Strap in for a gut-busting journey through the twists and turns of gut health, as we're joined by the one-of-a-kind Gabrielle, also affectionately known as Gabes. She's not just any registered dietitian; she's the myth-busting hero your belly has been waiting for. Get ready to chuckle and learn as we tickle the truth out from the fibs about bloating, IBS, and the dreaded 'leaky gut syndrome'. Gabes is here to dish out the digestive deets with a side of laughs, ensuring you leave our chat with a belly full of knowledge – and maybe even a craving for peanut M&M's.
Fermentation fan or probiotic skeptic, our second course serves up a flavorful discussion on the benefits of bacteria, with a sprinkle of personal shopping anecdotes and a dash of kombucha love. We'll also simmer down the stress stew that's been boiling over in your gut by serving up simple, mindful eating tactics that could quiet the rumble in your tummy. And we'll pop the lid on the placebo effect—could your mind be the most potent ingredient in your nutrition?
To digest or not to digest gluten – that is the question we knead out in the final slice of our episode. Gabes rolls out the dough on the gluten-free craze, the carb conundrum, and the greens powder puzzle. We whisk away the fluff to reveal the hearty facts you need before you bite into the next big health trend. Send your gut health fairytales packing and tune in for an episode that's equal parts educational, entertaining, and unexpectedly enamored with the crunchy charm of peanut M&M's – because let's face it, they're the real MVPs.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey everybody, welcome to the podcast.
We've been sitting here for thepast 45 minutes, you know, with
technical issues, but we'reback on track.
We're in here.
Rob and I have just been kindof humming that song.
What's the name of that song,rob?
What was it?
You said it was Tom's diner,tom's diner.
Whatever you know, the Do it Doit Do it.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Do it.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Does anybody know the lyrics to that song?
Speaker 1 (00:20):
To the lyrics.
That because I don't know.
I feel like I know the lyricsbut I don't know the lyrics.
That song I've been sitting bya window with my coffee on the
table Like I don't know what itis.
But if you know what it is, putit in the comments, if there is
comments I don't know if wehave that.
Anyway, we're here on episode Idon't know 148 or whatever it
is we have.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
We're getting up there apparently according in
Liam's head anyway.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
It's all fucking over the place.
It's so bad.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Next episode will be like a thousand six hundred and
forty nine.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
And it'll go back down.
Now let's go back down to likefour.
All right, we have gaps on thistime.
Gabs, why don't you introduceyourself a little bit, because
we're not good at that, so youshould do it.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
OK, my name is Gabriel.
My nickname is Gables.
I'm a registered dietitian.
I've been a registereddietitian for like three years
and, yeah, I met both of them onTick Tock.
I like to debunk as well and Ilike to talk about good health
and everything too.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Yes, and that is what we're going to talk about today
.
Because, because, gables, I'mgoing to be honest with you.
I'm going to be 100 percenthonest with you when I'm on the
Tick Tock and I see somebody saythe Tick Tock when I see
somebody say, hey, I'm here tohelp out with gut health.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Literally every red flag like all the red flags Just
when you got to tag red flagguy in that it's.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
I just see that it's like the ceiling collapses from
the weight of all the red flags.
Yeah, because, like, at the endof the day, we don't really
understand so much about the gutmicrobiome.
So when people say they're likeI'm an expert in gut health,
I'm like bullshit you are.
But I actually have watchedyour stuff and I'm like, oh,
actually she does know somethings and that's awesome.
(01:58):
So I this episode, I definitelywant to talk about gut health
and the like actual, factual,actual factual.
God, I like that actual,factual information.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Yeah, I also just feel like that's what kind of
sucks for me.
I feel like gut health hasbecome something that I would
usually be like I'm not going tolisten to this because it's
just like a fad.
But in general it's just like Iwork with gastrointestinal
diseases but it's like Iunderstand the gut because of
that.
I just think people assume Godhealth is just like.
Oh, I'm not bloated anymorewhen it's like there's everybody
(02:34):
has IVS these days.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Yeah, it's so great, so, so OK.
So last time we with withShiloh last week, we talked a
lot about fiber.
We kind of hit the the toiletbowl with the plunger.
You know we weren't backed upwith information at all.
Everything just went throughother poop puns that I'm missing
I don't know 10 out of 10 pooppuns and poop puns you know,
well done the bat.
(02:56):
So we talked a lot about fiber,but I definitely want to, you
know, like talk about some ofthe other things that's
important, like was born withgut health, Rob.
Where do you think we shouldstart with the gut health?
What are you thinking?
Speaker 2 (03:07):
I don't know.
We could talk leaky gut, justlike leaky.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Everybody is always leaky gut.
Holy shit, Gables.
What the fuck is up with leakygut and why does everyone have
it?
Speaker 3 (03:18):
OK, I mean essentially they have it,
because essentially, leaky gutis just you have.
So we have good bacteria in ourgut and then we sometimes have
bad bacteria in our gut, andthat's what we are essentially
pooping out at the end of theday.
Leaky gut is essentially it'sbasically saying the bad gut
bacteria.
(03:38):
Instead of shitting it out orsweating it out, it's saying
where, where your good gutbacteria into us.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
They're like leaks into our bodies.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
I think that's kind of an obvious question Is where
does it leak into us or does itleak out the other?
Speaker 1 (03:55):
end, at least everywhere.
It's just leaky.
There's a sink with so manyholes.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Like I've learned about this a lot, but I also
know it's kind of like we're notquite like quite sure about
really the definition of it.
So I kind of just steered awayfrom saying people have leaky
gut, because I feel like you canjust say anyone has leaky gut.
And I just mean do you have thebad bacteria?
You have more bad bacteria thangood gut bacteria in your gut.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
It seems like one of those things where there's like
maybe some truth to it in a way,but people just take it and
blow it out of proportion, like,oh, gluten causes leaky gut
because people who have, youknow, celiac disease or whatever
gluten intolerance you knowthey have issues with it.
So everyone has issues.
That's what.
That's what I feel like it is.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Yeah, the.
I feel like it's definitely aterm that's medically it doesn't
really exist, Like it's justthis kind of weird symptom that
we haven't really defined, butin social media it's become one
of those fear mongering terms.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
It's something you yell about with your shirt off.
That's basically what leaky gutis, yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
Yeah, it's like um, so we eat foods.
There's a lot of toxins in ourfoods.
There's a lot of toxins,literally like right now like
breathing in toxins and leakygut.
Essentially is it's going intobloodstream, not staying in the
gut where you can peep it out.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Yeah, okay, so at least you got seems kind of
nebulous.
You know, whatever I want to goon to, you know I want to ask
about probiotics because I getasked about this a lot and from
what I've seen, like if incertain situations you know,
prescribed by your doctor, yadayada yada, it can be beneficial,
but like for everybody, should,should all of us right now just
(05:36):
be taking probiotics just likeevery day?
What's the deal?
What's going on?
Speaker 3 (05:40):
No, I think it's.
It's hard because there aresome like broad spectrum
probiotics that have things likeso, like yogurt has
lactobacillus andbisonobacterium those are like
the two common probiotics thatwe do want to have a good amount
in our gut Right.
So there are more like broadspectrum ones that are just
basic, so they're not reallygoing to do anything.
(06:00):
But there's also just likethousands of strains of
probiotics that all havedifferent purposes and, without
understanding what's going onwith your own gut microbiome,
just taking a random probioticmight not help you at all.
There's just so many differentstrains and you need to see, oh,
are they digesting their foodsWell?
Oh, do they have an issue withgluten?
(06:20):
Do they have an issue withdairy?
And then we kind of look into.
I just don't really feel likeprobiotics is like really the
first thing you would ever needto start with for your gut
health.
There's so many other things tolook at first, I know
personally.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Whenever somebody asks me, I tell them the only
time I would personally evertake a probiotic is if I am
prescribed antibiotics, becauseantibiotics and wipe out your
gut microbiome and obviouslyprobiotics help to kind of
restore that.
With that I want to emphasizepeople who have never done this
(06:55):
before.
Never take them at the sametime, because if you do the
antibiotics.
Just wipe out the probiotics,right, That'd be good.
You take them like at leastspace two hours apart, like you,
usually a run of antibiotics,right?
Usually a run of antibiotics.
You'll take like two a day.
So you know you take yourantibiotic in the morning, you
(07:16):
take your probiotic at noonantibiotic supper, probiotic
before bed, whatever.
But that's about the only timeI would ever take that.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
I will say the fucking packaging, though, looks
impressive AF OK, because, likeI look at the back of the
probiotics and it's like 70quadrillion dillion strains of
whatever it is Like it looksimpressive and it better look
impressive, since it's like $60or some shit for a bottle, like
God damn, especially when youget those fancy ones.
(07:46):
Holy shit.
Yeah, I'm just going to pass onthe probiotics for the most
part, maybe in certainsituations.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Seed the one Bobby approves.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Yeah, it's got like a shell around it that protects
the shell yeah it's got theshell around the shell and it's
like that's.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
another question we get often is is that even
necessary?
Do the bacteria die in thestomach, the probiotics die in
the stomach, or what's up withthat?
Speaker 3 (08:16):
I honestly I don't even know if we know.
I think if we are taking aprobiotic we should just do an
extended release one, becausewhen we're eating anything our
stomach acid is going to releaseand if that can impact, I mean
our stomach acid could kill thebacteria by the time it gets to
your small intestine and largeintestine.
So I feel like just taking anextended release while we are
(08:37):
still researching is smart, Ithink.
For the antibiotic thing, yes,we are essentially the
antibiotics.
Any good gut bacteria you have,the antibiotic isn't.
The antibiotic can't decipherbetween what you have going on
and the good gut bacteria andit's just you're going to try to
kill everything.
So taking a probiotic after isgood, but the whole dying in the
stomach acid, I mean it couldmake it makes sense to me.
(09:00):
I just don't really think wehave like evidence to completely
conclude that either.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
OK, what about?
So?
What about fermented foods,though?
Because I always hear like thisseems like the more from what
I've seen, the stuff that we'relearning that fermented foods
are good for our gut can create,you know, our probiotics in
their own way.
What's the relationship withgut health and fermented foods?
What you got, what you got forme.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
I love like kimchi sauerkraut.
Fun fact those don't have fiberin them.
I was making a video yesterdayabout fiber and I was looking at
my sauerkraut and I don't knowwhy.
I wasn't sure.
Like no, it's like less thanone gram, but it has a lot of it
.
Basically is like prebioticsfeeding the good gut bacteria.
So probiotics are the good gutbacteria, prebiotics are the
(09:45):
food for the probiotics.
So we want to nourish theenvironment in our gut, and by
eating fermented foods we can dothat.
A lot of times, though, peopleare buying like sauerkraut that
isn't in the fridge and bacteriais alive.
So if you want it to beactually beneficial for you,
(10:06):
then you want to at least get itwhen it's in the fridge, like
it should have, like it needs tobe a certain temperature in
order for the bacteria.
What's?
Speaker 1 (10:12):
your favorite.
What's your favorite fermentedfood?
Speaker 3 (10:14):
I actually like kombucha.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Kombucha man.
I'll tell you it's kombucha's.
Weird one, because even thepeople that like kombucha I feel
like we can all agree that likewe're weird, right, like
kombucha has this taste to it,this kind of strong I don't know
if bitter is the right wordit's potent.
Whatever it is, it's verystrong and it's something you
kind of have to get used to andI've kind of adjusted to it over
(10:37):
time, but at first you're kindof you kind of have to hate it,
I feel like right.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
I agree.
Yeah, I actually just got a newone that was blue and I liked
it and it helps me, but I alsoknow it.
Like some people, it's just sohard to be like, oh, let's drink
some kombucha, that's gonnamake me have a healthy gut, and
some people just don't needthose type of bacteria.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
That's in the kombucha, and then they just
like boil it all down.
Is there anything you wouldtell people for what type of
kombucha to look for?
Is it just like pick yourfavorite?
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Which one do I get?
I honestly just get whatever.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Whatever's on sale.
For me it's whatever's on sale,whatever's in the clear section
, like I think it is A lot oftimes with gut health too.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
It's like nutrition in general.
If you're in like the mindsetlike, oh, this is good for me,
oh, I'm gonna feel likeespecially gut health actually
like oh, this is gonna make mefeel good Gonna make me happy
all this stuff.
Your body's not stressed soyou're automatically like, oh,
I'm gonna take a sip of kombuchaand my gut health, my bloat, is
completely gone.
It's like all in your head.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
It's placebo man.
The placebo effect is so strongit is absolutely I love it.
If we ever make a drink, weshould say it's probiotic,
prebiotic and a whole bunch ofother things.
It doesn't matter if it is ornot.
People will believe that itwill work.
Liam's prebiotic probioticcleansing liver cleansing
tincture and no inflammatory100% has to be on there Right
(12:03):
yeah, fight's leaky gut.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
There you go.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Crazy, like anything in nutrition.
A lot of times it's just peoplehave the mindset like okay,
when it comes to gut health.
