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July 5, 2023 41 mins

What if you could transform a childhood hobby into a thriving Instagram account, creating a community around the love of doll collecting? Cassie Jenkins, the talent behind Dolls On The Scene, did just that, and she's here to share her journey with us. www.inthedollworld.com

Cassie's passion for dolls sparked at a young age, and her enthusiasm only grew with her age, with her family playing a considerable role in fostering this love. She opens up about the pivotal role her mother had in her hobby and how her husband encouraged her to share her passion with the world.  She gives us a peek into her creative process in designing dioramas and selecting dolls, with delightful stories of her daughters' enthusiasm for picking dolls. Cassie believes in the joy of collecting dolls, creating unique pieces, and most importantly, building a supportive community around it.

Juggling content creation and family life can be quite a challenge. Cassie shares insights on how she manages to strike that delicate balance. She encourages us to let go of perfectionism, emphasizing the joy in just 'going for it'. She shares her organizational strategies, and the importance of batching content. 

Cassie's work is not just about sharing her love for dolls, but also about making a difference by supporting Black-owned brands and promoting sustainable shopping.

As we discuss her plans for expanding her show, we also touch on her upcoming venture into YouTube. Join us in this episode for a deep dive into the world of doll collecting, the importance of community, and the joy of connecting with others over shared passions.  Visit Cassie on Instagram@dollsonthescene

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Georgette (00:04):
Hello everybody and welcome to In The Dawn World, a
show spotlighting the passionand the people of the Dawn
community With your host,georgia Taylor, former vice
president and co-founder of BigBeautiful Dolls.
Join her as she talks tofascinating Dawn artists,
customizers, avid collectors,redesigners, authors and all the
people in between, as theyshare their journeys, give us

(00:27):
glimpses into their processesand will propel their passion
and drive that help to keep theDawn world moving and shaking.
Welcome to the show, helloeverybody, and welcome to In The
Dawn World.
I'm your host, georgia Taylor,and, as always, i'm so excited
to bring you an amazing guest tothe show, and today is no
exception.
We have the talented CassieJenkins.
She is the creator of theamazing Instagram account called

(00:51):
Dolls on the Scene, in whichshe explores the passion for
doll collecting, her dioramas,her unboxing videos and her ever
so popular which I absolutelylove Twinning Segment, where she
showcases herself and her dollsin matching outfits.
It is so cool.
I just love that and I'm soexcited for you to talk about
how that came about.
But welcome to the show, cassie.

Cassie Jenkins (01:14):
Oh, thank you so much for having me.
I've really been lookingforward to this and I'm excited
to talk to you today.

Georgette (01:19):
I'm excited to talk to you too.
I think you have a really greatbackground the first background
and I just really would likeyou to share a little bit more
about yourself, where you comefrom, and also just tell a
little bit about your journeyinto the world of doll
collecting and what sparked yourinterest in the hobby in
general.

Cassie Jenkins (01:37):
Yes, absolutely So.
California native, born andraised, and I've lived different
places all over the US, butcurrently I am in Los Angeles,
so a mother of two girls they'reeight and 10 and my wonderful
husband who supports my hobby.

Georgette (01:55):
That's important always.
Yeah, it is, it's so importantAnd.

Cassie Jenkins (01:58):
I would say yeah , so I have a corporate job that
I do during the day, so work incorporate e-commerce.
But when I'm not working, inbetween my breaks, in between
meetings, and in the eveningsand weekends, is where I really
lean into this doll hobby.
So I would say it came about.
As a four year old.
I have a twin brother and Ifeel like my grandmother maybe

(02:22):
gave us our first dolls and theywere like roller skating dolls.
He got the kid, i got the Barbieand from then on I was smitten,
went through some doll therapywhen my parents got divorced,
went through some counseling andit was a tough time, but I
remember the counselor had adollhouse and she just let me
play and it was just an escapefor me and my mom saw that I

(02:45):
enjoyed it and she's been such ahuge supporter as well, so she
kept all of my dolls over theyears.

Georgette (02:50):
Yeah, right that You know when I went out to college
.

Cassie Jenkins (02:53):
She kept them and she said, okay, if you ever
have girls and she was openmaybe if you have a son, maybe
he'll be in T2 but she alwayshoped that in some form or
fashion I would come back todolls, and I sure did So.
She had sent them to me.
You know, I feel like a fewyears before the pandemic, when
all my girls were younger and Iwould just do stuff on the side,

(03:15):
I would dress them.
That was my favorite thing.
I studied fashion design and Iwould just dress them and I
would have a style lineup.
I'd be up at probably twoo'clock in the morning when the
kids are asleep and I would justdress them up and take pictures
and just send them to my momand she said you really should.
She called it put it onlinelike, do something with it and I
was like no, not a photographer, I don't know what to do.

(03:36):
Blah, blah, blah, all theexcuses.
And then it really took a fewyears for the pandemic, when I
had more flexibility, i hadtaken a pause for my job and
doing a little bit of, you know,virtual learning with the girls
when they were done.
My husband too.
He was like well, why don't youjust start?
I had a regular Instagram justwith me family stuff, fashion.
But he said why don't you?

