
So, totally like, I thinksports at a young age gives you
a ton of a ton of a lot ofthings, a lot of things to learn
(45:39):
in life from, from being insports.
Yeah, lost my train of thoughtthere, but no, I think it's it's
it's great avenue.
Speaker 2 (45:46):
But for a lot of people, I think they get in this
mindset where they don't do anyof those, they don't do sports,
or, you know, at a younger age,and they're like, oh, it's just
kind of too late, you know,like I just never got into it,
so I'm not going to get into it.
Listen, I'll tell you what.
Until the age of 20, the onlytime I ever ran was by pressing
a, like I literally I didn't, Ididn't play any sports, I didn't
do anything athletic whatsoever.
(46:07):
And it wasn't until I was in mytwenties, really until I
started doing active things.
So like it, you know, andthere's people in their forties,
fifties doing it for theirfirst time.
That's fine, like, get into it,mess up learn.
That's what's important.
Speaker 1 (46:20):
But like I definitely seen a lot of um stuff, that
kind of uh, it's that speed bumpfor women to get or for young
girls to get into sports andstuff.
And like I don't know if youguys saw it, but I think it was
in Kentucky there was a girls'basketball team.
(46:41):
That was just.
It was a mixed league, so boysand girls playing, and this one
school had all girls on theirteam and they were absolutely
whooping the boys.
They went seven and one intheir league.
They were absolutely whoopingthe boys.
They went seven and one intheir league.
And then when it got time to dothe big competition at the end
of the season, the leagueactually banned them from
(47:08):
competing in that because theydidn't want the boys to lose to
girls.
Not even joking, that was theirreason.
Speaker 2 (47:13):
That's so great.
That's so great, that's sogreat.
Talk about fragile masculinityat its finest Right.
Speaker 1 (47:22):
Like these, girls were absolutely whooping the
boys teams.
Speaker 3 (47:27):
Wait, that's honestly smart, though here's how I'll
never lose.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
You can't play Boom.
Problem solved, yep.
Speaker 3 (47:34):
I would feel like that would almost fuck me up
even more if I was a boy.
Speaker 2 (47:39):
It's like they got handed it.
Don't worry about me, I'm justeating tofu over here because I
hurt, because the internet toldme, it'll give me man boobs
because they can't have thateither.
You can't have anything if youlisten to the internet.
Don't listen to any of theinternet, you won't be able to
eat any food In moderation 2024.
Speaker 1 (48:00):
Wow, well, I think you need to tell everybody where
to find you, obviously.
I mean, there's something aboutlike a warrior and a babe in
there somewhere.
Speaker 3 (48:10):
Yes, you guys, if you want what we talked about
earlier.
You know we heavily help womenin the age brackets of like 40
to 70 years old that arestruggling with learning how to
eat right.
Our North Stars macronutrientsare a macronutrient based
company, but like we're notgoing to, like you know, bring a
client in and be like yo, yougot to track protein, fats and
(48:30):
carbs right out the gate.
It ain't going to happen.
Talk about failure right there.
It out the gate, it ain't goingto happen.
Talk about failure right there.
So we'll help them learn aboutnutrition and we'll help you
guys get you know strengthtraining plans underway.
Learn how to you know buildmore muscle.
I love to say muscles are organof longevity.
That's what Dr Gabriel Lyonsays.
So, yeah, if you want all thatsupport along your fitness
journey, we've helped over18,000 women.
(48:51):
Check it out worrybabecom.
And you guys can find me onsocials at Nikki Stop, I spell
it all weird.
It's N-I-K-K-I-E-Y and it's S-T, not C, my whole life.
Everyone says my last name isScott, but it's S-T-O-T-T.
And you guys can find me at theMacro Hour.
I have a podcast too as well.
So yeah, yeah, thanks.
Speaker 1 (49:12):
So what you're saying is you actually teach women to
not eat 1,000 calories that theycan actually eat more than that
.
Speaker 2 (49:19):
Facts yeah, the 1,200 calories, the 1,000 calories I
used to want to bash my headinto a wall.
Speaker 3 (49:25):
Yeah, every woman comes to us.
Speaker 2 (49:27):
I'd yell, but I'm done yelling, I'm out of it.
I got nothing left in the tank,Sorry guys.
Speaker 1 (49:31):
Bye.
I think that was the biggestrant you've had in a while.
Speaker 3 (49:37):
That was good, that was fun, I had a 60-year-old
eating almost 3,600 calories.
Wow, wow, yeah, it's fun stuff.
Speaker 2 (49:50):
That's what I eat, and I burn 2,000 calories a day,
yelling, which is crazy.
Only 2,000?
I mean, it depends on the day,obviously, when I'm bulking,
obviously, yeah.
Speaker 3 (50:01):
I feel like that rant here alone burnt 2,000 calories
.
Speaker 1 (50:07):
Liam's level of neat is up here.
Speaker 2 (50:11):
Yeah, pretty much, pretty much.
Speaker 3 (50:14):
I non-exercise the shit out of that activity
thermogenesis oh wow.
Speaker 1 (50:21):
Liam's introduced an entirely new categorization of
metabolism.
Speaker 2 (50:26):
It's yelling exercise activity thermogenesis,
Honestly there's so muchbullshit in the nutrition and
fitness world, I think I can getpeople on just getting mad.
Here's how you just get mad atum the world and then, like you,
just have to expel caloriesthrough anger.
Would that be good for yourpsyche?
(50:46):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (50:47):
There's only one way to find out well then I mean
everyone loves and it, and it'sbacked by science.
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You're like freakishly reallygood at that he's had a lot of
(51:19):
practice I've seen a lot ofthings and I've I could scam
anyone anywhere I wanted to.
Oh shit all right.
Well, liam sold over to thedark side I not yet, but I will
one day, when eventually I justrun out of energy.
Yeah, you're just gonna breakand heel turn hasn't happened
(51:42):
yet, but trust me, my friends,it will it will, it will yeah
what did you say heel turn heel,heel
turn you turn heel.
It's like when you go evil oh,I've never heard of that.
Speaker 3 (51:55):
It's like in a movie where someone turns heel they
become the villain at that pointoh yeah, I think it's.
Speaker 1 (52:00):
Did it originate with wrestling?
I know wrestling uses it a lot.
I think you're right.
Speaker 2 (52:04):
I think it started with like WWE, like you had the
heel turn so like you had awrestler who was like the good
guy and everyone's like, oh shit, he's a bad guy now.
Speaker 3 (52:13):
It's crazy yeah that's heel turn no, I just
learned something new.
Well, there's your fun fact ofthe day learning on in
moderation.
Good night.
Do you learn anything aboutnutrition?
Speaker 2 (52:22):
or fitness, no, but you learn terms wwe turns.
Speaker 1 (52:29):
Everyone have a nice day there it is, there we go.
End of podcast.
Welcome to episode 29 of In Moderation Valve.
We're getting up there.
We're almost at 30,.
Liam, you're going to have tochange your numbering system.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
I don't.
I've never even said what itwas anyway.
I've always just said a randomnumber.
It's going to continue to be arandom number until always.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Until you finally get it right.
No, I'm never going to get itright.
