Roundtable: Unmasking Health Myths with Laughter and Insight

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Here in Texas my health care options are behind a
barn.
They said they could take meout back now or they could.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Or later.

Speaker 1 (00:08):
Or later.
Yeah, those were the only twooptions they gave me.

Speaker 3 (00:12):
And they just put you down.
Is that the only option?
That's pretty much.

Speaker 4 (00:15):
You know, I bet you could probably find some
slightly shady vets that wouldhelp you out if you needed to.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
Honestly, though, like vets, what Name one
difference between any animaland a human Like?
There's really none.

Speaker 4 (00:30):
A cow has like eight stomachs.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
Okay, besides name 12 more, like there's basically no
differences.
A vet, I'm sure, could takecare of a human well enough.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
If anybody's out there listening is uh willing to
try this.
If you're a vet and you want togive one of those four stomachs
?

Speaker 4 (00:49):
it's probably four stomachs, but yeah it seems like
a lot.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
I don't remember how?

Speaker 4 (00:54):
let's go with four.
How many okay?

Speaker 1 (00:56):
let's split the difference call it six hey, good
enough you heard it here firston in moderation, where
everything is checked and wedon't make anything up the cows
have one stomach with fourcompartments or chambers, so I
guess it's one stomach.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
But they got.

Speaker 5 (01:10):
They got parts to their stomach like we got parts
to our heart, you know whatalways bothers me is the fact
that we have got three compartor I don't know if you call them
compartments on one of ourlungs and then two on the other.
Why are our lungs uneven?

Speaker 3 (01:26):
I fuck, I don't remember what the, the thought
reasoning behind that or thetheories behind that was what?

Speaker 4 (01:33):
the fuck.
Liam, you're right, it's onestomach in four chambers one
stomach.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
Yeah, I'm right, because I google shit, that's
basically all you have to do.
He's fast on the google youjust fucking just like man.
It's always like do your ownresearch, like your research was
fucking nothing, just googlethat shit dummy and your lungs
are different sizes because theyhave to.

Speaker 4 (01:52):
Your heart takes up space.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
Yes oh is, is that?
Why three?
So it's like the one on theright you have three lobes
because it's bigger and sobecause your heart's on the left
, sort of.
Yeah, I feel like that's whatit is, should we?

Speaker 1 (02:04):
introduce everybody?
Oh, I guess we should.
Uh, do we already start?
Should we start?

Speaker 3 (02:08):
hey, everybody welcome to episode 69 plus.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
Oh, fuck four can you hear me, okay, yeah, okay.
Every time I've connected mymicrophone, it's always just a
disaster for me oh, we're fine,I think it's 69 plus four.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
So I'm gonna go with that, because we go just for
yeah, for andy and gabs who arehere, we go base 69, so 69 minus
this plus whatever, and we'reon plus four right now, I
believe.
But how you guys doing good, howare you super duper dude oh man
, I just got back from cosi,which my daughter wakes up at
like seven in the morning.
I'm like, okay, go to the gym,work out for a little bit while

(02:44):
fucking people watch her.
And then, you know, basicallygo to the museum every day,
because that's the only thingthis kid will fucking enjoy is
just there's tons of differentthings.
T-rex, look, that's awesome.
Next thing keep going, that'sreally my whole.
And then I run back here, shovethings into my face like people
are talking about, like oh, Imake a whole meal.
No, no, no.
I get home I grab dates out ofmy cow, out of my cabinet, and

(03:07):
peanut butter and a spoon and Ijust eat a date and I shove
peanut butter in there and I'llgrab like a fair life for like
extra protein and that's it.

Speaker 5 (03:16):
You're doing better than me.
I had a peanut butter cookiefor breakfast.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
I honestly, I'm not doing well right now.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
I kind of want to eat rotisserie chicken those are
fucking lifesavers when you'rejust like, oh, here we go, food
it needs, like it has to just beready.
It has to be ready like setyourself up for success by just
already having things like in mydrawer like I always talk about
, like the dry roasted edamame.
What else do I have here?
Fucking things, I droppistachios, like all right,

(03:42):
that's the things I can justtake and then put into my face
hole and then I'm good.
And then none of this.
Like I see so many fuckingrecipes where it's like did it's
like I just found out, if youand it just goes on for like
five minutes, you're like youadd this and then you saute that
, you flambe this.
Like what the fuck?
Who are you and why do you haveall this time?

(04:03):
I need, I need food, like readynow.
So avocado toast, thank you.

Speaker 4 (04:08):
I have a piece of bread, toaster, avocado it's
like maybe they have time forthat because someone else is
watching their children yeah,like I got fucking, like you
know the whole I'm the only onein my house watching my kids, so
that's not gonna happen.

Speaker 3 (04:20):
Imagine what do you go to?
Okay, what do you go to whenyou have fucking no time?
You're just like all right, I'mfood now Go.
Freezer meals Freezer meals,like do you have a specific
brand you go with or a specifictype, or are you just like
whatever, whatever's on sale?

Speaker 4 (04:34):
Yeah, yeah, there's some healthy choice ones that
don't suck the real good onesbrand.
Yeah, it's like real good, realgood ones are okay, you know,
the real.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
Like the real, like the real good food they're
trying to be higher in protein.

Speaker 3 (04:50):
The real bad ones suck why they keep making those
I have people tell me those allthe time, like they have the
different chickens and stuff.
It's like lightly breaded orwhatever, like I haven't gotten
those yet because I just I onlylike a ton of chicken.
But but yeah, I always go withthe bird's eye power blends.
That's my go-to.
I just throw that shit in themicrowave for five minutes and
then I'm good.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
As someone who's lost 110 pounds, my meals have to be
quick or I'm not going to makethem Right.
It's everything I make on aregular basis for the most part,
unless I want to get fancy withsomething or I want to try
something which is rare.
My meals take maybe 10 minutesmax, and a lot of that is just
like heating something up andwalking away from it.

(05:33):
That's it.
It's it doesn't it doesn't seton fire.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
Microwave potatoes.

Speaker 3 (05:40):
Microwave potato.
Oh bro, microwave potatoes isfucking shit.
So so, listen, I usually likejust kind of wash it a little
bit because like I don't knowdirt or something whatever, and
then I pierce it like a fewtimes with a knife or fork, wrap
it in paper towel and then Ithrow it in for like five
minutes.
If it's one of those likemassive potatoes, it'll take
like more, like 10 and then youjust cut that shit open.
You put whatever on there.

(06:00):
You know what I just hadyesterday for a video?
You know what I did Tuna andbeans, beans and tuna fish on
the brief.
So there's okay.
So there's jacket potatoes.
You ever heard of jacketpotatoes?
It's a British thing.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
I'm leaving.

Speaker 3 (06:16):
Okay, good, see you later, Mike.
So typically it's beans or liketuna and corn, but like some
places, I was like they do beansand they do tuna at the same
time and I was like I like allthree of those things, so, ergo,
I should like them together.

Speaker 5 (06:34):
Was it good or was it weird?

Speaker 3 (06:35):
I should go mmm, but yes, to answer your question, it
wasn't actually that bad Like Iactually enjoyed it it was, but
it is a little weird.
I think you should go tuna orbeans anyway.
The point is you can throwwhatever on a fucking potato,
like tuna and corn is actuallypretty good, or beans, and then
you do, you know, like somecheese or salt and pepper, boom
whatever.

Speaker 4 (06:54):
Oh, if you made like a, if you put some like like
taco seasoning on chicken andbeans and cheese and put on a
potato I like that.

Speaker 3 (07:01):
I like the taco seasoning thing, because like
seasoning is already like in thepacket or whatever.
You know what I'm saying.
You don't have to be like makeyour own taco seasonings.
Get the fuck out of here.
I'm not making my own tacoseasoning.
Are you shitting me?
This is it's 2025 and I'm goingto be sitting here being like
okay, a dash of cumin and likeno absolutely not.

Speaker 4 (07:19):
I didn't do that when I was motivated and not a
single parent.

Speaker 3 (07:23):
I don't think I've ever done that, I don't think I
ever will do that, but you coulddo like a pizza thing.
What if you did like cheese andlike pepperoni or like other
pizza toppings or something likethat?

Speaker 4 (07:31):
That would be really good.
Potatoes are like the miraclefood.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
They are.

Speaker 3 (07:36):
You cannot go wrong with a potato, I'm so satisfied
every time I eat a potato Right,I've never had potato.
It's it's like five bucks andyou get whatever three college
especially.
Yeah, if you're broke potatoesand shit man, um, okay, what's
what do you think's most likeunderrated food for?
Like health-wise, what do youthink?
I got already got something inmind so you can pick, either

(07:57):
like an individual food is yoursor no it's not shut up, no, um
or like a meal, like what?

Speaker 2 (08:05):
Edamame.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
Edamame is also really good.
That is bean.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
You stole mine Protein and fiber.

Speaker 3 (08:12):
And healthy fats.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
And it's easy.
You can just buy it frozen andthen yeah, and healthy fats.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
I mean, it's really got everything, except for it's
got soy, which destroys youreverything.
According to social media,Pretty much everything.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
All it does is destroy my fucking comment
section.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
Yeah, it's the only thing it's ever ruined.

Speaker 4 (08:31):
And you can entertain children because you can pop
them out of the pod.

Speaker 3 (08:37):
Now I did have someone comment to me.
I think I met no, I met them inperson and they're like I tried
the edamame and it wasn't good.
And it turns out they weretrying to eat the pod.
So you don't eat the pod, youjust they're not snap peas.
No, they're not snap peasexactly.
You have to just like pop thelittle you know edamame out of
the pod.
What I find interesting is ifyou don't say soy, if you just

(08:57):
say edamame, you won't even getcomments about soy, because
people don't even fucking know Ijust messed that.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
I just messed that up .
I just said oh, it's not anallergen.
Yeah, people don't think aboutit.

Speaker 3 (09:05):
Yeah, yeah, so it's like people don't even know it's
soy, but you say like soy milkor one of those other ones.
That's when your comment sectionfucking lights up with oh it's
terrible for this and that, likeyou don't even know what's
super.
You know what's superunderrated burritos.
I gotta say I feel like theburrito is like crazy underrated

(09:28):
just for either weight loss oror health or whatever, because
like you just throw whatever youwant in there, obviously you
get like the low carb ones withlike extra fiber, but even if
you don't, like.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
Can I just give a quick shout out to if anybody's
looking for a lower calorie,higher fiber alternative to
tortilla wraps like the carbsmart ones or the whole wheat
ones that I?
I think they're pressing themout of cardboard in a pasta
press like.
They're just like fibrous anddisgusting.
The only good ones in that I'vebeen able to find are the
extreme wellness wraps extremeas top tier, that's the best,

(10:01):
but they're soft mission hasmission.

Speaker 3 (10:03):
Has the like white flour ones that are not whole
wheat and are also high fiber ohreally high protein oh okay, I
usually see carb counter okay,so I probably have to try it
because the extreme wellnessones are 50 to 60 calories.

Speaker 1 (10:19):
I think it's 12 grams of fiber I know and they're
really soft like you can foldthem, bend them.
They don't crack like some ofthe other ones do how much?

Speaker 2 (10:27):
I don't know how they do it are they cheap, like
mission ones?

Speaker 3 (10:31):
I actually don't know how much I think they might be
a little bit more expensive, buttypically when I go to my store
it's like four or five dollarsfor a pack.

Speaker 4 (10:36):
Yeah, they're like and they make a mean, mean
quesadilla yeah, cheese in there, that's good.

Speaker 3 (10:44):
Oh, you know what you can do.
I saw this, I did this once.
Uh, you, you throw them in thetoaster.
So you just like, fold up thesides and then fold up the top,
make it into like a hot pocketand you do like cheese, or you
do uh what's another?
one.
Yeah, fucking hot pockets, man.
My problem with the hot pockets, though, is you bite into it
and then it's scalding hot.
And then you give it a secondand then it's ice cold.
Other parts are ice cold.
I hate that shit.

(11:05):
Um, but like banana and peanutbutter, that's what you throw in
the wrap together, smash it,toaster boom air fryer.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
I think air fryer was the best investment I ever made
, because it cooks so muchfaster and it's just so easy and
you can't mess it up.
I feel like when you put thingsin the air fryer and we're
talking about potatoes you justthrow everything in the air
fryer.
I just press the steak buttonor the vegetable button, and
then I leave it and then I comeback.
It's done.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
I like the.
So like, air fryer fries aregood, but like the fingerling
potatoes man, you cut thosefucking things in half, throw
them on a sheet or whatever,throw them in the air fryer oil
seasoning so good people forgetthat, like potatoes, have fiber
in them that's because I thinkwe've been taught it's all
fucking instant insulin inducing, fucking simple carbs or

(11:52):
whatever that's.

Speaker 4 (11:53):
That's what I see well, and then for leftovers,
potatoes become resistant starch.
So it's just like you cannot gowrong with this potato.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
I'm just so sick of the potato hate the reason why
we think that they're sounhealthy isn't because of the
potato itself, it's because ofthe way that they're often
prepared.
I guess if you're only eatingfries, then, yes, there's going
to be a lot of extra caloriesinvolved.

Speaker 5 (12:16):
Slathering it in butter.

