May 28, 2025 • 26 mins
We explore how fitness extends far beyond traditional gym workouts and how finding activities you genuinely enjoy is the key to building lasting healthy habits.
• Traditional gym workouts aren't the only path to fitness – try group sports, martial arts, dancing, or recreational activities
• Being physically active leads to feeling better, living longer, and improved quality of life
• As adults, we must deliberately create change in our lives rather than repeating the same routines
• Activities combining physical movement, skill acquisition, and social connection provide triple benefits
• Recreational activities often serve as gateways to more structured exercise and improved fitness
• Finding enjoyment in movement creates intrinsic motivation that makes consistency effortless
• Sport-specific training can enhance performance in activities you already enjoy
• Investment in health (whether time, money or effort) pays dividends across all areas of life
• Lowering barriers to entry is crucial – start with anything that gets you moving
• Rediscover the concept of play as an adult to make fitness sustainable and enjoyable
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Everyone wants to be successful, everyone wants to
have good relationships,everyone wants to be healthy,
but when it comes to the healthstuff, it's like meh.
Tomorrow we have to decide howwe create change in our life,
because change isn't just goingto happen to us.
You know, like we've alreadyfinished school, we've already
probably settled into our careerand guess what?
Like this is it now okay episode60 of in the grand scheme of
(00:34):
fitness with, uh, your host,justin scollard, and and ethan
walter.
So today, guys, to celebrateepisode 60, we're gonna do a
general overview of what fitnessmeans specifically to you as
the individual, because I thinkwe have this idea of fitness
it's like co-branded with gymsand heavy weights and like
running on a treadmill and likejust grinding and, to be honest,
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like that is a version of it,but it's not the only version.
So today we want to just talkabout different ways and
modalities that one can juststart through group sports,
weekend warrior kind of stuff.
Maybe you want to do a martialarts class, maybe you want to
get into like circus oracrobatics or hacky sack or yoga
, like there are so many ways tostart that don't involve like
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the traditional weight trainingthat we all kind of bench press,
yeah, associate with fitness,and so we just want to like just
explore those options, talkabout the values of them and
then maybe even using them as atripwire, so to speak, or as a
transition or a gateway toactually get in and do some
strength training, which, ofcourse, is a bench which, of
course, is all of our secretmotive.
(01:37):
All we want you to do is justeat protein and lift weights.
But to get you there, we might,uh, try to spellbound you with
the idea that you can doanything else.
But, all jokes aside, youactually can, right?
I mean, that's the whole pointof this episode.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Absolutely, I mean.
I think it just is to remindher that, like our best lives
are lived when we are physicallyactive.
It's just, there's no wayaround it.
You're going to feel better,you're going to live longer.
It's just the way to go and youknow the appeal of being in la
fitness, or 24-hour fitness, orbad you know, I don't know what
is a planet fitness, any type offitness any type of gym.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Any type of gym?
Speaker 2 (02:13):
yeah, it just might not be that appealing, and, and
so I think sure isn't for me,that's for I.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
I literally I walked into tanya ghost equinox, big
global gym, it sounds fancytrust me, it's, it's really not,
it's just normal.
Like it's more expensive, it'sthe same shit, like it really is
.
But point is is it's a big meatmarket, it's just a warehouse.
You walk in and it's just like,oh my God, yeah, especially if
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you go in like after hours,after work.
And for me mean, I love liftingweights, I just I just have a
little squat rack and somedumbbells at home, but like that
, that's that works for me, butlike oh, anyway.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
So point is is that it doesn't need to be that, yeah
, I think it's just get yourbody moving in some way, yeah,
and in the end, like, beingconsistent is, as we've said
many times, the most importantthing to actually get the
physiological benefits.
And I think the the idea islike that there are many ways to
do it and I think, when you arehaving fun, when there's
recreation or play involved, aswe were just talking about
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beforehand, um skill acquisition, it's amusing, it's it's it's
entertaining, it's engaging,it's engaging and I think if you
can find like a sport, amodality, an activity that
engages you and pulls you in, sothat you are simply just moving
and being physically active orgetting some type of fitness in
your life, then that's the mostimportant thing.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
And I also, like there's just so much benefit to
group sports of some kind like,or just really any, any like
recreation sports.
So, like we're all adults,we're all, we're all, everyone
listening.
This show is probably somewherebetween 25 and 50 years old.
You know, it's like we're justin it now.
We're just in this like thickof it of adulthood that we have
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to decide how we create changein our life.
Because, because change isn'tjust going to happen to us, you
know, like we've alreadyfinished school, we've already
probably settled into our careerand guess what?
Like this is it now?
And steady state, you know, andif we want to, um, you know,
introduce anything novel, likeit's, it's a choice we have to
make, and I think that that isthe trap is that we, we don't
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make that choice and we justkeep repeating the same day over
and over and over again, and Ithink that leads to depression.
It leads to some sort of, likeyou know, dementia of some kind
or brain, it's true.
No, no, no the repetitiveness ofthe same day, kind of lived
over and over again.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
It just kills our brain you know Absolutely,
you're not creating any neuralpathways or anything.
I mean, there's like this oldguy who's all about just like
skill acquisition, but justknickknack, paddywhackack, learn
something new and veryparticular and like as soon as
he acquires the skill he moveson.
So it's all this like just weirdthing, like I'll have like a
big coffee tin and like stand onone foot on like a balancing
block and like have a ball andthrow the ball into the coffee
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tin, and we could do that 10times, I'm you know, and it's
like he and he like does liketightrope walking and just all
these like odd, like almost likejuggling, just things that like
force the mind muscleconnection yeah, so his whole
thing is because he's old, he'sjust, like you know, basically
preventing his, his aging, asmuch as he can neurologically
and obviously physically too,but um, just he, just he got
addicted.
It's almost like he went soniche.
(05:16):
It's very particular and weird,but it's that exact thing where
it's just you know all theseconnections exactly.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
You have to just be acquiring that skill and I think
when you do tie in the mentaland physical, like so sitting
there and like playing chess orlearning an instrument or you
know whatever, like obviouslyimmense value in that.
But that's like brain healthand that's that's great little
little beyond our scope as faras this show is concerned.
But I mean, there's certainlyso much relative, there's so
much um, that's related to that.
(05:42):
Yeah, but when you tie in thephysical and the mental, so you
know, like I've I am officiallyobsessed with golf now and it's
not the most intense sport, butI'll tell you, you know, like
after you play 18 you're prettydrained and after you go hit 100
balls of the range like I brokea little sweat.
You know like it's.
But it's such a nuanced thingthat, whether it be, you know um
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, even even just likehacky-sacking or or even like
learning to juggle.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
I mean, to me it's like anything is going to be
better than nothing and if youget outside or even just moving
your arms like no, is jugglinggoing to be some intense workout
equivalent?