And then hell freezes over.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
It's just going to get progressively more difficult
to remember Most people justgoing to get progressively more
difficult to remember mostpeople get up to the hundreds
before they forget.
And then I'm in like episodefour.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
So anyway, go ahead.
Uh, so this week's guest iskind of interesting because you
know full disclosure me and liamlike our full disclosures there
.
Um, her pr agent reached out tous and we get pr agents
emailing us every so often and Igo through and I vet their
channels and whatever.
By the way, liam, why don't wehave a fancy schmancy PR agent
(00:51):
Money?
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Money is the answer.
Any PR agents?
Speaker 1 (00:56):
out there want to work for Banana Laffy Taffy.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Absolutely free.
Then come on board.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
So a PR agent reached out to us and I checked out her
channel and I was like you knowwhat this is.
This is pretty good, let'sbring her on.
It's nice to have somebodyoutside of our usual circle, get
some new uh new blood in here.
But, um, her name is nikki andit was very important that we
bring her on because, see, liamand I, we have this audience
(01:26):
that we just don't know anythingabout.
Um, we are a part of a certaindemographic and we can't speak
on that, and so, nikki, tell uswhat it's like to not have
facial hair.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
I was going with, like I was like are we going to
shorter?
Are we going with like I don'tknow, like long well, you have
long hair.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
I don't know, I don't know, I guess yeah I mean
technically, I have facial hair,I have eyebrows, right, so oh,
what defines facial hair?
Speaker 2 (01:56):
like people say, I don't have facial hair either.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
I have a soul patch, which is obviously the best
facial hair duh I was watchingyour content, liam, I was like
damn, that thing is prominent,that is out there.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Listen, if I could dye it, I would too.
I'd make it like red orsomething.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
You can dye it.
That would be hilarious.
One day I will.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
One day I will I don't know when I'll do it
sometime.
That's the point, okay.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
You dye yours, I'll die mine.
You got a lot more work.
Okay, Everybody listening toPatreon.
You get us to episode 100 orsomething, and we'll do this.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Yeah, pay us, so we can then pay a PR person.
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Okay, okay, nikki, tell us all about yourself,
because we absolutely knownothing about you.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
I lift weights, I pick them up and I put them down
excellent okay podcast over.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Can I just say that was planet.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Fitness commercials were the best those are the best
like I pick things up.
I might put them down like itwas so good and this is our
stretching room, just shovesthem out the door.
Those I mean a 10 out of 10.
For those I give 100%.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Anyway, yep, I eat a lot of food.
I love macronutrients becauseit's backed by science.
I lift weights, I strengthtrain and I believe in
empowering tons and tons ofwomen worldwide to do the same
thing, because I think thatdoing those things helps to make
them more healthier, strongerand more confident in themselves
.
So it's a little bit about me.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
That's awesome, and empowering women is kind of why
I really wanted to bring you onhere, because we do have a
demographic that Liam and Iwe're not part of, and the
majority of our listeners areactually women.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Is that true?
That's crazy considering.
I didn't know what a woman wastill I was 10 years old.
It's weird.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Well, it's interesting.
It's awesome, though I mean,you guys are hilarious so far.
I'm just meeting you guys inthe last 15 minutes I had no
idea what I was walking into,but you guys are a vibe.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
That's the way we like things.
Is, you have no idea,completely surprised?
Speaker 1 (04:03):
I don't even know where to go from there.
Let's start with how did youpersonally get into lifting?
Speaker 3 (04:11):
How did I personally get into lifting?
I mean, there's a saying thatbreakups make body odors.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Oh yeah, Me too.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Yeah, totally.
So I was engaged about 10 yearsago and called off that
engagement and best thing I everdid and decided to do things
for myself and think for myselfand act for myself and started
lifting.
And there we got into the worldof bodybuilding.
I competed three times.
(04:42):
I went pro in my first show butit was like a very small
federation.
And then I went pro in mysecond show and it was a bigger
federation called the OCB.
So I'm all natural I've had tobe polygraphed.
I had to pee in a cup after Iwon.
I don't take steroids.
Many people do.
Many people blast me on socialmedia saying that I do.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Oh, of course.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Yeah, the trolls out there, the keyboard usually the
faceless ones.
Yeah, Faceless ones are the oneswhere you click into their
Instagram profiles and, uh, it'slike they're a picture of them
from I don't know.
It's weird stuff.
Anyway.
So got, uh, competed, went tothe pro status and then beat,
went and competed with the prosin the Yorton Cup for the OCB
(05:28):
and then won that, and then Iwas like you know what I'm
deucing out?
It was an extreme lifestylethat I just couldn't get down
with.
Yeah, and let me say even forsomeone like myself.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
I enjoyed the sport of body sport, the sport of
bodybuilding.
It's weird, man.
It's a strange space wherethey're like hey, you know how
like we need body fat, let's getrid of as much as we physically
possibly can while stilltechnically being alive.
Like we would die 100 if westayed there.
But like let's dip into thatfor like a day and it's and, and
(06:00):
let's get oiled up and get onstage again.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
I like bodybuilding don't get me wrong.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
I enjoy it, but it's like, hey, why don't you put on
as much fake bronzer as ever hasbeen put on before 1960?
On all people on me just rightnow, and let's see how this goes
.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Totally, say no more and then be judged on your body
for five minutes.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Yeah, people will stare at me as closely as
possible and judge every aspectof my body.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Where do I sign up?
It's pretty mentally, honestlylike it's so weird.
Yeah, it is.
It's an interesting sport.
I will say that I learned a lotof discipline from it.
However, the whole thing ofwhat you just explained is not
worth it.
You're doing it for literallysix, seven months and then all
(06:48):
of a sudden, 24 hours.
Basically your hard work goesout the door Because as soon as
you're done competing, you wantto eat all the things, because
you just restricted yourself forso long and you basically
gained back like 15 pounds.
I gained back 25 pounds in onemonth after my competition.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Wow, what did you go to?
What did you go to after?
Your body like 15 pounds.
I gained back 25 pounds in onemonth after my competition.
So, yeah, what was your?
What did you go to?
What did you go to after?
You're like, I'm going todomino's and every cinnastick in
that place is going down thehatch.
Those were my jams cinnasticksyour mind was shake shack yeah,
that's the fries.
Oh, I'm you.
Fries are one of the bestthings on this planet.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Heck yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
I don't know.
I'm picturing Liam just loadingup like a Pringles can with
Oreos and just shooting themdown Oreos.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
I feel like I could.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
There's something about like salty snacks that you
can go overboard easier.
For me, right Like the sweetstuff.
That's true, eventually, thesweet is like okay, I'm over the
sweet thing.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
But like salty fries.
But, liam, you get addicted tosugar.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Come on, I know the addicted to sugar thing.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
You can't be tired of sugar.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
I would love someone to All in moderation right.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
If someone was actually addicted to sugar,
could you imagine?
You go to the grocery store,you walk down there oh, let me
pick up and there's just like aguy with a spoon his mouth like
I can't stop.
Please someone help me.
I have never seen that and Idon't think I ever will, but
somehow we're all completelyaddicted to sugar because of a
study in rats like a decade agoor something.