Speaker 1 (12:18):
I'm sorry.
I challenge anybody listeningto us right now to eat one of
those giant, giant potato, likeone of the ones where you can't
wrap your whole hand around it,and it's 300 calories max for
that whole thing have you guysever had a japanese sweet potato
?
No, I think so.
Oh my god purple ones.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
No, there's the purple ones and then there's the
japanese ones.
They're more like, they'reyellowy inside and they taste
more buttery and sweeter.
And then you put butter on.
They're more like, they'reyellowy inside and they taste
more buttery and sweeter.
And then you put butter on.
They're so good.

Speaker 1 (12:49):
Oh, that looks great.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
It's so good they make the best fries.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
Do you have to like special order this or go to a?

Speaker 2 (12:54):
store.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
You have to fly to.

Speaker 5 (12:56):
Japan go out to the fields, pick one yourself.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
Not the same as a sack of potatoes, but they're
really good yeah, this issomething I'd definitely try
pretty much any potato I'm inlike sweet potatoes.

Speaker 3 (13:11):
Man, it's fucking just so good.
I've seen like this I've beenwanting to make a little
recently people tag me in itlike sweet potato toast.
I've seen like mariana ofmariana's, like you know she's
she made a few of these.
You just slice them up and somepeople throw them in the
fucking toaster and I feel likeI'm calling bullshit.
I don't feel like.
I feel like they'll burn beforethey'll cook, but I'm going to
give it a try.
You slice them up and then, youknow, just throw them right in
the toaster and then addwhatever you usually do to toast

(13:34):
, Like, I don't know, avocado orwhatever.

Speaker 4 (13:37):
Pumpkin pie spice.
Oh man yeah.

Speaker 3 (13:40):
It's because you got cinnamon.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
Oh, you know what I used to do.
I would microwave a sweetpotato, just like you would
microwave a regular potato in acup, and then I would mash it
down with a fork.
Stick with me here.
It's going to get weird.

Speaker 3 (13:55):
There's chocolate in there, coco, you're making a
cake.

Speaker 1 (13:59):
I would put some, so I'd mash it up like a regular
mashed potato.
I'd mash it up like a regularmashed potato.
I'd put some sugar-free maplesyrup in there and cinnamon,
pumpkin spice which is what yousaid before and peanut butter.
Oh no, that sounds really good,though I can see that it freaks
a bunch of people out when yousay it at first, but all of you,

(14:19):
you're enlightened, so you know.
It just adds a nice creamytexture to it.
It's like a sweet potato pie ina cup and I used to have that
before workouts and it wasfantastic you'll never be
allowed in canada with thatsugar free syrup no passports.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
Right now I can't leave anyway you don't even need
a passport soon, it's fine thismight be more involved than
what we're thinking, butsomething I do when I want a
meal that looks prepared butit's not really.
Um, I get a frozen thing ofbutternut squash and then I thaw
it and then I get a blender andI put that in the blender with

(14:55):
like it's different every time,like chicken broth and then
spices.
I'll do like nutritional yeastsalt what are we doing?
here.
Yes, it can be a soup, but youcan also make it into a sauce
okay, depending on how muchchicken broth you put in.
And then I make a pot of pastaand then I put the cooked pasta

(15:16):
in like a little casserole dishand then I pour the sauce over
it and then I put it in the ovenwith like breadcrumbs on top,
and then, if you have leftoversauce, I either put it in the
freezer to make soup out of iteventually, or I put it on a
potato and make like a bakedpotato kind of situation, and if

(15:36):
you want to add cheese to it,you can I like the sauce thing?

Speaker 3 (15:38):
What I would add to that.
The other thing I would put inthere is like nutritional yeast.
I didn't say that.
Did you say that?
All right, I missed it.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
I was actually about to mention, like, how much of a
hack nutritional yeast is,because you had said that and it
just lit up in my mind.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
Oh, and cashews sometimes.

Speaker 3 (15:54):
Oh, cashews is a good one, that's a good one.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
Nutritional yeast, butternut squash, chicken broth.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
If you can really do anything, add herbs and so, and
now, with like all the differentlike pasta options, you're like
, oh, if I get gluten intolerantor whatever, then you get the
bonza pasta, which is really theonly like good chickpea pasta
honestly, in my opinion it'sstill not great, but like it's
the best one.
Or there's all sorts ofdifferent like pasta I just got
I just found light pasta rightnow which is like has like 100
calories and like 15 grams offiber.

(16:32):
Like they're just adding fiberto everything and I'm like
totally in on it, I lovewhatever has anybody here had
the brahmi pasta lupini beans isthat?

Speaker 1 (16:41):
no, it's like insane fiber, but lupini beans have,
like nuts, amount of fiber inthem yeah, a lot of fiber, a lot
of protein and it tastes everybit as good as regular pasta.
I've got like 10 boxes of itanytime it's done.

Speaker 3 (16:55):
I I was like super skeptical.
What is it lupini?

Speaker 1 (16:59):
uh, yeah, it's uh called brahmi b-r-a-m-i andI.
I've been eating, in terms ofpasta, nothing but that, for
months now.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
Another lupini pasta is Kaizen.
I've never heard of this one,though.

Speaker 3 (17:13):
That's the one I was thinking of.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
It's so impressive how much protein and fiber is in
it.
That's the.

Speaker 3 (17:16):
Brami, I was thinking of.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
You've got to really warn people, though I feel like
so many people don't realizethat and then they're like I was
having diarrhea, like oh yeah,fiber.

Speaker 1 (17:28):
And then so they're not used to having 50 grams of
fiber in a day and suddenly theygot a call out of work.

Speaker 3 (17:31):
How do you?
Only?
Because the average americangets 10 to 15.
How do you only get 10 to 15?
So, like you wake up like asugary cereal, like I don't know
, like rice krispies orsomething.
I guess you're not getting anythere.
Um, then like white candy bar,okay, I guess.

Speaker 4 (17:46):
Yeah, white white bread, if you do like a white
bread, a white pasta, if youdon't eat any fruits and
vegetables okay.

Speaker 3 (17:55):
So yeah, if you're on fruits and vegetables out like
it's gotta be all just likesuper, ultra, like raw but
refined, yeah, but if it's, it'sif you only focus on like
refined grains or don't eat anyfruits and vegetables.
I guess you eat a lot of meatso you also eat a lot of meat.
You don't get a lot of meatpeople also just think fibers
fruit, fruits and veggies.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
So they don't think about like fiber sources are
whole grains, so like wholewheat, toast, whole wheat pasta,
fruit, vegetables, beans, nuts,seeds.
You have to like incorporateall those things or else it's
hard fruit and vegetables.
Some of them don't have a ton.

Speaker 5 (18:29):
You have to like include all you should be eating
like cheese.

Speaker 3 (18:32):
A lot of people are eating fast food yeah, I guess
not taco bell, because youdefinitely get that's what
people say, like I shit myselfwhen I go to taco bell.
I guess because it actually islike the one place that has
fiber in it and even two witheven two with vegetables to.

Speaker 4 (18:47):
To get a good serving of fiber, you have to eat like
a cup of them that's the servingsize for vegetables to get like
five or six grams of fiber is acup.

Speaker 5 (18:59):
It's kind of a lot, yeah it's not one half a carrot
on the side of the plate no,it's, you know.

Speaker 4 (19:04):
So I think for some of the foods, the serving size,
people just aren't eating enough.
Um, and then some of the likethe high fiber products, people
just aren't substituting themyeah, most of their plate is
just a steak the size of theirhead okay let's say, for what
about for people?

Speaker 3 (19:23):
who like want nutrients but like can't have
fiber, like because I always getthat like okay, I need low
fiber options because of youknow whatever disorder or
something like that, which Ifeel like.
I feel like if I was in thatsituation, I'd probably start
juicing, like you take, like youknow, the fruits, vegetables,
like you actually can removethat, you still get the vitamins
, minerals, you still get theantioxidants, that sort of thing
.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
I mean, I don't.
I think, no matter what GIissue you have, you might have
to.
Everyone needs fiber Likewhat's an example that you
wouldn't need fiber, Like with?

Speaker 4 (19:52):
Crohn's Low residue diets.
Like low residue diets exist,yeah, but for short periods of
time typically, Not necessarily.
If you have Crohn's or colitis,like high fiber diets can not
be a thing.
Well, for Crohn's or colitis,like high fiber diets can not be
a thing.

Speaker 2 (20:06):
Well, for Crohn's and colitis they have.
They used to say that, but wenow recommend, like the medic,
Well, as a hospital, they wouldbe like Mediterranean diet.
Um over that.
It's just like it's differenttypes of fiber, so we want to
get like, rid of the skin, theseeds, so you want more soluble
fiber.

Speaker 3 (20:23):
Is it like?
Is it the insoluble fiberthat's causing more of the
issues, because I actually don'tlike know when it comes to like
crones yeah, usually that'swhat's making people run to the
bathroom more, um.

Speaker 2 (20:34):
But even in general you want to pick more like
gentler fiber sources, um.
So looking at the skins and theseeds are the insoluble part
that's going to cause morediarrhea.
And then you also want to cookit, because that breaks down the
fiber a little bit.
It also just depends onindividual tolerance.
But, like maybe the higherFODMAP fiber foods, they're not
going to tolerate as much.

(20:55):
But yeah, usually with likecolitis or diverticulitis.
That's what I was about to sayit's like a short period of time
where you probably aren't going, you're definitely not going to
get the daily recommendedamount of fiber.
But if you're doing itgradually and doing it in small
amounts, that's also where thefiber supplements come in handy

(21:16):
too because, they're all builtoff of soluble fiber, which is a
little like easier for people,but yeah yeah, I would have like
chia seeds, super like that's.

Speaker 3 (21:27):
I just go, yeah, yeah , like that's for me, like it's
just so there's.
That is like one of the mostlike fiber one servings what
like 11 grams of fiber orsomething like that, and I feel
like most of it is solid.
I think most of it's all it hasto be solid fiber because it's
like all gel, it makes like ahuge sticky gel when you put it
in water can we just quicklyprovide a layman's warning to
those who may have seen a videosuggesting that you should have

(21:49):
a hundred grams of chia seeds ina day.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
Has anybody seen this video?
I have not I know that shot upa bunch of red flags for
everybody here.
Yeah, um, they're like well, ifyou have 100 grams of chia
seeds in a day, you'll loseweight.
And I was thinking, yeah,because you're gonna plug your
system up so bad that you'renever gonna eat again.

Speaker 2 (22:08):
That's another thing.
Like water.

Speaker 4 (22:11):
Think about how much water yeah, it's just gonna yeah
and like, let's talk aboutblockages.
I hate, granted, that's aproblem with making a blanket
recommendation Everybody needsto do this and then saying you
need to move.
You need to drink water If youhave a bowel condition.

(22:33):
Oh my God, don't do this,because it's going to send
somebody to the hospital.
A bowel condition?
Oh my god, don't do this,because it's going to send
somebody to the hospital.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
Who should have 100 grams of chia seeds, though that
is an excessive amount.
I think the scientific term isa fuck-ass amount.

Speaker 4 (22:50):
Liam can do that.
He's probably the only personwho can, people who have access
to free chia seeds where somehowthey have a farm.

Speaker 3 (22:58):
I don't know when do you even grow?
I don't even know.
I they have like a farm.
I don't know when do you evengrow.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
I don't even know, I don't even do the like.
I think the serving size sayswhat Two tablespoons One.

Speaker 3 (23:08):
Yeah, two tablespoons , I always just do one.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
Well, I do a fourth.
A cup sometimes with chia seedpudding.

Speaker 3 (23:13):
A fourth, yeah well, I've got a really good tolerance
to fiber.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
I think you've got to build your way up to that.
I've got a really goodtolerance to fiber.

Speaker 3 (23:20):
I think you've got to build your way up to that.
Oh for sure, like I'vedefinitely eaten over 100, and
I'm fine.

Speaker 4 (23:23):
Like what's it?

Speaker 3 (23:24):
The Royo brands just sent me like their bagels, and
each one is 32 grams of fiber.
I was like you're going tofucking mess some people up.
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (23:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (23:34):
It's 80 calories, though it's only 80 calories for
the bag bagel.
That's insane.
Yeah right, they're my freezerright now, because I couldn't
get to all of them, I was likeI'll just fucking throw them in
the freezer I had somebody sendme a box of the uh, the smart
sweets oh I can't do those.

Speaker 5 (23:48):
Well, maybe I can I sat there eating, like, I think,
maybe six or seven bags, justone one on one stream.
I was doing it on uh while Iwas streaming.

Speaker 1 (23:59):
But that's only like 400 grams of fiber.

Speaker 3 (24:03):
Whatever Fuck the fiber, it's only like 500
calories.
Yeah, because each onedepending, they have changed a
little bit.
They used to have like20-something grams of fiber and
now they're like 11.
But if you really want fiber,lily's Gummies, bro, lily's
Gummies Each bag is 25.
Each bag is 25 grams of fiber,I remember, and 70 calories.
I remember looking at that andbeing like this is a fucking
hack right here.

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Yeah, they're like $4 a bag, soI guess they're kind of
expensive, but that's whatyou're fibering.

Speaker 1 (24:28):
If you want a fun read, go on to like a Reddit
thread where people have triedthe keto bagels for the first
time, where they're amazed thatthey found bagels that were 90
calories and then found out whyfiber the next day?
yeah, like they, they just theyhad like something terrible is

(24:49):
happening to me right now.
I don't know if I need to go tothe hospital or I need to be
exercised or what, but there'ssomething horrendous going on to
my, my body at the moment andit's because it's there, I like
at Aldi, and they're 29 grams offiber, 90 calories.
People are not prepared.
They see the 90 calories.