No, but at the same time, atleast you're moving.
Yeah, you know.
And in some cascade of anythingto get you moving, I think is
what it's about Totally.
You know, when we get addictedto something, it just pulls us
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in and next thing, you know, wewant more inherently.
And it's not this like battleof like I need to go to the gym
and I don't really want to,especially when you start seeing
improvement.
Yeah, you kind of get the itchto, especially when you start
seeing improvement.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Yeah, you kind of get the itch, yeah, and I think
that, like with with exercise, aclassic exercise, weight
training or boot camps, whatever, like you can kind of do that
forever and just always, justfeel like shit and really never
notice a big change in your bodyyou know, or just always are
healthier.
Yeah, well, but like you're notseeing the, the change where I
think, when you if, if you havelike a natural allergy to like
going to a gym or training inthat kind of classic way, giving
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yourself permission to join asoccer team or play some tennis
with your friends or, you know,play some volleyball, go join an
adult volleyball league, likelevel one for beginners what
you're doing essentially is likeyou're kind of checking the
health box, like we alreadytalked about, but like you get
good, quick, no-transcript, aperfect drive that you were
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slicing a month ago and you'relike, ooh, I'm onto something
now and you want to do more andmore and more of it.
It kind of gets you on the trailand I think there's a lot of
power in that and if that's thegateway that just gets you
moving, the win-win is you getall the brain health stuff.
You're acquiring a skill, yourbrain's getting hit with
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dopamine and serotonin andyou're acquiring a skill and
you're learning and you'reforging these new networks but
then also getting out and movingyour body, which of course we
know is the best thing you cando for everything.
Basically.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Just for everything, yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
So yeah, I'm a big, big fan of that.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Yeah, and there's a little plunge, I think, or a
little leap of faith into tryingsomething new.
But I think that's also whatmakes life interesting.
I mean I love that you broughtup partner dancing.
I mean there's so many thingsyou can do and there's also solo
activities, like even if youjust were to get a bike and go
ride around on the street, youknow you're still getting
outside getting your heart rateup.
You know it's just going to beso good for you to just get some
type of hobby or activity inyour life that gets you moving
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and I think just you know itkind of goes back.
It's like always about, likeyou know, there's this degree of
personal responsibility, right,you have to take on some
personal responsibility in orderto take that next level of
evolution in your life.
So, whether it's counting yourcalories or doing, you know,
hand measurements for food, foryour composition.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Wearing yourself every morning.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Yeah, there's something you have to take on up
every morning.
Yeah, there's something youhave to take on and I think
there's a degree of also apersonal responsibility of
enriching, enriching your lifewith activities and doing
something fresh and doingsomething new.
And even if you find somethingthat's your primary passion,
that you do forever, so be it.
Where you keep willing to, tokind of put yourself out there a
little bit and try somethingnew, whether it's a solo
(09:15):
activity, whether it's a groupactivity, totally you know.
I think it's just life's goingto be so much better you know
also too.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Now that I'm thinking about this, I'm listening to
you talk and I'm like, okay,this is.
I think I'm going to go out ona limb here and say that, like
as an adult, some sort of likegroup sport or you know whatever
, maybe it's not a sport in theclassical sense, but maybe like
dance, whatever.
It checks all the major boxes.
Number one you get the physicalstuff done.
(09:42):
So that's important.
You need to take a salsa class,you.
You meet, you meet up with the,your normal buddies, and play
18.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
You go play pickup basketball, whatever name your
thing pickleball of pickleball,yeah, yeah, yeah, let us not
forget pickleball yeah,volleyball, yeah, all these good
things, right.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
So that checks the physical box, which you know is
important.
But then like, because it is askill now.
Now there's the mental aspectof it, where your brain's going
to work, learning this skill,and you're like processing that.
What did it go wrong?
What could I do better?
You're on youtube watching,like how do I get better at this
thing?
And you're learning.
You're learning now.
But then also the third one isthe community aspect.
You know the social element ofit where it's just so important
(10:22):
as adults, because we all knowit's hard to make friends.
As we get older, right, we tendto get solid off, especially
young men.
I mean, tanya's a genius atmaking friends.
She has.
I bet you there's at least 30people who think tanya's her
best friend right right, that'shilarious, like she's so good
and I have, I, I don't, I meanI'm, I'm, but I'm also more okay
(10:45):
with it than she is.
But anyways, point is, is thatlike especially for young men,
but for women too, I'm sure likeyou go and just join like a
beginner's volleyball class orleague and all of a sudden
you're like on a team of six ofthe strangers?
Speaker 2 (10:59):
guess what?
Speaker 1 (11:00):
within like three weeks?
You're high-fiving, you'regrabbing a beer afterwards,
you're hey, you want to meet upon saturday and practice?
Yeah, you got a little whatsappgroup going.
It's like that is purely ofyour own creation, and so you
get the fitness of runningaround and trying something new
and getting challenged and beingcomfortable.
You get the mental stuff oflearning skill.
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Then you get the social andcommunity thing where, where
you've now even if they're notlike best friends necessarily,
but like it's a group that youget to like go hang with and
like laugh and like do thingswith, and that's massive
absolutely, especially if youlive in an urban area.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
There's everything you know.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
So, even if it's a solo activity like juggling.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
There are juggling meetups and flow arts meetups,
and even if it's not necessarilya team sport or partner dancing
, even if it's something thatyou could do alone in your
living room, there is still asocial component that's
available.
You know we're like, oh, trythis move, or just, you know,
keep your palm.
You know it's, it's, it's,there's a lot, there's a lot out
there, and I think life willjust be much more rewarding when
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we start to engage withsomething Totally, be willing to
try Totally.
And then I think you know it'slike, because obviously you have
to resist and strain, otherwise, otherwise why are you
listening to this fucking show?
You're a failure.
No, but I do think that, likeyou know, taking it up a notch
is that concerted exercise insome form.
In some form, some way, whetherit's a boot camp or HIIT or
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bodybuilding or powerliftinglifting that I do think training
and exercise specifically is oftremendous value.
even more so and even if it'sjust for longevity and fighting
off metabolic diseases and justagain, quality of life is going
to go up the more fit you are.
And I think that what canhappen is sometimes you get into
these things and maybe younotice that you get winded
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really quickly or that you knowyour shoulders giving out.
You got no power.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
You got no power.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
when you're trying to jump, you're trying to catch a
wave and you just your shouldersare so burned that you can't
get into the crest, you know,and things like that.
And so then maybe all of asudden, you're just like, oh,
now that I'm living a moreactive lifestyle, let's say
because I won't necessarily saythat these things we're naming
are exercise per se, dependingon what you choose, maybe you
might be like you know what Iwant?
To be more fit.
(13:08):
I want to be better at this.
