January 18, 2024 • 55 mins
Ever wonder why that guy on your Instagram feed is using a sledgehammer for his workout, or why your aunt swears by a diet of exclusively meat and air? Buckle in, folks, because this episode is a rollercoaster of laughter and enlightenment. Joined by the muscle-whisperer Snitch, we're decoding the viral vortex of bizarre fitness trends and the myths that bedazzle diet enthusiasts. Get ready for an uproarious journey through the good, the bad, and the just plain silly of fitness and nutrition advice.
Hold onto your kale smoothies, because we're not just debunking fads; we're slicing through the thicket of nutrition nonsense and giving you the real skinny on eating well without emptying your wallet. Discover the magic of discount grocery hunting and get the scoop on how to turn pantry staples into nutritional goldmines. From the truth about tuna and mercury to a candid chat about the fiber fanfare, we are dishing out the digestible facts on what really fuels your body and your laughs.
As we wrap up, don't miss our foodie banter that'll have you considering whether oats can legitimately become the new cake. We'll regale you with tales from the culinary frontiers of pre-workout potions, showcasing flavors that sound like they belong in a candy store rather than a gym bag. If you're tired of the same old chocolate peanut butter routine, we've got your taste buds covered. So tune in, chow down, and let's get fortified with both knowledge and nibbles in this episode that's as entertaining as it is informative.
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Speaker 2 (00:02):
Welcome to In Moderation the show where we
give you a moderate dose of infosarcasm and we already know
we're not approved.
Hey everybody, welcome to thepodcast episode.
I'm not even gonna guessbecause I have no idea.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Episode Liam stopped counting ages ago.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
A long like episode three.
I'm not even joking.
Today we have on the episodeRob, Rob, how you doing.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
I'm doing awesome, Liam.
Thank you for asking.
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
You're very you're most welcome.
I guess we should alsointroduce our guest.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Our actual guest.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Our actual guest Snitch, hi, snitch, how you
doing, I'm doing A-OK-ish.
I have sleep deprived, yay.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
It's 2024.
We all are gonna be this.
We've already gone past thefirst week of we're gonna do
better.
Now we're in the bucket.
We give up, snitch, one of myfavorite things.
We're gonna just jump rightinto it.
Guys, we don't need all theinterest stuff.
Snitch, one of my favoritethings about your videos is you
go over these videos of peoplewho do lots of, let's say, odd
(01:18):
exercises.
They're on bo-soo balls or allsorts of crazy contraptions,
doing weird things.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
They look like they belong in the circus.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Oh yes, they probably do very well in that.
Here's the thing.
You kind of come in and say,all right, this is a little out
there.
It might be fun and flashy, buthere's the actual true science.
I kind of want to get into whatmakes those videos blow up,
because those are the videosthat are always big, the
standard, normal shit that wetell people every day that never
(01:51):
seems to blow up.
What is it about those videos?
You think that really capturespeople's attention?
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Well, everybody seems , I feel like, has a really hard
time with fitness.
So what they want is somethingnew they never seen it before
and then combine that with thepromise of really quick or
desired results that youotherwise wouldn't get.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Yes, and we have to mention the person.
If it was a scrawny individualshowing you these exercises,
nobody would listen.
But it's always the big dudesthat are like me, big me lift
big weight.
Weird way, you get big too.
And I'm like, yes, I'm watchingthis guy, he's muscle bound, I
want to be muscle bound, I'mgoing to do what he did and I'm
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going to get big too.
It has nothing to do with theperformance Hansing drugs that
he's on, it's all about theseweird exercises that he's
figured out, right, right.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
And I mean I even saw this one really scrawny kid on
not to be like offensive, butlike noticeably scrawny, and he
used that as like his way tomake comedic like content and he
was making fun of like the bigmuscley guys.
Oh I love that Doing theseweird ass exercises like this is
going to get you a big back,but yet he literally has no back
(03:06):
.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
So it's like I love the parody stuff.
It's so great because you'rethe thing people Right here
snitch tell me.
Tell me the basics of exerciseand how and like how muscle
building works and that sort ofstuff.
Give me the basics.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
So like the very bare minimum, progressive overload,
mechanical tension and yeah sofor what.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Why can't you be on a big bouncy ball throwing
something around that looksexciting?
That is what the people want.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
I mean you could do stuff that's fun, like
intensifiers, drop sets or sorry, intensifiers like drop sets,
like what else?
Fucking myoreps or somethinglike that and make things more
intense and fun.
But the reality is that let'sbe real here it's not like magic
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in that sense.
I mean absolute.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Bo-soup ball bouncing Right.
And here's the thing.
I think those videos can servea purpose and they are sort of
fun to watch and you see peopledoing these weird things and
maybe they encourage people toexercise more and, if you like
them for those reasons, theymight also encourage people to
break a leg.
I mean there's also.
I mean, yeah, there's that, butlike I don't know, I got into
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watching like when I wasstarting out, like working out.
I remember Ryan Hummiston ifanybody's ever watched him on
like YouTube he has all thesedifferent weird exercises and
different variations and stuffand like I enjoyed.
Were they all, like you know,necessary?
Were they optimal?
Maybe not, but like I thoughtit was fun and interesting and I
would make me think like, hey,if I go to the gym today I get
to try that weird thing I sawand it's kind of fun and you
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know, like that I totallyunderstand that.
But just understand, a lot ofit is is gimmicky and that is
the way you get views, becausethe normal stuff is just going
to bore the shit out of people.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
I 100% agree.
I mean there's a point of likehaving fun in the gym where you
cross a line into like dangerousterritory and like, once you
get to the point where you'redeadlifting on the safety bars
with chains and freaking allthat crap, yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Some of the stuff you see is it's really like circus,
like I mean, it is crazy.
You're like, okay, balance thisin one hand and then throw this
up and down all while on oneleg, and it's like that's how I
get big quads.
Okay, sure, like what the fuck?
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Oh my God, have you heard of this?
There's this kinesiologist.
He ruins the name of allkinesiologists and made
kinesiology sound likechiropractic, where he literally
does like half squats withfreaking chains and shit and
he's like huh Joel Seaman.
There you go.
That's the gym wizard.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
So, it's all Okay.
So anybody who doesn't knowJoel Seaman, please pause this
podcast right now.
There's a pause button.
I'm sure somewhere hit that.
Look up Joel Seaman right now.
You will see some exercisesthat make you completely turn
your head, so much that you willneed a chiropractor to readjust
yourself.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
And make sure that before you go look him up, pause
this podcast to put on somecircus music and then go look
him up.
You know you got to doot, doot,doot, doot, doot, doot, doot,
doot, doot, doot, doot, doot,doot, doot.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
So for him it's all based on like 90 degree angles,
angles like you don't go past 90degrees.
Why?
Because he says so and so it'she I mean not going to lie.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
There is actually research to back in it.
However, it's nuance andknowing how to actually read the
literature that can.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Right.
But like he trains withathletes is the thing.
So you see him with like anAntonio Brown or something like
this big superstar athlete andyou're like, whoa, that's how
the pros work out, that's how Ineed to work out, right, and
it's all this like I can't evendescribe any of it.
If I do, I'll just I won't doit justice.
You need to be able to see thestuff he comes up with.
(07:05):
It's phenomenal.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Yeah, it's a good.
It's a good thing to watch ifyou want a good laugh.
But like now, I've got peoplein up in my comment section
saying kinesiology is a joke.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
So it's like that sucks, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
It's like how much of it do you want to, like have in
your field, I guess, where it'slike at one point it's just
like dude, come on, you'reruining everyone else's name.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Right.
So, people, if you see a videothat's got like a millions of
views and someone's doingsomething crazy, just know that
there is a person calling thatperson out.
However, that video will getprobably next to nothing because
you know we love the weird andexotic shit, so stick to the
basics.
That's really unique, yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
It comes from the fact that people think that
muscle goes on fast and whenthey get slow results they think
that there's some sort ofsecret, that they're missing or
something.
And then they see these bigpeople doing fancy things.
It's like oh, that's the secret.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Yeah, I mean, I really think that sort of comes
down to the selling thesupplements to.
You know, when you see like ajug of protein powder, you're
not going to see some likeskinny guy on, you're going to
see something who's like rightit out, like that's, this is his
secret, he uses this proteinpowder right.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Yeah, I mean on top of supplements and just like
looking muscular, like, let'ssay, he's on steroids or
whatever, also making claims oflike ways to grow your body that
don't exist.
The major one that I liketackled was the lower back one,
and then on top of that you'vegot this other guy.
He was claiming that the Reevesdeadlift can like grow your
clavicle bones and it's or likeJoss or Joss or size or whatever
(08:48):
.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Yeah, so here's the thing I'm already intrigued,
like you just said that.
I know in my head it's bullshit, but I'm already like no, I
want to know more about, like,how to grow certain bones and
stuff.
That sounds fun.
I know it's not true, but I'mstill interested in it.
That's how this stuff gets you.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Exactly, and I feel like that's another thing, like
everybody wants the perfectframe, everyone wants the
perfect genetics and some peopledon't want to accept the fact
that it's not going to be there.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
That's another good one too, because yeah, exactly,
you're right, you're a V taper.
If you're kind of blocky orlike, how do I do the exercises
to give me more of this?
And it's like, actually that'sjust how your body's built and,
like, these people are famousinfluencers because they have
the right genetics and the rightcamera and the right the right
supplements and the rightlighting in the right Photoshop.
(09:34):
And the right everything.
So you know it's.
Yeah, it is, it is funny.
But I want to like kind oftransition this into why?
Like, because we do a lot ofnutrition info and we'll see
some people who are givinginformation that's, let's say,
less than stellar, but becausethey look good, people believe
them.
I think that's pretty normal.
(09:55):
But there's so many othervideos where you get someone
who's just saying like just thedumbest, the dumbest of the dumb
, and it still has millions ofviews.
It still has get so muchtraction.
What is it about those ones innutrition that really make the
video blows up?
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Being a doctor coat, that's a big one.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
That's the scope, you know?
Oh, you know what?
Now that I'm thinking about it,you know what I saw?
I saw a chiropractor in onevideo.
He had a bunch of books behindhim and I was like that's genius
, you need a bunch of books.
Has he read any of them?
It doesn't matter.
I saw a bunch of people in thecomments like I stayed and
watched because of the books.
He seemed smart, oh my God.
(10:36):
I mean he was a chiropractor buthe had doctor in his name
because, you know, doctor ofchiropractor fucking nonsense.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
I'm looking over at my bookshelf now like, okay, I'm
doing it wrong.
I've got a bunch of like likemango over there.
I don't.
I need some like fancy books,like chiropractic books and
medical books, and it doesn'tmatter that if I've read them or
not, they're there, right.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
No, no, no, I'm not going to shit about that.
We need leather, bound, lookingfancy and like some big words
that you know, like I don't know.
On the books, maybe some bigwords that people don't know,
Like you know.
That's what we need, and themore we do this podcast, the
more we learn we're doing itwrong, Yep.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Yeah, I definitely agree.
And then another one being onstage with a microphone.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Yeah oh great one.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Gary.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Brecca talks.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
The top phenomenon.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Also, coach Jeremy does a lot of those and those
usually get him big, get him.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
That was awkward.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Let's cut that.
Let's not cut that.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Cut that from oh getting big, now he's going to
start doing those videos, he'sgoing to do exercise videos and
Everyone's going to believe him.
Oh gosh, yeah, I mean it really.
I'm just, I'm fascinated.
I would love to do just like ifsomebody was like you need to
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do some research and somethinglike I want to do research into
what makes a video go viral in,especially like in nutrition,
because it's just, you know, foranyone who has a little bit of
knowledge, you watch it andyou're like I don't understand
how people believe this, but Ithink a lot of it just comes
down to.
It's just new and exciting,right?
Like it's different information.
(12:21):
It's always.
It's like if yes, tell me about, like what the good things that
we need in our diet and a wellbalanced diet.
What do we?
What do we need?
Speaker 3 (12:31):
A good amount of protein, a healthy amount of fat
hit your micronutrients.
So get a lot of veggies in, ohboy.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
See.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Go about one.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
I needed that.
That was my alarm to wake up,because I was falling asleep on
screen from you telling me allthe bull, oh yeah, eat your
whole grains and look goons andlike vegetables.
Fuck that shit.
I want the exact opposite.
I want everything you knowabout nutrition is wrong and
tell me what only youspecifically know.
That is what gets views.
That is what is exciting.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
And that's probably exactly why Karne, like the
carnivore diet, blew up 100%,why it's everything that goes
against what science says.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Right, because we've been saying, like you know, in
general terms, like reducing redmeat intake, and then they come
along and say actually, guys,we have the secret, it's you.