(08:14):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Yeah, type of correlation to like matching
cocaine or the effects ofcocaine on the brain or
something like that yeah, it'salways.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
I'm gonna tell you like, when it comes to like
drugs and like in rats and stufflike that, it's, it's crazy.
They're like oh, they likeheroin, they like sugar more
than heroin.
It's like they're locking thesepeople like these not people,
these are these rats into likethere's nothing with them.
They have no rat friends.
There's no rat buddies, there'snothing with them, and they're
just bored.
They'll just like eat whateveryou put in front of them.
So, yeah, they're just gonna belike well, get me the fuck out
(08:44):
of here.
I got nothing else to do, I'mjust gonna eat pounds of sugar.
That's my, that's my rant onthat, yeah yeah, that's.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
That pretty much sums up the study.
So yeah, you're not addicted tosugar, but yeah, sugar makes
things taste good, no shit.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
So that's why yeah, after if I did bodybuilding,
yeah, I would be like I think.
I think I would go with friesand burgers.
Good, milkshake and fries,that's the way to go.
You take the fries, you putthem in the milkshake and that
way you get them both.
It's a salty and a sweet.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Yeah, it's like the Wendy's.
The Wendy's milkshakes and thefries are the best.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Game changer.
See, I'm a fish and chips guy.
I would just have a stack offish this high, a stack of fries
this high.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
No fries this high.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
No, yeah, I'm with you on this.
Yeah, the fried fish?
Speaker 2 (09:24):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
It's like I'm clapping.
Yeah well, you probably likebananas.
That must be a Canada thing.
A Canada thing I think well,it's a Britain thing because
they're not allowed to haveseasoning.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
England doesn't allow to have any food that tastes
good, so they just like fry itto make it palatable.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
See, I'm half Canadian, half British, so the
British side wants the fish andchips, the Canadian side wants
some poutine, so you get fishand poutine.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
I'm saying no to all that.
So anyway, nikki, I'm kind ofcurious because it always
whenever I talk with women, I'mcurious what you see in the
barriers for women into intolifting weights and get it.
Because you know we always seethe thing like, oh, I don't want
to get bulky, and I'm alwaysjust like, oh, boy that was
exactly so I'm sure that's one,but give us, like you know, give
(10:15):
us a little rundown of thatsort of genre the first thing
that popped into my head was Idon't want to get too bulky.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
And it's hilarious.
There's's a clip on myInstagram, there's a reel where
I made of me like, say, liketalking to women that think
they're going to get too bulky,and it's like I'm talking to a
wall because like it's notpossible for that to happen in,
in women at least, we don't have, unless we're taking, you know,
the steroids and stuff.
But like women don't have asmuch testosterone as women as
(10:43):
men do, so we're not going toget as big and bulky as men do.
And then there's another onewhere they think that carbs make
them fat.
It just like blows my mind.
I hate that one because carbsare so good, and especially if
people are going for the goal ofwanting to be more toned and
wanting to build more muscle,they have to incorporate eating
carbs, because carbs give themthat strength inside of the gym
(11:05):
and every carb that you eatturns into glycogen and then
glycogen just holds on to morewater weight.
So that's what they're seeingon the scale, but it's not
actually fat.
So we need to make like hashtagcarbs.
Make carbs great again, becausethat needs to happen.
Do you think?
Speaker 2 (11:20):
it's more.
Do you find that's moreprominent with women?
Because I think the carbs makeyou fat is sort of a general
thing, Like it's.
We're moving that because wehave to either demonize one fats
or carbs, Like that's it.
We have to have a boogeyman andwe're more in the stage of fats
are the most amazing thing everand carbs now will give you all
the cancers.
But what you know, is it morecommon with women that you see
that they think carbs are goingto make them fat?
Speaker 3 (11:42):
women that you see that they think carbs are going
to make them fat.
I mean, I talk to women all daylong, so that's just my.
I feel like that's what theysay all of the time.
Then they come into ourcommunity and they're talking
about that.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
I think it's women also.
You know, studies have shownthey're more likely to have
disordered eating patterns.
At least women are what?
Three times or something morelikely to have eating disorders.
I think that's a lot of thepressure that's put on them.
So they probably just face morepressure from kind of the quote
unquote, diet culture orwhatever you want to say.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Oh a hundred percent the marketing that they grew up
with Jenny Craig, weightWatchers, like all of those
things.
They just like brain and thenthe parents that they grew up
with.
If their parents were on a dietafter diet.
They've been ingrained withthese concepts in their brain
and these narratives and thesestories and it it totally can
lead to those avenues ofdisordered eating or disordered
thought processes around it.
(12:28):
So, yeah, it's, but there's thethey.
They hear things on socialmedia.
If there are people are sayingcars make them fat, then they
think it's going to make themfat.
But what I love to do is belike do what evidence do you
have to support that?
Because, like, you know what Ido, what I like to, like what I
coach and be a coach.
I'm like in my profession it'snot to make you fat.
Like I would be doing adisservice if I was making
(12:51):
somebody fat.
Right, they were coming to measking for help and then they
turned out to be fat.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
So like, it's-, you would be the worst coach ever,
ever yeah.
Unless you were actually tryingto coach them to be fat, which
is you're doing a pretty goodjob, yeah.
So I feel like women are moretargeted by that you need to
lose fat stuff, and so they'remore likely to get or see that
(13:15):
carbs make you fat thing,whereas I think men are more
targeted by the uh, the toxicmasculine.
Gotta go carnivore, got to eatmeat stuff.
A lot of men avoid carbs, butit's not because of carbs making
you fat.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
It's because carbs are bad, because they're not
meat.
Yeah, I don't know.
There's a ton of shit out therethat says all the things you
just got to keep it back to thebasics.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Yeah, I just wanted to go back to the thing I see,
yes is um, um, weightliftingmakes you bulky, which is it's,
it's, it's, it's hilariousbecause there's, like there's so
many men that are trying to getbulky and failing, like it's
just it's difficult for them,it's really not gonna happen for
you.
And the thing is like you dosee, like the uh, like kind of
open bodybuilding competitionswhere women do take excessive
(14:05):
amounts of exogenous hormones,you know, testosterone, all that
and they can get bulky.
And then women see that and arelike, oh, I'll end up like that
if I pick up this pink dumbbell.
And it's like you know,weightlifting is so great for
anybody, like you know strengthtraining, especially as you get
older, we see more and more howimportant it is.
So, don't worry about that, Likeit's just such a silly thing to
(14:25):
worry about.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
How long did it take you to actually put on a decent
amount of muscle?
Speaker 3 (14:31):
dude like five, maybe five years yeah, it made it
where I wanted to be.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Like I'm nine, ten years into the journey, it
didn't happen overnight yeah, alot of people think it goes on
faster than it actually does andthat overnight they're suddenly
going to become this gigantic,manly looking and I don't even
want to say manly looking,because like that's, that's not
(14:56):
right either.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Look at the liver king, like it was mr turtle
shell.
Oh, I love the.
He said he's terrible, but Ilove the liver king at least
he's entertaining.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Yeah, he's very entertaining, he's very
entertaining.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
I love to see the mr turtle there, like you see he's
just got this.