(25:10):
I'm like cool, I've got bagelsagain.
No, you don't.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
That's why so many people are turned off of fiber,
though, cause they like don'tlearn the sources from real food
, and then they go for thesesupplements, and then they're
like I don't tolerate it I'mlike a lot of people would
tolerate it like that.

Speaker 4 (25:26):
It's hard.
Well, smart sweets used to useallulose, oh yeah do they not
use anymore?

Speaker 3 (25:33):
no, they changed it um, I thought, they still did no
, I think they changed itbecause allulose is a zero
calorie sweetener and alluloseis found in certain foods like
naturally.
I think they changed it becauseallulose is a zero calorie
sweetener and allulose is foundin certain foods like naturally,
I think like raisins orsomething.

Speaker 4 (25:45):
Has like a little bit of them, but like it doesn't it
act sort of as a fiber as well,like you know, in a way kind of
and like I ate one bag and Iwas in bed with so much pain I I
thought I was going to die but,they don't like it.
I think they changed it.
Um, but yeah, I think theychanged it and added more like

(26:08):
ISO Malta oligosaccharidesinstead.
Yeah Right.

Speaker 3 (26:14):
Oh, man, speaking of that's the fucking place, man,
if you want to like.
Uh, I feel so bad for people inlike Coloradoado.
We've been looking up for aplace to like move and we're
like, hey, colorado's nice, butI'm like, oh, they don't have
aldi, so like it's gotta be out.

Speaker 1 (26:26):
I can't I'm gonna be in colorado within the next year
and that's one of the thingsthat's killing me, they took,
they, they took out, they took,took out the allulose yeah, it
says the isomalisomaltoligosaccharides instead.

Speaker 4 (26:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
That's what you said.

Speaker 4 (26:45):
I think they got granted.
I don't know this, but I thinkthey got some feedback about the
allulose, because there wasquite a bit in it and allulose
can be a thing.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
Speaking of FODMAP foods, erythritol is another one
that's often used in theseAnd's horrendous on me
personally, but it's.

Speaker 3 (27:01):
I know it wrecks a bunch of people yeah, people
tell me all the time that itmesses up their system and like
then there was that whole reportabout like that and like heart
attacks or something.
There was like a link betweenthat just dumbest study.

Speaker 4 (27:13):
They didn't even measure dietary intake.
It was just like no, it was intheir blood and, like your body,
can make some of it naturallyit can make quite a bit of it,
especially it can make quite.
It can make it especially indisease states because it makes
it from the pentose phosphatepathway and the entire
population of people they usedhad like diabetes, heart disease

(27:35):
, were old, like the whole groupthat they studied, had disease
risk, and then they weresurprised when they had high
levels of erythritol.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
Can we just acknowledge for a second that
some of these studies areperformed on like.
We found erythritol in thebloodstream of someone who just
got tased and they had a heartattack.
It must have been from theerythritol Like.
No, it might have been the factthat they were tased.

Speaker 4 (27:57):
Well, and then the second, that there was another
study and they're like thiscauses blood clotting.
After we drew a sample, afterwe fed people erythritol, took a
blood sample, put things in itand stirred it up.

Speaker 3 (28:12):
It's like dude well, yeah, that's exactly how your
body what I love, though, islike the fucking grifters okay,
so the ones that sell all thesupplements and shit.
I love the moment any studycomes out about aspartame and
possible negative side effects.
They jump all over that shit.
It is everywhere.
You remember when aspartamebecame labeled a possible
carcinogen?

(28:32):
Fucking the world was ending.
It was just everywhere.
But the moment anything onstevia or even erythritol comes
out like oh no, that's just likefake science, like that doesn't
matter because it's in myproduct, so like I, I can't, I
can't talk about that shit likethis, it's just people tolerate
erythritol more typically, morethan like sorbitol or xylitol,

(28:56):
because it's absorbed?

Speaker 2 (28:58):
yeah, because I believe the sorbitol and
mannitol go to the largeintestine, which is where like
fermentation happens, likethat's like FODMAPs, where
things are like causing gas.

Speaker 3 (29:09):
But erythritol is mostly absorbed in the small
intestine it's like a problemlike with the other sugar
alcohols, right, like themaltitol and all these things.
Like they actually have likewhat two calories per gram,
whereas erythritol, I think, haslike 0.1 calorie per gram,
because it's just not, you can't, you can't get any real, um,

(29:30):
any calories from it.
So like I'm assuming that likethat, like fermentation or
whatever for this, for the othersugar alcohols, because man you
look up, man you want to have afun day, like just look up the
reviews of like the sugar-freegummies, gummy bears or whatever
, because that's all.
Those are all like sugaralcohols, that's all like
sorbitol and shit and the peopleare just smashing those just go
right through.

Speaker 4 (29:49):
I think erythritol is um, absorbed in the small
intestine, goes into thebloodstream and then aspartame
is just broken down yeah, realquick and doesn't even reach
your gut.
That's why studies show that itdoesn't affect your gut
microbiome, because it's brokendown too fast.
But it's broken down intomethanol and fucking

(30:14):
phenylalanine.
Yeah, like some of the othersugar alcohols.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
That's why they give you Like the allulose.
It makes sense that goes rightthrough you, but that now
they're doing theoligosaccharide, which is like a
longer chain, so it's likegonna take a little longer
rather than like yeah that'scrazy yeah rob, how quickly can
you get in moderation brandedtoilet paper on the market
before this episode goes out?

Speaker 1 (30:38):
I think we might have some cross-branding there we go
.

Speaker 3 (30:42):
It's poop-approved.
We need some kind of tagline onit or something.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (30:48):
It's potty-approved, potty-approved.

Speaker 4 (30:50):
That's pretty good.
Hey, I've worn adult diapers.
They're pretty comfortable.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
In moderation adult diapers.

Speaker 4 (30:57):
Am I the only one in here who's worn those?

Speaker 5 (31:02):
No, I had one when I was in hospital in the
Philippines.
I might start.

Speaker 4 (31:06):
They're comfortable.
I was really mad that I had tostop wearing those.
These are nice.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
I work from home now, so why not?

Speaker 4 (31:14):
Why not?
I'm walking to the bathroom.
Do you know how many steps thatis?

Speaker 3 (31:19):
Man turn it, it's carpet.
I totally forgot about thatepisode.
If you haven't watched that,just look up Mom Bathroom, south
Park.

Speaker 4 (31:32):
Is it the Dungeons Warcraft?
World of Warcraft.

Speaker 3 (31:37):
And he couldn't go to the bathroom.
So she just brings out afucking bedpan Fading him hot
pockets, warcraft and they'replaying.
And he couldn't go to thebathroom.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
So she just brings out a fucking whatever Bedpan,
bedpan, yeah, feeding him hotpockets.

Speaker 3 (31:47):
They just become so fat, like they just become all
huge.
And the acne that's one of thegreatest South Park episodes.
Holy shit, my fucking.

Speaker 4 (31:55):
South Park shirt.

Speaker 3 (31:56):
I can't even like wash it because it's starting to
break down, so I have to likeleave it and I don't want to.
I don't want to ruin it anymore.
And it's like they solely soldit for a little bit.
It's like South Park's or it'sCartman's, famous like chili,
and it's like made with realtenerman and I'm like this is
like the fucking greatest shirt.
Yeah, it's got a little fingerin the chili.

Speaker 4 (32:19):
It's so good and I'm like here to derail the podcast.
By the way, I'm not here forhelp, I'm just here for
distractions.

Speaker 1 (32:29):
There's no way to derail an already derailed
podcast.
We start this episode off thetrack crash, usually burning,
leaking some kind of toxic fluid.

Speaker 3 (32:36):
We give.
We listen, mike.
Okay, we have a plan, you havea plan, and so do we, and our
plan is to give a little bit ofuseful information and then just
fuck around and because, like,whatever, like life just it's,
it's, it's it can be so shitty.
So, like you gotta just be ableto laugh and like a lot of the
shit, like so much I get taggedin is just complete and utter

(32:58):
garbage and I'm like am I reallygonna take this seriously?
Am I really gonna take thisseriously?
Am I really gonna take someoneyelling at me about kale
seriously, like get fucked.
I just I don't care, I don't.
You don't even have a shirt onin a grocery store and you're
yelling about me, aboutvegetables but actually cucumber
is a fruit it's got seeds in it.
it's a fruit.

(33:18):
That.
That just drove me up a fuckingwall when I did like a plant
you video and she's like sneakyvegetables and there was like
there was yeah, there waszucchini and tomatoes in there
and they're like um half ofthose are actually, it's a berry
.

Speaker 1 (33:35):
One thing specifically about these people
bothers me a whole lot and it'sI don't know if it's if about
these people bothers me a wholelot and it's I don't know if
it's if it's like justmicromanaging or what have you,
but it's the types of videoswhere they go into a store, say,
they pick up like a bottle ofsugar-free sweet baby rays and
and they'll point to it andthey'll go like and look at this

(33:55):
high fructose corn syrup andhere's sodium and here's like
whatever, and they're just goingdown like you know they've got
gums or what have you, and theydon't talk about like what that
might mean or why it's bad,they're just saying like naming
naming the ingredient is the badthing.

Speaker 4 (34:14):
No, they just heard someone say it, so they're just
yeah, I can't handle when, likethe the rise of the young
teenagers doing it, it's like,oh my goodness.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
It's like a 16-year-old who had to get a
ride to Walmart to film thisvideo.

Speaker 3 (34:28):
They brought their cutting board, though, with all
the food on it.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
It's really bad.

Speaker 4 (34:33):
Well, and then the people in the comments were
supporting it, like, oh, this isso great.
It's like, no, this isterrifying, it is scary.
Like what kind of adult is thisperson going to become?

Speaker 1 (34:42):
Have you seen the 12 year old kid drinking raw milk?

Speaker 4 (34:45):
I don't want to see that.
It's awful.
I actually don't want to seethat.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
I stitched it and I had, I blurred his face out.
I had to blur out cause he hadhis uh like a school shirt on,
so if, like, you could Google itin two minutes you could figure
out where he lives.
And I just I had to do all thiscensorship.
And in one of the videos youcan see some like an adult
standing behind him, clearlylike they're trying to make him
do this or whatever.

(35:12):
And it's yeah, this kid'sdrinking raw milk and eating raw
meat.
And then, interspersed, he'stalking about God and I,
interspersed he's talking aboutgod and like, yeah, it's uh like
quoting scripture and his eyesare dead and I'm like what is
happening here, but that's thestuff that goes like you know,
more viral right or whatever.

Speaker 3 (35:27):
It's just like that's the goal.

Speaker 2 (35:29):
Probably is like the shock value of seeing this child
I think some people veryactively know that what they're
saying is so incorrect andthey're just doing it for views.
And then some people genuinelyare just so clueless so it's
hard to kind of tell.

Speaker 5 (35:44):
It's pretty much what you got the two camps, the
people that are in it for themoney and the people that are
just stupid.

Speaker 4 (35:49):
Yeah, dr Ziegler, monster the scientist.
She did this video on Instagramabout the potential for raw
milk and bird flu, basicallybird flu to mutate and raw milk
to be able to spread bird flu,mutate bird flu mutations, and
to it to become like a pandemictype pathogen and people to

(36:12):
spread it around through rawmilk.

Speaker 3 (36:14):
it's terrifying I guess that's kind of the
downside of the.
Let them drink their raw milk,like yeah, eh, let them drink
their raw milk, and then we havefucking bird flu.
But then normal people aregoing to potentially get it
because Because people weredrinking raw milk and got bird
flu and then gave it to them andthe same people drinking the
raw milk are going to be goingto Walmart while they're sick.

Speaker 4 (36:36):
Right, and because of the potential for bird flu to
mutate from animal to human andspread through raw milk and if
granted, I don't know if that'sgoing to happen, but if it does,
I'm going to come for thesepeople.

Speaker 1 (36:50):
Like.

Speaker 3 (36:51):
I'm mad at them.
It's very ironic that they'reyelling at us about aspartame
and artificial colors and allthese things and it's like no.
Diet Coke will not give mee-coli I've never gotten sick
from a diet coke in my life andI never will I've gotten a
little gassy right, but that'sit.

(37:11):
Real good burps oh man, I feellike they pick up the ones,
though, like the ones that seemto go like more viral.
That I see is when they pick uplike a product that's healthier
quote unquote like a fair lifeor something, life or something
that we think is healthier, thenthey go oh, it's got the gums,
it's got this, it's got that.
Because people are like oh, Ifinally thought I had something
that tasted good and was goodfor me, but then they come in

(37:34):
with the like oh, it's got allthis shit in it.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
How does this Fair Life protein shake say that it's
?

Speaker 3 (37:47):
protein when there's not even protein listed in the
ingredients oh my god, oh god,it's chick.
It says nothing about protein.
Oh shit, that was good I thinkhe took that video down because
people were just like it'sfucking milk bro no, it's got
protein.

Speaker 2 (37:59):
Who are you talking about?

Speaker 3 (38:01):
uh, there was a younger guy that was like he was
looking at it and I rememberzach cohen like stitched it.
That was hilarious and he'sjust like it says nothing about
protein on the ingredients label.
But then there was the otherguy that you stitched.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
Uh, gabrielle, like that one dude who's constantly
yelling about everything sayingthe same thing yeah, so there's,
there's a few of they.
It's, it's so fucking good it'sjust basic nutrition, that is.
It's so bad, though, becauseit's milk's a protein.
That's all they need to know.
Like that's where whey proteinlike, or milk has to know but
they don't know I know.