(03:58):
why don't you start an account?
So I finally did.
And dolls on the scene.
The name came from the idea ofI like acting and entertaining.
I would say I'm an ambivert, iam an introvert but also an
extrovert.
So I feel like with the dolls.
I've been able to bring out thatoutgoing side of me, And so I

(04:18):
thought, oh, I'll do littlestories And I haven't gotten
there just yet.
But that's the beautiful thingabout having this account and a
hobby it goes through differentiterations, right, So I could do
that, that's true, you know.
So I'll do little snippets ofthings.
So I started that in April 2020, dolls on the scene account and
just little by little, you know, i would show my husband.

(04:39):
He's an artist, he's anillustrator, so I would show him
things like what does this looklike What, how is this laid out
, what are the colors?
And he would just say itdoesn't have to be perfect, just
post what you like.
He would give me little tipsbut also say if you like it,
post it.
That's great.
You know, and that was such anencouragement to me You're in

(04:59):
current.
Your community will grow, thankyou.
So I really tried not to fix aand I still do.
I try not to fix it.
It's.
It's nice when people like youknow like your stuff and give
you a heart and give youcomments, but I also have to go
back.
I always have to go back to ifI like it, i post it.
It's a part of me, and not gettoo caught up in all the
analytics, which is tricky to do.

(05:22):
You know you want to see what,what are people making?
Yeah, more of that.
But I also want to just bringmy unapologetic, authentic self
as well.
So I've kind of stuck with itand really enjoy it.
And the funny part about thetwinning is Tanya.
Miss Tanya from at Grandma getsreal.
Who's so many in the dollcommunity know-and-love.

(05:44):
She started this challenge acouple years ago And so I was
doing a little twinning on theside.
I would find outfits and thingsto match.
But she started a challenge andthat really pushed me.
Twinning is winning withgrandma hashtag and then I just
started like let me do somerills, let me do my personality
and the outfits and I kind ofhaven't stopped from there, Yeah

(06:04):
that is so cool.

Georgette (06:05):
I love it and I really love the encouragement
that your husband gave you, youknow, and I think everybody
needs that encouragement of notwant not just thinking about
being perfect, because thatstops so many people From being
you know, from just doing whatit is that they love, and the
fact that he said don't worryabout it, just do what you love
and people and people willfollow.
You know, people will, will,will just gravitate to what it

(06:28):
is that you do.
And I think you do that so welland I Kind of.
I kind of understand that,because every time I'm always
stressing out too About the showwhat it should be, you know, oh
my gosh, you know you're gonnamonetize, you're gonna do all of
these things and it's just like.
You know.
I just love Being able toshowcase people like you, you
know, who have this talent orthis desire to collect and

(06:49):
showcase styles, and that's whatI love to do.
So I'm just gonna keep doingthat.
So kudos to him for, you know,just giving you that that's such
great advice that he that hegave you.
So Yeah, so I heard I know yousaid you incorporate and I know
you said you dabble in fashion.
So I do know you did say youwanted to be a fashion designer
for me, so So.

(07:11):
So how did you want toincorporate and, and and why
didn't you pursue that, thatarena?

Cassie Jenkins (07:17):
Yeah, what a love doll so much, yes, yes,
what a great.
Ever since I was little, i saidI would make You know we didn't
always have the resources, butmy mom really pushed me to
create and so I had a great auntwho was a seamstress and she
taught me how to sew when I was10 and I would do a mix of
things.
You know, learn how to sew, butalso just take a sock and just

(07:38):
cut up a sock and make somethings.
Right and I just thought mydolls would be on a runway with
that.
So I think as I went throughschool, got my degree in fashion
design, i started to realize Ithink I like more of, i
Appreciate, all sides of fashion, but I think I'll lean more
into the business side.

(07:59):
But I think I have a good mixof kind of the right brain and
left, the analytical and thecreative side, so it'll come
back.
I still feel like it.
There's threads of it and someof the things that I do.
But yeah, that was my, that wasmy dream.
I thought, yeah, i'm gonna dothat.
So I've been able to do somestill work in fashion and some
capacity.

Georgette (08:17):
But but yeah, that's good.
I'm not the brand.
Yeah, that's really good.
So how do you, how do you goabout selecting your dolls that
you add to your collection?
Is there, you know?
is it like oh, i just findsomething.
I'm like, oh, i like that.
Or do you go out specificallythinking I'm gonna look for this
?