You know it's like, uh, oh man,like back in the day you go to
like the, the.
You know we don't do themanymore, but the freak shows,
quote, unquote, that's that thathe would be, he would, he would
sell out, it would be so good.
So what do you like?
I'm kind of, what would yourecommend for, uh, women?
(15:30):
Kind of, just like they'reinterested, right, okay, so they
don't really know what they'redoing.
They they're interested inlifting some weights.
You know where did they start?
Like what's a good place tostart?
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Well, they want to start lifting weights.
What I would say is to get themout of the cardio room and off
of the treadmills, and off theellipticals and the stepmaster.
Wait, hold on.
No, no, no, because cardioburns more fat.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
So they have to do cardio.
So that's so, you know,obviously debunked immediately.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
I know I'm allowing you to go forward with this
thought process.
Yeah, the more muscle you haveto your body, it increases your
BMI or your BMR, naturally.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
I mean it does increase your BM it does
increase your BMI.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Technically I'm obese , so when I go into a doctor's
office that shit is so whack.
I mean it does increase yourbmi and your bm.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
I increase all the b's, don't worry about.
So what we're talking abouthere is your bmr, so basically
calories you burn during the day, just existing and, and you
know, lean tissue.
So muscle is very active, soit's going to require you to eat
more calories to fuel it.
So building muscle is a goodidea if you're trying to lose
(16:44):
some fat.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Exactly, amen, thank you, you just said it perfectly.
And then to go back to thestrength training thing, if you
want to go strength train, Iwould say first it's the big
fear of getting over the thoughtprocess that when you walk into
the weight room, everybody islooking at you Like there's
every woman is so afraid to walkin there and they have this
thought process that that peopleare watching how they're
(17:07):
working out or watching howthey're doing their form or
whatever.
They're just nervous to go dothat, to walk into the weight
room.
So I would say definitely likenobody.
Nobody's concerned about whatyou're doing, they're only
concerned about how they lookand what they're doing, um.
And then the second thing is Iwould say is uh, if you've never
lifted a weight before,definitely don't go in and go
ham like.
(17:28):
Have a plan, have a plan tofollow, um, because it could
first of all I'm thinking aboutlike injuries and then it can
just be hard on the body and allthat stuff.
So you got to take it light andeasy to begin with.
Maybe it's like a couple ofdays in your first week or two
weeks, um, and you're gettingcomfortable with following the
plan and doing that.
And I would say study, exercisevideo so that you can feel more
(17:50):
confident.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Do you have any outlets on that that you
recommend Enjoy just somethingfor people to go look towards,
anything.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
Totally as far as creating a plan.
Yeah, you can go to WarriorBabe.
You can check outwarriorbabecom.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
There you go.
You can shake with your ownstuff.
That's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
There you go there we go yeah, you can definitely do
that.
If you don't want to thinkabout putting together a plan,
you can support you in doingthat.
We have a team of 66 coaches,so they all work individually
with their own clients and theywill make the plan for you and
they'll guide you along the wayso that you feel confident with
the plan to go after.
But yeah, if you want to startstrength training, I would say,
(18:26):
just start trying it and startdoing it and have the mentors,
have the people to support youalong the way.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
And I think it's.
I think it's tough people ingeneral I mean for women for
sure but all people is just likeyou want to go all in or not,
and that's kind of getting away.
We talk about this a lot onthis podcast getting away from
the all or nothing mentality.
So like you're going to go andI'm going to do an hour of
weightlifting, you don't need todo that, there's no.
When you're starting off,you'll gain muscle from looking
at weights.
So you just need to get inthere and do and start with
(18:56):
something.
You know.
10 minutes, 15 minutes is fine.
Hey, you usually do 30 minuteson the elliptical.
Make it 15, do 15 minutes ofweightlifting, just balance it
out.
You know you don't have to.
Like she said, you don't haveto go crazy.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
A little bit is better than nothing.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Yeah, I'm thinking about when I first started my
journey, what I did.
It's like I didn't know what todo.
I was spending so much time onPinterest looking at like back
workouts and trying to followlike those types of things, and
until I wasn't seeing the typeof results that I wanted,
because I didn't feel like I wasdoing it the right way, I
finally hired somebody that knewwhat to do and then they put
(19:31):
together the plan for me, theyput together the guidance, so I
didn't have to think about itand waste more time.
I wanted to get to my resultsfaster.
So, um and yeah, and then I.
Then I found out I was doingthings wrong.
To what your point was like youdon't have to spend an hour
inside the gym.
My workouts were like 40, 45minutes max.
Um, when I first started, whenwe got into the world of
bodybuilding which is stupid,ridiculous I was inside the gym
(19:52):
fucking seven days a week.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Uh, doing cardio for two, three hours a day my first
meal of tuna fish and rice in mycontainer.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
Let me just pop that up don't, you want any seasoning
.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
What's seasoning?
Speaker 3 (20:05):
I don't understand b eat spoon with ma I used to
travel with my food on the planeand had to put it in a plastic
bag and eat fish and tilapia ona plane.
Like who does that?
Speaker 2 (20:17):
that's, yeah, I mean when you look at when let's say
okay, listen in the venn diagramthe venn diagram I think that's
right where there's the circlesyou got like disordered eating
and you got bodybuilding.
There's a big overlap there.
I'm telling you what thosecircles come together hard
non-overlap.
Yeah, like, if you just asked acompetitive bodybuilder like a
disorder, eating disorderquestionnaire, there would be a
(20:38):
lot of fucking yeses.
I'm telling you that, like, howoften do you think about your
diet?
You know, like all the you know, do you eat tilapia on a plane
out of a bag?
Yes, of course I do otherpeople, don't you know?
Speaker 3 (20:51):
yeah, facts, yeah, 100.
I had a pot.
I made a podcast of how I washospitalized because of the
restrictive eating.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
Oh man and I think a lot of people see that and then
that makes them a little timidabout you know into getting into
the weightlifting, like that isjust it's, it's, it's a sport,
it's a, it's a beautycompetition.
So I think, and like to yourpoint earlier, it is especially
tough for women like you getinto like the weightlifting area
where it's all dudes that arejust sweaty and gross Right and
(21:20):
it's they're all just likestringers and like you're and
it's to be the only female there, like that's gotta be kind of
tough, like I understand that.
But like I'm telling you, thepeople that I meet at the gym
are just like the most nicewelcoming.
Um, you know you're gonna getyour d-bags, like it's gonna
happen.
It's like that's life, that'severywhere you go.
But seriously, people the gymhave been just so like hey,
(21:42):
you're doing awesome, like justcompliments, I anywhere, if I
could go anywhere, it just totry and then have to try and
receive a couple.
But basically most of thecomments I've ever compliments
I've ever received, they've beenin the gym.
That's where people I find yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
And then talking about the people that might be
looking at you, chances arethey're looking at you to see if
you're looking at them becausethey're nervous that you're
looking at them.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
It's like two people.
They're like don't look at me.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
No, let me go hide.
Yeah, it's so, and a lot oftime they're maybe looking at
you because they don't know whatthey're doing.