Speaker 4 (38:33):
Yeah, milk has protein.
Yeah it just we have drifted sofar away from people knowing
what they're talking about.

Speaker 3 (38:41):
That it's just but like, I feel like you kind of
have to make it a little bit.
You know, you obviously have tomake it a little more
complicated.
My favorite, one of myfavorites, gary Brekka, I talk
about, I love, my love interest,he's, he's, it's, it's so
fucking good, like I loved.
I remember you'll quadruple theglycemic profile.

(39:07):
I mean, the difference betweena banana that you eat and a
banana you put in the blender iswhat?
Oh, the banana one, yes, wherehe said like, yeah, if you blend
a banana, it quadruples theglycemic index, which is not
true at all.
It does nothing to banana andto uh, fruits that have like
seeds, like more seeds in them,like blackberries or whatever.
It'll actually lower theglycemic index because you blend
up the seeds which create,which uh, give you more access
to the fiber in the seeds andwill actually lower the glycemic
index when you chew the banana,wouldn't, chewing it, do the

(39:30):
same thing of course not, mike,you dummy.
It's blenders way different youcan eat a lot.

Speaker 2 (39:36):
You can eat more bananas in a short amount of
time.
If you blend it up, that wouldwould quadruple the sugar spike,
I guess consuming more of it,but it's like.

Speaker 3 (39:43):
But no a banana that you eat and a banana you put in
the blender.
It's night and day difference,according to Gary Brekka.

Speaker 1 (39:48):
Not that far Fun fact there's actually 10 times more
calories in a banana milkshakethan there is in a banana.
Frightening.

Speaker 4 (39:55):
I think I heard some kind of quote.
I don.
I heard some kind of quote Idon't know who it was from or
where I heard it that it wasn'tlike the correctness of the
information delivered, it waslike the confidence of the
presenter yeah, and gary breckhas got the best confidence.

Speaker 3 (40:09):
It's so, yeah, it's like I wish I had the confidence
of a mediocre white man likethat guy like, but seriously
that's exactly why they'recalled confidence men.
Yes, touche oh, the fuckingstage presence is so good.
I love, I just love watching afucking grifter in in their, in
their habitat you know what I'msaying which is up on stage with

(40:29):
a whiteboard and it's fun towatch.

Speaker 4 (40:32):
Like how do you get away with people listening to
you after you've told them youinject yourself with your own
pee?

Speaker 3 (40:39):
Like how do you keep going after that, After you've
told them you inject yourself?

Speaker 4 (40:41):
with your own pee Fucking Dave Asprey.
Like how do you keep goingafter that?
But alas, here we are.

Speaker 3 (40:48):
And so like yeah, it's kind of gotten to the point
where I just have to make funof it.
People are like, oh, you got toshow how it's wrong, Like I
don't give a fuck, man, I justdon't give a fuck anymore.
I'm not going into researchabout why fucking peanut butter
isn't killing you.
I'm really not.
Like it's fucking peanut butter, Jesus.

Speaker 4 (41:06):
No, I'm just going to make stupid memes for the rest
of my life.

Speaker 3 (41:09):
It's more fun that way.
My mental health has changed.

Speaker 5 (41:12):
I'm sure you guys will have a lot of material with
your new human health.
Whatever service guy, yeah.

Speaker 4 (41:19):
It's not funny, rob, it's.
I don't, I don't even know whatto do.

Speaker 3 (41:25):
okay, here, listen, okay, listen.
I've been thinking about thisfor the past few days because
I've been seeing a lot of peoplelike dr is and everybody
talking about, uh, the rfk thingand what I see like always in
the comments is okay, butamericans are sick and something
has to be done.
And I just want to say Iwholeheartedly agree, like I
totally agree with them that weshould change things.

(41:46):
And I feel like that sidedoesn't think that we think
things should change.
They think we are like, oh,everything should just remain
the same, and we're like,absolutely not.
Like we have major issues, youknow, lack of exercise, lack of
access to, like you know,nutrient dense foods.
So don't you think that, like,giving us, giving people more

(42:09):
access to these nutrient densefoods, wouldn't that have an
overall better impact on ourhealth than getting rid of a
single food diet?
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 4 (42:18):
Yeah, it goes back to the food pyramid studies, where
80 of people weren't followingthem anyway yeah but the funny
thing was, is that, like whenmichelle obama did all of her
stuff to like, push, push,exercise and push better
nutrition and do things toimprove school lunches which she
actually did they freaked outand they're like we don't want

(42:40):
you to tell us what to eat, andhow dare you?

Speaker 3 (42:45):
I don't remember that was a while ago, so I don't
really remember it was okay Iremember that there was.

Speaker 4 (42:51):
There was so much pushback that like how dare you
tell us what to eat?
We're just entirely you know.

Speaker 5 (42:56):
Yeah how dare you tell us what to eat, unless it's
raw milk?

Speaker 3 (42:59):
then you can tell us what to eat but like there was
such big pushback and it's justlike do you think rfk's could be
able to do anything then, like,if he gets rid of things, you
think there's just gonna be somuch pushback from that that he
won't?

Speaker 1 (43:12):
no, there's no pushback.
They love it when he does ithere's the thing they've already
.

Speaker 4 (43:16):
The thing is is they've already rolled back
limits on like pfas and waterthey've already gotten rid of
like I haven't, if you actuallyyeah, so they already rolled
back limits on pfas and water,like the plastic straw thing,
like, or paper straws.
We're getting rid of paperstraws and pulling back the
plastic ones, so it's wildforever chemicals, they say so

(43:41):
like and like.
You know all of the terms thatthey're getting rid of being
able to use in research papersright, like all that bias and
women and women.
Like you can't add women toresearch papers.
Why?

Speaker 1 (43:55):
no, that's thatI.
That's why.

Speaker 4 (43:58):
No, I'm totally this is actual.

Speaker 1 (44:02):
I've seen these same things.

Speaker 4 (44:04):
You cannot.
The word women is beingfiltered out in future research
papers.
I'm not even joking.

Speaker 3 (44:11):
Give us one reason why we should care about women's
health.

Speaker 4 (44:14):
I'm not even kidding, it's just like.

Speaker 3 (44:16):
It's scary.
Nobody's going to get healthierit's like the whole, like his
shit on tiktok that I keptgetting tagged in.
The RFK thing was we're beingbombarded with toxins and we
need to get rid of them and itseems, and now they're like
rolling back restrictions onPFAS and water right and adding
more microplastics to the oceanand like mental health

(44:39):
medications.

Speaker 4 (44:40):
He's done something with that like, oh yeah, lower
access which is saying peopleneed to be in what camps because
of their on ananti-dermatologist they're
calling them farms wellnessdoctors actually test people for
adhd instead of just giving itout.

Speaker 2 (44:54):
When people say I can't focus because there's
people like me who actually haveadhd, like that's so annoying.

Speaker 5 (44:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (45:01):
So I don't know.
I don't know Nobody's going to,I don't know.

Speaker 3 (45:07):
I just don't see any good how in what like I'm trying
to play devil's advocate here,like I'm really like trying my
hardest to be like okay, well,if they do this, I can't even
come up with a single thing.

Speaker 4 (45:21):
And there are also budget cuts to program like
Medicaid.
How's like, yeah, that's nothelping anybody so, okay, how do
we help people?

Speaker 3 (45:30):
and what do you think ?
Like, what do you?
What do you how?
How like the opposite of theopposite?
Okay, what do you think?
What, what, what should we bedoing?

Speaker 4 (45:37):
adding funding to the programs.
They're currently cuttingfunding on, so the yeah, because
the thing is, if you can't fixproblems, usually these systemic
issues, you have to add fundingto them to fix the problem.
It's exactly what they don'twant to do.

Speaker 5 (45:54):
This really goes back to when we had Taylor Nichols
on talking about God damn.
Talk about something, somethingimportant, something very
important.
Something just so important,I'm just so, I'm just so damn
tired.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
Trump just rolled back our ability to talk about
what I think is.
People need to stop focusing somuch on all like, if you don't
want to buy foods with food dyeor food with seed oils or
whatever that's, you can do thatlike it's okay.
You, okay, you can make yourown choices, but just make sure
you get enough water, make sureyou know what foods have fiber
in them, make sure you getenough protein, like it really
doesn't need to be thatcomplicated.

Speaker 4 (46:38):
But the thing is is if you can't access them, if you
can't afford them what's thepoint If you don't have a
livable wage?
If there's not a grocery storein your area, you're still
screwed.
And the issue with health careis is that people don't have
health care or have crappyhealth care, so they hit the
emergency room when somethingterrible happens and they wait

(46:59):
so long that they don't havepreventative care.

Speaker 3 (47:02):
Preventative medicine .
Thank you, Liam.
Preventative medicine.

Speaker 4 (47:05):
I knew that's what you were talking about.

Speaker 3 (47:06):
Thank you, liam, preventative medicine.
I knew that's what you weretalking about.

Speaker 4 (47:08):
People need to be able to get preventative care,
so instead of waiting till theirdiabetes is terrible.

Speaker 5 (47:20):
They can catch it beforehand and make necessary
changes.
But yeah, he was talking aboutthe preventative medicine and
drugs and stuff and how I don'tremember what state it was.
I don't care about what stateit was, um, how one of your
states they lead uh,decriminalized drugs but they
put no funding into actuallyhelping the people maybe I don't
care and it's just like youneed to actually put the effort

(47:44):
in, like if you half-ass it,you're not going to get results.

Speaker 3 (47:48):
Yeah, we need so, like and a lot of things.
We subsidize things, like youknow, corn or whatever that we
use uh and a lot uh to make,like I fruit just corn syrup and
a lot of ultra processed foods,but, like for other fruits and
vegetables, like we don't reallydo much of anything.
So these, they're just moreexpensive.
And so people are like, well,shit, I got a chance.

(48:08):
I got a choice between a honeybun that's like 50 cents and,
like you know, a bag of applesthat's like seven dollars.
Uh, you know, I you have verylimited money.

Speaker 4 (48:18):
What are you gonna do just grow your own, grow your
own apples right in in the placewhere I haven't had a backyard
in like five years has anybodyseen this woman?

Speaker 1 (48:31):
I saw a video come across my feed the other day and
it was it said come with me asI show you a day of eating while
I'm living off grid in thejungle and I'm like who the fuck
is this supposed to be for?
Who is the niche?
Who is's like?
Oh finally something for me.

Speaker 3 (48:49):
I've been living in the jungle with no idea what to
do.
I've just been sitting herepraying for help.

Speaker 1 (48:55):
By the way, not a gram of protein in this diet
she's like a fruitarian, oh,fruitarian.
Yeah, just eating fruit,blending fruit.
I don't know where there's anoutlet in a tree?
No baguettes.
Maggots, oh maggots.
No baguettes.

Speaker 5 (49:11):
There's no baguettes.

Speaker 4 (49:13):
That's where they get the protein.

Speaker 5 (49:15):
Oh, yeah, yeah, I know.

Speaker 4 (49:16):
That's where the protein comes from.

Speaker 1 (49:18):
Is the grubs, there are four grams of protein a day.

Speaker 4 (49:22):
Lion King style.

Speaker 1 (49:24):
What's the.

Speaker 5 (49:25):
When I was in the amazon it was we went hand
lining for fish and we went bughunting and fruit hunting,
entomology entomology.

Speaker 3 (49:36):
I couldn't think of it.
That's the, the eating bugs,that's what.
That's the fancy term and Iwanted to sound smart.
So I feel like in america wejust think of it as gross.

Speaker 4 (49:44):
But listen, but listen no, I need some bugs.

Speaker 3 (49:48):
I listen like high protein, man cheap, cheap high
protein isn't cricket proteincricket protein powder.

Speaker 4 (49:55):
That's like the only thing now.

Speaker 3 (49:56):
It's like yeah, they make.
They have like farms where theyget a bunch of crickets and
then they just blend thosefuckers up to a little powder
and you can, you know, makestuff with it and you don't have
to be chewing on legs andwhatnot.
I'd use it.
That's all I'm saying, do you?

Speaker 2 (50:10):
have updates.
I haven't looked at Snap in along time, but do you know the
changes that they've done withSnap and WIC?

Speaker 3 (50:18):
I don't know.
I think, Live Google find out?
Please tell me.

Speaker 2 (50:26):
I think they're always changing it and making it
harder for people to even getthose.

Speaker 4 (50:29):
So then I don't know, yeah I think, I think they it's
like you can get beans.

Speaker 3 (50:35):
Those are really cheap, but like meals I don't do
they make like restrictions on,I'm sure, like there definitely
are restrictions on like whatyou can buy with I think it's
like there's a limit on how manypeople are in the household too
, so if it's a parent with abunch

Speaker 5 (50:46):
of children.

Speaker 2 (50:46):
They're only going to be getting like a certain
amount.

Speaker 3 (50:49):
It's hard, I don't know, I just yeah because I mean
, listen, I've been on fucking,uh, public assistance multiple
times and I was just spying likewhatever.
Like you know, you get frozenpizzas and just like whatever
was cheap and I could afford.

Speaker 2 (51:01):
I wasn't thinking about fucking nutrition at that
point, whatever makes a mealexactly yeah, it's rough man
yeah, I don't know, but um, Iknow he cut funding for snap
before.