The way to do that is going tojust be more fit.
I'm becoming more aware of mybody.
Body, oh, the more I move, thebetter I feel.
Right, oh, wait a second.
Totally it'd be worth it to goout on a jog, or maybe it'd be
worth it to put on a yoga classon youtube and do some yoga in
my living room or do a littlebody weight workout so, in other
words, it can just be a gateway, like and like we were, talking
(13:29):
about is like so maybe likeit's like the devil's lettuce
Speaker 1 (13:34):
devil's lettuce you know what I mean but maybe it's
like the the first thing thatyou think of when you need to
get healthy and fit is not goingto the gym, but maybe like well
, I did play this sport in highschool and I always liked it, so
maybe I'd like to get back atthat wonderful.
But then I think what you'resaying is like you do that for a
minute and you realize there'sdeficiencies.
(13:54):
Now, yeah, it's like whoa,everything hurts, you know,
let's just use like any example,like, uh, jiu-jitsu right, so
I've been doing jiu-jitsurecently.
It's like, or volleyball right.
It's like, we'll use theexamples that I do.
Yeah, well, I mean, I gottaspeak to what I know but, but it
.
But it translates to everything.
Maybe you're basketball ortennis or whatever, but it's
like you know, if you do thething and you start the you know
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beginner league and you go andyou're like man, I get, like you
say, I get gas.
My legs are just like deadwobbly and I just cannot, even,
like hardly, hold myself up.
Well, then you're thinking likeokay, maybe like doing a few
sets of lunges each week, youknow or or maybe all right, I'm
gonna do three sets of 10 gobletsquats just to improve my
jumping or whatever the casemight be whatever it is, hold
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myself in a plank, a plankposition or like oh wow, I'm
extra tight.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Maybe I'll actually sit and stretch for a little
while.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
And then, next thing you know, now it's like you're
using strength training like anathlete would to serve your
sport right To serve a purpose,so maybe the strength training
in and of itself isn't enough ofa motivator.
But like you really love yoursport, your community now, and
like it's of interest to you toimprove.
So the best way to improve nowis to like improve your strength
.
And so now, all of a sudden,we've used that to like a little
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bit of a gateway and, you know,a 10 to 20 minute routine a
couple times a week.
Yeah, might not seem sointimidating, or yeah, because I
can't.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
I mean because it is always going to come back to us
encouraging you all to get sometype of exercise going well that
you know.
It'd be weird if we stopped itwould be weird if we didn't, you
know.
But and it's just, and I thinkit is, and then, and then the
ball.
You just gain momentum.
Then all of a sudden, you're aphysically active person, you're
you're a health consciousperson, and then, all of a
sudden, maybe you will start towatch what you eat, because next
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you know you're counting yourmacros.
You're a little heavy on thecourt or you know you're going
up a hill on a bike is like fuck, this is hard, I don't want
this.
I want to be able to look upthis hill.
It's nice up there, you know.
It's a good view.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
I don't want this to be so hard exactly, and so you
know, it's like finding whatjust gets that initial spark of
interest going and givingyourself 100% permission to just
try it and like there's, andlike adulting is honestly just
forcing the reality that youwant for yourself to happen,
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because otherwise it's just not.
You know, it's just not goingto fucking happen, or you know,
and it's like we have to reallytry to create the life that we
want for ourselves, and most ofus tend to rank being healthy
and the top three things thatare most important to us, yet
it's the one thing that we tendto devote the least amount of
time towards achieving.
Everyone wants to be successful, everyone wants to have good
(16:29):
relationships, everyone wants tobe healthy, but when it comes
to the health stuff, it's liketomorrow, yeah you know.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
But it's so crazy because everything else goes to
shit.
If you're not healthy, I don'tcare what kind of career you
have.
I don't care what kind of greatfamily structure you have, or
you know, it's like if you'resickly.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
You only want one thing in life to be healthy, and
that's to be healthy.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Yeah, so it's it's one of those things that, no
matter what it takes to just getsome engagement going, and it's
even with, like personaltraining I mean, I have so many
of my clients and I knowpersonal training can be
expensive and not everybody canafford that but at the same time
it's like I have many clientsthat just know that they won't
do it unless they make some typeof commitment.
And just now, because theychoose to train, it's like
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they're smart enough, they got agood head on their shoulders
and they're like I know I needto do this.
I don't really want to do it,so I'm going to make myself do
it by paying for it and havingan appointment and have somebody
that I have to show up to andlook in the eye.
And then it's amazing becausethen I think most of the time I
find my clients, some people arejust allergic to exercise, and
that's understandable and theydo it anyway.
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But I often find that they lookforward to the sessions and it's
like they always feel, even ifit's arduous and grinding and
hard, they always feel.
Even if it's arduous andgrinding and hard, they always
feel better afterwards.
And I think you can also.
I think there.
You know, for me.
I try to make the sessionsinteresting.
There's so many ways to moveand do stuff Like I trained this
one couple and we do animalflow, and so animal flow is just
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a kind of a coined term forbody movements.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
It's not where you put the mask on and turn the
lights off.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Yeah, kind of like a furry, yeah, but with movement,
like pin the tail on the donkey,kind of thing but it is so much
fun and you know so it'sbasically just human movement
patterns that are often done onthe floor.
Yeah, animal flow is like acoin term with a certain
vocabulary, but the movementworld is a whole thing.
But you know, even just theother day we were playing a game
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of add-on where it's like,basically one person doesn't
move and this is can be donewith many modalities and then
the second person does that moveand then adds a move to it, and
then the other person goes backand does those two moves and
adds a move and so it's likethis little gamification.
But you're doing all these.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
You know, you're kind of being creative, you're
moving your body, you'restretching and being active and
you know, it's tons of fun andthey love it and all of a sudden
, like the time melts away, yeahand obviously we did a bunch of
strength training and bulgariansplit squats that were arduous,
yeah, just afterwards.
But but you got him in the zone.
It was like the warm-up, butalso get him in the zone and
also get in their mind yeah, andit's so it's.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
I think there's just you'd be surprised that once,
and it's like once you get intothings, I think the reward
starts to show itself and Ithink you know.
So it's like you know it's.
We're kind of like how do youget the foot in the door?
How do you get a toe?
Speaker 1 (18:58):
in the door.
How do?
you just get a little breezegoing, so to get into the gale
force wins because I thinkthat's what keeps people from
starting, is that in their mind,they have this idea of what it
takes.
Yeah right, oh well, if I can'tget to the gym for an hour,
then like I got, or I'm gonnawait until I can get to the gym
for an hour, and then a yeargoes by and it's like still
waiting.
It's like, well, yeah, I mean,I get, you know, I got kids.
(19:19):
I gotta we're gonna work tillsix.
I gotta drive 20 minutes to thegym.
I gotta work out for an hour.