Flip the food pyramid on thehead, because you know how much
everyone hates the food pyramid.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Turn it upside down and we found it in some library
in Germany.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Oh, I love that.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
I love that video and just like just to put the
cherry on top, nobody actuallyreally follows the food pyramid
in America.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
So what like even like Food pyramids, but God says
to what?
2011.
Yeah, in like 14 years is crazy.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
And the new recommendations aren't bad
either.
So it's like a lot, it's myplate.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
You know you get your your veggies, whole grains and
you know protein, whatever thatis.
But you know, again, I thinkit's just it's too boring.
You know we need somethingexciting.
We need something we need.
We need to be told there's asee.
Oh, you know what Guys we knowwe need to talk about.
You know what we fucking needto talk about.
I just thought of it right nowthe whole CMOS and Sheila Jeet
(14:22):
and like have you seen all thatstuff, we and whoever everybody
listening both of them just madethis just collective.
Oh, I died a little on theinside.
A part of my soul has left mybody.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Yeah, part of my soul did leave my body because she
legit is.
She'll a shit in my opinion.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
One of those Sheila's it companies actually tried to
recruit me and I was likeseriously, Dates are sure
everyone because they don'twatch your actual content.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
They love your stuff.
You've never watched my stuff.
You don't want to get yourproduct out there and and and.
The crazy thing is just, it'salways like oh, it's got a
hundred and seventy fourminerals that your body needs.
I'm like I don't think yourbody has that many.
How many minerals?
How many minerals is your body?
Speaker 1 (15:04):
like 15?
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Like not that many Like.
There's not that many that yourbody need.
What the fuck?
What is it?
What, oh, I don't know.
Somebody take over about thisfucking.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
So, on top of only having literally one or two
minerals that are so underdosedthat you would have to literally
eat the entire block of fuckingmud, she'll like she legit is
just mud.
So you would have to eat theentire fucking block to get to
even like a fraction of that,not to mention all the goddamn
heavy metals in it.
(15:37):
And it's like I've had shillageat companies reach out to me
too Along with like Ashwa Gandhiand Seamaw's companies like go
watch my content.
They say, ok, they don't watchmy content.
They have another person, tryto recruit me, go watch my
content.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
No, yeah, the heavy metals things always interest me
because there's a lot of talkabout heavy metals in dark
chocolate or whatever vegetablesyou watch.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Uh, what's non-toxic dad?
Everything's got heavy metalsin it these days, yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
But at the same time they make all these supplements
that aren't, that are regulatedand you know what are the
chances there.
They have heavy metals prettydecent like that in the subway
industry, Like fucking heavymetals is a huge problem.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Yeah, no, I totally agree.
But also I feel like there's alittle more nuance to.
I had this other guy.
He was trying to demonize farmrice fish and tuna for having a
lot of heavy metals, which, ofcourse, is complete bullshit,
considering a wild caught fishtends to have more.
And then you got like tuna andselenium and that.
That's kind of what reallyintrigued me and I think that
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was one of the first times I sawyour content was you were
referencing Sarah Ballantine.
Yeah, Sarah.
Ballantine about like tuna.
I thought that was sointeresting because I never knew
that before then and I wouldyou know we should tell people
this, but we need to tell peoplenow because I get a lot of
questions.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
I get DMs about like tuna Can I have tuna every day?
So, basically, the reason thattuna is a problem people talk
about is mercury, but it's inthe form of methyl mercury,
which binds to selenium, whichyour body needs.
Now the thing is, when it comesto tuna and a lot of other fish
, they're also high in selenium,so it actually, you know, it's
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not binding to the selenium inyour body, whereas, like I think
, like shark like shark has alot.
It might have mercury, but itdoesn't have.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
shark is one of the highest mercury, because I think
swordfish.
I think swordfish is relativeto their position on the food
chain.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Yeah, but even like yeah and tuna, so like it has a
good amount of selenium, so youreally you can have tuna like
every day.
You don't actually have toworry about it for the most part
.
I know there's more concernwith, like, pregnant women and
that sort of stuff, but for themost part, yeah, tuna, totally
fine, I like tuna.
You can.
You can have all the tuna youwant, it's okay.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
Yeah, and I didn't know that and I was like
suffering on my budget because Iwas, I basically thrive off
like cheap protein and back thenI used to eat a lot of tuna.
Now I don't need to like, I'mnot suffering as much, but like
back then, it would have beennice to know that.
But everybody, if you'remongered it so much, I just
believed it like it was commonknowledge.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Yeah, yeah, um, you know what.
But you know what Videos alwaysget me?
The videos sort of like I needcheap protein and then they go
to the dog food and I'm, likeyou know what, I'm intrigued,
like I got to say, like you know, that's high in protein, it's
so cheap.
I'm not that desperate rightnow, but if I was that desperate
, you know, a little water, youblend it up.
I mean, if dogs can eat it, whycan't humans eat it?
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That's how that seems to add upthose numbers.
That's to me.
That makes so much sense, butprobably don't eat dog food.
I'm not, but I also won't tellyou don't do it either.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Don't not do it.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Don't not do it.
I also tell you if you're on abudget.
How much crude protein is inthis.
Let me take a look.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
I'm not buying blue buffalo either.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
That shit's too expensive.
Give me the kibbles and bits.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Oh my God.
But yeah, no, that's, that'sinsane, the things people do on
a budget.
But like it's, it's very trueand it's sad because I feel like
if there was more and I wasspeaking to one of my nutrition
teachers about this If there ismore education, I feel like so
many more people would be ableto eat a little healthier.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Why do we transition right into that?
Fuck it.
This is our podcast.
We can do whatever we want.
So when you were on a budgetand you were eating protein,
what were you doing to get yourprotein in?
Well, still being relativelycheap, because I also get lots
of questions about that.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
A big ass bag of $9.
That was literally this bigsoybeans.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
So that's a smart one that's a good one.
You get fiber as well, you getsome healthy fats, you get a
good amount of protein.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
I think a serving of edamame is what 14 grams of
protein or something, and it'snot that much Like dried yellow
soybeans, though, so I couldmake tofu with it, and that's
what I usually do.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
That's smart.
Yeah, guys, if you're listening, go to the Indian section.
I'm telling you.
You have a lot of grocerystores and they'll have lentils,
big bags of dried red lentils.
They make awesome soups and youcan blend them up and it's
really high in protein and agreat source of fiber.
I understand, judging by a lotof the comments I get.
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People apparently eat like fivegrams of fiber and shit their
brains out.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Like literally anytime I mention fiber, they're
like if I get more than twograms in a day, I'll die out of
my toilet.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
I'm like what is going on with you, like have you
never eaten fiber in your life?
Speaker 3 (20:47):
That's so sad to hear Funny story, so I have a good
time.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
You died on the toilet with fiber.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
I'm actually not kidding.
So I'm pretty sure I also had agallstone, but I'm not 100%
sure.
But last weekend I went to theER for extreme stomach pain.
And you could ask Jackson aboutthis, but they did a whole CAT
scan.
Now, yes, I also did havejaundice, so I don't really know
if it was that or not.
Anyways, they also said that mycolon was really backed up,
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which was putting pressure on mykidney.
Now would you want to take awild guess at how much fiber I
had for the past week?
That week?
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Wait each day.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
Every day yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Every day, I don't know, I'm just considering the
bags of soybeans you're buying.
I'm going to guess like 70grams.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
So I eat a little different now.
I do have meats and chicken.
I don't really eat as manybeans.
However, I eat a lot of highfiber, gluten-free bread.
Jackson how much fiber did Ihave over the course of that
week?
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Over the course of the week.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
Like each day.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Oh, like 150 grams 50 grams 150.
Oh, 150.
Oh, gotcha.
Yeah, I've done like 100, 125,and I handle it OK, but I'm very
used to it.
I'm telling you, it's adouble-edged sword with people.
I'm telling you, if you'relistening to this and you don't
get a lot of fiber, add in asmall amount of fiber.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Go slow.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Yeah, yeah, maybe add in some nuts or some, I don't
know.
Popcorn Like popcorn has liketwo or three grams for serving.
Yeah, so you get a little bitand you're not going crazy
Because I see so many peoplelike I'm going to go to the
extreme wellness wraps.
I'm like that has 11 grams andyou've been eating eight a day,
so like you got to be fuckingcareful with that shit.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
I mean I've been eating 100 grams a day but like
the 160 pushed the limit for me.
And good Lord when I tell youthat my stomach was hurting.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
And I feel like the added fiber in like wraps and
breads and stuff is like it canbe a little harsher too than
just a little foods.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
You know oh yeah, 100%, especially like gluten
free breads and stuff.
It's so difficult to find goodgluten free bread that's not
only low in calorie but alsolike decently tasting that I
quite literally any gluten free.
Anything that's low calorie islike shit.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Tons of fiber, well, yeah, because they got to
fucking bind that shit together,otherwise it's going to fall
over the place.
You're going to have bread soup.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
I know, but it like I literally have to watch my
fiber intake now, which is sofunny considering most people
are trying to get more of it in.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Well, yeah, now that we're talking about fiber, I
guess I should tell people tryand get like generally, you want
to get like 10 to 15 grams perthousand calories you eat.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
So yeah, I wanted to reiterate we're talking about,
like having 100 grams of fiberhere.
We've all been eating fiber alot, we're used to it.
Don't try to jump up to 100.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
We have golden coltons and rectums.
Ok, everybody else, guys, youmere mortals are going to
struggle.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Do not try to do 100 grams of fiber.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
No 20, 25, up to 35, maybe 40.
But like you're really, onceyou start getting into the
hundreds.
You know what's funny.
You know, OK, changing subjectGuys, you know what's funny?
The hunter gatherer tribes,because we see it, with like
carnivore MD, they're alwayslike.
These people eat so much meatand everything and I'm like, if
you look at like the Hadza, theyeat between 100 and 150 grams
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of fiber a day.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Yeah.
Like how much meat are they?
Speaker 2 (24:25):
They're just eating like tubers and shit all day
long.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Like exactly.
They're so much fiber.
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Like, if you think about it, if something is, if
you're going out and hunting andyou're getting a giant I don't
know fucking elephant orsomething.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Yeah, sure they people, the elephants, whales,
whatever they find, narwhal.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
Who cares?
They get a bull or if, like youknow, like a large animal, deer
on a.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Zedbrust.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Which is kind of a carrots, it's the entire village
.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
So like, realistically, you're only
having a small portion of thatanimal because it goes towards
everybody.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Right and the rest you're filling in with like
fucking shit.
You forage and what not Like.
And these paleo diets arealways seem to be like kind of
low in fiber, like when peopleeat them.
Now you know today where islike the people who are actually
eating them.
We're eating over a hundredgrams of fiber in a day.
That's just crazy, yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
The carnivore crowd severely misrepresents the
amount of vegetables, fruitfiber that these tribes get in
their diet, Like they aregetting quite a lot.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
Yeah, yeah.
And like, on top of that fiberis just it's, it's healthy for
you and the more you eat of it,it changes your gut microbiome.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Exactly, yeah.
So like your gut bacteria willshift, it will become easier to
eat fiber.
People always say, like I can'teat beans and I'm like that's
because, like, a serving ofbeans has seven grams of fiber
and you're like not, you'regetting like 10 in a day.
So like you add this on top ofthat, like you're going to be
fucking struggling.
So you add in, just like alittle bit, give your body time,
my goodness.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
And one of the biggest things that again the
carnivore people say is thatfiber isn't necessary.
And no, it's not necessary, butit's beneficial.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
And the funny part is as you hear people like Paul
Saladino in the middle ofgrocery stores bitching about L
carnitine, creatine, nonessential amino acids.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
Right, so it was actually yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
One of my favorite things about Paul Saladino is
the fact that he started out andthe fact that his last name
salad, but he started out strictcarnivore and it went so badly
that he had to reintroduce fiberback in in the form of fruit.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
He won't admit that it was the fiber that he needed.
But that's what he did.
Dude was telling people this isthe healthiest way to eat and
he's dying like a 19th centuryship fucking worker Like he's
dying of like scurvy and shit.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
And sort of insane.
Oh, but again, people stillfollow him and I find that
fascinating.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Because he's a doctor .
That was on Joe Rogan.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
He's a doctor and he's, you know, he's got.
He's very lean, you know, andso I think that plays a place of
factor.