Cassie Jenkins (08:32):
Yes, you know, i tried it.
It's tricky to.
The struggle is real in termsof like sustainability It's.
It's such a tricky dance.
So I do a mix of things.
I will do new.
I've got some new dolls behindme.
You got my mini me, so I willkind of go after.
I do like to support Blackowned brands, just because I

(08:54):
didn't see a lot of that when Iwas younger, growing up in the
80s and 90s.
So I support, i support thosebrands and want to support more
as well.
So if anyone's watching likeholler at me, i want to make
sure that I can support yourbrand.
But so that's a mix and thenalso just could be like some of
the Barbie signature dolls Thatare kind of the historical

(09:15):
figures that are right,important, and then the with the
Barbie movie coming out.
Yes, I have to be intentionalfor me.
Okay, everyone can kind of dotheir own thing, that I'm not
buying Everything, but maybejust the things that speak to me
, whether it's like I reallylike that pink and white gingham
dress, i could see myself usingthat in other you know, with

(09:36):
other dolls.
So I think it's a good mix ofthe women owned, black owned
brands Also.
Just a lot of the fashion.
I feel like I'm often drawn tothe fashion before The actual
doll.
I'm seeing a lot more likenatural hair, you know dolls.
So I would say I like todiversify my collection So I've

(09:57):
got lots of different.
You know dolls and skin toneand hair types.
So I think it's just if theyjust have a certain essence.
Yeah, my husband also will textme.
He'll tell me about acollection coming out What do
you think about this doll?
And?
and I'll go back and forth withhim sometimes.

Georgette (10:14):
What do?

Cassie Jenkins (10:14):
you think I want to.
I won't always say that I stickto a budget.
I'll be honest.

Georgette (10:20):
What doll collect?
the judge come on Exactly.

Cassie Jenkins (10:22):
It doesn't work that way.
You like what you like, youlike what you like.
So I try to.
I try to do.
I do that with my own clothes.
Okay, if I'm, if I'm bringingsome things in, i might need to
let some things go.
Yeah, some things go, so Iwould say I'm kind of open and
fluid in some ways in terms ofkind of what I'm, i gravitate to
Okay, okay, very cool, do you?

Georgette (10:43):
I do you?
let your daughters help youpick, pick out dolls?
I do they have fun, they havefun.

Cassie Jenkins (10:49):
So for example, like the Ili forever Disney
dolls.

Georgette (10:53):
That came out a few months back.

Cassie Jenkins (10:56):
I let them because I was careful.
I said, okay, i'm tempted toget all of them, but I don't
want to do that.
So I asked the girls which onesdo you like?
and then one of big sis was inone of the Rills with me with
one of the dolls.
So then they have the and theytell me.
I said, well, tell me somethingspecific that you like, because
it just helps them with theirarticulation.
I'm like her curly hair.
Oh, mommy, look at this denimjacket with the flowers.

(11:19):
And so I like to hear theirtaste.

Georgette (11:22):
Come, come out you know, so cool, i love it, that's
great.
Yeah, i'm a boy, i'm a boy mom,so you know I got two boys and
they weren't not too much intodolls or anything More like
graphic arts, that kind of stuff, you know.
So I have to live vicariouslythrough everybody else lays with
dolls.
So when you, when you startedcreating, did you, when you

(11:43):
first started doing your show,were you creating dioramas then?
or was diorama something thatwas introduced later?
and I guess I want to know islike what is the process for you
designing that, designingdioramas?

Cassie Jenkins (11:59):
I love.
Your questions are sothoughtful.
So no, i wasn't, but I alwaysliked the idea and was always
drawn to dioramas, if I would goto Oh, wow, yeah.
Even kids doing projects inschool.
I don't think I ever had aproject in school, but my sister
she's just a couple yearsyounger than me She had a
diorama project and I basicallydid it for her Because I had so

(12:21):
much fun applying the sand andfinding leaves and I was like,
oh, you could use my littledolls with it.
So I always knew in the back ofmy head, a little intimidated,
i'll be honest, i don't know.
Do I need to have carpentryskills?

Georgette (12:37):
And so I backed away from that.
I literally was just going toask you what was your challenges
, that you had creating them too, because I'm sure there
probably was some.

Cassie Jenkins (12:45):
There were right , So that's not so much in my
wheelhouse.
So I get back to what skillsare kind of in my arsenal that I
can lean into and what skillsmay or may not be something I
want to learn in the future.
So I don't know that carpentryis one of those things and
that's okay.
So I could maybe link up withsomeone who's into it.

(13:05):
My mom likes to do things likethat, so if I wanted something
specific, i could tap into thiswonderful community of talented
people that we have.
So I thought I know how to workat Blue Stick.
I know how to cut poster board,cause I used to have to do
fashion design, mood boards andthings like that.
So I started with that and Ihad lots of knickknacks.

(13:25):
My grandma always called themlittle knickknacks, brick or
Brack, little miniature items,and so I like to re-imagine
items, like when I go to thethrift store.
So that's where thesustainability piece comes from
me.
So, yes, i buy new things.
Yes, i'll buy things thatalready exist that we keep in
the ecosystem, from sellers onmarketplaces, right, dolls that

(13:48):
are doll houses and things likethat.
So I started to just seesomething like a jewelry box and
I'm like, oh, that could be aBarbie dresser.
So, that taps into something inmy brain just like, is so
excited and elated when I findthose kinds of things.
So now my mom looks for thingslike that.
I've got a couple of friendsthat I, hey, could you use this?