Speaker 4 (51:14):
I think and I don't know if it's been funding has
been cut again yeah but there'spotential for it I think, oh,
fucking mike's gone.

Speaker 3 (51:23):
See you later, dummy, let's all talk about how much
we hate him.
Listen, mike is the worst.
He's like the absolutely bane oflife, he's always needing a
plan, but he doesn't have a planalways trying to fucking help
people while we're out here justtrying to make our money.
Oh, all right, yeah, I don'tknow, but what are you, what
have you guys been doing latelywith your videos, any topics

(51:44):
recently like coming up or likestuff?
That's you?
Are you how you feel like?
Are you just past the wholelike uh, like debunking stuff?
What are you doing now, andy?
What are you doing?

Speaker 4 (51:54):
I'm launching a program in march which I've
never done before.

Speaker 5 (51:57):
What you're doing, um , it's gonna be about guts and
incorporating more fibrous foodsand by guts, we're talking
about going out hunting, killinga deer gutting it, yes exactly
how to remove guts from theanimals that live in your
backyard excellent yes, so real,fucking esoteric app.

Speaker 3 (52:20):
I mean I'm sure we'll get at least five downloads,
yeah no, but so that it'shelping to try for people who
want to get more like fiber.

Speaker 4 (52:30):
Yeah.
So basically more fiber,slightly troubleshooting kind of
like bloating, constipation,diarrhea, small-scale gut
problems Not if you have likeCrohn's colitis, things like
that, but small-scale gutproblems.
Troubleshooting that, learningabout how you can incorporate
more fiber into your diet and alittle bit of debunking kind of

(52:50):
gut health myths.
12-week program we're launchingthat in march that's what's it?
I've never done anything beforeum do you not have a title?
it can be called the the wellguts workshop.
So we're just ironing that outright now.
So, yeah, I've never doneanything like that before, so I

(53:10):
figured it was time to like dosomething with my social media,
because I've just been kind ofI've just been kind of existing
for like four, three, almostfour years and it's like, okay,
it's fine time to do somethingand I get it because I still
don't do anything with my socialmedia yeah, and you know, and I
kind of pulled my pulled someof my followers and a lot of

(53:33):
people are like we need to eatmore fiber and we don't know how
.
So it's like, all right, let'swork with that yeah, I get
that's a tough.

Speaker 3 (53:42):
Like that is a tough one too.
Is it best just to take someonethrough a day and just be like
okay, breakfast, lunch, dinnerhere are things that you can
consume, fucking like jesuschrist, all right, whatever, go
ahead, andy.
Sorry, this podcast just got somuch worse yeah, I think it's.

Speaker 4 (53:57):
It's people aren't a.
In my experience, it's easiestto say what do you normally eat
during the day, what do you like, and here are a few easy
substitutions you can makewithout overhauling your entire
day I like this.

Speaker 3 (54:12):
Okay, andy, I wake up , I have cereal.
What do I do?
I only eat cereal you find.

Speaker 2 (54:17):
You find a higher fiber cereal that's comparative
taste wise to the one thatyou're already eating so many
weeds or, or you think aboutwhat fiber, so you keep the
cereal you have and you thinkabout, or you find something you
can add on top.

Speaker 3 (54:32):
Yeah, okay, I only like reese's puffs.
That's reese's puffs.
That's my only cereal I like.
What do I do?
Find something, add somethingto it are you in a fucking echo
chamber?
What are you talking about?

Speaker 4 (54:44):
or if you don't want to add something to reese's
puffs like a little snack orsomething you can add on the
side.
Or if you don't want to addsomething to Reese's Puffs like
a little snack or something youcan add on the side, like a cup
of berries or a cup of you knowfrozen mixed berries.

Speaker 3 (54:54):
I like banana.
Can I throw banana in there?

Speaker 4 (54:57):
Yeah, absolutely I like that, but banana isn't
quite right.
Just don't blend it.

Speaker 3 (55:01):
Don't blend it.
Yeah, I think banana.
What three, four grams of fiberin a banana or something?
Yeah, not too much, but stilllike, hey, that's something
whatever.

Speaker 4 (55:09):
It's something, especially if someone's not used
to a higher fiber diet.
Starting slow is the best wayto oh you know what you could do
.

Speaker 3 (55:16):
Have you ever seen?
Um, they sell like pure P Y U RE and they sell chocolate syrup
and, um, uh, caramel syrupthese things are kind of cool
and so they use tapioca fiber, Ithink, and they have like seven
or eight grams of fiber in thelike a serving or something like
that.
So, like I'll add that to likea chocolate milk or milk or you

(55:38):
could chop up one of these andput it on your cereal what is
that?

Speaker 4 (55:40):
what's that?

Speaker 5 (55:41):
a poop chocolate I call it chocolate.

Speaker 4 (55:45):
They market themselves like protein, not
sugar.
But two of these has eightgrams of fiber.

Speaker 3 (55:52):
Okay Dang.

Speaker 4 (55:54):
I love that.

Speaker 3 (55:55):
Yeah, I know I used to do like the fiber one bars.
I would put that on top of likeice cream or something.
Yeah, I would just add that, soI get like some fiber in that
way.

Speaker 2 (56:08):
I think there's some staples of fiber that you can
buy too.
Like if you buy a bag of chiaseeds, you don't need to have
two tablespoons every single day, you just need, like, just add
one.
Just think about everythingdifferent source of fiber.
So you buy frozen maybe edamamebeans are really cheap.
You can just get a bunch ofbeans and you can add beans to
any like salad or any like wrapor anything.
And then there's all thosetortillasillas like we talked
about like the mission.

Speaker 3 (56:27):
Tortillas or nuts are a good option, just having okay
, like, what about lunch?
All right, uh, gaps, gaps.
What like lunchtime?
What?
What are we doing for likefiber at lunchtime?

Speaker 2 (56:37):
give me something okay, what do you eat for lunch?

Speaker 3 (56:40):
uh shit, I like, uh, I don't.
I usually just uh, fuckingsnack just grab random things.
What can I do?
That's quick and will give mefiber.

Speaker 2 (56:51):
It doesn't take a long time okay, you can get one
of those mission tortillas thathave fiber in them.
There's the protein ones thathave fiber in them, then there's
, like the plant ones, a lot offiber.
You could get two of those andmake a quesadilla so you put
those together with like cheeseand chicken and beans, so you're
getting even more fiber andmore protein you could do.

(57:11):
You could just make some like arice kind of bowl, like a rice
and veggie bowl, where you add,add rice, add like rotisserie
chicken, add differentvegetables that you already had
made.
I mean, that's like I'm tryingto think of things that you
could get a can of likevegetables or frozen veggies and
add those like I say for whatI've been doing recently uh,

(57:32):
mostly for lunch is a peanutbutter jelly sandwich.

Speaker 3 (57:35):
I get whole wheat bread.
Each slice has like four gramsof fiber or something like that,
and so like it's like a.
And then I do peanut butter andthat also has like a few grams
of fiber, so I'm already getting, like you know, at least 10 to
15, and then I have like a pieceof fruit with it on the side or
whatever, and boom I was gonnasay greek yogurt and fruit on
the side, so you can get moreprotein fucking greek yogurt

(57:56):
with fruit.
Like I, it's so good.
It's so if you throw some honeyon there or you, just my
favorite artificial sweeteners,any like.
As long as it's not stevia, Idon't like that, but like any of
the other ones, uh, likesucralose, my fucking jam.
Um, we have two mice now.
This is all jesus ismultiplying my mike's plan.

Speaker 1 (58:17):
I'm finally revealing it today.

Speaker 3 (58:18):
It's to multiply so that I am louder than all the
grifters I thought it was justto fuck up.

Speaker 2 (58:23):
There was a video that I stitched yesterday where
this girl was like don't eatyogurt and fruit together.
The logic was oh my gosh.

Speaker 3 (58:33):
Enzymes or something Probably bad hormones.

Speaker 2 (58:37):
Well, she was talking about, like the cooling and the
temperatures of everything.

Speaker 3 (58:41):
Oh no, not the temperatures.
What will our fucking body everdo with?

Speaker 2 (58:44):
that One's cold, one's hot and blah, blah you
can't mix them togetherliterally no logic.
How, like I don't think sheunderstands that we have
multiple like types of enzymesthat digest, do different things
.
Yeah, like we have different.
Do you remember the ice water?
Don't drink ice.

Speaker 3 (59:05):
All of them don't drink ice water because it like
slows down your metabolism orsomething I don't remember, but
it was just like it messed withyour digestion.

Speaker 1 (59:12):
Don't drink yeah, it's like your stomach acid
won't release because you're toocold and you need warm
according to people withsupplements to sell, our bodies
are the most fragile things thathave ever touched the planet
nothing everything breaks yourmetabolism and everything in

(59:35):
your body is a light switch.

Speaker 3 (59:36):
It needs to be reset oh man, I gotta play this like
video for you.
I've been thinking about whatto do and I'm not sure, like,
exactly which way to take it, soI'm just gonna play it.

Speaker 6 (59:44):
You guys listen, let me know three superfoods I'm
making sure my little girl getsevery single day, and you should
too, if you have kids.
Number one would be Moringa.
Moringa is one of the mostpowerful superfoods on the
planet.

Speaker 5 (59:56):
It's a superhero multivitamin.

Speaker 6 (59:58):
It's packed with minerals, nutrients, aminos all
the important building blocks oflife.
Loaded with antioxidants.
Moringa also helps you detox.
It gets rid of the bad stuff inthe body so that these little
beings can grow up okay, so thatwas the first one, so there's,
there's more.

Speaker 3 (01:00:11):
But like okay, I kind of feel like giving a small
child like a supplement.
That really is a supplementindustry not really super
regulated very well, maybethat's not the greatest idea,
like I always find it ironicthat these people are like don't
eat these food dyes or whateverthat has or whatever it has in
it, but like take this untestedsupplement is I bought research

(01:00:32):
chemicals online, child.

Speaker 4 (01:00:35):
I would like you to to use them and become strong
and the other thing too, is alot of times those supplements
have dosages that are meant foradults right and they are not
like your child is not a miniadult and they're giving their
kids these supplements that aremeant for adults and it's like
dude no and think about thesourcing, like who, where the

(01:00:59):
hell do you go get moringa okay?

Speaker 2 (01:01:01):
you go on amazon and where the hell are they getting
it from, because anyone can putanything anywhere it could have
heavy metals in it, it couldhave.

Speaker 3 (01:01:07):
Yeah, we're always talking about heavy metals in,
like you know, baby food orwhatever, but like in
supplements, this shit's notreally regulated at all well,
moringa is a vegetable.

Speaker 4 (01:01:18):
If you want to eat it , eat it like a vegetable, but
don't put it in a supplementthat has especially some of
these things have proprietary,blends, yeah, which which, let
me, let me count a counterpoint.

Speaker 3 (01:01:31):
Andy, it helps your body get rid of the bad stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:01:33):
He told me that so I don't want the vegetables
especially.

Speaker 4 (01:01:37):
That's not good that's the bad stuff, yeah,
which we have no idea what it iswell.

Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
You could just support your liver and that's
your natural detoxification byeating different fruits and
vegetables and getting varietyin your diet but can I support
it by getting an untestedsupplement?

Speaker 4 (01:01:54):
but you make no money from that gate yeah, yeah, okay
, let me see my favorite part isall these guys always push
alcohol on top of this.

Speaker 3 (01:02:04):
It's kind of it's kind of ironic I want to see
what the other ones are, thoughhold on it keeps your tummy
happy and working well numbertwo would be beets.

Speaker 6 (01:02:10):
Beets are like a secret weapon.
They have lots of vitamins,minerals and also are loaded
with nitrates.
So talk about nitric oxide.
It improves blood flow, helpsyour muscles, gives you more
energy, increases more of a vo2max or oxygen in the body, which
is great for kiddos, theirgrowing body and their body's
needs number so like I mean,he's bright but he doesn't know
why he's right beats are great.

Speaker 3 (01:02:32):
I love beat, like listen, love beats.
I think they're very underrated.
Yeah, I know they taste, tasteearthy, which a lot of people
don't really like, butpersonally I'm a big beat fan, I
I think they're great.
At least it's a food and, youknow, not a supplement that's
good.

Speaker 5 (01:02:44):
What I've learned from this is that apparently,
giving my child beats will turnthem into a super athlete you've
got to increase their vo2 max.

Speaker 3 (01:02:52):
It'll at least do that yeah, that was interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:02:54):
Take it's fine, it's not like he's wrong.

Speaker 3 (01:02:57):
I feel like I mean that one I'm kind of like all
right beats good.

Speaker 4 (01:03:03):
I hate when they play on like the sports parents who
want their kids to be like superathletes.
It's like the market is therefor.
Like the parents who are likemy kid needs to be this.

Speaker 3 (01:03:15):
It's like no I want my kid to be jordan.
What do I do?

Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
give them beats sounds good I can't imagine
being a parent and being onsocial media, to be honest, like
if you don't have a nutritioneducation.
That has to be so stressful andmake you feel so shitty.

Speaker 5 (01:03:31):
It's also child abuse , because they're just using
their child to sell product.

Speaker 3 (01:03:35):
Yeah, I want to see the last one.

Speaker 1 (01:03:39):
Figuring it out for me was hard enough.
When I was at my heaviest,trying to figure out what to eat
was super hard.