He also looks like his skin isleather, but I don't know, I
don't care about that.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
I mean, I know that Joe Rogan like he always,
sometimes has these people thatcontradict what he believes,
quote unquote every now and thenThen again he'll have them on
just to try to make them lookbad.
But, like, one thing that I'vereally been thinking about was,
like I really hope that one day,if I blow up enough, I can go
on the Joe Rogan podcast andjust completely decredited it,
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because everybody who goes onthere for like health and like
speaks to him on something hebelieves on, it's almost like
it's just perpetuatingmisinformation.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Oh, for sure, when especially comes to the fucking
salad man.
That dude is just oh my God,it's, it's, it's I.
He knows how to get views andhe knows how to, you know, get
people's attention.
I'll fucking give him that shit.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
But that's another thing that's perpetuating these
things.
Is people going on to these bigtalk shows and stuff like that
getting lots of publicity andthen a lot of smaller accounts
that are mimicking that andrepeating it?
It gets a lot of repetition.
You know what?
Speaker 2 (28:29):
I saw.
I saw that like he came outwith a supplement called her
package and it's like ground upfallopian tubes and shit like
from like pigs and whatnot, andlike you do, you do I.
Uterus is seriously.
Yeah no, it's, it's, I'm 100%.
I wanted to talk about it likein a video that is so great,
like oh, is it nonsense,obviously, but like it's so good
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for your average person.
They're like wait, I'm a woman,I have these organs.
If I eat them, that makes itbetter.
Like I love this.
Like it's like we're going backa couple hundred years to the
idea of like miasmas and likefoul smells cause disease and
like yeah, we had the humorswhere you had like blood and
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black, bile and yellow bile.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
Should we go back to selling leeches?
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Leeches is another one.
Yeah, like I love it.
So and those things, you know,people believe they, they, they
worked, I mean, and and peoplestill believe it today and I
find it fascinating.
I'm just, I'm astounded, but Ialso love it in a very like,
very sad sort of way.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
I mean, it's just like everybody wants to go back
in time until they're actuallyback in time.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Oh God, it sounds horrible.
Oh yeah you're.
It's fucking Oregon Trail.
Your daughter just died ofdysentery, like oh yeah, this is
great.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
There's.
There's so much romanticizingof the past.
It's ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
And the best part is they can never actually be like
specific.
So like when they say, eat likeyour ancestors, they eat like
and they're like yeah, eat likeyour ancestors eat raw milk and
meat.
They forget to mention thelittle small fact that everybody
technically has differentancestors and ancestors can be
from different times.
So which ancestor are youtalking about?
The ancestor of humans, whichare a completely different
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species?
You can't even compare to us.
Or the ancestors of Asians,which ate soybeans, the
ancestors of Europeans andEgyptians, which had a lot of
grain?
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Like who?
Whichever ones align with theinformation I'm about to give
you, that's the ancestors.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
I'm talking about, and usually there isn't one.
That's a lie.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
The ones, you know, the ones that ate raw milk and
only me and had six packs.
Those are the ancestors I'mtalking about.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
You mean the ones who drank raw milk and then Louis
Pasteur ended up having to savetheir asses because everybody
started getting sick.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Those ones yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Oh yeah, I'm telling, like I know people give shit to
like all the FDA and this shitand whatnot.
But like I've looked into, likeyou know, I love, I love, like
the history of food and man,some of the shit they did back
in the day.
They would take like milk andtake the cream off the top of
the milk and replace it withstraight up plaster.
Or was the other one cow brains?
They would blend up cow brainsand put it in there because it
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gave it like this, this creamylook to it, and they would give
that to like orphanages.
They would like literally sellthat to like whoever like
couldn't pay a lot.
They would.
They were to place it like andthat was one of the reasons the
FDA and they weren't originallythe FDA.
I forget the name, it wasn'tFDA first, it was something else
and they became the FDA.
But yeah, then they came in andlike, yeah, we can't be given
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like children plaster to eat anddrink and so and like.
So I understand like by peoplehave issues with them.
There's a lot of influence withlike businesses and whatnot.
I totally get that.
But like, again, we're talkingabout going back in the past.
Shit was rough back then.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
Shit was rough, yes, honestly I wouldn't be surprised
.
I mean, the biggest thing aboutlike raw milk and I feel like
this hasn't been the reason Ikeep on like trying to like push
that the same thing sometimesis because people always ignore
like this one thing I'm tryingto say and they'll like take it
out of context or they'llreference another part of the
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video.
But the one thing is is thatraw milk and I'm sure if you've
had Morticia on the podcast sheprobably said the same thing but
like the bacteria that's in rawmilk is naturally there in a
healthy cow.
So it's not like you can just,it's not like a healthy cow is
going to give you good raw milk.
It's still contaminated, Right.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
But, but if I eat the ground up balls of an animal,
that helps my balls right, right.
Exactly, it's like like impulse, I'll do you notice he's got
his package which is just groundup animal testicles.
I take those.
It helps my testicles.
I mean this is.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
I don't know about you, but my ancestors took
ground up testicles in a smallcapsule every day.
Exactly, we all have differentancestors and some, I'm sure,
took those supplements.
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
It's literally the same thing as she'll shit.
It's like grinding up cement,grind up balls, grind up
everything, except for thethings that actually, like,
could potentially help you.
You know, like I don't know,fucking omega three's or omega
sixes if you're deficient.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
I don't, I don't know .
Speaker 2 (33:20):
Oh, it's great, but I guess we should have been to
also fiber supplements decent ifyou want to try it, but, like,
also try and get it from foods,because otherwise, you're going
to get a bunch of questionsabout that.
Try and get it from foods.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
Yeah, also, if you're trying to get more fiber in,
get a giant bag of silim huskand then make pancakes with like
a little silim husk with flouror something else, yeah Like
incorporating it, make your ownsort of like, because you know
you get the high fiber wraps youcan kind of do your own thing
with like baking.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
I kind of like you could add it to like muffins or
something you know like some,like you could grind up some of
that like oat bran cereal orsomething like one of those
really high fiber cereals andyou can make like muffins out of
it.
That would be really cool.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
Yeah, I've been making these like ube pancakes
with like a little silim husk,egg white protein powder and
like this Scotty's gluten freewhatever mix.
It is so good, it like ittastes great and it's got like
what?
Forty grams of fiber.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
You can make it less if you don't want to sit on the
toilet for the next two weeks.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
But yeah, the having things like silim husk or chia
seeds or stuff like that on handto use as ingredients in your
cooking is a great way to addfiber to your meals.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
Yeah, yeah, definitely.
I will say I find it so funnythere's people who fear monger
chia seeds.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
if you haven't already seen these, these people
that fear monger fuckingeverything with water, like we
can't even have water now.
It's ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
Oh, actually I think you guys did like I think Paul
Saladino did a whole video on it, where he like mixed it with
water as if he was like stomachacid.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
Oh yeah, this is what happens in your stomach and
it's like oh, my stomach is alsoa glass of water.
What a coincidence.
I thought everyone's wasfucking.
Hey, it's so bad.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
And then, then I know like you are, like the
professional Bobby Flav,bullshit.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Yeah, yeah, that guy is yeah, something.
But again, yeah, it all comesdown to the supplements and the
you know, just overpriced codit's, it's.
So I guess the part that justhonestly like bothers me the
most is you know how often wehear you know, like eating
healthy is expensive and totallyI understand for some people in
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like food deserts it's.
It's a lot more difficult.
I'm not trying to downplay thatat all, but I think a lot of
the it's expensive to eathealthy comes from these people
that sell these really expensivesupplements or tell you you
know you have to have pastureraised or whatever pasture
raised salmon.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
Yeah, oh my.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
God.
And then it's like they'refucking allergic to I'm sorry
for cursing they're allergic tolike affordable food.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Yeah, and it's.
That's the thing.
It's like it's always the the,the cheap things they demonize,
like beans or you know whateverit is yeah.
It's never like you know, it'slike it just drives me crazy
Really.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
Like, even in like the most recent like fish video
I was talking about before, withthe farm raised fish, like it's
common sense that like a fishswimming in the wild where
there's pollution probably has alot of pollution, probably has
more mercury, but because it'sfarm raised, apparently it has
more mercury because I thinkit's just more affordable.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
So I don't know it.
Just it seems like, whateverthe affordable option is, how
often have you seen someone madea making a video demonizing
fucking caviar?
Yeah, caviar is fucking killingpeople.
Stop eating this.
Like no one gives a shit Likeit's.
It's never frog walk Guys.
Frog was horrible for you.
Stop eating it.
No, it's always the fucking bigbananas or something.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
We are going to have so many people writing in about
your pronunciation of foie gras.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
Foie gras.
Isn't there an R in it?
Nope, there's not.
I listen, how often do I eatfucking whatever?
Gua never.
I never eat that.
I don't know I probably spellit's pronounced caviar bad too.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
I don't know Caviar, oh, something you kind of say it
with a stick up your ass Acouple times.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
Exactly.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
That's about it.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
Oh gosh, pass the grape coupon please.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
Oh my God.
I will say it is like incertain areas and people say
like it's very difficult to eathealthy, and then they show me
like I've had clients who arelike I find it very hard to eat
healthy they show me whatthey're buying and they're like
all organic pasture raised.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
It's not expensive if you just got the conventional
version.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
And I have never seen one of these so-called health
influencers say go check out thediscount rack.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
Yeah, unlike your boy , who literally lives there.
People are always asking melike, where do you find them?
Like, listen people, peoplelisten to me.
Are you listening to me rightnow?
Are you listening to me rightnow?
Okay, they're going to try andhide it from you.
You gotta learn that shit.
Okay, you don't sit back andtake this shit and pay full
price like a fucking numpty.
All right, you go into the backof the store, where they're
always hiding it somewhere, andthey'll be like a little
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discount, like a little redthing or whatever, and there's
all and a lot of it's likenonsense.
Like we are, I see some weirdsupplements and shit there all
the time.
But yeah, I do find all sortsof stuff.
I found like a bunch of coffeethere recently.
I was like fucking cheap coffee.
Yes, please, I'll take that.
Thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
Yeah, I said this on the last time we talked about it
, which was like episodes agothe discount shelf in my local
Walmart.
You have to go all the way backto the baby section, pass that
into where the loading docks are.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
It's in front of the loading dock.
You have to answer theseriddles three.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
And last time I was there, there was a bag of
perfectly good rice half price.
Yep, I love it yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
I mean, I found some like Korean barbecue seasoning
back there.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
Oh yeah, there's lots of seasonings, so good.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
And like seasonings are usually like what Fuckin?
499, 599.
Far too expensive for what theyare.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
Yeah, and I found that for $1.
Going back to the spice trade.
Shit.
I wanna see what's on it.
Shit oh.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
Speaking of like expensive food, it's so like,
it's so bad, like the wholeentire inflation thing.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
Yeah, okay, you know what Everybody's talking about
expensive, everybody right now.
Give your top three cheapestnutritious foods.
What are your top three?
Like best foods that mostpeople can find and not then
like crazy, that most peoplefind at their store that is
relatively inexpensive, I would.
I mean, if I'm gonna start, Iobviously I'm gonna pick beans.
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Nobody else gets beans.
Okay, I get those.
I pick them in any and allforms, dried or canned or
whatever.
Those I eat them every fuckingday, every day.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
Well, what I actually recommend is skip the store.
Try and find a local farmer'smarket or somebody who's raising
hens locally and get eggs fromthem.
They're usually like half theprice that the store has.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
Really I've never I've.
I always feel like farmer'smarkets, shit, are more
expensive.
Speaker 3 (40:35):
Well, usually they're like all in cash, so they can
be more expensive.
Like it depends on whatfarmer's market you go to.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
Yeah, but especially if you find somebody who's just
like a local person who has acouple hens.
They usually sell the eggsbecause they usually, you know,
keep whatever they need and thensell the rest.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
Okay, so I say beans, rob says scavenger hunt, and
then how do you say snitch?
Speaker 3 (41:05):
So I think I would have to say quicken and eggs.
People usually demonize, likethey usually in the gym
community.
I know this.
They'll say stop chickenbroccoli.
Oh my God, chicken broccoli andrice.
Do beef and broccoli and rice?
Because beef is so much morenutrient dense.
Now, yes, it's more nutrientdense in some aspects and it has
(41:26):
a little more fat, but combinedchicken with eggs and it's
basically just as just as good,if not better, than beef and
it's cheaper.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
Yeah, and you can always do chicken thighs which
are like a little fattier, alittle more saturated fat, but
as long as you're balancing itout with other things, it's well
another thing for my scavengerhunt is we actually looked
around and we found a supplierfor that's actually a really
good one right there.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
I'm not kidding that, that was actually a really good
one forging mushrooms, but weactually found a supplier for
whole chicken.