(14:09):
And I'll use jewelry that canbe kind of miniature things on
an like a mantle.
So I would say I got intodioramas the more I started to
create, so little by little evenif I would stay up maybe for a
few hours and I'm like, oh, idon't know if I like how this
looks, but I would push myselfto at least finish.

(14:29):
Okay, you painted therefrigerator.
What does the other parts ofthe kitchen look like?
And that, to me, it's reallyfulfilling because it taps into
that creative side.
So I want to continue to dothat.
More dioramas and do that evenmore.
And there's even nooks andcrannies around the house, even

(14:50):
my husband would be like okay, ilike your doll stuff but don't
put it in my office.
You have the doll way, which isthe hallway outside of this
office.

Georgette (14:59):
That is hilarious, the doll way, that's great.

Cassie Jenkins (15:01):
I love it So it's like leverage your space.
Yes, you can, So I want tocontinue to learn.
There's a few things kind of inmy on my bucket list.
I want to continue to lean intoOkay all right, very cool.

Georgette (15:16):
So I know the other part that I do love.
I love everything that you do.
I really do.
But I love the dressing up ofthe dolls and yourself.
Right, i know you said how it'sgot started, but how do you
come up with the ideas, i guess,and also the other fashions?
you know that you, if you seesomething and say, oh, i have
that, and I think my doll has apurple outfit, like how does

(15:37):
that work?
You know, does the doll comefirst in the new or do you come
first in the doll?

Cassie Jenkins (15:42):
Yes, I would say it's probably a 70, 30 split.
So 70 leaning into what thedoll has, oh wow.

Georgette (15:50):
So I wouldn't have expected that.
I really would have thoughtthat it was like.
this is what I'm aware of.
Let me see what the doll hasThat's so interesting.
Isn't that a trip?
I'm like following the doll.

Cassie Jenkins (16:01):
So I'll say, okay, i'm feeling like animal
print, okay, what do I have?
that's animal print.
So I don't know if you saw one.
I did.
I wrapped my daughter's animalprint headband.
You know this cute littlefabric headband that kids wear.
I wrapped that around her.
I knew I had an animal printhead.
So then I said okay, let me seeif I have an animal print
headband.
And then the way I wrapped it,i put it around her head.

(16:24):
So then I found an animal printpillowcase at the thrift store,
so then I made a funny reelthat was like behind the scenes
of that.

Georgette (16:34):
That's awesome.

Cassie Jenkins (16:36):
And then I showed that myself putting a
pillow in the pillowcase.

Georgette (16:40):
That is awesome.
I love the one you had when youwere showing like all the
little drawers.
like you know, every time youwanted something you went into a
little box and I was like oh mygosh, she's like so organized
right now, like every little boxhad like all the purses, all
the shoes, all the.
I was like this is so cool, ilove it.

Cassie Jenkins (16:56):
I'm a work in progress.
I'll be organized one minuteand the next minute I'm like
where's my?
so I do.
I do try to get those littledrawers of things, but yeah, i
have so much fun I do.
another thing on my list is tomake.
I've made a couple of things,but it's been quick things that
I've just kind of, you know,hands-on, really quick.

(17:16):
but I do want to make some moreoutfits for Minnie and I that I
make with my hands, yeah, thatI sell.

Georgette (17:23):
That's too cute.
I cannot.
I cannot with the little Minnieand I.
It's so adorable, oh mygoodness.
So you also do unboxing, so youknow, i know that's gained like
immense popularity in the dogcollecting community.
So I guess my thing is what doyou find most exciting about
that And how do you get thedolls that you unbox?

(17:43):
Do you contact other dogartists or just dolls that you
particularly buy to?
you know to do unboxings andstuff.

Cassie Jenkins (17:49):
Yeah, so a couple of brands which has been
great this year have.
It was my first time gettingwell now, maybe last year too
that a couple of dolls, otherones I'm just purchasing and
it's kind of user generatedcontent.
It's what I want to share withthe community And I like that
feeling.
I think of what do I like whenI watch an unboxing, whether
it's on YouTube or all the otherplatforms, and I like the

(18:13):
suspense and the excitement AndI like the feeling of joy that I
see on the like right, thecontent creator, as they're
opening.
I'm waiting and I'm like whatare you know?
and I know a lot of creators orsome are starting to do more
ASMR.
My daughters like to do likethe little nail tapping and
things like that.
So I'm always thinking aboutwhat am I excited about, what

(18:35):
can I show and share And so I doI have some dolls just that
I've purchased or my husbandpurchased as a gift, even for my
birthday a couple of months agothat I'm still or last month,
but I'm still waiting And I waslike I want to open it.
But then another truth momentYou bring out, do you bring out
the truth of people?
huh, i would say, is the beingcareful not to be a

(19:00):
perfectionist.
And so it's this back and forthof just do it, but then also I
also want to continue to putquality content out there,
because that's who I am, so Ihave to.
Sometimes it's a fine linebetween waiting too long to post
something because you want itto just be right, and then also

(19:21):
the times where I've just donesomething real quick, where I
don't have any makeup on.