I gotta park youtube's thereyeah, it's like or or you just
drop down and give me 20, youknow, and like, let that just
start.
Like, but, like you know,lowering the barrier of entry is
what we're talking about.
Right, and like to your point,I just want to say real quick,
(19:41):
with the clients and it beingexpensive and stuff, but it's
like, yeah, I get it, it'sexpensive, like to have a
trainer.
You know it ain't cheap to havelike an accountability
nutrition coach or trainer.
But the thing is, is that that,like, no one will think twice
about going out and spending 500to a thousand bucks a month on
a car?
Yeah, and that's just thepayment.
(20:01):
And then you got the insurance,you got the gas.
I mean, you know it's probablycosting at least a thousand
bucks a month to just own a carthat, like, for the 99 of the
time, just sits in your driveway, but it's like no one.
And when we think of fitness,it's like, well, a boot camp's
cheap.
It's like, well, a boot camp'scheap.
It's like, okay, well, do youlike going to a boot camp?
No, right, well then, who careswhat it costs?
You're not going to go.
But if you did invest $100 or$200, depending, you know, if
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you live in a smaller city inthe Midwest, maybe it's $50.
If you live in a big major city, maybe it's closer to $200 for
a trainer.
But you but you're probablymaking more if you live in a big
city.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
So it balances out, yeah, but like, yeah, so what?
Speaker 1 (20:42):
so that's maybe what 800 000 bucks a month that's a
lot of money, but it's yourhealth, yeah, and, like we said
earlier, insurmountable.
Like to have thataccountability, to have that
like.
You know, that person in yourcorner that that you can, you
know, talk about your life withand your nutrition with and your
fitness with, and they can helpyou think of other ways to just
move your body.
Going for walks like thinkcreatively, I mean, does that
not improve your productivity?
Will that not make you, uh,less depressed and more more
(21:06):
likely to like be adventurousand maybe ask for a bigger
promotion or try a new careerout?
or ask somebody out, yeah asksomebody out, find a potential
partner, because you're, youknow you're, you're feeling
better about yourself, likethere's so much intangible
benefit to investing in yourfitness and that's like that's
relative.
It could that that might mean a.
A ten dollar app to somebodymight be a big deal, or that
(21:29):
might mean a you know, athousand dollars a month in a
trainer for the next person.
But like, whatever that is,that is, this is your health
we're talking about and lowerthe barrier of entry, bite the
bullet, get uncomfortable, likesign up for a sports team, go
ride your bike, like, whateverit takes to just get out of the
inertia of not doing anything.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Yeah, is really the big takeaway, I think absolutely
and I think you know, becauseit's like again, it's like you
might notice that your shoulderhurts from again, like surfing,
and so now it's like you got togo into the gym and learn, or
learn a rehabilitation or justget stronger.
Like, yeah, okay, like I'm weakon the board, so if I start
doing some push-ups and somebody weight rows or something,
you're out, you're inevitablygoing to just doing it translate
(22:11):
to your sport.
It's just going to translate andyou know it's funny even that
in that same couple I trained,one of them just started playing
pickleball.
Of course, of course I mean,pickleball is fun but, you know,
he's, he's totally gettingaddicted, he's playing and he's
playing for hours.
And you know, obviously he'sthat much better off because of
all the training he's been doing.
And now he's even being moreactive, you know so obviously he
(22:31):
trains they train twice a weekwith me but now he's being even
more active, he's, he's adoptingthat active lifestyle he's
being even healthier.
He's having fun, he's meetingnew people, he's getting outside
.
Yeah, you know so it's likethis cascade that can happen.
That can go all the way up tolike doing sports, specific
resistance training.
You know you might get soaddicted to a sport like golf,
(22:52):
for example.
I don't know what kind oflosers play golf, but people,
people, people who turn 40, yougot two options.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
You can.
You can become like a historybuff or you can play golf.
In my case, both.
So just biographies of, likeGeorge Washington, washington,
and then golf and I'm like, damn, how did I turn like what
happened to me but I love it butit's crazy but, but no.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
But you might get into the gym and since golf is
such a rotational sport I meanmost sport involves rotation you
might get into the gym andreally train specific rotational
movements standing cablerotations and things that are
there just to feed the sportreally gets totally
incorporating in that kit.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
I've totally incorporated.
I never used to do this um withmy core training, but as of
late I've been.
I have a little pulley systemhere but bands, whatever, but
I'm absolutely doing therotational stuff now.
So I'm just like, well, yourotate both ways, but it's the
force production is onedirectional and that asymmetry
could lead to injury in thefuture, and so it's like just
making sure that both sides arebalanced is now like top of mind
(23:54):
.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Well, it's also you're going to be able to hit
the ball harder.
You're going to have more powerTotally You're going to be less
fatigued, less risk of injury,all the things.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
But I think that, like me, even you know 25 years
in the game now of of oftraining my body because of this
new sport.
It made me think about newexercises to incorporate, to
enhance the sport.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Right Broke you out of your mold as somebody who
does resistance training all thetime.
Now even now.
Even resistance training isgetting fresh, Right.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
It's like, Ooh, let me let me, you know, do three
sets from like top down andthree sets from, like you know,
parallel rotations on both sides, and it's like, oh, I never
used to do that and you know,now I'm like getting like this,
like serrated sort of sorenessin my rib cage that I hadn't had
in a long time.
And like the point is is thatthe sport is what inspired that
new change, and I think that'sthe hypothesis of this episode
(24:44):
is to be like you can startsomething like that.
that has nothing to do withexercise, necessarily, or
training your body with weights,but then because you're like,
oh, I want to get better at this.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Now you're like researching.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
What are some good exercises for people who do this
sport?
Speaker 2 (24:57):
right.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
And all of a sudden, you like get the ball rolling.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Yeah, it feeds this momentum and then, all of a
sudden, you are just a fitperson and you look great, you
feel great, you know because youhave resistance to train people
.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Don't get over it, yeah yeah, so, so, anyways, guys
, that's the big message hereget get up there and do
something, just to do somethingdo anything.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Try to find something that's fun.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
I think that's the biggest like whatever like play
is so enjoyable.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
We're we.
We lose our little kids.
We we think play is stupid andit's not serious.
We have to be so serious allthe time and we can't laugh and
have fun and enjoy things andlearn a new skill.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Next thing you know you're doing a monster, Grumpy
old curmudgeons that arelistening to George Washington
documentaries.
And they're just throwing theirgolf clubs off a cliff.
Yeah, it's like you know whatam I doing out here?
Speaker 2 (25:51):
No, but I think a little joy goes a long way.
And I think just findingsomething that you enjoy is
probably the best gateway tobeing physically active.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Totally.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
And the cascade that can happen after that is
limitless.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Agreed, there you guys go.