If you are stressed abouteating a food like, for instance
, if you have like disorderedeating or eating disorder and
you're stressed about eating apotato you're automatically
gonna feel like shit when youeat the potato because you're in
(12:30):
fight, fight or flight mode.
But if you're eating a potatoand you're like, oh, this is
good for me, this is satiating,this has fiber in it, this has
nutrients in it, you're gonnafeel better the second you're in
a stress mode it impacts yourgut.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
How much do you think the kind of your mindset plays
into your gut health?
Because I feel like it's likeobviously everything's connected
, yada, yada.
But like how much do you feellike stress and all that plays
into people's gut health?
Speaker 3 (12:55):
That is like honestly the biggest thing I think
impacts our gut health.
Like I even noticed it in theslightest bit, like if I'm
really stressed or if I'm not,if I'm like sitting down for a
meal but I'm also standing upand I'm also doing like 18 other
things, I never feel good afterit because I don't want, I
don't even know how much I justate and I'm also just not even
enjoying the suit or thinkingabout it.
Like your digestion really does.
(13:16):
It technically starts in themouth, but it also starts in
your brain, like once you start,but then your body's like hell,
yeah, we're about to get food,and that's how it thinks.
And if you're just automaticallyfearful of every single food,
you're not gonna feel good fromeating it.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
I want that on a month.
Two Digestion starts in thebrain.
I like stress in the brain.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
There's an interesting thing with people
say that artificial sweetenersspike insulin, which we know
they don't.
But the reason that they mightin some people is because of
that brain connection.
They're thinking, yeah, this issomething sweet.
They're thinking, yeah, this isgonna spike my insulin.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
I've seen that.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
They're equating it to sugar in the brains,
triggering to pre-release someof that insulin in preparation
for it Even with gut bacteria.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
For some people, where it's even shifted the gut
bacteria, it's like their brainis like, because they tell them
I'm getting this artificialsweetener so I feel like it's
going to.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
That's so interesting I didn't think about it with
artificial sweetener.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
It's artificial sweetener.
Oh yeah, no, if you haven'theard, Gabs, that's the reason
everyone's dying and has cancer.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
I'm good about that, but I haven't heard about the
impact of just thinking about it, but it really is the gut-brain
access.
I think we've all heard aboutthat.
I really think that impact onthings.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
So like, yeah, you said I like that.
You said stress.
So like what are, like I don'tknow, top three, like five tips
you'd give for?
Just like I'm an average person, I'm listening to you, I'm just
like I just kind of want to beoverall healthy and like I want
to have good gut health.
Like what should I do?
Like what are a few things thatI can just kind of do in my day
to day that might help me out?
So you said stress less.
Is that number one?
(14:59):
Is number one, stress less?
Speaker 3 (15:01):
Okay, yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Don't worry, be happy .
Speaker 3 (15:03):
It's not even like, oh I'm stressed about like work,
oh I'm stressed because, likemy boyfriend or something like,
like your body's in a stressstate.
So it could be people like inthe hospital that, like their
mind, they're not like stressedabout something you know
minuscule, their stress, theirbodies and inflammation,
inflammatory state.
But okay, basic, think aboutdigestion as okay, it starts in
(15:28):
the brain and it ends when youpoop.
So if you aren't fixinganything that's like above it,
so you have your brain, yourmouth, your esophagus, your
stomach, your small intestine,your large intestine.
If you're not fixing anythingabove it, by the time it gets to
anything else, it's not gonna.
If you're screwing it up overhere, like, it's gonna be messed
up by the time you.
(15:49):
So like one slow down, likeliterally just slow down.
People are so, especially likein America.
We're all just like we have todo this and this and this and
like no one who like fits downand eats and relaxes, like
literally just take a breather.
Like cook the food, enjoy thefood, smell the food, think
about like sensory aspects ofthe food.
Why do you like the food?
(16:10):
Why is this food?
Do I have a carb?
Do I have a fat?
Do I have a protein?
Just like, think about thingslike other than everything else.
And then when you sit down likeno one shoes their food,
they're just like swallowinggiant chunks of food Like.
I'm a really slow eater ingeneral, but sometimes when I
eat with people, oh, me too.
The food's gone in two secondsby myself.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Yeah, like I'll go do all you can eat buffet with my
family or something.
I'm still on plate one whenthey're on plate three.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Yeah, I feel like in like the blue zone.
So you look at like the bluezones where people you know
longest living people, largestnumber of people on the hundreds
, they all like sit together asa family.
You know like when it's dinnertime they eat and they eat for
like an hour and they just liketalk and you know, yeah, they
socialize over food.
Yeah, it's not like us where I'mlike I gotta get in my car, so
(17:01):
I'm gonna shove the wholeburrito in my mouth and then I'm
just gonna chew it while I'mdriving.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Yeah that like none of us I mean I, I work and
there's not really I can't waitto like not be at the like I
love my job but like I do eat atmy desk and I try to be as
mindful as I can, but it's hardbecause it's like I don't want
to sit in the cafeteria and eat.
So it's it's definitely hard inlike certain situations, but I
definitely don't.
I try not to eat in my carbecause it's just not enjoyable.
(17:29):
Like I like to sit down and Ithink that's one of the things
too when we have like peoplebeing like oh, when I'm in
Europe, I do this and this andthis, it's just so much
different in Europe.
Everything is so much different.
Like I lived there for a yearand like you sit down and you
eat a meal together for like 45minutes it, or yeah, you walk
(17:51):
more, which I know, like walkinghelps aids and digestion.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Like you're eating smaller meals generally, like
their portions aren't as big.
There's a lot of things goingon.
It's not just like our horribleingredients that are written
with pesticides or whatever thatpeople come up with.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Yeah, this whole thing plays into a lot of what
we talk about how stress reallyaffects all of this stuff.
It's not just the food, it'snot just the exercise, it's not
all that.
It also is the stress levelthat people are going through,
and the community aspect as well.
You know, sitting down in jointtime with people.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
Yeah, the last thing you want to do if we're already
stressed, because we're all liketrying to pay for all of the
things we have to pay for andyou know relationships and
everything Like the last thingyou should be stressed about is
food, which is like easier saidthan done, but it's honestly
like the best feeling in theworld to not be stressed about
food and like know what yourbody needs and understand it,
(18:50):
because when you're stressedabout it, you're just
automatically going to feel likeshit all the time.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Okay, so I'm stressing less about food.
What am I doing after that?
Speaker 3 (18:59):
I'm stressed less.
Now, what do I do?
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Well, I'm freaking out because I don't know what to
do next.
Holy shit, I just counteractedstep one.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
Okay, you chew your food, not to the point of like
being disgusting like a smoothie, but to the point where you're
not like swallowing in, you'relike oh, that was probably like
a whole, like part of chicken,like you want to like chew
thoroughly.
You don't want to recognize itas it's going down your side.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Enjoy, the mouth feels.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
Yeah, because, like, think about it, if you're just
swallowing like chickens, thenyou're, by the time it gets to
your stomach, you're just filledwith like a chicken line.
Okay, it needs to have somework already done for it by the
time it gets to the stomach, andsome all destined.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Okay, so I'm stressing less.
I'm chewing my food thoroughly.
What am I doing next?
Speaker 3 (19:43):
Okay, let me think.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Well, what about?
Like my meal?
Like what am I looking for inthe?
You know, give me a quick tip.
Like what should I be lookingfor?
All my play here?
What to first?
Speaker 3 (19:51):
Okay, Look at your play Understand.
I always just do my play method.
I think that's like the bestway, or like the healthy Harvard
play, or whatever they want tocall it.
Basically, half your plateshould be vegetables.
I try to do like two differentcolors because it's prettier and
it makes it more enjoyable.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
But it also.
Well, there you go.
I like it.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
That's a simple thing , you know pick two colored
vegetables, put them on yourplate.
A quarter should be protein.
It can be any protein, I don'tcare.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
And then it has to be a pretty protein.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
I want it to look good and then a quarter should
be grains, and it can be.
I like white rice, but it canalso be like a whole grain if
you want more fiber.
But if you're getting fiber inyour diet elsewhere, then I mean
it's fine.
Just make sure you actuallylike the food.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Yeah, enjoy your food .
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Yeah, and then drink enough water.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Right, yeah, I was going to ask.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Water and that helps our digestion as well, and
you're not going to drink enoughwater to dilute your digestive
enzymes because that's just dumb.
I don't understand.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
They don't understand it, they just yell it because
it sounds scary.
Okay, yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
Like your hydrochloric acid is probably
fine If you drink some waterlike you can have a couple sips
like in your meal.
It's not going to be the end ofthe world.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
It's almost like you can create more and bring the
the acidity level back up.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
Yeah, so drink more water.
I would say.
Another thing is if people arehaving like a lot of stomach
issues and they're feeling likethey're really bloated or
they're just feeling like shit,like okay, no one's going to
take caffeine out, but likecarbonated drinks, carbonated
(21:34):
drinks, you're just going to addmore air into your stomach.
So if you're already likebloated and gassy, just drinking
carbonated drinks is not reallyhelpful yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Because I know people will ask like are other drinks
so like I can have like a flavorand ounce?
Answer in the water.
Or you could do like some juice, or like I don't know milk or
whatever it is, or kombucha no,that's carbonated.
Fuck, they have that.
Never mind, Forget that One.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Focus on water.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Yeah, the people ask is there a reason why you
shouldn't drink sodas oranything like that?
The two reasons would be simplythe acidity wearing down the
enamel of your teeth.
Make sure you brush your teethand Listen.
Don't look at me when you saythat.
I know I don't brush my teethever.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Okay, it's not.
I've been genetics.
I rely on that.
Leave me alone.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
The other thing being that excessive consumption of
carbonated beverages is going tomake you gassy because it's got
gas in it.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Yeah, they get me every time.
I hate.
I've had like companies send meenergy drinks and they're like
please, like they're not like,they're fine.
But like I'm looking for.
I'd rather have like anelectrolyte stick or something,
but then I'll just get it andthen I have them because, like
everyone feels tired, Everyone'sgoing to ask all drink and I'm
immediately like yeah, Ishouldn't have done that.
Like it all immediately makesmy stomach like cramp up.
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I can't.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
So yeah, basically, find what works for you, find
what troubles you.
Yeah, I forgot that exactly.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
And like, and every product can be different too.
It's not necessarily like Imean carbonation in general is
going to cause air, but thereare some products that are
probably going to be.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
What about movement?
Just because I've seen that alot like it can help with like
gas trick empty, empty, that'sstuff we're to say Like, just
like a small walk after dinnerstuff.
I see that happen.
A lot of different culturesthey walk after eating.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Yes, absolutely.
Walking after eating is goingto help your digestion.
If you're just sitting around,your digestion is like going to
be slow, automatically Slow down.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Okay, so you're saying the large Dijorno pizza I
ate with a soda and then sataround and watched Game of
Thrones season eight because Ihate myself.
That wasn't good, for that was.
That was bad.
That was bad for digestion, formental health and just good
phrase.
It's worse for everything.
It's in watching season eightGame of Thrones.
It's horrible for my mentalhealth.
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Why did you have to root?
I'm not getting onto that train.
It's fine.
It's fine.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
It is one of those need that and then other times
it does make you feel reallylike garbage.
So a good mix of both walkingdefinitely always will make
someone feel better.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
That's one of the reasons that somebody can vomit
when they're exercise is theyhad a big meal and then they go
exercise and the exercise istaking blood away from the
stomach, because you need theblood and the muscles and stuff
and your stomach needs blood aspart of the digestion process.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
That's the worst.
Have you ever had a big assmeal and then went to the gym?
It's awful, it's terrible.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
The opposite, to like people that aren't feeling
hungry after they work out.
That's because half your likeall your blood is in your
muscles.
It's not even like in your gut.
It's not focused on your gutright now, so you're not even
thinking about food.
I'm never hungry.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
You got the sympathetic system.
There was that fight or flightand then parasympathetic system,
rest and digest.
I remember the basic words frommiddle school or whatever it is
.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
So ask for stress.
Sympathetic is stress, fight orflight, parasympathetic is rest
and digest.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
So yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Yeah, that's Neal.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
When I talk about that and they're like like
they'll ask me about gut healthand I'm honestly, just like that
is where it starts.
Honestly, think about like whenyou're traveling to, when you
travel, your body's under stressand whenever, like if I'm
traveling, like my gut is Ialways bring like more good
things for me, like I alwayspack like fruits and vegetables
or something.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
So I can at least vomit.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
Really good, because whenever I travel my body's like
what the hell is going on, likeyour whole routine's off, like
what?
Yeah, aren't you?
Speaker 1 (25:32):
like so when you travel, you're eating different
foods, right.
Two, because you're going toeat a whole bunch of different
things that you're not used to.
So obviously you're going to belike what the fuck is this?
And then you're also stressedout, probably because you're
traveling, so it feels recipefor disaster.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
Yeah, your body's like where's my bed, where's my
toilet, where's like everything?
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Where's my cat?
I like that we both went thecat.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Then there's Liam over here, the dogs.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Asson dogs all the way.
Okay, yes, you have to pick uptheir poop, but it's not that
big.
Well, I guess you can pick upas well.