Speaker 3 (01:03:47):
This is far before all these grifters were so
prominent and kids are so pickyoh you have no idea yeah, I mean
my daughter's luckily only likeone and a half right now, so
she'll eat most things like Idon't have to reach the beige
phase, exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:04:05):
Yeah, the beige phase is coming.

Speaker 3 (01:04:07):
Yeah, it's coming so right now I'm just like, yep,
I'll put a bunch of things on aplate and you just kind of pick
whatever and it'll work.
But we'll see how it goes inthe future.
I'm sure it'll be moreinteresting.
All right, I want to see thelast one hold on three lemons,
lemons with vitamin cantioxidants and they help with
phase two liver detoxificationphase two how many phases are

(01:04:27):
there toxins and chemicals.

Speaker 6 (01:04:29):
So make sure your little ones are healthy.
Moringa, beets and lemons,which is why I actually added
these to or, again, if I easygreens, it's oh, there it is
foods that's handcrafted,glyphosate residue free, organic
, for their little bodies andall of their needs so take my
supplement or good luck gettingyour kid to eat a lemon.

Speaker 3 (01:04:49):
Well, that's why you put it in the supplement, Andy.

Speaker 2 (01:04:52):
So they just mix it into their juice.
You want to know what's betterfor liver detoxification?
Cruciferous vegetables,brussels sprouts, broccoli,
cauliflower, cabbage.
There's so many things thatFruits and vegetables.

Speaker 3 (01:05:06):
Beets are a good one, but no supplements are easier
If I had many things that likefruits and vegetables.

Speaker 4 (01:05:09):
beets are a good one, but like no supplements easier
if I had to pick three foods fora child to eat lemon yeah, what
moringa would not be the toptwo I would be like try to get
something to them to eat,something with a color yes,
that's what I say say like canyou get the color?

Speaker 2 (01:05:26):
a protein source that they like A color and the thing
is that kids' protein needsaren't even very high.

Speaker 4 (01:05:31):
Cheese works, yogurt works Like.
My kid won't eat meat unlessit's shaped like a dinosaur.
Yeah, so we do cheese andyogurt and milk Fine.

Speaker 5 (01:05:45):
But, there's like dinosaur, you buy your
face-sized steak and you take adinosaur cookie cutter and you
cut a little dinosaur shape andthen you eat the rest while the
kid eats the dinosaur steakright, my, my t-rex steak
tomahawk.

Speaker 3 (01:05:57):
It is about all the time the protein has infiltrated
like the kids genre.
Now, like all the there's likethese kids products, they're
like high protein.
I'm like does it?
Doesn't need that much proteinlike I know't know, I don't feel
like they need this protein bar.

Speaker 4 (01:06:10):
No, no, they don't.

Speaker 2 (01:06:13):
Yeah, no, such a misconception yeah, would be a
good one yeah, thanks I'd likeyou can find them I'd love um.

Speaker 3 (01:06:20):
Recently I've been seeing it and seeing seeing a
lot of like the uh carnivorecrowd being like uh, uh.
Breast milk is filled withcholesterol, so we should.
Cholesterol is good, so weshould be consuming it, and I'm
like, but being like, breastmilk is filled with cholesterol,
so we should.
Cholesterol is good, so weshould be consuming it and I'm
like but isn't breast milk like50% sugar, like isn't like half
of breast milk sugar?
But we're just, we're leavingthat part out.
No, okay, when that part's notimportant.
Just the cholesterol got it,okay, no problem, I don't know

(01:06:41):
but I think we should find outno carnivore agrees on anything
either.

Speaker 2 (01:06:46):
They're all different .
There's no logic behind itbecause everyone's doing
something different.
Oh man.

Speaker 1 (01:06:51):
Carnivore, like any religion, is going to have its
different sects that go out Likeit's.
They all kind of spawn from thesame couple of books and then
they just all have their owntakes on it.

Speaker 5 (01:07:04):
I absolutely love the fact that Paul Saladino is no
longer carnivore and now all thecarnivores don't have that one
guy that they can look up to andquote and be like this guy,
this guy here.

Speaker 2 (01:07:15):
He's so healthy.
They still say it.
They're like paul said this.

Speaker 4 (01:07:18):
I'm like no, he didn't know what's, the other
one who lives in washington,who's kind of scares me and says
really mean things about veganpeople I don't know, I don't
know who was the who was theorthopedic surgeon oh um oh, I
know there was the, the, thefertility doctor.

Speaker 3 (01:07:36):
He was all talking carnivore, but I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:07:38):
There's another one I know who you're talking about,
but I can't think of his nameeither yeah, me either.

Speaker 4 (01:07:44):
Yeah, there's another one who?

Speaker 2 (01:07:46):
yeah, my friend messaged me the other day and
was like someone's like herfriend's brain doctor
recommended this guy.
It's screaming red flags, whatdo you think about him?
And it was Paul Saladino's pageand I was like that's so great.
I was like he doesn't evenagree with what he said.

(01:08:07):
He's changed his mind oneverything, but again he's
failed four diets so far.

Speaker 1 (01:08:13):
He didn't do well on the carnivore diet just like
religion, the followers don'treally care what the the person
in charge says.
You know, it's, it's.
They're just like well, we'regoing to interpret this, however
, we'd like to interpret it topush our own agenda, whatever it
is that we're trying to go with.

Speaker 5 (01:08:30):
At which point, it becomes a cult.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:08:32):
And we're going to trust that other people don't
know enough about this to checkus.

Speaker 2 (01:08:37):
And if they have more followers, they're more
credible.

Speaker 3 (01:08:40):
The following account is big.

Speaker 1 (01:08:41):
It is so easy to get a following.
At my current rate of growth,I'll have 300,000 followers on
Instagram here shortly, withinthe next month or so.
I've got 115 on TikTok.
I am just a guy.
I have zero credentials and Imake that very clear anytime I
can.
I'm well-educated, but I keepmy mouth shut on stuff I'm not
supposed to be talking about.

(01:09:02):
It is so easy to get afollowing.

Speaker 2 (01:09:06):
I was just talking to someone who she wanted advice
because she's like a healthcoach and a nutritionist, and
she was like I don't know if Ican make a video explaining like
nutrition if I'm not adietitian.
I was like you can do whateveryou want.
Like no one cares as long asyou know what you're talking
about.
Like no one credible is goingto come like after you.
Like just go Like, trust me, weprobably need more of you

(01:09:29):
anyway.
Like people are people.
You can do whatever you want.
You can start your own podcast,you can start your own page.
You can literally do whateveryou want.

Speaker 1 (01:09:34):
I confer with professionals constantly.
I'm talking with my doctorfriends, my dietician friends
and I even I'm still not evengiving any like information out.
I'm just like, does this soundgood enough?
This is like any time I want tohit people with some
information, I'll run it bysomebody who knows what they're
doing, because I'm in thissituation where it's like people
are going to listen to meanyway, so I may as well give

(01:09:56):
them something good.
It sucks that it has to be thisway.
I just stick to the basics fiber, protein, dick joke.

Speaker 3 (01:10:02):
See you later.
And then that's, it works.
It's a fucking try, it works.
Formula go ahead.

Speaker 1 (01:10:08):
Andy, it's all that most people need.

Speaker 4 (01:10:11):
Expertise, though, has died.
Like I said before, it's howmuch charisma you have and how
good of a salesperson you have.

Speaker 5 (01:10:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:10:19):
And I'm not.

Speaker 3 (01:10:21):
I feel like I got decent charisma.
Like, listen, I've got, I'vegot like 300, I got 3 million
followers or something like that.
And so I've got like 300, I got3 million followers or
something like that.
And so I'm just, I want to takethat charisma.
I know it's fucking wild, Idon't know why people follow me,
it doesn't make any sense, butI will happily accept it and
fucking like I'm like, okay,well, let me try and use it for
good.
Then like let me try and getpeople to realize oh nope, just
fucking.
You know, this is just anotherone.

(01:10:42):
Oh man, I'm trying to do I did,I started a rate the grifter
series and I gotta get back tothat.
I did one good one, but I needto do dr burke, I'm looking
forward to I'm oh, my god is agood one.
Do you know dr burke gabbs?

Speaker 5 (01:10:56):
I don't know look up, just look up he's a
chiropractor

Speaker 3 (01:11:00):
yeah yeah, I've been getting tagged a lot of videos
lately.
My favorite Scientologist yes,he's the Scientologist yes uh,
but I was gonna give him pointsfor being a Scientologist.
Yes, he's the Scientologist,but I was going to give him
points for being a Scientologistbut not talking about
Scientology, because even forthe grifting community,
scientology is kind of out there, so even for them I think they
would reel back if they knew.
So I got to give him points forbeing a chiropractor but not

(01:11:23):
saying he's a chiropractoranywhere.
If you go to his page, it's alljust doctor.
It doesn't say anything aboutchiropractic medicine.
So gotta give him points forthat.
I gotta give him points for nottalking about scientology and
he's done videos with bobby, soobviously I have to give him
points for that like and myfavorite, though, is he does
what would happen if you tookturmeric every day, or whatever
and then lists all these greatthings and then sells turmeric

(01:11:44):
supplements and stuff like thatso I think, think that's Dr.
B-E-R-G.
I don't think there's an E atthe end.

Speaker 1 (01:11:50):
Oh, I hate him so much.
I don't know why that name justwent right past my head when
you said it.

Speaker 3 (01:11:55):
Yeah, so I need to do him next on a Rate, the Grifter
, that would be a good one, Iguess, his record will be there
eventually.

Speaker 2 (01:12:02):
He wears orange glasses.
I've corrected him a few times.

Speaker 3 (01:12:06):
Oh, that's Asprey, that's the inject his own urine.

Speaker 4 (01:12:08):
He's the pee guy.

Speaker 3 (01:12:10):
He's the pee guy.
He's the pee guy, he's also thebuttered coffee guy.

Speaker 5 (01:12:14):
I think he sells.
Burt Berg is like a lessimpressive Brecca.

Speaker 3 (01:12:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:12:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:12:19):
Burt doesn't have the charisma of, like some of these
other guys.
I think that's what's kind ofholding him back, so I think I
have to take a few points offfor that.
But like, still A tier.
Like Berg is still A tiergrifter.

Speaker 1 (01:12:30):
I've got a quick question.

Speaker 3 (01:12:34):
Are you both dietitians?
Six or seven, depending onwhere I measure from.
What were you saying, Mike?

Speaker 1 (01:12:38):
Last time we asked this question I don't know if we
had any dietitians in the roomwith us I forget who was with us
last time we said this, but wehad played a quick game of like
what do you think the nexthealth grift is going to be the
2025 health grift?

Speaker 4 (01:12:53):
Hormones.
That's a good one.
It's hormones.

Speaker 1 (01:12:55):
It's hormones.

Speaker 4 (01:12:56):
It's already begun, it's hormones.

Speaker 3 (01:12:58):
Just very vague hormones, nothing specific or
anything specific.

Speaker 4 (01:13:04):
No, it's all hormones .

Speaker 6 (01:13:05):
Just hormones.

Speaker 4 (01:13:06):
Hormone health.
Yeah, the hormone health or thehormone health coaches have
already started popping up.
It's hormones.

Speaker 3 (01:13:11):
Do you think gut health, like the stuff about
that, is going down a little bitand more just hormones?
Okay, it's hormones Are wegoing to be selling?

Speaker 4 (01:13:19):
sex.
No, I called gut health thelast time.

Speaker 3 (01:13:22):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (01:13:22):
And now it's hormones , because the hormone health
coaches have slowly started toemerge.

Speaker 3 (01:13:27):
Is it going to be mostly sup?
So, like I'm guessing, my guesswould be like we're going to do
things to balance your hormonesand then they're going to give
a bunch of like generic shitlike sleep, exercise, eat well,
and then take this.

Speaker 4 (01:13:38):
It's supplements and take my program or like they'll
make up a diet or like a programand a supplement, but the
people are coming out of thewoodwork because you can see it
now Like Beachbody has a newprogram.

Speaker 3 (01:13:53):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (01:13:54):
Um.
Is it like a hormone?

Speaker 3 (01:13:55):
balancing thing Okay.

Speaker 4 (01:13:57):
But they're not telling you which hormones it is
and it's a same old, like theyrepackaged their same old diet.
They give you a list ofsupplements and now it's to
balance your hormones and thenthey just target, like my aged
women, like the 40 somethings.

Speaker 3 (01:14:15):
That's good.

Speaker 4 (01:14:16):
Yeah, no, it's hormones.

Speaker 2 (01:14:17):
People talk about hormones as like a simple thing,
like, oh, like high cortisol,low core hormones aren't like up
and down, they're like alwaysgoing different ways, so it's so
hard.

Speaker 4 (01:14:28):
Yeah, and one they're not going to tell you which one
and your cortisol fluctuatesthroughout the day, your ghrelin
fluctuates throughout the day,your blood sugar fluctuates
throughout the day andpathologizing something that's
not like a pathological problemis a huge problem.
But yeah, I think it's.
I think it's hormones, justbecause you start seeing people

(01:14:50):
changing their bios and makingup titles that aren't real
Hormone specialists.
The hormone health coaches andthe hormone specialists that
don't have.
People are specials.

Speaker 1 (01:15:01):
Professional expert.

Speaker 4 (01:15:03):
Yeah, they're popping up.

Speaker 3 (01:15:07):
I think, with the whole RFK things it's going to
be, I think we're going to getmore like we're bombarded with
toxins Not talking aboutspecific ones, I think we're
just going to see that more Likethere's toxins out there and
you have to do these things andtake this.
I think we're going to see moreof that.