We're getting like the entirechicken.
We have to portion up ourselves, which of course we can do.
It takes a little extra timebut it saves you money if you're
looking for that, and we'regetting these whole chickens big
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ass chickens for three bucks.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
Well, not everyone lives in the middle of nowhere,
like Rob, where there's just allflowers and shit.
Okay, some of us live in cities.
So I'm going to say go and getyourself some oats.
Here's why.
Because I just blended upEverybody.
These people right here justsaw I made this like oat mug
cake again, where you just likeblend up the oats.
Everybody always tell me Idon't like the texture of oats.
Fine, then blend them up withsome cocoa powder and some
(42:39):
protein powder and make like alittle second cake muffin thing
for breakfast or you know, makes.
Just blend them up, make.
You can make oat flour and youmake all sorts of things.
Oats are cheap and they're verynutritious, no matter what
fucking salad man says oats arefantastic.
Speaker 3 (42:54):
I love oats Um oats are bad food.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
And I will eat them as such.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
I'm literally here talking about going and
scavenging things.
I think I correct.
I fall into the peasantcategory.
Speaker 3 (43:12):
Damn.
Oh my God, I would suggestpumpkin too.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
Oh, that's a good one , that's a good one.
Speaker 1 (43:17):
Pumpkin squash.
Speaker 2 (43:19):
We should say all squash, yeah, underrated, oh my.
Speaker 3 (43:22):
God, by the way, have you ever tried?
This is like my love and liferight here, um yeah, it is.
It's an Asian pumpkin.
They're called kabocha.
Whoever is on this lot likepodcast right now?
Go, go, look at, it's like abetter version of a pumpkin.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
I saw many brownies out of those.
I wanted to try it.
Where do you get that?
Where you get that?
Speaker 3 (43:46):
Um, you can get these at like Asian markets or like
Latin markets.
They usually sell under likewhat is it called?
Call a bossa or something Asian.
It's called Asian pumpkin orkabocha squash.
Kabocha, it's like one of myfavorite.
I make French toast with it,Like I would suggest you know
what you should try the Frenchtoast one.
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It's really good.
Speaker 1 (44:08):
It's like butter it's .
Speaker 3 (44:11):
it's like a sweet potato and a pumpkin had a baby.
Speaker 1 (44:14):
Nice yeah.
On the note of brownies out ofsquash and stuff, I've literally
just knocked over a thing ofchips.
Don't mind me.
Speaker 2 (44:25):
We're talking about your dishes, foods and your
garbage over there In moderationfood.
Speaker 1 (44:31):
I'm having chips in moderation.
I've got a bag of chips andI've also got a closet that is
full of squash that we harvestedbecause, again, you know, got
to do the scavenger hunting.
Um, and I you know what.
I quickly want to say.
Like I come from, you knowpeople that like, not people
(44:54):
that like but a background ofenjoying harvesting food and
growing food, hunting, fishing,all these things.
I really want to drive homethat that is not necessary, it's
an option, it's an option Ienjoy.
It's an option that Liamwouldn't enjoy.
Speaker 2 (45:16):
Listen.
Speaker 1 (45:16):
I'm not putting together IKEA furniture.
Speaker 2 (45:19):
You think I'm gonna go out and fucking forage for
mushrooms and shit.
I would die.
I would die immediately.
I go grocery store, I buy cheapfood, I eat.
Speaker 3 (45:28):
By the way, Rob, I really wanted to ask this.
I know maybe it's like I don'tknow If there's these giant
mushrooms they're calledpuffball mushrooms.
I've never found one.
I've always wanted to try tofind one and make a puffball
pizza out of it.
It's a dream of mine becausethey're so giant and satisfying
looking.
And if anybody knows, like,where to find puffball mushrooms
(45:52):
, just DM me please.
Speaker 1 (45:53):
Puffball.
I imagine that my girlfriendwould know.
I have never, unfortunatelyshe's, I don't know, at work or
something, so I can't ask her atthe moment.
But I was saying I've got acloset full of squash here and
she'll take that and makemuffins, make cupcakes, make
brownies.
Yeah try that.
Speaker 2 (46:13):
I'm gonna try that and put it in a video.
Anyway, last one I'm just gonnasay is bananas part like this I
like them, but mostly becauseRob hates them.
Speaker 1 (46:19):
So I hate you right now, so I'm just one, exactly.
And as they're disgustingbananas.
Speaker 2 (46:23):
I love bananas, they're so.
I like raspberries orblackberries, they're just
fucking pricey man, especiallywhen you buy them freshly frozen
.
It's a little cheaper, but Godthey're like.
I only buy berries when they'relike three for $4 or something
like that.
That's the only time I'm buyingberries when they're fresh.
Speaker 1 (46:39):
Meanwhile we've got a couple of raspberry bushes
outside.
Yeah fucking yeah.
Speaker 2 (46:45):
I know you're fucking fucking rabbits and you got
bushes of fucking fruit shit outthere.
That's cool, you know all thesepeople growing chickens around
you.
I live in a city, okay.
Speaker 3 (46:55):
We got that.
Oh my God, get rabbit, becauseI always wanted to have some,
because I've my Italian side hasmade like one dish with rabbit
and it was like covered in likethis sauce.
So I never actually got achance to taste it.
So I'm sure it doesn'tstartation.
Speaker 2 (47:13):
Is it because rabbit like you die?
If you were only in rabbit?
What's up with that?
It's missing something, and youguys, less protein is missing,
the type of oh, it's missing.
Speaker 3 (47:21):
It's not a complete protein, like it's not like it's
not too much protein, like it'sliterally just protein
basically.
So if you only ate rabbit, youwould miss out on a lot of fat.
Speaker 2 (47:31):
Oh, is that?
What the problem is Is the lackof fat in that's what.
Speaker 3 (47:36):
that's what I remember hearing, at least Huh.
Speaker 2 (47:38):
I feel like I'm going to have to look into this more.
I don't know, guys, on thispodcast, we just say things that
come to our mind.
We don't know shit.
Anyway, what else you guys aregoing on?
Speaker 3 (47:47):
I found some recent sugar free Reese's chocolate
chip things.
I feel like they would doreally well in your oatmeal
thing.
Speaker 2 (47:55):
Yeah, I like butterfinger bits they're ground
up butterfingers and I likethings that stick to my teeth,
like I like like jujee fruitsand dots and things that just
like permanently sticking yourteeth for the next two months.
That's, that's right.
Speaker 3 (48:09):
My dentist would hate you.
Oh, most people hate me,including dentists, but I still
like anyway, oh my God, I likecrunchy stuff, so the crunchy or
creamy, that sounded weird.
Speaker 2 (48:26):
I hear you're a creamy person, I'm a salty
person.
We'll just go.
Speaker 1 (48:32):
I mean, while these are things I can't forage for,
so I don't know what they are.
Speaker 2 (48:37):
Yeah, diet, soda up there, Get out of here.
Speaker 3 (48:41):
Oh, your diet soda.
Speaker 2 (48:44):
I just finished off.
It's maybe some of my favorite,but Dr Pepper cream soda man,
this is good.
I've been drinking it recently.
Speaker 1 (48:52):
See, I'm going to go visit you just to sample all of
your diet sodas.
Speaker 2 (48:56):
There's a lot of them .
There's too many?
No, there's not too many,there's not enough.
Speaker 1 (49:00):
But so I'm going to have to book like a month to be
drinking a lot of diet soda.
You're probably going to answerfrom all the aspartame.
And then we can drive up tosnitch and just have a party.
Speaker 3 (49:14):
Oh my God.
So uh shoot.
I was blanking out for a second.
What's your favorite diet sodaagain, oh my goodness.
Speaker 2 (49:22):
I probably say like Sun Kiss or A&W Zero, like one
of those.
Those are really good Root beer.
I like root beer.
Speaker 3 (49:30):
Fanta zero for me.
Speaker 2 (49:32):
I don't know if I've had Fanta zero.
I don't know if I can't haveseen that around.
You got Rob.
We know you have some weirdlemonade shit.
Nobody cares.
Speaker 1 (49:41):
I know I've got some weird lemon lemonade, whatever,
nobody, that's nothing.
Speaker 2 (49:46):
That's you got Canada stuff.
Speaker 1 (49:48):
Yeah, it's.
It's the weirdest thing.
It's called president's choiceand we always assume that it was
an American thing because it'spresident's choice.
Speaker 2 (49:55):
No you, when you're in another country, you name it
after something else in adifferent country, so people
think it's like fancy or weirdor different.
Speaker 1 (50:01):
Apparently, yeah, I like.
For the longest time I had noidea that was a Canadian brand.
Speaker 2 (50:07):
I'm going to come out with something to call it
Queens choice or something.
There you go.
I'm sure people were like, ohyeah.
Speaker 1 (50:13):
That instantly made me think of drag queen, so
whatever.
Speaker 2 (50:16):
I'm going to hit all the markets, don't matter, there
you go.
Listen, it's.
We've been doing this foralmost an hour.
It's fucking brain is turningto mush now.
My throat's already fuckinghorse.
I've been yelling.
Speaker 3 (50:30):
Oh, my God, I'm just.
I am so tired.
I have like been staying up forlike Lord knows too late, to
fucking late, and then, on topof that, the lab has been like
killing me.
Speaker 1 (50:43):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 3 (50:43):
It was interesting.
I was learning how to like whatwas.
It is like.
Um, it was like mutagenesis andthe computer wasn't working.
So we sat there for like fourhours just trying to get the
like NCBI to work and I was justlike no yeah.
Speaker 2 (51:01):
So, basically, to wrap it up at the end don't
listen to shirtless people ingrocery stores.
Don't listen to chiropractorsto tell you nutrition advice.
Don't listen to a big man withmuscle Do crazy thing, tell you
you get big and eat your fiberand focus on like affordable
foods.
Guys, come on.
Speaker 1 (51:20):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (51:20):
Come on Shit.
Speaker 1 (51:22):
And so snitch, if people want to find you and
watch you sludge through yourlab work and learn some more
about fancy science things,where would they find you?
Speaker 3 (51:34):
Um, to sludge through my lab work, it would be my
other account, which is just theX, h, e, m, I S T for
scientific stuff, uh, scientificsnitch, and that's.
That's basically it, and I'mthe top one on both.
Speaker 1 (51:52):
So well, okay then, and you should also be plugging
your.
You've got a supplement company, so I mean, come on.
Speaker 2 (51:59):
I sell supplements what I didn't even want to talk
about it on this podcast becauseyou guys shit on supplements,
so much so I didn't even want tobring it up.
Speaker 3 (52:07):
FYI, like the ras, did you try the raspberry white
chocolate one?
Yet If it came in?
I really hope it did, Cause Isent it?
Speaker 1 (52:14):
Do you say it is not made it?
When did you send it?
Speaker 3 (52:19):
I sent it months ago.
Speaker 1 (52:21):
So that's stuck yeah.
I hope customs didn't seize it.
Speaker 3 (52:27):
I hope so.
Oh man, I have to send you somethen, but it's, it is insanely
good Like I drink it as mycoffee now, cause it's just like
it's.
You wouldn't think a raspberrywhite chocolate pre-workout
tastes good, but it is.
It hits different.
Speaker 1 (52:43):
I like I am not even sure what to think about that
yet, until I get to taste itLike raspberry white chocolate.
Speaker 3 (52:52):
I know you wouldn't think it works, but with like a
little bit of almond milk itreally does work, for some
reason.
Speaker 2 (52:58):
Yeah, you make your bean pre-workout.
Make sure you send it to me,okay, cause I want to try that
one.
Speaker 3 (53:04):
I'm making a taro bubble tea one, if that works.
Speaker 2 (53:09):
I guess that's probably better than kidney bean
flavored, but I still go withthe latter.
Speaker 1 (53:13):
I mean, that is my favorite bubble tea flavor.
Speaker 3 (53:16):
So chocolate one.
Speaker 1 (53:19):
But yeah, I've got two tubs here of the tropical
punch, one are empty and I'vebeen like need something to get
me going in the morning again.
Speaker 3 (53:30):
I'm so sad it didn't make it through customs.
Speaker 1 (53:32):
Yeah, that does suck.
Speaker 3 (53:35):
Yeah, the new non.
Like the non-stem sonon-caffeinated one I'm coming
out with.
We were thinking about doingchocolate peanut butter, but
then we changed it to chocolatehazelnut.
So I'm sorry, liam, but I guess.
Speaker 2 (53:50):
Guys, listen, let me run for a second.