It's just in the box.
That's why I don't have Okay, soyeah, all right.
So I'm stressing less.
I'm drinking water.
I'm trying to get a balanceplate.
As much as I can, chew yourfood thoroughly.
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Go for a walk afterwards.
I'm just trying to roundeverything out.
So, people who already forgotfrom five minutes ago, is that
pretty much sum it up?
Is there anything else you'rethinking of?
I'm just saying anything elseout there, throw it away.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Think start, yeah, focus, just focus on your food
more and eat sitting down a lotmore basic and slow, like the
simple thing you can do for yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
I like it.
I like it.
Okay, now I need to go back towhat I told you earlier.
What's up with these fuckingdragon fruit things that I'm
seeing, with people who are likeeating these whole dragon fruit
seeds or whatever.
Then they're shitting theirbrains out, like I've seen.
I've been seeing a few of thataround and apparently it's like
they also poop out parasites,which are also just the seeds
that they've eaten, like there'sso much to it it's like, got
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levels.
It's got levels of nonsense toit that I love and hate.
So what's up with the seeds andthe fiber thing?
Go ahead.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Okay, I made a video about that and it did really
well and honestly, it's like anyother fruit and vegetable Like
okay, we have soluble fiber andinsoluble fiber.
The soluble fiber bulks up ourstool.
It dissolves in water, it'slike oatmeal.
But then we have insolublefiber that does speed up
digestion more and it absorbswater.
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And it doesn't absorb water.
No, it absorbs water.
I'm sorry, okay, that was messy.
It absorbs water.
Okay, the seeds and the skins,like all fruits and vegetables,
are automatically going to haveboth those fibers and no one
needs to know the differencebetween either.
Any of those for the most part,Like, just eat fiber.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Yeah, we started this last week.
Just get both, it's fine,whatever, just eat.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
It's both fruits and vegetables.
Have both.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
But the skins and the seeds have more insoluble fiber
, and insoluble fiber is whatcan.
If you're constipated, that'swhat helps you go to the
bathroom more.
So the people that are eatingall the seeds and those fruits,
one.
They probably aren't used toeating a whole fruit at once,
because you're eating the entirefruit, it's like a whole trend.
Like you eat the whole fruit.
That's a lot more fiber thanyou're probably getting in one
sitting in general, but you'realso eating all the seeds that
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have all the insoluble fiber.
So, yeah, it's just causing youto your body's like I'm not
used to this and then you havediarrhea because it's a lot of.
It's a lot more insoluble firebecause there are more seeds in
it.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Essentially, your butt is like hey, remember that
dragon fruit you ate.
Well, we're gonna go spit firenow.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Yeah, and it's always like in the comment section.
People are like I know what I'mdoing with my weekend.
I'm like what is your idea offun?
Like this is very strange, butI guess some people are just
real packed up.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Hey, hey, they're on tiktok.
Their idea of fun is sitting onthe toilet scrolling tiktok.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
They're probably constipated on the toilet right
and they see this.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
Yeah, I don't know why people want to do that.
I think they just assume, likeI Mean, they're just assuming
they're bloated, but they mightnot be bloated.
I mean just like I don't know.
Like if you really, if you goto the bathroom and you really
just feel like it's notSatisfying and there's still
something there, you probablyare constipated like you can go
to the bathroom every single day, but you're still constipated
if you're feeling like you'renot going.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
I think that's good advice.
Yeah, like that.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
Yeah, it's like Go to the doctor, like, or just
Honestly, just try it.
Like it's like that's such acommon Thing and like I don't
want people to be taking likemirror locks every day, but like
it's little things like that,and I think a lot of people just
aren't getting enough fiber.
So if you're really justfeeling like shit, it can help.
The other thing, though, islike people with like
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inflammatory bowel disease, ibda lot of people are like
diverticulitis.
Diverticulitis they Don'tnecessarily need more fiber and
like sometimes people need toEat more bland and like peel.
That's why people might say,like heal the skin on the fruit,
peel the skin on the potato,because the potato Skin and
everything's gonna be moreinsoluble fiber it's just an
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animal cyber and you don't needit and like cooking your
vegetables.
A lot of people don't do wellwith raw veggies because yeah,
your body has to break it down.
So if you cook it it's kind ofbreaking it down a little bit
more for you and it's a littlelike gentler on your GI job.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
I've had a lot of people ask me for like hey, I
have IBS, I have Crohn's, I haveall these different things and
I'm like I'm not an expert inthis and also everyone's
different, so I feel like youshould talk to your doctor.
Do you have any just kind oflike yeah, just general tips?
Or like cook your vegetables,maybe try something like peeling
fruits or vegetables.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
When it comes to IBD, like one go get diagnosed if
you have it, because like youare either gonna start out on a
Medication or they're going tohave you on.
If you're like in a flare-up,you need to be on a very bland
diet.
So bland diet, like brat dietthat I don't know if everyone
really knows about, but like thebrat diet when we were sick.
So just like rice, bananas,apples, like very bland food
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You're picking.
Like white rice, white pasta,white bread, because if it's
white doesn't have fiber in it.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
So food that doesn't look pretty.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
Yes, just eat very bland boiled potatoes,
chick-plane chicken breast,things like that, things that
are not going to cause anymovement or anything in your
body, like, just bland.
But when you're not in aflare-up, you do need fiber.
So it's very tricky and likeeven people that are diagnosed
are just so confused becausePeople are like oh well, yeah,
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eat the Mediterranean diet, eatthat, it's good.
And they're like well, aren'tI'm not supposed to eat seeds
and nuts?
I'm like well, it depends ifyou're in a flare-up or not.
If you're in a flare-up, bland.
If you're not in flare-up, youdo want to eat like a balanced,
nutritious diet.
So it really is like that's thebiggest thing.
It's like it's so hard to be onsocial media and try to give
advice.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
Yeah, you know, about someone.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
So all the questions and stuff, it's like I it really
depends.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Like I feel like I have to answer that so much
people ask me like what aboutthis?
Okay, so I have this incrediblyrare disorder that causes these
incredibly rare conditions.
What should I do?
And I'm like, oh, I wouldn'teven know what to start talk
with your doctor, like I'm sorry, I just I don't.
This is social media.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
That's exactly where you start is talk to your doctor
.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
I'm sorry I can't help out.
I'd love to, I just can't.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Yeah, and like I'll get a lot of people saying like
if I talk about gluten orsomething like that, they'll be
like, oh, I'm allergic to gluten.
And then I'm like, are you?
Oh, that's the only act andit's.
I never can really get overthat barrier because I just feel
like sometimes Like theterminology is confusing, so
like I never really know if it'slike oh, I took a food set to
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be test online.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
That it said I was we've gone over those, yeah, you
know.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
So it's like you.
Only I just think it's hard forpeople to like grasp the fact
that, like anyone that's on theinternet telling you like this
is how you should eat, itdoesn't know what they're
talking about, because it's like, honestly, it's dangerous.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Yeah, any.
Any real Dietitian ornutritionist or any anybody
that's talking about food.
Any real one is going to alwaysanswer.
It depends on the person.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
There's no wants people Jesus.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
That's how it works, and also like we have license,
like a license, like we'retrying to not like Jeopardize
anything, we're not trying tohurt anyone.
I feel like people that arejust oh, this is how you do it.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
It's like well, no, that just means you're part of
the government mind controls.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Yeah, I care about no one, but all the money I'm
getting.
Yeah which yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Big pharma.
I just opened my check lastweek and, holy shit, there's so
many zeros.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Like all zeros.
It's just all zeros.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Like so, all zero if there was only a single
different number, I'd be in thegreen right, you know.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
I'm like a like, a nice one at the start of those
zeros or two.
Yeah, like even that Reactionto gluten that could simply just
be psychosomatic from putsomebody stressing over eating
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something that contains wheat.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
Exactly, and the Europe thing versus yeah.
Erica, like we do like havedifferent wheat we use yeah as a
higher gluten content in inEurope that use soft wheat.
But trust me, you are eatingpasta every single day if you
are living in Italy like, youare eating it and it has gluten
in it.
So if you see that disease, youcan't eat it.
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But yeah.
It is interesting, though, justthe difference between like
soft and hard wheat and how onehas less gluten than the other.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
Well, even like within those recipes, a lot of
the Pasta kid might end up beingmade with the hard wheat anyway
, or, like Durham wheat doeshave plenty of gluten in it
Mm-hmm, like it's not magicallygluten-free or anything.
And the softer wheat, sir,usually used for like pastries
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and stuff, just because, again,less gluten.
You don't need it as much in asofter pastry.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
Yeah, and it's just like everything else in our diet
.
Like I mean, a lot of peopleare just not eating right, so
they're just not gonna feel asgood, but I think it's like
People assume that if I eatgluten-free it's healthier.
when it's like, yeah, I thinkit's kind of goes into the whole
demonizing carbs thing andpeople not really understanding
what carbs are and notunderstanding what gluten is, so
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they're just putting them allin the same category, like, oh,
it's cars, yeah, but it's likeno, carbs are like fruit carbs
or milk like if you haven't seenit, I highly recommend looking
up the South Park gluten episode.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
It's so great.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
Oh that it, that was so good.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
It's so.
It just makes your dick fly offlike that's.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
Gluten.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Off into the sunset.
Everyone, nobody realizedwhat's in it.
People are eating soy sauce anddrinking beer like, yeah,
fucking gluten sucks.
That's why I avoid it.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
It's so great like people just like it was an
amazing episode.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
Hang on.
Very time I I work with likenewly diagnosed celiac patients
all the time.
Or I also like just work withpeople.
They're like, yeah, I took outgluten because it makes me feel
better.
I'm like, okay, what is glutento you?
Because have you looked at likeyour condiments, like if it's
just bread?
Speaker 1 (36:34):
if the answer is bread, then we need to go in a
little deeper, because it isn'teverything, but it's and so,
okay, here I've this, it's, I'vethis theory, basically like
okay, so we always demonizesomething, right, and so let's
just take we're gonna takegluten for an example, right?
So people say I'm gonna removeall gluten.
So what are they?
What are they?
Less stuff, less of.
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You know cookies, cakes, youknow, like all of the, you know
those, ultra processed,delicious with muffins, whatever
it is.
And then they feel better andthey're like, oh, it's because
of the gluten, when really theyjust started eating more of a
balanced diet.
But yeah, this is where, likeand I think we all agree on that
, but this is when companies arelike, oh, people are eating
gluten-free, so we're gonna makegluten-free Oreos, we're gonna
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make gluten-free muffins, we'regonna make gluten-free bread,
we're gonna make all thesethings gluten-free.
And then people start, you know, eating those, and then they
just again, they're doubt, theirdiet becomes less balanced and
they feel like shit, and so wehave to move on to the next
thing now.
Now we have to figure out whatthe next thing that's killing us
, so that will then eat a morebalanced diet.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
It always just comes back to a fucking cycle.
So you click thing, yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
Don't even know why companies would do that.
It's more expensive for themand also like it's like honestly
for your gut health, likeeating gluten, like snack, like
foods, those like gums and stuffwe're not really sure like they
could cause like an issue forpeople with, like IBD.
They can also just like makeyou not feel good, like I know
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they cause a lot more like gasand stuff for me, like I don't
do that usually, but like theyput fillers in it to mimic Bread
or mimic, the, to make it thattexture exactly and it's like
fairly better for you.
You're just putting moreadditives in it.
It's like same with, like Dairyfree milk, like it's not that
it's bad for you, but it's alsojust like you don't really need
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to have the gums in it when youcould just be eating, drinking
milk from a cow or eating.
And I think it really dependson the person because, like with
gums and stuff.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
I've never had a problem.
I've used like Santham gum andgore gum and things.
I have no problems.
Then again I can eat like 100plus grams of fiber and eat
basically anything and betotally okay.
But you know you have you knowsome gums whatever and like I've
talked to people like thatdestroys my gut.
I'm like yeah, so I would notrecommend that.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
I had, like I had literally two packages of those
smart sweets.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
Today yeah, I know, I'm just going to tell myself
it's like 20-20-20 grams offiber.
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
Oh, those are gummies .
Speaker 1 (38:58):
Yeah, they look good.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
I meant to look those up Interesting.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
Well, no, so the gummies?
So the sugar-free gummy bearsuse multital and stuff like that
, which is sugar alcohols, andthat fucks people up.
For a different reason, thesmart sweets in the lilies'
gummies is high in fiber, andthat fucks people up because
people are eating like 10 gramsof fiber in a day.
And then you triple that withone package.
So everything's fucking.
It's just.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
My body just does better with fiber from real food
than like the added to fiber.
A lot of people in my comments.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
Tell that to me as soon as I try those fiber-added
things, whether it's a greenspowder or whatever.
Oh, that's what we got to talkabout Gaps.
Can you tell everyone just toavoid the greens powder?
I need backup because I goafter greens powders a lot and
people come after me Not a lot.
Most people are on my side, butthere's some people that are not
, so I need you to tell them tofuck off and that greens powder
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is our dog shit and they shouldavoid them.
Please go ahead, oh man, inyour own terms.