Episode 60.
Big 6-0.
In the name of fitness, grandscheme of it, grand scheme of it
, grand scheme of it, in thegrand scheme of fitness, yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Yeah, you know.
You know what I meant.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
So there you go, guys .
We'll see you all next time forepisode 61.
Peace out.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Peace.
Everyone wants to be successful, everyone wants to
have good relationships,everyone wants to be healthy,
but when it comes to the healthstuff, it's like meh.
Tomorrow we have to decide howwe create change in our life,
because change isn't just goingto happen to us.
You know, like we've alreadyfinished school, we've already
probably settled into our careerand guess what?
Like this is it now okay episode60 of in the grand scheme of
(00:34):
fitness with, uh, your host,justin scollard, and and ethan
walter.
So today, guys, to celebrateepisode 60, we're gonna do a
general overview of what fitnessmeans specifically to you as
the individual, because I thinkwe have this idea of fitness
it's like co-branded with gymsand heavy weights and like
running on a treadmill and likejust grinding and, to be honest,
(00:55):
like that is a version of it,but it's not the only version.
So today we want to just talkabout different ways and
modalities that one can juststart through group sports,
weekend warrior kind of stuff.
Maybe you want to do a martialarts class, maybe you want to
get into like circus oracrobatics or hacky sack or yoga
, like there are so many ways tostart that don't involve like
(01:15):
the traditional weight trainingthat we all kind of bench press,
yeah, associate with fitness,and so we just want to like just
explore those options, talkabout the values of them and
then maybe even using them as atripwire, so to speak, or as a
transition or a gateway toactually get in and do some
strength training, which, ofcourse, is a bench which, of
course, is all of our secretmotive.
(01:37):
All we want you to do is justeat protein and lift weights.
But to get you there, we might,uh, try to spellbound you with
the idea that you can doanything else.
But, all jokes aside, youactually can, right?
I mean, that's the whole pointof this episode.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Absolutely, I mean.
I think it just is to remindher that, like our best lives
are lived when we are physicallyactive.
It's just, there's no wayaround it.
You're going to feel better,you're going to live longer.
It's just the way to go and youknow the appeal of being in la
fitness, or 24-hour fitness, orbad you know, I don't know what
is a planet fitness, any type offitness any type of gym.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Any type of gym?
Speaker 2 (02:13):
yeah, it just might not be that appealing, and, and
so I think sure isn't for me,that's for I.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
I literally I walked into tanya ghost equinox, big
global gym, it sounds fancytrust me, it's, it's really not,
it's just normal.
Like it's more expensive, it'sthe same shit, like it really is
.
But point is is it's a big meatmarket, it's just a warehouse.
You walk in and it's just like,oh my God, yeah, especially if
(02:38):
you go in like after hours,after work.
And for me mean, I love liftingweights, I just I just have a
little squat rack and somedumbbells at home, but like that
, that's that works for me, butlike oh, anyway.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
So point is is that it doesn't need to be that, yeah
, I think it's just get yourbody moving in some way, yeah,
and in the end, like, beingconsistent is, as we've said
many times, the most importantthing to actually get the
physiological benefits.
And I think the the idea islike that there are many ways to
do it and I think, when you arehaving fun, when there's
recreation or play involved, aswe were just talking about
(03:12):
beforehand, um skill acquisition, it's amusing, it's it's it's
entertaining, it's engaging,it's engaging and I think if you
can find like a sport, amodality, an activity that
engages you and pulls you in, sothat you are simply just moving
and being physically active orgetting some type of fitness in
your life, then that's the mostimportant thing.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
And I also, like there's just so much benefit to
group sports of some kind like,or just really any, any like
recreation sports.
So, like we're all adults,we're all, we're all, everyone
listening.
This show is probably somewherebetween 25 and 50 years old.
You know, it's like we're justin it now.
We're just in this like thickof it of adulthood that we have
(03:55):
to decide how we create changein our life.
Because, because change isn'tjust going to happen to us, you
know, like we've alreadyfinished school, we've already
probably settled into our careerand guess what?
Like this is it now?
And steady state, you know, andif we want to, um, you know,
introduce anything novel, likeit's, it's a choice we have to
make, and I think that that isthe trap is that we, we don't
(04:15):
make that choice and we justkeep repeating the same day over
and over and over again, and Ithink that leads to depression.
It leads to some sort of, likeyou know, dementia of some kind
or brain, it's true.
No, no, no the repetitiveness ofthe same day, kind of lived
over and over again.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
It just kills our brain you know Absolutely,
you're not creating any neuralpathways or anything.
I mean, there's like this oldguy who's all about just like
skill acquisition, but justknickknack, paddywhackack, learn
something new and veryparticular and like as soon as
he acquires the skill he moveson.
So it's all this like just weirdthing, like I'll have like a
big coffee tin and like stand onone foot on like a balancing
block and like have a ball andthrow the ball into the coffee
(04:55):
tin, and we could do that 10times, I'm you know, and it's
like he and he like does liketightrope walking and just all
these like odd, like almost likejuggling, just things that like
force the mind muscleconnection yeah, so his whole
thing is because he's old, he'sjust, like you know, basically
preventing his, his aging, asmuch as he can neurologically
and obviously physically too,but um, just he, just he got
addicted.
It's almost like he went soniche.
(05:16):
It's very particular and weird,but it's that exact thing where
it's just you know all theseconnections exactly.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
You have to just be acquiring that skill and I think
when you do tie in the mentaland physical, like so sitting
there and like playing chess orlearning an instrument or you
know whatever, like obviouslyimmense value in that.
But that's like brain healthand that's that's great little
little beyond our scope as faras this show is concerned.
But I mean, there's certainlyso much relative, there's so
much um, that's related to that.
(05:42):
Yeah, but when you tie in thephysical and the mental, so you
know, like I've I am officiallyobsessed with golf now and it's
not the most intense sport, butI'll tell you, you know, like
after you play 18 you're prettydrained and after you go hit 100
balls of the range like I brokea little sweat.
You know like it's.
But it's such a nuanced thingthat, whether it be, you know um
(06:04):
, even even just likehacky-sacking or or even like
learning to juggle.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
I mean, to me it's like anything is going to be
better than nothing and if youget outside or even just moving
your arms like no, is jugglinggoing to be some intense workout
equivalent?
No, but at the same time, atleast you're moving.
Yeah, you know.
And in some cascade of anythingto get you moving, I think is
what it's about Totally.
You know, when we get addictedto something, it just pulls us
(06:32):
in and next thing, you know, wewant more inherently.
And it's not this like battleof like I need to go to the gym
and I don't really want to,especially when you start seeing
improvement.