Speaker 4 (01:15:25):
I feel like I think also, too, you're going to see
more of that.
I feel like I think also, too,you're going to see more
healthcare professionals, likeactual people with credentials,
start changing their tune whichI've already seen to align with
their message, because it'seasier to follow the crowd than
to do the right thing.
I think I made a video on itbecause it's going to be more
popular to align with RFK andit's going to get more views and

(01:15:48):
it's going to get more tractionand align with rfk and it's
going to get more views and it'sgoing to get more traction and
attention to align with whathe's saying and you'll kind of
so are we going to see anincrease in the amount of people
that have brain worms?
I mean, they're probablybreeding them somewhere.
But yeah, you're going to see alot more people starting to
change their tune.

Speaker 2 (01:16:05):
That's what I think change your Not necessarily
change your baseline of things,but I think it's good to not be
closed-minded and learn newthings and share them to an
extent.
But I don't think changing yourentire philosophy on different
health conditions is a verybright thing to do.

(01:16:26):
But I think, yeah, that that'sscary.

Speaker 4 (01:16:29):
You've seen people changing their bios well
changing their messaging, likepeople being like oh, I'm
starting to talk about all ofthese harmful ingredients and
ignoring social determinants ofhealth yeah, yeah, it sells more
.
Definitely sells more, it doeswell, it's easier to do what's
easy than what's.

Speaker 3 (01:16:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:16:49):
I just you can go over under.

Speaker 3 (01:16:51):
Oh sorry, Go ahead.
Go ahead, Michael.

Speaker 1 (01:16:52):
I'm just going to say how long do you think I could
get away with telling people tobe mindful of their midichlorian
levels Midichlorian, I wasreally confident about it,
didn't break no wink at thecamera.

Speaker 3 (01:17:04):
I think no wink at the camera.
I think that one's a little toolike a well known.
I think star war is verypopular.
I think you need to picksomething a little bit more
esoteric, just like uh, go intolike a video game or something
like that lesser known and pickone of their diseases or
something in that in that gameyeah, and that, like a few
people will know, and they'llcall it out and I'll just say,
well, oh, you're just believingthe mainstream media.

Speaker 1 (01:17:28):
That's what you're doing right now.

Speaker 3 (01:17:29):
You don't understand.

Speaker 1 (01:17:30):
this is a real problem, that's ultimately,
what's happening with thishormone thing?
The people that are talkingabout hormones couldn't name
three of them, nor what they doJust hormones, hormones are so
hard, they're so complex.

Speaker 2 (01:17:42):
It is I've wanted to get into and I've learned about
about it and I've worked withpeople with hormones but like
even just like gut health.
That area is so complex, likefuck that just like go from
being like learning about gihealth to I know everything
about hormones, like it's somuch to know and they come from
different organs.

Speaker 1 (01:18:01):
It's not even just from like one specific source.

Speaker 3 (01:18:04):
It's just the dunning kruger effect, like the people
who actually are experts in itare like we don't fucking know.
But these people who read ablog, they think they know
everything.

Speaker 4 (01:18:12):
Well, and like, vitamin D is a hormone, and how
many target organs in your bodydoes it have?
Like five, eight, ten, and theydon't even know what it does,
all of it and yet.
So, like good luck, have fun.

Speaker 3 (01:18:28):
Yeah, yeah, but you only need to know a tiny bit
more than the next person to bean expert, right?

Speaker 2 (01:18:34):
I really just want people to.
No matter what you have goingon if it's with your hormones or
your gut, or you're trying tolose weight or whatever it's
like you could take all thesupplements.
But if you're sleeping likecrap, you don't eat enough fiber
, you're not eating enoughprotein, you you're not moving
your body, you're probably stillgonna feel like crap.

(01:18:56):
Yeah it's.
You can't just like putband-aids on things with
supplements not a single one ofthem ever says move more well,
that's kind of the issue that'skind of like.

Speaker 4 (01:19:09):
I feel like the issue with, like our systemic health
is like they're gonna putband-aids on gaping wounds,
banning red three.
We don't have health care,we're gonna take out this
chemical and food.
Nobody can afford to buy food,you know.

Speaker 5 (01:19:23):
It's like, yeah, band-aids, you know it feels
like everybody thinks that youguys banned red 40 when you
banned red three.
Like everybody's talking aboutit as if you banned red 40 and
it's funny because canada, weuse less red 40 than you do, but
we actually use a fair amountof red 3 and yeah you, you think

(01:19:43):
okay, well, if red 3 was such aproblem, shouldn't canada have
worse health than you guys,shouldn't?
Our cancer rates be higher thanyou guys.
Shouldn't our cancer rates behigher than you guys?

Speaker 2 (01:19:56):
Yeah, red, usually like are three.
They have evidence on cancercontributing factors, right?

Speaker 4 (01:20:02):
Red three no only in male rats.
It's super doses that arealready prone to thyroid cancer.

Speaker 1 (01:20:09):
But by a show of hands here, cause I just want to
bust a myth really quick.
How many of us love food dyes?
Raise your hand.

Speaker 4 (01:20:17):
I'm apathetic, I don't care.
Yeah, I agree, I like my foodlooking pretty.

Speaker 1 (01:20:22):
There's this idea that, because we're saying it's
not going to kill you, thatwe're promoting it.
We think, well, we should beputting food dyes in everything.
It would not bother me evenslightly if there was not food
dyes in everything now I wouldbe, it would not bother me even
slightly if there was not fooddyes anymore.
It's in fact I would prefer it,but it's like it's also not
going to give you super cancer.

Speaker 2 (01:20:43):
Yeah, unless you take like 10 vials of it a day I
think people need to understandthat like, just because it could
cause something doesn't mean wehave enough research for it to
like consume your mind to thepoint where you're stressed
about it all the time and I likedon't want to tell people like,
oh, your child isn't.
Like there's a lot of likestudies on, like the red 40.
And I'm not going to like tella parent like they didn't see a

(01:21:06):
difference in when they're likein their child when they took it
out.
But it doesn't mean like wehave to there's just so many
other things to and like we haveto, there's just so many other
things to work on.

Speaker 4 (01:21:16):
First, yes, exactly Like let's focus on the big.
It's like a pyramid Focus onthe really big problems and then
, once that's covered, maybe wecan focus on the minutia.
But we're like we don't havethe luxury of nitpicking.

Speaker 3 (01:21:31):
Now ask me raise your hand, if you like seed oils.

Speaker 2 (01:21:34):
I don't know how I'm going to do it.
So now, raise your hand if youlike seed oils.
I don't know how I'm going todo it.
What did you say?
Raise your hand if you likeseed oils.

Speaker 3 (01:21:38):
Oh, my god, I got my sunflower oil in.
Later I'll probably go withsome like rapeseed or you know
sesame is really good.
Sesame is such an underratedseed oil.

Speaker 6 (01:21:50):
What's your most underrated seed oil.

Speaker 2 (01:21:53):
Sesame.

Speaker 3 (01:21:53):
What did you say gab?

Speaker 2 (01:21:55):
tahini.
People would never call tahinia seed oil, but it is isn't
tahini made from sesame yeah,yeah, so yeah, we're all saying
yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:22:04):
So we're all saying sesame.
Is everybody anybody elsesaying any under any underrated
seed oil besides sesame?

Speaker 4 (01:22:09):
no, yeah, tahini sesame seeds, and then the
people like I.

Speaker 2 (01:22:14):
Have an example like the hyaluronic acid sunflower
oil.
Like Simple Mills they havesunflower oils but they're okay
eating like that because it'sfrom like a healthier brand.

Speaker 4 (01:22:25):
Health washing.
It's so messed up.

Speaker 1 (01:22:28):
One of my favorite questions to ask people that get
all angry about canola oil.
I'll simply respond.
What plant does canola oil comefrom?

Speaker 3 (01:22:38):
the canola plant.

Speaker 1 (01:22:40):
The canola plant but that's the thing it's like.
It sounds fake, but it's.
It sounds so fake that theywill name anything else other
than the canola plant.
Well, it's actually likeindustrial runoff from.

Speaker 4 (01:22:51):
No, it's not, it's you're just angry about
something you don't understandor that they don't use that in
europe, and it's like oh, theyuse plenty oh snap, rapeseed oil
is a thing, right, yeah maybewe should.

Speaker 3 (01:23:07):
Maybe we should retake the name.
Maybe that's the problem.
It's called canola.
Let's start calling it rapeseedagain, rapeseed oil, and maybe
people will hop on board I justoh god about like the.

Speaker 2 (01:23:19):
Well, no one reads one.
But if you isolate oils it's sohard to say that it's the oil
doing something and like, if youhave, like, high cholesterol,
maybe a bunch of coconut oilprobably isn't very good for you
because it's higher insaturated fat than like canola
oil.
It's.
Every oil has so many differentcomponents.

Speaker 3 (01:23:40):
No, no, no, Gab, you're totally off base.
Olive oil is fantastic, so isavocado, and then all seed oils
are trash, fucking industrialrunoff that's used as engine
lubricant.

Speaker 2 (01:23:51):
It's very simple, that's cheap.
Yeah, haven't you been to amechanics workshop as engine?

Speaker 4 (01:23:53):
lubricant.
It's very simple, they're justcheap.

Speaker 2 (01:23:54):
Yeah, they put a bunch of packages.

Speaker 4 (01:23:56):
Haven't you been to a mechanics workshop?
They're just dumping canola oilin all over your car.

Speaker 5 (01:24:01):
Oh yeah, I've got to do an oil change on my truck.
I've been loading up the canolaoil in the garage.

Speaker 3 (01:24:06):
They never give me the sesame oil.
It pisses me off.
There's always rapeseed.
Jesus, my car doesn't likerapeseed.
I've told them this many times.

Speaker 1 (01:24:14):
You got to pay more for that.
That's a premium item.

Speaker 2 (01:24:17):
It's sad because there's brands too.
There's these chips.
I forget what the brand is, butthey're probably good On the
front.
They go no seed oils.
It's just embarrassing forbrands and companies to play
along with things withoutlooking at the actual research
on it.

Speaker 4 (01:24:35):
It's just so interesting to me, but it's all
marketing.
It's marketing.
It's just playing to anaudience and you can't blame
them for doing it.
Oh yeah, no, make some money itworks.

Speaker 1 (01:24:45):
Might I issue an olive branch because I can't
issue a sesame branch here.
Some people won't be listeningbut an olive branch To those who
have somehow gotten to thispoint hearing us talk about
things you don't believe in, whomay be on the quote, unquote
other side, though there is noother side.
We're all on one side here.
If you have been indoctrinatedinto this cult of misinformation

(01:25:10):
because it's let's call it whatit is it's a cult we're not
going to criticize you if youjust say that you were misled.
You don't even have to say youwere wrong or that it's God I
was so dumb.
These people are very persuasiveand they say incorrect things
kindly, which is why I'm alwayspushing for us to tell the truth
kindly, because if we tell itrudely, someone will tell them a

(01:25:33):
lie kindly and take them.
So if you have been misled, itunderstand that.
You are welcome here.
You can talk with.
You can always reach out to me.
I always put this out cause Iwould love for people from the
other side to reach out to me sowe can talk.
I'm like, I'm not going tojudge you, I'm not going to say
anything about it I would lovefor some of those creators to

(01:25:53):
come on here to talk.
I'm not even talking about justcreators, but like people yeah
creators would be great, butthey usually have a financial
interest in staying where theyare.
But again if they're willing tochange too.
They can rebrand hell.
Uh, dr sarah ballentine's oneof them.
You know she rebranded andshe's.
She's got a much better messagenow that she used to.
Um, it's, uh, it's one I couldthink of right now, but it's,

(01:26:19):
yeah it just you're allowed tosay the on an internet where
it's getting more and moredangerous to say you were wrong
about something.
Just say that you were misled,and all of us will take you in.

Speaker 2 (01:26:32):
I think it also is like not even people that are
educating, but like I'm seeingpatients every day and like
they'll be like well, I eatreally healthy.
Like I don't eat seed oils, Idon't eat this, this and this,
and like I'm never going tojudge them.
Because it's so confusingonline and the misinformation.
It's like you don't know who totrust at all, but people are

(01:26:52):
really willing to listen to you,explain it and hear your
perspective and they're like, oh, that makes more sense.
It's just because they've neverbeen explained what things
actually mean to its core.
And then, when they hear it,it's like, yeah, you can keep
avoiding seed oils if you wantto keep avoiding them, but just

(01:27:13):
know that you don't need tocompletely freak out if you see
a seed oil in something you havein your pantry and it's like
people are more open-minded toit.
It's just like online, that'speople aren't, because it's like
one-sided so well, a lot ofsmart people get duped.

Speaker 4 (01:27:29):
do you know what I mean?
Yeah, like, yeah, I was a.
I've been a dietitian for like14 years and for a very long
time when I was a dietitian, Iwas in like the clean eating
cult and then it made me likebinge on weekends but, like a
lot of people, and I thought lowcarb diets were the best kind
of diets when I was a babydietitian Cause we believe a lot

(01:27:50):
of stupid things when we'rebaby believe a lot of stupid
things when we're babydietitians.