I'm so done with chocolate,peanut butter, everything.
I just want peanut butter.
Hey, guess what, guys?
If I want chocolate, I can justadd cocoa to it.
What?
If I don't want chocolate, Ican't remove it from your
product, can I know?
Speaker 1 (54:05):
That's an excellent point.
Speaker 2 (54:06):
Jesus, can you just make a goddamn peanut butter
flavored thing, make it nutterbutters or whatever, I don't
care, I don't want anythingpeanut butter and I will just
add cocoa if I like.
Thank you very much.
Done with my message.
Good night, liam.
Welcome to In Moderation the show where we
give you a moderate dose of infosarcasm and we already know
we're not approved.
Hey everybody, welcome to thepodcast episode.
I'm not even gonna guessbecause I have no idea.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Episode Liam stopped counting ages ago.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
A long like episode three.
I'm not even joking.
Today we have on the episodeRob, Rob, how you doing.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
I'm doing awesome, Liam.
Thank you for asking.
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
You're very you're most welcome.
I guess we should alsointroduce our guest.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Our actual guest.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Our actual guest Snitch, hi, snitch, how you
doing, I'm doing A-OK-ish.
I have sleep deprived, yay.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
It's 2024.
We all are gonna be this.
We've already gone past thefirst week of we're gonna do
better.
Now we're in the bucket.
We give up, snitch, one of myfavorite things.
We're gonna just jump rightinto it.
Guys, we don't need all theinterest stuff.
Snitch, one of my favoritethings about your videos is you
go over these videos of peoplewho do lots of, let's say, odd
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exercises.
They're on bo-soo balls or allsorts of crazy contraptions,
doing weird things.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
They look like they belong in the circus.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Oh yes, they probably do very well in that.
Here's the thing.
You kind of come in and say,all right, this is a little out
there.
It might be fun and flashy, buthere's the actual true science.
I kind of want to get into whatmakes those videos blow up,
because those are the videosthat are always big, the
standard, normal shit that wetell people every day that never
(01:51):
seems to blow up.
What is it about those videos?
You think that really capturespeople's attention?
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Well, everybody seems , I feel like, has a really hard
time with fitness.
So what they want is somethingnew they never seen it before
and then combine that with thepromise of really quick or
desired results that youotherwise wouldn't get.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Yes, and we have to mention the person.
If it was a scrawny individualshowing you these exercises,
nobody would listen.
But it's always the big dudesthat are like me, big me lift
big weight.
Weird way, you get big too.
And I'm like, yes, I'm watchingthis guy, he's muscle bound, I
want to be muscle bound, I'mgoing to do what he did and I'm
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going to get big too.
It has nothing to do with theperformance Hansing drugs that
he's on, it's all about theseweird exercises that he's
figured out, right, right.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
And I mean I even saw this one really scrawny kid on
not to be like offensive, butlike noticeably scrawny, and he
used that as like his way tomake comedic like content and he
was making fun of like the bigmuscley guys.
Oh I love that Doing theseweird ass exercises like this is
going to get you a big back,but yet he literally has no back
(03:06):
.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
So it's like I love the parody stuff.
It's so great because you'rethe thing people Right here
snitch tell me.
Tell me the basics of exerciseand how and like how muscle
building works and that sort ofstuff.
Give me the basics.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
So like the very bare minimum, progressive overload,
mechanical tension and yeah sofor what.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Why can't you be on a big bouncy ball throwing
something around that looksexciting?
That is what the people want.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
I mean you could do stuff that's fun, like
intensifiers, drop sets or sorry, intensifiers like drop sets,
like what else?
Fucking myoreps or somethinglike that and make things more
intense and fun.
But the reality is that let'sbe real here it's not like magic
(04:03):
in that sense.
I mean absolute.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Bo-soup ball bouncing Right.
And here's the thing.
I think those videos can servea purpose and they are sort of
fun to watch and you see peopledoing these weird things and
maybe they encourage people toexercise more and, if you like
them for those reasons, theymight also encourage people to
break a leg.
I mean there's also.
I mean, yeah, there's that, butlike I don't know, I got into
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watching like when I wasstarting out, like working out.
I remember Ryan Hummiston ifanybody's ever watched him on
like YouTube he has all thesedifferent weird exercises and
different variations and stuffand like I enjoyed.
Were they all, like you know,necessary?
Were they optimal?
Maybe not, but like I thoughtit was fun and interesting and I
would make me think like, hey,if I go to the gym today I get
to try that weird thing I sawand it's kind of fun and you
(04:50):
know, like that I totallyunderstand that.
But just understand, a lot ofit is is gimmicky and that is
the way you get views, becausethe normal stuff is just going
to bore the shit out of people.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
I 100% agree.
I mean there's a point of likehaving fun in the gym where you
cross a line into like dangerousterritory and like, once you
get to the point where you'redeadlifting on the safety bars
with chains and freaking allthat crap, yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Some of the stuff you see is it's really like circus,
like I mean, it is crazy.
You're like, okay, balance thisin one hand and then throw this
up and down all while on oneleg, and it's like that's how I
get big quads.
Okay, sure, like what the fuck?
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Oh my God, have you heard of this?
There's this kinesiologist.
He ruins the name of allkinesiologists and made
kinesiology sound likechiropractic, where he literally
does like half squats withfreaking chains and shit and
he's like huh Joel Seaman.
There you go.
That's the gym wizard.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
So, it's all Okay.
So anybody who doesn't knowJoel Seaman, please pause this
podcast right now.
There's a pause button.
I'm sure somewhere hit that.
Look up Joel Seaman right now.
You will see some exercisesthat make you completely turn
your head, so much that you willneed a chiropractor to readjust
yourself.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
And make sure that before you go look him up, pause
this podcast to put on somecircus music and then go look
him up.
You know you got to doot, doot,doot, doot, doot, doot, doot,
doot, doot, doot, doot, doot,doot, doot.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
So for him it's all based on like 90 degree angles,
angles like you don't go past 90degrees.
Why?
Because he says so and so it'she I mean not going to lie.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
There is actually research to back in it.
However, it's nuance andknowing how to actually read the
literature that can.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Right.
But like he trains withathletes is the thing.
So you see him with like anAntonio Brown or something like
this big superstar athlete andyou're like, whoa, that's how
the pros work out, that's how Ineed to work out, right, and
it's all this like I can't evendescribe any of it.
If I do, I'll just I won't doit justice.
You need to be able to see thestuff he comes up with.
(07:05):
It's phenomenal.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Yeah, it's a good.
It's a good thing to watch ifyou want a good laugh.
But like now, I've got peoplein up in my comment section
saying kinesiology is a joke.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
So it's like that sucks, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
It's like how much of it do you want to, like have in
your field, I guess, where it'slike at one point it's just
like dude, come on, you'reruining everyone else's name.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Right.
So, people, if you see a videothat's got like a millions of
views and someone's doingsomething crazy, just know that
there is a person calling thatperson out.
However, that video will getprobably next to nothing because
you know we love the weird andexotic shit, so stick to the
basics.
That's really unique, yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
It comes from the fact that people think that
muscle goes on fast and whenthey get slow results they think
that there's some sort ofsecret, that they're missing or
something.
And then they see these bigpeople doing fancy things.
It's like oh, that's the secret.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Yeah, I mean, I really think that sort of comes
down to the selling thesupplements to.
You know, when you see like ajug of protein powder, you're
not going to see some likeskinny guy on, you're going to
see something who's like rightit out, like that's, this is his
secret, he uses this proteinpowder right.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Yeah, I mean on top of supplements and just like
looking muscular, like, let'ssay, he's on steroids or
whatever, also making claims oflike ways to grow your body that
don't exist.
The major one that I liketackled was the lower back one,
and then on top of that you'vegot this other guy.
He was claiming that the Reevesdeadlift can like grow your
clavicle bones and it's or likeJoss or Joss or size or whatever
(08:48):
.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Yeah, so here's the thing I'm already intrigued,
like you just said that.
I know in my head it's bullshit, but I'm already like no, I
want to know more about, like,how to grow certain bones and
stuff.
That sounds fun.
I know it's not true, but I'mstill interested in it.
That's how this stuff gets you.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Exactly, and I feel like that's another thing, like
everybody wants the perfectframe, everyone wants the
perfect genetics and some peopledon't want to accept the fact
that it's not going to be there.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
That's another good one too, because yeah, exactly,
you're right, you're a V taper.
If you're kind of blocky orlike, how do I do the exercises
to give me more of this?
And it's like, actually that'sjust how your body's built and,
like, these people are famousinfluencers because they have
the right genetics and the rightcamera and the right the right
supplements and the rightlighting in the right Photoshop.
(09:34):
And the right everything.
So you know it's.
Yeah, it is, it is funny.
But I want to like kind oftransition this into why?
Like, because we do a lot ofnutrition info and we'll see
some people who are givinginformation that's, let's say,
less than stellar, but becausethey look good, people believe
them.
I think that's pretty normal.
(09:55):
But there's so many othervideos where you get someone
who's just saying like just thedumbest, the dumbest of the dumb
, and it still has millions ofviews.
It still has get so muchtraction.
What is it about those ones innutrition that really make the
video blows up?
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Being a doctor coat, that's a big one.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
That's the scope, you know?
Oh, you know what?
Now that I'm thinking about it,you know what I saw?
I saw a chiropractor in onevideo.
He had a bunch of books behindhim and I was like that's genius
, you need a bunch of books.
Has he read any of them?
It doesn't matter.
I saw a bunch of people in thecomments like I stayed and
watched because of the books.
He seemed smart, oh my God.
(10:36):
I mean he was a chiropractor buthe had doctor in his name
because, you know, doctor ofchiropractor fucking nonsense.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
I'm looking over at my bookshelf now like, okay, I'm
doing it wrong.
I've got a bunch of like likemango over there.
I don't.
I need some like fancy books,like chiropractic books and
medical books, and it doesn'tmatter that if I've read them or
not, they're there, right.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
No, no, no, I'm not going to shit about that.
We need leather, bound, lookingfancy and like some big words
that you know, like I don't know.
On the books, maybe some bigwords that people don't know,
Like you know.
That's what we need, and themore we do this podcast, the
more we learn we're doing itwrong, Yep.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Yeah, I definitely agree.
And then another one being onstage with a microphone.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Yeah oh great one.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Gary.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Brecca talks.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
The top phenomenon.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Also, coach Jeremy does a lot of those and those
usually get him big, get him.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
That was awkward.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Let's cut that.
Let's not cut that.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Cut that from oh getting big, now he's going to
start doing those videos, he'sgoing to do exercise videos and
Everyone's going to believe him.
Oh gosh, yeah, I mean it really.
I'm just, I'm fascinated.
I would love to do just like ifsomebody was like you need to
(12:00):
do some research and somethinglike I want to do research into
what makes a video go viral in,especially like in nutrition,
because it's just, you know, foranyone who has a little bit of
knowledge, you watch it andyou're like I don't understand
how people believe this, but Ithink a lot of it just comes
down to.
It's just new and exciting,right?
Like it's different information.
(12:21):
It's always.
It's like if yes, tell me about, like what the good things that
we need in our diet and a wellbalanced diet.
What do we?
What do we need?
Speaker 3 (12:31):
A good amount of protein, a healthy amount of fat
hit your micronutrients.
So get a lot of veggies in, ohboy.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
See.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Go about one.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
I needed that.
That was my alarm to wake up,because I was falling asleep on
screen from you telling me allthe bull, oh yeah, eat your
whole grains and look goons andlike vegetables.
Fuck that shit.
I want the exact opposite.
I want everything you knowabout nutrition is wrong and
tell me what only youspecifically know.
That is what gets views.
That is what is exciting.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
And that's probably exactly why Karne, like the
carnivore diet, blew up 100%,why it's everything that goes
against what science says.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Right, because we've been saying, like you know, in
general terms, like reducing redmeat intake, and then they come
along and say actually, guys,we have the secret, it's you.
Flip the food pyramid on thehead, because you know how much
everyone hates the food pyramid.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Turn it upside down and we found it in some library
in Germany.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Oh, I love that.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
I love that video and just like just to put the
cherry on top, nobody actuallyreally follows the food pyramid
in America.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
So what like even like Food pyramids, but God says
to what?
2011.
Yeah, in like 14 years is crazy.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
And the new recommendations aren't bad
either.
So it's like a lot, it's myplate.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
You know you get your your veggies, whole grains and
you know protein, whatever thatis.
But you know, again, I thinkit's just it's too boring.
You know we need somethingexciting.
We need something we need.