Georgette (19:24):
I'm just wearing a hoodie That gets those right.

Cassie Jenkins (19:28):
That resonates with people too Cause she looks
like she just woke up and it'slike, yeah, i did and like just
went for it because I had it.
So I'm I think that's somethingthat I want to continue to work
on is being you, you know, butalso growing.
You've been having that in abox for like a few months Go
ahead like show the world, andif you're not ready yet, that's

(19:50):
okay but don't let it be,because you're trying to make it
, you know just perfect.

Georgette (19:54):
So I do, I do go back.

Cassie Jenkins (19:55):
I've got my husband's, Sterling's voice in
my mind.
It's just like just put it outthere, go for it.

Georgette (20:00):
So just do it, just be you.
And I think that's really coolabout, like you were saying,
that sometimes you know you'remade up, sometimes you just have
a hoodie on your life.
Because I think a lot of timeswhen, when we do show up like
that, it allows other people tosay, well, i can show up like
that Again, taking that awayfrom like, oh my gosh, always
have to look this way or alwayshave to be this way.

(20:21):
No, you just that's justanother facet of you, you know.
So it allows other people to say, well, you know what, that's
who I am, and I want to showthat you know, So I think that's
a great opportunity, you know,to be able to share that with
other people so that they cansee, yeah, you know, it's just
about being you And it's just,and all the things that happen

(20:42):
are just other facets of who youare.
So it's all pretty cool.
So I know you're a mom, youhave a retail job I mean your
corporate job, you do all ofthese things.
So how do you balance your timebetween you know, doll,
collecting, creating content andother aspects of your life?
Because I think a lot of timeswhen people see these things,
they think, oh, it just happens.

(21:02):
It doesn't just happen.
It's a lot of preparation forthat, And so, yeah, just share
with us how do you balance that,And maybe, if you have some
tips on how you do that, that'dbe helpful.
Yes, it's a struggle.
It really is a struggle.

Cassie Jenkins (21:14):
So what The struggle is real.

Georgette (21:16):
That's the theme, huh.

Cassie Jenkins (21:18):
So what I'm working on doing is I just got
an iPad because I was doing alot of stuff on my just on my
phone, ok, and sometimes stuffon my laptop And then my
sister-in-law, who createscontent, was like you need an
iPad, i can't believe you'redoing all these things.
And I just kept.
I had one back in the day Andthen I was like no, i'm OK.
The kids kind of they took itand started using it And so I

(21:42):
said OK, i want to start fresh.
And so I've just startedcreating a content calendar,
which has just been great.
So it's kind of a brain dump ofideas.
Maybe there's music that comesto mind, because it will take me
a long time.
Sometimes I can edit prettyquickly, but the music I want to
have the right sound.
So I just started putting myideas there.
I also started adding It's justsomething I do on Google Docs

(22:05):
so that I can use it on my phone.
I can also use it on my laptopif I want, and then I also have
maybe there's community events.
There's some great folks in thedoc community that keep
calendars for us of the upcomingevents.
So I'm like, OK, and I can'tparticipate.
I want to participate ineverything.
I just don't always have thetime.
So I try to think about OK,what can I do?

(22:25):
That hashtag is coming up butthat event is coming up, and so
I tried to batch content on theweekends or in the evenings.
So what that means is justmaybe I've gotten an idea for
two reels and two photo shoots.
I can do them.
in one day I might change myclothes, my jewelry, my hair so
that it looks like I did itdifferent times.
I did that a couple of weekswith some reels and it was so

(22:47):
much fun.
And the girls are like why areyou changing?
And I said I wanted to looklike it's a different day.
So they laugh.
They said, oh, i've been.
a lot of people will do that.
And then sometimes, maybe Idon't, maybe it's the same thing
I have on.
that's OK too.
So I started to do that becauseI will save a lot of sounds or
ideas in Instagram and then theyget lost.

(23:08):
I'm not doing anything withthem.
So for me, and sometimes I justgo old school analog I also have
a little notebook that I'lljust write ideas in, but at
least with digital, I can copyand paste things over as I see
them in real time.

Georgette (23:22):
It makes it easier, it really does.

Cassie Jenkins (23:25):
So that's what I'm doing, And then just have
those boundaries wheneverAnother true serum moment,
Another my daughter, you know, acouple weeks ago was like you
know, you're on your phone, youknow.
Oh yeah, kids will tell youthat They will.

Georgette (23:42):
And then there's that oh my gosh, That's so harsh
, That's it okay.

Cassie Jenkins (23:48):
Yeah, And then we just played outside, took a
walk, So I want to make theyknow I love that they see mommy
doing something that she reallyenjoys.
I also want to see them seeingmommy have boundaries.

Georgette (24:01):
Yes, exactly Yes, and so, okay, i'll do this for
an hour and then we're going toplay.

Cassie Jenkins (24:06):
So but I do, i do enjoy it, and it's a good
reprieve from the things that Ido day to day, whether I'm, like
, steeped in Excel spreadsheets,it's a nice way for me at the
end of the day, when I shut down.
I do reels like that sometimes.
Okay, i'm shutting down and I'mmaking time to play, so I think
it's an ongoing balance.