Speaker 3 (39:57):
Shit if you drink greens powder or not, but don't
think it's going to do anythingfor you, it's just you're
drinking water.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
It's a fucking vitamin Like holy shit.
Speaker 3 (40:06):
I need to drink water .
Speaker 2 (40:09):
So, funny enough, when I was talking to Brian
Littlefield of Jocko Fuel aboutour upcoming 25th episode which,
spoiler alert Jocko Fuel issponsoring a giveaway for our
25th episode coming up here andeverybody who is a member of our
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Patreon is automaticallyentered.
You don't even have to buymembership on the Patreon.
That includes the free peopleEverybody that's a member of our
Patreon.
We're just going to randomlyselect one member to receive
this gift package when we go torecord our 25th episode, which
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will be at the end of the monthhere.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
It's a button, but I was talking to click it Like
it's not.
I know you're lazy, but goddamnguys like go like, click.
Okay, now I'm entered.
That's all you got to do.
It's not hard.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
All you got to do, you know.
So I was talking to Brian andone of the things we talked
about was greens powders, and wewere talking about, like, if
the first ingredient on the listof these green powders is soy
lecithin, it's garbage, just afiller.
It's just filler, yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:25):
I will say I do have like I've never bought greens
powder but I do like like JockoFuel stuff and I got greens
powder from them because I wascurious and it tastes really
good and it's.
The first ingredient is not soylecithin.
I think the issue with a lot ofthe greens patterns is there,
the whole proprietary blend,where they're just a bunch of
random shit in there and it'slike all and it's not really
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doing anything.
But I also will say when Itraveled I went to travel and
like visit my friend and I.
It's been a long time sinceI've like had other people feed
me, where I don't really havemuch control.
And I wasn't like hand or justlike they just say come on not
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going to go in there for edgeand start eating carrot.
Weird.
So like I wasn't eating as manyveggies and I did have it with
me and like, trust me, I wasn'treally getting a lot of
vegetables, but like the mindset, that's where it comes in again
.
So it's like sometimes if youwant to waste your money on a
greens powder, it's going tomake you feel better, like go
for it, but it's also just likeunderstand that it's probably.
Well, it's definitely not theequivalent to like fruits and
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vegetables.
Speaker 1 (42:34):
Not even close, like it's a different stratosphere,
like a whole shit.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
And if it's got proprietary blends on it, throw
it in the trash.
Speaker 1 (42:43):
I will never buy anything that says proprietary
blend on it.
For anybody listening,proprietary blends.
Just they have like a number, abig number, it's like 8,000
milligrams, and then they got8,000 things below it, so it's
like one milligram of each.
It's nonsense.
Speaker 2 (42:57):
Yeah, like I'm going to go ahead and call out
athletic greens here.
Because, like if you ever lookat their thing?
I know off the top of my headthey've got the, the mushroom
proprietary blend, and it's likeall of these mushrooms and the
entire thing is like two grams,three grams one or the other,
and the effective dose ofshiitake mushrooms alone is one
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to two grams.
So the entire mushroom complexis two grams.
There's no way you can have aneffective dose of the shiitake
mushrooms and all these othermushrooms.
Speaker 3 (43:31):
Yeah, they're picking things that are like whatever's
up and coming, whatever theywant to talk about, like Zhang
Sierlina Kale, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (43:41):
Fucking cordyceps like you become fucking the last
of us.
It's nonsense.
This bullshit is what it is.
Speaker 3 (43:46):
And put them in there and like the longer the list.
It's just so scary.
But there's a reason whythere's like research on each of
those ingredients.
There's a clinical dose to havethe effect that they're like
claiming.
Speaker 1 (43:54):
It just doesn't make sense and it's always a
minuscule amount on the thingcompared to what the effective
dose is.
It's not, and it costs like ahundred and fifty dollars.
Who is buying this?
Who has all of this money butno brains?
How are they still in business?
I have so many questions whenit comes to athletics and people
still defend them.
I went after them.
(44:15):
I had somebody stitch me and goit's for athletes, not for you,
dummy.
I'm like fuck you, theseathletes.
Yeah, they have money.
That's why they buy it, becausethey have fucking money and no
brains to go along with it.
It's bullshit.
Athletic Boom athletic.
If you can't get my nuance, Idon't like them.
That's, that's basically yeah.
Speaker 3 (44:37):
And then they'll put like probiotics and prebiotics
and it's like you're it's fine,but it's just not like you want
to waste your money on it.
It's just kind of crazy to mebecause I'm like sometimes I sit
back and I'm like I can make somuch money.
Speaker 1 (44:48):
Oh fuck Guys guys, Listen, listen to me.
Listen to me If I ever sellathletic greens.
It's a call for help.
They asked me to blink twice.
There's someone in my house.
I need you to come rescue me.
Some shit has gone down, got it.
Speaker 3 (45:03):
But even just like making a supplement like or
making some like random dietplan.
I said I'm like it could be soeasy because I just the people,
things, people think and I wouldnever do that to people.
But it's like a lot of peoplethat are selling these things
have no like nutritionbackground.
That is business and they'resmart.
Speaker 1 (45:21):
They're just selling money.
It's just about making money,all money.
Speaker 2 (45:25):
Yeah, speaking speaking of making money,
there's those gut microbiometests that some people sell,
like the.
I was thinking it was lastepisode with Shaila got my life
50 cent or the 50 cell brainbrain challenge.
(45:45):
Oh yeah 50 cell brain challenge, whatever it is, it's not that
hard.
You've already lost all yourbrain cells.
Speaker 3 (45:53):
You can't even say what, it's already lost.
Speaker 1 (45:55):
Brain cell challenge, where you only have 50 brain
cells and you lose brain cellfor every ingredient or two
brain cells.
Speaker 2 (46:00):
Whenever you come up with that guy, that guy Josh,
josh, whatever Josh somethingWell, he also.
He.
One of his main things he sellsis gut microbiome testing.
Speaker 1 (46:12):
Oh, that's smart.
Speaker 2 (46:13):
That's smart lost whatever is in, just sell a test
for it.
Speaker 1 (46:18):
So it's like gut microbiome is in, just sell a
test for it.
That's genius.
Speaker 2 (46:23):
And there is literally no evidence as to what
a healthy gut microbiome issupposed to look like.
Like what is he?
What are you measuring?
Speaker 1 (46:35):
it against.
You know what I would startselling, because I know what's
going to come in.
You know what?
I'd start selling Healthypeople's poop.
Yeah, I would totally get likethe healthiest people,
attractive people to, becausethey got to be attractive,
obviously, and then I would selltheir poop because I need to
say that's actually a thing.
No, I know it's like anybodylistening?
No, no, no, poop, poop,transplants, I don't know.
(46:55):
Whatever they call it, it's avehicle transplants.
Vehicle transplants is 100percent of the thing and there
actually is like some evidencethat like, if you take somebody
who's got all fucked up and thenyou give them the bacteria
that's in the poop of the peopleand they don't just like shove
poop up.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
Yeah, that's for somebody who's like completely
fucked up, oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:11):
No.
So they there's and they put,like they distill it down to do
things I don't know Scienceystuff, and then they put the
poop up there with with othersciencey things and then they
feel better.
But me I would just be like,listen, I'm just going to send
you a bag of somebody'sattractive, healthy person's
poop.
You throw it up there and youfeel better.
That's I mean.
Speaker 3 (47:28):
I might get troubles in FDA or something I don't know
.
Speaker 1 (47:31):
I don't know what the deal is with that, but that's,
that's good, I would make memoney.
It would make me money.
Speaker 3 (47:35):
Oh, so you're supposed to avoid anything with
more than three ingredients?
Speaker 2 (47:39):
Is what you're looking up to.
Speaker 1 (47:42):
Oh, anything with more than three ingredients.
So salsa is out.
I can't.
Speaker 2 (47:47):
Yeah, pretty much anything that has flavor is out
OK, because every single spiceyou put in something is an
ingredient.
Speaker 1 (47:54):
So can I have mixed spices Gables, or can I only
have spices that have one spice?
Speaker 3 (47:58):
Well, well, I'm surprised you didn't like
highlight.
I'm going to butcher thispronunciation Karin, Karin, you
got Karin, Fuck what's it calledKaradinen.
Karadinen.
I was looking like he didn'thighlight that, but he
highlighted, like everything.
Speaker 1 (48:14):
You?
Normally people go afterKaradinen hard.
That's interesting yeah.
Speaker 3 (48:17):
Yeah, I mean, I think it's really hard.
Anything like testing wise.
You really have to be carefulwhere like getting it, because
it's sometimes people will likedo oh, like feets and stupid
testing, oh, everly well, orwhatever.
Like the people like sometimesyou just get it and they just
assume that you're going to takeout everything red, but it's
not necessarily one like yourbody might have just reacted to
(48:40):
that at different time in yourlife and you just have built
antibodies for it and you'refine now and it's like that's
why I'm saying like chew yourfucking food and like stop
stressing out, because it's likestart there, like you don't
necessarily get a whole foodgroup.
Speaker 1 (48:56):
I love you to get like a shirt games you need to
be like fuck greens powders,chew your food and relax
motherfucker Like that's whatyou need, because it has like no
one will ever do it.
Oh man For greens powders.
Chew your food and sit down,motherfucker.
That's what I want.
I want that on a T shirt.
I'll buy it, I'll pay for it.
Speaker 3 (49:18):
There are mug or something they like.
Don't need to take out a foodgroup you might like you might
feel better out.
If you feel better Like, that'sfine.
We don't need to take outmultiple food groups when you're
going to miss.
Just don't listen to anythingjust randomly that you're
getting.
If someone's giving you a testand they can't even explain the
test, then I would say don't doit.
Speaker 1 (49:39):
No, they told me the test would be good for anti
inflammation and leaky gut.
That's so.
It's good.
Speaker 2 (49:47):
Like I said, there's there's no evidence as to what
you're measuring this against,and people from different areas
of the world are naturally goingto have different gut
microbiomes because they areliving ecosystems that diversify
based on what you're eating.
I'm telling you guys we are allthis.
Speaker 1 (50:05):
This entire podcast really just comes down to
teaching people how to makemoney off bullshit Like I think
whether it's us or somebodylistening that every week,
they're going to be like oh wait, a gut microbiome test.
Add that to the list, Check nogreens.
Yeah, food sensitivity,absolutely.
And then they're just going toget rich.
Speaker 2 (50:26):
That's make it rain, that money.
Speaker 1 (50:28):
They're going to shout us out when they're a
fucking millionaire off sellingbullshit.
Speaker 2 (50:31):
They're like.
Speaker 1 (50:32):
I listen in moderation and they just told me
everything I needed to do tomake money off of nonsense.
Speaker 3 (50:37):
And it's like I would be much better off with more
variety in it, because there'sdifferent nutrients in every
food and we want to feed our gutbacteria.
If we don't, if we're notgetting enough food, we're not
feeding our gut at all.
So it's like why are you takingout?
Like I honestly love the namepodcast.
I feel like I probably likeupset some people because every
time I say like, oh, eatmoderation.
They're like shut the fuck up.
(50:58):
But like I really do like it.
I just feel like people don'tget it.
Speaker 2 (51:02):
Like I think it's so important.
Speaker 1 (51:04):
No, that's why we made the podcast, so people
would sit down and get it.
Speaker 3 (51:09):
It could be so much more for people and they are
just stressing over and thinkingthere's like one right way,
when there's just not and it'sall individual.
Speaker 2 (51:19):
Everything ends up being in black and white to a
lot of people.
They can't see that middleground that exists.
Speaker 3 (51:26):
Yeah, that's like one thing I feel like I learned in
like school.
I was always so annoyed when Ihad like I don't know where
you're at in school land, butlike case studies for like
patients, because you wouldlearn about all these diseases
and then get case study and belike, oh the diseases.
And you'd be like, oh my God.
So you get really stressed andthen my teacher is like, yeah,
it's just not going to be blackand white and it's never, ever
going to be black and white andI was like, ok, oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (51:46):
You know, it really is just never nothing.
No, no.
Speaker 1 (51:50):
I love that the end of every podcast, every end of
every end of every episode.
We just end up just likecomplaining about the bullshit
at the end that we see.
It's just like also here's howto eat in moderation, but here's
all the fuck weasels that willtell you that you have to do
this.
And it's just us.
This is, but it's cathartic ina way.
It's just being like fuck thosepeople.
I need to say something becauseit just drives me crazy.
Speaker 3 (52:12):
Yeah, and it's like yeah.
They're not.
They're not sure about things.
They're just as scared of thefood as you are now.
Like they are fearful in theirbrain, their fear on other
people, and it's like you're.
If we're going to be fearingfood so much, we're not even
helping our gut one and you'rejust relationship with food in
general.
Like you don't need to bestressed about food.
There's not like, oh, I have toeat this, I have to eat this,
(52:33):
and like if I eat this I'mscrewed, you're probably fine.
Yeah, like people just don'trealize how the human body I'm
going to go.
Speaker 1 (52:40):
right now you eat some peanut M&M's to get my
different colors in.