Yeah, you kind of get the itchto, especially when you start
seeing improvement.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Yeah, you kind of get the itch, yeah, and I think
that, like with with exercise, aclassic exercise, weight
training or boot camps, whatever, like you can kind of do that
forever and just always, justfeel like shit and really never
notice a big change in your bodyyou know, or just always are
healthier.
Yeah, well, but like you're notseeing the, the change where I
think, when you if, if you havelike a natural allergy to like
going to a gym or training inthat kind of classic way, giving
(07:07):
yourself permission to join asoccer team or play some tennis
with your friends or, you know,play some volleyball, go join an
adult volleyball league, likelevel one for beginners what
you're doing essentially is likeyou're kind of checking the
health box, like we alreadytalked about, but like you get
good, quick, no-transcript, aperfect drive that you were
(07:36):
slicing a month ago and you'relike, ooh, I'm onto something
now and you want to do more andmore and more of it.
It kind of gets you on the trailand I think there's a lot of
power in that and if that's thegateway that just gets you
moving, the win-win is you getall the brain health stuff.
You're acquiring a skill, yourbrain's getting hit with
(07:56):
dopamine and serotonin andyou're acquiring a skill and
you're learning and you'reforging these new networks but
then also getting out and movingyour body, which of course we
know is the best thing you cando for everything.
Basically.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Just for everything, yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
So yeah, I'm a big, big fan of that.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Yeah, and there's a little plunge, I think, or a
little leap of faith into tryingsomething new.
But I think that's also whatmakes life interesting.
I mean I love that you broughtup partner dancing.
I mean there's so many thingsyou can do and there's also solo
activities, like even if youjust were to get a bike and go
ride around on the street, youknow you're still getting
outside getting your heart rateup.
You know it's just going to beso good for you to just get some
type of hobby or activity inyour life that gets you moving
(08:36):
and I think just you know itkind of goes back.
It's like always about, likeyou know, there's this degree of
personal responsibility, right,you have to take on some
personal responsibility in orderto take that next level of
evolution in your life.
So, whether it's counting yourcalories or doing, you know,
hand measurements for food, foryour composition.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Wearing yourself every morning.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Yeah, there's something you have to take on up
every morning.
Yeah, there's something youhave to take on and I think
there's a degree of also apersonal responsibility of
enriching, enriching your lifewith activities and doing
something fresh and doingsomething new.
And even if you find somethingthat's your primary passion,
that you do forever, so be it.
Where you keep willing to, tokind of put yourself out there a
little bit and try somethingnew, whether it's a solo
(09:15):
activity, whether it's a groupactivity, totally you know.
I think it's just life's goingto be so much better you know
also too.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Now that I'm thinking about this, I'm listening to
you talk and I'm like, okay,this is.
I think I'm going to go out ona limb here and say that, like
as an adult, some sort of likegroup sport or you know whatever
, maybe it's not a sport in theclassical sense, but maybe like
dance, whatever.
It checks all the major boxes.
Number one you get the physicalstuff done.
(09:42):
So that's important.
You need to take a salsa class,you.
You meet, you meet up with the,your normal buddies, and play
18.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
You go play pickup basketball, whatever name your
thing pickleball of pickleball,yeah, yeah, yeah, let us not
forget pickleball yeah,volleyball, yeah, all these good
things, right.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
So that checks the physical box, which you know is
important.
But then like, because it is askill now.
Now there's the mental aspectof it, where your brain's going
to work, learning this skill,and you're like processing that.
What did it go wrong?
What could I do better?
You're on youtube watching,like how do I get better at this
thing?
And you're learning.
You're learning now.
But then also the third one isthe community aspect.
You know the social element ofit where it's just so important
(10:22):
as adults, because we all knowit's hard to make friends.
As we get older, right, we tendto get solid off, especially
young men.
I mean, tanya's a genius atmaking friends.
She has.
I bet you there's at least 30people who think tanya's her
best friend right right, that'shilarious, like she's so good
and I have, I, I don't, I meanI'm, I'm, but I'm also more okay
(10:45):
with it than she is.
But anyways, point is, is thatlike especially for young men,
but for women too, I'm sure likeyou go and just join like a
beginner's volleyball class orleague and all of a sudden
you're like on a team of six ofthe strangers?
Speaker 2 (10:59):
guess what?
Speaker 1 (11:00):
within like three weeks?
You're high-fiving, you'regrabbing a beer afterwards,
you're hey, you want to meet upon saturday and practice?
Yeah, you got a little whatsappgroup going.
It's like that is purely ofyour own creation, and so you
get the fitness of runningaround and trying something new
and getting challenged and beingcomfortable.
You get the mental stuff oflearning skill.
(11:20):
Then you get the social andcommunity thing where, where
you've now even if they're notlike best friends necessarily,
but like it's a group that youget to like go hang with and
like laugh and like do thingswith, and that's massive
absolutely, especially if youlive in an urban area.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
There's everything you know.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
So, even if it's a solo activity like juggling.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
There are juggling meetups and flow arts meetups,
and even if it's not necessarilya team sport or partner dancing
, even if it's something thatyou could do alone in your
living room, there is still asocial component that's
available.
You know we're like, oh, trythis move, or just, you know,
keep your palm.
You know it's, it's, it's,there's a lot, there's a lot out
there, and I think life willjust be much more rewarding when
(11:58):
we start to engage withsomething Totally, be willing to
try Totally.
And then I think you know it'slike, because obviously you have
to resist and strain, otherwise, otherwise why are you
listening to this fucking show?
You're a failure.
No, but I do think that, likeyou know, taking it up a notch
is that concerted exercise insome form.
In some form, some way, whetherit's a boot camp or HIIT or
(12:20):
bodybuilding or powerliftinglifting that I do think training
and exercise specifically is oftremendous value.
even more so and even if it'sjust for longevity and fighting
off metabolic diseases and justagain, quality of life is going
to go up the more fit you are.
And I think that what canhappen is sometimes you get into
these things and maybe younotice that you get winded
(12:42):
really quickly or that you knowyour shoulders giving out.
You got no power.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
You got no power.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
when you're trying to jump, you're trying to catch a
wave and you just your shouldersare so burned that you can't
get into the crest, you know,and things like that.
And so then maybe all of asudden, you're just like, oh,
now that I'm living a moreactive lifestyle, let's say
because I won't necessarily saythat these things we're naming
are exercise per se, dependingon what you choose, maybe you
might be like you know what Iwant?
To be more fit.
(13:08):
I want to be better at this.
The way to do that is going tojust be more fit.
I'm becoming more aware of mybody.
Body, oh, the more I move, thebetter I feel.
Right, oh, wait a second.