Georgette (24:27):
Yeah, it is, and then you're balancing,
especially, you know, whenyou're a parent I'm not just
going to say mom, because I meandads are, you know, parents too
, we know that But when you're aparent and you are doing things
that you really like, sometimestimes can get away from you,
and so you know, i mean it is.
I think it's important though,and I think that's pretty cool,
that you know that your childsays hey, what about me?

(24:47):
Or hey, you're spending toomuch time, because sometimes we
don't realize that that happens,and kudos for her for saying
that to you, because you know itjust allows you then to stop
and think, oh, okay, i need tospend more time here.
It's great for me to do what itis that I do, but they need that
time as well.
So I think that's pretty neat,But yeah you're definitely so.

(25:09):
You did say you use a contentcalendar.
I do.

Cassie Jenkins (25:13):
So that's really helpful, okay so, so that's
really helpful.
Content calendar I would saybatching.
Maybe if I know I have a busyweek coming up where I'm
traveling for my job, i can dosome things ahead of time.
Maybe I'm doing, you know, acarousel of images, okay, and
I'm gonna do a video, but Iwanna do behind the scenes, so I
at least have in mind how do Ialso wanna link up, when I'm

(25:36):
putting on my feed, to mystories, cause I have a lot of
fun in the stories too.
So people I like to take, ilike to take people along with
me kind of behind the scenes oreven like funny moments.
Maybe my doll fell while I wasfilming, so that kind of brings
that human Yeah.
Yeah, that's true, it's fun toshow too.

Georgette (26:01):
So what's been the most unexpected thing or
surprising, i guess, thing aboutbeing a doll collector and
content creator that surprisedyou?
Because sometimes you knowyou're not in the doll space.
You know, when you go into thedoll space, i think of a lot of
things that you think, oh, it'sthis way.
And then when you get into ityou're like, oh, it's not that
way, this is something totallydifferent, like you know.

(26:22):
Or you don't think, oh, i'mjust gonna do this little video.
And then all of a sudden it'slike everybody is watching it,
like, so what surprised you andwas unexpected about being a
doll collector and a content?

Cassie Jenkins (26:34):
creator.
Yes, i think the building ofthe community and what
collectors, content creators canrelate to, that's been fun.
Like the goofiest things I'vekind of put out there have
sometimes resonated the most.
And so I just say you know what?
I'm just gonna be me and put itout there.
And I love the comments whenpeople are kind of sharing like

(26:56):
I can relate, or a funny storyAnd even sometimes some of the
touching moments if someoneshares like oh, maybe one of my
parents or someone in my lifegave all my dolls away because
they said I was getting too oldto play with them, you know so
things like that.
So I do remember real quick inhigh school I was probably yeah,

(27:17):
17.
And I had my vintage BarbieDream House, that A-frame house,
the orange and yellow one inthe garage And I would just play
.
That would be my quiet cornerand I would play.
And my mom's boyfriend at thetime was over at the house and I
heard him say isn't she too old?
It's time to give those dollsaway, she's too old to play.
And my mom I couldn't see her,but I could imagine like her

(27:40):
neck was rolling as she talkedto him And she said my daughter
loves that Like leave her alone.
That's her thing.
We all should have somethingthat we enjoy doing Yeah, that's
the truth And I love.
I was like I love my mom forthat, so I knew when I went off
to college I was like she'sgonna keep my dolls in good care
, and she sure did for me.

(28:01):
So, building up the community,sparking joy, i think that's.
I like to do that reallywherever I go is just to make
someone stay a little bitbrighter, and I can do that
through twinning or relatablevideo or something silly.
You know, i'm happy to do that.

Georgette (28:17):
That's pretty cool.
Yeah, i mean, i really do justlove your show.
I think it's just so.
It's like.
You know what it's like.
This is funny.
It's like a doll variety show.

Cassie Jenkins (28:27):
It's like you know, because you have so many
different little elements thatbring everything together.

Georgette (28:35):
You know, it's just not one thing.
It's just not like oh, I'm justdoing unboxing videos or I'm
just doing a dive.
There's so many thingshappening within that, within
what you do, So I do love that.

Cassie Jenkins (28:46):
Yes.

Georgette (28:47):
So let me ask you during the doll community, have
you been to doll shows and haveyou connected with other doll
people in the community andcollaborated with them in any
way?

Cassie Jenkins (28:59):
Yeah, so that's been great too.
So I work from home And sothere's a lot of benefits to it,
especially being a parent, theflexibility.
but it can be isolating attimes too, where I literally am
just talking to the dolls, likein my room.
So what I appreciate is thepeople.

Georgette (29:17):
Cassie and her dolls .
Right Cassie and her dolls.