So they're trying to figure outlike you're doing, how you're
doing it, so like I know it'stough.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
There's quite a few people come over to me and ask
me about the exercise that I'mdoing because they were
interested about it.
They asked me you know how todo certain things and you can do
that.
There's lots of people in thegym.
You can go talk to, ask themquestions.
They are happy to help you.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
Yeah, totally A hundred percent.
What I would say, though, tothat back to that point was with
, like, when people are lookingat you in the gym, what I did at
the beginning if there'sanything that wants to help
people with that type of mindsetI used to walk in with a hat.
I used to just put a hat on and, like, put like, it acted as if
it was like my blinders, so Icouldn't see anybody around me
and I couldn't, like payattention to anybody that was
(22:57):
around me.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
I couldn't see that if they can't see me exactly, if
they can't see me, I can'tleave.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Yeah, you know, it works.
It fucking worked.
It was nice.
So people in one.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
You always kind of have to find what works for you
because, yeah, like everybody is, is so different.
But man, yeah, I'll, I'll tellyou just and find, go go to a
gym, spend a few minutes and,just you know, find some good
music.
I always think good music, orsomething you enjoy listening to
while you're there, is alwayshelpful.
Um, trying new things too aswell, like it's always it's
(23:29):
about trying new things, Uh, but, like the question I always
like to ask for people likeyourself who are, like you know,
coach who does?
Who does coaching?
You know, what are some thingsthat you have seen from your
clients?
What are?
I always forget how I phrasethis, Rob, but I'm going to, I'm
going to figure it out, it'stotally fine.
What are some?
What are some collective thingsthat that all the successful
(23:52):
people in your experience too.
So, like you know, I'm sureyou've seen there's gotta be
trends with people like thepeople who achieve the things
they set out to do have somesimilar traits Like what are
maybe a you know a few traitsthat you've seen.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
Yeah, that's a great question.
I love the book Atomic Habitsby James Clear, where he talks
about the winner's mentality andthe loser's mentality, the
winner's mentality, the onesthat, like literally, these two
people have the same goals, theywant to achieve the same things
.
Right, but it's the um, it'sthe winners that you know that
actually.
So it can't be the goals thatare the same thing, right, or it
(24:26):
can't be the goals that are thedifferentiator between the same
goals.
Right, the same goal.
So it's the systems.
It's the systems that they putinto place and it's it's like
drinking their water.
It's the systems that they putinto place and it's it's like
drinking their water.
It's doing their workout, it'stracking their macros or
whatever nutrition plan they'refollowing.
It's consistently doing thosethings over a period of time and
uh and following through on it.
(24:47):
So the biggest thing that'ssuccessful people that I see
that are successful and are thewinners are the consistency and
like actually doing, like thething that they said they're
going to do and follow throughon it.
Like you know, it could be threemonths into a program and maybe
a person is wondering why, likethey, two people start at the
same time, right, and they'reworking with the same coach and
(25:09):
one three months in, thisperson's getting awesome results
and they're similar body typelike, similar lifestyle, similar
, similar, similar, like all ofthe things, cause there's a vast
like.
There's so many differentpeople and so many individual
people.
But let's just say that, forthe context of the story,
there's one person that is alittle bit further along with
the progress that they're seeing, and the other one's wondering
(25:29):
why they're not seeing as muchprogress.
And when you ask the questionsand you dive deeper and you try
and you know formulate why oneis further ahead than the other.
It's because the other one'sbeen super consistent and they
follow through on the plan.
They've done the workouts youknow, the five out of five times
in a week and if there's been aspeed bump along the way, they
didn't allow that speed bump toget in their way.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Yeah, that's what I wanted to get out, because that
is what we see so often.
People start off usually prettywell, like when they start
something, they're sticking toit for a few days, a week, a
couple weeks, whatever it is,but it's always that first call
it failure, I guess.
Whatever it is, you call itspeed bump, whatever you want to
call it that people just like,ah, fuck it, it's always that
(26:12):
it's always like yeah, whateverI did, this it's over.
And getting out of that, I find,is one of the most difficult
things for people.
And I don't know, I don't havethe exact answer, how to get out
of that.
But boy, you just have torealize, like one small slip up
mistake, whatever isn't going toruin your whole journey, like
it's, it's such it's essentially, essentially meaningless in the
(26:36):
context of your whole fitnessjourney that one mistake it's
just, that turns into, you know,the whole week, the whole month
or whatever it is.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
Well, you know you I don't know if you talked about
this on the podcast before, butyou talked about it at some
point um, how you never worryabout any of the mistakes you
make because you compare it tothe people who had the chance to
buy Netflix.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Was it Best Buy?
That's the best.
Best Buy could have boughtNetflix not once, but twice, and
they turned them down, and soyou got to just think about the
people who made horribledecisions in life, and then you
feel better.
So compare yourself to terriblepeople and you will feel better
.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
That is the message of this entire podcast.
Good night everyone.
Have a swell day best bye.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Compare yourself to the worst decisions in human
history and you will feel somuch better about yourself and
your than the poor decision thatyou made facts.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
There was a different put on my story, though.
Today it's along these lines um, it was a quote by michael
jordan.
When a child is learning how towalk and falls down 50 times,
they never think to themselves.
Maybe this ain't for me I likethat just pick it back up.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Thomas edison.
He's like I didn't fail 500times to make the light bulb.
I just found out 500 ways tonot make a light bulb.
Now, thomas edison was a shittyass person.
He was like he stole everythingand he was terrible.
May he rot in his grave.
But like that's a good quote,that's a solid quote.
They can still the bad ones canstill have some good ones.
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
A hundred percent.
Yeah, a hundred percent.
If you experience a failurealong the way, just get right
back up and continue on failurealong the way.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Just get right back up and continue on so I
conveniently had this text froma friend this morning damn, I
could have bought netflix and Ididn't do it.
Why did I not?
Speaker 1 (28:19):
that's exactly what this text is.
How did you know?
Um, it's from a female friendof mine.
So I've been lifting weightsconsistently with a trainer
since october.
Barely any noticeable muscle.
My friend, one month doing somestupid beach body instant
muscle.
Is this genetics?
This isn't fair this isn't fairI like literally don't know
(28:45):
what to say to that like there's, there's a lot that uh could go
into that.
Like maybe it, maybe thetrainer is just not a good
trainer, um first, yeah, firststart with maybe fire.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
Thank gosh, you fired the trainer I mean, there is
that then but I mean, there'sdefinitely a genetic component
to it.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
There are people that we all hate, these people right
.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
Okay, we all have those friends.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
Like I have a friend from high school who just like,
just got jacked from nothing.
Like I hate, I think he's agood person.
Hate him, hate his guts, hateeverything about him, cause it's
not fair.
Like you look at those peopleand you're like, why it can be?
Like I'm just, I'm just tryingto sympathize with people
(29:30):
because we all know that fuckingperson we'll call him chad
chad's a dick chad might be anice such a dick chad might be a
nice person.
We hate chad, we all hate chadbecause and even chad, like,
understands it, like I thinkthey get it.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
They're like this is women and their husbands.