Speaker 2 (52:47):
I got a bag of skittles right here All the
rainbow tastes the rain.
Speaker 1 (52:54):
I like peanut M&M's.
I need the peanut in there.
It's got that crunch.
I like that, I like that I dolike?
Yeah, I do like the.
M&m's best M&M.
Let's end the podcast with that.
Everybody, if there's one thingyou take from that, it's peanut
M&M best M&M.
Good night, good night.
Speaker 2 (53:14):
Never mind any other topics that we might want to get
to.
Speaker 1 (53:18):
No, we're done.
Speaker 2 (53:18):
Peanut M&M done.
Hey everybody, welcome to the podcast.
We've been sitting here for thepast 45 minutes, you know, with
technical issues, but we'reback on track.
We're in here.
Rob and I have just been kindof humming that song.
What's the name of that song,rob?
What was it?
You said it was Tom's diner,tom's diner.
Whatever you know, the Do it Doit Do it.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Do it.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Does anybody know the lyrics to that song?
Speaker 1 (00:20):
To the lyrics.
That because I don't know.
I feel like I know the lyricsbut I don't know the lyrics.
That song I've been sitting bya window with my coffee on the
table Like I don't know what itis.
But if you know what it is, putit in the comments, if there is
comments I don't know if wehave that.
Anyway, we're here on episode Idon't know 148 or whatever it
is we have.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
We're getting up there apparently according in
Liam's head anyway.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
It's all fucking over the place.
It's so bad.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Next episode will be like a thousand six hundred and
forty nine.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
And it'll go back down.
Now let's go back down to likefour.
All right, we have gaps on thistime.
Gabs, why don't you introduceyourself a little bit, because
we're not good at that, so youshould do it.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
OK, my name is Gabriel.
My nickname is Gables.
I'm a registered dietitian.
I've been a registereddietitian for like three years
and, yeah, I met both of them onTick Tock.
I like to debunk as well and Ilike to talk about good health
and everything too.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Yes, and that is what we're going to talk about today
.
Because, because, gables, I'mgoing to be honest with you.
I'm going to be 100 percenthonest with you when I'm on the
Tick Tock and I see somebody saythe Tick Tock when I see
somebody say, hey, I'm here tohelp out with gut health.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Literally every red flag like all the red flags Just
when you got to tag red flagguy in that it's.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
I just see that it's like the ceiling collapses from
the weight of all the red flags.
Yeah, because, like, at the endof the day, we don't really
understand so much about the gutmicrobiome.
So when people say they're likeI'm an expert in gut health,
I'm like bullshit you are.
But I actually have watchedyour stuff and I'm like, oh,
actually she does know somethings and that's awesome.
(01:58):
So I this episode, I definitelywant to talk about gut health
and the like actual, factual,actual factual.
God, I like that actual,factual information.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Yeah, I also just feel like that's what kind of
sucks for me.
I feel like gut health hasbecome something that I would
usually be like I'm not going tolisten to this because it's
just like a fad.
But in general it's just like Iwork with gastrointestinal
diseases but it's like Iunderstand the gut because of
that.
I just think people assume Godhealth is just like.
Oh, I'm not bloated anymorewhen it's like there's everybody
(02:34):
has IVS these days.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Yeah, it's so great, so, so OK.
So last time we with withShiloh last week, we talked a
lot about fiber.
We kind of hit the the toiletbowl with the plunger.
You know we weren't backed upwith information at all.
Everything just went throughother poop puns that I'm missing
I don't know 10 out of 10 pooppuns and poop puns you know,
well done the bat.
(02:56):
So we talked a lot about fiber,but I definitely want to, you
know, like talk about some ofthe other things that's
important, like was born withgut health, Rob.
Where do you think we shouldstart with the gut health?
What are you thinking?
Speaker 2 (03:07):
I don't know.
We could talk leaky gut, justlike leaky.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Everybody is always leaky gut.
Holy shit, Gables.
What the fuck is up with leakygut and why does everyone have
it?
Speaker 3 (03:18):
OK, I mean essentially they have it,
because essentially, leaky gutis just you have.
So we have good bacteria in ourgut and then we sometimes have
bad bacteria in our gut, andthat's what we are essentially
pooping out at the end of theday.
Leaky gut is essentially it'sbasically saying the bad gut
bacteria.
(03:38):
Instead of shitting it out orsweating it out, it's saying
where, where your good gutbacteria into us.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
They're like leaks into our bodies.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
I think that's kind of an obvious question Is where
does it leak into us or does itleak out the other?
Speaker 1 (03:55):
end, at least everywhere.
It's just leaky.
There's a sink with so manyholes.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Like I've learned about this a lot, but I also
know it's kind of like we're notquite like quite sure about
really the definition of it.
So I kind of just steered awayfrom saying people have leaky
gut, because I feel like you canjust say anyone has leaky gut.
And I just mean do you have thebad bacteria?
You have more bad bacteria thangood gut bacteria in your gut.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
It seems like one of those things where there's like
maybe some truth to it in a way,but people just take it and
blow it out of proportion, like,oh, gluten causes leaky gut
because people who have, youknow, celiac disease or whatever
gluten intolerance you knowthey have issues with it.
So everyone has issues.
That's what.
That's what I feel like it is.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Yeah, the.
I feel like it's definitely aterm that's medically it doesn't
really exist, Like it's justthis kind of weird symptom that
we haven't really defined, butin social media it's become one
of those fear mongering terms.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
It's something you yell about with your shirt off.
That's basically what leaky gutis, yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
Yeah, it's like um, so we eat foods.
There's a lot of toxins in ourfoods.
There's a lot of toxins,literally like right now like
breathing in toxins and leakygut.
Essentially is it's going intobloodstream, not staying in the
gut where you can peep it out.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Yeah, okay, so at least you got seems kind of
nebulous.
You know, whatever I want to goon to, you know I want to ask
about probiotics because I getasked about this a lot and from
what I've seen, like if incertain situations you know,
prescribed by your doctor, yadayada yada, it can be beneficial,
but like for everybody, should,should all of us right now just
(05:36):
be taking probiotics just likeevery day?
What's the deal?
What's going on?
Speaker 3 (05:40):
No, I think it's.
It's hard because there aresome like broad spectrum
probiotics that have things likeso, like yogurt has
lactobacillus andbisonobacterium those are like
the two common probiotics thatwe do want to have a good amount
in our gut Right.
So there are more like broadspectrum ones that are just
basic, so they're not reallygoing to do anything.
(06:00):
But there's also just likethousands of strains of
probiotics that all havedifferent purposes and, without
understanding what's going onwith your own gut microbiome,
just taking a random probioticmight not help you at all.
There's just so many differentstrains and you need to see, oh,
are they digesting their foodsWell?
Oh, do they have an issue withgluten?
(06:20):
Do they have an issue withdairy?
And then we kind of look into.
I just don't really feel likeprobiotics is like really the
first thing you would ever needto start with for your gut
health.
There's so many other things tolook at first, I know
personally.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Whenever somebody asks me, I tell them the only
time I would personally evertake a probiotic is if I am
prescribed antibiotics, becauseantibiotics and wipe out your
gut microbiome and obviouslyprobiotics help to kind of
restore that.
With that I want to emphasizepeople who have never done this
(06:55):
before.
Never take them at the sametime, because if you do the
antibiotics.
Just wipe out the probiotics,right, That'd be good.
You take them like at leastspace two hours apart, like you,
usually a run of antibiotics,right?
Usually a run of antibiotics.
You'll take like two a day.
So you know you take yourantibiotic in the morning, you
(07:16):
take your probiotic at noonantibiotic supper, probiotic
before bed, whatever.
But that's about the only timeI would ever take that.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
I will say the fucking packaging, though, looks
impressive AF OK, because, likeI look at the back of the
probiotics and it's like 70quadrillion dillion strains of
whatever it is Like it looksimpressive and it better look
impressive, since it's like $60or some shit for a bottle, like
God damn, especially when youget those fancy ones.
(07:46):
Holy shit.
Yeah, I'm just going to pass onthe probiotics for the most
part, maybe in certainsituations.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Seed the one Bobby approves.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Yeah, it's got like a shell around it that protects
the shell yeah it's got theshell around the shell and it's
like that's.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
another question we get often is is that even
necessary?
Do the bacteria die in thestomach, the probiotics die in
the stomach, or what's up withthat?
Speaker 3 (08:16):
I honestly I don't even know if we know.
I think if we are taking aprobiotic we should just do an
extended release one, becausewhen we're eating anything our
stomach acid is going to releaseand if that can impact, I mean
our stomach acid could kill thebacteria by the time it gets to
your small intestine and largeintestine.
So I feel like just taking anextended release while we are
(08:37):
still researching is smart, Ithink.
For the antibiotic thing, yes,we are essentially the
antibiotics.
Any good gut bacteria you have,the antibiotic isn't.
The antibiotic can't decipherbetween what you have going on
and the good gut bacteria andit's just you're going to try to
kill everything.
So taking a probiotic after isgood, but the whole dying in the
stomach acid, I mean it couldmake it makes sense to me.
(09:00):
I just don't really think wehave like evidence to completely
conclude that either.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
OK, what about?
So?
What about fermented foods,though?
Because I always hear like thisseems like the more from what
I've seen, the stuff that we'relearning that fermented foods
are good for our gut can create,you know, our probiotics in
their own way.
What's the relationship withgut health and fermented foods?
What you got, what you got forme.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
I love like kimchi sauerkraut.
Fun fact those don't have fiberin them.
I was making a video yesterdayabout fiber and I was looking at
my sauerkraut and I don't knowwhy.
I wasn't sure.
Like no, it's like less thanone gram, but it has a lot of it
.
Basically is like prebioticsfeeding the good gut bacteria.
So probiotics are the good gutbacteria, prebiotics are the
(09:45):
food for the probiotics.
So we want to nourish theenvironment in our gut, and by
eating fermented foods we can dothat.
A lot of times, though, peopleare buying like sauerkraut that
isn't in the fridge and bacteriais alive.
So if you want it to beactually beneficial for you,
(10:06):
then you want to at least get itwhen it's in the fridge, like
it should have, like it needs tobe a certain temperature in
order for the bacteria.
What's?
Speaker 1 (10:12):
your favorite.
What's your favorite fermentedfood?
Speaker 3 (10:14):
I actually like kombucha.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Kombucha man.
I'll tell you it's kombucha's.
Weird one, because even thepeople that like kombucha I feel
like we can all agree that likewe're weird, right, like
kombucha has this taste to it,this kind of strong I don't know
if bitter is the right wordit's potent.
Whatever it is, it's verystrong and it's something you
kind of have to get used to andI've kind of adjusted to it over
(10:37):
time, but at first you're kindof you kind of have to hate it,
I feel like right.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
I agree.
Yeah, I actually just got a newone that was blue and I liked
it and it helps me, but I alsoknow it.
Like some people, it's just sohard to be like, oh, let's drink
some kombucha, that's gonnamake me have a healthy gut, and
some people just don't needthose type of bacteria.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
That's in the kombucha, and then they just
like boil it all down.
Is there anything you wouldtell people for what type of
kombucha to look for?
Is it just like pick yourfavorite?
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Which one do I get?
I honestly just get whatever.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Whatever's on sale.
For me it's whatever's on sale,whatever's in the clear section
, like I think it is A lot oftimes with gut health too.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
It's like nutrition in general.
If you're in like the mindsetlike, oh, this is good for me,
oh, I'm gonna feel likeespecially gut health actually
like oh, this is gonna make mefeel good Gonna make me happy
all this stuff.
Your body's not stressed soyou're automatically like, oh,
I'm gonna take a sip of kombuchaand my gut health, my bloat, is
completely gone.
It's like all in your head.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
It's placebo man.
The placebo effect is so strongit is absolutely I love it.
If we ever make a drink, weshould say it's probiotic,
prebiotic and a whole bunch ofother things.
It doesn't matter if it is ornot.
People will believe that itwill work.
Liam's prebiotic probioticcleansing liver cleansing
tincture and no inflammatory100% has to be on there Right
(12:03):
yeah, fight's leaky gut.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
There you go.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Crazy, like anything in nutrition.
A lot of times it's just peoplehave the mindset like okay,
when it comes to gut health.
If you are stressed abouteating a food like, for instance
, if you have like disorderedeating or eating disorder and
you're stressed about eating apotato you're automatically
gonna feel like shit when youeat the potato because you're in
(12:30):
fight, fight or flight mode.
But if you're eating a potatoand you're like, oh, this is
good for me, this is satiating,this has fiber in it, this has
nutrients in it, you're gonnafeel better the second you're in
a stress mode it impacts yourgut.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
How much do you think the kind of your mindset plays
into your gut health?
Because I feel like it's likeobviously everything's connected
, yada, yada.
But like how much do you feellike stress and all that plays
into people's gut health?
Speaker 3 (12:55):
That is like honestly the biggest thing I think
impacts our gut health.
Like I even noticed it in theslightest bit, like if I'm
really stressed or if I'm not,if I'm like sitting down for a
meal but I'm also standing upand I'm also doing like 18 other
things, I never feel good afterit because I don't want, I
don't even know how much I justate and I'm also just not even
enjoying the suit or thinkingabout it.