Totally it'd be worth it to goout on a jog, or maybe it'd be
worth it to put on a yoga classon youtube and do some yoga in
my living room or do a littlebody weight workout so, in other
words, it can just be a gateway, like and like we were, talking
(13:29):
about is like so maybe likeit's like the devil's lettuce
Speaker 1 (13:34):
devil's lettuce you know what I mean but maybe it's
like the the first thing thatyou think of when you need to
get healthy and fit is not goingto the gym, but maybe like well
, I did play this sport in highschool and I always liked it, so
maybe I'd like to get back atthat wonderful.
But then I think what you'resaying is like you do that for a
minute and you realize there'sdeficiencies.
(13:54):
Now, yeah, it's like whoa,everything hurts, you know,
let's just use like any example,like, uh, jiu-jitsu right, so
I've been doing jiu-jitsurecently.
It's like, or volleyball right.
It's like, we'll use theexamples that I do.
Yeah, well, I mean, I gottaspeak to what I know but, but it
.
But it translates to everything.
Maybe you're basketball ortennis or whatever, but it's
like you know, if you do thething and you start the you know
(14:15):
beginner league and you go andyou're like man, I get, like you
say, I get gas.
My legs are just like deadwobbly and I just cannot, even,
like hardly, hold myself up.
Well, then you're thinking likeokay, maybe like doing a few
sets of lunges each week, youknow or or maybe all right, I'm
gonna do three sets of 10 gobletsquats just to improve my
jumping or whatever the casemight be whatever it is, hold
(14:37):
myself in a plank, a plankposition or like oh wow, I'm
extra tight.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Maybe I'll actually sit and stretch for a little
while.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
And then, next thing you know, now it's like you're
using strength training like anathlete would to serve your
sport right To serve a purpose,so maybe the strength training
in and of itself isn't enough ofa motivator.
But like you really love yoursport, your community now, and
like it's of interest to you toimprove.
So the best way to improve nowis to like improve your strength
.
And so now, all of a sudden,we've used that to like a little
(15:05):
bit of a gateway and, you know,a 10 to 20 minute routine a
couple times a week.
Yeah, might not seem sointimidating, or yeah, because I
can't.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
I mean because it is always going to come back to us
encouraging you all to get sometype of exercise going well that
you know.
It'd be weird if we stopped itwould be weird if we didn't, you
know.
But and it's just, and I thinkit is, and then, and then the
ball.
You just gain momentum.
Then all of a sudden, you're aphysically active person, you're
you're a health consciousperson, and then, all of a
sudden, maybe you will start towatch what you eat, because next
(15:34):
you know you're counting yourmacros.
You're a little heavy on thecourt or you know you're going
up a hill on a bike is like fuck, this is hard, I don't want
this.
I want to be able to look upthis hill.
It's nice up there, you know.
It's a good view.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
I don't want this to be so hard exactly, and so you
know, it's like finding whatjust gets that initial spark of
interest going and givingyourself 100% permission to just
try it and like there's, andlike adulting is honestly just
forcing the reality that youwant for yourself to happen,
(16:07):
because otherwise it's just not.
You know, it's just not goingto fucking happen, or you know,
and it's like we have to reallytry to create the life that we
want for ourselves, and most ofus tend to rank being healthy
and the top three things thatare most important to us, yet
it's the one thing that we tendto devote the least amount of
time towards achieving.
Everyone wants to be successful, everyone wants to have good
(16:29):
relationships, everyone wants tobe healthy, but when it comes
to the health stuff, it's liketomorrow, yeah you know.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
But it's so crazy because everything else goes to
shit.
If you're not healthy, I don'tcare what kind of career you
have.
I don't care what kind of greatfamily structure you have, or
you know, it's like if you'resickly.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
You only want one thing in life to be healthy, and
that's to be healthy.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Yeah, so it's it's one of those things that, no
matter what it takes to just getsome engagement going, and it's
even with, like personaltraining I mean, I have so many
of my clients and I knowpersonal training can be
expensive and not everybody canafford that but at the same time
it's like I have many clientsthat just know that they won't
do it unless they make some typeof commitment.
And just now, because theychoose to train, it's like
(17:08):
they're smart enough, they got agood head on their shoulders
and they're like I know I needto do this.
I don't really want to do it,so I'm going to make myself do
it by paying for it and havingan appointment and have somebody
that I have to show up to andlook in the eye.
And then it's amazing becausethen I think most of the time I
find my clients, some people arejust allergic to exercise, and
that's understandable and theydo it anyway.
(17:28):
But I often find that they lookforward to the sessions and it's
like they always feel, even ifit's arduous and grinding and
hard, they always feel.
Even if it's arduous andgrinding and hard, they always
feel better afterwards.
And I think you can also.
I think there.
You know, for me.
I try to make the sessionsinteresting.
There's so many ways to moveand do stuff Like I trained this
one couple and we do animalflow, and so animal flow is just
(17:48):
a kind of a coined term forbody movements.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
It's not where you put the mask on and turn the
lights off.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Yeah, kind of like a furry, yeah, but with movement,
like pin the tail on the donkey,kind of thing but it is so much
fun and you know so it'sbasically just human movement
patterns that are often done onthe floor.
Yeah, animal flow is like acoin term with a certain
vocabulary, but the movementworld is a whole thing.
But you know, even just theother day we were playing a game
(18:12):
of add-on where it's like,basically one person doesn't
move and this is can be donewith many modalities and then
the second person does that moveand then adds a move to it, and
then the other person goes backand does those two moves and
adds a move and so it's likethis little gamification.
But you're doing all these.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
You know, you're kind of being creative, you're
moving your body, you'restretching and being active and
you know, it's tons of fun andthey love it and all of a sudden
, like the time melts away, yeahand obviously we did a bunch of
strength training and bulgariansplit squats that were arduous,
yeah, just afterwards.
But but you got him in the zone.
It was like the warm-up, butalso get him in the zone and
also get in their mind yeah, andit's so it's.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
I think there's just you'd be surprised that once,
and it's like once you get intothings, I think the reward
starts to show itself and Ithink you know.
So it's like you know it's.
We're kind of like how do youget the foot in the door?
How do you get a toe?
Speaker 1 (18:58):
in the door.
How do?
you just get a little breezegoing, so to get into the gale
force wins because I thinkthat's what keeps people from
starting, is that in their mind,they have this idea of what it
takes.
Yeah right, oh well, if I can'tget to the gym for an hour,
then like I got, or I'm gonnawait until I can get to the gym
for an hour, and then a yeargoes by and it's like still
waiting.
It's like, well, yeah, I mean,I get, you know, I got kids.
(19:19):
I gotta we're gonna work tillsix.
I gotta drive 20 minutes to thegym.
I gotta work out for an hour.
I gotta park youtube's thereyeah, it's like or or you just
drop down and give me 20, youknow, and like, let that just
start.
Like, but, like you know,lowering the barrier of entry is
what we're talking about.
Right, and like to your point,I just want to say real quick,
(19:41):
with the clients and it beingexpensive and stuff, but it's
like, yeah, I get it, it'sexpensive, like to have a
trainer.