They hate when their husbandsare able to lose a 10 pounds in
like three weeks.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Yeah and it's 100% true.
Because men have a higher likegen on average, men have a
higher caloric.
You know requirement right.
So if they cut out, if you bothcut out one thing, they're
probably gonna lose the malesprobably gonna lose more weight
and that and that fucking suckslike and it's frustrating to see
.
We see that and we're like,damn, why can't I have it like
that?
But you, at the end of the day,genetics does place just a
(30:11):
massive component with it.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
And you have to.
It's true that some people havemore androgen receptors.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
And there's I mean there's definitely that and you
have to, and I know it's.
People have heard this fuckingcountless times, but I'm gonna
tell you again because I can.
It's my fucking podcast.
I can do whatever I want withthis okay and I can also swear.
To all you people saying Ishould stop swearing.
I'll do what the fuck I want.
Speaker 1 (30:31):
You have fans that tell you to swear more though so
yeah, yeah, those are myfucking buddies right there.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
I get that all the time it'll ever stop.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
I'm not, so I can do.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
What I want, and what I want to do is tell you to
goddamn compare yourself to you,because I know we've all heard
that, but, man, you compareyourself to other people.
You're just it's never.
It's never good, it's nevergood.
You see people on instagram.
It's all fucking lighting andgenetics and posing and this,
and that, if you compareyourself to you, though, you you
know, you lost five pounds, youcan go longer on the treadmill,
you can, you feel better,whatever it is, those small
(31:03):
things will keep you going morethan you know.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Whatever fucking thing you're comparing yourself
to, which is stupid anyway andanother thing is if you don't
know how much muscle thatperson's put on in the past, if
they put on muscle and then theylost some muscle, it's easier
for them to put the muscle backon again that's an actual thing.
But also shout out to leondogwood, who's the one that told
you to swear more all my, myswearing buddies, yeah, no see,
(31:30):
that's my plan.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Listen, I'm gonna take pictures right now and then
I'm just gonna get like I'mjust gonna gain a ton of weight,
and then I'm gonna do beforeand after and reverse them dude,
I thought about doing thattoday because you could, you
could easily look at the beforeand after.
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Come on and you just swap them.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
That's easy it's so easy to gain.
I just gained the weight boomand then everybody signs up.
Problem solved.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
Oh wait, I thought about something completely
different when you were sayingthat Never mind.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Well, we've all thought about this at one time.
That's what's important.
We all thought about scammingpeople and how easy it would be.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
You need to think of those things.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
We think about that every single episode.
We think about that everysingle episode, and how we can
scam people out of money and howmuch money we could make.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Yep, somebody could literally listen to this podcast
and learn everything there isto know about scamming people.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Welcome back to InScameration.
Get your pens and pencils out,because this is how you're going
to take others' money.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
Now it's reversing your before and after photos.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
We got the supplements.
Reverse your before and afterphotos.
We got the supplements.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
reverse your before and after Nothing worse than I
saw on Instagram somebodycalling out somebody else for
Photoshopping and totally likechanging the way the weights
were in the photo and then likebringing in the waistline and
stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
There's so much of that If you don't know, like I'm
telling you there there's somuch photo videos can be pretty
edited pretty well.
Now, like it's.
It's crazy, so you can't trust,like anything you say fucking
ai's taking over.
Speaker 3 (32:58):
We're all screwed.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
We're all screwed.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
I mean i's taking over, okay I I've made bobby do
an entire sitcom episode.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Moral of the story hope is lost, give up.
That's an entire sitcom episode.
Moral of the story hope is lost, give up.
That's.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
I gotta tell you guys , this is the most interesting
fucking podcast I've ever beenon.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
This is what we do.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
That means we're doing our job.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
We swear and we yell at our listeners.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
This is what we do.
You know that's great guys.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Sometimes people need a little bit of the David
Goggins.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
That was me on my Instagram story today.
If you guys go check it out,I'm yelling at the fact that
fucking Ozempic and theseinjectables.
I got a text today fromactually a company that I really
respect and it was the factthat they are launching their
weight loss program.
It's here, it's launching theirweight management program and
(33:57):
you can now book in yourconsultation and it's fucking
semi-glutatide and a bunch ofother injections on their PDF
and they Is there some big likelose this much weight in this
amount of time?
Weight loss Weight loss Backedby science.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
Backed by science.
Smart, that's smart.
There we go See.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
now we're learning.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
See, this is where we learn the good shit, how we
fucking scam people.
What else we got?
How else are we scamming people?
Let me know, yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
So it was me screaming on my Instagram
because, like the two things onthere is, it stabilizes blood
sugar and it curbs your cravings.
I was like guess what people?
Guess what else fucking doesFucking protein?
Eat your protein in a day.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
I would add boost metabolism in there as well.
I think that's important to addbecause that's like a big
people love that.
So yeah, I would just add thaton top.
That's pretty good.
That's pretty good.
I give him a nine out of ten.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
This is so mad, I'm raging, oh it's fucking
infuriating.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
That's why I yell so much on this podcast.
I mean, there's a lot ofreasons I yell.
But that's one of the reasons Iyell so much.
Yeah, true story, and I thinkpeople sympathize because we're
all just fucking angry, likeevery single one of us is just
fucking mad.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
Like we just reach that point where you've learned
that all of this stuff isscamming.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
All of these things are are players on words to here
like how is the fitnessindustry still here?
Like, how are we still like?
Speaker 2 (35:20):
because it fucking works well, yeah, because that's
why it's still here facts andit's so infuriating for us
because we see it.
We're like, ok, it does thething you're saying works,
doesn't work, but what you aredoing in scamming people 100
percent works and you just don'tgive a shit.
So it's just frustrating foranyone else who just like who
(35:41):
sees this and understands.
You just want to scream and youjust want to scream, and so
either you scream into a pillowor you make a podcast, like I
did, and you yell at yourlisteners and that is all you
can do.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
People stop fucking listening to those assholes
Moving on here for it.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
How are you doing, Rob?
What's going on?
Speaker 1 (36:03):
I'm not being my worst, Liam.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
And we're not our worst, and that's what's
important.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Small steps.
Don't be your, your worst.
And that's your introduction toliam's ranting fucking.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
It's one step at a time.
You oh you made a misstep oh,it's a bad week now fuck that
shit it's once.
It's one mistake.
Who gives a shit, it doesn'tmatter anyway you know I love
your content, Liam.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
Your content's great.
I'm waiting for the K-bye.
Do you say that at the end?
Speaker 2 (36:33):
of the podcast K-bye.
All I want to do in my videosis just yell at people like you
know what you have to do.
It's not complicated.
Stop listening to people thatsay eat raw testicles.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
No, that's not the answer.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
I know you are asking me is this is real?
Speaker 3 (36:50):
no, it's not real, you know it's not real k bye k
bye.
What got me so mad about that?
Because he's eating rawtesticles, saying that's the way
that the way to the way to goto get the results yet didn't
come out until, like what, ayear later, about him taking the
drugs or people take anyonewith two eyeballs no, anybody
(37:11):
with one eyeball fucking knewthat dude was on every drug.