Like your digestion really does.
(13:16):
It technically starts in themouth, but it also starts in
your brain, like once you start,but then your body's like hell,
yeah, we're about to get food,and that's how it thinks.
And if you're just automaticallyfearful of every single food,
you're not gonna feel good fromeating it.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
I want that on a month.
Two Digestion starts in thebrain.
I like stress in the brain.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
There's an interesting thing with people
say that artificial sweetenersspike insulin, which we know
they don't.
But the reason that they mightin some people is because of
that brain connection.
They're thinking, yeah, this issomething sweet.
They're thinking, yeah, this isgonna spike my insulin.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
I've seen that.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
They're equating it to sugar in the brains,
triggering to pre-release someof that insulin in preparation
for it Even with gut bacteria.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
For some people, where it's even shifted the gut
bacteria, it's like their brainis like, because they tell them
I'm getting this artificialsweetener so I feel like it's
going to.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
That's so interesting I didn't think about it with
artificial sweetener.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
It's artificial sweetener.
Oh yeah, no, if you haven'theard, Gabs, that's the reason
everyone's dying and has cancer.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
I'm good about that, but I haven't heard about the
impact of just thinking about it, but it really is the gut-brain
access.
I think we've all heard aboutthat.
I really think that impact onthings.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
So like, yeah, you said I like that.
You said stress.
So like what are, like I don'tknow, top three, like five tips
you'd give for?
Just like I'm an average person, I'm listening to you, I'm just
like I just kind of want to beoverall healthy and like I want
to have good gut health.
Like what should I do?
Like what are a few things thatI can just kind of do in my day
to day that might help me out?
So you said stress less.
Is that number one?
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Is number one, stress less?
Speaker 3 (15:01):
Okay, yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Don't worry, be happy .
Speaker 3 (15:03):
It's not even like, oh I'm stressed about like work,
oh I'm stressed because, likemy boyfriend or something like,
like your body's in a stressstate.
So it could be people like inthe hospital that, like their
mind, they're not like stressedabout something you know
minuscule, their stress, theirbodies and inflammation,
inflammatory state.
But okay, basic, think aboutdigestion as okay, it starts in
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the brain and it ends when youpoop.
So if you aren't fixinganything that's like above it,
so you have your brain, yourmouth, your esophagus, your
stomach, your small intestine,your large intestine.
If you're not fixing anythingabove it, by the time it gets to
anything else, it's not gonna.
If you're screwing it up overhere, like, it's gonna be messed
up by the time you.
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So like one slow down, likeliterally just slow down.
People are so, especially likein America.
We're all just like we have todo this and this and this and
like no one who like fits downand eats and relaxes, like
literally just take a breather.
Like cook the food, enjoy thefood, smell the food, think
about like sensory aspects ofthe food.
Why do you like the food?
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Why is this food?
Do I have a carb?
Do I have a fat?
Do I have a protein?
Just like, think about thingslike other than everything else.
And then when you sit down likeno one shoes their food,
they're just like swallowinggiant chunks of food Like.
I'm a really slow eater ingeneral, but sometimes when I
eat with people, oh, me too.
The food's gone in two secondsby myself.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Yeah, like I'll go do all you can eat buffet with my
family or something.
I'm still on plate one whenthey're on plate three.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Yeah, I feel like in like the blue zone.
So you look at like the bluezones where people you know
longest living people, largestnumber of people on the hundreds
, they all like sit together asa family.
You know like when it's dinnertime they eat and they eat for
like an hour and they just liketalk and you know, yeah, they
socialize over food.
Yeah, it's not like us where I'mlike I gotta get in my car, so
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I'm gonna shove the wholeburrito in my mouth and then I'm
just gonna chew it while I'mdriving.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Yeah that like none of us I mean I, I work and
there's not really I can't waitto like not be at the like I
love my job but like I do eat atmy desk and I try to be as
mindful as I can, but it's hardbecause it's like I don't want
to sit in the cafeteria and eat.
So it's it's definitely hard inlike certain situations, but I
definitely don't.
I try not to eat in my carbecause it's just not enjoyable.
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Like I like to sit down and Ithink that's one of the things
too when we have like peoplebeing like oh, when I'm in
Europe, I do this and this andthis, it's just so much
different in Europe.
Everything is so much different.
Like I lived there for a yearand like you sit down and you
eat a meal together for like 45minutes it, or yeah, you walk
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more, which I know, like walkinghelps aids and digestion.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Like you're eating smaller meals generally, like
their portions aren't as big.
There's a lot of things goingon.
It's not just like our horribleingredients that are written
with pesticides or whatever thatpeople come up with.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Yeah, this whole thing plays into a lot of what
we talk about how stress reallyaffects all of this stuff.
It's not just the food, it'snot just the exercise, it's not
all that.
It also is the stress levelthat people are going through,
and the community aspect as well.
You know, sitting down in jointtime with people.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
Yeah, the last thing you want to do if we're already
stressed, because we're all liketrying to pay for all of the
things we have to pay for andyou know relationships and
everything Like the last thingyou should be stressed about is
food, which is like easier saidthan done, but it's honestly
like the best feeling in theworld to not be stressed about
food and like know what yourbody needs and understand it,
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because when you're stressedabout it, you're just
automatically going to feel likeshit all the time.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Okay, so I'm stressing less about food.
What am I doing after that?
Speaker 3 (18:59):
I'm stressed less.
Now, what do I do?
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Well, I'm freaking out because I don't know what to
do next.
Holy shit, I just counteractedstep one.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
Okay, you chew your food, not to the point of like
being disgusting like a smoothie, but to the point where you're
not like swallowing in, you'relike oh, that was probably like
a whole, like part of chicken,like you want to like chew
thoroughly.
You don't want to recognize itas it's going down your side.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Enjoy, the mouth feels.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
Yeah, because, like, think about it, if you're just
swallowing like chickens, thenyou're, by the time it gets to
your stomach, you're just filledwith like a chicken line.
Okay, it needs to have somework already done for it by the
time it gets to the stomach, andsome all destined.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Okay, so I'm stressing less.
I'm chewing my food thoroughly.
What am I doing next?
Speaker 3 (19:43):
Okay, let me think.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Well, what about?
Like my meal?
Like what am I looking for inthe?
You know, give me a quick tip.
Like what should I be lookingfor?
All my play here?
What to first?
Speaker 3 (19:51):
Okay, Look at your play Understand.
I always just do my play method.
I think that's like the bestway, or like the healthy Harvard
play, or whatever they want tocall it.
Basically, half your plateshould be vegetables.
I try to do like two differentcolors because it's prettier and
it makes it more enjoyable.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
But it also.
Well, there you go.
I like it.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
That's a simple thing , you know pick two colored
vegetables, put them on yourplate.
A quarter should be protein.
It can be any protein, I don'tcare.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
And then it has to be a pretty protein.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
I want it to look good and then a quarter should
be grains, and it can be.
I like white rice, but it canalso be like a whole grain if
you want more fiber.
But if you're getting fiber inyour diet elsewhere, then I mean
it's fine.
Just make sure you actuallylike the food.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Yeah, enjoy your food .
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Yeah, and then drink enough water.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Right, yeah, I was going to ask.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Water and that helps our digestion as well, and
you're not going to drink enoughwater to dilute your digestive
enzymes because that's just dumb.
I don't understand.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
They don't understand it, they just yell it because
it sounds scary.
Okay, yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
Like your hydrochloric acid is probably
fine If you drink some waterlike you can have a couple sips
like in your meal.
It's not going to be the end ofthe world.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
It's almost like you can create more and bring the
the acidity level back up.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
Yeah, so drink more water.
I would say.
Another thing is if people arehaving like a lot of stomach
issues and they're feeling likethey're really bloated or
they're just feeling like shit,like okay, no one's going to
take caffeine out, but likecarbonated drinks, carbonated
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drinks, you're just going to addmore air into your stomach.
So if you're already likebloated and gassy, just drinking
carbonated drinks is not reallyhelpful yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Because I know people will ask like are other drinks
so like I can have like a flavorand ounce?
Answer in the water.
Or you could do like some juice, or like I don't know milk or
whatever it is, or kombucha no,that's carbonated.
Fuck, they have that.
Never mind, Forget that One.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Focus on water.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Yeah, the people ask is there a reason why you
shouldn't drink sodas oranything like that?
The two reasons would be simplythe acidity wearing down the
enamel of your teeth.
Make sure you brush your teethand Listen.
Don't look at me when you saythat.
I know I don't brush my teethever.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Okay, it's not.
I've been genetics.
I rely on that.
Leave me alone.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
The other thing being that excessive consumption of
carbonated beverages is going tomake you gassy because it's got
gas in it.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Yeah, they get me every time.
I hate.
I've had like companies send meenergy drinks and they're like
please, like they're not like,they're fine.
But like I'm looking for.
I'd rather have like anelectrolyte stick or something,
but then I'll just get it andthen I have them because, like
everyone feels tired, Everyone'sgoing to ask all drink and I'm
immediately like yeah, Ishouldn't have done that.
Like it all immediately makesmy stomach like cramp up.
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I can't.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
So yeah, basically, find what works for you, find
what troubles you.
Yeah, I forgot that exactly.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
And like, and every product can be different too.
It's not necessarily like Imean carbonation in general is
going to cause air, but thereare some products that are
probably going to be.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
What about movement?
Just because I've seen that alot like it can help with like
gas trick empty, empty, that'sstuff we're to say Like, just
like a small walk after dinnerstuff.
I see that happen.
A lot of different culturesthey walk after eating.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Yes, absolutely.
Walking after eating is goingto help your digestion.
If you're just sitting around,your digestion is like going to
be slow, automatically Slow down.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Okay, so you're saying the large Dijorno pizza I
ate with a soda and then sataround and watched Game of
Thrones season eight because Ihate myself.
That wasn't good, for that was.
That was bad.
That was bad for digestion, formental health and just good
phrase.
It's worse for everything.
It's in watching season eightGame of Thrones.
It's horrible for my mentalhealth.
(23:52):
Why did you have to root?
I'm not getting onto that train.
It's fine.
It's fine.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
It is one of those need that and then other times
it does make you feel reallylike garbage.
So a good mix of both walkingdefinitely always will make
someone feel better.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
That's one of the reasons that somebody can vomit
when they're exercise is theyhad a big meal and then they go
exercise and the exercise istaking blood away from the
stomach, because you need theblood and the muscles and stuff
and your stomach needs blood aspart of the digestion process.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
That's the worst.
Have you ever had a big assmeal and then went to the gym?
It's awful, it's terrible.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
The opposite, to like people that aren't feeling
hungry after they work out.
That's because half your likeall your blood is in your
muscles.
It's not even like in your gut.
It's not focused on your gutright now, so you're not even
thinking about food.
I'm never hungry.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
You got the sympathetic system.
There was that fight or flightand then parasympathetic system,
rest and digest.
I remember the basic words frommiddle school or whatever it is
.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
So ask for stress.
Sympathetic is stress, fight orflight, parasympathetic is rest
and digest.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
So yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Yeah, that's Neal.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
When I talk about that and they're like like
they'll ask me about gut healthand I'm honestly, just like that
is where it starts.
Honestly, think about like whenyou're traveling to, when you
travel, your body's under stressand whenever, like if I'm
traveling, like my gut is Ialways bring like more good
things for me, like I alwayspack like fruits and vegetables
or something.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
So I can at least vomit.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
Really good, because whenever I travel my body's like
what the hell is going on, likeyour whole routine's off, like
what?
Yeah, aren't you?
Speaker 1 (25:32):
like so when you travel, you're eating different
foods, right.
Two, because you're going toeat a whole bunch of different
things that you're not used to.
So obviously you're going to belike what the fuck is this?
And then you're also stressedout, probably because you're
traveling, so it feels recipefor disaster.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
Yeah, your body's like where's my bed, where's my
toilet, where's like everything?
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Where's my cat?
I like that we both went thecat.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
Then there's Liam over here, the dogs.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Asson dogs all the way.
Okay, yes, you have to pick uptheir poop, but it's not that
big.
Well, I guess you can pick upas well.
It's just in the box.
That's why I don't have Okay, soyeah, all right.
So I'm stressing less.
I'm drinking water.
I'm trying to get a balanceplate.
As much as I can, chew yourfood thoroughly.
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Go for a walk afterwards.
I'm just trying to roundeverything out.
So, people who already forgotfrom five minutes ago, is that
pretty much sum it up?
Is there anything else you'rethinking of?
I'm just saying anything elseout there, throw it away.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Think start, yeah, focus, just focus on your food
more and eat sitting down a lotmore basic and slow, like the
simple thing you can do for yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
I like it.
I like it.
Okay, now I need to go back towhat I told you earlier.
What's up with these fuckingdragon fruit things that I'm
seeing, with people who are likeeating these whole dragon fruit
seeds or whatever.
Then they're shitting theirbrains out, like I've seen.