Cassie Jenkins (29:21):
I get nervous if they talk back, but they don't.
But so a few people in thecommunity reached out to me over
the past couple of years likelet's meet up.
They're here in SouthernCalifornia, so I've been able to
if it's going out to lunch ordoing a photo shoot, and that's
been another.
That's actually been a surprise.
To answer your earlier question, that in-person community too,

(29:42):
right, there's a virtual, butthen there's also that.
Yes, that is wonderful, andthen I look forward to seeing
them, like at Sherry's Doll Showthat's in Orange County a few
times a year.
That's coming up this month, sothat's a great way.
I did go to the Barbieconvention.
No, that's happening right nowin Florida.
I did not going this year, hadsome other commitments, but went
last year in Chicago and hopeto go next year.

(30:04):
I believe it's gonna be in PalmSprings, so that's, it's like a
reunion.
When you see people you know,it's just like the hugs and the
laughter and the lightness Oh,what are you?
what are you here for?
Are you looking for aparticular product?
And so there's that, thebuilding of community, which I
think is so important,especially coming out of the

(30:24):
pandemic.

Georgette (30:25):
Yeah, i remember when I had to go to New York.
My mom wasn't feeling too good.
She has passed away since then,but I had to go to New York to
help take care of her And I gotan opportunity to meet Mel Oda.
I mean, i had been wanting tomeet him forever, you know,
being in the doll community, andsince he had been on the show

(30:46):
we have been contacting back andforth And I knew he lived in
the city And I was like and I'mthinking myself, oh my gosh, can
I say hey, can I?
you know, can we meet up?
you know, and he was so nice, imean, he was like sure we had
lunch together.
You know, i got to meet, ithink, mike Beuse, i think he
does Fabiola And again, like youwere saying, just being in a

(31:08):
doll community and getting tomeet those people that create
these dolls or are in that space, i think it's just so, it's so
fulfilling.
It's kind of like you know youhave something in common.
You want to connect withsomebody that understands what
you're, you know what you're,what you're about, you know, so.
So that's great.
I'm glad you got an opportunityto do that and that you do go

(31:31):
to Expose and shows, because I'msure that that helps you in
creating other things when youcome back home as well.
It does it does.

Cassie Jenkins (31:39):
It's kind of like oh, look what I got you
know, and it's kind of a way totake people along with you.

Georgette (31:45):
Yeah, yeah, that's true, so that's a fun way.

Cassie Jenkins (31:47):
That connection, yeah, that's true, so yeah
great to know.

Georgette (31:51):
So what do you plan on like?
how are you planning onexpanding your show?
I really like to know a littlebit more about what you plan on
doing.
I love that you call it Yes.

Cassie Jenkins (32:02):
I love that you call it a show, because it feels
like that You're right, likedifferent elements.
I really that resonates.
So I would like to.
I'm gonna put it from, i'll putit out there.
I would like to and I'vestarted before and I haven't
finished creating it, but Iwould like to do YouTube.
I literally was just talking tosomeone yesterday about it.

(32:23):
I think I need to figure outthe time and how I can do that
but, i, really would like toconnect in that way, i feel like
, okay, i've got the creationdown.
I used to have a YouTube channelbefore for fashion.
Okay, so at some point I wouldlike to kind of push the button
on that, and even you reachingout to me and I was watching

(32:44):
some of your shows, i'll take apause real quick and tell you
too, the joy that and the lovethat you have is palpable, and I
really enjoy your show watchingand listening.
I'll talk to you, i'll play itwhile I'm working, and so that's
encouraging that you're walkingin.
You said, hey, that's somethingI like to do.

(33:06):
Let me go ahead and expressmyself in that way So that, even
seeing that, that's anencouragement and motivation for
me.
So I would say that's the nextpiece of what I would like to do
, and continue to create contentfor various dolls.
As I mentioned, i do appreciatethe people of color and it's

(33:26):
wonderful to see dolls who looklike you, but I'm also open to
all the different dolls and allthe varieties that they come in.
So many options.
I want to continue to learnmore and support So yeah.

Georgette (33:44):
That's so cool.
Well, thank you so much.
I really appreciate that.

Cassie Jenkins (33:47):
It's a beautiful conversation.

Georgette (33:48):
I really do love what I do And it's so funny And
I mean, like everybody we do, wehave all different facets of
our business And I do a lot ofother different things And
everybody will say to me so whatare you going to do with that
doll show Like, what are yougoing to do?
You know, because they and I'mlike, well, we're going to keep
going.
I don't think there's still somany people to talk to and so
many opportunities to share yourstories with other people.

(34:10):
And that's what I love about it, because I think people don't.
When I say I have a doll show,they're like, oh but.
And when I say, hey, you needto need to see this show, you
need to see this person, youneed to find out about what they
, they're just surprised at the,the vastness of the doll
community and the people who arein there.
You know, and and I'm so happythat you're part of that, you

(34:33):
know I'm so happy I get to seeyour shows and your, just your
beautiful light that you, thatyou know, that you share with
everybody, and the happinessthat you bring because, because
you're happy doing what it isthat you do, and so I'm going to
thank you for that too.
Because you are, you have agreat.
I love, i just really I lovewatching you, i love your show
And I just love what you bringto the table in the doll

(34:54):
community.
So thank you for that.