No, kidding I knew I called itand then my friends were like no
way and I was like dude ahundred percent, a hundred
percent, it totally is.
And then I was like, when itcame out, I was like told you so
, told you so, fucking, told youso Of course he is.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
He looks like a fucking mutant, obviously.
How do you not know?
But no, it's the primallifestyle, bro.
You just need to wake up andfucking sun your taint and then
go eat as many raw testicles asyour stomach can fit.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
I saw that on your content.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
For the listeners that somehow don't know what
he's talking about.
He's talking about Liver Kingagain.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
Liver King Again entertaining, fun to watch
complete.
I don't know a jester.
He's a jester in the 21stcentury.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
Let's all go to Utah School after this.
That's my assessment.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
So what's your guys' week been like?
Speaker 2 (38:12):
How you doing.
Speaker 1 (38:14):
Well, I mean, we did play a lot of Baldur's Gate.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
Man, that game's fun.
See and see you work out andthen you play video games.
Speaker 1 (38:23):
That's the way you go .
Speaker 3 (38:25):
I just bought an Xbox , my first Xbox ever.
There you go See.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
Now you can come play Baldur's Gate with us.
You got to play.
I'm pretty sure it'scross-border, you have to rest
in order to build muscle.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
We don't build muscle in the gym, right we?
Break down muscle in the gymand we build it playing Baldur's
Gate sitting on our butts.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
This is what we do Doing critical BDSM sessions.
Bdsm sessions, What'd you say?
Speaker 2 (38:47):
Nikki.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
Rob's yelling at me.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
Why does Rob always yell on this podcast.
Shut up.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
You burn calories while you're doing it.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
You go, you well.
You burn calories while you'reyelling.
No, you work out, and then youcome and you relax and that is
where you repair Okay, and it'severything in moderation.
You work out, you eat healthyfood most not healthy.
You eat nutritious food most ofthe time, and then you enjoy
your doritos while playingbalder's gate.
And, yes, it gets your keyboarda little dorito-y, but you can
(39:19):
clean that, it's fine I thinkit's absolutely hilarious.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
sometimes in the lives you get the comments from
people that are like why are youplaying video games?
To have a little fun?
I'm sorry People are trolls.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
Oh God.
And it's always fun, isn't itfun?
That the trolls always stick upfor the people scamming people
in the fucking oh yeah, it's thebest Like they've bought fully
into.
They're the ones that boughtinto the like Liver King and
shit, and you're just like whatis life?
Speaker 1 (39:49):
What is going on?
Those are the ones thatactually thought liver king was
natural.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
Yeah, what's happened ?
Where did we go wrong?
Anyway, I guess we shouldprobably get back to telling
people like what they canactually do to help themselves.
That's probably good 40 minutesin moderation.
Track your macros, eat right,work out do video games, the
(40:17):
things you know you need to do,you already know them.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
Yeah, exactly but um one thing you do talk about is
uh post perimenopausal stuff Ithink that's important yeah yeah
, and that's something that liamand I obviously have no idea
about, not an expert.
Speaker 3 (40:37):
No, I've personally never gone through it, but I I
share a bunch of, I mean, theeducation background was I went
to nursing school and so I haveall of that insight.
Um worked in the field for nineyears.
But yeah, I mean, our communityis all full of women that are
pre-post-menopause, goingthrough it, and I think one of
the most important things thatthis demographic can be doing is
(40:58):
strength training because atthe age of which this happens,
their estrogen drops, all thehormones are shifting internally
, their bone density is gettingweaker, Osteoporosis is a real
thing Later on in life.
I remember, when I worked inthe ER, the amount of like
fractures and hip fractures ofolder women that I would see
coming in.
(41:18):
I'm like man you can tell.
You can look at somebody youcan realize that they probably
never worked out a day in theirlife before.
And so I think you know juststressing the fact that those
women that are in that age groupshould be in the world of
strength training.
And I'm not talking about, likeyou know, boot camps and like
F45 and like Orange Theory.
I'm talking like actuallyputting the resistance on the
(41:40):
body to make the bones, to makethe muscles stronger.
That in turn make the bonesstronger.
Speaker 1 (41:44):
But that's going to make me look like a man, I think
.
Speaker 2 (41:48):
Well, especially at that age age, it definitely
ain't because hormones aredefinitely not there, 100, so
and for you know, for women inthat age range, like you know,
you really don't need a lot ofweight.
You can easily work out at home.
I know a lot of people arestill just against the gym.
If you can just buy some simpleweights bands, you know just
yeah, a good set of resistancebands.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
You could get like 50 bucks I know, they will take
you a far way 100 you could dotempo work.
Speaker 3 (42:14):
You could slow down the movement.
Like you could put more timeunder tension to really create
the burn, like all that you look, you can look up.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
Youtube is.
I don't know if you've everheard of it.
It's a place they got lots ofvideos.
There's at least 10 of them, Idon't know and you just
moderation on?
Speaker 1 (42:28):
I think people should look up in moderation on
YouTube.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
Hey, don't plug our podcast during our podcast idiot
, great plug, listen, look up,look up.
You know resistance bandsworkouts like, and there's a
kajillion billion of them andyou can just buy yourself some
simple bands.
That's how you plug.
You can look up, up worry, butyeah, exactly, I love it and you
(42:54):
know, and you can work out athome, listen to your own music,
listen to whatever you like tolisten to, and you know you're
in the privacy of your own home.
Just, something is alwaysbetter than nothing.
Doing that, what two, threetimes a week for 20 minutes,
like I'm pretty sure most peoplecan find, at least that you
know, you don't even have totravel.
Speaker 1 (43:14):
Now we got cozy bulking, call cozy bulk.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
I don't know if I'm on the with cozy cozy building
cozy come true.
Speaker 1 (43:22):
So we need the alliteration.
Speaker 2 (43:34):
Okay, relaxed, resistant no.
Speaker 3 (43:40):
We're going to workshop this.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
We're going to come back to this at some point, but
just in your own home and havingthat for a lot of people they
just feel more comfortable.
So that's A-OK Facts.
Speaker 1 (43:53):
Now we're all chill.
We've gotten it all out of oursystem.
Now is the zen moment Deepbreath the simple things man.
Speaker 3 (44:06):
I'm telling you, it's just the simple things, the
thing fix 100%.
Speaker 1 (44:09):
Is there anything that you wanted to talk about
while you were here?
Speaker 3 (44:13):
eat, lift, be nice to people and work hard.
Speaker 2 (44:24):
Again you go back to the simple things.
Speaker 3 (44:25):
That's all it is, people it's okay, get your steps
in steps in a day.
Speaker 2 (44:30):
People, that's really important get your steps in
drink your waters or your dietsoda, because, no, it's not
gonna give you all the cancers,it's fine I have another thing,
um my fridge.
Speaker 3 (44:40):
Right now it's there we go.
Speaker 1 (44:43):
Another thing, though , is that we should also
probably start encouragingyounger women to get into sports
and lifting more I mean yeah,totally, I think all like sports
.
Speaker 3 (44:54):
that's how I started my whole.