We need to be told there's asee.
Oh, you know what Guys we knowwe need to talk about.
You know what we fucking needto talk about.
I just thought of it right nowthe whole CMOS and Sheila Jeet
(14:22):
and like have you seen all thatstuff, we and whoever everybody
listening both of them just madethis just collective.
Oh, I died a little on theinside.
A part of my soul has left mybody.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Yeah, part of my soul did leave my body because she
legit is.
She'll a shit in my opinion.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
One of those Sheila's it companies actually tried to
recruit me and I was likeseriously, Dates are sure
everyone because they don'twatch your actual content.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
They love your stuff.
You've never watched my stuff.
You don't want to get yourproduct out there and and and.
The crazy thing is just, it'salways like oh, it's got a
hundred and seventy fourminerals that your body needs.
I'm like I don't think yourbody has that many.
How many minerals?
How many minerals is your body?
Speaker 1 (15:04):
like 15?
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Like not that many Like.
There's not that many that yourbody need.
What the fuck?
What is it?
What, oh, I don't know.
Somebody take over about thisfucking.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
So, on top of only having literally one or two
minerals that are so underdosedthat you would have to literally
eat the entire block of fuckingmud, she'll like she legit is
just mud.
So you would have to eat theentire fucking block to get to
even like a fraction of that,not to mention all the goddamn
heavy metals in it.
(15:37):
And it's like I've had shillageat companies reach out to me
too Along with like Ashwa Gandhiand Seamaw's companies like go
watch my content.
They say, ok, they don't watchmy content.
They have another person, tryto recruit me, go watch my
content.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
No, yeah, the heavy metals things always interest me
because there's a lot of talkabout heavy metals in dark
chocolate or whatever vegetablesyou watch.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Uh, what's non-toxic dad?
Everything's got heavy metalsin it these days, yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
But at the same time they make all these supplements
that aren't, that are regulatedand you know what are the
chances there.
They have heavy metals prettydecent like that in the subway
industry, Like fucking heavymetals is a huge problem.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Yeah, no, I totally agree.
But also I feel like there's alittle more nuance to.
I had this other guy.
He was trying to demonize farmrice fish and tuna for having a
lot of heavy metals, which, ofcourse, is complete bullshit,
considering a wild caught fishtends to have more.
And then you got like tuna andselenium and that.
That's kind of what reallyintrigued me and I think that
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was one of the first times I sawyour content was you were
referencing Sarah Ballantine.
Yeah, Sarah.
Ballantine about like tuna.
I thought that was sointeresting because I never knew
that before then and I wouldyou know we should tell people
this, but we need to tell peoplenow because I get a lot of
questions.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
I get DMs about like tuna Can I have tuna every day?
So, basically, the reason thattuna is a problem people talk
about is mercury, but it's inthe form of methyl mercury,
which binds to selenium, whichyour body needs.
Now the thing is, when it comesto tuna and a lot of other fish
, they're also high in selenium,so it actually, you know, it's
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not binding to the selenium inyour body, whereas, like I think
, like shark like shark has alot.
It might have mercury, but itdoesn't have.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
shark is one of the highest mercury, because I think
swordfish.
I think swordfish is relativeto their position on the food
chain.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Yeah, but even like yeah and tuna, so like it has a
good amount of selenium, so youreally you can have tuna like
every day.
You don't actually have toworry about it for the most part
.
I know there's more concernwith, like, pregnant women and
that sort of stuff, but for themost part, yeah, tuna, totally
fine, I like tuna.
You can.
You can have all the tuna youwant, it's okay.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
Yeah, and I didn't know that and I was like
suffering on my budget because Iwas, I basically thrive off
like cheap protein and back thenI used to eat a lot of tuna.
Now I don't need to like, I'mnot suffering as much, but like
back then, it would have beennice to know that.
But everybody, if you'remongered it so much, I just
believed it like it was commonknowledge.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Yeah, yeah, um, you know what.
But you know what Videos alwaysget me?
The videos sort of like I needcheap protein and then they go
to the dog food and I'm, likeyou know what, I'm intrigued,
like I got to say, like you know, that's high in protein, it's
so cheap.
I'm not that desperate rightnow, but if I was that desperate
, you know, a little water, youblend it up.
I mean, if dogs can eat it, whycan't humans eat it?
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That's how that seems to add upthose numbers.
That's to me.
That makes so much sense, butprobably don't eat dog food.
I'm not, but I also won't tellyou don't do it either.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Don't not do it.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Don't not do it.
I also tell you if you're on abudget.
How much crude protein is inthis.
Let me take a look.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
I'm not buying blue buffalo either.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
That shit's too expensive.
Give me the kibbles and bits.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Oh my God.
But yeah, no, that's, that'sinsane, the things people do on
a budget.
But like it's, it's very trueand it's sad because I feel like
if there was more and I wasspeaking to one of my nutrition
teachers about this If there ismore education, I feel like so
many more people would be ableto eat a little healthier.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Why do we transition right into that?
Fuck it.
This is our podcast.
We can do whatever we want.
So when you were on a budgetand you were eating protein,
what were you doing to get yourprotein in?
Well, still being relativelycheap, because I also get lots
of questions about that.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
A big ass bag of $9.
That was literally this bigsoybeans.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
So that's a smart one that's a good one.
You get fiber as well, you getsome healthy fats, you get a
good amount of protein.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
I think a serving of edamame is what 14 grams of
protein or something, and it'snot that much Like dried yellow
soybeans, though, so I couldmake tofu with it, and that's
what I usually do.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
That's smart.
Yeah, guys, if you're listening, go to the Indian section.
I'm telling you.
You have a lot of grocerystores and they'll have lentils,
big bags of dried red lentils.
They make awesome soups and youcan blend them up and it's
really high in protein and agreat source of fiber.
I understand, judging by a lotof the comments I get.
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People apparently eat like fivegrams of fiber and shit their
brains out.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Like literally anytime I mention fiber, they're
like if I get more than twograms in a day, I'll die out of
my toilet.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
I'm like what is going on with you, like have you
never eaten fiber in your life?
Speaker 3 (20:47):
That's so sad to hear Funny story, so I have a good
time.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
You died on the toilet with fiber.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
I'm actually not kidding.
So I'm pretty sure I also had agallstone, but I'm not 100%
sure.
But last weekend I went to theER for extreme stomach pain.
And you could ask Jackson aboutthis, but they did a whole CAT
scan.
Now, yes, I also did havejaundice, so I don't really know
if it was that or not.
Anyways, they also said that mycolon was really backed up,
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which was putting pressure on mykidney.
Now would you want to take awild guess at how much fiber I
had for the past week?
That week?
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Wait each day.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
Every day yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Every day, I don't know, I'm just considering the
bags of soybeans you're buying.
I'm going to guess like 70grams.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
So I eat a little different now.
I do have meats and chicken.
I don't really eat as manybeans.
However, I eat a lot of highfiber, gluten-free bread.
Jackson how much fiber did Ihave over the course of that
week?
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Over the course of the week.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
Like each day.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
Oh, like 150 grams 50 grams 150.
Oh, 150.
Oh, gotcha.
Yeah, I've done like 100, 125,and I handle it OK, but I'm very
used to it.
I'm telling you, it's adouble-edged sword with people.
I'm telling you, if you'relistening to this and you don't
get a lot of fiber, add in asmall amount of fiber.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Go slow.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Yeah, yeah, maybe add in some nuts or some, I don't
know.
Popcorn Like popcorn has liketwo or three grams for serving.
Yeah, so you get a little bitand you're not going crazy
Because I see so many peoplelike I'm going to go to the
extreme wellness wraps.
I'm like that has 11 grams andyou've been eating eight a day,
so like you got to be fuckingcareful with that shit.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
I mean I've been eating 100 grams a day but like
the 160 pushed the limit for me.
And good Lord when I tell youthat my stomach was hurting.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
And I feel like the added fiber in like wraps and
breads and stuff is like it canbe a little harsher too than
just a little foods.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
You know oh yeah, 100%, especially like gluten
free breads and stuff.
It's so difficult to find goodgluten free bread that's not
only low in calorie but alsolike decently tasting that I
quite literally any gluten free.
Anything that's low calorie islike shit.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Tons of fiber, well, yeah, because they got to
fucking bind that shit together,otherwise it's going to fall
over the place.
You're going to have bread soup.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
I know, but it like I literally have to watch my
fiber intake now, which is sofunny considering most people
are trying to get more of it in.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Well, yeah, now that we're talking about fiber, I
guess I should tell people tryand get like generally, you want
to get like 10 to 15 grams perthousand calories you eat.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
So yeah, I wanted to reiterate we're talking about,
like having 100 grams of fiberhere.
We've all been eating fiber alot, we're used to it.
Don't try to jump up to 100.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
We have golden coltons and rectums.
Ok, everybody else, guys, youmere mortals are going to
struggle.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Do not try to do 100 grams of fiber.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
No 20, 25, up to 35, maybe 40.
But like you're really, onceyou start getting into the
hundreds.
You know what's funny.
You know, OK, changing subjectGuys, you know what's funny?
The hunter gatherer tribes,because we see it, with like
carnivore MD, they're alwayslike.
These people eat so much meatand everything and I'm like, if
you look at like the Hadza, theyeat between 100 and 150 grams
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of fiber a day.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Yeah.
Like how much meat are they?
Speaker 2 (24:25):
They're just eating like tubers and shit all day
long.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Like exactly.
They're so much fiber.
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Like, if you think about it, if something is, if
you're going out and hunting andyou're getting a giant I don't
know fucking elephant orsomething.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Yeah, sure they people, the elephants, whales,
whatever they find, narwhal.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
Who cares?
They get a bull or if, like youknow, like a large animal, deer
on a.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Zedbrust.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Which is kind of a carrots, it's the entire village
.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
So like, realistically, you're only
having a small portion of thatanimal because it goes towards
everybody.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Right and the rest you're filling in with like
fucking shit.
You forage and what not Like.
And these paleo diets arealways seem to be like kind of
low in fiber, like when peopleeat them.
Now you know today where islike the people who are actually
eating them.
We're eating over a hundredgrams of fiber in a day.
That's just crazy, yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
The carnivore crowd severely misrepresents the
amount of vegetables, fruitfiber that these tribes get in
their diet, Like they aregetting quite a lot.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
Yeah, yeah.
And like, on top of that fiberis just it's, it's healthy for
you and the more you eat of it,it changes your gut microbiome.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Exactly, yeah.
So like your gut bacteria willshift, it will become easier to
eat fiber.
People always say, like I can'teat beans and I'm like that's
because, like, a serving ofbeans has seven grams of fiber
and you're like not, you'regetting like 10 in a day.
So like you add this on top ofthat, like you're going to be
fucking struggling.
So you add in, just like alittle bit, give your body time,
my goodness.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
And one of the biggest things that again the
carnivore people say is thatfiber isn't necessary.
And no, it's not necessary, butit's beneficial.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
And the funny part is as you hear people like Paul
Saladino in the middle ofgrocery stores bitching about L
carnitine, creatine, nonessential amino acids.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
Right, so it was actually yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
One of my favorite things about Paul Saladino is
the fact that he started out andthe fact that his last name
salad, but he started out strictcarnivore and it went so badly
that he had to reintroduce fiberback in in the form of fruit.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
He won't admit that it was the fiber that he needed.
But that's what he did.
Dude was telling people this isthe healthiest way to eat and
he's dying like a 19th centuryship fucking worker Like he's
dying of like scurvy and shit.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
And sort of insane.
Oh, but again, people stillfollow him and I find that
fascinating.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Because he's a doctor .
That was on Joe Rogan.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
He's a doctor and he's, you know, he's got.
He's very lean, you know, andso I think that plays a place of
factor.
He also looks like his skin isleather, but I don't know, I
don't care about that.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
I mean, I know that Joe Rogan like he always,
sometimes has these people thatcontradict what he believes,
quote unquote every now and thenThen again he'll have them on
just to try to make them lookbad.
But, like, one thing that I'vereally been thinking about was,
like I really hope that one day,if I blow up enough, I can go
on the Joe Rogan podcast andjust completely decredited it,
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because everybody who goes onthere for like health and like
speaks to him on something hebelieves on, it's almost like
it's just perpetuatingmisinformation.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Oh, for sure, when especially comes to the fucking
salad man.
That dude is just oh my God,it's, it's, it's I.
He knows how to get views andhe knows how to, you know, get
people's attention.
I'll fucking give him that shit.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
But that's another thing that's perpetuating these
things.