I've been seeing a few of thataround and apparently it's like
they also poop out parasites,which are also just the seeds
that they've eaten, like there'sso much to it it's like, got
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levels.
It's got levels of nonsense toit that I love and hate.
So what's up with the seeds andthe fiber thing?
Go ahead.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Okay, I made a video about that and it did really
well and honestly, it's like anyother fruit and vegetable Like
okay, we have soluble fiber andinsoluble fiber.
The soluble fiber bulks up ourstool.
It dissolves in water, it'slike oatmeal.
But then we have insolublefiber that does speed up
digestion more and it absorbswater.
(27:36):
And it doesn't absorb water.
No, it absorbs water.
I'm sorry, okay, that was messy.
It absorbs water.
Okay, the seeds and the skins,like all fruits and vegetables,
are automatically going to haveboth those fibers and no one
needs to know the differencebetween either.
Any of those for the most part,Like, just eat fiber.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Yeah, we started this last week.
Just get both, it's fine,whatever, just eat.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
It's both fruits and vegetables.
Have both.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
But the skins and the seeds have more insoluble fiber
, and insoluble fiber is whatcan.
If you're constipated, that'swhat helps you go to the
bathroom more.
So the people that are eatingall the seeds and those fruits,
one.
They probably aren't used toeating a whole fruit at once,
because you're eating the entirefruit, it's like a whole trend.
Like you eat the whole fruit.
That's a lot more fiber thanyou're probably getting in one
sitting in general, but you'realso eating all the seeds that
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have all the insoluble fiber.
So, yeah, it's just causing youto your body's like I'm not
used to this and then you havediarrhea because it's a lot of.
It's a lot more insoluble firebecause there are more seeds in
it.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Essentially, your butt is like hey, remember that
dragon fruit you ate.
Well, we're gonna go spit firenow.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
Yeah, and it's always like in the comment section.
People are like I know what I'mdoing with my weekend.
I'm like what is your idea offun?
Like this is very strange, butI guess some people are just
real packed up.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Hey, hey, they're on tiktok.
Their idea of fun is sitting onthe toilet scrolling tiktok.
Speaker 1 (28:55):
They're probably constipated on the toilet right
and they see this.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
Yeah, I don't know why people want to do that.
I think they just assume, likeI Mean, they're just assuming
they're bloated, but they mightnot be bloated.
I mean just like I don't know.
Like if you really, if you goto the bathroom and you really
just feel like it's notSatisfying and there's still
something there, you probablyare constipated like you can go
to the bathroom every single day, but you're still constipated
if you're feeling like you'renot going.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
I think that's good advice.
Yeah, like that.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
Yeah, it's like Go to the doctor, like, or just
Honestly, just try it.
Like it's like that's such acommon Thing and like I don't
want people to be taking likemirror locks every day, but like
it's little things like that,and I think a lot of people just
aren't getting enough fiber.
So if you're really justfeeling like shit, it can help.
The other thing, though, islike people with like
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inflammatory bowel disease, ibda lot of people are like
diverticulitis.
Diverticulitis they Don'tnecessarily need more fiber and
like sometimes people need toEat more bland and like peel.
That's why people might say,like heal the skin on the fruit,
peel the skin on the potato,because the potato Skin and
everything's gonna be moreinsoluble fiber it's just an
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animal cyber and you don't needit and like cooking your
vegetables.
A lot of people don't do wellwith raw veggies because yeah,
your body has to break it down.
So if you cook it it's kind ofbreaking it down a little bit
more for you and it's a littlelike gentler on your GI job.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
I've had a lot of people ask me for like hey, I
have IBS, I have Crohn's, I haveall these different things and
I'm like I'm not an expert inthis and also everyone's
different, so I feel like youshould talk to your doctor.
Do you have any just kind oflike yeah, just general tips?
Or like cook your vegetables,maybe try something like peeling
fruits or vegetables.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
When it comes to IBD, like one go get diagnosed if
you have it, because like youare either gonna start out on a
Medication or they're going tohave you on.
If you're like in a flare-up,you need to be on a very bland
diet.
So bland diet, like brat dietthat I don't know if everyone
really knows about, but like thebrat diet when we were sick.
So just like rice, bananas,apples, like very bland food
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You're picking.
Like white rice, white pasta,white bread, because if it's
white doesn't have fiber in it.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
So food that doesn't look pretty.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
Yes, just eat very bland boiled potatoes,
chick-plane chicken breast,things like that, things that
are not going to cause anymovement or anything in your
body, like, just bland.
But when you're not in aflare-up, you do need fiber.
So it's very tricky and likeeven people that are diagnosed
are just so confused becausePeople are like oh well, yeah,
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eat the Mediterranean diet, eatthat, it's good.
And they're like well, aren'tI'm not supposed to eat seeds
and nuts?
I'm like well, it depends ifyou're in a flare-up or not.
If you're in a flare-up, bland.
If you're not in flare-up, youdo want to eat like a balanced,
nutritious diet.
So it really is like that's thebiggest thing.
It's like it's so hard to be onsocial media and try to give
advice.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
Yeah, you know, about someone.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
So all the questions and stuff, it's like I it really
depends.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Like I feel like I have to answer that so much
people ask me like what aboutthis?
Okay, so I have this incrediblyrare disorder that causes these
incredibly rare conditions.
What should I do?
And I'm like, oh, I wouldn'teven know what to start talk
with your doctor, like I'm sorry, I just I don't.
This is social media.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
That's exactly where you start is talk to your doctor
.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
I'm sorry I can't help out.
I'd love to, I just can't.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Yeah, and like I'll get a lot of people saying like
if I talk about gluten orsomething like that, they'll be
like, oh, I'm allergic to gluten.
And then I'm like, are you?
Oh, that's the only act andit's.
I never can really get overthat barrier because I just feel
like sometimes Like theterminology is confusing, so
like I never really know if it'slike oh, I took a food set to
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be test online.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
That it said I was we've gone over those, yeah, you
know.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
So it's like you.
Only I just think it's hard forpeople to like grasp the fact
that, like anyone that's on theinternet telling you like this
is how you should eat, itdoesn't know what they're
talking about, because it's like, honestly, it's dangerous.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Yeah, any.
Any real Dietitian ornutritionist or any anybody
that's talking about food.
Any real one is going to alwaysanswer.
It depends on the person.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
There's no wants people Jesus.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
That's how it works, and also like we have license,
like a license, like we'retrying to not like Jeopardize
anything, we're not trying tohurt anyone.
I feel like people that arejust oh, this is how you do it.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
It's like well, no, that just means you're part of
the government mind controls.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Yeah, I care about no one, but all the money I'm
getting.
Yeah which yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Big pharma.
I just opened my check lastweek and, holy shit, there's so
many zeros.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
Like all zeros.
It's just all zeros.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Like so, all zero if there was only a single
different number, I'd be in thegreen right, you know.
Speaker 2 (33:58):
I'm like a like, a nice one at the start of those
zeros or two.
Yeah, like even that Reactionto gluten that could simply just
be psychosomatic from putsomebody stressing over eating
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something that contains wheat.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
Exactly, and the Europe thing versus yeah.
Erica, like we do like havedifferent wheat we use yeah as a
higher gluten content in inEurope that use soft wheat.
But trust me, you are eatingpasta every single day if you
are living in Italy like, youare eating it and it has gluten
in it.
So if you see that disease, youcan't eat it.
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But yeah.
It is interesting, though, justthe difference between like
soft and hard wheat and how onehas less gluten than the other.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
Well, even like within those recipes, a lot of
the Pasta kid might end up beingmade with the hard wheat anyway
, or, like Durham wheat doeshave plenty of gluten in it
Mm-hmm, like it's not magicallygluten-free or anything.
And the softer wheat, sir,usually used for like pastries
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and stuff, just because, again,less gluten.
You don't need it as much in asofter pastry.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
Yeah, and it's just like everything else in our diet
.
Like I mean, a lot of peopleare just not eating right, so
they're just not gonna feel asgood, but I think it's like
People assume that if I eatgluten-free it's healthier.
when it's like, yeah, I thinkit's kind of goes into the whole
demonizing carbs thing andpeople not really understanding
what carbs are and notunderstanding what gluten is, so
(35:44):
they're just putting them allin the same category, like, oh,
it's cars, yeah, but it's likeno, carbs are like fruit carbs
or milk like if you haven't seenit, I highly recommend looking
up the South Park gluten episode.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
It's so great.
Speaker 2 (35:59):
Oh that it, that was so good.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
It's so.
It just makes your dick fly offlike that's.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
Gluten.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Off into the sunset.
Everyone, nobody realizedwhat's in it.
People are eating soy sauce anddrinking beer like, yeah,
fucking gluten sucks.
That's why I avoid it.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
It's so great like people just like it was an
amazing episode.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
Hang on.
Very time I I work with likenewly diagnosed celiac patients
all the time.
Or I also like just work withpeople.
They're like, yeah, I took outgluten because it makes me feel
better.
I'm like, okay, what is glutento you?
Because have you looked at likeyour condiments, like if it's
just bread?
Speaker 1 (36:34):
if the answer is bread, then we need to go in a
little deeper, because it isn'teverything, but it's and so,
okay, here I've this, it's, I'vethis theory, basically like
okay, so we always demonizesomething, right, and so let's
just take we're gonna takegluten for an example, right?
So people say I'm gonna removeall gluten.
So what are they?
What are they?
Less stuff, less of.
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You know cookies, cakes, youknow, like all of the, you know
those, ultra processed,delicious with muffins, whatever
it is.
And then they feel better andthey're like, oh, it's because
of the gluten, when really theyjust started eating more of a
balanced diet.
But yeah, this is where, likeand I think we all agree on that
, but this is when companies arelike, oh, people are eating
gluten-free, so we're gonna makegluten-free Oreos, we're gonna
(37:17):
make gluten-free muffins, we'regonna make gluten-free bread,
we're gonna make all thesethings gluten-free.
And then people start, you know, eating those, and then they
just again, they're doubt, theirdiet becomes less balanced and
they feel like shit, and so wehave to move on to the next
thing now.
Now we have to figure out whatthe next thing that's killing us
, so that will then eat a morebalanced diet.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
It always just comes back to a fucking cycle.
So you click thing, yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (37:39):
Don't even know why companies would do that.
It's more expensive for themand also like it's like honestly
for your gut health, likeeating gluten, like snack, like
foods, those like gums and stuffwe're not really sure like they
could cause like an issue forpeople with, like IBD.
They can also just like makeyou not feel good, like I know
(38:01):
they cause a lot more like gasand stuff for me, like I don't
do that usually, but like theyput fillers in it to mimic Bread
or mimic, the, to make it thattexture exactly and it's like
fairly better for you.
You're just putting moreadditives in it.
It's like same with, like Dairyfree milk, like it's not that
it's bad for you, but it's alsojust like you don't really need
(38:21):
to have the gums in it when youcould just be eating, drinking
milk from a cow or eating.
And I think it really dependson the person because, like with
gums and stuff.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
I've never had a problem.
I've used like Santham gum andgore gum and things.
I have no problems.
Then again I can eat like 100plus grams of fiber and eat
basically anything and betotally okay.
But you know you have you knowsome gums whatever and like I've
talked to people like thatdestroys my gut.
I'm like yeah, so I would notrecommend that.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
I had, like I had literally two packages of those
smart sweets.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
Today yeah, I know, I'm just going to tell myself
it's like 20-20-20 grams offiber.
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:56):
Oh, those are gummies .
Speaker 1 (38:58):
Yeah, they look good.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
I meant to look those up Interesting.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
Well, no, so the gummies?
So the sugar-free gummy bearsuse multital and stuff like that
, which is sugar alcohols, andthat fucks people up.
For a different reason, thesmart sweets in the lilies'
gummies is high in fiber, andthat fucks people up because
people are eating like 10 gramsof fiber in a day.
And then you triple that withone package.
So everything's fucking.
It's just.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
My body just does better with fiber from real food
than like the added to fiber.
A lot of people in my comments.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
Tell that to me as soon as I try those fiber-added
things, whether it's a greenspowder or whatever.
Oh, that's what we got to talkabout Gaps.
Can you tell everyone just toavoid the greens powder?
I need backup because I goafter greens powders a lot and
people come after me Not a lot.
Most people are on my side, butthere's some people that are not
, so I need you to tell them tofuck off and that greens powder
(39:52):
is our dog shit and they shouldavoid them.
Please go ahead, oh man, inyour own terms.
Speaker 3 (39:57):
Shit if you drink greens powder or not, but don't
think it's going to do anythingfor you, it's just you're
drinking water.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
It's a fucking vitamin Like holy shit.
Speaker 3 (40:06):
I need to drink water .
Speaker 2 (40:09):
So, funny enough, when I was talking to Brian
Littlefield of Jocko Fuel aboutour upcoming 25th episode which,
spoiler alert Jocko Fuel issponsoring a giveaway for our
25th episode coming up here andeverybody who is a member of our
(40:32):
Patreon is automaticallyentered.
You don't even have to buymembership on the Patreon.
That includes the free peopleEverybody that's a member of our
Patreon.