You know it ain't cheap to havelike an accountability
nutrition coach or trainer.
But the thing is, is that that,like, no one will think twice
about going out and spending 500to a thousand bucks a month on
a car?
Yeah, and that's just thepayment.
(20:01):
And then you got the insurance,you got the gas.
I mean, you know it's probablycosting at least a thousand
bucks a month to just own a carthat, like, for the 99 of the
time, just sits in your driveway, but it's like no one.
And when we think of fitness,it's like, well, a boot camp's
cheap.
It's like, well, a boot camp'scheap.
It's like, okay, well, do youlike going to a boot camp?
No, right, well then, who careswhat it costs?
You're not going to go.
But if you did invest $100 or$200, depending, you know, if
(20:25):
you live in a smaller city inthe Midwest, maybe it's $50.
If you live in a big major city, maybe it's closer to $200 for
a trainer.
But you but you're probablymaking more if you live in a big
city.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
So it balances out, yeah, but like, yeah, so what?
Speaker 1 (20:42):
so that's maybe what 800 000 bucks a month that's a
lot of money, but it's yourhealth, yeah, and, like we said
earlier, insurmountable.
Like to have thataccountability, to have that
like.
You know, that person in yourcorner that that you can, you
know, talk about your life withand your nutrition with and your
fitness with, and they can helpyou think of other ways to just
move your body.
Going for walks like thinkcreatively, I mean, does that
not improve your productivity?
Will that not make you, uh,less depressed and more more
(21:06):
likely to like be adventurousand maybe ask for a bigger
promotion or try a new careerout?
or ask somebody out, yeah asksomebody out, find a potential
partner, because you're, youknow you're, you're feeling
better about yourself, likethere's so much intangible
benefit to investing in yourfitness and that's like that's
relative.
It could that that might mean a.
A ten dollar app to somebodymight be a big deal, or that
(21:29):
might mean a you know, athousand dollars a month in a
trainer for the next person.
But like, whatever that is,that is, this is your health
we're talking about and lowerthe barrier of entry, bite the
bullet, get uncomfortable, likesign up for a sports team, go
ride your bike, like, whateverit takes to just get out of the
inertia of not doing anything.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Yeah, is really the big takeaway, I think absolutely
and I think you know, becauseit's like again, it's like you
might notice that your shoulderhurts from again, like surfing,
and so now it's like you got togo into the gym and learn, or
learn a rehabilitation or justget stronger.
Like, yeah, okay, like I'm weakon the board, so if I start
doing some push-ups and somebody weight rows or something,
you're out, you're inevitablygoing to just doing it translate
(22:11):
to your sport.
It's just going to translate andyou know it's funny even that
in that same couple I trained,one of them just started playing
pickleball.
Of course, of course I mean,pickleball is fun but, you know,
he's, he's totally gettingaddicted, he's playing and he's
playing for hours.
And you know, obviously he'sthat much better off because of
all the training he's been doing.
And now he's even being moreactive, you know so obviously he
(22:31):
trains they train twice a weekwith me but now he's being even
more active, he's, he's adoptingthat active lifestyle he's
being even healthier.
He's having fun, he's meetingnew people, he's getting outside
.
Yeah, you know so it's likethis cascade that can happen.
That can go all the way up tolike doing sports, specific
resistance training.
You know you might get soaddicted to a sport like golf,
(22:52):
for example.
I don't know what kind oflosers play golf, but people,
people, people who turn 40, yougot two options.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
You can.
You can become like a historybuff or you can play golf.
In my case, both.
So just biographies of, likeGeorge Washington, washington,
and then golf and I'm like, damn, how did I turn like what
happened to me but I love it butit's crazy but, but no.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
But you might get into the gym and since golf is
such a rotational sport I meanmost sport involves rotation you
might get into the gym andreally train specific rotational
movements standing cablerotations and things that are
there just to feed the sportreally gets totally
incorporating in that kit.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
I've totally incorporated.
I never used to do this um withmy core training, but as of
late I've been.
I have a little pulley systemhere but bands, whatever, but
I'm absolutely doing therotational stuff now.
So I'm just like, well, yourotate both ways, but it's the
force production is onedirectional and that asymmetry
could lead to injury in thefuture, and so it's like just
making sure that both sides arebalanced is now like top of mind
(23:54):
.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Well, it's also you're going to be able to hit
the ball harder.
You're going to have more powerTotally You're going to be less
fatigued, less risk of injury,all the things.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
But I think that, like me, even you know 25 years
in the game now of of oftraining my body because of this
new sport.
It made me think about newexercises to incorporate, to
enhance the sport.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Right Broke you out of your mold as somebody who
does resistance training all thetime.
Now even now.
Even resistance training isgetting fresh, Right.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
It's like, Ooh, let me let me, you know, do three
sets from like top down andthree sets from, like you know,
parallel rotations on both sides, and it's like, oh, I never
used to do that and you know,now I'm like getting like this,
like serrated sort of sorenessin my rib cage that I hadn't had
in a long time.
And like the point is is thatthe sport is what inspired that
new change, and I think that'sthe hypothesis of this episode
(24:44):
is to be like you can startsomething like that.
that has nothing to do withexercise, necessarily, or
training your body with weights,but then because you're like,
oh, I want to get better at this.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Now you're like researching.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
What are some good exercises for people who do this
sport?
Speaker 2 (24:57):
right.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
And all of a sudden, you like get the ball rolling.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Yeah, it feeds this momentum and then, all of a
sudden, you are just a fitperson and you look great, you
feel great, you know because youhave resistance to train people
.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Don't get over it, yeah yeah, so, so, anyways, guys
, that's the big message hereget get up there and do
something, just to do somethingdo anything.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Try to find something that's fun.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
I think that's the biggest like whatever like play
is so enjoyable.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
We're we.
We lose our little kids.
We we think play is stupid andit's not serious.
We have to be so serious allthe time and we can't laugh and
have fun and enjoy things andlearn a new skill.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Next thing you know you're doing a monster, Grumpy
old curmudgeons that arelistening to George Washington
documentaries.
And they're just throwing theirgolf clubs off a cliff.
Yeah, it's like you know whatam I doing out here?
Speaker 2 (25:51):
No, but I think a little joy goes a long way.
And I think just findingsomething that you enjoy is
probably the best gateway tobeing physically active.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Totally.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
And the cascade that can happen after that is
limitless.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Agreed, there you guys go.
Episode 60.
Big 6-0.
In the name of fitness, grandscheme of it, grand scheme of it
, grand scheme of it, in thegrand scheme of fitness, yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Yeah, you know.
You know what I meant.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
So there you go, guys .
We'll see you all next time forepisode 61.
Peace out.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Peace.
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