Is people going on to these bigtalk shows and stuff like that
getting lots of publicity andthen a lot of smaller accounts
that are mimicking that andrepeating it?
It gets a lot of repetition.
You know what?
Speaker 2 (28:29):
I saw.
I saw that like he came outwith a supplement called her
package and it's like ground upfallopian tubes and shit like
from like pigs and whatnot, andlike you do, you do I.
Uterus is seriously.
Yeah no, it's, it's, I'm 100%.
I wanted to talk about it likein a video that is so great,
like oh, is it nonsense,obviously, but like it's so good
(28:53):
for your average person.
They're like wait, I'm a woman,I have these organs.
If I eat them, that makes itbetter.
Like I love this.
Like it's like we're going backa couple hundred years to the
idea of like miasmas and likefoul smells cause disease and
like yeah, we had the humorswhere you had like blood and
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black, bile and yellow bile.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
Should we go back to selling leeches?
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Leeches is another one.
Yeah, like I love it.
So and those things, you know,people believe they, they, they
worked, I mean, and and peoplestill believe it today and I
find it fascinating.
I'm just, I'm astounded, but Ialso love it in a very like,
very sad sort of way.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
I mean, it's just like everybody wants to go back
in time until they're actuallyback in time.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
Oh God, it sounds horrible.
Oh yeah you're.
It's fucking Oregon Trail.
Your daughter just died ofdysentery, like oh yeah, this is
great.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
There's.
There's so much romanticizingof the past.
It's ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
And the best part is they can never actually be like
specific.
So like when they say, eat likeyour ancestors, they eat like
and they're like yeah, eat likeyour ancestors eat raw milk and
meat.
They forget to mention thelittle small fact that everybody
technically has differentancestors and ancestors can be
from different times.
So which ancestor are youtalking about?
The ancestor of humans, whichare a completely different
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species?
You can't even compare to us.
Or the ancestors of Asians,which ate soybeans, the
ancestors of Europeans andEgyptians, which had a lot of
grain?
Speaker 2 (30:27):
Like who?
Whichever ones align with theinformation I'm about to give
you, that's the ancestors.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
I'm talking about, and usually there isn't one.
That's a lie.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
The ones, you know, the ones that ate raw milk and
only me and had six packs.
Those are the ancestors I'mtalking about.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
You mean the ones who drank raw milk and then Louis
Pasteur ended up having to savetheir asses because everybody
started getting sick.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Those ones yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
Oh yeah, I'm telling, like I know people give shit to
like all the FDA and this shitand whatnot.
But like I've looked into, likeyou know, I love, I love, like
the history of food and man,some of the shit they did back
in the day.
They would take like milk andtake the cream off the top of
the milk and replace it withstraight up plaster.
Or was the other one cow brains?
They would blend up cow brainsand put it in there because it
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gave it like this, this creamylook to it, and they would give
that to like orphanages.
They would like literally sellthat to like whoever like
couldn't pay a lot.
They would.
They were to place it like andthat was one of the reasons the
FDA and they weren't originallythe FDA.
I forget the name, it wasn'tFDA first, it was something else
and they became the FDA.
But yeah, then they came in andlike, yeah, we can't be given
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like children plaster to eat anddrink and so and like.
So I understand like by peoplehave issues with them.
There's a lot of influence withlike businesses and whatnot.
I totally get that.
But like, again, we're talkingabout going back in the past.
Shit was rough back then.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
Shit was rough, yes, honestly I wouldn't be surprised
.
I mean, the biggest thing aboutlike raw milk and I feel like
this hasn't been the reason Ikeep on like trying to like push
that the same thing sometimesis because people always ignore
like this one thing I'm tryingto say and they'll like take it
out of context or they'llreference another part of the
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video.
But the one thing is is thatraw milk and I'm sure if you've
had Morticia on the podcast sheprobably said the same thing but
like the bacteria that's in rawmilk is naturally there in a
healthy cow.
So it's not like you can just,it's not like a healthy cow is
going to give you good raw milk.
It's still contaminated, Right.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
But, but if I eat the ground up balls of an animal,
that helps my balls right, right.
Exactly, it's like like impulse, I'll do you notice he's got
his package which is just groundup animal testicles.
I take those.
It helps my testicles.
I mean this is.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
I don't know about you, but my ancestors took
ground up testicles in a smallcapsule every day.
Exactly, we all have differentancestors and some, I'm sure,
took those supplements.
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
It's literally the same thing as she'll shit.
It's like grinding up cement,grind up balls, grind up
everything, except for thethings that actually, like,
could potentially help you.
You know, like I don't know,fucking omega three's or omega
sixes if you're deficient.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
I don't, I don't know .
Speaker 2 (33:20):
Oh, it's great, but I guess we should have been to
also fiber supplements decent ifyou want to try it, but, like,
also try and get it from foods,because otherwise, you're going
to get a bunch of questionsabout that.
Try and get it from foods.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
Yeah, also, if you're trying to get more fiber in,
get a giant bag of silim huskand then make pancakes with like
a little silim husk with flouror something else, yeah Like
incorporating it, make your ownsort of like, because you know
you get the high fiber wraps youcan kind of do your own thing
with like baking.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
I kind of like you could add it to like muffins or
something you know like some,like you could grind up some of
that like oat bran cereal orsomething like one of those
really high fiber cereals andyou can make like muffins out of
it.
That would be really cool.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
Yeah, I've been making these like ube pancakes
with like a little silim husk,egg white protein powder and
like this Scotty's gluten freewhatever mix.
It is so good, it like ittastes great and it's got like
what?
Forty grams of fiber.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
You can make it less if you don't want to sit on the
toilet for the next two weeks.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
But yeah, the having things like silim husk or chia
seeds or stuff like that on handto use as ingredients in your
cooking is a great way to addfiber to your meals.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
Yeah, yeah, definitely.
I will say I find it so funnythere's people who fear monger
chia seeds.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
if you haven't already seen these, these people
that fear monger fuckingeverything with water, like we
can't even have water now.
It's ridiculous.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
Oh, actually I think you guys did like I think Paul
Saladino did a whole video on it, where he like mixed it with
water as if he was like stomachacid.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
Oh yeah, this is what happens in your stomach and
it's like oh, my stomach is alsoa glass of water.
What a coincidence.
I thought everyone's wasfucking.
Hey, it's so bad.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
And then, then I know like you are, like the
professional Bobby Flav,bullshit.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Yeah, yeah, that guy is yeah, something.
But again, yeah, it all comesdown to the supplements and the
you know, just overpriced codit's, it's.
So I guess the part that justhonestly like bothers me the
most is you know how often wehear you know, like eating
healthy is expensive and totallyI understand for some people in
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like food deserts it's.
It's a lot more difficult.
I'm not trying to downplay thatat all, but I think a lot of
the it's expensive to eathealthy comes from these people
that sell these really expensivesupplements or tell you you
know you have to have pastureraised or whatever pasture
raised salmon.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
Yeah, oh my.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
God.
And then it's like they'refucking allergic to I'm sorry
for cursing they're allergic tolike affordable food.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Yeah, and it's.
That's the thing.
It's like it's always the the,the cheap things they demonize,
like beans or you know whateverit is yeah.
It's never like you know, it'slike it just drives me crazy
Really.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
Like, even in like the most recent like fish video
I was talking about before, withthe farm raised fish, like it's
common sense that like a fishswimming in the wild where
there's pollution probably has alot of pollution, probably has
more mercury, but because it'sfarm raised, apparently it has
more mercury because I thinkit's just more affordable.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
So I don't know it.
Just it seems like, whateverthe affordable option is, how
often have you seen someone madea making a video demonizing
fucking caviar?
Yeah, caviar is fucking killingpeople.
Stop eating this.
Like no one gives a shit Likeit's.
It's never frog walk Guys.
Frog was horrible for you.
Stop eating it.
No, it's always the fucking bigbananas or something.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
We are going to have so many people writing in about
your pronunciation of foie gras.
Speaker 2 (37:00):
Foie gras.
Isn't there an R in it?
Nope, there's not.
I listen, how often do I eatfucking whatever?
Gua never.
I never eat that.
I don't know I probably spellit's pronounced caviar bad too.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
I don't know Caviar, oh, something you kind of say it
with a stick up your ass Acouple times.
Speaker 2 (37:25):
Exactly.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
That's about it.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
Oh gosh, pass the grape coupon please.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
Oh my God.
I will say it is like incertain areas and people say
like it's very difficult to eathealthy, and then they show me
like I've had clients who arelike I find it very hard to eat
healthy they show me whatthey're buying and they're like
all organic pasture raised.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
It's not expensive if you just got the conventional
version.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
And I have never seen one of these so-called health
influencers say go check out thediscount rack.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
Yeah, unlike your boy , who literally lives there.
People are always asking melike, where do you find them?
Like, listen people, peoplelisten to me.
Are you listening to me rightnow?
Are you listening to me rightnow?
Okay, they're going to try andhide it from you.
You gotta learn that shit.
Okay, you don't sit back andtake this shit and pay full
price like a fucking numpty.
All right, you go into the backof the store, where they're
always hiding it somewhere, andthey'll be like a little
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discount, like a little redthing or whatever, and there's
all and a lot of it's likenonsense.
Like we are, I see some weirdsupplements and shit there all
the time.
But yeah, I do find all sortsof stuff.
I found like a bunch of coffeethere recently.
I was like fucking cheap coffee.
Yes, please, I'll take that.
Thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
Yeah, I said this on the last time we talked about it
, which was like episodes agothe discount shelf in my local
Walmart.
You have to go all the way backto the baby section, pass that
into where the loading docks are.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
It's in front of the loading dock.
You have to answer theseriddles three.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
And last time I was there, there was a bag of
perfectly good rice half price.
Yep, I love it yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
I mean, I found some like Korean barbecue seasoning
back there.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
Oh yeah, there's lots of seasonings, so good.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
And like seasonings are usually like what Fuckin?
499, 599.
Far too expensive for what theyare.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
Yeah, and I found that for $1.
Going back to the spice trade.
Shit.
I wanna see what's on it.
Shit oh.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
Speaking of like expensive food, it's so like,
it's so bad, like the wholeentire inflation thing.
Speaker 2 (39:43):
Yeah, okay, you know what Everybody's talking about
expensive, everybody right now.
Give your top three cheapestnutritious foods.
What are your top three?
Like best foods that mostpeople can find and not then
like crazy, that most peoplefind at their store that is
relatively inexpensive, I would.
I mean, if I'm gonna start, Iobviously I'm gonna pick beans.
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Nobody else gets beans.
Okay, I get those.
I pick them in any and allforms, dried or canned or
whatever.
Those I eat them every fuckingday, every day.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
Well, what I actually recommend is skip the store.
Try and find a local farmer'smarket or somebody who's raising
hens locally and get eggs fromthem.
They're usually like half theprice that the store has.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
Really I've never I've.
I always feel like farmer'smarkets, shit, are more
expensive.
Speaker 3 (40:35):
Well, usually they're like all in cash, so they can
be more expensive.
Like it depends on whatfarmer's market you go to.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
Yeah, but especially if you find somebody who's just
like a local person who has acouple hens.
They usually sell the eggsbecause they usually, you know,
keep whatever they need and thensell the rest.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
Okay, so I say beans, rob says scavenger hunt, and
then how do you say snitch?
Speaker 3 (41:05):
So I think I would have to say quicken and eggs.
People usually demonize, likethey usually in the gym
community.
I know this.
They'll say stop chickenbroccoli.
Oh my God, chicken broccoli andrice.
Do beef and broccoli and rice?
Because beef is so much morenutrient dense.
Now, yes, it's more nutrientdense in some aspects and it has
(41:26):
a little more fat, but combinedchicken with eggs and it's
basically just as just as good,if not better, than beef and
it's cheaper.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
Yeah, and you can always do chicken thighs which
are like a little fattier, alittle more saturated fat, but
as long as you're balancing itout with other things, it's well
another thing for my scavengerhunt is we actually looked
around and we found a supplierfor that's actually a really
good one right there.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
I'm not kidding that, that was actually a really good
one forging mushrooms, but weactually found a supplier for
whole chicken.
We're getting like the entirechicken.
We have to portion up ourselves, which of course we can do.
It takes a little extra timebut it saves you money if you're
looking for that, and we'regetting these whole chickens big
(42:15):
ass chickens for three bucks.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
Well, not everyone lives in the middle of nowhere,
like Rob, where there's just allflowers and shit.
Okay, some of us live in cities.
So I'm going to say go and getyourself some oats.
Here's why.
Because I just blended upEverybody.
These people right here justsaw I made this like oat mug
cake again, where you just likeblend up the oats.