We're just going to randomlyselect one member to receive
this gift package when we go torecord our 25th episode, which
(40:54):
will be at the end of the monthhere.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
It's a button, but I was talking to click it Like
it's not.
I know you're lazy, but goddamnguys like go like, click.
Okay, now I'm entered.
That's all you got to do.
It's not hard.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
All you got to do, you know.
So I was talking to Brian andone of the things we talked
about was greens powders, and wewere talking about, like, if
the first ingredient on the listof these green powders is soy
lecithin, it's garbage, just afiller.
It's just filler, yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:25):
I will say I do have like I've never bought greens
powder but I do like like JockoFuel stuff and I got greens
powder from them because I wascurious and it tastes really
good and it's.
The first ingredient is not soylecithin.
I think the issue with a lot ofthe greens patterns is there,
the whole proprietary blend,where they're just a bunch of
random shit in there and it'slike all and it's not really
(41:47):
doing anything.
But I also will say when Itraveled I went to travel and
like visit my friend and I.
It's been a long time sinceI've like had other people feed
me, where I don't really havemuch control.
And I wasn't like hand or justlike they just say come on not
(42:11):
going to go in there for edgeand start eating carrot.
Weird.
So like I wasn't eating as manyveggies and I did have it with
me and like, trust me, I wasn'treally getting a lot of
vegetables, but like the mindset, that's where it comes in again
.
So it's like sometimes if youwant to waste your money on a
greens powder, it's going tomake you feel better, like go
for it, but it's also just likeunderstand that it's probably.
Well, it's definitely not theequivalent to like fruits and
(42:33):
vegetables.
Speaker 1 (42:34):
Not even close, like it's a different stratosphere,
like a whole shit.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
And if it's got proprietary blends on it, throw
it in the trash.
Speaker 1 (42:43):
I will never buy anything that says proprietary
blend on it.
For anybody listening,proprietary blends.
Just they have like a number, abig number, it's like 8,000
milligrams, and then they got8,000 things below it, so it's
like one milligram of each.
It's nonsense.
Speaker 2 (42:57):
Yeah, like I'm going to go ahead and call out
athletic greens here.
Because, like if you ever lookat their thing?
I know off the top of my headthey've got the, the mushroom
proprietary blend, and it's likeall of these mushrooms and the
entire thing is like two grams,three grams one or the other,
and the effective dose ofshiitake mushrooms alone is one
(43:20):
to two grams.
So the entire mushroom complexis two grams.
There's no way you can have aneffective dose of the shiitake
mushrooms and all these othermushrooms.
Speaker 3 (43:31):
Yeah, they're picking things that are like whatever's
up and coming, whatever theywant to talk about, like Zhang
Sierlina Kale, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (43:41):
Fucking cordyceps like you become fucking the last
of us.
It's nonsense.
This bullshit is what it is.
Speaker 3 (43:46):
And put them in there and like the longer the list.
It's just so scary.
But there's a reason whythere's like research on each of
those ingredients.
There's a clinical dose to havethe effect that they're like
claiming.
Speaker 1 (43:54):
It just doesn't make sense and it's always a
minuscule amount on the thingcompared to what the effective
dose is.
It's not, and it costs like ahundred and fifty dollars.
Who is buying this?
Who has all of this money butno brains?
How are they still in business?
I have so many questions whenit comes to athletics and people
still defend them.
I went after them.
(44:15):
I had somebody stitch me and goit's for athletes, not for you,
dummy.
I'm like fuck you, theseathletes.
Yeah, they have money.
That's why they buy it, becausethey have fucking money and no
brains to go along with it.
It's bullshit.
Athletic Boom athletic.
If you can't get my nuance, Idon't like them.
That's, that's basically yeah.
Speaker 3 (44:37):
And then they'll put like probiotics and prebiotics
and it's like you're it's fine,but it's just not like you want
to waste your money on it.
It's just kind of crazy to mebecause I'm like sometimes I sit
back and I'm like I can make somuch money.
Speaker 1 (44:48):
Oh fuck Guys guys, Listen, listen to me.
Listen to me If I ever sellathletic greens.
It's a call for help.
They asked me to blink twice.
There's someone in my house.
I need you to come rescue me.
Some shit has gone down, got it.
Speaker 3 (45:03):
But even just like making a supplement like or
making some like random dietplan.
I said I'm like it could be soeasy because I just the people,
things, people think and I wouldnever do that to people.
But it's like a lot of peoplethat are selling these things
have no like nutritionbackground.
That is business and they'resmart.
Speaker 1 (45:21):
They're just selling money.
It's just about making money,all money.
Speaker 2 (45:25):
Yeah, speaking speaking of making money,
there's those gut microbiometests that some people sell,
like the.
I was thinking it was lastepisode with Shaila got my life
50 cent or the 50 cell brainbrain challenge.
(45:45):
Oh yeah 50 cell brain challenge, whatever it is, it's not that
hard.
You've already lost all yourbrain cells.
Speaker 3 (45:53):
You can't even say what, it's already lost.
Speaker 1 (45:55):
Brain cell challenge, where you only have 50 brain
cells and you lose brain cellfor every ingredient or two
brain cells.
Speaker 2 (46:00):
Whenever you come up with that guy, that guy Josh,
josh, whatever Josh somethingWell, he also.
He.
One of his main things he sellsis gut microbiome testing.
Speaker 1 (46:12):
Oh, that's smart.
Speaker 2 (46:13):
That's smart lost whatever is in, just sell a test
for it.
Speaker 1 (46:18):
So it's like gut microbiome is in, just sell a
test for it.
That's genius.
Speaker 2 (46:23):
And there is literally no evidence as to what
a healthy gut microbiome issupposed to look like.
Like what is he?
What are you measuring?
Speaker 1 (46:35):
it against.
You know what I would startselling, because I know what's
going to come in.
You know what?
I'd start selling Healthypeople's poop.
Yeah, I would totally get likethe healthiest people,
attractive people to, becausethey got to be attractive,
obviously, and then I would selltheir poop because I need to
say that's actually a thing.
No, I know it's like anybodylistening?
No, no, no, poop, poop,transplants, I don't know.
(46:55):
Whatever they call it, it's avehicle transplants.
Vehicle transplants is 100percent of the thing and there
actually is like some evidencethat like, if you take somebody
who's got all fucked up and thenyou give them the bacteria
that's in the poop of the peopleand they don't just like shove
poop up.
Speaker 2 (47:07):
Yeah, that's for somebody who's like completely
fucked up, oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:11):
No.
So they there's and they put,like they distill it down to do
things I don't know Scienceystuff, and then they put the
poop up there with with othersciencey things and then they
feel better.
But me I would just be like,listen, I'm just going to send
you a bag of somebody'sattractive, healthy person's
poop.
You throw it up there and youfeel better.
That's I mean.
Speaker 3 (47:28):
I might get troubles in FDA or something I don't know
.
Speaker 1 (47:31):
I don't know what the deal is with that, but that's,
that's good, I would make memoney.
It would make me money.
Speaker 3 (47:35):
Oh, so you're supposed to avoid anything with
more than three ingredients?
Speaker 2 (47:39):
Is what you're looking up to.
Speaker 1 (47:42):
Oh, anything with more than three ingredients.
So salsa is out.
I can't.
Speaker 2 (47:47):
Yeah, pretty much anything that has flavor is out
OK, because every single spiceyou put in something is an
ingredient.
Speaker 1 (47:54):
So can I have mixed spices Gables, or can I only
have spices that have one spice?
Speaker 3 (47:58):
Well, well, I'm surprised you didn't like
highlight.
I'm going to butcher thispronunciation Karin, Karin, you
got Karin, Fuck what's it calledKaradinen.
Karadinen.
I was looking like he didn'thighlight that, but he
highlighted, like everything.
Speaker 1 (48:14):
You?
Normally people go afterKaradinen hard.
That's interesting yeah.
Speaker 3 (48:17):
Yeah, I mean, I think it's really hard.
Anything like testing wise.
You really have to be carefulwhere like getting it, because
it's sometimes people will likedo oh, like feets and stupid
testing, oh, everly well, orwhatever.
Like the people like sometimesyou just get it and they just
assume that you're going to takeout everything red, but it's
not necessarily one like yourbody might have just reacted to
(48:40):
that at different time in yourlife and you just have built
antibodies for it and you'refine now and it's like that's
why I'm saying like chew yourfucking food and like stop
stressing out, because it's likestart there, like you don't
necessarily get a whole foodgroup.
Speaker 1 (48:56):
I love you to get like a shirt games you need to
be like fuck greens powders,chew your food and relax
motherfucker Like that's whatyou need, because it has like no
one will ever do it.
Oh man For greens powders.
Chew your food and sit down,motherfucker.
That's what I want.
I want that on a T shirt.
I'll buy it, I'll pay for it.
Speaker 3 (49:18):
There are mug or something they like.
Don't need to take out a foodgroup you might like you might
feel better out.
If you feel better Like, that'sfine.
We don't need to take outmultiple food groups when you're
going to miss.
Just don't listen to anythingjust randomly that you're
getting.
If someone's giving you a testand they can't even explain the
test, then I would say don't doit.
Speaker 1 (49:39):
No, they told me the test would be good for anti
inflammation and leaky gut.
That's so.
It's good.
Speaker 2 (49:47):
Like I said, there's there's no evidence as to what
you're measuring this against,and people from different areas
of the world are naturally goingto have different gut
microbiomes because they areliving ecosystems that diversify
based on what you're eating.
I'm telling you guys we are allthis.
Speaker 1 (50:05):
This entire podcast really just comes down to
teaching people how to makemoney off bullshit Like I think
whether it's us or somebodylistening that every week,
they're going to be like oh wait, a gut microbiome test.
Add that to the list, Check nogreens.
Yeah, food sensitivity,absolutely.
And then they're just going toget rich.
Speaker 2 (50:26):
That's make it rain, that money.
Speaker 1 (50:28):
They're going to shout us out when they're a
fucking millionaire off sellingbullshit.
Speaker 2 (50:31):
They're like.
Speaker 1 (50:32):
I listen in moderation and they just told me
everything I needed to do tomake money off of nonsense.
Speaker 3 (50:37):
And it's like I would be much better off with more
variety in it, because there'sdifferent nutrients in every
food and we want to feed our gutbacteria.
If we don't, if we're notgetting enough food, we're not
feeding our gut at all.
So it's like why are you takingout?
Like I honestly love the namepodcast.
I feel like I probably likeupset some people because every
time I say like, oh, eatmoderation.
They're like shut the fuck up.
(50:58):
But like I really do like it.
I just feel like people don'tget it.
Speaker 2 (51:02):
Like I think it's so important.
Speaker 1 (51:04):
No, that's why we made the podcast, so people
would sit down and get it.
Speaker 3 (51:09):
It could be so much more for people and they are
just stressing over and thinkingthere's like one right way,
when there's just not and it'sall individual.
Speaker 2 (51:19):
Everything ends up being in black and white to a
lot of people.
They can't see that middleground that exists.
Speaker 3 (51:26):
Yeah, that's like one thing I feel like I learned in
like school.
I was always so annoyed when Ihad like I don't know where
you're at in school land, butlike case studies for like
patients, because you wouldlearn about all these diseases
and then get case study and belike, oh the diseases.
And you'd be like, oh my God.
So you get really stressed andthen my teacher is like, yeah,
it's just not going to be blackand white and it's never, ever
going to be black and white andI was like, ok, oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (51:46):
You know, it really is just never nothing.
No, no.
Speaker 1 (51:50):
I love that the end of every podcast, every end of
every end of every episode.
We just end up just likecomplaining about the bullshit
at the end that we see.
It's just like also here's howto eat in moderation, but here's
all the fuck weasels that willtell you that you have to do
this.
And it's just us.
This is, but it's cathartic ina way.
It's just being like fuck thosepeople.
I need to say something becauseit just drives me crazy.
Speaker 3 (52:12):
Yeah, and it's like yeah.
They're not.
They're not sure about things.
They're just as scared of thefood as you are now.
Like they are fearful in theirbrain, their fear on other
people, and it's like you're.
If we're going to be fearingfood so much, we're not even
helping our gut one and you'rejust relationship with food in
general.
Like you don't need to bestressed about food.
There's not like, oh, I have toeat this, I have to eat this,
(52:33):
and like if I eat this I'mscrewed, you're probably fine.
Yeah, like people just don'trealize how the human body I'm
going to go.
Speaker 1 (52:40):
right now you eat some peanut M&M's to get my
different colors in.
Speaker 2 (52:47):
I got a bag of skittles right here All the
rainbow tastes the rain.
Speaker 1 (52:54):
I like peanut M&M's.
I need the peanut in there.
It's got that crunch.
I like that, I like that I dolike?
Yeah, I do like the.
M&m's best M&M.
Let's end the podcast with that.
Everybody, if there's one thingyou take from that, it's peanut
M&M best M&M.
Good night, good night.
Speaker 2 (53:14):
Never mind any other topics that we might want to get
to.
Speaker 1 (53:18):
No, we're done.
Speaker 2 (53:18):
Peanut M&M done.
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