Speaker 1 (01:27:59):
but I it took time to get smarter but, yeah, smart
people believe dumb thingssometimes a controversial
opinion here is that flatearthers a bunch of them are
pretty damn smart.
They've got like these.
I'm not saying their result issmart, but they put a lot of
thought into these theories tomake them make sense that a lot
of us would would not arrive at.
They have to really like bethoughtful about this to make it

(01:28:21):
make sense, and that requires abrain that could be rewired for
good you know there's astrategy yeah, they've come up
with insane theories that makeno sense, but in their world,
whereas I mean they're basicallywriting fiction.
It's just like like.
George Lucas is very smart, hecame up with what is essentially
a lie, but we all recognizethat as a movie.

Speaker 2 (01:28:44):
And you think about like the carnivore and just
anyone that has this bigphilosophy on a certain way of
eating.
It's not that they're right,it's that anyone that follows
that diet, for instance, isfocusing on eating whole foods
and getting the like processed,ultra processed foods out.
So it's like, yeah, you feelbetter.
There's so many like people arereally smart and they

(01:29:06):
understand how people's brainswork, and a lot of it's like not
necessarily placebo, but someof it's placebo.
And then some of it's likeyou're making changes that are
going to make you feel better,no matter what.
It's not because of what theysaid is like the way to do it,
it's just like it helps you getthere faster.

Speaker 4 (01:29:24):
Celery juice yeah, it's like celery juice.
That sounds terrible, like thepeople who start drinking celery
juice are like, oh my gosh, Ifeel so much better.
And it's like, bro, it's notthe celery juice, it's maybe
that you're hydrated in themorning and maybe that you feel
hydrated, you did a workout oryou ate a better breakfast and
it's like like the keystonehabit problem right and it's

(01:29:45):
like no, it's not the celeryjuice, it's the other habits
that you built.
Potentially because of thecelery juice that you feel
better.

Speaker 2 (01:29:52):
Because you're taking care of yourself, potentially
because of the celery juice thatyou feel better because you're
taking care of yourself.

Speaker 3 (01:29:57):
I think, all right, I think you're.
I got an idea.
We're playing game, all right.
So, uh, because we're like anhour and a half or so, we all
each take a turn and we and wetell people something to like
focus on in their life or toincorporate more into their life
to make them healthier.
It could be anything, itdoesn't matter.
It could be a food, it could bean activity, it could be
anything, just something that'slike hey, this, add this to your

(01:30:18):
life, incorporate this and itwill be a better thing.
Okay, all right, we'll startwith.
All right, we're, we're all inlike video thing here.

Speaker 1 (01:30:27):
So, mike, you start, then I'll go, then andy, then
gabe I don't want to follow thesmart people, so it's good that
I start, you start.
You can't say the same thing.

Speaker 3 (01:30:35):
that person, before you said anybody else said you
have to say something new eachtime.

Speaker 1 (01:30:40):
So my first thing is going to be just put your shoes
on.
I'm not even telling you to gooutside, I'm not telling you
what it is that you're going todo once you put your shoes on,
but one of the barriers ofgetting outside, getting active,
doing something, is simply it'snot even that you don't want to
go outside is that you don'twant to put your shoes on.
When you put your shoes on,your mind's going to be in a

(01:31:00):
different place.
You're going to already havethat obstacle out of the way.
I'm always wearing clothes thatI could very easily go take a
walk in, because it removes thatbarrier.
So put your shoes on if youfeel like you're stuck easy for
you to say not in canada yeah

Speaker 4 (01:31:13):
it was negative 13 here this morning well, speaking
of that, my thing negative 30.

Speaker 3 (01:31:18):
Hey, hey, it's my turn.
I say um, I say because it didjust snow, fucking snowballs.
Get out and throw snowballs.
You don't realize like we as anadult, we forget how to be a
fucking kid.
You get out, you throw asnowball, something that goes
poof and just snow goeseverywhere and there's this
little light that lights up inyour head you're like oh that's
so cool.

(01:31:38):
Did you see the way it went poof?
And other people like I did seethe way it went poof and it's
really cool and like you canthrow them at each other and it
doesn't really like hurt thatmuch.
You can like throw it at achild and it's really not that
bad.
People don't get mad at you atleast that mad at you for
throwing at children and theylaugh.
They think it's funny and it's athing for them.
They were like oh, I rememberwhen I was younger someone threw

(01:31:58):
snowballs at me and it was fun.
So I say throwing snowballs ismy thing, that you shouldn't go
bring.

Speaker 4 (01:32:04):
Get eight hours of sleep.
Six is not enough, I don't care.
Shut your pie hole.
Get eight and try to go to bedat the same time and your eye
hole yes okay, I like it gapswhat you got.

Speaker 3 (01:32:18):
Okay, I have two.
No, you could, we're going incircles here, come back around.

Speaker 2 (01:32:24):
It's very simple.
The rules are not complicatedokay, but I'm gonna pick this
one instead because I think it'seasier we can come back around
to do another one Every morningwhen you wake up.
Try to not go on your phone forone hour after waking If you
have to like work.
I mean, I'm sure you have acomputer for work, so I think
you can work on that At leaststaying off socials for like a

(01:32:46):
while.

Speaker 4 (01:32:47):
Stop calling me out.
I don't like it.

Speaker 2 (01:32:49):
Yeah, I know Me too.
I'm working on that.

Speaker 5 (01:32:53):
I hate the fact that I have to go after you guys all
picked all the good ones, but,um, I'm going to say, get a
hobby, especially a hobby thatum gets you away from
electronics.
It's a good one, that's good.
It's going to help your mentalhealth.
In a lot of cases it's going toactually help you get active.
Even if it's just, even if it'spainting, doing this with your

(01:33:14):
arms is more active than youjust sitting there watching TV.
I like it.

Speaker 3 (01:33:19):
Painting's nice.
All right, Mike, back to you.
What do we got?
We're going in circles here Go.

Speaker 1 (01:33:23):
As someone who lost 110 pounds and talks to people
who are trying to figure outwhat to eat after being in
similar situations, I tell themto operate like a Taco Bell, and
what I mean by that is TacoBell has a very large menu, but
they've got like six ingredients.
It's just differentcombinations of all day.
Pizza shops work the same way.

(01:33:45):
They've got maybe six, seveningredients or so, but they're
making pizza and they're makinggarlic knots and they're making
calzones and strombolis and it'sit's just different
combinations of the same stuff,but our stupid monkey brains
register it as different itemsso if you can find just like a
central group of items that makea lot of food, you will have

(01:34:05):
what you perceive as a varieddiet and it'll be a lot easier
to uh not get bored with whatyou're eating.

Speaker 3 (01:34:10):
I like that okay, I all right back to me I say read
five pages of that book that'sbeen sitting on your shelf for
three years that you said you'regoing to get to Because you
fucking people man, I do it too.
You're like.
I got to read pages, I got toread fucking chapters, but no,
read three, five pages, put itback down, it's fine.

Speaker 1 (01:34:39):
And you fine, and you come back to it.
That's, that's how you getthrough a book you don't?

Speaker 3 (01:34:41):
you have to read the whole thing in one sitting, so
read three to five.

Speaker 1 (01:34:43):
Check out, uh ben carpenter's fat loss habits just
came out.
That's a good one.

Speaker 5 (01:34:44):
So yeah, I've got mine in the other room.
Ben ben refused to promote hisown book, so everyone here is
promoting it for us we had topromote his book for him.

Speaker 3 (01:34:51):
He wouldn't do it.
We kept trying to get him to.

Speaker 1 (01:34:54):
I already know.
That's why I'm pushing it here.
He can't stop me.

Speaker 3 (01:34:57):
All right, Andy, what do you?

Speaker 4 (01:34:58):
got.
Take at minimum 15 minutes goal30, of something to do.
Could be a, like Rob said,could be a hobby of something to
de-stress, something that isfor you, only for you, without
other people to manage stress.

(01:35:19):
An activity that could go on awalk could be a hobby, could be
a book, just something that youknow reduces your stress level,
because you can't be in fight orflight all day, and a lot of
people don't do this, they justare chaotic all day.
No, find something that lowersyour stress and do it every day.

Speaker 5 (01:35:36):
Yeah that.

Speaker 2 (01:35:39):
Adding on to my start your day an hour away from your
phone.
How do you do that?
That's like entertaining foryou.
Yeah, you can turn on maybe ifyou can't read that book you've
had on your nightstand.
There's audio books foreverything, so listen to that
while you're like washing yournightstand.
There's audiobooks foreverything, so listen to that
while you're like washing yourface, making your coffee, doing
all that listen to either likemusic, a podcast or like a book

(01:36:03):
you like, because whenever I dothat, I feel like my days go so
much better, like whatever it islike.
It's so like just puts you in abetter mood than being on your
phone, because the second youget on your phone, you could be
trapped into anything I'm gonnahave to go with.

Speaker 5 (01:36:17):
Buy in moderation merch.
You will look 20 cooler in thegym.
I promise that your motivationwill go through the roof.
Buy our code rob.

Speaker 3 (01:36:26):
You guys have mugs, liam we do have mugs, yeah, like
get yourself a fun mug thatmakes mornings always better.

Speaker 2 (01:36:32):
What is that right?

Speaker 5 (01:36:34):
Let's see if it'll focus.

Speaker 2 (01:36:35):
Oh, that's nice.

Speaker 5 (01:36:37):
I already know this drink is not approved.
It's a really nice.

Speaker 1 (01:36:40):
It's my favorite mug.
I use it every day.

Speaker 2 (01:36:44):
Not approved.
I've also.

Speaker 1 (01:36:45):
I've got a tank top that says here's a banana.
Calm the fuck down.

Speaker 3 (01:36:50):
You can make a poop one.

Speaker 1 (01:36:51):
Yeah, that's one of my favorites.

Speaker 3 (01:36:52):
I said that once, just because I was ranting about
shit, people were like that'sawesome, put it on a shirt.
I was like I will.

Speaker 1 (01:36:57):
And it's got like a chemical list of all the things
that make up a banana.
So it's like a bunch of aminoacids and sugars and everything
Super cool.

Speaker 3 (01:37:07):
Okay, one more, we'll do one more, and then we'll end
there.

Speaker 1 (01:37:10):
I'm going to assume that a lot of people that are
listening right now probablyconsume a lot of health and
fitness content or they'relooking to improve their lives.
If you are following somebodythat regularly confuses you,
makes you scared or makes yousad, unfollow that person.
Just get rid of them.
I like it.
I don't care if they're adoctor, I don't care if they're,

(01:37:31):
whatever they are that theyclaim to be.

Speaker 3 (01:37:39):
If they're making you upset, scared or confused, just
get rid of them.
That's good, okay, andy talkedabout de-stress, so I want to
bring this one up masturbationjust underrated.
We're talking like bro, we'reall fucking adults here and
people listening probably are.
Maybe they're not.
Who gives a shit and likesexual health is so like
underrated, and especially formen.
Because I remember this study Iwas just going to say the study
, yep.
Yeah, yeah, Out of 30,.

(01:38:03):
They looked at 32,000 men, andmen who ejaculated at least 21
times a month had a 20% lowerchance of prostate cancer
compared to those that did less.
So you know, do it for yourhealth.
That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (01:38:12):
I'm doing it right now Mike gets off to in
moderation that is not somethingI do in moderation all the time
.

Speaker 4 (01:38:19):
My prostate is as healthy as oh shit all right,
andy what you got find one highfiber kind of processed food
whether it be like the highfiber english muffins, the high
fiber tortillas, the, the bonzapasta and then incorporate it
into your day, just one of themthat you like, and build it in,

(01:38:41):
because at least you know that,at least you're getting like
eight grams, five grams, 10grams every day, and it makes it
a lot easier to get closer tothat 20 or 30.

Speaker 3 (01:38:51):
I like that.

Speaker 1 (01:38:51):
That's good my keto bread's got 22 grams when I with
the two slices wow, yeah, twoslices, I know yeah okay, um,
you only have two gap you canpick.

Speaker 2 (01:39:02):
Think of more you have two at the end, all right,
fine, it's the last one, justsaying quickly I'm like liam,
kind of jumping off of liam'sthing, but like not really at
all.
But like every day, look atyourself in the mirror and be
like, say something, like I amawesome, I am like smart.

Speaker 3 (01:39:17):
That's the same as masturbation.

Speaker 2 (01:39:19):
Say something that's like going to make you feel good
about yourself and like, startoff your day and then, um, start
, try to chug a glass of waterevery single morning before like
coffee.
The things that helps me isfinding like I find like a fiber
supplement um, I can't rememberwhich one, but anything that
has some type of flavor, even ifit's just like me or something

(01:39:42):
that gets some flavor that youlike will actually drink.
But we're all capable ofchugging water in the morning
and I think doing that can getyou in a good routine and it's a
really simple thing to do, Ilike that well, this is very
important.

Speaker 5 (01:39:52):
If you are a male listening to this, which is not
really unfortunate, but it's ourlower demographic we actually
have more women but if you are amale listening to this, get a
vasectomy because fromeverything I've seen from people
on this podcast, childrenabsolutely ruin your life.

Speaker 3 (01:40:11):
Get more fiber, get sleep and get your vasectomy
people Jerk off to yourself inthe mirror.

Speaker 1 (01:40:17):
Look at yourself in the mirror Eye contact.
We're building confidence.

Speaker 3 (01:40:21):
I'm getting a vasectomy today.
God damn it.

Speaker 1 (01:40:25):
If anybody's nervous about a vasectomy, I lift.

Speaker 3 (01:40:29):
Reward yourself with some seed oils afterwards, and
don't be your worst.

Speaker 1 (01:40:33):
I've got no more seed .

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