Cassie Jenkins (34:56):
Appreciate that, appreciate that.
Yes, i'm so glad there was atime where I did feel like, oh,
that's just for kids, i don'twant to do it.
And then my mom, every every somany years, she would say I
still have your dolls, i stillhave your stuff, i'm waiting for
you.

Georgette (35:10):
So yes, Yeah, she kept them for 20 years, right?
So yeah, i was reading the bodyand I was like wow, that's a
long time, i mean, and the factthat she gave them back to you
and that you had opportunity tojust live that all over again
you know, and that's what youexpressed with us, so that's so
cool.

Cassie Jenkins (35:28):
Yes, absolutely, i love it.
I absolutely love it.

Georgette (35:31):
So I you're going to be expanding, you want to go to
YouTube.
That is wonderful.
Do you think that you're goingto put another element into your
show Or you're just going toleave it like where it's at?
we're just the di-Ramas and youknow the twinning and the flesh
.

Cassie Jenkins (35:43):
Yeah, I'm still kind of thinking through that.
I think it would be nice tohave another layer, And I was on
TikTok a couple of years ago,then I got off and then I got
back on and that's, that's slowmoving, but that's okay.
So I am trying to figure out.
should I have somethingslightly different for each?

Georgette (36:01):
thing, Oh yeah.

Cassie Jenkins (36:03):
Or do I have some of the same?
I like that kind of throughline of the joy and happiness
and then elements of thetwinning.
So I need to brainstorm somemore about that.
I would like to do like littlemini episodes or something, but
again balance, balance time, somaybe not right now.

(36:25):
Right, so I need to prioritize.
So maybe it is kind ofrepurposing what I have And then
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Georgette (36:36):
I think so too, because I think once you get on
the YouTube community I meanwhatever you have there's people
in YouTube community and theydon't know, don't know about you
either So you can alwaysrepurpose what you do.
You know what I mean.

Cassie Jenkins (36:48):
Just to get people interested.

Georgette (36:50):
You know.
So yeah, and then kind of bebald Yeah for sure.

Cassie Jenkins (36:53):
Thanks for that.
I like that tip.

Georgette (36:56):
Oh you're so welcome , You're so welcome, So I'm
going to show my question.
I know this is kind of likesaying like who's your favorite
child?
Because we know they're allfavorites, right So.
but what, which element do youlike best?
or you know, out of all theelements that you do within your
show, Is there one that standsout more, you have more fun with
, or they're all kind of equal.

Cassie Jenkins (37:17):
Yeah, i think the twinning would have to be
one of the highlights, becauseit's just fun.
And it's silly, like if Isometimes I'll repost on my
other account where I have, likeyou know, friends from college,
a couple co-workers, likefamily, all that, and they're
like girl like it, but it makesthem laugh, like this is so

(37:38):
silly.
But then they'll send mearticles and things about Barbie
.
Some people have sent me dollsor maybe childhood things that
they played with, so, so cool.
I think there's a delight Andthat's probably why I think the
movie is probably going to theupcoming Barbie movies going to
do so well, there's nostalgiaattached to it whether you
played with Barbies, were intothem or not, right.

(38:00):
There's that you knew someonewho was exactly.
Saw them in the story and toysare us and KB stores and all the
other places.

Georgette (38:07):
So you know, even in , even a lot of times I'm sorry,
i mean even a lot of times whenyou couldn't afford a Barbie
and you had a dollar was still aBarbie for you.
So they still have thatreference.
You know that still, thatdesire to just want to see that

(38:29):
you know.

Cassie Jenkins (38:29):
it's so true.
People will call all fashiondolls Right.
Facial tissue they'll callclean it.

Georgette (38:36):
Exactly.

Cassie Jenkins (38:36):
Exactly, that is so true.
That's true, i would have tosay the twinning.
And the second to that would bewhen my family come, like when
I incorporate them into thevideos.

Georgette (38:47):
It's you know, yeah, yeah, i love that.
Well thank you.
Well, thank you so much, Cassie, for, you know, just spending
time with it, with me on In theDoll World.
It's been wonderful to meet you.
It's just been wonderful tofind out about your journey and
to see when you're going withthe you know dolls on the scene.
I think you doing great, Doingbeautiful work And again I just

(39:10):
want to thank you for being inthe documentary sharing that
with us.

Cassie Jenkins (39:14):
Yes, thank you so much And for your show and
highlighting so many wonderfulpeople in the community Really
appreciate it, thank, you,you're so welcome.

Georgette (39:26):
Okay, thank you, you have a beautiful day.
Thank you everybody for joiningme in the Doll World.
I'm so excited that you joinedme today.
Thank you again, cassie, forbeing on In the Doll World with
me, and if anybody wants tocheck us out, you can just go to
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Also, please leave a reviewthere, because it really helps
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It really helps to show andhelps other people who are

(39:48):
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leave a review for In the DollWorld.
Thank you, guys.
Again so much for being with us.
I will see you guys next week.
Thank you, cassie.
Bye, thank you, you're welcome.
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(40:09):
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