Everybody always tell me Idon't like the texture of oats.
Fine, then blend them up withsome cocoa powder and some
(42:39):
protein powder and make like alittle second cake muffin thing
for breakfast or you know, makes.
Just blend them up, make.
You can make oat flour and youmake all sorts of things.
Oats are cheap and they're verynutritious, no matter what
fucking salad man says oats arefantastic.
Speaker 3 (42:54):
I love oats Um oats are bad food.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
And I will eat them as such.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
I'm literally here talking about going and
scavenging things.
I think I correct.
I fall into the peasantcategory.
Speaker 3 (43:12):
Damn.
Oh my God, I would suggestpumpkin too.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
Oh, that's a good one , that's a good one.
Speaker 1 (43:17):
Pumpkin squash.
Speaker 2 (43:19):
We should say all squash, yeah, underrated, oh my.
Speaker 3 (43:22):
God, by the way, have you ever tried?
This is like my love and liferight here, um yeah, it is.
It's an Asian pumpkin.
They're called kabocha.
Whoever is on this lot likepodcast right now?
Go, go, look at, it's like abetter version of a pumpkin.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
I saw many brownies out of those.
I wanted to try it.
Where do you get that?
Where you get that?
Speaker 3 (43:46):
Um, you can get these at like Asian markets or like
Latin markets.
They usually sell under likewhat is it called?
Call a bossa or something Asian.
It's called Asian pumpkin orkabocha squash.
Kabocha, it's like one of myfavorite.
I make French toast with it,Like I would suggest you know
what you should try the Frenchtoast one.
(44:07):
It's really good.
Speaker 1 (44:08):
It's like butter it's .
Speaker 3 (44:11):
it's like a sweet potato and a pumpkin had a baby.
Speaker 1 (44:14):
Nice yeah.
On the note of brownies out ofsquash and stuff, I've literally
just knocked over a thing ofchips.
Don't mind me.
Speaker 2 (44:25):
We're talking about your dishes, foods and your
garbage over there In moderationfood.
Speaker 1 (44:31):
I'm having chips in moderation.
I've got a bag of chips andI've also got a closet that is
full of squash that we harvestedbecause, again, you know, got
to do the scavenger hunting.
Um, and I you know what.
I quickly want to say.
Like I come from, you knowpeople that like, not people
(44:54):
that like but a background ofenjoying harvesting food and
growing food, hunting, fishing,all these things.
I really want to drive homethat that is not necessary, it's
an option, it's an option Ienjoy.
It's an option that Liamwouldn't enjoy.
Speaker 2 (45:16):
Listen.
Speaker 1 (45:16):
I'm not putting together IKEA furniture.
Speaker 2 (45:19):
You think I'm gonna go out and fucking forage for
mushrooms and shit.
I would die.
I would die immediately.
I go grocery store, I buy cheapfood, I eat.
Speaker 3 (45:28):
By the way, Rob, I really wanted to ask this.
I know maybe it's like I don'tknow If there's these giant
mushrooms they're calledpuffball mushrooms.
I've never found one.
I've always wanted to try tofind one and make a puffball
pizza out of it.
It's a dream of mine becausethey're so giant and satisfying
looking.
And if anybody knows, like,where to find puffball mushrooms
(45:52):
, just DM me please.
Speaker 1 (45:53):
Puffball.
I imagine that my girlfriendwould know.
I have never, unfortunatelyshe's, I don't know, at work or
something, so I can't ask her atthe moment.
But I was saying I've got acloset full of squash here and
she'll take that and makemuffins, make cupcakes, make
brownies.
Yeah try that.
Speaker 2 (46:13):
I'm gonna try that and put it in a video.
Anyway, last one I'm just gonnasay is bananas part like this I
like them, but mostly becauseRob hates them.
Speaker 1 (46:19):
So I hate you right now, so I'm just one, exactly.
And as they're disgustingbananas.
Speaker 2 (46:23):
I love bananas, they're so.
I like raspberries orblackberries, they're just
fucking pricey man, especiallywhen you buy them freshly frozen
.
It's a little cheaper, but Godthey're like.
I only buy berries when they'relike three for $4 or something
like that.
That's the only time I'm buyingberries when they're fresh.
Speaker 1 (46:39):
Meanwhile we've got a couple of raspberry bushes
outside.
Yeah fucking yeah.
Speaker 2 (46:45):
I know you're fucking fucking rabbits and you got
bushes of fucking fruit shit outthere.
That's cool, you know all thesepeople growing chickens around
you.
I live in a city, okay.
Speaker 3 (46:55):
We got that.
Oh my God, get rabbit, becauseI always wanted to have some,
because I've my Italian side hasmade like one dish with rabbit
and it was like covered in likethis sauce.
So I never actually got achance to taste it.
So I'm sure it doesn'tstartation.
Speaker 2 (47:13):
Is it because rabbit like you die?
If you were only in rabbit?
What's up with that?
It's missing something, and youguys, less protein is missing,
the type of oh, it's missing.
Speaker 3 (47:21):
It's not a complete protein, like it's not like it's
not too much protein, like it'sliterally just protein
basically.
So if you only ate rabbit, youwould miss out on a lot of fat.
Speaker 2 (47:31):
Oh, is that?
What the problem is Is the lackof fat in that's what.
Speaker 3 (47:36):
that's what I remember hearing, at least Huh.
Speaker 2 (47:38):
I feel like I'm going to have to look into this more.
I don't know, guys, on thispodcast, we just say things that
come to our mind.
We don't know shit.
Anyway, what else you guys aregoing on?
Speaker 3 (47:47):
I found some recent sugar free Reese's chocolate
chip things.
I feel like they would doreally well in your oatmeal
thing.
Speaker 2 (47:55):
Yeah, I like butterfinger bits they're ground
up butterfingers and I likethings that stick to my teeth,
like I like like jujee fruitsand dots and things that just
like permanently sticking yourteeth for the next two months.
That's, that's right.
Speaker 3 (48:09):
My dentist would hate you.
Oh, most people hate me,including dentists, but I still
like anyway, oh my God, I likecrunchy stuff, so the crunchy or
creamy, that sounded weird.
Speaker 2 (48:26):
I hear you're a creamy person, I'm a salty
person.
We'll just go.
Speaker 1 (48:32):
I mean, while these are things I can't forage for,
so I don't know what they are.
Speaker 2 (48:37):
Yeah, diet, soda up there, Get out of here.
Speaker 3 (48:41):
Oh, your diet soda.
Speaker 2 (48:44):
I just finished off.
It's maybe some of my favorite,but Dr Pepper cream soda man,
this is good.
I've been drinking it recently.
Speaker 1 (48:52):
See, I'm going to go visit you just to sample all of
your diet sodas.
Speaker 2 (48:56):
There's a lot of them .
There's too many?
No, there's not too many,there's not enough.
Speaker 1 (49:00):
But so I'm going to have to book like a month to be
drinking a lot of diet soda.
You're probably going to answerfrom all the aspartame.
And then we can drive up tosnitch and just have a party.
Speaker 3 (49:14):
Oh my God.
So uh shoot.
I was blanking out for a second.
What's your favorite diet sodaagain, oh my goodness.
Speaker 2 (49:22):
I probably say like Sun Kiss or A&W Zero, like one
of those.
Those are really good Root beer.
I like root beer.
Speaker 3 (49:30):
Fanta zero for me.
Speaker 2 (49:32):
I don't know if I've had Fanta zero.
I don't know if I can't haveseen that around.
You got Rob.
We know you have some weirdlemonade shit.
Nobody cares.
Speaker 1 (49:41):
I know I've got some weird lemon lemonade, whatever,
nobody, that's nothing.
Speaker 2 (49:46):
That's you got Canada stuff.
Speaker 1 (49:48):
Yeah, it's.
It's the weirdest thing.
It's called president's choiceand we always assume that it was
an American thing because it'spresident's choice.
Speaker 2 (49:55):
No you, when you're in another country, you name it
after something else in adifferent country, so people
think it's like fancy or weirdor different.
Speaker 1 (50:01):
Apparently, yeah, I like.
For the longest time I had noidea that was a Canadian brand.
Speaker 2 (50:07):
I'm going to come out with something to call it
Queens choice or something.
There you go.
I'm sure people were like, ohyeah.
Speaker 1 (50:13):
That instantly made me think of drag queen, so
whatever.
Speaker 2 (50:16):
I'm going to hit all the markets, don't matter, there
you go.
Listen, it's.
We've been doing this foralmost an hour.
It's fucking brain is turningto mush now.
My throat's already fuckinghorse.
I've been yelling.
Speaker 3 (50:30):
Oh, my God, I'm just.
I am so tired.
I have like been staying up forlike Lord knows too late, to
fucking late, and then, on topof that, the lab has been like
killing me.
Speaker 1 (50:43):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 3 (50:43):
It was interesting.
I was learning how to like whatwas.
It is like.
Um, it was like mutagenesis andthe computer wasn't working.
So we sat there for like fourhours just trying to get the
like NCBI to work and I was justlike no yeah.
Speaker 2 (51:01):
So, basically, to wrap it up at the end don't
listen to shirtless people ingrocery stores.
Don't listen to chiropractorsto tell you nutrition advice.
Don't listen to a big man withmuscle Do crazy thing, tell you
you get big and eat your fiberand focus on like affordable
foods.
Guys, come on.
Speaker 1 (51:20):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (51:20):
Come on Shit.
Speaker 1 (51:22):
And so snitch, if people want to find you and
watch you sludge through yourlab work and learn some more
about fancy science things,where would they find you?
Speaker 3 (51:34):
Um, to sludge through my lab work, it would be my
other account, which is just theX, h, e, m, I S T for
scientific stuff, uh, scientificsnitch, and that's.
That's basically it, and I'mthe top one on both.
Speaker 1 (51:52):
So well, okay then, and you should also be plugging
your.
You've got a supplement company, so I mean, come on.
Speaker 2 (51:59):
I sell supplements what I didn't even want to talk
about it on this podcast becauseyou guys shit on supplements,
so much so I didn't even want tobring it up.
Speaker 3 (52:07):
FYI, like the ras, did you try the raspberry white
chocolate one?
Yet If it came in?
I really hope it did, Cause Isent it?
Speaker 1 (52:14):
Do you say it is not made it?
When did you send it?
Speaker 3 (52:19):
I sent it months ago.
Speaker 1 (52:21):
So that's stuck yeah.
I hope customs didn't seize it.
Speaker 3 (52:27):
I hope so.
Oh man, I have to send you somethen, but it's, it is insanely
good Like I drink it as mycoffee now, cause it's just like
it's.
You wouldn't think a raspberrywhite chocolate pre-workout
tastes good, but it is.
It hits different.
Speaker 1 (52:43):
I like I am not even sure what to think about that
yet, until I get to taste itLike raspberry white chocolate.
Speaker 3 (52:52):
I know you wouldn't think it works, but with like a
little bit of almond milk itreally does work, for some
reason.
Speaker 2 (52:58):
Yeah, you make your bean pre-workout.
Make sure you send it to me,okay, cause I want to try that
one.
Speaker 3 (53:04):
I'm making a taro bubble tea one, if that works.
Speaker 2 (53:09):
I guess that's probably better than kidney bean
flavored, but I still go withthe latter.
Speaker 1 (53:13):
I mean, that is my favorite bubble tea flavor.
Speaker 3 (53:16):
So chocolate one.
Speaker 1 (53:19):
But yeah, I've got two tubs here of the tropical
punch, one are empty and I'vebeen like need something to get
me going in the morning again.
Speaker 3 (53:30):
I'm so sad it didn't make it through customs.
Speaker 1 (53:32):
Yeah, that does suck.
Speaker 3 (53:35):
Yeah, the new non.
Like the non-stem sonon-caffeinated one I'm coming
out with.
We were thinking about doingchocolate peanut butter, but
then we changed it to chocolatehazelnut.
So I'm sorry, liam, but I guess.
Speaker 2 (53:50):
Guys, listen, let me run for a second.
I'm so done with chocolate,peanut butter, everything.
I just want peanut butter.
Hey, guess what, guys?
If I want chocolate, I can justadd cocoa to it.
What?
If I don't want chocolate, Ican't remove it from your
product, can I know?
Speaker 1 (54:05):
That's an excellent point.
Speaker 2 (54:06):
Jesus, can you just make a goddamn peanut butter
flavored thing, make it nutterbutters or whatever, I don't
care, I don't want anythingpeanut butter and I will just
add cocoa if I like.
Thank you very much.
Done with my message.
Good night, liam.
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