I played sports growing up,played basketball, field, hockey
, track, um, and that's whatgave me tons of, first of all,
structure routine and then youhad a coach telling you all the
things that you had to do, you,you had practice, you had to
show up to like, and you justfind, you find your, you find a
lot of confidence doing thatkind of stuff.
And then after that, the reasonwhy I got back to back into
(45:17):
bodybuilding is because afterthe sports college, life
happened and you have that likeweird error where you're trying
to like figure things out andlike learn life and I forgot
what the feeling was like havinga coach.
So, totally like, I thinksports at a young age gives you
a ton of a ton of a lot ofthings, a lot of things to learn
(45:39):
in life from, from being insports.
Yeah, lost my train of thoughtthere, but no, I think it's it's
it's great avenue.
Speaker 2 (45:46):
But for a lot of people, I think they get in this
mindset where they don't do anyof those, they don't do sports,
or, you know, at a younger age,and they're like, oh, it's just
kind of too late, you know,like I just never got into it,
so I'm not going to get into it.
Listen, I'll tell you what.
Until the age of 20, the onlytime I ever ran was by pressing
a, like I literally I didn't, Ididn't play any sports, I didn't
do anything athletic whatsoever.
(46:07):
And it wasn't until I was in mytwenties, really until I
started doing active things.
So like it, you know, andthere's people in their forties,
fifties doing it for theirfirst time.
That's fine, like, get into it,mess up learn.
That's what's important.
Speaker 1 (46:20):
But like I definitely seen a lot of um stuff, that
kind of uh, it's that speed bumpfor women to get or for young
girls to get into sports andstuff.
And like I don't know if youguys saw it, but I think it was
in Kentucky there was a girls'basketball team.
(46:41):
That was just.
It was a mixed league, so boysand girls playing, and this one
school had all girls on theirteam and they were absolutely
whooping the boys.
They went seven and one intheir league.
They were absolutely whoopingthe boys.
They went seven and one intheir league.
And then when it got time to dothe big competition at the end
of the season, the leagueactually banned them from
(47:08):
competing in that because theydidn't want the boys to lose to
girls.
Not even joking, that was theirreason.
Speaker 2 (47:13):
That's so great.
That's so great, that's sogreat.
Talk about fragile masculinityat its finest Right.
Speaker 1 (47:22):
Like these, girls were absolutely whooping the
boys teams.
Speaker 3 (47:27):
Wait, that's honestly smart, though here's how I'll
never lose.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
You can't play Boom.
Problem solved, yep.
Speaker 3 (47:34):
I would feel like that would almost fuck me up
even more if I was a boy.
Speaker 2 (47:39):
It's like they got handed it.
Don't worry about me, I'm justeating tofu over here because I
hurt, because the internet toldme, it'll give me man boobs
because they can't have thateither.
You can't have anything if youlisten to the internet.
Don't listen to any of theinternet, you won't be able to
eat any food In moderation 2024.
Speaker 1 (48:00):
Wow, well, I think you need to tell everybody where
to find you, obviously.
I mean, there's something aboutlike a warrior and a babe in
there somewhere.
Speaker 3 (48:10):
Yes, you guys, if you want what we talked about
earlier.
You know we heavily help womenin the age brackets of like 40
to 70 years old that arestruggling with learning how to
eat right.
Our North Stars macronutrientsare a macronutrient based
company, but like we're notgoing to, like you know, bring a
client in and be like yo, yougot to track protein, fats and
(48:30):
carbs right out the gate.
It ain't going to happen.
Talk about failure right there.
It out the gate, it ain't goingto happen.
Talk about failure right there.
So we'll help them learn aboutnutrition and we'll help you
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So, yeah, if you want all thatsupport along your fitness
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(48:51):
Check it out worrybabecom.
And you guys can find me onsocials at Nikki Stop, I spell
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It's N-I-K-K-I-E-Y and it's S-T, not C, my whole life.
Everyone says my last name isScott, but it's S-T-O-T-T.
And you guys can find me at theMacro Hour.
I have a podcast too as well.
So yeah, yeah, thanks.
Speaker 1 (49:12):
So what you're saying is you actually teach women to
not eat 1,000 calories that theycan actually eat more than that
.
Speaker 2 (49:19):
Facts yeah, the 1,200 calories, the 1,000 calories I
used to want to bash my headinto a wall.
Speaker 3 (49:25):
Yeah, every woman comes to us.
Speaker 2 (49:27):
I'd yell, but I'm done yelling, I'm out of it.
I got nothing left in the tank,Sorry guys.
Speaker 1 (49:31):
Bye.
I think that was the biggestrant you've had in a while.
Speaker 3 (49:37):
That was good, that was fun, I had a 60-year-old
eating almost 3,600 calories.
Wow, wow, yeah, it's fun stuff.
Speaker 2 (49:50):
That's what I eat, and I burn 2,000 calories a day,
yelling, which is crazy.
Only 2,000?
I mean, it depends on the day,obviously, when I'm bulking,
obviously, yeah.
Speaker 3 (50:01):
I feel like that rant here alone burnt 2,000 calories
.
Speaker 1 (50:07):
Liam's level of neat is up here.
Speaker 2 (50:11):
Yeah, pretty much, pretty much.
Speaker 3 (50:14):
I non-exercise the shit out of that activity
thermogenesis oh wow.
Speaker 1 (50:21):
Liam's introduced an entirely new categorization of
metabolism.
Speaker 2 (50:26):
It's yelling exercise activity thermogenesis,
Honestly there's so muchbullshit in the nutrition and
fitness world, I think I can getpeople on just getting mad.
Here's how you just get mad atum the world and then, like you,
just have to expel caloriesthrough anger.
Would that be good for yourpsyche?
(50:46):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (50:47):
There's only one way to find out well then I mean
everyone loves and it, and it'sbacked by science.
Speaker 3 (50:54):
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Speaker 2 (50:58):
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$24.99 a month.
There's three tiers Use mypromo code.
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You're like freakishly reallygood at that he's had a lot of
(51:19):
practice I've seen a lot ofthings and I've I could scam
anyone anywhere I wanted to.
Oh shit all right.
Well, liam sold over to thedark side I not yet, but I will
one day, when eventually I justrun out of energy.
Yeah, you're just gonna breakand heel turn hasn't happened
(51:42):
yet, but trust me, my friends,it will it will, it will yeah
what did you say heel turn heel,heel
turn you turn heel.
It's like when you go evil oh,I've never heard of that.
Speaker 3 (51:55):
It's like in a movie where someone turns heel they
become the villain at that pointoh yeah, I think it's.
Speaker 1 (52:00):
Did it originate with wrestling?
I know wrestling uses it a lot.
I think you're right.
Speaker 2 (52:04):
I think it started with like WWE, like you had the
heel turn so like you had awrestler who was like the good
guy and everyone's like, oh shit, he's a bad guy now.
Speaker 3 (52:13):
It's crazy yeah that's heel turn no, I just
learned something new.
Well, there's your fun fact ofthe day learning on in
moderation.
Good night.
Do you learn anything aboutnutrition?
Speaker 2 (52:22):
or fitness, no, but you learn terms wwe turns.
Speaker 1 (52:29):
Everyone have a nice day there it is, there we go.
End of podcast.
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